classic-doom

[ornate vortex]

it saves a lot of time in some cases

[ruby crater]

And ammo

[ornate vortex]

tlm map 6 has you plasma everything and that on average takes like 2:35 if going as fast as possible. But with infighting you can reach sub 2:30

[ruby crater]

Need to find a reliable way to make infighting happen in parts of Fire and Ice of Scythe 1

Haven’t beaten that level to this day

[ruby crater]

What is TLM?

[ornate vortex]

The lost magic

it’s a pretty good megawad

[ruby crater]

I’ll check it out then. Always love good doom content

[ornate vortex]

I’m looking at ancalagon’s strat for rush map 12 to see if anything could help

and i’ve realised maybe I should use the bfg more in the furnace room

[ruby crater]

I’m sure you’ll figure it out soon. Best of luck to ya

[ornate vortex]

thanks

it’s the hardest map i’ve challenged myself to so far (There was also Comatose but that was a different kind of challenge)

[ruby crater]

Hardest map you’ve tried UV-maxing? Or just played in general?

[radiant condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/981385825113759807/1113550854587416707/image.png

obsidian wtf

[ornate vortex]

tried uv-maxing

I also died at the final fight again FUCK

143 attempts in

I got to the red key fight and I fucked up, I took the soulsphere when I wasn't supposed to

[ruby crater]

Makes me think of everytime I blasted myself in the face with a rocketlauncher against all the Cacodemons in Map02 of Italo when the level opens up initially. I did that map at like 6am and kept saying "Fuck!"

UV-maxing sounds like a fun time tho if you find a level you really wanna do it on

[ornate lantern]

i need the wad for no rest for the living

this is the only reason im here

[ornate vortex]

I'm pretty sure it's free on the internet

it's called nerve.wad

might have to correct me on that one

maybe the steam version has it

idk, that's where I got it from

[ornate lantern]

i've been looking around for it, there's no download for the wad file

closest i've found is a link to one, but the website they uploaded the file to got bought out and now it's some random European buzzfeed clone

i litterally just need the wad file

also im trying to find out how to get Plutonia on GZDoom

[ornate lantern]

ok i found the wad for Plutonia

NRftL still evades me

might have found it

yeah alright i got it

cya guys

[radiant condor]

nope you got it

[radiant condor]

it's on archive.org

not sharing the link as I don't know if it's violating any rules but yeah

[royal heron]

NRFTL is paid, no?

[dense plinth]

You get it with Doom 3

In the BFG edition of Doom 2

[cerulean delta]

I’m back here after a few years, MyHouse.wad has gotten me interested in Doom mods again. Decided to go back through the classic MegaWADs.

And yeah, it’s good to remember how much is possible in Doom.

So far, I’ve remembered how much I liked Perdition’s Gate and some of the other 90’s MegaWADs.

Anyone got any good recommendations for MegaWADs?

[finite crag]

plutonia

[cerulean delta]

I mean yeah

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1024675281648222260/1113462637150351410/image0.jpg

[finite crag]

thank you casali 🙏

[cerulean delta]

Also what’s it gonna take for this level to get an official re-release

https://youtu.be/vNpho45LnhE

[finite crag]

my favorite song in psx doom (it's actual music and not ambience)

[hexed escarp]

Is there any reason to use eternity engine for mapping?

It seems like it just has the exact same features as zdoom (not gzdoom) minus 3d floors and physical slopes

Although it has visual only slopes and you can fake 3d floors with portals

[nocturne dove]

Not entirely sure if this would be the right place, but could I get some help with setting up a basic lan server? Tried hosting a vanilla DM game with both zdl and doomseeker (running Zandronum) and on the machine running the server I can join just fine. However, on my second computer connecting through doomseeker, it gets stuck in a loop of the console reading "Connecting to xxx.xxx.x.xxx:10666" and nothing happening.
I can still connect to others servers on both, so I have no idea where the issue is.

[zenith berry]

Different story in MyHouse.wad

You either get a closet, or you get a random dark non-Euclidean series of hallways

[zenith berry]

I wish the PSX port gets an official re-release.

[pearl plume]

Everyone I have decided this very moment that I am about to learn how to make doom maps

[opal falcon]

Okay.

Good luck.

[pearl plume]

I had this idea of remaking classic doom levels with a run down aesthetic. It would start out normal until you start finding new busted pathways that lead to areas unseen in the original map. Like for example you’d make it to the zig zag bridge room and instead of going to the finish, you’d have to go through a broken wall leading to new rooms.

Since I’m into pixel art I thought I’d also try and give the monsters their own look as well. I was thinking about having them look battle damaged and injured. Exposed ribcages and skeletal arms and all that.

Might be getting a bit too ambitious for someone who’s never made a map before but I have big ideas and by god I am going to make those ideas a reality

[finite crag]

I had an idea kinda like that
Or that it would expand on the levels and make them bigger I guess

Adding new areas that weren't there before and stuff like that

[ornate vortex]

If you get the unity version of doom, you can get NRFTL for free

like you can download it on the unity port and then extract the wad

back on the grind for rush map 12, I feel as if i'm getting close to beating it

what screwed me over last time was the fact I accidentally picked up the supercharge I needed for later on, which led me to have not much health at a certain point. Then I was blocked by viles which zapped me to death

[atomic dust]

and also the unity version

[ornate vortex]

Got to the end twice and died

I'm really starting to lose it icl

[dense plinth]

dammit, I have 99% kills on house of pain

and I have no idea where the last guy could be

it's probably a lost soul somewhere

[cerulean delta]

Best we’ve got now is PSX Doom CE, which is still pretty good

[ornate vortex]

gz counts lost souls to the kill count?

[dense plinth]

I was playing Chocolate

[ornate vortex]

oh

[dense plinth]

yeah

[ornate vortex]

chocolate doom does that?

[dense plinth]

I guess idk, I wasn't sure what enemy it was

[ornate vortex]

i thought it was only gz

[dense plinth]

I went up and back the level like 5 times and in every room

and didn't find anything

didn't hear anything either

but I expect lost souls to be counted in Doom 1 anyway

since there isn't a pain elemental to just keep spawning them so they're purposefully placed on the map

I may be wrong though

[split jewel]

psydoom too

[finite crag]

yeah not if i get to it before you

get to work

[pearl plume]

Honestly I hope you do

I just wanna see my vision made whether it’s my my own hand or someone else’s

By*

[finite crag]

ngl, DOOM 2 no end in sight is brutal towards the last 2 episodes

playing rn

[atomic dust]

is it just me, or is ammo kinda rare in Ultimate Doom?

I find myself being low on ammo for most of the non-shotgun weapons very often

[finite crag]

It gets worse with DOOM 2 WADS

and that is all i've been playing for the week, besides Trove

Chaingun eats ammo, plus the pistol is good for 2 lost souls and a couple of fodder

anything more a chain gun is needed

[junior karma]

doesn't really eat ammo since there's no enemy that dies in 1 pistol shot, so at most you lose 1 bullet per enemy due to the chaingun's minimum 2 bullets per shot

[finite crag]

talking about the chaingun spread, it can eat ammo

pistol is more precise if you tap it

[junior karma]

yeah but that's only if you hold fire, if you tap the chain gun it has the same accuracy as a pistol

which is where the pistol becomes redundant

[finite crag]

woah

is that fact??

[junior karma]

yes: https://youtu.be/GLeMj-OYV1c?t=600

[vast reef]

yes

[finite crag]

swear, Decino is one of the best DOOM content creators out there

i guess your right then

[warped wind]

The guy defeated John Romero in a 1v1 at Doom II's map 01.

[finite crag]

never even seen that

link it for me

[vast reef]

that's not even his best feat

[warped wind]

He is probably one of the only people to actually win the game, by killing John uncle

[warped wind]

He has two more, yeah

https://tenor.com/view/clarkvandyer-feet-happy-chill-gif-17640590

[warped wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8notLsKz4

[finite crag]

thank

[warped wind]

wel

[junior karma]

in fairness romero is about 30 years decino's senior and didn't start playing doom with a mouse - still prefers using keyboard

[finite crag]

I was the same way, always playing keyboard, a guy showed me a mouse is a valuable asset

although, i do miss the times i was playing with keyboard

[junior karma]

yeah the default keys don't lend themselves well to the mouse, there's no way to disable forward & back mouse movement for example in vanilla doom, and strafe is bound to a single modifier key

[finite crag]

I play this shit in school bruh, fuck education 😂

I got a couple of source ports though if i wanna change the flavor a lil bit

[cerulean delta]

What’s people’s thoughts on Hacx? Personally I think it’s cool now but it was very dated upon release. Anyone else play it?

[warped wind]

Still a nice thing to brag about hehe
Johnny uncle also played doom eternal. He didn't play too well, but it was nice seeing him play. Also, yeah he punched every wall he saw.

[atomic dust]

finished episode 2 on my xbox 360

they Cyberdemon fight is still a classic

the xbox 360 ports of Classic Doom games are probably the best ports of the games

they are essentially the pc versions but on console, they play well, have achievements and the Doom II port introduced a certain awesome episode

[zenith berry]

PsyDoom is if you’re looking for the most native experience. Closest we can get for an official re-release.

[junior karma]

I think it's more iconic than anything, I doubt he sees this as a big achievement considering the difficult wads that he's beaten (italo doom, no chance, etc.)

[proud mortar]

Which add on is good

[finite crag]

have you played no end in sight?

or sigil?

[proud mortar]

Yes neis but not sigil

[finite crag]

play sigil

[proud mortar]

Ok

[finite crag]

right now

[proud mortar]

No

I play syringe first

I already started

[finite crag]

okay, finish that, i recommend using the unity DOOM 2 to add the addons

there are a fuckton to play through

[proud mortar]

I play ps4 doom

[finite crag]

i believe it still works the same

thats unity DOOM, you know where to find addons

[cerulean delta]

Also idk if the modder who made The Darkening is still around, episodes 1 and 2 are top tier tho and they deserve more recognition

Same with Memento Mori, Hell Revealed, and Perdition’s Gate (to a lesser extent)

[cerulean delta]

Yeah, exact same port as PC. Only difference is that PC also supports adding your own custom maps.

It’s a limit removing port with DeHackEd support.

[finite crag]

Till this day, i'm suprised I dont know what that is.

[cerulean delta]

“Limit Removing” = increases or removes limits of vanilla Doom, such as number of enemies, number of monsters, which levels can have exits to secret levels, etc.

“DeHackEd” = edits to the original Doom executable allowing for things like custom enemies and weapons

I was just gonna post the Wikipedia article for DeHackEd but the Vega bot griped at me

[finite crag]

thank

[lime badger]

doom 1 on sega 32x is one of the best ports, fight me

[ruby crater]

Magenta Spire is a bit newer, two episodes. Good gameplay and fuckery.

Elementalism also got a 1.0 release recently.

Those are two solid recommendations if you’re just coming back

I personally love how in MagSpire, picking up a new weapon under 20% health makes Doomguy look batshit insane for a brief moment because he’s so close to death.

I love the visual cue of being so close to death it makes you lose grip on your sanity

[atomic dust]

I feel like pretty much every 90s Classic Doom console port that isn’t the ps1 port is considered mediocre at best

[cerulean delta]

There’s the Jaguar port

[ornate vortex]

159 attempts currently

for rush map 12

[lucid trellis]

Oi mates I know this may seem bad but where do I find the Moonman mod

[lucid trellis]

Ok now I’ve found the mod

[lucid trellis]

Oi mates could you please help with finding a specific Wad?

[ornate vortex]

I have now gotten to the final fight 9 times and have died

I'm on 169 attempts and I wanna get this run done tomorrow, I might not actually be able to get it done within the timeframe seeing as I keep dying at the end

it's not even due to strategy, half of the time my nerves spike and my stupidity becomes high

[vast reef]

what wad

[hexed escarp]

Is eternity engine vanilla demo compatible or mbf demo compatible?

[finite crag]

people use eternity engine?

[hexed escarp]

Idk

[vast reef]

mordeth and heartland

[hexed escarp]

I just find it slightly interesting bc it boasts most of the features of zdoom but from what I can tell doesn’t come with any of the compatibility breaking changes, but I may be wrong on that

[vast reef]

legit?

[hexed escarp]

I was asking about the compatibility thing bc I’m not sure but in terms of the zdoom features part, yeah

Keep in mind that I’m talking zdoom, not gzdoom

But the only major things that zdoom has over it are full 3d floors (although eternity has 3d middle textures and you can fake 3d floors using floor and ceiling portals) and slopes (there are render only slopes in eternity but they don’t have slope physics)

This doesn’t mean it can play zdoom wads/mods, it just means it has equivalent features

[hexed escarp]

And from what I can tell looking online yeah it seems to have at least near perfect demo compat

Eternity seems like it would be really fun to map with tho

[ornate vortex]

can't wait to spend the whole day grinding rush map 12 💀

I desperately wanna release the demo tomorrow so idrc what time I get at this point, i'm just looking to beat the map as quickly as I can

So at the rate i'm going, i'll probs do it in just over 30 mins

[ornate vortex]

I did it again

11 times now

[proud mortar]

I beat tricks and traps with a pistol start lol

[ornate vortex]

12 times

I got absolutely massacred in the final revenant fight

[ornate vortex]

I now have a new strat on getting out of the fight, and it's now made it 75% of survival instead of like 65%

I have a feeling this may be the final push, I can maybe get this run done today

[velvet tusk]

Hello buggers from hell

Your all wanka’s from hell you mole from north Korea

[proud mortar]

?

[warped wind]

Woah. I am playing that wad no matter what.

[atomic dust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Lxh4z2bp8

I played Ultimate Doom quite a few times and still get lost in this level

[finite crag]

episode 3 😭

best to worst imo is like 1 4 2 3

[ornate vortex]

honestly, i agree with this

[finite crag]

episode 2 i really like because the levels are fast

or you can like
skip/glitch lots

also e4m1
no matter how bullshit difficult it might be
it's still good imo

[remote cedar]

E4M1 is difficult but it's not bullshit unless you go for 100%

The scarcity of ammo in E4M1 is insane

[finite crag]

really?

i found there to be enough, only health is the issue for me

like yeah you need secrets in e4m1 for killing anything but
Still

[remote cedar]

It's barely enough

I finished E4M1 UV max with like 1 rocket and 5 shells

[finite crag]

good enough

e4m2 is pain and it's just cause there's nowhere to move

[remote cedar]

Honestly I haven't found E4M2 to be that difficult

[finite crag]

even that's easy sorta cause key skip ig

[remote cedar]

I didn't even do key skip

[ornate vortex]

Shores of Hell is that high?

and also I would put sigil as the best if it counted

e2m2 is pretty good

but e2m6?

[finite crag]

is 5 sigil?
i don't like it so much

like there are parts that are so dark it's just not fun

also i prefer american mcgee levels

not really
i like to see my game

that's me personally

i also think it ends kinda weak too

my bad opinion is mcgee > romero

i have only bad opinions in doom so

i didn't like it so much

but that's just me ig

i mean
my favorite wad is nerve.wad

nrftl

i love it personally

OH IT'S SOOOOO GOOOD

PLAY IT YOU NEED TO

WAIT
NO PLUTONIA EITHER?
OH IT'S A MUST PLAY

plutonia is hard but at least it made me better at doom

i see

well then it'll be easy for you

[zenith berry]

GZDoom has a VR mod. Anybody up for a challenge of MyHouse.wad on VR?

[royal heron]

can't you just turn up your gamma

[dapper flint]

Gamma radiation is bad for you

[finite crag]

if i need to turn up the brightness in order to enjoy the game that's kinda bad 😭

[dapper flint]

There's nothing in the game that's that dark. Somethings funky with your settings

[ruby crater]

I only accidentally stumbled into magspire, and I’m glad I did. Lemme know what you think after you finish a few levels. The wad has a number of gameplay changes to enemies that are really cool. Every imp shoots hell knight boogers, for one thing

[glass topaz]

after playing myhouse.wad i cant hear the map01 (Running from evil) soundtrack from doom2 in the same way xd

[ornate vortex]

I died basically after acing the map 12 fight

i’m so done with this

i was extremely close

It wasn't the very end that got me

I cleared out all the revenants

and as I was going to pick up health, a sniper enemy shelled me

i got very unlucky

If I had got to that supercharge

it would have been gg

All I had to do was clean up

and then run to the exit

yep

it was part of the clean up process

it was in the final arena, I had nailed the red key fight, but then I was low on health, so I went to pick up the supercharge I left and then I got shelled

I reckon the next attempt that goes past the first part may be the gg attempt

Then after that, I can take a 2 week break

[lucid trellis]

I’ve been playing My House but at the same time weirdly nothing’s changing

I guess I’m lucky

[zenith berry]

Get in the house, get out again, circle around the house, then get inside again.

[lucid trellis]

Time to increase the paranoia

Btw does this work if you have other mods on it?

[zenith berry]

Not guaranteed, unless if it’s a mod as small as changing the sounds.

If you want to play it with mods like Brutal Doom you have to get into the .pk3 (with Slade3) and remove the code relating to chainsaw remover on the Mapinfo.

And I say once again, not all mods are guaranteed to work.

[lucid trellis]

The mod I have will the change sound effects of the characters and make me choose between 4 different characters

Oh and it also changes the model of them

[zenith berry]

Brutal Doom works for the most part, but one scripted stuff won’t load ||(which is the one that removes the entrance doorways)||

[lucid trellis]

I wanna tell you the mod but I don’t believe I’m allowed to

[ionic sluice]

Myhouse is the whackiest mod ever and it’s made me love portals just because of their sheer potential to generate mindfuck

[zenith berry]

Tried MetaDOOM, and it brought up a message saying “this won’t work” or something like that, and then I noticed I could not progress, the new doorway did not appear even after collecting the blue skull key.

So yeah, not all mods are guaranteed to work.

[lucid trellis]

Okay fine I don’t believe I’ll get punished it’s the Moonman mod

[zenith berry]

I noticed that Lawn of the Dead works because a patch has already been made specifically for MyHouse.wad.

[lucid trellis]

I have a strange feeling that I downloaded the wrong version of My House

[lucid trellis]

Oh my god mate I’m fucking sorry being a dumbass I didn’t download the Pk3

[zenith berry]

Yeah download the .pk3 for the intended experience.

The actual .wad is like a sampler of sorts of what to expect in the .pk3.

That is, without anything that comes after it.

Just the House in its original form.

[lucid trellis]

Oh I’m starting to notice that the basements windows are appearing on the outside

[zenith berry]

More surprises coming along your way.

”Amazing things will happen here soon. You just wait.”

[lucid trellis]

The Ps1 just changed into a modern console

[zenith berry]

Appears to be the Series X, but has the original Xbox logo in top of it.

[dense plinth]

moonman doom might work with myhouse

[lucid trellis]

Yeah it doesn’t

[dense plinth]

ahh well

[lucid trellis]

Oi btw mate could you tell me whether or not you know a specific map?

[dense plinth]

what specific map?

[lucid trellis]

Dms

[dense plinth]

why do you need to dm it?

[lucid trellis]

I can’t send an image here

[dense plinth]

you can if you have the image link

[lucid trellis]

I’ve sent you the image on dms

[dense plinth]

no I don't know that map

I've seen it before but I don't know what it's called

[lucid trellis]

Where’ve you seen it?

[dense plinth]

it was the map mutant mods was playing on when he did his vid on moonman doom

[lucid trellis]

That’s where I got the screenshot from

And I can’t really find any other maps with cities

I believe I’ve found it

[glass topaz]

Like a green man that is everywhere

[glass topaz]

Make sure to go through under halls to get a super shotgun

[zenith berry]

Also grab the megaarmor through the usual secret.

[zenith berry]

Doomguy?

[glass topaz]

No

Shrek

[zenith berry]

Ah, that.

But with the super shotgun and the chaingun, it’s all ogre for him.

Here’s a thing that will likely confuse people when described out of context:

Doomguy, Isabelle and Ralsei join forces to kill Shrek.

[warped wind]

I don't really game too much nowadays but I'll write back to you. Months later probably.

[ornate vortex]

Rush map 12 is finished

gg

Took 35 minutes

I had to slow down and play it safe at the end and it paid off

190 attempts

[ruby crater]

Knew you could do it, domo!

[ornate vortex]

I can take a break now for a bit

and then come back to beat the rest of crumpets and tangerine nightmare

map 10 of tn is going to be my next hurdle

the final fight is absolutely relentless in that map

[atomic dust]

I often see people saying the levels in Classic Doom were designed to be played with pistol starts and not keeping stuff from previous levels

[junior karma]

definitely not because you need to cheat to pistol start (idclev)

only if the prior level has a death finish, then you are forced to pistol start the next level

[warped wind]

So I played magenta spire. I didn't think doomguy could look anymore scarier. I was wrong.
I'm at E1M4, and I'm loving the soundtrack of that level. I will search for the name of the track later
I read the text file that comes in the zip, it said jumping and freelook was not allowed, but what about crouching? I just got to a place where I need to crouch to progress.

Crouching is allowed, right?

[ornate vortex]

that was rush map 11

i did that like 2 months ago

[quasi lotus]

Is it worth getting doom on mobile?

[vast reef]

designed with pistol starts in mind

to make the game beatable with deaths

[atomic dust]

just imagine playing the og dos versions of Classic Doom games in their entirety on dosbox

can't tell why but playing the og versions on dosbox just feels... unpleasant to me

[junior karma]

lots of reasons: 4:3 ratio 320x200 software rendering is pretty ugly, default control scheme is clunky by modern standards, and no customisation possible whatsoever apart from resizing the frame of the game (which is pretty useless now that PCs are fast enough to render the full frame)

[ionic sluice]

I accidentally deleted my main doom II save because I put it all in quicksave and then it got overruled by my doom zero save (the unity port, I was playing on my phone so gzdoom wasn’t really an option)
Anything I can do about that? Like some sort of level select I can use
Don’t wanna go back to like level 15 again

[finite crag]

Isn't there a level select option or

Like idclev15

Oh
On phone

[glass topaz]

its a cheat though

[finite crag]

I mean
It's just a pistol start

15 is a good spot anyways since you get ||bfg and wolf 3d map aka megasphere and every gun back on map32||

[glass topaz]

i am just playing level 13 now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/522459632996712458/1114577152608845944/image.png

well now i am in 14

[finite crag]

Unity port

[glass topaz]

yeah

from steam

[finite crag]

How's the 6 save slots

[glass topaz]

feels just like dos doom

[finite crag]

Doesn't dos doom have more than 6 saves

[glass topaz]

no

i can also run doom 2 on my freedos bootable thumb drive as well with audio

also, the unity port is just the original game but imported in unity for easy cross platfrom controls etc

[glass topaz]

actaully you can play gzdoom on android

you just need delta touch or that ancient freedoom app

[ionic sluice]

I’m stuck with an iphone

[azure nimbus]

there is a level select option on unity no?

[ionic sluice]

I’ve only seen that while playing with mods

[steel lion]

So im starting a doom 2 run on uv,is it a problem that sometimes I just run out of ammo and need to do pretty specific things to get ammo

On map 10 I had to chainsaw 2 arachnotrons

(playing on lzdoom btw)

Same

Nah,I'm too bad to pistol start it

Maybe it's because I'm so bad at aiming i end up losing all my ammo in failed or non well aimed shots

Or maybe I just spam the SSG

It is my first time playing vanilla with no mods

And it was a really good refresh

[glass topaz]

In the past there was gzdoom ported to ios

Only for jailbroken devices though

[azure nimbus]

it's from the main menu and not during gameplay

[ionic sluice]

I’ve clicked new game but there’s no level select

Nevermind I just found it I’m stupid

[ruby crater]

Crouching is not allowed from what I remember. I never used it during my playthrough

Glad you ended up checking it out. Magspire is really wild and cool. And the music for every level is pretty good imo

[ionic sluice]

Gonna ask here too:
Uh, are demons supposed to just not get affected by specials until they’re activated
Trying to make a teleport closet but the monsters won’t get dragged until I come in with noclip
If you have the answer for this please @ me because I really don’t wanna have to repeatedly check discord

[azure nimbus]

@ionic sluice by activated, I think you mean "woken up" or something along those lines. So the traditional way to construct a TP closet is by making a small sound tunnel from the main play area to the closet. This wakes them up. When you want them to teleport in, you lower a blocking wall between them and the teleport lines. You should have multiple teleport lines set in diagonals and they should be between the demons and where the player will be. While there are probably other ways to do it, that's how it usually works.

[ionic sluice]

ooh I see thank you
so wait, I'm assuming having the ceilling go down to the floor blocks sound, right?
does the same happen if the floor reaches the ceilling?
or wait do doors just have the block sound property on

[ionic sluice]

ok I might've just overcomplicated it turns out I can just add like a 1 unit gap in the ceiling and it's literally unnoticeable

thank you so much, it actually works now

[azure nimbus]

in e1m9(I'm sure other maps), you can see the tunnel pretty easily which I always thought was a cool thing to know why it's there

[narrow condor]

You can use the tunnel entrances aesthetically, like sewage drains.

[upper crypt]

Does anyone wanna play Doom 2 with me on PS4?

[upper crypt]

Map 09 and 10 are tough if you don’t conserve your ammo

[vast reef]

auto-SR50 tho

[vast reef]

i agree with everything except for 4:3 320x200 being ugly because that shit is BEAUTIFUL

also it's 320x240 if it's 4:3

[junior karma]

maybe when it isn't scaled up, I don't know of anyone that usss the original default resolution

[dense plinth]

for doom?

[junior karma]

it was still 320x200 but it was either stretched vertically or had black bars to show on a 4:3 monitor, I can't remember

[dense plinth]

I've played the original default resolution before

tbh there's nothing wrong with it, I have more of an issue of no autorun option than I do the top and bottom black bars

otherwise it isn't that much different to chocolate doom

[junior karma]

modern hi-res widescreen monitors really butcher the resolution though, it looks far better on old low-res CRTs

[dense plinth]

I wouldn't know, I've never used one

never will either

[ruby gorge]

This is the GOAT doom tbh

[ornate vortex]

does anyone know what is going on with A1s?

People seem to think he’s hacked because he’s been making anti lgbt posts on the youtube community tab

[split jewel]

Homophobia I think

Apparently he's not hacked. He's just homophobic

That's what I heard.

Idk much.

[azure nimbus]

I guess there was the old joyb_speed 29 trick but that shouldn't have had to have been the work around

[daring socket]

can somebody help me at e1m5 im stuck

[azure nimbus]

check out doomwiki's walkthrough, or decino's ||or mine|| on youtube or dwars if he ever did a doom1 walkthrough

[daring socket]

ok thx

[dense plinth]

I think I'm getting as comfortable with Inferno as I have with Knee Deep in the Dead

[ornate vortex]

I was gonna take a break from doom speedrunning but now i've realised I need to run a map and upload it on June 9th

I was thinking I should change it up and instead of doing a random wad from the doom community, I should try an IWAD map

I was thinking I should change it up and instead of doing a random wad from the doom community, I should try an IWAD map

[dapper flint]

There are no breaks

[devout nimbus]

whats the worst enemy in doom? or like the most annoying one

[ornate vortex]

revenants for sure

Those 80 damage homing fireballs can bite me, they're unlucky and super annoying

[devout nimbus]

time to make 10000 of them

[ornate vortex]

Me who takes a weekend break every 2 weeks

[cerulean delta]

Wonder if Doomworld would ever do another Top 10 Infamous WADs list, i'm not sure what would be on it now 20 years later

[hybrid prism]

nuts

[cerulean delta]

i know smth like UACMN.wad would probably be there too (or more just a general entry about Terry WADs)

[cerulean delta]

that was on the original list

[hybrid prism]

yeah

[cerulean delta]

TNT was also on there since it was going to be free but became paid at the last minute, it's sort of weird to me seeing how this community regards paid mods vs. other communities

like if you ever look at sim racing communities, there's a lot of really highly regarded paid mods for sims like Assetto Corsa. Extreme attention to detail, full laser-scanned tracks, etc. I guess it's sort of like how mods like Hedon and Rekkr became paid games.

[hybrid prism]

doom 1's 30th anniversary is coming so maybe

[dapper flint]

Doom 64 lost souls

Or fast lost souls

[dapper flint]

30th

[hybrid prism]

yeah made a mistake

[dapper flint]

Made me feel young for a second

[cerulean delta]

Yeah, and I'd also say acceptance for paid mods is relatively new. Even 10-15 years ago sim racing modders who charged money for their content, no matter how high the quality, were pretty roundly hated.

Now some of these devs, like RSS, make a lot of money selling cars for Assetto Corsa (and rightfully so IMO, their content is top tier in terms of attention to detail, physics, sound, etc.)

Obvs that doesn't proclude scammers like SimDream, who use stolen low quality assets

oh that's just the duende

[ionic sluice]

(He’s playing with a duke nukem mod for some reason)
Uh yeah it happens I think
also you might’ve interrupted a conversation

[hybrid prism]

it took me forever to finish myhouse

[ionic sluice]

Didn’t vinny get it but he just looked away so he couldn’t find it

[hybrid prism]

chat, what is the worst port of doom?

its probably the snes one

[atomic dust]

3do

[ionic sluice]

There are much worse than the snes one

[atomic dust]

the 3do port has near unplayable framerates at times, it only praised feature was the remixed soundtrack

[ionic sluice]

||myhouse uses a lot of portals||
Click here to spoil the fun

[hybrid prism]

wasnt 3do a "oh yeah" console?

[ionic sluice]

Wait where are you at right now

remove duke nukem for best experience

[atomic dust]

iddqd

[cerulean delta]

yeah he had to loook back at a clip to see it

[atomic dust]

maybe just press the keys idk

[cerulean delta]

||It gives me an idea to look through the idgames archive and remaster an older myhouse map with newer stuff like lineportals to make more convincing ROR geometry||

||Giving those old maps the look the authors probably intended, but couldn't achieve due to the limits of the vanilla engine||

[atomic dust]

does the Doomguy's eyes glow yellow

[cerulean delta]

oh, Grezzo 2 would belong on that list as well. Maybe BD since that's been mired in controversy since its release

dogy 🙂

[ionic sluice]

Ok you’re back there again
||Prepare for Big Dog||

Are you being serious right now

||Big dog is not small dog, but they are linked||

Why?

<@&162901871168585728> I genuinely cannot believe this guy I have no words

[calm cradle]

👍

[ornate vortex]

Is this myhouse?

[ionic sluice]

There’s more
Like more than half of the wad left

Yeah uh
Big hole you jump onto

Nono not that one it is somewhere inside the building

||Head to the bathroom first||

||Male bathroom, keep circling through it||

||sort of. More like an ambush. No jpeg up in your face, just something unexpected||

Huh
Male bathroom?

Counter clockwise I think?

Check the other one too I might be forgetting

Oh yeah it’s the female bathroom my bad

By the way
||Wait one minute after you die there without pressing anything for a little surprise||

No that was back in the bathroom
Nothing major though you can keep going

[hybrid prism]

ending 1 done

yeah its gone

does it have a sign that says "navidson realty"

go through the gate

you completed ending 1

go to unleashed and complete it

you'll go back to the house

yeah

[calm cradle]

*Underhalls

[hybrid prism]

fuck

iddqd

[ionic sluice]

Dude it’s the second level of doom

[calm cradle]

If they haven't played classic before, you can't expect them to know this

[ionic sluice]

Ok that’s fair
Ok so first you go to the door in front of you, hit the switch there (press E on it, same as you do with doors, go to the passageway that got unlocked, get red key from “building”, go back, use E on red Bars to remove them, flip new switch, go there, and etc)

[dapper flint]

Madness

[ionic sluice]

Well uh
You’re back
Right from the beginning
Try doing things differently from what you did before, and see if you can get a different ending

||fill all the kitchen sinks, get all the collectibles||

Wait you’re using god mode?
Bro 💀
Uh it shouldn’t be different this is actually just you

[cerulean delta]

there's several endings

[dapper flint]

[ionic sluice]

||magic||
More fun spoiling here

Hmmmmm
||bathtub||

I think that’s meant to be a reference to the thing this is inspired by

Spacebar
Jump

Do not resist
Fall all the way

Down
Basement

I’m trying to make it as cryptic as possible so you have no idea what’s happening

Grab the collectible

It’ll be at the end

Look for differently coloured floor

Uh
No jumpscares if that’s what you mean

[hybrid prism]

which difficulty did you choose

[ionic sluice]

Apparently not too tough + godmode (dave is pretty new to classic doom I think)

Try to turn off godmode though
Turn it on when it gets really intense

[hybrid prism]

in myhouse the difficultys are backwards

[ionic sluice]

wait WHAT

Nightmare included?

I mean it shouldn’t be THAT hard
I still believe you should turn it off
The first cycle is honestly the hardest (||end excluded||)

What staircase

I uh
I’m gonna be honest
I don’t remember a staircase with dirty walls

Anyways uh it’s probably endless

can you uh
Leave it?
Otherwise uh rip

Does it say anything in logs?

[spice radish]

Not counting the ||monster in the Backrooms|| my only death in my house was probably to the ||Pinky jumpscare in the airport bathroom||

[ionic sluice]

Top left

No like where it says stuff like “YOU GOT THE SHOTGUN!”

Does it say anything when you click (press E) on it?

Huh
Yeah I have no idea
Can you backtrack to the exit?

Oh

[ruby crater]

I’m about to Mock 2 it up in here if you know what I’m saying

Everybody here better be 🚗ful

[ionic sluice]

All damn guys we gotta be red carful

[ruby crater]

Gonna spawn in some super scary cyberemonds and make you all regret the day you were born 😈

[ornate vortex]

what about the cyber cyberdemons that are even stronger than the cyberdemons

[dapper flint]

Yes

[ruby crater]

That’s reserved for the final fight

[dry ferry]

hey, right now i have crispy doom, prboom+, and gzdoom installed, but ive heard of a new port called woof! what would be the main advantages of this port? i don't know if i understand correctly but it seems to be similar to prboom+ but with the look of crispy doom

could i use woof as a replacement for crispy and prboom?

[halcyon willow]

Woof supports fewer features than prboom+ iirc

[ionic sluice]

Where’s the fake switch that actually opens up a room full of monsters

[ionic sluice]

can anyone give me a megawad recommendation to play MetaDoom with? (looking for something that's not split into a bunch of a chapters, because metadoom takes a while to get going)

[ruby crater]

Never played w/ MetaDoom to be able to give you a solid recommandation, but perhaps BTSX 1? It's a pretty continuous stream of levels

only about 24 levels tho if I remember correctly

[ionic sluice]

ooh
trying Going Under right now (it actually works) but I'll check BTSX out later
thank you
also unrelated but when does the mom's dialogue show up in Going Under? I'm worried it's not gonna show up because of gzdoom being wonky

[ornate vortex]

I’ve decided on what i’m gonna upload for my birthday (this was the june 9th thing I was talking about earlier)

Thought long and hard and decided that IWAD is off the table, I think i need a bit more practice before attempting those. Instead i’m gonna start a wad that’s notoriously long and hard

I’m gonna try and upload a uv-max speedrun of Sunder map 1 (which is a wad that’s far above my skill level). However map 1 is pretty easy in terms of everything else in the wad.

I really am gonna do this to myself and start Sunder slowly but surely

it’ll be a side project i’ll slowly complete over time

[ionic sluice]

do I get the most recent version? or the original one

[ruby crater]

I assume the most recent. I only ever played it once and it was recently

[ionic sluice]

Ok
I got the idarchive version but it should work?
Honestly it’s pretty fun

[dry ferry]

first time trying go 2 it, wish me luck

[lucid trellis]

What’re the cheat codes for Doom 2?

[ruby crater]

I found a cheat code to make the imps toothless

aw what can you not send images in this channel

[dapper flint]

https://youtu.be/ayoP-DoAgY4

[cerulean delta]

Was there ever a project like I mentioned earlier? Where modders took older mediocre Doom maps and revamped them on modern source ports?

[dry ferry]

would you say No Rest For the Living is harder or easier than Plutonia? what would it be most comparable to, difficulty wise

[finite crag]

it's much easier than plutonia

the secret level is much harder than the rest i'd say so
hmm
i'd say overall more like episode 2 or 3 maybe?

actually no

i just remembered
yeah i totally forgot about the middle

all of these games keep mixing up in my head

i would say easier than plutonia still

[zenith berry]

John Romero has noticed MyHouse.wad. It’s official.

[finite crag]

can he unnotice daikatana adverts

[vast reef]

the fuck 💀

[junior karma]

would be strange if it was at a different time, but it is pride month so not that surprising to see some backlash, albeit odd from a doomtuber

[remote cedar]

Does anyone know if someone recorded Romero playing myhouse.wad? I kinda wanna see what he thought about it

[royal heron]

Just reading up on this A1s stuff and man

It's kinda sad

Can't commentate on anything right now though because it'll turn political and I don't want that

[warped wind]

You're decino?!

[warped wind]

https://twitter.com/romero/status/1665457138116841472
From this twitter post, he did

John Romero 🤘🏽 (@romero)

I’m going to stream myself playing through MyHouse.wad at 10:30pm UK time at https://t.co/evqV4F28d0

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1815

Retweets

248

Twitter · Jun 4, 2023, 8:34 PM

[remote cedar]

Didn't he already play it

There's clips of him playing it out there

That's why I asked

[warped wind]

I couldn't find it in his twitch

[sick mist]

I ask john later if he can make the VOD available!

[zenith berry]

Who the heck is A1s?

[remote cedar]

Thanks a lot! I can't wait to see his full reaction 😎

[zenith berry]

An article of creating your own DOOM WAD, part of PC Gamer’s greatest gaming moment in history, uses a picture of MyHouse.wad.

However, the article makes no mention at all about the mod itself.

I guess the writer knows the nature of the mod and thus, instead of unveiling the surprises one can get from the mod, they just casually put it in the article.

[remote cedar]

I mean, they could've at least mentionned it

not just for the experience it provides, but because making maps of your own house is always a good way to start

[hexed escarp]

It's very sad

[remote cedar]

Oh sorry I didn't follow, who's A1?

[dapper flint]

Oh ya? That leaked? I was a good buddy of his and was there when the server melted down because of it

[dapper flint]

Not hacked. 100 percent real

[royal heron]

Rip

[royal heron]

Doom youtuber and speedrunner

I was first introduced to him via decino's impossible doom challenges video

When he completed TNT Map09 NM100S, beating Ancalagon's time by a couple of milliseconds which is honestly pretty big for such a run

[royal heron]

^

[azure nimbus]

nah I just happen to also post doom stuff

[random radish]

Quick question.

If anyone here still makes WADs in Boom, is "Boom: Doom/Doom 2 (Doom Format)" what you use?
I use UDB btw.

[cerulean delta]

Yeah, it just has bigger maps and needs a limit removing port

[cerulean delta]

What port are you targeting? The original DOS Boom or PRBoom+?

[graceful scarab]

yo anyone wanna help me to test a thing on zandronum?

im trying to see if the co-op i create works

[random radish]

is there a general type of Boom that works on both?

I just basically want to make a wad that can run on probably any source port

[azure nimbus]

use that. Nobody uses boom on dos anymore. Don't worry about that

[past crane]

Finally beat the Cyberdemon on Hurt Me Plenty

[random radish]

thanks

[past crane]

This game is weirdly easier but also harder than I thought it would be

[cerulean delta]

Unless you’re one of the nerds using ReBOOM

(That was a shitstorm on the forums lol, it got moved to SourceForge)

[sour bough]

Anyone got a save of myhouse right before the fight at the gas station?

[past crane]

how do I fight archviles

help

[sour bough]

you run

[sour bough]

hah, i had a close enough save, i was only missing the wine aparently

[vast reef]

break line of sight

go watch decino's archvile video

[ruby crater]

No matter what happens with others or what people might think, we should all remember that each of us shares a passion for one of the best games made in the last 30 years.

We may not always agree on every idea or issue in the world, especially when we all come from different reaches of the world, but finding peace and unity through art is a beautiful thing. It’s a thing of wonder to share an interest in such a cool game with so many different people who have their own experiences with Doom.

[vast reef]

mhm

[ruby crater]

Sorry for the gush, just seems like I’ve read a few times in this chat about people being disappointed about what others may or may not think about certain issues which I feel like distracts us from why we even gathered together in the first place, which is for an awesome game that each of us has a connection to

Hope everyone has a good day

[midnight epoch]

Speaking of disappointment, in regards to myhouse.wad, I was disappointed after completing the game when I ||found out the backstory was completely fabricated. Lmfao. You can call me naive I guess, but I somewhat believed it was real until someone posted proof that it was made up. I feel like in a way that takes away a good portion of the impact the story had. They're definitely a good storyteller though.||

[remote cedar]

||Well that means the story's good in my book. I myself thought most of it was fake, minus the part about myhouse.wad being a tribute to a late friend.||

[midnight epoch]

||oh yeah, I went into this game blind and didn't read the journal entries until near the end. I assumed the whole lover thing was real and that this guy genuinely had nightmares after his friend passed away, and implemented it into the game. I guess theoretically this could be somewhat true, just not them being lovers maybe? I guess I can't say for certain so maybe that's good. All mystery isn't lost and I can leave some of it up for interpretation. It would just strike me a bit odd though since the creator played as the character throughout the months leading up to release on the forums.||

[ornate vortex]

Sunder map 1 isn't so hard to run tbh

just need to get lucky with infighting and where the monsters move (the first part is definitely the hardest)

[ruby crater]

The first map isn’t too hard. It really is about killing the first arch vile with the regular shotgun is the hardest part

[ornate vortex]

Speedrunning it is a different matter

the hardest part is making sure everything infights for you to squeeze through

[halcyon willow]

map 03 is where sunder starts to really show its teeth

[twin sapphire]

happiness has to be fought for

[halcyon willow]

have fun lol

[past crane]

[halcyon willow]

anyway

spoilers

if you're gonna keep going, i'm going to mute you

[dapper flint]

Was not a fan of myhouse. Really appreciate the absolute genius of it but not really what I play doom for

[halcyon willow]

it's not your usual experience

[royal heron]

True

[halcyon willow]

i found it a good one to stream. i was lucky enough to have a couple of the people who helped work on it in the chat (not veddge obviously)

[ionic sluice]

Lmao you played for a bit more

[dense plinth]

I wish ZDL had a dark theme

it lights up my room and hurts my eyes when I'm in the dark

woah hold up

apparently last year someone compiled the entirety of Maximum Doom into a single mod

that's over a thousand levels

not very good levels mind you but still

and they created a hub map with exit teleporters to all of the maximum doom levels

that's like, a thousand teleporters

the dedication

[vast reef]

can't you automate the teleporter-making with something like AHK

[dense plinth]

idk, I'm not familiar with doom tools

[vast reef]

then read from a text file to get individual map data

[dense plinth]

ahh

[sour bough]

Thats exactly what i loved so much about it. All the angles it has, how it integrates internet culture and creepy pasta and everything. I think it might be the best gaming experience i had the whole year

[vast reef]

AHK is an input scripting language

you automate keyboard and mouse stuff with it

[dense plinth]

mhm

oh god

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/642304323560407044/1115468554662314114/Screenshot_Doom_20230606_123332.png

this is only a third of the Doom 2 maps

[vast reef]

might be mandela effect but i remember somebody trying to rate every level in maximum doom

[finite crag]

why

[vast reef]

for the hell of it

[finite crag]

ok now do dzone gold

[dense plinth]

goddammit I can't navigate this map

probably can't even find a guide for it either

acutally I don't even know what this map is anyway

[dry ferry]

is there a way to have different setting configurations in gzdoom that i could easily switch between? like, i want different settings for when i play with smooth doom vs project brutality

[dense plinth]

the .ini file in your mygames folder in documents on your onedrive

GZDoom used to save your settings locally so I used to just clone GZDoom and have one set up with a bunch of settings and the other with like default or something

but then it changed so now all versions of GZDoom access the same .ini folder which allows your settings to carry over when you update it

so now the way you do it is by having 2 ini files and swap them out, which is annoying

this map makes me feel like I'm playing one of the spear of destiny mission packs

the way forward is by finding secrets that are behind walls that have no visual indication they open

[finite crag]

ah
those annoying packs
😭

spear of destiny mission packs make no sense

[dense plinth]

once again I find myself unable to find the way forward

except now I have an automap and I still can't find the way forward

[finite crag]

iddt

[dense plinth]

no wonder I'm lost

the map fucking broke itself 💀

I hit a button that was meant to open up a passage, but it didn't open

and the button is permanently toggled on after I hit it so I can't hit it again

noclip time

could've finished it like 20 minutes ago

[ruby crater]

Preach 🙏

[dry ferry]

damn base ganymede is boring

[weak python]

Question, I am not too experienced with code but I wanted to ask, how do you connect custom episodes together in GZDoom so it's like playing one long playthrough instead of playing through each episode seperately?

Also, if this is the wrong place to put this, I apologize.

[vast reef]

different .ini files ig?

iirc you can load gz with a different config file via the command line

[hot egret]

there is NSFW version of doom

[vast reef]

yes

[steady nimbus]

How do I run wads on mobile

[celest coyote]

Run while holding your computer as it's playing wads

[vast reef]

what port?

[warped wind]

Was a shitty joke lol

[warped wind]

It's more of an ARG type thing that turns into a mystery adventure horror game, which anyone can play for FREE. What's most genius about this is that unlike Petscop or other ARGs, you can have the experience for yourselves. I love that it is just a regular house themed wad from the outside, where you indulge into fast paced action (the reason you probably play doom), with a nice twist. Which is unexpected. Therefore, hence proved, is fucking awesome, actually.
But trust me, if there starts to be clones of myhouse, I'm gonna come back here and kiss you on the forehead. Why? I have no idea.

[dapper flint]

My greatest fear. Played breakpoint right after to wash the taste of walking around endlessly out of my mouth

[steady nimbus]

GZdoom

[glass topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577523636722728970/1115757386804764683/image.png

[celest coyote]

real sneaky beaky like

[finite crag]

Very dead chat

[dapper flint]

Just go on doomworld LOL

[steady nimbus]

How do I put mods on doom 2 mobile I'm using GZDOOM but I've got no clue what I'm doing

[outer sage]

Anyone know how to bean E4M6?

[azure nimbus]

each side of the central pillar teleport thing takes you to a different area(in the direction you approach the pillar) hopefully that'll help you figure out how to get to each location.

[outer sage]

Thanks

[vast reef]

delta touch? or that doom port with an older gz?

[steady nimbus]

Delta touch

[vast reef]

go on doomworld or some server dedicated to classic doom

[dense plinth]

Isn't doomworld a forum?

Or is there a live irc chat?

[vast reef]

well, still functions as a way to talk to the community

if you want live chat, the latter applies

[dense plinth]

Yeah but forums irritate me with how they lack instant communication

And I did look at some of the discord servers they listed, most of them are pretty inactive

I don't really have to scroll up to see all the messages for the day

this chat here is one of the most active classic doom chat's in the whole community

[vast reef]

patience is a virtue

[dense plinth]

aside from Project Brutality's server, which is also very active

[vast reef]

mod servers r active

eoa used to have tons of new chats

[cerulean delta]

Trying to get DOSbox Doom up and running to play “the sky may be”

Or is chocolate doom a better option? I know certain things flat out wouldn’t work under Windows. Like the “DO NOT ENTER” door that crashes the game when you open it and gives the message “told you so”.

The crash happens because it attempts to load a room either without floor textures or entirely missing a floor, or both.

[sick grove]

Finally beat the original game. Doom 2 or 64 next?

[silent remnant]

2

then Final. Then 64.

[sick grove]

final?

[silent remnant]

Final Doom, it's TNT and Plutonia

[sick grove]

No idea what that is

[silent remnant]

Are you using the Unity ports? If you are, both TNT and Plutonia should be in your add-ons section.

[sick grove]

I'm playing on ps

[silent remnant]

So yeah, check your add-ons

[finite crag]

after watching mtpain27's icarus: alien vanguard video i realized that i'm not the one who makes the ugliest maps

[ruby crater]

Lots and lots of ugly early wads, but still better than TNT 😂

People call Hell Revealed ugly but holy shit is TNT a whole nother bag of worms that some people will defend for god knows why

Only saving grave of TNT is its music. The levels all suck in terms of execution and being an actual level. Like people praise Wormhole as some godlike level when it isn’t. You can finish the entire level without seeing more than half the monsters? Yea that’s a bad level. Optional content to that degree when it comes to finishing a Doom level is beyond heresy

[dapper flint]

I actually had a fun time with hell revealed. Sure it's dated to shit but it has its own charm

[ruby crater]

A man after my dying heart

HR1 and 2 have a certain charm to it that I’ve always enjoyed even if most don’t. But I also literally grew up with HR2, so maybe I’m a bit biased

[dapper flint]

Same hahaha one of the first wads I ever watched my brother play

[ruby crater]

I think it’s just because Hell Revealed was always about just making harder levels. No bullshit gimmicks. Just pure hard doom levels, with different music.

Same reason why I can appreciate Alien Vendetta. It’s not really after a visual gag or setting. Just levels

I don’t really care for megawads that end up bleeding into one continuous level some of the time

Back to Saturn X is a prime example

I ended up getting bored 6 levels into that level set

Eviternity has the same problem even if it tries to break up its visual monotony..

I think it comes down to level designers believing visual appeal trumps gameplay when it really doesn’t.

Eviternity was like, “Oh hey guys, we got this new texture pack, look at me. Our levels are kinda mediocre and forgettable, but we came up with OTEX. Love us!”

I truly struggle to remember individual Eviternity levels that didn’t just have a big visual gag like the dumb hell tower heaven level

Anagnorisis was a level I played through twice and still found it to be too long and poorly made for how much of a “choose your own adventure” level it tried to be

[dapper flint]

Actually wasn't the biggest super fan of eviternity. It was okay. I absolutely love auger zenith though. Mayne I've played it 7 times now

[dapper flint]

Dehydration is pure ass

[ruby crater]

You know, I’ve never played that one..you really liked it?

I’ll definitely check it out, in the near future

[dapper flint]

Atmosphere level design midis encounters exploration all a solid 9 out of 10

I highly highly recommend you get off discord and do it now If you can

[spring fiber]

gbg

[ruby crater]

Currently out, but when I get back I’ll download it!

[dapper flint]

Fucking A

[ruby crater]

What? You don’t like 30 minutes of walking down a winding hallway that gets confusing?

[ornate vortex]

I started speedrunning Eviternity a couple months ago, I got to map 4 and gave up since the map layouts were too complex and the fights were horribly claustrophobic in most cases.

I instead did Crumpets and throughly enjoyed it more

[ruby crater]

Those early caves really spoke to you 👀

[ornate vortex]

Drain really pissed me off for some reason and idk why

I just don't think Eviternity is for me

[ruby crater]

I don’t think Eviternity is for anyone tbh

[azure nimbus]

It's good

[ornate vortex]

I enjoyed speedrunning the first map, but maps 2 and 3 really didn't stick

[ruby crater]

I think it appeals mainly to newer players that didn’t grow up with any of the Originals, so they can act like they’ve “played” Doom, when it doesn’t play like Doom

One of those wads that takes itself way too seriously for its own good

Ancient Aliens had a much better degree of self-awareness when it came to creating levels and the experience the player would have

Although Ancient Aliens had an iffy episode 3 visual theme

[azure nimbus]

how does it not play like doom?

I guess it's easier than a lot of other stuff?

[ruby crater]

Dehydration is not Doom. That’s a conveyer belt of boredom that takes more than 3 times as long to finish as a normal Doom level

The final boss is a boring heretic rip off that is borderline frustrating

Eviternity has no real bite or personality to it. It’s kinda hard to describe in terms of line defs and sectors, I guess

It just has a soundtrack that is pretty solid

[azure nimbus]

It takes from scythe2's 5ish map episode structure.

[ruby crater]

I don’t remember one level of Eviternity ever made me go “wow, that’s a good use of x monster” it just felt mediocre as an experience all the way to the end.

[ruby crater]

I do like that structure

Scythe 2 had a personality and bite to it

What’s the point of making later levels if none of them are even hard or come with any relative challenge? Map 29’s slew of those shadowcacos (I forget the name) was about the only pulse of difficulty in the entire megawad

[finite crag]

i got to map6 in eviternity then noped out because it's a little repetitive for me

[celest coyote]

Eviternity served more as a showcase for a texture pack than anything else. People remember it fondly for the music, but the levels leave much to be desired.

One could even ask why does map 29 have a 30+ minute midi if the level takes half the time to finish it. The overall planning of the project feels immature and haphazardly put together

[dapper flint]

Mmjp likes dehydration which makes all his opinions invalid

[ruby crater]

It explains a lot

I’m kidding. Everyone has their opinions. I know lots of people hate hell revealed or even plutonia

[celest coyote]

Hell, lots of people hate on Doom II

[dapper flint]

I honestly remember playing eviternity for the first time and thinking it was good and then that pile of dog shit drained my will to live. It is thee worst map I've ever played

But I mean I'm weird I guess. I didn't enjoy my house either

[ruby crater]

Still need to play myhouse. I only showed it on stream for 10 minutes before going to bed because it was pretty late, and I had already played through a lot of GOODWAD which is an experience..

[dapper flint]

It's a great horror wad. No combat at all. Lots of amazing engine use

I give it props for that. Not my thing though

[celest coyote]

Aw fuck it is horror???

I hate wads like that as well as that ghoul forest one..

[dapper flint]

Ya it's got alternative endings depending on secrets and shit and level changes midis changes horror stuff. Neat but not why I play doom

Just tons of walking around

[ruby crater]

ChooseYourOwnTerry.wad?

[dapper flint]

Well one example is if you turn all the sinks on in the house you can go Into the bathroom mirror go into the mirror dimension of the house which is neat

Neats all i have to say about it

Lots of stuff like that

[ruby crater]

Well I know basically nothing about it. I see people post spoilers but I try not to read any of it incase I do get around to it

Probably gonna play that Auger Zenith one later

But for now, I gotta bounce

[celest coyote]

You'll enjoy that one. Struggle: Anteresian Legacy is a good one too if you haven't played that one

[dapper flint]

Auger is just one of those must play wads though

It's amazing

[celest coyote]

What would be in your list of ten must play wads?

[dapper flint]

10s a bit much 90 percent of my folder is full of amazing wads that I need to get around to haha

[celest coyote]

Really? What are a few you've been meaning to play?

[dapper flint]

I think lately though lullaby tartarus and auger are the best I've played lately

[celest coyote]

lullaby tartarus? That's one I haven't heard of.

[dapper flint]

Also Heartland

Heartland is on my must play list

I'm not a skillsaw fan boy at all

Just have alot of fun with that one

Man on the moon also

Although I'd say wait for playing man on the moon

Yugi is making a update to that one

[celest coyote]

Never played anything by yugiboy

Skillsaw gets a good amount of attention. His levels can be a breath of fresh air in many cases. Wish more iterated on his style. Blending level design with monster placement is such a fine line to walk, but it always is worth the effort

[radiant thistle]

d_runnin vs d_runni2

what is the difference and why are they there

[ornate vortex]

there’s no difference in terms of midi, but it’s used as a hard code for what map uses what midi

d_runnin is for map 1 whereas d_runni2 is used for map 15. Both of those maps use the exact same midi

[gusty falcon]

https://youtu.be/EgFeqoKqOE4

[glass topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859113006243905537/1116130395281444945/image.png

[ionic sluice]

Not really horror, it's just meant to fuck with you
it's mildly unsettling at most

[glass topaz]

its just to make your brain go crazy xd

its more of a riddle mod/map

[radiant thistle]

but why doesnt it call for the same midi?

or i mean same file

[glass topaz]

most likely so that you have the ability to add a custom midi for each level

[next dagger]

how could you kill John! he is the creator of all that is good in the world (except daikatana)

wait

4 hours and 10 minutes...

dear lord

[glass topaz]

I wasn't for 4 hours

[glass topaz]

Cause "to win the game you must kill me john romero" in reverse

[glass topaz]

I just had the game paused for a while

Also I think its 4 minutes 10 seconds

[next dagger]

oh lmao. I just small brained for a sec gimme a moment

[cerulean delta]

[hexed escarp]

so that people making mods are able to add a unique song for each map

[radiant thistle]

did id intend it to be that way or

i assume its because it was easier coding wise for them and it happens to also be easier for us

[hexed escarp]

likely

they were definitely planning for modding to be a thing

otherwise they wouldnt have added the pwad system,

[radiant thistle]

well the pwad system was used for updates

like the infamous tnt blunder

[hexed escarp]

??

i thought each update just had a new iwad?

[hexed escarp]

also ? tnt is an iwad

[radiant thistle]

yes it is?

tnt is an iwad

it was going to be a pwad but then they decided to not do that

[ruby crater]

Pay for a wad

[vast reef]

easier for us was probably the main thing

you think the guys that wrote the first fully 3D FPS engine would have trouble fetching the same file for a different map?

[radiant thistle]

eh

[vast reef]

then again copypasting the midi and changing the filename would probably take less time

[radiant thistle]

also wanna know a funny thing

since all the doom midis a horribly out of beat due to mus2mid being horrible, the myhouse.pk3 fucked up runnin2.mid is the best one i have

[vast reef]

?

[radiant thistle]

mus2mid isnt good

doom uses mus files

[vast reef]

what's the fucked up runnin2.mid

[radiant thistle]

oh ill dm the audio to you

[glass topaz]

Idk but when I read/hear iwad its hilarious, there where some idiots on a steam page of a port of doom to the source engine saying "what is iwad", "why do I need iwad", "fuck iwad", "where do I get iwad", "I can't pay for iwad"

[radiant thistle]

doom to source engine? send that

[glass topaz]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-source-edition/downloads/doom-source-alpha-1-0

[vast reef]

tech illiteracy

[cerulean delta]

Chocolate doom did not work well. Neither did a lot of the ports I tried. Enemy sprites did not appear correctly.

[glass topaz]

Why not try the steam version of doom, I think its possible to use custom pwads

[limpid zinc]

According to this, it's vanilla compatible so that's probably not your issue. Are you loading the DeHackEd file correctly?
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/The_Sky_May_Be

[cerulean delta]

I am. I’m using the instructions provided on the chocolate doom wiki and I’ve tried a few different versions of the original Doom IWAD.

As far as I’ve found the solution is to run the install in DOSbox and then try to use Chocolate Doom

There’s a lot of old WADs that just never got the support they needed for modern systems, meaning they’re pretty much unplayable outside of DOSbox since the authors stipulated not to modify their files.

[cerulean delta]

Also Doom mods should def return to “let’s replace the vanilla sprites with MS Paint drawings and replace the sounds with weird sitcom clips”. Those mods have such a charm to them.

[unborn dirge]

traveled in time a lot of years back

[dim wave]

I just played Mt Pain for the first time

TNT’s best level easily

[zenith berry]

Or old low quality stock/movie sound effects.

[lime badger]

Explain why you dressed differnetly in Doom 2 on the cover, in game you are the same, but why?

[azure nimbus]

wht wads are you thinking of that has to be run in DOS or chocolate that can't run in a modern port like DSDA

[cerulean delta]

The Sky May Be

It uses certain quirks of the vanilla engine for things like the Blessing Cannon

[vast reef]

that's a shotgunner before getting zombified

not doomguy

[lime badger]

oh

explains the doom 2 marine skin in doom eternal now lol

[azure nimbus]

I'd say to try -complevel 2 for the doom2 version or -complevel 3 for the ultimate doom version but if that doesn't work, maybe fiddle with the emultation settings. If that still doesn't work, ig maybe but idk what dsda doesn't emulate from

[split jewel]

https://youtu.be/h7h7rHDOf7c

[clever jolt]

[glass topaz]

well it didnt work for me in freedos

in dosbox it did though

[zenith berry]

I played MyHouse again for like a fifth or tenth time, this time with the CS:GO Martian Offensive weapons mod.

Laughed like a maniac when I destroyed Shrek in just seconds with an incendiary grenade and an M249.

[dapper flint]

Shits overrated

[zenith berry]

It ends up being like Brutal Doom at the end in terms of popularity.

[ornate vortex]

I did a uv-max sunder map 1 in 3:57

[ornate vortex]

I was gonna say that i’m gonna try and lower it

but if I can’t within the next 2 hours

then i’ll have to submit it

[broken pelican]

does anyone know what to do in my house?

ive passed the level like 6 times

got out of the game few times after beating the level

and it's stuck

what do i interact with?

[ornate vortex]

Sunder Map 1 is gonna have to remain 3:57, ran out of time, got close with one attempt and the rest I flopped

210 attempts, gg

[fickle snow]

Any good recommendations for some weapon mods? for doom 1 and 2

I wanna add a bunch of weapon mods onto my game to experience sooooo many weapons to play with

[cyan rivet]

i'm currenly in doom 2 map 14 and skull keys simply don't work, i'm stuck at red skull gate with the red skull key in my possession and it just does not open whatsoever

[olive frost]

IDDQD

[celest coyote]

Just released my first video essay comparing original/classic doom to the two newest iterations of 2016/eternal in #videos if anyone is interested

I did it as a gift for Doom's 30th anniversary this year

Took me over a year to get it done from start to finish because I had to learn basically everything from scratch lol

It may not be the most professional thing, but I sure learned a lot and am happy to create something special for a game series that has meant so much to me over the years

I know many people probably won't care, but I am glad to have stuck through all this time to getting something like this finished after embarking on it practically a year ago. I had a lot of fun making it

[clear bobcat]

after much work, I've finally got a fully portable DOOM mod setup. Almost a hundred mods thatll run with a double click. Works great through LaunchBox. Learning about gzdoom command line, and dehacked files was pretty cool

My House really sucked me back into doom

[finite crag]

Impressive by the sounds of it. Nicely done work Major17Wood

[royal heron]

so what have you done so far?

[clear bobcat]

Thanks. The only downside is for some mods theres simply too many controls to map to a controller, so i dont bother. just enabled controller in gzdoom and if you wanna mess with the settings it up to whos playing. kinda defeats the purpose of Big Box having to use a mouse and keyboard for doom to have all mods buttons available, but it is what it is

Ashes 2063 is a good example of needing more controller buttons than you have

[minor stratus]

I've finished the first few doom 2 levels and I'm at a text screen which is talking about a star port but it is stuck on that screen and I cant transition to the next level

[clear bobcat]

cant change map in console??

[minor stratus]

I'm not sure how to do that but in doom 1 you could just press space or enter and it would take you to the next level

[finite crag]

Running via Dos or SourcePort?

[minor stratus]

I'm running on steams default doom 2

It's just stuck on a beige and brown checkered texture

[finite crag]

Ahh. They did make it so you can run via Dosbox originally, and there is an Enhanced edition. If however you want to play it via say GZDoom, that should help (could be something in DosBox)

Playing the Enhanced Edition works better - similar to the Xbox verison. It runs well with proper Addon support and stability

[minor stratus]

But I'm not wanting to play the gzdoom version I'm trying to play the default steam version

Is there seriously no fix?

[finite crag]

With Dos, it is a matter of changing settings in the Dosbox.Conf file to run properly

[vast reef]

play it on dsda doom or prboom+

or crispy/chocolate doom

[finite crag]

The Enhanced is actually a Unity Port (not unity engine). Keeps it to the original as much as possible. ThePsionicFlash is right - similar to Classic Doom

[vast reef]

same experience, and actually a tad bit more authentic compared to the enhanced unity version

the enhanced unity port has auto-SR50 for some reason

[finite crag]

True. Works for most, depends on the person but handy for playing the Addons

[minor stratus]

Never mind it just decided to work on its own

[finite crag]

There you go

[minor stratus]

3rd trys a charm

[vast reef]

nice

[finite crag]

Glad it sorted itself out

[minor stratus]

I'm glad it fixed itself I've never used any other port of doom other that gzdoom and I only use that for certain wads and making maps in ultimate doom builder

[finite crag]

Which makes sense. I use GZDoom for Heretic/Hexen but Enhanced for Doom 1/2 with the Addons

[hexed escarp]

is the gameplay of prodeus like classic doom?

or is it different

is it closer to classic or modern doom

[dapper flint]

I meant my house

[finite crag]

Prodeus is like Doom 2016 but pixelated. Similar and brutal. Has features like Doom but not as demanding and intense

[dapper flint]

Prodeus is a blast I always revisit to check out new maps people have come up with

[ionic sluice]

Press E I think

[finite crag]

Indeed. That music and the choice in weapons - such detail as well

[hexed escarp]

does it have something similar to glory kills?

[finite crag]

In a way - dual fists and you can obliterate enemies. Shoot off limbs and such

[hexed escarp]

huh

so if im looking for a game with similar gameplay to classic doom but newer graphics should i look elsewhere?

[dapper flint]

No glory kills its more of a quake 2016 hybrid if I could describe it

[hexed escarp]

interesting

[vast reef]

classic doom with gzdoom mods

[finite crag]

Have you seen any videos on Youtube? Check out the trailer

[hexed escarp]

i dont count that as 'newer graphics'

[vast reef]

project side + upscaled textures

[dapper flint]

You can also adjust the pixilation. In terms you can go from crispy doom to gz if you'd like

[vast reef]

gz postprocessing

the rtx doom port

[hexed escarp]

im not having this argument again

[vast reef]

beautiful doom

[dapper flint]

Highly recommend prodeus if anyone here hasn't played it. That and dusk is a must play for anyone here

[vast reef]

will play prodeus after ultrakill act 2

[ionic sluice]

Ok but gzdoom with every single post processing effect just isn’t doom
I mean that in a good way

[dapper flint]

Not a fan of ultra kill. Too spaz for my taste

[finite crag]

How so?

[dapper flint]

Artificial movement with flash visuals to give the illusion of skill and fast play

[finite crag]

Ahh. I'll stick with Prodeus and Doom

[dapper flint]

No hate on people that like it though. Just didn't resonate with me because of those reasons

[finite crag]

Fair enough

[dapper flint]

Dusk though. Masterpiece

[vast reef]

it's not an "illusion" if you actually try out the tech

timing windows are very small for a lot of the stuff the community comes up with

[dapper flint]

Always reminds me of people using 210 fov. Ya I can see what you're inputting hahaha