doom-eternal

[wide fractal]

why are you using the bfg

[silent wharf]

Because at that point it had a bunch of invisible pinkies around it

[wide fractal]

blood punch and icebomb

[half hollow]

tbh i find it funny how in the base campaign you get enough bfg and crucible rounds to just never need to fight an archie and still be fully stocked up on both

[wide fractal]

i save the bfg always if im about to die and i have no flame belch and blood punch or something to glory kill

[silent wharf]

Wdym?

[half hollow]

most arenas with an archvile nearby have either a crucible or a bfg charge in them

or like the arena before or after in some cases

[wide fractal]

its for the noobs that use their crucible or bfg on revenants or mancubi and need ammo for the archie

[half hollow]

i just use the bfg if the arena im in gives me bfg ammo while im full

its like i might aswell not let this ammo go to waste

[scenic axle]

Nothing wrong with using the crucible or bfg

[wide fractal]

everything is wrong with using them

[scenic axle]

why?

[half hollow]

i forget i even have them

[wide fractal]

having full ammo on both without using means you feel triumphant

[half hollow]

no i just feel like i have dementia

[scenic axle]

Why can't you feel truimphant while using them?

[wide fractal]

because they are too free to use

[scenic axle]

wdym

[wide fractal]

i feel like a noob using them outside of an about to die scenario

[half hollow]

dont let this man play doom 2016

[wide fractal]

does he know?

[scenic axle]

they were added to the game to be used, nothing wrong with avoiding them, but you're not a worse player for using it

[wide fractal]

its better to be a doomtuber with 600 hand fov and cycle through every weapon on a soldier

[scenic axle]

LOL

[wide fractal]

i like that more 😭

[scenic axle]

Yeah I don't use it either

but there's nothing wrong with using it

[wide fractal]

besides i never play campaign

[half hollow]

honestly now i want a mod that just gives fodder enemies the health of tyrants

[scenic axle]

It's been a very long time since I've played the campaign

[wide fractal]

health of the icon of sin both phases would be funny

[wide fractal]

i only recently played campaign to get the dollar store gold skin

[scenic axle]

It's a silly skin

I just use modded skins they look much cooler

[wide fractal]

i dont play with mods lol

[scenic axle]

you should the moddel levels are great

really good levels and they push the difficulty as far as you want

[wide fractal]

im gonna stick to 100 percenting the achievements on the unmodded version first lol

[scenic axle]

idc about achievements I just kill demons

[austere bronze]

i got like 50% of the achievements after over 1000 hours🗣️

[half hollow]

how is that even possible

[scenic axle]

Lemme see how many I got

[half hollow]

by the time i got all the achievements i had like under 100 hours or smth i dont remember

175 rn

[scenic axle]

yeah I got 30/50

[austere bronze]

oh yeah same here

i got a couple from just loading up different mods tho

[scenic axle]

and I DON"T care about the rest

[scenic axle]

same, I got one from using a command to give me all the weapons and weapon mods

I still haven't played most of the slayer gates lol

[half hollow]

how

[scenic axle]

Cause there's no point to going back and doing them

[wide fractal]

i have 70% and i have like 70 hours on the game 😭

the only ones that will give me trouble are the ultra nightmare ones and the unknown ones

[scenic axle]

there's UN achievements?

I thought there weren't any

[wide fractal]

yeah you know the skins you get

[fringe torrent]

Milestones

[scenic axle]

oh for milestones

[wide fractal]

gold, aurum, skullface

[scenic axle]

I thought you meant steam achievements

yeah I don't care about those either

[wide fractal]

i have the game on xbox lmfao

[scenic axle]

oh lol

hey didn't you UN the base game though

[wide fractal]

i got the deluxe edition for like 20 bucks on a black friday sale in 2021

[wide fractal]

nope farthest i ever got was halfway through exultia

[scenic axle]

tag1 is harder but super short so kinda easier

[scenic axle]

oh lol I thought you meant you did here

[wide fractal]

tag2 is the easiest imo

[scenic axle]

yeah tag2 is definitely the easiest

easy boss and the hammer is gigabroken

[wide fractal]

phobos skin from extra life mode completion with 10+ extra lives

[scenic axle]

Idk what that is lol

[wide fractal]

tag1 is only harder bc blood swamps

[fringe torrent]

It's a Quake III reference 😌

[scenic axle]

the holt and samur are both hard too

considerably harder than anything in the main campaign

it's so much shorter though that it's not so punishing to die

[half hollow]

tag1 for me was significantly easier

i literally beat both dlcs ultra nightmare first try, really the only reason why the base campaign was way more difficult was because of how boring the early game is to go through and then cultist base just being cultist base

[scenic axle]

If you're quite good at the game then main campaign is definitely the hardest because of the first few levels

[wide fractal]

cultist base-doom hunter base are the most boring parts

so long my god

[half hollow]

doom hunter base is fine, its mostly just working toward ssg mastery

after doom hunter base its mostly smooth sailing

[scenic axle]

yeah once you get to sgn it's free

[wide fractal]

what masteries do you usually grind in order, i do pbolt, ssg, 5 spot, energy shield

[scenic axle]

unless you goof up somehow

I don't ever grind masteries 💀

[half hollow]

the most intense part afterward is trying to remember which teleporter to take during the buff totem prowler part in sgn

[austere bronze]

i don't care about achievements xd

[scenic axle]

well I make sure to ssg instead of pb at the end of a meathook until I get the mastery

but that's it

[half hollow]

fumbling on final sin is pretty easy if you get really unlucky with the enemy spawns during the icon

[scenic axle]

really?

you can just crucible them though

[half hollow]

thankfully during my un run i got pretty lucky

[wide fractal]

i pbolt ballist the FUCK out of the icon to prevent that

[half hollow]

micro missles work better

micro missles shred the icon

[scenic axle]

quickswapping anything works

[half hollow]

the first arena of the icon gives you a bunch of bfg ammo which lets you take out like half maybe more of his armor which is great because his first phase sucks

[scenic axle]

yeah the bfg can let you take out so much of his armor

[fringe torrent]

The Icon fight is the single time the Unmaykr is useful lololol

[half hollow]

except not because the bfg does more damage and the icon has resistence to the unmaykr

[fringe torrent]

That's depressing

[half hollow]

unmaker in 64 was too good they had to make it abyssmal dogshit in eternal to compensate

[wide fractal]

Its not too bad

it is relatively easy to get aswell so i didnt expect a chaingun that fires bfg balls

[half hollow]

in a vaccuum sure but like the bfg is right there

[scenic axle]

In a vacuum, It's a good weapon, the problem is that it uses the same ammo as the bfg

[fringe torrent]

Easy to get?

[half hollow]

even the mobile turret is just better than the unmaykr

[scenic axle]

the bfg is WAY better

[wide fractal]

the slayer gates are easy

[wide fractal]

thats a stretch

[half hollow]

alr do an ultra nightmare run while trying to get the unmaykr aswell

[wide fractal]

ok brb

[half hollow]

im pretty sure they do like very similar damage, atleast against the dark lord

[austere bronze]

yes

[scenic axle]

If you hit all pellets I think the unmakyr does 5400 dps which is insane, the problem is how little you can fire it, and you have to be RIGHT in a demons face to hit all the pellets

and you are choosing between killing maybe 2 superheavies with 30 ammo with the unmakyr or as many heavies as you want and doing like 50% of each superheavies health with one bfg shot

[half hollow]

yeah thing is with the unmaykr is you will be using as much ammo as the bfg to kill like a single superheavy rather than killing the entire arena and crippling the super heavies

if you really want that single target rapid fire damage, the chaingun is right there and its ammo is abundant

i wish they wouldve done more with the unmaykr tbh, so much buildup for such an overshadowed weapon

atleast they didnt decide to add an enemy in the dlcs that can only be killed with the unmaykr or some shit

[wide fractal]

i died on exultia because a cacodemon bit my ass and i fell off the map and died

fuckass ball of meat

[austere bronze]

instead they added the baron of hell whose shield is extremely resistant to the unmaykr😭

[scenic axle]

Up until sgn UN can be pretty difficult

I mean the whole thing is but that's the hardest part

[wide fractal]

doom hunter base is the hardest part of un

[half hollow]

i love when they add this very late game superweapon just to make the final boss resistant to it

[half hollow]

not even close tbh

[scenic axle]

I think cultist base is harder

[half hollow]

ig technically close its right after the hardest part

[wide fractal]

cultist base is just long

[half hollow]

there are longer, cultist base is just hard

[scenic axle]

There's a couple arenas in cultist base that could get you killed, in doom hunter base it's really just one

[half hollow]

you barely have any of your kit and you have to deal with a bunch of new heavies being thrown at you

[austere bronze]

played through tag1 earlier today cause bored

and i feel like uac is the best level in the dlc

[half hollow]

mancubi are actually horrifying until you get the ballista

[austere bronze]

potentially uncommon takes here, but blood swamps is for the most part boring with mini-encounters and alotta platforming, and the holt feels lackluster

[half hollow]

the holt exists

its kinda forgettable tbh

[scenic axle]

I gotta play it again to see how I feel

It's been too long to really remember

[wide fractal]

i just icebomb the mf and pbolt its arms

[half hollow]

ok guy who died to a cacodemon in exultia

[wide fractal]

:(

[scenic axle]

💀

[little moth]

💀

Cacodemons in eternal are so much easier than in 2016

They are still easy nevertheless

[scenic axle]

are they hard in 2016?

[little moth]

Harder

Because there is no grenade in mouth

[scenic axle]

that's a bad way to kill them

[little moth]

Ik

In eternal, grenade, then glory kill

[scenic axle]

huh?

[scenic axle]

no im saying that's bad to do

[little moth]

How?

[scenic axle]

way too slow

and you have to position yourself poorly cause you always go where the caco is

[little moth]

I have always been shooting a sticky in the mouth

And I just dash past and shoot

[scenic axle]

i don't understand

I mean you can but it's not the best way to kil lthem

[little moth]

Then what is?

[scenic axle]

depends, but arbalest or basic combos

[austere bronze]

arbalest for a clean kill
ballista->meathook->ssg for either a kill or GK depending on where you shoot the ssg (can reverse the order of the guns)
sticky for GK
destroyer blade if multiple

i'd say those are the main ways to kill cacos before you really quick swap

[edgy shoal]

Is there anyone who plays on PlayStation who would like to help me with an online achievement?

Its just one

I swear

🥺

[mossy vigil]

Stun bomb from plasma and/or siege canon from gauss always makes short work of them.
Plus the BFG rune is beyond broken. Just kill some lesser demons, they drop one BFG Cell, then room clear everything in sight.

[silent wharf]

Just killed the khan maykr, honestly thought the battle was too easy

[silent wharf]

Bfg rune, which one is that?

[scenic axle]

Yeah it’s way too easy

[mossy vigil]

Ammo boost
It's the most passive rune to upgrade, just pick up ammo resources.

I don't know why I always mistake those two. Suppose in my mind I accidentally swap out the names Ammo boost with Rich get Richer and forget the actual name, cuz ammo resources are already plentiful in Doom 2016

[real holly]

there's only one makyr that's any semblance of a threat and its the blood makyr

Khan, Kreed and Drones are all washed

you'd think the equivalent to heaven in Doom would have more than one unit worth a damn in a fight

one of the most powerful forces in the verse and nilch

[scenic axle]

I mean the drones entire purpose is being a complete restack fodder

Khan makyr was a joke but the kreed was a good fight, maybe I’m just bad at TDA though

[real holly]

Kreed is ok honestly, better than makyr but low bar

[kind basin]

Ah just play on max sliders

You'll change your mind

In a worse way

[scenic axle]

I was playing it on high sliders so maybe that’s why it was hard

[astral hamlet]

kreed is fun
not crazy hard but it's a fun fight

[scenic axle]

I gotta replay TDA

[astral hamlet]

I haven't really touched it since I UNed it for the second time tbh

[scenic axle]

Oh dang nice

[astral hamlet]

the only modern doom game that didn't screw me over with a glitch three quarters of the way through lol

2016 clipped me through the floor on a GK in the last arena before the cyberdemon, and eternal punchboosted me like 3 times when I was trying to GK the gladiator in his second phase

[kind basin]

I mostly play the ripatorium now

[astral hamlet]

and now I probably enjoy playing eternal 20% less because of that lmao

[kind basin]

I replayed through eternal recently

From beginning to tag 2

[real holly]

tag 2

[kind basin]

Today

And,

[simple holly]

All of it today?

[kind basin]

No finished it today

[simple holly]

Oh lmao

[kind basin]

I spend this week playing through it

[real holly]

"Reclaimed Earth and some few good arenas in the other levels sorrounded by ass™"

[kind basin]

And I had fun to some extent

But some levels are doo doo

Actual poop

[simple holly]

Noice. I remember you say ing Dark Ages has made Eternal less fun. I kinda agree.

[kind basin]

It does for me yeah

The aesthetic for one kinda pisses me off like idk why

[real holly]

i still go back and forth between both games

[mystic valve]

tag 2 is my favourite part of eternal

[kind basin]

I pray for you bro

[mystic valve]

but that's also because ive modded it to hell and back

[kind basin]

Could've said that

[real holly]

recently tda has lost its luster a bit cause parries have gotten weird to do properly for some reason

[kind basin]

Huh I never felt that

They feel responsive to me

[real holly]

ok its just im sucking ass with the parries so i have less fun

[kind basin]

And I play ripatorium a lot

[simple holly]

It’s funny because I played both part of The Ancient Gods for the first time, I dunno they were weird.

[kind basin]

Huh fair

I will say I enjoyed tag 1 a lot

Mostly cuz of the music

[astral hamlet]

ye I actually just replayed the main campaign yesterday

[kind basin]

Man hulshult and levy rock

[kind basin]

Pretty tough isn't it

[mystic valve]

but i dunno man i love how the World Spear and Reclaimed Earth are such peaceful, beautiful and melancholic levels. It's like looking back on everything, and that despite all the carnage, there is hope. It's the calm before the Immora storm

[kind basin]

Ok but why so green

And so flat

So, so flat

[real holly]

idk how the telegraphing really works in tda bc I end up missing like 30% of my parries which ends up being enough of a problem and 50% if it's azhrak and idk why I've just fell off with my parries recently

[astral hamlet]

it's tough enough that if I lose focus then I can die, but easy enough that I get pissed off if I end up dying lmao
if that makes any sense

[kind basin]

It does make sense

I kept getting stuck on geo

[mystic valve]

i didnt say tag 2 was good lol, I said that I love it

[kind basin]

And I said I pray for you🥀

[real holly]

impressive, most people believe their opinions are fact. cheers

[kind basin]

Ye power to you

[mystic valve]

maybe it's also because Samur isn't in it lol

[real holly]

I'd rather someone going "I like it" and not some bomboclat "Actually the cursed prowler is good" shit

[kind basin]

Ohhh the samur boss

Hated replaying it🤬

[mystic valve]

not even just his boss, his entire character. Hayden will forever be the most wasted character of nuDOOM

[real holly]

Samur boss took me like over a year to master (I've only gotten the hang of it some days ago)

[astral hamlet]

he was such a nice complement to the slayer in 2016
they were both humans once, but doomguy was blessed with incredible strength while he had the genius intellect

[kind basin]

And then he decided to be purple

[real holly]

lean

[kind basin]

Screw him

[astral hamlet]

they really could've done so much more with that dynamic without turning him into an angel for no reason

[kind basin]

Oh and the demonic troopers

[real holly]

i think the concept of the angel wasn't a bad take on how to make him into a boss (it would have felt weird to fight a big robot or something), that's as far as my compliments go though

[kind basin]

Like why do they exist

[real holly]

i stood still in nightmare and they legitimately couldn't kill me

[kind basin]

They piss me off on how useless they are and also bc I can't ragdoll them

[mystic valve]

I guess I wanted Hayden to get some kind of redemption arc over the course of a trilogy or smth, like the core of the trilogy is Hayden and the Slayer's dynamic, but his redemption arc then happens off-screen and then it's also revealed it's not even a redemption arc, he was just putting on an act the whole time like what was even the point of all that character and backstory in 2016 if NONE of it was true and what it is instead is 10x less interesting

[kind basin]

I want to ragdoll them so bad

[real holly]

tag 2 just failed to add any good demons legitimately

[kind basin]

They added no new demons, all variants

[astral hamlet]

eternal dlcs when they're asked to show a new demon they introduced that isn't just a reskin:

[real holly]

the armored baron is boring, just wait for the guy to eyes flash Green and now hes norma baron yay

[kind basin]

I think the blood maykrs qualify as new

[real holly]

the trustworthy blood makyr:

[kind basin]

They use an existing model but it was a model we had never fought

[mystic valve]

okay but add the rapid-fire rocket launcher mod to the riot soldiers and it's the best enemy in the game

[astral hamlet]

kiiinda
but they're also essentially reskins of the maykr angels from sentinel prime with switched headgear

[kind basin]

Yes ofc

[mystic valve]

i wanted to fight THOSE Maykr angels so bad bruh

[real holly]

tbf the Possesed demons are like the only actually good reskins bc it's just "oh hey you thought this enemy was too easy? No problem now its a fucking miniboss"

[kind basin]

But they are unlike any other model of any enemy you fight

So they are considered as "new"

[real holly]

yeah

[astral hamlet]

if memory serves, kaiser campaign has "pureblood maykrs" that share the same model

[kind basin]

Still made with toothpicks and dreams🥀

[astral hamlet]

you have to headshot them with a sticky to kill them lmao

[real holly]

(ignoring ofc the possessed marauder bs and possessed archville that was so ass they just chose to not add it into the main game at all)

[mystic valve]

that's lame, just let me shoot it until it dies

[kind basin]

Blood swamps is when I started having fun

[astral hamlet]

one of proteh's mods actually added in possessed archviles before tag2 even dropped

it was the tag1 horde mode

[kind basin]

Which is kinda concerning lol

Oh and Final sin

Did not like the final boss

Clunky and unintuitive

[astral hamlet]

final sin is great if you ignore the boss yeah

[mystic valve]

i like it 🥺

[kind basin]

Spectacle is great

[real holly]

Icon of Sin is, okay but yeah kind of sluggish and clunky

[astral hamlet]

screen shake and earrape personified

[kind basin]

I like taking off the pieces

[mystic valve]

THE MUSIC

[kind basin]

Was lame

[real holly]

it's cool

[mystic valve]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[kind basin]

Jokes but I don't pay much attention to it

[real holly]

Icon of Sin is basically a "does the job for a final boss but eh"

[kind basin]

It's just such a clunky boss

[mystic valve]

it's genuinely my favourite boss in the series lol

[kind basin]

But don't get me wrong

He is cool as hell

Very good boss design

Fighting him is not bad

I just don't like the billion fireballs at me

[mystic valve]

I never found it that clunky but I could see why some would. Maybe I play too much Infinite Slaughter to be bothered by that

[astral hamlet]

the whole thing is just spectacle over substance

[proven granite]

Honestly hope we get another titan boss in the DLC

[astral hamlet]

fuck no

[mystic valve]

that isn't in a fucking mech at least

[kind basin]

Unless we can climb it like kratos, no

[astral hamlet]

I would honestly rather fight a titan in a mech than on foot
fights against gigantic enemies are so lame, both in doom and in souls games

[proven granite]

It’s interesting how gigantic bosses aren’t exclusive to DOOM, they are also in both RAGE games and Painkiller

[kind basin]

If I were to fight a giant enemy on foot, I need to move super fast, jump super high and hit super hard

So fighting them doesn't feel clunky

[mystic valve]

yea but mech combat is boring tho

[kind basin]

Mech combat could've benefited from more melee options and no guns

Like why have guns

[astral hamlet]

it can be
but that just tells you how little regard I have for giant boss fights

[mystic valve]

more melee options wouldve helped yeah, like in Eternal they got spears and in the concept art they had battle axes and I think there's a cut model for a chainsaw in TDA

[kind basin]

And like why no glorykills for the atlan

It's spectacle, feed into it

Not many enemies to make it clunky

[proven granite]

I do love the idea of giant bosses, I think the best one is Anak the Soulbinder from Painkiller

[astral hamlet]

atlans are one place where I wouldn't mind gks

[mystic valve]

laziness!

[kind basin]

I do kinda feel that way

[astral hamlet]

who?

[kind basin]

It just makes no sense

[proven granite]

Look it up

[astral hamlet]

oh, the new painkiller

forgot that game was a thing

is it any good

[proven granite]

It’s kind of like the Icon of Sin but more engaging

Yeah the game is amazing, almost DOOM level

[kind basin]

Hm what else abt doom eternal

Taras nabad is super boring

Gosh I hate the colors

[astral hamlet]

dunno why I used to think the level was so hard

[mystic valve]

filler level

[astral hamlet]

probably because I didn't know to pop the shield up when I wanted to jump over a marauder

[kind basin]

What else

Chaingun shield cheeses everything that breathes

[proven granite]

Cueballs, am I right?

[mystic valve]

Dread Knights are the best enemy in the game, not even close

[kind basin]

Forget they exist

[proven granite]

That’s why I’m reminding

[astral hamlet]

nah barons are the goat
you can't burst them down easily, so they actually force you to stay active with your movement

[kind basin]

Barons are also jokes

[mystic valve]

yeah but Dread Knights look like a stroggified demon and ifwt HARD

[kind basin]

They're all jokes

[astral hamlet]

you're a joke samir

[kind basin]

Aslong as you use that shield

[mystic valve]

nah he's right, Eternal's piss easy

[kind basin]

Not the first time today someone called me that

[astral hamlet]

well damn

[kind basin]

Slice of life of me

Hm what else

Khan maykr

[astral hamlet]

possessed pain elementals

[kind basin]

I'll get to that

But the Khan, is laughably easy

I spammed rocket lock on

[mystic valve]

pain elemental my beloved

[kind basin]

She's a joke

Moving on to the possessed elemental

[astral hamlet]

yeah alternate micromissiles and LOB, that takes care of 2 phases, then headshot a maykr drone
repeat 2x and done

[kind basin]

The real final boss of doom eternal

[kind basin]

I hate him

[astral hamlet]

chief wiggums

[proven granite]

Possessed turrets

[kind basin]

Hate hate hate

[astral hamlet]

guy is so fast he will legitimately dodge arbalest pings

[mystic valve]

doesn't exist

[kind basin]

That's funny

[proven granite]

Possessed pain elementals shuffle so fast it’s pretty funny

[mystic valve]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-creepy-scream-gif-12314061

[proven granite]

I know, just thinking about if it was

[astral hamlet]

guy ground up some crystal on his coffee table and inhaled it, and now he's the scariest demon in the game

[kind basin]

He has to have the most health

He just doesn't die

[astral hamlet]

he's essentially got the health of a tyrant

[proven granite]

The spirit is made of pure methamphetamine

[kind basin]

Or maybe it's his speed and damage output that makes him so formidable

[astral hamlet]

it takes 5 or 6 arbalest shots to kill him, which is insanity

[kind basin]

Meanwhile a bloodmayker and a cocaine knight relentlessly pursue you

[mystic valve]

i mean it is blue

[kind basin]

Honestly thinking abt my experience makes me mad

Well not mad

Just like

Well what did I like

I really liked the parkour

To the dismay of others

I liked the slayer gates a ton

[astral hamlet]

yk what really grinds my gears about pain elementals

[kind basin]

My fav levels are cultist base and doomhunter base

[astral hamlet]

normal lost souls will trigger the precision bolt's headshot blast, but a pain elemental's lost souls won't

[kind basin]

Niche for quiche

[proven granite]

Did anyone else assume the thrown lost soul mines were a bug for the longest time?

[mystic valve]

mine are Mars Core and Nekravol II

[astral hamlet]

I did

[kind basin]

Idk they have some mental imparedness idk

They're misguided

[astral hamlet]

nah they're intentional

they're essentially proximity mines that detonate when you get close

[kind basin]

Tell that to the poor bugger glitching out through the floor

[proven granite]

To be fair I think there was a glitch with their sounds being able to be heard after they’re dead or during cutscenes

[simple holly]

https://tenor.com/view/doometernal-that-yoinky-sploinky-gif-19724968

[kind basin]

What else

Archviles

[proven granite]

Possessed possessed

[kind basin]

Yawn

Uh what else

[proven granite]

[kind basin]

I'm genuinely trying to remember

Oh yeah

Tag 2's mixing is the worst

Like genuinely insufferable

Everything is botched

Can't hear squat

[mystic valve]

doesn't mean Reclaimed Earth and Immora don't fuckin slap

[kind basin]

Oh they do

Headstomp for days

[proven granite]

Trial of Maligog has the worst mixing though

[kind basin]

It had music???

[proven granite]

Very good music

[kind basin]

I'm sorry all I heard is ethereal metal clanging

Of the dumbass boxes making coughing noises

[proven granite]

Sadly it’s quieter than every other track and the boss is extremely loud

[mystic valve]

i didnt even hear anything

[kind basin]

And I heard trial of maligog by itself

That awesome of a track for 2 cardboard boxes

And you can't hear it

Makes me wanna break smt

[mystic valve]

that's ACTUALLY the worst boss in the franchise

two boxes

[kind basin]

Is it even a boss???

[mystic valve]

kinda??

[kind basin]

It's like Kalibas

[proven granite]

It has the yellow map icon like a boss

Kalibas does not, I double checked the other day

[kind basin]

Hm

[proven granite]

It’s the only DOOM boss without a health bar

[kind basin]

Well they both suck

That's for sure

[astral hamlet]

me when the game makes me think I'm gonna fight a big ass titan but instead it's an assortment of red and green traffic light cubes

[mystic valve]

at least you get to punch a bigass brain at the end of Kalibas, that's cool

[kind basin]

That is true

I can excuse it

[proven granite]

I wish Kalibas was considered a boss

[kind basin]

The boxes can go unpack themselves tho

[mystic valve]

a titan that's BIGGER than the Icon mind u

[kind basin]

Huge as hell

He is the map

Kilometers tall

[mystic valve]

what's so special about the Great One again?

eh it's doom who cares

[kind basin]

He's capable of crazy necromancy

Commanding hordes and he is sorta huge

iirc

[mystic valve]

that's kinda cool

[kind basin]

Ye kinda like the icon

But I think the great one is larger

Doesn't matter since the icon is so ridiculously powerful

Him existing endangers the universe or smt

Some bull idk

[mystic valve]

they never took full advantage of that idea either. Like I wanted to see the environment around us just vanishing or getting consumed all over again whilst we fight the Icon or smth

[proven granite]

His presence was bad for Earth’s magnetic field or something

[kind basin]

Sometimes the budget runs out

And you gotta make with what you have

[mystic valve]

i know that all too well

[kind basin]

Mhm

Oh yeah davoth

The one

The only

Satan himself

Temu marauder

Bland and funnels you in one way

[mystic valve]

"uh he wasn't at FULL power!!"

[kind basin]

F l a t arena

Rng based attacks

[mystic valve]

because yes it's very satisfying to kill the creator of time and space without him being at full power, bravo Hugo

[kind basin]

Lessons learned

[mystic valve]

honestly the "No" at the end of TAG2 kinda makes up for it all

[kind basin]

Good thing Doom has no shortage of ridiculously strong villains that pop out of the ether

[kind basin]

If there's one thing I liked besides the music, the ending was kinda good ngl

[proven granite]

I don’t think he wasn’t at full power from anything the game tells you

[kind basin]

It ties a nice bow

[mystic valve]

and I know people are like "what about Samur??" but I honestly could care less. He should stay locked in that box for the rest of time, I am totally fine with that

[kind basin]

And the slayer lost his power too

[proven granite]

If they bring back the Slayer, you know Samur will most likely show up too

[mystic valve]

a game following TAG2 would be DOOM's equivalent of Security Breach

i am good

[kind basin]

Bring back intern I miss him

Whata cool guy

He prob has a lineage of crazy cool ppl

Anyways I think that wraps up my replay of eternal

Strange experience

[mystic valve]

I just think it's best to leave it as is after either the DLC or ANOTHER game in the Unholy Wars if that's what they're doing next. All good things must come to an end, and if you keep dragging it out, it'll no longer be that same thing anymore

[proven granite]

Absolutely agree, I think it might be best for ID Software to move on to adjacent games like Quake and Hexen

I feel the same way about the MCU, I think it should just end after Secret Wars

[simple holly]

I think it shoulda ended after endgame

[proven granite]

I mean I’m glad it continued, although I wish they kept the Multiverse Saga a little more realistic than they did

Felt like they kind of stopped caring as much about science

[mystic valve]

I think people just think that if a franchise they love stops making entries then that means they have to move on or smth but I think something actually ending, definitively, is what adds to its value. It's not just a product to be milked, it's a work of art that has done all it has needed to do and can be revisited again and again whenever you want.

[simple holly]

There’s the whole “you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain” thing

[scenic axle]

Marauders and archvilles and barons >

And possessed PE’s

[scenic axle]

I think it’s 4 to stagger

[mystic valve]

i was more speaking design and sounds, in that regard I find Dread Knights more memorable

[mighty pendant]

so is hayden good in this game or is he just out of options?

[austere bronze]

i mean that completely depends though

it isn't super hard to get to a point where you can play through the campaigns and master levels on nightmare, because it isn't a super hard difficulty

but eternal's mechanics aren't easy, because playing the game at a high level is very difficult

[mighty pendant]

lol people used to hate marauders so much

[austere bronze]

or try to beat unbalanced tormented earth on ultra nightmare

[austere bronze]

i think there's more people saying people hate marauders than there are people who hate marauders

i think the main thing were a couple reviews of people dissing the marauders while being really bad at fighting them

[mighty pendant]

reminds me of the reviewer playing cuphead lol

[scenic axle]

That’s fair, it’s a super memorable enemy

Great design

[scenic axle]

Well I think that’s quite a high bar

[austere bronze]

precisely

[scenic axle]

Well I don’t think it’s fair to say a game is hard because it’s extremely difficult to beat a custom level that’s miles harder than anything the base game has to offer

Eternal is a hard game, I don’t get the point though lol

[austere bronze]

my point is moreso that the mechanics of eternal are really hard to master, and yeah the normal game doesn't offer anything super hard, but i think that's also because of how difficult the game is

the devs couldn't really implement a ML like tormented earth because it'd be way too difficult for basically anyone

it's only because of the insane skill gap between newer players and very good players the latter aren't challenged when doing unmodded content, since the devs can't implement something to challenge them and be impossible for any normal player

[scenic axle]

True true

[half hollow]

i hate how janky marauders are

[azure oriole]

guys how difficult would yall say the sgn master level is relative to the rest of eternals levels?

[oblique anvil]

Chat.
Im thinking of buying both the dlc's.
Are they worth it?

[scenic axle]

The master levels are WAYYYY harder than the base campaign and DLC, excluding the cultist base and arc complex MLs. SGN ml is way harder than any base game level, but probably the easiest post release ML

[scenic axle]

I think so, tag1 is great, tag2 is meh but it’s more content and I don’t regret buying it, I got my moneys worth in playtime in it

[mystic valve]

that's fair but i still didnt find the game that hard in my personal experience and i think its because I already figured out the whole quick-swapping thing with 2016, and Eternal was just that cranked to 11. I just naturally adapted

[scenic axle]

The base game isn’t that difficult, if you’re good at fps games you can easily get good enough to beat the main campaign on nightmare without trouble

However the skill ceiling goes so ridiculously high that it takes a very long time to master

The base campaign is pretty easy though

So the base game is easy, but how the game works and mastering the games systems isn’t

[mystic valve]

totally. I'm just so used to the absolute chaos of things like slaughter maps, master levels, infinite slaughter mode, that playing through all 3 campaigns just feels so tame to me, which isn't a bad thing, if anything it creates much better pacing for the campaign as a whole

[scenic axle]

I haven’t played the campaign in so long, I can’t imagine how easy it would feel

Early game could still be weird but the later levels would feel wrong because I’m used to much crazier levels

[mystic valve]

by the time you get to DOOM Hunter Base, nothing the game throws at you is hard for me anymore. Still fun, but not hard, except maaaaybe Final Sin

[scenic axle]

I think that first arena is decently difficult still, but not too bad

Anything past that is easy, but what can you expect when you master a game at such a high level

[austere bronze]

"difficult" is entirely subjective too

[scenic axle]

I still have so much to learn though

[scenic axle]

Yeah it’s just relative to your skill level

[austere bronze]

like when i started i found the normal game almos too hard on the easiest difficulty

[mystic valve]

yeah totally. I mean i've got over 1300 hours on it, no shite it's easy to me now lol

[scenic axle]

1300 what the flip

[mystic valve]

it's just so addictive!!

[austere bronze]

true

[scenic axle]

I’ll get there eventually (maybe)

[austere bronze]

ngl

i might set up a macro for bhops..

[scenic axle]

Does scrolling not work well enough?

[austere bronze]

cause using the scroll wheel while quick swapping is a pain

[scenic axle]

Oh true

[austere bronze]

and timing it manually with space bar is a pain

[scenic axle]

I got pretty decent at using the space bar before switching to scroll

I would probably hit 9/10 solid jumps, they didn’t keep as much momentum as scroll bhopping though

[austere bronze]

yea

it'd be very hard to consistently get as good bhops with manual inputs

[scenic axle]

Yeah a macro might be the way

[austere bronze]

unbalanced randomizer version of cuzzmotion's immora level is so peak

[real holly]

the funny thing is you can be relatively good at late game and/or tag 1 but early game can fuck u over cause u can't reliably practice it without starting a new save file

i wish all the modern doom trilogy games had an "episode select" type thing where u select a level and when u enter it u have only the progress u had when first entering the level so u face the challenge with the slayer power originally intended

this way you can practice levels for un without being forced to trek through a new save file to reach x level

especially with Eternal things like the double blood punch not existing until final sin do matter

[scenic axle]

Yeah the early game can still easily get you killed

[real holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388567765475922053/1470094284911939847/doom_eternal_demon_Tierlist.png?ex=698a0b7e&is=6988b9fe&hm=b6d89ac4fab51773d62361ff144deec480d764a2fe23fa3b923d1297da66cc6e&

alot of my demonic opinions have changed as of recently

idk when i realized that all the tryants do is stand there soaking up damage, struggling to even touch you

[austere bronze]

i'd knock both spectre enemies and the pinky one step down, and put the caco up a tier

otherwise i agree :D

[real holly]

caco just, a single sticky and its done

I have more fun glorly killing it and flying back into combat than anything before that

ig in packs they become more fun to fight

[austere bronze]

if you're in the first 3 levels maybe😭

[real holly]

pinkies have the "oh I don't have a bloodpunch might as well do some basic movement to dodge it in style and literally backshot it"

[real holly]

really? I find myself having no issue momentarily switching to stickybomb launcher to stagger any Cacodemons and then back to normal

hell they're also super weak to stuff like pb+rocket combo if for any reason you lack stickybombs

not to mention ballista/arbalest

[austere bronze]

oh i meant more like, past the first 3 levels there's so many other ways to deal with them

[real holly]

true

[scenic axle]

Another whiplash enjoyer I see

[half hollow]

thats the point of tyrants

just a giant damage sponge to shoot at until they die

[scenic axle]

They like to snipe you every once in a while too

[half hollow]

i mean they really only hit you if youre in an enclosed area

which is where they are at their best

[scenic axle]

Yeah they’re annoying little goobers when they get that lucky shot

[half hollow]

they do have large aoe its just that you never notice it when youre flying around the arena

[half hollow]

i feel like a lot of my placements here would be the complete opposite

[austere bronze]

ya which is so boring

[half hollow]

hold on imma quickly make one myself

[real holly]

which is why they're boring

[real holly]

the trustworthy d blade

[half hollow]

i mean i dont really mind tyrants being a damage sponge, its fun to just shoot gun at an enemy

[scenic axle]

Absolutely broken weapon

[half hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/589493404682027111/1470103714604777514/image.png?ex=698a1446&is=6988c2c6&hm=d51114d5d048d6fac52f2419e615577e10fd664ef340408f9fb0f6ca34a48084&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

felt like making my own

[real holly]

@patent stream scammer

[patent stream]

https://tenor.com/view/mhw-monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-hammer-mhw-hammer-gif-4493981768275536792

[scenic axle]

Nooo my goat the doom hunter

[half hollow]

me when i double bp (he just dies)

[scenic axle]

Facts

I think spirits are fun too

But I understand why you don’t

[real holly]

"and you will be their savior, your banhammer will be their shield and your will...their ban appeal"

[half hollow]

in concept they are good, in practice, why

[real holly]

harder enemy

[scenic axle]

Cause I want faster harder enemies

[real holly]

mini boss!

[half hollow]

not really the tankier enemy part

[scenic axle]

Just the way to kill them is stupid

[half hollow]

but like, i gotta save plasma ammo while fighting him, and then use one of the worst mods in the game to be locked pretty much in place for several seconds

[scenic axle]

You see I just don’t kill the spirit

But the way to kill it is such a horrible way

[half hollow]

i dont like doom eternals solution for buffing the shitty mods in the dlcs

[scenic axle]

Yeah stone imps suck

[real holly]

am i the only one that can handle the movement penalty of the microwave beam while i effectively freeze the possesed demons with free damage?

[scenic axle]

We’re talking about killing the spirit

[real holly]

like there's enough room to dodge shit and you know, you can just kill the other demons and then focus on the possesed

[scenic axle]

Not using it on the demon

[austere bronze]

ghost beam my goat

[real holly]

still i find myself shmoving slightly and its enough to save me

[scenic axle]

There can be, but it’s still a bad design and in some levels it can be very difficult to do that

Just because it kinda works doesn’t mean it’s a good decision choice

[real holly]

i mean fair

[half hollow]

and also just losing most of your movement in a movement shooter for several seconds and being locked in a specific area is inherently just not fun

[real holly]

i can just handle it though

[scenic axle]

Yeah I’m not saying I can’t, it just could’ve been implemented better

[austere bronze]

they put a larger emphasis on movement and decision making

btw
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188393862968922132/1470108085392642216/Screenshot_20260208_181519_Chrome.jpg?ex=698a1858&is=6988c6d8&hm=97ad31bac998b52c25de029efc44df892bec5fa7c294f3ef9208f8c3c99e1b90&

altho this is just how fun i think they are, not even how much i like them or how good/badly designed they are

[scenic axle]

The giant tentacles are so stupid

[half hollow]

why are armored barons so low compared to regular ones

[scenic axle]

I’d move the archville and doom hunter up by one and then I mostly agree

[real holly]

tf the arachnotron do to earn that spot

[half hollow]

being satisfying to kill

[real holly]

bc they are boring, you just wait for them to have an opening before actually fighting them, and by then they just become normal barons. The difference being with stuff like the marauder is that he's always going to be opening himself up for stuns while the armored baron kind of walks around awkwardly (like the dark lord) waiting to actually do something

[austere bronze]

buggy enemy+boring first stage+passive utilization of tokens+weaker in their normal baron form

[real holly]

also this

[austere bronze]

good enemy overall, nice weakpoint, good amount of health

it's just a solid enemy ngl

[fringe torrent]

Archvile in unfun pack it up vro

[real holly]

archville is in many ways unfun

[real holly]

i agree but i wouldn't put them at the tippity top myself

[austere bronze]

yeah that's actually fair

[pulsar smelt]

does anyone want to play battle mode with me?

[scenic axle]

Archville is my goat

[azure oriole]

this is a burger ahh tierlist

just kidding most of it is agreeable

[austere bronze]

if you don't 100% agree with my tierlist ur 100% wrong😤

[azure oriole]

word 🥶

[half hollow]

i found a mod that changes barons into vassagos from lor and honestly it just works so well that it makes me think that vassagos might be related to fireborn barons

which makes me even more disappointed that they didnt return in tda

they wouldve fit so well

[mossy vigil]

Why is the rampage inducer at D tier?
I'm not a professional at Doom Eternal, but the idea of something that makes the demons faster and more lethal, wouldn't it up the fun factor in challenge?
Despite me not being all that great, I usually leave it for last. Typically play on Ultra Violence or occasionally Nightmare.

[real holly]

so true bestie

[lethal vine]

need 2 people to help me with blood bath achievement 🥺

[austere bronze]

oh the the buff itself is super fun!

however, when they spawn in and if you don't want to die, you just run and destroy it as fast as possible

[silent wharf]

Just finished the main campaign, gonna do the old gods later

[austere bronze]

which is kinda boring, and makes it not gave a very big effect

[half hollow]

i dont think you physically can leave it for last unless the arena specifically forces you to as like most buff totem arenas spawn enemies infinitely

[mossy vigil]

Oh. Lol

[mossy vigil]

Damn, guess I forgot they spawn in demons

[silent wharf]

I think there should be a rune or something that gives all demons the buff totem effect permanently but makes them drop more recourses

[half hollow]

that would be better fitted as a modifier and not a rune

[silent wharf]

Yeah, thats what I meant

[half hollow]

no

[silent wharf]

Theres another game (not a doom game) that has a similar system but calls modifiers runes

[half hollow]

yeah well here runes are not that

because this is not that game

[silent wharf]

Yeah, just was used to calling them runes

[austere bronze]

wdym no😭

[azure oriole]

im attempting extra life mode on sgn master level on nintendo switch right now 💔

[wide fractal]

God rest ye soul

[azure oriole]

thank you thank you

im on the final encounter

[azure oriole]

MY STUPID FUCKING SWITCH CRASHED AGAIN

[scenic axle]

They just aren’t implemented super well

What m1 said

[astral hamlet]

Whiplashes in “pretty fun” come on now

This is how we know you never spend any time on the ground, M1

[half hollow]

i wanna know who made spectre whiplashes

who thought they were a good idea

[simple holly]

I hope they were fired for that/J

[austere bronze]

your fault for not using the no CC mod...

[astral hamlet]

I really should

Hitstun is so ass in this game

[scenic axle]

I think they’re quite cool enemies

[scenic axle]

Amazing enemy

[austere bronze]

spectre demons don't even have a spawn-in animation

screws with me good sometimes

[astral hamlet]

in the sense that their design and attack sequencing are cool in theory, yes

but in the sense that they're able to launch tracking waves that follow you off ledges and completely halt all speed you have, then no, they're not cool at all

[pulsar vector]

I love how small Doom one and two is I just bought it went to go make me a sandwich and boom it's done

[half hollow]

wait where do they even come from do they just materialize

[austere bronze]

yeah they just spawn

[real holly]

who put them there

[half hollow]

the level designer

[real holly]

crazy

[shrewd remnant]

can anyone explain yeethooking but on controller?

[scenic axle]

Switching to another gun before the meathook momentum is done

[silent wharf]

Does anyone else not bother with the waek point on a Mancubus?

Just dubble tap with the super shotgun then glory kill

[astral hamlet]

in the late game once you've got all your upgrades and mobility going, then I usually don't bother
but early on, sniping those cannons is the difference between them shooting fast 80-damage fireballs or 40-damage slow fireballs, so it makes quite a bit of difference

[scenic axle]

I do cause all my combos involve pb so I might as well hit it for the extra damage and falter

[austere bronze]

it doesn't do extra damage unless you sticky them, but the falter (especially with concussive blast) and reduced threat of the demon is good

[scenic axle]

Oh I thought breaking weak points did extra damage

Wait why did I even think that, where did I hear that 😭

[half hollow]

i mean destroying weakpoints does stun them and make them less of a threat letting you deal more damage easier

[scenic axle]

Yeah I thought it made the attack do more damage though, no clue where I got that idea

[half hollow]

youre very much only able to get away with that on lower difficulties

[vapid timber]

Js bought doom eternal tell me something i wont understand rn but i will understand later

[hasty stirrup]

“We will not be able to control it! Nooooo!”

Get ready to experience peak

[vapid timber]

Oke

I bought doom 2016 month ago js finished it

[elder raft]

"You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of mars"

You may understand the intention because it outright says it but out of context, quite the insane thing to hear

[vapid timber]

Doom CAN SHOOT A FUHIN HOLE THROUGH THE MARS?

[elder raft]

You'll have to play and find out

[fringe torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-stan-twitter-gif-11982472424887997248

Brought back to big chungus reddit 2020 internet era

[elder raft]

I miss those times man

[hasty stirrup]

That’s the one I wanted to say but it would be a spoiler 😭

[elder raft]

What would it spoil? It would spoil if you say why and how it happens but not the fact that it happens

[fringe torrent]

It absolutely is a spoiler that it happens brah lmao

With that logic "Iron Man dies" isn't an Endgame spoiler

[hasty stirrup]

I don’t remember it being revealed in the trailers, we only saw that Mars was blown up for some reason

[mighty pendant]

the longer the icon of sin is on earth the stronger it will become

[elder raft]

How is that the same thing? Doom slayer doing something to achieve something and a character fucking dying are 2 seperate things. Again, if i said the meaning behind it and all that, fair. But the action itself out of context makes no sense and spoils nothing as far as i see

[hasty stirrup]

The action itself counts as a spoiler regardless. If they didn’t know what would happen in the story, then it technically is a spoiler. Even the small events that don’t matter

[fringe torrent]

I was using your logic of "event happening is not a spoiler, how and why it happens is a spoiler"

[hasty stirrup]

By the way the guy reacted, it was the reaction of someone being spoiled

[elder raft]

Events differ from eachother. Not all are alike

[fringe torrent]

Okay but this is still a spoilery event because it means that the Slayer suddenly possesses the means to blow a planet up

[elder raft]

How. What in the story does that spoil. The fact that it happens? Cool? That isn't exactly some insane part in the story. It's just doom slayer doing doom slayer things

[elder raft]

Which he'll have to see how happens. If anything, that creates more excitement

[fringe torrent]

The game itself teases this excitement though and if anything this lessens the excitement, because you're not suddenly shown the fact that you want to blow the fuck out of a planet, you start the game knowing this need will come

[hasty stirrup]

It still is a spoiler, even though the act itself doesn’t play a big part in the story because they didn’t know unless they would have played it. And blowing up Mars is still a big event, it’s the location from the previous game.

[elder raft]

Whatever. Fuck this. Not worth it

[hasty stirrup]

Agreed lol, hope bro enjoys the game, looking forward to their reactions

[acoustic rose]

Hey guys,any idea how to increase the movement speed further in eternal aside from the basic mechanics and runes

[balmy ruin]

ballista boost and bunnyhop

[scenic axle]

yeethooking too

[real holly]

hmm i think im ready to actually try to master the sgn and mc master levels

since i managed to handle the holt properly now

like yeah i beat them on un but it was by the skin of my teeth

[scenic axle]

you got this!

[silent wharf]

Ive only played the campaign once on regular difficulty to get the story, im gonna reply all the modern games on max difficulty later

[half hollow]

checks out

[storm field]

@gusty trench Can you help about that?

[trail ice]

How long does the first mission take on Ultra-Nightmare?

[half hollow]

20 minutes maybe

[astral hamlet]

Same time as it takes on regular nightmare

[regal island]

3 hours

[gusty trench]

Yup, Im at work tho currently

[scenic axle]

67 hours

[simple holly]

https://tenor.com/view/taenyphobic-gif-21277894

[gusty trench]

https://tenor.com/view/victory-gundam-cronicle-asher-punch-begone-foul-child-uso-ewin-gif-16525747838857746362

[half hollow]

alright so all the master levels have been pretty easy up until now

and then taras nabad ml came along, kicked me in the nuts and killed my dog

[storm field]

so later then

[azure compass]

please help trophy

[scenic axle]

I always found it to be one of the hardest, but I recently replayed it and SNG and I found it easier, idk why

maybe I was just playing better when I did taras

[astral hamlet]

probably

SGN is a little unconventional but it’s not that difficult

[real holly]

taras nabad ml is the hardest one

[astral hamlet]

Have you given the world spear a shot yet

I found it to be the hardest just because of how much of a grind it is

[real holly]

ironically out of all the ml's it's the only one i haven't UN'd

i just don't like the hammer

[scenic axle]

I think if you don't use superweapons it's harder

If you abuse the hammer though then it's easier than taras

[real holly]

yeah I'm basically forced to use a weapon I don't like using

[scenic axle]

it's quite stupid how long some of the encounters are

[astral hamlet]

The couple times I played it I was having a super difficult time, but then I remembered the hammer existed
And all of a sudden it was easier, but I wasn’t having any more fun

[scenic axle]

yeah using the hammer just takes fun out of it

[regal island]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doomguy-doom-eternal-doom-eternal-shotgun-load-doom-eternal-shotgun-gif-20646766

[scenic axle]

I want to beat the encounter because I'm good, not because I spammed the "I win" button

[silent wharf]

Just started the ancient gods part 2

About time with the meat hook grabbing points

[real holly]

yeah

[scenic axle]

They’re such a great addition to the game

[silent wharf]

Yeah

[trail ice]

Bro I never played the game before I started my first playthrough on Ultra-Nightmare today

[storm eagle]

lol gl with that I suppose

[viscid marten]

Soon…

They will fear me..

Soon…

-# that means I’m gonna get eternal soon btw :3

[viscid marten]

Wait u played eternal too right?

[storm eagle]

Yup

I've played all of the Doom games

[viscid marten]

every single one? Even doom three?

[storm eagle]

Yep

[viscid marten]

WOAW

Yk, idk about getting 64 or doom three

[trail ice]

Yea well I only died twice yet or three times because in one area I got surrounded by demons and got soft locked

[fringe torrent]

3 gets you more bang for your buck

64 is the worst one imo while 3 is on the higher end, me personally? I recommend 3

[viscid marten]

Alrighty

[storm eagle]

I like 64 more but the young'ens here mainly prefer 3

[viscid marten]

Since me and my sibling share a switch, I’m afraid I have to hear her complain about archiving another game of her’s just to get doom three

So I’m being cautious..

[astral hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182

[viscid marten]

Son…I don’t think you should do that

[storm eagle]

Why start on the hardest when you haven't even done Nightmare yet? I ask this respectfully but is it an ego or challenge thing? Better imo to learn the actual game first. But if you wanna go for it keep on, man. Rootin' for ya.

[viscid marten]

I am thinking about getting a non doom game called Signalis too

[trail ice]

Well idk I also play Cyberpunk on hardest difficulty i mean I play many FPS so I think it’s more like a challenge thing

[storm eagle]

Fair enough. Let us know how it goes!

[trail ice]

Alright ima do that 🙂‍↕️

[gusty trench]

Like 2 hours from now, ill be available

[graceful current]

Doom 3 is more fun

I do like Doom 64 a lot but 3 is more unique

[viscid marten]

Ok

[mortal pecan]

they're both really good but I really like the visual "style" of the Doom 3 engine

and there's a huge emphasis on a sort of immersive storytelling that we've never really seen before or since in Doom
it's fun to experience just as sa different take on it

[graceful current]

that first invasion section of doom 3... houuugh

i think that's my favourite doom level ever

[scenic axle]

Good luck with that, but if you put like 20+ hours into the game and still aren’t making much progress I’d recommend switching to normal nightmare first. Generally the start of the game is the hardest part because of how weak your arsenal is, but if you’re new then the harder enemies later will probably get you killed because you don’t know how to fight them

[azure umbra]

does anyone know a place i can post doom eternal playthroughs

that wont copyright strike

[scenic axle]

YouTube

That’s what I do

[weary shadow]

hi, what should I do if the game doesn't start? it appears in the task manager for 5 seconds and then closes

[acoustic rose]

But using ballista boost with the air control rune ruins it doesn't it?

[austere bronze]

no, you just need to let go of movement keys before turning around, and only press them once you've turned back

also, single dashing will make you move better

[acoustic rose]

Understood

[storm field]

@gusty trench are you free now?

[strong halo]

yesterday I bought an adapter for my ps5 so I can play doom eternal on keyboard and mouse, but when I tried it out nothing was working only the controller, so how can I fix this?

[storm field]

is it still valid?

[halcyon oar]

Done few days ago sry

[tacit maple]

Hey guys, I’m looking for someone who could help me with battlemode trophies (doom eternal ps5)

I’m going to play this evening

[storm field]

I also need that too

56/200 kills

[scenic axle]

is it bad to be holding s while I do the boost and then switching back to w? It still gives me a boost but im wondering if it's worse

I'll try it out sometime but I might not be able to for a while

[tacit maple]

If you want I’ll be available in 2/3 Hours. The Perfect solution would be play in 3

[trail ice]

So guys i finished the first mission on ultra-nightmare with 4 deaths, but does it reset the entire playthrough if i die or only the mission?

[austere bronze]

the entire playthrough

don't start on ultra nightmare, it's a mid difficulty anyways

[trail ice]

alright

[wide fractal]

first un run of ancient gods 2 of the day and i died on the encounter right before the ending of reclaimed earth

i did pretty good

[trail ice]

i think i just lost my Ultra Nightmare run entirely because i was in the second mission and somehow clipped through a climbing wall and fell under the map where i dont get returned anymore and i cant even see the map in the tab anymore cuz im too far away

[scenic axle]

that's wierd

You should play normal nightmare though

[astral hamlet]

Alt-f4

If you encounter a bug, just exit out and open the game again

[silent wharf]

Anyone else feel like the sound afect for the single armor piece pick up is too loud?

[fierce topaz]

I like it because it feels meaty

[amber frost]

It's very satisfying

[tacit maple]

Need a third for battlemode

With me e @tacit peak

@storm field sorry

[gusty trench]

No im at work again lol, in like 6 hours ill be free

[silent wharf]

Right, but its too loud

[half hollow]

the humble audio settings

[simple holly]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

[fringe torrent]

It could be loud compared to the other pickups. You can't change sound effect volume seperately

[half hollow]

skill issue idk

[simple holly]

Just delete the audio file from the game/J

[half hollow]

tbh this is a viable solution

replace the file wih a muted one

so shrimple

not like you need the audio cue

[simple holly]

I don’t… think it works like that.

[half hollow]

what if i called it modding

would it make more sense

[simple holly]

Well yeah but I was saying literally just going into the game folder.

[scenic axle]

What if it did work though

[simple holly]

I dunno

[strong halo]

yesterday I bought an adapter for my ps5 so I can play doom eternal on keyboard and mouse, but when I tried it out nothing was working only the controller, so how can I fix this?

[lethal ibex]

I want to imagine some UAC cultist has some propaganda of "oh, the slayer only beat the dark lord cuz the dark lord didn't have enough time to warm up."

[real holly]

what's this a batman v other character argument? "Batman didn't have enough prep time"

also world spears entire ost is so good, from the ambience, to the heavy fighting to the super heavy fighting i wish the level kept up with the height of the music

same goes for immora but not as bad

[lethal ibex]

No, it's a "UAC are so stupid and hate the slayer so much they can't accept he killed god" kind of thing.

[real holly]

oh def

"Slayer cheated i just know it"

[lethal ibex]

Yeah, like that.

[real holly]

the UAC seeing the Slayer singlehandedly turn the Icon into a unrecognizable pile of cooked meat

[lethal ibex]

"Yeah, no that didn't happen. The slayer couldn't possibly do that."

• UAC.

[scenic axle]

I think it's a really cool looking level, it's just so empty

[real holly]

i like the concept of this, massive trek to the world spear

but it's so empty outside of the castle

same happens to immora, it feels so empty and unremarkable outside of the Sentinel forces fighting in the background

[scenic axle]

yeah I just wish there was more there

[real holly]

the interior of the city seems like a nonsensical mishmash of red pipes and stuff, the interior rooms feel so nothingburgerish

like compare that to the interior of Nekravol

every room on a replay is like "oh i remember this part" while with immora its just "red pipes"

[real holly]

holy shit i replayed super gore nest master level and did it nightmare without dying first try

i have improved lol, tried mars core previously bc it was just SO long i got burnt out and let myself die

[lethal ibex]

You're shitting me.
That's awesome, dude.

[scenic axle]

Nice job

[real holly]

plus no superweapons either! And no chaingun shield, decided to still whip out the lob just incase

okay tried taras nabad and died at the stupid buff totem forced arena

[native torrent]

How hard is it to get all of the steam achievements?

[real holly]

tried the immora balanced ml mod, everything was alright until that one arena where "the only thing they fear is you" plays and that's just bs, too much shit everywhere with next to no rhyme or reason

[silent wharf]

Is there a way to make custom encounters?

[scenic axle]

Is that the one with the possessed archville

[real holly]

idk I didn't see one i quit once i died

i find it funny how doom hunters are only a threat in ml's bc they put them in close quarters, have more than on and you'll probably be running out of blood punches alot more here

[scenic axle]

You don't really need bp's to deal with them, you can kill them really quickly from range too

[astral hamlet]

Try micromissiles

[real holly]

okay so i found the best strat to deal with the possesed marauder is lock on burst to move his shield away and then either ballista or pb

[real holly]

huh thats actually pretty effective tf

[scenic axle]

Yeah redirects are great

I need to get better at them I’m not that good

[astral hamlet]

Yeah, they’re almost entirely splash damage, which will hit their sled regardless of whether they have their shield up or not
Plus I’m pretty sure doom hunters even take extra damage from them

[real holly]

are there any stage mods where i can practice 1v1s against possesed marauder like idk

like im just replaying the holts slayer gate rn

okay slayerpalest will do the job, already 1v1 and killed a possesed marauder

[mortal shell]

me watching in absolute fucking horror as the baron jumps in front of my bfg projectile and fucking tanks it with 3000hp remaining:

[scenic axle]

Try the buffstacked marauder

That ones fun

[real holly]

just did

didnt die instantly at least, got plenty of hits in with redirect+ballista

there killed it on my second try

[scenic axle]

he's quite a cool enemy

[real holly]

pretty rad boss fight, lemme try buffstacked archville

died nearly instantly lmao

[scenic axle]

LOL

I haven't done that one I gotta try it eventually

[real holly]

i killed one of them before dying at least

[scenic axle]

Go try niflheim pass, that's a good level

[real holly]

killed the behemoth, yeah i wish the tyrant was just this

[scenic axle]

Nah I'm glad they're separate enemies, the tyrante being that tanky would not be fair for most players

[real holly]

okay thats fair

infernal mastermind pretty cool too

[scenic axle]

Oh yeah that's a cool enemy

Make movement and positioning be your #1 priority, being in the wrong spot is the easiest way to die

Getting cornered, being up close to mancubi, barons, close range enemies. Keep your distance and try not taking damage

[real holly]

so it turns out the 4 buffstacked archville encounter isnt that hard if u use ur two bfg shots

[scenic axle]

well yeah the bfg is quite op

[astral hamlet]

Behemoths are stupid tanky tbf

Annoyingly tanky in a lot of cases

[real holly]

okay so i managed the 5 marauder encounter, that was fun

[scenic axle]

Yeah by themself they aren't a problem, they just take forever to kill

[real holly]

spectre marauders honestly seemed like normal ass marauders

like theres not much added by making them spectres tbh

[zenith vault]

why is the pain elemental the worst toy to get

hardest

[real holly]

kay killed the 4 buffstacked archvilles without bfg

all it took was 5 quintillion lock on burts but we got ther

[wide fractal]

i accidentally dashed into a very specific spot on the campaign version world spear on ultra nightmare, and it launched me ALL the way to the completion area somehow and now i have the gold heavy cannon and ssg

i feel undeserving

[scenic axle]

LOL

[drowsy wedge]

whiplashes are legit the most annoying demon in the game

you get stuck once while theyre about to do their huge ground whips and youre just absolutely fucked

[real holly]

slayerpalest is so fun

buffstacked marauder counts as a boss in my eyes

rocket redirect is the one missing piece i needed to properly deal with buffstacked marauders

5 marauder fight was also fun

[scenic axle]

Annoying but like cool too

[scenic axle]

archvilles are awesome

[half hollow]

which guy from devil may cry

there are a lot of guys

[austere bronze]

goat

honestly killing the 2 buffstacked marauders in that encounter takes almost as long as killing the 4 archviles

[scenic axle]

It has buffstacked marauders too wutdaflip

[austere bronze]

Ye 1 respawning caco, cursed prowler, blood maykr, and 2 marauders

all buffstacked, and when the 4 archies die, they stop respawning

the strat is honestly just using the 3 meathook nodes to be super high all the time and perma-stagger the caco and cursed prowler

[scenic axle]

that's goofy

[austere bronze]

very goofy encounter

[gilded patrol]

nah u gotta watch malswrld he litterally made 2 vids each on doom eternal and dmc

also im bored so im gonna invade convos

uninvited

[real holly]

@jaunty flower scammer

this is the second gta cash individual I've noticed, maybe that word should be removed lol

[silent mortar]

Guys i missed one slayer gate at super gore nest and then i replay it but i can't open slayer gate and i can't find the slayer key

Is it because i replay with cheats on?

I've already been collected the key in first play through

[elder raft]

It doesn't matter if you have collected it. It resets if you don't do the slayer gate during that run. And yes, slayer gates are disabled with cheats on

[silent mortar]

So i gotta turn cheats off and replay it right?

[vague garden]

Yes

[silent mortar]

Ohhhh ok thanks you guys struggling to get unmaykr , thank alot for the help🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[real holly]

https://youtu.be/q2vqIBVSE7c ez

under 2 minutes too

[icy ore]

If i play doom eternal with mods (only weapons skin), can i still get achivevements ?

[austere bronze]

yes