doom-eternal

[burnt moss]

Update: you die

[azure oriole]

rip

[keen owl]

So there's something I noticed about doom eternal, particularly the difference between most versions and the switch version.

On the switch version, the HUD seems to be pushed up right to the edges of the screen, regardless if you're playing docked or handheld mode

But every other system, it's a little more inset towards the center

I've never been able to figure out why.

[burnt moss]

On my TV it’s inset

[mossy nova]

any things to do in doom eternal im bored pls give ideas

[slow sigil]

master level

[burnt moss]

PB only

[slow sigil]

sounds just boring

[mossy nova]

what is the best master level to play ?

[valid wren]

Bro 💀

[slow sigil]

imo SGN, but i've heard great things about world spear

[mossy nova]

i might do mars core

[valid wren]

My man never heard of opinions just check them out you will see which you like more

[mossy nova]

master levels could help me get back my old skills back

im getting rusty

what was the first master level

[slow sigil]

sgn lol

[mossy nova]

okay

Mancubus is very thicc

[burnt moss]

So does the SSG even have a range? I didn’t realize before that it would be effective against icon of sin because of the distance.

[vivid cliff]

i just thought of something stupid

The super gore nest's environment is toxic to Terrestrial life.
The aggadons were terrestrial.

Doomhunters in super gore nest would die lol

[signal spear]

Hell'o chat.

[azure oriole]

The hollow part in tag2 world spear where the imps come first then there's a bunch of pinkies is so unnecessary like can't we just go without another round of demons

[signal spear]

Do you like mancubuss ass?

[mossy nova]

Yes

So far so good on mars core master level

[signal spear]

I hope now I'm not die like noob from laser on argent tower.

[tardy carbon]

Has anyone else had a bug on Taras Nabad where after the room with the Divinity machine, there's an invisible wall that doesn't let you progress?

[mossy nova]

I did it i beat mars core master level nightmare

Now im not rusty now

[mossy nova]

Im not planning to play any other master level

And also why the fuck is there spectre whiplashes

[signal spear]

Mars core deal Brrrrr

[mossy nova]

Wut

[mossy nova]

Wut

[signal spear]

[mossy nova]

Wdym

[azure oriole]

cause

[valid wren]

Youre not in #doom-2016 bud

[signal spear]

Oh, I didn't see this room, ty

[mossy nova]

For some reason when you stab a carcass on the side of there phase it creates a flap flap sound

Question does fps depend on monitor hertz ?

[slow sigil]

FPS ingame? no
FPS that you can actually see on your monitor? yeah

[dull quest]

[mossy nova]

So false fps

[dull quest]

My brain when fighting the marauder for the first time

[slow sigil]

kinda oversimplify but hertz is kinda the fps of your monitor

if you have 360 fps ingame, but 60 on your monitor, you will only see 60 fps

[mossy nova]

I beat mars core nightmare it was fun

[slow sigil]

however, it would still smooth some things if you have higher ingame fps, and in eternal your meathook also goes crazy fast

[mossy nova]

Mmm i might ask my godfathers boyfriend to give me a old high hertz monitor

[mossy nova]

Mars core master level*

[slow sigil]

old high hertz monitor
lol

[signal spear]

Nice music = nice level.

[mossy nova]

Fun fact i dont hear music my hands hear the music

For maximum switching

[signal spear]

I have 100 music

And 17 others sounds

+100 volume on my pc

I hear only music

[spring stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/kumalala-savesta-lightskin-meme-kumala-gif-25628506

[ember void]

so true, morbius so true!

[thorny crag]

Gonna try to beat sgn ml on un rn

It's about time i beat it

[ember void]

good luck, brother

[pure iris]

Cant you re-enter lvls in extra life/un?

[ember void]

I'm actually unsure. I always assumed you were able to.

[pure iris]

I did that too but i cant go back to super gore nest for the last 2 secrets

Did you have to unlock it first?

[ember void]

did you try the mission select pad in the fortress of doom?

[pure iris]

Yes

[ember void]

I thought you were able to do that. not really sure why they wouldn't allow you to.

[azure oriole]

no

[pure iris]

The screen doesn't show anything and i cant do it from the main menu either

[ember void]

oh then yeah its disabled.

[azure oriole]

you can't go back to previous levels in extra lives mode or ultra nightmare

[pure iris]

How am i going to get 100% then._.

[azure oriole]

redo it idk

[pure iris]

This is my 2nd attempt to get 100% lmao the first safefile just didnt accept that i did it:(

[azure oriole]

Do 100 % on regular mode save

[pure iris]

I already did that on my nightmare safefile

The game doesnt give me the trophy tho

[azure oriole]

do it again

[pure iris]

Can i cry instead

[ember void]

yes.

[azure oriole]

Are you sure you did everything and found everything? Including mission challenges?
You can check level stats in mission select.

[pure iris]

https://youtu.be/wQPM92JQHVE

[ember void]

What achievements do you have? you gotta have some, such as the one for acquiring all of the music collectables, yes?

if not, then yeah your save is bugged.

[pure iris]

And how do you fix that

[azure oriole]

You also grabbed everything from fortress and got all suit perks?

[pure iris]

Yes

[ember void]

Starting a new save unfortunately.

[azure oriole]

Sounds like bugged milestone then. Again

Idk if you must have all mod masteries too

[pure iris]

Mastered all of them

[azure oriole]

What does 100 % even reward? In game?

not sure if anything at all

Just an achievement then, ok

[ember void]

sounds super worthy of one's time to me.

[pure iris]

I want the platinum trophy on ps5 thats it

[azure oriole]

what do you still need for the platinum

[pure iris]

Completing extra life mode with 10 lifes left, battle/horde trophies and the collectibles

[azure oriole]

Do you have all cheat codes incl. the hidden one from fortress, too

[pure iris]

Yes

[azure oriole]

You should have everything then yeah

[mossy nova]

I feel like playing super gore nest master level

[ember void]

then play super gore nest master level

[mossy nova]

Tommorow

[ember void]

what's stopping you?

[mossy nova]

Its night

Good night friends

[valid wren]

Night isnt stopping you, the sleepiness that comes from darkness also known as night stops you, oh and your parents

[mossy nova]

Nvm im not sure if i will play spg master level

[halcyon hemlock]

can someone please explain to me what are the sentries that the hell priests have and what is that coin you throw away when killing a hell priest

[ember void]

what

[ivory ore]

Don’t worry about it

[ember void]

okay well the token is basically what allows you to actually kill the priests. doomguy is given the tokens after killing each priest's guardian.

[halcyon hemlock]

hmmmm

[ember void]

da drippy slayer

[halcyon hemlock]

so the sentry / guardian is basically what's gonna make it harder to kill the hell priests

since you need to kill the sentry and only THEN you can kill the hell priest, correct?

[ember void]

yes.

[halcyon hemlock]

thanks pyro

[flint flame]

Just pretend the first hell priest had one

[halcyon hemlock]

mr saul why did the first hell priest have no sentry?

mr saul?

[full crystal]

its implied you killed what sentry he had before between 2016 and eternal

[sacred dirge]

Wish the hell guard in worm form made a come back

[pearl ether]

can someone give me tips on getting better at the game? i really suck

[jaunty vapor]

Is this your first playthrough or no? Kind of changes the answer a little.

[pearl ether]

first

[jaunty vapor]

First thing I'll say, try to do as much as you can without advice for now. You can only play a game new "once" before you start learning a bunch of the stuff in the game.

That being said, generally you want to cycle between ally your available weapons until you run out/as are close to running out, rather than just relying on a single weapon.

Always chainsaw as soon as you can. Even if you're at 70% max ammo, that chainsaw will fill your ammo to max so no harm, since as long as you're using all your weapons (and the ammo in arenas), each chainsaw should last you until the next one.

Always remember to use your other cooldowns as they become available, there's a lot of inputs in the game so sometimes it's hard to get used to at first, but when you start doing flame belch every time it's available you start to notice your survivability go up

[restive cedar]

any new event?

still continue spring event

[main thistle]

hello

[pearl ether]

thanks!

[restive cedar]

still no news?

[main thistle]

but i have a question how big is the dark lord?

in is armor

[sacred dirge]

If I could guess I'd say 3 meters

[flint flame]

Nothing

[slow sigil]

hes like more then twice the height of doomguy lol

[flint flame]

Yep, not even a confirmation of a new event coming up

[sacred dirge]

So 4 meters ?

That doesn't seem right

[slow sigil]

tbf doomguy's cam is a bit down i thought

[sacred dirge]

I'll show you a scale I use

https://imgur.com/a/1qhDyWd

[restive cedar]

probably darklord same long 2016 baron of hell

ıf mancubus same long 2016 and eternal

[pure iris]

https://youtu.be/7rQK9IXVGMQ

Why did he not recover from the stun

[slow sigil]

he shot his feet

[pure iris]

I did that but dont you have to shoot next to his feet and not directly on them?

[strange gale]

he technically never got f-bal'd there, look at the eye flashes

the player just knows the correct spacing to bait multiple of them in a row

[slow sigil]

ah that explains it bit more then. already was confused cause it was from in front lol

[pure iris]

its my clip and i dont know the spacing for that lol

[strange gale]

it's not that hard to get that accidentally, it's just inconsistent

[valid wren]

God imp being higher than the doom slayer is just surprising i already knew but holy shit

[strange gale]

but yea he did recover from the falter each time, you just got him to flash immediately after

[slow sigil]

them hunching all the time makes them look shorter

[sterile kraken]

Good 👍

[thorny crag]

Can we talk about World Spear

sure

[burnt moss]

What about it

[thorny crag]

mmmm let's just say it kinda blows imo and that's it

[mint ore]

Helloo... I don't know if it's too late to make skin suggestions but... can we get a Western Cowboy/Gunslinger Slayer skin for Doom Eternal?

I'm surprised I haven't seen anything like that yet. I would VERY much like a cowboy skin!

[ember void]

Terror-billy master collection when

[azure forum]

Level design is pretty darn cool. Regular level difficulty is Meh. Master level is awesome.

[thorny crag]

Didn't play ml yet but i'm about to

now i want to beat super gore nest ml on ultra nightmare so i won't be playing that anyway for now

[static trout]

good luck

[burnt moss]

What don’t you like about it?

[thorny crag]

The presentation

I just don't like how it looks

and the music is kinda bad too because it never goes for a drop
it's too boring

didn't play ml but i hope it's much harder then the normal difficulty

bc it's for some reason 20 times easier then tag 1
like uac atlantica is my favorite level in doom eternal and it has 4 marauders
and world spear has none

[strange gale]

normal ws doesn't have a single encounter worth playing the heavy parts of the combat music in, so that's a fair criticism

even the master level feels pretty empty

[wary kiln]

I have some questions for anyone who has played a good bit of doom eternal

1-How do you get more cosmetics and skin upgrades for the new event?

2-is the weekly challenges for the summer event every week and are they worth doing?

3-the final question is doing the horde rewards worth it?

[jaunty vapor]

To answer 3, Preator suits are ALWAYS worth it

Tbh the rewards being worth it is just whether or not you like the stuff

[thorny crag]

yeah it's user preference

[wary kiln]

I love the biker and the I think the doom guy one I don’t remember the name of it thanks for the info

Also @jaunty vapor if you can answer this but in horde does higher difficulty mean more points?

[jaunty vapor]

I actually forget. I think it's both more points AND a different leaderboard per difficulty? I know the latter in particular is true

[wary kiln]

Mmmmm okay I’ll keep that in mind

Thanks so much for the info this has been a big help

[copper hatch]

I need some tech support. So I try to boot up doom eternal for the first time and it says my graphics driver is outdated. It shows me the website but I have no idea which drive to install. 8GB NVIDIA GeForce RTX3070 is my graphics card, can I get some help here?

[midnight sparrow]

Download the GeForce Now app onto your PC it allows you to easily update your Nvidia Graphics drivers from the app.

[copper hatch]

ok.

just downloaded it.

[ruby umbra]

The worst track in DOOM history is Vega Core

[ember void]

There are probably worse.

[crystal lark]

hello

I have a question...

[flint flame]

Nah it slaps wdym

[valid wren]

Vega core is a really good track wdym??

[crystal lark]

How do I make my slayer not have a mask? it is very epic without a mask

[flint flame]

Use the skins that don’t have a mask

Barbarian, commander keen, ranger slayer

[azure oriole]

Commander keen

[crystal lark]

barbarian is a dlc or model?

[flint flame]

It’s a skin

Comes with buying the second dlc TAG 2

[copper hatch]

Ok, got logged in and stuff, now how do I update my drivers?

[crystal lark]

oh ok

[pure iris]

How long should nekravol 2 - end take?

[flint flame]

Maybe 4 hours on a first playthrough

[sacred dirge]

Default is the best

[flint flame]

True, but they were asking for skins w/o mask

But default is prob peak design

[burnt moss]

Don’t worry, the ML is arguably the absolute hardest

[burnt moss]

I don’t remember any of TAG music dropping, or being all that remarkable. But World Spear is the only soundtrack that stood out enough that I ripped it from YouTube to add to my iPhone.

[flint flame]

2 - it’s monthly this time, which is a little out of the ordinary. They are def worth it

[wary kiln]

Oh ok 👍 thanks

[flint flame]

You’ll be able to reach the max level in the series in no time

[pure iris]

And on extra life/tytd on my 2nd playthrough after beating 100% nightmare?

[flint flame]

Oh in that case like an hour maybe hour and a half

[ruby umbra]

I can't get into it

[valid wren]

Skill issue

[lapis saddle]

I was nearly done with the Super Gore Nest ML when the game crashed. Bad timing. I like the master level a lot so far aside from the stupid toxic floor marauder fight

[pure iris]

Sounds good

[azure oriole]

Exultia is swag

[burnt moss]

If you want to rack up XP, play levels on a new save file. Bosses only get you like 15k now, but newly completed levels get me 80k+. @wary kiln

[azure oriole]

Exultia is the best level

Nvm super gore nest

[ivory ore]

Ok

[azure forum]

You ok son?

[azure oriole]

I’m gonna brown

?

?

[ivory ore]

?

[azure forum]

?

[azure oriole]

ok

[sacred dirge]

https://imgur.com/a/15BMi97

[azure oriole]

hi

[azure forum]

hi

[azure oriole]

🙂

[warped parrot]

[strange gale]

[mellow cove]

I just finished Doom Eternal, the base game... no DLC yet, sadly... nor the other content yet... but I will get to that, as soon as possible

It is one of the most awesome games I've played in a while, I must state... I love the combat of the game!

[ember void]

is that bj blazkowicz

[sacred dirge]

Gunna have to kick your ass now

[opal galleon]

Wolfenstein

[sacred dirge]

There better be an announcement for 3 this quakecon or I'll be depressed

[azure oriole]

There won’t be an announcement for it

[sacred dirge]

Why are you so sure

[azure oriole]

Because I don’t even know if quakecon is about wolfenstein

[sacred dirge]

Machine games worked on the release of quake and wolf is definitely apart of it

[copper hatch]

Making my first ever campaign slot, what difficulty should I do?

[sacred dirge]

Quake wolf doom. That's the holy Id trinity

[azure oriole]

What if wolfenstein 3 will be like Youngblood?

[copper hatch]

Idk what difficulty is best, what would you recommend?

[azure oriole]

How will the story continue

[sacred dirge]

Well I actually had fun with youngblood. Weakest wolf but was still fun. But machine games and id did not work on it

[azure oriole]

Oh wait nvm

[sacred dirge]

Wolf 3 will be all machine games

[sacred dirge]

It'll probably have hitler killed and then introduce the finding a new dimension aspect of the story

Because of the doomsday clock

[azure oriole]

Kill hitler then have a prequel about hans groose

Hans groose exists in the story I think

[icy walrus]

Wolf 3 would be goated

[copper hatch]

hurt me plenty or ultra violence, what difficulty is recommended for a first playthrough?

[sacred dirge]

Wolf 3 is going to be fucking suck. Trust me

Machine games always kills it

[azure oriole]

try ultra violence
you can turn down the difficulty at any point

[copper hatch]

Ok.

[copper hatch]

Thanks man, I'm excited for this game.

[sacred dirge]

Have you played 2016?

[copper hatch]

nope, first time playing any doom game

[sacred dirge]

Play hurt me plenty

Trust me

[copper hatch]

I'll try ultra violence and turn it down if it's too bad.

Like, once I learn the mechanics it won't be too bad, right?

[ember void]

Yes.

[sacred dirge]

Just remember cover and taking it slow no longer exists in your world once you're playing doom

[copper hatch]

rip and tear until it's done.

[ember void]

By level 4 you'll have the basics down.

[sacred dirge]

Cod isn't going to save you

[azure oriole]

hopefully at least

[sacred dirge]

I'd highly highly recommend someone who's never played classic or new doom to first play eternal on hurt me

[pure iris]

Took a bit longer than that(did a break tho) managed to get a deathless run on my first try:D

[pure iris]

I played nightmare without ANY experience in doom, dont play that much fp shooters either, it was perfectly fine after a while and i think it was a good decision since i just replayed the game on a lower difficulty and the gameplay felt awfully easy i could just stand still and do stuff on my phone in the middle of a fight(Literally)

Nightmare isnt too challenging but it forces you to use what the game gives you, learning how to exploit weaknesses etc

Btw what can you do in extra life once youre done with the game? I remember not being able to replay missions, am i stuck in the fortress for the rest of time?

[vivid cliff]

"The icon of sin will destroy earth!!!!"

*The icon slams down on a skyscraper and doesn't make it collapse

[sacred dirge]

Really depends on the player. I switch to nightmare because I wanted to play a mode that's hardest without deaths. I've seen alot of people say they love nightmare and still die 10 or 13 times in a arena. If you're okay with that then thats fine.

[pure iris]

"the longer it stays there the stronger itll become"

You just kill the baby icon if i got that right

[vivid cliff]

Me, sitting in Urdak eating a hamburger and looking at memes for an hour afk.

[sacred dirge]

For me over 2 deaths in nightmare is a fail run

[pure iris]

Thats an UN mentality

[sacred dirge]

100 percent agree

[vivid cliff]

ive been watching markiplier play Ultra violence and its making me realize how bad new players play eternal

[flint flame]

Well done

[flint flame]

So true!!!

[vivid cliff]

seriously mark uses the plasma on everything, never uses nades, dash, jump, is so still in his movement its hilarious

[pure iris]

Probably because shooters usually are like:
Just pick a weapon and do headshots dude idk.. oh and if you get hit dw itll be over in like 5 seconds then youre good to go again

[vivid cliff]

Dunkey described doom best. If you know what im talking about

[flint flame]

He didn’t enter the fun zone

[burnt moss]

What does the Combat Cycle mean to you guys? Running around in circles the whole time?

[vivid cliff]

Most shooters. go to cover shoot, go to next cover shoot.

Doom: NNNAH GO IN THE AIIRR WAHAHAHHHHH MEATHOOK ROCKET TGFERENADE WOOOOO

[azure oriole]

anyone knows how playing with no hud helps improving? ik it does but idk why and how

[pure iris]

I Literally just watched his review a couple of hours ago(or yesterday dunno)

[azure oriole]

am i the only one who gets constant soft locks on every master levels?

[pure iris]

I dont see how that is going to help, maybe forcing you to play more carefully since you cant see your hp and refilling ammo BEFORE you run out?

[flint flame]

You mentally notice cool down timers and you get a better feel for them.

[azure oriole]

i see

[flint flame]

Playing no hud beforehand actually helps you in battlemode

[azure oriole]

every checkpoint i get softlocked if i die once and even sometimes when i didnt die once

[pure iris]

I thought people just listen to the sound effects or get a feel for it over time

[sacred dirge]

No? Do you do that ?

[azure oriole]

idk if everyone also gets softlocked or am i the only one im on ps4 btw

[flint flame]

Yeah that’s it, you can easily feel when the cool down is about to go away and when the sound hits. The sounds can create a rhythm. Doom eternal is a rhythm game

[burnt moss]

There are so many factors that can make you die. AND the difficulty isn’t evenly distributed across the game. I died fewer times in the Final Sin (excluding the boss) than in Exultia last night. So how am I supposed to select a difficulty?

[azure oriole]

im forced to play campaign that is easy or horde mode which i absolutely despise

[pure iris]

.

[sacred dirge]

This might be a old doom thing but for my runs I play a map until I own it. Sometimes 30 plus times. Repeat a fight. Learn it. And when you have a full run how to do the arena kicks in

[flint flame]

Does the in game mission select not work? Does the main menu mission select not work? Else, idk what to do except delete

[burnt moss]

Yeah. Like, unless I can take out all, say, 5 enemies at once in 2 seconds, I need to move away while I pick at them. Everyone talks about playing the game the way it wants you to, and that’s what I’ve landed on. Think Doomhunter boss.

[pure iris]

The ingame mission select(the little screen) is disabled in extra life, dunno about the main menu havent checked yet

Messaged Bethesda for the 2nd time now because i Want the milestone/trophy for getting all the collectibles etc without having to spend another day on beating the game hope they'll respond tomorrow so i just have to get the battle/horde achievements

[burnt moss]

You mean you don’t play the next level until you’ve memorized this one?

[sacred dirge]

Yeah

Its more of a ocd thing though

[sacred zodiac]

I am doom

[burnt moss]

Well after memorizing Goldeneye that way, my primary approach to Doom is to maximize my adaptive fighting skill. A truly great Doom player (the kind I want to be) doesn’t need to have played an arena before to be able to survive it. Because Doomguy doesn’t get second or hundredth chances to repeat a set of conditions and enemies. Doomguy doesn’t get to plan.

[sacred dirge]

I like the first sentence there. But as a great doom player and knowing the best ones also. We all practice maps multiple times before attempting a run. None of us do things blind unless it's for fun

[flint flame]

Zero master moment

[opal galleon]

Lore accurate slayer

[sacred dirge]

Zero master does multiple practice runs

More than I can do before my eye pain kicks in

[azure oriole]

Zeromaster

[sacred dirge]

Oh good for yoou

[azure oriole]

you cannot do levels you've already done in an extra life mode save

and ultra nightmare

[burnt moss]

Well I contend there are different types of great players. Speed runners would be the best example of that. Perhaps I should amend my statement to include great “adaptive” or “reactive” players. Or perhaps I’m pursuing a fantastical ideal.

[sacred dirge]

Oh.. speed runners for sure. Those are just very very skilled

So much respect for speed runners

[strange gale]

A truly great Doom player (the kind I want to be) doesn’t need to have played an arena before to be able to survive it.
yeah except this doesn't scale up very far outside of vanilla content. nobody UNs URE blind, not even with all the crutches the full kit offers.

there's a limit to how much novel information our brains can process at once, and sooner rather than later you'll hit the threshold where grinding is a requirement. URE UN takes so many more attempts than anything the devs are allowed to release.

[mossy nova]

swalala

[burnt moss]

But speed runners have a level of skill that might be separate from their speed running capabilities. So I think some of the best speedrunners may be inferior to other non-speedrunners. @sacred dirge

[burnt moss]

What’s URE?

[strange gale]

unreclaimed earth, pretty unanimously the hardest custom master level. you can find individual encounters that are overall much higher in bs levels (because they're jokes), but URE is consistently that while still being fair.

[sacred dirge]

Not really

Speed runners optimize finishing a map with the least amount of encounters and fights. The best speed runners avoid combat but focus on movement. They master how to break a map

For example the best doom speed runners fo maps nomo

[burnt moss]

That’s a really good point. Some levels can be too hard for a blind run. Does vanilla include TAG and MLs?

[sacred dirge]

Before doing a real run.

[burnt moss]

Well if you’re avoiding the combat you don’t need to be good at combat right?

[sacred dirge]

No need to get offended. I'm just telling you what actual doom speedrunners do

[strange gale]

this is only true when discussing any%. ACE requires every combat encounter that's relevant to level progression for a run in said category to be valid.

[sacred dirge]

100 percent

You got me there

[burnt moss]

That makes sense. A 100% or even just restricted will usually be able to beat the game easily, I’d assume?

[azure oriole]

super ballista

[mossy nova]

super ballista + super shotgun = godly combo

doing masteries without cheat codes is fun

[supple glacier]

Etrnal

[azure oriole]

Etrnal

[burnt moss]

I think Masteries should have been done differently

[burnt moss]

I didn’t see this earlier. Were you thinking I was offended?

[mossy nova]

siege background is cool

[burnt moss]

I hate masteries because I have to either take extra risks during game play or farm.

[mossy nova]

risk are everything

now because i played the mars core master level now i use the shield turret and remote detonate on situations

like low health use shield many cyber mancubusys use remote detonate to falter it and blood punch it without losing all of your armor

[burnt moss]

Falter just means it quits attacking for a second right?

[mossy nova]

yes

a second a demon isnt attacking the demon is dead

i also save gas to chain saw heavy demons and i know how to not waste ammo

[dim solar]

I use FA, I can tell you one thing or two about ammo management

[mossy nova]

whats FA

[burnt moss]

Meh, I hate mod swapping. Especially because my arrow buttons are not separate so if I’m a bit clumsy I accidentally swap something I didn’t mean to.

[mossy nova]

just use F

[burnt moss]

Controller. The Switch Pro Controller has the dpad on one fixed piece rather than separate buttons like the joycon. So if you press up, you may accidentally also press left.

[mossy nova]

ohhhh okay

[burnt moss]

I have to reach over the left (eqpt swap) to hit the up (modswap) button. And ALSO (I think this is my biggest issue) swapping mods means it will take a longer time for me to go from detecting the threat to eliminating the threat.

[vivid cliff]

wait....

for the mastery levels if i beat it on nightmare it give me all 4 difficulty achievements....

I played super gore nest ALL 10 RUNS DAMNIT

[azure oriole]

oh well

[ivory ore]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, everyone is handicapping themselves by using guns

[tired jetty]

[azure oriole]

The idea is all right imo but sone are really awkward like having to kill prowlers with lock on, which is complete overkill too.

[opal galleon]

Instilling bad habits

[azure oriole]

Yep.

[icy ice]

Just beat SGN ML on UN

That final run had my heart at 1000bpm lmao

[azure oriole]

nice

[icy ice]

And with that I get the gold combat shotgun skin 😎

[azure oriole]

eternal does that

[icy ice]

I took a break from doing it about a few weeks ago

And on my second run tonight I got it

[burnt moss]

Even regular ones, like the Dblade that I’m working on. I have a better idea. Bring back Rune challenges but substitute a mod challenge instead. The Rune challenges basically did that anyway. I’m referencing 2016 of course.

[azure oriole]

oh yeah im assuming this has already been answered a lot in this community but is the unmakyr any good

not very

sad

[icy ice]

It's good but I personally don't use it

[opal galleon]

I agree only if the Mastery Challenge you're describing had you practice something you'd legitimately do in game instead of "Blow up 10 zombies with barrels within a limited amount of time"

[burnt moss]

Not really. Only because the BFG has infinite damage potential.

[icy ice]

That would be a good idea.

[azure oriole]

the bfg is pretty good yeah

[icy ice]

At least you learned for the next master levels

[burnt moss]

That specific example would be good to unlock a barrel-related perk though.

[opal galleon]

I thought we were just talking about weapon mods though

[azure oriole]

As in you'd get mastery from a challenge?
I disagree that would be good, it either make getting the mastery a pushover or a grueling grind separate from gameplay.
The current execution works as a concept but it needs tuning.
The masteries should take some effort to get so make that effort organic.
Remember in 2016 you GOT the rune from the challenge but you upgraded it in-play, very similar to masteries.

[burnt moss]

I’m talking mathematically. The overall damage a BFG can do isn’t limited.

[opal galleon]

Basically just make the challenge actually relevant and not what is essentially a pointless timewaster

[burnt moss]

We were. The example you used wouldn’t relate to weapon mastery though. Most would. That was a barrel challenge. There was a remote det challenge and at least one PB challenge off the top of my head.

[azure oriole]

This

[azure oriole]

hmmm

[burnt moss]

I agree it would detract from the flow of gameplay, but no worse than the slayer gate.

[azure oriole]

But I'd still keep the in-game aspect.
Rune challenges were removed from eternal and that was for the better.
And I actually liked the challenges in 2016

bruh im cloud streaming eternal and i just lost the ability to get weapons

[opal galleon]

I was listing an example of a challenge which was a pointless timewaster to show what they shouldn't do if your idea were theoretically implemented - Obviously barrels wouldn't really be related or used to a weapon mod related challenge probably

[azure oriole]

none of my safe files work awesome

i’d rather play postal 3 than this shit good lord

[icy ice]

What platform?

[azure oriole]

im gonna sound like a loser for this but i was cloud streaming it on gamepass

[burnt moss]

But also you did give me an idea. Because a ton of perks could be earned in challenges. You could have a parkour challenge to earn most of the “fundamental” perks. You could have an equipment challenge to max out grenades and barrels.

[azure oriole]

and i lost the ability to pick up any weapons

life is good

👍

😠

[burnt moss]

I want the challenges to detract less. Because when in SGN do you have 15 opportunities to take out 3 demons? Two, yes. But three? That’s dumb in the urban setting.

[azure oriole]

On more thought the mastery challenges could work if the player can initiate them whenever after the mastery is unlocked and the challenge indeed is built around using the mastery.
As in have the lock on mastery challenge be about killing 2 targets at once.
Maybe with increasing difficulty aka the last rounds have targets that do not die to lock on instantly so you have to set up the kills or such

[burnt moss]

I’m confused. So it’s like the rune challenge but it’s initiated from the menu?

[azure oriole]

You can get the mastery in sgn if you want, easily.
Also you are supposed to work towards them instead of getting them in the same level.
Third, the player can pick the order of weapon mods so having level X built for mastery Y wouldn't really work

[azure oriole]

Yes

[burnt moss]

They don’t usually clump in any of the (few) open areas in SGN. And I do see your point about them not being in order. Which is why I want the challenges to be more achievable on any level.

[azure oriole]

Remember destroyer blade instakills revenants and whiplashes too and if you have the ice bomb damage boost perk, icing first will allow you to kill arachnotrons and hell knights + dread knights too.
Having a fodder demon or two plus a suitable heavy in a clump.isn't too hard to arrange.
Also the corridor sections have lots of 3 or more fodder demon groups.

[burnt moss]

That method does come with its own challenges, but point taken. Meanwhile I’m gonna go farm Helloe

[azure oriole]

Indeed. Masteries should take a bit of thought to get, too.
Also the dblade tips in Arsenal are very good:

• start charging mid-air
• combine with ice bomb

Actually imo the mastery could very well be "kill 3 or more frozen demons with destroyer blade".
Would teach the optimal use and give the player the opportunity to figure out more targets are viable with the damage boost.

Alternatively have it just be kill multiple enemies at once and the count ticks up any time you kill 2 or more towards a total.
So say you kill 2 at once and you get eg 2 / 45
Kill then 4 and go to 6 / 45 and so on.

[mossy nova]

guns

[burnt moss]

That would be great. I want a game to tell me how it intends for me to accomplish a challenge.

I’m gonna go look for some balloons on super gore nest

[azure oriole]

Oh yeah I still haven't found those either

[burnt moss]

They’re at the end so I’m speedrunning with cheats. Unmaykr go brrr

This level is pretty short when you don’t have to actually slay demons haha

[burnt moss]

Found them. I had to reload checkpoint and try firing from different angles to pop them

[azure oriole]

I just couldn't make them pop myself, just found them myself.
Eh, not like 2 tyrants is anything special at this point, xd

unpopular opinion maybe but I like Lux Slayer over bounty lord:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/987613785223200808/LuxDestroyer.png

bounty lord is pretty good

also they're not the "exact same except flames", lux and bounty lord use different coloring and detailing

[mossy nova]

I created a new combo so i can get more damage on davoth ssg + ballista + ssg + hammer + ssg + balista + ssg + turret chaingun

And also combo it with the grenade launcher for more damage

[azure oriole]

Yeah I like bounty lord too but prefer lux

[azure oriole]

i don’t really have a preference

[burnt moss]

Right? Haha. The 5 marauders are much more impressive

[burnt moss]

Hey guys, did Doomguy actually stop the harvesting of humans in base campaign? I don’t see where he actually derailed the process while in hell.

[brittle quest]

He killed the argent emmiter, which meant that the energy could no longer be transferred; basicaly disrupting the entire thing.

He also killed Kalibas, who judged the corpses.

So yes, he derailed it indirectly. Not to mention how killing the Icon/SGN reduced all the civilian casualities.

[midnight sparrow]

Not to mention the destruction of the Super Gore Nest did quite a bit of damage as well

[mossy nova]

how big would a baby cacodemon look like

[icy ice]

About that big

[mossy nova]

tiny

[icy ice]

Careful, it'll bite your hand off!

[burnt moss]

But energy was obviously still flowing at the end of Nekravol, or else nothing would have propelled him to Urdak.

[brittle quest]

Think of it as an unrefined sudden influx of energy rather than the regulated energy being transmitted. It stopped right after.

The whole process itself was destroyed.

[slow sigil]

Only in nekrovol though

[burnt moss]

Oh ok. So if it weren’t for the IoS, the game would have ended at Nekravol

[slow sigil]

They could harvest human souls without nekroval, it's just that nekroval is crazily efficient and sends a lot of energy up to the makyrs

[burnt moss]

What were the hell priest trying to do then?

[slow sigil]

Wdym

[brittle quest]

The hell priests were doing a ritual to speed up the demons congregating on Earth, and by extension increasing the demonic consumption of Earth.

Once that failed, the Khan desperately resurrected the Icon to hopefully kill everyone on his own, but that failed as well.

[burnt moss]

So they literally just needed everyone to die? They couldn’t just bomb the place?

[brittle quest]

I wouldn't think that'd work, I think everyone needed to be killed by demons of somekind and "damned" to hell

The demons served as hooks of sort to siphon their souls and fuel the factory.

But this is getting into M0nologue territory, he's the expert.

[midnight rover]

to be honest that looks cool, but in my opinion, the demonic slayer skin is cooler than that

[azure oriole]

Yeh whatever is your preference. Was just comparing lux to bounty lord in this case.

[mossy nova]

argent energy didnt prevent the transfiguration it only slowed it down

[slow sigil]

Slowed it down pretty radically then

[mossy nova]

im bored

[azure oriole]

Im boblue

[mossy nova]

hello bloblue im void slayer

[azure oriole]

hi

[mossy nova]

still good if you know how to use it

[azure oriole]

Under The Mayo origin story

[mossy nova]

for some reason when i glorykilled a carcass on the side of there head and on the floor it created a flap flap sound

[high igloo]

It’s useless tbh

[azure oriole]

I think it's a shame you can't toggle fire on or off on the animation. Primary reason why i'm not a big fan of bounty lord, it looks stupid that he's on fire all the time, depending on what podium it is.

[digital cape]

Morb update needed ASAP

[azure oriole]

remote det is hard falter that's hardly useless

[high igloo]

Why not just use rocket launcher

No need to do all this extra shit

Nades also way better

[azure oriole]

you can chain them, so like, nade, plasma burst, blood punch, chaingun shield etc. And you can use remote det as part of that. Really all mods have use depending on situation

also good for going behind shields too, if you don't want to use deathblade

[slow sigil]

It's not a hard falter, thats the worst part

[azure oriole]

it falters is point. It's also for battlemode it's probably easiest way to kill marauders with at all, he can't do shit, cause you keep hitting him even if he go slightly to side or jump up in air or dash a little. You can shoot around corners aswell which is super useful or detonate over range when he doesn't even expect it. For campaign lockon is used more cause it's simply easier and used for heavy and superheavy. But remote det can be real good to deal with heavies and fodder coming at you. you use that along with plasma burst it can be quite good. It's just matter of change mod to fit situation which most forget

Whenever i hear someone say this mod is useless, it's just cause you haven't found use for it yet or have mindlock of you refuse to switch cause you get stressed and overwhelmed. Like say micromissiles, people say don't use that. It's one of the easiest built in combos to stagger pinkys there is. micromissile spam + rockets/ballista, right in his face this will stagger them. then you can blood punch the next. You literally would never find this out if you say micromissile useless use only precision bolt cause it's 'better overall'.

There's clear built in combos using every mod for various demons that finds every single mod useful depending on situation is why you can switch between them in a second (obviously) or faster with some tricks

Especially fast rocket tech + remote det, it's incredible, and you can't do that with lockon obviously, and let's talk about how much ammo lockon uses. Lockon is like okay superheavy let me deal with you easy. For large groups remote det is very awesome.

[pure iris]

Lmao people die so fast in battlemode when you use quickswapping

[azure oriole]

hi i wanna know if its a known bug
i mastered the plasma rifle with cheats on and it shows me that i got the milestone but i didnt get the rewards for it

[pure iris]

Did you master every weapon?

Idk if there are rewards for mastering specific weapons

[azure oriole]

yeah, when i finished the plasma it gave me both milestones but i didnt get the title

[pure iris]

Dunno then:(

[strange gale]

mayo drone

[high igloo]

U can still find matches in battlemode?

[slow sigil]

"Some tools are really good in certain situations, you just dont know them yet"
meanwhile there are still better tools for the jobs prescribed

Except for maybe battlemode, but battlemode works differently then campaign anyways

[azure oriole]

tom my beloved

[strange gale]

rd is supposed to do 600 damage (base rockets do 900) but it NEVER does more than 521
you get soft falters from just shooting at enemies with anything. rd doesn't do anything unique other than the gimmick of detonating rockets around a corner, so i guess you can soft falter an enemy slightly earlier than you would with something hitscan, but dashing around said corner and firing one ssg shot does practically the same for less opportunity cost.

falters don't last long enough for faltering an enemy you can't see to be valuable, except when you're playing at ridiculously high damage scaling values (5x, 10x) and you straight up die in one shot if you try to approach with no setup. i don't play bm so i can't comment on it.

[high igloo]

Idk in what situation id rather use remote det when nades r such a better option

Nade + super shotgun grapple hook in, remote det simply does not beat that

[pure iris]

Does someone have the link for the battlemode discord?

[pure iris]

Apparently

[high igloo]

That’s cool as hell

Lowkey tho i liked doom 2016 multiplayer better

[pure iris]

The skill lvl is meh tho i haven't lost a single match yet, just my first round as the slayer

[pure iris]

No clue how it was back then eternal is my first doom started like a week ago

[strange gale]

the situations mm and rd are "good" in are already covered by options that just so happen to also cover situations that aren't so incredibly specific. there's no "u just don't know how to use them!!!" argument to be made here, people with 2000 hours in the game still haven't found any case where mm or rd are actually the best option. actual 2020 mayo take

[high igloo]

Doom 2016 multiplayer is basically halo but faster paced

[pure iris]

Idk halo either im on ps5

[high igloo]

Ah well uhh

Cod but with slayers

that’s a good enough description probably

[pure iris]

So all of em are super op?

[high igloo]

Yeah, you can jump insanely high and its super fast paced

It was tons of fun, i miss it lol

[pure iris]

What happened

[azure oriole]

#battlemode

[high igloo]

Nothing i just stopped playing eventually

Idk if the servers r even on

[azure oriole]

it died lol

Heard 2016 mp is dead

[pure iris]

Oh nvm

[high igloo]

Sad

[azure oriole]

The servers work but practically no one plays it. I heard, dunno for myself.

[high igloo]

haven’t played in awhile, but i have tons of good memories from it

[azure oriole]

A '2020 mayo take' really? so he has a bad take and mayo is idiot or was idiot? This is how the community is toxic and stupid, cause i had this argument with other miscreant trolls and harassers before who have since harass me for 1½ year for having 'bad take' when they themselves are low iq and simply just trolls and sociopaths, i remember that now. This notion that some elitist idiots to put it mildly, sit and dictate how you are stupid if you use certain mods, yet there are many situations where the cookie cutter pb lockon is not that good, ofcourse you can make it work but like using micromissile instead of pb allows you to slingshot them and still get the armor and lots of other options you suddently get with the delayed kill. It's also just for the plain fun of it is good, and you can get a much similar result but you play slightly different than you would. Death to 'meta' idiots who want to say to you how you should play the game, and it clearly isn't even how ID intended. It's simply cause they have mindlock on and want to play in every way how they are used to. Why even sit and debate which mod you should use as if you can't switch it in 1-2 SECONDS? They pretend as if you only have 1 choice. You start match or level and the mod is locked in, that's not the case is it!

hi

uh

good lord

word

[high igloo]

Wtf

[azure oriole]

tom and luci is low iq trol? 😿

not so much them but people who say you just are idiot or have bad take if you don't want to play like they do. No there's people that far worse than that 😄

cool

Don't think anyone called anyone else an idiot in any form.
You are free to play however you want but highest damage options are pretty clear cut.
Also the delayed kill does not net you more armor, enemies set on fire drop 20 armor each.
Killing them makes them drop it instantly, otherwise they drop it over time.
Amount is the same regardless.

That said firing mm's on a group sure is an option and fun, but something like pb rocket or pb sticky will do higher damage.

[azure oriole]

Give it time, you will run into high skill demon players soon enough.
I have had the opposite experience where I get floored pretty quickly often by such players.

[mossy nova]

Explaining lore is fun

[azure oriole]

Battlemode (on PC at least) seems very polar, you either sweep new players or get sweeped by sweat lords, lol

that's not the issue. And yes they do indeed those who are worse than tom call people outright idiots, and even harass people if someone disagree they don't play in this specific cookie cutter monotone way that they do where they deny using certain mods because they get too overwhelmed to switch between them on the fly and excuse it with the mods are bad. There's direct staggers that you can glorykill them after of demons especially fast movers using micromissiles that is not as easy with pb for instance. And you get same armor but you can slingshot around instead of having to hook him and then pb his head off, for example on fodder. Anyone who claim they have 2000+ hours also know these things, and if they don't they not as smart as they think they are. Yes ofcourse pb lockon for example is no brainer, you don't have to think much. It's really debating a bunch of narcisistic morons who even go against ID of how they think the game should be played.

It's also funny because many of these, if you remove air control i doubt they could even beat ultra nightmare, yet they so experts and others so beneath them they think they can call other people idiots for not playing game like they do.

is that so

[high igloo]

air control should be equipped from the start by default imo

[mossy nova]

Yes

[azure oriole]

Tbh Goku could defeat the Doom Slayer

Like what is a dude with a shotgun gonna do against a guy that can fly and move at the speed of sound

[azure oriole]

Given how much it matters I agree.
The counter-argument is there are playstyles for non-AC but these don't disappear if AC is available, just don't correct your trajectory, then.

Okay lil bluntly said but you get the point

Having more control available does not void anything that worked with less control

[mossy nova]

You do know that doom guy is actually a god ?

[azure oriole]

No he's not

[mossy nova]

Im not joking

[azure oriole]

Probably shoot him?

[mossy nova]

He got powers of a god by the divinity machine meant to find the destroyer and destroyed other human lives

[azure oriole]

1st he's not, and 2nd just because he's a God doesn't mean he's stronger

[mossy nova]

The divinity machine is just a impostor scanner

[mossy nova]

Well screaming to get power doesnt mean he can beat doom guy

• doom guy was already op as a human😹

Fun fact: doom guy can absorb a power of a god without his body being
Destroyed

Ohh yea i forgot doom guy is stronger then the creator of the fucking universe

[azure oriole]

The divinity machine unlocked his full potential

[mossy nova]

Yes ik

[azure oriole]

The dark lord has no feats

[mossy nova]

Yea because the power of davoth is in a shard

And inside of doom guy

[azure oriole]

Since when lol

[mossy nova]

Since the time he was blessed

The divinity machine needs a source of power like a wraith shard

But the shard that powered the divinity machine was davoths power shard

[ember void]

"if I go outside, with all these powers"
-doomguy

[faint ruin]

How do you get doom 1 in doom eternal

[mossy nova]

Get all of the cheat codes

[faint ruin]

Ok

Thanks

[azure oriole]

Where does it say that

[mossy nova]

Lore codex

The fucking codex in tag1 or tag2 dammit

Why are you even here if you want to argue about gokemid go to the crimge anime weeb servers
Mr balddingle

Cringe*

• anime enjoyers better

If i got suddenly silent that means my tablet is ded

[azure oriole]

Speaking of can you actually find the password for doom 2 from within eternal?
I'm not asking for the password, I know what it is, but are there clues in the game for it?

[mossy nova]

Go silent*

[mossy nova]

Yes one of the books

[slow sigil]

Does it actually mention it's the password though lol

[azure oriole]

Calm down

[slow sigil]

Cause otherwise literally everything could still be the password within his mancave

[flint flame]

Not quite

[mossy nova]

No

Mr balddingle

[flint flame]

He should be allowed to express his opinion lol

[azure oriole]

Really, which one?

Still tho, how is doomguy gonna defeat Goku if Goku can fly lol

[mossy nova]

I have to call you Dingle because you have quandale pfp

[flint flame]

Free speech, ever heard of it

[knotty osprey]

I feel like they should play doom music on the fire alarms to add additional heat to the sorroundings

[mossy nova]

Super shotgun meat hook

[azure oriole]

He can dodge it tho

[mossy nova]

There is no free speech in my family

[azure oriole]

P sure he kills a few hundred flying enemies in eternal alone

[flint flame]

@azure oriole I’m sorry that this is your experience with the doom server 😭😭

[mossy nova]

You do know the divinity machine gave doom guy enhanced speed

[azure oriole]

it only gets worse

[knotty osprey]

Doomguy or angry father?

[pure iris]

We'll see

[azure oriole]

To be fair you are kinda setting yourself up for this with "guys X vs doomguy omg"

[knotty osprey]

Who will win

[mossy nova]

Wut

The father can't solo doom guy because the father is only a precence

[flint flame]

I will say tho that this is a weird point

[mossy nova]

Presence*

[knotty osprey]

True

[azure oriole]

father is just a bowling ball

[mossy nova]

But got destroyed

[azure oriole]

It didn't enhanced the speed of the meathook tho

[mossy nova]

Combo it

[azure oriole]

If the meathook attaches to Goku he could just destroy it or something

[mossy nova]

Can't because the demons tried to destroy the SSG but failed

[flint flame]

Counter argument: the marauder can dodge, but the doom guy can still keep up

[wise pelican]

dbz fans would say "but goku teleport!11 😡 😠 "

[mossy nova]

Also the icon of sin had meteors

That could have more speed but doom guy can dodge it

[wise pelican]

goku beats characters because of unfair power scaling in dragon ball thats why people say no one beats him

[restive cedar]

goku vs saitama?

[azure oriole]

I mean like what if the meathook attaches to Goku and goku teleports to an another planet

[mossy nova]

Then he weak

[wise pelican]

its still attached, he is approaching rapidly

[azure oriole]

Goku beats characters beacuse he's the main character

[flint flame]

Teleporting to another planet sound like he’s running away

[mossy nova]

No plot armor in games

[azure oriole]

Same can be said for doomguy

[wise pelican]

yeah really its like saying "insert main character" can kill "other random character"

[wise pelican]

plot armor in games exist wym

[mossy nova]

Yes

[wise pelican]

if you try to kill one of the BoS members in fallout 3 im pretty sure they just get up (at the start)

[flint flame]

Meathook can break, so I imagine if goku teleports it stops the movement

[wise pelican]

i guess, if he teleports behind things itll definitly just snap i said it for the joke

[strange gale]

the fall guys bean solos everyone

[mossy nova]

sorry fr not resonding i was pulling out my laptop

[mossy nova]

for*

responding*

[knotty osprey]

⭕️

[mossy nova]

that will put momentum if goku was moving fast and teleported

[wise pelican]

gregory from fnaf solos joe biden in a fist fight

[mossy nova]

gregory solos venessa in bed fight

[wise pelican]

oh hell na

[mossy nova]

wut

[azure oriole]

[mossy nova]

i meant pillow bed fiht where they use the bed nad pillows as a battlefield you idiot

[azure oriole]

I didn't read the full sentence

[mossy nova]

okay

this is why i dont like saying bed fight jokes

[azure oriole]

People on the internet can be weird sometimes

[silver briar]

Yo hello

[mossy nova]

hello fellow doomer

[silver briar]

What's up?

[mossy nova]

good

im bored because i cant replay the campaign because my save slots are full

[silver briar]

[silver briar]

Delete one

[mossy nova]

i cant they are important

[silver briar]

Go to the save slots

[mossy nova]

ik

[silver briar]

I mean replay missions

[mossy nova]

i like beating it again not replaying it with full weapons

like restartin one

[silver briar]

well I can't help you in that case

But still theres battlemode

or horde mode

[mossy nova]

i did horde mode in nightmare it was fun and got bored again after i finished it

[silver briar]

battlemode?

[mossy nova]

horde mode

[silver briar]

No I'm asking about battlemode

[mossy nova]

no

i dont like it and im trash at it

[wise pelican]

cant you just replace bed with a better word

[mossy nova]

okay bed pillow fight

its the same as pillow fight

i searched images

and its a pillow fight in a bed

[azure oriole]

guys can someone help me

i cant go in matchmaking on battlemode

no

fuck off

[flint flame]

What platform? Do you have mods on?

[azure oriole]

bruh

no

pc steam

[ember void]

wdym is it just not loading into a match or can you physically not access multiplayer?

because battlemode is pretty dead

[azure oriole]

true

[frank belfry]

hey

[ivory ore]

Lmao suffer

[mossy nova]

sorry for my behavior minutes ago if it wasnt a joke aint sorry for my behavior

[frank belfry]

ok dude.

[ember void]

ok dude.

[azure oriole]

ok dude.

[flint flame]

ok dude

[midnight rover]

ok dude

[high igloo]

ok dude

[floral ore]

don‘t you love it when the red gore key just straight up fucking crashes your game

god fucking damn it

this is why super gore nest is my least favorite level next to exultia

[shy rain]

Yknow, this game reignited my passion for gaming, I hadn't really had an experience that fun in a long time

2 years since release now huh, sheesh time has flied

I wonder what's coming next, a sequel might be due for announcement in a year or two

[ember void]

doom eternal

[shy rain]

doom eternal.

[azure oriole]

?

[azure oriole]

Since i removed poses unrestricted i haven't had a single crash. That mod fucks up your game everytime they update it, it's probably 90% of crashes is cause of that mod. or so it feels like. Also verify your files via steam when you have a crash

[floral ore]

it‘s even worse because i‘m on console

[azure oriole]

oh

Yeah very annoying if you have a good run, and then the game goes ultra super nightmare and crashes on you. The final boss.

I've tried one on the world spear UN where i got stuck in a wall or in like mid air. At the end before the jumppad up to the last fight, where there's these things going up and down, and elements to hold on to on each side, I jump between them, it teleports me cause i go out of bounds. Then it teleport me where i sit in air in the bit before it, and can't move, rather than on the ground! go ahead restart game.. haha. Couldn't even ballista myself free, nothing, just floating in mid air.

[floral ore]

doom eternal has two weapon mods; freezing you in mid air and straight up closing the application

[azure oriole]

It's extra difficulty of a design decision. Think of it like heavy wind or rain or a freak hailstorm or something. In doom it's you teleport strangely or go flying in some weird way or something. The amount of time i have just gone straight up in the air (but come down again) when i'm doing punch swaps or blood punches is amusing at this point. Then you can get unlucky and you get an avalanche, that's where the game crashes. 😄

[floral ore]

did they patch using the bfg on davoth?!

f u c k k k k

[lapis saddle]

What’s the best strategy for double marauders?

[burnt moss]

Easiest for me is arbalest and stickies at their feet. Which level?

[lapis saddle]

Gore Nest ML

Do you mean hitting their feet, or near their feet so it explodes behind them?

[floral ore]

both

schrodinger‘s sticky bomb

[slow sigil]

oh for that one you can do a lot of damage on the first marauder before the second one reaches you

[floral ore]

is there a mod that gives you infinite crucible ammo?

[burnt moss]

Near. To avoid the shield

[burnt moss]

Fuck crucible it’s too slow

[lapis saddle]

I definitely use the crucible for Archviles. They’re very tanky and the threat they pose by existing is significant

[floral ore]

which level gives the most event xp?

or, what is it based off of

[ripe veldt]

i think dreadknight needs a master collection

[burnt moss]

Every time I try to kill a tyrant I get hurt before it works

[burnt moss]

They all give 80-90k so no need to farm. Just play the game.

[floral ore]

sometimes i get like 17000 after getting every single collectible and killing all the enemies

the only thing that gave me that much is final sin

even davoth gave me like 12k

[burnt moss]

Use a new save file. I get tons of points all the time. If you’re still having that problem then idk why yours is different

[floral ore]

i mainly want to grind to complete the event and i can‘t use cheat codes in a new save file

[burnt moss]

How much did Final Sin give you?

[floral ore]

about 71k

[burnt moss]

Sounds like you can just farm that then.

[flint flame]

No, but let me know if this command works (I’ll send in dm)

[strange gale]

judgement meter related cmds work on every patch

[floral ore]

what the fuck is the judgement meter?

[ruby solar]

So turns out that they nerfed TAG 1. I just found that out after beating Extra Life Mode. Thank god.

Dragon scale looks awesome.

[burnt moss]

That was a long time ago right?

[ruby solar]

Idk. I just beat ELM like a couple minutes ago.

[burnt moss]

When are you comparing it to?

[ruby solar]

Last time i played, it took me 50 tries to beat Samur.

[burnt moss]

When

[ruby solar]

I don't know. like a couple months ago?

[burnt moss]

Wow and they nerfed it since then? What was the difference?

[ruby solar]

Samur was easier to beat. Maybe it's because of my increased skills. I'm not sure. I pretty much just jumped into TAG 1 after beating the main game.

[slow sigil]

They reverted quite a lot of changes, so most of them rn arent significant

[silver briar]

Guys do y'all have any advice before jumping into tag 1?

[ruby solar]

Practice.

[tender sage]

[ruby solar]

The Super Gore Nest master level has a double Marauder fight, which also happens in TAG 1.

So just practice that

[silver briar]

I played doom Eternal on but I don't think a could play this dlc on

[ruby solar]

Oh, right. Chaingun Shield is really useful.

[silver briar]

I also Did that the Marauder fight is so easy

[slow sigil]

Have fun and dont be dumb enough to "ashamed" of lowering difficulty if you have to

[silver briar]

Too me hurt me plenty serves quite a challenge

and I pretty much tried to play on the other difficultys.

either they were hard or too easy

[azure oriole]

Drop difficulty one step from what you played campaign on for first playthrough.
Apart from that enjoy the challenge! It's a great dlc.

[silver briar]

I follow this advice pretty much at first playthrough of doom Eternal I choose

then I switched to

[ruby solar]

For the DLC, when it comes to weapon mods, i'd go with Sticky Bombs, Precision Bolt, Microwave Beam, Lock-On Burst, Destroyer Blade, and Energy Shield. But you do you.

[silver briar]

I'm planning to replay the missions in

[azure oriole]

No I meant for first playthrough of TAG.
So if you play campaign now at HMP then do TAG on ITYTD

[silver briar]

Oh in that case I understand

[ruby solar]

One more thing from me, Make sure you're quick. Because the traversal sections in the Blood Swamps is a huge pain in the ass.

[high igloo]

Hope you have a good time

[silver briar]

Final sin is brutal isn't it?

[high igloo]

No not really lol

The bosses aren’t really tough in this game

[silver briar]

oh thanks!

[high igloo]

Have you played the dlc expansions clogger?

[silver briar]

no I'm looking forward to play them

[high igloo]

They’re even better then the main game, but do be warned they’re also alot harder

[ruby solar]

You know what i just realized? DOOM (1993) Final boss is the Spider Mastermind, and the final boss of DOOM II, is the Icon of Sin. Guess who the final bosses are for DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal?

[azure oriole]

TAG basically picks up from where the campaign ended and builds up from that, difficultywise.

[high igloo]

I wish tag 2 did the same

But the hammer is funny so i excuse it

[ruby solar]

Hammer is better than Crucible. change my mind

[high igloo]

Significantly more fun to use i agree

[silver briar]

So basically If I'm playing on ITYTD Its like I'm playing on HMP

[ruby solar]

A lot more utility.

[high igloo]

I guess that’s cool too.. im more so thinking about the funny sound it makes

[silver briar]

I wish they didn't nerf the hammer in horde mode

[azure oriole]

Eh, TAG 2 is fine for what it is imo.
Sure it could be better but I'll just take it as it is.

[ruby solar]

Yeah. With the hammer, you don't have to run around looking for a pickup.

[high igloo]

Its not bad by any means, very enjoyable actually

[high igloo]

That i do like

[ruby solar]

agreed. Although i'm glad they included it. I was interested to see how it's useful. I always thought the Crucible was the best, but when I learned the true power of the Sentinel Hammer....

[high igloo]

Crucible is better at getting rid of specific enemies

[ruby solar]

Plus i just love Area of Effect attacks

[high igloo]

That’s probably the only thing

[ruby solar]

Really useful whenever you get cornered by a bunch of demons

[high igloo]

Yeah

[azure oriole]

Well, kinda.
I mean if you are comfortable with HMP in campaign then you could play TAG too at HMP.

[high igloo]

uac facility is quite a huge jump in difficulty tho, i had issues at first lol

[ruby solar]

The Archvile just spams summon

[azure oriole]

By quite a lot, even.
Crucible is a little "gimmicky" imo.

[high igloo]

The double marauder fight really gave me trouble at first

[ruby solar]

I had more trouble with the Double Marauder fight than the Archvile

[high igloo]

Same

[azure oriole]

Sure but AI works the exact same still, so in that respect ITYTD on tag is not the same as HMP on campaign.

[high igloo]

Yes that is true

[ruby solar]

Honestly, we all knew Samuel Hayden was in some way connected with the Seraphim

[azure oriole]

We all knew hayden was the seraphim, basically.

Btw I'm p sure itytd has been buffed.

[ruby solar]

Buffed? or nerfed? what do you mean?

[azure oriole]

Buffed

[ruby solar]

Like less difficult?

[azure oriole]

It's not as easy as it used to be

[ruby solar]

oh

[azure oriole]

But just my thought from doing ws ml classic on itytd

[slow sigil]

Fairly certsin it's easier now, cause chainsaw gives more

[ruby solar]

WS Master Level is insane

[azure oriole]

I meant enemies are more aggressive and can sometimes even hit you

[ruby solar]

i WISH i could get the Green chrome ballista. but that's not happening anytime soon

[slow sigil]

Oh idk bout that

probs just is a skill issue

[azure oriole]

I swear itytd used to have more passive ai

[ruby solar]

I agree

Imagine if CGS could be affected by Infinite Ammo cheat code.

[azure oriole]

[azure oriole]

I thought the same a while back but lo and behold now I have it.
Plus I play ws ml casually now.

[shrewd light]

...... oogoh martin.... ☻

[ruby solar]

You know what i just realized? I'm stupid for not noticing this sooner, but Skullface is literally the Icon of .

[azure oriole]

It's similar Ig but not sure if it's actually meant to be the icon.

[ruby solar]

It looks like the skull in the center of the logo

[burnt moss]

Well was it skill or memorization?

[azure oriole]

To be honest skulls look very much alike 😂

[azure oriole]

Both but definitely the former more.
My (skill) issue was bad positioning and not keeping my momentum up.
When I realized that and focused on it, pretty soon it became very manageable.

[azure oriole]

Btw what is your pfp?

[ruby solar]

for this?

[azure oriole]

Nvm it's slayer

[ruby solar]

Wetland Warrior.

[azure oriole]

Ooh

Couldn't make it out at first

[azure oriole]

@slow sigil approves

I kinda want to try and get hellforged shotgun skin from bm before the series ends

[ruby solar]

I do too. but I need a Nintendo Online account to play Battlemode. and since i bought DOOM: Eternal on my Dad's profile, I have to use his, which I don't know, and he doesnt either.

[azure oriole]

Oh right

One perk of PC gaming: online play is free

[ruby solar]

I don't have a PC.

[burnt moss]

I have difficulty with momentum because as soon as meathook or gk fails me, I freeze up while I re-assess. And those things fail me a lot.

[slow sigil]

[azure oriole]

You mean the speed boost from gk?

[floral ore]

can someone explain what a judgement meter is

[ruby solar]

If that happens, pull out the Chaingun shield

[lapis saddle]

Just beat the Gore Nest Master Level on UV Classic Mode. Good level, classic mode rules. I love how it pushes you to use weapons and mods that you normally wouldn’t

[ruby solar]

Agreed. Classic Mode is fun

[azure oriole]

SGN and Taras are pretty good on classic.
Mars core and world spear not so much imo.

[ruby solar]

Favorite Location in Argent D'Nur? Levels, i mean. For me, it's World Spear. It just looks so cool.

[lapis saddle]

Same. In general TAG levels are more fun and interesting than the base campaign. Amazing aesthetics, more ambitious fights, etc

[cyan frigate]

how are my gaming doom gamers 😎

[azure oriole]

Doomed

[burnt moss]

No I mean when I dash in to glory kill a demon and blood punch him instead

[burnt moss]

Good habit

[opal galleon]

Gaming

[flint flame]

Yep

As in that is the ultra nightmare logo as a skin*

[azure oriole]

Huh

Guess it is

[weary perch]

Doom has one of the best soundtracks In gaming 😍

[ruby solar]

ONE OF???

[cyan frigate]

certified gaming 😎

[weary perch]

I mean I think rdr2 soundtrack is better so😰

[ruby solar]

DOOM soundtrack surpasses all known gaming OST's.

[weary perch]

Or it could be me being biased since rdr2 is my favorite game

[weary perch]

But the house building song🥺

[ruby solar]

Minecraft is temporary. DOOM is Eternal

[weary perch]

Nooo there's a theme in rdr2 where you build a house not Minecraft 😭

Dooms soundtrack is so cool tho😍

[ruby solar]

Actually

Minecraft never dies, either.

[weary perch]

Yes

DOOM is eternal

[flint flame]

Nah not really

< Katana zero or hotline Miami

[azure oriole]

false...................

[opal galleon]

^ Hasn't heard Overdose/Hit The Floor

[flint flame]

Doom soundtrack straight up sickening

[opal galleon]

Ong Meathook got me like

[ruby solar]

BFG Division gave me Adrenaline Overdose when I first heard it.

[azure oriole]

true

[full hornet]

[azure oriole]

still better than the hotline miami theme though

[opal galleon]

❔

Horse Steppin is fire though wdym

[azure oriole]

bruh

[pure iris]

How does the horde mode work

I died now, didnt get that far but how much do i have to replay when i get to the later parts

[ruby solar]

You gotta replay the whole thing

[pure iris]

The entire mode?

A wave? Just the lvl if there are lvls?

[ruby solar]

if you quit, then you might reload at the start of the first mission

the mission where you died

[pure iris]

I see 3 missions with 5 rounds, most likely with 3 waves here

[burnt moss]

The soundtrack is the main reason I looked into playing doom

[pure iris]

Lets say i die in the 3rd wave, of the 2nd round in the 2nd mission, where do i restart?

[pure iris]

Same lmao

[ruby solar]

idk

i havent played horde mode in a while

[azure oriole]

i'd rather listen to the dusk ost lol

[burnt moss]

Round 1 mission 1

[pure iris]

UHHHH

I feel like i shouldnt play on nightmare

[burnt moss]

Yeah don’t

[strange sail]

Master Level > Super Gore Nest > Hurt Me Plenty > Status: Complete

Now for the next two difficulties, later of course...

[copper hatch]

day 2 of playing this game, it's too good

[burnt moss]

Good job. I bet you’re already ready for ARC ML UV.

[lethal jewel]

i just defeated the icon of sin for the first time , what should i do now on doom?

[burnt moss]

Play the game again at higher difficulty

[lethal jewel]

good idea

[burnt moss]

As I increased difficulty, I found different parts to be harder. Than on the easy difficulties

[lethal jewel]

i understand , i wish i could buy ancient gods 1 and 2

[burnt moss]

Watch for sales. They are frequent. I got TAG for $30

[lethal jewel]

Yea , im Brazilian so 30 usd is 150 reais (reais is the Brazilian coin)

[weary perch]

Rdr2 has the best soundtrack in gaming 😚

[burnt moss]

Yeah but how much is a McDonalds combo? 50 reais?

[lethal jewel]

Probably something like that , maybe 30

I don't go often on mcdonalds

[burnt moss]

I was asking just as a reference for conversion rate

[lethal jewel]

I know , relax

[pure iris]

Do you lose 1ups after finishing a mission?

[flint flame]

No

They’re with you til you lose em

[burnt moss]

You can replay the level to get more extra lives too

That’s how I beat Icon of Sin

[spring stratus]

How to beat mars core master level ultra nightmare thanks

[flint flame]

Keep meathooking and flamebelching

[spring stratus]

That alone does not work XD

[flint flame]

No it does what

It’s what I did lol

[icy ice]

Grenade & flame belch with the equipment rune will get you armor when you need it and recharge your grenade a lot faster with a lot of fodder nearby.

[icy ice]

What part are you getting stuck at? I am running the nightmare extra life mode and I'm tempted to just switch to ultra nightmare.

Mars code is really long. That makes it much harder than SGN imo

[spring stratus]

The marudor fight where heavy demons constantly spawn

Also sgn master level only took about 5 tries un

I haven’t tried UN yet for mars core just nightmare and I died like 10 times

[icy ice]

Lucky you. It took me 20-30 attempts lol

[spring stratus]

Yeah I either died at the very start or the very end

[burnt moss]

UN MLs are a combination of things I hate that I kind of like

[pure iris]

How do i change the difficulty tho?

[azure oriole]

you can't change the difficulty of horde in the middle of it

[pure iris]

I died and im in the main menu

[azure oriole]

👍

[cyan frigate]

i thought you said you died IN the main menu lmao

[pure iris]

Could happen lmao

[sacred dirge]

[burnt moss]

Nobody said that UN is fair

[burnt moss]

You select the difficulty when you start

[pure iris]

Do i have to click new game? Or continue, i mean theres no run i could continue

[cyan frigate]

i didnt mention anything about fair or un though?

unless im an idiot and i missed a joke lmao

[flint flame]

I did. It is fair

[azure forum]

I've been playing this game for over a year, and I just gk a Blood maykr for the first time

[pseudo thistle]

why

I think I glory killed one of the special ones in kaisercampaign

but what situation were you in that that could happen

[azure forum]

World Spear master level. I missed like 2-3 ballista shots when trying to head shot it. Then it went into GK state - which to be honest I dont remember being possible 😅

[pseudo thistle]

I didn’t think it was until they showed it in the tag 3 teaser

[cyan frigate]

if i recall correctly im pretty sure dblade can put them in gk state too