#classic-doom

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solid tundra
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Two things, one if you didn't know why reply and two that doesn't make sense for a playthrough I'm halfway through

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Wdym like a launch option on steam?

vale gyro
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you could do it through the launch options if you wished

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though idk if the new port has a cheat code for skill level

finite crag
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Probably not

solid tundra
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Nah I don't think so

finite crag
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What difficulty do you want it on?

solid tundra
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UV

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So that'd be 4 right

vale gyro
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I think

solid tundra
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Hell yeah thank you

vale gyro
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why are you using the new port over a community source port on PC anyways?

finite crag
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What difficulty is it currently?

solid tundra
vale gyro
solid tundra
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I'm the kind of lameass that appreciates that sorry lmao

vale gyro
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I personally just cheese them

vale gyro
solid tundra
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I saw someone do that and it pissed me off lol, they got every campaign achievement in one day and I'm like what's the point

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You not only cheated the game but yourself copypasta

finite crag
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I mean they coded it that way

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Not cheese necessarily

solid tundra
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They coded it so you can not only do that but also literally use the cheat codes to beat the levels and get them too

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They did it so fucky

finite crag
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I thought there were no cheats?

vale gyro
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and second I don't like using the new launcher

solid tundra
vale gyro
finite crag
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Oh

vale gyro
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there are no cheats

solid tundra
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Ya it's stupid they should just have both

finite crag
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I have done all the campaigns before the new port so I found it fair

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Just the Unity one cause I'm a console player

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I mean if you beat it legit one time you can cheese every other time

solid tundra
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I've only beaten one and two multiple times, I never touched the extra campaigns although I do have them installed on gzdoom with wadsmoosh

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I was thinking that it'd be a little meaningful to have it done the first time on this port and then unlock the achievements for it

finite crag
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Try Plutonia with some friends

solid tundra
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Hell yeah, I actually started buying my friends this port so we could do new shit since it's crossplat

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I can't tell how anyone feels about Doom honestly

finite crag
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Have fun, the first level is easy with friends

little oar
solid tundra
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FR

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Like it took me fucking so many times of starting some of the games to actually let myself sink into it

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But then I beat Doom 1 with my best bud through some coop branch and I think I fell in love from there, then I bought a big bundle with all of them and started playing out of order

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I feel like I love all the games except 3

little oar
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Aww, why not 3

solid tundra
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Maybe it's because I haven't given it a fair chance but I really didn't like the enemy interactions in the beginning of the game and it's somewhat slower pace

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I was planning to actually try 100%ing bfg before Doom and 2 got achievements but luckily they do now

wanton cave
solid tundra
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Since BFG had steam achievements for them while the unity port didn't

little oar
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If you're willing to, doom 3 does pick up later on when you get some more weapons

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It does have a very slow start though yeah

solid tundra
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Yeah I'd like to give it another shot, I think the art direction and visuals are like insanely well put together and cool

little oar
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A very interesting slow start though, since that's also when you begin seeing less and less survivors so it quickly settles in that you are pretty much on your own

solid tundra
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Am I fucked up for killing some of them lmao

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I just had an itchy trigger finger

little oar
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A big thing that helps fall in love with doom 3, listen to the details around you

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Notice how busy the radio communications is and how it slowly gets less and less active to the point you never hear from it again
Doom 3 is amazing with its atmosphere if you let yourself sink into it

little oar
solid tundra
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I know I definitely killed the guy who dropped that hard ass line about hell

little oar
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Me and my friend played it coop and once we learned the flashlight oneshots npcs and gibs them that was all we did near the start

solid tundra
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"I should know, I created hells gates" or something to that extent

solid tundra
little oar
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"The devil is real. I know, because I built his cage"

solid tundra
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Yeaaaaaah

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Literally next frame I blasted his skull in

little oar
solid tundra
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Hell yeah

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I actually would really like to try that, have some aliens type experience

little oar
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It works pretty well most of the time

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You need to port forward for it (or use Hamachi, which is what I did and it also worked)

solid tundra
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Me and my bro have been using hamachi since 2017

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We started with Postal 2 and moved on to anything that supports lan

little oar
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Then it should work perfectly for yall

solid tundra
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My bro was just asking me to start something new so I'll see how he feels about it but it's actually exciting, coop Doom (any one of them) just seems fuckin awesome for being action hero marines

little oar
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I believe the mod is just called "Doom 3 Coop" if he's down for it

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There's a few of them, so if one doesn't work there's always plan bs

solid tundra
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Hell yeah

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We're gonna go apeshit fr

dawn valley
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I'm very grateful that the first thing you see upon booting up the new port is a spinning Cacodemon.

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10/10.

azure nimbus
dawn valley
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0/10.

azure nimbus
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I will say that Doom1 + Doom2 loads much faster than unity, but we're still spending positive time in menus instead of the baddaboom promptly following a baddabing

finite crag
maiden sandal
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Hi, can you please help me. I saw that the updated versions of Doom and Doom 2 were released on August 8th. All owners of the original versions were given updated versions for free. I bought both versions on Xbox a long time ago, but I am not getting updated versions. I even wrote to Microsoft support, but they said that they had no idea that they should contact Bethesda support, but they were silent. If any of you have come across something like this, can you help, please? I really want to play the updated versions of Doom😅

azure nimbus
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do you have them on xbox1

finite summit
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Finished all the achievements for doom

maiden sandal
little oar
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Backwards compatible? Did you buy the 360 ports?

maiden sandal
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A long time ago, yes

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I take it they give updated versions for them? I haven't seen any other versions.

little oar
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Ahh that's why
The new update is for the 2019 releases, not the old 360 ports of them

maiden sandal
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One sec

little oar
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Just in case there's confusion, the new update is a completely separate game on console. Check the store page or your library, you may just have to download it again

maiden sandal
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I know, but they only offer to buy them, they are not on the console (

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I have these versions

https://www.xbox.com/ru-RU/games/store/doom-ii/BRJXN52GVNLG/0001

https://www.xbox.com/ru-RU/games/store/doom/BW92N4DPF5K6/0001

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maiden sandal
little oar
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They delisted the 2019 versions once this new update went up, so I can't grab a link for them anymore

little oar
maiden sandal
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It's a pity, I probably have to spend 10 dollars, but I was already happy. Thanks a lot

little oar
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👍

maiden sandal
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https://www.xbox.com/ru-RU/games/store/doom-1993/9PLZPHBNHTMF/0010

https://www.xbox.com/ru-RU/games/store/doom-ii-classic/9PLT62LRF9V7/0010

i found

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Thanks again)

little oar
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Yep, those look like the 2019 releases. that's the ones you need in order to get the new update for free

lapis wolf
azure nimbus
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maybe it's just a skill thing and I'm pressing "start game" better

lapis wolf
twin mortar
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Unity freezes for me sometimes, but both aren't as slow as on X360. Loading times there were instant, but the melting screen effect was soooo slow

lapis wolf
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By that logic, I'm more skilled than you at pressing start on the Unity port

lapis wolf
azure nimbus
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it's luck when you're faster and skill when i press it better

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but whatever keep coping 🧠

lapis wolf
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Oh I see. You're just trolling

zenith berry
little oar
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Kind of? You still need the 2019 versions, but for pc this new port is just an update for Doom 1

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They did take the 2019 versions off the store, except doom 1 which just had its store page + game updated to be the new port

twin mortar
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On MS Store it's also seperate, not sure about the rest

zenith berry
twin mortar
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Yeah, it's a bundle of basically everything that classifies as 'Classic DOOM'

little oar
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^

twin mortar
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Points at own message, classic Lego smugcaco

little oar
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Doom 1 + 2, master levels, Final Doom, sigil 1, and the new expansion are all 1 collection

little oar
twin mortar
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It's basically a modern DOOM Classic Complete for PS3

zenith berry
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There's the Doom Classic Complete bundle on Steam that got retooled as Doom Classic Bundle and with Doom 64 added, does this change mean it now only comes with the new Doom + Doom II re-release plus Doom 64?

little oar
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And doom 3, but yes

twin mortar
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DOOM Classic Bundle is everything before DOOM 2016

azure nimbus
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no doom rpg or rpg2. idk if psx counts as a port or a new game. it threads the needles. I'd say "it counts as one of those early gaming era 'ports' to hardware so much weaker that a lot of the game was changed or removed"

twin mortar
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Well yeah, but it's everything on Steam before DOOM 2016, I don't think they want to bother with a DOOM RPG rerelease

little oar
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Probably not worth the effort either. I can't imagine many people would care about some old phone rpg for a fps series

vale gyro
twin mortar
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I can see PSX possibly getting a port to the mod browser, but that's a big maybe

little oar
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Though a psx rerelease would be really nice, even as just a big update to doom 1 + 2 somehow

twin mortar
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But it's still unofficial

twin mortar
vale gyro
wanton cave
twin mortar
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Funny, I was out here arguing why there WON'T be one

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Dunno where you got that from but I never wanted a D64 rerelease, I kept talking about wanting a D3 one before QuakeCon

wanton cave
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...
Shit
I must have got you confused with someone else then

twin mortar
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Probably lol, but no worries

wanton cave
twin mortar
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Maybe (btw, I'm fine with being pinged when replied to)

azure nimbus
twin mortar
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Has there even been a single patch? Update? Every issue I had with it is still there

reef gyro
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anyone here know how i can make brutal doom work with other WADs then doom 1 and 2? i'm using the current version of GZdoom

little oar
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Other wads as in different maps, or other wads like other TC mods

reef gyro
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other WADs as in other doom mods compiled as wads, where i would then have the brutal doom arsenal and sound effects and enemies

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or is that tailored towards the OG games?

little oar
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Not sure if that'd work, if they add weapons or different mechanics then it'd conflict and you'll have to pick one or the other

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Brutal works with just the basic set of weaponry/OG game stuff yeah

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There is another similar mod called project brutality, maybe that one would show some better results if you're trying to frankenstein stuff together

reef gyro
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sadge. but i guess, fair. Love Brutal Doom on Doom 1, especially with how the classic shotgun is reworked. I could play the game with that shotgun alone

little oar
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That's the tricky thing with mods, most of the time they aren't gonna work together if any part of them conflicts revenantshrug

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Sorry to say

azure nimbus
twin mortar
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I was talking about D+D2

azure nimbus
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it's not been abandoned. it's been a week

digital merlin
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im strugling to get the last secret on the first level can someone help me pls

vale gyro
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also, what secrets have you already gotten

digital merlin
digital merlin
vale gyro
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the last secret is where you get the shotgun

digital merlin
vale gyro
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y'know, behind that cliff with the imp on it?

twin mortar
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You have to run behind the torch before the green toxin room, then sprint to the room behind the imp thing

vale gyro
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basically, go to where you'd enter the room from

vale gyro
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I can record a run of it if you'd wish

digital merlin
vale gyro
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just gotta trim the video real quick and I'll send it over

digital merlin
vale gyro
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audio's gonna be scuffed for some reason just an fyi

digital merlin
vale gyro
digital merlin
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@vale gyro you wanna play doom?

vale gyro
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I don't exactly feel like bashing my head in with the new port at the moment, sorry

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the movement in it is incredibly off

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if you ever got the chance to play Doom on PC using something like Crispy Doom you'll get what I mean

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as the new port (and Unity) have auto SR50, meaning when you strafe run you always run at top speed

digital merlin
vale gyro
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been playing on the DOS version and also community-made source ports meant to stick with vanilla movement

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so auto SR50 throws me off a tad

lunar rune
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Cause in ZDoom to do SR50 I use multiple keys but I'm not sure how it works in the new port

vale gyro
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meaning you only need W and A or W and D

lunar rune
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Wow seriously??

vale gyro
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none of that input stuff you need with the mouse

lunar rune
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No wonder the movement feels so off

vale gyro
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yeah

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the Unity port had the same thing

lunar rune
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Always wondered why it always felt so slippery

vale gyro
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well, I think the friction is maybe a tad off, too

lapis wolf
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Oh nice. There's an update

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And the new update sucks....keeps making me look at the most popular mods page, every time I stop looking at a mod

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But I noticed over half the mods are deleted.

There's only 71 pages of mods now instead of 165 pages

twin mortar
wanton hemlock
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Where do I put custom WADs from outside the Steam workshop?

twin mortar
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There is no Steam Workshop for this game

vale gyro
twin mortar
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You have to upload it to Bethesda's mods page

wanton hemlock
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Ah. Well, what's the (Linux) path?

vale gyro
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you're playing it on Linux?

wanton hemlock
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Yee, runs flawlessly under Proton

vale gyro
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I'm just saying, it'd be better if you download something like Woof from your package manager

finite crag
wanton hemlock
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Yea, M0no

vale gyro
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as it's a pain in the ass to run external WADs without uploading them

finite crag
# wanton hemlock Yea, M0no

You can put them in the /rerelease folder of the Ultimate Doom folder (when you inspect the local files.) Put them in that folder by the .exe, and then you can use the -file command to load your WAD. I like to make shortcuts on Steam for them.

vale gyro
vale gyro
finite crag
vale gyro
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I personally just use my own launcher

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I used to use the command line but I slowly gave up

finite crag
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Personally I'm sticking with the Nightdive port. I really love it for the most part.

vale gyro
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became too much of a pain

finite crag
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Just fix the audio and glitch problems, iron out the mod uploader, and it's basically perfect to me.

vale gyro
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for me they need to switch back the movement

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otherwise it's just a better looking GZDoom with less modding features

little oar
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Ik there's already ways to uncensor the games, wondering if people used that knowledge to mess with stuff like audio yet

finite crag
wanton hemlock
little oar
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That's better than nothing. Is there a steam guide for that?

vale gyro
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does GZDoom even have Heretic support?

wanton hemlock
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Apparently, not like I could get it working

vale gyro
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you need to load Heretic as an IWAD with -iwad

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not as a PWAD with -file

lapis wolf
twin mortar
wanton cave
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Any big differences between each of the console versions of the new ports?

vale gyro
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also, if GZDoom does not have support for Heretic, try out Crispy Heretic

vale gyro
wanton hemlock
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So, gzdoom -iwad ~/Downloads/heretic.wad?

twin mortar
vale gyro
finite crag
# little oar That's better than nothing. Is there a steam guide for that?

No, but there's a m0nologue guide.
Go into the /rerelease folder. Go to Common.kpf. Open it with a .zip app, like 7zip. Go to the GUS folder, then the "instruments" folder. Delete all the files in there, and replace them with the files in this .zip I'm sending you:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1252719879187071187/1276253769746616412/roland_for_gus.zip?ex=66c8db72&is=66c789f2&hm=e1c86c382d5076192c18f0277535c770f6b63de0becfdb242134be3ab2bd026a&
This will make the game sound a lot better when you select the "midi synth" option in the options menu.

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It's not perfect, but it's like 90% like the soundfont you'll want - it's not better than the "Original" option for IWADs, but it's fantastic for PWADs since they have no .ogg files bundled with them. If you don't slap this on, it'll sound like shit.

twin mortar
vale gyro
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or well, at least in Debian/Ubuntu based ones

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I don't know about Arch-based distros personally

wanton cave
vale gyro
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you could check the AUR

vale gyro
wanton cave
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Gotcha

twin mortar
wanton cave
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Might have to double dip then lol

little oar
vale gyro
finite crag
little oar
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I'm terrible with sound stuff so sorry if this is a stupid question, but what differs between "original" and the midi synth

finite crag
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Keep in mind you're gonna have to do this again every time they update the game, because they'll be replacing the Common.kpf file.

little oar
finite crag
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Nowadays though in most source ports the soundfonts they offer will be closer to how the songs were supposed to sound. This one can't because they can't just license the Roland soundfont for a paid product - they can only have recordings of the music.

little oar
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Ah alr. So midi synth is the way to go for most of it, since they aren't just relying on recordings

finite crag
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For the IWADs you'll want "Original." Those are the most faithful versions of the songs. But this literally isn't available on PWADs, that's what the "Fallback" option is for - it'll fall back to that when you play a PWAD.

wanton hemlock
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Or, just use idkfa lmao

twin mortar
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I hate when someone wants help and people go "use this instead!" Shut up. We want help with something else.

vale gyro
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Second of all, MIDIs sound good as hell

wanton hemlock
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sry

twin mortar
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Reminds me of someone recently saying that if you want KBM support for Eternal on console you can just buy a PC because "if you can afford a console you can afford a PC". That made me so fuckin' pissed

finite crag
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So the ideal setting is to select "Original" (or "Remix") for the IWADs, and have "MIDI Synth" for the fallback. It'll play the normal stuff for the IWADs, then play that new Roland GUS patch I have you for mods.

vale gyro
void hemlock
little oar
finite crag
# wanton hemlock Or, just use idkfa lmao

The IDKFA option is really good and I've loved using it recently, but it's only available for Doom 1-2 - that leaves deciding what to do for the Final Doom stuff, or Legacy of Rust.

little oar
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Would love to have all of them with the midis/originals but the volume mixing is really weird for anything besides the IDKFA osts for some reason

vale gyro
worn hamlet
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Since like 0.26

twin mortar
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I tried DSDA once, too confusing

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I really only use Crispy Heretic for mouselook; I have everything else set as vanilla as possible

worn hamlet
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Use Woof

vale gyro
vale gyro
worn hamlet
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I have woof fluidsynth way too quiet

finite crag
worn hamlet
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DSDA only has heretic

vale gyro
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I had the same issues with Fluidsynth being too quiet on both Woof and Nugget Doom

worn hamlet
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Rather would use fluidsynth tbh

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I like using different soundfonts

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Windows midi synth doesn't accept different soundfonts iirc

wanton hemlock
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...do I have Fluid oob?

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I use Arch btw

vale gyro
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yeah, the default Windows one does not

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VMS does, however

worn hamlet
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So it should be

vale gyro
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it has even more flexibility than Fluidsynth does as you can layer soundfonts on top of eachother

worn hamlet
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VMS?

vale gyro
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Virtual Midi Synth

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it's not the default Windows one btw

worn hamlet
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Oh
I dunno if that can be used with Woof

vale gyro
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Source: I use Woof/Nugget Doom as my main source port

little oar
worn hamlet
vale gyro
worn hamlet
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i.e. can it be integrated

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Boo
That's using with, not using in

finite crag
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The only weird sound problems I've had with the Roland GUS patch is that the Plutonia MIDI pack song Death Mask has some weird static in it. It's fine otherwise, and that's a mod anyway, so whatever.

vale gyro
little oar
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There's a mod for the fanmade final doom osts?

worn hamlet
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It's weird because Fluidsynth in woof 11.2 works just fne

vale gyro
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well, you could maybe go in and fix it yourself

worn hamlet
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Maybe, trying to determine what is wrong tbh

vale gyro
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I got no clue where in the code Woof handles Fluidsynth

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so I personally got no clue where to fix it

worn hamlet
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I believe it can be edited utilizing a json tbh

vale gyro
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I doubt it

lapis wolf
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Something I will say is menus seem a lot snappier and less laggy now with the new update

finite crag
# little oar There's a mod for the fanmade final doom osts?

Plutonia, when it came out, just reused Doom 1-2's OSTs. James Paddock led a project that gave it a completely new soundtrack. It fucking rocks and nowadays I refuse to play Plutonia without it on.
My favorite song from it: https://youtu.be/NBODRXgwzFA?list=PLxg39PZVcnV1FM1TpNS1GSZ1nStligayw

YouTube
Cammy
Trigger - Plutonia MIDI Pack OST - MAP02 [Custom Doom Music]

MIDI Title - Trigger
Composer - Mr. Freeze and Brendan "Bradley" Bucket
Slot - MAP02: Well of Souls
Soundtrack - Plutonia MIDI Pack

▶ Play video
vale gyro
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as Fluidsynth is a library compared to VMS which is an application

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so any audio issues with Fluidsynth either come from the application or from the library's own faults

little oar
vale gyro
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so if it's not a Woof issue, it's a Fluidsynth issue

twin mortar
vale gyro
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which would be even more annoying to fix

lapis wolf
wanton hemlock
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Will any MBF-complevel WAD work on Kex?

vale gyro
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hell, even MBF21

lapis wolf
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Also DBP aren't as peak as I thought.

Half of them are amazing, the other half of DBP are kinda middling

vale gyro
lapis wolf
wanton hemlock
twin mortar
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Yup, that's correct, though honestly that doesn't really show it off the best

wanton hemlock
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It's the best the wiki has :/

twin mortar
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Here's my video of it ^

lapis wolf
# vale gyro what is DBP?

Doomer Board Projects or something like that.

Auger Zenith (a peak WAD) is one of them.

Many of them are some of the best WADs I have ever played.

But there's quite a bit of middling projects or atleast maps (maybe not overall projects) from the DBP as well

twin mortar
vale gyro
vale gyro
finite crag
wanton hemlock
twin mortar
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That's my profile picture

wanton hemlock
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Ah, thus, the corner tomato

twin mortar
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D64 also does that I think

vale gyro
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yeah, it does even on PC

wanton hemlock
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...would TMSS work on kex?

vale gyro
lapis wolf
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Wait people generally see Memento Mori 2 as one of the GOATs?

I thought it was pretty good, but not like amazing

wanton hemlock
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Too Many Super Shotguns

vale gyro
#

yeah, no

#

that requires GZDoom

wanton hemlock
#

ah

vale gyro
#

same with Brutal Doom, Project Brutality, MyHouse.wad, among others

wanton hemlock
#

What about the Shield Saw backport?

vale gyro
#

probably not

wanton hemlock
#

wait no it has an alt fire

finite crag
#

GzDoom is barely even a Doom source port at this point - it's advanced enough that "an entirely different engine that happens to run Doom" is more apt now.

twin mortar
#

The settings menu is the stuff of nightmares, man, I tell ya

wanton hemlock
#

Still amazing that it was ported seemingly 1:1 tho

vale gyro
hardy hamlet
#

Anyone know what the DOOM + DOOM II and DOOM Eternal patches are for on console? I just turned on my PS5 and they popped up.

finite crag
#

If something needs GzDoom to run, it's using features and commands that are simply impossible in a port like this - one that is focused on demo compatibility, which GzDoom absolutely is not.

twin mortar
wanton hemlock
#

Read the patch notes, bond

hardy hamlet
finite crag
lapis wolf
hardy hamlet
#

@finite crag I just thought it was weird that Eternal got one too LOL i just woke up to play and fired up my PS5 and saw them

finite crag
#

Oh I'm not sure about Eternal then.

hexed escarp
hardy hamlet
lapis wolf
twin mortar
vale gyro
lapis wolf
hardy hamlet
hexed escarp
wanton hemlock
#

Ngl, I wish X let you repeat repost

hardy hamlet
#

@lapis wolf I'm still having issues getting the official upload of Valiant to run LOL when i save and try to load it says i don't have the proper mod when i do LOL

lapis wolf
hexed escarp
#

i should probably play valiant

hardy hamlet
twin mortar
#

Read that as Valorant, nearly got a heart attack

lapis wolf
#

Valiant is good. not one of my top favorites, but it's cool

lapis wolf
hardy hamlet
#

IDK if they're still there but they had a massive amount of the DBP wads when i looked this morning

finite crag
#

I don't really use the mod uploader now; I subscribe to the ones that I know work, then move them elsewhere so I can set them up as shortcuts.

wanton hemlock
twin mortar
lapis wolf
wanton hemlock
#

Also, it's got Simpsons Doom

wanton hemlock
lapis wolf
#

There were some hilarious Christmas wads that I played recently

twin mortar
wanton hemlock
vale gyro
twin mortar
#

Oh yeah it's less pointy

vale gyro
#

that

#

and also it's more in the center than it should

#

wait no, I take that back

hardy hamlet
#

Are the Scythe wads fun?

lapis wolf
hardy hamlet
#

I might look into them

#

@lapis wolf I've been yearning for a new game, Star Wars: Outlaws is coming soon and i may get it but i've really been running low on new games to try

twin mortar
#

Wolfenstein: The New Order

hardy hamlet
#

Thank god for DOOM, the constant modding and the fact the modding is now on console give me some new stuff.

hardy hamlet
twin mortar
#

I see

hardy hamlet
#

I'm trying out Tetanus

twin mortar
#

Fun fact; when D+D2 came out, Tetanus wasn't released there at first, even though it was in the Unity ports

hardy hamlet
wanton hemlock
#

God, the new weaps on NRFTL're fun

#

But I've noticed a problem: If you do id(k)fa, you get 2 of the new weapons

#

Not both of them, 2 copies of 'em

vale gyro
wanton hemlock
#

100% pure Derponium

#

Still an odd bug

twin mortar
#

Been an issue in the Unity port too

wanton hemlock
#

I never experienced it on Unity

vale gyro
#

I would've never noticed it as I don't use the official ports as they tend to suck

wanton hemlock
#

Heard online (from Decino & the Doom Wiki) that it's just using Unity for input?

vale gyro
#

it used Unity as a wrapper for the whole engine

#

not just input

wanton hemlock
#

But isn't it still mostly unchanged?

vale gyro
#

yeah

#

but still

cloud talon
#

The censorship of the Wolfenstein levels in the BFG edition of doom 2 is kinda lazy

twin mortar
#

Not on 360 luckily

cloud talon
#

They also changed the level names for some reason and replaced the music with other doom 2 tracks

azure nimbus
#

how's it lazy

#

isn't it more work to change the thing

twin mortar
#

It's like people saying unalive

cloud talon
cloud talon
twin mortar
#

Didn't you say they changed the name though

cloud talon
#

Yeah

twin mortar
#

If they kept the name Wolfenstein people would google it

#

Censorship knows no bounds

cloud talon
#

But like, I don't think any other port does that

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And even so, those two levels are in a completely different artstyle to every other level in the game

twin mortar
#

I'm not sure, X360 is censorship free

twin mortar
azure nimbus
# twin mortar If they kept the name Wolfenstein people would google it

Censorship of this type was just about always in an effort to satisfy a former German law so the game could be sold internationally without changes. This law is no longer in effect. It makes sense to change the name if it's no longer wolf themed or at the very least to give a diff name to a diff thing. Wolfenstein being a series in Germany, even when the law was in effect suggests that no, they were not censoring the name itself

fallow canopy
#

Hey fellow classic doomers

#

Uh, apparently D+D2 just updated

azure nimbus
#

Honestly the one exception I can think of where a studio "covered up" nazi iconography other than "I want my game to be able to be sold in Germany without making a new version" is e1m4 because Romero's linedefs looked like a swastika because he was (less obviously) referencing Wolfenstein. Understandably, a rando symbol is less clearly a reference than a whole Wolfenstein level. A vet asked him to change it. I imagine Romero was like "dang not everyone played wolfenstein lmao my a off"

fallow canopy
twin mortar
#

Minor stuff

twin mortar
fallow canopy
solid tundra
#

I was going through the mods on my family members xbox and literally just downloading all of the crossover ones

lapis wolf
fallow canopy
#

How to piss off any Doomer:

Turn on Texture Filtering.

remote cedar
#

There is not a single game where texture filtering looks good

#

I'm sorry it's just the truth

vale gyro
twin mortar
fallow canopy
lapis wolf
wanton hemlock
#

Has anyone backported the BFG10k to classic Doom?

vale gyro
wanton hemlock
#

Ye

vale gyro
#

I don't know actually.

#

I'd say probably.

remote cedar
wanton hemlock
#

Gotta say, the team had the right mind recycling the 9K's projectile sprites.

thick token
wanton hemlock
twin mortar
remote cedar
#

idk bro im in bed

thick token
#

maybe

#

wait wb the wolfenstein levels in doom 2

#

do those count?

remote cedar
thick token
#

whatever, its just that germanpeter made me think everything has german censoring

twin mortar
#

Even the NIN logo is there

thick token
#

neat

wanton hemlock
#

Is ZDL on Linux?

vale gyro
#

You could make your own, though

#

Wait, it might be on Linux actually

#

Worse comes to worse you can compile it from source

vale gyro
#

I would port my launcher to Linux if it didn’t depend on Windows-exclusive features so much

wanton hemlock
hardy hamlet
#

Some of the featured mods work sometimes on console and sometimes they don't. Weird.

mellow trellis
#

I just beat Evilution and I’m Still considering whether I should play Plutonia on HMP or UV. It will be my first time playing it.

hardy hamlet
#

Oh, that's in TNT 🤣 i got them mixed

mellow trellis
#

Haha it’s all good. Yeah the level was rough.

hardy hamlet
#

Not many DOOM YT'ers i follow enjoy it

mellow trellis
#

It wasn’t too bad honestly until the very end with the arch vile and all the lost souls harassing you.

hardy hamlet
#

Yeah

jade solstice
#

What the heck is “W_ReadLump: only read 0 of 188 lump 3054” error

#

When I try to load a mod on doom (Xbox) it crashes my game with that error

#

Interesting. It “unsubscribed”/it uninstalled some of my mods

vale gyro
#

Hmm

jade solstice
#

Not sure if the game update did that or what

vale gyro
#

Could due to someone uploading a GZ mod again?

jade solstice
#

But now my save is corrupt and I can’t load it as a result I guess
Unfortunate

vale gyro
#

Is it every mod you have?

jade solstice
#

Nah it only removed/undownloaded like 2 or 3

#

Interesting… there seems to be an issue with saving during a mod

#

Not sure if it’s only this mod or mods in general

#

I quick saved. And out of curiosity I was like OK let’s quick load and see if it works
Then it put me back to the main menu.. so I tried loading again manually from main menu and it says I don’t have the mod installed

#

The heck is going on man this was fine before the game updated lol

finite crag
#

do you need to create accounts to play odamex/zandronum/zdaemon?

jade solstice
#

And then I tried to load the mod again after going to like the MAIN main menu and it crashed with the same error

#

Definitely an issue of some sort with mods now
Or that specific mod

vale gyro
jade solstice
#

Yeah it’s this mod specifically it seems, along with one other
That’s too bad
I was having fun with it even though I only played like 2 levels

#

Ancient aliens [official]

#

It plays fine. But as soon as I save and then try to load the save it like Fs the game

#

“Please note … any other upload of ancient aliens will have major, game breaking bugs”

#

Sir I can’t save in your WAD upload so I consider that game breaking
REEEEEE baby sadge

hexed escarp
finite crag
#

nice

lapis wolf
lapis wolf
jade solstice
#

Yeah idk why I can’t save with it. It’s whatever I guess
Maybe it’ll be fixed later on

hardy hamlet
#

The recent console update has screwed up the game so badly. Mods now don't work half the time on PS5.

#

@jade solstice The Valiant mod is the same way as Ancient Aliens. If i try loading a save it says i don't have the right mod installed when i do and now with the recent console update (I play on PS5 and Xbox) a ton of mods don't work at all including Base Ganymeade which is an official one.

#

Ancient Aliens is now broken too, saving and loading says "You do not have the proper add-on installed" when i do

#

None of the DBP wads work now either on console when they did prior to the update.

jade solstice
#

Ah, so it is indeed the update that has jacked it

#

Very cool

wanton cave
#

Is the update just affecting mods?

hexed escarp
#

im playing lost civilization rn and im feeling very conflicted because the visuals, atmosphere, and environments are absolutely beautiful but the combat is kinda bad

wanton cave
#

Welp i just double dipped for the new ports by getting it on my ps4

hardy hamlet
#

I just know a lot of them aren’t working since it hit

lapis wolf
#

Wait why does the Shield Saw mod actually work on the KEX port on Xbox?

#

I'm shocked it works lol

finite crag
#

i hate auto weapon switching with a passion now

#

was 1993 doom deathmatch invariably like this too

#

or could you change

#

i need to know

lapis wolf
finite crag
#

and pick up weapons i dont want all the time

#

going mad

#

its like hitbox becomes larger when the game knows you dont want the item

lapis wolf
finite crag
#

yea all the time

#

hope they change that

#

ik this is a very old game and theres some clunk we gotta forgive

azure nimbus
# finite crag i hate auto weapon switching with a passion now

in Boom(and higher comp levels), running out of ammo autoswap is an optional setting. Unfortunately, swap on pickup is all the time. You can start the swap earlier by clicking onto a weapon a little before the pickup itself and then click again to pick what you want thereby picking what you want and potentially pacing the dead time better

finite crag
#

im fine with out of ammo swap cause it makes sense

#

but swapping a ssg to a shotgun doesnt at all lmao

#

also it cancels your firing action on pickup which is the cherry on top

wanton cave
#

Isnt there an option to not auto switch to the new weapon just picked up?

finite crag
#

no

stuck wadi
#

not sure where i should say this, but there's a bug with the idkfa soundtrack on the official port. e3m9, which is supposed to have the same song as e1m9 and e4m9, goes back to the original midi song instead of using the idkfa track.

vast hull
gentle compass
#

A classic

stone tiger
#

Really good tbh

#

Community packs are really good too

wanton hemlock
#

Is it worth giving KDIZD a shot?

wanton hemlock
#

Hope you're fine with dying to a spider mastermind

wanton hemlock
#

What the hell, I wasn't expecting the Kex port to be uncensored

#

Ok, not completely uncensored

stone tiger
#

I can finally launch base doom from ZDL archvile

#

Only took .... years

wanton hemlock
#

Wtf?! I only hadda punch John twice to beat Icon of Sin

#

Talk about crazy RNG rolls

wanton hemlock
#

Is freedoom a good WAD from a level perspective?

stone tiger
#

People vary on ot

wanton hemlock
#

Was just asking for the consensus

#

Welp, apparently the cheats're different

#

welp, nope

median cloud
#

Doom 1’s story intermission ost is great

#

I liked Doom 2’s as well

zealous plaza
#

The mods section got so full that I even found Chex Quest, the 3do music. And weapons from Brutal Doom.

#

Incredible!

#

House.wad caused my first crashes.

lapis wolf
#

Tempest Enterprise is fucking awesome. Wtf. (It's another DBP WAD btw)

#

Remember how I said the update deleted half the mods on the browser?

It also deleted half the WADs on my downloaded as well.... lmao

#

Havoc in Creation is another phenomenal DBP WAD I played today.

wanton hemlock
#

What's a DBP wad?

wanton hemlock
hardy hamlet
wanton hemlock
#

Are they good, bad, or...?

hardy hamlet
#

Fun

wanton hemlock
#

What're your top 5 or w/e from there, @hardy hamlet?

hardy hamlet
#

Not sure lol

reef sigil
#

Hey I got a question about crispy doom. I’ve gotten it working before on chrome os (using Linux) and just got a new chrome book but when trying to launch it, it asks for my iWAD file. I put my copy of the doom.wad in the home directory as well as the crispy doom folder but it still isn’t working. Is there somewhere else I should put the file? Or is there something else I have to do that I’m forgetting?

#

I think this is the right channel but there’s also a chance this is the entirely wrong server so if that’s the case just tell me :))

vale gyro
reef sigil
#

Cool thanks

vale gyro
#

you can shove the IWAD in the same directory Crispy Doom is (assuming you downloaded the binaries online and not through a package manager)

#

it should detect it then

#

if not, you can open a terminal and do something like
./crispy-doom -iwad doom.wad

reef sigil
#

Im gonna go try that thanks

#

Hell yeah it worked thank you

#

I had to change directory to /crispy-doom/src but after that it worked

hexed escarp
vale gyro
#

nice

reef sigil
#

It’s not letting me launch as an executable but j mean I can still shred demons during study hall so it’s not the end of the world

rare temple
#

Is there a place to submit bug reports for Doom + Doom 2?

plucky forge
#

doing a 4p co op tnt lobby rn, code is dnrh if anyone cares

austere tangle
#

Just played the Xbox exclusive levels

#

Oh. My. God.

I had no idea they were as bad as everyone made them out to be

#

They're Sewers and Betray btw

azure nimbus
#

one of them was made by the person porting the game to 360 when he was 10

austere tangle
#

I give Betray some points over Sewers because at least it's got more to it, like a generous amount of weapons

median cloud
#

Yeh they suck

austere tangle
#

I think if I was ever to rank DOOM levels Sewers would be the actual bottom of the barrel

median cloud
#

Ps exclusive levels are fine imo

azure nimbus
#

like psx levels?

median cloud
#

Yeh

austere tangle
#

Yeah they're simple but better to play through

azure nimbus
#

does psx have any fully unique levels? Ik a lot is changed, but are any wholly original

austere tangle
#

It's got some

median cloud
#

These until 59 are exclusive iirc

#

@azure nimbus

austere tangle
#

I kinda wish someone would upload recreations of the PSX versions of DOOM + DOOM II and Final DOOM, new enemy placements and all

azure nimbus
#

psx is kinda slept on

austere tangle
#

I need to shit myself seeing a Pain Elemental in that secret tunnel in E1M1

azure nimbus
#

I'm not saying it's good or bad. Just that well...so few people played it

austere tangle
#

It's definitely one of DOOM's best console ports though

azure nimbus
#

that tunnel'd be a good place to punch it some 40ish times

#

actually idk if that's even safe on psx cuz it's not in d64

median cloud
austere tangle
#

I also really like the horrific atmosphere and music of it and DOOM 64

#

I do find the crunched down Jaguar versions of DOOM maps really weird though

thick token
#

yo, what does safe zone do in display preferences

charred ermine
#

-# sory me have bad nglish

thick token
#

👍 thx dude

finite crag
#

I think E2M1 is my favorite Doom 1 level

vale gyro
finite crag
#

Banger song

#

I like The Healer Stalks sheerly because the comments of the vid I saw of it said "Thanks for shopping at Demon Mart, come again :)"

vale gyro
#

I really like E2M2 as well

#

Berserk Pack + pretty good song

sick yacht
#

Who wants to play doom + doom 2 deathmatch and co op ?

thick token
sick yacht
# thick token sure

How do we set up crossplay for this game ? Do I need to add your bethesda account ?

thick token
#

nah

sick yacht
#

Do you play on Xbox too ?

thick token
#

im on pc

sick yacht
sick yacht
thick token
#

pretty much just create the match and in the lobby there is something called room code, click/select it and it should show the code for the lobby

sick yacht
#

Ill create it

vale gyro
#

Just so you know, the connection will be spotty for the person not hosting

thick token
#

eh, all of the matches i played were like 100ms ping average

vale gyro
#

It’s p2p so it’s not a server y’all or joining

vale gyro
thick token
#

thats true

vale gyro
#

But yeah, hope y’all have fun DMing

thick token
#

also i wonder when theyll add more deathmatch maps

#

i like the addition of the id deathmatch pack but so nearly all levels from e1 doom 1993 are missing

#

probably undone

lapis wolf
#

The amount of PSX and 64 elements, vibes, tone, and references the DBP wads include are insane.

Probably a big reason they slap so hard.

Even the buttons you press often have the DOOM 64 icon.

thick token
lapis wolf
#

There was one DBP project that was more dark Gothic fantasy theme, and the Plasma Rifle was replaced with lightning magic.

Can't remember what it was called

clever dock
#

what mapping format can i use for it to be playable on doom 1 + 2?

vale gyro
#

If it’s on the mod browser, try out Tangerine Nightmare

vale gyro
lapis wolf
clever dock
vale gyro
#

It’s an upgraded version of MBF

#

It’s more for dehacked than anything else but it may add more linedef options that MBF does not

#

I’d say stick to Vanilla or Boom

#

Though, it’s a limit removing port. So don’t worry about visplane overflows

vale gyro
#

map08 kicked my ass, though

#

Also, I was having issues with Woof at the time so it was even more painful to play

finite crag
#

Woof?

vale gyro
#

It’s a source port based on WinMBF

#

It’s really nice

#

Used to be my main until I switched to Nugget Doom, which is a fork of Woof

finite crag
#

I have no idea about source ports

#

Kinda useless info until I get a computer

vale gyro
#

Fair

#

If you get a computer

#

Try out Woof

#

It’s a good bridge between KEX and community ports in my opinion

azure nimbus
#

woof is a community port

vale gyro
#

It even has controller support and Voxel Doom support if that’s your thing

vale gyro
azure nimbus
#

Maybe I'm misreading what you mean by a bridge

vale gyro
#

Yeah, I meant it as it’s a good way to transition from KEX

sick yacht
#

Room code DDRY

#

@thick token

thick token
#

dude im sorry but i need to go to sleep rn

#

prob tomorrow

small knot
#

Guys ngl for the console collection of doom I and Doom II they should partner with gzdoom do you know how many more accomplishments we’d have

lapis wolf
#

DBP 64: The Vast Silence is quite cool being straight up DOOM 64 themed and reusing its sprites, assets, designs, weapons, and sounds and having DOOM 64 looking Revenants and Archviles.

Though. I do have one problem with it. The lighting and colors are a bit bootlegged and washed out compared to ACTUAL DOOM 64.

#

Then D64 style Revenants and Archviles and Chaingunnners are phenomenal sprites though

vale gyro
small knot
azure nimbus
vale gyro
#

Maybe Doom Infinite?

lapis wolf
#

It's weird before the update you still kept mods that got deleted from the browser.

But now you lose the mods that get deleted from the browser

lapis wolf
azure nimbus
vale gyro
lapis wolf
#

They even deleted Sunlust? Why?

vale gyro
#

it's just that I know a lot of popular GZDoom mods actually require a good amount of binds

lapis wolf
#

Ancient Aliens and I think Eviternity remains though

lapis wolf
#

Though there's no official upload of Sunlust, just random user uploads of Sunlust

#

Also definitely much easier to use the official site for mod browsing

azure nimbus
#

with my usual control scheme, I fit all (well I do the usual double bind fist/saw and sg/ssg even on boom and above you can set to distinct non-overlapping keys by ||changing your weapon pref order to have 3 above 9(so the shotgun key maps to the shotgun instead of the ssg) and 1 above 8 so fist is selected before chainsaw))|| of the usual doom weapons and strafe, and use, and pause, and map, and still have four keys remaining. In dire straits, I could debind map and strafe and pause from the controller itself

#

Quake pushed my controller binds a bit since it has a jump and I'm Q2, a crouch

sick yacht
#

Doom 1 + 2 is really laggy if youre not the host

#

At least with the friend I played

lapis wolf
#

Are there DOOM 64 asset reuse WADs for DOOM II that don't look off?

#

It doesn't have to be exact, but the ones I played have a slight gray filter and not nearly as good colored lighting

true current
#

Is anyone else having problems where a lot of your wads are now just gone after this update?

lapis wolf
true current
#

A lot of them are still on the browse page though. Like struggle, and others.

lapis wolf
#

Still a lot, but still

true current
#

Dear gods.

#

I can understand deleting them off of the browse page, but to also take them away from you is criminal.

#

Not to mention that they're still borked on my playstation, and no amount of fresh install will help that. Every time i go into the play mod section in playstation, it softlocks the game.

lapis wolf
lapis wolf
true current
#

Maybe it's a way to dodge copyright liability?

lapis wolf
true current
#

Even simpsons doom is fine. I'm afraid that if I delete the entire game, it will softlock me cause i think i have too many mods.

#

Which is a huge glitch they need to fix.

#

None of the official featured mods are in my mod list anymore either. Weird.

#

I'm gonna try it.

#

If this messes everything up, i'm just gonns wait til they fix everything to play this game again.

finite crag
#

I wonder why Sigil 2 isn't included with D1 + 2

little oar
#

They may not have wanted to add too many "unofficial" wads to it. Sigil is technically a fanwad after all

lapis wolf
little oar
#

(That or because they didn't want the main selection to be too crowded)

lapis wolf
finite crag
#

Oh

little oar
finite crag
#

I dumb

lapis wolf
little oar
#

Dang nvm then

true current
lapis wolf
#

I just realized something.

Why are many of my WADs that I'm subscribed to do NOT appear on my playlist?

#

And I'm talking about WADs that are still on the browser and when I click on them they say "subscribed", yet they don't appear on play?

lapis wolf
#

I think the new update screwed up everything or something. I don't know what's happening.

stone stone
#

I haven't tried it yet, but I thought “maps of chaos” didn't work in this KEX port.
I got the impression that the map for Brutal doom is pretty vanilla, so if it works in this environment, it would be perfect for COOP....

wanton hemlock
#

Sorta hacked up the latest Kex port of Doom to restore the Hitler imagery

elfin seal
#

Brutal Doom brazilian MOD, Marcos Abenante is here? at this dc

median cloud
#

Damn Im excited to play some Doom

#

Away for a week and gotta complete the game

lapis wolf
#

I just played The Lost Magic.

That WAD has gotta be the hardest and most confusing WAD I have played lol.

azure nimbus
#

Hardest? It's on plutonia level

lapis wolf
#

Idk why

sterile rover
azure nimbus
#

idk maybe you just got lost

#

there's just no comparing any of lost magic to sunlust map28, or 29

lapis wolf
azure nimbus
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Maybe because I'm more willing to pull up the editor so it's harder to get really stuck

lapis wolf
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Can't edit on Xbox

azure nimbus
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any computer or laptop?

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Even if you don't own doom on a computer, freedoom2.wad exists for free and will play nicely enough of an editor

lapis wolf
lapis wolf
azure nimbus
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arguably

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I'm less invested in figuring out where to go on my own though. I treat the first run as a research/practice playthrough to do a saveless pistol start

lapis wolf
azure nimbus
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you played both on the same difficulty?

lapis wolf
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Also I am used to DOOM II's default roster a lot more than Lost Magic's new enemies

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Lost Magic's new enemies just fuck you up basically instantly lol.

lapis wolf
azure nimbus
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what are the new enemies again?

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just reading through the wiki, looks like mostly hitscan replacements. nothing too crazy

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the sorcerer is a beeg boy though. That really fast big flying thing

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but the sorcerer was always treated as a proper boss so not so oppressive

lapis wolf
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Basically Chaingunnners on steroids

azure nimbus
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I'd rather the projectile than hitscan

lapis wolf
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They're a lot faster than the Chaingunners

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The moment they hit you, 90% of your health is gone.

Chaingunnners may be hitscan, but their damage and speed is a lot lower

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Also plus there's already Chaingunners in there as well

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So teams of a shitton of both types become a bitch in certain areas lol

lapis wolf
twin mortar
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This applies to D+D2, D3, D64

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And the Unity ports

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Xbox Play Anywhere is a great feature

lapis wolf
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Anyway I liked The Lost Magic, but for some reason I didn't like it nearly as much as a lot of other WADs I have been playing

azure nimbus
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right but snagging the doom2.wad file isn't easy from that feature. Much easier on steam

twin mortar
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But admittedly, it is pretty hard

azure nimbus
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yeah LM was cool and I beat if fairly fast, but I've just been not motivated to do the commentary videos

lapis wolf
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It kinda reminded me of Dungeons and Demons, but not nearly as good

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Though it's harder than Dungeons and Demons however

jade solstice
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@hardy hamlet you’ll have to let me know when they fix the mod thing - since you also noticed it was busted since the last update

lapis wolf
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For me , things are disappearing from play list, despite still appearing on subscribed.

And then things randomly get redownloaded on a random time of day

jade solstice
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Basically since the last update on console for the KEX port, some mods will not load or more commonly will start up, but when you save then try to load the save, it will crash the game and say you don’t have the mod installed

I also had the issue of it being in the play list, but I can’t start it up at all and have to unsubscribe and resubscribe

lapis wolf
jade solstice
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Same

elfin seal
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these days i played wads by eric harris, just out of curiosity, ngl kinda hard, i died several times until complete

sterile rover
wanton hemlock
celest coyote
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True

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I see baby fly, doom, yknow?

lapis wolf
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I also noticed mods are being uploaded at a significantly slower rate ever since the new update. There's only been like 3 mods uploaded since two days ago

sturdy silo
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vale gyro
sturdy silo
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wanton cave
sturdy silo
vale gyro
sturdy silo
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sturdy silo
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vale gyro
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Auger Zenith maybe??

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It’s limit removing, though. You’ll need Crispy Doom

sturdy silo
rotund dew
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finished sunder map 18. that last fight, jeez that's nasty.

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one thing I notice that I'm getting too used to those slaughtermaps is when I see the remaining monsters count and say "oh, there's 200 left, nothing special"

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when a lot of wads don't have 200 monsters on a single level, let alone a single fight that goes into the thousands

opaque rose
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I asked this before but I’ll do it again cuz some time has passed since the doom update came out

Is it just me or is legacy of rust like really hard?

noble fractal
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its pretty hardcore compared to the usual doom episodes

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the second map does have like 200 enemies

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i dont think its as bad as something like plutonia though. even if the monster count is higher its not all chaingunners and revenants

austere tangle
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I beat the first 10 of DOOM 2's Master Levels and good God they are insufferable

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Started off alright but a lot of them later on feel like mazes with obscure solutions, and Black Tower meshes that with being the most frustrating as shit level so far

little oar
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Black tower would be a lot more fun if it was more obvious on where to go next

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How am I supposed to know to backtrack all the way to the yellow key room to find the red key behind what used to be a dead end with a switch in it

flint wren
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How to develop wad maps for PC Steam of doom+doom II?

vale gyro
flint wren
vale gyro
half minnow
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Andrew's version of "Message For The Archvile" is so haunting. Reminds me a lot of his Dusk ambient stuff. It's so good, I'm kinda glad he went for something more spooky than just playing his own guitar riffs for it

stark plume
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How many levels do the master levels have?

azure nimbus
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21

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remember, doomwiki has info on commonly played sets.

austere tangle
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I've been defeated now, quick saved under a crusher in a Master Level

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After getting through stuff like Black Tower, Express Elevator From Hell, and that goddamn yellow key in one level, I'm feeling depressed

stark plume
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You could always pistol start that level

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It won't be cheating and you might feel like you earned your way back

austere tangle
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Yeah, but that means no Rocket Launcher, no SSG, and no BFG to deal with the hordes of enemies

stark plume
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What level is it?

stark plume
austere tangle
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Bloodsea Keep

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LEVEL 19 TOO... so close

stark plume
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I've been pistol starting my way up

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I believe I'm either at level 10 or 11

stark plume
lapis wolf
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I feel like they're going to straight up remove the Console mod support soon because there's now only 60 pages of mods

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Or they'd probably make it so it's going to be extremely strict and specific types of people that need to be verified or something

lapis wolf
austere tangle
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Ugh, goodbye Mario DOOM and Nuts then

lapis wolf
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Kinda shocking actually

sturdy silo
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austere tangle
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Alright, Map 20, the end of this horrible pack of fan stuff

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Mephisto's Mausoleum

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I actually remember this master level way more than any other one combined, funny enough

uneven depot
austere tangle
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Finally done, got my Master of Destruction title which I didn't even know existed

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But hold on, there's the secret level

azure nimbus
austere tangle
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Yeah, that's very accurate

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Those and the Xbox levels make me actually hate fanmade DOOM stuff since they're always having their level difficulty raised through the roof of the goddamn Burj Khalifa

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Actually, Sewers and Betray are more about horrible level design but I digress

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Final DOOM maps also at least feel more like competent levels even with their f*tish for Chaingunners and Revenants

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Then again it's been ages since I got through the entirety of TNT or Plutonia

azure nimbus
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While fan levels absolutely have the potential to be really hard -- you don't have to play those. There are tons of chill custom sets out there (and HNTR + HMP exist)

little oar
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Anything that would kill you, would have already done so (or at least made you aware of its presence) by the end of then

lapis wolf
austere tangle
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Maybe I'm just tired of playing levels that are actually badly designed (cough Yellow Key)

lapis wolf
azure nimbus
little oar
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Yes, but at least then you still have your previous quicksave

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Better to go back and lose a few minutes instead of losing all progress + weapons and have to pistol start because of a bad save

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Obv if something attacks you within those 5 seconds, then you don't quicksave at all until the threat is dealt with

azure nimbus
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oh yeah I never use "quicksaves". Just do a manual save and keep a rotation of saves

vale gyro
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same

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never once used a quicksave

little oar
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Yeah having multiple proper saves is safer. But for convenience sake it's nice to have quicksave/load at the press of a button

vale gyro
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fair

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it's useful for rapid testing

azure nimbus
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in theory, I'm blowing up my machine by storing probably thousands of saves from different wads(DSDA stores saves separately depending on wads), but also doom saves are miniscule

little oar
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I'll proper/hard save at the beginning of a mission but that's usually it until the next one

little oar
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Iirc you can even upload the entire wad through discord without the boosted nitro file size it's so small

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Actually, how big can a doom save even get? I imagine you'd have to have all weapons + ammo + keys, but what else. Does map size affect saves?

azure nimbus
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The state of sectors and linedefs needs to be accounted for. All monsters and what exact state they're in. Any current powerups and their associated timers. All projectiles and their states. I wouldn't be surprised if a save is bigger than the map

lunar rune
pine violet
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So I heard the Revenant was a cut monster from Doom 1 (I think it was the ID Vault that said this?) are there any other cut monsters from Doom 1 in the Doom 2 cast?

finite crag
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hey, i can't link my bethesda account to doom + doom 2 on steam, it just freezes then closes after a few seconds. anyone know what i should do?

gaunt jacinth
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hey can any of yall play multiplayer on doom 1 and 2

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oh i think i know

finite crag
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what do you thinks happening

gaunt jacinth
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i had the same problem with all thye doom games but i got signed in.

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did you use an old email for your bethesda net account

finite crag
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no

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i used my current email

gaunt jacinth
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oh

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then can you like record a vid of your problem?

finite crag
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yeah ill try one mkn

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*min

gaunt jacinth
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also blur out account info that might be in the vid

finite crag
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oh god wait did it actually work

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every single time it didnt work but when i ask for help it starts working

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thanks anyways though, i tried about 20 times and it just froze on the screen after i clicked login

gaunt jacinth
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can you play online multiplayer on doom 1 and 2 ?

vale gyro
gaunt jacinth
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bet

vale gyro
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oh wait, just realized if you were asking if anyone wanted to play

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can't right now

gaunt jacinth
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oh mb

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can anyone play multiplayer right now?

fervent plaza
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anyone know how to bring up the searchbar for doom 1 + 2

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for mods

vale gyro
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It’s bullshit but there is none

fervent plaza
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is there a mods folder

vale gyro
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Not that I’m aware of, no

fervent plaza
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where does it even store the mods

vale gyro
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I don’t use the new port often enough to actually look into it

fervent plaza
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oh ok

vale gyro
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I prefer using Nugget Doom lol

fervent plaza
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i wonder will they add support for coop on the wads

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setting up p2p with my friend group is a complete pain in the ass

young escarp
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How does anyone sees about support for the new source port or any patch notes? There's nothing on the slayer club

little oar
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They'll post patch notes on the steam library page, usually one of the first things you see when scrolling down

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This minor update makes improvements to how clients communicate with the backend in DOOM + DOOM II.
Is literally all we're working with with the latest patch. Those are the details right there. 1 sentence.

stone tiger
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Ya know, playing Brutal Doom again is kinda fun

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Played some 22Test3 and it's still cool

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Def also like vanilla too

median cloud
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Is using the lost soul limit cheating?

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Just played through the pit in chocolate doom which has the lost soul limit

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which means pain elementals cant spawn lost souls unless u go kill the ones in the secret BFG area

finite crag
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No

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The base game had a lost soul limit

lapis wolf
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I really hope they fix the whole modding thing/situation , constant crashes and soft locks, as well as multiplayer items automatically making it nightmare randomly.

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Oh the Console version of the KEX port. Because this thing is so ridiculously flawed it's insane

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Also annoyed that I lost the vast majority of my mods...as well as many mods allowing you to subscribe but not actually let you download and play them like Ancient Aliens.

noble fractal
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i havent really had any problems playing mods but the wad browser really needs some improvements

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it would be nice just to have a search bar instead of having to scroll through 15 pages to find the mod you want

lapis wolf
lapis wolf
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Though it's still dumb it's not built in-game

iron quail
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doom and doom two

lapis wolf
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Why TF does it let me download unofficial uploads of mods, but not the official ones?

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I can download unofficial Eviternity and Ancient Aliens uploads for example, but the official uploads be damned. Like what?

lapis wolf
thick token
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one thing that pisses me off is that in the ingame browser when ever i select a mod thats in the second page or over or in another category, when i hit back it just sends me back to the start page

rigid valley
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Anyone else find a majority of their mods unsubscribed or fully deleted in Doom + Doom II?

wanton hemlock
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Wanna "fun" challenge for Plutonia?

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Nightmare w/ network items

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Yes, the Mastermind will respawn

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...does the Kex port of Doom have the 21 soul limit?

median cloud
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Why is pistol starting Doom 2 map 13 downtown like low key hard haha

short kayak
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I’m hard

fallow canopy
fallow canopy
carmine wyvern
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it'd be nice if leagacy of rust had a vanilla port

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i find the kex port's mouse control awkward

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kinda like it has mouse acceleration on at all times

lapis wolf
wanton hemlock
short kayak
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Doom guy looking a lil too good today 😭🙏

fallow canopy
sick yacht
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Its impossible to play doom + doom 2 online

pine violet
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You'll see a folder called Bnet wads or something like that

lapis wolf
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10 crashes within 15 minutes.

Wow

thick token
vast reef
fallow canopy
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Guys so so y'all know DO NOT CLIP THROUGH WALLS IN DOSBOX DOOM

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I just had an epileptic attack while trying to see romeros head on a stick