classic-doom

[zenith berry]

(It’d be cool for My House to receive a continuation of sorts, considering on how the map “changes itself”)

(this is just an excuse from me wanting more of these mods)

[vast reef]

yourhouse.wad

😳

[spice radish]

It doesn't need a sequel. Its better being a one off thing. Though more mods similar could be kinda cool.

[zenith berry]

That’s why I said this :p

(And yes I have played Lilith and The Thing You Can’t Defeat)

The latter similarly starts off innocent but as Doomguy’s dementia worsens, each map progressively becomes a jumbled nightmare.

It shows that you can still do horror without even involving ghosts let alone jump scares. Although for My House, I still expected one to do so :p

[rare depot]

Damn I'm having more fun with doom 1 than I ever expected lol

Made it through E2M3 today and got 100% of everything so far :D

[last vessel]

Same finished doom 1 yesterday and now im on doom 2, having a good time

[rare depot]

Yeah I'm gonna buy 2 and 3 soon

[tepid tulip]

Well today I learned that one of my favorite Doom wads got a sequel recently

Can't wait to play Nostalgia 2

playing this before Dean of Doom maybe decides to play it, but I expect it to be harder than the previous one

[dense plinth]

people usually don't bother with 100% item pickups with how tedious it can be

[hexed escarp]

You don't have to get 100% items to be considered as 100%ing the map. The item count is ignored by speedrunners and players alike

[zenith berry]

Added with the fact that not all items are obtainable under certain conditions, i.e. you can’t grab medikits when your health is 100.

Same thing with ammo items.

Which is also probably why item doesn’t count towards UV Max.

[worn crown]

how do i play this on ios

[rare depot]

Oh, rip

[strange oar]

💀

[vale gyro]

Just buy the official mobile port

[bronze cloud]

They haven't updated the Android version in a while

I have to use the Jack Sparrow method if I want to play them on Android (you all know what I mean)

[finite crag]

Yeah probably, if someone wants to get 100% items then all the power to them but otherwise they are a pain in the ass to get

[rare depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669411056036347927/1164743127853187184/20231019215249_1.jpg?ex=65445291&is=6531dd91&hm=d5f3aefe03cdbb1f47eee016bdb3a20553ef9d93e53e5da2abc802f1ea427cb0&

Finally completed shores of hell, now onto inferno

[hexed escarp]

Nice

[wet flame]

Doom 2 honestly felt like an addon to Doom 1

It didn’t really add to much ngl

Still obviously a great game but yeah

[halcyon willow]

It doubles the enemy roster and adds the all important ssg which makes a much bigger difference than might appear at first. There's a reason the the vast majority of custom maps are made for doom 2

[worn crown]

i dont HAVE it

[tepid tulip]

Machete is a pretty good wad

Also the Scythe influence is pretty neat as well

Also is one of my favorite Map01s

[limber moss]

I dont know where to ask this but ive been trying to extract the wolf3d menu font which is BigFont.fon2 to a TTF font is that possible. all i been able to get is to extract it as a either a jpg file or the orginal file type which is fon2.
The only tool i have found to extract it with is SLADE.

Ps i know this is not a wolfenstein3d discord but there is not a good wolf3d discord server and secondly doom also uses this filetype.
Any help would be appreciated 😀

[vale gyro]

Welp, you can’t exactly play it otherwise when it comes to IOS unless you want to find some random thing for it online

[vast reef]

enemies make a considerably bigger difference in mapsets tbh

but yeah it basically is a big dlc lol

[unique lintel]

I do enjoy the classic doom games but i will say that there isnt enough stuff for my adhd brain to play it for more than an hour

[vast reef]

play slaughter maps :)

https://youtu.be/1WYCorCnAi8

[unique lintel]

Whats that if its a mod i cant play it i play them on console

[vast reef]

what console

you can get mods on jailbroken switches afaik

[unique lintel]

Xbox one for doom 64 and ps4 for doom 1 and 2

[vast reef]

ah never mind then

[finite crag]

Oh wait you can add your own mods to the Switch version? Interesting.... I just bought the games there last week and I was sad I can't just load mods like I can on my phone

[vast reef]

gbatemp.net/threads/gzdoom-for-switch.538010/

enjoy

[finite crag]

nice, thanks

[unreal gorge]

I'm finally getting around to fully playthrus of the unity versions and i keep finding myself raging at the glitches. the number of times I've seen a demon get stuck on geometry, the number of times I've reloaded into a wall, plz help i can't take it

[vocal summit]

you can't do that

TTF is a vector format while fon and fon2 are bitmap formats

windows still supports fon though, some bundled fonts are in that format like FixedSys

[vast reef]

r u being edgy or genuine

yeah never mind read ur bio

[rotund dew]

well, I had the urge to get into some slaughter maps and went back to sunder map 16. holy hell I was in for a treat (I only played up to 1/4 of the map and I'm pretty much in the middle now)

I dunno how or why gazebo thought it was a good idea to send hordes of revenants, viles, spiderdemons and so on to the player's face and no bfg. it's hard for the sake of being hard.

lucky for me I'm in continuous play and I have the bfg for these eventualities, otherwise it would become way too hard and too grindy

[halcyon willow]

gotta earn that bfg

i didn't find any of the fights super grindy in map 16

sunder is also one of my favourite mapsets of all time so it's very much my jam

[rare depot]

Is UV+ supposed to be a big jump in difficulty from UV or is it just Inferno's levels

[sharp coral]

UV+ is just UV difficulty with fast monsters and multiplayer items the way I understand it

[rare depot]

Ah, I see

[hexed escarp]

Is it multiplayer monsters too?

[sharp coral]

I think it's any object flagged as multiplayer, so I suppose so.

[finite crag]

hey, does anyone have a recommendation of a map to test out monster/weapons packs in? Preferrably something where you get most of your weapons in one go and face all monster types, but not a slaughtermap? I've been trying to generate something in obsidian but not getting much.

[faint citrus]

I’ve just bought doom with my gold points on my switch and I think I’m obsessed with doom now

[sharp coral]

I guess map 30 of doom 2 lol

Maybe map 29 or map 30 from Plutonia

[finite crag]

Any good halloween themed mega wad ?

[rotund dew]

Use the og slaughter map (go 2 it). You get all weapons and face all monsters but not in an overwhelming way like most modern slaughter wads

[finite crag]

Try Ad Mortem, it's really really cool

[strange oar]

I'm gonna guess MyHouse COMPLETELY BREAKS in Mutiplayer?

[blazing inlet]

Hi

Have you guys tried scientist for doom 1993

It really challenges you bc there are no health packs but it's still fun

[vale gyro]

Currently trying to play spawncell

Only issue is that I’ve softlocked myself most likely and I’m not spending another 4 hours getting to that point again in map02

[finite crag]

Thanks ! I just saw it will get an update with the phase 3 the 28th october

[cerulean delta]

Yes, it uses multiplayer start points to re-enter the level in the mirror house

[strange oar]

Huh, I figured it broke because of all the special actions. Didn't know Multiplayer starts were involved.

[cerulean delta]

well it's probably a lot more than the multiplayer starts that would break the level

[strange oar]

True.

[cerulean delta]

DavidXNewton on youtube has a 4 part series about all the weird tricks the map uses, he even has some cut content

there was going to be a 17th item, ||a quarter that said "I'd like to make a collect call, please." when you picked it up. He thinks it had to do with the pay phone at the gas station, that in the 1st version of MyHouse it's interactible||

[strange oar]

Ooh, interesting. I'll have to check it out.

[vale gyro]

Got into map03 actually, kicking my ass though

It feels like an RNG fest

Billion enemies in a small area with no BFG because I could not find anyway to get it in the last map

It was probably locked behind an archvile jump

Wouldn’t have been able to get it at all if that was the case

[vale gyro]

Though I will say that every single map so far has had a pretty good looking environment (I should say every map as there are only 3 maps to the entire wad..)

[hexed escarp]

how is tricks and traps 100% kills physically possible on uv pistol start

whats the best room order

[autumn galleon]

What do you guys think is the best console port of Doom (1993) from back then?

[unreal gorge]

like 90s ports? ps1 is the best, the rest are all variations of terrible

[golden needle]

omfg, why do half the things from realm667 have errors

[hexed escarp]

im trying to play doom 2 saveless uv pistol start and why is tricks and traps exponentially more difficult than the previous maps when playing this way

[lapis mist]

do any of you guys play classic doom online

I am kinda new to the whole online playing of og DOOMs
wondering if it is normal for everytime I run doomseeker or doom explorer for my malwarebytes to pick up a trojan?

[golden needle]

thats pretty common for me, nothing bad ever happened to my computer, no slowdowns or ads, im pretty sure its safe, or malwarebytes being stupid

[vale gyro]

I’ll say it’s a false positive like the person above me said

Doomseeker has been around for a while

[lapis mist]

Yeah for sure it has haha... Yeah that's cool

Thanks guys it's been really fun so far

[warped wind]

Hey, so I'm really interested in coop games, though I don't play much multiplayer doom and thus am not too familiar with teh server settings
I'd love to play coop doom with other doods in particularly hard maps
I notice that all weapon pickups are randomized and that when you pick a weapon up, it stays for the other player to also pick it up. How do I remove the randomization and not get the bfg in the first level itself, and how do I make it so we have to share stuff too? It's really not much of a challenge when every room is an armory

[warped wind]

Would you use doomseeker or doom explorer? Is there much of a difference?

[lapis mist]

I mean not sure which one I prefer yet.... but supposedly doomseeker is more modern and multi platform but yeah so far I mostly end up using doom explorer and I am not sure why... but it seems more simplified lol since I have only done it for a day or two so far

[lapis mist]

I did one on brutal doom stuff I am not really sure how matching works cause maps seem random anyways? not entirely sure

[warped wind]

Hmm, I always thought the server browser were the same
Do they have different servers or do they show the same thing?

Every server out there is empty
Then there are few, with a kiloton of mods to download first
If that wasn't enough, I get 200+ ping. On all the servers with other human beings

[lapis mist]

they should show the same things... however I think one of them shows a few other servers... I forget

yeah that is slightly typical... I have yet to play on an og doom map... or the same map twice actually

[warped wind]

I can't stop thinking about Magenta Spire. It's a fever dream of a doom wad...
In about level 3 I started to get a little nostalgic
It's not like I even had any memories of playing a similar game but I remember seeing myself play the same thing but on a non hd screen
A square screen with the dos version of the game running
The only notable traces of it is its download page (in a doomworld forums page I believe) and a doom mod madness episode by IcarusLIVES. It was fine at first, but then became a slaughtermap on level 3 onwards.
I liked the music too. Map03's Stomp by Jeremy Doyle.

[remote cedar]

have you guys ever had trouble with autoaim with DSDA?

I feel like that sourceport's autoaim is ass

[narrow condor]

In what way?

I doubt they would change the autoaim code from PrBoom+, since it's supposed to be demo-compatible.

[sleek sage]

I've been dabbling with doomseeker and doom explorer for a few days, and from what I've gathered they're pretty similar to eachother. Doom explorer multiplayer has the capability to show servers for almost every multiayer port of doom (ZDaemon, Zandronum, Doomsday, and I can't remember the other atm), while Doomseeker is ONLY Zandronum servers.

Doom explorer also had the single player setup, unlike doomseeker (unless I just haven't found it lol). I know you can put more ports of doom in the single player options, i.e. GZDoom, Chocolate Doom, etc.

[sleek sage]

That all being said, I do think doom explorer has a more newbie friendly ui and just more comfortable feeling of operation in general; but it's all down to personal preferences of course.

[lapis mist]

Yeah as someone whos got like 2-3 days using it I would agreee

[remote cedar]

when it comes to vertical aim, even when I'm in range and even if I'm in the right angle, it only works half the time

or at least it feels that way

it makes clearning chaingunners in Plutonia a chore

[narrow condor]

The main problem with hitscan enemies is that their range is longer than your autoaim range.

[zenith berry]

They’re trained snipers.

[narrow condor]

It's funny how they still struggle with vertical autoaim. They will aim for you but shoot a cacodemon floating way above you because it's in front of you.

[finite crag]

Were they different

[zenith berry]

PS1 is the most unique

[finite crag]

İ finished pc

One

[pale finch]

oh hey

ultimate or 93

[zenith berry]

mostly the same except with the addition of a fourth episode for the former.

(and of course, being sold in retail)

[finite crag]

93

[finite crag]

İ had a fourth episode

[zenith berry]

so you have The Ultimate Doom then.

[pale finch]

ps1 doom is so good

[unreal gorge]

3d0 and jaguar has a few unique levels, and others were changed to fit the hardware. 32x just sucks. ps1 was a combo of 1&2 with new music and enemy/item layouts and new visuals

oh and there's saturn but i don't remember anything about that one

[finite crag]

İdk i downloaded from game pass

[zenith berry]

I mean, Ultimate DOOM is like the only release of DOOM 1 available now. The original Doom could only be ordered via mail.

So future releases based DOOM 1 from its Ultimate version.

[hexed escarp]

what is a good wad to try to beat saveless to get better and more consistent at the game

i started to do doom 2 but doom 2 is really annoying

what is something around that level but with less irritating level design

[sand dove]

Guys

How do I get 400 pistol shots in Doom 1?

I only have 200

So I can't kill the cyberdemon

[hexed escarp]

when you pick up a backpack it doubles your ammo capacity

[sand dove]

Thanksss

I did not know that

[finite crag]

why are you trying to pistol the cyberdemon, is it a challenge run

[unreal gorge]

shoot it with 49 rockets and THEN finish it with the pistol🧠

[white vortex]

It's an Xbox achievement

[autumn galleon]

I know it's not as awesome as the rocking music in the DOS versions, but actually like the music in the PS1 port. It gives it a more darker tone and atmosphere.

[void hemlock]

And that’s completely fine

Aubrey Hodges also composed for Doom 64 and the music he composed for fits way better with the overall aesthetic of that game

[worn crown]

you know whats funny is that decino knows everything about the doom I and II engine so he has reason to get mad when an enemy does crazy damage

[autumn galleon]

Is anyone surprised that Doom wasn't adapted into a kid's cartoon back in 1990s like Mortal Kombat did?

On a second of thought, it wouldn't work.

[rapid kraken]

too gorey

[autumn galleon]

Yeah, even the idea of adapting Mortal Kombat into a kids cartoon is dumb.

[rapid kraken]

true

[vast reef]

early scythe2 maybe

that's still harder than doom 2 but i used it for practice because the skill level was comfortable

[hexed escarp]

how do you fight arachnotrons without getting hit

they are the enemies that give me the most trouble

[sharp coral]

Depends on how much space you got, but generally just circle strafing works.

[hexed escarp]

if i dont have the space for that

or if there are a lot of them

[sharp coral]

You have to painchance them and escape/get to cover if you don't have space, and if you can't escape/don't have cover then you just straight up have to painchance them until they die.

Chaingun or plasma rifle should stun them often enough

If you are in a really bad spot without them, you could try using one enemy to block other enemies projectiles and use the ssg to stun the one you are using for cover

[vast reef]

sometimes you can come up with a strafing pattern specific to an encounter that lets you evade most shots

[edgy holly]

Aye can someone help me with a online trophy

[vast reef]

specify

[edgy holly]

The 25 kills in death match

Cause no one is playing online anymore

[vast reef]

jusf ask a friend

[edgy holly]

I have no friends that play

[unreal gorge]

you got two controllers?

[edgy holly]

Yeah

[unreal gorge]

you can get the deathmatch trophies that way, it only takes a few minutes

[edgy holly]

Oh okay so I use both of my controllers

And I just keep getting kills?

[vast reef]

yeah

[edgy holly]

Okay thank you

[junior karma]

you mean he has no reason right? since knowing the engine code means he knows the damage ranges and probabilities and that it isn't a bug.

[worldly lintel]

Amazing

We do too!

[meager lantern]

DOOM On PS1 is Goofy

[rustic yoke]

Hello

How is everyone

[autumn galleon]

It's sad that hardly anyone plays any of the Doom games online. Even one of my nephews thinks Doom is boring (it's not). Honestly I put the blame on Fortnite, Warzone, Minecraft (despite not being a bad game), and Roblox. Those are the only four games people play nowadays.

[white vortex]

I mean they are fun to play

[finite crag]

There is only Doom

[white vortex]

There is more than doom

[finite crag]

Yes Doom 2

[white vortex]

There is more than doom games and wads

[zenith berry]

Let’s introduce our kids arena shooters.

[autumn galleon]

Yeah, I bet they'll have more fun shooting demons, aliens, and each other in arena shooters than building things in Minecraft, being put in some "battle royale" in Fortnite and Warzone, and whatever the hell they do in Roblox.

[crimson blade]

I think it is more popular than Doom because classic Doom can be very archaic and difficult to learn to play.

Fortnite has collaborations, easy gameplay (leaving aside the construction), Warzone is played more since it feels like the usual Cod but in battle royale (the same with fortnite)

Minecraft and roblox are, well, games for kids

There are people who just don't go with the gore and the hellish atmosphere

[void hemlock]

My favorite game is Terraria, which think of it as Minecraft but in 2D, but note it’s not “2D Minecraft” as people say that kinda pisses me off

It’s got a bunch of gore in it if you want that

[vast reef]

"only four games people play nowadays" is a shit take

you forgot genshin and valorant

[white vortex]

I call Minecraft 3d terraria 💀

[void hemlock]

If there was an inverted version of the skull emoji I would use that right now

Because that’s how I feel about that; odd emotions

[autumn galleon]

Yeah, retro games are very hard to get into because of that, which is why many re-releases of them have rewind and save/load state features.

[vast reef]

gameplay-wise doom is streamlined and possibly the best first fps game

doom's barrier to entry comes from the technical side like setting up a source port, but the unity port exists so 🤷

[crimson blade]

A revenant skull

[vast reef]

doom just isn't as popular because it's old and feels old

[void hemlock]

I still like classic doom

[sharp coral]

I remember when I first tried doom 1 on the unity port on console I thought it was boring lol. I went back again later and gave it another try, and something stuck then. Kinda crazy that I went from thinking it's boring to being obsessed with the game, but I'm glad I did. I think there is joy in the fluid simplicity and the monster balance is pretty nice.

[void hemlock]

Not as much as the modern reboot

But classic doom is still fun on custom maps and mods

[vast reef]

i found doom 1 boring at first because of the lack of difficulty

but e3 on uv fixed it up for me back then difficulty-wise

[void hemlock]

Did you try Nightmare

[vast reef]

i beat e1m1 on nightmare for the fuck of it and never tried anything nm-related ever again

[void hemlock]

Or did you even try episode 4 on UV

[vast reef]

you know i said "at first" right

1st 2 episodes

i think slough of despair was where i got stuck lmao

[void hemlock]

No im asking have you played episode 4

[vast reef]

yes

you said "did you try" instead of "have you tried" so i assumed you were referring to past me finding the game easy

[sharp coral]

I can't remember why exactly I found it boring, but I'm guessing lack of difficulty was one of the reasons why. I probably also was not amused at how there weren't many enemy types at the start. I do remember that I didn't like not being able to look up or down, which funny enough is something I prefer now for the vanilla feel.

[vast reef]

never minded not looking up and down but it's the major thing aiding to the game's dated feel

honestly why i just recommend gzdoom to newcomers

[blissful timber]

I prefer it. Hell, I’ve loaded into gzdoom for many wads

[finite crag]

there's a reason GZDoom is basically the default sourceport for most people getting into Doom
only the people who want a more classic or purist experience go into the other more vanilla compatible source ports, and even if someone starts out with just those, they might just get back into GZDoom because of mods later

which is why my main sourceports are GZDoom and DSDA

[unreal gorge]

man all those early early fan revisions of doom that added mouselook and weird lighting effects and whatnot

chocolate doom all day over here

[void hemlock]

Well for me it’s PrBoom+

GZDoom is prioritized for modding

[finite crag]

yeah PrBoom+ is very respectable and DSDA is pretty much the same, at least I think

[pale finch]

zandronum is the best tho

flexible, supports the mods

[void hemlock]

I use zandronum for multiplayer

[pale finch]

it also has singleplayer support

is good

are map enhancements compatible with HontE

[craggy wharf]

is there a channel where i can talk about modding and how to do it

[autumn galleon]

It's a shame that the Unity ports didn't have online multiplayer, but then again, it'll probably be a ghost town if they do have it.

That's why when I tried to play the BFG Edition ports online on the Xbox 360, I noticed that nobody plays it online. I wonder why.

[white vortex]

#classic-doom-maps-mods

[silent mural]

hey, where could i find the most complete archive of deathmatch demo and frag movies

as old as possible, preferably

[vast reef]

only a portion of them

zand's modding capabilities are way behind gz

[digital eagle]

hey yall on doomseeker where do you find someones buddy name to add them?

trying to play doom with my son and were stumped

[halcyon willow]

i don't think doomseeker has that kind of functionality

you'll both have to find the same server and join

or host your own via TSPG

[vocal summit]

outside of multiplayer use or for really old mods, zandro sucks
no zscript support so anything made for something newer than like gzdoom 2.x+ won't work on it, and even the DECORATE is very outdated, not supporting every function from zdoom 2.8 or anonymous functions

[halcyon willow]

Zandronum is fine. Just don't expect it to do anything it can't

[vocal summit]

it can't do a lot of things

[halcyon willow]

So?

Different ports have different capabilities

It's by far and away the easiest multi-player port to host and join servers

[vocal summit]

for that one purpose and not much else yeah

[halcyon willow]

You clearly have expectations of things zandro has never claimed to be able to do

[vocal summit]

like what

[halcyon willow]

Like all of this

If you want to whine about it, go talk to the port developers

[vocal summit]

that's what the person who said zandronum is the best claimed

"supports all the mods", and yet it doesn't

[supple panther]

Hi

[halcyon willow]

No port supports all mods

[vocal summit]

yes but you know what they meant, shit like gameplay mods

[supple panther]

How do I get the zombie doom slayer and other skins on discord?

[vocal summit]

which gzdoom supports like 99% of

the exceptions are some mods made explicitly for zandronum like bring your own class and fartyguns, or mods that have some quirks in the code that were fixed like the brutal doom 0.l problem

[halcyon willow]

i have no idea what they meant. i wasn't part of the conversation

[supple panther]

Hey I know I'm not really part of this but I just wondering how can I unlock the zombie doom slayer skin on discord for PS4 when I entered the website it says oops unable to accept invite so can anybody help me?

[vocal summit]

this is not the doom eternal channel

[supple panther]

Sorry I trying get help but nobody was answering

[halcyon willow]

this is also not customer support. you're better off raising a help ticket via the website

[autumn galleon]

It's a shame the Unity ports don't have online multiplayer.

[finite crag]

Guys

How many maps are there in doom 2

[unreal gorge]

30 plus 2 secret levels

[finite crag]

Should i play the secret levels

[unreal gorge]

they're a nice nostalgia trip if you're into id games but otherwise its nothing special. also if you miss them in-game you can always use level select to check them out

[finite crag]

Ok thanks

[remote cedar]

the secret levels you really don't wanna miss are in Final Doom

they're always packed with monsters, which is a fun challenge in and of itself

[vast reef]

REAL

go 2 it ❤️‍🔥

[remote cedar]

I have yet to play Plutonia's secret levels

[finite crag]

İ will play the secret levels in doom 2

[remote cedar]

I hope they're good

[finite crag]

Should i play final doom

İt isnt even in sale

[remote cedar]

Ooooh I'm not that sure

[vast reef]

simultaneously best (plutonia) and worst (tnt) classic doom game but it's tough

also it comes with doom 1 or 2 i think

[finite crag]

How

[remote cedar]

The Plutonia Experiment is really tough. Keeps you on your toes but you'll have plenty of ammo to spare

[finite crag]

İ finished doom 1 but didnt see it

[remote cedar]

TNT: Evilution is kind of a drag though

[remote cedar]

it's packaged with Doom II

[finite crag]

İ also have doom 2

[remote cedar]

maybe check the game files

you'll be sure to find plutonia.wad and tnt.wad in the game files

if you'd rather play them with the Unity port you'll have to download those with your Bethesda account

[finite crag]

What is unity port

[vast reef]

official steam version

[remote cedar]

well, the most recent one, anyway

there's still the DOS version on Steam

and that's where you can get your hands on the WAD files easily

if you bought the game on Steam, you have access to these files

[unreal gorge]

press b button

my dude say what the problem is

[vast reef]

just say the mod and problem directly

[remote cedar]

lemme guess, it's myhouse.wad that you're trying to run?

What's the issue?

yeah nvm this is not my field

[finite crag]

İ downloaded from game pass is it different

[vast reef]

nah

check keybinds

[finite crag]

İs it mod

For doom 2?

Doesnt it says in control menu ?

İs brutal doom v21 a mod for different game

[vale gyro]

Brutal Doom is a mod for Doom 1 and 2

It’s for GZDoom, though

Won’t work in anything else

Except Zandronum iirc

[rotund dew]

play plutonia including the secret levels

tnt isn't worth it imo, just jump straight to custom wads

but don't tackle wads like sunder or sunlust until you can beat plutonia comfortably

or even worse, dimensions or italo doom

[unreal gorge]

I'm nearly at the end of tnt of almost three decades of trying lol and after playing most of the maps my opinion hasn't changed at all. the whole campaign is just wildly dull at best. worst offical doom campaign imo

[pale finch]

8.26

[remote cedar]

Agreed. TNT isn't worth the trouble... but as a completionist, I played it and cleared it in UV Max. So I can say it truly sucks and the amount of monsters is asinine and a lot of them are low tier enemies which is just annoying

[narrow condor]

I think TNT has its own charm and is worth playing (but not replaying). TNT-influenced wads do TNT better than TNT.

[worldly lintel]

TNT is definitely an acquired taste for most, its not bad and i would say the highlight maps of TNT are one of the best maps out of all the iwads but also the lows being one of the lowest of the iwads

I would still highly recommend playing TNT before playing Plutonia. Because playing Plutonia right after doom 2 isnt something i wouldnt recommend difficulty wise

[finite crag]

I've just finished the Master Levels yesterday and I cannot fathom how TNT could possibly be worse than that

I had to use video guides to figure out what to do next in several maps, with completely ridiculously hidden keys and switches
some of the maps were really cool tho, I enjoyed Black Tower the most

[gusty falcon]

Title is abit misleading but it's definitely a fun watch

https://youtu.be/BIihJKL-84w?si=aYQojZqh3s_5Bt0N

[thorn vine]

was it ever figured out how myhouse was made

[worldly lintel]

listen, we don't really count the master levels as one of the commercial iwads. does are in their own league

[worldly lintel]

lots of silent teleporters

[vast reef]

yea lol

i don't think the map's structure is THAT esoteric lol

[ebon pelican]

idk i think it was made with doom builder iirc

[finite crag]

hi doom buddies! i've been wanting to play doom for a while, so since there's gonna be a steam promotion on halloween, i decided to try to buy doom 1 and 2, so, i've been wondering if i should download gzdoom now (since it's free), or buy the original ones first? i'm kinda new to doom so i don't have that much information about it, i just think it's cool.

[void hemlock]

GZDoom is a source port to play mods on

Source ports are (mostly) fan-made engine modifications in order to run the Doom 1 or 2 files, called “WADs”

You need to have a WAD in order to run it on a source port

[vast reef]

most are fan-made engine modifications to be specific

[void hemlock]

It is recommended that you get PrBoom+ to have the best experience for Doom 1 and 2, or play the Bethesda source port for efficiency if you want once you get the games (the first option when you click play on Doom 1 or 2)

[vast reef]

they add features such as proper 3d rendering, qol, shader support, mod support, etc.

[vast reef]

though honestly they're so far removed that a good portion can be considered fan-made engines but yadda yadda

[remote cedar]

I decided to skip over the Master Levels

no amount of money or pressure could make me want to play them

so far if I had to rank my experience with Doom games I would rate it like this: TNT Evilution < The Plutonia Experiment < Doom II < Doom 1993

[void hemlock]

@finite crag just to let you know from what I know about source ports:

• PrBoom+ is used for playing vanilla and/or with custom maps that don’t require mods
• GZDoom is mostly for playing modded and modding
• Zandronum can also be used like GZDoom, but also is used for multiplayer purposes as well. Zandro has other features packed in such as colored lighting

There is definitely some notable ones I’m forgetting, but that’s the gist of it

[finite crag]

oh boy.

[remote cedar]

I do believe I'd take DSDA over PrBoom+, but given that DSDA is just a fork project of PrBoom+ they might actually be pretty much equal

[finite crag]

ohh, i see.

[void hemlock]

But just to clarify to you

Buying Doom 1 and 2 gives you files for the games in order to make them run on source ports

[finite crag]

There are many source ports and they all are good and valid for playing Doom
My ports of choice are DSDA and GZDoom for mods
You can just play the modern official ports that you buy on Steam/GoG too

[remote cedar]

I'm not a fan of the Unity port personally

it feels too different from the original experience imo

[void hemlock]

And if you want to play vanilla:

• PrBoom+ for the best experience imo
• Bethesda port (first option after clicking play) for efficiency if you want

[finite crag]

I got the Bethesda port on my Switch, and it's a very okay way to play, even if I don't have access to 90% of wads and mods I'd like to play, they still do have add-ons
On my phone I got DeltaTouch and can run whatever I'd like

[void hemlock]

Is DeltaTouch an android only source port?

[finite crag]

It's a paid app that brings 7 source ports to Android, including GZDoom and PrBoom+, among others
You still need to supply your own WADs, though

[finite crag]

oh... got it.

But it can run basically any maps or mods that you could download on the PC

[vast reef]

dsda-doom has more features bugfixes and development than prboom+

it's a fork of prboom+

[void hemlock]

I’ll check that out after I beat Doom Eternal today

[finite crag]

I like DSDA because it's the best ratio of playing like vanilla and still looking nice on modern systems

[vast reef]

but honestly prboom+ is good enough for casual play since most normal players won't need its extra features

[vast reef]

are you a speedrunner or technical player

since honestly if you're neither gzdoom plays accurately enough and ends up being the only port you need

[finite crag]

Not really, no. I just like how it plays nice with everything (not ZDoom requiring) I threw at it
I tried CrispyDoom, DoomRetro, Zandronum and some others, and I decided I like DSDA best

I still mostly play GZDoom because of mods anyway

[vast reef]

configured correctly of course

[unreal gorge]

i thought this too when i finally finished master levels a few years ago AND YET
tnt is somehow a thousand times more dull and tedious. should have been an 8-map campaign at most

[finite crag]

well, now that I finished the ML, I'll give TNT a try soon

[remote cedar]

good luck out there

some maps contains a whopping 300 monsters

and 80% of them are low tier enemies at least

[void hemlock]

Mostly fodder? That seems very off

[finite crag]

honestly I prefer killing a ton of enemies over having to backtrack a million times looking for a key, spending like half an hour per stage

but let me guess, TNT also has a ton of that?

[void hemlock]

If is fodder tho then that’s kinda boring

[remote cedar]

backtracking? not that I remember

still though I prefer Plutonia's approach

not a lot of enemies (about the same amounts as Doom II's enemy count) but they're much stronger

[void hemlock]

At least include barons for some challenge somewhere

[remote cedar]

and there are tons of medikits and ammo

[remote cedar]

it's inconsistent really

iirc MAP06 has some tough monsters like Arachnotrons and Mancubi

[void hemlock]

Is there any notable maps in TNT? I did hear MAP 30 includes that buggy stairbuilder as a neat addition

[remote cedar]

but then MAP08 has mostly hitscanners

[void hemlock]

B o r i n g

Oh

What was that map you could beat in under a minute?

MAP 15?

[remote cedar]

I don't remember

[void hemlock]

The one with the intangible wall that contains a blue key?

[remote cedar]

I think that's MAP06

the one where you travel between two versions of the same area?

it does have that blue gate that you phase through

[void hemlock]

I think? Didnt it contain sewer tunnels?

[remote cedar]

oh nvm I'm thinking of another one then

sewer levels... goddamn

[void hemlock]

Yeah that one map you have to travel on the sewers if you dont find that wall

Where it just gives you the blue key

[ebon pelican]

if you want a source port probably pick Zandronum, GZDoom looks worse than the original fckin DOS release

[void hemlock]

It doesn’t play like the original games either unless settings are modified

[finite crag]

yea tho i don't have the doom games.

[void hemlock]

Once you get them take note of what we’re saying

[finite crag]

i'll buy them later.

[void hemlock]

But for the love of god do not play the original DOS release (don’t torture yourself), and don’t have GZDoom as the starting source port

[pale finch]

psx doom ce is actually great people

[vast reef]

you can use gzdoom, just turn off freelook, jump, and linear filtering

[finite crag]

texture linear filtering FIRST, why is that on by default....

[ebon pelican]

why would you want those ugly ass rounded sprites

[vast reef]

which takes like 2 minutes

to get it close enough for a casual player

[ebon pelican]

zdoom is better real

[pale finch]

can anyone recommend a remap/remaster of the og doom maps?

[vast reef]

unfamiliar trilogy

doom 2 redux

knee-deep in zdoom

maps of chaos

found this thread https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117721-list-of-doom-wad-fan-remakes/

[pale finch]

i saw that too
but it's sad no episode 4's included

[finite crag]

I like maps of chaos

[pale finch]

try doom plus

it's maps of chaos but better

so i'll just go for doom+ and honte then

[finite crag]

oh yeah there's also the PSX maps project, that's another novel way of playing through the original Doom maps

[pale finch]

psx maps project? interesting

[finite crag]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94139-update-v2-psxdoom-psxfinaldoom-doom64-on-gzdoom-gec-master-edition-dec-17-2018/

and I particularly like this other project, to mix them with mods

[pale finch]

thanks

[finite crag]

since the bot didn't let me post the link, search up "PSX Doom Consolation prize"

[pale finch]

i'm conflicted between psx doom ce and plus

[finite crag]

I just tried out doom+ and at least the E1M1 was... exactly the same as the maps of chaos one? what's the difference between the two mods, the fact that they do Sigil too?

Finally finished doom 2

[void hemlock]

nah

Doesnt GZD mess with too much of the core settings within the game as well?

[void hemlock]

ikr so annoying its not “good” anymore

[pale finch]

exactly???

nah there are subtle improvements over the places

like that one lake with the armor pickup, it has a building

it's MoC with added detail

[finite crag]

I see

[thorn vine]

can I use wads in the PC game pass version of the game

[worn crown]

im pretty sure pc gamepass version is just one wad

[pale finch]

nuh uh it has some fan wads as dlc

[autumn galleon]

Are there any wads for the Game Pass version that adds online multiplayer?

[finite crag]

not how wads work

[void hemlock]

Speaking of that

Bethesda, how in HELL did you not add online multiplayer in the 2019 rereleases for Doom 1 and 2? How?

Also for Doom 64 as well, Nightdive I get that it was partially rushed, but come on now it was a PERFECT opportunity to add what Midway originally planned but wasn’t able to

[steel lion]

what was the parameter to put pwads on lzdoom?

[finite crag]

From quick check on DeltaTouch, seems to just be -file

[steel lion]

Thanks

Now i remember

[lavish raft]

Y’all, i want detailed DOOM 1993 maps, with detailed item placement marks and door switches, and enemies

Y’know where i can get some?

[unreal gorge]

The Official Doom Survivors Strategies and Secrets guide, available at a Waldenbooks near you

[zenith berry]

Or just head to the DoomWiki?

I recommend the .org site and not the Fandom-hosted one.

[finite crag]

Useful MondySpartan. Plenty of info there and handy to have

[vast reef]

...no

[void hemlock]

istg I heard Dwars say that

somewhere

[vast reef]

a playthrough of gzdoom and a vanilla accurate port will have zero noticeable difference to a casual

with a good PC of course, since performance is noticeable

[vast reef]

gzdoom fixes up small bugs and inconsistencies and that makes a lot of glitches impossible

what dwars meant is that the core engine is different enough that it's impossible for it to fully replicate vanilla like other ports

[pale finch]

are psx doom's monster stats the exact same to the doom 64 ones

[halcyon willow]

i believe so

[finite crag]

Just having a look at the PSX version of Doom - there are differences (certain enemies are missing, changed due to limits on hardware)

[vast reef]

stats though

[finite crag]

An example of the Zombie man does 24 points of damage compared to 15. Another way is if you can watch this version on YouTube and you should see the difference since there isn't too much on the Doom Wiki page

They say the Jaguar port is similar to the PSX version as well

[vast reef]

oh i see

thank you

[finite crag]

No worries

[zenith berry]

Jaguar port is also the base for all console Doom 1 maps until the original Xbox version.

[finite crag]

Interesting to know. Thx for sharing that bit of Doom info

[zenith berry]

(If it counts, then the lesser known WebTV port, circa 1998, may be the first console port of DOOM to be accurate to the PC version)

[finite crag]

Flashback

It's kind of like running Doom on a Lego brick. But seeing the Wikipedia page of different ports, there have been a lot

[finite crag]

is there any chainsaw man mods i can use for doom classic or doom 2?

[finite crag]

hi peeps! i finally bought doom 2!

[finite crag]

what about brutal doom?

[ebon pelican]

thats more a mod than a source port but its still very cool

[finite crag]

ahh... i see.

[ebon pelican]

you need Zandronum or GZDoom to run it, i would reccomend zandronum obviously

[finite crag]

where do i find it?

zandronum i mean.

[ebon pelican]

https://zandronum.com/download

pretty sure 3.2 is the multiplayer version and 1.4 and such are the normal versions

[finite crag]

oh shit, i got the 3.1 version.

[ebon pelican]

wait shit 3.1 might be the normal version

idk download both of them

ok i got it

where it says downloads

[finite crag]

alr, i'll just play the 3.1 version.

[ebon pelican]

click on the archive core only

i would send an image but i cant

[finite crag]

huh?

[ebon pelican]

under downloads and windows

archive (core only) is the singleplayer version

but the installer bundeled with doomseeker is the multiplayer

[finite crag]

ahh alr.

alr so how do i install it?

alr so extracted it to the doom file.

[ebon pelican]

i forgor

theres instructions on the website i think

[finite crag]

i figured it out i think.

i put it in the doom folder, and extracted it.

[ebon pelican]

and when you install brutal doom i think you drag the pk3 file into the zandronum folder

[finite crag]

wait you needed to make a folder?

[ebon pelican]

and then brutal doom will run when you click on the EXE turned ''zdoom data file''

[ebon pelican]

i extracted the zandronum folder into my Downloads folder

but i dont think other ppl do that

[finite crag]

oh shit.

i extracted the files INTO my doom foledr.

so like, i put hte files on the doom folder.

ig so it would work properly.

[pale finch]

just play vanilla and brutal later

use Universal Map Enhancements tho

[vast reef]

stop saying this

like genuinely

gzdoom is close enough and identical for literally anyone who isn't a speedrunner or technical player

oh wait i already replied to this sorry lmfao

dementia

[lavish raft]

Tbh that mini slayer is better than the one in mighty doom

Anyways do any of y’all know where i can find very detailed maps for DOOM 1993

[vale gyro]

Just open them up in a map editor

Or use the fan wiki (no, not the Fandom one)

[remote cedar]

doomwiki.org supremacy

especially after more and more people are starting to realize how horrible Fandom is to navigate

[vale gyro]

Yeah

I got someone I know who swears that Fandom is perfectly fine and yelled at me for shitting on it

DoomWiki superiority

[elder bramble]

hello im new here i would like some help i cant lauch any mods

[finite crag]

Are you using any Source Port? And on PC/Console?

[elder bramble]

pc and yes

[finite crag]

GZDoom?

[elder bramble]

yes

[finite crag]

And which Mod are you trying to get working?

[elder bramble]

woomy project perterson

[finite crag]

Just looking at it now

[elder bramble]

at the end of the error it sa no save

[finite crag]

It might be due to the Mod itself. Let me check out what needs to be done

[elder bramble]

well no mod works i tried getting a new one but none working

[finite crag]

Doom 1 or Doom 2? Some wads/mods require certain versions (latest version is also needed)

[elder bramble]

doom 2

[finite crag]

There is a Launcher you might have heard about - ZDL. It is a hub for multiple Doom WADS/Mods, allowing users to select without copying/pasting into different folders.
Have you run mods before with the .pk3 file and WAD file?

[elder bramble]

yes

[finite crag]

When I used to play Doom Mods (an example - Brutal Doom), I would create a new Folder in my Games files, then do the following: Create a shortcut for GZDoom, and place the files I needed -- DOOM2.WAD // Brutal.pk3 and extra files that came with the Brutal Doom Wad. Then I needed to setup the GZDoom shortcut with a Parameter

[elder bramble]

im not sure how to how to do that

[finite crag]

It takes a bit. I will send you a link for ZDoom on the Doom Wiki page. Just have a look and go from there.
Now, in the worst case scenario it doesn't work for whatever reason (could be something else), I personally would run through the Steam version of Doom with the Official Addons.
Slowly being added over time with new Mods that are high-ranking/official and all in one section while playing Doom
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Installation_and_execution_of_ZDoom#:~:text=A simple command line window can be shown,add "foobar.wad" after gzdoom.exe on that command line.

If needs be, look on YouTube from IcarusLives -- How To Get Started With Doom Mods, GZDoom and ZDL

[elder bramble]

i know how to mod doom 2

its just i keep gettin errors

[finite crag]

I don't doubt it. That's a tricky one since it should work

[elder bramble]

like it just crashes

[finite crag]

And the WikiPage saves me from explaining since I don't often do Modding. Might be something else underlying. I take it your system has good specs, so that shouldn't be it

[elder bramble]

i can share my screen if it helps

[finite crag]

Sure

[elder bramble]

were can we talk

where is the vc

[finite crag]

Just via messaging. Send a DM and I'll see if I can help

[finite crag]

been playing through Auger;Zenith megawad with some mods, and I have to say, I absolutely recommend the experience.. even if I have many choice words to say about the monster pack I'm running, and how it makes things way harder than they need to be, but I'm still having a ton of fun

I'm running the Vesper weapons pack, very fitting for a Cyberpunk themed wad
and then the SunDamageOmen enemies pack, highlights of which I must say are the extremely LOUD and terrifyingly high DPS chaingunners, and the Revenants with extra fast missiles that also have AoE damage explosions now. Be VERY VERY careful opening monster closets with these, I don't know if I would recommend a Plutonia playthrough with them, unless you're a masochist

[vast reef]

are there any slaughter maps with lore?

[golden needle]

How the hell do I fix realm667 wads with "missing content"

Idfk how to fix them in slade

[finite crag]

Now, this may or may not help but it might be useful if you haven't checked on the ZDoom forum. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=74017 -- A similar situation with loading content that is missing

[urban trench]

The Plutonia Experiment just keeps trolling me. Now I basically expect three revenants and an arch-vile behind every door.

[golden needle]

Thanks

[rotund dew]

finished sunder map 16. what a ride

that exit screen and music is so satisfying after hours of hell

[vast reef]

playing doom 2 with the pandemonium mod on uv-plus (solo net)

got rngcucked at map 11

[vale gyro]

rip

average moment for me on literally any map

I feel your pain

[vast reef]

there's this mofo who takes like 6 point blank bfg shots to kill in the pit

and all of his attacks either two-shot or one-shot me

mods like these should have spawning rules

[hexed escarp]

I need the next episode of sobad sunlust corruption cards

It’s so funny

[stark acorn]

Of course, DOOM II is a trademark of id Software, copyright 1994-95, so don't mess with it. Remember, if you are playing a pirated copy of DOOM II you are going to HELL. Buy it and avoid an eternity with all the other freeloaders.

[exotic warren]

[hexed escarp]

is it just me, or does sigil kinda ask the question of "what if, instead of making the player fight more enemies, we make them fight the same amount of enemies, but in an annoyingly shaped room"

[stark acorn]

running a tightrope: the mod

[unreal gorge]

havent seen that many narrow ledges since dark souls 1

[autumn marsh]

What system did any of yall first play classic doom on?

[opal falcon]

PS5.

[autumn marsh]

My first was on the xbox 360 lol

And ever since i just been fighting hell.

[vast reef]

mobile

gba emulator LMAO

so that's two systems at once

[zenith berry]

Sure, don’t order DOOM. Sit back with your milk and cookies and let the universe go to Hell. Don’t face the onslaught of demons and spectres that await you in The Shores of Hell. Avoid the terrifying confrontations with cacodemons and lost souls that infest Inferno.

[stark acorn]

PC, GZDoom. I'm a newb

[remote cedar]

PC with Zandronum because I downloaded it by mistake through Doomseeker

(before you ask, I did download it for free back then but now I bought it so it's gucci)

[finite crag]

uh, the first time I actually played it was through Brutal Ultimate Freedoom pack from ModDB
I've since played it many more times in several other sourceports and platforms (PC, Mobile, Switch)

[tepid tulip]

I think lately I've been more partial to Zandronum than GZDoom to play stuff

Maybe bc Zandronum feels pretty smooth to use

I have a question for Zandronum, I'm planning to play wads with MBT12 compat, does Zandronum let's you change the compat

Today is Halloween, and Dean Of Doom showed me some interesting Halloween wads so might wanna try Maskim Xul and other wads too

[vast reef]

yeah

it's in options

[tepid tulip]

Okay thanks

[blissful timber]

Who cares. It’s a pretentious wad anyway.

[thorn vine]

my guy I sent that 6 days ago

[halcyon willow]

386

[unreal gorge]

on my parents tandy from radio shack

no wait, i first saw the game at a friend's house who's dad had a NeXt computer. it ran in windowed black and white with no sound but it was still the coolest thing I'd ever seen

[vale gyro]

Mobile, actually. Like pre-Unity Port iirc

Just not the OG version of the mobile ports

[narrow condor]

My cousin's Pentium PC with Windows 98, I guess. Doom was already considered old by then, compared to shiny new games like Quake 3, Unreal Tournament and Soldier of Fortune, so I thought it was boring at the time. It wasn't until much later that I played it again on GZDoom for the fan-made maps, some time in mid-2010s.

I remember I found the fact that the item sprites are always facing you to be hilarious.

[chrome swift]

Does anyone on here know how Plutonia did its invisible bridges?

[narrow condor]

Aren't they just textureless sectors?

[remote cedar]

I don't think that's the case to be fair

Textureless sectors would cause artifacts to appear in their area

I would rather think, without opening the map in Doom Builder, that they're just a bunch of linedefs bundled together and made as transparent as possible

[stark acorn]

hey was doom mobile taken off the play store or something

[hexed escarp]

No it's not that

Ive looked in editor and it's some weird glitchy sector

I don't really know how it works

But you can open maps 2 and 3 to inspect them

[hexed escarp]

I'd recommend just looking at them in the editor

[hexed escarp]

Actually I just looked it up, and the way they did it is they made there be a sector that's the height of the bridge, and then they set the linedefs of it to reference that sector for both sides of each line making the game bug out and make the sector invisible

[hasty dew]

https://youtu.be/cJ3hYdxWELs

[vast reef]

NEED TO PLAY THIS

digging the punk rock jesus thumbnail too btw

[unreal gorge]

it says it's not compatible with newer androids 😞

[stark acorn]

aw man probably a similar situation to geometry dash

[stark acorn]

but GD is getting updated soon to the new API idk about Doom

[finite crag]

Outback Anarchy is really cool

also, I have to give it to you guys, I'm at stage 6 of TNT and I am not enjoying myself

[stark acorn]

yeah ive heard tnt is bad

ive only really played the first map so idk might torture myself in the future

[gusty falcon]

Found something quite precious

https://youtu.be/hccfyddset8?si=cta3zPWiAe7qMxE2

It took awhile for me to realize but the main gameplay actually being shown to the viewer I'm pretty sure is penny's screen

[craggy wharf]

i get all the hate for archviles now, i get it

[remote sigil]

pc of course

via the rerelease on steam

i would play 3 of the episodes in doom 1 and the first couple levels on doom 2 like that

and then i switched over to gzdoom

[sharp thicket]

I just finished first chapter of Doom 1993 , tomorrow I finish all ,and start 64 or maybe Doom 2 again ,classic it's a master piece

Got all today at sale ,but Eternal and Doom 2 I had those already. ,very good deal for 11$ I guess it was.

[gusty falcon]

Android with delta touch

[sharp thicket]

Wich one did you played first on Xbox?

I played first on PC the 1993 Doom in 1998 or 1999 can't remember for sure and after I played Duke🤣😂

[pale finch]

ay, don't rush it, you're gonna get hit by the Thy Flesh Consumed's near insane difficulity curve

[sharp thicket]

@pale finch 👍👍not gonna rush 😛 I l play it casually 2-3 h a day maybe 4 :))) thx for the advice

[pale finch]

also, you can play sigil

romero's fifth episode

aka unofficially official interquel

[void hemlock]

interquel, now that’s a new -quel word I learned

[zenith berry]

Semi official due to how it’s on Bethesda’s set of curated DOOM add-ons.

[gilded glade]

Bro I just played a modded playthrough it was crazy I think the mods name was umm moonman or something like that

[finite crag]

This may sound like a dumb question but is it cheating to use widescreen in the og doom?

[vast reef]

no lmfaoo

if that's cheating then all the cs:go hypersweats with their big-ass monitors are also cheating

[finite crag]

me in ultraviolence iddqd

[stark acorn]

eh most high elo players game on 4:3 which is kinda handicapping yourself

idk about bigger monitors as in physically larger

i think 24-27 is meta

[vast reef]

tbh all ik from csgo is from lurking in discussions abt it lmao

[stark acorn]

hah i used to grind csgo but now i stopped caring entirely

doom better

[zenith berry]

not to forget Classic DOOM is widescreen by default in the Unity port.

[pale finch]

Sigil 2's out December 10

[stark acorn]

holy i need to beat 1 before that

[hexed escarp]

Depends on your definition of cheating

If you define cheating as "you cannot use any features not present in the original dos version of the game whatsoever" then yeah

Otherwise, no

[sick mist]

Lower your FOV to match what you would see in 4:3
problem solved

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[finite crag]

doom 2 also didnt have widescreen did it

[vast reef]

didn't romero have a 16:9 monitor

was he cheating

[hexed escarp]

The dos version couldn't do widescreen

That was only added in source ports

[vast reef]

wonder if romero or any of the id guys used source ports in the 90s

he uses doomsday n shiz on his gameplay streams

[void hemlock]

REALLY?

[spice radish]

idk how he uses that port. It looks terrible but hey guess if it works it works

the 3d models are atrocious though

[pale finch]

the preorders for the box sets already opened

[vale gyro]

Can you buy from America or nah?

[void bluff]

is anyone up for doom 2 deathmatch

[hoary narwhal]

not sure if im asking the right group of people but i was wondering what even allows people to run doom on like almost anything and also possibly what parts

[finite crag]

It's just code mixed with various mechinalical parts

but mainly just code

I presume they wire it to a pc run a bunch of code that allows it to run the program and then play doom on whatever they want

[hoary narwhal]

oh because i got this awful offbrand handheld gameboy looking thing for the single purpose of to see if my dumbass can get it to run doom

[finite crag]

good idea

maybe look for a tutorial somewhere

[hoary narwhal]

ill try that, thanks lol

[finite crag]

it's the easy way out

[hoary narwhal]

just looked and there was barely anything about how to do it and if there was anything about it, it was how it runs on like a toaster

[finite crag]

dam

it's probably done through the process of feeding code

[hoary narwhal]

this is probably going to be a long dumb process

[finite crag]

maybe

[stark acorn]

doom engine is open source

meaning that you can just go and look at how everything works

https://github.com/id-Software/DOOM

and naturally, re-code it to anything you want

or just clean some things up to allow it to work on weird devices, it's just almost all C code after all

[autumn galleon]

The fact someone ported it to a McDonald's computer is amazing.
"Can I have a #1 large with a coke please?"
"Hold on a sec! I'll take your order as soon as I blast those demons!"

[stark acorn]

mcdonalds sprite is made out of the soulsphere

[hoary narwhal]

and the fact that someone ran it on a pregnancy test

[strong plaza]

To celebrate DOOM's 30th Anniversary. Join John Romero and John Carmack to discuss DOOM live, moderated by David L. Craddock! 🤘

Dec 10 8pm GMT on https://twitch.tv/theromero

[finite crag]

yo when I want to do a cheat in the console it says sv_cheats must be true to enable this command

how can I fix this?

[stark acorn]

sv_cheats 1

if my source knowledge translates, some commands are locked behind sv_cheats

[finite crag]

yea and how can I fix this?

[gusty falcon]

Sooo sigil 2 has pre orders I'm guessing that means it's done

[finite crag]

I did it thanks

[stark acorn]

no real way to fix this, developers decide which commands are locked behind sv_cheats and which are not

i doubt it really does anything though

[finite crag]

is there any command to spawn specific demons?

[halcyon willow]

"Summon actorname"

In the console

[finite crag]

thanks

command to give myself a weapon? (sorry if its annoying)

[vale gyro]

I’d say just use the cheat code for all weapons and keys

IDKFA

[halcyon willow]

so 'summon' will spawn the thing infront of you

if you want a weapon then you can use 'give'

'give supershotgun'

'give rocketlauncher'

etc

or as penguin said, you can use the give weapons cheat

'IDFA' gives all weapons and max ammo, but no keys

[tepid tulip]

Can't believe it's been 30 years since Doom came out

[unreal gorge]

man i think mount pain in tnt might be longer than black tower in matter levels. when does this torment end

IT ENDED

[gusty falcon]

i did not think id see the day where i can't easily zoom through episode 1 but having to learn keyboard and mouse since i do not have a working controller... has done that

i can definitely aim faster but i dont think i'll ever get used to having to lift the mouse mid turn (even on higher sensitity levels though i need to be careful of how high i set it because too high is nausiating and disorienting.) then there's the fact that im a lefty so my mapping set up is atleast to me quite strange

[vale gyro]

You’d get used to it

Play how you’d like but I’d say learn it just in case your controller dies on ya in any way again

Keyboard only could maybe help a bit but that’s just a guess

[gusty falcon]

I've tried keyboard and i thought It was my salvation movement felt so natural and my hands could coordinate properly and I was wheeling my mappings to being more like a controller until i hit a road block

I wanted to have primary and secondary fire on the shift keys so I could fire whilst not taking my fingers off of movement and turning but doom does not let you nap then independently as left end right shift they're both treated as just shift

[vale gyro]

My brain is fucked rn

When did doom weapons have secondary fire?!

[gusty falcon]

Mods

I play alot of mods

[vale gyro]

oh.

Why I didn’t assume that is beyond me

I’d say just put it close to the shift key

Like caps lock or something

[gusty falcon]

I can definitely give that a try

[vale gyro]

Wouldn’t be perfect but it wouldn’t be far off

I need to actually finish Sigil now that Sigil 2 is coming out

Guess I’ll do it tomorrow

Now on mouse and keyboard and not keyboard only on a slow laptop

It’ll make things 200 times easier for me

[gusty falcon]

im probably going to go back to using keybooard and mouse myself since its not pefect but its comfortable

though my choice of movment keys are abit odd

P = forward
; = back
L = Strafe left
' = Strafe right

that was after i tried number pad keys and the arrow keys

[vast reef]

use sharpkeys to turn right shift into something like the u key and bind it to that instead

also does anybody have ideas for something neat i can make for doom's 30th anniversary

[high orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-twerk-gif-25604234

[vale gyro]

A ‘never ending’ E1M1

[vast reef]

ok thats a really good idea

[stark acorn]

randoom, doom that is randomly generated and never ends

[vale gyro]

The name is fucking genius ngl

[stark acorn]

thanks

i might make it

[vale gyro]

I’m probably gonna try to make a half decent looking map with just base textures

I doubt I will be able to as I already don’t have much experience with Doom mapping

But I got nothing better to do so..

[stark acorn]

chubzdoomer binging session

[vale gyro]

Yep

[chrome swift]

Could you send a link of the page you found that says this, or what you looked up for the result?

[hexed escarp]

i literally just looked up plutonia invisible bridge and clicked on the first result

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/59137-how-to-make-an-invisible-bridge-in-an-doom-wad/

[chrome swift]

I'm just bad at searching for things then :I

Thanks

[craggy wharf]

CHES QUEST

[woven wasp]

Just updated this mapset of mine, any feedback would be really appreciated
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132011-gregs-gargantuan-gadventure-of-glory-gaffes-and-garbage-v040-better-a-month-late-than-never-i-guess/

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613822982627786836/1141889703218511993/map07screenshot1.png?ex=6556b228&is=65443d28&hm=6a28aa5bc95c5bc2f0967f48dc6d21096efda00e2cd35955fd86428fb016644b&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613822982627786836/1141889703600205955/map07screenshot2.png?ex=6556b228&is=65443d28&hm=e094d3a40425e4478ddf6eb12adf628aadb6a8174e4b45e5d0dd0f41493e03c6&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613822982627786836/1141889703969308672/map07screenshot3.png?ex=6556b228&is=65443d28&hm=83d75212fc0115a12dbf219f2459fed87be139c372d10a06401c95983276abb5&

[vast reef]

👍

[finite crag]

I only just found out that the cacodemon was based on the Astral Dreadnaught on the cover of Manual of The Planes

Very cool

[unreal gorge]

there's even a line about his missing body in doom eternal iirc

[vale gyro]

ok, I started on this

within an hour got to E5M5, the map I stopped on

-and I see why I quit after that...

[hexed escarp]

Do you mean e5m6?

[vale gyro]

yeah, my bad

now on E5M7

[hexed escarp]

Nice

[vale gyro]

just gotta finish that at some point and then M8

[hexed escarp]

I finished my uv playthrough of that the other day

[vale gyro]

I’m kinda save scumming though (per map saves)

wouldn’t be able to finish it otherwise tbh

[hexed escarp]

Nothing wrong with that

Play how you want to

[vast reef]

savescumming is valid ❤️

[vale gyro]

currently working on that map

thinking of docking with a space station and you'll need to interact with 4 terminals or something to finish the level

[azure nimbus]

legally based on

[remote cedar]

Define savescumming?

[stark acorn]

save > die > load > win

[vast reef]

honestly limiting saves is the best way to wean yourself off savescumming

measure how many times you usually save in a level

limit yourself to a number slightly lower than that

from then on it's just progressive overload

[stark acorn]

i never save

gzdoom saves for me every level so

[vale gyro]

I save per map or per fight depending on how hard the wad is for me pretty much

[stark acorn]

for some reason i always forget that cacos fly in og dooms

[vast reef]

lolwut

[stark acorn]

i mean hover

[remote cedar]

Depending on the map I'll save more or less

TNT had me save like a dozen times once

[sharp coral]

Anyone here ever play Bloodstain?

[ebon pelican]

i did some epic doom modding with whacked4

i removed the stupid raise sprite for the plasma rifle

and made the pistol run on cells

[stark acorn]

sir thats illegal

[ebon pelican]

hehehe

can't stop me

[vale gyro]

Sir that is a felony

[stark acorn]

sir you will go to hell with all of the freeloaders that did not purchase a doom II license

[narrow condor]

What's next? Turning down the plasma gun's volume?

Unthinkable.

[stark acorn]

i actually love how loud plasma gun is

feels as powerful as it really is

[vale gyro]

What’s next?

Making the SSG fire the standard shotgun and deleting its sound effects?!

I forgot

Making the Arachnotron fire rockets

[stark acorn]

would be so good if there was a weapon that would deal twice the damage of the shotgun but would eat two shells. i know its a weird concept but it might be cool idk. id call it something like "super shotgun"

[azure nimbus]

almost thrice the damage.. ssg shoots 20 pellets. sg shoots 7

[sharp thicket]

Guys is there any way to play classic ,2 or 64 online co-op?

[vale gyro]

64 never had online to begin with

but for 1 and 2, you can use Zandronum and Doomseeker

[sharp thicket]

@vale gyro I m on Nintendo switch

[vale gyro]

well

can't help you there

You can't do online whatsoever with console and mobile versions

[sharp thicket]

I have them on laptop 2 ,but there is no option for multiplayer

[vale gyro]

that's where those two come in

among other options

but yeah, for consoles

[sharp thicket]

I understand,I appreciate the help , but I don't have any option for multiplayer for 64 for example,for 1-2 only lan option

[vale gyro]

you really can't do anything

[sharp thicket]

I got you bro ,but on my laptop I meab

Mean*

[vale gyro]

basically

Zandronum is a source port

you download it and shove the WAD file into the same directory

with Doomseeker also installed, you can browse (and if I'm correct host) servers and well, join 'em

[halcyon willow]

Hosting is done through services like TSPG

[vale gyro]

I can't exactly help you with install instructions as I have only installed it once in my life so ain't fresh in my mind

[sharp thicket]

@vale gyro no problem I really appreciate the help

@halcyon willow 👍

I never played moded anyway,I will try mods first ,hope I can mod on Nintendo switch,I enjoy more to play the console

Or 2016 multiplayer,maybe

Eternal I don't have ob switch yet because it's rly chaos 🤣😂

[vale gyro]

iirc there is the addons section of the Switch port with some WADs

[sharp thicket]

To fast phased for console

[vale gyro]

if you want to do heavy modding you need a ZDoom-based port (primarily GZDoom)

[sharp thicket]

Iirc,I don't know that shortcut ,I will check YouTube maybe I can find something and it's not so hard to manage because I rly suck at technology

[vale gyro]

but for most things you'll be good with something like PrBoom+ or Woof

or limit-removing source ports like Crispy if you don't need anything that MBF or Boom provides

[vale gyro]

which exactly? The addon thing or my rambling with source ports sphiel

[sharp thicket]

@vale gyro my friend you talking alien for me ,I don't know any of those are/mean ,I really do appreciate your time but you get what I mean 😛

And my english ain't too notch either

[vale gyro]

it's pretty good ngl

[sharp thicket]

@vale gyro I will check YouTube,and maybe what you told me will help me somehow,sorry for bothering!

[vale gyro]

oh you're fine, no bother

[vale gyro]

did a funny

now made a dehacked that keeps blood splatters

so the floor gets littered in blood pools

[zenith berry]

Doom 4 Vanilla did that, right?

[vale gyro]

not sure

never used Doom 4 Vanilla

but I am kinda surprised Crispy Doom actually converted the color of the blood puddle over to a colorized version for Cacos and Hell Knights/Barons of Hell

expected it to only convert the blood splatter and not the puddle I put into it

yeah

Doom 4 Vanilla does it apparently

[cosmic pagoda]

Dario is now doing HL commentary

thinking about it he did a lot less of Casali shenanigans in HL than in plutonia and tnt

[sharp veldt]

well you kinda can't put a 300 alien soldiers and hide them behind a door or something back in 1998

[stark acorn]

Well... you could

good luck running the game though!

[zenith berry]

I think Marphy Black tried recreating NUTS in Half-Life.

The end results? Some if not most of the monsters don’t appear.

[stark acorn]

ah, half life

[coarse cape]

Into sandy’s city is the best classic doom track

[stark acorn]

i love kitchen ace

[mellow matrix]

I, too, have played Dark Dome from Alien Vendetta

[remote cedar]

same. it's my favorite track in all of Doom

Transistor Fist is also good (because it references Kitchen Ace) but it simply doesn't hit as hard if you haven't listened to Kitchen Ace beforehand

[coarse cape]

what?

[mellow matrix]

It uses that track to excellent effect

[halcyon willow]

it's also a sick map

[stark acorn]

ye true i love transistor fist too

[spice radish]

Glad to see the Transistor Fist love

[stark acorn]

let's gooo

[vast reef]

trans sister fizz

[finite crag]

do you guys now how to setup the novert file in the og dos box doom?

[hexed escarp]

put it in the folder with the doom executable and wad

and then before launching the doom exe, simply run novert.com before running doom2.exe

[pale finch]

just learned about the 3do doom dev cycle

holy crap bless becky for surviving that

[hexed escarp]

yeah thats such a crazy story

and its full of so many plot twists

[errant tree]

Guys

I need your help

What do I do if I get the error that the songs were not downloaded in delta touch?

[west minnow]

Does anyone have the texture files for the dead simple map?
I'm trying to make a 3d diorama of the map

[remote cedar]

You can find the game's textures with a WAD file explorer such as SLADE 3

[royal canopy]

Folks, what am I doing in this room?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/181464612045193216/1172564591042117752/image.png?ex=6560c6df&is=654e51df&hm=4afa510fa435cb70c1d489e5dc52c06358250ca55fe1822c91dd287fd556e247&

[polar mesa]

getting out, hopefully

[royal canopy]

is there a hidden door?

[polar mesa]

see anything weird or different in the room

[royal canopy]

there's only one wall that doesn't grunt at me when I hit space

No enemies in here, I'm just stuck

[polar mesa]

now you got me wondering if I'm misremembering how this room works

[royal canopy]

no worries I'll try again later

[polar mesa]

at least one of these candles should mark a secret wall

which map is this again

[royal canopy]

it's like the 5th one on inferno

[polar mesa]

ok it's e3m6, let me take a look

ok both of the walls with the candles should just.... open normally when you interact with them

[stark acorn]

standing here, realizing

[polar mesa]

this shouldn't be a problem, but which port are you using

[royal canopy]

ok it worked

[polar mesa]

anyway those are literally just weirdly shaped doors with no door texture

[west minnow]

im not quite sure how to do that

[visual star]

official unity port most likely

it looks like the unity port

yeah its definitely the unity port

[sour ice]

Only Cacodemon fans can react

[unreal gorge]

[west minnow]

Does anyone have the straight up files for textures in dead simple map?
I can't get them as I play doom on mobile

[stark acorn]

who isn't a caco fan

[urban trench]

Yesterday finished Go 2 It. It's not the worst, just takes a lot of time.

[remote cedar]

I haven't gotten to that one yet but I might soon

I'm currently stuck on MAP15 which means when I beat it I'll get to MAP31 then MAP32

Which means I will Go 2 It and I might Die 4 It

[halcyon willow]

Go 2 It

[formal knot]

Anyone good with doom 2 modding?

I would ask this in the gzdoom discord but I can join it for some reason

[stark acorn]

ive.. done stuff

theres a dedicated modding chat tho

#classic-doom-maps-mods

[formal knot]

Ohh I didn’t notice thanks lol

[finite crag]

Help, I'm stuck in E1M6, I can't find 2 Items that I need to get 100% 😿

[indigo summit]

Hi slayers! I’m new to this discord!

[autumn marsh]

Anyone wanna play some doom on playstation (shareplay)

Cuz im pretty sure it would work

[void hemlock]

well unfortunately for all I know is that you will need to look at the textures using the WAD on Slade on PC, and indentify which textures were used

[void hemlock]

all I can say is just keep looking

[visual star]

ps1 port?

[autumn marsh]

Ps4