doom-eternal

[ember void]

That's just what it's called.

[nova ether]

https://tenor.com/view/chucky-stab-dark-horror-evil-gif-12570347

[ember void]

So true Bendy.

[mossy nova]

finally i beat the dark lord

[nova ether]

bendy?

[mossy nova]

(acting like i didnt lower down my difficulty to im to young to die but i change it to ultra violance again when the dark lords was in his 4th health phase)

[nova ether]

lol

[mossy nova]

no doom eternal tag 2

[flint flame]

Hey, nothing wrong with that

[mossy nova]

okay thx👍

[flint flame]

You should be proud about your accomplishment 💪💪

[azure oriole]

Ya ik

just saying i would have preferred if it was just doom eternal

[flint flame]

Yeah that’s something weird I’ve noticed with the Xbox connection

[quartz charm]

Channel name?

[nova ether]

welcome great slayer

[mossy nova]

how do i get immora background ?

[flint flame]

I thought it was for playing immora? Might possibly be tied to an achivement

[ember void]

I'm pretty sure it's beating it on nightmare.

[jaunty vapor]

The opposite way of getting ilessa background

[mossy nova]

its called "siege" i found it when i scroll down on the background

[burnt moss]

Does it still show up as a UV completion?

[mossy nova]

yes

just scroll down on the background things

i love the tag 1 tag 2 achivements

[burnt moss]

How much of the game has to be played on NM for it to show up as a NM completion?

[azure oriole]

hi friend

[mossy nova]

turns out i forgot to change my difficulty to ultra violance after the phases i only turned it to ultra violance on the cutscene and the dark lord fight difficulty is im to young to die but its okay i hate the dark lord fight

[azure oriole]

[mossy nova]

how do i get Immoran Altar Podium
DOOM Eternal

nvm

[azure oriole]

P sure you must do all on nightmare.

[formal goblet]

Its on my profile

[quartz charm]

Oh

[mossy nova]

the dark lord is a honorable warrior because when the dark lord was losing he accepted it

he accepted that he lost

[burnt moss]

But what about the TAG 2 completion?

[mossy nova]

i finished it

[mossy nova]

the other 3 tag 2 missions are ultra violance and the dark lord fight is a mix of im to young to die and ultra violance

[burnt moss]

So lowering the difficulty at all will change it?

[burnt moss]

But doesn’t it show the level on which you beat the whole thing?

[mossy nova]

wdym

[burnt moss]

Your save slot in TAG 2 shows what difficulty you beat TAG 2 on

[mossy nova]

its ultra violance but the dark lord fight is im to young to die and ultra violance mix

i manage to change the difficulty on the last cutscene to ultra violance

[ivory ore]

You need to do everything on NM in order to obtain the skins, there’s no cheat or work around

[opal galleon]

Mkain

[ivory ore]

Nutmilk

❔❔❔

[opal galleon]

You're epic

[ivory ore]

You know what else is epic

The amount of money you can save by switching to geico

[opal galleon]

Trivago

[mossy nova]

i still got the other cosmetics that arent in nightmare

[burnt moss]

How does it show a mix?

[mossy nova]

well by your memory

[ivory ore]

It doesn’t show a mix per se, he’s just keeping track of what he changed difficulties to

[mossy nova]

and also the game difficulty in the main screen

[burnt moss]

Well I’m only asking what it shows not what he did

[burnt moss]

So for Dark Lord it shows both then?

[icy ice]

UN Run 1: died at the first slayer gate 😭

Not as devastating as I expected it to be though

Since it was only mission 2

[mossy nova]

no when you go to the tag 2 menu game its ultra violance but in the fight its im to young to die

[icy ice]

I did do it before early on in the game but I hadn't spent any weapon points at this point since I'm saving them for rocket lock-on and flaming meathook

[burnt moss]

Ok

[mossy nova]

can you use cheat codes to beat escalation nest ?

[ivory ore]

To beat the first one maybe since it’s required. The second one, im unsure

Probably works like regular challenge nests and just disappears

[burnt moss]

Ok the holt is kicking my butt

[icy ice]

What difficulty?

[burnt moss]

NM. Possessed tyrant et al. Out of BFG.

[mossy nova]

i got the gold bfg and i like survivor and hellforged skin

[icy ice]

Don't forget you can use the microwave beam to stun the possessed tyrant.

Keep freezing and dodging the normal one.

[burnt moss]

Really?

[icy ice]

Yup!

[burnt moss]

So I should prioritize the possessed?

[icy ice]

I would say prioritize the non-possessed one since it's easier to kill.

grenade, ssg-ballista x2, ice grenade, ssg-ballista x2 and a few lock-on rockets is my general strategy.

I would also equip the blood punch support rune

[burnt moss]

Once I kill the non possessed I get a blood Maykr

[icy ice]

Hmm I thought that spawned differently than that.

I thought it spawned when you moved closer to the doom hunter but I guess I was wrong.

[slow sigil]

Focus on the pos. One first then if that's a problem

[burnt moss]

Beam doesn’t stun for long at all

[ivory ore]

I’d actually say focus on the regular tyrant and take care of whatever else is there. Their attacks don’t matter much if you keep a good distance

[slow sigil]

Long enough to shoot and switch back to stun again

[slow sigil]

a normal tyrant doesnt matter either, especially if you keep the pos. One inbetween

[burnt moss]

Oh so it’s like a quickswap

[slow sigil]

Kinda but lower dps

[ivory ore]

Maybe it’s just me thinking of it from my stupid challenge perspective. I can’t remember what I did for it normally

Pretty sure I just double BFG’d the place

[burnt moss]

Not unlikely. It would be my go to.

[azure oriole]

i killed everything before the pos. tyrant

[burnt moss]

I feel exposed going out onto the bridge

Ok I did it. I took on the reg tyrant, then put the DH between me and the pos tyrant and took him out. Managed to kill the blood Maykr (I’m awful with PB) and then actually finished the pos tyrant with the microwave beam.

[azure oriole]

to be fair BFG is near useless against possessed enemies. Just spam lock on, chainsaw, spam more lock on

[hushed garden]

does unmaykr work any better on them?

[azure oriole]

iirc not or at least by much. Damage resistances have clearly been set to negate super weapons

also micro missiles can be surprisingly decent against some possessed enemies

[burnt moss]

I have no self control. I got to Samur but I really need to start calming down for bed.

[azure oriole]

but for tyrants and barons lock on is best. And ofc consecutive slobs kill any possessed enemy so...

[hushed garden]

damn i thought unmaykr would finally have some utility but I guess not lmao

[hushed garden]

would be a good idea to stop playing at that point

[azure oriole]

lol not much

[azure oriole]

Good place to quit then, Samur on nm is an... experience for the first time. You wanna do it fresh

[burnt moss]

I only have one BFG. Maybe I should go back for one more. For the final phase.

[azure oriole]

If you are going to do the BFG trick for phase 5 you only need one shot.
If not, again, BFG not that good against possessed.

[opal galleon]

4 arb for pos pain like 5/6 lock on for pos dread

[azure oriole]

yeah

p sure dread is killed with 4 slobs

also pb rocket is iirc better damage against dreads than lock on but harder to land ofc

[burnt moss]

On UV I used 2 BFGs on the possessed dread after taking out the pain. Is arbalest better than lock for killing the pain?

[opal galleon]

More efficient ammo wise

[azure oriole]

yeah arbalest is the best against PE

4 shots kills it

and just spam lock on burst on the dread knight

[burnt moss]

I cannot keep my distance with dread knight

Especially because lockon takes so long and is so touchy

[azure oriole]

btw the BFG trick is, fire a BFG across the arena just as phase 4 is about to end (you see Samur "stun" and has only a sliver of health left)
The tendrils kill the PE and DK before they get possessed as they spawn in (during the "cutscene")
Then just mwb the spirits and win

[slow sigil]

If you keep yourself on the higher platforms he can't attack you pretty much

[burnt moss]

Platforming while fighting is maybe my biggest weakness. That and precise aim.

[azure oriole]

remember you needn't fire all your rocket ammo at once.
Fire one or two lobs, reposition, rinse and repeat

[slow sigil]

It's only double jumping and dash from 1 place to the other, it's not too hard dw. And it get's easiet once you kill the PE because then youcan kinda take your time

[azure oriole]

and yeah stay up, going down on the floor is death

[burnt moss]

PE respawns though making above constantly dangerous

[slow sigil]

Yeah but not possesed

[azure oriole]

non-possessed is barely a threat at that point. Also freeze it if it gets in the way

you need to be quick in phase 5 anyway

[burnt moss]

Phase one, do I kill the eyes?

[azure oriole]

Try to ignore them and focus on samur. Keep your distance and they shouldn't be much trouble.
If you have to kill, pb ballista is fastest way

[slow sigil]

You can kill the one closeby, i think usually one is far away other one is close
Also don't trust the range that they show, in actuality it's like way more

[burnt moss]

Range?

[slow sigil]

Of their electricity discharge thingy

[azure oriole]

they have this effect around them but their damage range is way longer than that yeah

[burnt moss]

Oh yeah it’s terrible.

[burnt moss]

So if I kill just one I still have to run from the other

[slow panther]

Any tips when reaching the Kalibas on UN, I just died there.

[slow sigil]

Yeah but like, they dont move fast
And i think it prevents samur from summoning new ones but idk for sure

[strong ibex]

Samur will only summon more eyes if both are gone

[azure oriole]

iirc keeping one alive means he won't spawn more but not sure either

[azure oriole]

it's a tricky spot. Equip saving throw just in case if you have it.
Kill the pain elementals immediately when they spawn (2), just spam arbalest

[burnt moss]

Wait new phases of Samur don’t replenish BFG?

[azure oriole]

no only gladiator fight does that

but again outside of the phase 5 cheese BFG is not that good in samur fight

[dim solar]

@azure oriole papa asiju, you missed the stream! but you can still watch the replay here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsceEAbTJGA

[burnt moss]

I don’t use BFG for cheese, just for damage

[slow panther]

I already used saving throw once in Gladiator fight. I thought that BFG would affect the eye so I fire it, but at least I know it won't.

[dim solar]

it only lags a little at the beginning

and sorry it looks all foggy

[azure oriole]

neat I'll check it out later!

[dim solar]

I forgot to calibrate the color in the capture card

[azure oriole]

that's the point, the BFG does not damage anything that much.
Samur is better fought with combos (pb bal) and there aren't that many enemies in any phase + possessed take practically chip damage

[slow sigil]

Gladiator gives you bfg charges back?

[azure oriole]

yeah phase 2 refills all youir ammo incl bfg shots

Hola Slayers

[slow sigil]

Considering on UN you literally have nothing else to use bfg on after, why not double bfg something in p5

[slow panther]

For me BFG is only worth using on the possessed demon or clearing out the arena

[azure oriole]

arbalest kills PE fasfer than BFG and lock on kills DK faster than BFG

[burnt moss]

Well it made the difference in phase 5 for me in UV. I think mainly because beating a hard phase is based on a combination of good decisions and mistakes, the ability to gauge damage quickly with BFG still improves my chances of beating it

[ivory ore]

Or be a chad and bypass the spirit phases by using blood shots strategy

[burnt moss]

Which is

[azure oriole]

the one I told you about

[burnt moss]

Oh the cheese

[slow sigil]

I thought bfg was just about faster then arb

Also, it doesnt zoom in an obnoxiously high amount

[azure oriole]

still it's also easier to miss your shot, bfg projectile is slower and only a direct hit is worth anything

[slow sigil]

Counter: it may be easier since you only need 2 hits, not 4, without a changed fov/sensitivity

[burnt moss]

The dread knight ensures distance from target won’t be a problem

[slow sigil]

The platfroms up above

[azure oriole]

I'm fairly sure even 2 direct hits with bfg won't kill the pos. PE

[slow sigil]

Even ones in the corners are good cause the dreadknight will be locked in his jumping anim

[burnt moss]

I’m just saying you don’t have to worry about missing the dread

[slow sigil]

When i played it it did, or i needed like 1 last shot from just normal bal

[azure oriole]

Remember: tendrils do not damage the possessed enemies practically at all

[slow sigil]

The ones with samur especially

[burnt moss]

I’m not talking about tendrils. I’m saying it takes a ton of effort to stay further than point blank from dread so, with any skill at all, missing him is impossible.

[azure oriole]

they don't do much to other possessed either. Iirc the resistance to BFG (both tendrils and direct) is smth like 90+ %

[azure oriole]

ah I see

[slow sigil]

Nah but the samur ones have an even higher resistance then normal ones

[burnt moss]

Game is glitching. I’m on phase 3 with floor is lava/cacos. But after a few deaths Samur is now positioned where he was in phase 1.

[slow sigil]

Lmao

[azure oriole]

could be, ofc tendrils are less useful even with same resistance due to small arena

I mean double direct BFG hit on either pos. enemy on phase 5 is an option sure but equally good or better options exist
So not having BFG ammo there is hardly an issue
Rather make sure you restack before phase 5

[burnt moss]

This could be bad

[slow sigil]

Nahhh he likely will reset in p4

[burnt moss]

But I can’t beat him in phase 3 at all. Floor is lava and 2/4 platforms are as well

[slow sigil]

Equip the rune that makes enemies stay staggered for longer and just sticky the caco's

Only GK them if you need the health restacking, and flame them for armour

[azure oriole]

that phase is purely time-based, survive long enough and it will end
Ofc it's possible it has glitched out and doesn't finish but give it a shot

[burnt moss]

Ok but what do I do about Samur shooting slow-down beams at me the whole time?

[azure oriole]

oh he actually attacks you, lols

[slow sigil]

Oh that is rather weird lmfao

[burnt moss]

Like I said, Samur thinks it’s phase 1

[slow sigil]

Restarting checkpoint doesnt work?

[burnt moss]

Nope

[dim solar]

Golden, did you by any chance hack your switch and are now playing some kind of The Holt mod for masochists? 😂

[azure oriole]

just quit out and restart game and reload. You should resume from latest checkpoint or at worst from the beginning of samur fight

[slow sigil]

Going out of campaign/game and coming back also doesnt?

[dim solar]

I think this resets the fight to phase 1 so it should work

[slow sigil]

Fairly certain that samur saved inbetween phases

[burnt moss]

I went to the other two levels in mission select and played them a bit

[slow sigil]

Samur finally made p3 interesting

[dim solar]

huh, on second thought, yeah, thats true lol

[burnt moss]

I finally made it to where the eyes appear. Btw I think there’s also cacos

[slow sigil]

Wtf is happening with samur for you

[burnt moss]

Fuck it, activating sentinel armor

[azure oriole]

lols your game is freaking out

[azure oriole]

you think

tf is happening for you

[burnt moss]

So I died on phase 3 of Samur multiple times, and then one time when I restarted from checkpoint, it gave me the pillar/floor is lava setup of phase 3 (with all the cacos and the lasers) but Samur was in the fight dishing out his attacks, and the fodder were wading through the lava, and the cacos were still there, and the eyes started appearing too.

Guys, what is phase 4 supposed to be?

[azure oriole]

as far as i remember just samur by himself but with some high up platforms but idk i could be totally wrong

maybe there's a blood maykr in the mix idk

[dim solar]

phase 4 is the same as phase 1 but with a bm around and also electric eyes and lasers

[azure oriole]

https://youtu.be/gJARVB0OJAI?t=1729

definitely no cacos, xd

[azure oriole]

is that self-promo I'm seeing with my very own eyes? yeah, i don't think so, kid. have fun with the banhammer. that'll teach you to go against the rules.

[brittle quest]

How appropriate. Good job on keeping the topic related to Doom Eternal. Keep up the good work Slayer.

[azure oriole]

easier to show than explain...

[burnt moss]

Update: Phase 3 (featuring a special appearance by Samur and Eyes) was beaten using the shield Chaingun, rage against the machine, and (most importantly) sentinel armor.

[slow sigil]

Gl with p5 in which the icon will make a surprise appearence

[azure oriole]

sounds like a good strat

[ivory ore]

P6 is gonna be hectic asf

[azure oriole]

prepare for trouble... and make it double

[azure oriole]

surprise, Samur has traffic lights!

[burnt moss]

The next phase (a pos elemental and pos dread) initially spawned onto the phase 3 floor-is-lava setup. I promptly died. Now it’s full-on phase 5.

[brittle quest]

A piece of shit elemental and a piece of shit dread

[burnt moss]

Precisely

[slow sigil]

now this is the fucking funzone mate

[azure oriole]

wait wut? You went from phase 3 to phase 5 direct?

[burnt moss]

For those of you paying attention, I’ve somehow skipped phase 4.

[azure oriole]

Lol

[slow sigil]

New speedrunning tactic

[brittle quest]

That seems a positive

[azure oriole]

Okay keep playing I reallly want to hear what happens next

[azure oriole]

not even bloodshot knows this one!

[slow sigil]

I swear if the icon actually appears-

[brittle quest]

here before spirit ai breaks and it possesses samur instead

[azure oriole]

at this point it wouldn't surprise me. Or icon and davoth both show up to help ol' samur out

[azure oriole]

or the spirits possess each other and cause a resonance cascade and next thing you know you are in Xen

[burnt moss]

What are you doing, step-marauder?

[sturdy rapids]

No

[slow sigil]

Samur just gets a gun.

[burnt moss]

Jk nothing else is weird now. Thanks for the advice with arbalest. I almost beat it just now but my mwb disconnected for no reason

[ember void]

[sturdy rapids]

Stop

[burnt moss]

Sentinel armor is real tempting right now

[slow panther]

Yeah\

I got my ass kicked by Doom Hunter when 1st time playing the campaign, so I use sentinel armor

[ember void]

Doom hunter?

I suppose he can fuck you up if you're new to the game. The bossfight doom hunter is real nasty compared to regular doom hunters.

[burnt moss]

Same

[slow sigil]

meh since you can freeze them now not nearly as much

[ember void]

You can freeze the boss doom hunter now?

Huh. I never knew that.

Then again, I have not been playing eternal.

[slow sigil]

been like a few updates earlier

kinda a change that is wayyy too late

[burnt moss]

I’m having a hard time killing the spirits because of the pos demon and the blood Maykr

[slow sigil]

higher platforms
also if you cant do that just keep behind a pillar from the bmakyr

[burnt moss]

I was right by the high portal and the pos PE and the blood Maykr were right there

Samur defeated. Saving throw activated while I was microwaving the last spirit

[azure oriole]

now go sleep already!

[burnt moss]

Haha ok. I just remembered that I’m not tired yet because I got a nap right before dinner. So I should still be ok on sleep.

[mossy nova]

some how the dark lord boss fight was more easy now with the mobile turret chaingun (but now its on ultra violence i refight it)

[slow panther]

Yeah, the boss fight variant is really dangerous because he can end you really fast with random movement if you really close.

[digital jewel]

I liked Hayden more when he wasn't the same person as Samur

He was better off being just a brain in a robot

Not some godly chancellor to the Khan Maykr or some shit lol

[mossy nova]

is there any way to emulate hdr on a laptop that doesnt have hdr support

and fun fact: the dragon that doom guy rode named is bababooey im not joking

[digital jewel]

LOL

[ember void]

Doom slayer's dragon is named bababooey

[azure oriole]

is that so

[ember void]

"He has been named Bababooey by the community." 💀

[brittle quest]

🥵

[topaz hedge]

sweatybooey

i dont know... just filling space

[ivory ore]

pie

[quartz charm]

pie

[mighty pilot]

UAC.
For 2 main reasons:

1. the armour is green and the radiation suit is yellow, not the other way around. That way they match their pickups and you're less likely to be confused
2. the "ready for use" on the equipment bottom right, and the "full capacity" in the weapon wheel are a solid attention-grabbing red on a background of passive blue. Makes it much clearer and harder to miss.

If you had fun and felt no desire for a greater challenge, then yes, you should have been done with the game.
Videogames are for fun, not stress. If you want stress, I'm sure you can find it somewhere else in life.

[mighty pilot]

I think stun->hammer->mobile turret is the best and fastest way to damage the Dark Lord.

[ruby solar]

Greetings, Fellow Slayers. I just received the Barbarian Skin for purchasing the Ancient gods part 2, and the Groggor skin looks an awful lot like a certain character…

[slow sigil]

I though mobile turret didnt do increased damage so probably not, does it 2cycle davoth?

[ruby solar]

Anyone else like to imagine the Lumberjack Skin is the Marauder’s retirement plan?

[mossy nova]

Immorra was almost perfect but the maykrs ruined it

[mighty pilot]

If you're quick enough, yeah, I bet it could easily 2 cycle him. I don't remember too much from my own Nightmare fight beyond it being a very effective method. Plus I don't think I lost any extra lives to him.

[ruby solar]

Immorra was almost perfect but the maykrs ruined it
@mossy nova so I’ve heard.

[mossy nova]

What

[ruby solar]

Y> What
@mossy nova you don’t know what that means?

[mossy nova]

Wdym

[ruby solar]

So I’ve heard, means I know, I’ve heard it many times

[mighty pilot]

The Maykrs actually discovered the secret to immortality, the very thing that Davoth wanted for the people of Jekkad- but instead of telling him they just decided "nah" which is what created Hell in the first place

[viral cosmos]

why do you still have quotes

[ruby solar]

why do you still have quotes
@viral cosmos my phone doesn’t let me reply, my iPad and chrome book do, but not this

[mossy nova]

Greed ?

[viral cosmos]

ok

[slow sigil]

Well cause if it can 2 cycle it's technically just as good as any other except 1 cycles ofc

[ruby solar]

ok
@viral cosmos I’m gonna try to update when I get home from school. And if that doesn’t give me the reply option, I don’t know what will.

[mighty pilot]

Maybe. The beings of Jekkad WERE created without doubt or restraint, which is basically a recipe for disaster to begin with.
Then again Doomguy is the same way and he saved the multiverse.

[slow sigil]

i dont remember any codex stating that beings from jekkad where made without doubt nor restraint

[mossy nova]

Davoth could just remove that disaster and also memory maybe without hurting his people remember hes the creator

[slow sigil]

If davoth was a god that could do anything like completely removing any thraces of that disastor, then he probably also didnt need to make the makyrs to try and find out immortality

[mossy nova]

Thats what i was saying

[random vault]

Hi doomers

[quartz charm]

Why are the maykr drones built like those figures in the Lego Harry Potter board game set

[random vault]

Enemy designing is hard :(

[quartz charm]

They could’ve been cooler

[random vault]

true

[quartz charm]

Literally walking 🗿 emoji

[slow sigil]

Idk what other concept arts where made for them

[random vault]

https://tenor.com/view/moyai-pachucos-ump-feliks-gif-24006479

[quartz charm]

Maykr drone

[random vault]

True

[quartz charm]

Maykr drones be sounding goofy af

[random vault]

Fr

[quartz charm]

BEEEEEEEEEEÉ

Stfu vega

[random vault]

b

[quartz charm]

b

[random vault]

H

[quartz charm]

b 🗿
🧂

[random vault]

B vineboom
salt

[quartz charm]

🗿
🧂

Literally how the maykr drones are built

[random vault]

so true 🥺

[quartz charm]

Cacodemon built like

(👁️)
👄
/ \

[mighty pilot]

Read 'em again, it's in there

[flat oriole]

[slow sigil]

Which one

[mossy nova]

Balls

[random vault]

Screw you discord

[quartz charm]

HOW IS THAT SPAMMING
VEGA IS TRIPPING BRO

[mossy nova]

I have bio

[random vault]

Fr, you would never spam 🥺

[quartz charm]

Exactly

[random vault]

So do I

[quartz charm]

balls

[random vault]

!!

[mossy nova]

I have hype squad brialince

[quartz charm]

SODA‼️🥤‼️

[random vault]

Good for you, I’m bravery

[quartz charm]

obamna 🥺👿

[brittle quest]

I have ball

Dumbass spammer

Don't spam

[random vault]

Shut up

[quartz charm]

Shut up doom marine

That’s why you look like a p.e teacher

[brittle quest]

Oh my. They multiply

[random vault]

You are mother

[quartz charm]

Yea unlike your body count💀💀

[ocean bramble]

I see sum blyatman stuff happening here

From both sides

[random vault]

Guh??

[mossy nova]

How many doom guy super fans in the game ?

[brittle quest]

Your body count multiplies, but the value remains constant.

[random vault]

Nice coc

[brittle quest]

ok

[random vault]

ok

[random vault]

what do you mean “in game”

[mossy nova]

Like intern guy dr elena

[random vault]

idk

cool

[brittle quest]

your pfp is cute

[random vault]

Thanks

[mighty pilot]

All of humanity.
Some people literally believe Doomguy is the 2nd coming of Christ.

[azure oriole]

yeah

[random vault]

What he said

[burnt moss]

Faster than LOB?

You day-timers missed my Samur glitch 8 hours ago. It was hilarious and ridiculous

[ruby solar]

What happened?

[hasty imp]

S.S.P

[ruby solar]

A marauder spawned in a while ago, then he died seconds after I hit him with a SSG blast, it looked like he slipped on a banana and snapped his neck.

[ocean bramble]

There was a person that did die from slipping on a banana peel

[burnt moss]

Well during phase 3, during which the floor is lava and the lasers come out, I kept dying to the cacos that you’re supposed to kill. But after a few deaths, Samur spawned on a pillar and started throwing all the attacks from Phase 1. Then, after using Sentinel Armor to kill him, I was in Phase 5 but the floor-is-lava setup remained. Until I died again and then the game normalized.

[ruby solar]

Lol

[ocean bramble]

Slipped, fell in a machine and got crushed

Or something along the lines, been ages since i heard of it

[hearty turtle]

Once again i have slipped up and Switched to bfg instead of shotgun on the weapon wheel and fired it on horde mode, i keep doing that, its a bit annoying. Guess no bonus this time

[full crystal]

just unbind it

[hearty turtle]

Im on xbox, i tried removing it from the weapon wheel, that is not an option

[slow sigil]

it is, you just gotta sacrifice another weapon

and you have a free weapon bind on your controller too

[azure forum]

I currently play with a 4 weapon wheel size. Best thing ever

[hearty turtle]

Ok, muscle memory is being a pain in the ass now

I use all weapons and all mods, losing that many weapons won't work very well for me

[azure forum]

I still use all weapons

No mods though. Also, no BFG

You can still technically have everything with a 6 weapon wheel size

[hearty turtle]

Thats what im doing, im putting one of the shotguns on up on dpad

[azure forum]

Right. SSG and bFG go to buttons. I personally prefer SSG on R3 or L3 AND BFG in dpad

[slow sigil]

you dont at all have to use all mods, since some weapon mods are just fairly bad compared to the alternative with just a handfull of uses. only problem would be muscle memory

[burnt moss]

But the Switch Pro Controller dpad is stupid and so I still accidentally pull out BFG sometimes

[azure forum]

You need to re train your muscle memory

[azure forum]

Correct. I got to the point where switching mods isn't needed anymore

[burnt moss]

Ok what about dblade/arbalest though?

[hearty turtle]

only thing i dont use as often is destroyer blade, i use everything else pretty frequently, even auto shotgun or microwave beam

[azure forum]

Dblade all day

Stickies
SSG
Dblade
Lock on
PB
Microwave beam
Shield

That's all you need imo

[burnt moss]

But I used Arbalest to kill the pos pain elemental last night

[azure forum]

2 lock on kill PE

[burnt moss]

Pos during Samur

[azure forum]

I think for samur, 4 lock on and 1 BFG shot was great against the PE

[slow sigil]

unless you do the tricks to have no modswitch time, then it just straight up is barely worth it at all

[hearty turtle]

I just spam arbalest, dblade takes a little bit longer to charge and ill have to get used to that to use it more, should probably use it for damage more than only specifically for lining it up to kill multiple demons

[quartz charm]

Pain elemental ❌
Hurt fundamental ✅

[burnt moss]

I was out of BFG and this discord told me use arbalest. 4 I think. Point being there’s still value to modswap

[azure forum]

But i think maybe the only mod worth switching for is probably arbalest. And even then not worth the time honestly

[slow sigil]

dblade has wayyy higher damage potentional, it's so strong, bordering OP

[azure forum]

Yep yep arbalest is great against it. The only thing is that he moves a lot and it's hard to hit him sometimes. Thats where lock on is a little better. But arbalest definitely great against him

[burnt moss]

I did have a hard time hitting him, you’re right. And then his stupid souls intercept as well

[azure forum]

Also, 1 charge Dblade is amazing In general. You csn kill some demons for 16 plasma charges

[burnt moss]

I’ve def been sleeping on that

[azure forum]

Thats one of the things I didn't realized before. You don't need to fully charge the blade. You can still wipe things with 1-2 charges

[slow sigil]

pos. pain elementals are one of the only scenarios in which it is good, thats it

[burnt moss]

Hey I’m starting TAG 2 NM tonight and I’m trying to remember what parts are hard. Wasn’t it just like one or two fights on Immora?

[burnt moss]

Perhaps I should have just used LOB for the whole fight then

[azure forum]

Hardest part in my opinion is the fountain fight in World Spear. Then reclaimed earth has some interesting encounters.

[hearty turtle]

Ok utilizing Dblade more, it is in fact very useful and powerful

[azure forum]

If anything, I think the final arena in reclaimed earth is the hardest one

[burnt moss]

Oh yeah, stupid purple stuff

[azure forum]

Yep. That's why I cut my weapon wheel to 4. I found that switching mods isn't worth it and you csn beat the entire game without switching mods. Also, playing in nightmare or any other lower difficulty, BFG isn't necessary since you have infinite lives

[slow sigil]

costs too much rockets

[azure forum]

And having a 4 ww size makes switching much better to be honest

[burnt moss]

Funny thing happened with the fountain. On my UV run I remembered it being terrible because I was remembering the ML encounter of it. So it was actually super easy by comparison haha.

[quartz charm]

Auuuugghhhhh

[slow sigil]

i bet, it'll be easier to get the right weapon

[azure forum]

The easiest way to beat it and without any issues, when you get there, as soon as the mancs spawn, fire a BFG to the sky. Easy weezy.

[azure forum]

Right. You basically avoid the stupid mistakes of switching to the wrong weapon since it is either up, down, left, right

[burnt moss]

I just need to work on sky-camping. And abusing ice bomb.

[burnt moss]

Wut

[quartz charm]

Auuuuugggggghhhhh

[azure forum]

In World Spear master level, they changed where you csn actually stand on the fountain sides so you can actually easily go back and forth. In the regular level, I don't complicate my life. bfg and move on. I hate that arena tbh

[random vault]

TikTok funny sound

[azure oriole]

Uesh. Sometimes

[azure oriole]

That's what I do 9/10 times

Really cba to anything else

[burnt moss]

Cba?

[azure oriole]

Can't be arsed

[burnt moss]

Meaning you just don’t want to bother with that fight?

[azure oriole]

Yes

Can't be arsed =can't be bothered to do smth

100% challenges items and demonic corruption on doom hunter base

[burnt moss]

Neat. Now do it backwards.

[azure oriole]

i also did 100% hell on earth and exultia and missed 1 praetor point in cultist base

Also I like how deag ranak tries to bribe the slayer to let them live and doomguy goes NO

[azure oriole]

Esab retnuh mood no noitpurroc cinomed dna smeti segnellahc %001

Is destroyer blade useful?

Ehksnehd

[jaunty vapor]

Destroyer Blade is considered one of the best mods, yeah.

[patent stream]

Very

[random vault]

Hi doomers

[random vault]

yes

[azure oriole]

I sadly only have enough sentinel batteries for 3 and a half openings so I have to pick a ballista mod should i go arbalest

[jaunty vapor]

Arc Complex alone makes Dblade worth getting, let alone other areas/use cases

[azure oriole]

Well youll end up having all opened if you 100% before Nekravol anywyas

[random vault]

I’d rather have dblade then arbalest

[azure oriole]

Well

[jaunty vapor]

If you're more comfortable with Arb, go Arb. Dblade is good when you know how to use it or the best spots for it, but Arb is easier to use anywhere

[azure oriole]

I can get one mod in the fortress and get another one in super gore nest

So i can get both

I have one extra sentinel battery what should i put it into

[jaunty vapor]

There are 2 mods in SGN. Though I'm assuming Energy Shield is one of them

[azure oriole]

Yeah

I'll get Dblade and energy shield in SGN

time to start up SGN

[jaunty vapor]

That's probably best. The first mod is so close anyways, and the first arena doesn't benefit much from Dblade

[azure oriole]

Plus its a challenge in SGN to get a mod

Plus arb one shots cacos

Also you can build arb mastery off the non hostile cacos in Hell on earth

So does sticky bombs

MoL

[azure oriole]

?

More or less

yeah theres a lot of abbrevations used in DE

[slow sigil]

it would take so much effort to type everything out all the time

[azure oriole]

Y (As in yes)

Almost done mastering SSG

[jaunty vapor]

NMG SR WR using PB is GOAT LOL LMAO

[azure oriole]

What are all the level abbrevations

V tru

[jaunty vapor]

Honestly I read what I just typed and I kinda wanna

[azure oriole]

Its okay

[slow sigil]

HellOE (cant say without ell)
uhhh idk how it was called
CB
DHB
SGN
Arc
MC
TN
urdak
icon

[jaunty vapor]

Exultia

[opal galleon]

Hearth (old one is censored)
I just see Exultia being fully typed out honestly
CB
DHB
SGN
Arc
MC
Glad
TN
Urdak
And yeah icon

[azure oriole]

I like how sentinel prime is just glad

[opal galleon]

Oh yeah and Nek 1/2

[jaunty vapor]

I usually just see people say Cultist, Mars Core, and will interchangeably see TN or Taras

[azure oriole]

Nek

[jaunty vapor]

Final Sin I usually just see as Final Sin or Icon.

[azure oriole]

Also seek and destroy affects chainsaw range

[jaunty vapor]

It doesn't.

[azure oriole]

Then why am i just teleporting with chainsaw

[opal galleon]

Chainsaw range is already very large

[jaunty vapor]

The only rune that affects chainsaw is Blood Fueled

[slow sigil]

yes

[azure oriole]

i thought that was seek and destroy doing it

[random vault]

What he said

[jaunty vapor]

Seek and Destroy only worked on Glory Kills, unless a recent patch changed it (doubtful though)

Chainsaw range is very good though, S/D would make it ridiculous lol

[opal galleon]

Pretty sure it's still the former

[azure oriole]

Also if you go to the restaurant area in arc complex grab the berserk and change from dazed and confused to savargy you can just spam attack and watch the slayer literally just teleport and rip the enemies apart without even looking at em

A beneficial patch?? One that doesn't patch speedrun tech?

god i hate prowlers

[opal galleon]

Simply incredible

[azure oriole]

Its really satisfying too

[jaunty vapor]

There have been a few rare instances of beneficial glitches being added, though nothing that makes speedruns better/faster

[quartz charm]

What is the most forgettable doom eternal level
Imo it’s nekravol

[azure oriole]

1 or 2?

[quartz charm]

2 tbh

[azure oriole]

Nekravol is short so maybe thats why

[quartz charm]

Yea

[azure oriole]

I dont remember Urdark much eother tho tbh

[azure oriole]

nekravol or sentinel prime

I'd go with Nekravol 1 + 2 tho

[quartz charm]

Urdak is anything but forgetful

It’s a loooong level

[azure oriole]

I only remember it being boring amd pretty quick

[jaunty vapor]

I think Nek 2 is a decent contender but I'll be honest, Taras Nabad is kinda bland as a level. The sewer fight is decent, Slayer gate is... Meh, but everything else is kinda boring.

[azure oriole]

Oh and the travesal being sucky

[quartz charm]

Sgn, arc, and mc
Best trio

[jaunty vapor]

And it's a shame cause Taras does have some decent areas for arenas, but base game definitely didn't use them well.

[quartz charm]

Yea

[azure oriole]

My favorites are SGN, MC

[quartz charm]

Ml made it better

[azure oriole]

I like TN too

[quartz charm]

Arc needs a better ml tbh
Too easy

[azure oriole]

It doesnt have UN even

[quartz charm]

Literally beat the ml on nightmare before I could even quick swap or just be good

[azure oriole]

I think at least idr

[quartz charm]

It doesn’t

[azure oriole]

I prob wont play Arc

[quartz charm]

Hell on earth needs a master level

[azure oriole]

No rewards no reason

[quartz charm]

Exactly

[jaunty vapor]

It was made before people "got gud" to be fair. I don't think id expected a lot of people to learn the high end stuff. Usually only a "niche player base" does that sort of thing

[quartz charm]

True

[jaunty vapor]

Like Arc ML is the equivalent of Final Sin, maybe a bit easier, but Final Sin is the hardest level, arena wise (obviously early game is harder considering the equipment at the time, etc)

[azure oriole]

First room instead of zombie its 3 marauders

Hearth: The Hardest Master Level

[jaunty vapor]

3 Marauders aren't that hard though, they're just annoying (and even in that room Id day the same)

[azure oriole]

They are possesed too

And the room's now twice as small

[quartz charm]

And there are 5 screechers

[azure oriole]

And the floor is dangerous

[jaunty vapor]

Funnily enough making them possessed would make it easier since you then you could do mobile Turret stun lock, but that's better here nor there

[burnt moss]

And then Samur comes in

[azure oriole]

Is the bfg division record still in doom eternal?

Yes

[quartz charm]

And then your mom comes in and breaks the entire floor

[azure oriole]

Its in the Prison room

[quartz charm]

Yes

[burnt moss]

Hey did you hear about my Samur glitch?

[jaunty vapor]

I did not

[azure oriole]

Which is stupid as you have to save and quit to hear it if you beat demon prison

[timid relic]

Tip to defeat The Dark Lord.
Step one pour @tacit tapir on him.

He will inta delete him ❤️

[azure oriole]

Every enemy is Khan Maykr, Davoth, or Samur

[timid relic]

Have you tried 4 possessed mauraders?

[burnt moss]

#doom-eternal message

[jaunty vapor]

People need to get new material.

[strange gale]

i know this is a joke but that's still hilariously thoughtless encounter design
multiple marauder encounters already revolve around divide & conquer which is just playing the encounter as if there was a minute long gap between each marauder spawn, but here you'd just use the pillars to bait green eyes and then go for non-committal damage
i guess the small bit of difficulty would come from fucking up even a single dash most likely leading to getting stunlock combo'd

[quartz charm]

Yes

[jaunty vapor]

...huh.

[azure oriole]

Like what

[timid relic]

POG

[jaunty vapor]

That's... A new one. XD

[azure oriole]

Slowmode with low mobile data smh it sucks

[burnt moss]

Haha right? Good thing it wasn’t my first run or I’d have no idea anything was wrong

[timid relic]

Sir, I found joe

[burnt moss]

Also someone said I discovered a speed run tactic even you didn’t know haha. Because I got to skip a phase.

[jaunty vapor]

Did he bug out once you used sentinel armor, or was it just randomly after a certain point?

[burnt moss]

No I killed him. Same as phase 1. But with Chaingun bc why not.

[timid relic]

Use blood punch to bring Samurs health low

I do that. Just make sure you use the shield

[azure oriole]

Attack the boss to lower its health till it dies 🤓

[burnt moss]

DreadKnights that actively reproduce if left alone

[azure oriole]

They asexually reproduce?

[timid relic]

If you hit him twice it will be below 45%

[burnt moss]

Nope, sexually

[jaunty vapor]

Weird.

[quartz charm]

Imagine taking a shit in school

[azure oriole]

It shows that ingame?!

[burnt moss]

Seriously

[burnt moss]

What? No. It’s an idea for Hell on Earth ML

[timid relic]

I’ll really recommend to go first for the dread night then the pain elemental

[jaunty vapor]

On older patches, the best tactic is using Desperate Punch, as it was bugged out to only work at 65 or less health, but did triple damage. 2 blood punches would complete phase 4 that way.

[timid relic]

Dread night is a pain in the ax when it’s possessed

[azure oriole]

Ax? Like Axe? LIKE marauder? LIKE DOOM?

[timid relic]

Interesting info commarade

[timid relic]

Cringe

[azure oriole]

How is bunny cringe

[timid relic]

Marauder will never touch Daisy!

Slayer will delete him instantly

[burnt moss]

Only thing I can think of that caused it, is I shot at him up on the ceiling before the glitch. Might’ve pissed him off enough to come down

[timid relic]

🧢

[burnt moss]

Marauder will touch daisy and half of you will watch it

[timid relic]

Hell no

[azure oriole]

It died from weaker demons

[timid relic]

Pain!

[burnt moss]

“…let me show you…”

[azure oriole]

[timid relic]

JOE ||BIDEN||

[azure oriole]

Ok

[timid relic]

I’m watching you @azure oriole

Don’t touch Daisy

[azure oriole]

Ok

[timid relic]

I did it without it 👌

[somber cloud]

Same but my brother found a way to mess up

[timid relic]

Sir, how to I defeat the mayker?

[somber cloud]

Blood punch and meathook

[timid relic]

I kinda struggle with it.

Damn drones are annoying

[somber cloud]

I can't remember exactly but I did something to stagger her and then I used the neathook to bloodpunch

[timid relic]

When the wings turn green, right?

[somber cloud]

Ye

[timid relic]

Yereeeee boi

[somber cloud]

Wait no
Use the ballista then

I think
Been a while

[timid relic]

Hold up, what about rocket burst?

[somber cloud]

Gtg good luck

[timid relic]

It deals a lot of damage

[somber cloud]

Maybe
See ya

[timid relic]

Cya

[quartz charm]

obamna 🥺👿

[burnt moss]

You fighting the Maykr?

[azure oriole]

Soda!!!

[quartz charm]

SODA🥤‼️😄😅🥶

[viral cosmos]

why make an ml out of a tutorial level

[burnt moss]

It was a joke

[viral cosmos]

okay

[thorny crag]

I don't know why but i just never use the chaingun

What is the chaingun even good for

I guess running away with the shield mod

[valid wren]

Yeah and easily killing pinkies

Also good for just going in heavy demons

you can dash and shoot them

and when its all finished it also throws the shield

Its pretty useful it can safe you if you use it correctly

[thorny crag]

Hm probably

I'll try to use it more often and see what happens

Because often i just forget about it

Or i just dont need it cuz i have all the other shit

Is the mobile turret good in any way bc i remember it being absolutely kick ass in d2016

[sacred dirge]

It was fun yeah

[full crystal]

mobile turret was good because the other mod sucked

[burnt moss]

I feel like I’ve died several times to possessed DreadKnights while shielded. How can that be?

[thorny crag]

True

Like fu ing wind up for the chaingun

I know some people like it but tf is the point? You will get the same effect if you will just wait a second or two for it to wind up by itself

[mighty pilot]

Book Of The Seraphs - Part I

"The Father gifted Jekkad's denizens with burning ambition and he repressed restraint, so that indecisiveness could not curb their efforts."

[slow sigil]

ah alr, missed that then ig

[sacred dirge]

It actually does more damage with Incendiary Rounds but I never found it fun

[valid wren]

Dunno skill issue you tell me

[full crystal]

the turret does more dps by default and its not like ammo was an issue at all in 2016

[sacred dirge]

That's what I thought but I tested it and it doesn't really

You're free to try also

I'll record it next time

[dim solar]

imo chaingun in 2016 sucked ass

[ruby solar]

For the BFG, Default, Gold BFG, Sigil, or Astro?

[dim solar]

Both mods were useless, that's the one weapon I would skip in every run

[sacred dirge]

Yeah I only used it because I love how turret looked and felt and that shred feeling

[ruby solar]

imo chaingun in 2016 sucked ass
@dim solar agreed

[sacred dirge]

Was a blast

[azure oriole]

Sigil or Gold

[ruby solar]

I like the runes on Sigil, but Gold is just too good. I don’t know which one

[sacred dirge]

Also loved using tactical scope with the heavy assault rifle. When it's mastered it's actually pretty effective in nightmare against imps. But generally just like how it felt

[ruby solar]

Ight. Select option 1 if I should use Gold, and Option 2 if I should use Sigil

[dim solar]

I think the reason I find chaingun to be so underwhelming in 2016 is exactly because of tactical scope

Tactical scope is just so much better in comparison and it doesnt burn through all your ammo in the blink of an eye like mobile turret does

[sacred dirge]

I also felt that it really let you reach out and when you get dev rounds

[dim solar]

Yeah, my priority on UN was always to get dev rounds on the tactical scope

By the beginning of mission 4 I'd have them already

[azure forum]

I'm pretty sure that the ground attack from hellknights, mancs and cyber mancs bypass the shield protection.

[ruby solar]

Weird. The Gold BFG only requires you to complete all escalation encounters, while the others require you to beat levels on nightmare and ultra nightmare

[dim solar]

Yeah, if you use energy shield the initial explosion of their attacks wont hurt you, but you still receive damage from the shit they leave on the ground

And that shit drains your health super fast

[jaunty vapor]

Dunno if anyone answered you, but any area of effect attacks go through energy shield.

(Cyber) Mancubus fire slam
Dread Knights Slam with electricity and shit
Archie flames

[ruby solar]

Imagine unlocking mobile turret before energy shield

[jaunty vapor]

Exactly what Mabel said actually, their descriptions a bit better

[quartz charm]

Sigil any day bro

[ruby solar]

Well. Sigil it is

Anyone else noticed how different the plasma rifle was in 2016? How long after that is eternal?

I get they were going for a more traditional design, but still

I’ve never played 2016 myself.

I’m just gonna say that so it’s said

[slow sigil]

Gladiator ropejumpimg

[ruby solar]

Ah yes. We will never forget that part of the boss fight.

I just noticed the Explosive shot and Charged Burst in 2016 (I think that’s the mod name, if not, it’s probably the mastery) are almost identical to the Sticky Bombs and Full Auto mods in Eternal. Well, the Sticky Bomb and Explosive Shot are.

Is there a chat revival ping?

[jaunty vapor]

Generally curious, are you playing one of these games for the first time right now? I'm assuming you played Eternal but not 2016 before but I might be wrong (and am too lazy to scroll up rn)

[ruby solar]

Generally curious, are you playing one of these games for the first time right now? I'm assuming you played Eternal but not 2016 before but I might be wrong (and am too lazy to scroll up rn)
@jaunty vapor no. I was just watching Markiplier play through Doom 2016

[azure oriole]

Shield does not protect from AoE attacks

[thorny crag]

Nah triple shot on shotgun (i call it that way) acted as a combo tool

Like u do triple rockets and then shotgun shot and then the triple shot in shotgun

[tired elk]

Does anyone who plays on PS4 or ps5 want to help me get the battle mode trophy’s so I can get platinum by playing on a private lobby?

[jaunty vapor]

Gotcha. Well from 2016 to Eternal, the only actually new/different mods would probably be Microwave Beam instead of Stun Bomb, and Energy Shield instead of Rotating Barrel. Everything else has some mod that's either exactly the same, or similar enough (sticky vs impact bombs, 3 round burst instead of full auto, precision bolt being one shot vs rapid fire, etc)

[thorny crag]

Tho u didn't even need to do any of this lmao

[ruby solar]

Gotcha. Well from 2016 to Eternal, the only actually new/different mods would probably be Microwave Beam instead of Stun Bomb, and Energy Shield instead of Rotating Barrel. Everything else has some mod that's either exactly the same, or similar enough (sticky vs impact bombs, 3 round burst instead of full auto, precision bolt being one shot vs rapid fire, etc)
@jaunty vapor yep.

[azure oriole]

Full Auto is a Super Weapon in DE2

[full crystal]

remote det and lock swap places in terms of which one is good and which one sucked

[azure oriole]

That's inzshane

[thorny crag]

Well the microwave beam does stun too so maybe its just worse stun bomb with a twist to it

[azure oriole]

Yes

[jaunty vapor]

Arb/Precision vs Dblade/Siege stayed the same in that the first was good but the second was REALLY fucking good

[azure oriole]

Ur v smart

[full crystal]

freeze just takes the place of stun bomb since thats how everyone used it in 2016 anyway

[jaunty vapor]

I was considering that, I think the implementation is different enough to be considered new.

Even if it's just worse stun bomb like you said XD

[ruby solar]

Arb/Precision vs Dblade/Siege stayed the same in that the first was good but the second was REALLY fucking good
@jaunty vapor yeah. Destroyer Blade was a good choice on my first play through.

Of course, EVERYONE knows microwave beam is the best starter for the Plasma Rifle, except Jacksepticeye.

[azure oriole]

I always get the other first

[azure oriole]

Stun.bomb is ice bomb in eternal.
Stun bomb is utterly broken tho, even unupgraded it stuns in a wide radius and cooldown is short

[thorny crag]

This is satire right

Cuz i was unfortunate enough to pick it on my first playthrough and i fu ing died trying to use it

[azure oriole]

Ice Bomb is a worse stun bomb

Bc ice bomb doesn't always work

[jaunty vapor]

I know I played 2016 before Eternal. And I'll admit to crutching on Stun Bomb at first for awhile.

[ruby solar]

I can’t quite remember, but I think the first mod I chose for each weapon was Full Auto, Precision Bolt, Microwave Beam, Lock-On Burst, Destroyer Blade, and Mobile Turret.

[azure oriole]

It's fun to use in combos! Especially early game.
But coming from eternal it's bonkers you have ice bomb practically always usable

For me SB, PB, Not MB, RD, Ballista idr, ES for CG

[full crystal]

once you find out about no charge siege shots, you dont even need to bother

[jaunty vapor]

Even without those Siege is bonkers, but... Yeaaaaaah XD

[ruby solar]

Remote Detonate is useless for most demons, but it DOES have its usefulness. Riot Soldiers, Pinkies, Mancubi, etc. Lock On Burst is the mod you should choose first. I’ll admit, I regretted choosing Mobile Turret, because it kept overheating. I tend to pick things that look cool, but I almost never pay attention to what it does.

[thorny crag]

When i replayed d2016 recently i tended to not use the siege mode bc it would break the experience

[azure oriole]

I can't recall was that some quickswap trick?

[thorny crag]

It was already easy enough anyway

[ruby solar]

I don’t think quickswapping was a thing in 2016.

[thorny crag]

It is a thing

[ruby solar]

Don’t you have to open the weapon wheel?

[thorny crag]

No

[full crystal]

not really a quickswap thing. mor eof a quick scope thing.

[jaunty vapor]

If you swapprd or just punched and spammed siege, it would fire instantly

[ruby solar]

Hm. Well I wouldn’t know, because like I said, I’ve never played 2016

[jaunty vapor]

So you could punch - siege anywhere, no charge up basically.

[brittle quest]

Qswapping in D16 is faster than in DE

[full crystal]

basically if you do the quickscope motion like with pb but with the gauss instead, it would do a full charge siege shot. the only drawback is that it uses double the ammo

[ruby solar]

And I think I might regret that when I do play it. Because no dashing, no meat hook, etc.

[azure oriole]

It totally is but not in the same way exactly as swapping back and forth between just 2 weapons isn't really that useful. Iirc

[thorny crag]

D2016 is relaxing

[jaunty vapor]

You could swap from weapons to shoot the other weapon without waiting for the previous one to finish, but weapons did not reset their fire animations when you swapped back to them. So in Doom Eternal, SSG - swap swap- SSG works. In 2016 it doesn't. This is why in 2016 you had the "alpha rotation" of SSG, Gauss, Rocket, because you would cycle from one to the next, etc

[pseudo thistle]

2016 was before eternal

[thorny crag]

Since its so easy i just boot it up to shoot some demons

[ruby solar]

2016 was before eternal
@pseudo thistle yeah, but they went for a more traditional approach for Eternal.

[pseudo thistle]

Yeah I know

everyone knows that, but 2016 was like 15-25 years earlier

[azure oriole]

2016 used the doom 3 pr design whereas eternal uses og doom design

[burnt moss]

I didn’t realize knights have ground attacks

[jaunty vapor]

Covid time be fucked up

[pseudo thistle]

but falling doesn’t for some reason

[ruby solar]

2016 used the doom 3 pr design whereas eternal uses og doom design
@azure oriole ahh, I see. Well, once again, I never played any of the doom games, except for DOOM 1, 2, and Eternal.

I did the first two through eternal

I can’t afford them

[random vault]

hi

[opal galleon]

Hi

[pseudo thistle]

Hi

[thorny crag]

Hi

[ruby solar]

Hi

[full crystal]

the worse part of playing 2016 after 1000 hours of eternal is not the lack of dashing or meathook or anything else. its blowing yourself up over and over again in the first level with the shotguns explosive shot

[jaunty vapor]

It still weird seeing your name not blue.

[pseudo thistle]

Bro literally just reply to the message

[pseudo thistle]

I also moved my boost

[azure oriole]

If you're on pc you can take the .wad files and play them on a source port for a superior experience

[opal galleon]

I moved my boosts to another server, may revert later

[brittle quest]

[azure oriole]

Yeh your own

[random vault]

palace

[ruby solar]

If you're on pc you can take the .wad files and play them on a source port for a superior experience
@azure oriole true. Also, is the ending of Doom 1 supposed to be like that?

[opal galleon]

I can't stand this servers emotes

[pseudo thistle]

nuro’s server is at level 2 again, when all the free nitros run out I’ll boost this one again

[opal galleon]

I need my death emote back

[jaunty vapor]

Kind of agree. I don't think it's that hard to go back to (though I play a ton of games so it's not hard for me to go from any game to another), but the self damage of nadea always gets me. Not a lot, but every so often I get complacent

[random vault]

No more :miseryhq:
No more happiness

[brittle quest]

They're all that's left for me

[azure oriole]

Idk how the bundled version ends?

[pseudo thistle]

I need :JoeBiden:

[azure oriole]

Yeah that was a culture shock, all explosives do self damage!

[opal galleon]

Only for stickers, which barring one nobody is really using

[ruby solar]

Idk how the bundled version ends?
@azure oriole I got teleported to a room where I was ambushed by a bunch of soldiers, and the game said, “what? You beat the game, go touch grass” or something like that.

[azure forum]

That's probably why stickies don't do damage in eternal

[brittle quest]

But the emotes :Fate:

[opal galleon]

Oh

[random vault]

:astolfo monster:

[pseudo thistle]

Oh can I recommend a sticker for palace?

[opal galleon]

Yeah just drop it in there

[pseudo thistle]

Ok

[azure oriole]

That's the ending of episode 1. Then you resume with 2etc

[random vault]

Hi DAD

[opal galleon]

Pure misery

[full crystal]

if stickies did self damage, they would kinda suck because they don't detonate right away. you could sticky an imp and it would run right up to you and melee you

[azure oriole]

Can't think of anything funny....

[restive cedar]

next event? any idea?

[brittle quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/880694524727394334.webp?size=128&quality=lossless

[opal galleon]

Rerun lmao

[azure forum]

And even if they did, I would still use them over full auto

[full crystal]

speaking of stickies, i wonder if its intentional that stickies DO explode on impact if it touches a piece of gore

[ruby solar]

You know what doesn’t make sense? The Archvile can be hurt by its own fireballs. I found out in the tutorial for it. I thought it controls fire, so by that logic, shouldn’t it be immune to its own fire?

[jaunty vapor]

They do that for barrels too right?

[full crystal]

i think so. i played around with the keep the dead mod where the gibs stay on the ground much longer and it makes sticks so much better because you can literally just cause the ground to explode all around you by spamming sticks at the it

[jaunty vapor]

It probably just uses similar code to the other demons weapons that have explosive. No real reason it needed to be different balance wise (I doubt fireball splash has ever been a deciding factor of a match).

Also it allows Archvile to die without the Slayer, so if they're at low health and their partner is hidden from Slayer, they can die to then respawn at half health, effectively healing them.

[ruby solar]

It probably just uses similar code to the other demons weapons that have explosive. No real reason it needed to be different balance wise (I doubt fireball splash has ever been a deciding factor of a match).

Also it allows Archvile to die without the Slayer, so I'd they're at low health and their partner is hidden from Slayer, they can die to then respawn at half health, effectively healing them.
@jaunty vapor ohhhh. Well that’s… useful.

[azure oriole]

True

[jaunty vapor]

My guess is the code used to determine what stickies are attaching too determines how they'll explode (crit, non crit, barrel i.e. instant explode), which gibs for whatever reason use the same type or tag as barrels. Or something.

Kinda half-assed guess without really looking into the code. But I guess it'd be weird to see the sticky "attached" to the gibs, which might look like the stickies attach to nothing.

[full crystal]

do you think sticks would be OP if they exploded on impact instead of the normal delay?

[ruby solar]

I don’t play battle mode. I would, but I don’t have a Nintendo online account. Well, my dad doesn’t. I would’ve bought doom eternal on MY profile, but I’m “not allowed to view that content”. So I had to buy it on my dads profile. Then I realized I’d have to buy it AGAIN on MY profile, which wouldn’t actually be that bad, since I could just disconnect my Bethesda account from my dads profile, to my profile, and then go from there.

[jaunty vapor]

Nah. And I don't think they'd be that much worse, either.

[azure oriole]

Someone told me BM doesnt need NSO

[opal galleon]

It does

[ruby solar]

I was about to say

[full crystal]

they felt so much better and more fun though when i had the mod on and just spammed the ground around me while i was getting swarmed by fodder

instant explosion on demand

[jaunty vapor]

Self damaging stickies would also not make them unusable. But it would prevent sticky spam at the ground when surrounded, which as you said is fun, and it does come into play a lot.

Also with instant explosives, you wouldn't get the weird "flame belch makes stickies a crit" thing which, while niche, is neat nonetheless.

[ruby solar]

Imagine the Sentinel Hammer if it was included in the Infinite Ammo cheat code.

[opal galleon]

🛌

[azure oriole]

I have NSO so it doesnt matter to me but still.

[azure oriole]

Just play on ur dad's profile ez!

[random vault]

😴

[ruby solar]

Just play on ur dad's profile ez!
@azure oriole I can’t. Because it won’t let me connect MY Nintendo online account to my DAD’S profile. I have my NSO account connected to MY profile.

[azure oriole]

Oh

I misread that part

[ruby solar]

Luckily, if I do eventually get it on my own profile, I won’t have to redo everything. Thank god you need an account to play. Otherwise I’d be screaming the entire time I replay through everything.

[random vault]

cool

[azure oriole]

Hi tmg9045#9045

[ruby solar]

Who was playing DOOM: Eternal before update 2?

[random vault]

Hi ic- I mean zshane#5493

[opal galleon]

Hi TMG.

[azure oriole]

💀 hi

[random vault]

Hello nutmilk

[azure oriole]

What update was it on when it first was on GamePass

[jaunty vapor]

Me, I imagine others too.

[ruby solar]

Me, I imagine others too.
@jaunty vapor how was the Infinite Crucible?

[jaunty vapor]

You mean the cheat code working with it? It was as boring as youd think, I dunno.

[opal galleon]

Glory kill sim 😴

[random vault]

😴

[jaunty vapor]

Unless you mean the glitch where Crucible is always active, which I think that's still.in the game. obviously crucible cancels still are

[ruby solar]

You mean the cheat code working with it? It was as boring as youd think, I dunno.
@jaunty vapor lol. When I first saw beserk mode gameplay, I thought it was an ability you got as the slayer. What a fool I was. Would’ve been cool

Like in the OG DOOM

Infinite Ammo is so much fun for me. Would be even MORE fun if the Crucible was still affected by it.

[random vault]

Infinite ammo is so boring

[ruby solar]

Everyone has their own opinions.

[random vault]

Correct, I’m stating mine

[jaunty vapor]

Infinite Ammo is a fun novelty that wears off rather quick.

[ruby solar]

Cheat codes are fun, but you get used to them easily, which leads you to believe the benefits they provide are just part of the game.

[azure oriole]

Like the Party Mode

[random vault]

the only thing I really like about it is being able to try unmayker without the burden of using BFG ammo

[jaunty vapor]

Just use overdri-

Oh wait

They patched it without mentioning it

🙃 yaaay 🙃

[random vault]

🙃

[opal galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/880694524727394334.webp?size=128&quality=lossless

[azure oriole]

I thought confetti was just an anatomically correct demon thing after using it so many times

[full crystal]

i wish the "cosmetic only" cheat codes like confetti and quakecon mode could be on all the time when on a new play through

[scenic egret]

Ok, i got a lot of points in the slayers club

How do i use them anyways

The only thing i GOT was the zombie suit

[random vault]

cool

[scenic egret]

I genuinely have no idea where to use this points tho

[azure forum]

They should have left it unpatched. Like it didn't do any harm, did it? If anything it made using the unmaykr cool for a moment

[burnt moss]

Really useful for 100% runs though

[jaunty vapor]

I think the only """problem""" was that it made every Overdrive arena after Taras (so... 2 of them, 1 in Nek2, 1 in Holt? Maybe I'm missing some) just rely on Unmaykr with little other experimentation for players.

Granted if they SAID this in whatever update it was patched it, I'd accept that. It's the lack of communication about it that's frustratingly annoying.

[dim solar]

@azure forum remember I told you about a pinky cave cheese in WS ML? this it it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHZF7W-2DxQ

[azure forum]

Ohh I see where it is now. I need to try that for sure

[brittle quest]

Gaming is what unites us

[dim solar]

Damn, I just realized I spelled Gaming incorrectly

[tight tangle]

wow ur really good

[dim solar]

wau ty~

[tight tangle]

ur welcum

[random vault]

hello discordkitten69

[random vault]

gameing

[dim solar]

No no
It's supposed to be Gayming

already fixed it tho

[random vault]

Me when I’m feeling fruity

[dim solar]

[tight tangle]

hi TMG9045

[random vault]

how are you

[tight tangle]

im alright ig u???

[random vault]

I’m kinda annoyed but overall fine

[dim solar]

y u annoyed

anything I can do to help u feel beter?

[random vault]

Metal gear rising Revengeance blocking mechanics

[random vault]

How nice of you 🥺

Thanks 🥺

[tight tangle]

ye y r u anoyed

[random vault]

Metal gear rising Revengeance blocking mechanics

[tight tangle]

oh

[dim solar]

oh, Sekiro in the future, never played it tbh

[random vault]

It’s fun, but I’m bad

[tight tangle]

i just started so im a noob lol

at doom

[random vault]

Which one

[tight tangle]

eternal

i have 1 3 64 and eternal

[random vault]

cool

[strong ibex]

If you're new to doom you should NOT start out with battlemode

[tight tangle]

ok tysm for the advice

[random vault]

Ignore this user, battlemode is the best!!!! You should play it now.

[tight tangle]

oh uh ok

tysm

[random vault]

❤️

[tight tangle]

❤️

[opal galleon]

♥️

[random vault]

💞

🥺

[strong ibex]

Don't listen to them! Play Campaign! Play Campaign!!!

[random vault]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerd-emoji-meme-speech-bubble-bubble-gif-25115885

[wet shard]

Bruh, Doom Eternal on Switch is just Hardmode xD

I mean it is not Impossible but, bruh

[azure oriole]

It is, it really is, I just got it on my switch

[random vault]

nimtedo switch

[wet shard]

I realy have trubbles beating it on Nightmare, its just... Not that I am realy bad at the game I am kinda average but bruh its just hard on the Switch

[burnt moss]

What’s harder about it? Are you just talking about handheld mode?

[wet shard]

Yea

[azure oriole]

I know it is bro and here I am being fearless trying to play eternal on ultra nightmare on switch 😂

[burnt moss]

I can’t handle handheld. I always play docked

[wet shard]

Handheld is better for me, but I mean if it fits you better docket I Don't have anything to complain about it

[wet shard]

xD good luck

[azure oriole]

I need it

Lol

[burnt moss]

So is docked no worse than other consoles then?

[azure oriole]

I have to discord accounts, I’m on my mobile and I am also on my pc, I’m gonna ping my pc account now because I can. @azure oriole

[wet shard]

The funny thing is I lost about 6 Lifes on Cacodemons in the campain xd in the first 3 Levels

[azure oriole]

yes

[last geode]

I can already tell you gonna from fearless to fearful

[azure oriole]

False, I fear nothing

[wet shard]

No not realy to be honest any Switch Game runs smoother on docket, I just play handheld more because its more comfortable for me

[azure oriole]

I agree but battlemode is also extremely fun

[burnt moss]

Do you use gyro?

[wet shard]

Hell no

[azure oriole]

Pffff no fuck that

[wet shard]

That would be even more pain

[azure oriole]

Exactly

[wet shard]

Can I say that there are still people crying over the Maurder?

Is he spelled like that? Idk I am just dumb xD

[patent stream]

Marauder

[wet shard]

Thanks for the Correction

[patent stream]

Also as for crying over him, well originally it was because people found him too hard.

Now it’s because his ai doesn’t properly allow him to be a viable fight

He had so much potential wasted imo

[random vault]

hi Bob

[patent stream]

Hi

[wet shard]

1. Yea but only on first time you fight him (at least for me it was like that)

2. I just say Spirit Marauder...

[patent stream]

We don’t speak of spirit marauder

[wet shard]

He was the real End Boss

Imagine Buffed Spirit Marauder... Bruh

Is it normal that I think that the bigger the Demons get the easyer they die?

Or am I just Crazy?

[quartz charm]

💀

[azure oriole]

Broken Spirited Marauder

😔

[wet shard]

They still haven't fixed him...

[azure oriole]

Ofc

[wet shard]

He Isn't hard Just bruh stop hugging me so much

[azure oriole]

Patching Fun Speedrunning Tech > Patching Game-Breaking Glitches

[wet shard]

True

Next they will nerf Meathook to just pull the demon to you not the other way around

[brittle quest]

That could be an interesting mechanic.

[azure oriole]

True

[wet shard]

Imagine like mode Swapping to that would be fun

[azure oriole]

It should be dual

[dim solar]

Stone cursed marauder when

[azure oriole]

Would be a good modswap, tho the dash refill glory kill perk yk

[brittle quest]

When you get a tyrant ttk under 4 seconds

So never

[wet shard]

Imagine Lock on Burst would just deal a normal Rocket damage...

Or Presicion Bolt couldnt shoot off weakpoints anymore... Bruh

[azure oriole]

Sticky Bomb

[wet shard]

Oh God, hell no

I find it funny that it Tag 1 and 2 were Demons introduced that have weakpoints to weapon mods people haven't used often... But uuuuuh where is a demon for Micro Missiles etc.?

I mean I use them sometimes but bruh...

[slow sigil]

it does though?

except against like tyrants and barons

[azure oriole]

Like what? They did FA for Stone Imps isn't that it? Kinda RD for Riot Soldiers, but you can shoot them in the back. "Precision Bolt for Blood Maykr 🤓"

[plucky yew]

Hello

[slow sigil]

you can easily ignore using FA and RD, and precision bolt was already widely used since it is better then MM

[azure forum]

And even then it is so OP that it still melts them

[azure oriole]

Precision Bolt was a joke

[jaunty vapor]

Luci already mentioned it, but to clarify Lock On does 875 contact 25 splash damage, instead of 600 splash 300 direct. So it has less splash damage, but the actual damage on a single target is the same.

[slow sigil]

Wdym? PB is like one of the top mods lol

[jaunty vapor]

I think zshane means they were joking about Precision Bolt as the example.

Although if I'm mistaken, this is a hilarious take

[random vault]

hi doomers

[azure oriole]

I was joking about PB not being a used mod. It is good

[azure oriole]

This

[full crystal]

i wish the archvile room in taras nabad master level wasn't so rng based on nightmare if you aren't using bfg or crucible. every time i beat it, i feel bad because i can never tell if i beat it because i did well or because of the rng of what the archies decided to spawn and where. its probably the only fight in the entire game that i dislike because of it

[jaunty vapor]

Do you know the route to take so that they dont spawn something?

[ruby solar]

Eternal’s getting another update? Or just some false rumor?

Just saw a vid on YT about it

[slow sigil]

Where ya heard that from

[opal galleon]

❔

[full crystal]

yea. the way i do it, i drop down below, charge up a d blade on the dread knights and kill them immediately

[jaunty vapor]

Gotcha. Yeah, other than your kills on the Tyrants, not much else to do. :T

[ruby solar]

Haven’t actually watched it, because the Wi-Fi here doesn’t allow YouTube, but it does allow Discord

[full crystal]

then kill the 2 tyrants but depending on whether the archies decide to spawn in all arachnatrons or all armored mancubus, the fight can be anywhere from not too bad to hard as fuck

even where they decide to spawn them can mean instant death from nowhere or easy mode because theyre in a traffic jam downstairs and never come up

even when i beat in on ultra nightmare, i can never shake the feeling that i only won because i got lucky on rng