doom-eternal

[flint flame]

They can still w key

[queen idol]

I'll get close when berserk is active

Well im console

[random vault]

same!!!!!

[flint flame]

No I mean the slayer can just follow you wherever you go

[queen idol]

Then be tactical

That's what i do if a slayer focus me.

[flint flame]

Define tactical

[queen idol]

I mean you can use the orb to teleport to get away etc

The dread knight travel fast though

[flint flame]

But you can still get sniped with pb or ballista

[queen idol]

Well yeah ofc.

[opal galleon]

DoomCraft Slayer

[queen idol]

Yes?

[flint flame]

REAL

[opal galleon]

[queen idol]

Uh?. Its a name i changed rather "MCboy Craft"

Gotten way too old

[ember void]

My honest reaction

[wheat vale]

Anyone finding Dark Lord phase 2 a bit of a snooze ?

[flint flame]

Holy shit slayer 9000

[ember void]

Whole fight is a snooze.

[wheat vale]

Can keep HP and Armour up but can't put in enough damage - the green thing just doesn't happen enough so I go round and round - then quit from boredom - any hints to get more greeen flashes would be good

[azure oriole]

The dark lord? So fun! My favorite fight! I play it all the time!!!

[flint flame]

Well that does limit the slayers’ options, but I imagine they can still meathook over to you via fling, and since the cool down for dread’s teleport is like 10s, you kinda are a sitting duck

[ember void]

There's no way to determine exactly when he'll flash. Just stay closely to him, but not too close obviously.

[queen idol]

That's why you have to make right decisions to survive. Along with a good teammate demon

[opal galleon]

Yeah just be like full stack then walk up next to him

[wheat vale]

Getting lots of yellow flashes but no green ones

[queen idol]

Well after all. Dread knight is really fun

[ember void]

So dash back twice and keep trying, brother.

[queen idol]

Not disappointed

[flint flame]

It’s fun when you stomp, it’s not fun when the zerk gets wasted because the slayer can play around it

[jaunty vapor]

If he's doing the shield charge against you, or any other attack you think you won't be able to dodge (but usually that's the big one), use energy shield rather than trying to dodge.

[wheat vale]

yeah - just want to get to the end without rage quit 😄

[jaunty vapor]

Also are you using hammer after a green flash + shotgun or whatever?

[queen idol]

True.

[opal galleon]

Get full stack, walk up next to him, pray for green, shoot then hammer then whatever combo you want - repeat until phase dead

[wheat vale]

yeah - SSG - hammer and 2xgrenades using turret at same time

[jaunty vapor]

Wanted to make sure. Some people didn't realize they needed hammer to stun for longer

[ember void]

That's a good combo, just keep doing that.

[jaunty vapor]

Imagine how long it took them XD

[wheat vale]

yeah - wouldn't have got past phase 1 without that

am on controller so the quickswitch doesn't work so well

[opal galleon]

[wheat vale]

gonna go and give it another go - wish me luck and thanks for advice

[random vault]

:acidLMFAO:

[tardy crescent]

I dont uderstand this emote

[random vault]

:emoji16:

[ember void]

You can still quick switch well on controller. If I can pb+rl at about the same speed as most can on pc, then you'll be able to quickswitch fine.

[tardy crescent]

Wow but what is point of it

[random vault]

bro is emoji16 at emoji16 :agony:

[ember void]

lol.

[opal galleon]

It's meant to depict cluelessness

As in, lack of critical information

[tardy crescent]

[random vault]

having to explain emojis
:aware:

:emoji16:

[flint flame]

“Nitron’t” lul

[random vault]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[tardy crescent]

Well

https://tenor.com/view/йокелемене-men-in-black-light-sunglasses-gif-15516530

[random vault]

HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAH

😐

[crimson ocean]

reaction

[random vault]

:reaction:

[crimson ocean]

lmao idiot

[random vault]

who? you?

[tardy crescent]

[crimson ocean]

matthew

[tardy crescent]

HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAH

😐

[random vault]

♻️

[tardy crescent]

Ok and ?

[crimson ocean]

#doom-eternal brainrot

[ember void]

Do not speak in eternal-chat, kids.

[opal galleon]

Y1 loop

[ember void]

It feels like everyday we get another taste of Y1.

[crimson ocean]

wtf is y1

[opal galleon]

Year 1

[flint flame]

DOOM ETERNAL COMBAT LOOP. CHAINSAW TO GET AMMO. FLAME BELCH TO GET ARMOR. GLORY KILL TO GET HEALTH.

[random vault]

:spoony:

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[tardy crescent]

Ok stop

[opal galleon]

"A year 1 is someone who comes in the server clueless and makes jokes that died back in March 2020, and is generally annoying"

Punished "Drip" Snake

[random vault]

then stop deleting shit :agony:

[crimson ocean]

ah so ♻️

[opal galleon]

Yes!

[ember void]

Yes. Exactly.

[random vault]

exactly

[tardy crescent]

And you stop posting that GIF 🤝

[random vault]

stop deleting it, then i will

[tardy crescent]

Ok

[random vault]

¨ok¨
:reaction:

[tardy crescent]

🤝

[crimson ocean]

“‘ok’
:reaction:”
:reaction:

[random vault]

no, i dont do hand shake
that spreads germs

[random vault]

https://tenor.com/view/maya-the-cat-gif-20702549

[crimson ocean]

no

[opal galleon]

[random vault]

extreme copium, Activate!!!

[crimson ocean]

what key or mouse button should i bind to rocket? wanna do rocket punch swapping and i have all default keybinds

i was thinking either m4 or m5

[ember void]

I have m5 as punch. Maybe ctrl for rocket.

If you do not like ctrl then just go for e or something.

[crimson ocean]

i use e for punch and idk if i’m comfortable not having constant access to my dash

[ember void]

Shift is the default dash key and it's a good key for dash. so keep it.

[azure oriole]

how do you get the dark cancer lord to attack more frequently ive been playing the last bit for an hour already, until his next green flash attack he already recovers hp from the dash

[brittle quest]

That's the neat part, you don't.

[random vault]

[ember void]

You mean his shield charge? That is confusing for some. Once he is near you, he will stop charging and try to hit you. Most people do not know this, as you usually do not see it happen. This can be easily avoided by dashing twice to the left or right each time he charges.

[pseudo thistle]

yooo thats like me or something

[azure oriole]

just going to reset mission or something because my sanity is draining

[azure oriole]

standing close will just make him do the swings without the green eyes

[pseudo thistle]

or by using chaingun shield

[pseudo thistle]

its a 50/50 chance whether he does green eyes or not

[ember void]

It does, but that is also the best way to get him to trigger the flash.

[pseudo thistle]

you have to react

[ember void]

Goddamn I typed that all for nothing

[azure oriole]

more like 10% he only does it every 5 mins and its mostly during the (super) heavy demons thing

[brittle quest]

Doesn't he heal through CGS?

[pseudo thistle]

youre just unlucky man

[pseudo thistle]

not last time i played that level
around a year ago

[ember void]

No.

[brittle quest]

Since I don't trust a FA user, I'll see for myself.

[pseudo thistle]

he doesnt

[random vault]

since i trust pyro, ok!

[ember void]

I will now manipulate you for my own good.

[random vault]

w-what :woah:

[brittle quest]

So turns out that Pyro was correct, but I've noticed another odd behaviour

He heals when you hit him without an opening.

[random vault]

seee, you gotta trust him

[brittle quest]

Muted

[pseudo thistle]

yeah, because no green eye

[random vault]

n-no wai

[dim solar]

and he heals like a 70% of his health bar if that happens

opposed to like 15% if he just lands a hit

[flint flame]

Fun and balanced boss

Very engaging 💯

[azure oriole]

standing close to him worked really well, he would first do a normal sword attack and then the green flash one, i beat him

[wheat vale]

ok - now am at the red glowing phase and am all out - bored and tired

not sure I can be bothered when the sun is shining outside.

[dim solar]

eww... sunlight

[flint flame]

Mabel the gamer vampire

[ember void]

sunlight?

[dim solar]

sunlight should be banned tbh

[random vault]

true true

[wheat vale]

Shame it ends this way because the icon boss fight was good and the TAG1 ending was really sweaty but engaging

[random vault]

i thought the tag 2 ending was ok

[wheat vale]

too flat

[random vault]

?

[wheat vale]

no levels - bars - teleporters

[random vault]

ok?

[flint flame]

It’s just a glorified marauder encounter

[wheat vale]

yeah - who heals when you shoot him

[random vault]

fr

[dim solar]

That "No" scene at the end of tag 2 was the best imo

[random vault]

so true!!!

[strange gale]

y2

[random vault]

y2 :suffering:

[dim solar]

oh wait, I forgot immora opening cutscene is a thing 😱

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcHbAdJeGE

[random vault]

😱

[dim solar]

that cutscene is amazing but honestly I think the build up for the dark lord was quite poor

[opal galleon]

"I'll still die on the hill that the avengers cutscene in TAG2 was made as a shallow "spectacle piece" for the people who don't care about themes in stories, or even "warranted payoffs""

BloodShot9001

[dim solar]

you meet the big baddy that happens to be an evil version of you and the ultimate battle between good and evil is at hand, and one level later, you fight him, he ded and game ends

[tardy crescent]

I think they should save dark lord for next doom

[dim solar]

exactly

the dark lord felt like a lot of wasted potential

they could have made an entire game around him, but instead they decide to give him like just a mission worth of relevance and kill him off right after

[tardy crescent]

And that boss fight and demons

[slow sigil]

Except that he isnt an evil version of you and just happen to look like you

[tardy crescent]

It was like here is some lore and fight him

[dim solar]

D-Didn't The Father say that he is you but from the dark realm?

or something around those lines

[tardy crescent]

But that level design was amazing

[slow sigil]

Yes but that lore is thrown out the windoe in tag2 and isnt relevant

[dim solar]

I forgot to read the codex pages on immora tbh

[tardy crescent]

Wait there is big plot hole because how tf doom guy looked same before that power up so they are like twins ore something

Ignore that reply

Or when he got that power up dark lord took look of doom guy

[queen idol]

And i got back my unmaykr

Like there's anything useful..

[strange gale]

🥱 baiting avengers fans with spectacle (nothing interesting or creative happens visuals-wise or story-wise)

[dim solar]

care to explain why it is irrelevant and whatnot?

[queen idol]

Guess im way far ready for ultra nightmare

fml.

I hate cultist base so much

[dim solar]

cultist base is the ultimate UN killer for many

[dusk field]

Thats actually my favorite level :]

[cursive knot]

My favorite level is Mars core.

[dim solar]

mine is either reclaimed earth or UAC atlantica

[ember void]

gotta agree.

[queen idol]

I tried nightmare difficulty so far, I had so much less space to move around and actually died here. Grr.

[azure oriole]

The scene is absolutely thematically relevant to the Argenta as a party in Doom. The Argenta took the worst of Hell's conquests. They almost fucking beat Hell. We see that they successfully kicked Hell's ass and conquered tons of outposts in Hell with a large, capable army and warriors who loved their people. And they lost, because they were betrayed by their own carelessness and deceit. That's a big fuckin deal.
The point of the scene is showing you that, millennia later, the Argenta heart was still beating. The codex says that the Argenta would rise once again, that their passion and fury and heart still existed even though they had been defeated by Hell. Valen is no longer the Betrayer, the Argenta are no longer the Deags' masses; they are an army born of sword and fire, as they always were.

I know I just posted a big nerdy copypasta but I personally think the cutscene is, narratively, really cool by finally paying off our whole thing with the Argenta and seeing their ruined world. Earth was reclaimed, but in that moment, the Argenta were as well.

• Me

TLDR the TAG2 PORTAL SCENE IS GOOD AND COOL AND FITS THE STORY PERFECTLY. STOP COMPARING IT TO AVENGERS THEY ARE NOTHING ALIKE

[queen idol]

I have so much learn to get there and not die

[opal galleon]

Why da ping doe

[azure oriole]

(i forgot to turn it off)

[cursive knot]

They should make a comic about the time between doom 2016 and eternal.

[azure oriole]

But yeah comparing it to Avengers and saying that's why it's good/bad is a red flag.

[dim solar]

suck on that tag 2 haters

[azure oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930146039745376259/973959512358805604/unknown.png

is arbalest better than destroyer blade?

Overall you'll use it more, but both are great.

neither of them seems that good

[slow sigil]

There literally is no reason anymore
I wished i made this shit up but no, there is no inlore reason for why they look identical facewise

[azure oriole]

that movement speed slowdown is yikes

[edgy fjord]

3/4 tag 2 levels are pretty good

[azure oriole]

Arbalest is fantastic. It makes short work of Cacodemons and Pain Elementals, and does lots of damage once you have the mastery deal.

[strange gale]

y1 🥱

[azure oriole]

i see

[dim solar]

[edgy fjord]

The Dark Lord is the greatest doom level ever made

[slow sigil]

Less then swaps so 🤷‍♀️

[azure oriole]

Yeah but swapping all the time is boring.

[slow sigil]

Dblade is stronger then arbalest, but arbalest is good against pos. PE's and normal PE's
Not good enough to where swapping weaponmods is worth it for normal singular PE's though

[dim solar]

Arbalest is pretty versatile, you can use it against pretty much everything

[strange gale]

yeah man, holding m2 and then pressing m1 is so much cooler

[dim solar]

with the exception of lost souls I guess

[azure oriole]

Yes.

[slow sigil]

It's stronger, not cooler

[azure oriole]

I do not enjoy spastically clicking 12 keys on my keyboard just to take care of one PE when I can just... pop it with two Arbalests and it dies.

Quickswapping is cool but in my experience trying to go into the entire game and every combat situation with it in mind just made it less fun.

[dim solar]

there's no better feeling that lighting up a tyrant with arbalest and frag grenades

it's like watching fireworks

[azure oriole]

[dim solar]

[random vault]

:insanity:

[signal zinc]

Why are you here then lol

That's the entire doom combat loop

[azure oriole]

No it isn't lmao.

[opal galleon]

[strange gale]

yeah, i guess that's a good point since you can actually commit to arba shots in vanilla content

[azure oriole]

hey guys i got a question, is it true that you can change game dificulty in the middle of a mission or I was just hallucinating. I saw a guy on yt who changed the game difficulty in the middle of one mission

[strange gale]

but even then, it's a slow ass projectile and making sure you actually land it takes a whole lot more mental effort than just going for a lil bit of hitscan

[ember void]

Hey, Mabel... are you okay?

[brittle quest]

What if it's embedded in your memory and you try to quickswap even if you end up overkilling everything

[pseudo thistle]

Well it’s not that slow dude

[azure oriole]

If you think quickswapping is the entire Doom combat loop then I'm convinced you do not know what you're talking about. The entire thing is beatable without it, and even then a lot of people have criticized quickswapping for being too OP and fucking up Eternal's balance.

[pseudo thistle]

slower than Hitscan obviously

[dim solar]

Eternal is a very flexible game when it comes to gameplay, there is more than just one combat loop

[random vault]

hes the lore master

[dim solar]

it's not only SSG quickswap PB SSG quickswap PB SSG quickswap PB SSG quickswap PB SSG quickswap PB until it is done

[azure oriole]

@opal galleon meaning I can just change difficulty to ultra nightmare when im at icon of sin mission, and get gold skin? or I reall need do WHOLE campaign from over with that difficulty.

[slow sigil]

only 3 good swaps out of an entire 24 or something

[random vault]

whole campaign

[azure oriole]

💀

[random vault]

he died

!!

[opal galleon]

UN isn't selectable from that

[azure oriole]

Ain't no way I can complete it on ultra nightmare

[brittle quest]

There are a lot more good swaps than 3.

They are redundant for base campaign, yes, but still.

[random vault]

skill issue
:acidLMFAO:

[azure oriole]

Nah jk jk I can beat the game on UN

[slow sigil]

pb sticky is ehhh, sure i count it
ssg bal isnt that great and is just a leadup into pb swaps

[dim solar]

micro-missiles into SSG from afar has to be one of the best swap combos out there

[random vault]

good for you

[brittle quest]

Those are just basic swaps.

[ember void]

Mabel please... there are people who care about you, y'know...

[opal galleon]

[brittle quest]

Are you okay?

[opal galleon]

Don't drink and text kids

[slow sigil]

i dont count punchswaps
LOBS is hmmm i dont think i necessarily count it as a swap , idk why

[strange gale]

a lot of people have criticized quickswapping for being too OP and fucking up Eternal's balance.
doom fans when somebody doesn't have to spend 30 seconds circlestrafing around one enemy in a flat room while spamming ssg (0 spread, practically infinite ammo)

[ornate reef]

A lot of those people must be purists.

[brittle quest]

Focusing on singular combos is too simple, individual combos for each demons allows more freedom and can sometimes also allow combos that would be shit when repeated.

[slow sigil]

you chain combos in eachother then

[strange gale]

spending 50 plasma on one pain is horrible for ballista economy, for example

[signal dirge]

@azure oriole I've made one before but it wasn't planned out at all, and I sped through a lot of the details, I'm taking a proper crack at this one.

[strange gale]

that doesn't ever become a problem in non-ml content however, since ammo conservation is practically irrelevant there, unless you do no chainsaw

[signal dirge]

I'm starting to get the PB+Rocket combo in my muscle memory, now

[azure oriole]

yeah but it looks very realistic and I think you spent more than 10+ hours to make it.

[signal dirge]

I spent like, 2

It helps that DOOM 2016 lets me view the Praetor Suit

[azure oriole]

[brittle quest]

Yes, and that allows combos that would be shit when repeated on their own much more purpose.

[slow sigil]

name a few

[craggy cave]

Helo

[brittle quest]

PB-Sticky-Bal to prime cybermancs for a BP GK, PB-Sticky-Bal in general against normal demons in which stickies can be pswapped to accomodate almost all heavy demons disregarding mancs, PB-Pswaps against mancs to take off weakpoints followed by sticky SSG, BATS in it's whole is impractical to repeat but is good when used in little amounts to provide fluidity.

[strange gale]

honestly, for cmancs i'd rather do pb-far ssg-bp

shells are far less valuable than plasma, and this is a bp loop

[tardy crescent]

[brittle quest]

I haven't really tried that because of the SSG being generally inconsistent. I would much rather prefer a bread and butter combo that is consistent all around.

[ember void]

they couldn't model a new face in time xd.

[strange gale]

ssg spread is super lenient there, you only have to miss 1 pellet for that to land within stagger health

cmanc 6000 health

pb 400 dmg + bp 4000 dmg + point blank ssg 1600 dmg = 6000

it's practically a bnb

[azure oriole]

I've been thinking to do the game on UN, any tips maybe?

[strange gale]

one ssg shot is 16 pellets so the spacing is super lenient

[strange gale]

same goes for pb-sb-bal-pb-sb-ssg on pains, if you add one more pb before the ssg shot then the spacing is even easier

[dim solar]

ok guys, I'm sorry, I lied, the combo is not micro-missiles into SSG, is micro-missiles into RL

https://youtu.be/8rmPgGI35EM?t=55

mayo says we should try it out

[ember void]

omg i love mayo!!!

[dim solar]

those pain elemental and cyber manc were taking hell of beating

[brittle quest]

MM into RL is the most brain dead variation of PB Rocket

[strange gale]

spacing for this is roughly 1 slayer dash

[dim solar]

also, rate my tyrant combo pls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDCi728TSQ8

and make sure to flag and leave a dislike

[strange gale]

from roughly 2 dashes away you can do pb-sb-pb-ssg-bp, highly consistent

[dim solar]

Y-Y-Yes, I just want to have fun!

[brittle quest]

10 second TTK with arbaspam, equipment and lob

[dim solar]

is 10 seconds good for a tyrant kill?

[brittle quest]

For console? Yes I suppose.

[dim solar]

Oh dang, I'm good and I didn't even know it

[brittle quest]

Never mind, it isn't. Mr Milk averages around 5 second without equipment. At thirty FPS.

[ember void]

It's okay, Mabel, you're good in my book!

[opal galleon]

[flint flame]

Tf? Lol?

[dim solar]

Oh dang, I suck, sorry to disappoint you everyone

[brittle quest]

Don't worry Mabel, you might be below average but you're still cool in my book, well not really but let us pretend it is that way

[dim solar]

F-F-Floir, you hurt my feelings

[crimson ocean]

lmao dumbass stutterer ahaa

[dim solar]

very cringe much bully

[crimson ocean]

ok but i do have to ask why you stutter in text form. i never understand why ppl do that when you aren’t limited to normal speaking restrictions like stuttering when you can just type

[ember void]

I-I-IDK

[dim solar]

I... never thought about that

[warped zenith]

horde mode made me love sticky bombs

[crimson ocean]

sticky bombs are p nice

[dim solar]

WS ML made me love full auto

[ember void]

I suppose it puts more voice into the messages if that makes sense.

[crimson ocean]

yeah but unlike emphasizing words with asterisks i don’t think anyone in a normal conversation would rather stutter than not

[hushed garden]

pretty sure it's meant to be ironic most of the time

[ember void]

Yeah, I think you're right. unless it's tmg.

[queen idol]

My pc is lmao awful. Cant even keep smooth the render of my praetor suit

[hushed garden]

yeah anyone typing like that is either being ironic or is a subby botto

[ember void]

well that is true lol.

[crimson ocean]

idk it just rubs me the wrong way every time someone stutters in text-based messaging

[hushed garden]

s-s-s-s-s-skill i-i-issue 🥺

[sharp cloud]

Hello guys

[crimson ocean]

like it’s fine but idk

[ember void]

I don't really have a problem with it but I suppose it is a bit weird. but meh. I just let people type how they want I guess.

[azure oriole]

uwu :3 hh-hi sowwy

[ember void]

no. out.

[azure oriole]

[opal galleon]

We know too much about the latter.

[ember void]

:aware:

[safe perch]

for the cant perfect perfection milestone can i still get the runes?

cuz it only says sentinal crystals and suit mods

[ember void]

Yes. You can get runes.

[safe perch]

cool

wait why is the mission select thing not showing up

i wanna go back and grab a few more extra lives before i do the final set of missions

the little screen thing has nothing on it

[swift quest]

Is the actual marauder fight buffed and when marauder appears in non-bossfight levels he is not

Either I got better or the actual boss fight was harder then his appearances in levels like Taras Nabad I think

[lapis saddle]

No the first marauder is just a normal marauder

[azure oriole]

Imagine still calling it a "boss"

[lapis saddle]

Yeah it’s more just a marauder tutorial

[azure oriole]

What's the best suit perk for can't perfect perfection? I'm leaning towards double grenades but prefer using the ice bomb.

[opal galleon]

Hot Swapper is considered the best for CPP.

[junior onyx]

hello eternal chat

goodbye eternal chat

[ember void]

hello immora real

goodbye immora real

[opal galleon]

Hello pyro
Goodbye pyro

[azure oriole]

Thanks, but I'm not very good at quick swapping weapons like a pro, I play on console for starters and panic easily too.

[opal galleon]

Console is not an excuse for not being able to swap, you can still swap effectively using wheel and now that you can set weapons to a specific d-pad bind its really not too difficult to manage.

Though if you don't want to it's fine, second best perk for CPP would probably be faster dashes.

[random vault]

Hi nutmilk
Goodbye nutmilk

[icy ice]

My controller has aged years ever since I started playing doom in March lol

You have to keep moving and button pressing all of the time

[wind barn]

That brings me to some good news for me: I'm finally building the skill needed to quick swap on console. It's sloppy by most standards, but I still feel proud of myself.

Take that, my physical disabilities

[icy ice]

Even if you can't do fast weapon swapping, holding it down for a second or two can allow you to get some thinking time which can be well needed.

[vale pebble]

I thought quick swapping on controller would be very difficult so I just used ssg and ballista swapping. I figured out how to quickswap on controller more efficently and I have been able to kill heavy demons a lot faster than before

[wind barn]

Same here

[azure oriole]

Appreciate your faith in me, I need to take your advice and stop making excuses and git gud, or in my case better.

[wind barn]

Again, my quick swapping is pretty sloppy, but I do it well enough

And by "well enough" I mean that it's faster than waiting for my weapon to recharge

[azure oriole]

I need to get my head around swapping weapons instead of waiting for them to recharge.

I've seen some insane looking videos that pro's do casually

[dry perch]

ur muscle memory needs time

[icy ice]

It is such a thrill when you do it right too lol

[azure oriole]

did you assign keys to specific guns or just gunwheel?

[vale pebble]

Be more specific please

[azure oriole]

about quickswapping, do you just use the gunwheel or did you assign guns to buttons on your controller

[opal galleon]

Weapon wheel or dpad binds

[vale pebble]

oh, if you just press the weapon wheel button once it will swap you to your previous weapon, I quick swapped like that with ssg and ballista

[heavy ocean]

I adjust the delay and have the wheel custom and you can pretty easily flick swap weapons. And I have a controller with the assignable underside buttons with jump and dash in my hands, so that frees up some thumb space.

[azure oriole]

i used to do the same, but now im practicing that with rocket launcher and pb by using weaponwheel

[vale pebble]

Nice, I quickswap with rocket, ballista, and pb

[azure oriole]

i have assigned the ssg to the B button (X on PS i think) so i can easily do 3 without using weapon wheel

[vale pebble]

Nice

Quickswapping with more than 2 weapons really changes everything lol

[azure oriole]

yes

[jaunty vapor]

Honestly people gotta remember that quick swapping doesn't just mean "fast as fuck pb-rockets", back in the day ssg - ballista was what everyone was using because even if your swaps are "slow", it's still faster than waiting for 2 ballista shots or 2 ssg shots

and obviously hot swapper will help even if you're using basic quick swaps like that

[heavy ocean]

Might not be lightning but I still like ballista ssg. Throw a pb inbetween....

[halcyon hemlock]

can someone please mention me

with the @ symbol

[icy ice]

@halcyon hemlock

[halcyon hemlock]

thanks

@icy ice party mode achivement done

1 million more to go

[icy ice]

Wait what? Lol

[azure oriole]

I got a back button for my dualshock last week and have only just got used to having the equipment launcher assigned to them. I don't use L3 or R3 at all so might have to assign them to weapons.

[heavy ocean]

Maybe, I'll get scolded but I feel the only time your really absolutely have to spam triples is 2 marauders. Other than that- sky time is the lord.

Master level tyrant in a box.

That helps too.

[frank ridge]

hello eternal chatters

[sturdy cliff]

Slay

[crimson ocean]

still thinking about that sgn master level with the double marauders on radioactive goop in a cramped hallway that was messed up

[ember void]

A lot of people complain about that part. You'll never have trouble there if you're decent at the game and know how to stay calm.

[crimson ocean]

nerd emoji

[ember void]

But I suppose people just aren't good at fighting marauders.

[crimson ocean]

nerd emoji (2)

[ember void]

You're making me cry.

[crimson ocean]

but fr for some reason pbolt just wouldn’t stagger them? and then they would be rlly aggressive but then just not swing while i take dot from goop

other times i’d shoot the dog and then mf would attack me right in the middle of reloading/switching

[sturdy cliff]

Slay

[dim solar]

that part isn't that bad really, if they get too close and you're against a wall, use chaingun shield to push them away and get more space to move, after that use explosives while jumping a lot and they'll be done for in no time

[heavy ocean]

And tbh you can just ssg/ballista double them too. Its not fast and stylish but it gets the job done. Just pick on one at a time.

[dim solar]

oh yeah and use the blood fueled rune

[sturdy cliff]

Lots of doom

Yeah

[ember void]

Yeah

[dim solar]

Yeah!

[sacred dirge]

🔥

[azure oriole]

I used to think that was terrible until I realized there was a part in the back you could sit on going between that and the rad part

[jaunty vapor]

Once again I'll remind people you can also save the Onslaught from the previous fight for the Double Marauders as well. Basically guarantees you gib one of them

[queen idol]

Archie: "spawn 2 marauders with totem of boost out of nowhere"

Me: I smell extra lives....

Lol.

I'm bored

[crimson ocean]

how do you do the mars base encounter with the marauders and the respawning heavy demons

i managed to kill the firts marauder before the second spawned but i just kept getting trapped by heavy demon collision boxes

and the way the geometry is set up makes it so they just won't do their attack even when they run up super fast and then he'll do it while i'm reloading or switching because there are fucking snakes and dread knights coming for me

and of course i can't bfg them because id software

[queen idol]

:suffering:

[dim solar]

make sure to kill the hell knights first, they don't respawn, and after that just try to lure the marauder to the elevated parts of the arena using the jump pads

[crimson ocean]

oh didn't know that part abt the dread knights. should i just bfg to clear them?

[dim solar]

Ehhh, using BFG there seems like kind of a waste but if you must, got for it, I'd say use lock-on burst, a single one is enough to take a hell knight out

[crimson ocean]

also is that fight towards the end?

feels like it would be the last one considering its difficulty

[dim solar]

Hm...

nah, it's not really near the end, there a lot more arenas you have to go through after that one if I remember correctly

[crimson ocean]

poop

[opal galleon]

It's like in the middle

[dim solar]

yeah, something like that, it's pretty early on in the level anyways

[crimson ocean]

also am i missing something when fighting marauders? even when i camp at what i assume to be "mid range" sometimes he'll just hold up his shield and dash around and not do anything

also what swap is optimal for punishing the stagger?

[dim solar]

yeah sometimes marauders are trolls and they run into your face and dont do anything, when you're going to engage one, try to do it when there arent any soldiers or mecha-zombies behind him because they can shoot the marauder and mess up his AI, which causes him to dash away lol

[crimson ocean]

i feel like marauder def could've been designed better

in a vacuum they're cool but when they interact with complex arenas or infighting monsters they can be a pain

[dim solar]

sometimes they do funny things but I think they're mostly alright as long as they aren't possessed or buffed

[crimson ocean]

spirited marauder

[dim solar]

yeah, fuck that dude

[crimson ocean]

ok so what are the actual rules for swearing bc i can say "fuck" and be fine

[dim solar]

and as to what to actually hit him with, I like stunning him with ballista or ssg and then bashing his face in with chaingun shield and frags

[crimson ocean]

i usually stagger with pb

[dim solar]

that way you don't have to worry if there are other heavies around supporting him

[crimson ocean]

oh wait yeah can you just bully him after stunning him

[azure oriole]

What does onslaught do

[jaunty vapor]

It multiples damage and damage cap by 4x

[azure oriole]

Oh nice

[jaunty vapor]

It's the "quad damage" purple power up.

[dim solar]

yeah and if you have two frags and use shield bashes sometimes he dies in single cycle and if he doesnt he takes enough damage that another SSG or ballista shot will take him out

[crimson ocean]

is de icon related to d2 icon

icon of sin, i mean

[dim solar]

dunno, never played OG doom

[azure oriole]

Well if you linked the timelines maybe, but I don't think there's any official answer for that

[opal galleon]

Common swear language is allowed thought words viewed as more derogatory, such as the B word, will be censored. Slurs obviously are banned too.

[flint flame]

They literally took a bug (zombies shooting the marauder and raising his shield and thus summoning the dog) and made it a feature

[heavy ocean]

I move, dash, and grapple a lot and the most consistent thing I've found is them just straight up running at you. Not like the dark lord where you can camp a zone.

[odd fulcrum]

same here

[mossy nova]

how

[crimson ocean]

after literally 45 minutes of attempts i did it
wasn't even on nightmare

[wheat vale]

Holy hell. Just beat Dark Lord after 2-3 hours of total WTF? Pretty tough for a gen x casual player.

[raw olive]

now do it on un

[wheat vale]

F that. I have a marriage and family life!

[crimson ocean]

cap

[raw olive]

don’t need a life for un👍

because most un players don’t have one anyways

[crimson ocean]

is there a un run where it's base campaign plus the two dlcs in a row

[raw olive]

probably

[crimson ocean]

ig that could be self-imposed

[wheat vale]

That would be hectic

[spare monolith]

I have a question

[crimson ocean]

no questions allowed!

[wheat vale]

Behave ! 🙈

[spare monolith]

Doom ethernal is my very 1st Doom game an I just beat it last night but I was wondering if I started a whole new game would It still keep all my cheat codes I collected?

Cause I wanna do it again on Ultra Nightmare with a few of them

[crimson ocean]

no, they're collected over the course of the save file, and cheat codes are disabled on ultra nightmare

[wheat vale]

You can replay levels on save slot

[crimson ocean]

yeah but you can't switch over to ultra nightmare mid-save

[flint flame]

No

[spare monolith]

Dang it

[wheat vale]

Or create a new blank one for UN

[flint flame]

Also you can not use cheats on ultra nightmare, that beats the point

[spare monolith]

They game won't allow it?

[crimson ocean]

correct

[spare monolith]

Welp I'm screwed

[wheat vale]

Gotta start fresh for UN - that’s the challenge

[spare monolith]

I really want that gold skin

[azure oriole]

Also that first pinky you encounter in Doom Hunter Base is just stupid easy to kill if you take the jumppad and snipe the pinky with the ice bomb then blast the tail with the SSG

[flint flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700402151389921343/751169416343060520/video0_3.mp4

[azure oriole]

also don't die lmao

[wheat vale]

Still finding N a total N - it’s an investment if you want it. I don’t have the time to git gud to that level.

[flint flame]

So true doomer !

[flint flame]

Also what

[spare monolith]

Another thing is there's no option to quit an save in the menu while doing the Dlc?

[azure oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLk9Sxlu7Kk&t=637s (also revenant f tier)

[flint flame]

It should be the same as campaign

[spare monolith]

I was told there wasn't but I'll look

[flint flame]

Haven’t touched the game in a while, could be wrong on that

[azure oriole]

Does anyone agree that sticky bombs are better than the explosive shot

[opal galleon]

[flint flame]

Objectively they’re better

[azure oriole]

specially master

[flint flame]

Cuz you don’t die from your own shot

[azure oriole]

yeah

Plus they one shot weak points

also caco insta stagger

[ember void]

omg decino 😍

[spare monolith]

I posted in the screenshot tab

[flint flame]

What

I’m not sure what I’m looking at

[azure oriole]

(Doom)

[crimson ocean]

de does weird stuff when you screenshot with ctrl alt prtsc. in normal gameplay it'll just screenshot the pause screen. i would assume what happened here is that doing that caused it to only screencap the background

[severe snow]

anybody knows some less abstract doom wads? i really dont like the abstract designs on doom 1 and 2

[crimson ocean]

a what

[severe snow]

and tnt and plutonia and most other wads

[crimson ocean]

what's a wads

[flint flame]

#classic-doom-maps-mods

[crimson ocean]

how do i make smoky

[flint flame]

The file type that classic doom uses for its level mods

[dry perch]

doom.fart

[flint flame]

So true !

[dry perch]

REAL!!!

[spare monolith]

[crimson ocean]

why can’t i save and quit my level progress

if i save and quit to desktop in the middle of a master level i have to redo the whole thing

[earnest linden]

hey guys,i am new in this server,i have a little question about doom eternal,would there be a way for me to have the old gods (somehow) for free, as I just finished doom, I already have some skins, several dolls, Un maykr, and all the rest, and I also have the gamepass, but that's it, all that's left for me to replay the quests finding new stuff or playing battlemode so I can have it for free, would there be an event or something?

[opal galleon]

hacker

[crimson ocean]

piracy
no you have to pay for it

wait i recognize your name did i get baited

[earnest linden]

ok,but,what could i do after i had completed a good part of the game besides getting sick of battlemode?

[crimson ocean]

buy the dlc
try higher difficulties
100% the game
master levels
replay the game
stop trolling

[ivory ore]

aside from master levels and modded content (if on PC), absolutely nothing

Or, do really stupid challenges

[earnest linden]

How do you know my name?

[dry perch]

FULL AUTO ONLY NO STICKY😳

[crimson ocean]

misremembered ig

[dry perch]

fr FA so good

[ivory ore]

how you gonna get past the first room then dingaling

[dry perch]

by passing it duh

[heavy ocean]

I feel like you just get lucky, tbh. I've had a few nightmare runs with all my extra lives and I feel like thats harder than UN the first 3 levels without the extra armor. That and it just gets in your head too.

No un tho

[dry perch]

me when i beat UN 😳

[earnest linden]

but like, why eternal has only 13 stages, I know most of them are quite long but like, the old ones didn't have such long stages and the game had more than 32 (including secret ones)

[ivory ore]

i have no idea what you're trying to get at with that message

[dry perch]

i think 32 is too much since doom eternal levels are damm long as hell (see what i did there now laugh)

[crimson ocean]

because de has hand-crafted levels that are very specific with assets that are not really reusable, also as to not pad out the game since the levels are very long

[ivory ore]

why are there 13 long stages, instead of 32 short stages? Huh?

[crimson ocean]

because classic doom was bad 😼

[dry perch]

that would be annoying going to the portal 32 times

[crimson ocean]

i wish there was a classic mode difficulty for the base campaign

[earnest linden]

damn if I get it right

[ivory ore]

i mean.... they're the same thing. Classic mode is obtaining weapons one at a time, base campaign is exactly that, just stretched across a dozen levels

[crimson ocean]

nah i mean like you reset all your weapons every level

[dry perch]

what if full auto run mode only😳

[flint flame]

Goes to a doom eternal official server that has id and bethesda people
asks how to pirate the game

[ivory ore]

so you gonna tell me or...?

[dry perch]

what a chad

[flint flame]

The secret ingredient is crime

[crimson ocean]

based yeah

[earnest linden]

[dry perch]

its like going to a nintendo office and saying where can i pirate ur games

[earnest linden]

but you can do it on xbox

[strange gale]

ultimate doom speedrun wr is under 20 minutes btw

[ivory ore]

@dry perch you gonna make us punch our way out of the first room since technically we cant use the default shotgun, or just /kill ai our way out

[dry perch]

/idnoclip

[crimson ocean]

punching does no damage

[strange gale]

it does 1 damage

[opal galleon]

It does 1

[flint flame]

Play battlemode. Forever. For eternity

[ivory ore]

i have 8 minutes of footage that says otherwise

[strange gale]

600 punches to get out of the intro room

[crimson ocean]

why can’t i save and quit my level progress? if i save and quit to desktop in the middle of a master level i have to redo the whole thing

[dry perch]

FULL AUTO

[ivory ore]

https://tenor.com/view/lhp-satan-dance-cult-lucifer-gif-17172667

join the gUNless cult

[azure oriole]

Like 9 long stages and 4 short ones

[earnest linden]

[dry perch]

battlemode shouldve been a slayer vs slayer

[azure oriole]

Doom Live Action???

[strange gale]

there's a certain technical reason behind it, but long story short: it's impossible for modders or the devs themselves to put in a mid-ml saving feature at this point

[flint flame]

You will learn to enjoy it

[dry perch]

yo what if battlemode was demon vs demon😳

[azure oriole]

Switch Battlemode

[crimson ocean]

what console commands do i use to skip a level if i lose progress

[dry perch]

OR BATTLEMODE WHERE FULL AUTO VS FULL AUTO

[earnest linden]

?

[flint flame]

No idea what you’re talking about but pop off

[dry perch]

he is a tasty soda ngl

[earnest linden]

ok

[crimson ocean]

flushed emoji

[dry perch]

[azure oriole]

Seems legit

[dry perch]

cursed marauder

[azure oriole]

Marauder is my favorite xemkn

[flint flame]

Fun to play as, not to fight

[crimson ocean]

ok so this has been on my mind recently
how do we recognize the marauder emojis in this server as feminine, even if they aren’t doing any stereotypically feminine things like blushing

[dry perch]

marauder is the funniest demon

[flint flame]

Anime trope

[crimson ocean]

like what part of the emojis are triggering that part of our brain that thinks “woman”

[earnest linden]

just one more thing, what do i do to get the zombie slayer skin

[dry perch]

marauder are traps

[azure oriole]

I like fighting them, unless its Ultra Violent or harder with more enemies

[crimson ocean]

isn’t that a slur

[dry perch]

sign in the slayers club

[dry perch]

OH SHIT

[crimson ocean]

bruh

[azure oriole]

What

[earnest linden]

oh i do this?

[earnest linden]

how i do this?*

[azure oriole]

Make acc

[dry perch]

sign in lmao gg ez

[earnest linden]

on which website?bethesda?

[dry perch]

just type slayers club in goofle

google

[azure oriole]

Google these questions

[queen idol]

Marauder & dreadknight in team. If they're good, oh boy

[dry perch]

heh i know oof

[idle cargo]

Mancubus, Doom Hunter and Whiplash are my favs

[queen idol]

As a dreadknight main, my teammate marauder were best duo.

We won 3 - 0

[dry perch]

chadcubus.chad hunter,and chadlash*

[dry perch]

too op pls fix

[crimson ocean]

wait you can play as whiplash in battlemode?

[queen idol]

No lol

[dry perch]

hes talking about his fav demons

[earnest linden]

man,I'm clicking login and it's not going, I click and click and nothing happens.

[dry perch]

what

[heavy ocean]

As a slayer, a good marauder/dreadnight duo is flipping murder.

Marauders are tough if they keep the pressure up cos they can literally stay on top of you and not let you take time to pop spawned demons around the map.

Have to land a ballista right off to get em thinking otherwise you're f'd.

[dry perch]

i like pressuring slayers they panik

[azure oriole]

Me bet the game in hard mode

[dry perch]

huh

[queen idol]

Same

[queen idol]

Indeed, I had good games as dreadknight

[flint flame]

It’s an okay combo, not the best but okay

[mossy nova]

how did vega survive without its core ?

[flint flame]

Just don’t do mar manc :misery:

[flint flame]

Good job 👍

[heavy ocean]

I like a good pressure player. Nothing a good ballista/bp/ssg/nade can't handle 😉

[flint flame]

Nades are pretty nasty

[azure oriole]

Two DOOTs >

[flint flame]

Illegal outside of private matches, also rev is second worst demon lel

You whif two barrages, what’s the game plan then

[azure oriole]

I've never done private b4, so that's pretty cool you can play as tge same demon

Probably bc i play on Switxh

[azure oriole]

What would you consider worst. Mancubus?

[flint flame]

It used to be before update 6.66 you can double up on a demon, now they enforced the single demons

[azure oriole]

Ah alright

[flint flame]

Archie, manc is second best

[mossy nova]

cacodemons are taco

[azure oriole]

😱

[azure oriole]

Marauder best?

[mossy nova]

yes

but 10 maruaders no

[flint flame]

No lol

[azure oriole]

1v10

[flint flame]

As much as I love marauder, a good pain is just much more punishing

[azure oriole]

Oh really?

[flint flame]

Yeah, you can ask in #battlemode , it’s widely agreed upon

[azure oriole]

PE is my second favorite demon

I started doing BM like two days ago, its fun, but kinda a pain when it takes like 3 minutes to grt a match

So I dont play it much

[agile skiff]

how do i beat nightmare?

[flint flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700402151389921343/751169416343060520/video0_3.mp4

[agile skiff]

idk what skills i neeed to know

[flint flame]

Mfw I’ve, no joke, queued for 30 mins with no matches

[azure oriole]

Damnn

[flint flame]

Pc (not Xbox game pass) btw

[flint flame]

Enemy prioritization, movement, always flame belch or meathook, don’t rely too heavily on super weapons, etc.

[flint flame]

Super shotgun is not a super weapon btw, you will probably be using that a bit

[lapis saddle]

Yeah the SSG is a beast at close range

[heavy ocean]

Get ballista'ed and rocketed to death kek

[flint flame]

Pretty much

Or just commit die using rocket self damage

[heavy ocean]

I will say a good flyer with an aggressive ground guy is tough. If you play passive and can hide in tight maps you can do good.

[flint flame]

Pain manc

Rev when it works is fun, but again, when it works

Like I’ve gotten really fast deletes with haz and a unstable trigger boosted barrage

[dry perch]

hehe shield go brrrrrr

[flint flame]

Nades doe

[dry perch]

nades😳

[azure oriole]

How do you get the in air achivements in Battlemode (Slayer & Revenant)

[dry perch]

by getting air

[azure oriole]

makes sense

[heavy ocean]

If you even have 1 passive player you can stack nades. So good

[crimson ocean]

finally got master mars core, and with no ammo at the end at that

must've taken over an hour and a half

[burnt moss]

Send nades

[crimson ocean]

i was gonna type the key i use for nades but doom controlling is so muscle-memory heavy that i literally forgot what key it is

[flint flame]

Round beginning as rev, just hold the jetpack button (gets you around 4 seconds) and the achivement is cumulative over your playtime

[flint flame]

It annihilates players that try to push as it’s practically unnoticeable until it’s too late

[azure oriole]

Ohhh, it's not one sitting, that's good to hear, thank you.

[flint flame]

Forgot the damage numbers, but it’s pretty good

[heavy ocean]

Well its great too if one player is pushing and you lure them in and nade/bp/ssg them then run away and restock then bring the pain

[flint flame]

In my two years of playing, I’ve probably only blood punched a guy that’s not afk maybe once

[crimson ocean]

restarting the game without air control equipped is just

[flint flame]

The battlemode experience

[crimson ocean]

forgot how much nightmare doesn't fuck around

[heavy ocean]

I blood punch rushers all the time, just skirt around em and give em a nade/shotty/bp hello

And I think its 200 a nade.

[flint flame]

I never find myself glory killing tbh except in a pinch

[wind barn]

I finally beat TAG1 on nightmare

Beat TAG2 about a month ago

And all I've gotta say is

Wow. Never again.

[heavy ocean]

I do it just to charge bp

Just pop a fodder demon with 2 plasma rounds and splat.

[wind barn]

this dlc has too many spirits

[mossy nova]

i just need another 13 dollars to buy the first dlc

there both 13 dollars

[wind barn]

I warn you: TAG1 is brutal

However IMO it has the best aestetics of both dlc

[heavy ocean]

Agreed

[wind barn]

I'd even say they're even better than the base game, if Taras Nabad and Mars Core weren't beautiful to look at

[heavy ocean]

TAG2 on nightmare was cake compare to TAG1

[wind barn]

Agreed

Not to say TAG2 was easy.

[heavy ocean]

TAG1 on Ultra was stupid

[wind barn]

I just didn't get the sentinel armor prompt three times in TAG2

[heavy ocean]

Oh man. 😆 the first time I fought samur. So many Sentinel armors

I mean, I get it now but sheesh....

[wind barn]

Those three times were from the Samur fight. Exclusively

[heavy ocean]

Ok im not the only one. That made me feel like shit at the game

[burnt moss]

Double marauder on Immora just took ALL my extra lives

[ivory ore]

To be fair the devs twisted some stuff in samurs fight didn’t they?

[wind barn]

Did you know the armor resets on each phase? So you have to die an extra buncha times to get sentinel armor against the spirits

[flint flame]

Me with dark lord

[wind barn]

Okay here's the thing:

[heavy ocean]

Yeah- it went to that checkpoint phase. So part 2 boss, not all the way back.

[wind barn]

At a point you realize that the Dark Lord fight is like the Gladiator kicked up to an eleven.
Samur is such a deep level of hell that it noclipped into heaven

[dim solar]

I replayed both DLCs yesterday after playing all master levels and tbh both of them were pretty good, the difficulty feels about the same on both

[heavy ocean]

I played through a week ago and it did feel a little different. Couldn't tell if horde and battle mode just made me quicker or they made some stuff less cheap.

[dim solar]

the only major difference is that tag2 feels more entertaining because of that hammer gameplay

[zinc cobalt]

Dark lord is like gladiator? Wut. His attack speed is slower and his animations are longer

[heavy ocean]

Anyone know when this BM season ends?

[wind barn]

Me after spending two hours on a single slayer gate in the Holt only to be rewarded with Break Blast

[crimson ocean]

break blast is baller

[zinc cobalt]

If you have the correct techs, you don’t need speed to beat the dark lord. Whereas gladiator does require quick reactions

[heavy ocean]

Dude if I did TAG1 UN I wouldn't even go for the gates...

[zinc cobalt]

Holt gate is easy tho

[crimson ocean]

is that the one with the spirited marauder

[zinc cobalt]

Like, the only difficult things in that gate are double arch and the delayed double blood Maykr

[heavy ocean]

And the spirit marauder.

[zinc cobalt]

The pos marauder is actually the easiest part

[heavy ocean]

That thing on UN can just go glitch FU and ruin you

[crimson ocean]

how could you forgot the spirit marauder dude that part is the literal worst part

[wind barn]

That's like 70% of it tho

[heavy ocean]

Just turbo run into your grill and hacker shotgun you to death.

[zinc cobalt]

That’s why it’s easy lol. The pos marauder is beatable with just one tech, meathook. Not even meathook jumps or anything, just straight line meathook completely trivialises pos marauder

[crimson ocean]

you can't uh
you can't meathook marauders

[zinc cobalt]

No you meathook the imps

The map is so big the marauder never catches you

[heavy ocean]

I will say it doesn't track you in the air

Or marauders have trouble following you airborne

You hit the ground and turbo douche is 1" from your grill.

[zinc cobalt]

It just takes time because you have to wait for pos marauder to get unstuck from terrain cos it’s so buggy

[crimson ocean]

i refuse to believe you're not trolling when you say that the spirit marauder is the easiest part of the holt gate

[zinc cobalt]

I’m not. I’m seriously not. He’s the easiest part of the whole gate

[wind barn]

I like how y'all are trampling my sense of accomplishment by staying the holt gate is easy

[zinc cobalt]

Because they nerfed it and removed infinite carcass respawn

[crimson ocean]

memiya is the only mf doing this

[heavy ocean]

I think one tapping the makyr's is the easy part.

[zinc cobalt]

With carcass he’s difficult. Without carcass he’s just running around like a headless chicken

[crimson ocean]

"tbh the easiest part of master mars core is the delayed double marauder encounter with respawning whiplashes frfr"

[zinc cobalt]

Yeah after some practice i managed to get the maykr spawn points down and just instant headshotted them at spawn

[heavy ocean]

And the master level bfg tutorial is cake.

[zinc cobalt]

Double arch I use shield bash for first and ice bomb lock on for second

[crimson ocean]

i just crucible archies. only thing i ever use the sword on

[zinc cobalt]

Oh yeah I found mars core ml to be difficult but doable

SGN was difficult because fog

[crimson ocean]

wait archies not marauders

[heavy ocean]

The two tyrants and a doom hunter with no vertical is tough

[crimson ocean]

you can't crucible a marauder

[zinc cobalt]

Ah I use shield bash for that

Shield bash the first tyrant, double blood punch doom hunter, then ice bomb and dps down the second tyrant

[heavy ocean]

So many new demons on tonight. Mwuahahahahahaha

[crimson ocean]

when i see a tyrant i just cgs and spawn all of my auxilleries

[zinc cobalt]

I found the mars core bfg platform to be pretty hard tho

[heavy ocean]

Good ol dump and run

[dim solar]

imo The Holt is the worst level in the whole TAG saga; meh soundtrack, too many spirits and tedious arenas and >Samur

[zinc cobalt]

Took me quite a lot of tries

[crimson ocean]

Samur

[zinc cobalt]

I have to agree. Holt arenas were meh. Samur is the only thing good in that level

[heavy ocean]

Why do people run away from my force of nature skin more than my golden bounty lord. Smh

[dim solar]

I'd argue Samur is the worst part of that fucking level lmao

[heavy ocean]

So tough. But in a good Doom way. Its all doable. It just makes you think and resist your strats

[crimson ocean]

samur difficulty was fine but they just made it so LONG

[dim solar]

I dunno, I feel samur is a really messy boss that can randomly go wrong at many points without much you can do about it, specially the last 2 phases

[ivory ore]

Also love how they never fixed the dread knight just standing there till you get close

[crimson ocean]

STANDING HERE

[ivory ore]

No

[dim solar]

No, stop right there 😂

[crimson ocean]

ok

[zinc cobalt]

Yeah it is pretty random sometimes, because there are so many elements to it that insta kill you

[burnt moss]

Hey what’s more difficult, MLs or TAG? Like, does beating TAG mean you’re ready for MLs?

[crimson ocean]

i would say mls are way harder than tag

but you can rlly do them in either order

[dim solar]

MLs all the way

[crimson ocean]

if tag is an extension of the base campaign, mls are an extension of literal hell

one of them took me over 1 hour to beat (potential skissue but idk)

[burnt moss]

So what kind of player is the ML for? Someone who does UN all the time, or like an average player?

[dim solar]

MLs are like x2 harder than TAG, I'd say TAG is kind of an introduction to MLs difficulty

[crimson ocean]

well you can select from any difficulty with mls

[burnt moss]

Immora UV just took me an hour. Is that bad?

[crimson ocean]

they're just for when you think you're up to the challenge ig

[heavy ocean]

I like ML's just cos they're good practice

Even if I suck at em

[crimson ocean]

i wouldn't try to put a value to your skill too hard. if you think you're ready for mls, do one

[burnt moss]

Well I’ve done them HMP but I hadn’t even done campaign on NM on that point so I’m wondering how to know when I’m ready.

[heavy ocean]

Arcade mode is abusive UV+

[crimson ocean]

like i said, you can do an ml on any difficulty

[ivory ore]

An ml

[burnt moss]

I just remembered MLs can’t save. Fuck that.

[azure forum]

You can, but they still are harder than the rest of the in game content. World Spear and Taras nabad more specifically

[crimson ocean]

ofcofc

[wind barn]

I've gotten really good at Classic Mode master levels. It's be cool if the whole game has a classic mode for the base levels

[crimson ocean]

i'm just saying that what difficulty you beat the game on doesn't matter for if you're ready to play mls

if you did it on uv, then do an ml on uv

[wanton atlas]

Well, aside from ARC Complex of course, heh.

[burnt moss]

I actually like TAG for the fact I don’t have to pick up anything.

[azure forum]

Cultists base and Arc complex are a joke. Super Gore Nest and Mars core are great master levels and in my opinion they are what a master level should be like. World Spear and Taras nabad are really tough

[crimson ocean]

mars core wooped my ass so hard

[crimson ocean]

wait are there mls for dlc

[azure forum]

Only 1. World Spear

[burnt moss]

Well I did the MLs on HMP after doing campaign on UV. I really don’t think they’re equal.

[crimson ocean]

i rlly think you're being way too worried abt this. jump into an ml on your preferred difficulty and if it seems just way too hard then maybe wait a while

[burnt moss]

Maybe after I beat the dark lord on UV sometime this weekend

Really dreading that.

[crimson ocean]

i heard dl was a pain in the ass but i haven't bought tag 2 yet

[dawn stag]

it's not

[flint flame]

It’s sleeper

[burnt moss]

Y’all saying he’s easy???

[dawn stag]

too easy

even on UN

[azure forum]

Dark lord is much easier than all other boses in the game

[burnt moss]

Ridiculous

[wanton atlas]

He is.
He’s only a challenge if you’re reckless and refuse to use the Hammer.

[flint flame]

Subtle flex 😂😂

[dawn stag]

force of nature requires like 28 wins as the slayer

golden bounty lord is just completing horde mode on nightmare, you have like 38 extra lives max

battlemode is like nightmare

[azure forum]

Not worth it. Do you know what skin is actually worth it? Green chrome

[opal galleon]

[vale pebble]

I replay the boss fight because it is fun

[flint flame]

Minimum and in a row

[dawn stag]

yes

[wanton atlas]

Sadly I think it’ll be the only one.

[opal galleon]

[burnt moss]

Saying he’s hard or easy, you have to compare to the rest of gameplay. You get double punished in that fight because he gets his health back.

[dawn stag]

don't attack him when he does his fake outs

[azure forum]

Some of them are. The dark lord... Definitely not "fun". More of a "boring" I'd say

[vale pebble]

I just like to bully him

[wind barn]

It's not as hard as Samur, but it's a decent challenge

[dawn stag]

hes the easiest boss

[burnt moss]

I’ll agree with that

[azure forum]

TAG2 is all about using and overusing the hammer. That's it

[dawn stag]

hammer is too good

[frank ridge]

hello doom

[vale pebble]

Hello!

[frank ridge]

hi lev

[flint flame]

Hello dom

[azure forum]

It's to have fun. Don't expect a challenge like TAG1 because it is not but it is fun to hammer crap around

[burnt moss]

No way

[dawn stag]

yes

[opal galleon]

Saber you are so cool

[azure forum]

Hey @dim solar did you end up beating WS?

[dawn stag]

just arbalest him when he does the traffic light attack, then spam your grenades and the mobile turret to get him down to about half health

also use the sentinel hammer

[wanton atlas]

It’s just my personal opinion with the fight.
I found him underwhelmingly easy. He’s still a fun Boss though, to an extent. I think iD nailed the presentation at least.

[flint flame]

I exude cool-ness

[azure forum]

The cutscenes are outstanding. I agree

[flint flame]

Back in high school they called me the fridge.

[dim solar]

nah dude, last time I tried I got a glitch in the pinky cave after the escalation encounter zone and couldn't finish it

50 minutes of my life wasted there

[azure forum]

I might give it a shot tomorrow night

I've been playing 2016 too much lately

[dim solar]

lol you should stream some 2016 too

[opal galleon]

It flows out of you

[dim solar]

it's always nice to go back to the roots

[azure oriole]

I like Davoth's fight.

[azure forum]

I will probably. I want to beat it in UN for sure

[azure oriole]

SSS: Spider Mastermind, Icon of Sin, Davoth
S: Maledict, Cyberdemon, Gladiator
A: Sabaoth, Khan Maykr, Guardian
B: Hell Guards, Seraphim, Mightiest Warrior
C: Vagary, Hell Hunters, Trial of Maligog

[wind barn]

I'd say he's more "tedious" than anything. I'll dmit that when a boss or encounter throws me for a loop a panic a little and throw a blood punch. The dark lord, meanwhile.... there was not much punching to be had

[dim solar]

don't you find it a little annoying that you have to wait until mission 6 to get the air control rune tho? 😂

[mossy nova]

balista boosting with air control is very fun

[azure forum]

I do, but the weapons are so OP anyways that it is not that bad

I think the first level is the worst thing ever. Those imps are super snipers

[wind barn]

I go for Equipment Fiend first, then Air Control

Because flaming hook kills count towards recharging the flame belch, apparently.

[crimson ocean]

really? wack

[dim solar]

mission 1 is kinda tough yeah, but the worst part is that first gore nest in mission 2, man that shit has to be hands down the hardest fight in any doom game

[frank ridge]

the first level sucks cause you have to kill everything with a goddamn pistol

the pistol in 2016 is the worst gun ever

[azure forum]

That first battle after the elevatorI meant. You basically don't have anything except for the Shotgun and the pistol.

The pistol is just as useless as full auto

[worldly spade]

[ivory ore]

Regular punch is much more fun than FA

(In 16)

Wait it isn’t FA it’s BF right?

[naive parcel]

hello doomers

[covert fable]

How large is the demonic crucible compared to the regular crucible?

Including the blade

[azure oriole]

Idk the exact lengths but they appear to be more or less the same

[covert fable]

grr

wont let me send images, but if you look at the 2016 images, it is gigantic compared to hayden, and remember hayden towers over DOOM guy

[vestal glen]

Finally went back and beat TAG part 2 and I’m happy about it. But the ending hit me in a way I didn’t like

[mossy nova]

cacodemons are blue berry juice thingss

[strange gale]

but you run into 2 rune stations way before you get ssg

[ivory ore]

Definitely a weird thing to add 😂

[mossy nova]

ballista boosting is fun

[viral cosmos]

but it goes pew pew pew

[azure oriole]

Err... you get the shotgun in the first corridor.
So you only have to kill 5 or 6 zombies with the pistol

I agree though that 2016 pistol is maybe the lamest weapon ever

[zinc cobalt]

But you can technically clear TAG with FA

But yeah FA is just really bad

[distant lynx]

Yet i killed every boss with it -_-

But doom eternal is the only doom the put up a fight

[ivory ore]

The put up

[distant lynx]

The action was amazing

Plus i even tackled some secrets

[viral cosmos]

hey we couldve got it in eternal if they decided to keep it

(thank god they didnt)

[azure oriole]

Sounds like a waste of time tbh

[strange gale]

cool? that doesn't change how lame the gun is

[slow sigil]

It's a shit weapon but it can still kill shit, because it's a weapon
Still a shit weapon though

[torpid bronze]

Doom 1993 pistol is even lamer.

[restive cedar]

doom 1993 fist?

[torpid bronze]

Doom 1 pistol needs 6 bullets to kill sn imp

[vital sapphire]

imps are stronger in older doom

[cyan nova]

Facts

[mossy nova]

i like cacodemons

[azure oriole]

the carcass is a pain

[ivory ore]

[azure oriole]

why is it funny

[ivory ore]

Because carcasses are a complete joke and just take one blood punch to kill

[azure oriole]

well they spam shields

[ivory ore]

Then jump atop them or dash

[azure oriole]

CAUSING YOU TO BLOW YOURSELF UP with your rocket launcher

[ivory ore]

https://youtu.be/5gM_Wev5uUo blood punch go brrr 3:30-5:15

[mossy nova]

yes

[mossy nova]

can anyone see my messages

[wanton atlas]

Yes?

[mossy nova]

i though there were something wrong with my internet that anyone cant see my messages

[vast lantern]

Hi everyone. Looking to farm 200 kills in eternal multiplayer

Anyone keen? Add me up at AfroDizzyYack92 . Let's help each other out

[azure oriole]

Carcasses and their shields die to 1 charge of destroyer blade

And stagger from a ballista headshot

[quartz charm]

What's the best looking skin in the entire game???

For me it would have to be either the cultist marauder, fallen angel, classic doomguy, or the retro revenant

[azure oriole]

Immoran slayer

[mossy nova]

doomicorn ember classic doom guy

[alpine hazel]

lux ssg

[mossy nova]

yes

[wanton atlas]

Ah, now I see what people meant by Eternal feeling less stable after the recent update. Definitely some lag issues going on.

First time playing in a while.

[dark crescent]

I have to go with the Hot rod Slayer but the unicorn 😩

[quartz charm]

I completely forgot about that skin
Yet it looks so awesome

[covert fable]

Not sure why people find tyrants difficult, I just spam missiles to take them down ez

A few 3 rocket barrages usually handles them

[slow sigil]

I dont think people find tyrants difficult

[brittle quest]

This is the second time you're writing this.

[random vault]

Hi

Doomers

[wooden forge]

i beat the game, what should i do now?

[random vault]

Tag, horde mode, battle m- :agony:

Or beat the game on a harder difficulty

[wooden forge]

i will try battle mode

[covert fable]

the first time was a joke

[covert fable]

Tell that to YouTube comments

[slow sigil]

They are not the brightest anyways

[sharp turret]

Doom 64 slayer

[random vault]

YouTube comments :agony: :acidLMFAO:

[slow sigil]

But if you just move around you can dodge all tyrant attacks, and they are furthermore just bulletsponges

[jaunty vapor]

Youtube and Reddit are where people still put month 1 takes.

[random vault]

not even y1 anymore
We’re down to m1 :suffering:

[slow sigil]

The discord isnt any better a quarter of the time tbf

Sniped the thumbsup

[jaunty vapor]

You really did

[sharp turret]

Hey guys marauder is hard also game journalist lmao

Upvotes to the right

[random vault]

Hey guys! I’m new here, how do I deal with this marauder, it’s so difficult! 😣

[jaunty vapor]

The bingo sheet would be
"Game journalists bad"
"Marauder hard/impossible"
"Not enough ammo for the game"
"Destroyer Blade is too slow"
"ZM the best"
and probably a few others I'm missing, besides the shit like "yOu CaN't JuSt ShOoT..."

[random vault]

i am not the villain in this st

[slow sigil]

Streets, dr hayden used to grow up in the hood

[random vault]

that is a weapon, not a

[brittle quest]

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