classic-doom

[sharp veldt]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/recurring-nightmare/downloads/brutal-doom-hell-on-earth-starter-pack

[exotic vault]

Thanks

[exotic vault]

it works even on the latest brutal doom test

I'm kind of sad that there's only 6 mods for doom 64 remaster.

[crystal hill]

go make some more

[cyan crown]

ive finished my first doomwad! Whats the best place to post it to?

first doom level* not wad

[crystal hill]

Doomworld

[cyan crown]

alr

how do you upload to doomworld?

[crystal hill]

sorry, upload to the idgames archive, then make a post linking to there on doomworld

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/thread/31922

[cyan crown]

bruh

[cyan crown]

ok i uploaded my wad how do ifind it?

[crystal hill]

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/ should show up here, at the top of "latest files"

[cyan crown]

hey can u rate my first map?

[crystal hill]

do you have a link?

[cyan crown]

no because my brain is too deprived to work the upload

uhhh ic an upload it to MEDIA FIRE

[crystal hill]

if its smaller than 8mb I think you can send it via dms

[cyan crown]

uhh i think i could

[exotic vault]

Can't I'm not a moder.

[crystal hill]

modding isnt so hard

anyone can do it

[exotic vault]

I don't really have any creative ideas on what I could make in doom anyway.

[cyan crown]

i DONT EITHER i just load up doom builder and i just tinker with it what id do is just make a map add a shit load of enemys and ashit load of guns and just shoot the shit out of them you should try somthing like that too!

[exotic vault]

I just don't want to do doom mods. I'd rather just play others creations rather than do my own.

[cyan crown]

fair

btw want a mod recomendation?

[crystal hill]

fair, but if you're complaining that there's not enough out there, well, you're able to do something about that

[exotic vault]

Yes

[cyan crown]

Complex doom ITS PRETTY GOOD just difficult asf i recomend like scythe with it or somthin

[exotic vault]

I said I'm kind of sad which means I can put up with it it just feels weird that doom 64 remaster only has 6 mods.

[crystal hill]

ok

[halcyon willow]

You can use any file hosting service and upload a link. Dropbox, gdrive etc. idgames is only for fully completed, tested, bug free works

[exotic vault]

I probably won't try complex Doom because I want to play a mod that isn't gun-wrenching hard.

[cyan crown]

fair

[cyan crown]

it does add more stuff than just insanley difficult enemy variants

[woven swallow]

me

ye, recommend me some

[trail trellis]

Hi, I'm playing the classic Doom games with some mods (nothing out of the ordinary, just leaving the game like the PS1 Doom and Doom 3, respecting the base game mechanics and maps) but I don't understand something, is the protagonist of Legacy of Rust someone else or is he a Doom guy?

From what I understand, all the expansions for Doom 1 and 2 feature the Doom Guy.

I'm asking if I can replace the Face with another one for some fun while playing.

[cinder sapphire]

imo just play however you wanna play, but yes I believe LoR guy is different. I think it was someone who worked for UAC.

[trail trellis]

Perfect, so if I can replace the face for this expansion with the alpha face of the doom guy, the one that looks like the protagonist of Doom 3.

Thanks for explaining this to me. I'd like to send pictures of what my classic Doom looks like, but it won't let me post pictures in this chat.

[modern peak]

i didnt even know there were mods for the nightdive port

[little oar]

You have to use embeds
Post an image in discord (random server or dms, whatever) -> right click it -> 'copy link' -> paste that link into this chat

...just gotta be wary of that, too

[trail trellis]

I realized

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353674949711626255/1459075273185038459/Screenshot_Doom_20260109_034143.png?ex=6961f53d&is=6960a3bd&hm=9bd7a2c641ac3e39337240e1bb6532e956df9db913e95aa64d3616dd1cb8110a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2024&height=1265

[modern peak]

holy bisexual lighting

[trail trellis]

Well, this is what my mod pack looks like. It's a collection of various mods I found when I wanted to make Doom 1 like Doom 3. I don't even remember where I downloaded them from, but I have all the names in the folders.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353674949711626255/1459075271561842780/Screenshot_Doom_20260108_143337.png?ex=6961f53d&is=6960a3bd&hm=8b40a6bab7bcabf25104edf50eb4b5765e20f82dedac2dfd2e0e40ec87b3600f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2024&height=1265

I only played Doom 1 and 2 on a PS1 emulator a long time ago when I was in school, so I'm trying to make the game as close to the PS1 version as possible, but with the idea of ​​being able to play the expansions with this dark style that I really liked from that port.

[median cloud]

Theres a TC for psx doom btw

I'm a big fan of the psx version of doom myself so I've played through it a bunch of times with emulators

[trail trellis]

Yes, I know that TC, although I wanted to make the base game with the dark atmosphere but using the vanilla PC maps

[woven swallow]

it's always doom guy

[trail trellis]

So, after everything that happened with Doom 2 and its expansions, the Doom guy went back to killing demons in Legacy of Rust?

I don't know anything about the new expansion; I never play the expansions for this game, I always play Doom 1 and 2 xD

[woven swallow]

its after final doom

[median cloud]

You should give some of them a shot! They offer a bigger challenge than the base game

Final Doom, NRFTL, LoR

[trail trellis]

What is the chronological order of these games?

Doom 1
Sigil
Sigil 2
Doom 2
The Master Levels
No Rest For The Living
Final Doom
Legacy Of Rust

That's the order a friend gave me to play the expansions in.

[trail trellis]

I usually replay Doom 3 and its expansions (up to Doom Resurrection on iOS), but I play classic Doom in co-op with the same friend who gave me the timeline, and sadly we never finished Doom 2 because things happen and when we play again we start from scratch xD

So officially I only beat this game once, and it was on a PS1 emulator.

[median cloud]

Could be but I wouldn't enjoy Doom like that.
Master Levels are mostly horrible and I'd just skip them.
Sigil 1 is fine but Sigil 2 is kinda mean and might turn you off
NRFTL is great and I'd advise you to play it after finishing Doom 2.

So I'd go Doom 1 -> Doom 2 -> Doom 1 E4 -> Sigil -> NRFTL -> Final Doom -> LoR
Only do Sigil 2 if you really feel like it
You can also switch Doom 1 E4 and Doom 2 around

[crystal hill]

I agree the Master Levels suck but there is value in playing them

they let you get a better perspective on how good other levels are

[median cloud]

There's value to that pathway but I dislike the risk of exposing newer players to burn out by having them play through horrible levels haha

Master Levels aren't super hard though so I suppose you can just breeze through them

[crystal hill]

oh yes, I don't think the master levels should be what new people play

Play stuff like Plutonia and TNT first

[median cloud]

Yeah exactly

[trail trellis]

I'm not a novice player, although I haven't played the expansions, I have played mods such as Pinochetstein 3D GZ (which I highly recommend) and Doom Revenge of Evil

[median cloud]

God knows TNT will grind your gears as a new player tho

[crystal hill]

The progression should be Doom 1 -> 2 -> TNT -> Plutonia

then you can do whatever, but Master Levels and Doom 64 arent bad picks

[median cloud]

You're still new to other Doom mapsets

And that's a biiiig part of Doom aha

[median cloud]

This is probably the most clearcut progression you should take.
Sigil, Sigil 2, LoR, NRFTL and Master Levels are optional.
NRFTL is just really good so I tell people to play it

And ofcourse Doom 1 included E4 Thy Flesh Consumed

[woven swallow]

don't play the master levels...

[crystal hill]

I would recommend Sigil 1 as well. It's the best Doom 1 has ever gotten imo

[trail trellis]

Good, I remember playing these Xbox OG exclusive maps.

I never played much of the classic Doom base game; I only discovered the series through Doom 3, so the classics were far removed from what I liked about Doom. Later, I played the PS1 version of Doom and never got around to playing the expansions.

[crystal hill]

the XBOX maps are both so shit I would actually recommend skipping them

unless you're a massive nerd who just HAS to play all the official Doom stuff

[trail trellis]

I tried the first level in a fan port for the PS1 and I quite like it

[trail trellis]

Don't worry, I've already played them a bit. Besides, I have the WAD files for the maps, so maybe I'll try them out at the end, like those extra levels that other games have, like F.E.A.R. 1.

[crystal hill]

they're not long, but still unworthy of your time

[trail trellis]

But why is Master Levels so bad? What's wrong with it?

[median cloud]

Just horrible quality really

Ugly, plain looking maps with meh combat scenarios

[crystal hill]

most of them play like ass

[median cloud]

It has a couple of good maps but most of them are just bad

[crystal hill]

some of them are boring, and only a handful approach quality

[modern peak]

boring

not as boring as tnt though

[crystal hill]

look, don't do TNT dirty like that

[median cloud]

Compared to the Master Levels, TNT is Eviternity quality

[modern peak]

i dont care im a forever tnt hater

[crystal hill]

I don't like it either, but come on

The Master Levels suck balls

[modern peak]

idk ive only played the master levels once so i dont remember much but i dont remember them being that bad

i just did them all pistol start

[crystal hill]

I did that too, and most of them got on my nerves like TNT rarely does

Jim Flynn and Chris Klei are in a league of their own when it comes to bad levels

[trail trellis]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/353674949711626255/1459113092796649492/Screenshot_Doom_20260109_053845.png?ex=69621876&is=6960c6f6&hm=f5ae1343a23889825e39517b4725131086186b35f81bfb8d9de990a190426e14&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1398&height=874

[crystal hill]

what is this?

[trail trellis]

It's my Doom 1, completely modified to be like Doom PS1 and Doom 3.

[crystal hill]

blimey

[trail trellis]

Because of this modpack I made almost 2 years ago, I wanted to play classic Doom again, but this time I wanted to finish the game and play all the expansions.

[crystal hill]

I'd suggest playing them without the modpack

you'll be getting a different experience if you use it

[trail trellis]

I'm hoping this will motivate me to finish the Doom Eternal DLCs because I got lazy and my first impression of them wasn't great.

[modern peak]

so doom 1 modded to not be like doom 1

[crystal hill]

The classic dooms and Eternal are very different experiences

arguably even more so if you're playing the classics like they're Doom 3

[trail trellis]

Nothing changes except the visuals; it's like a texture pack, because the game plays the same.

[cinder sapphire]

here is a discussion on thoughts about the chronology of the games. it also suggests which characters are in which games.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/1hfz059/chronological_order_of_all_main_doom_games_dark/

[crystal hill]

I'd still argue the lighting and atmospheric changes are significant

[trail trellis]

I have another mod pack that does make Doom 1 like Doom 3; this one is more in the style of the PS1 Doom. The only things it has from Doom 3 are the shadows and the fact that I'm useless without the flashlight.

[modern peak]

the dark ass areas and flashlight beg to differ

[crystal hill]

the flashlight fundamentally changes the gameplay of Doom 3

if you didnt need to use it, you would be far more effective at fighting things

[modern peak]

i love not being able to see things outside of the small circle in the middle of my screen

[trail trellis]

Obviously, the weapon slot flashlight is different from the shoulder-mounted flashlight.

[crystal hill]

both still force you to play around them

[trail trellis]

That's why I put it there xD

[modern peak]

its still a flashlight and its still harder to see everything so you will play differently

[crystal hill]

this is beginning to sound like a Doom 3 conversation, so I'll just say this again - I recommend playing the classics they way they were intended to be played, without modpacks to change the lighting or anything like that

[trail trellis]

I understand, but my play style isn't fast-paced. The game might be full of lights, but I'll still play slowly, and killing demons works the same as when I play without mods.

[crystal hill]

But you'll be able to see them better

[modern peak]

dont put this man in a slaughter map

[trail trellis]

Yes, I just wanted to show how my mod pack turned out, I didn't want a general discussion or anything.

[crystal hill]

which changes how you play

[modern peak]

or legacy of rust which he is about to start playing

[crystal hill]

alright, you do you

[crystal hill]

what do you think of that wad?

[modern peak]

i havent played doom in ages and it absolutely kicked my ass when it released

[crystal hill]

thats similar to my own experience

[modern peak]

like yeah i love when my official doom expansion suddenly turns into a slaughtermap

[crystal hill]

I got to level 2, got my ass kicked, and didn't return to it

It's still a long ways away based on what I'm playing now, but eventually I want to give it another shot

[modern peak]

put me into a maze with 50 vasagos and 50 archviles because why not

[median cloud]

Too each their own in how they play Doom but do know that many maps rely heavily on being able to play quickly

Doom is a fast paced game after all

You will do yourself a favor by turning on "always run"

[trail trellis]

If you play like that, and I've played many games where you have to act fast and all the enemies are in the dark, I feel it's more epic to play without "seeing".

[median cloud]

@trail trellis ever thought about playing some custom horror themed wads?

[trail trellis]

I remember playing one where you walked through the levels of Doom but you only had a lantern

I also played a full mod called Project Crypt

Although that was more of a "cry of fear" mod in gzdoom, I remember the mod well because it was quite fun, even though the flashlight in that game was rubbish.

But I didn't find any mods that let you kill multiple enemies in the dark, or at least I don't know of many.

[median cloud]

Hmm I'm not sure if I know a mod like this either

Unloved is a horror theme'd mod but it isn't darkness focussed or anything

[trail trellis]

I know it, I play it on that Steam version

"Lasting Light" was the name of the mod I played from gzdoom

After that, I only played more "classic FPS" games like Pinochestein 3D, which is literally a classic FPS where you kill everything that moves. And yes, the story is fun, although I think you have to be Chilean to fully understand it.

[crystal hill]

Bloodstain is a fine wad that jumps the shark near the end, in terms of traps and difficulty

[exotic vault]

How do you get project brutality working? Just curious

[woven swallow]

you just have Gzdoom or Uzdoom, have any Classic doom iwad (Doom, Doom2, Plutonia, Tnt) pick what you like, and load it up with project brutality like any other mod, and since it's a gameplay mod, you can stack this mod with custom map mods and have the PB weapons and move set available (Note that it can break some stuff here and there)

[exotic vault]

Thanks for the help I'll try it out later.

[woven swallow]

https://youtu.be/FOu6b83vmW4 this should teach you everything you need to know

[exotic vault]

I already know how to use UzDoom and Zpl. I've just never tried project brutality before.

[woven swallow]

Okay, Just sharing in case you didn't!

[exotic vault]

Got it working

[woven swallow]

nice men

[bitter shoal]

oh nice I got the map 11 archvile jump for the megasphere almost by accident

TNT

And yeah Wormhole is the best map so far

[woven swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346158800301985812/1459568111547187467/Screenshot_Doom_20260110_215048.png?ex=6963c03b&is=69626ebb&hm=757d3ba4ae99751f1ec09e8b10485372bf031ef952dea574c4a3040ca5ba1e84 Antaresian Reliquary Map05

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346158800301985812/1459563111416725566/Screenshot_Doom_20260110_205759.png?ex=6963bb93&is=69626a13&hm=bb8de8429d535a56d02b4a440ba285f94f692200bf7365c02e1f7f45583d3581& Sunlust Map28

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346158800301985812/1459563112335147229/Screenshot_Doom_20260110_210949.png?ex=6963bb93&is=69626a13&hm=f77b433d7c26307530cc548c44035414972494643662c743b568a9f7752389e1& Fractured worlds Map32

[umbral shale]

And they say classic doom has outdated visuals

Look at this beauty

The second one looks like the cosmic realm

[twin mortar]

Not really comparable these are mods

[bitter shoal]

yeah limit removing on modern hardware tends to push visuals quite a bit

[umbral shale]

Ok but vanilla classic doom has stylistic visuals

[woven swallow]

i'mma classic doom photographer!...i guess

[bitter shoal]

vanilla doom is also pretty dependent on who is mapping the levels. I think I recall Romero admitting that Sandy's levels were ugly but the folks at id liked the gameplay.

[median cloud]

TNT2 Devilution the habithathening was something else to play

1000 monsters, 30 secrets

as someone who tries to uv-max, so get all secrets. Having a map with this many secrets is a drag to play

[bitter shoal]

goodness

[crystal hill]

seeing this kind of thing on my map would make me quit the wad without a second thought

unless I was really enjoying it so far

[sharp veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1140696964263067810/1459571350598324416/Befall_-_DOOM_2__Hell_on_Earth_2026-01-09_16-22-29.mp4?ex=6963c33f&is=696271bf&hm=24d0334447572149a5bd9e9e2fcc87527683d3f530d166a62a795374347b4628&

[woven swallow]

i've seen many monsters in my doom playthroughs more than a 1k.....but i never seen something more scarier than 30 secrets to find....

[bitter shoal]

If you aren't hunting secrets, the effective monster count is probably way lower since I feel like a good chunk of monsters would be behind a lot of them

I could be wrong and they actually are just like 30 little closets of items everywhere

[crystal hill]

secrets almost always benefit the player to get

[woven swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346158800301985812/1459577405579460839/doom59.png?ex=6963c8e3&is=69627763&hm=ef7e4c0e3643db0897984523eee897268b18b1e9e36ea5e15178aacd28f80596 nvm i take it back, i forgot about this

[crystal hill]

so in a massive map like that one, I'd be trying to get as many as possible

[median cloud]

hahah I wasnt looking forward to it as well

[median cloud]

Yeah I didnt want to deal with that

[bitter shoal]

yeah that is poogers though isn't that a wad that leans trolling?

[woven swallow]

yeah i was about to say "can i even count this cause its a joke wad?"

[bitter shoal]

"What is a lot depends on what you mean? Ten thousand enemies on a Pooger map? Not really. A thousand in TNT 2? Most definitely."

[woven swallow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTpBh_ItkA multiple people actually beaten this level legit btw...

[bitter shoal]

I'm a sucker for videos with strategy analysis

[woven swallow]

enjoy the video!

[idle ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[lofty gate]

i want to know if someone has that issue with freezing?

[woven swallow]

What is it?

[lofty gate]

it's bit strange but anytime when trying to play some WADs like Project Brutality if it's 2.0 or 3.0 or other ones, whole pc freezes without any reasons

if someone has a solution for it, tell me

it's bit annoying to shutdown my laptop and over again ;-;

[crystal hill]

maybe its too intensive for your laptop?

[lofty gate]

i don't know

[woven swallow]

What are your specs?

PB is quite big for low end PCs

[lofty gate]

but i've downloaded some 20GB doom mods collection but since i play it freeze.

i don't know my specs but i know it's Acer Aspire 3 with UHD graphics (8GB ram) with core i3 10th gen

[crystal hill]

20GB of doom mods? good lord

[woven swallow]

Okay, it's fine, in classic doom terms

[woven swallow]

I have 10 more

[crystal hill]

kids these days

[woven swallow]

How old are you?

[crystal hill]

oldish

[woven swallow]

40?

[elder sage]

Ik right

[lofty gate]

and how to fix it?

[woven swallow]

I seriously don't know what could be the issue honestly, maybe a sourceport issue? Are you using gzdoom?

[lofty gate]

yes

for everything i have included for WADs (Classics,Conversions and Gameplays)

[woven swallow]

Are you running on windows?

[lofty gate]

yes

[woven swallow]

Wait wait, do you add other things with Project brutality?

If so then, yeah it's gonna break some stuff here and there

[lofty gate]

i could show you in dms/

it's preety stacked up

[woven swallow]

I'm open for dms

[lofty gate]

i've dm you

i've sent everything what i have

[finite crag]

I want to mod Doom.

[torpid yacht]

Im starting tnt revilution today, finally. 🙄

[median cloud]

Okay I just beat TNT2 Map 20 and this was hard goddamn

hardest map in the pack until now

[lofty gate]

still freezing -_-

[exotic vault]

The watch your step level in doom 64 I feel like each one of the most frustrating levels in the game to me at least.

[finite crag]

I have just beated the game

[main ibex]

now do it on nightmare

[finite crag]

Maybe one day T.T

[exotic vault]

That's only for crazy people and nutcases. Joking of course

[sterile sky]

i usually do hurt me plenty because I suck

[exotic vault]

You don't suck that's a great difficulty to choose to be honest.

I play it like that difficulty because it is a challenge but also fun.

[exotic vault]

No you're just being a casual player which most people are with games so it doesn't matter that you're playing on that difficulty. It's your choice what difficulty you pick

[woven swallow]

I don't know what's causing the issue anymore...

[torpid yacht]

Stopped at map 7 on TNT revilution, nothing crazy so far and the songs reminds me of BTSX, maybe the same composer?

So far the combat is full of ambush n surprises in the mid/final sections.

Feels like a mini plutonia. Haha

Fav so far is were you spawn in front of 5 mancubus.

[limber mirage]

?

[mighty walrus]

It's the one he asked in General...

[median cloud]

TNT Revilution is a good mappack, prefer it over TNT2 Devilution

[crystal hill]

after playing JPCP, I fear I may have overrated Revilution, lol

[median cloud]

UV isnt that much harder then HMP for the original Doom, I think it just feels more intimidating. You should give it a shot and see how you do. Best way to get better is by slightly challenging yourself

[median cloud]

I thought you didnt like JPCP

[crystal hill]

I do like it, but a lot less than the last time I played it a year or so ago

I have a list of my favourite Doom wads. I put JPCP near the bottom of that list before, but now it's dropped off completely on a replay

[median cloud]

And jpcps dissappointment affects your views of TNTR then?

[crystal hill]

it affects my faith in past me's judgement

[median cloud]

Hahah thats fair, I somewhat feel like playing TNTR again now but I still need to finish TNTD

What are some of your favorite wads?

[crystal hill]

Revilution is a 2017 cacoward recipient, so it's time in the spotlight is coming up soon

[crystal hill]

not counting ZDoom stuff, Going Down and Auger Zenith are the top dogs

With Plutonia 2, Speed of Doom and Alien Vendetta all being excellent as well (oh, and Overboard, I almost forgot that)

[median cloud]

Think Ive played all of them except Augur Zenith

[crystal hill]

Auger Zenith has the best worldbuilding in any Doom wad I've played

and this is coming from someone who generally doesn't care about that

it's 15ish maps long, and most of them are quite easy, so it shouldn't take too long to play

[median cloud]

Pl2 I quit at map 29 however, Speed of doom around that poison ivy 2 map (think 23?), Alien Vendetta pretty much 29 as well, Going Down after that mouth map

[crystal hill]

PL2 Map 29 is brutal, I don't blame you for dropping it there. You should at least try 30, it's as good an Icon of Sin map with no gimmicks as any

Poison Ivy 2 feels like a Sunlust map but very short - in that you need a step by step guide on how to get through it, and even then it's a roll of the dice

Still some good maps after that, especially the Darkwave stuff. Resurgence really lacks something from his absence

Going Down is notably easier than all three of those other ones. If you made it to Plut 2 Map 29, you can make it all the way to the end in Going Down, for sure

What're some of YOUR favourite wads?

[median cloud]

Ah yeah I think I finished 30 long before

[median cloud]

Well I put a lot of value to wads I actually finish which are TNTR and Eviternity

So those are definitely some of my favorites

I like Kama Sutra as well but have never finished map 28

[crystal hill]

I do not blame you one bit

That map is sadism personified. I hate it so much

Kama Sutra feels like a mix of peak or near peak Gusta, some of his rejects, and a big steaming dump of maps by method

[crystal hill]

I'm really looking forward to Eviternity, considering how everyone ever seems to praise that one. I've also played Skulldash, another wad by Dragonfly, and had a blast with it

[median cloud]

The first one is easier than the second one

I think my burn out with other wads has more to do with how big and daunting some maps are than their actual quality

On a bad day that 1000 monsters, 30 secrets tnt2 map couldve been a gg for that wad

Especially since the map right after is also pretty tough and long

But to be fair Eviternity map 19 also took me an hour or so to complete

[crystal hill]

MtPain27 gave it an A-, and this was at a time when he was much worse at Doom, so I should be fine

that being said, I'm going into it completely blind, which usually makes me play a lot worse

[crystal hill]

I don't love those kinds of maps unless the wad earns it

[median cloud]

I think in terms of difficulty its about as hard as TNTR or Plutonia

Maybe slightly harder than Plutonia

Definitely not as hard as your av, sod, pl2, hr(2)

[crystal hill]

Probably not, but I'm familiar with all of those (except Hell Revealed 2 because it sucks ass)

[median cloud]

Its honestly one of the better long maps but it has a mean trap somewhat near the end that killed my run

Which was not fun

[crystal hill]

I honestly might have a harder time with Eviternity than my recent run of Plut 2, lol

[crystal hill]

oh dear

[median cloud]

Yeah that was not great

[crystal hill]

A mean trap in a Plutonia sized level isnt great, but at least you didnt lose too much time

a mean trap in a magnus opus level, eugh

[median cloud]

Nah I lost a lot of time it was like 45 minutes into the run

Was really not cool lol

Think I was just bored so I instantly retried the map instead of dropping it

Actually crazy how mtpain27 had to play a wad twice before reviewing it and released new videos almost every 2-3 weeks

No wonder he burnt out

[crystal hill]

That, and he started doing it during covid

plenty of time to play Doom, and the scripts/videos werent as long

[median cloud]

Yeah too bad, he was one of my favorite channels to watch

[crystal hill]

I still watch his videos when I'm playing a wad he's covered, just to see how our opinions differ

he's generally a lot more positive towards stuff than I am, lol

[median cloud]

Hahah I go through his videos multiple times as well.
Recently watched Eviternity, hr, hr2, scythe 2, av and struggle antaresian

I find it hard to gauge how difficult a mappack is now because I’m not sure how my current skill compares to my past self that beat Eviternity for example

I did beat some pretty tough maps recently on chocolate doom which I think is harder to play on than modern source ports

Low frames gives less reaction time and the blurry visuals makes it harder to spot enemies in the distance

[crystal hill]

they're good comfort food. And they also helped me find new wads to play before I decided to play basically everything

[median cloud]

Oh wow I actually beat Eviternity 2 map 27 some time ago

[crystal hill]

but even then, he's played a dozen or so wads that werent mentioned at the cacowards, so there's still something for me to get from those videos

[crystal hill]

I imagine it's a ballbuster?

[crystal hill]

an advantage I have on UZ over people on more faithful ports is that infinitely tall monsters arent a thing

I'm pretty sure I could turn that off, but I'm too used to it at this point. Plus, it can backfire when a swarm of cacos can all fly on top of each other

[median cloud]

Yeah 24, 26 and 27 were all hard

24 is fantastic hard tho

26 is a bit grating imo and 27 I cannot really remember so I dont think I struggled too hard with it

[median cloud]

I have lost runs due to needing to drop somewhere below and a monster being idle there

[crystal hill]

oh yeah, that was sometimes a pain when I was playing Doom 1 KEX for an achievement

speaking of pain - Map 28 of JPCP is kicking my ass. I'm mixed on dropping it or gritting my teeth and beating it though

[median cloud]

Cound grit through it with the risk of being burnt out

[crystal hill]

I suppose. But I've been fearing burn out for a year or so now without any effect, lol

if a map is bad or unfair, I have no qualms about dropping it. Thats what I did with Bloodstain recently

but something about Hellport keeps me coming back

what I do to avoid burnout is play two wads at the same time

[median cloud]

I have a completionist mindset I have trouble skipping maps

[crystal hill]

I'm nearing the end of JPCP, but I'm also playing DTWID Lost Episodes and dying of boredom

[median cloud]

I did skip eviternity 2 map 33 was a weird dodge based map and didnt like it at all

[crystal hill]

same. I usually just quit the wad rather than skip one map, but I've been getting better at that recently

[crystal hill]

map 29 of JPCP is such a mess (intentionally so), that I think I need some kind of panacea after this wad, lol

[crystal hill]

If anyone likes their Doom creepy and atmospheric, I can't recommend Comatose by Lainos enough

[lofty gate]

i've fixed the issue (maybe)

[median cloud]

Ohh I should check it out

Tntr has 2 creepy maps imo

And psx doom can be creepy

[crystal hill]

oh yeah, it has that one map in the middle. transduction?

whatever its called, it's memorable enough to stand out among the rest

[median cloud]

Yeap

Great map

[torpid yacht]

There's tnt1 devilution?

[crystal hill]

Its a subtitle

[torpid yacht]

And whats tnt revilution? 3?

[crystal hill]

different sequel

[median cloud]

TNT2 Devilution was later released than Revilution afaik

[crystal hill]

a lot later

[finite crag]

I'm gonna buy Doom

[main ibex]

what does the steam version of doom have that the online versions of the wads don't?

I'm asking cos I got doom 1 and 2 as separate wads off internet archive and I don't know if there's any difference between those and the version you have to pay for on steam

[little oar]

A different engine (they're in the KEX engine now), all the expansions over the years (No Rest For The Living, Sigil I/II, Final DOOM, Master Levels), a new expansion with Legacy of Rust, Online support, a mod browser

[crystal hill]

Well, they're legal for one thing

[main ibex]

I see

[crystal hill]

the engine and the new expansion are the main attractions to people familiar with Doom

[main ibex]

so I am genuinely missing things

[twin mortar]

No popup when you select Nightmare difficulty
It's over. It's mid.

[main ibex]

I'm not getting banned for this am I

[crystal hill]

probably not

its very easy to get Doom wads these days for many reasons

even though its not legal

[limber mirage]

(But it would be wise to pay the like $2 doom goes on sale for)

(Doom eternal also comes with the wads of doom 1-2 included) which u can put in a source port

Let’s not suggest where to pirate

[crystal hill]

I think the Doom 3 BFG Edition has those wads as well

[limber mirage]

I think you are right

[crystal hill]

If you have the Doom 2 IWAD, you can play 90%+ of the stuff on the id games archive

[twin mortar]

3 BFG's versions are inferior on PC (without a source port) but I really liked that unique Nightmare difficulty

[crystal hill]

its still an easy and legal way to play Doom

[twin mortar]

Oh yeah no I wasn't trying to argue against that, I'm just saying, the port itself without tinkering is kinda bad

[median cloud]

Just beat Eviternity 2 map 24 again because I felt like replaying it and wow

What a map

It's tough but so much fun

@crystal hill you should check out Neon Overdrive seeing how you liked augur zenith so much

[crystal hill]

yeah, that's on the list

the cacowards list that is. It's 2025, so there's a good chance I won't get to it this year, lol

[main ibex]

first I'm hearing of this, I have eternal...

[crystal hill]

install it and find the wad folders in the files

[twilit dune]

What’s everyone’s go-to port? Personally, I use WOOF! the most

[mellow matrix]

I'm also a Woof enjoyer. It has a crunchiness to the textures that I like and I don't need all the speedrun stuff that comes with DSDA DooM. Movement also feels pretty accurate to DOS.

[twin mortar]

I usually just use whatever's official, mostly the KEX port, but if I'm in a source port mood, I like me some Crispy

[twilit dune]

I do really like the improvements of the KEX port from the original unity port, crispy doom is definitely a good option too

[twin mortar]

I've played all three of the big official "remasters" of DOOM and I have to say KEX is easily the best yes

[main ibex]

I never heard of this, I use gzdoom for everything (and vkdoom for some mods)

[crystal hill]

Isn't vkdoom abandoned? what mods use it?

[main ibex]

idk but Endless Madness 2 has its own dedicated fork of vkdoom so I play it on there

as well as brutal doom though I don't think it's required I do so

[crystal hill]

yeah, it had one release and has since shut down

I'm surprised mods have support for it specifically

[main ibex]

em2 I think was made specifically for it

and then raveyard realized most people use gzdoom and ported it there

bro what is john romero playing rn look at his profile

he been doing something for 102 hours

[crystal hill]

probably just kept his game open for a few days straight

[twin mortar]

He's just a hardcore gamer, no rest for the living

[twilit dune]

https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof

this is WOOF! It’s a fairly great source port for casual play and speed running. I can run lots of mods for BOOM, MBF, MBF21, etc

more info is on the github page if you’re interested

[halcyon willow]

Yes, but also no

As a public facing project it's essentially ceased (for the foreseeable future). It is still essentially the engine for Disdain, which is the reason vkdoom was created in the first place

[crystal hill]

never heard of that one before

[finite crag]

I bought Classic Doom

[odd vine]

Why does doom 2 kick my ass harder than eternal and 2016

[finite crag]

Because it's Doom II

[little oar]

More (and harder mostly) enemies than DOOM I, and the level design is a lot more open and enemy-happy

[odd vine]

Ah ok

[torpid yacht]

Play Sigil after

[median cloud]

Maybe u dont have always run on

[odd vine]

Always run is not on for me

[low acorn]

I love playing doom 1 and doom 2

The most

[pastel forge]

[torpid yacht]

Play Sigil, its the 5th episode of Doom1

[solemn socket]

unofficial, that is

[oak adder]

I gotta play brutal doom one day.

[exotic vault]

It's really fun you should you basically get fatalities in classic doom

[oak adder]

I can only really play it through doom + doom 2

[exotic vault]

That's the same thing you can still play it with doom 1 + 2 that's what I'm using with UzDoom to play brutal Doom.

[oak adder]

okay

[exotic vault]

And zpl

Why does doom 64 level 20 through the rest of the game feel different?

[exotic vault]

It feels like the levels are more massive unlike the levels before that would just a maze to go through

[swift condor]

so we discuss about GZDoom here?

[mighty walrus]

yes

[swift condor]

do u guys suggest any mod?

that is lightweight

and gud

[exotic vault]

Well technically people now use Uzdoom but yeah.

[torpid yacht]

Tetanus

[modern peak]

isnt it official now

[crystal hill]

What exactly are you looking for?

[median cloud]

You should enable it for classic doom, no reason to ever have it off and it will make playing the game easier

[woven swallow]

top 10 favorite wads of all time (PLAY IT IF YOU HAVEN'T YET)

1 Eviternity 2
2 Lost Civilization
3 Sunlust
4 Heartland
5 Fractured worlds
6 We have doom at home
7 Ad mortem
8 Antaresian reliquary
9 Preacher
10 Ozonia

[woven swallow]

Turn it on goddamnit!

[crystal hill]

I haven't played most of these, lol. It'll be interesting to see how I rank them when I eventually do

[odd vine]

It’s so easy now I have it on

[crystal hill]

custom wads almost always account for you having auto run on

[median cloud]

There are a lot of custom wads that make the game way way harder, even Plutonia would be painful to play with always run off.

[median cloud]

Do you remember what map leads to map 36 in Eviternity 2? Is it map 27?

[crystal hill]

wiki says map 29

[median cloud]

Ah okay that's later than I expected

I gotta convince myself to play 28, 29, 30, 36 then

Almost finished the mappack

@woven swallow do you have a favorite map in Eviternity 2

[crystal hill]

sounds like the wad is a slog, in a way

[median cloud]

The later maps are all just long and harder

I do feel like I had an easier time finishing Eviternity 1

Evi 2 burnt me out a bit

[crystal hill]

well, sequels generally are harder

Both Plutonia sequels I've played and Revilution are harder than the OGs

[median cloud]

I mean easier time finishing in both a sense of willing to finish the mappack and in terms of difficulty

[crystal hill]

ahh, right

are the levels too long, or more unfair?

[median cloud]

But yeah length + difficulty burns me out

[crystal hill]

I'm fine with difficult, so long as it's not BS

[median cloud]

They aren't unfair I think the difficulty is well orchestrated. Not a lot of maps feel like bullshit

I replayed Evi 2 Map 24 again yesterday and despite being pretty tough, it was really fun to play

I think my skill also improved a bit since I did it on my second try now while I could barely remember the map

[crystal hill]

An example I've just played - Fomalhaut from THT Threnody (is this a TNT sequel?) - its almost an hour long, but completely fair in what it does to you

you always have more than enough time, space and ammo to fight back the hordes if you're smart

[median cloud]

It is a TNT sequel and I understand hour long maps can be fair but if I have to do like 5 in a row I just get burnt out

I force myself to single segment so playing a long map always feels daunting

[swift condor]

can u guys like suggest some pk3 gun mod?

[crystal hill]

better to ask in #classic-doom-maps-mods

[swift condor]

ohh ok

thanks

[crystal hill]

I have a system where I play two wads at the same time

If one wad has a massive hour long map, I compensate by playing multiple shorter maps in that other wad

[median cloud]

I can do this with TNTD and Evi 2 then aha

[crystal hill]

well, this system works best with a long map wad and a short map one

I was under the impression TNTD had some long maps

[median cloud]

Not as long as the Eviternity ones and not a lot either

I think I finished both long maps being 19 and 20

And tbf 19 can be really short if you don't uvmax it

[crystal hill]

that's somewhat of a relief for the future

[woven swallow]

my ranking for eviternity2's chapter
1st place Chapter 3: Petrified
2nd place Chapter 1: Withered
3rd place Chapter 4: Bastion
4th place Chapter 6: Celestial
5th place Chapter 2: Sanctuary
6th place Chapter 5: Hyperborean

[median cloud]

Snow one the least favorite?

[woven swallow]

yes

its good, but i did not enjoy as much as i did for other chapters

[rugged parcel]

The containment area In the shores of hell is so hard at the start, I died like a million times to imp's cause there was like a thousand of them. I literally had to run around the map, parkouring against the imps, barely escaping there attack. Doesn't help the fact that u only have a very limited amount of ammo, and a pistol, getting a shotgun In the level is so hard 🥹 I always play at ultra-violence, but this was the first time In my whole playthrough where I was genuinely getting shitted on by the demons, and cause I constantly had so low ammo, I literally had to lure the demons to go under the doors which go up and down, and then get squeezed. Still haven't beaten the level. But I'm in a much better situation now that I figured out that if u run to a imp, and then punch them, they die from one punch. So that has helped alot, no need for ammo.

Wait, sorry. Was it prohibited to swear In here?

[crystal hill]

it's fine, if its not excessive

[rugged parcel]

Ah alright, ty for telling

[crystal hill]

the trick to containment area is to use the berserk as a weapon

the red tint on your screen fades after a while, but it's permanent for the level you are on, so you can use it all the way through

[torpid yacht]

Go Mike Tyson mode 👊

[halcyon willow]

It sure fucking isn't

[rugged parcel]

That's just what I saw In the rules 😔✌️

So i asked

[woven swallow]

watch Bigmacdavis, he helped me playthrough doom

[polar fossil]

does anyone know if the doom expansions (the ones in the steam rerelease and the lost levels in 64) are canon? ive always thought they are but ive heard some say they arent and im confused

[sonic cedar]

probably yes because even doom 3 is canon which MOST (not all) people dislike/dont find canon

[calm lichen]

Its up in the air

[woven swallow]

Isn't doom 3 a complete different timeline with a completely new protagonist?

[polar fossil]

thats what i thought

[calm lichen]

Doom 1-64 aren’t really clear about the story since they were about the gameplay rather than the lore

[woven swallow]

I even heard it's not even a part of the actual doom lore

[calm lichen]

What we know for sure is Doom, Doom 2, and 64 are canon with Doom 3 and rpg 1&2 being an alt universe

[wet merlin]

It Is, it's just a different timeline, Hell is the only constant

[calm lichen]

It is. Slayer even has the Soulcube in his room in Eternal

[sonic cedar]

no apparently its the same timeline just a diff protagonist

[wet merlin]

It is a different timeline

[sonic cedar]

o

it still is canon doe

[wet merlin]

DOOM 1 -> DOOM 2 -> DOOM 64 -> DOOM TDA -> DOOM 2016 -> DOOM Eternal (and DLC)

[wet merlin]

Yes, Hell is the same as the others since there's only one Hell

[calm lichen]

Yeah, Doom 3 is basically a side game

Or would it be a spinoff

[finite crag]

Im gonna try nightmare mode

[distant flume]

same

[finite crag]

Good luck mate

[distant flume]

fr

[median cloud]

tnt2 devilution map 23 is fucking infuriating

[mellow matrix]

I tapped out at MAP16 so you got further than I did lol

[remote nexus]

my theory is that is a time line that if doomguy never quit being a marine and lived in the technologic age still a great game

[ruby jay]

Started playing eviternity with no one told me about Id mod. It's so fun

[torpid yacht]

I have not played it but its in my list for the future, is it difficult?

[red dune]

It’s not too bad

For difficultly I mean

[ruby jay]

It get challenging pretty quick. First 2 maps are ezpz but it picks up fast

[median cloud]

Map 23 is obnoxious

Health and ammo pickups are low

One secret requires an arch vile jump

Arches being spawned in after every major event so they can revive half the lobby while you're already low on ammo

I hate difficulty like this in custom maps so fun because it's not fun to beat

If you beat a difficult map that feels overwhelming you get some form of satisfaction but if you just beat a map thats really low on resources it just feels meh

[exotic vault]

I have officially beaten the main campaign and the Lost levels in doom 64 remaster in 27 hours. With 9/10 achievements.

[torpid yacht]

Did u finished it?

[oak adder]

nice

[median cloud]

Okay maybe TNT2 Devilution is just becoming way harder now

Map 24 was also a tough cookie, entire map is covered in lava almost and you need to use rad suits to not die

[cyan crown]

IS boom better tha ndoom yes or no

[median cloud]

Boom is an emulator for doom

[median cloud]

Yeah TNT2 Devilution is a lot less good than TNT Revilution

lots of stinkers to play through now

[crystal hill]

oh dear

[nova dawn]

Hi, wanted to ask. My House lists the recommended source port as GZDoom, but drama happened there. Is UZDoom fine?

[crystal hill]

yeah

[lunar rune]

NTMAI is really fun, I remember doing an entire CC4 playthrough with it

Back when it had just came out, I remember seeing it on a video and I was like "Well that looks great", tried it out with CC4 and it was very enjoyable

[uneven tangle]

Wait what happened with GZdoom?

[woven swallow]

Ai code

[uneven tangle]

Oh shit

[crystal hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7PePRUmGdg

[woven swallow]

And almost all the devs left gzdoom to fork under a

[woven swallow]

DWARSS!!!! this guy

[ruby jay]

Not yet I'm playing through it now

[ruby jay]

I love it. My fav mod

[lunar rune]

Also Graf in general has always been an asshat

Wrong thing to reply to but whatever

[crystal hill]

he has been

[ruby jay]

Lol he was making changes and ai code. Got cocky told them to make a fork if they want. They did

[woven swallow]

Not usually a fan of gameplay mods but this one, I'll let it slide

[torpid yacht]

Might play it after I finish TNT Revilution

[median cloud]

Okay TNT2 Map 26 was really good

[torpid yacht]

Or idk i was thinking of playing plutonia 2, n dont know if theres TNT2 on the ps5

[crystal hill]

plut 2 is a right pain in the rear to play

[cyan crown]

didint he bitchabout sombody making a glitch map for zdoom?

[crystal hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnjLZow4zK0

[main ibex]

the chicken man's boundless rage

[finite crag]

myHouse.wad

[oak adder]

actually i have played brutal doom but it doesn't deliver

boiled doom is where its at imo

[slim dust]

I was playing the brutal doom mod with the goal of seeing how many Marines I can save by the end of the game.

To just now remember about map 23.

[crystal hill]

THT Threnody is better than I remembered it

there's some crap maps, but there's a lot more decent or even good ones

[fresh glacier]

I can’t pass this level on eviternity map 25 for the life of me!!! Any tips?

[median cloud]

Is that the final hell map?

[fresh glacier]

No it’s a map called “slave” I finally completed it though

[median cloud]

Ya thats what I was thinking of

I love map 26 of Eviternity

[fresh glacier]

I’that’s what I’m working on now

Completed ancient aliens now eviternity next is eviternity 2

[median cloud]

I found Evi 2 a lot harder than the first one

[fresh glacier]

Idk maybe I’ll try a slaughter map next

[median cloud]

Could do the classics

Like alien vendetta or hell revealed

[fresh glacier]

Which do you recommend

[median cloud]

Alien vendetta, speed of doom and scythe 2
Theyre not full slaughter like sunder

[fresh glacier]

Ok I’ll try each of them

[median cloud]

Dont get burnt out

[severe parcel]

can this server help with my doom mod?

or is it just for the games

and not mods

[main ibex]

#classic-doom-maps-mods

I'll be open to help you there

[fresh glacier]

I’ll never get burnt out on classic doom but Brütal doom not a big fan of

[smoky radish]

Hey anyone want to join doom 1 plus 2

If so the code is CLLT

[torpid yacht]

Stopped at map 12 on TNT Revilution
I think there was a secret exit on map 11, didn't bother looking for the blue key. So far im having fun with it, gameplay is way better than the original.

[fresh glacier]

Bro I made it to the last map how is this even possible?!

[glass helm]

I'll have to say, the Nightdive remasters of the classic DOOM games have been such a treat, been loving what they did all around, the all-in-one package for DOOM and DOOM II are much appreciated.

PS: I also got it for free so like, I got a bunch of good ol' classic DOOM content to enjoy, so I'm even more happy.

[median cloud]

The last map isnt that hard imo haha

I was stuck longer at 29

[woven swallow]

You can dm for more wad recommendations if you are interested in it

[woven swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262680151657807902/1461021867421732936/FWMAP01UV-00022.lmp?ex=69690a25&is=6967b8a5&hm=42b0192a3074417772acc01402199d028319bd94aa2416c40d5f95c58d42785a&

Demo completion
IWAD: Doom2.wad
PWAD: FW.wad
Complevel: 9
Skill: 4
Category: UV-max
Attempts: 22
WAD Download link: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/fw
Demo Author: KennyisALIVE
Map Author: Nirvana

[crystal hill]

I've almost finished THT Threnody, and I was having a good time

until the last map killed me twice with a long range sniping cyberdemon, and suddenly I remember at least part of why I disliked it

[low acorn]

Classic doom makes me feel better when I have a bad day I take my anger out on the demons of hell

[remote nexus]

hell yeah

[remote nexus]

your not allowed to punch kids so thi is the next best thing

[hollow tree]

I feel sorry for the cacos though

[low acorn]

Yes, they are a lovable meatball of chaos. I used to call them hisses when I was a child.

[hollow tree]

That is a good name. In the Doom novel Flynn calls them pumpkins.

[main ibex]

crackassdemons

[oak adder]

those are the ones ive played

[hollow elbow]

brutal doom is one of the best mods, agree?

[woven swallow]

no

most overrated mod ever

[merry vine]

brutal doom looks cool but its so overrated

[woven swallow]

I don't like brutal doom, but you have to meet.... it is objectively a good doom mod it pains me to to say that

[merry vine]

it plays cool... only sometimes though. It is a nice mod with a lot of effort put into it but still it's not precisely my cup of tea

[woven swallow]

i couldn't agree more

[crystal hill]

I'm naturally biased against it due to how fundamentally it changes Doom, while still looking like Doom

[uneven tangle]

Have you considered… playing classic DOOM without mods?

[modern peak]

billions must play kex engine port

[woven swallow]

you think i only play classic doom just for the mods

[woven swallow]

it's a good port, better than the original unity port, easy multiplayer, and more engine support for custom maps and mods (i guess) and is Cross-platform......it's good but not as good as the fan-made ports for doom (not comparing kex to zdoom ports btw)

[main ibex]

since barons and hell knights look the same in the game is it safe to say they're the same species

and the barons are just older knights maybe

[torpid yacht]

Yeah but different ethnicity

[modern peak]

doom 64 added racism to doom

awesome

[median cloud]

TNT2 Devilution map 27 was harddd

these past few maps have been tough icl

[sterile sky]

W doom ❤️‍🩹

I'm joking

[finite crag]

lol

[oak adder]

boiled doom

[celest tulip]

Does anyone know of any WADs that are winter-themed, but not christmas-themed? Specifically, ones that do not use MBF to introduce new monsters like Winter's Fury. Snowy techbases and the like.

Preferably a bit more modern-themed than Eviternity Map11-15

[crystal hill]

Plut 2's Black Ice has a wintery map which is very good. Resurgence's last third is winter themed as well

[median cloud]

that black ice map is great

Eviternity 1 and 2 also have a winter chapter

[crystal hill]

it might be my favourite in Plut 2

the midi kicks ass to boot

[halcyon willow]

Whitemare

iirc Rush has a few snow themed maps too

[celest tulip]

I know Resurgence is pretty wildly imbalanced in terms of difficulty, I'm looking for something that a beginner to doom can play
(A friend of mine wants to play some new weapon/enemy conversion mod in a semi lore-accurate setting but she doesn't play a lot of doom)

Map11-Map15 of Eviternity and Winter's Fury look promising but they both make use of MBF monster additions that might break when loaded alongside another mod that also changes content

especially since UZDoom doesn't do "load orders" to my knowledge

I'm currently looking over a list made by 4ShockBlast but a lot of this stuff is christmas or snow-themed
Perhaps "Snow-blasted apocalypse/nuclear winter" is a relatively unexplored setting for doom? Hmm...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15Jrq6EZ8d6JMDE5iJfK-eO22c3diqDvZ6LfDICtB724/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[crystal hill]

I'd suggest letting her play the doom wad without any gameplay changes, if she doesnt play a lot of doom to begin with

[celest tulip]

Well the mod consists entirely of gameplay changes, with only one included title map that I can see in SLADE (the titlemap wad contains only one map)
I think it's meant to be loaded alongside another mapset, which is why i'm looking for one that fits
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/448666685050716160/1461103037509800110/image.png?ex=6969fe7e&is=6968acfe&hm=79c54a8051b5bb93de8e0eaa57b4bda3dfc719f3d4bcf48c06fceb25b929bba3&

[finite crag]

Doom II is my new favorite game

[crystal hill]

what'd you like about it?

[finite crag]

Everything

Retro
Tuff
Tough
Sigma

[crystal hill]

neat

its been surpassed by many, many wads for me, but I still admire it's creativity

lots of distinct level design ideas

[winter spindle]

yeah

it's pretty good imo

I loved how you had to search everywhere to find keys for example

I remember that the blue key in the first level of Doom 2

was only accesible in a corner

that was really hiden

[main ibex]

is it safe to say the plasma gun outclasses the chaingun

[median cloud]

Ofcourse it does chaingun is good for sniping

[main ibex]

wouldn't the pistol be more ammo-efficient since you only fire once

[median cloud]

Pistol dps is too low and ammo is never that big of an issue that you need to resort to it

Plus if you tap fire your chaingun you’re accurate and only use 2 bullets

[main ibex]

I thought the second bullet was always off-target

[halcyon willow]

Yes it does, but just use launcher like zdl

[bitter shoal]

Was watching Improvers play Speed of DOOM map 2 and using the chaingun to make a safer escape from an ambush is a good use of the weapon, esp. since it stuns arachnotrons so easily.

[finite crag]

Is Doom 64 worth it?

[halcyon willow]

Doom 64 slaps

[torpid yacht]

Idk i never played it

[halcyon willow]

Vibes are impeccable

[main ibex]

compensates for the "music"

[cinder sapphire]

seems some people like it and some don't. I liked it but it was a different vibe. leaned more into horror than the previous ones.

[halcyon willow]

Aubrey hodges is the goat

Doom 64's music is also impeccable

[main ibex]

I didn't even know there was music

[halcyon willow]

Perfectly fits the game

[main ibex]

most of what I heard was ambient stuff

[halcyon willow]

Yes

Ambient is a music genre

[main ibex]

yeah it just doesn't even sound like it would qualify as music

ambient noise more than much else

[halcyon willow]

it's composed

Therefore music

[main ibex]

sure

[woven swallow]

Eisberg

IWAD: Doom2
PWAD: Eisberg.wad
Complevel: Default
Sourceport: Uzdoom
Download link: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/152701-udmf-eisberg-32-map-singleplayer-megawad-v_22/
Author: Galatic

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167762378197311528/1461574109069705267/IMG_6857.png?ex=696b0c76&is=6969baf6&hm=d7bcac2d5f7e05586e4f4fd6d6b364fd0c45e69c680824b9531e6a0108015cf6&

[crystal hill]

Has anyone played Echelon by Sverre Kvernmo?

[finite crag]

Doom 6 7

[woven swallow]

bruh

[spiral umbra]

Ultrakill

[hollow tree]

[woven swallow]

https://youtu.be/qiBwtTRNBuk

[median cloud]

This is a good video, watched it some time ago

[azure ingot]

Hi
Wondering which rendering API for UZdoom is better
Vulkan or OpenGl
Ive been using vulkan but i wonder about public opinion

[median cloud]

I think vulkan gives more fps so its probably nicer in that regard

Im not sure about the visul differences

[torpid yacht]

TNT Revilution keeps getting better, stopped at map 15.

So far I've been playing like 4-6 maps every 4days or week

[bitter shoal]

I think I've mainly heard positive reception about Revilution so far

[crystal hill]

I like it well enough

Only played it once though, so it's possibly my opinion will shift on replay

[crystal hill]

Echelon is a really weird wad. It claims to be a retelling of Doom II, and it kind of is, but the levels are almost all really damn short, and there's weird custom enemies in it. Worth a play just for the novelty

[merry vine]

HELL FUCKING YEAA

[torpid yacht]

Tnt revilution lvl16 last fight looks difficult, somehow I got it in 3 tries by luck

[torpid yacht]

Stopped at 20
Maps are getting bigger n confusing

[true charm]

yo

[median cloud]

19 is a mean one with the cyber at the end

I know it killed me once

Awesome midi tho

[median cloud]

Is that the one with the archviles? That one killed me as well

[tight laurel]

i beat plutonia!!

with secret levels too

[crystal hill]

congrats!

what're you thinking of playing next?

[tight laurel]

doom zero or maybe scythe

not sure

[crystal hill]

I havent played Doom Zero, but Scythe 1 is a good pick for a first wad

[median cloud]

Except map 30

Its my next challenge to finish scythe map 30

[crystal hill]

well, expect the last 5 or so

[median cloud]

Prob the hardest map Ive beaten if I beat it

[crystal hill]

But it's very, VERY gentle at the start, and gradually ramps up over the course of its runtime

[torpid yacht]

It was a tight area with hk, baron, n revenant

[woven swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452632530061627434/1462490430984687667/SUNDER01UVMAX.lmp?ex=696e61da&is=696d105a&hm=50b8ef359133b0d727bc4ac75722ebcb54e8fc96ce80274efc8bbeff64f17918&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1452632530061627434/1462490431450386473/SUNDER02UVMAX-00003.lmp?ex=696e61da&is=696d105a&hm=68bd6440af0575c369f35784be7a50c4c8fd8ccf0796502d31802461599d6eaf&

Demo Completion
IWAD: Doom2.wad
PWAD: Sunder 2512.wad
Complevel: 9
Skill: 4 (UV)
Category: UV-max
Attempts: 1 attempt on map 01, 3 attempts on map 02
Sourceport: Dsda-doom
WAD Download link: you know what sunder is, search it up yourself, VEGA won't let me send the link for some reason
Demo Author: KennyisALIVE
Map Author: Insane_GaZebo

[finite crag]

How to mod classic doom 2?

[calm lichen]

GZDoom and if ya want to make things easier get a mod launcher like ZDL

[desert tinsel]

udm3 classic deathmatch on odamex 12.1.0 rn if anyone wants to join in the fun

[median cloud]

Scythe map 30 is kicking my ass

[halcyon willow]

Scythe map 30 do have some teeth

[median cloud]

Beat most of HR prior to this but this one is tougher

[main ibex]

apparently doom 1 had the subtitle "evil unleashed" in v0.3

[uncut pendant]

Did doomguy originally have shoulder pads? A lot of official minis of classic doom guy have them, even the reaper mini looks to have them. Maybe I’m just mistaking the shirt but they look like shoulder pads. To be fair I actually prefer this look, it looks cool but I’m curious if they were ever used in doom 1,2,64, or quake 3?

[bitter shoal]

In his in-game sprite his armor was pretty form fitting like a shirt, nothing like american football shoulder pads or Blizzard pauldrons. Episode 4's ending does redesign his armor to have more detailed shoulder pads though (they aren't super pronounced still, but are more distinguishable)

and then modern games redesign his "classic" look again to have a harder separation between the shoulders and chest portion so I'm assuming whatever merchandise that is made is based on that version

[past knoll]

Hello 👋🏾 everyone. New here. I'm playing Project Brutality rn

[hollow tree]

cool, which IWAD?

[crystal hill]

Thats kind of intended

[median cloud]

I just expected it to be in the same ballpark as other hard maps like AV map 25/27 or HR map 23,24,26

But it's been a lot harder

Though I think I can beat it so it's a matter of time

[humble timber]

Hey guys, is anyone still playing Doom 2016? I've almost platinumed the game, but I'm missing the multiplayer trophies. I've spent two hours without finding a single match. Can anyone help me? 😅
https://profile.playstation.com/momo120009
My profile

[modern peak]

no

[compact dew]

This is a new All-in-One launcher that lets you play classic Doom multiplayer without port forwarding. Hosting is easy and completely free.
If you've ever given up on multiplayer because hosting was too annoying, give this a try.

https://x.com/TracNetwork/status/2011257648004661687

Trac Network (@TracNetwork)

Trac Doom is now listed on https://t.co/vcqREXEnde for download - easy installation available now!

"It's like a good old LAN party, but without all the cables" -- The Doom Guy, 2026

https://t.co/tWzyNlOHbo

X · Jan 14, 2026, 2:02 AM

[crystal hill]

Yeah, its quite infamous for that, especially for its age

[crystal hill]

You can already play classic doom multiplayer on the D1+2 port. Forgive me, but this smells a lil suspicious

[main ibex]

this was the best generation of cacodemons

back when they were meaningful threats

and not the meaningless shitspheres they are in eternal and to a lesser extent 2016

[modern peak]

atleast they are more threatening than revenants

[crystal hill]

ehhhh. Cacodemons aren't super scary in Doom 1, unless they're in a horde

[main ibex]

true

[crystal hill]

you can pistol a cacodemon to death with enough time and some space

[main ibex]

yeah you literally have to do this in e3m1

[modern peak]

you can do the same with anything

[main ibex]

depends on the ammo

[crystal hill]

you don't have to. You can rush past and get the shotgun

[crystal hill]

some enemies are more dangerous though. I'd say a lot are

[main ibex]

oh I've never not killed it

[crystal hill]

its much quicker to avoid enemies until you get better guns in some levels

[torpid yacht]

Might finish tntrevilution today

[desert tinsel]

Getting a game of UDM3 deathmatch going on Odamex if anyone wants to join the server and frag out

[finite crag]

Doom II is the greatest

[wicked lynx]

W

Best doom Game (and my first videogame btw)

[finite crag]

Goated

[wicked lynx]

Thanks but yeah, i play It with 4 years old

[median cloud]

I beat Scythe Map 30 Fire and Ice!!

[kindred hornet]

hard map! with all the cybers and that especially

@tulip gorge what megawad should i try and play next i want something tech base related much like eviternity's second chapter style and challenging

[crystal hill]

bro, don't ping everyone over that

[median cloud]

ya mightve been the hardest map I finished uv max pistol start

tho tbf most of my deaths were during the start of the level

HR map 23 and map 26 also took me tons of tries I remember

[kindred hornet]

HR was hard as well quite an early wad as well isnt it?

[median cloud]

Yeah like 1996

[torpid yacht]

How long it took?

[median cloud]

The run was about 35 minutes but I played extremely careful

In real time I think about 2 days

Id say about 10-20 tries

[torpid yacht]

Im at tnt revilution map25
Ill play scythe next to see what's up

[median cloud]

it starts super easy

like under 50 monsters per level easy

[finite crag]

I'm probably gonna play Doom II tomorrow

[torpid yacht]

Finished TNT Revilution
Im rating it 8/10

[grave elbow]

hello

i want to play some wads someone has a recommendation?

[solemn socket]

EVITERNITY!

[torpid yacht]

Sigil
Its the 5th episode of doom 1 made by John Romero himself.

[dire terrace]

I think the song redneck stomp by obituary will be great as a doom midi. What do you think?
https://youtu.be/c1QdE9LP6Ec?si=CHQAkH0o1jkm0Wbz

[restive anchor]

Hello mates.
I just beat Plutonia Experiment on Ultra Violence 🙃

[crystal hill]

well done! what're you going to play now?

[restive anchor]

Want to beat classic doom (doom + doom 2 on steam) to 100% achievement

So I'm going to play 'The rest for the living '

[crystal hill]

Good luck with that. There's one hard achievement, then you get a bunch of easy ones, and finally the ones for beating every individual game

[restive anchor]

But later, cause I am a bit tired of Doom

[modern peak]

which hard achievement are you even referring to

theres like none

[restive anchor]

Yeah

[crystal hill]

the one where you beat 9 levels in a row all under the par time

[modern peak]

the humble ultimate doom episode 1

[restive anchor]

I got it!

[crystal hill]

yeah?

[modern peak]

im pretty sure you can get that achievement with no monsters

[crystal hill]

it's easy if you do that or use cheats

I meant doing it legit, no cheats, UV, all monsters

[modern peak]

i mean doing it no monsters isnt technically cheating if it is a speedrun catagory

[restive anchor]

I haven't got 'The rest for no living' 'Sigil 1+2' and 'Legacy of rust' achievements

[modern peak]

the game gives you the option to do it

[crystal hill]

I consider it cheating for that achievement

because without it those levels are really easy to get par on. No need to focus on anything at all except just running through the levels

[restive anchor]

Oh and other 3 achievements from Legacy of Rust

That's all

[restive anchor]

I've never used cheats in doom

[modern peak]

its like using super costumes to get the all s ranks achievement for dmc3

like in other dmc games if you use super costumes you get - points to total ranking, but dmc3 allows it so its not cheating

[restive anchor]

And speedrun 8 levels like in the first episode of doom, that is not even so hard

[modern peak]

also its an ingame option not like a console command

[crystal hill]

I think that's a cheat as well

So - I've rushed through all the Doom E1 levels with no monsters. Really easy like I thought, this is nothing close to a challenge. But this won't let you get the achievement, unless there's some way to beat E1M8 without the barons being there

[crystal hill]

also also, it seems you need to unlock those costumes, which makes them less cheaty, since you need to do something else that's hard to unlock them. Doom's cheats are on by default

[modern peak]

i only consider it cheating achievements if you have to go out of your way to use something not in the base game to actually get it

i.e console commands, external apps or mods

if the base game gives you an option right there and its not an exception for the achievement, then its not cheating imo

is it cheesing? maybe, but not cheating

[crystal hill]

I can't feel it isn't cheating if it removes 80-90% of the difficulty

[modern peak]

the devs couldve very easily added an exception like other games do with their own achievements

[crystal hill]

and they should have

[modern peak]

but they didnt

and if its allowed then its not cheating, its just using what the base game lets you use normally

[crystal hill]

I don't really care if the developers say it isn't cheating. I have my own views on this

I can't see an option to remove all the enemies in this fps game to get an achievement much easier as anything else

[modern peak]

i mean yeah fair you can have your own view im just saying my perspective and how i personally cant really bring myself to consider it actual cheating

[crystal hill]

fair enough

[median cloud]

Scythe is really a crazy wad

starts out so easy and then the last level is just crazy tough

the WAD would absolutely forgotten if it weren't for this map tho

[crystal hill]

People have a thing for this wad outside of fire and ice

Plus it's the first big work by Erik Alm, who used to be a bit of a celebrity

[median cloud]

as a speedrunner or why?

[crystal hill]

as a guy who made maps

Everyone glazes Scythe II, and they dream about him returning to finish Scythe X

[median cloud]

Well I understand the glaze for Scythe 2

One of the first wads I played through

on ITYTD tho haha

[crystal hill]

yeah, and Scythe 1 is the first Scythe wad

[median cloud]

Right retroactive celebrity you'd say

Scythe is popular because of Scythe 2

[crystal hill]

I also consider Scythe to be good on it's own

its not very pretty or has original music really, but it plays well, especially in the middle/end

That being said, I've got the controversial opinion of not really loving his work like everyone else does

[modern peak]

not sure which wad i should play after i finish 100%ing doom 3, i havent actually finished any custom wads before

[crystal hill]

have you played plutonia and TNT? If not, start with those

[modern peak]

only the official ones

[modern peak]

plenty of times

[crystal hill]

if yes, scythe 1, whispers of satan or fava beans if you like Doom 1

[modern peak]

might start with scythe then, a lot of people been talking about it recently

like ive tried getting into player wads before a while ago but ive just never been able to finish them

like during the unity port i tried getting into doom zero and scientist and whatnot but i never finished them

later i tried speed of doom and also just never finished it

[crystal hill]

Speed of Doom is very difficult, you're not finishing that after Plutonia

[modern peak]

i mean ive played all the official iwads

how much harder is it really over like lor

[crystal hill]

Scythe's gimmick is ramping up difficulty. Episode 1 is Doom 1 levels of easy. Episode 2 is more like Doom 2 or TNT, Episode 3 is akin to Plutonia, and the last few levels are much harder. Map 30 is a meme

[modern peak]

ive played like 5 maps of sod, maybe a bit more idr

[crystal hill]

I havent played LoR, but it's shorter than Speed of Doom, so I imagine it's easier

[modern peak]

play lor

it peaks

[crystal hill]

I'm going through the cacowards chronologically now

So I'll get to it maybe late this year lol

[modern peak]

its like 2 episodes

[crystal hill]

I'm aware

I'm not in the habit of skipping ahead

[median cloud]

Scythe is like ridiculously easy until map 21

then it becomes a bit harder and then map 30 is just extreme

[crystal hill]

there's some difficulty to it from the 2nd third onward if you ask me

[median cloud]

like a lot

[median cloud]

Still easier than just baseline Plutonia

[crystal hill]

Sure. But it's not ridiculously easy

[median cloud]

Okay that's fair

It gets to around TNT levels in difficulty

the first 10 maps are really easy tho like actually Doom 1 might pose more of a challenge

Just realized MtPain27 has yet to review Legacy Of Rust

[crystal hill]

that came out after the end of season 3

[median cloud]

you mean Legacy of Rust came out after?

[crystal hill]

yes

he was suffering from burn out long before then

[median cloud]

I remember him uploading a new wad review almost every 2-3 weeks before. Knowing this means playing the WAD twice, writing a script and editing the video thats a crazy pace

especially once you get to wads that actually take multiple tries to complete

Sad because now his upload schedule is abyssmal

He was the only person I ever supported on patreon but shortly after he had his burn out, eventually cancelled my subscription

[crystal hill]

well, he started during covid, so he had plenty of time

[crystal hill]

again, he's burnt out on Doom. The videos he does now are more focused on the artsy aspect of maps than how they play

[crystal hill]

something nice about that is that he frequently doesn't charge people if he feels he's not going to earn the money

[median cloud]

Burnt out for almost 2 years now

[crystal hill]

5 videos in 2 years isn't great. The latest one had more to it than the rest at least

[sharp veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1140696964263067810/1463201768874840267/Armoury_Crate_SE_01_20_2026_15_41_19.jpg?ex=6970f856&is=696fa6d6&hm=1d86f03eb54793a476deeba936a75415017e3dea75bfaa028dd0b1a6f0ee13d0&

DBP 25 was certainly an experience

[crystal hill]

what theme was it?

[sharp veldt]

Lovecraft stuff

it's less of atmospheric experience but more of aesthetic, it's fittingly bizarre and weird in a lot of ways, also designed with nightmare difficulty in mind

[modern peak]

currently running through the bfg edition of the games and something about the chaingun just feels more powerful

im not sure what it is but it just feels so much better than any other chaingun

[crystal hill]

sounds like its worth a play. Maybe if I ever finish the cacowards, I'll give the DBPs a try

[crystal hill]

right now though, I'm playing through Ancient Aliens. Much like the rest of Skillsaw's stuff, I really underappreciated it before now, but I finally see the light on how great it is

[ruby jay]

Listening to doom guy life in first person on audible. It's pretty good

[finite crag]

I cant play Doom anymore, it just wont open.

[drowsy arrow]

To the Doom 1 and 2 players, does anyone know what map this is?
You start outside a wall that has a river of lava/blood, there are also some boxes in this area, which you have to climb and go through the wall (window), the scenery resembles a castle setting, including a bridge in this area that you enter after going through the window.

[main ibex]

do you know definitively whether it's doom 1 or doom 2?

and do you know if it's official?

[drowsy arrow]

doom 2, custom map

[main ibex]

is it well-known? does it use custom textures?

[drowsy arrow]

Use normal textures at the beginning, grass floor, gray or greenish walls.

[woven swallow]

Do you remember anything else?

[drowsy arrow]

The level was castle-style with bars on the windows. Inside, there was like a river of lava or blood. I remember there was a BFG in that stage.

It had what appeared to be round rooms with a hole in the middle that led to the river.

[woven swallow]

Sounds like going down.wad, maybe

[drowsy arrow]

At the beginning of the spawn, you had to climb over some boxes and rocks to get past the window in the wall that limited the spawn area.

[drowsy arrow]

I will check

[drowsy arrow]

No, you started in a pseudo-open area, with grass and a river of lava or blood. To the left were the rocks, and to the right was a large, tall wall with windows that you had to pass through. After that, there was a kind of bridge to access the "castle."

[bitter shoal]

this sounds like it could be a lot of maps, especially newer ones that like to make castle hell maps scenic

anyway, Exploring Lost Wads channel is on some creepy pasta stuff rn, I'm down for it

[halcyon willow]

E2M1 of Doom 1

If you're talking about a custom map then who knows lol

[main ibex]

he said it was custom

there's a few other details like the presence of grass that also disprove this

[halcyon willow]

The initial description lacked those details

[sharp veldt]

welcome back Interloper

we're on a rise of Doom web series

[bitter shoal]

I'm actually gonna go back and watch the earlier episodes just to enhance the context a bit

[terse yoke]

Which software you use to open it?

[woven swallow]

then play in a sourceport

https://youtu.be/L94DpMsIf7k

[woven swallow]

it could be anything at this point....

[median cloud]

River Styx? TNT Map 29

Pretty sure this is the one you're talking about

Ah nvm it was custom lol

Maybe some Alien Vendetta map?

AV Map 11

[finite crag]

Steam

[woven swallow]

I recommend playing through doom on a sourceport instead of steam doesn't work

If you insist on playing doom on steam, then I guess verify the integrity on steam and see if that works

[woven swallow]

Alien Vendetta 09

check it out

[whole meteor]

whats the best mod for gz doom to help fix the gameplay on ep 3 and 4 for first playthrough

[crystal hill]

what do you mean fix the gameplay?

[woven swallow]

Can you elaborate further on what you mean exactly?

[whole meteor]

Like glitches with ai and weapon shot delay

[crystal hill]

both of those are part of the game

[whole meteor]

Oh ok

So just get smooth doom

[crystal hill]

???

[woven swallow]

I am so confused

[woven swallow]

Smooth doom just makes the weapons animation smoother

[whole meteor]

K

[modern peak]

what is bro on about

[terse yoke]

Did you try to verify files in Steam, then click on Steam, Options and there in the options you can find Verify Files... maybe something got corrupted and prevent you playing the game.

[crystal hill]

I'm going to be replaying TNT Revilution now. I wonder if it holds up as well as I remember it

[mellow matrix]

Rusty Drill tells you it gets harder in the last third but holy shit it's an insane difficulty spike. The last fight of MAP25 is at least 3 tiers above whatever my skill level is.

[median cloud]

In tnt revilution?

[crystal hill]

Rusty Drill is a 2025 wad

[mellow matrix]

Nah Rusty Drill is a megawad that emulates Scythe/Scythe 2 made by A2Rob and friends.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/150185-cl9-rusty-drill-a-scythe-themed-community-megawad-now-on-idgames/

[median cloud]

Ah

Hadnt heard of it yet

[crystal hill]

Have you played Machete?

It was a neat but forgettable experience for me

[mellow matrix]

I loved Machete. I thought it was a good reimagining of the Scythe series that was also more approachable from a combat perspective. I think I'm ok at DooM but the last ~7 maps of Scythe 2 are right at the edge of my skill (I'm working on them rn actually) and the last stretch of Machete was a step below that, aka perfect for me. There's definitely some meh/filler maps but levels are so short that they strike me more as momentum boosters than they do bores or drags.

[halcyon willow]

To be fair, Scythe 2 gets pretty spicy. Definitely on the harder side of things (but also a good stepping stone if you're trying to get "better" at Doom)

Temple of Gaia rewired my brain the first time I played it

[oak adder]

time to settle this

cacodemon or pain elemental? which one you like in general more?

[gloomy wing]

Cacodemons are less of a pain in the ass and are more fun to look at and fight in general

I do like 64's design for pain elementals though

[hollow tree]

I do think Cacos are the cutest

[median cloud]

Scythe 2 is pretty much the next pack on my todo list, been playing through a lot of classic hard maps. But I consider Scythe 2's last stretch to be about the pinnacle of that

Already go through the hardest maps in pl2, hr, av, and even recently beat Scythe Map 30

But knowing the upcoming stretch of map 23 - 27 of scythe 2 woooh boy

[crystal hill]

I remember on my first and only playthrough of Machete, I managed to beat them all, and I was much worse then than now. The short/easy levels arent great for memorability, but overall I have a positive impression of it in my head

[crystal hill]

I admire the tenacity. I tend to just skip hard levels I'm not enjoying nowadays. I have too many of them to play, lol

[median cloud]

It's really just a personal decision for my to finally beat those tough maps

Might improve my skill in the long run

[crystal hill]

Oh yeah, they for sure will. Will also probably improve your patience

One day I want to try and beat famous maps like the Mucus Flow, but thats low on my list of things to do

[median cloud]

Also playing under stress on long runs

[crystal hill]

Indeed

Thats a good skill for long maps, easy or hard

[whole meteor]

What's the best difficulty for doom 1 ep 3 and 4 for beginners cause it is annihilating my pancreas

[oak adder]

id say the two lowest difficulties or hurt me plenty if youre feeling confident enough

[whole meteor]

ok

[crystal hill]

if you've never played an FPS before, one of the easiest two is good

[median cloud]

If UV is too hard try HMP

[whole meteor]

ok

[median cloud]

Also set always run to on and use mouse + a variation for wasd

[torpid yacht]

Cacodemon is red, dude
Im going with caco

[torpid yacht]

Always in UV