classic-doom

[warm prism]

cone (pc) or cup (console)?

[vast reef]

the entire menu is right there...

[vale gyro]

Dunno why nobody really ever makes maps for it

[warm prism]

well im sorry mr super hd 3d brutal myhouse doom

[vestal flower]

Cone with 2gb of ram and hdd

[vast reef]

i hate every type of mod you just mentioned

[warm prism]

so you like Batman Doom?

[vast reef]

unity has auto-sr50 that bars console users from speedrunning with the rest of the doom speedrunning community and kex idk

[vale gyro]

KEX has compatibility issues that don't allow them to even speedrun with Unity

[vast reef]

awesome!

[vestal flower]

I have no idea what that is

[vale gyro]

so they have their own community

[warm prism]

like again, i see many well made wads like Italo Doom or Sunlust but something silly like Batman or Mario Doom catch my attention more

[vast reef]

awesome!

[vale gyro]

It has a nice charm to it, especially considering it's such an old WAD

[warm prism]

its and old mod where you play as Batman

[vale gyro]

my favorite old WAD was probably DOOMCITY

it just feels nice for whatever reason

[warm prism]

instead of a pistol you usr Batarangs

[vast reef]

fuck man RIP to the batman doom creator :<

[warm prism]

they died?

[vale gyro]

btw, if y'all ever get the chance to, play RUST (not the similarly named Legacy of Rust)

[vast reef]

they died of lung cancer 3 years ago

[warm prism]

damn thats sad

[vast reef]

no im lying idk shit abt the creator

[vale gyro]

though, you can basically only play it on DSDA-Doom, Nyan Doom, Crispy Doom, and GZDoom

[warm prism]

fuck you /j

[vast reef]

batman doom is goated though

[vestal flower]

Oh, I forgot how many mods like that exist

[vale gyro]

it's also a Doom 1 WAD

[vast reef]

i think there is one mod where you play as batman

[warm prism]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[vale gyro]

like, specifically Doom 1, not even Ultimate Doom

the UDoom IWAD will work for it, just that it was built for Doom 1

[warm prism]

i wish Mario Doom was more than just a skin

[vast reef]

there is another universe where coderpenguin named his doom source port cpdoom

that universe is a dark cold place

[warm prism]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-gif-5321230380667608340

[vast reef]

psonic

like psonicflash

[warm prism]

also there is Sonic Doom

that i think its also a Wad

[vast reef]

srb2?

[warm prism]

idk

[vale gyro]

for DSDA and Nyan, it's -complevel 1, Crispy Doom it's -gameversion 1.666, and GZDoom just runs it

[vast reef]

srb2 is stand-alone game with heavily modified doom engine

basically its own source port atp

[warm prism]

i found it in the Mods tab in Kex

[vast reef]

oh we're prob talking abt different things

[vale gyro]

yeah, probably

[vast reef]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Sonic_Robo_Blast_2

fuck me in the ass bro my discord plugins fucked the link up

[vale gyro]

I do recommend this WAD, though

The maps are fun, the riddle to unlock the codex also is fun

the whole presentation of the WAD from the Doomworld post to the codex to the game itself is just really good

[warm prism]

oh i also forgot to mention that mod where you are in an Art gallery where you sip wine and buy art pieces

[vale gyro]

that's not a mod, actually

that's just a whole game made outside the Doom engine

[warm prism]

[vast reef]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841022429769891891/1093718744414568498/IMG_8660.png

MOOM JANRNAL

[frosty ravine]

[viral compass]

JAИЯRNAL

[clever gale]

I just finished Sigil II on UV pistol start 100%

It needs more cyberdemons. I am sad that there were barely any cyberdemons

3 cyberdemons per level is not enough

[urban vortex]

I just now realized that E4M1 in Ultimate Doom has a Nine Inch Nails reference

[twin mortar]

Quake has an even crazier NIN reference

[heavy pollen]

lowkey E4 plot makes no sense

So after E3 he got to Earth and saw his dead bunny then went back to kill everyone?

[clever gale]

I think E4 is like before he came to earth his teleporation got screwed up by hell and send him to one more round of few levels

And then he came and saw Daisy dead

[finite crag]

ngl e4 ruins e3 ending to me

[twin mortar]

E4 ending was a disaster to the entire franchise's storytelling

You did NOT need to give the gorey shock factor ending a further explanation 💔

[rigid wolf]

I need help you guys I'm totally lost on Mt Erebus in doom 1 lol

E3m6 feel like I've been going around in circles aha

[clever gale]

What help ya need?

[rigid wolf]

Ah I did it thanks

Found a hole to jump in

[clever gale]

Secret exit?

[rigid wolf]

I best a robot spider bite I'm on episode 4

[clever gale]

You playing rn?

Have fun on E4M2 xd

[rigid wolf]

Thanks

Yeah I immediately feel episode 4 is a step up in difficulty lol

[clever gale]

1st 2 levels are difficult

And E4M6 I think also

[rigid wolf]

It's a very fun game

Do you think doom 2 is better? @clever gale

[clever gale]

Yes it is

Not like shaming on doom q or anything but in Doom 2 they brought up new stuff, more mechanics, gameplay

You can tell they did their homework

[rigid wolf]

Ah sweet

I plan to play then all on doom 1 + 2 like sigil, final doom and the new rust one

[clever gale]

Oh you will have a wonderful time playing Plutonia

[clever gale]

If you need any kind of help about them feel free to write

[rigid wolf]

Great thanks @clever gale

[clever gale]

If you play Plutonia, tell me your thought on it

Play Doom 2 before going into Plutonia

[rigid wolf]

I definitely will do

[vernal rune]

Make sure your brightness is decent for Sigil or else you may not able to see in the real dark areas.

[vale gyro]

I never found Sigil overbearingly dark

[vernal rune]

I had that issue with Abscission

[rigid wolf]

Resuming my efforts on e4m1 now lol

These shotgunners are brutal

Woah hello hell knight. I'm down to my fist here

[clever gale]

wait till you get to the second level

[rigid wolf]

Omg so many floating meatball demons right off the bat 😂

[clever gale]

hahaaha

[clever gale]

wait till you get to the top

[rigid wolf]

Wow three hell knights lol

I survived tho

Oh they ain't throwing their punches any more

[clever gale]

good job

@rigid wolf what difficulty you playing on?

[rigid wolf]

Just hurt me plenty aha

[clever gale]

aight

[heavy pollen]

Yeah lowkey the whole bunny thing is dumb

[finite crag]

Sigil II is a good game but a bad Sigil game

[vestal flower]

You mean bad doom game?

[hardy basin]

Why? Cuz of git gud gameplay?

[finite crag]

git gud in 2025

damn

[hardy basin]

let's make git gud great again

[finite crag]

nah lets leave that 2020 shit behind

[rustic nacelle]

where did you find this

it would be funny if i bought this and gave it to someone out of spite

[vast reef]

no idea ive had the link to this image for 3 years

[rustic nacelle]

aww

[woven swallow]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/152555-neon-overdrive-mbf21umapinfo-rc6/ possibly the best mapset I’ve played in a long time

Reminds me of the DBP maps

[heavy pollen]

Doom 2 is a blast (playing for the first time)

IMO ultra violence is the best way to play this game

Tricks and Traps wouldn’t be as fun

[clever gale]

Idc about your horoscope sign, tell me, which door from tricks and traps you love

[twin mortar]

The Cyberdemon vs Baron door is class

[hardy basin]

The red door is the bottom of the iceberg, once you complete the map you need to run your ass or you lose everything

[heavy pollen]

Yeah the door with the hundreds of Barons

[heavy pollen]

yeah but thankfully (it’s probably cheating I don’t care) I save… like a couple of times 😭

I didn’t do that before until “against thee wickedly” , was just torture

[clever gale]

Watch now in 4k, Cyberdemon in a bang bang with 20+ barons. Can he take them all?

[radiant cosmos]

Gang i am just getting back to classical and i want to mod it and where do i get the mods from?

[storm tapir]

Doomworld is a good starting point

[robust schooner]

Brutal DOOM is awesome

[nimble shore]

yes

[undone river]

When was the first time you played classic Doom?

[scarlet pagoda]

2019, when they released it on PS4, doom 1 was the first game on the franchise I played, and I enjoyed it a lot

[hardy basin]

on and off for 20 something years already

[scarlet pagoda]

Omg

[hardy basin]

I got the true taste of it for the past two weeks or so

And still counting

[scarlet pagoda]

Have you tried the Doom 2 expantions?

Like, TNT, plutonia

[hardy basin]

I played them all

I plan on finishing a lot of Doom content, even the harder wads

[scarlet pagoda]

Good, im finishing TNT for the third Time on my ps4 rn lolll

Its weird but i like playing every oficial expantion on all dificulties, i start on Im too young to die, and when i finish, i start again but this Time on hey not too rough, and so on..

[hardy basin]

Why not Ultra Violence directly lol

[scarlet pagoda]

Idk, i like experiencing them on all dificulties, cuz idk lol

[vernal rune]

One you need to try is Pagodia

[clever gale]

pistol start onm UV is the best

[hardy basin]

oh man, I gotta really memorize the longer maps

and not from classic doom, but from custom episodes and megawads

and I do have somewhat good memory muscle, but need to train it more

[woven swallow]

What map are you playing?

[hardy basin]

Double Impact E1M3

[crimson quest]

Does anyone know where I could possibly go about finding the Depths of Doom Trilogy for RISC OS

Or, for that matter, any Doom game on RISC OS

[robust schooner]

Is there any good HD texture packs to go with Brutal DOOM?

[sharp wyvern]

oh double impact is great

[hardy basin]

Just in e1m9 and it kicked my ass several times, taking a break...

Definitely a step up in difficulty from Crusades

But I will nail this one eventually, even if it will take me some more days

[wispy radish]

How difficult is DOOM 64? Specifically the "Hurt Me Plenty" Difficulty

[mighty walrus]

Hardly difficult

[wispy radish]

Ok!

[mighty walrus]

you can do it!

[twin mortar]

HMP doesn't exist for 64, what difficulty do you have in mind?

[finite crag]

I own Doom! is the difficulty equivalent of hmp

[mighty walrus]

lolll why did I forget this. Literally just played it an hour ago. I played on watch me die and just block out the rest haha

[wispy radish]

Medium. Just opened up 64 for the first time and I guess that would be "Bring it on!"

[odd crescent]

I think Bring it on's a mixture of not too rough and hurt me plenty, or maybe i've just been playing too much BD64

[hard prawn]

Anybody play on PS? If so do any PS players know any good mods lol

[vale gyro]

If it's on there, Overboard is a really good mapset

it's 6 maps, but it's a fun set

there's also two ending maps and then 6 New Game+ maps

plus a secret demo map

[hard prawn]

i’ll look for it. i’m sure ps players are limited with what mods they can download so i gotta see

[vale gyro]

if you played Going Down or Going Down Turbo, you'd like Overboard

[twin mortar]

Better than the poor Switch users

[vale gyro]

anything that you can download on the Xbox and PC version will be on the PS version

the PC version being the official port, not any source port (like GZDoom)

[hard prawn]

i’m also still playing the game for the first time ever actually. I’m on episode 2 right now.

any pointers for a noob to classic? lol

[vale gyro]

Hunt for secrets is a pretty good way for getting resources back

also, utilize infighting when it's applicable

infighting being enemies fighting eachother

enemies of the same type (besides hitscanners like zombiemen, shotgunners, and chaingunners) can't hurt eachother for the most part

but they can damage other enemies and will start attacking eachother

and you can save resources letting them do the fighting for you if you know what you're doing

also, I suggest playing around with the arsenal and learn how each weapon works in terms of gameplay

at least in custom mapsets, all weapons have a purpose (besides the pistol, I guess)

though, the pistol is useful for shootable switches

also Sigil eyes in, well, Sigil 1 and 2

also, use anything but the rocket launcher for Cyberdemons and Spider Masterminds if you have the option

specifically if you have these weapons

• SSG
• Plasma Rifle
• BFG

[hard prawn]

gotchu

[vale gyro]

the two enemies I mentioned are immune to splash damage

which is most of the damage a rocket launcher has

I'd give you some more tips, but they'd get into kinda spoilerish territory

even more so than what I already told you

but yeah, think of the Classic games as sort of a puzzle/strategy game

make plans, learn from how you died

[radiant cosmos]

Thanks gang

[vale gyro]

Btw, Doomworld has a frontend for the idgames archive, too. That has a ton of WADs from the last 30+ years.

From vanilla all the way up to even GZDoom in some cases.

Though generally it's more for up to MBF21 stuff.

you'll probably find more GZDoom stuff either directly from Doomworld or from other sources.

[robust schooner]

How to kill the Bruiser Brothers?

[storm tapir]

In doom 1? Use the rocket launcher or chaingun

[robust schooner]

Yes but every time I circle strafe I get butchered anyway

[storm tapir]

Are you on ultra-violence or lower? on ultra-violence focus on the specters first and leave barons for last

or immediately just spam the rocket launcher at each baron to death you might kill them faster than other monsters reach you, then chaingun or chainsaw all the specters

[clever gale]

When you go up the lift

DOnt move, make a noise and let them come and kill them wiht the chaingun, most of them

Then move, the doors will open and the barons will come. Deal with the specters 1st. Explode the barrels if they are in your way. Dont get cornered

[wide shale]

Soulsphere on a side door secret before elevator up to them

The secret door is like right by the last step or close by on the right before going up to the elevator

[vernal rune]

Im going to be continuing Alien Vendetta tonight. Map 23 I think

[warm prism]

mark my words, tomorrow i finish Plutonia

but should i play Plutonia 2?

[halcyon willow]

Yes

[woven swallow]

Yes

[crimson quest]

My research has continued, I am now certain that Doom for RISC OS exists, I've read eyewitness accounts and minimum system requirements for the thing, but all of my looking has gotten me no closer to finding the game itself

[crimson quest]

I have finally located it, though unfortunately at a cost of £35

[vale gyro]

Well, seeing Depths Of Doom is only a compilation of stuff you can easily get from Steam, you could just grab those from there and if need be make a port for RISC OS.

[crimson quest]

I've just been looking for all of the officially licensed Doom games, and Doom and Doom+ for RISC OS seemed the most arcane

Technically I still haven't found Doom, since they only offer Doom+ now

[sterile plank]

Guys classic doom is not working on my computer windows 10 on WINRAR i am opening doom then boom it comes out with a WINRAR error

anyway to help?

[woven swallow]

Wha?

Do you open the game on steam? And then it crashes?

[sterile plank]

nah i open it on WINRAR[who even uses WINRAR anymore that is me]

[woven swallow]

Wait what?

How are you trying to play on a sourceport?

Or something

[hardy basin]

Pay the 10$ on steam and stop stealing you dirty pirate

[woven swallow]

Oh I see nvm

[wide shale]

You need source ports to play doom probably most likely

Just use gzdoom or if you want a different one just search up a list of doom source ports

Enjoy

If it’s not allowing you to play doom still through a source port then it’s definitely something else weird lol

If all else fails just spend the modern day equivalent of 2 cents to buy this game

[vernal rune]

Hope you’re ready for the second Archvile maze!

[warm prism]

[wide shale]

It’s insane with the pandemonium monsters mod

Different types of archviles to say oh fuck to 🤣

[wild nimbus]

buy it mf, its on sale

[wide shale]

We live in an annoying economy I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to spend 2 dollars on doom

[modern peak]

who even uses winrar anymore he says as if winrar is some long forgotten ancient technology

[wide shale]

I don’t see why no one wouldn’t use it

It’s free and it works

[twin mortar]

It is ever since we got 7zip

[radiant cosmos]

i need a guide to even understand it tbh i am more of a newgen getting into classics

[radiant cosmos]

well tbh i dont really need it. mostly i used it for extracting zips but on w11 it just does it without problem

[mortal silo]

SNES doom rerelease reviews are coming in and everyone seems rather pleased with Limited Run's release

Time extension dot com has a review fwiw

[vale gyro]

I’ll help ya understand stuff you don’t understand if need be

[warm prism]

this is it, im at The Gateway to Hell

im finally going to finish Plutonia on UV

and some the cosplayers will want me! (i didnt pistol start, if you watched Civvie11's video youll get it)

[vestal flower]

Why would the cosplayers want you?

[warm prism]

just watch the video

[warm prism]

question, supposedly there are 5 Berserks, how do i get them

I DID IT

HOLY SHIT IVE BEATEN PLUTONIA

now some of the Quakecon cosplayers are mine

[lean canyon]

Nice

How was it?

[warm prism]

terrific

like its fun but punishing

emphasis on punishing

just get used to Chaingunners

i hate them

[lean canyon]

I’ve played most of it but I’ll be honest unpopular opinion TNT better

[warm prism]

ehhhh, idk i like the action in Plutonia more but TNT is fine

atleast its better than Master levels

[lean canyon]

Master levels is the worst doom publish 😭

[warm prism]

also, No Rest for the Living, hella underrated

[lean canyon]

that’s the best one made wish it was a whole 32 levels

[warm prism]

have you played Legacy of Rust?

[lean canyon]

Ya played it on UV got by afew levels and then it became hell haven’t came back to it yet in awhile

The first map of it is one of the best first maps I’ve played

[warm prism]

the music is fire

[warm prism]

dude im gonna LOVE this

i have to shotgun revenants man

[clever gale]

Only pistol starts get the girls

[little horizon]

hi

[somber shadow]

Hello

[little horizon]

i play classic doom

[somber shadow]

We all do it

[little horizon]

do you guys like brutal doom

[somber shadow]

Why do you ask?

[hardy basin]

Double Impact E1M8 has kicked my ass so bad it took all my morning's free time before work

[little horizon]

its a brutal mod for doom

classic doom

[vale gyro]

I don't at least

[little horizon]

thats fine

[somber shadow]

WTF dude

[little horizon]

not all people have same opinions

[hardy basin]

Dozens of failed attempts

[little horizon]

how

[somber shadow]

...

[little horizon]

thats an easy level tho

[hardy basin]

try it and see for yourself

[somber shadow]

Why so many failed attempts?

[little horizon]

all u do is kill 2 barons of hell and then go to the next episode

[somber shadow]

It's true

[hardy basin]

Being chased by 4 cybies and almost 100 monsters and switch puzzles are no fun

[somber shadow]

It makes sense

[little horizon]

cyber demons are in e1m8?

[vale gyro]

in Double Impact, yeah

[somber shadow]

Well it makes sense again..

[little horizon]

is double impact a mod

[hardy basin]

yea

[little horizon]

im gonna try the mod rq

[hardy basin]

more like custom episode

[somber shadow]

Keep going and you'll get the ultra instinct

[little horizon]

where did u download the mod from

[hardy basin]

type double impact idgames download on google

[little horizon]

k

[somber shadow]

Well, I'm going to sleep. See you tomorrow. Bye.

[hardy basin]

be warned it has some large levels with nasty traps

[little horizon]

oh

[vale gyro]

It's a Doom 1 WAD, yeah?

[little horizon]

ok i downloaded it

[vale gyro]

Or is it like Scythe where it's just Doom 2 but split up into episodes?

[hardy basin]

and in double impact e1m8 you gotta know the correct switch order or you get softlocked

[latent juniper]

Smh killing them with a shotgun is fun

[hardy basin]

ep 1 replacement

[vale gyro]

Scythe 2 still gives me nightmares. Never finished it.

Got to E6M2 and just gave up.

[little horizon]

how much episodes does it even have

[vale gyro]

Six if you're talking about Scythe 2.

[hardy basin]

scythe 2 doesn't have episodes iirc

[vale gyro]

Yeah, it does.

Just that it lacks an actual episode select menu as it's a Doom 2 WAD.

Though, there are some things that add in the episode selection

Even for ports like Woof

[little horizon]

i played psx doom

its ps1 doom

guys are u still there

[vale gyro]

yeah, we're just not constantly active

[little horizon]

k

[vale gyro]

Still curious why the people who made the PSX port of Doom even decided to add in all the colored lighting and such.

[little horizon]

and the music is just dark and ambient noises

its still a good port

they even had club doom

i played psx doom with retroarch

ima go

bye guys

[random bough]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-guy-doom-the-dark-ages-cute-gif-12753411322836635057

[sharp wyvern]

they wanted to test out the new lighting capabilities of the playstation presumably

[woven swallow]

yesno

[wide shale]

project brutality surpasses by many miles

[twin mortar]

Doesn't matter Uncle Ben, vanilla is better than both of them

[wide shale]

yeah no i get a quad shotgun i dont think so about vanilla

sorry cant hear you over the over violence of a quad shotgun boomin

[warm prism]

dangit

so what do people who do it on nightmare/fast monsters, aka Decino get

[hasty stream]

Brutal doom is broken, may need help.

[sharp wyvern]

so true

[warm prism]

Vanilla Doom is another Source Port or is it just the Bethesda release?

[twin mortar]

If a game is vanilla that just means it's not modded

[vale gyro]

Vanilla Doom as a term is somewhat broad. Here's a video for ya https://youtu.be/zA-TJxkgZuU
In short. No, it's not a source port, and the Bethesda release(s) isn't considered vanilla in some ways.

[warm prism]

i see

[vast reef]

hex shotgun in hell crusher btw

pb is coded like dogass fuckshit

[wide shale]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[smoky bear]

Vanilla doom gang. All my homies love getting clipped thru walls by mancubus projectiles and archviles spawning ghost enemies

Just like God (Romero) intended

[vale gyro]

I've actually rarely encountered both.

I've only had the All Ghosts Effect hit me once

and just normal ghost enemies maybe once

[smoky bear]

Never encountered ghost enemies in an actual run (save for that one hell revealed level that intentionally spawns them. Fuck hell revealed), but mancubus fireballs clipping happens fairly often

[vale gyro]

I know the clipping fireballs are common

I guess I rarely notice them

[clever gale]

Girls and demon girls

[smoky bear]

I actually have learned to love the jank of vanilla doom though. Idk something about running underneath cacodemons feels cursed

[woven venture]

Limited Run Games remaster version Doom 1 classic from SNES and pre order ?

[finite crag]

holy shit it is a thing

damn they improved the snes version greatly

[slate gyro]

Hey guys, does Doom 64 count as "Classic Doom"?

[vestal flower]

Yes

I think there was a separate channel for doom 64 at one point tho

[slate gyro]

Damn. I guess it was redundant since it fits nicely here, but still sad

[gray dove]

Another doom 64 player.

[slate gyro]

What do you think about Doom 64? I'm planning on playing it once I beat Legacy of Rust and I want to know what others think (no spoilers plz)

[slate gyro]

Soon to be

[vestal flower]

It's very good, honestly my best doom experience since 2016

[gray dove]

Doom 64 was cool. In the second level theres a hard crushing part but other than that the first 2 are fine[i only played the first 2 levels]

[slate gyro]

Alright thanks! I've heard the community is split on this game. A review I got recommend called it "the weird/odd one" or something like that

[vestal flower]

They just say that cuz it's different than the others

[slate gyro]

Yeah, more horror and atmospheric. I honestly like it. Seen a bit of gameplay, listened to the intro and title theme... It's a cool change. I kinda dislike how hyped you're as a character in the more recent games, and like it better when the demons and hell are considered a threat to Doomguy,

The executions the demons perform on you upon dying from 2016 are an example. I still love Eternal to bits (have yet to play Dark Ages), but there demons are pretty much considered meat you can beat up badly, and not monsters that will kill and maybe eat you if you're not careful

[bleak bloom]

I recently started playing modded classic Doom and Doom 64 after playing Dark Ages, and I prefer Doom 64. They were having a lot of fun with new tech in the lighting and scripting with their level design, and I love the updated sprites for the classic enemies. I remember renting this game when it came out on the N64 and I know I didn’t recognize those elements as being that cool when I was a kid, but they really stand out now in direct comparison to Legacy of Rust or even Sigil.

[slate gyro]

What kind of mods? Like Brutal Doom 64? (only one I know)

[high depot]

I got DOOM 64 for Christmas along with my N64 back when the game came out. I spent my day playing it, but all the while, as a kid who hated change more than the average person, questioning so many decisions about the game. The atmosphere was definitely darker though, and I did (still do) have quite the appreciation for that as the original games used to actually scare the heck out of me at times (I was 5 when they released, go easy on me haha) so seeing it amped up on the N64 was a treat! I even enjoyed some of the redesigns, but in my headcanon they were simply variations of the originals rather than redesigns, so it was okay. The only one I ever took particular issue with honestly was the Pain Elemental. Just felt really odd to look at, and imagining where the Lost Souls were exactly coming from was just.... not easy.

Other than that I just didn't like the "music" more than anything. I didn't hate it, don't get me wrong, but it felt like its slow pacing kept my own pace very slow even on subsequent playthroughs when I knew what was coming next.

Solid game overall though! Looking forward to my next playthrough probably in a couple months depending on what speed real life allows me to continue my Classic stuff I'm doing.

[slate gyro]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I find them really interesting. You made me curious... What was the demon that scared you the most as a kid? I imagine it was the Cyberdemon or Arch-Vile (I'm sure they would have freaked me out if I had played being younger), but maybe you'll surprise me

[high depot]

Pinkies and Cacos, but there's a dream-related reason for Cacos other than that hissing sound they make that made me jump often back then haha

With the Pinkies, it was the eyes. Something hard to describe related to some possibly paranormal event I witnessed as a child. Even DOOM Guy with Degreelessness Mode/Invulnerability would have its effect on me back then (I'm fine now just to be clear).

Cacos I am convinced the hiss is what set the subconscious trigger in place, but they started behaving strangely in dreams. For a little context, I would dream regularly as a kid that I was sitting at the computer and playing DOOM or Heretic or something of that nature. In these dreams I wasn't exactly aware that it was a dream, and things worlds were a little combined in a way. I was definitely hitting keys to play the game, but yet I was also inside the game at the same time in a way that felt super convincing. I was bound to the rules of the game in every sense, including its physics, settings, other rules, and even the Pause button being pressed...

So back to dream space, I'm playing DOOM and clipping out of the walls to get away for a minute because I'm going to die if I don't (this just made sense in the map design because reasons, I was 6). I noticed a few random demons out of bounds, including some Cacos. I spun around to make sure I knew what was around me, and I pressed Pause. Everything froze as expected with the hall of mirrors doing its thing, but I noticed that one of the Cacos in the distance was still moving towards me. I tried to unpause the game, but the key wouldn't respond, and the damn thing was just coming steadily for me. It didn't even bother firing, it knew that I couldn't do anything about this situation no matter what, so it floated ever closer until it was within range to swallow me whole, and it did exactly that before heating up inside and firing plasma balls at something else out there while I uhh... sat and stewed about things.

[slate gyro]

Damn! I don't know how you remember such an old dream, but props to you, I'm literally unable to remember any of mine. You got me on the edge of my seat while I was reading and I just dunno what to say, you got me speechless! Wasn't expecting pinkies, but I can definitely see why one would be scared of Cacos. You even predicted their eating animation from 2016 multiplayer

[high depot]

Oh I've got stories and dreams in extreme detail going all the way back to when I was 1½. I wrote a novel back in the day that was meant to be a placeholder of sorts between the first and second novels. It was mostly just based on dreams lol. I always have incredibly detailed dreams and I tend to keep a record of noteworthy ones as well, so it's something easy for me to recall too.

DOOM is the source of MANY of those dreams lol

Classic in particular

[wide shale]

i think its wild this is a thing

and snes doom as well

being the choice that they really tinker with and rerelease it with bonus stuff

the controller and cartridge is the coolest part about it other then its impressive to sit and improve something on the snes

we need more things like this

[storm tapir]

No space for dreams when all you have left is enter the gungeon nightmares

[bleak bloom]

I haven't played Doom 64 modded yet, come to think of it. I've only played the Switch version and the original console.

...and down that rabbit hole I go! 🕳️

[wide shale]

doom 64 tc is the way to go

its doom 64 with more levels and cut enemies

gun animations and so on

there isnt much actuall doom 64 mods i think

[shell pecan]

doom 64 is peak

[trim swift]

Ooh yeah Doom 64 is my fav from the ogs, loved the atmosphere and character designs, the one bad thing from Doom 64 is how vicious Lost Souls are, you can imagine what its like to fight Pain elemental

[shell pecan]

i bought it a week ago to try it for the first time since im trying to finish all the ogs first and its an masterpiece

[hardy basin]

I finally realised why I kept failing on Double Impact E1M8 Launch Bay, it was because the switch puzzle was bugged on the version of the wad I was using, so I switched it with the fixed unity add-on and fingers crossed it will work when I try again this evening 🤞

[trim swift]

Youll hav a great time

[fluid sky]

My doom infinite mod is not working

[woven swallow]

oh what seems to be the problem?

does it load in? if so just tweak your settings in gzdoom

they tell you what you are suppose to do

[shell pecan]

i know like doom is just good for anyone new old just started old and know the full lore

[dark cargo]

Clarify

[gentle compass]

It’s just not working

[woven swallow]

How isn’t working? Can you elaborate further than that? Does it just crash?

[vale gyro]

Not the same person, Kenny. Xenaero was just being sarcastic more than likely.

[vale gyro]

Assuming it's crashing, you have to use an older version of GZDoom starting from v4.8.2 to v4.10.0 for the mod to work.

[woven swallow]

Oh I see

[fluid sky]

https://youtu.be/2EfvHUs_EgY?si=ZxVwYZL7h4nh0ErR

[woven venture]

No problem with Limited Run Games remaster port Doom + Doom II from SNES to PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S, Switch and PC (via GOG & Steam)

But standalone version from nightdive studios enhanced classic Doom & Doom II

[wide shale]

Night dive just does stuff that dosent make pc versions of the id games really worth playing on

It’s definitely more centered around a console experience

[vale gyro]

Yeah, you'd rather use a source port on PC

for both Quake and Doom

[wide shale]

Yes cause it’s just like we already have it and just years of stuff so

It’s worth it for the achievement hunting on steam though

[vale gyro]

yeah, seeing the achievements can mostly be cheesed

[wide shale]

It was cool that we got legacy of rust from them

For the most part I enjoyed legacy till the end but where it turns into a slaughter wad and not having the ammo or atleast I didn’t see the ammo like I feel you should in thoose moments

Like I just said screw it and used like the ammo cheat a thousand times cause at that point I was just annoyed

I do also wonder how to change the health value in nightmare mode back to 100 in quake

Cause id like to play the new expansions with just normal og nightmare settings

[woven venture]

Nightdive enhanced classic Doom + Doom II from Windows 95 version ?

[wide shale]

Bill gates doom

Wow these video games sure are getting real these days

[steel crescent]

We need Elon Musk in Doom

[wide shale]

lol

[finite crag]

Icon of Shit

Elon Musk is the reverse midas touch

[steel crescent]

bro urdak is very hard

i hate maykr drones

[finite crag]

I can't get over how sad it is that the richest man alive tries to appeal to youth through lying and deceiving people regarding games 💀

[wide shale]

Doom eternal is only hard cause doom guy barely has the speed to dodge anything lol

[steel crescent]

tips pls

[finite crag]

Headshot the makyr drone

[wide shale]

You have to sit there and face mash dash and abuse meathook tricks to dodge anything

[finite crag]

Maykr drones feel like fodder to me, just a simple headshot and bam

[steel crescent]

yeah i know but i cant do this. Because demons are every where

[wide shale]

Yeah the maykrs are never a issue I feel

[steel crescent]

i have bad aim

[finite crag]

Aim assist tho (unless you're not on console, tho shouldn't PC version have that too?)

[wide shale]

Then play on lower difficulty no shame honestly

[finite crag]

But you'll get there

[wide shale]

Doom eternal is the only doom Where it’s like how bs can we be with everything

[steel crescent]

I can finish this game in hurt me plenty

pain elementals is very ugly

[finite crag]

DOOM 64 pain elementals: Allow us to introduce ourselves

[wide shale]

Like the lack of ammo is disgusting like the fact you have to abuse a chainsaw to get ammo is stupid and wait till you have stupid crystals just to buff ammo

Like idk I could go on here lol

[finite crag]

I was never bothered by the low ammo ammounts.

I have done a no-upgrades run btw. And even then ammo was not a problem. Of course, chainsaw abuse, but I like the chainsaw

It's fine if you don't like it tho

[wide shale]

I am cause it’s doom and it’s about having mad amounts of ammo and slaughtering lol

[steel crescent]

dread knights and arch viles more annoying than marauders

[finite crag]

thats very true

Im making my own doom game (again, 4th time's the charm?) and there's one level where you are just given infinite ammo and an assault rifle and get told to slaughter demonic clowns

[wide shale]

Yes I love that

[woven venture]

Classic Doom + Doom II and Final Doom from PS1 (PSX), GBA and Saturn version remaster port by Digital Eclipse or Limited Run Games ?

[finite crag]

limited run

[wide shale]

Limited running

[finite crag]

I have not played any of the console ports tho outside of DOOM 1 + 2 on PS5

[wide shale]

There is a Saturn rom where everything in the game is fixed frame rate and all

I can’t remember where I saw the video but it was nice

Dude was running it on real hardware to

[finite crag]

Damn

John Carmack apparently felt really bad about speaking out against an initial Saturn build that did run really well at 60 fps

Because I've seen the original saturn release's footage and dear god it looks so bad

[wide shale]

Yeah Saturn got short handed alot and it’s annoying

Saturn realistically was a awesome machine but just had a sad demise

[finite crag]

Sad I never owned one. I only ever owned one Sega console (megadrive) and I sold it for pennies later on

[wide shale]

I was lucky and had a ps1 and a Saturn together

[finite crag]

I considered getting PS1 doom even tho I don't have a PS1 (I do have a proper PS2 which I used to beat Rayman 2 last year)

PS1 Rayman 2 is not liked much but I enjoyed it greatly. In either case PS1 Final Doom also had me curious

[wide shale]

I was a very happy gamer child and just use emulator honestly

You could possibly be able to force doom ps1 to stay consistent 60 fps even or whatever frame it tied to

That’s what I like about emulator is if some game felt bleh on how it ran back then I can just push the emulator to make it run better

I also just don’t blame anyone these days not wanting to go shop hunting for the consoles and stuff

Especially in this economy while it is a thing of beauty sitting there owning all the relics of gaming history

[wide shale]

I enjoyed rayman 2 as well

There is also doom tc which try’s to recreate doom ps1 on to just gzdoom

And id say it’s probably worth cause his doom 64 tc definitely is

[glass bluff]

Yo i got doom + doom 2 in switch and its pretty cool

Next month ill get doom 64

[manic current]

I'm getting doom 64 and doom 3 once I get through my backlog of games (which actually isn't too large)

[heavy pollen]

Nobody talks about how atrocious "The Pit" is

Probably the only level in Doom 2 that makes me actively fucking hate it

[dense kestrel]

retro

[hardy hamlet]

Not a fan either lol

[warm jewel]

Do I need to complete every level in doom 2 for the completion trophy?

[vale gyro]

I think you can cheese it by doing just map30

[warm jewel]

Ty!

[dense kestrel]

🧀

[finite crag]

Not a fan myself either

Worst imo are the chasm and barrels o fun

[heavy pollen]

Oh great more bad levels

1-8 were perfect though imo

Especially Tricks and traps

[storm tapir]

Barrels of fun isn't bad, one of the more fun maps on pistol start

Snoozefest on continuous though

[finite crag]

I can at least tell that the devs tried to make something funny and interesting with this map

[storm tapir]

And somehow it manages to be the hardest map Sandy made for d2

[warm prism]

wouldve been fine if they stuck with the gimmick instead of just the first and last room

[finite crag]

I think Chasm is slightly worse

And Icon of Sin is not a great boss (Ignore the fact that when I make a classic-style doom game I'd also make a stationary gimmick boss)

Even down to the reverse talk

[heavy pollen]

So far all the map designs are amazing

Very much a step up from doom 1

[lethal sedge]

The Pit is one of my favorite classic levels in Doom so I like it very much

Minus the oversight of the Pain Elementals not spitting out Lost Souls due to the 20 Lost Soul limit :D

[woven swallow]

21*

[elder wigeon]

I just got Doom 64 and the only way to play this game is to use the map and move around because you literally can’t see a single thing

[vestal flower]

Turn up the brightness

[elder wigeon]

Thats what they all say

Doesn’t make much of a difference

[vestal flower]

Alr it can't be that dark, when I play I see perfectly fine

[elder wigeon]

It genuinely is pitch black at times, I can’t even see the weapon I’m holding

[vestal flower]

Well, try increasing the environment lighting

[elder wigeon]

…?

[vestal flower]

There's an option for extra lighting for environments

[elder wigeon]

I don’t see that anywhere in options…

[vestal flower]

Are you playing the remaster or og?

[elder wigeon]

Og

[vestal flower]

Oh, then no it's not in the og

[elder wigeon]

It sucks I can’t even get past the second level because of the visibility

[vale gyro]

I personally had zero issues with visibility in Doom 64

guess I gotta play the OG on real hardware at some point...

[vestal flower]

Me neither, but that might be just because I like dark places in fps games

[vale gyro]

tbf I didn't play Doom 64 for too long

Got to like map10 at most

[wide shale]

I’m suprised not anyone talks about how annoying kinda refueling base is

Cause for me it just is

And the second city level

Where when playing it vanilla style is just kinda hassle

I’m mixed on it it’s kinda fun just running around the middle trying to kill everything

But then it’s like just when you think it’s over you get death sniped by something from a small window detail you missed

[wide shale]

I’ve went through doom 64 atleast 5 times some of the later levels are alotta fun

[vale gyro]

Doom 64 both just kinda annoyed me level-wise and also my anxiety-fueled ass couldn't handle the OST (I'm a wuss lool)

[finite crag]

It is really annoying

[lean canyon]

Map 2 is so bad

I’d put doom64 map 2 as possibly the worst official doom map

[wide shale]

I enjoy the terrorformer

[wide shale]

It forreal is

[sharp wyvern]

worst official doom map definitely is not a title any of doom 64 deserves lol

not when Master Levels for Doom II and TNT: Evilution exist

[lean canyon]

Atleast top 5 for me

[wide shale]

im just gonna say it

DOOM - DOOM 64 - FINAL - DOOM II

[lean canyon]

Map 02 blind was so hard

[wide shale]

which map 2

[sharp wyvern]

is this > > > or < < <

[wide shale]

there is no switch a roos

after goin back into final doom i just enjoyed it more then doom 2

[shell pecan]

yo guys i need help what do i do in the mother of all demons fight in doom 64 if i didn't collect the keys

[wide shale]

its gonna be rough

restart level if you have to

and essentially try to perfect run through the demons till mother spawns for easier results

and save alot

i always play with fast monsters so mother of demons is actually misery lmao

[sharp wyvern]

I like Plutonia more than 2 at least

[sharp wyvern]

run at mother demon and BFG the shit out of them

[heavy pollen]

I heard doom 64 has some stupid puzzle I’m not looking forward to that

[wide shale]

ehh its not that bad

theres like a level or two a first play thats like yeah that was annoying

if anything just google it if it gets that bad

[raven dune]

Petition for the changing the official name for archvile jumps to uppies.

[wide shale]

everytime doom guy gets hurtbox by it he says uppie

[clever gale]

I want archville uppies

[raven dune]

True

Same </3

[raven dune]

Yes why is that not a mod yet (at least i dont think it is)

[wide shale]

i do not know yet gonna have to google it

[raven dune]

But like we should make that the new official name its just funny

[clever gale]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-intro-doom-eternal-demon-gif-16987418

[wide shale]

UP UP

[clever gale]

In master levels on the elevetar to hell map, uppies are required by the archville to enter the secret level Dream

[heavy pollen]

I lied about The Pit

"Refueling Station" is the worst level of any Doom game ever.

No like i think this is impossible on ultraviolence

How did this level make it past playtesting

[vestal flower]

Look at what I have to go through in thy flesh consumed, and I'm only on hurt me plenty

[vale gyro]

If you mean Refueling Base, I personally don't have much an issue with it

[heavy pollen]

😭

[heavy pollen]

Bro

I actuallly think E4 is the easiest oneever

E4M2 is the only hard one

[vestal flower]

I can beat episode 1 uv no problem

[vale gyro]

E4M2's the easy level

[heavy pollen]

Oh and against thee wickedly

[vestal flower]

I was stuck on that level for 2 years, I only just got to e4m6

[vale gyro]

E4M6 is the level that personally kicks my fucking ass

[heavy pollen]

Ok i was about to call you a rage baiter

[vale gyro]

also, replayed this

[heavy pollen]

AND

[vale gyro]

All went well until my keyboard fucking disconnected at the cyberdemon

[heavy pollen]

great theres a cyberdemon too

yoiure 100% it right

[vestal flower]

I'm just hoping e4m7 will be somewhat easy

[vale gyro]

it's easy to avoid if you yoink the invuln secret

... which my dumbass forgot to grab

but yeah, you otherwise can't just ignore the cyberdemon

your best bet is to grab the BFG and also the cells in the hitscan room

[vestal flower]

I just made him hit himself with his own rockets and spam the plasma gun

[vale gyro]

the rockets do nothing against him just and fyi

cybers as well as masterminds are both immune to splash damage

[vestal flower]

Ok that's kinda fair tbh

[woven swallow]

Aren't they only just immune to the splash damage? A direct hit from a rocket damages them, no?

[vale gyro]

direct hits do damage them, but if you were just hugging a single cyber it'd do nothing

[finite crag]

I tried to do UV saveless.

I got through E4M1 but I quit at E4M2 kek

[onyx shore]

Finished Back to Saturn episode 1 and 2 ~ loved the environmental design...when will the third episode release? Someone said they showed a preview build back in 203.

[wide shale]

ok now your just overthinking how to play doom but yes refueling station actually is just plain annoying

like i almost borderline dislike it

[clever gale]

Its beautiful map, and its easy ngl. I have passed it many times on Ultra-Violence pistol start

[wide shale]

it is not beautiful

it is far from that

[clever gale]

I really like the secrets

my favourtite room is with the hitscanners

[wide shale]

that segment is fun lol

[clever gale]

I like the imp and arachnotron room

ngl I like all rooms there

[wide shale]

man whats another annoying doom 2 map

gotcha is kinda annoying

[clever gale]

I did a saveless UV on Doom 1 and Doom 2 in 1 play, no pause

[clever gale]

a lil bit, but not hat much

[wide shale]

first time play through wise the third level is annoying for sure lol

[clever gale]

The most annoying map on DOOM II for me is the city map with the big arrow on the floor

[wide shale]

yeah i said that one was annoying as well

[clever gale]

that map makes me wanna turn off the game

[wide shale]

its mainly the pathing you gotta do i feel

gotta go do this fall off then go do this fall off

then go to this pit

[clever gale]

YESSSSS

But the city map that John Romero made witht he track Into Sandy City is sooo good

[wide shale]

the 100 spawwning demons level

[clever gale]

which one was that?

[wide shale]

the one i thought you was talking about but i could be hilariously wrong

there is one level though you grab a key or something on a pillar with a biosuit and then bam open field of 100 demons spawn in

but you have the bfg at this point i think

fun level though

and the exit is bring down elevators

ive only played doom 2 a handfull of times

i play 1 the most

theres just something about the first doom game

the way the levels are i just love it

and the hell levels feeling like some kinda dungeon

[heavy pollen]

I guess everyone has a different experience

[wide shale]

classic doom only gets easier honestly man once you get the flow next thing you know youll always wanna play ultra violence with fast monsters

[clever gale]

I still cant remember

[clever gale]

btw I played doom 1 and doom 2 back on the floppy disk

still have them I think

Also heretic

[wide shale]

nice i love old pc game boxes

[clever gale]

Btw I had the floppy disk where you can play the mod that UK made of doom so for its police force can practice shooting and hostage situations

You use just the pistol and you had 1 shot. Like if you get shot once you are dead, and also them. You have to navigate to sharp corners and check if there is someone there

[wide shale]

doom army simulator confirmed

[finite crag]

Nice

And yeah floppy discs are cool

Tho I was born in the early 2000s I have played games on floppy disc, nice to have folks with old stuff etc

[heavy pollen]

Yeah I’m already getting the hang of it

UV feels like the only way to play Doom

[shell pecan]

thank you really good advice that i used imagine that im playing this on easy what kind of hell is watch me die gonna be like

so after i finished the game what do i do else get all the achivements?

[wide shale]

That or try to beat harder difficulties man

[wide shale]

Play the doom 64 tc mod for gzdoom it comes with community episodes and you can play the extra Bethesda exclusive episode on it if you got a pc

Also tells alil backstory intro for each episode

[shell pecan]

who or what is alil

[shell pecan]

i do have an pc how do i play those

[vale gyro]

Probably meant “a little”

[shell pecan]

ohhh yeah sorry am not that good at english

[wide shale]

Just look up doom64 tc it is a simple install that just requires the doom64 wad I think there is instructions it will tell you what all you have to do

It is a very straight forward install

[vale gyro]

Honestly Doom 64 CE might be better than TC

TC's less faithful and also much older

[wide shale]

Yeah that’s the one my bad

It’s early in the morning here I get em mixed up

[vale gyro]

Yeah. TC is from 2003 iirc and is made for Doomsday lol.

[wide shale]

Yeah no not that one 😭 🤣 ☠️

I meant doom 64 ce

[vale gyro]

@shell pecan ping to give you updated info

[vale gyro]

Though, fun fact

it is actually the predecessor to Doom 64 EX

[wide shale]

Yeah I enjoyed ex it was nice for the time

https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-ce/downloads/doom-64-ce-3111-full-download
@shell pecan here man this is what I was talking about it’s one of the best ways to experience doom 64 honestly

[woven swallow]

hello

[slate gyro]

Yo guys, do you think the Kex engine is a good engine? A comment somewhere called it "the technology we didn't need or asked for" and I can't see why. The only Kex game I've played is Doom + Doom 2, and I like it a lot better than the Unity ports

So far I've had no crashes, which is something that same guy complained about

[vale gyro]

KEX itself is fine, but I quite dislike Doom + Doom 2

[slate gyro]

Please explain. Go as far as you want, I'll read through it

[vale gyro]

from a console standpoint it's alright, from a PC standpoint it's not really worth it

the crashing complaint that guy had is pretty accurate, at least a while back (might've been fixed now)

it'd crash from just opening the automap, even

had it crash once from leaving a multiplayer match and also when I opened the settings menu

also the mouse sensitivity being tied to the frame rate is quite annoying

especially if you prefer playing at the normal 35 FPS

instead of an interpolated uncapped

also, the mod menu isn't the best imo, especially because you can't override what IWAD the mod uses

the port itself also just lacks features I personally want

noted they were usually not present in Unity as well

so that's not really a KEX-specific thing

a nitpicky thing here but I also don't exactly like how KEX feels to play or how the rendering looks

it just feels off compared to vanilla

[slate gyro]

I see. I guess I'm way too much of a casual player to realize what the game needs. I haven't tried any mods or fanmade wads, and my only point of comparison is the Unity ports, as I haven't played any other version of the games

[vale gyro]

Fair enough.

[wide shale]

It’s fine from console standpoint but from pc point a view it just feels a waste of space

It’s like we already have other source ports and just other stuff

It kinda makes the the whole doom 1 and 2 update unnecessary

Like they could’ve gave us the legacy of rust wad download link or something and it would be like alright sick for pc players lol

I honestly can say the same for quake pc as well

But it’s nice that they keep doom available on everything it should always be a obtainable game

So can definitely appreciate nightdive keeping quake and doom relevant into the modern console age

[white beacon]

Hey guys i'm a trophy hunter and want the trophy for every doom game but for the first games i need to complete the game in the highest difficulty in coop Mode so if someone want to go through hell with me Just let me know

[wide shale]

Hell more like heaven

[slate gyro]

Yeah, game preservation isn't given enough importance by companies. One of my favorite games of all time, Rayman Origins, isn't on modern consoles, and I would have to buy a PS3 in order to play it (or a PC, but that's too complicated for me)

[twin mortar]

It's on Xboxes via BC, and the developers knew that this issue would come, so Rayman Legends features a remake of two thirds of Origins. These two are solutions but they're pretty bad ones, I'd like a native port personally

[slate gyro]

I don't like the remade levels as they have been made easier than the originals. There's also the missing levels and the different aesthetic, which I don't like as much as Origins'. I still pray for a port for PS5, which I'd buy on the spot

There's also the lack of thick fairies in Legends, but I can live without those

[wide shale]

im sorry i cant

i saw and i was like i could not imagine anyone living without this

[heavy pollen]

Downtown overhated imo

It’s a cool concept

[severe birch]

Does anybody know how to do this, or if there's a better way to do this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/lilidy/gzdoom_separate_save_dir_per_wad/

[wide shale]

Make copy’s of saves and store em in a folder I guess

Wonder how many people run into that issue

[woven swallow]

hello

kenny here

[stark wedge]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1148590/DOOM_64/

Steam

DOOM 64

Originally released on Nintendo 64 in 1997, DOOM 64 is an action first-person shooter and a direct sequel to the events of DOOM II. In celebration of DOOM’s 25th anniversary, an enhanced version of DOOM 64 was released on PC and consoles in 2020 and can now be played here.Story
Years have passed since you stopped Hell’s invasion of Earth.…

Price

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[wide shale]

Doom 64

[manic current]

Doom 64

[wide shale]

So much doom

[lucid sphinx]

DOOM 64

[wide shale]

M00D 46

[tropic walrus]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/bd64-veteran-of-hell

[stark wedge]

https://www.doomworld.com/search/

[oblique plaza]

hell nah. sound glitches. GZDoom is the only way

[vale gyro]

There's more than just GZDoom for source ports, you know

[woven swallow]

Screw Gzdoom and embrace dsda doom

[severe birch]

@vale gyro I see you're online, do you have a solution to this problem? Da Toasty Mane's solution sucked.

[vale gyro]

If you have a launcher, I guess you can have a preset for each mod and find some parameter that changes the save path

I'll look for a parameter rq. GZ should have one.

yeah, -savedir

[severe birch]

When you say launcher, do you mean the GZDoom application itself, or some custom thing? Also that reddit post also mentions using the -savedir command for a batch file, but I don't know anything about how to use or create batch files.

[vale gyro]

Custom thing like ZDL. You could use batch files as well, but might be a tad messier.

You can make a batch file by creating a new text file in your GZDoom folder and changing the file extension to .cmd (or .bat but traditionally on Windows it's .cmd)

[severe birch]

ok what's a ZDL and how does one make one?

[vale gyro]

the contents of the batch file would be something like gzdoom -file foo.wad -savedir /saves/foo

[vale gyro]

ZDL is a launcher application. You can download it here.

huh, why the hell are github embeds not working?

Anyways, it's a quite simple setup just to get it at least launching GZDoom, which is probably what you want to do first.

sorry for the out of place writing here, I'm just taking this from my own tutorial for convivence's sake

Now, you'll need to open up ZDL.
From there, click on "General Settings" on the top of ZDL.
You'll see two boxes titled "Source ports" and "IWADs".
Click the + button that's below the "Source ports" box. Find and select gzdoom.exe.
Now, click the + button that's below the "IWADs" box. Select every .WAD file you copied over.

You can now go back to "Launch config".
Now, add your mod by clicking the + button under the "External files" box and selecting the mod file.
Now, select your source port as GZDoom, and your IWAD as whatever game the mod required. Generally, this is Doom II: Hell On Earth.
You can now hit "Launch".

the instruction talking about the IWADs box is referring to your IWADs (DOOM.WAD, DOOM2.WAD, TNT.WAD, & PLUTONIA.WAD)

[bronze rune]

Hello

[severe birch]

Ok problem, when I go to launch cofig and try to select a source port, it doesn't say the version it just lists GZDoom twice. Which is an issue since Diamond Dragon+Auger Zenith needs version 4.14.1, while voxel doom needs version 4.14.2 .

[bronze rune]

What was your last conversation about?

[vale gyro]

Go back into General Settings and double click on each GZDoom instance

you can rename it from there

[severe birch]

will that rename it in the file or just in ZDL? Could that cause issues if so?

[vale gyro]

just in ZDL and it won't cause issues

[severe birch]

ok what does skill default mean?

[vale gyro]

You can ignore that. It's just there if you use the Map dropdown.

But to actually answer your question, it's to choose the skill level. Default probably referring to UV.

But I personally would only use it if you wanted to warp to a specific level on a specific difficulty

Otherwise, you can just safely ignore it even existing.

[severe birch]

so do I use the -savedir in the box labeled "extra command line arguments"? and if so how do I type the full command?

[vale gyro]

Yeah, you put it there. You just do -savedir /path/to/save_folder

replacing the /path/to/save_folder with the actual path to the folder you wish for the saves to go into

then you would add in the mod you want, select the IWAD that mod needs as well as the source port

and then you'd hit Ctrl+S to save the preset

you can hit Ctrl+O to load a preset

[severe birch]

I do that by having it in the external files box right?

[vale gyro]

yes

the mod, that is

or mods if you're loading multiple at once

[severe birch]

Ok just to see if I'm doing this right:
I replace /path/to/save_folder with F:\GZDoom\Diamond Dragon+Auger Zenith saves
right?

[vale gyro]

put quotes around the path and you're good

so -savedir "F:\GZDoom\Diamond Dragon+Auger Zenith saves"

quotes are needed for when a path has spaces in it

[severe birch]

Ok then do I hit save .zdl or save .ini ?

[vale gyro]

.ZDL

[severe birch]

https://imgur.com/a/myiaPxE
Ok so this is what it looks like, and when I hit launch it just brings up the normal GZDoom menu, then when I hit play game on that screen it just brings up regular unmodded doom 2.

[vale gyro]

you need to select the IWAD in ZDL itself

[severe birch]

https://imgur.com/a/jW8Ttbc
ok that still doesn't fit it

[vale gyro]

weird

will it work w/o the -savedir thing?

[severe birch]

it won't load the saves either

[vale gyro]

Yeah, I got no clue what the hell's going on

[severe birch]

does zdl work with old versions of GZDoom? Because that's what this mod requires

[vale gyro]

Yeah, it should work with any source port infact.

yeah, I got no clue how it could be failing

[stark wedge]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1148590/DOOM_64/

Steam

DOOM 64

Originally released on Nintendo 64 in 1997, DOOM 64 is an action first-person shooter and a direct sequel to the events of DOOM II. In celebration of DOOM’s 25th anniversary, an enhanced version of DOOM 64 was released on PC and consoles in 2020 and can now be played here.Story
Years have passed since you stopped Hell’s invasion of Earth.…

Price

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Recommendations

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[vale gyro]

@severe birch I replicated your setup and still didn't have issues

[severe birch]

could it be the use an external hard drive?

although the zdl for voxel doom seems to work

[vale gyro]

doubt it but you could try ig

[finite crag]

guys should i 100% doom 64

[vale gyro]

yeah

though for your own sanity I suggest maybe not including items in that total

[finite crag]

is it hard

[vale gyro]

I've never even fully completed Doom 64 so I'm not sure

[finite crag]

nah im talking about 100% achievement, on steam

[vale gyro]

ah

[finite crag]

i owned the game on steam for like 3 yrs now and never launched it lmao 💀

it sounds easy tho, 10 achievement only

[vale gyro]

at the same time some of those secrets are locked behind secret levels iirc

though, I'm not exactly sure where the Unmaker and the demon keys are

[finite crag]

eh, we'll see. i might do it tomorrow, or might decide to play 100% some other games

my steam library has so many unplayed games that have just been rotting in there

[vale gyro]

same

[reef frost]

im bored

anyone up to some coop?

[glass bough]

im down if you still are @reef frost

[reef frost]

im playing tf2 now...

[glass bough]

oh lol

well i might be around for a few more hours

lmk

[reef frost]

alright

if i get off i'll tell ya, im playing tf2 with a friend rn

[glass bough]

alr

[reef frost]

guitarman?

u still up to some coop?

Started a COOP match for TNT, the code is DTVC if anyone wants to join

Difficulty is Hurt Me Plenty

[reef frost]

...the chat is pretty dead, aint it...

[mighty walrus]

seems so

[hard prawn]

omg i forgot classic doom has co op

that sounds so fun

I’d play but I’m on vacation till next week

[vestal flower]

It is, so is doom 3's

[hard prawn]

I gotta check that out lol I’ve never had a fellow slayer in my game before

[vestal flower]

I do play alot of multiplayer, I just do it when I'm at bk

[glass bough]

Yo I ended up falling asleep sorry

[cerulean holly]

https://youtu.be/EAQFDM5-zLU?si=X3fXuxJbEX1dcT9n

[heavy pollen]

Ok industrial zone best doom map

cool parkour puzzles i love it

what Downtown couldve been

[slate gyro]

I'm halfway through Soul Silo, from Legacy of Rust and I think it's pretty cool too

[silk smelt]

Currently playing Sigil for the first time, its very gimmicky but the gimmicks are usually really cool

map 8 can eat my ass tho

[slate gyro]

Which one was that?

[silk smelt]

final level of Sigil I, whole map is pitch black and the last sequence is a tight corridor with a mastermind, cyberdemon, and a bunch of hell knights and cacos

Still a fun stage but that last bit took like 40 attemps lmao

[sage skiff]

i've been playing with this!

i've beaten E1M1 in a way I believe to be optimal (i.e. minimises the number of inputs) but whenever I try to play E1M2 it stops gif-ing after right about when I get the red key

here was my solution to E1M1:
||dwwwwwddweddwwwawdwdwwddwdwwwwewawwddedwwei||

[slate gyro]

The Cyberdemon fight annoyed me beyond belief. He just wouldn't die no matter how many times I shot him with my BFG

[vale gyro]

so you wanna treat the BFG like a shotgun, get right into an enemy's face

yes, that's even possible with the tight hallway E5M8 has

if you can do it right, you can two or three shot a cyberdemon

[slate gyro]

But, won't he counterattack with a burst of missiles and instantly kill me?

I tend to do that with the Spider Mastermind, as I knew it was more effective when up close, but I thought it would be impossible to pull off with a Cyberdemon, so I tried to snipe him. Had to shoot him like 10 times

[storm tapir]

You can kill cyberdemons with 2 BFG shots but yeah if you miss up the timing you'll either waste ammo or die.

But I don't think the cyberdemon will tank that many BFG shots unless you are circle strafing him with the BFG

or hiding behind walls before the second burst hits him after the main projectile explodes

[vale gyro]

you basically just dodge the missiles and then go in for the strike

he only fires 3 at a time, so you could just go left to right to dodge while getting a bit closer

though, it takes practice to get the timing down

[silk smelt]

This is basically how its done, along with some lucky infighting with the HKs and tomatoes

the real problem is getting past the mastermind with minimal cover

[reef frost]

yo

who up for some coop?

[halcyon willow]

The 2-Shot Shuffle

[cerulean holly]

Awesome

[vernal rune]

I’m still trying to get through Map 26 Dark Dome in Alien Vendetta. Crazy right off the bat!

[obsidian sedge]

Decided to replay Legacy of Rust and do the secret levels, and holy shit does the remix of “Opening to Hell” go hard. Level’s worth the effort for the music alone. Didn’t realize what I was missing out on.

[final moss]

Can we get e1 m10 added in the ultimate doom?

[umbral shale]

See I told you, and it gets better( and harder)

[modern peak]

i havent actually really played any non official wads

i heard sunlusts extremely difficult, but how difficult is it on uv

[halcyon willow]

Very difficult

Play something like scythe 2 or speed of doom first

[finite crag]

Scythe 1 was interesting

First two episodes pretty easy on UV

Then came episode 3 💀

The first two episodes really lulled me into a false sense of security

[woven swallow]

Hella difficult

[true urchin]

i fucking hate lost souls in 64

why are they like this

it feels like every single encounter the game's like "yeah but what if we threw in a dozen lost souls"\

i'm playing doom 64 ce and there's a setting that reintroduces enemies like revenants and arch viles

and i cant really fault the game itself for these revenant placements obviously

but hoooooly shit i understand why revenants were cut because this fucking sucks

[humble relic]

Playing it on the calculator

Wonder if its playable on a birth control test

[modern peak]

they made them more aggressive

[true urchin]

yeah and it sucks ass

[modern peak]

d64 made very questionable decisions when it came to lost souls

they are more aggressive, and pain elementals spawn 2 of them now

[true urchin]

yeah i've noticed

[modern peak]

and they explode if you try to block them

[true urchin]

supposedly they have less health but uh

doesn't help much

at least i know its not just me

[modern peak]

thing is d64 is already slower than the previous games so having the lost souls now be faster is extremely obnoxious

[true urchin]

mhm

im playing d64 ce tho

there's a setting that re-adds revenants into the game

and yeah i get it you made a custom sprite and everything that's really cool dude

but holy shit these rev placements are awful

[modern peak]

i can imagine

[true urchin]

revenants are kinda always annoying as hell but usually you either have room to strafe around or cover to duck behind

in d64? sometimes if you're lucky you get a corner

[true urchin]

im starting to think there's a reason this enemy was cut or something

[modern peak]

i still wouldve preferred revenants over whatever the fuck they made the pain elemental into

[true urchin]

yeah...

at least it looks cool

in a freaky fucked up kinda way

honestly i like what they were going for with the d64 enemy designs

[modern peak]

i feel like they accidentally swapped the cacodemon and pain elemental sprites and went with it

[true urchin]

its an interesting take on the old enemy designs

(mostly)

[modern peak]

d64 feels like a mixture of quake and doom for the most part

which makes sense considering when it came out

[halcyon willow]

It do get spicy late in the piece. Scythe 2 has a more consistent difficulty curve (and gets much harder)

[modern peak]

tbh i just wanna play something thats good but also hard

[vale gyro]

Not exactly hard but Overboard

It’s a balanced difficulty… unless you’re playing the New Game + maps

[copper estuary]

Anybody know How well the android ports perform ?

[solid tundra]

I have a question about the Doom 1+2 collection, I’ll find that in multiple cases my save has suddenly changed to Hurt Me Plenty in the console. The console has a command called startskill which shows you the difficulty you’re playing on, loading quick saves or saves from mods/other wads in the collection will display HMP when you type that command in the console. My question: is this a glitch, not being read right or is it actually lowering the difficulty when I do these things?

This is something that’s kind of made me not want to play the new port out of fear my difficulty will change throughout a playthrough of any given wad

If anyone could explain if I’m misunderstanding something about how this works please let me know because I’d love to be wrong

[true urchin]

i wish i could find more maps that are close to vanilla doom difficulty (maybe slightly harder)

but not putting revenants and chaingunners around every fucking corner like ive seen some maps do

there's a wad called back to saturn x

really cool mapset

insanely intricate maps, genuinely beautiful

legitimately unfun to play because of how much it overuses revenants

they don't need to be in every single fucking encounter my dudes

[tough parrot]

Would yall befriend cacodemon?

[storm tapir]

they are already best friends with my ssg

[tough parrot]

i love them. for some reason they spit at me in eternal. so i play soccer with their eyeballs

[vague fable]

dual eyed cacodemon

[stuck echo]

What's the best classic doom expansion if I'm not a difficulty freak?

[hardy basin]

TNT Evilution

[vestal flower]

No rest for the living

[hearty gorge]

Truueee

[modern peak]

tnt jumpscare

[tired marlin]

I beat both DOOM and DOOM 2 :3

[brisk magnet]

nice

im like most of the way through no rest for the living in doom 2 i just hate the last level

101 imps and a cyberdemon

[tired marlin]

The boss is pretty random and hard

Pre-last level is so damn hard, you get thousands of annoying enemies in yo face, like that brown flying douchebag that shoots you with flying souls

[brisk magnet]

pain elemental

god fuck pain elementals

[tired marlin]

I watched one Youtuber who called him "Bag of shit". Perfect name for him

[brisk magnet]

looks like one too

[tired marlin]

I'm going to beat all doom games and addons

I'm going chronologically

[woven swallow]

No rest for the living

[finite crag]

I call Lost Souls Ass-Souls, especially in DOOM 64

[tired marlin]

You took it from that red brony guy

[finite crag]

who?

I dunno who you're referring to

[tired marlin]

Bigmacdavis

[finite crag]

I genuinely don't remember where I first saw it

I'm not familiar with Bigmacdavis' videos. Chances are that others have also used Ass-souls. Some people think alike, many people would feel annoyed by Lost souls (especially in D64)

[tired marlin]

I guess

[finite crag]

But yeah they succ in Doom 64

Didn't stop me from beating the game twice and enjoying it

It was a bit unfortunate seeing D64 thread wiped but I'm also happy to see it being part of classicdoom here

[brisk magnet]

i dont get this

no rest for the living was kicking my ass on hurt me plenty

[vale gyro]

I can usually ignore either ignore them or just outright cheese them

They got arms for a reason…

Basically, hug them. They can’t spawn lost souls if you do.

And unless the WAD makes lost souls explode on death, pain elementals literally can’t do anything if you’re hugging them

Though usually if they’re made to explode, it’s probably a Boom or MBF WAD, which have no lost soul limit

Which then pain elementals become an actual pain if ignored

[slate gyro]

Bethesda, make the midi pack available in Doom + Doom 2 and my soul is yours!

[raven dune]

gang any tips for making megawads? im making one and i wanna keep my maps interesting any tips?

its suposed to kinda give that clasic doom feel btw