doom-eternal

[scenic axle]

If you just learn to abuse the hammer then its pretty easy

[woeful depot]

And considering my Nightmare difficulty run it’s gonna be p a i n

[latent heath]

Well you could make it worse for yourself and not use the hammer whatsoever

[scenic axle]

you got this!

watch gameplay online if you want to improve

[woeful depot]

My current situation with UN is that after multiple attempts I managed to scathe past Hell on Earth, got to the Fortress of Doom, and logged off, turns out it doesn’t effing save so my progress got wiped

[latent heath]

I always hated UN

No offense to the people who love it but I just genuinely suck at the game

I wasn’t as good as I used to be

[austere bronze]

same

or i didn't always do it

but i do now, and have for a long time

[woeful depot]

For me, I loathe any game with pvp because I’m not that good at it

[latent heath]

Same

[astral hamlet]

I don’t dislike pvp
But with how many multiplayer and co-op games there are saturating the market, it gets really tiresome to see an interesting new game only to learn it’s just another co-op or multiplayer-focused title

Really quality single player movement shooters that are not just “doom with a fresh coat of paint” are damn hard to find

[carmine tartan]

This is exactly how I feel about Defect

[astral hamlet]

Yeah I saw Mick working on it and almost lost my shit
Then I saw the gameplay and it’s just

Not it

[proven granite]

I really hope it’s a case of the trailer making it look slower than it is

Otherwise it might just be one of those that I listen to the soundtrack for but not play

[astral hamlet]

Either way, the game’s DNA is a cramped, multiplayer tactical shooter

[proven granite]

Yeah I don’t get why, it has the DOOM sound and aesthetic, why couldn’t they take notes from the gameplay?

[carmine tartan]

Bungie Syndrome

[proven granite]

Not sure what that means

[carmine tartan]

This is more of a thing between my friends, since it's a really dumb and shallow way to describe it, but what I call Bungie Syndrome is essentially the whole, "from the makers of" thing

We see a product from or involving people who made or helped make something great, only to realize that it was something born of circumstance and teamwork rather than one person or a particular small group

Bungie made many great games before and during their tenure with Microsoft, and once they split from them, they kinda went down the drain almost completely

[proven granite]

Destiny isn’t bad though

[carmine tartan]

Destiny's launch was a disaster, Destiny 2 has ups and downs, and Marathon is... odd

[astral hamlet]

Destiny 2 wasn’t bad

[carmine tartan]

In any case, Bungie as we knew it in the 2000s no longer exists

You see this all the time in any form of media, from films, to novels, to games

[proven granite]

Destiny 2 is not nearly as good as DOOM but it’s still better than other shooters, it has cool abilities and somewhat faster speed

[carmine tartan]

The Callisto Protocol is a huge example, Mighty No. 9 more so, and, while it isn't the same in every way, Defect has the same sort of issue where it just isn't what we wanted or expected

The upcoming Highguard is a great example too

[proven granite]

Well Defect isn’t made by the developers of DOOM

[carmine tartan]

It has many ex id software members, which many people latched onto early on

[proven granite]

Oh really?

[carmine tartan]

Course, this doesn't mean much, hence what I meant by, "it isn't the same"

[proven granite]

Yeah it must not have been the exact developers that made DOOM good then

[carmine tartan]

I'm glad the new guard at id has talent and touch with both the fans and their history, because they could have easily gone down the route of Bungie

[proven granite]

I think that the Prodeus devs worked on DOOM, and that game is pretty great

[carmine tartan]

Ironically I feel like the old team would have done exactly that, given that Carmack was pushing so hard for "tech first" experiences

[proven granite]

ID Software has always been revolutionizing the FPS genre and setting the standard

[carmine tartan]

Eternal, for all its differences, FEELS like Doom to me

So I'm glad they're going the route they're going

[umbral ember]

It is doom

[proven granite]

Well, except for that period between the original games and 2016

[umbral ember]

If youre shooting demons its doom

[carmine tartan]

That's the thing, id software post Quake slowly became more of a tech demo company than anything

Mostly because of John Carmack's insistence on showing off his new tech at any cost

[proven granite]

Now it’s Hugo Martin in control and he is doing it right

[carmine tartan]

There is a noticeable difference in id's products and culture post-Romero and pre-Martin

And I couldn't be happier that we are out of that era

[proven granite]

Although I think the first DOOM from 2016 wasn’t made by Hugo, and it still rocks

[umbral ember]

Was made by hugo

[carmine tartan]

Technically none of them are, the game director is not the sole role at a company, but he did direct 2016

[proven granite]

Pacific Rim is truly one of the best movies, not only was it amazing on its own but it also led to the greatest video game series ever made

[normal glacier]

Howdy

[proven granite]

That is DOOM

[umbral ember]

Huh?

[proven granite]

Hugo worked on Pacific Rim before DOOM

It probably kick started his career

[umbral ember]

Oh right

[patent stream]

Yep. Thats why eternal has the Atlans

And TDA

[waxen wasp]

Hello Mortals

[soft gull]

another one

[waxen wasp]

i am new to this server but a long time doom player

[sinful cove]

Guys I have to choose a rune which one should I get

[real holly]

depends on ur playstyle

i personally prefer

1. Air control (its paramount and makes the game more fun honestly)
2. Higher speed glory kills (to keep the pace up)
3. Speed boost after glory kill (i like my speed)

while i believe 1 is paramount, especially for newer players, 2 and 3 are where you vary. The faster equipment recharge rune is really, really good for survivability for example. Or longer glory kill duration so your enemies don't get back up if u get distracted/overwhelmed before u can glory kill

longer glory kill range ig can help? But since a lot of optimal play especially with the ssg is close range you won't find yourself needing a longer reach for it

[astral hamlet]

the order I've had most success with is air control, then dazed and confused, then blood fueled
and once you get your equipment going, then you can switch one of those to equipment fiend

[untold delta]

I'm a bit iffy on playing doom eternal again because I got stuck on level 11 because there are just too many enemies to kill at once with the mechanics I had to do to kill them in the first place.

[proven granite]

After glory kill speed boost, longer stagger, further glory kill range

[scenic axle]

Air control and equipment fiend are the two best, third one just do what you like

[drowsy wedge]

i like air control, equip fiend, and the glory kill speed boost

[austere bronze]

i tried blood fueled, but never really liked it tbh

but it seems very popular here lol

[tall patrol]

i like uhh for launch gory kill, equipment fiend longer stagger

[austere bronze]

have you tried air control?

[half hollow]

i mean air control equipment fiend and blood fueled i feel like is just overall the best

the extra speed from blood fueled is just very good, letting you get out of a situation faster

[austere bronze]

yeah but the thing is that you're not running all that much in eternal

so the time you're benefiting from it is not that big

[half hollow]

are we playing the same game or are you saying that you fly more

because even then you get more speed in the air

[austere bronze]

i prefer savagery/dazed and confused for my third rune

[half hollow]

and most glory kills are on the ground unless you glory kill a cacodemon or pain elemental

[austere bronze]

dashes, meathook, and ballista boosting

if you single dash with normal run speed, it's as fast as blood fueled run speed

[sharp garden]

do i need to buy dlcs to platinum eternal?

[half hollow]

yeah but still, blood fueled still allows you to get out of a situation faster, its still better than most other glory kill related runes

[austere bronze]

the most critical moment of getting away is the start, where you have 300ms (500 if you're on itytd or hmp) of iframes, which is enough to complete an entire dash, you can also just pull up the chaingun shield on the first frame aftwr a gk

and if you instead use savagery, enemies will have much less of a chance to gang up on you

[storm eagle]

I've never used blood fueled once

[austere bronze]

i tried it once and didn't like it

[austere bronze]

so combining this with a dash as soon as possible after a gk is just much better than just running quickly

[austere bronze]

out of the 4 gk-related runes, i'd put it second last

1. dazed and confused
2. savagery
3. blood fueled
4. seek and destroy

blood fueled does have the bonus of working with chainsawing too though, which is nice

[storm eagle]

equipment fiend gang

[austere bronze]

equipment fiend is goated fr

[storm eagle]

savagery is gud too

air control obvs is king but can also do without for a challenge

[austere bronze]

yess!

[tall patrol]

no not really bcause i never need to use it i thaught but now pple are saying its good, why?

[rugged flax]

What did savagery do again?

Did it like do it faster

Also to me dazed and confused is garbage so dunno

I like blood fuled a lot

[austere bronze]

it allows you to move in the air the same way you do on the ground, easilyy the best rune in the game

[austere bronze]

yeah, double the speed of glory kills

[rugged flax]

Oh yeah to me thats useless

Fuck that I want to watch the GK every time

[tall patrol]

just asking,why is it the best rune

[half hollow]

because you can move better

[half hollow]

i dont see how dazed and confused or seek and destroy is any good at all

its like i dont think there is ever a situation where you cannot reach an enemy in time before they get unstaggered

[austere bronze]

there definitely is

it also allows you to do something else before glory killing, have a greater chance of there being an available glory kill, and you can more easily use enemies to take cover or use as platforms

[half hollow]

i see the situations in 2016, but not in eternal

[austere bronze]

it's happened me multiple times

[half hollow]

its never happened to me

[austere bronze]

recently too

[austere bronze]

lucky?

[half hollow]

no in eternal you just have the mobility where you can easily just close the distance

[austere bronze]

except when you get CCed, or except when the enemy is blocked, or when it's surrounded, or you have to do something else first

or when you're surrounded

[half hollow]

you could just kill him

[austere bronze]

yeah but then you can't perform the glory kill😭

also i find that the biggest thing causing me to miss a glory kill is that i didn't notice that the enemy was staggered until it's too late

[tall patrol]

uhh idk why bcause u only have 3 spots i use them for dazed and confused and launch and uhh smol cd on items

no space for more move

[half hollow]

what runes are those

i know dazed and confused

[austere bronze]

i'd recoomend replacing seek and destroy with air control

equipment fiend is goated

[half hollow]

yeah that seems more like a problem just caused by you not paying attention

[tall patrol]

but..but no launch in:(

[austere bronze]

dazed and confused kinda does the same thing but way better

[half hollow]

once you use air control its impossible to physically turn it off

tbh air control should be base game why is it even a rune

[tall patrol]

and if ur in i situation wherre ure rly low and need to get out or more health then im cooked

[austere bronze]

nah

movement without it is goated too

[tall patrol]

also just saying wanna do battlefield i got someone

need 1 more guy

[austere bronze]

i mean, if it is the enemy i'm directly hitting, then yeah

[half hollow]

i prefer to have better movement in my movement shooter thanks

[austere bronze]

but then i obviously do notice it

when i don't notice it it's because they were staggered via splash

[tall patrol]

also cheat codes are kinda unbalalanced

i have them all and its just too op bruh

[half hollow]

its still a problem caused by you not paying attention

[austere bronze]

in what way does air control objectively make the movement better? it mostly makes it easier

[tall patrol]

ik

[half hollow]

yeah i want you to really think about what they are called

[tall patrol]

buh\

[half hollow]

because better air control allows for more free movement allowing for better dodging and better positioning and overall more enjoyable movement

thing is with doom eternal is that 90% of the time you will be in the air

so why would you want your air movement to be limited

[gaunt pelican]

any tips to be overall good

[tall patrol]

anyone want to do battlefield

need 1 more guy

please

[austere bronze]

more freedom, true, but that freedom also allows you to ignore mistakes (too little/too much momentum, going in the wrong direction, etc), and ac only helps with dodging via redirecting momentum more easily, but does that really make movement better, or just easier?

you can have just as good positioning without ac, it's just harder and requires more awareness

most of the things about air control just makes the game easier not better, just like a run should

[tall patrol]

someone please

battlefield

i need 1 more guy

[austere bronze]

asking more times won't get more responses

[tall patrol]

k

soooooo ac isnt good?

[austere bronze]

ac is super good, easily the best rune, but i just think it should still be a rune

[austere bronze]

there are tons of tips, i can just share some general ones which often apply, but i can also give you some more specific tips if you want to share a gameplay clip

[gaunt pelican]

the general ones please and if i can ill send a clio

Are you done ? Typing

[austere bronze]

• use your movement tools! you should always be dashing, even if it's without a clear purpose, this will allow you to dodge more attacks and naturally move around in the arena. you should however do something called single dashing, which is when you only use the first dash. this is so you can save the second dash for when you really need it (e.g. to get somewhere, get away, redirect momentum).
  you also can't use the meathook too much. it's super good to restack with if you have the mastery. but its main function is getting into the air, this is done by jumping to detach from the meathook, and after that you will always have exactly one more jump to spend freely. you can combine this with the restacking abilities of it: meathook a demon->jump to detach->shoot (you have to shoot after jumping). you can also use it to get to a demon, but that's more auxiliary
  also make sure to use the environmental movement options (monkey bars and jump pads), as well as your double jumps.

• be in control! not being in control comes from a few things: tunnel visioning, bad routing, lack of awareness.
  tunnel visioning is when you focus on a single enemy/a group of enemies so much that you take unnecessary damage or put yourself in a bad situation. you want to cycle between demons in a sense, never staying around one for long, it's okay to not fully kill a demon! shoot one for a bit, then move on and restack, and go to the next demon. also many stay in one area while technically moving, but staying in a very limited space is also tunnel visioning.
  when you route your movement paths, you want to make sure you don't go into tight areas, places where you can get surrounded or move too straight/back and forward.
  you also want to be aware of the battle, see what's around you and locate the highest threats, then put the most focus on killing them (without tunnel visioning!)

• use all your tools. you want to use your entire/close to your entire arsenal to kill enemies, almost everything has a unique utility! and make sure to constantly flame belch, literally as soon as it's off cooldown, even if you just hit one enemy. ice grenades you don't have to spam, but don't hold on too long, same for frag grenades.

• keep your ammo high. you want to spend ammo roughly uniformly, and chainsaw when you're at about half ammo for all ammo types.

these are the fundamentals, but if you get good enough at them, you can beat any campaign or master level on ultra nightmare easily

[compact fable]

Hi everyone! I'm looking for a couple of people to help me complete the Doom Eternal multiplayer achievements. I really want to get all three games platinum.

[half hollow]

i mean thats just kinda artificially making it more challenging

like if you make moving more tedious then yeah its harder and having an option to make it less tedious technically makes it easier

like ac makes movement better and by technicality easier

also things to take into consideration is that air control is just a really good qol to make movement feel way better aswell

without ac movement can feel very unresponsive

which is not something you want in a movement shooter

especially not one where you are always in the air

[austere bronze]

this is fair actually, this is probably the one thing that i think could make ac movement actually better and not just easier

[austere bronze]

not using any particular rune is making the game artificially more challenging then?

this is non-ac movement btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVxX6sZCnWc

the thing you're losing out on without ac is being able to redirect your momentum at any time and accelerate to base walking speed in the air at any time

but you can redirect momentum instantly with the meathook, or by having a more grounded approach and utilizing more dashes

it takes more responsibility to play without ac because of that, but the unresponsiveness can be jarring for sure

[real holly]

blood fueled seems to help if u prefer playing more grounded doe

[austere bronze]

i still don't really think so

[real holly]

what if i just like running fast

[austere bronze]

because then dashing is very important, which bf doesn't affect, and you'll often meathook or ballista boost, and bf only marginally affects the latter

[austere bronze]

then bf is your best bet xd

[real holly]

this revelation that apparently blood fueled is lame is funny bc i beat UN with it and have been using it as my third rune for like months

before it was equipment fiend

but i think the equipment fiend rune is good, just too defensive, i need to understand if the blood punch rune is any good, bc i like more blood punch, but it seems useless in late game? idk

[austere bronze]

yeah punch and reave doesn't really do anything

i'd definitely use even blood fueled over it

why do you think equipment fiend is too defensive though?

[austere bronze]

at least it wasn't chrono strike which i used for a significant amount of time😭

[real holly]

dude i NEVER use time slowing runes, i used it like a little when i started playing but never again, feels like cheating

[real holly]

no no its perfectly fine, but I wonder if there's a rune that assists my offensive rather than just health/ammo pull

last chance

or however that was called

[austere bronze]

saving throw, yeaaa😭😭

saving throw, chrono strike and punch and reave

PEAK combo

[real holly]

i never touched that again after realizing the game already has a soft saving throw built in

which im already mixed on btw, wish i could toggle it off

if im dead, then im dead, there's no sugarcoating it

[austere bronze]

unfortunately not really, the only runes which are even worth using imo is air control, equipment fiend, dazed and confused, savagery, and maybe blood fueled

[real holly]

https://tenor.com/view/driving-an-old-beat-up-car-mr-wolf-the-bad-guys-2-driving-a-slow-car-universal-pictures-gif-8754938588440382219

life without savagery:

[austere bronze]

frrr

i got a mod to make savagery apply to chainsawing too

[real holly]

Oh please

[austere bronze]

almost a crime that it doesn't by default😭

[real holly]

i need that

yeah why doesn't it, also i think it doesn't work on blood makyrs either

but tbf you ain't glory killing them a lot anyways

[austere bronze]

on the official mod portal i use faster chainsaw by evan, because the chainsaw savagery mod doesn't speed up all chainsaw animations by 2x😤

i think only mecha zombies are sped up 2x with that mod

[real holly]

maybe ill just use dazed and confused now, the occasional "oh he's back bc i got slightly distracted fuck" is annoying

[austere bronze]

and 2x is how much savagery normally affects every glory kill

[austere bronze]

yeah

you can also use it to stand on cacos/pain elementals and pretty easily regen your dashes :P

even more aicamping yayy

[real holly]

yippee

pain elementals are funny bc i legitimately use punch cancelling with the ballista ONLY with them

like, FUCK YOU energy

the airbalest is too slow, its like what i thought the chainshot in dark ages would be like

and its also like really lame to use a entire weapon mod for a single enemy

[austere bronze]

you haven't seen peak if you haven't seen this combo yet..
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021939526739951638/1458822517505659002/Doom_Eternal_2026.01.08_-_14.58.34.36.mp4?ex=696109d7&is=695fb857&hm=42ce52bac9d351510d7888657ef2b48c51f46b692f0c252732dc7b8a707db9c4&

almost as fast as 3 regular ballista punch cancels (measured from the moment you fire to when you're back to the dblade), and it gives you fast destroyer blade..

[austere bronze]

this is so relatable though😭 i don't really punch cancel the ballista at all anymore, but if i do, it's just for the pain elementals lmaoo

[latent heath]

Kalibus, The sightless judge it determines if the soul is fit for the extraction process, The rest will discarded to the blood swamps

[austere bronze]

thank you

[latent heath]

:p

I love the blood swamps

[austere bronze]

like playing the level?

[latent heath]

Yeah and the whole design just everything about it really

[real holly]

thanks Samuel for keeping me captive as you exposition 🥀

blood swamps is one of my favorites too

[latent heath]

Lol

[drowsy wedge]

that first big for for the first half of the shield in that mission was the single hardest thing in the entire game for me

took me fucking forever to finish that god damn fight on nightmare

[real holly]

see idk how people say this, when the holt is right there

[austere bronze]

what even exists in the holt😭

[real holly]

the possesed pain elemental and slayer gate

the possesed pain elemental lives in my nightmares, no matter how good i get it's just always out of reach

the possesed marauder is actually just legitimately broken and buggy

buff totem marauder is where its at baby

[drowsy wedge]

idk man there were only 2 fights in the game that really had me stuck for a long time before i could get past them when i finally went through on nightmare and that was the first big fight on the way back after destroying the complex in the first TAG1 mission and the other was the one i just mentioned in blood swamps

everything else i was able to get through without dying or only having to retry a few times

[real holly]

Possesed demons become way more tolerable if you have the microwave beam on standby to halt their movement

microwave beam+rocket combo goes hard (I don't use lob)

[drowsy wedge]

i even had trouble getting to the possessed baron (?) part of the blood swamps fight

idk that arena is just so obnoxious with how narrow and constricting it is

[austere bronze]

pb->sticky/stickies->ballista is goated for possessed enemies if you don't use lob imo

[real holly]

stickies?

[austere bronze]

i remember being stuck there for like 2 or 3 days😭

[austere bronze]

sticky in plural

[real holly]

are we deadass? Please enlighten me

how does the sticky help

[austere bronze]

it's like a mino rocket but travels much faster so you don't really miss

it's cheap so you can use a lot of them, deals decent damage, travels fast, and does splash

so combining them with pb and ballista is good damage

altho if you don't quickswap them with FSE, the combo is mid

[scenic axle]

I feel like all the gk runes are good and usable, some are definitely better than others but I think which ones are better is determined by how you play, but generally savagery and dazed and confused are the best. I used to use blood fueled for a while but since I don’t gk as often I use savagery now

[full meadow]

After updating to dlss 4.5 the render preset changed from F to L and the fps sometimes drops below 100 now: so instead of F to pay respects, I'm taking the L now.

[nova lintel]

If anyone is interested, there is a doom eternal run in about 2 hours on awesome games done quick. You can watch and donate on twitch, YouTube, or games done quick dot com.

Donations go to prevent cancer foundation

[latent cradle]

how did you modswap so fast? Was pulling out the heavy cannon to cancel out the modswap animation?

[austere bronze]

i did it in a pretty complex way by combining Silent BATS and Wack Swapping (for reasons which would allow me to set up fast destroyer blade), which i'd be happy to get into if you want
but there are easier methods of completely avoiding the mod swap animation, which i can also get into!

[keen wasp]

oops

the arena in exultia after you get dash, i managed to phase out of it by glory killing a HK on the border

hah, either a glitch or on purpose the game sent the remaining demons out with me to finiosh the fight

[queen badger]

Hey! Anyone wanna boost battlemode trophies?

[latent cradle]

I gotta be honest I have no clue what those two terms you just said mean but I'd love to hear about it!!

[wispy crater]

I'm down!

[unique abyss]

I'm not old enough to say DOOM is my first entry but I'm enjoying DOOM Eternal

[shadow ibex]

ultra nightmare is uhh

pretty hard i realized

[woeful depot]

If I had to pick one criticism for Ancient Gods 2-I only have 1-it's that I kinda feel like humanity and ARC should've participated in the Battle of Hell, it'd make the most sense narratively, that for all their worship of Doomguy, they follow him into the ultimate battle, and considering how Earth was lost one time too many in the entire franchise, I think this would be the perfect way to progress, humanity finally taking its own stand against the horde

the Sentinels are cool, but I think the ARC's presence would've been better

[simple holly]

Them teaming up together woulda been cool as well

The Argenta and Earth that is

[woeful depot]

exactly

imagine seeing the ARC soldiers and their mechs bumping shoulders with Atlans

if there is to be a game after Eternal chronologically, I would like for that kind of scene to be in it

[simple holly]

Fighter jets and sentinel cruisers flying over Immora woulda been cool as Hell too

[woeful depot]

I can guess that maybe it was the pressure of covid that resulted in that not happening, but damn, it NEEDS to happen at some point

[simple holly]

Yeah

It’s unfortunate, but we can’t change what we got

[woeful depot]

reminds me of an anime I watched that was released during covid, it was a sequel to an earlier show

in order to buy time for new episodes they just recapped like 90% of the first show across 3 episodes

[scenic axle]

Nah hammer has gotta be worse

That could be pretty cool though, I like that idea

[woeful depot]

it makes the most sense from a narrative standpoint, especially now more than ever, with Doom Slayer being mythologized by mankind, at some point they would be bold enough to face Hell directly, I feel like before Operation Hellbreaker, Hayden would've had plans for that

given he'd led operations into it prior

[real holly]

thing is

Sentinels seem to be, or are implied to be actually more competent against demons than humans

considering they required a civil war to be defeated, while humans just got fucked by demons on Earth

like a Sentinel soldier is super trained to be an elite warrior, also in close quarters much better than let's say a human soldier. Human soldiers hold onto their modless plasma rifles like they lives depend on it

[woeful depot]

there's a few factors, namely Doomguy had arrived to the Sentinels before the demons, they would have had even a little bit of preparation, humanity between 2016 and Eternal did not have Doomguy, while you can argue that the average Sentinel is stronger than the average human, it's also down to a complete difference in doctrine as well as environment

[real holly]

i think humans legitimately forget that with demons, its not just good to shoot, but also be a animal in close quarters once the demon approaches

[real holly]

doctrine and environment definitely help the Sentinels no doubt

I'm not denying the Sentinels would have been cooked in Taras Nabad had it not been for the Slayer

but doctrine and environment just had them more built for demon war

[woeful depot]

Sentinels are straight up trained as knights, they are hands down superior with wide ranges of melee weapons, while they did create guns, it's obvious they managed to hold that focus on melee

[real holly]

unlike humans which hide behind guns and melee training is minimal compared to Sentinels knight esque training

like u said

[woeful depot]

additionally, Argent D'Nur has a whole range of different lifeforms than Earth, from things like dragons, to giants, and the Wraiths

[real holly]

im pretty sure in Immora the humans ideally shouldn't have sent ground forces, but they would totally have been useful with cruisers, aircraft and giant mechs

[woeful depot]

so the argument can be made that Sentinels had much better experience with what humans would deem unnatural

[real holly]

yeah

[woeful depot]

exactly

[real holly]

i think the biggest advantage humans have over sentinels is ig the bfg or superweapons, unless we haven't seen more Sentinel superweapons

[woeful depot]

even so, I would've anticipated that humans would've been on the ground, 2016 displayed that human soldiers, while in clear need of assistance in extended incursions to Hell, can for a time face off demons in their own territory

[woeful depot]

maybe? From what we know, the most powerful weapon the Sentinels had was the BFC, as it was used to corral the Old One

[real holly]

yeah but, the BFC seemed to be like, a one of a kind, while there's the 2016 BFG, the Eternal BFG and the BFG cannon in phobos, not to mention nukes which are implied to exist in the corrax (In Eternal, in the Super Gore Nest invasion description, they recommend nukes near the end)

im pretty sure its all just one BFG, but there's a possibility there's more than one

even outside of that though, nukes are just casually there

[woeful depot]

there's mutiple manufactured BFG prototypes,

[real holly]

yeah while there's only one BFC

i think what genuinely fucks civilizations is not just demons by themselves, but the nature of surprise attacks, little prep time and demonic influence making the enemies ranks falter

[woeful depot]

the Codexes of TDA and Eternal don't seem to speak of any superweapons, but, once again, this is most likely due to a difference in doctrine from humanity

[real holly]

how many times has shit been started in Doom bc people gave into hell's influence

its clearly stated in the first dark ages level that the outer shield would have held if it wasn't for traitor's who fell into hell's influence

[woeful depot]

Sentinels are very much in the camp of frontline warfare, the concept of something like an orbital laser or a nuclear missile most likely falls under the realm of dishonor and therefore illegal, or, they just literally never thought of it

[real holly]

yeah basically

the real question ofc is if demons would win just by sheer numbers, which seems unlikely considering how much hell influences their victim's to give way for the demons

[woeful depot]

demons are very good at manipulation, think of it like Frieren, the demons learn our languages so they can use it against us

[real holly]

its unspoken but if demons didn't manipulate and just tried to charge in headfirst, they wouldn't win

[woeful depot]

based on 2016 and Eternal, a lot of what demons relied on was savagery and numbers, most of them don't think tactically, that's for someone like a demon general or royalty to think of

[real holly]

heres the thing though

they already win by numbers bc the enemy has been crippled by more smarter, manipulative demons

or just the Makyrs, like Eternal

we haven't actually seen many fights in modern doom where the good guys aren't internally compromised by hell's influence

[woeful depot]

The Makyrs themselves do not direct the demons, that much is evident, it’s most likely the Deags were responsible for that

[real holly]

just a single manipulation of some interns working at the shield gates and bam, the hoards charge in

[real holly]

true true

[real holly]

numbers come after the good guys forces are compromised

how far would the demons have gone if Olivia hadn't been compromised in 2016

[woeful depot]

You also have to factor in that the mere presence of demons starts to affect things, zombies and Gore Nests

[real holly]

it isn't a coincidence that there's so many cultists you have to kill in Dark Ages, that's how the demons gained the advantage

its simple really, the traitor cultists open the floodgates and then the demon numbers are super hard to counter

[woeful depot]

The dimensional barrier was the only thing really holding back the demons in TDA, once it fell, the demons were free to go wherever

[real holly]

but if the traitors weren't there, which they usually are, the demons have a much harder time getting through human/sentinel tech

the traitors themselves are created by hell's influence ofc

[woeful depot]

It’s possible that the cultist rituals featured in later missions are much like the ritual the priests used to lead Doomguy back to the mortal realm

[real holly]

In 2016 it was Spider Mastermind manipulating Olivia so she would manipulate others, in Eternal it was Khan manipulating the Deags to manipulate Earths people, and in Dark Ages it was Ashrak with varying levels of influence to Kreed and Sentinel's

[woeful depot]

Oh the Khan Makyr wasn’t manipulating the Deags, they straight up were warped by Hell

[real holly]

this manipulation of individuals basically breaks the beehive of demons, by then victory is almost certain

[real holly]

yeah

[woeful depot]

From what it sounds like when reading the cultist page of TDA’s codex, it almost sounds less like the demons, and more like Hell itself manipulates mortals, Azrhak and the Spider Mastermind just use that influence on specific people

[real holly]

With this logic I could totally understand how ARC managed to secure Australia, bc not only is it a huge island and water is a natural barrier, but if the people's will is strong enough to resist hell's influence, the demoms have a much harder time breaking through due to the technology actually doing its purpose, like what weapon is designed to fire on its own hell turned people? Ofc it won't work, it works if its firing at an offensive from the outside, not inside

[real holly]

yeah, the main antagonist manipulate specific big players to delegate manipulation to other individuals

and the rest is hell's influence

[gentle thicket]

I wonder why they had to change the cyberdemons name to the tyrant

Is because they lost the rights to use the word cyberdemon?

[fringe torrent]

If anyone owns the rights it's them, they probably changed it to avoid confusion with 2016's Cyberdemon as it's an actual single entity there

[gentle thicket]

Yeah but In doom 2 there was a demon called a cyberdemon

I get what you're saying

[drowsy wedge]

theyre called cyberdemons in TDA again

i think they just were like screw it the fans know we dont need to try to make it make sense anymore lol

[fringe torrent]

Yup but it wasn't a single entity, rather it was a group of demons

[fringe torrent]

And that's based

[drowsy wedge]

so true

[astral hamlet]

difference is that the 2016 cyberdemon and the tda cyberdemon have aura, whereas the eternal tyrant has none to speak of

[gentle thicket]

Aura?

[storm eagle]

The Eternal tyrant is lame

[drowsy wedge]

the glory kill when you leap on its face and continually stab its eye as it falls over is sick af tho

[storm eagle]

yeah I do enjoy that too

Same with the Marauder.

[proven granite]

Eternal’s tyrant is my least favorite when compared to the two Cyberdemons

[storm eagle]

Fighting buffstacked behemoths is fun

[proven granite]

But it does have cool melee animations and glory kills

[proven granite]

Behemoths like from Metal: Hellsinger?

[astral hamlet]

behemoths are a custom AI in some modded eternal levels

they're like tyrants but they're stupid tanky and deal stupid damage

also they're immune to a bunch of falters

[half hollow]

metal hellsinger mentioned in 2026

crazy

[gaunt pelican]

Bro my headphones are so ahh they disconnect every nanosecond

[misty sky]

that def better then only hearing outa one side

my headset is fuckedd

[gaunt pelican]

why is the archville so annoying??????

[gaunt pelican]

is it just me or is there a glitch where the energy shield can be equiped on any weapon

[austere bronze]

silent BATS is a combination of a mod swap cancel (MSC) and silent mod swap (SMS).

(skip if you know what MSC is)
You MSC by pressing the mod bind, and immediately the bind of another weapon, if done correctly you'll only swap to the other weapon. This does 2 things: it can cancel animations allowing you to swap faster, but it also transfers the bring-up speed of the first weapon to the second (BATS).

(skip if you know what SMS is)
SMS is done by first pressing the bind of another weapon, and immediately the mod bind, if done correctly you'll swap the the second weapon and the first weapon's mod will have changed. You have to fire the first weapon before swapping for this to work.

Silent BATS combines them so the inputs are: mod swap bind-> (other) weapon bind->mod swap bind. This makes the timing more tricky, but you get both the effects of a MSC and you don't have to fire the first weapon for its mod to change. However, silent BATS has a caveat where if the second weapon's equipped mod occupies the same row (up/down) as the mod the first weapon had before the "invisible" mod swap happened, you'll do a manual mod swap after having swapped to the second weapon. so if you have the ballista with arbalest out, and silent BATS to the rocket with remote det out, you'll perform a manual mod swap once you bring out the rocket. You can however avoid this by immediately swapping away from the second weapon.

(skip if you know what FSE is)
FSE (fast swap effect) makes weapons with a slow bring-up (rocket, combat shotgun, ballista) have a fast one, and it allows you to swap away immediately after firing, instead of having to wait a bit (weapons where there's a delay: ballista, rocket launcher, combat shotgun, super shotgun). The receivers of FSE is usually the rocket launcher and combat shotgun (ssg and ballista can receive too, but it's not really relevant), and there are a ton of applicators, one of them being the pb! this is why pb+rocket can be so fast.

Wack swaps are another way to apply FSE. You can perform them in 2 ways. The first is by firing a weapon with a delay for swapping away, immediately pressing the heavy cannon bind, and immediately after that press the bind of the receiver. If done fast you'll see the first weapon pop up again when the heavy cannon should appear, and then the third weapon will appear with FSE applied, if you're a bit slower you'll see the heavy cannon very briefly appear. But you have to be fast, otherwise it won't work. The second way to do it is by MSCing into the heavy cannon but immediately pressing the bind of another weapon after you pressed the heavy cannon bind. Here you will always see the heavy cannon pop up. There are many edge cases with this, such as some weapon mods, if you've BATSed a weapon, dry fire and there are many other (less useful) animations you can wack swap, but this is the main gist of it.

This is why I love to wack swap in tandem with silent BATS, because you'll always skip the aforementioned manual swap in the second weapon if you time the wack swap and silent BATS correctly. You can wack swap if you silent BATS into the heavy cannon, and use with the second method for wack swaps which involves a MSC, which silent BATS has.

The reason I did the combination of wack swap and silent BATS in the clip despite the ballista not receiving any FSE involves combo swap chains and how the fast destroyer blade tech works.

[austere bronze]

wtf, i thought energy shield vacation was patched out in 6.0??

do you know how you're doing it? or are you playing a downpatched version?

[gaunt pelican]

Ohhh i just heard it never actually did anyways how do you down patch

one thing is can you add eternal launchers mods to Doometernal

[austere bronze]

i have no clue, but i think there's information of it in the MDSR server

[gaunt pelican]

waht is that?

[austere bronze]

modern doom speedrunning

i can send you the link in dms

[gaunt pelican]

yea can you

[simple holly]

<@&162901871168585728>

[spare marsh]

There's the bot activity

[candid drum]

The second gate is something annoying

two spawners i gonna have too watch a video about hammering them

[austere bronze]

what

[candid drum]

https://youtu.be/V0FxvjUK3f8?si=uWHe5ed5JphTVUX-

:l wow only 8k views lol

[candid drum]

do i really want this skin that bad

[austere bronze]

8k is a lot for a doom eternal gameplay video tbh

[candid drum]

I sad i didnt pkay it on release

I had this 1080 pos laptop

I played Warframe instead lol

[cosmic abyss]

I just bought both parts of ancient gods

[twin gale]

back to being hooked on this game

just finished the atlanticacslayer gate with full health and armor somehow lol

[candid drum]

U gonna shit ur pants when u see the holt gate

[storm eagle]

Too difficult>>Nerfed>>Too easy>>Nerfed>>Difficult again

Perfect.

[modest swift]

https://youtu.be/566PQGYtZiU i still cannot finish it

[austere bronze]

getting stuck in geo is the worst

if you have the console unlocked tho, try this command

pm_disablewalkingontheedgeofledge 0

[keen wasp]

would y'all consider UV a hard difficulty?
like if someone told you they'd beat the game on UV would you be impressed?

[acoustic lark]

Depends on the person. If its above their normal "skill ceiling" then yeah, I would congratulate them.

[keen wasp]

fair

I'm just curious, I usually play on HMP

idk why I'm looking for validation it's a single player game lol the difficulty doesn't matter as long as you enjoy it

[acoustic lark]

And just because Nightmare is my "default" difficulty, doesnt mean its not a huge achievement for someone else to beat the game even on the easiest difficulty. As long as they have fun. Thats all that matters 💛

[austere bronze]

hard is subjective

[keen wasp]

exactly! I do find the gamer mentality of belittling people who don't beat it on a "unfairly hard and obtuse" difficulty ridiculous

[austere bronze]

i personally wouldn't be impressed, but the most common difficulties are probably hurt me plenty and i'm too young to die

[modest swift]

uv is challenging but gives you more chances for mistakes than nightmare i think

but ngl playing tag dlc on nightmare gives me thoughts that i should been playing main campain on nightmare too

i got too used to uv giving me more space for mistakes

[keen wasp]

yeah totally!

[austere bronze]

when the easier difficulty is easier

[untold ravine]

Fellas which master level should i play

[real holly]

M1 says as they can't beat dark lord on Hurt me Plenty, for shame!

[untold ravine]

Can someone gimme a master level to play

I cant decide

[proven granite]

Just start from the earliest mission

[real holly]

ARC Complex is the easiest one

[untold ravine]

Ight im letting the wheel decide, squid or mcqueen

Super gore nest or arc complex

[austere bronze]

sgn

sgn is the best ml

[austere bronze]

i haven't beaten that boss on anything above hmp btw

[real holly]

probably yeah

[untold ravine]

Nvm sgn got more people

Ight sgn

[austere bronze]

like frfr

[real holly]

I'd like the Mars Core ml if it wasn't for that one double marauder arena with heaps of heavy demons

its just not fun

[real holly]

you should try beating World Spear on hmp

[untold ravine]

Double mauraders are a nightmare combo if you encounter shii like that for the first time

[austere bronze]

why😭

[untold ravine]

Last wave of horde mode with the 4 eye thingies protecting the hell totem while 2 mauraders chase you

[real holly]

(so you can beat it for the first time)

double marauders are tolerable in isolation

[drowsy wedge]

taras nabad

(this was the first master level i tried)

[real holly]

taras nabad master level is absolute agony

[twin gale]

i already seen the holt gate but its been a while so

[real holly]

when im in a "bitch made" competition and my opponent are the two fuckass archvilles that hide behind the orange walls

[untold ravine]

Next one after sgn

[austere bronze]

one of the most peak arenas

[untold ravine]

Holy shii i got too used to shooting with R2 so now i keep changing the weapon instead of shooting with R1

[twin gale]

well youre on nightmare so props to you for being brave enough to even try it when i didnt do it on my nightmare run

[real holly]

I don't think I've ever suffered more in Doom Eternal than when i was doing my UN run of Taras Nabad ML

[austere bronze]

i just did my first un run in forever

so much gaming

[drowsy wedge]

taras nabad ML is wild it took me over 2 hours just on UV

i have not tried it again on nightmare lol

[austere bronze]

kinda wanna do a base game ml

because gaming

[real holly]

is there a mod for that

just every level is master level, official or not

[austere bronze]

you mean a mod which compiles multiple mls?

[real holly]

idk maybe

[austere bronze]

which ml should i do tho (not arc or cultist😭)

[real holly]

Sentinel Prime ML 🥀

[fringe torrent]

Prine

[austere bronze]

the unreleased official mls suck so much

[real holly]

yeah

but they are unreleased for a reason

[austere bronze]

yup lol

[real holly]

cause they caught on that they weren't challenging at all

SO INSTEAD HERE'S DOUBLE MARAUDERS HAHAHA + shield activation from enemy projectiles (GO FUCK YOURSELF)

[fringe torrent]

Do the one that focuses around something from Quake II (I am testing your knowledge here)

[austere bronze]

ez super gore nest

[fringe torrent]

mars core

[austere bronze]

dang

[real holly]

super gore nest ml just has some funny arenas, like the double marauder in toxic waste one or spectre pinky spam

try playing grounded Slayer in that one with the Tyrants and Carcasses

you will die instantly

[untold ravine]

That one

[austere bronze]

i am gonna do sgn

[untold ravine]

Arc.

[austere bronze]

because frick the others (except mars core it's cool)

[untold ravine]

Ykw

Do taras nabad.

[fringe torrent]

I wonder how many people got confused by the fact that Master Levels for DOOM II aren't harder versions of maps from the game but just straight up entirely new maps

[austere bronze]

i can do that one after sgn

kinda curious as to how long they take me to beat

game crashed😭

[real holly]

even the strongest Eternal demons can't hold a candle to the softlock and/or crash!

[untold ravine]

On ultra nightmare.

[austere bronze]

didn't do un specifically

but i did it on nightmare deathless

[untold ravine]

Poopy head

[austere bronze]

took 20 min and 58 seconds

time for taras nabad yay

[austere bronze]

what's even the purpose of going on un😭

[untold ravine]

Playing on un

[austere bronze]

so no reason😭

[real holly]

un fans when they die and have to do 45 minutes again for no reason

[austere bronze]

frr

i had to redo like an hour long segment due to un yesterday

not worth it

[real holly]

yep

[austere bronze]

luckily there's only 1 level left i wanna un

then i am done and i'll go back to doing random stuff

[real holly]

i did all MLs on UN outside of World Spear cause I don't like the Hammer and the level's designed around it

[fringe torrent]

I never beat World Spear ML but the game thinks I did because one of the Battlemode rewards is what you get for beating the ML on HMP

So it's marked as completed because I have the item

[half ice]

Cool

[candid drum]

God have mercy

[scenic axle]

I don’t know what’s wrong with me but I beat it on UN first try then mars core and sgn took me 10+ attempts each

I think it should be the other way around

[candid drum]

I beat 2016 doom on the one with retrys doon eternal seems even harder

[elder raft]

depending on your preferred playstyle, it is. i found 2016 harder but that's because i prefer eternal's faster playstyle and can do that more

[candid drum]

2016 def scarier

[scenic axle]

If you mean extra life mode then it’s not that bad, there’s like 50 extra lives I think across the game

[candid drum]

The hardest mode before perma death

[stiff wigeon]

I hate having it on switch there's absolutely no multiplayer lobbies out there

[umbral ember]

Favorite weapon combo?

[austere bronze]

impossible to define what a combo is, but i really like this one
https://youtu.be/7EUzg79qMLQ?si=pIgvNrqE_K2pP9N5

[azure oriole]

Can I mod Doom Eternal?

[astral hamlet]

Yes

[eager herald]

The super shotgun the flame belch the chainsaw and finally the crucible

Oh and the blood punch

[storm eagle]

use idstudio

[azure oriole]

K

[storm eagle]

When you do, you can ask questions in #eternal-modding , there are tons of members in there who can and want to help you

[split zephyr]

Anyone help me?

My game is stuck loading on a loading screen and the green bar isn't moving. :((

[azure oriole]

Reinstall

[split zephyr]

I have the game installed on an SSD.

[azure oriole]

Complete Reinstall

[split zephyr]

fixed haha

[patent stream]

Yay!

[split zephyr]

Windows 11 folder blocked

You know

Ransonware protection

[dark epoch]

my game keeps deleting every new save i make in the base campaign of the game does anyone have a fix

[patent stream]

Are you selecting Ultranightmare mode?

[dark epoch]

no

it happens on every difficulty as soon as i log off the game it just deletes the save

doesnt happen on either dlc though

[royal arch]

which ultra nightmare is the easiest

[gaunt pelican]

i just beated tag 1 NM

[drowsy wedge]

congrats

i felt so relieved when i finally cleared that

[gaunt pelican]

and smh i did it in like i believe 2-3 hr

[kindred pebble]

we are in #doom-eternal

[austere bronze]

tag2

[real holly]

it was the first i completed and yeah

Sentinel Hammer makes things into a cakewalk

on replay while restricting myself from using it, the garbo part two dlc enemy problems become worse

[rugged flax]

I’d say tag2

You mean eternal modding right????

[graceful quartz]

Am I the only person who has ever lost their mind during the Seraphim boss fight?

[drowsy wedge]

no

in fact that might be one of the largest groups of people you could join in this game

[keen wasp]

deathless first hunter fight lesgooooooooo (on HMP granted but usually this boss kicks my ass on any difficulty)

i used a 1up in the duo but also cleared that first tome

[royal arch]

apparently the ray tracer ballista skin wss named after raytracing

[rugged flax]

LuL

[graceful quartz]

I literally had a crashout yesterday in another server because of how hard the Seraphim's boss fight was for me

Had to resort to using the Sentinel Armor thing that the game recommended me to use

[drowsy wedge]

its pretty annoying

theres a pretty cool trick you can do which is not at all simple but you can BFG right when the encounter ends and it switches to the double spirit part itll kill the demons before the spirit goes into them

not saying you should try that but i found that really cool when i saw it

[real holly]

i just

wish that boss decided what it wanted to be

is it
A. A fight against Seraphim and Blood Makyrs?
B. An arena with buffed possessed demons?

I don't like the weird mix they tried to create

especially that lame ass Cacodemon phase, that one just wastes time and it should go

[real holly]

rip LinuxPC, too sigma

[azure oriole]

😭

[woeful depot]

I said it before somewhere else but I’mma say it here

[azure oriole]

What?

[woeful depot]

Ultra Hottake

Doom Eternal cosmetics fumbled in certain areas

The cosmetics themselves are absolutely beautiful, amazing, fun, but, I feel like they could’ve been better

Most emotes are locked to whatever set they’re from, it woulda been a lot cooler if you could mix and match them, and it also coulda been super cool to enable an option for demon cosmetics in the campaign

[patent stream]

Don’t forget most of The cosmetics are not complete sets either

[woeful depot]

The only other things I have to say on it is that I wish we could get the 2016 weapons as skins in game, and that they ported Doom 3 Marine in from Quake Champions

Oh yeah, and more classic weapon skins

[fringe torrent]

I wish you didn't need to buy like 10 DLCs to have a "complete" set

[woeful depot]

But personally? I find this game to be in my top five or so, right next to Titanfall 2

We need more mecha shooters like Titanfall man…Diesel Knights and Shatter Rush can’t come soon enough

[real holly]

for a mostly single player game too

incentive for skins in single player games is even less

[keen wasp]

ripatorium doesn't count to mod mastery right?

[kindred pebble]

you mean the newsletter?

cause what data or life privacy are you giving away

[real holly]

perfect pfp

[dire crown]

i love doom

its so peak

[real holly]

doom so peak...

im dooming so hard rn

[dire crown]

we are so doom

[kindred pebble]

dude they already have your email what else are you giving up

you are just saying yes to them sending you emails, which you can easily unsubscribe from

[real holly]

baller

favorite looking Doom Eternal stage? Mine is Taras Nabad

[drowsy wedge]

urdak

and cultist base

[scenic axle]

tag2 objectively

[patent stream]

^

It’s toned down quite a bit and is shorter than tag 1

[real holly]

yeah urdak looks phenomenal

[small helm]

probably Blood Swamps, all levels look fantastic so it's really hard to pick

[royal arch]

urdak

[graceful quartz]

Urdak and Super Gore Nest

[scenic axle]

Sgn and blood swamps for me, but there’s so many good looking levels

[woeful depot]

just wrapped up Doom the Dark Ages, decided to get my runback on another run of Super Gore Nest Master Level

might resume playing Eternal on Switch, I love having the on-the-go stuff

[paper thorn]

dude i sucked at eternal on the switch

[patent stream]

Its so nice to have it portable. Just waiting for tda port now

[unique abyss]

Doom Eternal has been fun so far. I hope the last mission is gonna wrap up the base game well

[static fiber]

Hello Everyone

[spare pike]

how do i get the classic doom guy skin? (im on steam)

[umbral ember]

Any tips to get good at controller

Im trying to actually get good at the game

I have binds im comfortable with but any other tips like aim or some

[umbral ember]

Super gore nest or final sin

[real holly]

Final sin? Suprising

its arguably one of the more basic looking levels

foggy night city

although it's still good on its own

i think the fact that its a basic city adds to the feel of "Doomguy is chasing the Icon to whatever place, it doesn't matter where, just must kill it"

[prisma tundra]

Tips for ultranightmare

[real holly]

keep your health above 0

[real holly]

practice on each stage on nightmare and try to beat each of them more than once without once reaching low health

[prisma tundra]

Thanks

[halcyon breach]

Is it possible to play doom eternal without any shotgun?

[storm eagle]

any? no

[elder raft]

Like, play the game without using a shotgun? If you ignore level 1 there you only have a shotgun for half of it then sure yeah

[half hollow]

i mean you can use fists and dashes if youre really determined

or console commands and unlock the pistol

[elder raft]

that would take like 100 punches for each enemy or a fuckton of dashes for each enemy which would take like 4 years

[half hollow]

but technically possible

[elder raft]

i guess

read up on it. a regular punch does 1 damage to demons. it would take 100 punches to kill one zombie and 3000 to kill one of the arachnotrons. 2500 for the cacodemons. if some madlad managed to do this then i think they deserve an award. that shit would take days

[half hollow]

though dashes do way more damage than punches

[graceful quartz]

You need 2 Sentinel Batteries to unlock it in Fortress of Doom

[storm eagle]

yep I think precisely 100

[half hollow]

it takes like 2 dashes to stagger a zombie i think so you can just dash instead

[elder raft]

but then you got the arachnotrons and cacodemons that also are in this level

[half hollow]

pray

[elder raft]

lmao

[austere bronze]

can't unlock the pistol via console anymore+dashes are unlocked in the second level

[half hollow]

dementia

[halcyon atlas]

hey has anyone found a way to correct the aspect ratio for ultra wide screen in eternal (after the later patches in 2023 onward)? the Flawless widescreen fix no longer works after like 2022 and doesnt appear the person who made it is doing a new version

[nocturne moon]

hi gangalang not too long ago i got doom eternal on console and i need tips for cultist base plz

[proven granite]

KORL!

[nocturne moon]

hi

[proven granite]

Sorry you brought out my inner Rick Grimes

[nocturne moon]

oh

[proven granite]

I don’t have any specific tips for you, unless you have specific questions

[nocturne moon]

dies

[proven granite]

Don’t die then

[nocturne moon]

uhhuhhuhhhh

how beat whiplash

[austere bronze]

in the early game you don't have as many tools to fall back on, so the fundamentals become even more important along with maximizing the utility of everything

[proven granite]

Sticky bombs are good

Grenades as well, don’t forget them

[austere bronze]

so you'll want to always destroy weakpoints and heavily focus on your movement

[nocturne moon]

thank you gng

[proven granite]

I think ice bomb is the most effective against whiplashes

[void delta]

Rocket launcher does wonders to them

Aim for the ground around them tho, its easier than hitting them directly

[real holly]

you can easily kill a Mancubus by freezing them and using the auto shotgun weapon mod

and in the pit, never forget to use the unlimited supply of carcasses to instantly kill Mancubi or Whiplashes, just shoot them once and they'll fly in the appropriate direction to instantly kill the target

[nocturne moon]

thank you guys for the tips

[real holly]

whiplashes will be instantly killed by a single "lock on burst" from the rockets too

[wind pasture]

Can someone help me with the battlefield trophys?

[frozen flame]

I'mma get a haircut

Hair be blocking the way how I play the game

[austere bronze]

if my hair has ever gotten in the way i just pull it back and put my headset over it lol

[tall canyon]

Hello

[soft gull]

there's events?

[distant wolf]

Is Spicy Demons discord still available? The link isn't working

[storm eagle]

It is, not sure what would prevent it from working for you though

[distant wolf]

Well I tested out link on app and says link is invalid or expired

Found out they probably disabled the invite at main menu for Spicy Demons discord and did tried open in-game few times

[trim nest]

Hello dear ppl this is a very imprtent matter what is the best mission the the three doom games(eternal darkages 2016

[real holly]

what

[wind radish]

Anybody tryna play battlemode on ps5 im tryna get the platinum?

[umbral ember]

Pb rocket pb rocket pb rocket

Im telling you

Lock on burst will be youe savior

Whiplashes? Gone

[gaunt pelican]

WTF my headset is so ahh rn dies after 2 nanoseconds

[nocturne moon]

i got my glorious king super shotgun 🥹

meathook my goat

[olive solar]

https://youtu.be/PL9CQ7rPNMc

[real holly]

Taras Nabad Master Level

[austere bronze]

huh?

[idle adder]

Hey, looking for people to obtain multtiplayerr achievements, i fucking hatte muulltiplayer achievements why can't theey just not do them

[fringe torrent]

Gotta get people to play it somehow

[idle adder]

If you need achievements to make people playing it there's probably something wrong with your gamemode smh
Just hope someday when serrvverss will be downed that related achievements will be removed
I just wonder how people waanting to 100% feel like when prattically everyone has left the main game, and even fewer people pplaying matchmaking

2016 first in mind

[fringe torrent]

I mean a lot of people don't look at multiplayer modes honestly. I get adding in an achievement or two to get people to try it. But id Software's franchises have a history for adding ridiculous multiplayer achievements; Quake 4 and Wolfenstein both have 1000+ hours estimated to 100% them, via TrueAchievements

[mossy cloud]

Hey can someone gives combo ps4 pls

[idle adder]

I understand but i doesn't mean it should stay that way

[fringe torrent]

No yeah I'm not defending it

If anything I'm saying they've been doing this for far too long

[idle adder]

Yep 🙂
Nonsense

[ripe dust]

Ñ

[drowsy wedge]

EKRAVOL

[half hollow]

games dont ever remove their multiplayer locked achievements when the servers get shut down so

[fringe torrent]

Rayman Legends did it at least

[regal island]

I started Doom eternal

It's incredible I can't believe I never played it before

[tender pawn]

I think i can help you, just add me :)

[idle adder]

Thx bro 😳
I can helpp you too iyw

[real holly]

maybe one day I'll be able to do multiplayer achievements

coordinate with others

[idle adder]

go make a groupp 🙂

3 of uss

[tender pawn]

i already have them dont worry

OH FR WE NEED 3 PEOPLE

[tender pawn]

do you need help also? join us if thats the case

[idle adder]

we might havvee someething
and thx for wasting time forr somoene else plleasure 🤣

[real holly]

I'd be only available tomorrow, I'd hate to keep y'all waiting

[idle adder]

we will find the time

[tender pawn]

we usually dont get all the multiplayer achievements in the same day

😭 200 kills

[idle adder]

availiable tonight

200 kills as a slayer or demon ?.

[tender pawn]

both

[idle adder]

slayyer will be easier right ?

[tender pawn]

actually harder

[tender pawn]

(total of 200 kills)

[idle adder]

Ca'nt we just makee a group oof 3 and the slayer kill one then wait for spawn ?

anyway iyw to play just dm me 🙂

[tender pawn]

yeah i forgot we were talking about the achievements

[real holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075620182615142401/1460709153864552573/Screenshot_20260113-155623.Steam.png?ex=6967e6e8&is=69669568&hm=88a90eb4d8d90dac6c2ed4f2e5d3b173f58aefbcc8478fbae9dc455c9c1a744d&

on steam, these are the ones related to multiplayer

[idle adder]

yes indeed

[real holly]

[idle adder]

u scaring me bro 🥀

[real holly]

hardest one seems to be "Fight Like Hell" bc like, unless the Slayer's healing alot its gonna be tough to do that one quick

200 kills seems achievable bc demons can revive

[idle adder]

yeah waaaaaay to much

[tender pawn]

its the 200 kills one, you will get all the other achievements before 200 kills

[real holly]

yeah

fair, but i think if we keep reviving demons we should be able to do it sort of quickly

[idle adder]

added you @tender pawn

[tender pawn]

can i add you cobblestone mcqueen?

[real holly]

sure

[tender pawn]

oki, im free all day today (basically until around midnight/1 am gmt -3)

[real holly]

i won't be available until tomorrow

[idle adder]

nice 🙂
i'm in france sso ill say i can pplay for around 4 hourrs tonight

[tender pawn]

ok

since we are only 2 tonight i invited another friend to help us, if he accepts i will dm you

[idle adder]

thx 🙂

[candid drum]

I got too beat the ancient gods part 2

i see where the complaints came from lol but it still fun

[proven granite]

Exactly right? It’s a ton of fun

[brisk void]

Hi guys, really dumb question. Does eternal on ps5 have a mod browser for user made content

[astral hamlet]

nope, it doesn't

[umbral ember]

Soooo

How did you do the last secret on taras

The one in the chute

[astral hamlet]

enable chrono strike and use the time slow to get the jump right

[umbral ember]

Hm

Ok

So inconvenient

This secret

[real holly]

tag 2 can be fun for newer players since its more forgiving thanks to the Hammer, but there's nothing wrong with enjoying easier difficulties

if i ever play tag 2 i ignore the Hammer entirely for an actual semblance of a challenge

except for Dark Lord, there I need it

[proven granite]

Now that is a much more positive way to put your opinion, well done

[real holly]

wish it's new demons weren't so ass but oh well

at least Reclaimed Earth has good arena design and the other stages have the occasional well made arenas, like the world spear one right after u get the hammer

[proven granite]

This guy’s just trolling at this point, I can tell

[real holly]

@austere bronze do u think any of the Immora arenas have like, decent design

[proven granite]

I’m right behind you IRL

[real holly]

World Spear legitimately only has the one after the hammer and the one with the gore nest encounter

[candid drum]

Idk why i hate the hammer

Like the sword was so bad ass and i barely got too use it

[real holly]

the hammer also like

literally doesn't work as a weapon? Why can't i hit demons with it? Wack em like thor does to his enemies

you'd think mr "I've killed billions of demons" would gladly use a hammer to wack em

he used the gladiators own melee weapons to crush it's skull lol

[tight prawn]

Hey guys...

[drowsy wedge]

hello

[austere bronze]

escalation encounter and the one at the end where the dark lord escapes on a ship

[austere bronze]

why?

[real holly]

yeah thought so

the escalation encounter has one jump panel u can abuse to have like infinite airtime lol

[austere bronze]

wouldn't that be the same with virtually any jump pad?
you'll also always run into the issue of "staying in one place bad"

[real holly]

yeah fair

but it does like provide some safe place momentarily

cause Eternal demons that can't aim when the Slayers mid air

[austere bronze]

yeah i mean the purpose of launch pads is to launch you

[chilly epoch]

anyone free for battlemode achievements? need one more

[white sentinel]

I love doom eternal

[fringe torrent]

Don't we all

[soft gull]

yet another doom slayer account

[austere bronze]

yea, same, needa play it more

[real holly]

yeah cause u SUCK at it!!!

[austere bronze]

something like that

[queen badger]

@chilly epoch still need help?

[left needle]

i love this game sm

[hushed palm]

i do too but i havent played it in forever bc i did literally everything and i got burnt out by the end

[queen badger]

If anyone want to boost trophies, just add psn craazy405

[austere bronze]

you should try mods if you're on pc then, unless you're still burnt out ofc

[hushed palm]

i played kaiser and delta campaign

i like to use the offical launcher so i dont gotta mess with nexus

[austere bronze]

there exists way more mods

much harder ones (and better ones imo) too

[hushed palm]

i know i was js thinking of like full campaigns

whats some good single level ones

when im ready to come back to eternal

i played this one like master level remix thing of episode 1 from 93 it was pretty cool

[nocturne moon]

i live off of doom eternal

its my life support

[austere bronze]

all of saleem's stuff is really good, i really rnjoyed his master level version of the graveyard arena

his levels are also balanced in difficulty, which is nice

[harsh musk]

https://mods.bethesda.net/en/doometernal/details/893f1ebe-dfba-499a-b378-160a22c0c347/Tormented_Earth
https://mods.bethesda.net/en/doometernal/details/09cd90f0-e21f-4533-9dec-0a6329d08b71/Challenger_Series__01

[thorn osprey]

people please revive battle mode 😭😭

I miss it and tried to get back on and it was quite active when I played a couple months ago but now I can’t find a single match

[storm eagle]

lol you really think this is a good level for the average player? Be real.

I watched Murican and idk play this and you know better than to troll

[chilly epoch]

Yeah but I'm on PC

[queen badger]

Theres no crossplay?

[scenic axle]

Yeah it’s light work fr fr

[real holly]

i legitimately wonder what the idea with master levels "classic mode" was

i get it, but like, jesus man who's gonna kill all these super heavies with the garbage at disposal early in the level

especially on higher difficulties, i 100% the MLs but classic mode? Im too young to die, thank god they don't force u to go for more than that to get the ML 100%

[astral hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[hushed palm]

i remember checking out graveyard when i was new to PC eternal oll chdck it out now sre if i can beat it

[hushed palm]

i'll look into these too!

[regal island]

What are the best mod maps for Doom Eternal? I can't really find anything

[scenic axle]

What difficulty are you looking for? There's plenty of great maps but they vary greatly in difficulty

[regal island]

Harder maps I would say, nothing insanely difficult but I'm looking for a challenge

[scenic axle]

how hard compared to the master levels?

Hell's abyss is fun and a good difficulty i'd say

saleems graveyard is great

Infernum is on the easier side for custom levels but has a ton of cool custom geo and a custom layout

[regal island]

I'll check those out then, thanks!

[austere bronze]

don't😭

[hushed palm]

hey man i've played some cruel classic maps oll try them then see if i wanna die 😭

[austere bronze]

tormented earth is reasonable on some level, but generally considered the hardest or one of the hardest full level mods (if you're doing the unbalanced version)

but challenger serious #01 is just no

[hushed palm]

i'll try unbalanced and if it's too much then balanced

[austere bronze]

even removes the entire super shotgun

[hushed palm]

WHAT no thank you..

that's my baby in every game

[austere bronze]

good luck! if you can get past the first real arena (after the possessed marauder in the halway) without too much trouble, you'll be able to do the entire level

[hushed palm]

possessed marauders aren't too bad, i'm just very patient with them

[viscid marten]

A FELLOW KAIJU ENJOYER

GREETINGS SISTER

[hushed palm]

YAYYY

[viscid marten]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-gif-18447324

[austere bronze]

ngl, the possessed marauder encounter is one of the places where i have the biggest risk of dying in the entire level
not cause it's the hardest (far from), but because i feel like no matter how good you get it's always so volatile

[hushed palm]

my big question for the map is it a NG+ thing or just a NG one?

[astral hamlet]

You get your full loadout

With the hammer

[austere bronze]

yeah

you get the hammer right before the marauder

[viscid marten]

Tell me, have you played 2016?

[hushed palm]

okay cool i can manage then, loadout through like super gore nest i struggle with but after that level of gear i'm chilling

[hushed palm]

i've played all of them

[astral hamlet]

Does the hammer actually extend the falter window of the possessed marauder? I’ve never tried

[viscid marten]

I got 2016 and beat it not too long ago. Like, late last year

[hushed palm]

not by a whole lot

[hushed palm]

whatd you think? i really like it and just all of the games

[frozen zealot]

Kkfkffk

[viscid marten]

I love it. I can’t wait to beat it on nightmare(beat it on HMP)

[hushed palm]

i have the platinum for it on playstation

[viscid marten]

I also have this other game called Dawn Of The Monsters

[frozen zealot]

Doom c'est trop cool

[viscid marten]

Which is a KAIJU GAEM! rheheehhhehe

[hushed palm]

i wanna get gigabash and all the godzilla dlcs and the gamera one

[viscid marten]

I have Godzilla battle line

(Better clash royale)

[hushed palm]

if only i likes the clash royale gameplay loop 😿

i have save the earth for my ps2

[viscid marten]

https://tenor.com/view/school-of-rock-jack-black-dewey-finn-salute-respect-gif-17915243

[storm eagle]

#general chat please

[hushed palm]

we should probably take this to general lol

yeah called it

[austere bronze]

the hammer extends it like normally

which does make it much easier

[hushed palm]

i live the hammer, i just wish they made the upgrades the escalation rewards instead of it being skins

more reason to do them

[austere bronze]

the hammer would need like a rework and a big nerg

[hushed palm]

yeah, but TAG2 was rushed due to them wanting to ship it within the year

covid sucked

[chilly epoch]

unfortunately not

[scenic axle]

I just want to make sure you know what you’re in for

Have you played the vanilla master levels?

[hushed palm]

yus i 100%ed them all

[scenic axle]

Can you complete them without frequent deaths?

I wouldn’t try really difficult ones unless you can

[hushed palm]

yeah i can clear most encounters either first try or with like 2 deaths

soooometimes i get stuck on one section until i figure out the stray

[simple holly]

Oh that’s Crazy I didn’t know they made it a sticker

[elfin abyss]

yay i just beat doom eternal for the first time :D

[hushed palm]

yay!

[grand laurel]

Hell yeah

[grand sedge]

w

[stray gulch]

Sup

[hoary cedar]

Can anyone gimme some advice for beating the campign in ultra nightmare

[proven granite]

Don’t die? Kind of asked for that

[rapid linden]

Start another save, and finish the level perfectly on nightmare. Once you think you are ready, start the ultra nightmare level

[hoary cedar]

another thing how do i consistently change weapons cuz im using the numbers

5 supershotgun 6 balista 7 chaingun 4 rpg 3 plasma rifie 2 heavy cannon

[proven granite]

You can use that, the mouse scroll wheel, or there is another key bind you can set to swap back and forth between the last weapon you had out

[hoary cedar]

ik but like i wanna change weapons very fast and because the space of the keybinds i need to press are so far apart its so difficult to swap with the gun i want to use

like from heavy cannon to balista

or plasma to chaingun

[proven granite]

Those are the only three options, the weapon wheel is not fast at all

[hoary cedar]

damn it

[proven granite]

It does suck to try and reach the 8 key with your pinky finger, I feel you on that

[hoary cedar]

nah word

[real holly]

practice each level on nightmare, try to beat them without reaching low health once twice

thats what I did to get UN

by doing this you learn the levels and force yourself to form a comfortable strategy

[austere bronze]

they are not the 3 only options

you absolutely want to rebind your weapons, the default binds are really bad

[hoary cedar]

How do

I’m alr used to the default

[austere bronze]

bind your weapons close to yout movement keys, but don't have any anythinh on the key right above forward (W for most people)

[austere bronze]

go into settings and change binds

[austere bronze]

they are possible to use, but if you want to do any kind of quick swapping, it'll be worth it to change binds

[hoary cedar]

Alr

[austere bronze]

do you know that you can change your binds?
(meant to reply to your reaching for number 8 message)

[half hollow]

then just get good with default idk

not sure what advice youre looking for

[hoary cedar]

Best info I’ve ever heard

Bravo

[opal edge]

I GOT ALL THE WEAPONS LETS GOOO

[frank ginkgo]

I just fuly bought the game!

Ďòñť worry I saved up money not a j*b

[gaunt pelican]

I JUST BEATED MAIN CAMPAIGN ON NM

[turbid maple]

yeah quickswapping is integral to the gameplay especially as the game gets harder

i think the game recommends you to do it in arc complex (level 7)

[chilly epoch]

does anyone want to do battlemode achievements? I'm on PC

[austere bronze]

i wouldn't say quick swaps are integral, but it's still very good to rebind your weapons

[regal island]

Is anyone able to find Battlemode matches anymore?

[balmy ruin]

yes

not many people ever come on at this time of day though, usually a little later

[nocturne pollen]

Yes and no

Towards night (pst) seems to work better

[regal island]

Ah ok

[scenic axle]

They definitely improve your dps a ton but if you are good enough at mobility then you don't need to quickswap, yes it better but its not actually that important

[umbral ember]

Wish I could replay slayer gates

[umbral ember]

Yea its def encouraged but not absolutely necessary

[austere bronze]

far from absolutely necessary

better to just learn your arsenal first

[elfin abyss]

hey guys whats the hardest level of the game in yall opinion

[real holly]

the holt

[fringe torrent]

UAC Atlantica cuz if the combat doesn't get me, the impatience will

This level just drags on and on and on and on

[real holly]

it's unarguably a huge level true

much like the other tag 1 stages

i still consider it to be my favorite level in the entire game doe

i think

[elfin abyss]

i mean base game

not dlcs

[real holly]

either cultist base or sentinel prime

my experiences with sentinel prime are odd bc its super easy to reach low health when fighting the gladiator

[faint quartz]

I am having problems getting the mod launcher to start. Every time I boot up Eternal, it just goes straight to the game and skips the launcher. Any tips on how to get it working again?

[naive sable]

Are the 2 add-ons for the game worth getting? I mean i just started playing again and I never realized there was 2 different parts to this game. Is it more story or just like bigger levels with enemies?

[drowsy wedge]

its both

expands on the story and gives new full levels with more demons and weapons

[real holly]

tag 1 is far better, but tag 2 is fun if u turn your brain off ig

[naive sable]

Ah ok that makes sense

[unique abyss]

I'm stuck on Nightmare difficulty. Seriously speaking, what tips should I take? Or is it just "Get gud"?

[austere bronze]

i have a relatively lengthy text of tips if you want that

playing a lot and actively trying to improve will help the most though