doom-eternal

[lean wagon]

definitely get the year 1 pass to get both part 1 and part 2

it's just 1 single campaign in 2 parts and it really doesn't make much sense if you just play 1 part

[stray arrow]

yeah its 30 dollars and i got the game for 15 lol

of course im not getting for lower than that but yk

i skipped the heavy cannon and im about to finish the level

lets see

oh shit i dont have it

[naive arrow]

Are you pc gamer

[burnt moss]

For the most part, ITYTD felt harder than NM. I used sentinel armor etc.

[stray arrow]

itytd?

im still a bit new to doom terms lol

[azure oriole]

im too young to die

[stray arrow]

wait whats harder that the lowest diffiiculty?

[slow sigil]

cause you played the game for the first time then

[stray arrow]

?? but thats the lowest
whatever you do you 👍

[lean wagon]

ITYTD is played by first time players who don't know weapon swapping, strong weapons, how many hits stuff needs, how to effectively use fodder demons, yeethook shenanigans etc

[azure oriole]

or are just bad at fps overall

[lean wagon]

experienced players play on higher difficulties and know such mechanics to make things doable

[burnt moss]

Exactly. If you look at the previous messages, we are talking about a first timer.

[stray arrow]

but did you have fun replaying the game at the same difficulty 2 more times

[lean wagon]

oh and is it just me or is the flaming hook just super strong because you can super easily get armour without having to wait for belch?

[stray arrow]

yeah it's a really good mod

[lean wagon]

i never replayed it at the same difficulty yet

[stray arrow]

didnt you say you completed all 3 campaigns?

[lean wagon]

Yes

[stray arrow]

i thought you meant you filled the 3 saves

[lean wagon]

Base game, ancient gods 1 and ancient gods 2

[stray arrow]

fuck

nvm im dumb lol

[burnt moss]

Point being, you said HMP was probably boring, and I’m saying it’s more likely really hard for a first timer.

[stray arrow]

yeah

[azure oriole]

first timer for what

[burnt moss]

OH I understand now. You thought he played base campaign HMP repeatedly. That would indeed be boring.

[slow sigil]

ITYTD- if you decided eternal as a first fps was somehow good, or if you have an impairment of sorts
HMP- if you played some fps but arent really great at them
UV- if you are alright in FPS games
NM- if you know the game

[burnt moss]

Playing the game

[stray arrow]

at first when i saw "NM" i thought "nightmare mode?" then i just realized its just night mare

but yeah dont mind me im stupid lol

[burnt moss]

I was a champ at Goldeneye so maybe limit that to modern fps. Because Goldeneye didn’t prepare me for this game.

[naive arrow]

guys, I heard that if you rush Pinky in the forehead with a booster, then they will give you a reward

[slow sigil]

well yeah i do mean more modern fps, goldeneye is quite old

[stray arrow]

idk im too far away from good (populated) servers to be able to play with others

[burnt moss]

I just feel insulted whenever someone says ITYTD is for someone who has no experience with FPS. Because it’s so different from older more basic FPS. Like, someone who only played classic Doom should probably start at ITYTD on DE probably

[slow sigil]

not necessarily, unless they already werent the greatest in OG doom either.
just being in the mindset that you should just stand still while shooting and have basic FPS skills is mostly enough for HMP

either no experience or the wrong experience

[sacred dirge]

Not really. Though you have new mechanics in new doom for someone like me who played classic since a kid the transition to new doom was easy and even I went from uv to nightmare alot faster

[azure oriole]

hurt me plenty is alright to start

[sacred dirge]

Also I'd like to add for the most part advanced classic wads are far far harder than new doom. Some not even maxed yet

[stray arrow]

i had a hard time playing doom 1

[sacred dirge]

Classic will get your reaction time down enemy acquisition basic movements. After that you just need to learn new doom added mechanics which would be easy for anyone who's played classic for a while

[azure oriole]

honestly if you played any shooter game that came out after 2004 picking up doom eternal shouldn't be too hard to pick up

the mechanics click on the brain real easy, it's how the player uses them that makes the game so god damn hard a lot of the time

[sacred dirge]

Eternal was made for mass market while something like dimensions or sunlust was made for the best doom players. So it stands to see why eternal would be easier

[azure oriole]

unless you spam a thousand reventants in nightmare or uv ehhh i don't really see the distinction

both games can be hair pulling bullshit at times

then again you can't really compare a wad to a commercial game since they're completely different in almost every single decision made during it's development

[sacred dirge]

Well here's an example like I mentioned. Yeah sure they both have their moments but classic has been around so long map makers have perfected high skill required maps. And will continue to do so

[azure oriole]

i don't think there's such a thing as a perfected method or a perfect map

[sacred dirge]

There isn't yet.

[azure oriole]

there will never be a perfected high skill required map

[sacred dirge]

But classic will always evolve new maps and challenges for people to test themselves. Eternal won't

[azure oriole]

well yeah, eternal is a single game, wads aren't

[sacred dirge]

Wads are a single game. He didn't say base campaign classic is easier than eternal. Or I'd mention that instead

[stray arrow]

classic is not necessarily easier than eternal

[sacred dirge]

Well I'd say base campaign is. Unless nightmare. Pistol start 100 Max's and other challenges

[azure oriole]

well yeah a wad is a single game but there's a quadrillion wads and they can be made by anyone, even a tool can make em. eternal is a single game but it can only be iterated upon by a single tiny group of people

[azure oriole]

i don't think challenges like that have any weight in this conversation

a better contestant to classic is harder than eternal would be plutonia on nightmare vs eternal on nightmare

[sacred dirge]

Yeah which is why it is easier. Love eternal but I've been playing doom forever and that's just my take from my experience. I think alot of older fans would agree. Eternal has a skill ceiling that eventually anyone who put time into the game long enough will hit without any more challenges. Even modded maps have restrictions. My point is because of wads classic is more difficult and hell still has things yet to be maxed. If we re only talking about base game then I'd say classic and eternal are a fair comparison when it comes to difficulty

[azure oriole]

this is a dumb comparison imo, wads are basically infinite content, of course you're gonna have more brand new challenges than the retail triple a game with a set number of dlcs

[sacred dirge]

Yes you just said my point

[azure oriole]

yeah but it's like saying mario maker is better than super mario world because you get more levels, yeah it's true but that's not exactly something anyone would argue

[sacred dirge]

Doom has cacoawards huge wads and even final doom was created from this community. You can't really throw it to the side and call it fan made nothing just to make a bad point

[azure oriole]

i'm not doing that

i just said this is a dumb comparison because they're not even the same cateogory of thing

on one hand you've got a single well made game, on the other hand you've got an infinite stream of content with quality varying from masterfully crafted to the maps i made when i was 18 lol, i don't think anyone would pick either one or the other

[sacred dirge]

I think you might be confused. The conversation was what's harder eternal or classic. I simply said classic can be harder because of wads. And so far all you've done is agree with me and then say wads don't count even though I mentioned wads as a reason it can be

[patent stream]

Official content vs unofficial content

[azure oriole]

do wads hold any weight to the conversation though?

[sacred dirge]

If you're saying that the person was talking about base classic then yeah I agree

[azure oriole]

usually these types of comparisons are between official content

[sacred dirge]

But that's not what I was mentioning at all

[azure oriole]

even if they were talking about just base content i'm still not sure lol

plutonia is kinda devilish in some places, a lot more than eternal

[sacred dirge]

I've played and beaten both nightmare for both new doom and classic. Classic has some tricky areas on but I'm not really sure

It's funny you mention plutonia. Great mappers

[azure oriole]

i guess it depends on a game by game basis

we'd have to compare each classic doom game to eternal individually

[sacred dirge]

Well one example is map 29 doom 2. Took me 2 months to beat it but nightmare also plays so much different in classic than eternal. Classic you're basically speed running only killed enemies in the way running like a mad lad

[azure oriole]

true, original nightmare is geniuenly bs, new nightmare is fairer in a weird way lol

[sacred dirge]

If it took me 2 months to beat an eternal area I'd be depressed haha

[patent stream]

Classic nightmare is definitely not something id willingly put myself though

[azure oriole]

the game even warns you that it's a joke difficulty

[sacred dirge]

Now picture it with co op monsters enabled like I was forced to do

[azure oriole]

i'd say that the true answer would be given by someone who's never played any doom game, being put to play through the hardest classic doom games and eternal

that would be the most unbiased, truthful answer

[sacred dirge]

They play so differently but still the same. It would be interesting to see a take

[azure oriole]

if i never played a doom game i'd do that honestly

[hexed phoenix]

can someone help me with 2 battlemode challenges it will take not even 10 min

i only have one friend who has doom

[stray arrow]

@hexed phoenix still up?

wait no nvm

lol i gotta sleep

[hexed phoenix]

o

[stray arrow]

wait actually

[hexed phoenix]

i jsut need 2 achivemetns that all but you can go to bed no pressure

[stray arrow]

yeah i gotta wake up early tmr sorry, can i add you?

[hexed phoenix]

sure

[stray arrow]

i also have no one to play with lol

[burnt moss]

Goldeneye, being a spy game, doesn’t reward attacking head on. So maybe it is the wrong experience compared to OG. But still, how can OG doom prepare you for the complexity of DE or 2016? So many new mechanics like vertical aiming and jumping. If someone only played OG doom, maybe HMP would be appropriate but not UV I shouldn’t think.

[slow sigil]

still counts

[sacred dirge]

Look up zero master lol. The other mechanics in eternal would be a change but the bones of combat are there. New doom movement and speed was also built off of classic doom and quake. You can just feel it when switching from classic and eternal. No one who only played classic their whole lives would ever Jump into hurt me. It would be an insult to their ego

[crimson yarrow]

Does remote detonation really do less damage than a normal rocket?

[slow sigil]

yes, EXCEPT if you get the extra cluster blasts which... just does regular damage...

[crimson yarrow]

What cluster?

You mean the mastery?

[slow sigil]

like the mastery

idk how it's called anymore

[crimson yarrow]

I thought it only increased the blast radius...

[burnt moss]

So someone jumping from classic to DE would be good at UV?

[sacred dirge]

Really depends on how long they played. If you mean someone who only ever played classic their whole lives they wouldn't have an issue with adjusting to nightmare. If you mean someone younger who only has played some classic and fps games I'd recommend hurt me for sure

[jaunty vapor]

Honestly it really just depends on the person. Just cause someone's good at one game, even if it's remotely similar to another game, doesn't inherently mean they'll be good. In particular the jump from 2d sprites to 3d can be hard for some people to grasp (mostly older people, but still). I don't think there's an end all "if you played so and so games you'll be ready for beyond ITYTD in Doom Eternal" or whatever. It really just depends on the person.

Even if some skills or general knowledge transfers (stay mobile, don't stay in once place, etc) it's not inherently make someone ready for Eternal (or other game, doesn't just apply to these games)

[sacred dirge]

I just think it's funny picturing someone who's only ever played classic doom haha.

I agree with your point. Some people can just be bad regardless of time put in to anything

[jaunty vapor]

Eh, some people only really play certain games. My father only played OG Mario Bros, OG Legend of Zelda, and Contra on the SNES. And Wii Sports oddly enough. And he's really good at all 4, but he can't play ANY other games. He unironically had trouble with the tutorial for cuphead simply because he's used to NES controllers and wasn't able to grasp an Xbox controller. And like, technically that's a "maybe if he used the controller more" thing but

[sterile kraken]

What do I have to do to get the bfg 2016?

[jaunty vapor]

You'd think if he was good at Contra he'd be able to mostly pick up Cuphead, but for him it wasn't a 1:1 thing (which suprised me, but it's not a huge deal)

[sterile kraken]

I got stuck on the lasers.

[jaunty vapor]

I do admit that was a cherry picked example

[jaunty vapor]

Maybe #doom-2016 would know? 😉

[sacred dirge]

I can do nightmare no deaths new doom and some of the hardest doom wads but I couldn't play cup head to save my life

The BFG in 2016 is located in
Chapter 8 A laser room trap

[jaunty vapor]

For me it's Fighting Games. I can pick up any game and play relatively well, but Fighting Games I'm abysmal at. I can learn combo strings but actual game sense/decision making is beyond me

[sacred dirge]

Yup! That too. I end up mashing buttons

[sterile kraken]

That, but I don't know how to pass it.

Do I have to activate the trap first and then?

[sacred dirge]

Yeah then navigate the lasers

[sterile kraken]

Done

Easy XD

[sacred dirge]

no worries

[sterile kraken]

Thank

[burnt moss]

I wonder if I’d do better with fighting games. My style, in games and on the mat, is to close the distance before attempting to dominate. Not a great strat for DE.

What element of game play do you think is so different?

[jaunty vapor]

I do think you would like Fighting Games more but it has nothing to do with distance (plenty of fighting games have zoners like Storm, Peacock, etc). I think it's the fact that Fighting Games are primarily reactive and based on game sense. Obviously you need to know how to do combos, but generally just knowing what your options are and what moves beat what, and knowing how to react accordingly is key.

[burnt moss]

Well my credibility here is based on Super Smash Bros, but I see a (rough) parallel between strikes and weapons. PB=jab, rocket=kick, dblade=special move, etc.

[azure oriole]

tag 1 is alot easier than i thought

i think i can do un with like 2/3 attempts

[sacred dirge]

Well done

[burnt moss]

TAG1 is the hardest main material

[azure oriole]

i find it easy since im fully kitted, i find early campaign alot harder

[burnt moss]

Sounds like timing and distance were your likely issue. Imagine if you knew your available attacks as well as you know DE weapons. Assuming you do know how to shoot in Doom

[burnt moss]

But spirits, armored Baron, and MORE demons all combine to make especially Holt extremely difficult I think

[azure oriole]

that last sentence is definitely a mkain moment

[burnt moss]

Glad you got it.

[azure oriole]

armored baron is tag 2

[azure oriole]

i find spirits easy to deal with

i finished the campaign with no freeze/bfg with like 4 death

[burnt moss]

And here I thought you just play gUNless due to skill. Turns out you just never found the trigger haha

[azure oriole]

the bossfight is hard tho

[jaunty vapor]

Boss fights the easiest part of TAG1 lol

[burnt moss]

What’s your strat?

[jaunty vapor]

Not the first time but afterwards it's relatively easy

[azure oriole]

i suck at killing blood makers and pain elementals 😭

[burnt moss]

Only once you establish a strat

[burnt moss]

There it is haha

[burnt moss]

Oops

[azure oriole]

pb ballista the seraphim and i just spam slob on the spirited demons

[jaunty vapor]

I kinda knew someone was gonna mention it

[azure oriole]

i struggle to kill blood makers cuz my sensitivity is at 100

[burnt moss]

The hard part of spirits comes when you have to mwb

[jaunty vapor]

Anyways, @azure oriole 4 Arbalest kills the spirit pain. Then BFG when the Blood Maykr starts attacking will kill it, and the tendrils will stun the Spirit DK so you can just LOB Spam it

[burnt moss]

Platform?

[azure oriole]

ps4

[jaunty vapor]

Without BFG you could just do Chrono strike to make headshotting the BM easier obv

[azure oriole]

i forgot i had the bfg lol

[burnt moss]

Oh I use gyro

[azure oriole]

chrono strike cringe

[azure oriole]

theres gyro on ps4? didnt know that

[burnt moss]

There isn’t I’m on switch

[azure oriole]

oh

[burnt moss]

Are there other accuracy settings?

[azure oriole]

look smoothing, aim assist and target snapping

[burnt moss]

I just gutshot the Knight with BFG twice haha

[burnt moss]

Switch has special zoom controls. But I think only with the joycon

[jaunty vapor]

Aha found it

@azure oriole in case you ever are doing TAG1 again for whatever reason here's some strats for the boss, includes both with and without BFG I believe.

#doom-eternal message

[azure oriole]

ty bro

[burnt moss]

Does target snapping not help with BMs?

[azure oriole]

its bad and messes up ur aim

[burnt moss]

I use it and it helps me take out arachnotrons and BMs and Drones

[azure oriole]

i will see and try it out tmr

[burnt moss]

If I didn’t have gyro I’d have to rely on every handicap the game offers for accuracy

[sacred dirge]

I generally dislike aim asset. I like to feel control of my sticks. Just feels off

[burnt moss]

That level of accuracy is difficult though without assistance. Headshot while sidestrafing and falling for example

[sacred dirge]

I find headshots alot easier since aim asset leads your shots and not always where you want. I have it on but I try to limit its intensity.

[burnt moss]

Is this with or without target snap and aim assist?

[azure oriole]

Just unlocked the Unmaykr, feeling good.

[burnt moss]

What does “leveling out” mean.

Do you mean quit moving your aim up and down so your reticle is already vertically aligned?

[sacred dirge]

[dim solar]

wait, what is gyro

never heard about it

that doesn't sound very tasty tbh

[mental stone]

The ones I've eaten in New York are amazing.

[dim solar]

wait, you weren't trolling?

[azure forum]

If you get them from a good Mediterranean place, they are bomb

[dim solar]

looks like a taco

dayum

so you're telling me Goldeneye eats one of those everytime before playing to get better aiming?

[azure oriole]

Doom

[mental stone]

Probably meant gyroscope.

[vivid cliff]

i have a few lore questions if anyone wouldnt mind answering them.

Spoilering cuz plot points for the end of campaign+dlc and idk

||How did the Khan Makyr get the Icon of Sin to Urdak in the first place?

Why couldn't the Makyrs recognize the Slayer looks identical to Davoth? He did create them before they betrayed him right? Shouldn't they recognize his face?
Or was that the Seraphs instead?

If Doom 1+2 take place before Doomguy goes to Argent D'Nur, how did the Icon already exist in Doom 2? Since the Betrayer let the demons resurrect his son after doomguy became the slayer.
Or did the demons use Valen's son as the icon already? As the torture to force him into betrayal?||

[burnt moss]

You shut your mouth

[burnt moss]

Sarcasm?

[opal galleon]

default discord sticker misclick

Why do these exist

[dim solar]

that was a spot-on misclick tho (?)

[burnt moss]

Most precision aiming is done at a higher level than that, so I don’t see how that would help. Perhaps for Mancs but prob not arachnotrons and certainly not BMs

[opal galleon]

[opal galleon]

I was originally going to just type out a response but the I accidentally clicked on the sticker pop-up that appears if you type out a simple response to something like "yes" - So even if it was still fitting it wasn't my intention

[mossy nova]

archvilles can feel fear and regret not like other demons

[burnt moss]

Idk about “how” but I imagine the icon of sin was originally alive until classic Doomguy killed him. Then was resurrected during modern lore. Slayer and Davoth looking the same is flimsy lore that we tend to ignore.

Hi Nutmilk.

[opal galleon]

[mossy nova]

hi

[opal galleon]

I lurk every day I just don't type anything since chat is usually one-note

[burnt moss]

Haha my whole personality is argument and discussion so you won’t find me doing that

[mossy nova]

i write gore storys

[burnt moss]

All I care about is them feeling my doom blade in their face

[jaunty vapor]

I wouldn't mind it being one note, it's that everyone's so tone deaf the one note is usually shit

[burnt moss]

You mean the Brown Note?

[azure forum]

Bloodshot I didn't know ypu had a podcast with Mayo and Toma

[jaunty vapor]

I think I did one once. It was like 6am and I had work so I had to leave early lol

[azure forum]

Oh then I randomly found your episode.

[mossy nova]

marauders might have been used to bring the icon of sin into urdak

or just the cool looking maykrs

[vivid cliff]

The Immoran guards wondering why their boss's twin is gunning them down:

[mossy nova]

that we met in sentinel prime

[mossy nova]

the khan maykr didnt know davoth when the khan maykr was born

[mossy nova]

the icon of sin was alr born before valens son and doom guy was sent to argent dnur by the mother demon from doom 64

[vivid cliff]

Ok i got 2 more questions for yall

From 2016 and Eternal, which was your fav boss fight? And which one had the best finishing move?

For me my fav fight is probably gladiator or seraphim, but spider mastermind had the coolest kill

[mossy nova]

icon of sin brain freeze

[vivid cliff]

2016 final boss: BFG point blank in the mouth
Eternal's final bosses: *stabby stabby

[mossy nova]

stabby brain freeze*

[flint flame]

Source:
Trust me

It would take millions of marauders to lift the icon

[sacred dirge]

Just take his head

[flint flame]

I would’ve said maybe teleportation as maykrs do have that technology, but I’d let Monologue answer the lore questions

[mossy nova]

my dad and his friend killed a jellyfish captured it or ate it

[sacred dirge]

Spicy

[mossy nova]

i remembered this when i was bathing

[flint flame]

[opal galleon]

[mossy nova]

gtg guys i have to murder people

[flint flame]

Hotline miami (real)

[burnt moss]

Jumping works on BMs?

[burnt moss]

In the Holt I often can’t access the BM from across the arena

[timid relic]

Join vc ladies

[burnt moss]

Just lost 3 extra lives farming Arbalest mastery 😦

[azure oriole]

Then don’t

[burnt moss]

Too late

[granite agate]

Moans in cacodemon

[burnt moss]

Sometimes they moan while the level is loading

[granite agate]

Samr

Same*

They fear is you are not the only thing they fear is you are you doing that to you and you can check Academy in the shower and then go to the bar and go to the bar and go to the bar and go to the bar and go to the bar and go to the bar and go to the bar and then grab my friend to see what I have the best for you to get to the house to be picked out and if there are you on the way up there and then we will have a good meeting with the family jules we are you and I hope he is doing better and I will see if I could find the best deal and get it done and I will get back and send you a new copy tomorrow

[mossy nova]

fun fact: caco bois have 2 holes in there back

[granite agate]

Bruh

[mossy nova]

quick switching is fun

[granite agate]

Yes I am still interested in the shower and I will be posted on this channel as soon as possible so I can relate to the bar and go to the bar and go out to the beach and go to the bar and go out and drink a little more than a little time and I can I go ahead with my schedule for next semester so that we will have to be like we can get to work on our way home from the beach with the family in town for the rest and then we have a kazoo on a plane to go to the bar and go to the bar and go to Tristans for the Nintendo game for the Nintendo game for the forest game rules that are not the only way that they fear the only way they fear that they are you doing it for a while is not the best thing to do you have a kazoo

[burnt moss]

Remind me how the green lights on Gladiator Phase 1 are supposed to work? I keep hitting him the second he flashes and it didn’t work consistently

[wind delta]

Guys I just fucking beat My Ultra-Nightmare run after dying on kahn maykr 4 times in a row!!!

[azure oriole]

yippie

[mossy nova]

you can dunk the gladiator by bypassing the shield by using the meathook to go into the air you shoot it in the head or body

[molten pier]

Average discord response

[molten pier]

SHEEESHH

[azure oriole]

somebody pin this and make sure it doesn't get lost to time

[burnt moss]

But how is it supposed to work? I only staggered him like 2 times

[burnt moss]

Why?

[azure oriole]

why not

absolutely destroyed, annihilated, ruin has been brought upon families for generations to come

[flint flame]

[flint flame]

[azure oriole]

doom demons anatomy sounds interesting

[mossy nova]

just shoot it when eyes turn green

currently looking at waifu marauder for 5 minutes

[opal galleon]

[flint flame]

He has to tell us everything that’s happening in his life

[opal galleon]

I miss classic EC

[cyan frigate]

nut milk!!!! i thought you left us forever 😭😭😭😭

[opal galleon]

I lurk daily there's just not much to comment on

Hi gamer!!!!

[cyan frigate]

true. doom eternal is a game still there is my comment 🙂

[mossy nova]

okay drippy saber

your next move is to get a cool drip pfp

[opal galleon]

❔

[burnt moss]

That didn’t really work consistently though. I shot him immediately when his eyes flashed green

[mossy nova]

welp idk

[burnt moss]

Then he really needs to see a doctor. I’m not aware of any bathroom usage

[mossy nova]

what

[burnt moss]

If you are in fact telling us everything you do, then I’m concerned that you haven’t been using the bathroom

[mossy nova]

Umm if someone is telling everything that doesnt mean he doesnt bathe or go the bathroom

expect mkain to talk or saber

[tame mango]

true…

[azure oriole]

Hello Doom Chat

[proven swift]

Hello

[azure oriole]

Taras Nabad Nekravol 2 parts urdak and Final sin Is only remaining on my levels

I hope I won't die to khan this time

what If I don't

Then I will die to final sin yeah yeah Ik

[last hamlet]

Why did you leave us forever, nut milk?

[opal galleon]

Because doom is not eternal

[last hamlet]

Thats impossible

It says it in the name, nut milk!

[opal galleon]

Because it's the title of the game😱

[last hamlet]

it says it right there

[opal galleon]

What if I told you

It's a lie

[last hamlet]

Impossible

Bethesda (and any company working under Bethesda) doesnt do that

[opal galleon]

I have an inside source that says otherwise

[last hamlet]

Who???

[opal galleon]

Your mother.

[last hamlet]

MY MOTHER????

[opal galleon]

your. mother.

[last hamlet]

This was an unexpected twist

My mother does not work for any company under Microsoft

so that cant be true

[opal galleon]

Of course. Surely that's the case.

[last hamlet]

My mother would never do that

😡 😡 😡

[opal galleon]

Truly.

[last hamlet]

This is so you know im angry otherwise you would not know im angry

This is due to the fact simple text does not indicate tone

[opal galleon]

But what if you're lying with the emoji and you're laughing behind your screen ??

[last hamlet]

If that were the case I would use a laughing emoji but that wasnt the case and I used an angry emoji to show you how angry I am

[opal galleon]

Because you would never lie on the internet!

[last hamlet]

I dont do that

[opal galleon]

Nobody does lying doesn't exist

[last hamlet]

Want free Microsoft points???

[opal galleon]

[last hamlet]

All you gotta do is give me all of your money

[opal galleon]

💰

[last hamlet]

and ill give you completely free Microsoft points for xbox 360

[last hamlet]

Thank you for this transaction, here is a used xbox 360 code from 2013

[opal galleon]

Sweet!! Thanks

[last hamlet]

A whole 15 dollars of money I already used

[opal galleon]

You're the coolest #doom-eternal user!

[last hamlet]

I know you are, but what am I?

[opal galleon]

The real doom slayer.

[last hamlet]

How u know???

[opal galleon]

I just do

[last hamlet]

yes

[azure oriole]

If he's the real doom slayer then who's the Internguy to him?

[opal galleon]

Voldeneye

[surreal minnow]

doom guy vs metal gear rising

metal gear rising am have cool song and cool boss and more gears doom eternal am having too cool song and so easy boss

[valid wren]

Im questioning your mental actions

[brittle quest]

Or lack thereof

[tame mango]

hi

[azure oriole]

Guys I'm going to ultimate mission In Ultra nightmare

[ancient plaza]

My prediction for next doom game has got to be a prequel, maybe to show how he became the doom marine and show him go to mars and stuff

[molten pier]

no no no you cant do this to me

[opal galleon]

It's.. true

[brittle quest]

It isn't!

We have infinite arena mode for PC players 😎

[azure oriole]

Frick.. why nekravo is in game

It's such a boring level why we can't go to urdak instantly

[opal galleon]

Oh really. Surely.

[opal galleon]

console players having no content in over in a year

[molten pier]

Maybe it can be a prequel to how Doom marine was fighting zombies for thousands of years and then got picked up by god and the gladiator fight and all.

[molten pier]

Cons*le 🤢

[cold ivy]

Cringe

I hope they do one last update for Quakecon

Just so Console Players do get some extra stuff

[tame mango]

true!

[cold ivy]

If they could add a snapmap type feature that would be awesome

[opal galleon]

True!

[azure oriole]

I could not Imagine playing on console

[tame mango]

bruh

[azure oriole]

It's like other reality

[tame mango]

good

[opal galleon]

good

[tame mango]

BRUH

[cold ivy]

Well whatever preference people can play on for DOOM I couldn't care

There's some Switch players who dominate

[tame mango]

false…

[opal galleon]

true!

[brittle quest]

false...

[tame mango]

thank you good sir

[opal galleon]

[tame mango]

❔

[azure oriole]

I am a pc player for almost 10 years

[brittle quest]

No problem whatsoever indeed my friend, you may count my support in all matters veracious.

[azure oriole]

I did not saw any switch pro's

[tame mango]

i appreciate the support good sir some people just don’t understand

[opal galleon]

DNF

[tame mango]

shut up we don’t talk about that

[molten pier]

Fair enough

[tame mango]

fair enough

so true

[opal galleon]

TRUE

[tame mango]

FALSE

[opal galleon]

NO

[tame mango]

YOURE WRONG

DONT DISS DNF IM PISSED NOW

put the pieces together

[azure oriole]

I just cutted snek head with a chainsaw It felt great

[tame mango]

you fucking doofus

[opal galleon]

Duke Nukem Eternal

[tame mango]

ok too far don’t diss dnf

wait

ohhhh

[azure oriole]

Is it psosible to chainsaw a baron?

or is he too big boy

[tame mango]

uhhh

😿

[azure oriole]

GOD

YES I"M ON FINAL SIN

Clutched Khan maykr with 25hp missed 2 bfg shots

[hexed torrent]

OOOF

[mossy nova]

he too thicc

[hexed torrent]

when the doom music kicks in:

[tame mango]

🙀

[azure oriole]

My doom crashed

While fighting/w doom hunter

[warped sage]

https://youtu.be/P0i0EXwezNM
Why doesn’t this have a lot of views…?

This guy finished UN using only Combat Shotgun’s Sticky Bomb. (aside from Chainsaw and equipment launcher)

I must say that’s hell of a dedication. Usually you would need to take full advantage of your arsenal to survive, especially in DOOM Eternal’s hardest difficulty. But this guy did it only with a shotgun.

[azure oriole]

Guys I am going to fight Icon of sin on un

Wish me luck I hope I won't die I spend so many attempts so many tries (only 16)

[azure oriole]

I have putted a crucible into the titans head

The Ultra Nightmare Is officially done

[strange gale]

because runs like this are boring to play & boring to watch

[valid wren]

Yoo chad

[strange gale]

UN is theoretically doable without firing any guns (current progress is khan maykr) which is way harder than this but that doesn't change how boring these "le quirky extreme limitations" runs are

[azure oriole]

Welp I still have to do TAG1/2 on un

[strange gale]

i respect the dedication but nobody's going to watch 4 hours of severely unoptimized sticky spam

[azure oriole]

I agree

[austere hawk]

Yet again

Im getting overwhelmed

I think ive developed anger issues from playing doom. Couldnt be more proud of myself

[azure oriole]

and I've developed more peaceful issues while playing doom <:

[austere hawk]

That sounds fun >:(

Breh

How is it quirky

Just sayin that violence breeds violence

MGR reference

Dont make such a big deal 'bout it

[strange gale]

🗿

[austere hawk]

I think I'm gonna watch top gear

Gbye

[mossy nova]

fun fact: im more scared in single player horror games

[austere hawk]

Daily routine: shit your pants from doom 3

When I played it for the 1st time I got so damn scared from that one mirror jumpscare

[molten pier]

Gl

[molten pier]

It goes hard

[molten pier]

True

[azure oriole]

but fu- it I will do only tag 2 cuz tag 1 skin ain't worth it

it just.. a yellow paint

[molten pier]

2 maurders can be cancer

[austere hawk]

My hands being absolutely pianotized from how much I played recently

I might recover my hands by drawing some shit that will slap and I'll post on every single social media

[molten pier]

Life goals

[royal path]

Goddamn, well done! I know you've been working on this for a while. What I love about this game is that you can literally see and feel improvement over time.

[azure oriole]

I agree.

I Improved so much

[royal path]

Goddamn, I find it SO frustrating how inconsistent this game can be at times, though: BP a Cybermancu, SSG to the face, GK state... but sometimes that just doesn't work, even though I'm point blank in the fucker's face cos - for some reason unbeknownst to me - the game twists the demon around sideways so it doesn't take the full shot.

[mossy nova]

does samur have balls

[azure oriole]

I always shield and bloodpunch him

and then end it with chaingun barrage

[strange gale]

What I love about this game is that you can literally see and feel improvement over time.
that's every game

[royal path]

Let me rephrase, then: with DE that improvement - for me - is MUCH more apparent, tangible and satisfying.

[mossy nova]

i have become underneath a pro in just 1 year

[royal path]

Lemme try that; gonna have to do a quick switch from SSG though, cos I use it to get in close

[mossy nova]

in doom eternal

[azure oriole]

and same for me

[royal path]

Fucking hell, and WHAT determines whether CMs spew their green vomit or not???

[azure oriole]

idk

they vomit whenever they want for me

[mossy nova]

hey guys i have reached 304 hours in doom eternal

[azure oriole]

I have almost 200

[mossy nova]

Mmmm

[strange gale]

at long ranges it's a form of area denial to deny positioning/other resources from you (how the ai determines the best place to apply the goo to, i don't know), at close ranges it's still a form of area denial but specifically to protect themselves

how the ai determines the best place to apply the goo to, i don't know
something something player has been moving in a specific direction for a while, only these areas are reachable to them, these resources are within close proximity something something

[azure oriole]

Close range AOE on Mancubus and Cyber Mancubus are pain once you take a big hit from it 💀

[mossy nova]

yes the ground slam is annoying

[azure oriole]

Sometimes happens when I falter them and then instantly do that while I'm close to do a Blood punch

[mossy nova]

oof

[timid violet]

I wish that destroying the cannons took the flame thrower AND the slam

[azure oriole]

True, or just heavily weakens the slam

It took me 27 Days From when I bought doom eternal and to git gud and finish ultra nightmare

Like damn man, 150 Armor and 200 Health goes down to somewhere below 100 pretty fast in Nightmare

[timid violet]

Can't wait to deal with mancs and tyrants on this nightmare playthrough whoot whoot

[azure oriole]

Shoot of Weakpoints of mancubi and they're easy

Tyrant's aren't scary they're just bullet sponge

[azure oriole]

Just practice and you'll be alive for longer

also use your flamebelch on big groups enemies or when you glory kill

cuz even this 20 piece armor from glory kill can save you in some situation

[azure oriole]

I do, but maybe I should try Chaingun's shield to get close on Cyber Mancubi

[azure oriole]

Honestly I'll just farm off 30 Armor points from SSG flaming hook on a Fodder.

Unless I'm desperate and need an Armor points.

[azure oriole]

If you don't want to get personal with him throw a grenade and combo him with lob and pb

[azure oriole]

Or just chainsaw him, my favorite and lazy way to deal with him in Taras Nabad.

[azure oriole]

grenade and double lob kills him instantly

[royal path]

I must say, one of the biggest design oversights - IMHO - is that GK/chainsaw kills lock you up, but not enemies, and often when you come out of a GK/CK animation, they've surrounded you and just dig into you, which doesn't seem fair.

[azure oriole]

just throw a grenade before you gonna glory kill

and it will stagger all of them giving you a safe way out

[royal path]

Hard when you're all outta nades in a ML on Nightmare.

[azure oriole]

or you can exit from glory kill while pressing your chaingun button and press rmb to activate the shield

Ice bomb or something

Or just hope they didn't put you in a really low health or just kills you.

or equip saving throw

or be like a real slayer and slay them all without fear

[royal path]

Heh, guys, it's that room on the SGN ML just after the Marauder + two Arachnos... that spawns a Doom Hunter, then two Cacos, tons of Gargoyles, then 2 x Cybermancus, then Death Knights, then Spectre Pinkies... etc.

[azure oriole]

but then you realise than anime isn't real and you die

[azure oriole]

I almost beated SGN ML on un

I got full strat on my mind

[royal path]

Tips for those rooms?

[azure oriole]

basically marauder 2 arachno's

[royal path]

That room I managed; it's the one after.

[brittle quest]

That one's a test of your nerves more than anything, you can also BFG that room without any consequence since there's a BFG ammo right down.

[azure oriole]

BFG the shit out of it kill the doom hunter and 2 caco first and then bfg

[royal path]

I can get through the Cacos and DH no probs; it's what follows; especially those GODDAMN SPECTRES!

[azure oriole]

Just bfg the room <:

[royal path]

Alright, point taken.

[azure oriole]

2 cyber mancubi tons of gargoyles and spectres

just bfg and bang done

[brittle quest]

You can BFG that wave then, but remember that if you die to the next arena (Duel Tyrant with tentacles) you have to restart that room as well.

[azure oriole]

then crucible the first tyrant in the sewers and freeze the 2th one

also remember that there's extra crucible ammo where the sentinel battery was in the sewers

[royal path]

Haha.

Piss. That was easy with the BFG, thanks!

[azure oriole]

also abuse the monkey bar to bug his ai

gz gz

I beated ultra nightmare today

I've been very determined

I've practiced alot only 67hours

every death teached me something

to not get mad and to git gud

practice

[neon mural]

Hey guys, I had a question about the master levels in terms of difficulty completion

If I were to complete nightmare difficulty on the super gore nest master level, would it give me the points for the other difficulties as well, considering they are lower level difficulties

[azure oriole]

yes

[neon mural]

Nice

[honest locust]

I think so. I never tried going backward in difficulties. I always figured that I get more practice when I steadily rise in level and it prepares me more for Ultra-Nightmare.

[neon mural]

Well I was gonna try and prepare by doing the campaign on nightmare mode, considering my failed no gun run gave me a lot of good tactics to use

[honest locust]

That's also a good idea

[strange gale]

1. you've got plenty of options to escape there
2. enemies don't really surround you unless you gk in a place where they're already practically next to you

[slow sigil]

enemies are literally programmed to take a step back right, while GKing

[honest locust]

You could also just drop a grenade below you after getting out of the GK

[strange gale]

wouldn't it be pretty uninteresting if the only consideration to make when going for a ck/gk were "is there a staggered enemy within reach/do i have at least one pip" since the ai would freeze for the entire duration

you'd still get fucked for doing that in the middle of a group

and if you left a generous amount of space between you and said group... what you effectively get is the current ai behavior anyway

[neon mural]

What standard enemy would you make into a boss fight

For me it would be the doom hunters (yes they are technically a boss, but still) like imagine a really big one that uses the four armed one from the cultist base level

[honest locust]

None of them really have the health to be a boss. If I could buff the health of one enemy to become a boss it would probably be the Archvile though.

[strange gale]

the problem with that is single target boss fights just don't work in this game

slayer movement & weapons are simply too strong

[azure oriole]

buffed possesed gargoyle

[honest locust]

that's nightmare fuel

[neon mural]

That’s why you gotta limit yourself

The gladiator fight during my no gun run was fun

[neon mural]

That just gave me an idea

[molten pier]

Thats also helpful in some situations cause they just go through you and you dont take damage while chain sawing almost like a stop time

[proven swift]

Double buffed possessed marauders

[mossy nova]

buffed spirit armored barron

[sacred dirge]

Dooms always had boss issues. It's a long standing tradition

I'd actually say 2016 did a decent job

[mossy nova]

my pb rocket quick switching is going good

[strange gale]

yeah i'm gonna apply arbitrary limitations myself (i.e. remove all the fun parts of the kit) because the devs did a shit job designing around them

[mossy nova]

with double barrons

[honest locust]

I think it would be cool if Doom did a boss like Cronos form God of War 3 where the boss is the level itself

[strange gale]

dark lord doesn't get any more fun if you beat him without firing guns. all that changes is that the fight becomes longer and you have to play more patiently. stupid ass mindset

[burnt moss]

I’d be more ok with it if I was at least facing the same direction coming out of it

[strange gale]

less options = more fun

[azure oriole]

hmmm seems fun to do un punching run

[mossy nova]

Mmmm i recommend watching senza and wheen doom eternal challenge videos

its pretty crazy

but no UN

[azure oriole]

I would kill my pc faster than do that It's literally no fun

[mossy nova]

try out doom eternal without guns which i wont even try even when i was in gun point or explode a hospital

[neon mural]

Yea, the only problem is wheen seems to have changed the topics of his videos, and senza stopped uploading (possibly due to YouTube’s bullshit)

[honest locust]

I feel that a challenge like a no guns challenge in a game where you almost exclusively use guns couldn't be anything but utter agony.

[mossy nova]

question whats underneath a pro ?

[neon mural]

I was thinking of doing that one

[mossy nova]

senza after forgetting to use shield bash

[honest locust]

I wouldn't

[neon mural]

I think that senza probably only uploads on paytreon now, if the message on his last vid is evidence of anything

[sacred dirge]

Usually just boring

Same as Tyson only and pistol

[proven swift]

Would be good

[surreal minnow]

doomguy as hair

doomguy eat taco and dead at cringge

[proven swift]

Imagine if he loses his hair like saitama

[surreal minnow]

doomguy and dog doomguy beenn dead

[strange gale]

glad is a less threatening dark lord, as in just another traffic light
marauder is a significantly less threatening glad
the first dh encounter is just "shoot sled until it breaks -> kill enemy -> stay out of melee range to not die"

all of these just take longer with arbitrary limitations but you still do the same shit. you do have to play more actively (restacking constantly is more important now because you can't deal a billion damage in 2 seconds) but what you can do is massively narrowed down and so it just becomes a braindead flowchart that is harder for a moment because you have to figure out new options, but after that it's about as interesting as watching a glass of water turn stale

in fact it's almost easier because now all you have to do is repeat the same 3 step flowchart until the boss fight is over instead of thinking about stupid shit like "do i use this mod here for optimal damage or do i save the ammo for if i get bodyblocked in an awkward spot exactly 27.985 seconds later"

[neon mural]

Welp, off to try and beat nightmare mode

[honest locust]

I feel like it would be slightly harder the whole way through the campaign, but you have a point that it would become repetitive.

[honest locust]

Good luck

[neon mural]

Thanks

[burnt moss]

There are YouTube guides too

[honest locust]

They help a lot more then you'd think

Especially for Hell on Earth

[burnt moss]

I’m the same way

[azure oriole]

I beated it in 67hours took only 16 attempts

not that hard just a bit of determination and Improvement and luck

[burnt moss]

It doesn’t sound fun

[proven swift]

meanwhile here I beaten it in my first run probably by luck lol

[azure oriole]

If I had to sum my un run today in 1 word it would be MY HEART

[proven swift]

The stress of ultra nightmare can affect your decision making

[mossy nova]

balls

[unkempt jetty]

That’s 2 words

im joking, ofc

[stray arrow]

my_heart?

[azure oriole]

well believe me or not but TAG 2 might be one of the easiest Un

cuz you got all yours stuff + the hammer

[honest locust]

It absolutely is. TAG 1 on the other hand...

[mossy nova]

i like corned beef

[azure oriole]

I have only 2 side buttons

[honest locust]

I only play on controller

[azure oriole]

And these are binded to my ssg and rocket

[mossy nova]

tomorrow i will be able to download doom 1 doom 2 doom master levels final doom doom 64 doom 3 doom 2016 and fnaf vr

[azure oriole]

nice

[mossy nova]

or i wont get my storage driver its a 50% and 50% to get it

[honest locust]

What platform do you play on?

[mossy nova]

pc

i got the whole franchise bundle

for 7/8 dollars

in steam in summer sale

[honest locust]

nice

[mossy nova]

i once got 6666 score when i finished nekravol part 2

[honest locust]

I thought that every level gives you something around 10,000

[mossy nova]

for some reason nightmare difficulty missions not even boss missions gives me 1 level but it will be fruitless because when i reach 250 level i will get a 1 star and then get back to level 1

[honest locust]

I already have

I really don't worry about general doom levels unless you're below 150

If you get a star it also adds a little fear into people you face in Battlemode (if you play that mode) unless they're a higher star level

I can say from experience I always get scared that I'm going to get my ass kicked whenever I see a person in Battlemode with 3 or more stars.

[azure oriole]

i want to get atleast 16stars

[honest locust]

I'm probably going to stop at 5

@azure oriole Are you playing the campaign rn?

[azure oriole]

I am Indeed

[honest locust]

which mission?

[azure oriole]

SGN ml un

[honest locust]

have you ever finished it before?

[azure oriole]

depends what?

sgn ml un? no I died at 2 marauder part rn

[honest locust]

you want any tips for it?

[azure oriole]

no

[honest locust]

ok

[slate dawn]

i need help with a mission

[ruby umbra]

Which one

[slate dawn]

final sin

[ruby umbra]

Oof

[slate dawn]

this is like my third day playing

[last hamlet]

Shoot the guy until he die

[stray arrow]

i keep disconnecting every once in a while

no idea why it keeps happening

[slate dawn]

good advive

[ruby umbra]

Just gotta learn the level is all I can tell you

[slate dawn]

ok

[ruby umbra]

It’s like a souls game die until you learn

[last hamlet]

Thats a description of nearly every game ever made

[slate dawn]

i also forgot about big melee sword and bfg

[ruby umbra]

Pretty much

[slate dawn]

those help

[slate dawn]

can u go into vc and critique just my overall gameplay?

[ruby umbra]

Ima shout cast

[slate dawn]

what?

[ruby umbra]

Yea

[proven swift]

Just remember, The Longer the Icon of Sin is on the Earth, the Stronger it Becomes

[slate dawn]

im mad because of that line

one character says it 3 times in one mission

[proven swift]

yeah it is Samuel

[slate dawn]

ik

i hate that guy

[proven swift]

Though that is a legit advice I think

[last hamlet]

I think he says it more times

[slate dawn]

around there

can anyone go into vc and critique my gameplay?

[last hamlet]

You arent even in vc

[slate dawn]

i was waiting for a responce

[stray arrow]

it keeps happening wth

[azure oriole]

Check your internet connection

[stray arrow]

my internet has no problem, its just doom

[honest locust]

Did you restart doom or whatever you're playing on? That helps sometimes.

[azure oriole]

SGN ML UN done

[random vault]

nice

[wide heath]

sweet

[azure oriole]

I'm covered in gold now

I have every gold weapon I have gold slayer

[wide heath]

hey when u look at the doom 2 marine in horde mode the icon of sin like base thing is pixelated like classic doom but when i unlocked it its like realistic can i change it in any way

[azure oriole]

Oh you succeeded in campaign un? Noice

[azure oriole]

yeahj

I clutched khan at 25hp

Congratz!
It took me almost 2 years of playing to succeed in UN.
Prolly around 400 hours or so

It took me 67 hours and 27 days from when I started playing eternal and 16 attempts to succeed at UN

Impressive!

[azure oriole]

well I took all tips ya guys gave me

and just said ok lets do it

[molten pier]

Sometimes I dont advance the mission just to piss hayden off

[molten pier]

Jeez

[azure oriole]

Yeh this girl is a natural talent

and I had a deal with my friend that If I beat ultra nightmare he will give me 10 out of 10 in my setup

[molten pier]

Yea I started my nightmare run and died like 50 times in one fucking arena. Aint no way ill beat UN

[azure oriole]

Important things determination meditation skill motivation

[azure oriole]

Now I can move around with my gold butt and my Immortal tag

and be proud of what I achieved in such a short amount of time

[azure oriole]

Enjoy while it lasts, the gold skin starts looking ugly rq

Immortal banner is p cool

[azure oriole]

I will prob be rolling around with my modded skullface

Lux?

No

I used lux skullface for a while, was neat

[molten pier]

Whats lux skullface

[azure oriole]

Modded skullface skin, similar to lux skins otherwise (gold, black)

Speaking of my fav original skins are lux slayer, silver slayer, green chrome slayer

[azure oriole]

Angel of death skullface or hellforged

but prob Angel of death

Red Neons look cool on it

[molten pier]

Mine is the original praetor

[azure oriole]

Mine are lux slayer. Survivor. default.

Survivor is p neat

[brittle quest]

Nothing compared to pink praetor

[slow sigil]

the only thing i dont like about survivor is that 1 part near the neck or brown for no fucking reason

[azure oriole]

there is a brown color?

[slow sigil]

pretty sure yeah

[azure oriole]

Ugly

[slow sigil]

doomguy's right shoulder

[azure oriole]

ugly

[slate dawn]

how big of a dificulty spike is there jumping from hurt me plenty to ultra-nightmare?

[azure oriole]

and you're even asking that?

[slate dawn]

yes

i plan to do it

[azure oriole]

big

bigger than you imagine

[azure oriole]

So big you will do ultra violence and nightmare first

[slate dawn]

i dont feel like it

[sacred dirge]

Then good luck loll

[azure oriole]

true

yeahg

Suit yourself

and shit yourself

[sacred dirge]

Thought you said shit

Oh you did. Because that works too. He will

[azure oriole]

yeah it felt appropriate

Let us know how it goes...

@tame mango hi

[slate dawn]

can some1 go into vc and critique my combat?

[tame mango]

hi

[azure oriole]

hey

[tame mango]

hello

[azure oriole]

hi

duke nuke them

[tame mango]

hi duke

[azure oriole]

hi

[tame mango]

hi

[azure oriole]

hi

[azure oriole]

hi doug

[tame mango]

hi periphery

[proven swift]

Hello friends, chai peyo 🍵

[azure forum]

hi

[azure oriole]

wenamechainasama

[tame mango]

periphery

[azure oriole]

hi

[tame mango]

hi

[azure oriole]

hey

[tame mango]

hello

[molten pier]

Its the difference between stubing your toe and having all your nails being removed by one chopstick without anasthesia

[slate dawn]

i dont feel a difference yet

slight difficulty increase

[sacred dirge]

Right

[azure oriole]

you're on the first level

[slate dawn]

minor details

[azure oriole]

you'll feel it

you already almost died like 2 or 3 times

[slate dawn]

no

[azure oriole]

im literally watching you play

[slate dawn]

oh

[molten pier]

Reach the snow level

[azure oriole]

i don't reccomend using base fire much or normal punching

since punches literally do 1 damage

kinda

[azure oriole]

everyone knows that

Apparently not... lel

Really

dang....

Okay you can interrupt zombies melee attack by punching

Not useful

[azure forum]

Or Punch boost

[azure oriole]

anyway

I want to do un on tag 2

But idk how my mental health Isn't ready enough

[proven swift]

Tag 2 is easier compared to Tag 1 atleast

[molten pier]

I mean u have the hammer of god so might not be to hard

[sacred dirge]

What I usually do even to warm up is 2 files practice an arena on nightmare then when you're ready move on to the UN file and do the arena

[azure oriole]

Is it easier than campaign

[proven swift]

well been a while since I last played TAG 2

[sacred dirge]

Yeah

[azure forum]

TAG2 is the easiest UN

[azure oriole]

ok

you Convinced me I will do it. just give me 4 days

or like an hour

[azure oriole]

hi

Hi guys

[molten pier]

Hello

[azure oriole]

@opal galleon

[opal galleon]

Hi guys

[azure oriole]

Hello

[molten pier]

Sup

[slate dawn]

i see what you mean now

[azure oriole]

Doom

[molten pier]

Reality is often real

[slate dawn]

i didnt know u reastart the entire mission on death

[azure oriole]

What difficulty are you playing

[azure oriole]

*entire campaign

If you are playing rn

[slate dawn]

no

[azure oriole]

it is

you restart the entire campaign if you die

[slate dawn]

omg im in for a lot of pain

[azure oriole]

👍

[ember void]

👎

[slate dawn]

u couldve told me that

[brittle quest]

🙀

[molten pier]

Gl

[azure oriole]

it says in the description

[hushed garden]

the game literally tells you

[ember void]

omg hi floir!!!

[slate dawn]

damn

[wide heath]

it tells u dum dum

[azure oriole]

😹

[ember void]

woah thats a bit mean

[slate dawn]

i an illiterite

[molten pier]

I told u already

[azure oriole]

So did you die?

[molten pier]

Same

[wide heath]

ok

[austere hawk]

So

[slate dawn]

i might go down to nightmare

[austere hawk]

I drew a jojo art. But fucked it up by a stand. What a come up of events eh

Fuc wrong chat

[molten pier]

Yes

[azure oriole]

can i complete world spear ml without the hammer and ice bomb?

[slate dawn]

is skipping ultra-violence an ok skip?

[azure oriole]

wdym skipping

[austere hawk]

Wuh

[slate dawn]

skipping a difficulty

[azure oriole]

if you want idk

[molten pier]

Not rlly but u do u

[austere hawk]

You wanna challange you do a challenge

[sacred dirge]

It depends. If you're one of those people that's okay with dying 70 times and then calling nightmare easy just do nightmare.

[azure oriole]

the difference between nightmare and hurt me plenty is huge, i dont recommend that

[slate dawn]

are the difficulyy differences that big?

[azure oriole]

but try it, if its too hard lower it down

with nightmare yes, ultra violence isnt that noticeable

[sacred dirge]

Personally nightmare is the best experience but just make sure you're ready

[molten pier]

Yes, youll start noticing it on later levels

[slate dawn]

ok

[azure oriole]

u notice it on early levels

[slate dawn]

im not doing ultra-nightmare anytime soon tho

[azure forum]

I think on the early levels

[molten pier]

Fair

[azure oriole]

youll get there

[slate dawn]

but u start the entire camphaign over

[sacred dirge]

Not on nightmare

[azure oriole]

he's talking about UN

[sacred dirge]

^

[azure oriole]

yep but its not that hard if u know the strat to it and have enough skill

[azure oriole]

The difficulty select screen tells you that

[azure oriole]

hi

[slate dawn]

how long does it take to get to that skill?

[azure forum]

Just play the game and find it yourself. Honestly that's the best way.

[sacred dirge]

How long does it take to juggle a soccer ball. It depends on you your skill and practice

[slate dawn]

i beat the game in like 3 days does that say anyhing?

[azure oriole]

quickswapping

[sacred dirge]

On hurt me not really

[azure forum]

I'd personally suggest you start with Hurt me plenty for the first run. Then from there, go to UV or Nightmare depending on how your first experience was.

[azure oriole]

it says that u know how ur basic equipments work

[slate dawn]

bro

damn this game has depth

[azure oriole]

what's up

His eyes have been opened

[azure oriole]

it looks overwhelming but it will be muscle memory if u play enough

[azure forum]

The shadow realm will eventually take you Darkor

[slate dawn]

how long is enough?

[sacred dirge]

Man

[azure forum]

30 min

[azure oriole]

That depends on you

imo u should learn quickswapping first

[slate dawn]

i dont get it tho

[azure oriole]

?

[azure oriole]

5 min if you do speedrun skips

[slate dawn]

i do what im supposed to and it does the same thing it normally does

[azure oriole]

do what

so Tag 2 will be beaten in un in around 3/4 days

around that speculating

[slate dawn]

quick swapping

[azure oriole]

are u on pc?

[slate dawn]

yes

[azure oriole]

Wait how do you have skullface?

[azure forum]

It should take you 1-2 tries If you already beaten TAG1 and main Campaign

[azure oriole]

I don't have skullface

un tag2 skin is so cool

[azure oriole]

So the modded skin replaces smth else?

[azure oriole]

No It's replaces skullface

https://youtu.be/_rgA5W6PndI @slate dawn

[azure oriole]

Ah I thought you already had it

I dont' have it but I will get it

my determination is unstoppable

Have you done tag 2 on nightmare already?

[azure oriole]

as my first playthrough

[slate dawn]

are you suppose to have a keybind for every weapon?

[azure oriole]

yes

[slate dawn]

bro

i thought i was good at this game

[azure oriole]

Yeah UN should be pretty quick for ya

[azure oriole]

One run on medium diff is hardly mastery yet

[slate dawn]

ik

[azure oriole]

In any game

[slate dawn]

i thought i was at least decent

[azure oriole]

But keep practicing and you'll get there!

Upside is there's crap ton of guides and videos these days

[slate dawn]

ik

[azure oriole]

Besides what is "decent" is subjective.
You are good if you feel like you are.
If you start comparing there's always someone better than you.

[ember void]

asiju why does it say that you're "new here"

[azure oriole]

New account

[ember void]

I think the little icon goes away after a week or so of being in a server

can't really remember the exact time

[azure oriole]

No wait I left and rejoined also

Prolly why

Anyway deleted my old account a few weeks ago

alr first un attempt tag 2 lets see how it goes

[slate dawn]

can u critique my gameplay?

[azure oriole]

doing un run tag 2 attempts in vc5

[azure oriole]

Sorry have to go offline soon

[azure forum]

This!
plus it is a single player game. There are many ways to beat the game and to be pretty good at it.

[royal path]

Damn, is it me or is the Arc Complex ML on Nightmare easier than the actual campaign level?

[sacred dirge]

Personally I don't care about weapon meta. Movement pace and ability to defeat an arena nightmare or UN determines skill for me. Not every player plays the same but if you can conquer a challenge mad respect

[rustic rampart]

Not just you

[azure forum]

Yep, a lot of people feel that way

[royal path]

Ha, clearly not.

[rustic rampart]

So many fights were clearly just easier

[azure forum]

It is the only "master level" with not a single Archvile in it

[azure oriole]

That's a pretty common take yes

[azure oriole]

what about hell

[royal path]

I just beat it in one go and had one stupid death due my own idiocy, but an Extra Lifesaved me.

[azure forum]

I think Arc Complex had a ton of potential as a master level. That purple goo arena had potential for some crazy encounter

[azure oriole]

Arc ml is the easiest one by a mile

[azure forum]

The shadows will have Archies and you

[royal path]

Especially the one just after the big elevator drop with the Berserk powerup; that fight in the campaign whooped me hard the first few attempts on Nightmare.

[azure oriole]

Even cultist base is notably tougher

[azure oriole]

?

[azure forum]

It happens. Dying once it's not a big deal.

[rustic rampart]

I don't even recall that fight in the ML

[royal path]

Cultist base is BRUTAL due to lack of arsenal at that point in the game; not a fan.

[royal path]

It's a cakewalk; the campaign fight is tough as shit.

[azure oriole]

Cultist master level

[royal path]

Ah, of course; don't have it since I didn't preorder.

[proven swift]

You could get the rip n tear pack

[azure forum]

Those two master levels are just practice levels. The other 4 are true master levels

[royal path]

But I probably wouldn't wanna play it!

[burnt moss]

It is

[royal path]

I've beaten them all (save The World Spear) on UV.

Next up I'll try Nightmare, but gotta work up the nerve first.

[azure forum]

Nice! That's actually pretty good

[azure oriole]

You can buy the rip and tear pack if you want it.
It's a good warmup / practice level

[royal path]

Thanks; yeah, with World Spear I got right up until the VERY last room with the two Hunters and Marauder, but I just couldn't anymore; soul crushing section.

[rustic rampart]

I got to the room before that until my game softlocked me.

And I was on Ultra Nightmare

Still salty about that

[azure forum]

The best way to do that part is to go around and Glory Kill zombies to the get hammer back. If you don't have blood punches, Hammer the marauder first and then lock on. Then on the Doom hunters, use micromissiles if to break the sleds if your aim ain't that good

[azure oriole]

Actually I'd even recommend cultist ml if you boutta go up to nightmare.
When you can do cultist ml on nm you are ready to move on to harder mls

[royal path]

That's brutal. F, brother.

[royal path]

Yeah, once I learned you can stun the Marauder to hell with the hammer, I'm much more ready now.

[azure oriole]

Anyway gtg

[royal path]

Well, I made a good dent in SGN on Nightmare earlier; had to quit, though, so couldn't see it through; got the red key, just after the green sludge section.

[proven swift]

Stunting him and using the auto mod on him is pretty satisfying

[azure oriole]

Sgn is a good start too but cultist is like middleground between arc and SGN.

[royal path]

Auto shotgun?

[proven swift]

Yep

[rustic rampart]

Yes

[royal path]

Does that... ahem rip and tear?

vs. Marauder, I mean?

[rustic rampart]

Never tried that on a marauder

Guess I'll have to sometime today

[burnt moss]

Which 2?

[rustic rampart]

Cultist base and ARC complex

[proven swift]

Oh using the auto on marauder when you stunt him with the hammer ?

[burnt moss]

I’ve done ARC ML on NM, which to do next?

[cold ivy]

Probably Cultist Base ML

[burnt moss]

Don’t want to buy it

[cold ivy]

Well it's the easiest of em all

So not missing much in terms of difficulty, I'd say go for Mars Core

[burnt moss]

That’s what I was thinking, but SGN ML is also a contender

[cold ivy]

The Master Level made me like a 10x better player