#classic-doom

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iron moth
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Does anyone know what to do on E3M9 after killing the cyberdemon? i've killed everything else on there and I don't know what to do after. I've already gone around the map a lot.

dapper flint
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Lol what

dusky venture
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Doesn't matter. Pick whatever difficulty you want; the point is to enjoy the game. If you like challenge, then play on UV. If you just want to slam the SSG on hordes without much concern, then play on a lower one.

iron moth
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I legit need help

dapper flint
iron moth
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oh

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I guess I'll have to restart episode 3 damn it with my saving after every level

royal heron
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Go back?

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Didn't you try backtracking to places you've been before?

sharp furnace
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hey quick question

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does gzdoom have a demo feature?

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for like recording demos

dull snow
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it does but they are not backwards compatible between versions

sharp furnace
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so i cant use them for stuff like doomworld and speedrunning?

dull snow
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unless it's a gzdoom only map, no

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best idea is to use DSDA doom

sharp furnace
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dsda?

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whats thats?

dull snow
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it's a source port developed specifically for speedruns, etc.

vast reef
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zdl is good but doomrunner is better

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ditching zdl

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when you run gzdoom with doomrunner it still brings you to the gzdoom iwad selection screen even if the iwad was already selected in doomrunner
it's not a big problem but it's a little annoying since i'm used to ZDL

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never mind

austere oxide
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I translated it with the google translator (I'm still looking for info)

dull snow
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happy for you
or sorry that happened
I ain't readin all that

dapper flint
halcyon willow
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tempted to make lack of punctuation a bannable offense

dusk dagger
sharp furnace
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2 things : can we get a TL;DR and also this wad is giving off MARIO vibes

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the MARIO rom hack for SMW that was horror themed

austere oxide
sharp furnace
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too long didnt read

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shorten your damn wall of text!!

austere oxide
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Yes, but I'm looking for a specific version, one that with what I saw is the original I found the video of a man who played it but not the link

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If you want, I'll pass the video to the md

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the music and the image make the difference in the versions

trim reef
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hi

austere oxide
vocal wave
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Please do not discuss any wads containing any real-life gore

royal heron
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More on the vanilla side, chock full of QOL improvements for demo recording and such

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It's also good for casual play

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Currently it's only of the most widely used sourcports besides Eternity, Woof!, and GZDoom

meager kite
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for some reason I cant get oopluak to download correctly

slim willow
meager kite
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im gonna try and pistol start sunlust

fickle adder
sharp furnace
minor zephyr
sharp furnace
pastel ember
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i play doom on an ipod

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na-no

vast reef
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cool

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also mad respect to anybody who can play doom with a controller

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i tried it today and got my ass handed to me on HMP

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i can't aim for my life

pearl osprey
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I usually find controllers awful but with og doom it was surprisingly easy to use and kinda relaxing

eager agate
finite crag
royal heron
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yes?

azure nimbus
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mad respect for anyone who plays doom.

Any WADS/creators who are known for purely architectural builds? As in there might not even be monsters but they use doom builder to design landscapes to be explored

dapper flint
royal heron
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Hm

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Not exactly sure, but it's possible that you could take a structurally aesthetic wad and put the -nomonsters parameter then explore

azure nimbus
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like map32 of eviternity is tis gargantuan structure. Made me think how impressive these designs can be

sour jasper
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Man, Doom 1 and 2 on Xbox 360 have terribly slow camera sensitivity. This may sound weird, but I can hardly play it like that. (I'm spoiled by the unity ports I suppose)

fleet sail
dusk dagger
sour jasper
dusk dagger
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Not that different

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Unity has mods support, and better framerate too

slim willow
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The XBLA version is a cool piece of history I guess. Also the og way to play No Rest for the Living if that matters to you. Unity is definitely way better by now though.

vast reef
# finite crag No

i said to people who can play doom with a controller because believe me it's a lot harder than it seems

royal heron
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it is

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it's like playing keyboard controls but slightly less clunky and more ergonomic

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it's hard as fuck

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when you add freelook into the mix like in the modern games... hell I have no idea how people play with controller

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it's so difficult

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sure, classic doom... modern doom is a different story

vast reef
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btw what are your opinions on episode 4?

dusk dagger
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Mixed feelings

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But better than EP 3

past fern
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I need someone to help me beat e1m6 co-op nightmare so I can get this platinum trophy 😭 😭 I'm on ps4

trim willow
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wazzup you lizards

finite crag
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Is there a way to turn off autopickup on doom 2?

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Trying to complete nightmare is a joke in this state lol

tacit remnant
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I don’t think so

finite crag
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Damn they really butchered nightmare with doom 2 it just doesnt feel that fun to do

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I forget the name but im upto map 17

vast reef
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anybody else think that the doomsday engine graphics really don't look good

finite crag
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what is the best parameter to play with doom classic

vast reef
finite crag
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except -fast alredy have that setted

vast reef
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oh, you mean parameters to add to the launch command

finite crag
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yessir

vast reef
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i haven't played around much with them, but yes fast is fun
use respawning monsters to make it nightmare but not (since nightmare's fast monsters is apparently different from the parameter)

finite crag
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u should try playing with those pranked my friend with ading -fast to im too young to die

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also uv -fast is fun

vast reef
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yes, very

finite crag
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Do trophies and achievements glitch on doom 2 btw? I finally beat level 20 on nightmare and the trophy for completing level 11-20 didnt pop

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yet Ive done them all

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Cause if that didnt pop maybe the nightmare for that level didnt count

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or is it because I got the secret exit on map 15 that it'll still count the nightmare run?

royal heron
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no real thought was put into it

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it was put in for all the people who were complaining that ultra-violence was too easy

finite crag
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I get that but that autopickup function wasn't a thing and not being able to turn it off has been real tedious at times

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I managed to pass m17 just not looking forward to m29

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Surely i dont have to keep gearing up on 28 to keep rinning through 29 no?

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Thats what ive read anyway

royal heron
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can't you do it with saves iirc?

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I'm sure that with some occasional saves won't hurt you

night vapor
dapper crag
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I feel like the spider mastermind should have showed up more in the series

dapper perch
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Hey is it just me or do some levels in classic doom (especially in doom 2 and final doom) feel unfair on UV?

silver tide
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My LRG Doom Classics Collection Special Edition for Nintendo Switch box is finally shipping

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Really let down about the connectivity requirement though

azure nimbus
vestal flare
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hey guys

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I'm playing complex doom with the legendary enemies mod

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I am currently fighting a legendary annihilator, on the maximum difficulty

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does anyone have any advice on how to do this outside of enabling godmode?

eternal lance
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lower the difficulty doomguy_grin

royal heron
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Just lower the difficulty or save lmao

azure nimbus
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got to the very last room in eviternity map 32. I had all the kills and secrets(I know there are exactly 65 monsters before the last fight that remain)...well 80 min attempt. Maybe another time.

royal heron
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Damn, 80min?

finite crag
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So whats the best way to approach The living end, pistol start on nightmare? Like is that even possible? Lol

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was playing Caribbean map TNT

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and I got softlocked at the end

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what are .deh files, and are they important? if so, how would that play in loading order?

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since I figured out how to do the PrBoom+ Launcher.

azure nimbus
fast mortar
pearl osprey
finite crag
pearl osprey
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You dont load the deh file in prboom

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Just load the wad and it will do everything automatically

finite crag
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oh, so the deh file is only there for if you wanna play it in something like Chocolate doom or even DOS?

pearl osprey
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Yeah exactly

finite crag
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thanks for the help!

finite crag
azure nimbus
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which?

royal heron
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I would try if I wasn't burnt out on doing nightmare runs, even though I've only done 3

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just look at speedruns and how they take care of things

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you only have to complete the level, right? no secrets of kills required

finite crag
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Yeah its only finishing the level on coop, im nkt upto it yet ive just heard that 29 is probably the hardest and that you need to gear up in 28 to have a fighting chance

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But being able to respawn should make it fine? I think its the part with the 3 branched off paths thats going to be the pain

royal heron
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lemme go check out the demo for map29

royal heron
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on pistol start it's gonna be ass to dodge fast caco projectiles

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brb, gotta watch the demo file by stx-Vile

finite crag
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Ive learnt that the hard way from 17 lol

royal heron
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Vile's strat is actually very nice

finite crag
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Ill check that out, thanks!

royal heron
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but uhh

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he does some stuff that I'm very sure will be hard on controller

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he skips all switches at the end and he jumps straight to the exit teleportal

finite crag
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Yeah alot of things ive noticed in some of the runs are either very hard or impossible to do with this version

royal heron
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I'll show you a little clip of it

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he does press the switch right next to the mancubus, btw

finite crag
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Oh man that looks like it'll take a handful of tries to get done

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Hopefully theres weapon pickups on the way so im not just running pistol

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That was the issue with 17 there was only a shotgun pickup until near the end where it was the plasma rifle

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Something like the chain gun would be a dream to stun lock

royal heron
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whivh he uses for pretty much the rest of the level

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he hoses down everything with it

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I'll try to find a yt vid of it, if not I'll try to viddump the demo and send it to you

finite crag
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Appreciate it

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The plasma rifle is on the right next to the switch yeah?

royal heron
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doesn't look like there's a video

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I'll just viddump

fleet sail
royal heron
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@finite cragI've got the demo viddumped, I'll DM it to you

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dammit the file's too big

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I'll try to compress it

finite crag
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No worries

finite crag
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Did any of them even do this before implementing it

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how hard is it to add online coop

royal heron
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uh the only way I think is possible for that is to use Odamex or Zandronum

finite crag
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This is on ps4 also

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Cant it just be a peer 2 peer thing?

vast reef
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any way to play doom mods on mobile other than delta touch?
i have no credit card to pay for it

royal heron
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Pretty sure not

unreal pike
royal heron
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I did lol

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But it's actually not hard confirmed

zenith berry
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It’s based on the Android port of GZDoom.

vast reef
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tysm

quaint socket
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We must make 2022 the best year

vast reef
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btw

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what's the difference between LZDoom and GZDoom

finite crag
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lzdoom is gzdoom for lower end computers

royal heron
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^

shy urchin
finite crag
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Alright so after multiple runs and crashes today i finally beat m29, icon of sin was so easy to do but when i got the trophy i also got the finish the game in under 2 hours trophy? Is that from the game constantly crashing or something?

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You don't have to do this in one sitting, the game keeps track of your fastest times on each level, so you can come back to the game and do a level faster to contribute to your overall time across all levels, unfortunately there is no way to check your cumulative time.

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I found this would thisbe why?

royal heron
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Not sure, but hey at least ya got the trophies

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

azure nimbus
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Finally got through Anagnorisis without saves * ||controller died during the final wave so I used a save I had just before the final fight. mm still counts. not a demo but for "doing it" in the abstract sense||. what a monster of a map

fickle adder
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Final doom speedypain

fast mortar
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Replaying alien vendetta and knowing what maps are comin next makes it all the more fearsome dear god

slim willow
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map 25 MaledictPog

finite crag
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I just came up with a small but massive idea to vanilla doom.
What if monster projectiles didn't care who hit who?
So like: If an Imp fireball hit another imp, they would infight.

sharp furnace
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I finnaly beat doom 2

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I hate archviles and barons and hell knights

finite crag
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"One of the worst of a bad lot. You can't think of enough rotten things to say about him. He's fast, hard to kill, casts spells, and resurrects dead monsters! At least these suckers are rare."
― Doom II Manual description

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but really, congrats phil! What difficulty and which sourceport?

fast mortar
royal heron
azure nimbus
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mbf21 has design options to allow that for mappers iirc. Woof can run mbf21.

finite crag
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I mean, I could say release a patch that removes those checks, but I don't know how complex modding doom is.

pearl osprey
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It's fine as a mod in fact that probably exists already

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But I don't think vanilla doom will be (or should be) updated anytime soon

sharp furnace
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First time so i did the easiest setting

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I can probably speedrun knee deep in the dead but idk

royal heron
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Hell knights ain't so bad

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Barons are worse than hell knights

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Archviles, eh too

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You only encounter them 7 times

dapper flint
sharp furnace
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Also fuck cacodemons

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They are really shitty in tight spaces

slim willow
dapper flint
slim willow
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I miss DMENUPIC on the sides of my console Doom. doomcry

dapper flint
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Punch hit reg is dog shit compared to gz though

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I knock barons into space these days

slim willow
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4:3 in current Unity doesn't even align the messages

dapper flint
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How is it hard to just let us revert ?

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Probably takes 2 seconds

finite crag
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Suprise the cross color from the medpacks are green now

calm cradle
finite crag
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You play project brutality 3.0?

calm cradle
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ew

finite crag
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Why ew?

vast reef
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they don't like project brutality 3.0

calm cradle
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well, two reasons actually

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devs are a bit... problematic

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and there are so many more mods out there that are far more creative than just "making the game more violent"

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A Fallout inspired mod won a cacoward this year and placed in the top 10 mods on ModDB

finite crag
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Who else dislikes doom tnt

vast reef
royal heron
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tnt evilution? I think it's mediocre

finite crag
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Why so?

vast reef
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but i haven't played it

calm cradle
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that opinion only started getting popular when Civvie started trash talking it

vast reef
finite crag
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John Romero's doom mod

royal heron
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there's mods like EOA that add gore and extra gibs without making it over the top, and hey modern doom guns

finite crag
vast reef
royal heron
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there's also EOAE

finite crag
royal heron
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if you want a shitpost mod, then there's the Abort Mod

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for shits and giggles

calm cradle
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If you want a decent gore mod, NashGore is a really good go-to for simple but deep gore systems

finite crag
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But what about brutal doom?

vast reef
calm cradle
royal heron
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I think brutal doom is eh

royal heron
calm cradle
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She streams regularly too. Plays a bunch of maps and mixes weapon mods with it

royal heron
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it got taken down because it had a copyrighted song right?

calm cradle
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The video she had uploaded, yes

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she took down the mod everywhere else worried they'd come after her there as well

finite crag
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Who?

calm cradle
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Marisa, very famous for several mods of both Whacky and Serious

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She was the one that made Soundless Mound, which was the winner in Joel's second mod contest

finite crag
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Damn .3.

slim willow
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Oh man. I remember there was an AUEGGH soundfont.

finite crag
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Do you guys play the secret Wolfenstein map?

slim willow
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Like in a normal Doom 2 playthrough? Of course.

finite crag
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How hard is the troops?

slim willow
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They're basically just slow chaingunners. Not horribly difficult.

finite crag
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Ah good

calm cradle
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Doom's enemies are quite easy to handle

finite crag
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How so?

calm cradle
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Shoot at it and keep distance really

slim willow
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But berserk punching

calm cradle
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this is in more regards to the original maps. Over the last two decades, people have figured out more devious methods of making Doom's enemy design more challenging

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which usually boils down to swamping the player with enemies and throwing in an occasional archvile

finite crag
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Ah

gusty falcon
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Recently checked out the latest hell Crusher update and damn is it alot of fun especially with maps that have lots of monsters because it's almost like a dance with the player and the monsters. with the brutal doom monsters pack especially you're regaining health and and armor with the grenade combos as fast as the monsters are damaging you to near death so as powerful as the player is the pressure stays on until all the monsters are gone and the walls are all wonderfully red and strewn with gibs 😄

Atleast that's the experience i had

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Icarus compared it to the first time he played Russian overkill and I'd have to agree

royal heron
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I think there's a video somewhere that has a mega file download to Abort

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they said they originally found the download on a russian website with 3 trojans megalel

gusty falcon
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A mod I'll probably never touch
Hahaha that makes sense that mod is so crazy it got buried in the depths of internet hell 😆 😆

finite crag
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The motherland mod

slim willow
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Russian Overkill

royal heron
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Abort is so silly that it's hilarious

finite crag
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Yeah that

gusty falcon
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Yeah it is

royal heron
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I enjoy playing with it from time to time

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when I don't take things seriously

finite crag
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Seinfeld mod

royal heron
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also, you can literally headpat things to death

gusty falcon
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I could never get into Russian overkill because being so powerful gets old quick when you don't have equally powerful monsters to challenge you with 😅

royal heron
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License to Kill easily changes that

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while you can kill monsters in 1 hit... they also kill you in 1 hit

finite crag
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The Simpsons mod

gusty falcon
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Oh first I've heard of that oh hahaha

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That would make it challenging alright 😆

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I'm just not nearly that much of a masochist

finite crag
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It's a really old mod

royal heron
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yeah LtK on Russian Overkill is fairly difficult

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imagine getting sniped from across the map by a shotgunner

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just 1 pellet is enough to end you

gusty falcon
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Yeah I've experienced that in normal play

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Suddenly i need a sniper rifle

royal heron
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oh right in Abort you can headpat cacos until they explode

gusty falcon
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Hahaha

calm cradle
royal heron
finite crag
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Doog mod

upper root
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can anyone recall where the invis sphere is on e2m5?

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very important atm

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nvm

finite crag
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Just saw the NFT mod

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Whoever made that thank you for making my day

formal scaffold
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watching a video with john romero talking about doom and my god what a bunch of giga-chads. they put out a press release pretty much saying Doom was going to be the best game in the world before they even made Doom, and then actually went and created one of the greatest games of all time and defined a genre

sharp furnace
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I saw the teens react to doom video

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I would describe it as ten minutes and fifty five seconds of visual pain

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“Is that the exit do i need to go there???”

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Wtf

fast mortar
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Yeah I stopped watching these reaction videos because they always make me wanna rip my eyeballs out

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I still remember the megaman one when a teen fell into a bunch of spikes, died and went "YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TOUCH THOSE?? NOBODY TOLD ME THAT"

finite crag
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they're SPIKES
of course you're not supposed to touch those

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jesus tabris christ I'm betting that they don't know they're not supposed to touch lava in mc💀

slim willow
eternal lance
azure nimbus
royal heron
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the mario world music makes adds to the experience too

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don't forget the ouch face

eternal lance
royal heron
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or the berserk that's replaced by a cowboy hat

finite crag
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have you guys ever played the DTWID series?

royal heron
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No but it seems kinda interesting

somber crystal
sharp furnace
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(not you the dumbass kid)

fast mortar
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if i found out they were fakin the reactions i

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id 100 percent believe em, they cant be that dumb

royal heron
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Unfortunately I'm not home rn and I don't have my laptop so that's gotta wait

eternal lance
eternal lance
sharp furnace
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Yeah

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I know

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It was painful

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They thought the helmets were enimiew

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Theres no helmet

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Why?

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Spooky googles

eternal lance
stark seal
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A few day ago I've bought "DOOM 3: BFG Edition" and "DOOM 64" on STEAM.

SO I've started playing DOOM 1... the very first DOOM game from 1993 which is included in "DOOM 3: BFG Edition"! A few "problems" and questions have emerged: Is there a list of keyboard commands and shortcuts for DOOM 1? What are the default key assignments? Can I change key assignments?

Of particular interest are the Commands & Shortcuts assignments of function keys (F1 to F9)! Automap keys would also be very interesting!

There is a five-sided manual for "Doom 3: BFG Edition", but it is incomplete and abridged...

Thanks and Greetings!

somber crystal
dusk dagger
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The rerelease version (2019, aka unity port) has mod support and some more features

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As for Doom 64, gorgeous

dapper flint
dusk dagger
dapper flint
dusk dagger
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Impaled John

pearl osprey
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Pretty sure you can grab the IWAD somewhere in Doom 3's local files and use a source port instead

dusk dagger
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Yup, that too

finite crag
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h

sharp furnace
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Hey guys i need help

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Is doom and doom 2 worth it for the switch?

limber mirage
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Yes

sharp furnace
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Ight

errant valley
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Hello

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Can anyone give me tips for doom 1993

gray nebula
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Am I the only one, who notices the terrible mouse latency on the new official doom source ports?

I played with many source ports but the input lag has never been that bad. Ive seen no one discuss it.

Even disabling v sync and all that still doesnt fix anything. There is a noticeable delay between the mouse and the game.

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Ive noticed that the new port isnt even really fullscreen even when you check the options it says fullscreen

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What the game does is run borderless which means window's own syncing system kicks in

Which also means that there is definitely latency

errant valley
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This is classic doom

gray nebula
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Im talking about classic doom

errant valley
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I know

gray nebula
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Im talking about the official ports that have been released a while ago

errant valley
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Can you give me tips for doom 1993 I started playing the game for the first time

gray nebula
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Wym tips

errant valley
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Any thing that gives me knowledge on how to get better at the game

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I am on map 3

gray nebula
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E1M3?

errant valley
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Difficulty hurt me more

errant valley
gray nebula
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Movement is quite important

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And you can play on easier difficulty

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Aim is of course important as well

errant valley
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The maps are very big I dont know where to go most of the time

gray nebula
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When you press tab you should see the overlay

errant valley
errant valley
gray nebula
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It shouldnt be difficult then

errant valley
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Yeah

gray nebula
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You find colored keys through the maps to open doors

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And exit doors usually look identical

errant valley
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I keep dying on the same part and it frustrates me

gray nebula
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Where do you die particularly

errant valley
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On E1M1 I didnt know how to open doors and I thought the game was glitched

gray nebula
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The key to use things is space

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Make sure to enable always running

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It makes life easier

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What sourceport are you playing the game in?

errant valley
# gray nebula Where do you die particularly

In E1M3 theres this part where you fight some imps and the room goes dark and theres zombies I kill them but I have low health then when I come out the dark I get killed by more imps

errant valley
gray nebula
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Ohh you mean the room you pick up the key

gray nebula
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Do you play the game on steam?

errant valley
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I play on xbox

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:)

gray nebula
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Have you bought the game on xbox?

errant valley
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No I have gamepass

gray nebula
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Oh okay

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Its very easy to pass that section

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I can show you

errant valley
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I got doom1, doom 2, doom 3, doom 64 , doom 2016 and doom eternal. I have completed doom eternal

errant valley
gray nebula
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Nice

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Alright ill join a vc and start streaming that map

errant valley
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Thanks

gray nebula
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Ill show

errant valley
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Ok

gray nebula
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Hold on ill start up the game

errant valley
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Ok

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Its 3AM for me

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I think I have insomnia

gray nebula
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Same

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Its 3 am here too

errant valley
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UK?

gray nebula
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AT

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Austria

errant valley
#

Oh

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I am uk

gray nebula
#

You can just a rocket launcher here

errant valley
#

Ok

gray nebula
#

It was that easy

errant valley
#

I am noob :(

gray nebula
#

I can also show you how to enter the secret blevel if you want

errant valley
#

No thank you but thanks for the offer

#

I dont really do that stuff

gray nebula
#

Aleight

errant valley
#

Thank you!!

gray nebula
#

You're welcome

errant valley
#

Have you played all the doom games?

gray nebula
#

Yes

errant valley
#

Nice. That must have taken hours

gray nebula
#

All of them take long

#

Episode 4 is the hardest

#

I even struggle in that one

#

Doom 2 has 32 maps

errant valley
#

Is that alot?

gray nebula
#

I also played doom 64

#

Its normal

errant valley
#

I want to try an play all the doom games I was convinced by someone in the eternal chat to play all of them

gray nebula
#

It really is worth it trust me

#

Especially the classic series

dusk dagger
#

👀 👀

gray nebula
#

There is so much you can play i wish i was playing for the first time to experience it again

errant valley
#

I think it will take a really long time for me because I am really bad

#

I like doom 1993 so far tbh

gray nebula
#

Im glad you like it

errant valley
#

👍

#

Have you read the books?

gray nebula
#

Ive only read 1 so far

errant valley
#

Was it good?

gray nebula
#

Yeah but books arent my type

#

Since dooms story is not the big thing

errant valley
#

I understand

#

I have a question

#

Is vega the father? In doom not real life

gray nebula
#

What?

#

Ohh wait

errant valley
#

In doom eternal vega says am I the father

gray nebula
#

Youre talking about the new one

errant valley
#

Yeah

gray nebula
#

Im saying yes

errant valley
#

How? He was created by dr Hayden right?

gray nebula
#

Did you play the dlc?

errant valley
#

No

gray nebula
#

You should play them

errant valley
gray nebula
#

Ancient gods dlc

#

Thats where you get the answers

errant valley
#

Oh ok

#

I really like doom eternal

#

I cant play all the classics because I dont think they are on xbox

#

Not all of them

gray nebula
#

You definitely can actually

#

They re released new ports for the classics editions

errant valley
#

I couldn't find them

gray nebula
#

Doom 1 and 2

errant valley
#

I have doom 1 ,2, 3 ,64

gray nebula
#

Yes

errant valley
#

And doom 2016

gray nebula
#

Yes

errant valley
#

I dont have doom tnt

gray nebula
#

Doom tnt is free with doom 2

#

And plutonia

errant valley
#

Oh I didnt know that

gray nebula
#

You can download doom tnt and plutonia as an add on inside doom 2

dusk dagger
#

TNT and Plutonia are Doom 2's add-ons

errant valley
#

Ooooh

gray nebula
#

However since youre not the best in those games, they are harder

#

Especially map 32 in plutonia

errant valley
#

Oh... I am noob

#

Who was that?

gray nebula
#

Yeah the game is a little more challenging on a controller

royal heron
#

Final Doom is more challenging than Doom II, play that after

errant valley
#

I didnt know how to open a door on the fists level

royal heron
#

You just press space

errant valley
#

Controller

gray nebula
#

He didnt know

errant valley
#

I do now

royal heron
#

Oh I see, uh then idk

gray nebula
#

He's playing the unity sourceport

royal heron
#

What difficulty u on so far?

errant valley
#

I spent a few minutes trying to figure out how to open a door

errant valley
dusk dagger
#

A to use/open, Dpad Up to toggle the map

royal heron
#

Ah, default difficulty

gray nebula
#

He died on E1M3 a lot

The place when things go dark after picking up the blue key

#

The 4 imps

errant valley
gray nebula
#

It definitely gets a little harder on controller when you are playing on ultra violence+ (fast monsters)

errant valley
gray nebula
#

Yes

errant valley
#

I thank you for that

#

👍 👍

gray nebula
#

It gets handy but becareful with the launcher

errant valley
#

Do you get damage from it?

gray nebula
#

You dont wanna shoot the wall or a monster that is close to you

royal heron
#

E1M3 is definitely where things pick up

gray nebula
#

It will make massive damage

errant valley
#

Oh

royal heron
#

Also the hardest level to do nightmare

gray nebula
royal heron
#

Jeez, i would want to get a better time but the pain is just not worth it so I'll just keep my 4:43

gray nebula
#

Yeah nightmare is a joke difficulty to begin with

royal heron
#

It's the speedrunner difficulty

gray nebula
#

Yes

#

I hate the monsters respawn

errant valley
#

I will try my best to complete that level I will tell you how I do tomorrow

gray nebula
#

Episode 4 is significantly harder

errant valley
#

I also got quake today

royal heron
#

The consensus is that if you can beat e1m3 on Nightmare, then you can beat any level in E1 on Nightmare

errant valley
gray nebula
#

E4M6 is the hardest map in doom 1

royal heron
#

E4M1 or E4M6

#

can't forget e4m1

gray nebula
#

It shouldnt be difficult on default difficulty

errant valley
#

I am a noob tho

gray nebula
#

I calculated

royal heron
#

The balancing between HMP and UV for E4M1 is kinda wack ngl

gray nebula
#

The amount of ammo is very little in e4m1

royal heron
#

Not exactly

gray nebula
#

You need to be very precise if you wanna kill all of them

royal heron
#

I've finished with plenty of shells before

gray nebula
#

Bruh

errant valley
#

Coffee guy survives on coffee

royal heron
#

It's the health that's a major concern and artificially raises the difficulty

#

Only on UV though

#

HMP, not that bad

gray nebula
#

Yeah

vast reef
errant valley
#

I have some wired tangled in each other one sec

gray nebula
#

Ultra violence is my default difficulty

royal heron
#

Same, except for when I know I'm playing ultra-hard mapsets

gray nebula
#

Yes

royal heron
#

Like sunlust or 20x6

gray nebula
#

If i was about to play the first 3 episodes
I play with fast monsters

errant valley
gray nebula
#

No

vast reef
royal heron
#

I would try Dimensions but I'm not nutty enough to do that

gray nebula
#

Trust me hmp gets very easy from time to time

errant valley
vast reef
#

i also play on uv for the most part and i have the worst aim in my class

gray nebula
errant valley
#

What's hmp

royal heron
#

Hurt Me Plenty

vast reef
gray nebula
#

Yes

royal heron
#

Just the acronym

gray nebula
#

What

errant valley
#

I thought it was hurt me more but ok

royal heron
#

Nah, it's Hurt Me Plenty

gray nebula
#

Yes

errant valley
#

Oh

#

I've called that wrong then

vast reef
gray nebula
#

Play nightmare you get 2x ammo

royal heron
#

It goes:

I'm Too Young To Die.
Hey, Not Too Rough
Hurt Me Plenty
Ultra-Violence
Nightmare!

errant valley
#

Oh ok

vast reef
gray nebula
#

😂

vast reef
#

nightmare is very easy

gray nebula
#

Yeah 2x ammo

errant valley
#

You guys are pros

gray nebula
#

We jokey

vast reef
royal heron
#

Nightmare you get 2x ammo but, monsters are 2x faster and monsters respawn infinitely

vast reef
#

nightmare is nearly impossible

errant valley
#

Oh I thought you were serious

gray nebula
#

Nightmare levels are just to speedrun since you can't casually play it because monsters respawn

vast reef
royal heron
#

On I'm Too Young To Die, you take 50% less damage and you get double ammo

gray nebula
#

Wait

errant valley
#

On e1m1 you can just skip past the enemies

vast reef
gray nebula
#

You get 2x ammo on that i didnt know

royal heron
#

Yeah you can

vast reef
#

you can also do that in most early levels

errant valley
#

Yeah

#

But I am noob

royal heron
#

I might be a masochist because I feel like doing more nightmare levels

gray nebula
#

You get better buddy

royal heron
#

I have to consult acobfusedhuman though for fun ones to run

gray nebula
#

Masterlevels are fun

errant valley
#

What's master levels

royal heron
#

I've already did e4m2, e1m3, and e1m6

#

Although I have no idea if I should viddump e1m6 and upload it to my channel

gray nebula
errant valley
#

When you finish the game and play them again but the level is harder?

royal heron
#

Master Levels are absolute dogshit, if we're being serious though

errant valley
#

Y?

royal heron
errant valley
#

I am getting so much knowledge tonight

gray nebula
#

Theyre not harder

royal heron
#

A lot of pro Classic Doomers agree that the master levels are just shit

errant valley
#

I thought it was that

#

Are you guys pro cos you seem like it

royal heron
#

I'm like eh

gray nebula
#

My memories might be wrong

royal heron
#

Even though I've had some impressive stuff like e1m3 Nightmare! 100% secrets, I'm alright when playing mapsets

#

I've yet to conquer Scythe's 3rd episode on UV

errant valley
#

Does anyone listen to notorious B.I.G?

royal heron
#

Hell, I actually might revisit Scythe and do it saveless pistol start

gray nebula
#

What

royal heron
#

It was one of the first megawads I did play, might as well have some nostalgia

gray nebula
#

Ah hell nah

#

Youre giving me ptsd

errant valley
#

What

royal heron
#

I still need to get over Fire And Ice and Fear, the slaughtermap

#

I've been grinding Fear a bit but I'm not too into it

errant valley
#

When the first doom game came out was it popular?

gray nebula
#

God damm uv fast monsters

Spent almost 1.5 hours without saving a single time

#

And then dying

royal heron
#

It is quite a fun level though, I enjoyed it even on HMP

#

I'll definitely have to redownload MSCP

gray nebula
#

Challenging difficulty is fun

errant valley
#

Sometimes

#

I'm always tired

#

Always feeling down

#

Is that normal?

gray nebula
#

How many hours do you sleep

#

Sometimes sleeping for too long can make you feel tired as well

errant valley
#

2-3

gray nebula
#

2-3 hours is very low

errant valley
#

Yeah

gray nebula
#

You should sleep longer

errant valley
#

I need sleep I know but I'm not tired

#

I get tired when I wake up

#

And now I'm all alone

#

:(

vast reef
sharp furnace
#

Favorite doom 2 map?

royal heron
#

hm

#

idk honestly

steel lion
#

How do i use prboom+?

vast reef
dapper flint
sharp furnace
#

tricks and traps is really fun

polar drift
#

Olá,algum brasileiro por aqui????

past field
steel lion
#

Zdaemon is trash

past field
#

eeeeh, I wouldnt really say that

#

its a pretty good MP doom source port

steel lion
#

Someone want to see me plaplaying for the first time doom 1993 on ultra violence!

past field
#

although, of course, odamex and zandronum stay on top as the best MP doom source ports

past field
steel lion
#

I didnt refer to zdaemon in that message

past field
#

oh

#

I thought you where still talking about zdaemon

steel lion
#

In that message not

past field
#

okay

fast mortar
#

Ok no idk rly

past field
steel lion
vast reef
royal heron
#

Zdaemon dropped development, no?

vast reef
royal heron
#

ah I didn't know

shrewd quartz
sharp furnace
#

I got doom and doom 2 on the switch

#

Its much better than I expected

#

Why does im too young to die in doom 2 feel like fucking ultra violence

#

Like cmon

dapper flint
#

My 3 year old neice beat doom 2 on UV

tacit remnant
#

Imagine the PTSD she’ll inflict upon the demonic hordes 10 years from now

royal heron
dapper flint
finite crag
#

I have a cousin who is stupidly good at doom

#

He’s really antisocial but one time I went up to him and he was playing some kind of slaughter map and I was just amazed

errant valley
#

I am on e1m5 now

finite crag
#

should i mention the original doom games where set in 2022 have fun and happy new year

radiant crow
#

Time to play X-Mas Nightmare and Doomer Boards Ep.7 mods!🎉

finite crag
#

I found the best strategy to deal with pain elementals: Just run into them when they spawn lost souls-

vivid vine
#

As recorded in the sacred vidlog Pro Doom Monster Strats of eons ago

azure nimbus
#

it's cool to find those classic rhythms for dancing with the monsters. Forcing punches from revs to prevent missiles after your ssg, preventing lost souls from spawning, forcing melee's from pinkies to keep them from running at you, mastering the cyberdemon rocket timing for bfg,...

pliant condor
pliant condor
past fern
#

need some help beating e1m6 on nightmare ps4 because this shit way too hard (going for platinum)

royal heron
#

E1M3 is way harder

#

If you want me to, I can DM you a zip file for a video for someone completing it with 100% secrets

past fern
#

I've seen the secrets method but with the newer update everything moves soooo fast

royal heron
#

You also know you can grab the red key without triggering the trap right?

#

That helps a bit

past fern
#

didn't know that

royal heron
#

And you can keep the door open by using a shotgunner to block the door to make the run faster, if you care about that

past fern
#

idc how I do it I just want it done lol

royal heron
past fern
#

bet

royal heron
#

you gotta do it really slowly though

finite crag
finite crag
#

Does anyone else get stuck trying to make that one jump in level 2 of doom 2? I never had any trouble in the normal version but this 3DS port has me stuck on that level. I can't tell if the physics are slightly different or if it's something to do with the controls

vast reef
sharp furnace
#

It just does

#

Theres points where it feels im on the hardest damn difficulty

vast reef
sharp furnace
#

Yep

vast reef
sharp furnace
#

Yep

vast reef
#

then the 4th map

#

forgot what it was called

vast reef
#

also how the hell

#

do i turn off prboom mousestrafe

#

it's the only reason i don't use it more frequently

outer bloom
#

Unf

ebon ferry
#

Hello

royal heron
#

Turn the sensitivity to 0 iirc

finite crag
#

Does id care about classic doom? XD

pearl osprey
#

Unity port is still being updated so I think yeah

finite crag
#

But thats under bethesda's controll

vast reef
#

not at all

#

that's mouselook

#

mousestrafe is when moving the mouse moves the player

prime lava
#

vertical mouse movement is not mouselook lol

vast reef
prime lava
#

vertical mouse movement is when doomguy moves slightly forward/backward when you move the mouse in that direction

vast reef
#

oh

royal heron
#

VMM is not ML lmoa

#

if so, then I assume you mean strafe on?

#

that's only activated if you press the corresponding hotkey for it

#

and if not then uh I have no idea what you're talking about or how to help you

vast reef
finite crag
#

yall 2012 was decade ago beck then i just played doom classic bundle as soon as it came out on my ps3 now when doom eternal is out... i play quake XD

#

it was a good game kinda recommend the ps3 ports of doom

fathom tiger
#

thats nice to hear

meager kite
#

I am stuck on Sunkist map 7

#

Once I beat Sunlust I need ideas for wads that are difficult

royal heron
#

20x6 and 20x7

azure nimbus
#

Most of eviternity has been pretty easy so far. But map32 and map19 have been way harder than the rest. There was a snowy map too that was lengthy as well but less so. Really haven't played anything with this bumpy a difficulty curve

sharp furnace
azure nimbus
#

maps have e#m# labels for doom1 and map## for doom2.

errant valley
craggy prism
#

Anyone wanna help me speed run the hangar on Doom 1993?

#

I've only gotten 13:49

royal heron
slim willow
#

Know a guy who spent months getting an 8. Wouldn't recommend. Felt 2nd hand agony.

royal heron
#

In which case it's less painful because you can do ITYTD

#

yeah Hangar just sucks balls as a speedrun

#

Would never recommend speedrunning it, especially if you're new to the speedrunning scene

finite crag
#

speedrun habitat lmao

royal heron
#

True true

#

At least I did get a 19 on habitat

#

Although that's probably not gonna happen again anytime soon

#

I just abhor habitat as a level

finite crag
#

I think I got it done under a minute once

vivid vine
#

UV Max or bust

finite crag
#

nah lol 👎 😹 👎

royal heron
finite crag
#

I think it was, or my brain might be fried and I'm thinking of one of the times I sped through entryway

#

fuck it ima do another run of habitat, see what I get

#

yeah sure I didn't 100% it but I finished it under 30 seconds

royal heron
#

Yeah it's possible to do under 20

#

not the best because I bumped into a lot of shit but oh well

finite crag
#

the fastest run (for unity atleast) is 17 seconds !
yeow !

royal heron
#

yeah unity iirc has auto SR50

#

probably also didn't bump into as much shit as I did

#

got that 19 sucked

finite crag
#

uh
what is sr50

royal heron
#

fastest way to run in doom

#

usually it involves hitting many keys at once to bypass the strafe limit that's coded into doom

finite crag
#

damn

sharp furnace
errant valley
#

Ok

#

I'll tell you when I get there

sharp furnace
#

The other episodes i havent really done much

#

So your out of luck

errant valley
#

I'm still on e1m5

#

Its kind of hard

sharp furnace
#

What difficulty?

errant valley
#

Hurt me plenty

civic island
errant valley
#

That must be hard

prime lava
#

for doom 1 and 2, pretty sure "UV+" should be easier than UV, as a result of all the extra weapons and ammo

#

The fast monsters just don't do much if you are overpowered :p

dapper flint
#

But I'd has nightmare doom 2 is alot harder than uv plus

#

So its uv uv plus then nightmare in my opinion

#

Alot of maps are unchanged though with just fast monsters and extra bullets but the ones that aren't are ball busters

#

I definitely recommend actually playing uv plus before commenting on it

#

So yeah in my experience which is alot more than yours confused when it comes to uv plus. UV plus is far far harder than just uv in every way

#

The ammo argument is basically non existent for the most part

#

Well I mean if you're not running away just going for a exit I guess

calm cradle
#

gives me an idea for a mod

dapper flint
calm cradle
#

Seed based added difficulties

#

Players can set a seed that affects the RNG, and the game can be scaled above UV difficulty

#

more so because there's only so much one can do with just tweaking enemy properties. Addition/Removal of items can affect it, and people would likely want to be able to master the same levels

dapper flint
#

Oh yeah dude that should really damn spicy I'd play that in a heart beat

calm cradle
#

I'll file that on the backburner

dapper flint
#

Hell yeah man. Let me know when I can try it.

past field
#

so I made a list of thing I wish to be added if Id ever makes a new doom port of classic doom

-the Xbox doom levels (E1M11, MAP33)
-Boom and limit-removing mod compatibility
-Vulkan/OpenGL renderer
-NRFTL as an episode
-final doom port
-a mod loader
-command lines from the original doom
-online multiplayer

eternal lance
past field
#

but it would still be cool

vast reef
#

also wouldn't this just be a mishmash of existing source ports but official

gusty falcon
vast reef
#

btw what are your thoughts on gzdoom's ambient occlusion?

pearl osprey
#

Imo all that eye candy is really beautiful for screenshots/videos and maybe some mods, but for vanilla-ish doom I keep it off

vast reef
#

when i play i turn it off for the sole reason that it sends my pc to the shadow realm

#

the game looks nice either way

gusty falcon
vast reef
#

i think my 28 fps with AO on is very reasonable

gusty falcon
#

My own laptop specs are here but for the most part they don't matter because it's not what i generally play doom on

#

@vast reef

calm cradle
#

Be ready for people throwing a hissy fit if you go with Vulkan/OpenGL

#

Because for some reason there are people out there that seem to believe that if it’s doom, it should still run on their cheap old computer without any problems

pearl osprey
#

Most sourceports have OpenGL anyway so It's not really a problem

calm cradle
#

It’s a really weird thing people cling onto

pearl osprey
#

True and the funny thing with some tinkering both renderers can look almost identical

calm cradle
#

Doom is not an opengl friendly game, so getting good performance out of it in every aspect is a pipe dream

#

It’s just light weight enough to perform decently as vanilla, but the more you add to it, the harder it does get

rough anvil
#

anyone using the PBR for original doom textures? i believe it was a Realm667 project at one time

frozen star
#

its 2022

#

meaning

#

rip and tear!

#

lol

strong lily
#

Doom 2: Hell on earth is my favorite doom ever

pearl osprey
#

censors Hell on the Doom server like a chad

strong lily
pearl osprey
#

I love all the doom games I can't pick a favorite

#

But I can pick the worst one

strong lily
#

Harsh but fair

#

Also true

royal heron
#

ML4D2 is definitely like a german sausage

#

it's the wurst

#

same for maximum doom

finite crag
# strong lily 3 without a doubt

unbased + cringe + ratio + you fell off 165.208.64.194 (kfc ip address) + 38.9072° N, 77.0369° W (Washington DC) + cope + seethe + mald

#

hol up

#

idk why it turned blue I think discord thought that was a phone number💀

dapper flint
#

Yeah definitely a shit opinion

finite crag
#

yes

royal heron
#

3 isn't bad

#

it's simply different

dapper flint
#

Absolutely

strong lily
#

Incorrect

dapper flint
#

By the way I get butterflies in my stomach everytime I see betruger

slim willow
#

That face line. What a daddy.

rich nymph
#

hey im planning a big project for the future that i want to build in the doom engine as a wad, and i need to ask smth about choice making bc this idea involves multiple big choices and endings
like, can there be branching paths across levels based on switches and item pickups, or would it have to rely on multiple exits that take you to different levels?

#

if anyone has info on this please @ me

vast reef
cobalt rapids
#

Testing the doomguy_dead 🏺

vast reef
#

dead pot?

rocky grove
#

Mod's amazing.

royal heron
gaunt gust
#

im playing ultimate doom on steam and i cant get the shotgun bc there r no demons who spawn with it

royal heron
vast reef
past field
#

Theres also a secret in E1M1 to get it but I wont tell you

#

Wouldnt want to spoil it

#

Oh and theres a shotgun in E1M2 just go to the pipe-like thingy at the start of the map, and go to the room at the left and go up the elevator

vast reef
#

review on the abort mod

calm cradle
# vast reef review on the abort mod

After thinking about it for a few moments, I decided to take down the screenshot. I do not know if you were acting in honest faith to show off how bad it was, but regardless, it's best that sort of content isn't shared here.

vast reef
calm cradle
#

This is not the appropriate space unfortunately, and one I'd rather not police over tonight

royal heron
#

abort isn't a terrible mod

#

if you accept it for what it is(essentially a joke) then it becomes a lot better

#

I would say it belongs in a short of shitpostey region but it's better than that

vast reef
royal heron
#

perhaps a shitpedestal?

vast reef
#

mayhaps

past field
#

Whats abort?

vast reef
#

such as:
floor tile instead of chainsaw (you get to bludgeon people with it or throw it at them frisbee-style)
box of shotgun shells (why use a shotgun to blast people when you can just throw the shells at them)

past field
#

Oh

#

That sounds cool

bleak grail
tacit remnant
#

Gun go brrrr. Wristblade go shshshsh. Demons go blehflop

vast reef
#

how do i stop dying in the slough of despair

#

istg

vast reef
#

aight i can just nab the plasma gun

bleak grail
vast reef
bleak grail
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np

bleak grail
vast reef
bleak grail
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oh ok

neon raft
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why does doom on Sega 32x sound so bad?

royal heron
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You can't do that otherwise everything gets fucked up

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Seriously, the highs are fucked

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The bass practically nonexistant

steel lion
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Hi guys

dapper flint
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Hello

steel lion
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Its a good idea buy the unity source port for mobiles?

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For doom 1 or doom 2 i dont care

dapper flint
steel lion
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Oh

finite crag
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raspberry pi doom is definitely a last resort

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but its good

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bc u can pair an 8bitdo

finite crag
steel lion
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Wtf?

finite crag
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cloud gaming

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you have it on console

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then you stream it from the console onto mobile

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like steam link

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im pretty sure doom isn't on steam

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but whatever

limber mirage
royal heron
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DOOM is on steam, what?

pearl osprey
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Want doom for mobile? get the unity port for mobile, its simple, unless you are an advamced user and can setup freedoom gzdoom

pearl osprey
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Thats where I got the iwads personally

eager agate
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Way better imo

iron moth
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I just beat the og DOOM

copper zephyr
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guys before i buy doom classic complete, i need to ask something, is DOOM classic steam no need to use like "GZDoom Chocolate DOOM" btw thats like emulator doom for modern pc, bc i research DOOM CLASSIC cannot play in modern pc

dapper flint
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What ? Could you be more specific

copper zephyr
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i just wanna 1 question, doom classic can play on modern pc?

dapper flint
copper zephyr
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oh i thought it need "GZDoom Chocolate DOOM" ok thx pal

dapper flint
copper zephyr
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so if i gonna play classic doom with mod need that?

dapper flint
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Yeah bro

royal heron
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If you want to play mods, then you need GZDoom, yes

finite crag
finite crag
worldly echo
meager kite
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Map 11 is hell

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not enough ammo and the damn part with chaingunners and pain elementals while your being spammed by imps is painful

royal heron
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savescum

vast reef
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if anybody saw the messages i deleted, ignore them

errant valley
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Hello

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I'm still on doom 1

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It's hard. I'm only on e1m5

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How many m's are there in e1?

vivid vine
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Every episode has 9. 7 levels, a boss level, and a secret level.

vast reef
# errant valley It's hard. I'm only on e1m5

a good tip is to keep moving so you don't get hit (sorry if this is has been said 900 times prior), if you're in a cramped space you can use the chaingun to clear enemies, as it's faster than the shotgun

errant valley
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How do I get chaingun ammo?

vast reef
errant valley
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Np

zenith berry