doom-eternal

[wraith spoke]

It was amazing

Real amazing

Doom 2016 was amazing to

[drowsy wedge]

time for TDA!

[real holly]

correct channel ✅

[drowsy wedge]

what lol

[real holly]

the dark ages talk in my beloved eternal channel?

blasphemy, mods, doom them

[fringe torrent]

One message mention 🥀

[feral thicket]

Going from Dark ages to eternal is KILLING ME

[austere bronze]

how so?

[feral thicket]

Idk but im so used to having a shield to block stuff that having to dash out the way just ain’t registering in my brain

[real holly]

reminds me of the first time i came back from TDA to Eternal and lowkenuienly tried to parry a marauders green eye flash

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-staring-at-sun-cute-dog-dog-closed-eyes-dog-staring-at-sunset-gif-10310895250239531072

[wicked ether]

i just got the bfg and fuck yes

[fervent sparrow]

i’m running through my first ultra nightmare playthrough 🫩

[arctic sedge]

this happened to me, but instead of TDA it was ultrakill

kill anything that's super-heavy, those are your priority targets

[sterile plume]

unless its a fucking carcass

then kill that thing

[arctic sedge]

"carcasses are my favorite enemy" ♻️ translating...
"i've never ever fought a carcass"

[clear holly]

I mean, other medium tier heavies are also painful.
Hell Knights/Dread Knights almost magnet to player, Whiplashes constantly sneak and shake screen with attacks, Pinkies can hurt, if not dealth with (but yeah, can be easily killed at least with standard approach). Revenants rockets also may be a bit painful, if not treated, though they are probably nicest of them all.
Carcasses are mostly annoying, but I'm a bit fascinated how they try to predict player's moves.

[sterile plume]

theyre pretty damn good at it

[fervent sparrow]

i got to doom hunter base, did the saving throw rune trick and i lost it but i beat doom hunter base, then went onto super gore nest and i got to where you need the 3 keys and i was about to get the chaingun and i got cornered and died

[sterile plume]

you got it bro after super gore nest its smooth sailing

[fervent sparrow]

i would really consider paying someone to do it for me atp lol

but i’ll keep trying

i know everyone’s going to think less of me when i say this but is there and scripts that i could use to help me?

[clear holly]

You play like you want to play it. Main thing is that would be enjoyable for you. It's SP campaign afterall.
I don't know about scripts, but maybe cheats work - but ask someone else about it. In 2016 UN killed player, if god cheat was use, if I remember right. But it allowed to bypass with infiniteHealth/NoPlayerDeath cheat.

[fervent sparrow]

alright, I will stick with the saving throw rune for right now

[scenic axle]

Nah carcasses are cool, I think they're a really well designed and interesting enemy

[low bronze]

they are very annoying but they are very damn cool! The plasma shield is a good extra challenge that forces you to swap to the plasma gun to get rid of it quick. Also I like the glory kill animations.

the one where the body on top spins around before exploding is my favorite

[sterile plume]

theyre beneficial to the game but i hate them

thats why they are good

[low bronze]

exactly

[ivory river]

I am trying to get the multilayer achievements how hard are they to get

[low bronze]

depends. you pc or console?

[ivory river]

Console

[low bronze]

ok shouldn't be too much of a bitch. I don't play multiplayer matches. But since you're on console, you'll only have to worry about sweats and cheesers.

that should lighten the load.

[ivory river]

How long should it take to find a match

[low bronze]

That.. MIGHT be an issue. I'm not sure. never took me too long but last time i tired it was like 2020/2021

i wanna guess 5 minutes?

[fallen trench]

probably more

Granted Im on switch but last time I tried it just couldn’t find anyone

[austere bronze]

not really

archviles are very high priority for obvious reasons, and barons are too, but marauders, tyrants, are pretty low priority, and doom hunters are dangerous but not super high priority

the issue with taking out super heavy demons early is that they take much longer to kill (and the doom hunter will be much more risky to blood punch), so you could maybe kill 2 heavies in the same amount of time it takes to kill 1 super heavy, which makes you rather want to go for heavies a lot of the time

[austere bronze]

in what way do you want help?

because i don't know of any scripts, but there are some commands you can use

[fervent sparrow]

if there was any scripts i can use like a godmode glitch or something

[austere bronze]

yes but you need to be playing either from the official mod portal, or have run the eternal mod injector at least once before to unlock commands

then you can use stuff like "god", "g_damageScaleAllToSlayer [x value]", "g_damageScaleAllToAI [x value]", "g_infiniteAmmo 1" and more

[storm eagle]

hi @austere bronze

[real holly]

my beloved target priority

you need a certain set of survivability skills to focus on the super heavies like the tyrant, baron or marauder while the hoard tries tearing you apart

the more consistent and reliable strat has always been to take out the support first, then the super heavies

its why master levels love endlessly regenerating heavy demons in arenas with superheavies like the marauder, they push you to do it the other, harder way which is to kill the super heavies first

thing about doom eternal is that if you know what your doing numbers aren't a problem unless ur in an enclosed arena

[austere bronze]

hello @storm eagle

[austere bronze]

wouldn't numbers be kind of the thing that makes an arena harder

wonder why you can't load checkpoint during a glory kill or chainsaw

that annoys me

[jolly kernel]

do you guys think nightmare difficulty in the base campaigns is very manageable for experienced players?
I'm obviously far from being the best DE player with me getting hit rather often and placing myself poorly at times, but I can quick swap efficiently, gain resources well and I use my arsenal well

[austere bronze]

nightmare difficulty is very doable yes

[jolly kernel]

I think of moving to nightmare difficulty after playing on ultra-violence for so long

[elder raft]

it's manageable yeah. especially with those skills. nightmare was the first difficulty i played

[austere bronze]

i'd say just give it a try, see if it works

[elder raft]

nightmare is more fun. give it a shot!

[jolly kernel]

more doable than Doom 2016 nightmare for sure imo

[vagrant minnow]

I need to boost multiplayer trophies

[low bronze]

who EVER said use remote detonate rockets on marauders
thank you

[tall patrol]

Why

[low bronze]

if you time it right, it can fly behind them and use slash damage since their backs aren't shielded

I hope thats why someone said to use them

[austere bronze]

it deals almost no damage to the marauder though

like i'm a big remote det fan, but i never use it against marauders

[clear holly]

They both doable just it's harder in early levels in Doom 2016 to play with tank approach, since damage is way higher, no damage mitingation and resources don't restore a lot. In 2016 you mostly try to avoid damage, until you upgraded well/get Armored Offensive rune/Siphon grenade.
In Eternal it's also not that easy, since you get damaged more often/enemies are more aggressive, so you should be always on a move and wrong upgrades at the start may be problematic.
But if you can quick swap well it shouldn't be problem for any of these 2.

[quiet cloud]

the best 2 ways to deal with marauders are either using ballista splash dmg at their feet just behind the shield to make them stunned
or u can lock on burst , look away and then fire them then look back at the maruader and use ssg or ballista preferebly to stun them

or u can learn to one cycle them which is easy af

[austere bronze]

i think there are a lot of good ways to deal with them

which you choose depends on situation and what you like

anything that avoids the green eye flash will always be my goat though xd

[quiet cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/gyro-zeppeli-jojo-sbr-steel-ball-run-gif-3965985935104437104

i just love being able to stun them with lock on while looking away idk why

[austere bronze]

yeah that's my favorite way to kill them too

getting a clean kill from a single lock-on redirect feels so good

[low bronze]

I love using the ballista

[austere bronze]

best weapon in the game fr

[low bronze]

I miss the guass Cannon from 2016 so the ballista will do

[slim crow]

Guass Canon was goat

Im still in love with super shotgun tho

[low bronze]

Yes

I used the guass so much in my last run

[slim crow]

Me too

[fervent sparrow]

i’m on playstation so i don’t think i can run any of those

[slim crow]

I just used guass and shotgun basically, just switching the gun if I was ran of ammo

[austere bronze]

oh yeah unfortunately not

[fervent sparrow]

is there anything else i can do besides the saving throw rune cheat?

[jaunty dragon]

i think that it's stupid how in doom eternal how we can't pilot the mechs but in dark ages we can

[torn sigil]

I think its stupid that
2016: dark and grim
Eternal (still my favourite): rainbows
The dark ages: dark and grim and cthulhu

[sterile plume]

if you wanna use splash damage sticky bombs and micro missiles at their feet works

[sterile plume]

i feel like dark ages is less dark and grim than 2016

[arctic sedge]

doom eternal fans when they see heaven limited fans pull up

[real holly]

you can shoot a hole into surface of mars ❤️

[arctic sedge]

in heaven limited you can fill a hole that's in the surface of the moon

using the SFD-11000

which stands for Small Fucking Device eleven thousand

[real holly]

fuck yes

[ivory leaf]

Just finished Horde mode in Ultra Violence. It is pretty good

[clear holly]

Wonder, is it possible to kill Marauder with Blood Punches only?

[real holly]

not really

you can't blood punch the marauder when he green flashes to stun him i think, plus you'd need to constantly go and get more blood punch fuel after ur out of bloodpunches which is really really hard to do with only the base punch

[clear holly]

What about grenades? Can they stun him?
I want to make a melee run+2 melee mods (Restored Melee and Chainsaw More Refills), but I understand that I have no idea how to kill Marauder, since he's immune to Chainsaw and Crucible.

[real holly]

granades can stun him yeah

im not entirely sure about the damage or if he blocks the explosion with his shield doe

[random basin]

Anyway to use the BFG to distract the Marauders? I'm trying to get a BFG shot on the Marauder (done it once in Horde Mode) in single player and I'm curious. I know it prioritizes the BFG because it's an instant kill so it's a viable strategy when there's ammo nearby but I'm gonna do Horde Mode whenever I get the chance and I wanna know this info.

[jagged wind]

New horde mode high score on xbox 274,850.

[jagged wind]

Nah dont try to bfg the marauders

Easy ways to kill him

[stuck lance]

if you follow a ballista stun on a marauder with a grenade and unmakyr can marauder be killed in one cycle?

[real holly]

if you shoot it and look away from the marauders it works somehow

[neon shard]

Finally beat the Icon of Sin on Nightmare, I'm pretty satisfied. Although, I died like 5 times lol

[clear holly]

I can't beat Khan Maykr on Normal. Currently on my "barebones" run and I got stuck with this boss fight. Died like 10 times already. 🫣
Pre last phase allows Khan to use "floor is lava" and beam and shoot other projectiles all at the same time and I dpn't even know how to react to it, because I also need to deal damage to Khan and kill few drones to restore ammo/health and not get killed by them (because they hit quite hard too, if ignored) and she restores shield very fast.
Does anyone have any tips?

[neon shard]

From my experiences with the fight, I like staying real close to the jump pads

And then charging up my destroyer blade as I go up and down

Anything else is just preference, but those jump pads are really the key imo

[low bronze]

started my ultra violence run of the dlc last night/this morning. That fight at the end of the first level had me wishing i was just fighting the marauder twins again man

this run is gonna make me loose my mind. I'm so hear for it

[neon shard]

The UAC Atlantica post double Marauder fight?

That one's brutal

[low bronze]

YES! Like the taras nabad marauder at the beginning beat my ass bro. So like I KNEW the twins would be awful and it DID!

[neon shard]

That Taras Nabad fight took me like 5 tries first time 😭

[low bronze]

Mine was maybe almost 10????

[neon shard]

Oh wait a second, I'm crazy

I mixed it up with the one from the Master Level

Yeah the beginning Marauder on the regular level is pretty wild as well, the Caco support is such a lethal combo

[low bronze]

Lets see, I have my messages for the twin fight. The first message was at like uh.. 4:58am and when i finally beat them it was like 5:25 am

[low bronze]

I'm not the best player tbh so he was brutal

[neon shard]

I managed to walk right up to the giant door where he spawns

And he slashed me right in the face, I was out of armor by then so I almost died

[low bronze]

i did too, but then i would dash away REAL quick

[low bronze]

That reminds me of something that happened later in the level. The dude hid from me and then jumped out and buried his axe into me head and nearly killed me in one hit. Like i was standing on a pillar because i wondered what would happen. He walked up the stairs and disappeared. The hell barriers was still up so I walked up to the main one and he came around the corner and hit me.

this was the area after getting the crucible out of the titan's chest.

I'm so upset I didn't get it on clip. I tried to get it to happen again but no

[neon shard]

Oh yeah! The one with the titan?

Like, it has a large slope of broken rubble

Now THAT arena is the one that got me the most during my first playthrough of Taras Nabad

[low bronze]

I was legit just messing around and he did that. I've never seen it happen before.

[neon shard]

It's such a deadly arena because of how little space is up top, and how much space is down below

It kinda lures you back to the beginning of the arena, which gives the demons a height advantage

[low bronze]

he also at one of my attempts at the beginning of the level, he went flying in the air towards me like what was going on 😭
The Taras Nabad water is doing something

[low bronze]

Just like the second marauder fight in the UAC atlantic facility

[neon shard]

Oh in the tiny room before the token?

[low bronze]

Yes!

[neon shard]

That arena really made me switch up my playstyle

[low bronze]

I try to remember his spawn locations in the game so I can have an advantage but I legit forgot he spawned from the back of the room

[low bronze]

Ultra violence made me change my style too

Like I thought i knew how to handle many demons and what upgrades I preferred but then I went about "Hurt me Plenty" and It changed me views

Really fun tho. I have a new style and it's more fitting to me since now I'm learning more and improving.

[neon shard]

Frfr

I will attempt to beat UAC Atlatica on Nightmare sometime this month, will be fun

I already beat The Holt on Nightmare last week, and it was one of the most enjoyable things I've ever done in this game

[low bronze]

I was gonna start my nightmare run but I'm doing dlc first. I'm NOT looking forward to the Davoth fight but I've gotta do it

[neon shard]

Oh lord. I almost finished Davoth on Nightmare but...

Those demon ghosts in the final section are so annoying

[low bronze]

if i can beat the game AND both TAG parts on ultra violence, I can do it on nightmare.

[neon shard]

So I had to turn it down a notch

Meaning I didn't get the podium...

I will retry it soon, but god

[low bronze]

*I forgot about those *

[low bronze]

most painful feeling

[neon shard]

Fr

I was almost there as well, like only one tic away

But then a Cyberdemon missile hit me

[low bronze]

"Damn I'm doing good! Maybe I'm better than I thought-"
"I'm turning the difficulty down..."

[low bronze]

damn...

[neon shard]

My big critique about the TAG bosses is how every boss relies on heavies instead of actually using memorable attacks

At least Samur had a cool vibe

But Davoth almost drowns in the fodder for me, especially the ghosts and wolves...

[low bronze]

me when i was attempting ultra nightmare and a arachnotron got me before i could reach the health pack like 5 feet away

[neon shard]

Which level?

[low bronze]

I forgot about him... Im also VERY MUCH not looking forward to that

[low bronze]

hell on earth...

[neon shard]

Oof

[low bronze]

like i said

I'm NOT the best player

[dawn bison]

eternal doom

[neon shard]

Samur does make The Holt more tedious unfortunately

[low bronze]

Yeah. I remember my first fight against him, i was so annoyed

[neon shard]

That's why I love Nekravol so much, both parts are just the perfect length to me

[low bronze]

I love Nekravol too!

[neon shard]

I wish there was a master level for Part Two, so many cool platforming areas they could've used as combat arenas

Especially the one with the red gears and fire

[low bronze]

Nice

[real holly]

samur is arguably the hardest shit in the dlc and just the whole game

[neon shard]

Imagine placing down pain elementals in there, would be insane

[low bronze]

I have attempted a master level ONCE i believe. Super Gore Nest. It didn't go well

[neon shard]

Pretty much

[real holly]

i can do it casually these days, but back when i was less experienced i hated samur with a burning passion

[neon shard]

That, and the quintuple Marauder secret encounter in the World Spear

[low bronze]

Samur is the hardest one while Davoth is the most annoying

[real holly]

huh

[neon shard]

I really dislike Davoth's heals

[low bronze]

the what now

[real holly]

you mean Slayerpalest? A mod which takes place in world spear?

[neon shard]

Oh the horrors

[real holly]

the only way to fight 5 marauders at once is with the Slayerpalest mod

which takes place in world spear

[low bronze]

please tell me it's a mod

[neon shard]

So in the first arena to the World Spear

[low bronze]

im BEGGING you

[neon shard]

First arena of the second part

[real holly]

it's a mod

[neon shard]

Like with the snow

You head back to that place after you've earned the fast travel

[real holly]

if @neon shard claims this isn't a mod I'd like video proof bc this is most definitely a mod

[neon shard]

And then there should be like a lever or axe??? behind one of the trees

[real holly]

or their baiting which is respectable

[low bronze]

Wait what's the MAX Marauders that can be in a arena base game? Is it like 3?

[neon shard]

That will activate a secret encounter with 5 Marauders

It's not a mod

[real holly]

that's not true, send video proof

[real holly]

20, but that's unplayable basically

[neon shard]

https://youtu.be/5uCAQUw4m1I

It's this

[real holly]

thanks for sharing video proof

[low bronze]

I'm talking BASE base game. No commands. Like normal

[neon shard]

I only got 1 or 2 of them when I tried

[low bronze]

the fucking horde oh great heavens

[real holly]

with the hammer the marauder is nullified

[low bronze]

I keep forgeting when to slam the hammer

[low bronze]

Like if one is already there and theres an Arch-vile, can they like summon a certain amount?

[real holly]

idk

[low bronze]

I mostly see 3

[real holly]

i never saw this before which is crazy, why did nobody ever talk about it

[neon shard]

I know right? It's pretty fun

I wish I had the skills locked down so I could beat them on Nightmare

Or lower for that matter. I think I tried it on Ultra Violence

[real holly]

tbf, you can use bfg to kill two after a stun and the hammer+lock on burst to kill another

[low bronze]

I'm horrified but also want to attempt it

[neon shard]

I love fasttravel secret encounters, wish we had more of em

[low bronze]

wait you can use the bfg on them?

[real holly]

after stunning them, yes

[neon shard]

The micromissile trick might be the best move there since you're always above them

[real holly]

the real challenge is fighting the 5 without hammer or bfg

[low bronze]

I didn't know that.

[neon shard]

Now that's the spirit

[real holly]

i already beat 5 marauders plenty of times in a modded encounter

it's basically the same as this one

[low bronze]

I forgot when to slam the hammer down on them.

[neon shard]

Right as they become stunned

[real holly]

when their stunned you do and if you lock on burst enough they will die quickly

or quickswap

[neon shard]

You shoot them once with your SSG, and then pounce

[real holly]

you can stun them with many weapons doe

[low bronze]

These guys are so much fun to fight but also piss me off

[neon shard]

The rest is just grenades and I guess a full auto shotgun

[low bronze]

thats why i love em

[neon shard]

Fr! They're prolly my favorite enemy

[real holly]

also the airblest at their feet deals decent damage

marauder is also my favorite enemy in the game

[neon shard]

One of my favorite ways to cheese them is just lock on bursting them while they jump from platform to platform

[real holly]

full auto shotgun isn't a good option for marauders

[neon shard]

Really useful in that Mars Core Master Level Marauder fight

[low bronze]

Mine too. Like number 1 favorite doom demon, dark ages revenant at number 2.

[neon shard]

What would you recommend when you also have the hammer?

[real holly]

ssg+ballista quickswap always works, but if you have the hammer you can use the lock on burst and obliterate the poor fuck

[neon shard]

Oh good call, different amo type and all that

[real holly]

usually you can't use the lock on burst bc the Marauders stun isn't slow enough, but the hammer stuns them for LONG

[low bronze]

Thats what I used to do majority of the time. I would charge up the aero blast and let it fly right when he flashes. and then ssg

[neon shard]

My regular combo is some variation of SSG+Ballista

[low bronze]

But recently I've been using remote detonate to blow up my rockets behind em and then chain gun with shield

[real holly]

a strat i like doing for marauders is something I basically stole from another player on YouTube which is using lock on burst to make his shield move to the side so i can get a clean shot with ballista or ssg, stunning them instantly without having to wait for them to green eye flash

[low bronze]

Thats a good idea

[neon shard]

There is a fun strat I was never able to pull off

Shoot his shield, and then microwave beam onto his dog

[low bronze]

I try to make my own ideas because I can never replicate other's ideas just right

Also it's to fit my play style

[real holly]

you gotta position yourself right so you have a clean shot, but while the lock on burst hits his shield, he can't move it so u can get a free shot. It's my favorite strat to use on the possesed marauder in the holt

[low bronze]

I might attempt that at some point

My play style is TRY not to stay still and to be flying around and moving everywhere

[neon shard]

I should do a DOOM Eternal enemy tierlist

[low bronze]

I need to make a favorite demon list/tier list

i keep forgetting too

[neon shard]

I found one with both 2016 and Eternal Demons, nice

[real holly]

my playstyle is "glass cannon super fast monkey", with faster glory kill, air control and speed boost on glory kill, I don't use the chaingun shield (too easy) and I use the blood punch as much as possible with no crucible usage with OCASIONAL bfg usage

[neon shard]

One that I adore is the 2016 Baron, the design paired with the green attacks is so peak

[low bronze]

Dude if this game had my guass cannon from 2016, it would be heaven

[low bronze]

My favorite version

[neon shard]

I love the Gauss

The Ballista is awesome as well, but Siegemode will never not be peak

[low bronze]

I miss my guass! I used it SO MUCH in my last play through

[low bronze]

YES

[neon shard]

I love how it looks as well

It really helps how not central it is, the Ballista can get in the way of my screen sometimes lol

Whilst the Gauss is held pretty down low

[low bronze]

yeah

[neon shard]

Ok tierlist time

Imps. Hmm...

[low bronze]

I really like being able to see my area since i'm like cyclops

One of my mods has my hud in the center of my screen around the scope so i can see my stuff eaiser.

[neon shard]

Imps are cool, not peak but cool

I like their attacks for the most part, and their behavior seems fitting

[real holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388567765475922053/1470094284911939847/doom_eternal_demon_Tierlist.png?ex=69eb9a7e&is=69ea48fe&hm=c81f9e44950f4498131f1f0e3eb10284bcc6a0b992aa0500a42f7a7948bd8141&

[low bronze]

I love imps. 2016 imps specifically

[real holly]

demon Tierlist

[low bronze]

nice

[neon shard]

I honesly love the Tyrants for how cool they look lol

[low bronze]

Im also more learning towards design. Like i could hate fighting you but i love the design

[real holly]

i used to love the tyrants

[neon shard]

I'm not sure which I prefer, maybe the Eternal variant

[low bronze]

im a big design person. One wrong thing can throw a character off.

[real holly]

but these days i only enjoy the possesed variants bc the normal variants will do everything but be a non-threatening bullet sponge

[neon shard]

Same

[neon shard]

Fair enough

Imps go in B tier for me, there's just so much cooler

[low bronze]

I lean more towards 2016 because that game if my favorite and my first doom game

[neon shard]

Was my first as well, and the aesthetic is very nice

It's hard to explain but, 2016 feels like a Mission Impossible movie

[low bronze]

I miss it tbh. Im also a sci fi person so the uac facilites was awesome

[neon shard]

Which is really cool, the lighting is so filmlike

[low bronze]

along with the ambiance

[real holly]

2016 feels like a really cool adventure bc of the fact each level ends right as the other starts, unlike Eternal which just teleports u around

[neon shard]

Lazarus Labs is the peak of that sci fi aspect to me, just so damn good

[low bronze]

Mhm!

[real holly]

it feels like Black Mesa in that regard, it's a massive trek across the Mars UAC facility

[low bronze]

the 2016 praetor suit is my favorite too. I use the ivory variant for eternal

[real holly]

pretor suit 2016 is pretty cool

[neon shard]

Ok, Lost Souls. So I haven't played the classic DOOM games yet, but Lost Souls seem pretty tame for what I can tell

I personally don't like them in their 2016 form, but the Pain Elemental projectiles are cool, I like how they eat your projectiles almost lol

[low bronze]

lemme get a demon design tier list for eternal

[neon shard]

Lost Souls go in like D tier for me

[real holly]

the only demon I think looks kind of lame in Eternal are the soldiers cause why do they have hair aren't they zombies

[neon shard]

Their Pain Elemental form really buffs them enjoyment wise

[low bronze]

ah i can't post images

[neon shard]

The 2016 soldier is aight

I don't like their design

The armor is cool ofc, but hmmmmm

They're a C tier, better than lost souls

Shield soldiers in Eternal are incredible, but the 2016 version is a bit stiff

I like how deadly they are tho

D tier again

[low bronze]

The revenant designs from favorite to least favorite:
Dark Ages, 2016, DOOM3, OG, ETERNAL

[neon shard]

Hell Razers are so funny lol. I think Hugo explained it very well but, their start animation is ridiculously long

[low bronze]

Eternal's design feels liek a downgrade from 2016. the 2016 face is so digusting to me for some reason and I love it so much

well

og and doom 3 swap

[neon shard]

I somewhat agree, I think they dumbed down the UAC look too much on some of them

Especially the Revenant

The light blue rust of the Doom Hunter is awesome tho

[low bronze]

yes. Like ok so hell is ALSO mechanizing these guys too, NOT just the UAC

[neon shard]

Mhm

Hell Razers are funny, but they come off too much as like a TABS enemy lol

I'll give them D tier

[low bronze]

I miss the hell razer

Legit one of my top 10

ever since i laid my eyes on em

[neon shard]

I do too tbh, but that's mostly cuz I love variety

[low bronze]

i remember watching a video of all the eternal demons back in 2020 because i wanted to see em and i was like "wheres the razer"

[neon shard]

Both Possessed variants from 2016 are nice

C tier for sure

The flaming zombie is uhh

Interesting, I like the Cueball way better

I'll bump the Hell Razer to C for the design

Unwilling are fun fodder, I like testing weapon mods on them

2016 Cacodemons... Terrifying. I do feel like their placements in levels really buff them up, they always jumpscare me

I'll give them a B tier since there isn't any funny ways to defeat them like in Eternal

2016 Cybermancs are cool, I like their design and colors. The aoe damage is so much nicer in 2016, which makes me look forward to them somewhat

They can go in B tier for now

[low bronze]

I wish there wa sa vr version of eternal like 2016. I think it would be silly. My first DOOM game WAS 2016, but it was the VFR version actually! I miss it

[neon shard]

I can already imagine how the platforming in like Cultist Base would be, sounds like fun

Ok, 2016 Hell Knights 🥹

So those go in S tier. Their design is awesome, their attacks are awesome, and they're the best use of cool SSG combos

[low bronze]

I want to get up and close to the demons again like you could in VFR! i am a HUGE sucker for design and details, I love using blender to see stuff you usually can't see!

[neon shard]

The Marauder fight would be so intense

[low bronze]

I didn't think about that bro oh no

but the icon of sin fight would be AWESOME!

[neon shard]

Imagine the leadup scene to Kalibas

[low bronze]

But they dumbed down the fights for vr in the areas in VFR 2016 so they would've probably dumbed that one too

I should get VFR again

I played in on i think ps4-ps5

i don't remember

[neon shard]

Eternal Hell Knights, I don't know how to feel about them

Their design in 2016 was so striking, the eyes really dumbed it down for me

Their moves are still good tho, I believe they removed the smaller like fireball effects but I'm not sure. I'll give them A tier

The 2016 Manc is cool I guess, I feel like they're really missing everything Eternal gave it

B tier

[austere bronze]

if you have the hammer, full auto is definitely solid

it becomes a really easy and ammo efficient kill

even without the hammer you can one cycle him with full auto

[graceful current]

I'd love a second Doom VR attempt but by a dedicated VR studio this time

[low bronze]

exactly bro. I need it

[nocturne basalt]

Doom Dark Ages in VR/j

[graceful current]

that would run like dogshit

[nocturne basalt]

Lol

[low bronze]

i've play doom 1 on vrc but it was awful

anyhow

onto my second dlc level

i pressed the wrong damn button and closed the game

[low bronze]

how do i turn off auto swap. I don't see it in settings

wasted a bfg round

[low bronze]

this sandbox ui is a little confusing

[low bronze]

does anyone else have a drop in visual quality when playign with mods

[real holly]

really? Is the ammo return from killing the marauder good enough?

[austere bronze]

even if you only use the full auto and no grenades, hammer, or anything to daze him, you'll go minus 7 or 8 shells after killing him

since he's a superheavy you get 9 shells back

full auto is in general pretty strong because of the 6 or 9 shell return

not counting fodder which drop 3

[real holly]

its fun to switch to the auto right as the super heavy is staggered

i think I'd use it more if it gave ammo of all types instead of just shotgun ammo but i can see why that's not the case, the whole point of the mastery is encouraging the player to use the auto shotgun like crazy

but i certainly wouldn't put it as low as i do if it functioned as an alternative chainsaw

but then again, the chainsaw is right there

the whole usefulness of the ammo return is kind of nullified to me just because the chainsaw exists

like i use stickybombs alot for restacking alongside the flamebench so having to switch on that mid combat while a super heavy is staggered and everyone else is jumping me? I'd rather just find a fodder to chainsaw

[jolly elk]

Anyone play Doom Eternal on Switch/Switch 2?

[wicked sentinel]

I play, I've already played 3 and 2016, I've already got all toys and a good ranking in horde mode on ultraviolence

[gaunt smelt]

me

for me the only issue is the cutscenes being like 30 fps

[austere bronze]

you can swap to it pre-emptively and use it as a finisher

it has high dps and the return on kill makes it super ammo efficient

and chainsawing is something you'll realistically want to avoid as much as possible since you're compromising your positioning, so if you can decrease the need for it, that's good

[real holly]

how it feels to panic blood punch after chainsawing bc theres 3 heavies, 4 fodders and a super heavy around you

[vagrant minnow]

Need help with boosting multiplayer kills

[pliant venture]

I refused to join the server until I actually got all six Empyrean keys…and after around 12 hours of commitment I finally managed to get all six keys, and I got the legendary Unmakyr and I am so proud of myself

Since this was my first run through the game, I was on the hurt me plenty difficulty

[austere bronze]

ggs, well done!

[modern pumice]

fr?

[austere bronze]

huh?

yeah?

[modern pumice]

you serious?

[austere bronze]

yeah?? why wouldn't i be

[pliant venture]

I am very confused

[modern pumice]

ok friend

[austere bronze]

me too😭

[austere bronze]

why wouldn't i be serious though

[modern pumice]

js dunno

[austere bronze]

ah nicee, you planning on replaying it?

[austere bronze]

okay so you question if i was serious, but have no idea why😭

[jagged wind]

Good job dude! Them slayer gates can get crazy.

[pliant venture]

I might play ultraviolence… but I’m not sure

[modern pumice]

i guess

[pliant venture]

no kidding! I was sweating

[jagged wind]

Definitely try UV.

[pliant venture]

Is there a NG plus option?

[jagged wind]

The Holt slayer gate is the craziest one in TAG

[pliant venture]

I forgot which one that was

[austere bronze]

you got UV! HMP seems pretty comfortable to you ;>

[jagged wind]

What is NG?

[austere bronze]

you got master levels, which are normal levels but much harder that you can play from a campaign, so you start them maxed out

[pliant venture]

New game plus

[pliant venture]

Gotcha

[austere bronze]

arc and cultist are pretty chill, but the rest can get brutal

[pliant venture]

The second to last was the worst! It was spamming dread knights

[jagged wind]

Master levels are so good. Im a huge horde mode fan

[austere bronze]

are you talking about the slayer gates?

[pliant venture]

I deal with a lot of anxiety, so this game has actually been helping me take out my adrenaline greatly

[pliant venture]

Yep

[jagged wind]

Definitely try horde mode and the master levels

[pliant venture]

Yeah, I want the golden shotgun skin

[jagged wind]

It helps tremendously with anxiety

Horde mode is addicting IMO

And now I want imos pizza

[pliant venture]

Yeah, because my anxiety gives me so much adrenaline that my heart rate spikes up to 140… so it’s actually really good for me

[jagged wind]

Heck ya dude. Ill be sweating when I do my UN runs or trying to get a new high score on Horde mode

[pliant venture]

I’m gonna wanna do my basic nightmare run before I consider UN

[jagged wind]

Ya absolutely dude. Nightmare is the funnest once you get the flow down

[austere bronze]

that's definitely the right way to go lol

[clear holly]

Is there any video on Archvile behavior?

[jagged wind]

Not that im aware of but thatd be dope

[austere bronze]

not sure, is there anything specific you want to know?

[clear holly]

I'm currently plan to finish last fight arena before Final Sin boss and I think I would struggle with this battle a lot again (already died few times), since there is Archvile in the end. So far it's hardest non-boss enemy for "barebones" run with no BFG/Crucible usage.
And I was thinking is there any way to deal with Archvile more effectively?
It seems that if I'm far away from it, it despawns and respawn enemies near me again, but not sure about that. So I was thinking is it a good tactic to run away from it to furthest part of arena?
Also it seems that shooting rockets near it is best way to stagger Archvile without it running away. Is it correct?

[jagged wind]

I use ice bomb and two lock on burst volleys. Thats the quickest way. I will also use frag grenades for stagger and destroyer blade

I seek and destroy them as soon as I can. As
Also sticky bombs are underrated for heavier demons

[clear holly]

I use all bombs+Rocket Launcher (don't have Lock On)+Ballista. Stun, attack, freeze, attack and then I try to retreat, if I'm low on health already. I use sticky bombs, but their damage isn't effecient vs such tanky enemies, I think.

[sinful dune]

Hey guys, Im a doom eternal switch player and I was wondering if any of you guys had doom eternal on switch

[jagged wind]

Id also do energy shield if you did all that and he is still alive. You could even try the slow down rune if it helps. You dont have lock on Burst mod on the last level?

And of course blood punch with the energy shield or while froze

And of course dont give it time to spawn demons. That ssg or blood punch or grenade will destroy his fire wall thingy

[clear holly]

I do "barebones/minimalistic" run on Normal (+2 melee mods, but they are for regular melee and chainsaw refills). I don't have any weapon mods, any upgrades, runes etc. I don't even have Assault Rifle/Chaingun. Also I try not to use BFG/Crucible. Though, if I die few more times, I guess I would just use Crucible on it. These folks are really mean. 😵‍💫
Yeah, I use Blood Punch on it, when I have one. It's just hard to recharge Blood Punch, when Archvile already activated powers/spawns.

[austere bronze]

where you are doesn't really impact whether they spawn enemies or not, archviles' 3 abilities (spawning/buffing, lava pool, rolling fire) each have a 5 second cooldown too, though if you're far away they won't do their rolling fire attack, which would probably increase the risk of them spawning enemies

archviles' teleportation is annoyingly unpredictable, but if you lock-on to them they will teleport, getting close often causes teleportation, and dealing damage or interrupting their spawning animation can sometimes make them teleport

faltering them prevents them teleporting

[austere bronze]

sounds really painful😭

big ggs for making it so far

[clear holly]

Thank you very much for support and this info! I would try to incorporate this. ❤️
It's not even problem with this Archvile only/Archviles in general, but that in this last arena it spawns right at the end of the fight after Marauder and I don't have time to deal enough damage or restore my resources. Probably need to return to my tactic to keep distance and run around more like headless chicken during fight and kill all other heavy enemies before Marauder to have better access to fodder and less danger around me. Also probably need to use 2nd floor more somehow.

It is pain, indeed. It was quite fine on Normal until Taras Nabad. Archviles were the biggest difficulty spike there. Then Nekravol was mostly fine and Urdak was pure nightmare. A lot of heavy enemies in small arenas. Then I died 13 times on Khan Maykr, until figured out that Plasma Rifle is very effective against her. Currently half of the deaths (42) related to Urdak only. 💀
I would probably use super weapons (BFG/Crucible) in Final Sin fight, since I have no idea how to finish it otherwise. I remember even Barons spawn there. I also remember that upper floor is best to fight Icon of Sin in 1st phase, but it was on regular runs, where I didn't have any restrictions and was always fully upgraded.

[junior adder]

This one is good, the emo one is better but this one has pretty looks

[jolly elk]

Nice 👍

[jolly elk]

Yep true it's 30 fps lol

And when i try for multiplayer, i think not many people play Doom Eternal for multiplayer

So it would be so hard to find people on Switch/Switch 2 i think 🤔

[jolly elk]

Ohh wow nice man 😮

[jolly elk]

Or in Switch/Switch 2 can crossplay with PS4/PS5, Xbox One/Xbox Series X and S, and PC? 🤔

[wicked sentinel]

Yes, it's really cool. I was in 20th place in horde mode, but now I'm in 23rd place in ultraviolence

It was quite difficult and fun to get all the miniatures for the game

[gaunt smelt]

I haven’t touched multiplayer bc I’m scared I’m gonna get clowned on 😭

[jolly elk]

Especially when we cross the obstacles to get all miniatures haha

[jolly elk]

It's ok no one's want gonna be pro, just wanna have some fun tho 😁

[fresh sable]

Does anyone still play the multi-player or are the servers dead?

[gusty trench]

People definitely still play but, they're all sweats

[neon shard]

Oof

[toxic charm]

I can't get the zombie skin in DOOM ETERNAL, Does anyone is having this problem too?

[gusty trench]

It was a slayers club exclusive thing. They've discontinued it since. I think you can send an email to them asking for it though

[brittle raven]

Have anyone done the ancient of gods 1 and 2

[low bronze]

The second arena of the holt is kicking my ass

[brittle raven]

I completed number 1 and I'm doing number two of ancient gods

[low bronze]

battlemode time

pray for my chat

i can NOT get into a match

i got in one

nvm im going back to main game

horde mode lets go

[jolly elk]

I was playing multiplayer using Switch 2 and i couldn't find anyone there

[low bronze]

i'm not finishing this level

master level sucks

[austere bronze]

i don't think master levels suck, but they are challenging

[low bronze]

It doesn't suck but it was very challenging. I had to quit becasue of the time. I was on the big arena fight before i installed the other 2 keys

i was doing so good but i just couldn't keep up

made it that far tho. Thats good

[austere bronze]

for sure

[proven siren]

Anyone remember the slayer gate on mission 3 of The Ancient Gods?

[austere bronze]

yes

[proven siren]

It's hard

Dare I say: too hard

And I demand a nerf

[austere bronze]

i don't think it's too hard, it's a completely optional encounter after all

and this is already the third version of it

[proven siren]

optional........

They should make this encounter mandatory to continue the DLC

[vagrant minnow]

Need help with boosting multiplayer kills

[fringe torrent]

Sure but then the 20 dollar DLC would have like 10% less collectibles

[fresh sable]

Yeah I been trying to platinum the game but does multi player trophys are becoming a problem

And any time I manage to actually get into a match some either times out or they just wreck me

[unreal flare]

Do you guys think the Super Gore Nest Master Level in Classic Mode is even doable

[ivory leaf]

Yeah. I did it on Ultra Violence. Was quite the challenge but if you use everything youre getting then you should be good to go

And the room with the Marauder and two Archnotrons, when you unlock that closed door youre getting the Crucible

[unreal flare]

How do you deal with the first Tyrant of the level? Do you just... shotgun it until it dies?

[ivory leaf]

Right after getting the Red Demon Key

[ivory leaf]

If I remember right you get another weapon so switch all the time, use freeze, frag, belch, everything you can to deal damage. Use both mods

[unreal flare]

I had nothing else I fear

And no weapon mods

[ivory leaf]

Oh right you unlock those later on

[unreal flare]

I started, made my way to the first big room, no upgrades

Just the base shotgun

[ivory leaf]

Then yeah. Just shotgun it until it dies

[unreal flare]

And so either I did miss another weapon at the very beginning of the level or I'm expected to shoot the Tyrant like 40 times

[ivory leaf]

But you can do any difficulty you want. Youre not expected to go UV or Nightmare

In Horde Mode can I just ignore the Bounty demons in mission 3?

[austere bronze]

blood punch is probably your friend

as well as frags and ice grenade

ideally you'll go in with max health and armor, so if you freeze and flame the tyrant you can regain BPs that way and hopefully hit him with like 4 of them

[jagged wind]

Today shall be catching up on some dr stone and of course some Doom eternal

[pearl pollen]

yeah ive done it on nightmare

[pearl pollen]

yes 😭

just use ur equipment well and then know where the weapon spots are

[unreal flare]

Man this game's ruthless sometimes

[austere bronze]

absolutely

i'm getting demolished😭

[vernal mica]

ive been trying to beat it for roughly 4 hours now, i have all 3 keys and cant get past the third archvile they throw at me

[unreal flare]

You got a lot more willpower than I do, I've been crashing out for 2 hours trying to do that Master Level

in my defense it was my first ever attempt

I'd never tackled the Master Levels before

[royal yoke]

They're all doable just takes some practice

[pearl pollen]

ngl u probably should’ve started with arc complex ml first then (or cultist base ml if u have it)

those 2 are significantly easier than the other master levels

[unreal flare]

oh idk I was just going down the list

I guess I'll try Cultist Base next time

[vernal mica]

this showed me that im abysmally bad at doom cuz im pretty sure im on hurt me plenty

also i have no idea how to get the ballista from up there

[unreal flare]

hopefully they don't pull the "2 marauders over pain floors" card again

that was definitely a bit much

yeah I can handle getting my ass kicked by like 7 Cyber Mancubi even though I hate fighting them but I draw the line at weird Marauder arenas

[unreal flare]

I've done everything on Nightmare so far, UV MAXXED most of Classic Doom, yet to play Doom 3 however

[pearl pollen]

sgn master level is the easiest of the legitimate master levels

[unreal flare]

I thought you said Arc Complex and Cultist Base were the easiest

[jagged wind]

Arc complex is the easiest

[vernal mica]

youre much more experienced than me cuz i only played 2016 and eternal. never played past the first 3 levels of 1993

[pearl pollen]

cultist base and arc MLs were made before the games release which is why they are so much easier than the rest of the MLs (and also why they yield no rewards and only have ITYD -Nightmare)

[vernal mica]

i am planning to run it on a calculator though xdd

[unreal flare]

Honestly Classic Doom is fun albeit a bit dated, definitely give it a shot

[pearl pollen]

the other master levels were made post release when they realized how good the players were which is why theyre so hard

[unreal flare]

Ohhh yeah that explains it

they definitely want you to quickswitch all the time in these ones

problem is I'm really bad at quickswitching

I bound quickswitch to mouse3 because I didn't know what I was doing but surely there's a better binding

What would you recommend?

[pearl pollen]

start with just ssg and ballista

[pearl pollen]

i lowk just use default binds 😭

[unreal flare]

what's the default bind for it again?

[drowsy wedge]

just use keys that are easy for you

but also you should be learning to swap between specific guns instead of only relying on the quick swap key since that only goes between 2

[unreal flare]

I tend to just switch weapons directly from their slots instead of using the weapon wheel

[drowsy wedge]

yeah dont use the weapon wheel

[unreal flare]

Most of them are easy to access, being on each side of ESDF (which I use for movement)

but then I have a few binds above ESDF which aren't comfortable to reach so you'll rarely ever catch me swap to them

and those weapons are the crucible, chaingun and BFG/unmaykr

[drowsy wedge]

the number keys are hard to press?

[unreal flare]

I mean yeah honestly it feels clunky to swap with weapons from the number keys in a game as fast paced as Eternal

It was already bad with Classic Doom but you could simply chalk it up to the games being old

[drowsy wedge]

i dont see how its any different as long as they arent super far away

like i just use 1-4 and then the others are keys around WASD

[unreal flare]

I mean have you tried reaching 7 8 or 9 with WASD

[austere bronze]

yeah number keys aren't as good as keys to the side

[unreal flare]

I had to rebind that for sure

[drowsy wedge]

as long as they arent super far away

[unreal flare]

So I just have 2 3 and 4 for weapons

pretty sure I had 1 for the base pistol in 2016 too

[austere bronze]

but quick swaps aren't required for master levels

[pearl pollen]

5 -> 6

[austere bronze]

more important is that you can just swap between weapons comfortably

[unreal flare]

oh no I meant the general bind for quickswitching, dw I know the keys to my SSG and balista

[vernal mica]

q i think

[unreal flare]

ah crap that's where I put my plasma rifle

I'll try to find a workaround instead of having the quickswitching bind on mousewheel click

[austere bronze]

if you want to be swapping between weapons a lot, don't use the quick switch bind

[pearl pollen]

ive only gone up to 7 since i have T for bfg/unmayker (2016 muscle memory)

[royal yoke]

Imo better to rebind quickswap weapons to keys close to WASD or whatever your movement keys are

[drowsy wedge]

yeah we were all just talking about doing that

[austere bronze]

as long as you don't get stuck in that combo though xd

if you almost only do ssg+ballista, you'll be worse off than if you didn't quick swap

[royal yoke]

Pb quickswaps are good to learn (pb sticky, pb rocket, pb ballista, pb ssg) first, then move on to more advanced stuff like slobs, modswap cancels, punchswaps

That said game can be played without it too

[pearl pollen]

yeah 😭

i think its good for beginners tho since its slow

[vernal mica]

im genuinely considering giving up, this fight lwk too hard for me

[royal yoke]

Which fight? Sorry just catching up

[vernal mica]

4 tyrants then 2 archviles then another archvile and another tyrant without letting any archvile summon is way above my skill

[vernal mica]

super gore nest master level

on classic mode, got all 3 keys and am in the big room

[pearl pollen]

what weapons do you have?

[vernal mica]

i think all of them

finally figured out how to get the ballista

[austere bronze]

ngl slobs feel easier than pb+sticky

pb+sticky isn't really worth learning for many

[royal yoke]

True once you learn slobs, and pb sticky isn't very high damage but I'd still recommend learning it, gives base for multiweapon combos like pb sticky rocket ballista

[royal yoke]

Save ice bomb for arch viles, two of them should spawn in the center. With good aim you should be able to freeze both. Iirc they spawn after 3 tyrants are killed.

The third one is a little nasty but you can interrupt his spawns with a ballista shot for example

[vernal mica]

i completely forgot you can freeze them, thank you

this will make things so much easier

[royal yoke]

After freezing just spam lock on rockets. Also remember frag grenade will falter them

[vernal mica]

i have one crucible charge left that i used for one of the first ones, but now i can just use it on the third one

[royal yoke]

Oh yeah that'll work

And p sure its 3 tyrants before they spawn so remember to chainsaw for ammo before

[tall patrol]

Im trying to learn punch cancel but it doesn't work why

[royal yoke]

Punchswap? For which weapon?

Asking because for ballista you can keep holding fire but for example rocket you must time pressing fire.

Plus you must "prime" punchswap with say pb rocket first to enable fast state

[austere bronze]

sure but if your only goal is improving, learning quick swaps isn't very high on the list at all

especially pb+sticky

[austere bronze]

you need to press the weapon's bind after punching

[royal yoke]

Fair enough

[royal yoke]

And this

[vernal mica]

what is a slob?

[austere bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_k7ZgLTXXw

[royal yoke]

Sylar lock on burst, pb into rocket- lock on burst fast (see above)

[vernal mica]

wow ok

gotta learn that

[royal yoke]

Yep fairly simple and high damage. Especially useful against arch viles and marauders

Well anything really

Btw I do realize I look like some random dude just showing up to give advice.
I used to be on this server years ago and played Eternal since release, fwiw

[austere bronze]

nah we're all just random dudes giving advice <3

[vernal mica]

random people giving advice are the most reliable information sources

[austere bronze]

well.. that depends on the exact person xd

but you can trust me because yes

[royal yoke]

Yeah but I just (re) joined the server literally an hour ago, lols

[austere bronze]

fair enough, you seem good at the game thoo

[vernal mica]

i mean if you got doomguy in your pfp, i trust you to the FULLEST extent to educate me on doom

[austere bronze]

i'd do the opposite😭

there's tons of people with doomguy in their pfp or name

[vernal mica]

its a coinflip really

[royal yoke]

Not only that, it's a sneakily photoshopped doomguy too (says "it's fcked" in finnish basically)

[royal yoke]

Wish I still had my YT, I could prove it 😆

[austere bronze]

you should record something!

[royal yoke]

Yeah maybe one day again, plus I need to shake off the rust big time first
Anyhow glad to see people still playing Eternal!

I'm actually 42 years old, grew up with the og Doom

[gusty swan]

Doom Eternal is dead

[wise atlas]

tru bro 😭

[austere bronze]

it isn't though?

[gusty swan]

Almost impossible to find matches

[storm eagle]

Battlemode is different

[austere bronze]

almost everyone plays singleplayer, and those who do play online usually play modded multiplayer

[gusty swan]

They should have bots

[wise atlas]

but that would make it too easy

i zrill cant find matchews

[vernal mica]

i hate when games known for their singleplayer greatness have a multiplayer which holds over half the achievements but is entirely dead

first ac black flag, now doom 2016 and eternal
cant escape them

[wise atlas]

like pvz garden warfare lmao

[clear holly]

Same. But when you can achieve it with bots - it's fine for me.

[royal yoke]

Gonna quote a random comment from YT here:
The ages might be dark, but doom is... eternal

[storm eagle]

It was made to be a single player game. Look for strictly multiplayer games then.

[vernal mica]

i mean it as in i dont want to play the multiplayer part, but i have to play it if i want to 100% the game on steam

[royal yoke]

As I recall battlemode was dead-ish a few years back

Tbh I'm not sure why it was at least trying something new as opposed to regular run of the mill deathmatch

[storm eagle]

Yeah, I get that. It's like that with a lot of games, even RE. I've just accepted it.

Sorry, I had misread what you said

[clear holly]

Yeah, that's why when I played Doom 2016/Eternal first time and cared about achievements back then I started them on my alt account, since didn't know, if I would be able to finish MP one.
But then after some time I'm like whatever - I just want to play it, even if I don't get 100% or would need to SAM it.
But still sad a bit. Especially when a lot are related to it like in case with Serious Sam HD. 🫤

[vernal mica]

i finally did it, i beat that fight

[vernal mica]

this worked perfectly, thank you so much

[royal yoke]

Heh, glad it helped

[vernal mica]

now to finish this level after like 6 hours of trial, error and hating archviles with every fibre of my being

hopefully nothing hard will come up

[royal yoke]

It's just the run to the exit but spiced up. Same logic applies as with normal level, run

As I recall there's one tyrant in the run. Tip: use it as meathook target to fling yourself up quick

[vernal mica]

i got jumped by an empowered tyrant and marauder. got shotgunned and stomped to death

[royal yoke]

You should be able to exit without fighting the marauder or just stun him once tops

[vernal mica]

this time i ran past him but straight into a doom hunter

[royal yoke]

Freeze the doom hunter and move on

You don't have to actually kill any of the enemies on the way out

[vernal mica]

i did it

this was so hard

and this was on hurt me plenty i think

[royal yoke]

Oh just wait till taras nabad ml...

Let alone world spear ml

Make SGN look like practice mode

[vernal mica]

do you have to do every difficulty separately to get the rewards or will you unlock everything from the easier difficulties?

[royal yoke]

Higher difficulties will auto unlock lower ones

[vernal mica]

ok good to know

[royal yoke]

Yeah, no need to rerun on itytd after nightmare, lols

[vernal mica]

im gonna try to do it now on classic mode because that slayer skin looks cool

horrible decision probably but i wanna see how bad it really is

[royal yoke]

Honestly do it regular mode first to learn it, it's very long level and better have all your gear on first run.
Trust me there's a bit where you absolutely need bfg and on classic you have one shot to get it

[vernal mica]

ok well the first bit isnt as bad as a whole tyrant

so far, only killed 2 arachnotrons

[royal yoke]

Oh it'll get worse... soon...

[vernal mica]

take it back, got hit with all of the above

2 of every heavy demon just swooped in

[vernal mica]

im gonna do that

[royal yoke]

The arena that introduces the arch vile normally has a massive fight now, for instance.
A great fight tho, probably my fav of all fights

[royal yoke]

Good idea. There are actually 2 bits that massively benefit from having a bfg shot.
Doable without, yes, but way harder.
You'll see when you get there...

[vernal mica]

is the unmaykr as useles here as anywhere else?

[royal yoke]

On classic mode tho you'll only have the bfg for the latter bit, if you get it, and like said it's 1 chance to get it, without spoiling more

[royal yoke]

The bits where you "need" the bfg would benefit little from having the unmaykr, let's put it that way

[vernal mica]

the blueberry was a trap and i got jumped by 2 barons

didnt expect that

[royal yoke]

The blueberry is always a trap...

[fringe torrent]

Unmaykr is only good in the IoS fight in my experience and even then it's not needed even on NM

[jade merlin]

it is tho

[austere bronze]

the unmaykr isn't needed

[fringe torrent]

That was in response to a different deleted message

[austere bronze]

ohh😭 makes sense

[royal yoke]

So... you guys would be up for me recording or streaming Eternal?
Streaming I could do some day sure, at least.
Call it an Eternal veteran trying to get back into it (and likely failing miserably)

[ivory leaf]

Just completed all Milestones in Horde Mode

[pale bobcat]

How hard is horde I’m just about done with ancient gods 2

[candid dawn]

It gets pretty insane towards the end, probably more so than some of the master levels even, but they also give you tons of extra lives throughout the whole thing

[jagged wind]

Bro its so much fun. Im addicted to it. It can get pretty hard. Especially towards the end. I dont wanna spoil it but it gets wild

[shrewd chasm]

I just finished all the ancient gods milestones

The only ones I have left to fully complete is the ultra nightmare milestones

[hollow pendant]

I only used Unmaykr on master levels to dispose quickly of a Tyrant using an ice bomb and 13-15 point blank bullets because they usually spawn on pairs as minimum.

[shrewd chasm]

I'm also streaming if you guys would like to watch me play horde mode

[shrewd chasm]

It's ok if you guys don't want to. It's just an offer because it's my first time streaming

[jagged wind]

Where at?

[empty veldt]

need help boosting multiplayer trophies
ps5
psn: missaelmachado

jj

[last hamlet]

Yes soley because it uses BFG ammo and is so hard to get

[vagrant minnow]

Need help boosting multiplayer kills

[surreal bear]

how do i make my movement faster

[drowsy wedge]

dash

[upbeat dirge]

you can dash and use meathook for fast traversal.
also you can press space while meathooking to launch yourself really high up into the air.

[austere bronze]

dashing, preferably single dashing which is where you only use the first dash, but as soon as it comes off cooldown and save the second for when you need it

bhopping, which is where you try to jump as soon as you land, done correctly this will give you more speed

meathooking/yeethooking (or hook slinging, whatever you wanna call it), the latter is where you meathook a demon, hold A or D to gain massive momentum, and then detach by swapping weapon, punching, looking away, or simply building up too much speed

ballista boosting, this is where you walk forward (or have any forward momentum), jump, look back, fire the ballista, and look back forward

if you use air control you must let go of all movement keys before looking backwards, and you can press them when you're looking forward again

you can use the blood fueled rune to make walking faster, but ideally you'll not really be walking at all, so i personally don't use it

[vernal mica]

what exactly do the difficulties change? so the monsters just do more damage and have more health?

[low bronze]

demons become faster, they hit harder, more spawn and harder ones spawn in areas they weren't in before

[austere bronze]

partially right

difficulty increases how much damage demons deal, and how frequently they can attack and use their more powerful attacks, and nothing else (such as demon hp or spawns)

itytd has damage scaling at 40%, hmp 70%, uv 100% and nm 200%

then there's the token system, which every time a demon wants to perform a non-melee attack, they have to spend tokens (which do regenerate)
more powerful attacks=more tokens spent, and on higher difficulties demons have access to more tokens

technically there are some changes specifically from itytd to hmp (or any other difficulty) too, like the armored baron having his mace light green for longer and pickups being worth more on itytd

[ivory leaf]

Only Ultra Nightmare left on Super Gore Nest Master Level I really am improving

[vernal mica]

im stuck in the room of the taras nabad master level where there are 2 invulnerable archviles, any tips?

[austere bronze]

https://youtu.be/JnxdrRuK290?is=RY6vUH-PkHYq0mFv

[vernal mica]

you cant be fr

i struggled for half an hour while i couldve just done that

thank you so much for this

[neon shard]

I love using it, I just wish it used less ammo…

[austere bronze]

yeah i unfortunately think it presents no utility currently

but more fun than the bfg for sure

[neon shard]

Another unfortunate thing is the lack of weapon skins

I wish there was a classic DOOM 64 inspired Unmaykr skin

[quiet cloud]

go in get down in the pathway thats under the archvilles : lock on burst and kill one dreadnight and then meathook, bloodpunch the other
as soon as the tyrants spawn in use ice bomb on one and lock on burst twice and then use all of weapons to take that guy down then deal with the other tyrant somehow
by that time ur ice bomb will have recharged use it on the archvilles and kill them with lock on burst
or u can use crucible on the tyrants and bfg the archvilles

[real holly]

im the one blood fueled fan

[winged depot]

Hello, guys.
Do you have the feeling thaf sometimes you don't know what you are doing on a level but after a month for example, you suddenly lock in?

[sudden sequoia]

no

i need yt guides

[winged depot]

Well, that happened to me rn

[sudden sequoia]

type shi

[winged depot]

I would like to mention the World Spear is the only master level i haven't beated yet.

It's too long.

[sudden sequoia]

i beat it on extra life mode

UN is to hard

[gaunt smelt]

Ok so I took a break from TAG2 Nightmare and honestly so far it’s look like I could’ve just done Ultra Nightmare, I haven’t lost any of my lives and I’m almost done with Reclaimed Earth

But then again on the base campaign I still haven’t made it past Exultia on UN only because I’ve died to the last arena like 3 times, one time all I had to do was get rid of like one arachnotron

[austere bronze]

isn't that maybe just you improving then

[austere bronze]

wish there was any good yt guide for this game that wasn't about weapon tech😭

[gaunt smelt]

Ok actually nvm

[jolly kernel]

out of 2016 and Eternal, which one do you guys think has the easier nightmare difficulty?

[sudden sequoia]

eternal

2016 on UN is hell

[patent stream]

2016 nightmare was not balanced well at all.

[upbeat dirge]

wait really?
ive never played 2016 on nightmare, ive always thought that it was too easy...

[sudden sequoia]

the imps

can kill you like one hit

[patent stream]

The way it works is all damage is insanely high

And you get almost nothing from heals

So it’s balanced horribly

When you try to glory kill for the 5 hp. You get hit scanned by a quick imp fireball for 20-30hp

[sudden sequoia]

do it on UN you'll come out changed

[upbeat dirge]

nah bro i dont wanna suffer

[sudden sequoia]

its fun

[shrewd chasm]

@jagged wind I'm streaming again if you would like to watch I believe you just have to go to my account

[jagged wind]

Aight homie

[jagged wind]

Bro nightmare is the funnest way to play once you learn the formula. You won't go back to easier settings once you get it down. Its so much fun. It took me a bit but once it clicked it clicked

[upbeat dirge]

we are talking about the doom 2016 nightmare.
in doom eternal i play on nightmare.

[jagged wind]

Oh haha well same thing. Nightmare is the funnest once you get the hang of it. Except falling g off ledges that still sucks.

[upbeat dirge]

falling off ledges atleast does not kill you in eternal

[mint apex]

Wsg

[jagged wind]

Thank goodness I love that. They got some crazy platforming haha

[shrewd chasm]

Just in case someones interested I'm streaming doom eternal horde mode and I'll be streaming the ancient gods after

Not forcing anyone

Just letting y'all know

[clear holly]

2016 is easier for me, but solely because I have way more hours in 2016 than in Eternal and I play it more often.

I would say they both hard, but in different ways:

• 2016 is less forgiving for mistakes like at the start or with platforming etc. With its 3.0 damage and until you upgrade enough or have strong tools to restore health/armor you mostly need to avoid damage or properly/tactically manage resources. Earlier game is quite hard for new players as result. Basically its balance as min-max and you are mostly glass cannon, until you get enough tools. But when you get enough strong tools you can get quite easy through a game at the end of it.
• Eternal gives better mobility, more forgiving with damage resistance, gives same amount of resources on all difficulties and while on average it feels harder due to high damage+more enemies+enemies being more aggressive and before you upgrade well enough you can often be in "red zone" its experience is a bit more equal with difficulty progression during normal playtrough and balanced in fun/more engaging way. I would say it has more optimal balance compared to 2016.

But yeah, both could be hard for unexperienced players, which don't know how to approach them.

[clear holly]

There is less platforming in 2016 one, though. But yeah - agree. It's pain to die from it. 😵‍💫 But to my surprise Eternal has also issue with it during fights same as 2016 has with GKs - after you was teleported you can be damaged before you get ability to move/shoot.

[austere bronze]

yeah that's the most annoying part with not using the shield in eternal imo

falling into a death plane and taking tons of damage without being able to do anything about it

unless you use a fib but no one does that

[sudden sequoia]

Some of you yap to much

[upbeat dirge]

there is rarely any spots where pits appear during combat encounters tho...

[upbeat dirge]

ragebait

[austere bronze]

yeah but there are spots where you'll fall into deathplanes because you're "outside" the map

[fringe torrent]

"Some of you yap too much" with "powerscaling's fun" in bio 🥀

[austere bronze]

or even sometimes where you hit a deathplane sideways, but that's really rare

[upbeat dirge]

what is powerscaling tho

[sudden sequoia]

no I’m serious

[austere bronze]

only commonly happens in one area in one battle in super gore nest

[sudden sequoia]

ok fine

[fringe torrent]

Screaming competition

[upbeat dirge]

another ragebait lolllllllll

[sudden sequoia]

Bang bang bang

[upbeat dirge]

what is bro talking about

[austere bronze]

on a platform for talking, but complains when people talk...

[sudden sequoia]

Doom slayer is infinite layers into high boundless+++!

[sudden sequoia]

I’m just playinggg

[upbeat dirge]

how it feels to put 3 same letters at the end of a message🔥

[sudden sequoia]

ur so mean

[upbeat dirge]

am not mean

[sudden sequoia]

very mean

[austere bronze]

lowkey should learn it though

[upbeat dirge]

youve roasted us for talking too much, and 3 minutes later saying that am mean for litteraly no reason...

[austere bronze]

it'd actually be useful to be able to get away before i'm technically able to move after falling into a deathplane

[sudden sequoia]

because

it’s a joke

We like playing here

[upbeat dirge]

uhh

okay...
that was strange...

[hallow eagle]

Yoru pfp?

[sudden sequoia]

Yup

[hallow eagle]

Nice

[sudden sequoia]

Tyty

[real holly]

the most horrid combo

[sudden sequoia]

leave me alone

😔

[shy parcel]

I really enjoyed doom eternal on ultra violent but the ancient gods is horrible lol

I am against two tyrants, one possessed and a doom hunter

I swear to god I can't stagger this damn empowered tyrant

[sudden sequoia]

Ancient gods 1 is the best

[austere bronze]

do you mean it's actually horrible or just challenging?

the possessed tyrant is way too tanky in my opinion though😭

[shy parcel]

I've enjoyed it except for this fight to be fair lol

[jagged wind]

Both TAGs are dope on a rope with a bar of soap

[shy parcel]

Just finished the first one

It was sadistic as hell on UV

But it feels good

[sudden sequoia]

now do it on UN and see what sadism is

[shy parcel]

I'd die irl

[sudden sequoia]

i beat it after 10 tries its painful

[covert plinth]

Tips for gladiator on nightmare mode?

I struggle on gladiator a lot rn

[sudden sequoia]

whats ur current strat

[shy parcel]

Meathook fire for lots of armour

Oh I only played ultra violent

[lyric fog]

Hey i have a problem about login my account in game

Like i did put my old ps4 behtesda account on the version of my pc but evrytime i click the log button it make an error message

Tbh idk what to to do

[neon shard]

Real 😭

Even completeing the Taras Nabad master level took hours, endurance and skill challenges like UN won't be a priority for me rn lol

[gaunt smelt]

I use heavy cannon and meathook a lot. When his eyes flash, get a little close and PB him. Throw frags behind and repeat. Use meathook and air control rune to throw yourself up and maybe land a frag or rocket just behind him.

For the second stage just be a tank and throw literally anything and everything at him. For the jump rope-esque thing though I recommend chain gun with the energy shield while dodging the stuff. Then ofc dash and maybe get a blood punch or rocket immediately after

F you want you can switch heavy cannon’s PB with ballista, but I find it too slow for my liking. But meathook and air control are gonna be your best friend, as it keeps you in the air and away from his attacks

[ripe arrow]

Halo may be infinite but doom is eternal

[sudden sequoia]

funnier the 304354th time

[ripe arrow]

:/

[marsh thunder]

Don’t let such a fact distract anyone from the fact that the longer the Icon of Sin is on Earth, the stronger he will become!

[ripe arrow]

Thanks I needed that

Thankfully our slayer will rip and tear until it is done so we don't need to worry

[plain sinew]

Do the slayer gate keys you get after you beat one save if you go into a different mission, like do they stack or can you only have one at a time

[zenith mulch]

anyone else having issues connecting on steam?

[fallen trench]

if you mean the empyrean keys then yeah

[candid laurel]

Hello I just wanted to apologize for anything that was sent through my account it was hacked and it should be fixed I'm very sorry for the massive inconvenience that was caused it won't happen again

[gaunt smelt]

You don’t save any once you leave a mission. You don’t hold on to any really. So you’d have to get the key for the gate in that mission in order to do the one in said mission.

On top of that, even if you’ve found the key, you still have to go back and get it if you want to revisit the mission and do its slayer gate

[plain sinew]

Ok just wanted to know because I skipped the first 3 empreyan keys and I need to go back and get them

[covert plinth]

Rocket launcher precision bolt super shotgun ballista cycle

[gentle thicket]

As a hell priest once said "smash the heretic"

[sudden sequoia]

Just lock in

[faint smelt]

“CRITICAL DAMAGE” 🔥🗣️

[lyric fog]

Wtf

[storm eagle]

stop doing this

[shy parcel]

Can anyone hook me up with a render of a dead mancubus? You know that way they just lay there in pits before fading away

I mean just a quality picture lol

[untold galleon]

Tell me why the hell is the Mars core fight after getting the BFG so damn unnecessarily long? I've been fighting for 15 fuckin minutes and it's still going

[sudden sequoia]

because you need to get to the core of mars

[ripe arrow]

This has happened to quite a fair bit of people recently. Stay safe and don't join random servers alr

[gaunt smelt]

Just shoot a hole in the surface of Mars 🥱

[upbeat dirge]

you cant just shoot a hole into the surface of mars tho

[untold galleon]

Nah it was after blowing into mars

I just figured out you had to blood punch the rune thingy

[civic scarab]

guy what is the boss you hate the most

personaly it the marauder

[upbeat dirge]

marauder hate in 2026😭
the maurader drama is over...

[civic scarab]

but his hard to kill

[upbeat dirge]

its really not

[civic scarab]

i find it

[upbeat dirge]

just bait his meele by going far, and then ballista - super shotgun - ballista combo him.

[civic scarab]

k thx

[upbeat dirge]

also maurader is not a boss since it does not have a healthbar. and he appears frequently as a normal enemy.

my most hated boss is the gladiator,
and my fav is the doom hunter.

[civic scarab]

but the first time you see him his a boss

the doom hunter is a free kill fr

[upbeat dirge]

the doom hunter is the boss of the first act as stated in the game files.

the game is 3 acts with bosses every 4 levels

[candid dawn]

The game itself doesn't treat it as a boss encounter since bosses give you exclusive weapon points

And he behaves the same as he does in his later appearances

My most hated boss has to be the dark lord from the dlc though, nothing interesting about that fight

[upbeat dirge]

the super gore nest in the game files is E2M1 and the mars core is E2M3.
the E number didnt change as it does with the other bosses. so maurader is **not **a boss.

[upbeat dirge]

ive never beaten TAG2 so i cant say that i do not like him, tho ive heard that he is bad.

ive stopped playing TAG2 at the first level bc i didnt like it at all

[civic scarab]

isint he appearing in the level after super gore nest

[upbeat dirge]

yeah he appears in the next level after the gore nest. the number should change in the mars core (the next level after the boss). not in the level the boss is in.

[civic scarab]

ok thx

[austere bronze]

dark lord easily

[covert plinth]

Gladiator.

[harsh osprey]

High key kinda didn’t like the icon of sin because of the 20 pain elementals he can spawn but I also kinda liked it at the same time

[civic scarab]

yea

[clear holly]

I remember I didn't like Dark Lord fight. It was a bit dissapointing.
In terms of being hard...don't remember, which one is hardest on Nightmare.
But in my previous run - Khan Maykr was hardest so far (didn't finish Icon of Sin, though). Also Archviles, when you don't have any good tools are scariest bosses among non-bosses. 🫣

[harsh osprey]

Ima just be glad he can’t spawn tyrants or archviles I hate archviles with a passion

[clear holly]

He summoned Doom Hunter in arena right after Crucible once. 💀
The thing, I like them in runs without restrictions - when they appear they are relatively balanced for player with normal progression + right after 2 of them in Taras Nabad you get Crucible to end them, when you want. I generally like summoners in games, even though they usually unbalanced. But with severe restriction Archvile are menace for sure and I don't like them very much.

[harsh osprey]

I lowk saved my crucible charges for both of them after I died the first time

[scarlet ice]

Anyone on ps5 looking to farm multiplayer trophies?

[swift hare]

yes

bet i need them too

[scarlet ice]

Ok sick of we can get a third we can

[swift hare]

i can also get my friend so the 3 of us can js go in priv lobbies

[swift hare]

fr bro the multiplayer trophies r so bs😭

[scarlet ice]

Fr lol

[swift hare]

idk if he can rn tho wait ima make a group

add me

[jolly kernel]

anyone else thinks nightmare dififculty in this game can be really stressful at times?
(in a fun way obviously)

[harsh osprey]

Most I’ve done is hurt me plenty

Was also my first play through tho

[sudden sequoia]

only early game when you have nothing

[last hornet]

Hell nah I can complete the game with exploding shotgun

[austere bronze]

yeah it's a very fast paced game, so the highest difficulty will probably feel stressful

but you can get confortable with it

(the difficulty, not being comfortable with stress)

[void spire]

Samur…

[sudden sequoia]

Dont diss on Samuel

Hottest doom boss OAT

[void spire]

I finished the Part 1 DLC today and won against Samur, but the fight was really irritating (possessed demons, lasers moving, electrical eyes ((idk what is this sh*t)))

I don’t like boss fights in Doom Eternal in general

[sudden sequoia]

some of them are really good

like the gladiator and icon of sin

[void spire]

I prefer fight horde of demons in arena (except the Arche-Vile lmao)

The Slayer Door (idk how this part of gameplay is named, in french we said « Porte du Slayer », I translate word for word) is my favorite Doom Eternal experience

[void spire]

My first and only fight against him was very miserable
If I retry, there will be better, I guess

(Sorry if my english is as bad as my gameplay lmao)

[sudden sequoia]

no ur good

[void spire]

Ty

[clear holly]

Is Napalm Belch Crystal upgrade good one?

[neon shard]

Oh definitely. I think the stress really helps in that learning process for me

[neon shard]

Yes

It’s saved me a few times

[neon shard]

I agree. I was able to complete him on Nightmare (with help from Sentinel Armor during the final phase), but I never felt like he was the main threat in that arena

The other bosses (even the Icon of Sin or Davoth) just felt so much more important

I do gotta say, Samur is prolly better than Davoth

[neon shard]

I think I’d enjoy the fight a lot more if he’d use more moves, and stay hidden less

[clear holly]

Thank you! I just understand that I don't know, which order is most effecient way to get these upgrades.

• Quickdraw Belch is almost always 1st for me, because cooldown, which I got accustomed to and HP+armor. The only exception is when I want to carry at least a bit more ammo at the start, but currently I just use chainsaw more often.
• Loot Magnet is quite handy too, so usually my 2nd.
• Both Blood Punch upgrades were usually last, since I didn't use Blood Punch that often and didn't like idea of picking up stuff, which I may need later and turn it into BP "fuel". But currently I use BP more often, so don't know, if it would be more handy (definitely handy for my melee run, but it's modded run, so a bit different situation).
• Belch Armor Boost seems to be useful, since if I remember correctly it makes enemies drop a bit more armor (?). But I don't know does it affect SSG Mastery or only Flame Belch.
• And Napalm Belch is just unknown for me: how effective it in increased being on fire duration for heavy/super heavy demons, how is it effective in terms of combat, when main resource source are fodder enemies, does it give any benifits for SSG mastery etc.

[burnt hamlet]

What level is when i get the sword

[sudden sequoia]

taras nabad

[burnt hamlet]

Ok

Thx

[harsh osprey]

Just fought the dark lord I thought the icon of sin took forever but gah damn I think I did a thirty minute fight with the dark lord 75% of the fight was just waiting for him to give me a stun frame and sometimes those frames happened during summons

[sudden sequoia]

dark lord fight was trash

[fervent sparrow]

i’m stuck on the icon of sin boss fight on ultra nightmare but i’m using the saving throw rune is there any tips you guys can give me?

[covert plinth]

Shoot at it until it dies

[graceful current]

i wouldnt call it trash but it also wasnt standout like it shouldve been

at least his boss theme is my favourite in eternal tbh

[fervent sparrow]

thanks i would’ve tried that my first time

[high valley]

Hey is anyone on rn? I need help

Im trying to get the 200 kills trophy if anyway could please help me

[jolly kernel]

I feel like I can't go back to playing 2016 and Eternal on ultra-violence now that I'm playing them on nightmare

[drowsy wedge]

a natural progression

[jolly kernel]

gotta work up to mastering TDA to play it on nightmare too

from having trouble playing on hurt me plenty to mastering the mechanics and playing well on nightmare, Doom Eternal truly has some of the best skill ceiling in any game I ever played

[pallid bobcat]

https://youtu.be/SfaOgaMlBLU?si=AHnvAvd9Z7YRrEcV

[jolly kernel]

XD