doom-eternal

[jolly kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1498584300780523601/maraudergetsabsolutelydestroyed.mp4?ex=69f1b0e3&is=69f05f63&hm=6ed965a2c3044bc21a30541a498b7213de2ff4300defde2ef136d3118f62582f&

[somber mauve]

Does someone want to help with the bloodbath trophy today?

[low bronze]

DAMN! Bro didn't even have a minute to Blink!

[austere bronze]

skill roof is amazing for sure

the more you learn the more you realise there is to learn lol

i've changed my perception of what the theoretical skill ceiling (don't think anyone will ever reach it) is so many times

and i did it again recently despite having 2k hours at this point

[thorny hatch]

Hii fellas, i wanted to know, is there any good tutorial video on Yt about combos for each demon? I remember there were so sick good videos but right now i cant fin anyone

[drowsy wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxYTaTVzBNo

i used these to learn

[thorny hatch]

Ty

i will check it

[drowsy wedge]

you can also just search doom eternal combos on youtube and get plenty of good videos

[harsh osprey]

Gladiator is like marauder on roids in my opinion

[ivory leaf]

Attempting TAG 2 at UN and its much easier than the Base Campaign after 149 tries. Probably because I got all the weapons and stuff already instead of unlocking everything over 3 missions

[harsh osprey]

TAG 2 was very easy compared to TAG 1 fighting samur was hell and not to even mention the fact that it made you fight a possessed tyrant and a doom hunter at the same time in the holt oh and the slayer gate (which is optional but I’m a glutton for pain) makes you a fight a possessed marauder

[ivory leaf]

I'm at my first attempt in front of the first escalation encounter

[harsh osprey]

Most I’ve done is was hurt me plenty but it was my first play through of eternal I might do an ultra violence next because hurt me plenty was way too easy for me I only died a few times (mostly to archviles) but I learned from those

[ivory leaf]

Same but I sometimes switched to too young to die. Now I have completed Arc Complex Master Level, everything in Super Gore Nest Master Level excelt UN and completed Horde Mode in Nightmare

Compared to last year when I first got the games I improved by a lot and I am proud of it

[harsh osprey]

I never switched I was tempted to just put down the controller during samurs final phase but I just ended up using sentinel armor because I was sick of it I did also do it with no extra lives tho

[ivory leaf]

The possessed Pain Elemental and Dread Knight were pure cancer to me

[harsh osprey]

And I also only died once during the icon of sin but that was mostly due to the fact the he summoned an ungodly amount of pain elementals

[harsh osprey]

So real

[jolly kernel]

reached Mars Core. man the difference in difficulty between the first 3-4 levels and the ones after them on nightmare are insane

I can say the same with Doom 2016

[ivory leaf]

Cultist Base is probably the most difficult. You dont have all weapons yet, you have weapon points for only one weapon and you dont have that much stuff unlocked.

Well its to me the most difficult one

[harsh osprey]

I started playing 2016 because it was only 4 dollars in the e shop on the switch note that I only play on the switch because I’m a broke bitch but then I got eternal and I don’t feel like going back to 2016 because the combat system is so different I’m a major meat hook addict

[jolly kernel]

it objectively is, I lost like 4 lives in that level

[harsh osprey]

In my opinion it gets easy after you get the SSG I can easily say the SSG is my most used weapon I rarely do combos

[ivory leaf]

Same about the price I saw the games on sale and thought "Why not give it a try and see what the hype is so about" and here I am not able to play any other game

[harsh osprey]

So real

I also bought the stalker trilogy but I like the fast combat in doom so much more

[ivory leaf]

I just love the gore in the newer games

[jolly kernel]

once you get to super gore nest it all becomes smooth sailing

[ivory leaf]

Yep. You have nearly everything except BFG and Crucible

[harsh osprey]

I’ve already logged over thirty hours in eternal

[ivory leaf]

Lemme take a look at my time

12 days and 20 hours

[harsh osprey]

I only use those when I really need to such as when there’s a massive hoard or if I don’t wanna deal with a tanky demon

[harsh osprey]

Gah damn

[ivory leaf]

I mean I got the games in april so exactly a year ago

And then I have entered my MGSV Phase in fall

[harsh osprey]

I bough them because I liked watching the videos on em and they were dirt cheap copped both of the modern games on the switch for under $30

[ivory leaf]

Welp. Just died to a whiplash

[harsh osprey]

I hate whiplashes so much I mostly freeze them when I can

A lob can kill them pretty easily

But I don’t have infinite rockets unless I’m in overdrive

[austere bronze]

i honestly don't like freezing whiplashes

i feel like they have so little hp it's not worth it

[ivory leaf]

I am at attempt 4 now and I am at the escalation encounter in mission 2

Nvm

[quiet cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1161337625718833253/1498759979014950963/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter_1.gif

u can also lwk just headshot with pb ballista

and ssg or rocket

[neon shard]

Lfg, I beat the Dark Lord on Nightmare 🙏

That fight can take so long, took ages for him to blink green

[jolly kernel]

the Arachnotron looks like it's making that Speed meme face

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/651497681910366209/1498804143459012629/image.png?ex=69f27da2&is=69f12c22&hm=8c9761720b30fd0a31901485716dc6fa246be9a16749d4762adf35de84411978&

[neon shard]

Lmfao

Do you guys prefer Weapon Bob on or off, and why?

[sudden sequoia]

on bc it looks stupid when off

[unique sandal]

hola gente estoy buscando personas para jugar el battlemode de doom eternal por los trofeos alguien me puede ayudar?

[twin umbra]

On
it's looks a little silly when it's on off lol

[low bronze]

chat what support rune should i choose?

[neon shard]

I like the one with weak point aoe damage

I believe that was what it did

[hallow eagle]

Who do y’all think is the most CONSISTENTLY annoying character in Doom Eternal.

[tame violet]

samuel hayden because I hate him

[hallow eagle]

What does he even do he just sucks

[tame violet]

all he know is complain and cause problems

[graceful current]

the intern

[quiet cloud]

All are trash except the life steal one and that one is useless in unm runs

Just use the weak point one and forget

[austere bronze]

i think break blast is pretty neat

[austere bronze]

pretty sure i play with it off

[quasi schooner]

best game

[low bronze]

the holt on ultra violence is kicking my ASS

[upbeat dirge]

that arena with 3 barons is insane😭

[low bronze]

I had to stop for my sanity.

I'll pick that lv up later when I'm not mentally puffed.

[upbeat dirge]

its okay to stop, ive struggled with it on nightmare for the first time too.

[low bronze]

Oh I FEAR when I play this game on nightmare. I'm fishing the dlc on ultra violence before i do the campaign and ldc on nightmare. Alredy finished UV campaign.

I want to start the second part of the dlc without finishing the current part

i love reclaimed earth

[upbeat dirge]

just keep in mind that nightmare is a big difficulty spike, the damage on UV is 100%, the damage on nightmare is 200%.

[upbeat dirge]

that is kinda a hot-take

reclaimed earth is in my opinion better than the world spear and immora. but still worse than the holt and blood swamps.

[low bronze]

Reclaimed just feels right to me

also I LOVE the look

[quiet cloud]

play on ultra voilence to have a fun and easy time killing demons ? ❌
play on nm and cope cause u dont have the skill for it ? ✅

i have a couple of vids for the holt mission in medal on nm difficulty

if u want then i can lwk give them to u

[storm eagle]

If this is an attempt to be helpful, it doesn't come across that way.

[quiet cloud]

i was tryna be funny

[storm eagle]

ok glad it wasn't fr

[quiet cloud]

not at all serious

[storm eagle]

there used to be a guy in here when everytime someone would complete any difficulty he would say "Now do it on UN"

He's gone now lol

[quiet cloud]

i mean we all went through the stage of having a serious skill issue in tag 1 and 2

so i was making a joke about that

[quiet cloud]

lol

[low bronze]

Ew

but like the part im stuck on is the arena thats used in horde mode as the final area of the mode

[storm eagle]

Me still sometimes lol

[low bronze]

Me too

I'm getting better tho

Not much but theres a difference

[quiet cloud]

i mean just beat both dlcs and arc complex and super gore nest ml on um and u will see how much u can improve in like 1 week

hot take but tag1 and 2 are easier to unm than the main campaign

[low bronze]

I don't think I will be attempting that.

[quiet cloud]

why not

[low bronze]

Because thats not something I plan to do. I know my skill set.

I can't even beat the first level on UN.

[quiet cloud]

not with that attitude

theres mutiple skill cellings in the game

first one is reached after u beat the dlcs on nm

then after u beat a couple of master levels on nm

then obv world spear and tarus nabad ml

[austere bronze]

i think that’s more like skill levels, since the skill ceiling is the same for all

but i don’t think your skill level is dictated by what you’ve accomplished

[quiet cloud]

ye thats what i meant

dont fully agree with u on the second part but alr

[swift hare]

Now say that in ultra nightmare

JK LMAO

[upbeat dirge]

😔

[jolly kernel]

if the super heavy demons like Doom Hunter, Marauder, Tyrant and Baron were killable with the chainsaw, how do you guys think their kill animations would look?

[quiet cloud]

like they did in doom 2016

cause u could chainsaw the baron in that game

[lime bear]

Omg

I didn't know there was a Doom server

[clear holly]

Probably as sdthegoat said.
Or same one with blade would be done with chainsaw.

[swift hare]

Ik it's not true but I imagine the slayer pulling out a giant chainsaw for the tyrant😭

[upbeat dirge]

yeah, its pretty cool i guess...

[lime bear]

You guess😑

[upbeat dirge]

i guess 8.
is it the right number?

[lime bear]

What do you mean?

[upbeat dirge]

you said that i need to guess. i guess 8.

enrique

[quiet cloud]

pov : ur mom calls u out by ur full name lmfao

felt weird

[upbeat dirge]

why do you need to chainsaw a tyrant or baron if you have a crucible.

[lime bear]

Nevermind

[upbeat dirge]

you were cooking up an insane message😭

[lime bear]

Maybe

[upbeat dirge]

uhh

🌪️

[jolly kernel]

did they name this level after the autobot from Transformers /J

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1499026917880500294/image.png?ex=69f34d1b&is=69f1fb9b&hm=fe2627b888157936b79b8a88f3bfdce2a45cc4cf6ff92ad94cfb28c23ff2d197&

[elder raft]

Yes. Everything with the word "prime" in it is named after Optimus

[jolly kernel]

no I'm saying that Transformers has an autobot called Sentinel Prime lol

[neon shard]

It has to be a reference, right? I know Hugo likes mecha stuff, so it would make sense

[elder raft]

Probably just a coincidence

[neon shard]

Would be very on brand if it wasn’t

[elder raft]

Maybe. It's possible Hugo saw an oppertunity and took it

[neon shard]

Mhm

[jolly kernel]

on the other hand I know that Painkiller is a common word but could the name for that Pain Elemental glory kill challenge be a reference to the game?

[neon shard]

Why is everyone being hacked all of a sudden 😭

<@&162901871168585728>

[arctic sedge]

Doom eternal
look inside
game has an ending

[upbeat dirge]

a little question,
what is the hardest master level???
please answer... please...

[quiet cloud]

world spear

tarus nabad is pretty hard too cause of certain segments if ur not gonna use super weapons

but they both are def the most fun experiences that u can have in eternal

[elder raft]

Easy. World Spear

[upbeat dirge]

not counting dlc? please.

[quiet cloud]

tarus nabad then

[elder raft]

Super gore nest or taras nabad then

[quiet cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/heh-huh-what-gif-27102828

since when is super gore nest ml difficult ?

[upbeat dirge]

so this means that ive played the hardest ml first...

[elder raft]

It's always been fairly difficult. First arena throws alot at you. There's one arena there you're locked with 2 marauders. Another with like 3 archviles

[neon shard]

Taras Nabad ML has the downside of having very buggy Marauders in my experience

[upbeat dirge]

they were not buggy

for me atleast

[neon shard]

I love some of the arenas tho, the first large one with the Maykrs is a masterpiece

[quiet cloud]

i mean not for me
i did that shit first try somehow

on ultra nm

[elder raft]

Then you have a skilled issue. You being very good at the game doesn't mean it's easy

[quiet cloud]

nah i struggled a whole lot on my tarus nabad run
especially on the archville room

[elder raft]

Yeah that one is difficult too

It could depend

[quiet cloud]

true ig

[arctic sedge]

archviles MIGHT be worse than getting hit by a car ngl

[quiet cloud]

my reaction when i see a archville

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-eternal-gif-26362427

[polar sable]

I beat horde mode just now for the first time!!! Been playing doom eternal since I was 11 and I'm highkey bad at it and just now beat it at 16 on hurt me plenty mode

[upbeat dirge]

ive just spammed random buttons and beat the archvile room second try, nightmare btw😭

[arctic sedge]

dude i actually thought my discord was broken

[upbeat dirge]

am just an eternal void of dread

[arctic sedge]

yyyyeeeah, whatever you say

[upbeat dirge]

dread?
HOLY DOOM REFERENCE

[clear holly]

Did anyone try to make melee run? And if you tried, which was your upgrade route?
I started melee run on Normal and took some ideas from RK video, but not sure I want to progress exactly like in that video, since I have 2 melee mods on top of it (melee actually deals damage and chainsaw restores all fuel).

I upgraded:

• Crystals: Blood Punch restores on picked up health. Upgraded armor a bit to have stronger protection for health. Next is shorter cooldown for Flame Belch. Next I thought to go for armor restores BP, but not sure, if it's effecient. Maybe magnet upgrade instead or more armor drops from enemies?
• Suit: my 1st one as always faster Dash recharge. Then I got 2 frag grenades upgrade and hopefully next would be faster recharge for frag grenades and ice bomb. Should next one be health drops from frozen enemies?
• Runes: 1st - faster recharge for equipment. 2nd health drops for BP from killed enemies. I don't know about 3rd one - I planned to use longer stagger, but within current gameplay it seems I don't need it much. Maybe Saving Throw? I don't want In-Flight Mobility for sure.
• Weapons: SSG, but can't master until mastery coins (Taras Nabad?). Next would be shield.

Anyone can suggest anything else?

[upbeat dirge]

melee only run is torture

and its probably unbalanced and not fun

[arctic sedge]

new cia torture method

"you must do a Doom Eternal melee run on ultra nightmare"

[upbeat dirge]

imagine vanilla meele only run

[quiet cloud]

no thanks i dont like cbt

melee only here meaning no guns or u can use equipment ?

[clear holly]

It sure would've been super hard without these 2 mods, but increased damage actually allows to 1 hit Zombies/Imps/Tentacles.
And full restoration for Chainsaw means that it's possible to melee heavy once in 60 seconds.

Without these mods I would spend and hour probably trying to get through 1st room, since vanilla damage barely exists.

[quiet cloud]

oh so u CAN use equipment

[clear holly]

All equipment is allowed. I also gave myself option to fight bosses with guns and use guns for switches. But to my surprise Cultist base switches can be easily delt with grenades.

[quiet cloud]

then double frag would be ur best frnd

relistically u dont wanna waste ur coins on more health from frozen enemies too cause ur not gonna be able to kill most while they are frozen

i would lwk save up for longer freeze time

also dont use saving throw pls

ur not gonna find use for it much

dazed and confused would be better

[clear holly]

Thank you very much! Btw, regarding your previous message - how it's better to address you?

Yeah, without equipment some trigger elements just don't work and it would be softlock, plus it may even softlock in some combat areas, since fodder doesn't respawn everywhere. Last fight in cultist base seems to have finite fodder, for example.
Idea with frozen enemies - I kill them with regular melee and grenades restore BP and go hit some heavy enemy. Repeat, when possible.
Yeah, I like Dazed and Confused a lot, but with melee run it seems to be less useful, since most of the time I'm near enemies, anyway, since both melee and grenades have short distance.

[quiet cloud]

lmfao dw about the previous msg its just that my frnds call me by my irl name even in convos so was a weird seeing some1 say my tag

and ye ur right at the end cultist base does have inf fodder

thats so that u can continue into doom hunter base with majority of ammo

also do whatever u feel like ur comfortable with

whatever runes i mean

[clear holly]

Got it! 😅 ❤️
No, it's actually finite, like it ends eventually, unfortunately. After I killed Mancubus I was left with Revenant, Arachnatron and Whiplash only, so was unable even to restore my BP, until killed 1 of them (I already picked all health pickups). But I guess, since player has grenades it's not softlock, so my bad. Edited: but again, without equipment - surely, would be softlock.
I'll try to play with Runes a bit then. I just have no idea how to optimize this build theoretically. It's only my 2nd special run in Eternal and don't know how to approach it without normal/standard progression.

[quiet cloud]

good luck

[austere bronze]

armor for bp is really good especially for your run, if you find that extra armor is laying around semi-often

[austere bronze]

a player who doesn't push for difficult accomplishments could still be really good, and there are examples of such players

[quiet cloud]

good point ig

i just put forth my view

[haughty sequoia]

guys i need help

i havent been playing doom eternal for a LONG time and i wanted to play it again, but when i launched the game i was met with a DEVASTATİNG 40 fps, i didnt change ANYTHİNG about the settings from last time and it used to run on 140 fps, what the FUCK happened to the game

and for some reason i cant connect to bethesda.net in doom eternal or doom + doom 2

[sick yarrow]

why are you using the FUCKING caps lock

[haughty sequoia]

its for dramatic effect

[drowsy wedge]

what the FUCK happened to your computer

[haughty sequoia]

i dont FUCKİNG know

[drowsy wedge]

damn

[haughty sequoia]

so?

does anyone know what happened? and how to fix it?

[verbal crow]

Libations to the dark lord

[haughty sequoia]

does anyone have a legitamate answer?

[verbal crow]

Repair game files on steam, check your drivers, and hard reset (power off) your pc

[haughty sequoia]

ok, let me try it

[clear holly]

Thank you! Would upgrade it next then after Flame Belch cooldown upgrade would be finished.

[jolly kernel]

honestly
I feel like Doom Eternal is no where near as ''restricting and forcing you to use specific tactics'' as people make it out to be
there's definitely cases of that with stuff like the Spirits but it's rather rare

[limber thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/im-back-doom-doom-slayer-doom-eternal-gif-26144054

[verbal crow]

IMO that’s one reason that I think the campaign is a better experience than the DLCs, but it’s really not that bad

[austere bronze]

yeah claims like that stems from not knowing how the combat works

and most people who say that haven't even touched the dlcs where it's actually somewhat true..

[sudden sequoia]

Ur gpu is probably outdated

[haughty sequoia]

someone said they added ray tracing and that i should turn it off

im gonna try that

[arctic sedge]

"i like archvile!"
translating...
"I am the greatest UAC soldier the world has ever seen"

[sudden sequoia]

arch-viles are cool

[winter kelp]

Finally after like 468 hours on doom eternal I finally achieved gold slayer I had gotten aurum and skull face before gold and now I finally have it all

[devout root]

Is there a way to farm weapon points? Im missing like 20 before the final mission despite having done every combat encounter

[real holly]

you need a certain level of playtime and skill to reach this level of freedom so many people don't reach that

[jolly kernel]

serious question: why is this considered one of the most memorable glory kills in the game?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1499179443040551002/whiplashgetsimpaledbyarmbone.mp4?ex=69f3db28&is=69f289a8&hm=1e2f8e4c8cacb245e34b1115af2bafee5d68c0ad366f33697e9d10073e2bcb88&

[last hornet]

Because it's Unique

[hybrid marsh]

that is personally my favorite glory kill

[jolly kernel]

did id remove the milestone for killing just one zombie with the bfg in an update?

[lean musk]

Because i hate whiplash and seeing it suffer makes me happy

[low bronze]

getting implaied by your own arm bone into the mouth is metal af

[jolly kernel]

do you guys find it disappointing that you only max out the blood punch to its full power right in basically the final level?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1499285469773565952/image.png?ex=69f43de7&is=69f2ec67&hm=56f2d40643d10e4b8533e0f070aa511d29f88aad9b40cd00bb74595500fcdff3&

[scenic axle]

Yeah you barely get to use it at all

[upbeat dirge]

that wouldve been unbalanced to give it earlier.
the double bloodpunch was prob given at the last level bc the last level is a huge difficulty spike.

earlier levels are so easy compared to final sin

if you wanna use the double bloodpunch go play TAG1 and TAG2.
they are balanced around having all upgrades.

[scenic axle]

Fair

Still could be disappointing for people that only played the main campaign though

[clear holly]

They should have given normal melee then from the start and other upgrades of BP earlier.
The huge difficulty spike is Urdak.
But I get why they gave it the way they gave it - they decided to give it with defeats of the bosses.

[upbeat dirge]

from when urdak is hard? its much easier than final sin.
giving it in urdak wouldve made it easier than nekravol.

[clear holly]

Urdak is hardest level with "minimalistic/barebones" run with no super weapons, which means regardless of player progression it should be the biggest spike in diffculty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu0ziwUM3Mw
Sure there are also powerups/super weapons pick ups there, but there are just like few items, which could have been easily deleted to show actual increase in difficulty. And same with Final Sin - there are enough pickups for super weapons there. which can make later stages of arena fights easier.

[austere bronze]

urdak gives free health and armor restacking in most of the arenas though

can't really comment on the difficulty of the levels, but i think maykr drones do a lot

[upbeat dirge]

does minimalistic run prohibits quick-swapping??? because in your gameplay you dont quick-switch.

[clear holly]

This is true, but with not proper progression you could easily screw fighting them and at the same time heavies, which chase you.
Point of minimalistic run is to show how barebones balance looks like.

[clear holly]

It doesn't - I just don't quick swap apart from Marauder and don't use hook much. But for better experience - yeah, it's better to ban techs to have better perspective without them.

Skips with meathook are definitely a "no-no".

[autumn dew]

this game is so buggy sometimes

i somehow got stuck in a wall and got killed by a baron

lost my UN run because of it and i was in urdak at that point

[clear holly]

With that said as M1 rightfully mentioned drones - I definitely underused loop of "kill drone - use ammo on strong enemies". Ballista headshot vs them is definitely a way to go on longer distances.

[clear holly]

I got stuck in ARC Complex twice in a wall, but I assume it's related to animations only: 1st time I got stuck during GK, 2nd during elevator animation. So best way to avoid it - not move right after animation for objects and to try to avoid GKs near walls.

[quiet cloud]

ngl i think its actually not that hard cause theres pretty much inf health and ammo

[clear holly]

Hard part is that you don't always have normal access to these drones or run away in circles from heavies. Arenas are mostly very tight with extra obstacles (which protect you from projectiles/enemies, but also make hard to focus on fodder) and there isn't much fodder on average.
But I may say that hardest arena outside of Urdak is probably last fight before Icon of Sin, since there are not many fodder, a lot of heavies and Archvile right after Marauder (and it can spawn with other heavies in arena not being killed).
But "hard" part is always relative. With that said Taras Nabad and Urdak were most noticeable spikes in difficulty during whole run (outside of bosses).

[quiet cloud]

ofc its gonna be hard cause its a barebone run
i remember when i did a barebones run back in 2022 or smth and i didnt struggle on urdak as much as i did on nekraval or certain other missions

[clear holly]

Nekravol to my surprise was easier for me to certain degree. If we exclude spooky Archviles - arenas are relatively fine in terms of sizes/geometry vs amount of heavy enemies/fodder. But yeah, starting from Taras Nabad game is harder: both because of Archviles and amount of heavy enemies already present on average.

That's actually really interesting!
What was hardest part in Nekravol for you?
Also what were the rules of your run? Did you ban techs/powerups/super weapons and other stuff? Did you pickup Heavy Cannon/Chaingun? What was your Crystal upgrade?
My run is not being "purest" test and easier, since I can melee fodder and have chainsaw with restoration for all 3 fuel pips, so I can GK fodder easier and get ammo filled 3 times in short amount of time, so less need to switch weapons vs fodder or run around to wait for fuel to restore.

[quiet cloud]

nekravol's arena with the marauder and arch was a big problem for me cause i always ran out of ammo when i killed the archville and the marauder like 2 shot me afterwards and the one with 2 doom hunters somehow (i sucked at the game back then)
i am pretty sure that i did pick up the heavy cannon and chaingun and i did pick up weapon mods
i didnt use powerups or super weapons or any other upgrades
sentinal crystal was a ammo upgrade
also tbh am a boomer and i dont remember much about what i did in the run cause it was a long time ago . am sure the other levels were just as bad or worse , i just remember struggling on the secret encounters and stuff of nekravol cause i rly like the level

am pretty sure i got softlocked on a part of nekraval too somehow i dont remember how

eternal is truly a game made up of toothpicks and bubblegum

[autumn dew]

yeah i was doing a GK on a gargoyle near a wall, really annoying. i wish they did something about this problem, worst way to lose a UN run

[quiet cloud]

u can restart the last checkpoint if u quit the game using alt f4 in a unm run

idk if u alr know that but i hope it helps

[autumn dew]

i actually tried that before

but for some reason, i have no guns and i cant dash

[quiet cloud]

😭

[autumn dew]

so im just a walking slayer lol

[quiet cloud]

gng wtf

[autumn dew]

exactly my reaction lol

[quiet cloud]

thats new lmfao

[autumn dew]

yeah well it is what it is

have to get through fucking cultist base again ✌️

[quiet cloud]

am pretty sure i have a save for a run just before arc complex

do u want it ?

idk if sharing saves works anymore but its worth a shot

[autumn dew]

nah its fine, thanks tho

i will be taking a break cuz that shit burnt me out

[quiet cloud]

aight

btw i will recemend doing master levels before the unm run

lwk makes u able to survive so much more

[autumn dew]

yea i actually did sgn master level

[quiet cloud]

oh nice

[autumn dew]

world spear was brutal

[quiet cloud]

took me around 20 hours to ultra nm

[autumn dew]

i only made it halfway through ws before quitting

[quiet cloud]

it might be the toughest base game thing

[autumn dew]

damn

[quiet cloud]

[upbeat dirge]

six seven

[quiet cloud]

bro this guy

how to ragebait 101

[autumn dew]

yeah lol

that one open area had those lasers you have to avoid while being harassed by a possessed cyber mancubi

[quiet cloud]

3 lob and 2 blood punches

easy enough to deal with

i think thats how much ammo it takes i might be wrong tho

[autumn dew]

yeah, ill probably rerun that level after UN

[quiet cloud]

do tarus nabad first

just a personal recemendation

[autumn dew]

alr

[clear holly]

Oh, yeah - if you played on UV/Nightmare it would be 100% more torture with how low health/armor is.
Runs with weapon mods are such a relief after no weapon mods runs - made huge difference for me in Doom 2016.
Yeah, I also went for ammo uprade, since I think it's least useful one.
Same with being a boomer.)) But back then in 2022-2023 I played Eternal a lot, so it's a pity I didn't try any of these runs. Currently I only reremember game, especially after Super Gore Nest. But it's also interesting to have sort of "newbie" perspective in such conditions of "everything went south with progression". But probably not picking up weapons/some weapon mods/powerups and not using super weapons is just extra challenge, which isn't very related to this run, since some of these are in plain sight and most players would pick them up, anyway.
I skipped all secret encounters/Slayer Gates and even skipped most fights until Taras Nabad, which can be naturally skipped. I have no idea how to get through Slayer Gates without dying hundred times.

Normal 2016/Eternal experience. I didn't have remarkable softlocks in Eternal (outside of getting stuck rarely), but sometimes had in 2016. Most famous softlocks are closer to end game in VEGA and Argent D'nur - my condolences to those who had them on UN runs. 💀

[clear holly]

I mean, solution can be made simple - to give some sort of thin layer to the walls, which would move player out of the wall in 1 direction of arena. But making it for all walls would be extremely problematic. So I guess, it's just better to avoid GKs near walls, unfortunately.

[quiet cloud]

ye i did play on nm
i also did all slayer gates am pretty sure and i dont think they are as bad as they seem

pretty sure i got arc complex slayer gate on my 2 or 3rd attempt

[austere bronze]

hardest slayer gate is lowkey exultia

or at least it's the most volatile one

[quiet cloud]

the holt slayer gate exists

but for base game ye ig thats the one i would pick too

[austere bronze]

true

[jolly kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1486330069549846628/1499390763400826970/image.png?ex=69f49ff7&is=69f34e77&hm=abdfdce6fb9282f81b6a2398913286d69b83c62dceed85e1f95f3ebd1c7c3d02&

[quiet cloud]

i hate foundry so much bro

[clear holly]

Yeah, Exultia is the hardest in nomral runs, but I think taking first Crystal upgrade for health makes it a bit easier. Have no idea how hard would it be within barebones run, though. Don't have even desire to try for now.

[gaunt smelt]

I keep dying to either the cacos or last arena in Exultia 😭

[quiet cloud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1482494331242938612/1499046998190592051/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

cacos meet arbalest and

sticky bomb

[gaunt smelt]

Buddy I only have sticky bomb and the caco is like 50 miles away from me

[quiet cloud]

still managable

[gaunt smelt]

It’s the one that’s inside that first arena and you have to cross a bridge for

Not on an UN run 😭 it’s completely luck based whether he lands his projectiles atp

[quiet cloud]

ik dude

[austere bronze]

not really, since that part is entirely deterministic

though it's very small margins

[quiet cloud]

i mean lwk just spam combos of rocket and stuff

[gaunt smelt]

The rocket launcher is unlocked in Cultist Base

[quiet cloud]

oh ye i read that wrong

i mean its managable

[gaunt smelt]

If I had the dash by that point it’d be more manageable

[quiet cloud]

why dont u have the dash

[gaunt smelt]

Bc you get it after that arena

[quiet cloud]

wait which arena are u talking about

[clear holly]

You can try to use frag grenade, if it's close and then spam stick bombs. Just remember they are both a bit parabolic and grenades are short distance thing. Aim into its mouth, but game helps a bit with it.

[gaunt smelt]

The problem is it’s all the way into the other building and I’m across the bridge

[clear holly]

Right at the start, where 1st Gargoyles appear.

[quiet cloud]

oh

[gaunt smelt]

No

[clear holly]

Oh wait. No it's not

[gaunt smelt]

Sorry then it’s the big arena after that

[quiet cloud]

ye just sticky bomb its pretty easy to stun him

[gaunt smelt]

Like the one the arachnotron shows up in

[quiet cloud]

yeye i got that

[gaunt smelt]

He’s on the other side of the bridge 😭

[clear holly]

Where electrical stuff appears later - got it.

[quiet cloud]

ye ik

i mean u can just launch it at an angle instead of a straight line

[clear holly]

Camp it at the start near doors with shooting things.

[quiet cloud]

also u can pb spam

[gaunt smelt]

I mean I have to get on the bridge to summon the gargoyles and caco, so I guess just do that and then run back

Cuz the gargoyles climb up on the left side of the bridge

[quiet cloud]

why run back
ur gonna be closer to the caco

[clear holly]

You can also use columns to stop it for a while, while hiding. You can even try to learn to shoot it that way.

[gaunt smelt]

So I don’t get butt blasted by his plasma balls

[quiet cloud]

shoot him before he shoots u

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-of-course-ohhhh-oh-that-makes-sense-gif-11896286840118452668

[gaunt smelt]

I can’t because he’s on the other side of the bridge 😭

[quiet cloud]

bruh 😭

oke do whatever u want bro

[gaunt smelt]

I legit have tried that 25 times and 50% it misses or doesn’t go far enough

And then I get bitten and die by falling

[clear holly]

Do you play with mouse or controller? Maybe senstivity can help?

[drowsy wedge]

im sure clicking this link is a great idea!

<@&162901871168585728>

[drowsy wedge]

on a different note, what is the trick to punch PBing?

i try to do it but i cannot get it to reset the cooldown as quick as i see ppl do it

[austere bronze]

are you pressing the hc bind after punching?

[drowsy wedge]

what is hc

[austere bronze]

heavy cannon

[drowsy wedge]

oh

no im not

[austere bronze]

you have to do that with all punch cancels except stickies

[drowsy wedge]

oooohhh

oh my god

[austere bronze]

(pressing the weapon you're punch cancelling, not specifically the heavy cannon)

[quiet cloud]

punch then press ur heavy cannon button

eternal considers ur punch a weapon too

so u can "quickswap" to ur heavy cannon and pb after punching

[drowsy wedge]

my eyes have been opened

fuck i might want to switch what my melee button is now lol

[sick yarrow]

quick question

why don't u have that "early supporter" badge on ur profile?

[drowsy wedge]

huh?

[sick yarrow]

You have your account since 2015 and you're server boosting since 2019 which makes you eligible for the early supporter badge

[drowsy wedge]

i do not server boost this server

[sick yarrow]

Do you see those icons on your profile, like the pink diamond

[drowsy wedge]

yeah

[sick yarrow]

Oh, I just searched and you had to buy nitro until 2018 so get that "Early supporter" icon, nvm

Mind if I dm you so I can show you the badge I was talking about ?

[drowsy wedge]

what the hell did i just get baited by a bot

[sick yarrow]

wdym?

[drowsy wedge]

is this how all these people are getting hacked now

[sick yarrow]

what

I can't send pictures here man , that's why I'm asking to dm u 😭

And I literally just checked your profile cuz I thought I saw you somewhere else

[drowsy wedge]

that just sounded like what the bot scammers do just randomly bringing something up out of context to find a way to DM you lol

[sick yarrow]

Breh

[drowsy wedge]

(no i dont really need to see the picture)

[storm eagle]

Why are you asking him this in the Eternal channel, or at all?

[sick yarrow]

Oh, I didn't even see the channel, sorry. and answering the "or at all" part, I thought I knew him from another sever and his 6 years + of nitro icon highlighted on my eye xd

[sick yarrow]

server*

[drowsy wedge]

unless youre in starcraft servers you prolly havent seen me before

[sick yarrow]

I left it last week so probably it was that

the reddit one

[drowsy wedge]

oh really lmao

word then

[sick yarrow]

yeah , not on this account though, this is just my alt which is my main now cuz I forgot the email of my main 😭

[drowsy wedge]

unlucky

anyways does using BATS make punch canceling RL shots faster?

[storm eagle]

Go to #general chat @sick yarrow for this kind of stuff in the future so this channel doesn't get clogged up, thanks

[sick yarrow]

If you wanna continue talking about this subject or smth, let's go to general. I don't wanna create more trouble

[sick yarrow]

Yeah , mb

[storm eagle]

I do them without using BATS at all but I'm sure M1 will have his opinions

[drowsy wedge]

yeah like im trying to do it that fast but it doesnt

[austere bronze]

interestingly enough, the fast swap effect (which makes the punch rockets in LM's clip so fast) doesn't work alongside the BATS effect

[storm eagle]

hi M1!

[austere bronze]

so you have to choose one, and then doing it with the fast swap effect (the regular way) is faster

[drowsy wedge]

i can get the PB punching as fast as possible

[storm eagle]

yeah I need to practice BATS

[austere bronze]

hellooo

[drowsy wedge]

but i cant with the RL

[austere bronze]

you needa go pb->rocket punch cancels

or something else that activates the FSE effect, such as 2 full auto shots

[storm eagle]

ngl shit sucks to practice lol but every tech thing is so satisfying in Eternal

[austere bronze]

have you been playing any eternal lately? ;p

[austere bronze]

and also you can't spam the rocket's bind, you have to time it, and you can't hold the fire button

[storm eagle]

a little but I was grinding Resident Evil. I'm gonna get back to Eternal though since I miss it and am burnt out on RE

[austere bronze]

it's easily the hardest weapon to punch cancel

[austere bronze]

nicee

[storm eagle]

I was practicing sticky swaps recently

[austere bronze]

well not the burning out part, but the other stuff😭

[drowsy wedge]

can i DM you (lmao bot behavior) the recording to ask how im doing it wrong?

[austere bronze]

sure, but you can also send it in the video chanel

[drowsy wedge]

yeah but that has a 15 minute cooldown

[austere bronze]

if you want more people to potentially be able to give their inputs

[austere bronze]

ahh i see

[austere bronze]

like pb+sticky?

[storm eagle]

yupss

[austere bronze]

i haven't really sat down to practice anything in a loong while, kinda need to do it though

[drowsy wedge]

oh shit i can get the super fast shots for like 2 or 3 of them

yeah i get 2 super fast rockets right when i switch but then it just slows down again

[austere bronze]

are you holding fire?

[drowsy wedge]

no

[austere bronze]

because if you do that you can get exactly 2 fast rockets

then the most common thing is that people actually go too fast

it looks like you need to go faster than you have to

[drowsy wedge]

so how am i supposed to time it exactly then

[austere bronze]

ehh it's kinda hard to put into words, but i am getting 2,2 clicks per second when doing punch rockets

or at least that's what i get when i try to emulate the timing in a cps tester

[austere bronze]

and i always look at the combo like this: fire->punch->rocket bind, repeat

although that's obviously after you've fired your pb shot and swapped to the rocket

[drowsy wedge]

so you said i dont hae to go as fast as i actually think

what is that? shooting the rocket or punching

[austere bronze]

well it's one of 2 things that fail

the 3 inputs in the cycle should be evenly spaced apart (same amount of time from firing, to punching, to pressing the rocket, to firing, etc)
and you have to do the cycle at the correct speed

and the former isn't that hard to get down (i think), so it's usually the latter that messes people up

[drowsy wedge]

i mean im kinda just spam clicking shoot

to try to get it fast enough

[austere bronze]

yeah you need to find that particular rhythm

[drowsy wedge]

but like

i cant even get it going fast enough if i dont do that

[storm eagle]

someone just posted a cool drawing in #artwork btw

[austere bronze]

which kind of makes me think that BATS between rocket and ballista is easier than punch rockets

[drowsy wedge]

well yeah ive done bats before but not this

[austere bronze]

since then you can go completely at your own pace without risk of losing the effect

oo nice

[austere bronze]

i mean you only need to press each of the 3 binds about 2 times per second

[drowsy wedge]

are you saying thats a lot or not a lot

[austere bronze]

not a lot

if i just spam click left mouse button i get about 9 clicks per second

[drowsy wedge]

yeah so im confused how clicking so slow will make it shoot so fast

[austere bronze]

yup that's what i think messes most people up xd

[drowsy wedge]

i can only ever get the 2 fast ones

[austere bronze]

but since it's 3 inputs to get 1 rocket away, and there's just a tiny bit of downtime between each, it doesn't end up being that many clicks per second

(for each individual bind)

[drowsy wedge]

oh wait i got 3 that time

as an aside how do i disable the screenshake for punching

[arctic sedge]

"shot Icon of Sin with my 9, shot 'em 9 times at 9pm, on the dime"

[gusty ocean]

chat whats the easiest master level

[storm eagle]

Cultist Base

Or Arc Complex

scammers out of control lately

[neon shard]

True

I’ve seen so many new scams this last week

[clear holly]

I have no idea, what last Rune should be for melee build.

Savagery:

• Pros: makes GK loop faster and doesn't give too much time for enemies to move around/towards player. Also helps in situations, where needed to perform few GKs in short period of time.
• Cons: doesn't give enough time for equipment to recharge.

Seek and Destroy:

• Pros: extra movement, when GKs are available and extra chance for GKs.
• Cons: not that much useful, overall (?).

Blood Fueled:

• Pros: faster speed after GK.
• Cons: ??? Seems to be no cons?

Air Control:

• Pros: addictive. So - nope for me.
• Cons: addictive. So - nope for me.

Dazed and Confused:

• Pros: longer stun for GKs.
• Cons: no?

Saving Throw:

• Pros: Extra chance not to lose Extra Lives or die.
• Cons: Not that great in practise outside of NIghtmare or UN runs.

Chrono Strike (Currently in Use, but not sure about it)

• Pros: Helps with slowmo.
• Cons: doesn't seem to recharge, until fully discharged (?).

Equipment Fiend (In Use)

• Pros: even less cooldowns for god of cooldowns!
• Cons: none, outside of maybe messing with cooldowns feeling.

Punch and Reave (In Use)

• Pros: ideal for melee run with BP orientation.
• Cons: not so ideal outside of BP orientated build, but doesn't matter for this run.

What's your thoughts about it?

[sudden sequoia]

chrono strike is cool in practice but idk if its even that useful outside of trying to look cool

who the hell even uses like half of these

[steel hound]

Terrible

[void spire]

Gougou gaga

[clear holly]

Chrono Strike is good for extra time for planning in combat or control for movement or better aim (time+positioning). It's basically for those like me, who thinks that game sometimes is too fast. But I don't know is it still better than others.

I didn't use Savagery, Seek and Destroy Air Control much. I checked them, but never played a lot with them. Air Control is just not my thing, even though I know it's amazing Rune. Others - I see their use, but don't know how to make them useful for me.
I almost never used Punch and Reave too, since barely used Blood Punch, but with melee orientated build it's amazing with other BP charge upgrades.

My standard build was: always Dazed and Confused, almost always Equipment Fiend and most of the time Saving Throw or at least something like Blood Fueled, Chrono Strike.

[clear holly]

In general or something specific?

[low bronze]

I want to start the second part of the dlc but I haven't finished the first because I'm stuck on the holt.

should i finish the holt or moved to reclaimed earth

[low bronze]

started part 2

i forgot reclaimed is NOT the first level

[jolly kernel]

did you guys know that Spectres actually don't have armor on their front like Pinkies?
makes them much easier to manage

[uneven palm]

Alguien sabe cómo cambiar el correo de doom eternal? por accidente lo puse mal

[upbeat dirge]

if you do not like playing holt, dont play it.
part 2 is WAY easier than part 1, and if you do not like the challenge, just play part 2.

[quiet cloud]

Pls don't use chrono strike and switch to dazed and confused as in a melee only build ur gonna want to get as many glory kills are possible and it would be rly hard to deal with enemies who get back up

This is just a personal suggestion

[gusty ocean]

oh yea it's easy af

like by the time you play arc complex i feel it's harder than ts after beating campaign

[dry apex]

Is there a way I can play the doom eternal campaign with my friend?

[low bronze]

I saw a campaign multiplayer mod awhile back. Not sure how well it works tho. Also I don't know if at least ONE of you have the finish the campaign first.

[austere bronze]

there's a co-op and invasion mod

[jolly kernel]

do you guys think timing your dashes is important in the game? as in, is it not always a good idea to use both dashes at the same time all the time?

[quiet cloud]

yes

[upbeat dirge]

if you wanna go faster dont double dash, it is longer than timing your dashes when they recharge.
in combat tho just use them when you need them.

dont double dash all the time

[quiet cloud]

always try to keep one dash free so that u can escape some attack heading ur way

[void spire]

It’s time to begin the Part 2 DLC

Good luck to me

[austere bronze]

doing solid single dashes makes you go faster than double dashing, but most importantly it allows you to always be ready to dash away

[quiet cloud]

dw tag2 is easier than tag1

[austere bronze]

being able to single dash is really good

[upbeat dirge]

do mind that it is way easier than tag1.

[austere bronze]

but it gets pretty hard to time your single dashes perfectly if you quick swap

[quiet cloud]

if u wanna travel fast just ballista boost

[void spire]

Hmm okay

[austere bronze]

or rather, very hard

[jolly kernel]

man the gaining extra life back if you kill the enemy that caused you to lose it rune in both TAGs is so op

it lets you get away with playing stupid even on nightmare

[upbeat dirge]

its cool and stuff, but breakblast can give you so much power that you rarely die.

[quiet cloud]

tbh none of the support runes matter much

if ur a casual player just put extra life steal or whatever its called and ur good

[austere bronze]

i think break blast is quite good, probably almost as good as dazed and confused (the rune i think is third best)

but no single rune will do a ton... except for air control

[quiet cloud]

equipment fiend is also good

[austere bronze]

yup

air control and equipment fiend are the 2 runes i think everyone should run

[quiet cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/gyro-zeppeli-jojo-sbr-steel-ball-run-gif-3965985935104437104

[jolly kernel]

I use air control, seek and destroy and dazed and confused

perfect rune combo imo

[jolly kernel]

air control really should have been a normal feature imo since it's a rune that like everyone uses

[quiet cloud]

ballista boosting and certain skips for speedrunning become way difficult if ur using air control

niche cases when its not useful but they exist

[austere bronze]

ballista boosting isn't particularly harder with ac, you only have to let go of the movement keys when turning back

and i can't think of any case where speedrunning benefits from no ac

[drowsy wedge]

yeah absolutemassive doesnt change away from AC at all during his run

[austere bronze]

ehh

it provides more direct player control, but there are also people who prefer playing without it

[quiet cloud]

i saw this one guy on reddit explaning that stuff lemme see if i can find it

also i might be a crackhead but i do find ballistaboosting easier without ac

[empty veldt]

looking for someone to let me do 5000 damage as a demon
psn: missaelmachado

[austere bronze]

i mean reddit can give good info, but also really bad info...

i may be wrong though🤷‍♂️

and b-boosting is easier without ac, since you can hold down the movement keys the entire time

but if you just let them go when turning backwards, it's essentially the same

[quiet cloud]

ik
i read some idiot's analysis who said sekiro is a dodge focused game 😭

that guy tho ... he had ball knowledge

i dont do speedrunning much but he mentioned some rly weird skips which do work when i tried

[void spire]

The fight is rude 😩

[quiet cloud]

how can a fight be rude 😭

[upbeat dirge]

its not rude, the hammer is so op that it makes every fight easy.

[void spire]

I forgot to use the Sentinel hammer so many time… 😩

But it’s game changer… 😩

[upbeat dirge]

relatable

[void spire]

I’m this kind of gamer doesn’t use the most powerful weapons (like Sentinel hammer, BFG, Unmayker, Crucible, etc.)
Cause I forgot to use it-

[austere bronze]

i really can't see how no ac can be beneficial though

all ac does is make air movement like ground movement

[jolly kernel]

yeah I also forget to use the hammer frequently too

using the hammer on the Marauder then the full auto on him feels like a free kill

since you get 9 shells back

[void spire]

I don’t meet Marauder for the moment (I play on the second chapter of Part 2 DLC)

[void spire]

I will try

[jolly kernel]

headshot him to make it better

let's be real: we don't use the crucible on anything that isn't a Tyrant or Arch-Vile

[austere bronze]

i feel like using it on a tyrant is more of a timesave than it is optimal for survival, since they don't do a ton

barons however...

[quiet cloud]

not beneficial just easier

[austere bronze]

yeah i don't see how that can be the case either

[void spire]

Barons are more strong than Tyrant to me

[austere bronze]

except if you can't ballista boost with ac i suppose

but you just gotta let go of the movement keys

[austere bronze]

yup, they're really aggressive and tanky

not as tanky as tyrants, but tyrants don't do a ton

[void spire]

Heavy barons, my nightmare

[austere bronze]

... usually
#videos message

[quiet cloud]

i find it easier to ballista boost without ac

[void spire]

Bruh

[jolly kernel]

I wish Barons still had their 2016 design in this game. that one is so good 😭

[void spire]

Okay, I continue the DLC

[quiet cloud]

there is a mod that does just that

[sand wasp]

I beat the icon of sin

thats all 3 doom games down

should i play the og games now?

[clear holly]

Yeah, would be cool to have 4th slot only for Air Control/In-Flight Mobility.

[upbeat dirge]

they are not for all people, so play the first doom 1 episode, and then decide will to play the next ones or not.

[ivory leaf]

How much BFG ammo is in all of TAG 2 aside from the two I start with?

[quiet cloud]

i tried to remember it all in my head and i can think of 7

could be upto 9

[jolly kernel]

this is the only Doom 2016 enemy whose design in that game is better than the one in Eternal imo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1499814931279642836/imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-HrnXiIKk1J9.png?ex=69f62b00&is=69f4d980&hm=2e768e7c21d36ebfadaa6f54a468da0551af5b9894f9fab81fffb7a78615f5e2&

[quiet cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/gyro-zeppeli-jojo-sbr-steel-ball-run-gif-3965985935104437104

[upbeat dirge]

dude what...
the baron in 2016 does not look menacing at all and just looks like a goofy goat.
am not saying that the design of 2016 is bad, am saying that it doesnt fit the baron in eternal.
the barons in eternal are way faster and have larger aoe.
so the design of 2016 just wouldnt look that menacing.
how would you even know that he does fire damage if you stand too close?
this is the thing, if the baron from 2016 was in eternal it wouldve been unintuitive to fight.

[quiet cloud]

thats subjective tho

a person may like the design the other may not

like take doom 3 for example
i hate it with every inch of my body others might love it

[jolly kernel]

here's how I do it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1499821196693209292/marauderhammerfullautokill.mp4?ex=69f630d6&is=69f4df56&hm=e59591db93809acc737f93c3d276aa237fc3749a973dd2052149580e5ee88ce7&

[void spire]

Holy moly

[upbeat dirge]

why teach him the most fun destroying mechanic of the hammer tho...
fighting mauraders is fun... and you just send him a guide on how to one cycle him.

[quiet cloud]

dont wanna hate but theres easier methods to one cycle

also using hammer against marauders especially is just a waste

[drowsy wedge]

what's easier than that?

[clear holly]

I like visuals and design of most enemies more in 2016. Regular Zombies and Unwilling, Revenants, Mancubi (at least base one).
I'm not sure about Hell Knights, Barons, Cybermancubi - which I prefer more, though.

[austere bronze]

people can play the game however they want

and this is a very effective way of killing marauders, i don't see why you shouldn't share it lol, and then people can decide for themself if they want to do it or not

[upbeat dirge]

oh okay

[drowsy wedge]

some people find enjoyment out of figuring out the easiest/quickest/most efficient ways to kill demons

i am one of them and this video pleased me

[austere bronze]

i think it depends

it makes for the easiest one cycles, but you get less resources from the hammer

[quiet cloud]

theres one with full auto that idk how to do
i use one in which u stun him then use a frag and then 2 lobs

[quiet cloud]

exactly

i mean why even use hammer in the first place

no hammer gng here

[austere bronze]

neither is easier though

[quiet cloud]

ye ig

[drowsy wedge]

yeah those are both way harder than what that video showed lol

[quiet cloud]

takes some practice getting used to

[drowsy wedge]

that video is like the easiest no thoughts brain empty way to deal with marauders ive ever seen

i bet i could do it first try easily. the full auto frag nade one took me so many tries to finally get

and i just cant do the double lob one

[quiet cloud]

using a arbelast helps even if the last rocket doesnt land

[ivory leaf]

Thx

[jolly kernel]

I finished every Eternal campaign on nightmare today 🥳

[void spire]

I’m going to fight Davoth now

The time is come

[austere bronze]

ayy GGs!!

[austere bronze]

good luck!

[void spire]

Yup

[jolly kernel]

nightmare difficulty in this game is very fun, I can't go back to ultra-violence anymore

[void spire]

It’s done ! I finished all the game (campaign + DLC’s)

[quiet cloud]

nice gg

[void spire]

Ty

[neon shard]

Peak!

[neon shard]

Same here

Nightmare's the way

[austere bronze]

once you move up in difficulty it's difficult to go back xd

[scenic axle]

I have a mod that makes it look like the 2016 one lol

[dusky horizon]

Guys I killed (partially) the khan makyr like 30 times (not even exaggerating) before realizing it only counts if you blood punch it

[simple holly]

Not really a big deal, but I was replaying the Davoth bossfight, and he was doing some weird moonwalk-like thing. Didn't catch it on camera, but I wonder if anybody else has seen it.

[tardy patrol]

Is anyone free to grind out some battlemode trophies?

[orchid spoke]

is the hebeth in eternal (in mars) the same hebeth as the second mission in dark ages?

[sudden sequoia]

yes

[gentle thicket]

As the marauder once said " you were never one of us you are a false idol, my eyes have been open let me help you to see slayer"

[neon shard]

Somehow

I think that level was a missed opportunity to further explore the city we got to see in Eternal

It was even on the Eternal cover art, such an iconic place

[gusty ocean]

i finished the arc complex master level and right at the end i got a weird bug and like i had no weapon equipped and instead had the berserk hands

[nocturne moon]

is it true doom eternal sucks on console or more specifically console doom eternal players suck because ive heard this somewhere a lot

[austere bronze]

this is a console player
https://youtu.be/B0zqciiyUBU?is=3QAwjN0ymvcue5gZ&t=35

[nocturne moon]

i stand incorrect

[scenic axle]

It's more difficult to get very good at doom eternal, by that I mean like UNing custom master levels, it doesn't really matter for any official iD content

[fiery dagger]

its dosnt suck its just much harder to get as good as someone on pc

theres a few mechanics you cant do on console

[nocturne moon]

and what are those mechanics im curious

[fiery dagger]

fist swapping

mainly

[tardy patrol]

Is anyone free to play Battlemode

Trying to grind out some trophies

[austere bronze]

you can do that

only things you can't do on console are some speedrunning related skips

[fiery dagger]

you would need to set a whole button on the controller to a weapon tho?

but yeah

[quiet cloud]

pb and rocket spam mainly

[austere bronze]

except for stickies, yea

[austere bronze]

but in this video there's quite a lot of rocket punch cancelling for example

and that person is also far from the skill roof on controller, especially considering they "only" got 450 hours on the game

[quiet cloud]

btw i had a question , is pb sticky overated or am i just a crackhead for using it like in every other combo

[fiery dagger]

literally watching this clip

if u said he was on pc i wouldnt be suprised

[quiet cloud]

its my 3th fav after ballista pb rocket ssg and pb ballista combo

[austere bronze]

pb sticky by itself doesn't have super good DPS, however, inserting stickies into combos is really nice (like: pb->sticky->rocket) since stickies can transfer the fast swap effect

if you had infinite ammo there would be very little reason to use stickies, but since ammo is limited they're super solid to spread out ammo usage with

stickies can also crit, which makes them deal almost as much damage as a rocket

[quiet cloud]

ye thats exactly what i do

[austere bronze]

crit system is kinda weird though

[quiet cloud]

thanks for the advice goat

[austere bronze]

ye ofc!

[upbeat dirge]

wait, there is crits in doom eternal???

i have beaten every master level on nightmare, didnt knew crits existed...

i feel so stupid...

[austere bronze]

nono, there's an absurd amount of mechanics and fun things in this game, it'd be unreasonable to know it all

most don't know about sticky crits or how they work

[upbeat dirge]

neat

[quiet cloud]

yeah

oh wait

[upbeat dirge]

?

[quiet cloud]

nth

ur new name

makes me sus

[upbeat dirge]

yeah a random guy said to me that i need to change my name to this

[quiet cloud]

oh damn lmfao

btw u play any modded levels ?

[upbeat dirge]

nah am lazy to install them

and i think that they might be bad

[quiet cloud]

dude play them they are so worth it

[upbeat dirge]

okay

[quiet cloud]

ill give u a few suggestions : hell abyss v2 , unreclaimed earth

[upbeat dirge]

neat

unreclaimed earth is 45 minutes long😭

i do not like long levels😔

[quiet cloud]

did u beat world spear ml

[upbeat dirge]

ye

i didnt liked it that much

[austere bronze]

depends on what custom levels you do

and it's super easy to play modded levels😭

just click on play doom eternal with mods, and then go and download a mod

and put it in the active mods bar and launch the game

[quiet cloud]

u can start out with the maps by saleem

they arent as hard as some of the others

[austere bronze]

is that really bad though?

good luck getting a 45 min run of unreclaimed earth if you're doing all the extra encounters tho...

[quiet cloud]

oh dude u dont know how long custom levels can get

[austere bronze]

most are at like a reasonable length

[upbeat dirge]

i do not like long levels, especially if they are hard.
i like some chill levels like blood swamps and urdak in vanilla.

[quiet cloud]

hell abyss v2 (my personal fav) took me 1hour to unm

[austere bronze]

unbalanced or balanced?

[quiet cloud]

balanced ofc

i aint a difficulty slave

i did beat unbalanced on nm tho

[austere bronze]

longest level is probably cultist stronghold

[quiet cloud]

holy shit the slayer gate of that is tough

[austere bronze]

took me 100 min to UN

[quiet cloud]

20 mins of fking purple goo and specter versions of everything

even blood maykrs 😭

[austere bronze]

even the seraphim was a spectre variant😭😭

[quiet cloud]

i remember that

my legit reaction after seeing that

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

[austere bronze]

blighted base, cultist stronghold, and unholy urdak are the 3 longest levels i think

with the world spear slaughter master level up there too

[quiet cloud]

wait tf is that

[austere bronze]

level mod only on nexus mods

really spammy level

created by the same person who made cultist stronghold

[quiet cloud]

damn

ngl i wish there was a balanced version of cultist stronghold

[austere bronze]

or, it's only really long if you do the escalation encounter

otherwise it's just long

[austere bronze]

yeah the current version is not accessible at all

[quiet cloud]

ngl i should play chessboard without dblade

[austere bronze]

but making a balanced version would also be a ton of work, since it's so long

[quiet cloud]

would be interesting

[quiet cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/gyro-zeppeli-jojo-sbr-steel-ball-run-gif-3965985935104437104

[austere bronze]

dblade makes that map so much easier loll

chessboard 1 or 2?

[quiet cloud]

both

[austere bronze]

haven't played chessboard 1 in a whilee, but chessboard 2 is so much harder than it looks

or at least that's how i felt

[quiet cloud]

i agree

[austere bronze]

i'm gonna go replay cultist stronghold

it's been almost 4 months since i last touched it

[quiet cloud]

gl hf

[viscid marten]

If LM reads this, I beat doom eternal and the dlc all by myself :)

[storm eagle]

amazing, very well done!!

[viscid marten]

It was on the switch as well💀

-# I have yet to conquer the gold skin

[clear holly]

How exactly does Chaingun Shield activates, when not using Chaingun primary shooting itself? Do I need to throw few grenades into crowded place?
I was able to activate it few times, but not sure how and how much damage it requires.

[quiet cloud]

i guy ik on youtube explained it pretty well

lemme find the link for ya

nvm i cant find it

[austere bronze]

what do you mean?

[viscid marten]

yes

[austere bronze]

huh

[quiet cloud]

pretty sure hes refering the glitch in which u can use other weapons while ur chaingun shield mod is still active for like 5 or 6 seconds

[austere bronze]

that was patched out in 6.0

[quiet cloud]

oh

didnt know that

[void spire]

I’m going to begin a new campaign in nightmare difficulty
I finished the entire game in standard difficulty yesterday, but I want challenge me again

[austere bronze]

hurt me plenty?

good luck though! and have fun

[void spire]

I don’t know the name of each difficulty level in english (I have the french version of the game)
In french, the standard difficulty is « Fais-moi mal », we can translate it by « Hurt me plenty », yes, maybe

[clear holly]

I mean, if you deal enough damage, while Shield is active - it would still shoot Shield, even if not shooting via Chaingun primary fire. I just don't know could it be only dashing with shield or dashing+shield+frag grenads/flame belch.
Also don't know is it still possible to fight Gladiator, Khan Maykr, Icon of Sin within "melee/no ammo" run approach, since RK run was 2 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGSiKQUsAlY&t=1278s

[void spire]

Ty

[jolly kernel]

if the Hell Razer was in Eternal would his design be any different than 2016 in your opinion?

[austere bronze]

any damage while the shield is up will charge it up, and there has been no changes which would make your run harder/easier compared to RK's

[neon shard]

I have some opinions on this

First of all, his moves would definitely be refined. I think it was Hugo who mentioned that he had too many start and stop animations to consistently hit the player

But as for actual looks, I feel like they'd pull a Baron treatment on him

We're in a different part of Hell this time around, so the Hell Razer could have different color scheme

Doing some further research, it turns out the Mecha Zombie came from ideation during the Hell Razer concept art

I do think they serve different purposes tho

[clear holly]

Thank you very much! ❤️ 🎉

[neon shard]

I guess the only thing I can think of would be a "Fireborne Hell Razer" of sorts, with the magma blood like the Archvile or Fireborne Baron

[gusty ocean]

oh god now i know why everyone says sgn master level is the best

it really is

oh no why is there fog

that was fun

yea i love fighting 3 barons at the same time how did you know

[vivid mason]

Hello

[gusty ocean]

when is the double marauder room

dude i always forget the chaingun has the best weapon mod in the game

and i forgot you have an instakill weapon with 3 charges

fuck no there's 4 arch viles

sorry level but i need to go i'll beat you next time

[austere bronze]

yess

i think the difficulty is balanced well for a master level, and the quality is high

[gusty ocean]

idk if it was just the fact that i was playing on uv instead of nightmare but it's so easy to fully restock yourself if you use everything in your arsenal

the hard thing is to use everything in your arsenal

but like for example that one room with the 2 tyrants and the doom hunter after u use the yellow key

i almost died like 3 times but i still ended up with almost full health armor and ammo after the fact

also i hope carcasses rot in hell

[spare gate]

The one with one buffed tyrant ? AG Part 1 ?

[gusty ocean]

No in sgn

That one isnt that hard since it's pretty open

[long edge]

Im pretty experienced with doom eternal so I started a new campaign on nightmare and it's all fine until a mancubus shows up
Idk if its a skill issue but these guys are kicking my arse

What's the best weapon to take them out with aside from the bfg and unmaykr

[meager kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doomguy-doom-eternal-gif-10998412856741205046

[sand wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-pog-gif-22171410

[sand wasp]

rush him with the sticky bombs or full auto mod on combat shottie if your just starting, or rush him with the super shottie if you have it

[neon shard]

I just completed the quintuple Marauder easter egg encounter on World Spear 🥹 Did it with sticky bombs and frags

Earned the golden SSG and Heavy Cannon right after, fitting reward

[low bronze]

Planning on doing that soon. I gotta fast travel back right?

[neon shard]

Yes

The sfx made me have to turn down my volume entirely lol, the wolves get so annoying

Took me 4-6 tries with different techniques

[low bronze]

Great HEAVENS

Im screwed when I go back to do that

[neon shard]

I had to stay around both jump pads to even keep my armor up

I can't imagine the skill necessary to beat it with the classic Marauder stun combo

[low bronze]

Once again, I'm gonna have send my self flying to survive something

[neon shard]

The hammer is pretty much useless here

[neon shard]

Yes

[low bronze]

[viscid marten]

whatre you guys discussing?

[neon shard]

The last time I used sticky bombs like this was in the Taras Nabad Master Level coin room...

[viscid marten]

if its tips, i can help!

[neon shard]

That was brutal

[neon shard]

I just comleted the quintuple Marauder encounter in the World Spear level on Nightmare dif

Giving tips on how I defeated them, it was a very cheesy fight I feel

[low bronze]

I promised myself I was gonna do the encounter

I'm gonna do it

when i go to fight the horde, I'll keep count

[neon shard]

It was pretty fun tho, your biggest enemy will be the hitboxes on the rocks and hounds really

So stay in the air

[low bronze]

Plan on it

[viscid marten]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ramirez-cara-cat-FURSZmCQAYe8d3EZPs

[neon shard]

As a side note (really the main attraction) I finished the World Spear on Nightmare! I gotta say, this level is top notch

[viscid marten]

well

[neon shard]

I love the giant fodder waves here, reminds me of the Super Gore Nest Master Level

[viscid marten]

im planning on doing a main campaign UN run after i get the phobos skin

[neon shard]

The imps really got to shine here

[low bronze]

I'm doing it on ultra violence

[neon shard]

Ey! Peak

[low bronze]

I MIGHT be alright i guess

[viscid marten]

its gonna be hell

[low bronze]

im aware

the taras nabad opening gate with ONE fucked me up

[neon shard]

I completed it on UV as well during my first playthrough of the level, as well as my first attempt at beating the Marauders

(I couldn't win, only glory killed one of em)

[low bronze]

Bro. Im so not ready for this

https://tenor.com/view/jack-manifold-jack-manifold-absolute-despair-despair-gif-1933694088071764233

[viscid marten]

but sources recommend beating the game on nightmare first

so what should i expect

[neon shard]

Praying for you 😭 🙏

[neon shard]

I haven't beaten UN yet but yeah, you should prolly do that

[low bronze]

I WILL update when I reach that point

[neon shard]

What really kills you are those bosses oml. Like I was able to run The Holt at Nightmare with no deaths until Samur

[viscid marten]

oh my god I FUCKIN HATE SAMUR

[low bronze]

I hate samur too

[viscid marten]

WORST BOSS EVER

[neon shard]

The Samur fight is like

Fighting Samur ❌
Fighting moving aoe enemies with some spirit fodder ✅

I wish there was more direct action with his moves instead

[viscid marten]

well, what should i expect to hate in my future nightmare run?

[sudden sequoia]

everything

something will annoy you at one point

[viscid marten]

dont you mean everything?

[sudden sequoia]

that’s what I said

[neon shard]

The gameplay cutscenes would definitely get annoying

Like when the final Arachnotron comes in during that one arena in Hell on Earth

Or the damn sentinel energy core thingie pickups in Exultia

[viscid marten]

speaking of...PURPLE GOO

I HATE THAT STUFF

[neon shard]

Exultia is so cool but, it's such a slow level

[viscid marten]

mhm

[low bronze]

the goo of sadness and doom

[viscid marten]

i like arc complex

for one reason...

[neon shard]

Oh ARC Complex is awesome

[viscid marten]

the best song ever plays

[neon shard]

It's the first level where you really feel flowing imo, and then you revisit the older levels after your playthrough and enjoy them as much

[neon shard]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

Also, ARC Complex honestly has some of the greatest encounters in the game even for not having that many super heavies if any

As well as the aesthetic, it and Final Sin just reek of that amazing 90s action movie finale kinda look which DOOM II went with, yk what I mean (Terminator II, Jurrasic Park II)

[low bronze]

I love the arc complex

but it glitches on me alot

[neon shard]

Oof

[low bronze]

mostly when i turn on all the cheats to speed run it for fun

same with world spear

when the armored baron first shows up

[viscid marten]

that explains the gltiches

[low bronze]

but the world spear one also does it without cheats

[low bronze]

gang i gotta do it again

it didn't give me a fast travel prompt

is there a command prompt to pull me back to the level end

[vivid mason]

Hello

[gusty ocean]

Ig pb rocket

Or ballista

[low bronze]

i've made it

@neon shard its time

1v5 marauder fight. God help me.

[neon shard]

You can do this

[low bronze]

we've reached 7 attempts so far

I've decided to pull some high ground bullshit

i need tips

help me. Attempt number 9

i've managed to get as far as killing 1

number 10\

it's gonna be a LOOOOONG night

i've now killed 2

[neon shard]

What technique have you tried?

[neon shard]

Hell yeah! It gets easier from then on

[low bronze]

idk man.

[austere bronze]

there aren't any best weapons to take demons out in eternal, however there are a couple of things worth noting

[low bronze]

Anything will help at this point

[austere bronze]

removing their weakpoints helps a ton (no more fire attacks and their ptojectiles get smaller, slower, and deal half the damage), which can be done with heat blast, barrel explosions, blood punch, precision bolt, ballista, or sticky bombs

interestingly enough, with sticky bombs, they will deal almost as much damage as a rocket if you destroy one of their weakpoints with it

one lock-on burst volley deals 2700 damage out of their 3500 health, which is good, however, you might want to save those rockets for higher threats (if you remove mancubi's weakpoints, they're very small threats)

[austere bronze]

if you're really patient, you could just avoid them as much as possible with the meathook (and if there's anything else in that arena, idk) and then splash them

[low bronze]

Thats what I've been doing. I found a cliff and can roost on and fire down.

I don't know what I could be doing better. Im trying so much stuff

i feel like im too slow to move

I'VE DONE IT

16-17 ATTEMPTS

I BELIEVE 16

@neon shard I beat it!!!!!!

I gotta edit the clip

[neon shard]

LFG 🥹

[low bronze]

16 attempts

[jolly kernel]

I uninstalled Eternal after I beat all of its campaigns on nightmare XD

I mean, I wouldn't really want to replay it for a long time, not to mention it takes up quite a big amount of disk space

I plan to do the same with 2016 after I get all of its multiplayer achievements

[low bronze]

Im so damn proud of myself. This is like my first time doing that challenge too on ANY difficulty. I wanna share the clip but I think my method of how I did this would give someone a stroke.

[jolly kernel]

I got a hyperfixation on the entire Doom series ever since I replayed 2016 and Eternal lmao 😭

[neon shard]

My insane run of fighting demons today has earned me 100 hours in DOOM Eternal lfg!

[low bronze]

Damn!

Should I post the video of me winning?

[neon shard]

I did The World Spear on Nightmare, the ARC Complex Master Level on Nightmare, and then the Mars Core Master Level on Nightmare (but then it crashed right before the 3rd map segment...)

[neon shard]

Yes!

Also I gotta say, ARC Complex ML on Nightmare is one of the best levels I've ever played, it's insane

This was my first time doing the Master Level

[jolly kernel]

I don't think I can play the master levels on nightmare, they feel way too demanding and tiring with the physical skill I have

[neon shard]

Very fair, they can be so damn tiring (especially Taras Nabad ML...)

[jolly kernel]

the only exceptions are Cultist Base and ARC Complex since those are rather time

[neon shard]

I'm a bit frustrated that it crashed on me, the Mars Core one

[neon shard]

I wish I had the Cultist Base ML 😔

There's prolly a mod for it somewhere

[jolly kernel]

I really enjoy killing Tyrants since they are big targets that I find fun to use quickswaps on

especially the sylar lock on burst tech. did you hear of it Jim?

[neon shard]

Same, Tyrants also just give that cool demonic aesthetic I'm looking for

That's an issue I have with some of the designs, they can end up feeling too much like a regular alien

[jolly kernel]

just buy the Rip And Tear Pack on sale lol

[neon shard]

Oh!?

Wait a second

[low bronze]

Its like 1 second off of ten minutes

[neon shard]

Where can I find the Rip And Tear pack?

[austere bronze]

if you're on pc, i wouldn't buy it honestly

[jolly kernel]

it's on steam

[neon shard]

How come?

[austere bronze]

it's about as easy as arc complex, and there's tons of mods you can play

[neon shard]

Oh well, I like completion

And ARC Complex was so much fun to me

[jolly kernel]

Rip And Tear Pack also has the funny Doot Revenant

[low bronze]

im uploading it to my youtube as a unlisted so i can store it. If ya want, I'll dm you the link when Im done

[neon shard]

I'll definitely be playing ARC Complex ML in the same way I play Nekravol - Part II or Final Sin

[jolly kernel]

(as a skin for the battlemode that zero people play)

[neon shard]

Sounds good

[low bronze]

👍

[jolly kernel]

I replayed Doom 3 in its entirety in like a day after I finished 2016 and Eternal and it was a casual relaxing experience compared to those two games

[austere bronze]

lowkey, i have no idea what i've been doing in eternal recently

like i've done some UN runs, but they're only a small portion of my time spent on the game