doom-eternal

[jolly kernel]

I know the destructible demons feature is complicated but it's a real shame that demon skins aren't usable in singleplayer in the vanilla game

[austere bronze]

pretty sure there's a mod for that

should be, since some mods use different demon skins in their levels

[neon shard]

Real

[jolly kernel]

yeah I know those

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1500378852193603695/lumberjack.mp4?ex=69f83832&is=69f6e6b2&hm=6e8a1dc0bc6e54207e8cdb3a2c19684697a9550e0e2d0ae88b847890385e3309&

[neon shard]

I'm setting up a classic 2016 Baron skin mod sometime soon, I'm kinda tired of the Fireborne one

[austere bronze]

there's a mod for that

[neon shard]

Yes yes, no single mod is that preferable tho. My dream is a proper baron with green blood as well as green blades, but that doesn't really exist from what I can tell

[austere bronze]

think it does

i'm pretty sure MuricanEagle made one

or maybe it didn't have all the green effects?

[neon shard]

https://mods.bethesda.net/en/doometernal/details/7de3154b-ef5c-4508-827b-4e9fdbf4021b/Baron_of_Hell_2016

I found this one, no blood tho I can't tell

[low bronze]

2016 baron of hell my beloved

[neon shard]

It's so peak

[low bronze]

literally my favorite baron

[neon shard]

Valid, it might be mine as well

The classic DOOM baron is also amazing

[low bronze]

real

theres this REALLY nice like skin mod for the baron thats like a combo of eternal and 2016

i'll find it

[neon shard]

I saw, I think that was the one with the mismatched armblades and blood unfortunately

As cool as the Fireborne Baron concept is, I feel like it took away some of the identity through the lack of green magic

[low bronze]

Red Fireborn Barons

[sand wasp]

Evening Slayers

[low bronze]

hello

[austere bronze]

helloo

[low bronze]

oh theres little eyes in the helmet

[solid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-slayer-taunt-doom-gif-5228825785991726881

sup my duuudes

[ebon pebble]

sup

[autumn dew]

yeah i am never touching taras nabad again after completing the master levl

[quiet cloud]

its the best ml 😭

[autumn dew]

that's subjective, to me that was one of the most agonizing experience or if not the most agonizing experience ive had playing a game

sgn ml was fair, but tn is a different story

[quiet cloud]

sure ig

i agree that the archville room is a bit cancer

[austere bronze]

i think overall taras nabad is, objectively, very well designed

however, it does suffer badly from inconsistent difficulty level

and there are some parts which suck, like the 2 marauders in the donut arena

which is why it's my 2nd or 3rd favorite

[autumn dew]

yeah, the whole thing was a breeze before that coin room and the double arch viles

[quiet cloud]

sticky bomb spam

and rockets too

[autumn dew]

donut room was manageable, it still took me a while because it was so hard to see from the fog

[austere bronze]

might replay the TN ml actually

kinda curious as to how quickly i can beat it too

[autumn dew]

those marauders felt like a breath of fresh air after going through these two hell of an encounter

[austere bronze]

i meant the arena that's shaped like a donut

you can run around in a ring, but the center is blocked off

[quiet cloud]

my best time was 35 mins

[austere bronze]

there's tons of prowlers there

[autumn dew]

oh yeah

[quiet cloud]

thats the whole lvl gng

[autumn dew]

i already hated prowlers but that room made me hate prowlers even more

[austere bronze]

wait that's actually really good

[autumn dew]

damn

took me 4 hours on my first nightmare run

[quiet cloud]

what the fuck how

[austere bronze]

with supers then?

[autumn dew]

i took breaks

[quiet cloud]

hell no

i dont use supers

[autumn dew]

and i didnt have supers for the double arch vile and the coin room, that's why it took me so long

[austere bronze]

ggs

fastest time i've ever seen someone do it while doing all encounters is slightly below 32 min

[quiet cloud]

i mean beating it is what counts

so good job

[autumn dew]

thanks, i wont be touching this game again for a while

[quiet cloud]

i was going for sub 30 then realised i have a life

this was back in 2021 tho

ive lost a lot of skill since then

[austere bronze]

that's only 2 min slower than when sylar did it in 2021

very nice

[quiet cloud]

who is sylar ?

[autumn dew]

a very cracked doom player

[quiet cloud]

idk i just joined this community 😭

[quiet cloud]

gotchu

[autumn dew]

i think that's the guy who did no damage on ios and davoth

[quiet cloud]

um

ive beat davoth no dmg too

ion tho

[autumn dew]

fair, he's pretty easy

[quiet cloud]

never done that no dmg

[autumn dew]

yeah, ios is weird

like im all the way at the other side of the map and his punch still hits me

[quiet cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/gyro-zeppeli-jojo-sbr-steel-ball-run-gif-3965985935104437104

[austere bronze]

currently one of the absolute best players

easily in the top 10

[quiet cloud]

holy shit

[austere bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00wwGtI7d-E

[quiet cloud]

lemme guess the length

4 hours or smth

oh damn

still pretty long

i bet this guy can deal with whiplashes without d blades or lobs

😭

[austere bronze]

maybe...

[austere bronze]

wowzas

i got a sub 25min run

[quiet cloud]

tarus nabad ml?

[austere bronze]

yes

[quiet cloud]

holy fucking shit

did u use supers ?

[austere bronze]

no supers or shield

i expected like a 30 min run xd

[quiet cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

here i thought i was decent at the game

[austere bronze]

you're more than decent at the game😭

i might record a tn ml playthrough, cause i don't have anything to do anyways lolol

[quiet cloud]

beat sekiro hitless

trust me its fun

[quiet cloud]

thanks tho

[austere bronze]

i have a feeling it's not...

i don't have sekiro anyways though

[quiet cloud]

ye its not

[quiet cloud]

u should get it its my fav game oat

also got rly good mod support
mods are a bit tough for people but i find them rly fun

i can show u a vid for it if u like

[scenic axle]

Vro what

My last run was 35min

I gotta play some more sometime but I've been too busy playing marathon

[quiet cloud]

oh yo same here

[scenic axle]

I know I could do it faster, maybe close to 30 if I tried really hard

Haven't played in a while though so it would take a bit to get warm again

[quiet cloud]

bro is repeating the exact same words as me 😭

[scenic axle]

LOL

If I used supers it'd be easy but that's boring

I gotta un hells abyss sometime I can't believe I still haven't done that

[quiet cloud]

hell abyss v2 is my fav modded lvl ngl

[scenic axle]

Just glad I did this, easily the hardest single arena I've done, it's not even meant to be done normally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTGLx32Qr1s&t=4s

[scenic axle]

Yeah that and consumed earth are my favorites

[quiet cloud]

took me 1 hour to ultra nm

[quiet cloud]

nice

[quiet cloud]

holy shit ur a peak person

[scenic axle]

Supers are fine and there's nothing wrong with using them, It just destroys the combat loop and It's not even really the same experience with them

I want to actually fight the enemies not just press the delete button

[quiet cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/gyro-zeppeli-jojo-sbr-steel-ball-run-gif-3965985935104437104

[austere bronze]

cbt be like

[scenic axle]

Yeah that took me like a good 45 minutes to beat LOL

and the final run was only 2 minutes

[austere bronze]

dblade carried

[scenic axle]

Oh yeah I should use it more

[austere bronze]

sure!

[scenic axle]

You should try this sometime so I can know how hard it really is

[austere bronze]

i can try it now

[scenic axle]

Gotta have one super hard arena that I've beaten 💀

[quiet cloud]

dms ?

[scenic axle]

I used infinite ammo cause there's basically no fodder

[austere bronze]

okai

[scenic axle]

Until after you kill almost all the superheavies

[austere bronze]

doesn't there spawn like some maykr drones

[scenic axle]

So you just run out and might not be able to kill them all

[scenic axle]

At the very end

There's like 1 fodder enemy for 3 marauders, 2 barons, 3 tyrants, and a few heavies

I think it's possible without it I just wasn't gonna bother trying for that

I'm watching all my videos and now I wanna go play again 😭
This one was so fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdDufD40BeM&t=924s

[austere bronze]

infinite ammo is making me constantly flame and grenade😭

you should try the new blighted base level on the mod portal if you wanna start playing again

[scenic axle]

Is that a cultist base one? how hard is it?

[quiet cloud]

ngl am still working on beating the slayer gate of cultist stronghold on nm

my best attempt was when i got halfway through lmao

[scenic axle]

When I played that level I just skipped that part cause it kept crashing my pc, idk why

[austere bronze]

yes, it's a bit easier than hell's abyss unbalanced

though very long, the deathless playtrhoguhs i've seen of it have been 2 hours long

[scenic axle]

I gotta try that sometime then

[scenic axle]

Well it’ll give me a long time to warm back up then

How’s the arena?

[austere bronze]

got pulled away, so i've only given it lne sttempt

got stunlocjef immediately lolol

[quiet cloud]

ngl u should play unreclaimed earth

its a rly good level

[scenic axle]

I’ve done that one a couple times

I’ve done all the more famous levels, just haven’t played for a few months so I haven’t done anything new

[quiet cloud]

oh

nice ig

[scenic axle]

That one is a really cool level

I remember my first playthrough and I was freaking out when I saw samur in that final arena

I absolutely hated tormented earth final arena that one hurt me

[quiet cloud]

oh ye btw @austere bronze thanks for telling me about diasy's lament its a rly cool level

[scenic axle]

That one’s really cool, all the ones with custom geo are awesome

[austere bronze]

daisy's lament isn't with any custom geo

[austere bronze]

not nearly as bad as the mall arena tho😭

[scenic axle]

Oh is that not a custom arena

[scenic axle]

Yeah fair

[austere bronze]

battlemode map

the difficulty of the arena seems very dependent on your luck

in the berserk arena

[gaunt smelt]

I’m gonna do another UN run today see if I can finally pass Exultia

[twin umbra]

good luck !

[noble blade]

finished doom eternal on nightmare right now
it really is the best doom game

[upbeat dirge]

its not the best doom game, every game is so different that they cant be compared.

comparing doom eternal to dark ages is kinda wrong

or comparing doom eternal to doom 2016

am not saying that doom eternal is bad

am saying that you cant compare them

anyways, congrats on beating the game on nightmare (=

[austere bronze]

different games can absolutely be compared

how well do they do X, Y, Z things and then compare that

[wicked silo]

I think perspective matters as well. I'm 42, I remember having to type doom.exe into dos to play. I prefer 2016 over eternal because for me, it is more like the OG Doom 1. I would suspect if youre a gamer nowadays, never played doom and started with Eternal, you might prefer that, as its closer in style to modern gaming. They all shine in different ways and I cant stop playing through them all over and over again

[storm eagle]

Comparison gets old when each game was intended to be different

[noble blade]

saying that all media are equal and shouldn't be compared feels defeatist

[noble blade]

I was expecting to be harder, I was shocked by how much the game let me get away with my unoptimized gameplay

[austere bronze]

"unoptimized" i think is a very relative term

i think nightmare is a challenging difficulty, but considering it's the highest difficulty, it's not super hard

[noble blade]

Really? I thought Eternal was a lot closer to the classic experience, classic Doom without save scumming, pistol start, and UV difficulty, plays much like the puzzle combat of Eternal. Doom 2016 was just play whatever you want, I place classic Doom above Doom 3 and 2016 exactly because of that

[gusty ocean]

I feel like the need for verticality on eternal make it feel like a much more departed experience from classic doom ngl

Doom 2016 is more horizontal and you can go without changing from the ssg like in classic doom

And honestly i feel like the dark ages is the one that plays the most like classic doom

[scenic axle]

I think you mostly just need to move around a certain way so you don't get stuck, ai pathing can also be a bit luck based

[wicked silo]

So the main things I focus on when I try to explain why I think eternal is different is number 1 the movement puzzles and number 2 the fact that you have to optimize in combat. You need to target specific areas with specific weapons or you just won't kill things and/or you run out of ammo. Classic doom and 2016 you can just kinda hulk smash your way through it

[wicked silo]

That said... I'm playing through Eternal right now and it is awesome.

[neon shard]

What would you guys say are the different enemy archetypes in DOOM Eternal? Not talking about enemy classes like fodder or super heavies

[low bronze]

I'm so thankful to whoever said use remote detonate on marauders because im now using it on everything

[upbeat dirge]

remote detonation is so good when you actually start using it🔥 🗣️ 🗣️

[austere bronze]

i also felt like when the enemy spawned in felt super random

[austere bronze]

what do you mean?

[upbeat dirge]

what are archetypes?
am stupid...

[scenic axle]

It believe it depends on when you kill a certain amount of other enemies so you want to focus the supers and not kill any fodder

[austere bronze]

ahh that makes sense

[low bronze]

the background ambiance and sound effects of eternal are so nice. I have music off and sound effects turned up and I'm just walking around the fortress, listening to everything.

[void spire]

I think my favorite Doom Eternal chapter is Taras Nabad, for the atmosphere

[upbeat dirge]

i like play doom eternal without sound, just listening to my keyboard clicking noise.
my first playthought of the game on nightmare was fully without sound, and the last time ive played with sound was 2 years ago.
so yeah, i dont get to hear any sfx.

[neon shard]

Attack styles essentially, if enemies charge or hit and run

Or if they’re purely ranged, or swarming you with numbers like zombies

[neon shard]

The checkpoints in the Mars Core ML are really getting to me, that double Marauder fight takes 2 waves to even start

Does anyone have any tips for taking them out? As in that arena, since there's respawning heavies

I'm on Nightmare as well

Maybe there's a way to skip it entirely

[storm eagle]

If you wanna skip it you can just type "killai" in your console command

[neon shard]

How do I use the command? I know how to access the panel, but nothing seems to happen

Just says "unknown command" when I type in killai

[jovial coral]

Are you using the sandbox version, or the retail one ??

[neon shard]

I don't know what these are

[quiet cloud]

yo are u the guy who designs the custom maps ?

[jovial coral]

Like when you launch the game from the steam. did click Play Doom eternal or Play Doom Eternal with mods ??

[neon shard]

Just without mods yeah

[jovial coral]

Yes

[quiet cloud]

YOOOOO

absolute peak stuff my guy

rly nice work on the holt master level

i think that was u?

[jovial coral]

Ok then you need the patcher, search in google "Doom eternal Mod injector" click in gamebanana website because they upload the latest version of modinjector Install it the modinjector and launch the game normally should unlock the CVARS for you

[neon shard]

I thought commands were basegame :o

[jovial coral]

it an old one made it back in 2021

[quiet cloud]

peak nonetheless

i also recently beat the bloodswamps one

[jovial coral]

yeah, but alot of cmds are locked

[neon shard]

Damn

[storm eagle]

Base game needs the injector

[neon shard]

Thanks for the help. I gotta do this ML again, welp

I'll try a few more times to beat the encounter

[jovial coral]

classic 2020

[quiet cloud]

yeah

[jovial coral]

if cmd didnt work you need another tool

[neon shard]

@jovial coral Anything in particular I have to do when downloading the mod?

[jovial coral]

Nope, just install the modinjector, run the "EternalModInjector.bat" let do the work after it install launch the game normally

You only need to run the modinjector once btw, you can launch the game normally from steam

[nova cloud]

is ddom eternal goinmg on sale this summer??

[low bronze]

Im close to 100 hours in doom eternal on my steam

[neon shard]

With the help of you guys I can finally cheat my way back to the point in Mars Core ML where my game crashed a couple days ago

[rare trench]

Yal are the eternal servers having any problems today? It just wont connect even though my internet is fine

[rare trench]

Bro this game dead asf that's so depressing 😭😭

[high valley]

Can anyone help me with online 200kills trophy?

[storm eagle]

something you can do is go to the top right search and type in "battlemode" or "trophies" and see who have very recently commented/asked. Then ping them and see if they're still looking.

@tardy patrol If you're still needing help someone is looking to grind out trophies^^

[kind pier]

in sandbox save files don't show up for tag1 or 2

[silk sonnet]

Hey guys, I just finished DOOM eternal for the first time on PS5 through PlayStation plus, I want to play the DLC ancient god part 1 and 2. But I can’t seem to access it when I try to download it. Has anyone else encountered this and know a solution?

[solid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-goose-peace-was-never-any-option-gif-16563148593469228887

[median fiber]

I had it before, basically you need to try and find the ps4 version because im pretty sure the one youre seeing is the ps5 updated version which you need the ps4 version for (its really stupid i know)

Try searching for it in the PlayStation store

I cant remember how i solved it but i think i do remember finding it there

Ok i remember, go to doom eternal on the PlayStation app and go onto add ons

[silk sonnet]

Wait so I need to download the ps4 version of the game to access the DLC. Would I need to pay for that or is it included?

[median fiber]

No no you just need to buy the DLC

The ps5 version is just a free updated version

Idk if my explanation made sense but i hope it did

[small rose]

im freezing in this game after beating super gore nest for 0 absolute reason at all. my pc can run the game well at max graphics with 0 issues
basically, after i completed the entirety of super gore nest, it asked me to save my progress to continue, which i did (try to). when i hold enter to continue, i get the "Saving..." screen and nothing is happening, cant even move my cursor. i can alt tab out of the game and do stuff on windows though
ive tried switching the game from an hdd to an ssd, tried lowering the settings to medium, tried waiting for a while and still nothing
pc specs are: i7-3770, 16 gb 1866mhz ddr3 ram, gtx 1060 6 gb
dont know why that happens, maybe someone knows a fix? thanks!

[quiet cloud]

dont run on ultra or ultra nm graphics
it may cause a memory leak

also try to use the escape key to get to the main menu and then play the next mission

but ye ur "saving......" prob indicates the rendering engine has locked up while trying to write the save file

try disabling steam overlay if ur using it

u can backup the remote folder and delete the autosave folders

if deleting it works then good else u can just restore the original state of the game from the backup

[small rose]

always played on medium for high fps
will try the fixes you provided later, thanks!

[quiet cloud]

alr gl

[whole socket]

i played doom when i was 6yo

[void spire]

Wut

560 lbs in deadlift when I was 13 months

(Slayer childhood literally)

[pastel lagoon]

lol

[plain current]

Does anyone have tips about how can i get better with the Eternal controls? I want to complete the game in ultra nightmare

[quick trench]

Are Tyrants just renamed Cyberdemons or are they different demons?

[pastel lagoon]

to defeat a tyrant, shoot it until it dies.

personally i just turned my sens up and that was good enough for me

[plain current]

I think they are different demons

[pastel lagoon]

i thought they were renamed

classic trilogy had cyberdemons, modern trilogy has tyrants

[plain current]

Nah, the name is too iconic and they appear as a brand-new enemy in Doom 1+2’s Legacy Of Rust

[pastel lagoon]

fairs

[plain current]

I think they needed a cyberdemon look-a-like demon but didn’t know how to introduce it because of the Doom 2016 redesign

[pastel lagoon]

oh yea totally i get what you mean

my first time fighting a tyrant was so cool icl

[plain current]

Mine was kind of disappointing, i wanted a harder fight

[pastel lagoon]

exactly

[quick trench]

Dark Ages’ Cyberdemon is the coolest

[pastel lagoon]

i thought it was a boss at first, but no

[pastel lagoon]

i wonder what that looks like

[plain current]

I like it cyberdemons as just super heavy enemies but they needed to be harder to kill

[plain current]

I think that one had wings

[pastel lagoon]

shit bro

damnnn

[quick trench]

https://fixupx.com/doom/status/1914416394914959752?s=46&t=Cf1oZILfEZV-Nkm2FPvZ2g

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[pastel lagoon]

genuinely cool af

[plain current]

Hell yeah he got his name back

[pastel lagoon]

i feel like cyberdemon is cooler than tyrant

[quick trench]

Absolutely

“Tyrant” is kinda cool but also generic

[plain current]

I like both but Tyrant didn’t make any sense

[pastel lagoon]

it might say in the codex how it got the name tyrant

[quick trench]

It doesn’t

[pastel lagoon]

oh ok

[quick trench]

Demon Lords to the black soul pits of Babel, the Tyrants have long served as wardens and slavers of the infernal pits. Weaponized and cybernetically altered by the UAC, the Tyrants are tasked with overseeing the collection and extraction of sin-branded souls from the mortal world, their role in Hell ordained by the unholy sigil of the Elder Hell-gods. A sadistic master of lesser demons, the Tyrants are feared for their cruelty and malice.

Btw in Dark Ages you see a Cyberdemon by chapter 5

[frozen grove]

Anyone online

i need a bit of help

lol

the bot being named vega is fitting

[neon shard]

I beat Horde Mode! I forgot which difficulty but, man was that awesome

The final arena in The Holt segment was unreal, the double Marauder leading into 2 spirit barons + a cyberbaron was actually peak

I usually find spirits a bit annoying, but they were used very well here

I did almost end up with a spirit Archvile and a spirit Cyberbaron tho, that would've been bad

[unreal flare]

It's most likely because TDA Cyberdemons and Eternal Tyrants are different species that stem from the same common ancestor

[quick trench]

maybe

[unreal flare]

To be fair I like to think that the demons of hell evolve with time in different directions. It actually gives a reason for Modern Imps and Imp Stalkers to coexist, as they both descend from the Classic Imp but went through different evolutionary paths

[quick trench]

and Pinky Riders

[unreal flare]

I think mapping out the different species of demons is a really fun thought exercise like that

[neon shard]

TDA Hell and Eternal Hell take place in different regions afterall

I think it's a 2016 Baron vs Fireborne Baron kinda deal

[neon shard]

Also Archviles, which look very similar to the Stalkers. Maybe it began with a common ancestor akin to the Stalker/1993 Imp, and then it split into the more insectoid 2016 Imps, and the Archvile species

[unreal flare]

My working theory is that some evolution cycles are bound to repeat themselves. Classic Archviles might have been some form of ancient Imp, whereas Modern Archviles descend from Imp Stalkers, which descend from Classic Imps. Thus, it's possible to imagine some sort of post-Modern Archvile descending from Modern Imps.

[neon shard]

I think there's also some similarities between the 2016 Imp and the Summoner, which would make a lot of sense if they kept that healer/summoner gene

[unreal flare]

Yes that's said in one of the codex entries I believe

[neon shard]

That explains a lot

[unreal flare]

so I guess Summoners could be the alternative form to Modern Archviles, descending from TDA Imps at the earliest

[neon shard]

Definitely

[unreal flare]

I just gotta figure out a link between Summoners and Spirits from TAG though

[neon shard]

Oh well, they're the same being, just one is in spirit form

Kept alive by pure hatred of the DOOM Slayer

[unreal flare]

Could work quite well, and maybe it's their summoning abilities that allow them to summon themselves postmortem as they wander for a host to inhabit

I don't remember how the codex entry for Spirits goes

[neon shard]

What I think is very interesting is how Demons in differing regions have evolved similar traits, like the 2016 Hell has had several Demons lose their eyes entirely, and Eternal Hell sees Demons with magmatic blood

[neon shard]

I like that idea, I do think their summoning abilities have some ties to necromancy, so a tie in with the spirit realm makes sense

[unreal flare]

Different regions can offer different results, and it's likely the same region that spawned Doom 3's Hellknight is responsible for the 2016 Hellknight as well

[neon shard]

Mhm

Oh right, 2016 Hell also has a lot of cycloptic Demons

[unreal flare]

I really like the 2016 Mancubi honestly

[neon shard]

Same, they're my favorite design of the species

The Cybermanc was also a lot better in that game, just going off the colors

[unreal flare]

It's definitely like a top 2 Mancubus design in the entire series, right behind TDA's Mancubus

[neon shard]

TDA Manc is prolly nr 2 for me

I like the gameplay value of the Eternal one but, the face is a bet eh to me

[unreal flare]

iirc the 2016 Cyberdemon is a different species altogether from the Classic Cyberdemon, and honestly I really appreciate the originality id went for in 2016

[neon shard]

The TDA one reminds me of Little Nightmares, which is awesome

[neon shard]

Mhm

2016 kinda felt like they took the best ideas from DOOM 3 and made then HD

And with that, I think their Hell regions are likely closely related

DOOM 3's Hell might be deep beneath the floating islands from 2016

[unreal flare]

I think it's possible, especially since aside from a few demons in 2016 they mostly draw from their Classic counterparts instead of their Doom 3 counterparts

The Cacodemon in 2016 looks a lot more like the Classic Cacodemon than the Doom 3 Cacodemon, for example

[neon shard]

True that

[unreal flare]

Generally speaking Doom 3 has a lot of strange demons that are fully exclusive to that game and that I'd really like to see again in some form

TDA dipped their toes in the water with the Vagary, which I appreciate. But what about stuff like the Trites, Wretches or Cherubs?

[neon shard]

I like those smaller spider lookin ones

[unreal flare]

Those ones really work in a horror setting but I do believe they could make great fodder in a future Doom game

[neon shard]

The D3 Pinky is also super interesting due to the similarities with the Cosmic Baron

[unreal flare]

Ohh that's interesting, never really saw it like that myself but I kinda see it now

[neon shard]

The Bruiser is also awesome

[unreal flare]

Oh man I don't remember what this one looks like hold on

Oh yeah it's the guy with the TV

I genuinely have no idea how id came up with this guy because even for Doom that's such a weird design

[neon shard]

It's like a fit Mancubus lol, could easily see it filling in the role of another modern DOOM Demon

[unreal flare]

I think without the screen stuck to its face it's a great design

[neon shard]

I love the horns, I kinda wish that was more common

[unreal flare]

I could see this one make a return in The Dark Ages, with a strong skeletal structure instead of a screen like in Doom 3

[neon shard]

It's such a bummer the horned Eternal Hellknight was never used

[unreal flare]

There was a horned Hellknight in Eternal's concept art?

[neon shard]

I'll ping you in Codex, I think I can send images there

[cobalt stone]

I couldve sworn each tag1 level took around an hour to complete

[scenic axle]

Just depends on your skill

[upbeat dirge]

for me, its around 20-30 minutes.
but when ive played it for the first time it took me like 2 hours for each level.
(i was playing on nightmare)

[last hamlet]

How do you make those work in any context other than doom 3?

Their whole gimick is that they look like monitors

[unreal flare]

To be fair Doom 3 has a lot of unique demons in its roster that can be adapted without too much difficulty for other Doom games

But for this guy? Aside from canning the mouth piece entirely for a skeletal protrusion, I got nothing

[neon shard]

They’re quite long yeah

[fast berry]

yall hop on doom eternal battlemode i cant find a match

[formal plover]

Guys i have 5/6 Emprayean Keys now, i will get the 6th tormkow

[upbeat dirge]

"tormkow" 😭

[neon shard]

Oh hell yeah! Which Slayer Gates have you completed thus far?

[small rose]

can we go to dms really quick

[quiet cloud]

sure

[neon shard]

I just beat Blood Swamps on Nightmare, the trials were amazing

One of the best levels for sure, still doesn't have the replayabilty of smth like Nekravol II or Cultist Base

I think the difficulty is great however, loved the challenge

I think what really kept me going was that damn music, only Cultist Base, ARC Complex, The Necropolis and the BFG Division levels in 2016 had me humming this much

Only track where the light combat is tuffer than the super heavy segment

[upbeat dirge]

nekravol 2 and cultist base are the worst levels in the main campaign in my opinion.
ive replayed blood swampies 8 times already...

[neon shard]

Oh damn, fair enough

Why so?

[upbeat dirge]

nekravol 2 is underwhelming and too small, it feels not like a huge region. it just feels like 3 very easy arenas.

and the cultist base... i know that many people like it but...
its just WAY too long. it is longer than UAC atlantica for me...
and due to it being an early game region, every encounter plays the same way.
you dont have runes like savagery that make the game fun, you do not have upgrades or masteries unlocked.
you dont even have ballista, i cant live without the ballista and SS quick-swapping.
you are just forced to be bored for 40-50 minutes. (while uac atlantica takes me 20-30)
dont even get me started on the revenant control section and the section right after you get the super shotgun.
these sections are underwhelming and boring.

cultist base is fun when you play on already completed save with all the weapons tho...

[drowsy wedge]

sounds like you just like playing with the fully unlocked kit

theres an inherent fun playing with tools that arent fully OP yet

also i have no idea how you can say atlantica is shorter than cultist. atlantica is just SO fucking long its absurd

[neon shard]

UAC Atlantica would be higher on my list if it wasn't that long yeah

Same with the World Spear sorta, just loses that replay value

Nekravol - Part II being that short is why I love it so much, you get to explore an entire world without losing energy

[upbeat dirge]

playing with bad tools against hard enemies can be fun,
playing with bad tools against easy enemies in a long level is meh...

[austere bronze]

consequence of that is less player options though

which limits creativity and makes combat slower and simpler

[vivid cedar]

guys which is higher in dps, punch swap SSG or pb ssg

[austere bronze]

ssg punch cancels

[formal plover]

all except in Super Bore Nest

Gore*

[formal plover]

I got the last key

[frozen grove]

i realized

some of the uhh animated stickers are just the steam stickers for doom eternal

[scenic axle]

How does it take you so long? I looked back at the UN run I recorded like a year ago when I was significantly worse than I am now and cultist took me 24 mins

[austere bronze]

oh man, this reminds me i gotta finish the kaiser campaign

[prime spear]

I just died on horde mode😭

[scenic axle]

Atlantica also just took me 24 mins

[void spire]

Wait, I don’t know if I’m lonely in this situation, but sometimes my skills are good and I’ve very well feelings about the game ; and few days after, I do the worst run ever-
It’s very embarassing but I can’t do anything, I guess

For exemple, today I retry Hord Mode in standard difficulty just for fun : but it was catastrophic
So, I’m disappointed-

[karmic maple]

Just bought Doom Eternal for my friend to see it live streamed! Can't wait to have him see the BFG10000 w/The Surface of Mars

[hollow pendant]

"Nekravol 2 smoll"
Reclaimed Earth: what am I to you?

And I agree about Cultist base, but managing points you can unlock quick swap iirc and you can soon pb+rocket combo. And if by SS you mean super shoty... SSG+ballista is a basic braindead combo to start doing other combos.

"Racalling memories of dealing whiplash arena on UN beamlocking onto pb+rocket"

Back to small missions... Nothing beats Reclaimed Earth. Too claustrophobic and demons moving between slopes to sabotage meathooking and encircling friendly to dogpile. Add a mach 3 possesed mancubus turreting you and not only gotta ballista boost but also chaingun shield on the lookout for an opening for microwave lock because the mofo also do predictive shooting and peek a boo shots before popping out of a corner

[neon shard]

Hell yeah!

[neon shard]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-doom-at-everyone-everyone-arch-vile-gif-6653218301493400339

[formal plover]

I unlocked the Unmaykr and completed Nekrova

Nekravol*

[formal plover]

Mars Core

[karmic maple]

That's the one, I was just saying the specific moment so there wasn't confusion (If any)

[low bronze]

so my husband is trying to play eternal again but he says theres too many buttons to kinda cycle through on keyboard. He's doing better than he did with a controller but we need some advice with keyboard stuff.

he's having an easier time with dark ages btw so keep that in mind

[scenic axle]

Small in terms of length

[scenic axle]

Can you elaborate? Do you mean too many buttons for like weapons?

[low bronze]

I believe so. He wasn't using his flame blech or frag due to the weapon buttons and movement

he's usually very good with this stuff so Idk whats happening. Im a controller user so i can't help

[neon shard]

Nekravol my beloved

[sour arch]

Hey guys I’m wondering how long does it take to master pb + ballista swap

[woeful panther]

Any up to boost achievments online in steam ? Need + 2 player

[scenic axle]

If he’s not using the weapon wheel he should, that’ll make swapping weapons way easier. It’s okay to not use everything right away, he should try to get comfortable with the movement and then incorporate his util into his gameplay

[scenic axle]

Are we talking the frame perfect for fse or just normal swapping

[formal plover]

I beat doom eternal

[low bronze]

hell yeah

[neon shard]

Hell yeah :D

Are you planning on playing the DLC?

[pastel lagoon]

isnt that the ancient gods, i wanna get it too

[pastel lagoon]

bruh nightmare mode so hard i finna break my controller

[void spire]

I unlocked Unmaykr in completed slot but never used

[void spire]

Me in Hord Mode yesterday

But I won (and lost my soul)

[pastel lagoon]

i feel obligated to play it since it recommended me to beat the game first yk

[void spire]

I finished TAG 1 and 2 last week

Peak (but I lost my soul too-)

[pastel lagoon]

damn well dome

done*

[pastel lagoon]

lol

[void spire]

In finished the campaign in 2 days, and DLC’s in 3

Yet I’m employed-

[pastel lagoon]

it took me a few weeks to beat it cuz it was my first ever doom game

[void spire]

Mmmh okay

I played Doom 2016 few weeks before

[pastel lagoon]

nice

[void spire]

Fun, but Eternal is so much better to me

[pastel lagoon]

ive played a bit of 2016 but eternal is also way better imo

[void spire]

Yup, but I would like to play in The Dark Ages
I think it can be my favorite Doom game

[sonic wadi]

Heyyy, what’s the multiplayer like on ps4 is it dead or alive? Heard it might be crossgen meaning being able to play with ps5 players as well?

[swift hare]

i think it is crossgen

ive been looking for someone to do the multiplayer trophies with for so long ong

[ashen ginkgo]

Yeah me too

[pastel lagoon]

ive seen a few of the weapons, they look good but also dont really fit my style, e.g. the skull crusher gun. it looks great, dont get me wrong. but i liked how realistic most of the guns were. (besides from the BFG, balista, plasma rifle)

and maybe the super shotgun but thats just a DB with a grapple hook attached to it

[hollow pendant]

Reclaimed earth is also short

[scenic axle]

Last time I played main campaign both nekravols combined took me 20 mins, it's far shorter than reclaimed earth

[upbeat dirge]

reclaimed earth is like 15 minutes long for me

[scenic axle]

yeah and 15 minutes for one level is longer than 20 mins for two

reclaimed earth might be short but nekravol is super short

[upbeat dirge]

o

[real holly]

got back into Eternal after a while and did Final Sin with no superweapons for the first time. Funnily enough it's fine until you get to the Icon where you realize just how much trouble the bfg saves you

same for the crucible

i swear Icon of Sin was designed with bfg in mind

[upbeat dirge]

it was designed with crucible in mind.
not BFG.
you can very easily beat it without bfg. even on nightmare.

[real holly]

it's not about easiness my god

doom eternal fans trying to make it about easiness for some reason

-Random comment about the game
-Oh but that's easy

we adding nothing to the convo with this one 💯💯

[upbeat dirge]

am pointing out that you are wrong, not saying that a boss is easy.

[real holly]

then say that instead of randomly saying "it's very easy"

[pastel lagoon]

i mean, there are a fuck ton of crucible charges. but they are more for killing the demons rather than the icon himself, bfg was MADE for the icon of sin yk

in the bossfight that is

[upbeat dirge]

oh

[real holly]

you made total sense with the crucible comment, why you adding the easy comment like what does it have to do with the topic at hand

when faced with pain elementals and barons the crucible really does shine, or else you have to ignore the Icon momentarily to focus on the somewhat threatening enemies

[pastel lagoon]

exactly

[real holly]

there's five billion ways to destroy the icon without bfg, that much is obvious

the thing is they kind of give you a decent amount of bfg ammo so it's somewhat logical to assume they put em there as a failsafe for players who struggle more

regardless yeah, I don't understand the doom eternal, and just modern doom topic trend of answering every query with a skill issue accusation even when it doesn't fit at all

[upbeat dirge]

😭

AM SORRY

[real holly]

oh okay

apology accepted good sir, have a nice day

[drowsy wedge]

standard discord interaction

[pastel lagoon]

lol

[real holly]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-dies-gif-24297438

mfw the opposition lowkenuienly apologizes and i look at my bloodstained hands in horror

[sour arch]

Normal swap

[storm eagle]

don't be rude

[real holly]

if i had to list the most reliable approaches for Icon of sin armor destruction I'd go as follows
-BFG obviously (not necessary)
-SSG+Ballista quickswap (more effective in the first phase and requires good close up positioning to perform as effectively as possible)
-Micro missiles (Genuinely melt the fuckers armor don't sleep on them at max upgrade)
-Ballista and rocket swap (Basically the most "consistent" long range option outside of micro missiles if you can manage your rocket prediction aim)
-Turret (Basic bitch option that deals way less damage than the micro missiles, like it's useful but micro missiles use the same ammo and are better)

[pastel lagoon]

i just blasted the fuck out of him with the chaingun and bfg lol

[real holly]

I think it's, possible to use autoshotgun? I don't remember how useful that is at close range doe

chaingun is useful for players who struggle on the boss due to the shield basically being able to nullify all damage from the Icon, even punches

[pastel lagoon]

whatever gets the job done for me

[real holly]

another reason why that stupid shield is ridiculously broken cause tf u mean it can negate a full punch from the Icon

on another note I think the precision bolt even with quickswap or punch cancelling just blows it literally tickles the Icon if i remember correctly

[pastel lagoon]

i will admit, on my second playthrough, i have started to chain attacks with different guns e.g. SSG and ballista (i havent unlocked billista yet)

[real holly]

billista, it fires 100 dollar bills

[pastel lagoon]

fr

[jovial coral]

The Icon of sin wasn't design for the BFG or the crucible, Bfg and crucible it just free out jail card, Nothing in eternal design for super weapons

[real holly]

i mean, I'd like to think so but why are the crucible pickups endlessly regenerating on the Icon fight?

maybe they were worried Pain Elementals or Barons or just Heavy and upward demons would be too powerful for some players?

[pastel lagoon]

or maybe crucible pickups were so sparse and rare

[jovial coral]

Yeah, but these pickups there not only to use it for the icon of sin, it more like giving the play more options

[pastel lagoon]

it also fits the vibe, yk, you get to use your most powerful weapon to help destroy the most powerful enemy

[jovial coral]

It mosty likley for the other demons in arena, The icon of sin fight expect to use everything that game teach you

[pastel lagoon]

100%

[pastel lagoon]

your definitely correct, im was one of those player who NEEDED all the bfg and crucible pickups so when i realized they were infinite i was very relieved lol

[austere bronze]

there is somewhat of a general tendency to brush of critique because "X thing is easy anyways", but here it is relevant

if the icon was made with heavy BFG usage in mind, it would imply playing without it would be very hard

[real holly]

true

[pastel lagoon]

fr

[storm eagle]

Here's a concept: Play it however you want to

[real holly]

who implied otherwise

[pastel lagoon]

prolly cuz we talm bout how to kill icon of sin? idk

[real holly]

the question was moreso related to dev intent rather than trying to shame people for daring to use the bfg

hell i use the bfg in mars core ml and sgn ml sometimes, but it's just because some arenas drag

[storm eagle]

uhh you

[pastel lagoon]

its so fun to use i never take it for granted

[real holly]

still pissy that the final arena of sgn ml doesn't use the fire theme

[real holly]

when

[storm eagle]

"It was designed with BFG in mind"
"You can easily beat it without BFG"

[real holly]

i don't remember saying you should play it a certain way, closest i got was just listing my opinions on the various approaches you can take

[jovial coral]

this

[storm eagle]

Yeah and then by making fun of someone else

[real holly]

who

[real holly]

yeah i changed my mind on that pronto, when i said "I swear" I basically meant "I don't really know"

[storm eagle]

You're good at gaslighting my guy

#doom-eternal message

how is this not rude?

[real holly]

okay i don't know exactly what i did wrong but im not in the mood to go on a passive aggressive argument with a mod so I'll drop it here

[jovial coral]

OKIEEE 🙂

[real holly]

it was moreso expressing a general frustration with the statement but yes, i see now that was rude

[pastel lagoon]

nah cuz you cant say the arena with 4+ bfg ammos WASNT made for the bfg

icl

[real holly]

well, there's an arena in Mars Core ML that has endlessly regenerating bfg ammo

[pastel lagoon]

oh damn i didnt know that

[real holly]

but it isn't necessarily designed around that, considering how each wave of combat isn't abrasively nightmarish

the only arena truly designed with a superweapon in mind was the first bfc arena in dark ages

you can beat it without bfc but like, it's a chore

[scenic axle]

Not very long

[formal plover]

the ancient gods part 1 n 2? Yeah maybe i will

[neon shard]

I recommend them both, there’s a lot of gameplay for only 6 levels

[formal plover]

yeah

Then maybe i will complete doom 2016

[formal plover]

dem

[north jasper]

Anybody know why I joined the slayers club but didn't get the zombie slayer skin?

[formal plover]

idk if it's available on controller, or any Thing you are playing on , it's available on Steam tho

[north jasper]

It's available on everything

[swift scroll]

Are any 2 people willing to join me and help me get the battle mode trophies on the ps4 version of the game?

[formal plover]

Oh

[slim jackal]

hey are the battle mode achievements even like do-able nowadays? i wanna go back to the game soon and plat it but I’m hesitant on trying if the online mode is dead

[low bronze]

It's like more alive than 2016 mutiplayer but its full of sweats

idk if you can get the achievments with private matches

[slim jackal]

I didn’t even remember there being a 2016 multiplayer lol I wanna go back and get that one too

[slim jackal]

I’ll find out!

[low bronze]

hopefully we can get achievments on private matches

it would make stuff easier on everyone

[slim jackal]

just checked I luckily already have the online achievements for 2016 just need the snap map stuff

[low bronze]

nice

[neon shard]

Starting my proper Nightmare run of TAG1 now 🔥

[storm eagle]

gl!

[neon shard]

Thank you ^^

[low bronze]

im gonna attempt to beat the holt tomorrow. Im just gonna mess around tonight.

[storm eagle]

Use the jump pads to your advantage and really keep moving more than usual during UAC Atlantica especially. Meathook and ballista boost if you can. Don't forget your flame belch to restack armor. Use the shield when you fall to prevent extra damage

throw grenades in between weapon firing as well

[storm eagle]

Precision bolt and/or ballista headshots will be your friend in that level.

[low bronze]

mhm! Figured that out. Im stuck on the part thats the final arena in horde mode

[storm eagle]

ahhh Horde Mode

[low bronze]

I love horde mode

[storm eagle]

Here's a video a crazy friend of mine did

https://youtu.be/uAurKF33oCA?si=TFiBScZvl5csESmR

[low bronze]

that title scares me

[storm eagle]

and yes I said crazy friend instead of crazy video lol. He's cracked at everything

[low bronze]

Impressive damn

[storm eagle]

yeah he's an og

He's also an actual genius and it translates well into gaming. He discovered a lot of the tech people use in Eternal

Best b-hopper ever also

[low bronze]

nice!

[austere bronze]

that's like the one thing i get really jealous of when i watch someone else play

sylar's bhopssss

[neon shard]

Same

Beat the UAC Atlantica Facility 🔥

I love this UAC Rig menu background, the perfect reward

This level always takes an hour to beat lol, and I did the slayer gate as well so it definitely went up

[pastel lagoon]

currently on the doom hunter boss fight oh my god its such a pain having to redo it again

[neon shard]

Oof. Which technique are you using to beat it?

[pastel lagoon]

just sprayin w plasma then comboing w super shotty and rocket launcher, those are my best weapons currently

i use shotty and rocket launcher when theyre shields break

[neon shard]

I forgot but, you have the ice bomb right?

[pastel lagoon]

yea, i use that too

[neon shard]

Nice

[pastel lagoon]

and the frag

[neon shard]

Blood Punch of its sled as well?

[pastel lagoon]

it might just be a matter of skill issue

[pastel lagoon]

i cant really get close to it without being incinerated so i just play range except for when i use the ice bomb

[neon shard]

Good, I recommend freezing him, blood punch and then drop frags on him. After that pull the classic rocket launcher lock on if you have access to that

[pastel lagoon]

ok, but i decided i wanted to change some of the upgrades i got for my weapons this playthrough, i got the detonate mid air and its alright

[neon shard]

Remote Detonate is such a big change from 2016 tbh, it used to have a really unique utility but now it's kinda eh

[pastel lagoon]

its good for when i miss my shots cuz i dont have the best accuracy

[neon shard]

If Remote Detonate stayed the same in Eternal it would've been the greatest way of defeating Pain Elementals ngl, cuz of the double shot (one for the Lost Souls, one for the Pain Elemental)

[neon shard]

Fair enough, I like using it on fodder after they've grouped up

[pastel lagoon]

same

[austere bronze]

easily the best thing with remote detonation is its faltering abilities

makes it great at crowd control

[pastel lagoon]

fr

[austere bronze]

that's pretty expensive fodder clear

[neon shard]

I like the feel of it

If there's a bunch of zombies, I'll freeze them, burn, and then take them all out with either a rocket burst or a sticky bomb

[neon shard]

True that

[pastel lagoon]

yo thanks for the suggestion i killed the twats

[neon shard]

Hell yeah! No problem

[hollow pendant]

Remote detonate main thing is soft falter that 2016 version didnt have iirc and utilities to get rid of specifics, its a situational tool. Like lost souls shielding a pain elemental because they also function to shield a frontal full loaded chain saw prompting a nice "invalid target" and get fisted when trying.

For fodder grouping I rather nade and flame belch or sticky bombs when no nades for armor refill. I mostly have LoB equipped because its undeniably OP to insta kill 3 types of heavies. So its just better to send a couple sticky bombs than swapping mod to aim and deto a rocket for fodder alone

[hollow pendant]

May I suggest on your next doom hunters to toss a nade to falter, dash in for blood punch and ssg the sled. LoB will finish the job right after for a GK. You could add a ballista shot after ssg so he dies to LoB.

[pastel lagoon]

well the doom hunters will be easier to kill now thanks to the ballista but i will try it out! thanks for the suggestion

this might be a dumb question, but do yall know whats up about the chainsaw. sometimes it lets me cut through heavy demons, sometimes not. whats up with that?

just curious about how it seems to cut or not cut heavy demons randomly

[austere bronze]

you need 3 pips to chainsaw a heavy

[pastel lagoon]

ohh ok

thanks

[tall gate]

halp
any idea why can't I play with a controller enabled & plugged in (PS5 controller if it matters) no matter what option I edit?

[jagged wind]

On steam?

[real holly]

how it feels to save 3 whole pips for a singular pain elemental

[jagged wind]

Or a cyber manc

[real holly]

pain elemental is so unique bc of how isolated they are from the other enemies purely on the fact they can fly

and are decently tanky

[jagged wind]

One of my faves is pain elemental

[real holly]

im always mixed on pain elementals, i think their good but they annoy me

[jagged wind]

The possessed elemental in the horde mode is the worst when they have a marauder chasing you too

[austere bronze]

so satisfying

sometimes it can make an arena so much easier

[real holly]

true

[tall gate]

oh sorry for not specifing, yes Steam

[real holly]

idk when ur fighting any enemy on the ground you feel like the arenas ur playground but with the pain elemental it genuinely demands your attention in a way that disallows you to add it to your playground of an arena

aerial AND tanky?

[tall gate]

aaaaand that's when the double Arbalast enters the chat :D

instant deletion with 2 maybe 3 shots

[real holly]

closest a heavy demon gets to being a super heavy

[tall gate]

oh, forgot, a fully charged Destroyer Blade will cut through them like a hot knife thru warm butter

[real holly]

ofc, but notice how you had to switch to a particular weapon mod and give the pain elemental your undivided attention while the rest of the arena tried shoots you down?

[jagged wind]

Sometimes I have to do full window mode or whatever. Especially if I am playing L4D. But I use an xbox controller. The windows and full screen thing could work.

[real holly]

actually no, the full destroyer blade doesn't one shot pain elementals

[tall gate]

that's my default start for the 4? P.E's that spawns in Super Gore Nest ML

0.o weird I remember it killing them

but granted the last time I played that map was aaaall the way back in 2020

[real holly]

ofc with enough health drained, any number of d blades work

like you can do double d blade on a pack of mancubi and it will kill them, but not just one

a good use for the airblest is in master levels when there's hordes of cacodemons

it's an instant kill for the target and instant stagger for nearby cacos, and it helps that they usually end up in a close knit group

[jagged wind]

Mars Core Master level is a great example of that when all them cacos spawn

[pastel lagoon]

mars core lowk my favourite level

[deft harbor]

I don’t find a lobby in battlemode on Xbox one

Why

[drowsy wedge]

multiplayer is dead

[jagged wind]

Its the best eternal level

[pastel lagoon]

fr

[upbeat dirge]

final sin lwk my favourite level (in the base game)

[neon shard]

Final Sin is amazing

Feels straight outta the Doom II cover art

[upbeat dirge]

fr

[austere bronze]

based!

[pastel lagoon]

prolly my second fav, the entire level was such a great place to end off the base campaign

[real holly]

mars core ml my favorite ml

super gore nest would be on par if the good heavy music actually stayed throughout the whole level and it didn't just disappear after the claustrophobic tyrant/carcass/doom hunter arena

[signal dune]

Hello

[willow cove]

If we are picking favourite levels in base game, i gotta go with doom hunter base and super gore nest

It is just back to back epiceness

[pastel lagoon]

im currently at the arc complex and there lies the best music in the game icl

[drowsy wedge]

yeah i think arc complex might be my favorite mission just for the music alone

and youre at such a perfect place power wise where you arent fully OP yet but you still have all the fundamentals and the game just feels really good at that point

and the fights in that mission are quite enjoyable

[pastel lagoon]

ong

[drowsy wedge]

before things start going off the wall ridiculous

[pastel lagoon]

personally i would say that it is the best part of the campaign, cuz of the music ofc

also the bits where the chaos dies down slightly and the music fully blasts is just

[jagged wind]

Arc complex is pure fun

[pastel lagoon]

frfr

cant really go wrong

with it

[neon shard]

So fr, the Mars Core track is amazing

[pastel lagoon]

i forgotten what that track sounds like lol

which is weird considering i like it so much

[mortal pecan]

yeah I really wish they had repeated that track in Final Sin instead of the Hell on Earth one

Either track would work just as well there, I think somebody just misjudged which one people would like to hear a second time

[pastel lagoon]

same, if that track had made its way into final sin, i feel like the ending wouldve been more epic

[late atlas]

What is extra life mode and how do I get it

[pastel lagoon]

i think its just a normal campaign except you have 1 lif but can get a lit of 1 ups

i havent checked it out personally yet

isnt it out on default? i thought you didnt have to unlock it

[late atlas]

I'm trying to get the achievement

[formal plover]

I beat the Blood swamps in doom eter Tag 1

[agile bluff]

I can’t get past one jump

It’s killing me

[real holly]

ngl, over time i changed this very opinion I used to have and nowadays i think hell on earth is fire as a first level theme and fits for a final level theme

1. It's the same music as the first level, cool callback
2. Arc complex was about expressing the mythos of the Slayer in a way, how the only thing they fear is him (you) as he fought through the ruins of the human resistances strongest fortification (he is the one who can stand up while the other's couldn't) while Final Sin is basically the Icon of Sin and The Slayer crash landing on some random city on Earth and having one last gang war, idk Hell on Earth song fits that a bit better than the sheer magic of the only thing they fear is you

personally doe, i wouldn't have minded more than one theme, like throwing arc complex or super gore nest in there for callbacks to your adventure would have been cool

[normal jay]

Anyone else waiting for doom eternal deluxe edition to go on sale?

[prime spear]

[mortal pecan]

Yeah, Mars Core does that and they coulda done it elsewhere

[real holly]

exactly

[prime spear]

I cant be the only one who discrimates all super heavy demons

[neon shard]

How was it?

[neon shard]

Real!

[neon shard]

It's the last moment before the super heavies are introduced, which makes you feel so powerful

Taras Nabad is then the point of being humbled

[neon shard]

I think it would be cool if they pulled a The Well on us, having each major arena play a different theme from the Hell on Earth levels as a callback

Maybe The Only Thing They Fear Is You for the office tower area, and Super Gore Nest for the rooftop Marauder

[neon shard]

I do think Mars Core takes it a bit too far by introducing Super Gore Nest during the final encounters, odd that they didn't use Mars Core for the actual Mars core

[neon shard]

My top 5 would probably be

1. Nekravol - Part II
2. ARC Complex
3. Final Sin
4. Taras Nabad
5. Cultist Base

Those levels are perfection, and they are introduced in the story at the perfect moments

The vibes I mean

Nekravol - Part II for the pure comfort gameplay and beauty of the enviroments and ambience
ARC Complex for the OST, skyline and brutal arenas
Final Sin for the pure madness and Doom II like cityscapes, I love a good skyscraper climb
Taras Nabad for the story, cutscenes, and Marauder and Archvile mania they put you through
And Cultist Base for the amazing progression and creative traps

[gusty ocean]

who invited cultist base gng

super gore nest got robbed

[neon shard]

Cultist Base just makes me happy, I love the creativity

It’s the same kinda comfort I get from Nekravol II, just pure fun

[mortal pecan]

yeah, the sgn track there almost feels like a mistake that got left in
it would have made so much more sense to use the BFG10k track a second time

[gusty ocean]

nekravol II's final arena is absolute pure fire

[neon shard]

I would’ve done Mars Core as the final encounter track, just makes the most sense. But yeah, it really does feel weird

[mortal pecan]

every level is my favourite. All the design in this game is so good 😄

[neon shard]

Fighting the baron in that arena is so peak, the Tyrant intro jump is also crazy to witness

[gusty ocean]

i wont complain much since sgn is probably my favorite track from eternal besides blood swamps but yea it doesn't fit

[real holly]

that would be cool too

[neon shard]

Another note about Nekravol II, I love how they manage to squeeze in every color imaginable

[graceful current]

just another music issue with eternal :p

[neon shard]

It’s like the Necropolis in that sense, pure fun with crazy lighting

[gusty ocean]

mine is

1. ARC Complex
2. Mars Core
3. SGN
4. Nekravol (both but II is probably better)
5. Doom Hunter Base

[neon shard]

Valid af

I love Doom Hunter Base

Might actually beat out Cultist Base but, I like Cultist Bases ost more

[gusty ocean]

sgn - arc complex - mars core might be the best run of levels in like any doom game

[mortal pecan]

I think there'd be, like, plusses and minuses to that
having a "greatest hits" in The Well is kinda cool, but it feels a bit unfocused and it sorta results in Rip and Tear feeling underused across the game. That track could just as easily have carried the entire level.

[gusty ocean]

ALL of the cosmic realm levels - belly of the beast - harbor of souls - ressurection is also up there

although i will admit temple of loramith is probably the weakest

[mortal pecan]

harbour especially

[graceful current]

are we ranking the levels as a whole

[neon shard]

That’s a good question

[graceful current]

and are we counting DLCs

[gusty ocean]

the streak would be extended even further if final battle didn't start with titanslop

[mortal pecan]

I kinda love Lomarith, the encounters can be a bit bland but the atmosphere is soooo good and What Lies Below is my favourite Dark Ages track

[neon shard]

Well, I’m not sure if my opinions on the DLC levels have fully set in yet. Let’s say basegame only

[gusty ocean]

what lies below is underrated af ngl

and the last encounters are peak

[gusty ocean]

if we're counting DLCs then i gotta include blood swamps

95% bc of the track

[neon shard]

Oh Blood Swamps is peak

I said it before but, Blood Swamps nearly had me humming just as much as ARC Complex

[viscid marten]

I’m not a fan of the ancient gods levels. They’re too long, sometimes too tough, and overall feel like chores sometimes

[gusty ocean]

10% bc of buffed marauder

another 10% bc of fighting 2 barons at the same time

[neon shard]

I agree to an extent, I think a level like UAC Atlantica Facility does too much

[gusty ocean]

and -15% bc of the boxes

[neon shard]

At least inside the destroyed facility segment

Now that place drags

The Blood Swamps feel quite balanced at a higher level but, there are some moments of time wasted

[graceful current]

If you ignore the story then TAG 1 is the best run of levels in the game

[gusty ocean]

when replaying uac atlantica some areas really reminded me of argent energy tower

[neon shard]

The Holt deserves to be grand, I do think the Samur boss fight drags it down a bit

[gusty ocean]

js something i wanted to point out

[neon shard]

It really does yeah

The bridge segment

[gusty ocean]

especially

[neon shard]

Both levels drag due to their layout

Even if both are equally beautiful

[prime spear]

I suck so much at tag2 nightmare😭

[neon shard]

That’s another great thing about Nekravol 2, it perfected the tower format imo

[gusty ocean]

blood maykrs are peepee poopoo (might just be me)

[prime spear]

Its not just you

[neon shard]

Arguably so, I kinda agree

[gusty ocean]

the rest is pretty great

samur is peepee but not so poopoo

[neon shard]

I love the Blood Maykr, except for the aoe slowness…

[gusty ocean]

the 2nd to last segment with the blood maykrs is peepee poopoo tho

[neon shard]

I really dislike aoe damage, that’s why the Cybermanc annoys me so much

[prime spear]

samur pisses me off because the blood makyrs are just on you and going to the ground to fight him is a massive disadvantage because of the constant damage so I think samur boss fight is a pain in the ass but afterwards you get tag2 which was absolute cinema

[neon shard]

What annoys me about Samur is the fact you barely fight him

[prime spear]

Yeah I'm just fighting the blood makyrs

[neon shard]

It’s more of a battle against a Blood Maykr, some aoe eyes, and 2 spirit pets

[prime spear]

Exactly

[neon shard]

Samur is just kinda there

Which sure, fits the character

But it isn’t that enjoyable to me

[prime spear]

Its like a cacodemon compared to the elemental

[neon shard]

Speaking of which…

Why the hell does Samur control demons 💀

[prime spear]

Oh yeah

[gusty ocean]

true what

[neon shard]

It’s like Davoth with his hounds

It just… doesn’t make sense

[viscid marten]

yeah…

[graceful current]

TAG 2 suuuucks bro

[viscid marten]

They gotta be some hell variant, like the wintherin in Immora

[neon shard]

I thought the whole conflict in The Holt was having 2 parts fighting to remove a demon pest, not one of them teaming up with said demons

[prime spear]

I feel like samur is more underwhelming then the dark lord boss fight after that massive build-up in Immora. I swear going into the boos fight I though it was going to be a Marvel final showdown type fight until it was just a 1v1

[prime spear]

TAG2 was ok I admit but I lowkey enjoyed the start of immora so much for some reason

[gusty ocean]

same

[neon shard]

I like all the main levels in TAG2, I think the general vibe is a bit off tho

[prime spear]

Yeah like I don't see how a armored futuristic baron is just chilling in a medieval village

[viscid marten]

It feels kind of meh…I don’t like the whole slayer primeval thing and jsut “here! Suffer in these combat encounters! Enjoy your day!”

[neon shard]

The Cyberbaron is very odd

[prime spear]

yeah

[neon shard]

I love fighting it but, damn is it weird

[viscid marten]

Anyone relate to this?

[neon shard]

I dislike the primeval thing as well

[viscid marten]

I can just refuse to accept that as canon, right?

[neon shard]

That’s what I do

The Doom Slayer is just a guy

[prime spear]

I think the combat encounters just push you for the reward for doing the harder ones

[viscid marten]

My doom canon: Samuel isn’t samur, Doomguy isn’t a primeval, and TAG never happened

[prime spear]

yeah

[neon shard]

My headcanon is:

Samuel Hayden is Samur, but more in a possessed sense

[prime spear]

I lowkey just realized after doing the campaign and completing some of it (including icon of sin) the game just gives you everything in tag

[neon shard]

Like he was still head of the UAC and went to university and blah blah, but then he got infused with the Seraphim’s mind

[prime spear]

Samuel is lowkey just a traitor

[neon shard]

Yeah

[viscid marten]

The samur reveal feels like smth out of Percy Jackson

You know?

[prime spear]

holy shit your right

[viscid marten]

It’s like: “Welcome back! Here’s a refresher to catch you up.”

[prime spear]

For real

[viscid marten]

I suppose that works

[neon shard]

I love the cancer backstory of Hayden, it just feels right

[prime spear]

Lowkey the Samuel life is just going through an entire multiverse because how do we know there were stilll universities that didn't teach about hell and other types of stuff like that

[viscid marten]

My canon still stands.
Samur sounds like Samuel, and Samuel is completely different. Perhaps they somehow figured out maykr tech and reverse engineered it to make his body

[neon shard]

Imagine if they made Olivia Pierce the Witch or smth stupid like that

Would make her condition meaningless

[prime spear]

Lowkey if you think about it, doesn't Samur and Samuel look kind of alike in certain ways?

[viscid marten]

Yeah, the central blue eye and whatnot

[neon shard]

Also TAG is so funny because like, there are so many other Seraphim angels 😭😭😭😭

[prime spear]

fr

[viscid marten]

I also personally think that Vega was imbued with a fraction of the father in his creation

[prime spear]

Vega is the goat

[viscid marten]

yeah, they fucked up everything in TAG

[neon shard]

We love VEGA

[viscid marten]

Except the intern

[neon shard]

I really fw the idea of Ingmore Sanctum

[viscid marten]

hm

[neon shard]

And The Holt

[prime spear]

Bro the part where they infused Vega to the machinery (I think in SGN or Complex base) in the campaign I was lowkey crying

[neon shard]

Wdym?

[prime spear]

When vega connected or like infused itself into the machinery in one of the campaign levels

Sad as hell departing

[neon shard]

Oh yeah, Urdak 😔

The fact Hayden just ignored him 💀

[prime spear]

Samuel lowkey hit up with some "Okay now that Vega's gone go save me and replace vega with me, and then give me a trong ass body so I can rule the world."

strong*

[neon shard]

I wish VEGA wasn’t actually the father, and more like a foreign operating system running on a godlike computer, that would make his turn to madness in The Holt even better

This is such a random shout but, Hydraxon from Bionicle does something similar

He isn’t aware that he’s only a clone of someone else

[formal plover]

W

[viscid marten]

I don’t cry in scenes of a game, movie, or show because I know it’s all pretend. I don’t know why, but I want to.

[graceful current]

VEGA being God was good but Samuelphim sucked

[viscid marten]

Anyone else get me?

[graceful current]

I used to not cry at media but now I do a lot

I’m not sure if it’s cause I got older or just more sensitive lol

or I just started watching/reading/playing better stuff haha

[viscid marten]

I wanna get hit in the feels

[prime spear]

I didn't actually cry, it was just an emotional scene

I just realized i have every right to say the Dark Lord was the most underwhelming dog shit boss in DOOM eternal

[viscid marten]

I get that

[prime spear]

Weeping is lowkey for the people who LOVE Vega.

LOVE LOVE vega

[viscid marten]

ofc

[simple holly]

It's kinda the same thing where you find something funny, but you don't laugh at it.

[prime spear]

Yeah kinda like that

Yeah entirely like that

Speaking of funny, does anyone else find that time where the UAC lady in the final sin said "Can you demons just kill this guy already?"

[viscid marten]

Bro was getting tired of it

[viscid marten]

The demons: “BUT HES TOO STRONG PLEASE HES SO SCARY HELP US-“

[simple holly]

Oh yeah I remember that

[low bronze]

I want to write lore behind that lady tbh

[simple holly]

Probably just some rich person in a UAC bunker.

[low bronze]

yes, the true evil

the rich

[simple holly]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

[prime spear]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-gif-23805674

So tuff

[viscid marten]

Yes

[prime spear]

Lwokey after the dark ages dropped all connection with Battlemode for eternal was severed and all connections were erased

[viscid marten]

Real

[prime spear]

Like I swear not even spicy demons can help me

[graceful current]

yeah nothing in doom is rly cry worthy lol

[prime spear]

fair enough

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-slayer-taunt-doom-gif-5228825785991726881

new victory animation

[formal plover]

Sonion

[formal plover]

U

[storm eagle]

What are you talking about?

And why

This is the Doom Eternal channel

[astral hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/anton-chigurh-no-country-for-old-men-ok-oops-javier-bardem-gif-10579690

[storm eagle]

If you know, then you should know not to ask that here. Or in any of the channels preferably

[low bronze]

anyhow...

[storm eagle]

Read the server rules

[low bronze]

im thinking of like attempting to draw a like... what was it again?

[storm eagle]

Read the rules or you can go do this in a different server

[low bronze]

trying to draw a decent doom hunter headshot becaus ei love those guys

stop asking

[low bronze]

or maybe do that thing i was thinking of. Drawing a doom hunter but woth like cultist goat legs.

[storm eagle]

Looks like your stay here will be a brief one

[storm eagle]

#artwork please

[low bronze]

oh sorry man

my brain is foggy

[storm eagle]

nw

If you're going to join a server you could read the rules like everyone else does

and not spam bullshit

[drowsy wedge]

comes into a channel clearly labeled for X discussion and starts talking about random shit
damn you guys too serious

[storm eagle]

anyways

Rot is gone

[drowsy wedge]

that was fun

[storm eagle]

ugh vega

[low bronze]

yes?

[storm eagle]

not you lol

[low bronze]

oh

[drowsy wedge]

lmao hilarious coincidence of who was talking in here at the time

[storm eagle]

was trying to purge the dumb convo but the bot is down

whatev

[jolly hedge]

2 peole in s server are saying doom is ass, but there mods. what do i do?

they are*

[storm eagle]

Who is saying that?

[jolly hedge]

2 mods

[storm eagle]

Which ones?

[jolly hedge]

not in this sever

[drowsy wedge]

[jolly hedge]

they said that ultrakill is "better"

[storm eagle]

Well, I wouldn't talk about Doom in that server then. Just hang out in this one to talk about Doom

[drowsy wedge]

you can move on with your life not caring about what other people think

[storm eagle]

this

[jolly hedge]

ok👍

[drowsy wedge]

its just a video game you can enjoy whatever video game you like and they can enjoy whatever video game they like

your enjoyment is not tied to how many other people agree with your opinion

[storm eagle]

Gemini spittin facts

[low bronze]

real

also need a tip for the samur and dark lord fights. I am DREADING them because im on the last level of both parts of the dlcs

anyhting will help

[drowsy wedge]

dark lord is just a patience tester tbh

just dont lose your mind while you wait for him to do the only thing that lets you hurt him

the mechanics of the fight are quite simple you just have to not get tilted while he keeps not doing the green attack

[low bronze]

sounds about right from what i remember

anything for samur?

[drowsy wedge]

idk i hate that fight

[low bronze]

real

i don't even blame you man

[gusty ocean]

its the final bossfight so uhh

dont even care bout anything and unload ur whole unmaykr ammo on the goddamn pain elemental

[graceful current]

samur's is more about juggling enemies than worrying about attacks

[glossy elm]

Why does doom eternal have NO animations for the berserk like did they run out of money or just too lazy to make more?

[drowsy wedge]

game could be the best ever made and theres still gonna be people finding random shit to complain about

[graceful current]

actually to complain about beserk a bit more

the fact theres only 1 in the main campaign is dumb lol

[gusty ocean]

freaking doom the dark ages has more berserk powerups

actually it might have more powerup pickups in general

[real holly]

eternals berserk always felt like a cinematic setpiece bc it's literally holding forward and pressing attack

im glad they didn't use it that much, TDAs berserk is better bc there's actual risk and the gameplay loop stays way more line

on another note, did the holt deathless again with the Slayer gate and everything and i tried dedicating airblest to the possessed pain elemental and it actually worked, idk why i never really tried it by itself. I'd usually mix it with lob

it's all about dodging the possesed attacks the pain elemental will throw at you while spamming the airblest

i find it funny how in only this arena the possesed dread knight has like crazy immunity to the lob

it can kill him but nowhere near as fast as a normal possesed dread knight

[elder raft]

Actually never thought about using arbalest against the Pain Elemental there. Should try that actually

[real holly]

it works like a charm if you hit your shots and attentively dodge the Possesed pain elementals attacks

i literally only realized this now lol

[elder raft]

I usually just weapon swap everything except ballista or plasma cannon to keep enough energy to kill the spirit as well. Now that i think about it, the spirit doesn't really have anyone else to possess once you kill it

[real holly]

if you wait long enough another pain elemental will spawn