#doom-eternal
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i think my laptop wont handel it
Now I’m interested
wait when i reach max level and level up by 1 it gives me a star and resets it again and after that 2 stars when i reach max level after 2 stars i get 3 stars
i dont have a point
No it’s the game’s fault for being inconsistent. I’m a Nightmare player and I’m getting comfortable on Nightmare. The game decided to make Nightmare harder on TAG 1 than campaign and TAG 2. I mean, what if you went to an Asian restaurant and the spice number “5” meant “moderately spicy” on the curry, but meant “fuck your tastebuds and the tastebuds of your descendants” if you ordered the Pad Thai?
i mean, it makes sense that tag1 which comes after the campaign, is harder then campaign 
it was a bit too much sure, but when they changed it it was already too late
Is Ancient Gods Pt. 1-2 worth getting?
Yes
definitely, with the year 1 pass they are both 15 bucks
during sale or something
It's 50% off for both so I was thinking of picking them both up
Are they just like the base game?
same gameplay yeah, but with only a tad added on
but dont get them both separately, get the year 1 pass
Harder and more replayable because you aren’t upgrading your equipment during.
But you can see that finishing TAG 1 on a lower difficulty is a smudge on someone’s record, right? It’s not like a Master Level that’s designed for bored UN players. It’s a continuation of the game, designed for everyone to play. So it’s hard to feel ok with dropping the difficulty
Does that mean I can only play it for 1 year?
No it means you’re getting everything that came out in the first year
no, it is a year 1 pass, meaning it includes everything in year 1. otherwise it would be called a 1 year pass
so that'll give me both parts?
Yes
cool! how much is that?
Depends on the platform and the day
PC
i mean, again, if you really put that much pride on what difficulty you play on it's a bit much of your own fault. cause they are trying to make them harder then final sin arenas
Tag 1 is harder than campaign and comparable AI works the same on same difficulty on both.
It's not inconsistent.
If enemy X had more health or did more damage in TAG than campaign then that would be inconsistent.
Just knocked down my first marauder!!!
God this guy will be a pain to deal with around other enemies
it is
the dogs are a pain in the ass
What?
I mean okay you want to talk with someone but dont yell like that man 
Agreed
I second this
I usually kill the phantom dogs that Marauders summon with the Combat Shotgun, probably with a few Sticky Bombs if my aim is good, then I usually kill a nearby fodder demon to get my ammo back
Oh you can kill them?
hmm yes, i cant kill an enemy in this shooter game
See I'm not sure what prior knowledge led to that assumption
Uh the tutorial pop up
I'm tryna figure out what prior knowledge led to me assuming i can't kill them
i only turn off tutorials when i know everything
Do note that you won't be able to use the chainsaw on Marauders
they are super heavys
Oh I didn't turn them off
That I'm aware of
Okay I got it
you can only chainsaw fodder and heavys with 3 gas
I think I assumed you couldn't shoot em because the one wolf never bothered me enough to try killing it
i hate friendly fire it summons the dog
Wdym?
the dog only appears when you shoot the marauder wrong
How do I shoot the marauder wrong?
example shoot it without green signal and fodder attacks can summon dog
yes 2
Bc I've had a dog just disappear
Mmm
How did despawn autocorrect to DeShawn?
I have seen two dogs with two marauders, or in the Davoth fight, but never two dogs for one marauder
do note that enemies hitting the shield also causes a dog to be summoned
the davoth fight was torture for me before but after that it was fun
Oh that kinda sucks
Do the dogs disappear on their own after a bit?
I don't know...
nah, the pathfinding doesn't allow them to jump off a ledge or anything
i like to ssg balista grenade marauder for maximum damage
Ah then I guess I did kill the dogs
Bc one of em just disappeared on me, then another spawned not long after
Probably accidentally blew it up, they are pretty fragile
marauder dog looking wonky cause they just miss 60% of their code 
Oh wait the marauder tip doesn't say anything about shooting the wolves
It's probably in his codex, which I should probably read
I may be an idiot now, but someday I'll beat ultra nightmare
i mean.... why would it
The wolves are an obstacle
Probably referring to the wolf tutorial then
i think it's fair to assume the player would you know, shoot things
Fortunately, the one wasn't too much of a bother
For now at least
Good for you
using mbeam is the easiest way to just get rid of it
yep
Ooh that'll be helpful when I see these guys again later on
OR, you could spam random shit
Of course, less effective, but double the fun!
I major in Product Promotion
Agreed
I major in Product Demotion
Oh no
We are enemies
The Doom Hunters they threw into UAC was an interesting surprise
Although I'm assuming these ones are weaker than the bosses because once I took them off their wheelchairs it only took one lock on with the rocket to euthanize them
I love fighting them
holy shit their flying booster type thing is basically just a flying wheelchair
they are
2 years and I never thought of that!?
You’re talking about consistent inputs, and I expect consistent outcomes. What’s the point of choosing a difficulty if it doesn’t mean I get to choose how hard the game will be?
Quite literally the degraded boss as a normal enemy
The enemy ai, damage per attack and all that jazz is the same. That is what they change with the difficulty
at least you don’t see the gladiator after his boss fight :/
🤔 but...it is? except that the ramp up in difficulty was just more then you expected
Hard game is.. hard?
WHAA!!?!?!
holy shit…
Green dog on Exultia taught the player that ghostly dogs are ambient, not something you can interact with
G R E E N D O G
How is that a difficulty issue?
except that those also dont attack you 
skill issue
it's like saying the betrayer teaches you that sentinels are ambient, and thus you cant kill the marauder
valen is a brother from another mother
If you couldn’t kill the marauder, nobody would finish the game
how is it?? same general concept
on that level
oh is that not sarcasm?
or is it all sarcasm…
Yeah you can boil it down to fighting a wheelchair bound veteran on life support
That sounds fun
There's a difference between skill level difficulty (enemy aggressiveness, damage etc) and encounter design.
TAG 1 is harder than campaign due to its encounter design.
There's a learning curve to the difficulty presented by that.
Difficulty as dictated by skill level is the exact same between DLC and base game.
So you’re trying to say UACA is just as hard on NM as Urdak is on NM?
No, I would like to reference the above message by AsiJu as my point
If I control the difficulty then there shouldn’t be a ramp up. If the game is just going to get inherently harder, don’t bother pretending I control the difficulty by giving me options
ok so final sin should be just as hard as hell on earth, right?
The AI, the attack damage, the aggressiveness and how they function is the same. It is just how the encounter is designed with the arena, what spawns when, how much spawns, and what spawns to compliment it and where. That is where the difficulty is. And if you want consistent encounters that are the same the game will be boring
I completely understand how this isn’t on topic, but what’s everyone’s favorite demon?
Maybe I’m just against adjustable difficulty as a whole.
but you do: easier difficulty = less aggressive enemies who do less damage and use their "heavy" attacks less often
Indeed you can use this to compensate for increase in encounter difficulty until you master the content.
The logic that
if (base game nightmare) = easy,
then (dlc nightmare) = easy
doesn't really make sense
Actually I take that back, I’m against leaving the game design the same on each difficulty
100GB holy💀
I wish I spoke English
Also the truth is TAG 1 is or feels harder because it emphasizes knowing your arsenal and using your equipment way stricter than campaign did
not really feasible with how the industry works. but i am however against bad adjustable difficulty, where they just give enemies more HP and damage on higher difficulties to where they just are tanks for no reason.
Halo legendary
can i talk about lore
On paper a baron on ITYTD and NM are going to require the same effort, but in game with their behaviour changes a Baron is much harder on Nightmare, which I love
Agreed.
Doom Eternal handles difficulty exceptionally well, enemy that dies to 4 rockets on easiest dies to 4 rockets on hardest too.
Congrats! you just did!
wowwww
depends, it shouldnt change too drastically cause otherwise you're just making multiple games at that point, and it shouldnt make it so that the jump up with new mechanics to learn is really that much either.
lets go
yeah, and the damage ramp up isnt that extreme, and on NM they dont do stupid damage from what i can remember
Goldeneye did it well. It increased damage, and enemy HP, and armor drops, and even threw in extra turrets on higher difficulty.
One Imp doing like 80 damage with a fireball
barons of hell and cyber tyrants are fun to fight
But ya know just go flllflfll flame belch! And it comes back
even on nightmare
flame is life
it's very easy to restack, and in the end you have enough health to where 80 isnt drastic
Comically easy
Goldeneye also allowed you to unlock 007 mode where you could ramp up damage 1000%
I mean eternal could have difficulty specific enemy spawns too but on the other hand having the same spawns on all difficulties makes learning encounters easier too
also, higher difficulties give more "tickets" which determine how many enemies can fire at you at a specific time which is also quite great 
Goldeneye didn’t need master levels as much as Doom Eternal because its higher difficulties were different.
goldeneye????
very different type of shooters too, I wouldn't really compare them direct
When did the conversation become about goldeneye
Goldeneye was basically fps prototype for console
yeah, by mostly just tanking up HP and damage from what ive heard. eternal has a bit different motto with difficulty then that
I’m using it as an example of how Eternal could be improved
ig that makes sense…?
I mean if the points were valid it would
also having higher difficulty just increase enemy damage and HP is very artificial difficulty to me
But apparently the best way to make Eternal's difficulty better is to have an imp that can tank two rockets
i mean, it depends on how much. eternal increases damage, just not HP
DE added lasers to master levels the way Goldeneye added extra turrets in higher difficulty
hp is quite.... meh. something that really should be decreased for only the lowest difficulty i feel like
and those lasers are level locked, not difficulty locked
the damage increase is somewhat artificial diff. in eternal too imo, but a case can be made NM uses the "default" damage whereas lower difficulties have reductions in place
Which is why I think Goldeneye did that part better.
yeah fair. and at the highest it doesnt really feel absurdly high aswell
I’ll concede on enemy HP; I hated having to full auto a Russian soldier’s face to take him down.
the description for NM actually says "enemies do MAXIMUM damage", kinda implying the same as "full" damage
i LOVE shooting 18 rockets just to kill a hellknight!!!!
Hi?
I don’t think full vs default makes a difference.
still, I dare say it would be even better if enemy damage too was constant between difficulty levels and higher difficulties just ramp up aggressiveness and tokens even more, perhaps
It would be cool if the demon AI worked together to kill you like F.E.A.R AI does
okay ITYTD could have enemy damage reduction
There’s an idea.
hmm taking damage from a lot of different sources sounds bit less to me ngl
It does to an extent, but not nearly as much as F.E.A.R
especially in arenas without much enemies
good encounter design almost makes that happen.
Also FEAR really relied on the corridor like layouts for the AI to work.
It is impressive to date, but in retrospect it was a little smoke and mirrors
Actually (metaphorically) arming your enemies with semi-auto on lower difficulty, then switching them to full auto on higher difficulty does seem realistically harder
I’m confused what else are they doing during the fight aside from flanking, shooting fireballs at you, or trying to hit you 🤨
Oh yeah fosure
F.E.A.R AI would like say initiate a flank on your right to draw your attention, and then retreat to allow a two man flank on your left to happen while they throw a grenade at you, they try to stay alive and make space to work together. But it did rely heavily on the design and layout of maps
It would be pretty hard to make it like that for DOOM but some elements could be cool. But I'm just some 17 year old I know nothing about AI design
In FEAR you could have a group of soldiers in front of you but one of them would take a different route to get behind you and shotgun your head off
I feel like Doom shouldn’t coordinate its demons. They’re all individually trying to kill you and that’s it
yeah this
Hey guys, I get what you’re saying about difficulty, but would you be ok with it if the campaign worked the same way? Where maybe you only beat up through Gladiator on NM and the rest of the game you could only beat on UV?
I am confused
enemy counts would need to be higher in places yeah, changing how the difficulty scaling works would ofc need reworking encounters too
ok yeah didnt thought about that
No need for more enemies if each one deals higher dps
i'm pretty sure some enemies are kinda made to try and flank somewhat i thought, like whiplashes
But yeah, possibly the game would be slightly easier on lower difficulties that way, but it could also be notably harder in higher diffs
no, the idea was exactly that enemy damage remains constant
okay enemy aggressiveness increases, yeah
You get me now? Damage per shot stays the same, shots per second increases, ergo dps increases.
I bet they do. But I was thinking of an interview Hugo did back before Eternal, when he said PE are good to get you to look up and make the smaller guys have achance to get in there. I was thinking just some slight elaboration on that. Where like a bigger demon will try to create an opening for little fellas. I don't quite know what I would like though and truth be told I quite love how Eternal's AI works already
That definitely happens already. When engaging a super heavy I get mobbed by fodder
Just play the floor is lava, they can't mob you if you aren't on the ground
Why I love Air control rune
It’s not that simple. Often even a Tyrant can only be accessed from a couple of vantage points, due to obstructions. That’s what makes me want to stay in one place.
"one area" can still be quite big to where you can move around in it
Take Blood Swamp Trials for instance. Archies like to spawn under roofs, so there’s like 2 access points
Tyrants on TN ML can’t be targeted from across the arena so you have to be upstairs with them. About 2-4 spots you can shoot from.
For TN ML we talking about the Archie room?
No the pool arena
The statue blocks your view of the tyrants
That is an incredibly rare and circumstantial situation. The entire game is not like that
You don't meathook jump off the Tyrants. You can meathook jump off of any fodder to get a better vantage point of said Tyrants.
Once you get near the Tyrants you can start dealing with them, and Maykr Drones will come up the stairs to you so you can get free restack constantly in that arena
If you were on the 2nd level you can jump jump meathook off of an enemy from the 1sr floor jump jump and you'll definitely be able to shoot the Tyrants from that high up
And even within thqt area there is more then enough space to move around. You domt need to be crossing the arena every 2 seconds
I’m just talking about the limited firing positions that make me try to stand still. I’m trying to make the point that once I leave a firing position I often have to navigate to the next firing position rather than staying engaged with the enemy the whole time.
You shouldn't be staying still
uhm.... can you not move and shoot at the same time?
I’m talking about obstacles that will be in my way while I move
I mean, you can stay engaged with the same enemy while moving.
just cause you look away for a moment meathook somewhere or ballista somewhere, doesn't mean you're not engaging with the same enemy. Repositioning is still engaging with said enemy if it helps your gameplay of defeating said enemy
I’m talking about obstacles like walls, pillars, and statues.
Basic situational awareness?
Yeah like if I am trying to move back and come to a sudden stop I usually jump and move left or right and just get around it
If you move and look around a bit you should be able to generally know how far you can move left till hitting a wall
Let alone on max fov
Will that allow me to fire through the statue while I cross the arena to the next platform from which I can fire?
An obstacle is any impenetrable object that obstructs your field of fire. Not just something you bump into, in this case.
Just.... dont shoot through the statue? The area where those 2 tyrants are is spacious enough to where you can move around up there
OMFG when DE crashes right before the end of Taras Nabad ML...
An "obstacle" is a very broad term
There is the archway on the one side, and the archway on the other side. Other than that you have to be on the stairs

But the position being limited just means it incentivizes you to get better at the movement to either get to new positions or to get higher in the air and shoot at it from the air.
But your suggestion indicates you thought I was just bumping into things.
Not really... the whole floor where the tyrants stand is also an option
It does sound like that
And ofc above the floor but thats a given
You implied it as such
You mean here? #doom-eternal message
"In the way while I move" to me seems like you are running into objects
Sounds like you would bump into them otherwise 
I talked a ton about blocking my view right before that
But then you said "In the way while I move" not "In the way of my firing line"
I dunno, I feel like the placement of those Tyrants is fine. The whole point is they're going to snipe you while you theoretically 'push your way toward them while avoiding lasers", at least assuming minimal to no movement tech.
But you can also meathook jump up to the archways and approach them "safely" from there, or you can meathook jump off enemies and Ballista boost to approach fast AND safe, but requiring skill.
The placement of those Tyrants introduces at least 3 varying approaches to the same fight, all of which are plausible/fine approaches
Also btw volden, you can move next to the tyrants fyi, not all the way around the arena 
Anyways gotta eat, laties
When I say across the arena, I mean just going around the statue to the other staircase
Them being out of your line of sight inherently changes how you SHOULD approach that fight, and adds depth since there isn't inherently one way to approach them quickly.
Plus you could still theoretically PB Ballista or PB rocket them from the opposite side of the arena since they'll start going down the stairs, and there's no obstructions from the opposite side of the arena pointing to the Tyrants spanws
Sounds like a very slow and around way to move
True. I thought we’d already established I was talking about my field of fire
That’s because meathook only works half the time on tyrants so it’s either around the statue or attempt to go over the tyrants and die
mhook works fine on tyrants, the issue is that there's a lot of geometry in that area that can break the chain on contact.
What do you mean by safely? That archway is a dead end so I can only stand there for a couple seconds. And then where do I move to?
So you know those outcroppings where the Barons would spawn? You can dash over to there, and then go through that "hallway" toward the Tyrants
Once they start moving down the stairs, correct. Remember this is just an example of how the game requires you to be in one of only a few places to engage a superheavy. While they are at the top of the stairs, I can’t just run circles around them so I have to engage, then move to a new spot where I can see them again, and then engage again.
Back through the archways?
I don't know man. I'ma be honest that arena is easy at this point, and I couldnt explicitly explain why or how to do it, but it's one of the easiest parts of TN ML.
The issue is that, throughout the game, I can’t get the meathook to target a Tyrant quickly.
That arena is really hard for me. Takes me hours. Not much cover and too many demons
I think if I'm up at the Tyrants specifically I just meathook jump and go "past" them so they have to turn around. But it's easy for me to do something like that.
Constantly meathook jump so you have a view of the arena, and always know where Maykr Drones are. Then do hook - PB to get full health and ammo from the drones
Any arena that has drones should be incredibly easy because you can full heal off of them
But I need to move like 5-10 times to kill them off.
Sk kw?
You can quickswap kill em fairly fast
Typo
you know how there's a really bright red glow long before they spawn? yeah you can react to that and not dash into it
Gonna send you something Vold, gimme a sec
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I can’t deal 20k damage “fast”
don't contribute to discussion on a public platform 😱
You can, actually
10k
And even then tyrants have only 10k health, a quick dblade into a freeze bomb and LOB spam is simple enough.
it's not that hard to make the connection that small glow = small enemy, and big glow = big enemy
Idk man, but a giant bright red glowing spawning stuff is fking easy to keep slightly track off
idk about you but i'm pretty concerned about what's happening right in front of me
You have a multitude of ways of ways to not even be in that theoretical situation whatsoever
just don't be stupid
The chances of that happening are so miniscule that it happens barely, and when it does you have quite a bit of other movement and defensive capabilities to compensate
The zombies would only spawn if you just killed other zombies or fodder. So if you just killed fodder, be cognizant that they might spawn behind you then.
"That too hatd stop being such a perfectionist elitist asshole"
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Also as a general how low are the chances that you stay on the ground with meathooking, a simple collision isn't much of a roadblock
After 1200 hours I don't think I've ever seen that happen 
Wouldn't the bp just kill the garg lmao
Just seems a hurdle honestly, a bit of meathooking would eliminate it entirely
The game has too many movement options for me to consider this an actual problem
if it's that close then the splash would either kill or leave it low enough that dashing into it would kill anyway
If you dash back into a zombie, unless you were already touching the zombie (which you should have noticed because you wouldn't have been moving backwards), the dash will have still moved you a little bit, even if it stopped a tiny amount. And if you're doing single dashes, you can then do your next dash to the left or right (or jump and dash backwards)
LOB takes forever
Jump over them? It is like second nature for me to jump and move left or right if I bump into something and go dead stop where I shouldn't be
Slob perhaps? 
this chat rn scares me
No, it doesn't
Dashing while targeting allows you to evade 90% of the projectiles thrown at you, and you mantain full mobility while using it
I bet Bloodhshot has been caught off guard in his like first 100 hours, just learned from em and it doesn't happen anymore
Learning spawns? 
It is how I fiigured out how to meathook to a cyber manc and bloodpunch em without taking a goo round to the face
I sure wish I knew how to read
except it does hit behind you, the splash damage is a circle around the impact point.
No need to do something this tedious, basic mobility and awareness will get you through
nooo, learning spawn positions is too much of a hassle 😭

that's literally going into the no fun zone 😦
learning spawns seems like an absolute hassle
Learning the spawns leads you into that scenario of never making mistakes
I mean you end up learning them anyway by just playing the level a bunch 
Guys? Learning the game makes you good at the game??
Well I apologize for giving my advice/opinion on the matter. I have been caught off guard by shotgun soldiers shooting me after a poorly decided dash.
I've also accidentally gotten too close to a Mancubus who deleted me.
I have never done a blood punch and dashes backward into an enemy who spawned immediately behind me, as was the fucking context of your situation.
I still do
WOAHHHHHHHH
ha noob /s
You make it sound as if it's something utterly elusive state to not die from such a simple thing as colliding. The game even on the hardest difficulty leaves quite a bit of room for error and even allows absolutely unbalanced mods like CG shield. This might happen and I don't think it is anything that actually hampers gameplay.
what about killing enemies that are in your way 
blocks? no, how the armor works is that it takes increased damage from blood punch. everything else does regular, unscaled damage to it as if it were a regular manc.
You can blow off chunks of the armour and target those sections for normal damage
BP does a buttload of damage though 

I do blood punch Mancubi. Normally, I do frag - hook - SSG - blood punch.
I never had an instance where I walked up to a Cyber mancz blood punches him, and immediately dashed backwards into fodder that spawned behind me
holy fuck does this guy actually play the game
blatently untrue
Except that the armor doesn't make any difference, it's only visual
It hurts trying to read all of this
damage spreadsheet immediately disproves this btw
which is made by lying NOOBS smh my head
Source: Trust me bro
cmancs have 6000 hp, bp does 4000 damage in this instance. everything else does regular damage. example: ssg will do the full 1600 damage it's supposed to, if all pellets land. the armor breaking is purely a cosmetic thing, because bp will do 4000 damage with the armor on or off.
ok but why?
Nutmilk you make me giggle far too much
I am a product demoter
nut milk is the best name I have ever fucking heard lmfao
and I’m a product promoter… huh
This is false. The damage sheet is pinned in this chat, Cyber Mancubus take extra damage from blood punch but this has nothing to do with the 'armor" they wear. They still take the same damage from other weapons as other enemies, and the armor doesn't affect anything.
There is war here lol
I thought they had 6k hp?🤔
except that the codex simply isnt telling the truth
well, it does remove the armour. its just that the armour does nothing
The armour doesn't make them invincible, you can just shoot em a lot
Sorry if I shouldn't have contributed to this public chat with facts and logic, my apologies. 
Alright Ben "BloodShot9001" Shapiro
A simple one word "ok" would've avoided this entire arguement😎
Correct, padawan
@brittle quest

sorry wrong franchise
I like the nickname I gave
It fits well
I like to see this
all the codex says is "weakness: blood punch. blood punch will deal massive damage and destroy its armor." that's a direct quote. yes it's kinda badly phrased, i can see how one could read that as "the armor absorbs damage until it's broken" but that's not the case.
Or do you?
The tutorial is misleading then, because I thought the BP was about the Armor as well
Yeah the codices are kinda misleading
explaining is one thing the game doesnt do all too well sometimes 
Biggest DOOM Eternal weakness
It’s so funny to me, that I don’t know what any of you are saying
I think He'll Knights have a "weakness to Mobile Turret", but they don't really, it's just that MT does decent damage and enemies stagger after a certain amount of damage
So mt is ok at doing that from far away
Did you guys know that you can use the plasma rifle to destroy the doom hunter's barrier!? it's the best way of dealing with them!!
like every time i see people complaining about enemy specific weakness, feeling it's wayyy too rock-paper-scissorry... even though it really isnt. they just read the codex entries and do exactly as they say. like killing hell-/dreadknights/barons solely with chaingun cause thats what the codexes say 
Plasma the DH
or only use nades on cacos
I use microwave beam to falter the pinky and then usw full auto to kill it and gain sheelss back😎 😎 😎
Every enemy is actually just lock on burst and or freeze
yes, it's more rock-paper-gun 
Trueee.
Just PB rocket 
/S
what? that absolutely does matter, something like pb > rl > slob x2 kills about as fast as bp > ssg, and that would never work if the armor was immune to everything but bp. @wispy garden
GO GO GADGET FIREARMS!
I’ve used Chaingun more since our last turret argument. And I do think the Chaingun has more “stopping power” which allows me to finish killing them in one go, while stationary.
Nah that takes 2% more skill i dont wanna
that's not what i'm saying. i'm talking about people who read that in the codex entry and think it's the only/best way to kill them and then dont do anything else
Are there people who believe everything the codex says about demons? Unexpected
being stationary in eternal
Ain't no way
tbf it is literally the info the game gives you 
read that sentence again and then think about how that applies to you
you can literally do it ingame right now wut
Some of us are rule followers
Let's talk about tips on how to kill them like the infernal baron I kill him with shotgun and ballista
What debating with full confidence and incomplete knowledge leads to😔
The duality of man
Sigh what’s the argument about. I read it but he’s already been disproven so I might have missed something
@patent stream basically this but for shade
He got mad at lucitik because him and a few others were talking to Voldeneye about how to do a certain arena fight
neither does you insisting that bp does damage in an arc and that cyber mancs are immune to everything but bp.
I’ll have you know I have gotten better at reversing and LOB Barons since we argued about situational awareness haha
nice!
I would say it was more debate and less argue
I freeze, full auto, micro missle a bit, do a remote det falter and end in a microwave beam blast😋

BP just looks cool when you break a cyber mancs armor. But for the most part I just arbelast mobile turret ballista or lock on
Kills em fast enough
I just do the fast switch whit guns

This though
Were you there?
@wispy gardenthis you?
😦
50/50 on this being a troll or just dumb 
Both? They came in here swingin'
this is basically the same though
no, that's not a strawman. i misquoted you because i didn't bother going back to read what you actually said which is "bp absorbs all other attacks". me being wrong in good faith is not misconstruing your comments, which is precisely what the message i'm replying to does.
No, it does not. It is only visual and doesn't absorb or nullify any damage. Changing the sequence of BP and SSG won't make any difference.
that is saying they are immune to damage before armor is taken off... cause hte armor is everywhere around his body
I think when you used the word “absorb” it made us think you thought armor on a cybermanc doesn’t take damage
guys did u know the best way to kill demons is shooting them???!!?!?!
I like to punch em

imma ping mkain
Fist em
Angry buttsex

u fist demons😳




bruh
That's true, you just die to zombies spawning behind you cause you're that good 

i haven't said a word about memorizing spawns.
Rip and Tear 
You’re losing allies by attacking people personally
Im mostly just busting balls at this point 
You are a meanie jerkface you dirty sucker!
their ass
In all fairness, I get blocked leaving a gk or chainsaw by demons and also walls
Sorry about my language guys
Aw, you guys made me ink!

Joker Arc

stupid (sorry about my language)
Why are you here if you don’t care about burning bridges? The people you are insulting can help make you a better player.
does he know?
then why are u here
El no sabe 
I don’t even know
Yeah @burnt moss kick him out of the server as a non-moderator 
Get em!
Can't you? You're green!
just give volden admin perms sm
Who’s running this?
Holy
He has to sacrifice a billion goats first
Voldeneye for id software president 
more like el no sabes nada


Trooper
oops

nooooo pls no ban
finally, a good fucking doomgame
Kick me outta the server. idgaf
Kick me outta the server. idgaf
Kick me outta the server. idgaf
Glad we got some much needed levity
We interrupt this campaign to inform you that Volden has received a warning
Anyone wanna be my bf for 12 hours btw?
for which part?
SOLD!
For the performing certain acts upon certain mammals
Guys! He is back, and in a big way!
oh hell no
Who even are you
go talk to girls
Tell us your age and you’ll get banned
Why does it take so much to loud into a match
You can just leave, you know that right?
Try again
ShadeFrost#0655, 5.213.43.85, iran
Yeah I herby concede the campaign due to unseemly jokes
I was under the assumption we were discussing the game mechanics of Doom Eternal and how to improve in different circumstances in Doom Eternal.
Whether someone is curt about their advice they're still trying to help someone improve
That's kinda hot ngl
He needs a monke Explanation
Nah drama queen needs to make their exit as flantabulous and extrogavenator as possible
o o a a
I mean, lucitik can be a bit demeaning but Bloodshot and Nutmilk are perfectly civil.
Bob why do you like that gif so much
Caught in 4k
ur perfect
Perfectly ahgbuhygyhsay!
What they said
What uh whats perfect about it

Is that the new jurrasic world?
ban for offtopic
Vote to ban
Good, kick me from the discord. Idgaf
Vote to ban for defiance
This gif seems much better tbh, the first one annoys me due to it not aligning with the mouth and instead hitting the lower jaw
Yes, I have it copy pasted
sorry i identify as a triple a battery
hits lower jaw
enemy still bites you cause you hit his mouth shut
ALL I DO IS WIN WIN WIN NO MATTER WHAT!
How many and which DOOM games have you platinized? Yall
The gif isnt even high resolution, until then, its not perfect, invalid opinion might say
You are not high resolution.
shut up milk
Boom roasted
But seriously who’s modding here?
Him
bobtheBob
Modding? I don’t know enough about pcs for that
Who said my pfp is perfect 
The lining of the hammer with the Tigrex charge, it's simply magnificent
Sorry who’s a moderator
"guys its not 4k 🤓"
Dat me
I'm the moderator.
Did you give me that warning then?
Okay bird
I'm THE moderator
No
Well I’m the real shady
Not a moderator. THE moderator
blood
Oh captain my captain
Thats almost my name, yeah
bob is my lover
How does it work? Did the computer catch it?
Good for you mean good luck on that lover thing
Fully supportive
thank u
I prefer cooked bread. He’s a liar

yeah man no problem
Bob is cheating on uncooked bread 
So I can’t talk about my own warnings, or you and I can’t discuss any actions you take against me?
damm
Yes
Odd
Can I still get the multiplayer PS trophies in BATTLEMODE 2.0?
I’m pretty sure my last warning was just saying “pee” in eternal chat so your best bet is to just accept the warning and move on
@jaunty vapor what does that mean?
At least you didn't say poo
How many warnings do I get? Actually, where’s this rule book
In the read me
It means yes.
i shitposted on doom discord
Tanks
Warn limit is 5 iirc
hi
Hi
hi mkain
Never writed in the chat and i will never do
Wot
he never writed he said
Writed
writed
writed
writed
Let’s not make fun of someone whose first language might not be English
Hey bob quick question
Im from italy
we can make fun of marauder
epic country
hows mario
Hes dead
before you lets say 'officially' get a warn a mod or something tells you youve got one? and does like !warn thing or something, just wondering really
No
aww
?
Luigi replaced him
The first official official warning will appear in your dm from modmail.
even better
If you get a verbal warning it is not included in the strikes

Not epic country
If you have dms disabled you won’t Receive a dm from the bot
Ah great i suspected that at some point of verbal warnings i would get an actual strike
I am all clean 
why
If you say get a verbal warning and then do it again you get official
Usually
I prefer to personally verbal warn as much as possible cuz none of us are perfect
Unless it’s something just really stupid
Some banned words are stupid in my opinion though
i am perfect idk about you 
Like you cannot say the word that starts with si and ends with p
True.
Eh it’s there for numerous reasons. Every banned word is either insanely shitposting or spammed to the point of absolute irritation. Or used very negatively
😳🥺
Government, racism, homophobia, baby gang, machismo, fæscism, næzi, toxic feminism, cat calling etc
fae what
fascism
And whats wrong with toxic? i mean its bad but its used everywhere, verbal toxicity its bad though

listen that sucks ik, but most of that applies to every country on earth, its okay.
Italy does has good stuff about it
Not only verbal lol
Real world politics are against the rules
Btw right now I’m mad that there is not a list of banned words
Just don't say slurs or more vile internet slang/words just generally known as more innapropriate 
Yeah there are worst country i know but italy its not safe also we have mafia btw
daily reminder that cocks isnt banned yet 
Me too
how about we stop discussing real world politics, okay?
Even my warning was unacceptably vague. Considering warnings don’t fall off ever.
Better idea
If you have an issue with it send a modmail
i hate studying french
I finally got to slayer tier in horde mode...I so excited that I am posting it everywhere
👍
What is that, and what could it accomplish?
Absolutely nothing if you recall the comment you made that warranted the warning
Not to be rude but not a lot of people care about such things, congrats though!
I and others make similar jokes regularly that don’t result in warnings. I thought that meant offcolor humor was tolerated here
I mean the joke was pretty
ngl
Worse than the marauder?
That's pretty light compared to what was stated by you earlier
I think that’s subjective. But I agree that it’s a bit darker
best combo for mancubus at early lvls?
Well I just wasted 10 dollars cause my idiot brain bouth the one that doesn't have the ancient gods part one 
Can I buy part one directly?
Ice bomb is great for dealing with multiple like in Cultist Base
what do i do with the praetor suit points after i fully upgraded it?
Nothing
wowi
It’s extra so u don’t have to 100% the game to max out
Doom 2016 did this too but it had like 30 extra tokens or something
U can
Then buy 1 from steam?
I bouth a pack that dosent have part one in it
Then buy 1?
I already bouth 1
Then I’m confused what’s your issue
Then buy part 1
Then that will cost me 15$
Tends to be how buying works yes
I just wanna buy part one only
And part 1 costs $15
The pack
With part one in it
So that means part one is 5$
Part 1 is $15
Or 15€
Then why did I got part 2 just for 10€
💀
The Ancient Gods – Part One is the first campaign expansion for the critically acclaimed DOOM Eternal. Your war is not over… slaying the Khan Maykr left an imbalance of power that threatens all of creation. The legions of Hell have razed the heavens, threatening to expand their control across dimensions. With the aid of an old ally, battle your...
$9.99
4125
Yea I bouth that one
Clickbait! its $9.99 mod gives false information!1
Year one pass is $15 rn. If you can refund tag 2 you can get both for $15
Any idea on how to unlock this "icon of sin" podium ? I came back to a long break and forgot alot of stuff
It's from classic doom 2 marine set
Play more horde mode
I though when it said "the accident gods" was the part one
If you want
Horde chat is just for a more specialized focus
Then what would Part 2 be?
You won't get it
So I bouth part two and not part one in it
So now I wanna buy part one only
Why? They’ll both appear in game anyway
By both parts then just play Part 1 first
So just buy Part 1 separately.
What’s the issue
💀
I don’t understand
.
I just wanna buy part one only and still have part two that I payed 10$ so then that would make it 15$
You know you can just buy part one by itself and have both parts then
You can still buy Part 1 if you already have Part 2. What platform are you playing on?
You can buy it alone on Steam and it won’t get rid of the pack you bought with part 2
H o w
Did you buy TAG 2 when you wanted to buy TAG 1?
Buy it
I wanted to buy them both
doom eternal? isnt that a credit company?
Yea but that cost 10$ too
Can you buy the Year One pass?
Yea but then I have refund the 10$ one
Well if it hasn’t been 2 weeks and you have less then 2 hours on it then you can still refund it and buy the Year One Pass
Also what does it mean by one year pass?
Comes with TAG 1 and 2 and some extra cosmetics I believe
How much does it take to refund?
Costs nothing
How much time
For me it’s taken around a day or 2
I believe the summer sales ends on the 7th yes
higuys
I doom play
Rip and tear 
How do you feel about flowers and cats?
If I answer that I’ll get another warning
Why would you though
Because of the thing with the goats
I love them 😇
I dont think it would be worthy of a warn
The goats were
No they weren't, you fucking them was however
What goats i wasnt really there when it apparently
happened
That’s what I meant
Good!
Ah fucking, wow you have some interesting thoughts
Well I was theoretically about to sacrifice them in order to become the owner of the server or something
It was proposed that I become a mod, but that I’d have to sacrifice a million goats first
And then, I asked for permission. A simple no would have sufficed
Yup, I can go pretty extreme
So do your thoughts about flowers and cats parallel with your thoughts about goats?
With much intensity
Yikes
You have no idea
Disclaimer, this is all jokes
Anyone know a good place or way to farm Event XP without doing Sentinel Prime or the Tag DLC?
And I don't do battle mode and I already finished my weekly challenges for this week
I mostly do the campaign and horde mode for xp
Welp... time to get to doing the usual thing....
Time to rip and tear...
Sup?

there is room for other languages other than English
O.o
I got the golden skin for the slayer
Nice
hi
Hello
“We need 24 channels per language NOW!!!!” 

yall the pain elemental toy in taras nabad is hard to get
This is elon musk
Use chrono strike (slow down time)
yes
i randomly picked it up i was punching randomly and it broke my wall for the toy
i was trying to shoot it
Rip and tear
yeah i dont know i didnt think of that
Best ost
lets go
Of course
thanks
But there is the only thing they fear is you that is really cool
All of ‘em are

overplayed
yall are wrong, the best is e1m1
I can't platinum classic doom

i am just well cultured
take a taco
See ya later I’m gonna sleep 🛌
Bye
nighty night
Night
That's one weird looking dog



Holt slayer gate 😦
yeah its rough. at launch it was piss easy and it was a real surprise when i replayed it again lol
It was already nerfed though
they nerfed it?
It was challenging before
wasnt challenging at launch.
They buffed it, then nerfed it twice
Sorry I did that
I remember when it had like 3 blood maykrs 3 doom hunters tyrants double arch etc
Possessed marauder with infinite carcass
They had to, they probably made too challenging for the average player
I did too, but it is better now for the majority of players which is how it should be imo
For a challenge, that's what ml are for
morbius x doom crossover when?
Sorry for interrupting, but idk where to post this
I may sound a bit stupid, but i have a problem with doom eternal.
When i open it, in the Teleporting screen, the game suddenly crashes but it doesn't open an error window, but it's not a performance problem (Probably). Please, help me, i can't wait to play the game and it sucks having this problem and not knowing how to fix it, thanks for reading.
thoughts about demonic slayer skin ?
I’ve gotten to the marauder a couple times but I cannot beat him
I’m gonna watch The Office to calm down and come back to it
i use the slow motion from the weapon wheel to my advantage
DOes anyone have a solution for this?
I've had this problem. Make sure your Graphics Drivers are up to date.
I checked earlier, they are correctly updated
Anyways, thanks so much for answering
Have you reinstalled or checked the install validity?
I don't know what you mean by that, but im gonna try
I just checked and... Luckily 12 files couldn't be validated and are downloading again. Once again, thanks a lot.
I just watched a play through of Holt Slayer Gate. My understanding is Zero Master is kind of a big deal, and even he took a while to take out the marauder. I think I’m just gonna skip it.
I think we'll need a lot of time to fix this, it just got worse and the game crashes in the bethesda icon. Can we DM?
sorry man. at this point google will be as much help as i will be
Ok, sorry for wasting your time and thanks for everything
No waste at all, good luck and keep trying!
buff totems look like argent accumulator
Ok
what's your approach against pos marauder?
Mobile turret
stick bombs
Stickies and arba haha
I bet I could get it eventually but it’s a matter of lasting long enough
I see, you good then
just get rid of the carcasses and start circling the arena shooting explosive shit at that mofo
Nah I gave up. It’s not worth it to me
it's the same principle as fighting dual marauders
well, I guess if you're not having fun it's ok to skip it, it's an optional encounter after all
Yeah stickies take a long time on regular marauders but pos is just ridiculous
it usually takes like a minute and a half for me
The video by Zero Master took 5 on that marauder alone
It offered me sentinel armor on the first death on Samur!
That's honestly a pretty bad strat against possessed due to his resistance. It'll take forever to kill him.
Either learn the mobile turret stunlock or just use weapon combos as regular.
I use ssg pb bal against possessed
Ssg first for the easiest stun
Even regular marauders rarely flash. With his window being so small, and there not being much space for a long-range approach, I don’t think I’m capable of stunning him
Possessed flash more often easily if you keep the appropriate distance as they attack more aggressively
Keeping distance is an extreme weakness of mine
Then work on it 🙂
Maybe I’ll try that one on my next NM run. But that Slayer Gate has me tired long before the marauder
HOLY CRAP THE GLITCH IS BACK
I’m now on round 2 and 3 of Samur
Welp, sentinel armor it is
Lol
Ok beat it. In the cut scene he and the pos were hovering because the pillars still haven’t moved, and the floor is still lava. So we all just dropped after the cutscene
Lmao so what now?
It recovered. But I think I’m on the last phase now, with two pos, blood Maykr, and lazers
Beat it! It went very badly though.
I had to kill 3 POS instead of just 2, because I failed to mwb the second one
I’m gonna go watch a video of what the phases are supposed to be like because it glitched last run, too.
OMG if you guys haven’t seen this you need to. Watch how he beats the Caco phase at about the 2:20 mark. I laughed out loud! https://youtu.be/kPJxCvoRqE0
Recorded pre Update 6 (Samur boss fight received a nerf). Wanted to officially complete all final bosses no damage (Icon of Sin, Dark Lord, Samur). Links at the end.
Taras Nabad ML Classic Mode Nightmare next!
Updated Settings
L1 - Weapon Wheel
L2 - Jump
R1 - Shoot
R2 - Weapon Mod
X - Punch
Square - Chainsaw
Triangle - Flame Belch
Circle - Use ...
Or she, idk who SmvR is
@opal galleon why do you cringe all my comments?
Death isn't a cringe though
I don't even know what to describe death it's just a face of agony I guess
I don't view it as cringe
should
I'm not trying to insult you or anything dawg dw
should i play doom eternal
talking to your self
rip and tear fella
❔
playing google chrome 2 hours elapsed
watching youtube
and i put it there for netflix night or some thing
It’s just that’s how you replied to my joke earlier too
The goat one?
DO IT! Let’s GOOO!
That wasn't so much cringe as it was me going "Oh" then me making the face
"Oh"
Perhaps I misuse it frequently, which if so then sorry, but I just like the emote as it pretty accurately describes my emotions to X thing I read here
Someone remind me in a few weeks that I hate the Holt. It is terrible
Yeah the caco phase is time based so you can just keep staggering the same cacos, or even ride one of them, lol
Also the shield glitch he uses in the last phase has been patched out, fyi
It’s hilarious how he’s like “This…is not how it was meant to be” after watching the slayer ride the Caco
Looking for one player in battlemode to do trophies
i have 41 out of 50 achievements/82%
Why are the playable tutorials keep telling me I don't have permission
We solved it in Dms
Every christmas if you are good
Mmm okay
Pretty sure that line originated from Hugo watching speedruns, lel
Speaking of speedruns, GDQ one is dope.
guns should be used in glory kills
Hey guys I just finished Doom Eternal
Wanna play battlemode ?
battlemode was a pain to 100% for trophies
no srry and im in pc
sad
my least favorite was bloodbath
I am doing it and it is
wait, you're on ps5 too?
yep
im down to do battlemode
Ho nice
i had doom eternal 100%ed on the ps4 version
Need a third person
the ps5 upgrade didn't keep the data
sad
At least ^^
yep
if you find a third personn tell me
person
alright
Completism going good on First file 
Myker
mikr
Do you get your battlemode reward for beeing in the top 100 at the end of the summer event? Because i didnt get mine for beeing in the top 100.
It should’ve reset today, but leaderboard rewards do take a while to get released
I’d say wait a day, and if that don’t work send Bethesda a ticket
Ok
mkainer
mommymkiner
?
Need some advice, slayers: do I wait (or hope) for a sale of the Year One pass on the MS store so I can play the DLC on my Game Pass copy of DE, or do I just buy the deluxe edition of DE on the Steam sale right now for the same price as the pass on the MS store? I'm just not keen to have to do all the progression AGAIN.
nothing
Periphane
hi
balls
I need an answer to this question,
Who could kill the Doomslayer
In my opinion I think kratos with his chain swords could kill doomguy
Anyone able to hit him a few times 
Doom slayers armor can be penetrated and his skin can’t be either. Also even without his gun he still got the crucible and he can rip apart a Demi god with just his bare hands. So idk abt that one. But that’s just my opinion
Buy it on steam, you'll have access to mods as well.
Yeah typically steam refunds games if they’re less than 2 weeks in your library iirc
well i played more than 2 hours
And…? What I’m saying is, you have a two week window after buying it, to refund it, at least on steam
💀 bruh i played more than 2 hours not weeks
None of this is true. He never rips apart a demigod with his bare hands; the suit can be penetrated, just not by conventional weaponry; his skin can also be penetrated, as the UAC found blood samples from him on Mars.
He's not invincible or anything. He's just very strong, very fast, and very persistent. Logically the demons could very easily tear Doomguy in half... if they could catch him. And they never do.
And I’m saying you playing for more than two hours DOESNT MATTER. You can still refund the game, as long as the two week window is still up. For example: say I buy eternal today on steam. I have until the 14th of July to refund it
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