doom-eternal

[unique abyss]

I'm not sure but

• I want to complete the game on Nightmare
• I find it a bit silly that to play the game well, you shoud do a quickswap weapon combos like I'm playing a Japanese fighting game all over again
• Then again, it is my first playthrough of Nightmare difficulty. I have died way more times than my first playthrough haha

Sure. I don't mind. DMs?

[austere bronze]

okay

[austere bronze]

you don't need to do quick swap combos to play the game well

and if you're doing the main game on nightmare, i'd recommend you familiarize yourself with the arsenal more before starting to quick swap

[iron marten]

I love battlemode, it's so fun

[scenic axle]

Why does everyone think that you need to quickswap insanely well to be good

[patent stream]

It’s more so the “easy” and its in quotes that’s not exactly what I mean, way to truly just knock out all the demons super fast

Like when you see just swap spam of ssg pb rpg ballista etc

Because they are strong single hitting weapons

[rotund brook]

Hey so when do I get to listen to the only thing they fear is you playing

[patent stream]

But just swapping fairly normally while utilizing the weapon mods and proper equipment usage and positioning and more can bridge the gap nicely.

[keen gust]

Arc Complex

[austere bronze]

i think it's mostly 2 things
it's the easiest thing to see a difference in between normal and good gameplay
and when many say how important and good it is, everyone just starts believing it

[gritty stream]

hello everyone

gonna start doom-eternal today:)

[austere bronze]

good luck and have fun!

[real holly]

i think the biggest thing about quickswapping that everyone seems to forget is that it's legitimately only one microscopic piece of the puzzle to know how to quickswap to kill one demon

but then there's positioning, strategy and movement, the actual important things to learn

[austere bronze]

yeah, it's just the most easily noticed aspect

good positioning and decision making for example is much harder to spot

[real holly]

I wasn't impressed by my quickswapping abilities in one of my cultist base runs, i was impressed by my outplaying of the demons ai

that one clip i have of me missing my triple chainsaw to a mancubus

to a gargoyle, and there i have my insta kill gone, a cacodemon showing up nearby and another mancubus closing in

my quickswapping or gunplay didn't save me, my movement, knowledge of the enemy and decisions saved me

this shit is only gained by playing the game alot and asking around

knowing quickswapping won't be the end all be all

[austere bronze]

i feel like it's really easy to blame you dying on not knowing quick swaps, when that's just not the case for you not succeeding

which probably also contributes to quick swapping being so praised

[real holly]

its just way harder to grasp that sort of, game knowledge you get later on

[austere bronze]

yeah

[real holly]

like i find myself failing quickswaps and all that cool tech constantly, but i survive bc of my game knowledge regardless

im like "huh that didn't look cool but how tf did i do without low health?" and then i remember i was outplaying the demon ai all the time while failing to properly quickswap and tech, and everytime i made a mistake my game sense kicked in and i just, avoid the demons properly

[half hollow]

loud incorrect buzzer

[austere bronze]

what exactly are you basing this on?

[half hollow]

playing the game

i mean the game kinda incentivises you to quickswitch

[austere bronze]

that's kind of a non-argument though

[half hollow]

yeah but also do you think its better to be quickswitching or to not be quickswitching

[austere bronze]

yeah but it causes many people to tunnel vision more and not learn their arsenal

[austere bronze]

obviously it's better to quick swap, but i also think it's far from the highest priority when learning the game, it's not essential, and you don't need it to be good

[half hollow]

but you need it to play better

its not even like that difficult of a mechanic to master, you shoot gun and you switch to different gun

[austere bronze]

are we moving the goalpost now? i just said that you don't need quick swaps to play well, and you said i was wrong

[austere bronze]

you can achieve very similar DPS by just using your arsenal well btw

mobile turret is as high DPS as pb+rocket, and lock-on burst is higher DPS...

destroyer blade is also the highest possible source of DPS if you hit multiple enemies

[half hollow]

yeah but also

mobile turret has you slowing down and focus firing for a longer time than just quick switching to deal the same amount of damage in a much shorter time

[austere bronze]

by simply swapping weapons (no animation cancelling, aka quick swaps) you'll get most of the DPS and arsenal utilization as you get by quick swapping

[austere bronze]

bhop or get in the air

mobile turret also falters hell classes more, which is a nice bonus

[half hollow]

i guess but like, energy shield is right there

[austere bronze]

you can swap between gun atachments btw

[half hollow]

yeah i know

[austere bronze]

so why bring up the shield then?

[half hollow]

because energy shield is just better than mobile turret

[austere bronze]

i don't mean to sound pretentious, but i feel like it can add some perspective to the conversation
i both play the game and quick swap at the highest level, so i understand the mechanics and what quick swapping does, and when looking at the DPS and arsenal utilization and such, quick swapping is overall just overrated

anyone who treats it as a necessity, even as a necessity to be good, is wrong

[storm eagle]

Adding tech, or relying on things like the shield, does not equal maximized gameplay. M1 is saying that you can play the game at a high level just by knowing which weapons to use and when and how to properly. People rely too heavily on things like swapping as fast as possible, thinking you're not playing the game right if you don't. I've seen many players who do this who still don't understand the game at all, and waste effort into something that could be done a much simpler way.

[gritty stream]

i love challenging games, and am prepared to die a lot and learn, should i just go with nightmare difficulty? i heard u can change the difficulty even after u started a playtrough, is that right?

[storm eagle]

yeah go for it!

[austere bronze]

sure, but not DPS wise

[storm eagle]

It adds nothing to skillset either imo

[scenic axle]

Yes it’s optimal, but you can still play at the top level without doing it

[frank garnet]

Good evening! Just one question. I'm trying to plat Doom Eternal, but I wanted to know how long it takes to do the Battlemode trophies. Or if they are complicated, or if they can be done in a private match or anything like that.

[digital hill]

Guys how do i increase my Sensitivity in doom eternal(console) It's already maxed out, but it seems like it's still too slow, did I miss something?

[pine vortex]

Hi

[drowsy pollen]

Hey

[drowsy pollen]

They can be done in a private match and idk if its complicated bc i never played battlemode (ps plus too expensive)

[summer blaze]

Hi, I'm new to the doom franchise and have played DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal. I wanna know if it's worth buying the two DLCs for DOOM Eternal, they are really expensive compared to the base game, both DLCs cost 40 euros and have three missions per DLC while DOOM Eternal costs the same with more than twice the amount of missions (13).

[fringe torrent]

Wait for a sale. Not worth the base price

[candid dawn]

It's slightly cheaper if you get the year one pass

[drowsy wedge]

its also worth noting that especially tag1 the missions are long enough to be like 2 missions

specifically the first mission

[frank garnet]

How cheaper though? Like twenty dollars still, fifteen? I'm also looking to buy for the DLCs or asking a friend to gameshare them because they don't sound that long.

[austere bronze]

25% cheaper compared to buying them individually

from 40 dollars to 30

[fringe torrent]

Still 5 dollars per level btw the price is atrocious

[golden knot]

I bought the whole doom pack on switch for about 23$

Like Doom I, Doom II, Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal.

[austere bronze]

yeah

[fringe torrent]

No DOOM 3? That's a shame

[golden knot]

Wait.

I think I bought 'em separately but I used discount so I paid about 23$.

[half hollow]

sin punishable by death

[full kindle]

yo can someone help me with doom eternal platinum?

[frank garnet]

As far as I know the collection comes with Doom 3. The Slayer Collection at least.

[golden knot]

Yeah, I remember I bought it separately.

[soft gull]

how do I turn off mouse smoothing

[astral hamlet]

if your console is unlocked, just open it and enter m_smoothing 0

[waxen dawn]

I bought doom eternal today and I'm on the cultist mission and I got to say I love this game so far

[spiral shard]

Yeah it’s fun I played it on switch forever

Got switch 2 now

[austere bronze]

awesome!

[hidden cairn]

E1m1

[fair tangle]

Morning, doomers

A brand new day of dooming

[crude rampart]

Morning brother

RIP AND TEAR UNTIL ITS DONE

[olive solar]

https://youtu.be/BUO2WVNAZxA

[half hollow]

i just realized now that the ultimate doom unity port on steam has been replaced with doom 1 + 2, i for some reason lost the doom 1 rewards i used to have on eternal

i dont have the indigo doom marine skin anymore

i still have the doom 2 rewards as i still have the doom 2 unity port

[austere bronze]

dam my eternal got corrupted and reset

[fringe torrent]

Mid skin has been taken away

[half hollow]

i wasnt planning on using it ever but i want the novelty of having it

[fringe torrent]

I mean if you're turbo desperate you can buy it on GOG I guess. Or just downpatch your D+D2 to the Unity port and try again there

[half hollow]

im guessing its an oversight

[half ice]

Sup

[hushed palm]

NOO

[viscid marten]

tis a sad day

[viscid marten]

hai again!

[hushed palm]

hi cyclone!

part of me misses doom eternal but i was so done with the game after like a straight month of grinding the last milestones 😭 might be time for my return with some of the mods i was suggested

[austere bronze]

actually

doesn't matter a ton for me though

most annoying thing is just that i'll have to noclip through tag2 on UN again for the skullface skin

[modest swift]

blood swamps gotta be the hardest level i've played in this game so far

[austere bronze]

those 2 large arenas are pretty rough

but also really good imo

[modest swift]

first arena was impossible to me to beat before i watched on yt where is totem placed in second wave

i literally was dying in 5 seconds because i couldn't find it quickly

[austere bronze]

in the arena that eventually spawns a possessed varon?

[modest swift]

https://youtu.be/MzTjgpRF3wU?si=W-S2kpsfuHFmF8E1&t=2958

this arena

[austere bronze]

oh yeah

that's the one i meant as well

i remember struggling really badly with it😭

[modest swift]

it's funny for me that atlantica level heaviest part of music giving me ptsd but not blood swamps one

both of them are great challenging levels for sure

would like to try to master them

[modest swift]

i was beating the first and second waves of second big arena without bfg lol

[austere bronze]

atlantica is way too peak

my fave level probably

[modest swift]

wait there was even whiplash in 3rd wave with 2 archies and hunter?

lol

[strange gale]

a certified profile.bin classic 🥹

[austere bronze]

holy shit it's been a long time since i last saw you

[strange gale]

yeah i don't really hang out in public servers anymore

empl*yment changed me...

[little moth]

https://tenor.com/view/job-job-application-jobless-gif-2757097081210871087

[half hollow]

i should attempt ultra nightmare

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

[urban plinth]

AYOOOOO wasssuuupp

its been 2 decades since ive talked here

[drowsy wedge]

i remember when you said this last month

[storm eagle]

was just thinking this lol

[real holly]

agreed, especially the possessed baron one

on another note, recently I've been more interested in saving triple chainsaw fuel for pain elementals

i just, don't like fighting them, its a short fight like 5 seconds but i feel the need to hunt them down first and foremost

and ignore everything else until the pain elemental perishes

it kind of imo falls under that Archville category of "kill it first if you don't want a pain in the ass" but less prevalent

[topaz yarrow]

Can you blow a hole in the surface of mars yes or no

[real holly]

ask Samuel Hayden I'm pretty sure he'll say yes

[austere bronze]

if you need to until the pain elemental down, it probably doesn't present a very high threat

[real holly]

wdym

[austere bronze]

i agree that pain elementals are one of the highest priorities, but if you need to hunt them down, their threat is probably minimal in the moment

because they can't really do a lot to you in the moment

[real holly]

yeah bc like, if I don't hunt them down they become a ultra nuisance when im fighting something else

[rocky saddle]

do people still play battlemode

i want to go for 100% achievements sometime

[cloud locust]

Cl I started getting back into doom and I 100% say doom eternal is the best one in the franchise lol

[fierce topaz]

Died at the last phase of the last boss on ultra nightmare

It was at 20% health 😭

[scenic axle]

WHAT

rip

[warped sage]

“So close, yet so far”

I’ve seen even worse though, that’s in 2016 when you happen to die at the same time as the Mastermind.

[ocean quartz]

a lot of people say the elena richardson logs make them feel super cool but for me personally they always made me want to claw out of the praetor suit and run for the hills
anyone else just get uncomfortable listening to them

Miss Richardson
Please Calm Down
You're Scaring Me

[hasty zephyr]

I only get a little uncomfortable by those logs

Mostly I'm like, ma'am calm down this is getting weird

[sand basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a4tI8bMdyM

[real holly]

the first few times its cool

then you realize its kind of weird and thirst-esque and it loses the cool factor

they legitimately tried to do Slayer testaments again but idk what they were thinking with Elena

[ocean quartz]

the testaments were already pretty ridiculous to me

[sand basin]

every character in-game either treats doomguy like a celebrity or like the most terrifying man in existence, no inbetween

Gotta love how isn't scared of him, bro is so excited whenever is around

my headcanon is that intern owns doomguy merchandise

[ocean quartz]

mf he probably makes it HIMSELF

[sand basin]

absolutely

and yeah elena richardson also sounds like she'd secretly write fanfic about doomguy

[ocean quartz]

there's a comment under a video showcasing her logs that says something akin to
"i can picture her scribbling "mrs elena taggart" on the back of her notebook with little hearts around it"

which i find HYSTERICAL

[sand basin]

[real holly]

at least they were cool and not awkward/thirst shit

[dapper nova]

How to create music change mods with id studio?

[half hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589493404682027111/1463590988126748823/DOOMEternal_21_01_2026_19_45_42.png?ex=697262d3&is=69711153&hm=20bcd032066c90f129ba9edb4c76aa69bf1ee10d7902cd78fcad0c64a81c5097&

didnt know it was that easy to get until now

i just had to ask bethesda support to give me it and they just kinda did no questions asked

[edgy willow]

Question; if i were to beat the SGN master level on nightmare, would I'm too young to die through UV also be counted towards reward progress?

As in through the one completion, or do i gotta beat those individually as well

[fringe torrent]

I believe those would be marked as complete aswell

[real holly]

yes

I already 100% every ML in the main campaign, just play on nightmare and u get the other rewards

[edgy willow]

Ohh huge. Ty

[scenic axle]

I started doing that then realized I just wanted modded skins anyway lol

[real holly]

i just did it for completion and to challenge myself

never again

[scenic axle]

UN is really the only challenging one too so it’s just a waste of time unless you really enjoy the levels

[real holly]

and I don't ❤️

master levels are for more hardcore players

I won't deny I enjoy some arenas in them doe

[neon tiger]

Hi, I would like to ask if its possible to ask sw support for patching dom eternal 1.1 with gfx fixes released officially in 2.1 and discard the other changes of the game mechanics? is there a place where I can create such support ticket? regards

[shrewd cobalt]

estoy cerca de pasarme el eternal en pesadilla solo me falta el ídolo del pecado estoy feliz

I'm close to spending my eternal life in a nightmare. All I'm missing is the idol of sin. I'm happy.

[tawny kindle]

What do you guys think the best leave to improve your skill is

Excluding dlc

[ebon mesa]

Cosmetics in a DOOM game feels weird.

[viscid marten]

It be that way

[shrewd cobalt]

Jugar en las mayores dificultades para adaptarse, y usar el cambio de arma rápido para hacer el mayor daño posible

[unique abyss]

Stupid question but how does Precision Bolt work? Do I need to scope in first then click Fire? I seem to only fire normally when I scope in. 🤔

[drowsy wedge]

you scope then fire yes

quick enough itll feel like one action

it only does the powered shot once before the cooldown

[scenic axle]

Final sin

Sgn master level is great if you’re good enough

[tawny kindle]

Thank you

[tawny kindle]

Not yet

[shrewd cobalt]

En mi caso soy de pc y coloco el boton de las armas cerca de los botones ASDW para de mejor manera a las armas que necesito

[storm eagle]

English only please

[dapper nova]

How do I make mods through ID studio?

[kind basin]

Use the hardest difficulties to adapt, and use weapon swapping to do the most damage possible.

Boi when that Spanish class be paying off, it be paying off

[half hollow]

you know what also pays off

the humble translate message plugin i have

[kind basin]

Ngl tho it feels better when you just know

[lethal ibex]

Here me out on this (and I'm not trying to start a flame war, I swear):
I think the sentinel hammer is better than the crucible because they give you an alternative to recharge it.

[half hollow]

hot take: [the most frozen ass take imagineable]

[austere bronze]

better designed weapon, or more op in combat?

[lethal ibex]

Better designed.

Like, with the crucible, you can't find the recharge tokens when you replay levels before you got it.

Not saying that's a bad thing, but I dislike weapons that you can only find ammo for once in a blue moon, and that's the only way to recharge them.

(Excluding the BFG)

[scenic axle]

The hammer is so poorly designed because of how overpowered it is and how often you can spam it

[drowsy wedge]

which is cool and fun af

[austere bronze]

something can be cool and fun without being overpowered or disruptive to the gameplay tho

[drowsy wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-gif-12400909152392766027

me and M1 when the hammer comes up again

[real holly]

true

ive stated it here before but I'm with M1 on this one

also the hammer doesn't really feel that cool to me, it doesn't even wack demons with it, its just a ground slam that knocks demons out momentarily

[scenic axle]

Yeah it just lets you have horrible positioning and decision making with no repercussions cause you have a get out of jail free card

[real holly]

no wonder the Betrayer survived all those years, all had to do was press one button and bam, all the demons in the vicinity fall asleep momentarily

[austere bronze]

yeah the hammer doesn't directly do much on its own, rather it allows you to act carelessly and increase dps without playing better

it does things under the surface too which is just counter to what eternal's combat is

like dachicken said, your positioning doesn't matter as much since you can slam enemies which gets close

threat management/enemy prioritization is also less important because of that

[real holly]

they should have made an enemy called "stone tyrant" and you can only kill it with unmakyr projectiles

[austere bronze]

the hammer also helps you sustain yourself massively, which can make earlier mistakes nullified

[brazen echo]

stone imps were badd enough

[austere bronze]

oh and it being charged partially via glory kills is so bad😭

[brazen echo]

The main issue with the hammer was the final fight was basically built around it

[austere bronze]

i'd say that's more of an issue with the dark lord fight itself

[real holly]

temu marauder

[brazen echo]

base marauder itself was fun

possessed marauders and dark lord, not so much

[austere bronze]

the main issue with the hammer is how busted it is

[brazen echo]

At least it made the mace demon bearable

[real holly]

possesed marauder is a buggy mess

buff marauder is cool

[austere bronze]

it's kinda annoying how the possessed marauder just makes lock-on redirects harder for no reason😭

[brazen echo]

the ghost as a whole was buggy

[austere bronze]

how so?

[brazen echo]

They needed to really give you a shield or something with the plasma rifle when dealing with it

buiggy in terms of sometimes it would instantly dive into the next demon

or phase through a wall

[austere bronze]

i think it's good how you need to think about when and where you kill a possessed demon

[austere bronze]

i don't really think that's a bug which exists

and it can possess any demon, regardless of where they are

not a bug

[brazen echo]

Then I must've been against some ninja level possessors

[topaz yarrow]

You know what? I feel like doing the base campaign on ultra violence. Why? I shamed the slayer by doing hurt me plenty. So now I’m getting him his honour back.

[scenic axle]

Nothing wrong with playing on any difficulty, play on the one that you enjoy the most

[austere bronze]

erm do ultra nightmare or ur bad

-guy who's never touched normal nightmare

[fringe torrent]

Whoever says that is a monstrous feline!

[scenic axle]

And you gotta do it blindfolded melee only

[swift cipher]

This skin is so clean

The tutorial slayer

So pretty

Bro

[topaz yarrow]

I know it sounds edgy, but my favourite SSG skin is the bloodstained.

[swift cipher]

Awesome

[swift cipher]

Its mine too lol

[topaz yarrow]

Shield mod or turret mod? (I prefer shield)

[swift cipher]

I play xbox

[swift cipher]

Shield

Turret sucks

[austere bronze]

i wouldn't say it sucks

got pretty good dps

[topaz yarrow]

Any gun is good if you can use it properly (don’t bother with micro missiles unless you’re fighting the Icon of Sin)

[swift cipher]

Hey man not to be a dihh but im pretty sure I know how to play if I have the arcade slayer

I feel like you're trying to call me a noob

[soft gull]

I play eternal without using equipment

ctrl key collects dust

[fringe torrent]

Nobody was calling you a noob, just offering their own insight on the gameplay

[swift cipher]

I know it just felt condescending

Sorry

[austere bronze]

whyy😭

[swift cipher]

Ur tweaking

[storm eagle]

M1 just likes to help. Sometimes when people are knowledgeable and speak plainly online it can come across different than what they actually mean. There's a lot of different folks here and the majority are good at one Doom game or another. With Eternal especially, everyone has different strengths. Whether it's arcade mode, svs, speed running, grounded or air movement preferences. It's a good place to exchange ideas and tips 🙂

[viscid marten]

I help too(with 2016 at least)!

[scenic axle]

how do you get that skin

[fringe torrent]

Beat Cultist Base on Nightmare in Horde Mode

[scenic axle]

isn't that like the first horde mode level

[fringe torrent]

Ye

[scenic axle]

ah ok

I never use it but turret is kinda really good

baron shredder

its also quite a sniper

I should use that for range instead of just pb ballista cause it's kinda bad

actually what's the best ranged combo @austere bronze

I should stop using pb ballista so much cause I accidentally do it in close range reflexively at times and that's not epic

[real holly]

my favorite skin is fallen angel

[scenic axle]

that ones pretty cool

I love my modded skin

I need to use ballista boosting more I never use it and it's such a good mobility tool

[austere bronze]

for super long range there isn't really anything super good, your best bet is mobile turret

[scenic axle]

okay cool thanks

imma use that since I don't use shield anyway

[austere bronze]

but you can use other stuff if it isn't super far

like pb->sticky->ballista is neat

[scenic axle]

oh that sounds cool

i'll try that next time i play

[austere bronze]

yess

i like tjat combo for whiplashes/revs/fast possessed demons too

[scenic axle]

Honestly I think I hate possessed carcasses the most

I'll forget about them cause they aren't threatening from range and then when I get close to it my health just dissapears

[austere bronze]

possessed armored barons

[scenic axle]

ok fair

[austere bronze]

true

but i don't think getting too close to them is a big issue

[scenic axle]

I think if im really paying attention then they aren't an issue, it's just when im not that things like that will get me

[austere bronze]

for sure, it's absolutely goated

i feel super frail if i ever run out of ballista ammo😭

i get scared of everything

[scenic axle]

the demons are spooky

I need my broken mobility tools

[austere bronze]

true!

i need to focus more on using momentum well

and doing more single dashing

[proven granite]

They spin around really fast

[scenic axle]

Nah they hit little teleports

[simple holly]

Does anybody know where I could find a repository for DOOM Eternal SFX?

[swift cipher]

One is by collecting all the weapons in horde mode on nightmare

And the other is by beating the first mission on nightmare in horde mode

[scenic axle]

I've only played horde mode once lol

I should do it again sometime to see how it is

[real holly]

if you want to torture yourself, the last holt arenas are where its at

at the end of horde mode

[scenic axle]

I remember that being kinda crazy

I was just goofing around when I did it though so I don't really remember the difficulty and im much better now

I feel like I've gotten better by not playing and idk why

I got halfway through hells abyss without dying after playing for like 5 hours in the last 2 months

[sinful jungle]

Need another for trophy grind on battlemode

[subtle agate]

Me too, I play on PS5, you can play later ?

[sinful jungle]

Night time here but ill make sure to catch you another time im on

[subtle agate]

Okay, no problem, I've accepted you on PSN. Let me know when you can play.

[mighty pendant]

do you actually move faster in the end if you spam dash or not?

[elder raft]

rather than just running? yeah

[stone sentinel]

Hello! I'm a huge fan of Doom games, and I also participate in discussion chats. I would like to ask, is Hell qualitatively superior to Urdak? If Urdak is 6D, then is Hell logically 7D? And if Doom Slayer surpasses Hell, then is he 8D? I would really like to know, thank you!

[proven granite]

Dimension is just a term that is loosely thrown around in the DOOM games, it means basically nothing. Everything is still in the third dimension

[ebon matrix]

The only dimensions really used are parallel dimensions to earth and only fictional so it doesn't really makes sense

[stone sentinel]

Thanks

[proven granite]

They also say realm a lot, but realm in terms of DOOM has like 3 different definitions

[ebon matrix]

Aren't realms the place you travel to in quake

[fringe torrent]

Realm is a very widespread term

You do travel through realms in Quake

[proven granite]

Through the slipgates

[ebon matrix]

That use Mario 64 sfx

[regal island]

Is there some way to play Doom Eternal in VR

[brazen echo]

are there any decent eternal mp servers around? want to grind out the MP achievements. Tried spicy demons but they're pretty queit these days

[patent stream]

Pretty sure that’s like the only one

Aside from asking in here

[scenic axle]

Single dashing is slightly better if you can, only double dash if you really need to

[patent stream]

Single for positioning
2 for I MUST FLEE

[austere bronze]

yea single dashing for speed doesn't matter a ton

it's about 8,8% faster than spamming if you're frame perfect

the biggest positive is that you'll always have a dash in reserve, which is super good

i have the bad habit of just jumping instead of single dashing tho (or even dashing in general)😭 😭

gotta fix that

[half hollow]

2016 mindset

[austere bronze]

think i have a totalt of about 15 min on that game

like i usually only start single dashing if i'm on the ground for an extended amount of time, or go in with the mindset to play grounded

[hollow epoch]

hello !

[mint umbra]

Am I allowed to post vids on this channle

[astral hamlet]

https://discord.com/channels/162891400684371968/832527578891944006 is this way

[wispy topaz]

I need ppl to help me with the online trophies im on playstation

[visual seal]

who all has beat ultra nightmare in here?

[austere bronze]

i haven't done main campaign UN and such, but i've done other UN runs

why are you wondering?

[real holly]

main campaign and dlc

[rapid holly]

the goat

[real holly]

holy shit Hell Knight from the hit game

Mighty Doom

[austere bronze]

what's a hell knight

[real holly]

i think they are circular and have one eyeball and fly

[austere bronze]

cool

[rapid holly]

Yes

[scenic axle]

I’ve done UN without a monitor

[austere bronze]

what😭

[real holly]

I've done UN in my dreams

[hollow adder]

hi chat, if i quit the game during a mission, do i start off from the last checkpoint?

[austere bronze]

yes

unless you're doing ultra nightmare

[real holly]

"unless"? Silly M1 everyone plays only on UN and beats it first try bc the game is so easy

[rapid holly]

It's not the same in Ultra Nightmare, otherwise why would the checkpoint symbol appear?

If there's a checkpoint, in Ultra Nightmare mode, it leaves you at the last point, but if you lose, you have to start from the beginning.

In summary, yes, in Ultra Nightmare, the last checkpoint is saved.

[austere bronze]

checkpoints exists if you crash

[rapid holly]

A eso me refiero

[austere bronze]

if you exit the level normally, you will first get a warning that the save will be deleted, and if you still continue it will (as the warning said) be deleted

[rapid holly]

That's what I mean*

[rapid holly]

Sorry, I speak Spanish, I just forgot to add the translation.

[austere bronze]

ye it's fine

[austere bronze]

so true man

i remember beating eternal on ultra nightmare first try

(definitely did not struggle with i'm too young to die)

[real holly]

quickswapping? Whats that

[rapid holly]

I was literally bad at Doom 2016, but when I discovered the combos it was literally easy mode.

[scenic axle]

also used my nose instead of my hand on my mouse

light work

[azure oriole]

Doom Eternal just downloaded

[hoary crest]

gl hope you have fun!

[real holly]

you exhaled from ur nostrils on individual keys instead of pressing them with ur nose

[scenic axle]

exactly

[half orchid]

Currently having an unplayable bug with Doom Eternal

for whatever reason it is launching the game and the launcher at the same time

and messing up the visuals

[cunning blaze]

Hey guys

[normal island]

Hello 👋🏻

[hoary crest]

hii

[cunning blaze]

@normal island @hoary crest Sorry I missed yalls text

[hoary crest]

all good buddy

[cunning blaze]

Thank you

[hoary crest]

did you end up killing that baron of hell?

[cunning blaze]

Yeah, but then I got immediately killed afterwards and had to restart

I hung up the game so now I'm hitting the bunks

[storm eagle]

general chat is back on

[viscid marten]

Why was it off?

[jolly kernel]

what the fuck
so I was testing a one cycle strat against a Marauder and he used his shield and spawned a dog due to... literally nothing?

[austere bronze]

do you have a recording?

[viscid marten]

He spawned a what

[austere bronze]

dog?

[viscid marten]

they can do that?

[austere bronze]

yeah

[viscid marten]

hm

[austere bronze]

those orange ethereal wolves/dogs

[viscid marten]

I don’t play eternal

[jolly kernel]

no

[viscid marten]

yet

[austere bronze]

should try it :D

[austere bronze]

yee

[viscid marten]

After I do 2016 on UV

[jolly kernel]

he was just running around randomly then used his shield literally out of nowhere

[rapid holly]

What bad luck!

[austere bronze]

no enemy hit him or anything?

[jolly kernel]

yes

[hexed gate]

how much better is doom the darkages compared to doom eternal

[austere bronze]

if not, my best guess is that he had animations queued which took priority over the dog spawning, causing it to be delayed

[viscid marten]

This is unrelated

But what’s your opinion

[austere bronze]

if you like it more or less depends on what you like

[viscid marten]

On the miraculous movie

[jolly kernel]

I liked it

[austere bronze]

but if he was just running normally, idk

[hexed gate]

i don't know how or what its like, but is the melee useful in darkages?

[rapid holly]

Efectivamente depende de que tanto te guste, o lo divertido que te parece

[rapid holly]

It really depends on how much you like it.*

[austere bronze]

melee is useful in eternal too :D
but yes, the melees are very useful in dark ages

[rapid holly]

My Spanish slipped out lol

[austere bronze]

xd

[hexed gate]

in eternal the melee does barely any damage

[austere bronze]

blood punch:

[rapid holly]

I forgot to add the translator

[austere bronze]

blood punch is underrated imo

and underutilized

[hexed gate]

thats an ability not a standard attack

[austere bronze]

it's melee, no?

it's literally just the normal punch... but strong

[hexed gate]

it is but its a ability which is hard to obtain

[austere bronze]

it isn't

you can chain 4+ blood punches in a row

[rapid holly]

What a heated conversation

[hexed gate]

how is it not a ability

[austere bronze]

didn't say it's not an ability

but it's still a melee, which isn't hard to obtain

you literally get an entire charge for every heavy glory kill, and with decent restacking it passively regenerates too

[hexed gate]

do you have darkages installed

[austere bronze]

so if you have tons of armor/health on the ground, you can chain multiple blood punches

[austere bronze]

yes i do

[hexed gate]

i am not that far in the game

[hexed gate]

hows the melee compared to eternal

[austere bronze]

much more principal

[rapid holly]

What an interesting conversation I had the pleasure of witnessing!

[bronze saddle]

Is there a specific event to get doom 64 skin

[candid dawn]

I believe it appears in the fall mega event

[bronze saddle]

Thanks

[real holly]

i still find it funny that nearly all water in the main campaign outside of some dlc and the purple water in urdak is irradiated

[cunning blaze]

Bro I hate those really big guys with the toxic guns I swear 🤬

[austere bronze]

cyber mancubi?

why?

[cunning blaze]

Cause most of the time I don't have my blood punch ready and when that happens I have to go find a weaker demons to kill and the time that happens they are just spraying me from behind with the acid

[austere bronze]

you can shoot them normally

[cunning blaze]

I know but I feel like it just barely doesn't do a lot of damage like I need it too

[bronze saddle]

Rocket launcher with the triple burst mod is really good for destroying the armor

[rapid holly]

Bro The Rocket Launcher Whith the Triple Burst Mode It's one of the best

[golden seal]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nYo9yPy3qjQqjQ

[austere bronze]

blood punch normally deals 1k damage, to cyber mancs it deals 4k and they have 6k hp

so it definitely does a lot, but you can shoot it normally too

[cunning blaze]

Oh

[real holly]

once you get double blood punch they really get trivialized alongside doom hunters (which are already trivialized after the first boss if u know what ur doing)

i wish there were more enemies like the dread knight, imagine if the baron was as aggressive as the dread knight wait that's the possesed baron nvm

thing about possesed demons is sometimes they just have too much health it kind of drags fights a bit

[cunning blaze]

The Chaingun with the machine gun mod on it is op

[austere bronze]

not like you need the bp to deal with cyber mancs quickly, you can do pb->rocket->SLOB->ssg for a kill

that requires a rocket punch cancel tho

doom hunters are peak

[real holly]

doom hunters peak at the boss fight

after that i wish they could withstand more punishment

like doom hunters transform from my 3rd-4th favorite Doom boss ever to "super heavy that's the easiest and quickest to kill"

top 5 doom bosses now that i mentioned that

1. Dark Ages final boss
2. Gladiator
3. Doom Hunter(s)
4. Enhanced Ahzrak
5. Icon of Sin

[astral hamlet]

gladiator 🤮

[real holly]

-Dark Ages fan

[astral hamlet]

also I'm interested why you put ahzrak & the witch over enhanced ahzrak

[real holly]

the thing about the gladiator is u have to be good at the game to do it optimally

[astral hamlet]

well at the same time, he can also just unilaterally choose to ignore a ballista headshot right after his green eye flash just because he feels like it

[real holly]

one is at the end of an actual level, the other is at the end of a overly long setpiece that while fun, feels like a slog on replays

[astral hamlet]

well this is about the boss fights themselves, yeah?

[real holly]

the aggadon hunter attacks with an unparryable attack because he feels like it but ig its ok if its done in dark ages

[astral hamlet]

an unparryable which is telegraphed to hell and back lol

[real holly]

not exactly, I judge bosses based on everything that comes before them and stuff

[astral hamlet]

the gladiator ignoring his falter window is like enhanced ahzrak having a yellow falter circle above his head and still attacking you mid-swing

[real holly]

the main issue with enchanced Ahzrak is I can't replay the fight without doing the Atlan segment

[real holly]

the tutorial tells u to use the ssg

the ssg doesn't fail if you dodge correctly

[astral hamlet]

which is also inconsistent, because of pellet spread

[real holly]

how in the fuck do you miss pellets against the giant gladiator close range with the ssg

[astral hamlet]

close range?

[real holly]

yeah u keep a mid to close range against the gladiator

[astral hamlet]

not in his second phase, are you crazy?

[real holly]

there u just stay back, dodge and shot whatever you want

[astral hamlet]

yes, the second phase is when he turns into a piece of shit

[real holly]

skill issue ngl

I won't deny theres ocasional jank doe

[astral hamlet]

yes, him ignoring my precision bolt headshot a millisecond after his green eye flash is a skill issue, correct
also him failing to GK in my UN run despite his health bar being at zero and him flashing blue is also a skill issue

[real holly]

im seeing a pattern between both Eternal and TDA fans clashing, they both go "oh this thing is bullshit" to the other game and pretend like they both don't have heaps of bullshit

both games have heaps of nonsense

the only difference is TDA is easier to learn while still being fun

[astral hamlet]

I'm not speaking on other forms of nonsense
but name me a TDA boss that straight up ignores player actions like the gladiator

(it doesn't exist)

[real holly]

the weird ass parry window with Ahzraks ground slam attack what the hell is that im parrying why does it break my shield

[astral hamlet]

that's just timing, though?

what's so weird about it
probably one of his easier moves tbh

[real holly]

thing is the gladiator ignores other weapon shots but not the ssg

[real holly]

"probably one of his easier moves tbh" Dark ages fans and Eternal fans will do anything to go "oh your bad" to the other lol

[astral hamlet]

the irony is not lost on me here

[real holly]

exactly

:3

[astral hamlet]

I'm talking bugginess, and you give me a completely fair attack that's difficult to parry in your opinion

like what are we doing here lol

[real holly]

idk i never had this problem ur having

both of the things u mentioned never happened to me

[austere bronze]

7,5k hp😭

archviles have 6k

[real holly]

with archvilles i simply refuse to ice bomb and double lob for an actual semblance of a fight

[austere bronze]

yes bp deals 2,5k or 4k to their shield (more often 2,5k if you don't know how to hit them) but they also have a shield

[real holly]

shoot the sled :3

[austere bronze]

so lock-on burst doesn't do anything, and ballista doesn't do anything either (if you hit its shield with the shot)

or technically it deals its splash damage still... but that's 60

[real holly]

i just get somewhat close to the sled and ssg it

[austere bronze]

i've started ice bombing archviles more lately ngl😭

[real holly]

im refusing to use lob or chaingun shield for a challenge

no lob just exposes how annoying whiplashes can be

[astral hamlet]

the gk bug is incredibly common, dunno how you haven't experienced it
it even popped up on the UN 100% world record speedrun lol

[real holly]

ig ur making sense but everytime i see TDA vs Eternal talk i just cringe, both sides suck (I really shouldn't have said skill issue im adding to the cringe)

[austere bronze]

been running the no supers/hammer/shield/lock-on/dblade/microwave beam for my UN runs recently

peak brainrot

[real holly]

i never use the hammer

[astral hamlet]

half of my time in the TDA chat is me saying what all the game could do better lmao

[real holly]

dblade is too rad for me to let it go

[austere bronze]

yea, i'm only doing it for my UN runs

[real holly]

microwave beam i just like using to stun possesed demons

[austere bronze]

also killing them

[real holly]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-maul-random-serv-the-bird-gif-18668171

randomizer "hoards" when i simply charge a d blade:

[astral hamlet]

*hordes 🤓

[austere bronze]

10k dps incoming

except if there's a single marauder...

[real holly]

moderators, stun them with the sentinel Hammer and ssg+ballista quickswap them

[real holly]

"YOU SHALL NOT PASS"

[astral hamlet]

"this is menu d blade!"
"M1, this is the 7th week in a row you've shown menu d blade in class"

[austere bronze]

what😭 i don't think i mention it a lot😭

[real holly]

marauders aura farming with how they just desintegrate the d blade like its nothing

[austere bronze]

i didn't now either!

[astral hamlet]

I kid

[real holly]

someday I'll beat Final Sin without using the bfg or crucible once

[austere bronze]

marauders think they cool till they encounter the weirdly aimed lock-on rocket

[real holly]

true

[real holly]

it's just so tempting there's so many demons and there's just bfg ammo everywhere on some "I don't need it"

[austere bronze]

that's why you unbind supers and hammer

removes the temptation

[astral hamlet]

I'll never try it
just because I can't be bothered to fight the icon without using the bfg, because I hate the boss

[real holly]

not to mention killing the Icon without bfg sounds super slow

[real holly]

im starting to wonder if ur not too fond of Eternal in the first place

[austere bronze]

we need a final sin cbt level...

[astral hamlet]

I love the game
hate most of the bosses

[austere bronze]

it's the most demon packed level in the base game, yet no cbt level for it!!

[astral hamlet]

the doom hunters are chill though

[austere bronze]

thr arenas would be peak for it

[real holly]

hmmm, just fill it with archvilles

and some cursed Prowlers, actually just make it "Final Curse" and all enemies are Cursed Prowlers

[austere bronze]

don't let this man near modding tools😭

[astral hamlet]

cursed tyrants

[real holly]

the Icon of Curses and all damage they deal will Curse you

[austere bronze]

infinitely respawning cursed prowlers are the worst

[astral hamlet]

what kind of mod has infinitely respawning cursed prowlers 😭

[real holly]

what kind of sadistic animal would do that

[austere bronze]

in cbt atlantica, where there normally is 2 marauders, there are 2 possessed marauders with 2 blood maykrs, 1 cursed prowler, couple of hell knights, 2 cyber mancs, and a couple of pinkies (all infinitely respawning)

and no maykr drones

[astral hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/hoblos-uhhh-uhhh-brother-brother-uhh-gif-1627688090339014668

and this is why I don't play unbalanced levels

[austere bronze]

probably the worst arena in the level

generally it's absolute peak

[astral hamlet]

shit encounter design masquerading as high skill fights

[austere bronze]

generally definitely not, but there is some bullshittery in most levels

[astral hamlet]

I just watch people do these unbalanced master levels and with the exception of sylar and maybe a couple others, it's just meathook swapping to double d blade spam lmao

and I can't be mad, because that's also probably the most efficient way to handle them, but still

although I've never watched much footage of you playing tbf

[austere bronze]

currently doing all the CBT levels on UN wothout supers/hammer/shield/dblade/lock-on or microwave beam

[astral hamlet]

💀

https://tenor.com/view/mjpersonal-gif-12910757661639197726

you rn

[austere bronze]

self promooooohttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL710X16_Ucpq62OkJobR27KR8DuOulbAa&si=36EfoAy0qNWGmt71

cultist stronghold was unfortunately only with no supers/hammer/shield

that level is easily the hardest ever to UN tho

i don't think my gameplay looks particularly excitinh however

[half hollow]

so i just found out that you can grapple onto the lost souls that pain elementals throw at you

not sure how useful that is but it is definitely information

[hoary crest]

i never knew that. thanks. granted ive never played eternal alot just the mp so i dont really know much about eternal lmaoo

[austere bronze]

most of the time it kinda messes you up😭

you want to meathook something else, but catch a lost soul, and it kinda flings you

there's even a mod to remove their meathook point

[hoary crest]

lol

[half hollow]

i might need to get that so it doesnt mess me up randomly

this is the first time its happened

[scenic axle]

I normally pb ballista ssg them, I've found its much more efficient

don't wanna use all my rockets on whiplashes

[scenic axle]

Where can I find that level?

[austere bronze]

on nexus mods

there is however no balanced version and it's very long

overall very good level imo

some difficulty spikes though, like the second part of the slayer gate which is one of, if not the most, cancerous arenas i've ever played

[austere bronze]

you can do a normal punch to cancel the last rocket

[scenic axle]

I'm lazy so im not gonna deal with switching back to nexus LOL

time to go find other cancerous levels to play

[austere bronze]

it's minimal effort!

just download it, run the mod injector, and press play without mods

[austere bronze]

(assuming you didn't delete the mod injector for whatever reason)

[scenic axle]

oh wait I forgot its that easy

[austere bronze]

xd

[austere bronze]

one of favorite modded levels of all time

[scenic axle]

This is gonna be painful

I'll probably only do a portion of it today

if I can even beat it 😭

[austere bronze]

you're given the hammer early in tho :D

[scenic axle]

Yeah I don't use hammer or shield though

[austere bronze]

but yea, arguably the hardest level ever

[scenic axle]

I just make myself worse at the game when I do

time to put myself through pain 🔥

[austere bronze]

have fun!!

oh and btw... slayer gate is not optional

[scenic axle]

Oh you gotta do slayer gates

[austere bronze]

genuinely though, i would kinda recommend you to killai your way through the second part of it

[scenic axle]

is it that bad

[austere bronze]

super heavy fog, rain, literally every demon is spectre variant (including archviles, marauders, samur maykr) and lots of screechers

[scenic axle]

there's a samur???

and spectre marauders

im so cooked

[austere bronze]

2 marauders at the end

fortunately tho there's only a couple of infinitely respawning demons...

https://youtu.be/EsOPUdSP9tE?si=zJDxgLevQl2bpIUP&t=4428

that is it

if you learn the spawns and pb+ballista and ssg tho, it becomes a lot easier

but like, the fog sections is still just so bad and over 10 min long

[scenic axle]

It's joever

[scenic axle]

what do you play in minecraft? I used to sweat that game

[austere bronze]

oo ahah peak

right now i just kinda play some servers with friends here and there

used to build a decent bit in creative

oh and hypixel skyblock, still log in once every blue moon to collect minions

[scenic axle]

nice, I play every once in a while with friends

[austere bronze]

nicee

[scenic axle]

the level doesn't wanna load 😭

what did I break

[austere bronze]

did you place the overrides file into the normal game folder?

[scenic axle]

yeah the DOOM eternal folder

wait im stupid

[austere bronze]

do you have any other level mods installed?

[scenic axle]

it needs to be extracted doesn't it

no other levels, now we try again

ok the injector actually did something this time so I think it worked

[golden seal]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nYo9yPy3qjQqjQ

funny shit

[scenic axle]

It's still not working what did I do 💀

I'll try running it without the new launcher mods

[austere bronze]

wait is it the injector that isn't working, or is it the mod?

[scenic axle]

the injector appears to work, when I start a new save it's just stock on 0%

ok if I do no new launcher mods it works

I can't do my goofy weapon fov now but this works

wait no i can this is epic

[austere bronze]

peak!

[scenic axle]

am I stupid

where do I go after this first arena

wait I can just watch your video why am I asking this 😭

oh my game bugged that explains it

[rapid holly]

Hey guys

Can you give me advice for Eternal?

I just started it now

[real holly]

don't forget to use the flames to get armor back

[rapid holly]

The bad thing is that I play on Switch and sometimes the weapon switching doesn't work, unfortunately.

[real holly]

stack demons, set them on fire, kill them and get alot and i mean alot of your armor back

[rapid holly]

Obviously, it's one of the most important pillars of Eternal

I always notice that

[real holly]

tbf i didn't know how much you knew of the game so i went for the most fundamental things

[rapid holly]

Ok

I'm going to watch YouTube videos

To improve

The disadvantage of the Switch is that I don't have full control of the Joy-Con.

I'm going to keep moving.

[scenic axle]

This third arena is diabolical

I'm not built for this

[austere bronze]

the one after all the flying shit?

[austere bronze]

i don't think there are any good tutorial vids on it tbh

been seriously considering making one myself tho

[rapid holly]

That would be great!

[austere bronze]

i can send you some general gameplay tips if you want me to tho

[real holly]

M1 you have yet to beat Dark lord on any difficulty above hurt me plenty LOCK IN

[rapid holly]

Si Porfavor

[rapid holly]

Yes please*

Anyway, if I'm busy I can read it later

[austere bronze]

use your movement tools! you should always be dashing, even if it's without a clear purpose, this will allow you to dodge more attacks and naturally move around in the arena. you should however do something called single dashing, which is when you only use the first dash. this is so you can save the second dash for when you really need it (e.g. to get somewhere, get away, redirect momentum).
you also can't use the meathook too much. it's super good to restack with if you have the mastery. but its main function is getting into the air, this is done by jumping to detach from the meathook, and after that you will always have exactly one more jump to spend freely. you can combine this with the restacking abilities of it: meathook a demon->jump to detach->shoot (you have to shoot after jumping). you can also use it to get to a demon, but that's more auxiliary
also make sure to use the environmental movement options (monkey bars and jump pads), as well as your double jumps.

be in control! not being in control comes from a few things: tunnel visioning, bad routing, lack of awareness.
tunnel visioning is when you focus on a single enemy/a group of enemies so much that you take unnecessary damage or put yourself in a bad situation. you want to cycle between demons in a sense, never staying around one for long, it's okay to not fully kill a demon! shoot one for a bit, then move on and restack, and go to the next demon. also many stay in one area while technically moving, but staying in a very limited space is also tunnel visioning.
when you route your movement paths, you want to make sure you don't go into tight areas, places where you can get surrounded or move too straight/back and forward.
you also want to be aware of the battle, see what's around you and locate the highest threats, then put the most focus on killing them (without tunnel visioning!)

[rapid holly]

No Problem

[real holly]

ok

[austere bronze]

use all your tools. you want to use your entire/close to your entire arsenal to kill enemies, almost everything has a unique utility! and make sure to constantly flame belch, literally as soon as it's off cooldown, even if you just hit one enemy. ice grenades you don't have to spam, but don't hold on too long, same for frag grenades.

keep your ammo high. you want to spend ammo roughly uniformly, and chainsaw when you're at about half ammo for all ammo types.

[rapid holly]

Ready

I'll read it later

[hoary crest]

thanks m1

[real holly]

no thanks m1 your advice SUCKS!!!

i shall do the opposite of what you suggest

[hoary crest]

lol

[austere bronze]

no worries!

[austere bronze]

good luck ;P

[scenic axle]

Yeah, beat it now though. I don’t understand how you can UN this

[austere bronze]

ya i mean probably good reason as to why i'm the only one who has even tried afaik lol

btw, did you notice that maykr drones drop less health and blood maykrs drop 120 or something?

[hoary crest]

oh if anyone on xbox would like to boost the eternal mp achievements. lmk plz

[scenic axle]

I haven’t noticed any differences but I haven’t really been paying attention

I also stopped so I’m not too far in yet

[austere bronze]

fair

[frank ginkgo]

Guys I play on PlayStation can someone give me tips about what weapon combos I should use

[sinful jungle]

Ballista & Supershotgun

[frank ginkgo]

Thx

[sinful jungle]

No problem

I really like the regular shotgun with auto mod alot too

[scenic axle]

What level is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEbpyxfPlmE

[austere bronze]

unbalanced tormented earth

[tawdry bramble]

playing eternal for the first time after the dark ages is tough damn

no shield to rely on

just straight up dodging everything

[storm eagle]

There is a shield to rely on, although I don't recommend it to improve your gameplay.

People use the one in Eternal too much like a crutch and it shows

[dense magnet]

Hi

[light cipher]

Is it possible to bring the melee weapon from ancient gods, into the main campaign?

[surreal hamlet]

I'm new here, any tips of how to fking beat marouder??

[half hollow]

shoot him

[elder raft]

wait for him to blink green and shoot him then

[tawdry bramble]

nah alright this game's movement is leagues better than doom the dark ages omg just so good

[rapid holly]

You are absolutely right.

The Eternal Movement is INSANE

[tawdry bramble]

like i did the segment with the second priest where there are two bosses and seeing what i can do now and realising there's so much more room for improvement is crazy

the meat hook is just so good

[elder raft]

well eternal was made to be a movement shooter. TDA not so much (allthough it still has movement)

[tawdry bramble]

strafing and jumping really high with it is so fun

[rapid holly]

You're absolutely right.

[rapid holly]

It's the most damn fun thing in Eternal

[rapid holly]

TRUE

[tawdry bramble]

im gonna miss this movement when i finish all this game has to offer

[rapid holly]

True, the most frantic thing about Eternal is Horde Mode

[tawdry bramble]

then again no one's forcing me to move on from this game right

[rapid holly]

It's the most damn fun thing on this planet.

[rapid holly]

Obvious

[tawdry bramble]

the only somewhat similar game i can think of with this kinda movement is titanfall 2

[rapid holly]

TRUE

You are absolutely right.

[tawdry bramble]

holy fucking shit and they gave me a ballista that gives me a boost to the opposite direction

we eating good

[rapid holly]

Indeed

ABSOLUTE DOOM

[elder raft]

ballista boosting sure is fun

[rapid holly]

True

[tawdry bramble]

like damn i remember playing this game back in 2020 when it just released and it didnt seem to interest me much but i regret not playing it sooner now

[elder raft]

i'd say the most fun and funniest movement tech is meathook launching. it requires a computer and monitor with more frames but when you got that, you can use the weapon wheel while hooking to go flying

and i mean FLYING

[rapid holly]

In my opinion, the most damn good thing about Eternal, and the thing that literally turns your dopamine on to the max, is the super shotgun plus the grappling hook.

IT'S THE BEST OF ETERNAL

IT'S THE BEST DAMN THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO DOOM

Obviously below the cacodemon

Cacodemon the Goat

[tawdry bramble]

yeah bruh feels like it's actually the peak of movement

[rapid holly]

Indeed

[tawdry bramble]

dont even know how to say this but it like activates all the dopamine receptors in your brain like nothing else

[rapid holly]

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT

[tawdry bramble]

so much so that after a good fight you gotta say stuff like 'man this game is so good'

[rapid holly]

You say, "THIS IS THE BEST DAMN GAME EVER"

[tawdry bramble]

exactly

[elder raft]

personally i prefer titanfall 2's movement when it comes to movement fps games but doom eternal is a good second

[tawdry bramble]

yeah i love titanfall 2 too

[rapid holly]

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU

[austere bronze]

you don’t need a pc or high frames

[tawdry bramble]

sad that we aint getting a titanfall 3 though

[rapid holly]

They're like Valve, they can't count to 3

[tawdry bramble]

yeahhh they did apex instead sadly

[elder raft]

afaik the glitch is done by acquiring more frames through the weapon wheel which gives you more frames while hooking which increases your speed resulting in you going flying. can that be done with 60 as well?

[austere bronze]

there are couple things to make it easier, an important thing is that if you stay quite a bit away, he’ll throw his axe and then always go in for a green flash attack

[austere bronze]

it can be done on any framerate (more fps is more speed tho), and for normal combat, the weapon wheel gives way too much speed

[rapid holly]

Well, what do you expect? Battle royale games were all the rage, and they wanted to make money anyway.

Nothing to be done

That's called GREED

[austere bronze]

Are you on pc?

[tawdry bramble]

yeah

i could play ultrakill

[austere bronze]

then there exists mods which can get extremely hard

[rapid holly]

ULTRAKILL MENTIONED!!!

[austere bronze]

Like, the easiest fights being harder than the hardest fight of any normal master level

and the skill ceiling for eternal is insane, with multiple playsyles to experiment with too

[elder raft]

i see. so more frames just makes it better. i have a 240 fps monitor and have done it before. skipped half of the doom hunter base with it

[austere bronze]

Better depends on what you want to do

if you’re tying to speedrun, more fps is better (up to a certain point where you detach too early), but for combat you don’t need tons of speed

[elder raft]

i'm talking about it as a speedrun strat. speedrun tech. in combat it's better to just meathook normally

[austere bronze]

oh yeah if you’re trying to speedrun more frames is better up to like 300 something, and you ususally wanna use the weapon wheel

yeethooks without the weapon wheel (slinh hooks or wehatever you wanna call it) is still really good for normal combat tho

[elder raft]

they're good yeah. the speed you get from yeethooks tho is insane. punch boosting too. tried that out once. went flying

4 movement techs i know and like to do. yeethook (i like that name), punch boosting, ballista boosting and bunny hopping

[austere bronze]

punch boosting is super cool, but i almost never use it

the only real setup you consistently get in combat is after a front caco GK, and trying to set it up with geo is ususally quite hard

wall dash would be cool to be able to do consistently

shield dashing even cooler, that’s actually goated if you get good at it

it’s more speed than a ballista boost and doesn’t cost anything

[elder raft]

it's not practical. has to be set up

[scenic axle]

nah yeethooking is my goat

It's super boring but yeethooking and dblade spammning is probably the optimal way to play for damage and safety if it's a big enough arena

[austere bronze]

until you run out of ammo after 2 dblades

[scenic axle]

you right

It's so boring to do that though

[real holly]

replayed reclaimed earth without the hammer/superweapons and i remembered why it comes close when played like this to tag 1/main campaign levels

the second part of the escalation encounter had me running for my life lol, but other than that didn't die once

archvilles are so much more entertaining to fight when u don't ice bomb+double lob them truly

while im not going to apologize to the marauder for the bugginess of his shield being activated by enemy fire I will say i spent alot of time recently fighting him without sticking to the correct distance so he baits the strike

cursed prowlers can go kill themselves worst enemy in the game but truthfully if you just pause the combat and hunt him down first its fine if super boring

[scenic axle]

Yeah whenever one spawns go kill it immediately

I should replay tag 1 and 2

[rancid bone]

hi

best keybinds for doom eternal?

[scenic axle]

Keys close to wasd so you don’t have to move your fingers far

I wouldn’t move my fingers from w or s though

[viscid marten]

This guy…

https://tenor.com/view/boi-spongebob-rage-gif-1079789998347984343

fuck 67

fuck YOU

[scenic axle]

Hey bro

On a scale of 1-100 what would you rate doom eternal

[viscid marten]

I’m gonna say…

[viscid marten]

54. It’s a good game, but overall gets glazed way too much

[scenic axle]

I'd say it's a 67

wait nah what is that rating

a good game is a 5.4/10?

[viscid marten]

https://tenor.com/view/uzi-murder-drones-uzi-md-murder-drones-uzi-murder-drones-uzi-gif-16362745098671942494

[fringe torrent]

54 kinda crazy

[scenic axle]

I said (10-4), (15-8)

[scenic axle]

Why do you think that?

Brainrot aside im actually interested lol

[viscid marten]

I’m only saying this cuz I just saw gameplay, I haven’t played myself yet because I’m trying to do some 2016 stuff

[scenic axle]

oh you gotta play it before you rate it

[viscid marten]

But people say it gets glazed way too much

[viscid marten]

Yeah ik

[scenic axle]

I think it's really good, the overglazing is when people act like its a perfect game

it still does have some issues, mostly buggy enemies

[viscid marten]

Why is the melee so shit?

[scenic axle]

to encourage you to use your arsenal and not just rely on that

it seems weird at first but overall it's a good design choice

[viscid marten]

2016 melee isn’t that bad. I can kill an imp in two hits in 2016, but for eternal I saw and it look unbearable

[viscid marten]

Ofc

[scenic axle]

it does 1 hp LOL

so it does nothing

[viscid marten]

ik😭

[scenic axle]

but in return you get blood punch

that does 1k damage and its splash

[viscid marten]

Dayum

[scenic axle]

I love how much content there is outside of just the main campaign

so much replayability, great modding tools, and a ridiculously high skill ceiling

[viscid marten]

I can’t wait for the time I get my hands on it

[scenic axle]

hopefully it'll go on sale soon

[austere bronze]

loads of reasons

[simple holly]

Playing the Blood Swamps level for the first time. I find it rather depressing that the sentinel ghosts seemingly have no idea about the betrayal of the maykrs.

[scenic axle]

I've noticed blood makyrs drop some shield, im a bit over halfway and this level sucks, i love it

[austere bronze]

don't think armor drops are changed

good luck with the rest of the playtrhough!

[tawdry bramble]

nah this game is like the best thing that happened to me this year

the movement is fucking insane i love it so much bro im starting to get the hang of it and it's just so good

[fringe torrent]

Easy to say when the year has only lasted four weeks 💔

[tawdry bramble]

still like i guess i could say the previous year is beat by this game alone

[cunning blaze]

Bro they evicted me from my fortress in space, and now I'm in a knockoff Helacarrier

For the Ancient Gods DLC Part One!

[austere bronze]

been doing no dblade gameplay recently, which made me find out how goated this combo is for dealing with archviles lmao
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188393862968922132/1465792759213326601/Doom_Eternal_2026.01.27_-_20.35.07.09.mp4?ex=697a6562&is=697913e2&hm=6a4fd9140ef8b02300e72fe2b5208057e3b6f0abfcfebd608bf6b99a3ceae250&

[scenic axle]

how do you fast swap between the launcher and ballista?

[austere bronze]

are you familiar with mod swap cancels?

[scenic axle]

I remember you told me about them once but I forgot lol

I gotta learn tech

[austere bronze]

pressing the mod swap bind and immediately the bind for another weapon will allow you to cancel some animations (first the mod swap cancels it, and then you cancel the mod swap by swapping away, hence the name)

but, this also does some other things

what's important for fast swaps between rocket and ballista is that a mod swap cancel transfers the bring-up speed from the first weapon to the second

this somewhat emulates the effect of FSE, where FSE gives a fast bring-up and allows you to swap away at any time, but with BATS (what i'm doing in the video, stands for bring-up animation transfer switching) it won't cancel the entire rocket/ballista/whatever fire animation

so if you mod swap cancel from a fast bring-up weapon into a slow one, it'll get the fast bring-up, and if you continue to mod swap cancel with each swap, you'll continue transferring the fast brong-up

not sure if that made any sense, i can try to elaborate on any part if it didn't

[austere bronze]

(in this video i actually initiated the BATS combo with the arbalest via punch BATS, which also allows you to fire a base ballista shot immediately after the arbalest)

[scenic axle]

Ok interesting

I need to learn that it’s cool

So you’re starting with a mod swap then doing bats between each shot?

[austere bronze]

to do what i did in the video, mod swap cancel from a fast bring-up weapon (heavy cannon, plasma rifle, chaingun) into the rocket/ballista, and then mod swap cancel after each shot to maintain the chain

since the BATS effect stays in the weapon pretty much no matter what, when you're starting out you can take it slow

just focus on getting the mod swap cancels down, and then you can worry about actually cancelling the fire animation with it

BATS is kind of what happens when you mod swap cancel in this manner

[half hollow]

combo so good it kills both demons and framerate

[scenic axle]

Ok cool thanks

[nova violet]

Tbh, Eternal best game imo.

[scenic axle]

It's definitely my favorite game, but I can't say it's the best game ever

[nova violet]

Ah okay

3 and 2016 also make the top spot if I say so myself

[scenic axle]

for best game ever?

[nova violet]

Yeah

[scenic axle]

I don't think any of the doom games could really qualify for that

they're all great but they all lack somewhere

[nova violet]

I mean, they're all amazing that's for sure

And yeah I agree, they do lack in something

[scenic axle]

Doom eternal is quite buggy and has the worst story ever

everything else is amazing though

they're all great games

[vapid lantern]

Genuine question on why Davoth has so many tattoos on him?

[scenic axle]

Time for the second half of the slayer gate imma beat it first try 🙏

[scenic axle]

ok my game just died whenever I went there so did killai, im on what I think is the last encounter now

[austere bronze]

epic! did you beat the level?

[sick crow]

Guys, what are the most annoying demons in doom eternal for you?

[elder raft]

Probably the archvile or gargoyle. Both are pretty annoying

Marauder can be annoying too but i like the challenge he brings

[sick crow]

Yes, I remember the first time I met the archvile (when I was still quite bad) I hated him because I could never kill him immediately and in fact I killed him only with the BFG😂

[elder raft]

I only use the bfg against him

[sick crow]

As for the Marauder, I've always enjoyed playing that kind of 1v1 against him. The problem is when you have other demons attacking you. I always tried to kill the other demons first and then the marauder.

[sick crow]

Oh at least I'm not the only one 😂

[half hollow]

whiplash

i hate them with every fiber of my being

i cant even lock on rocket them which you would think would be effective but most of the time they just slither away from the rockets

[elder raft]

i was gonna say them too

whiplash's most annoying attack is the one that messes up your movement

[half hollow]

whiplashes require all of your attention to keep track of them or else they can easily catch you off guard which is difficult to do considering everything else you gotta prioritize in this game

ice bombs are really the best way to deal with them but it forces you to kinda save ice bombs specifically for them unless you know they wont appear in that arena

which is also very annoying

[elder raft]

i just ballista them while they're slithering on the ground since it either stuns them out of it or damages them heavily

[half hollow]

yeah but they are still tanky enough to take a lot of damage

if they were squisher i wouldnt mind them as much

but it feels like they are about as tough to kill as a mancubus

[elder raft]

idk about that. they feel weaker than a mancubus to me. not weak but weaker

[half hollow]

i mean yeah i know they are weaker

but to me it doesnt feel like it

especially since they can be pretty hard to hit sometimes compared to mancubi which are just big targets

[elder raft]

i just HC, ballista, SSG them and they're pretty much dead

[half hollow]

i wish microwave beam didnt have the stupid delay before actually activating because then it would be a very good mod for combos against them

but nah instead of buffing microwave beam, add an enemy that forces you to only use it

[sick crow]

Oh yeah, those are super annoying too

[reef ether]

YOUR MASCOT HAS RETURNED

So be honest favorite thing is the lock on rocket launcher mod where I can lock onto 2 demons

Also they should’ve added a mod for the bfg and unmakyer

[austere bronze]

basically half the HP of a mancubus

they are the weakest heavy alongside the revenant

(carcass doesn't count)

and i don't think you should save ice grenades for whiplashes

if you have trouble hitting them (you have splash options, destroyer blade, base ballista shot, precision bolt) you still have plenty of cheaper falter options

[austere bronze]

dlcs included? cursed prowler/screechers
only base game? archviles or whiplashes

but if you disable CC (which i have done) whiplashes aren't actually bad at all

[fervent geode]

can someone help me grind the battlemode achievements? i need 1 player

[west lagoon]

I just got doom eternal

[austere bronze]

hope you have fun!

[scenic axle]

Not yet, I had to go work

[rapid holly]

Hello guys!

How are you?

Hey, I wanted to ask you a question

Look, I've already finished Eternal difficulty, and now I've started a campaign on Nightmare. Could you give me some advanced tips?

[halcyon glade]

never give up

[pliant plover]

Quick swapping weapons is essential for survival

[halcyon glade]

i did my first run without knowing how to quick switch