doom-eternal

[tame topaz]

Actually unreal that someone thinks 2016 is better balanced than Eternal in any way.

[hardy knoll]

it absolutely is

[astral hamlet]

try 2016 nightmare

see if you have the same opinion

[hardy knoll]

2016 nightmare is easier than base difficulty on eternal

[proven granite]

I think Peachy here needs to lower the difficulty or is playing on console

[astral hamlet]

LMAO

[tame topaz]

I think Peachy here should stop baiting.

It's not even believable.

[proven granite]

Was I right in my assumptions?

[hardy knoll]

I think I want to enjoy the game but can't

[proven granite]

Are you on console?

[hardy knoll]

I'm on pc

[proven granite]

What difficulty?

[hardy knoll]

tho I am playing with a controller

base difficulty

[proven granite]

Well that’s the problem, Eternal has too many controls to properly play on controller

[hardy knoll]

thats def no the issue, considering I can use everything just fine, the issue is the enemy count

[proven granite]

You will never have as much fun without keyboard and mouse

[tame topaz]

This is strictly a skill issue.

[proven granite]

How familiar are you with each demon and their weaknesses?

[tame topaz]

Complaining about too many enemies in a Doom game is like complaining that your steak is too juicy.

[hardy knoll]

Not when it's difficult to kill them

[proven granite]

It’s fun to learn about each enemy and how they work, the combat requires you to use all of the tools you have and exploit weaknesses

[hardy knoll]

I literally have a demon on me every single second, I can't get away and so I get meleed and die very quickly. I can never get close enough for a glory kill meaning I get no health, etc

[proven granite]

Which mission are you on right now?

[hardy knoll]

what weaknesses? literally every time I've used a "weakness" against a demon it takes just as long to kill them as if I did it any other way

[proven granite]

Look at the codexes, it’s pretty explicit

[hardy knoll]

I've tried using the balista on the pain elemental, it still takes forever

the only weakness that has actually worked for me is blood punching the sled for the doom hunters

[proven granite]

Just try and learn keyboard and mouse, maybe play through the first game that way to get used to it

[hardy knoll]

def not doing that.

[proven granite]

Well you’re out of luck and going to continue to struggle

[hardy knoll]

its not cuz of the controller

[proven granite]

Remember what Mick Gordon said, “Change the process, change the outcome.”

[hardy knoll]

it'll literally take me weeks to learn the game on keyboard and mouse

im not doing that

[proven granite]

Do you play any games without controller on PC?

[hardy knoll]

yes, most games I play on keyboard and mouse, but if I learn a game on one, then I struggle to relearn it on another

[proven granite]

Well I don’t really care, DOOM was clearly made with PC controls in mind and Eternal is impossible on controller. I can’t help someone who won’t help themselves.

[hardy knoll]

I couldn't agree that it was "clearly" made with PC controls in mind, it looks like a very console game, and the controls work good on controller.

[proven granite]

Only game you could easily play on console is probably The Dark Ages, but Eternal has things you just can’t do simultaneously with a controller

[hallow rivet]

Ello guys I'm trying to beat the game but the Archville area in taras nabad is pretty hard and I'm a lil stuck

[proven granite]

Always go for the archvile first, use crucible if possible

[hardy knoll]

pretty sure thats exactly where i am

it sucks

[hallow rivet]

Don't have it yet 🙁

[hallow rivet]

Ikr

[proven granite]

Oh yeah that’s right

You’ve got to stun the archvile with grenades, blood punch, as much damage as possible

Don’t let it spawn more demons

[hardy knoll]

ah, no I'm on the next fight

close to uninstalling, i hate this

[hallow rivet]

I got him staggered I think that what it's called but these demons keep blocking my way and one time I was so close to glory killing him but it made me punch him instead when it literally was glowing orange and blue must be a glitch or smth

[proven granite]

Also I always equip the runes for long range glory kills, longer stagger, and speed boost after glory kills

[hallow rivet]

Might try that then maybe idk

[proven granite]

You can watch my video on Taras Nabad on YouTube if it helps, link to my channel in my Discord bio

[hallow rivet]

K

[sage axle]

Do any of y’all understand “fse,” I saw it on the guide and I have a couple questions

[hardy knoll]

yes yes, I love the enemy that can summon other enemies

too many demons? lets just add more

then lets make sure that they can teleport away so they're impossible to find

such a bright idea

[little moth]

Summoners?

[sage axle]

Use grenades to falter them then hit with lock on burst

[hardy knoll]

no possible, i cant even see them because they teleport away, then they just overrun me with enemies

[sage axle]

Pb+launcher+ballista takes them out pretty fast

[hardy knoll]

god i hate this game

[sage axle]

Rush them immediately, they generally don’t teleport if they’re engaged with you

[hardy knoll]

archvile

[little moth]

Oh

[proven granite]

I mean archvile is the toughest enemy in the game, but it’s still a great game

[hardy knoll]

i do. they don't die. they're just a bullet sponge, like everything else in this game

[sage axle]

And if you constantly falter them with nades/blood punch/lob theh can’t tp

[proven granite]

Says the guy with a Last of Us profile banner

[hardy knoll]

what does that even have to do with anything

[sage axle]

The easiest part of them is that they don’t move much, so they’re really easy to hit with launcher or destroyer blade

Just use nades to falter them

[hardy knoll]

don't move much? thats literally all they do, teleport around

[proven granite]

Ever since 2020 game awards DOOM fans kind of have a grudge

[hardy knoll]

who tf cares

[sage axle]

Yeah but their normal movement is really slow and infrequent

They don’t teleport that much if you’re engaged with them

I don’t think they can if they’re on your meathook

[hardy knoll]

i havent seen them move other than their teleport

[proven granite]

Game Awards do kind of suck, but so does the Last of Us

[sage axle]

Exactly

[hardy knoll]

it doesn't, but then again it seems like your brain is the size of a pebble so

[proven granite]

At least DOOM Eternal has fast gameplay is awesome in every way

[proven granite]

Says the guy who can’t kill one archvile

[simple holly]

Why so hostile?

[sage axle]

Also pay attention to WHEN they teleport, you can usually see the direction they go

They won’t go far and they stick out a lot, especially when they put their shield up

I vaguely remember though that you can’t meathook one that’s summoning so just save your dashes for that

[hardy knoll]

why not? hating on my favorite game for zero reason? ik i said that i hate eternal but at least i WANT to enjoy it

[proven granite]

I mean why even come here and complain if you’re not going to take our advice?

[sage axle]

Or break the shield then meathook, blood punch does crazy damage

[hardy knoll]

i have not gotten a single good piece of advice from you

[sage axle]

Like if you want my genuine advice, archviles are one of the easier enemies to deal with but you’re not being very nice or receptive

[proven granite]

It all makes sense if that’s your favorite, you have no good taste for gameplay

[sage axle]

The game gives you a ridiculous amount of options to constantly falter them and keep them from teleporting

[proven granite]

I gave plenty of advice earlier

[hardy knoll]

the gameplay isnt why i like it, its because of its story. i play doom because of the gameplay, not the story

[simple holly]

Holy flame war dude.

Ironic considering we were talking about Arch-Viles.

[sage axle]

That’s quite the pfp

I’m a fan

[proven granite]

I mean even DOOM Eternal has a great story though to be honest

[sage axle]

It does by video game standards but story doesn’t really matter for games

[hardy knoll]

I think it's cool, it's not rlly a great one but it's cool

[proven granite]

Gameplay should be priority number one for video games

[sage axle]

Yeah obviously

I’ll care about story when I play a game with a story worth caring about

[hardy knoll]

there's a lot of different games like that

[sage axle]

No there aren’t

Have you read moby dick?

[hardy knoll]

TLOU, Spiderman, God of War, RDR2, etc

[sage axle]

Yeah exactly. Generic zombie story, generic superhero story, generic revenge story, slightly less generic western

[hardy knoll]

ok so every story thats ever existed is generic

[sage axle]

For video games pretty much, they’re all pretty weak

[hardy knoll]

wow

[sage axle]

Again compare anh of those to moby dick

[hardy knoll]

tf

[proven granite]

Let me simplify my advice options for you. Lower the difficulty, switch to keyboard and mouse, change your runes to the ones I specified, look closer at demon codex entries, go for archvile first and stun it before any summoning

[simple holly]

Okay snob

The games he listed all had critically acclaimed stories

[hardy knoll]

literally the only thing i havent tried is changing to keyboard and mouse (which wont help) and im having just as much trouble

[sage axle]

The standards of “critics” differ between mediums

[simple holly]

They’re all good

[proven granite]

I mean God of War is kind of cool, just has kind of historically inaccurate dialogue and accents

[hardy knoll]

its not just critics, most people agree that they're all very good stories

[sage axle]

Like for example there’s more depth in captain Ahab’s name than in any of the games he mentioned

[simple holly]

You are just incorrect

[sage axle]

Those people have not read moby dick

[hardy knoll]

because nobody fucking cares about moby dick T_T

[simple holly]

And of course video games aren’t gonna stack up to the literary greats

[sage axle]

It’s the most influential work of fiction ever made

[hardy knoll]

that literally basically nobody cares about

[simple holly]

But that doesn’t make them bad

[proven granite]

The Last of Us is pretty boring though, there are only like three zombie varieties and the rest of the story is just mundane human conflict

[sage axle]

No there are games with fine stories, my point is there aren’t any with stories good enough to justify it being the focus of the industry

[simple holly]

Then why is the gaming industry shifting to story telling

[sage axle]

And that’s not just because of weak writing, video games as a medium don’t lend very well to storytelling

[hardy knoll]

it shouldn't be the focus of the industry, it should be the focus of certain devs who want it to be the focus, the first of which comes to mind is NaughtyDog

[sage axle]

Laziness

[simple holly]

I’d say telling a story inside a video game is harder than not telling one

[proven granite]

TDA has the best implementation of video game story I’ve seen

[hardy knoll]

telling good stories is difficult

[sage axle]

It’s much, much easier to make some thrown together “depth” or “sympathy” than to make an actual innovative gameplay

[sage axle]

Telling very, very, very, very good stories is difficult

Actually making something with new and legitimately good gameplay is much harder than the pretty basic stuff game devs make

[proven granite]

You have to balance cutscenes with gameplay, otherwise players get bored from doing nothing

[simple holly]

Theyre not perfect. Nothing is, not even Moby Dick.

[sage axle]

Moby dick is

[hardy knoll]

depends on the player and how invested they are in the story

[sage axle]

The first hundred pages are a dedication to the main character’s introduction, that’s what separates something like that from a video game, that’s how complex its characters are

[proven granite]

The Dark Ages has a perfect balance of cutscenes that don’t drag on too long, with emotional moments and epic visuals

[simple holly]

Clearly it’s not, because not everybody likes it. Peachy said that “nobody cares” about Moby Dick.

Therefore it’s not perfect

[sage axle]

Peachy hasn’t read it

[proven granite]

The Last of Us is just as boring as The Walking Dead

[sage axle]

And it’s disliked by people with bad attention spans

[simple holly]

Don’t get me wrong, it’s great. But not perfect.

[sage axle]

There’s not much action and it literally ends with the captain failing to catch the whale

That’s the whole idea of the book, every single character and the dynamics between them is done with so much detail it’s staggering

[hardy knoll]

the Telltale TWD games have pretty good stories, TLOU games are a masterclass in storytelling, the shows for each are just meh

[proven granite]

Yeah that story didn’t age well because killing animals especially whales is reprehensible

[hardy knoll]

I think it's disliked by people who just have no interest in reading the book because it isn't their taste

[proven granite]

I was talking about the game, I’ve never seen the show

[sage axle]

A good amount of video games completely lack allusions, symbolism, metaphors, etc, which makes a lot of them pretty shallow.

[patent stream]

This is an absolutely horrid take. But also you are all straying away from doom eternal chat and should move to #general

[hardy knoll]

this is the stupidest argueent I think I've ever had, you have to be ragebaiting

[proven granite]

I mean real life is also lacking those things, so it’s not a big deal

[hardy knoll]

imma just dip, cuz no way is this a real argument T_T

[simple holly]

Now that I think about it, yeah, I probably fell for bait.

[proven granite]

I don’t even know what that dude’s opinion is anymore

Well there’s the problem, bringing real life religion into this

Doesn’t the rules specifically say not to talk about that?

[scenic axle]

If you are still struggling you should change the difficulty or change what you’re doing, cause obviously it’s not working. Just doing the same things over and over isn’t going to work so you need to change up how you play. Use all your utilities instantly off cooldown, use the meat hook and dashing to stay in the air as much as possible, this messes with enemy targeting and makes it hard to hit you. Don’t ever hard focus one enemy and stay in one spot, or even general area, move in circles around the arena. If you’d like, you could send some gameplay and I can give you some tips on how to get better! I think eternal is a great game, but I’ve had similar frustrations at points, just feeling like a certain spot is impossible. If you can change your your strategies you’ll get better, and maybe you can enjoy the game. If you can’t, that’s ok, doom 2016 is also great there’s other games you can play.

[storm eagle]

I don't agree Peachy that 2016 Nightmare is less difficult than Eternal on a lower difficulty. I get that the game is frustrating at first. But if you're having this bad of a time with it and not willing to take advice from the many seasoned players in here, there's not much left to be said other than keep practicing or stop playing it. Hitting the weak points especially in areas with more enemies does make a difference than if you don't. If you're getting trapped then I would practice your movement. And keep practicing. It takes awhile.

[storm eagle]

Yes

And @sage axle Keep the preaching out of the server please.

[proven granite]

Only preaching the good word of the Wraiths here

[jovial coral]

how about playing the game in lower difficulty 🙂

we have no tips for skill issue 🤫

[pliant owl]

i’ll be so honest with you ultra nightmare on controller is a torturous challenge and eternal is just literally easier to play on mouse and keyboard. most bread and butter eternal strats are almost impossible to perform on controller 😭

[storm eagle]

I know this comment isn't for me but want to say I agree with ya. I think they are playing on Hurt me plenty or ultra-violence though. But yeah I know what you mean, and I agree that it is much more difficult on controller. I struggled pretty badly on my Playstation playing Eternal, then when I got my PC it was about 75% easier. That being said, I know several console players who do quite well playing Eternal. Ig it just depends.

Also, welcome to the server 🙂

[pliant owl]

controller is objectively worse to play but in the end it really is possible to beat the entire game on controller (i did it on the easiest difficulty) i can’t really be mad about controller too much

eternal is still a fairly challenging game overall anyway, one of the harder games i’ve ever played and im a doom superfan

[storm eagle]

I struggled so badly on the easiest difficulty lol. And now I play Nightmare on pc easily.

[pliant owl]

i may or may not hate tag 2 due to the enemy variety going from okay to deranged

[storm eagle]

You're not alone in that at all, haha

[proven granite]

Wait what? Enemy variety is only ever good!

[pliant owl]

we went from fairly fun challenging enemies to genuinely gut wrenching enemies that force you to use the weapon mods that you know you don’t use often 😂

especially the ghost

[storm eagle]

Cursed prowler has entered the chat

lolol

[storm eagle]

Ghost? Ohh the spirit yeah

[pliant owl]

I almost quit tag 2 cause of the ghost that can just insert itself into enemies and turn it into a borderline tank

[proven granite]

Cursed prowler is a cool and unique enemy variant that mixes things up

[storm eagle]

[pliant owl]

the rest of the enemies are honestly not bad at all, pretty cool

the crucible would’ve been GREAT for the spirit 😆

[jovial coral]

Mhhhhh, are sure about dat broudda

[storm eagle]

agree to disagree friend

heh

[proven granite]

But back to this, I think there are some actions like aiming, jumping, weapon swapping, and equipment launching that can be simultaneous on PC but impossible to do the same on controller

[pliant owl]

weapon swapping on controller is a nightmare

[proven granite]

Yes, it’s a fun challenge if you aren’t hit

[storm eagle]

Oh definitely

I can't do that shit on controller

[proven granite]

And I like having more enemy variants, hope we get a bunch more in TDA DLC

[storm eagle]

plus I like some tech and quickswapping fast and that's hard on console

[pliant owl]

i literally played im too young to dir cause i was on controller

[storm eagle]

saaame

and I was bad at that difficulty haha

[pliant owl]

on pc i played hurt me plenty then upped it to ultra violence, challenging but i did it

[jovial coral]

I mean, I see what you saying, but the only blood punch thing can kill while you cursed, it really bad, you might blood punch another demons by mistake will end up waste your blood punches

[rustic forum]

https://tenor.com/view/shinji-shinji-ikari-club-penguin-penguin-dancing-club-penguin-dance-gif-24029283

39 kills left to 100% and I couldn’t find a match for a whole hour

[pliant owl]

once i beat tda on ultra violence im jumping to ultra nightmare to see how far I can get

[storm eagle]

Hey, no harm in it. Give yourself a challenge

[rustic forum]

Try it hombre

[night egret]

yew can dew it

[rustic forum]

I belive in you gang

[proven granite]

Hear that console players? Your limited performance is due to a hardware issue, not a skill issue

[storm eagle]

Eh sometimes it's a skill issue lol

[proven granite]

Playing on console is a handicap

[storm eagle]

Most often it's an unwilling to take anybody's advice or helpful tips and being stubborn issue

[proven granite]

Not to mention the awful weapon wheel that you can still be hit while using it

[pliant owl]

tda is like almost very controller friendly except for the weapon wheel but that’s not that bad

[patent stream]

(I can do all of that magic on a controller)

[proven granite]

I think The Dark Ages would be the only tolerable one on console, yes

[storm eagle]

👀

[night egret]

I wanna see someone play it on the Donkey Kong bongo drum controller

[patent stream]

I did 2016 UN on switch
Did eternal tag 1 on UN with controller

[storm eagle]

the pain

[patent stream]

Controller def not the issue

[proven granite]

Sounds like Hell to me

[night egret]

my brain is the issue

[pliant owl]

i will play 2016 again soon Im gonna play the pc version probably and will play on my handheld

[proven granite]

You probably hate poor Samur

[patent stream]

Actually don’t mind his fight

[proven granite]

Steamdeck?

[patent stream]

I also beat doom eternal on touchscreen 👀

So controller definitely is good

[pliant owl]

ROG Ally

i have linux on it though not windows

[patent stream]

I should replay eternal soon

I have it on switch

Yep redownloading I want to do a play through

[storm eagle]

Oooo I wanna see a recording if ya can/want

some clips

I love watching any Doom gameplay

[patent stream]

Unfortunately eternal doesn’t support clips on switch

[storm eagle]

Ohhh I got excited and skipped over the Switch part you said above lol

[proven granite]

I find myself just watching my own DOOM videos on my YouTube channel sometimes, it really is fun to watch

[storm eagle]

🥀

It's nice, right? I do the same, not on YT but just to myself or with friends

[austere bronze]

you could get in the realm of where some of the better pc players are even with console
controllers are definitely worse than mkb, but all the strats on pc are possible there too

often controller players are almost discouraged from even trying to get good, which is unfortunately

[austere bronze]

(when i say "better" players, i don't mean like the top 20% or whatever, more like top 0,5% of pc players or something)

[austere bronze]

yes

in eternal there are 2 types of bring-up speeds: slow and fast. weapons with a slow bring-up includes the rocket launcher, ballista, conbat shotgun have a slow bring-up, while the rest is fast. all weapons however have the same bring-down time, buut a couple have a delay for swapping away after you fire the weapon (these are the super shotgun, rocket launcher, ballista, combat shotgun).

fse, when applied, gives a slow bring-up weapon a fast bring-up speed, and allows you to entirely skip the delay for swapping away.

applying fse to a weapon can be done in tons of ways, even via really obscure ways, but the most common is just shooting the pb then immediately swapping into the weapon you wanna apply fse to

you can't wait like 2 swconds before firing the receiver of fse

you can apply fse to the rocket launcher and combat shotgun, and the csg can even transfer it to the rocket launcher if you shoot a sticky or don't shoot at all

(ballista and ssg can technically receive fse)

[austere bronze]

i hate watching gameplay if it's my own, but it's the gameplay i watch the most (to improve)😭

watching sylar and sometimes murican is fun though

i watched murican's entire 1 hour playthrough of tag1 cause i was bored not too long ago😭

[tired kraken]

kind of but not enough of a handicap to make the game horrible to play

[fringe torrent]

Not everyone spends 10 seconds thinking of what to do with the weapon wheel man

I just open it up, clickly flick my right stick to the weapon, and close it. Takes a fraction of a second

[storm eagle]

Quit arguing in here please. We're not going to have a repeat of yesterday.

[arctic narwhal]

[fringe torrent]

It's not really an argument moreso than a debate but you're the boss. Maybe the wording of "you problem" came off as a bit harsh

[celest trench]

Rip and Tear!!

[proven granite]

I never have used the weapon wheel at all, but I’ve seen others use it that way in videos

[fringe torrent]

You can grow out of it in like 5 hours of playtime, at least in my experience, so I think they're just the loud minority

Even then you can bind weapons to controller buttons

[real holly]

i never once used the fabled weapon wheel

[soft gull]

I do it more for eternal than the other games just because I'm switching to the further weapons more than I otherwise would

[austere bronze]

you can rebind weapons

if you're on pc, you really wanna avoid it

[real holly]

me pressing keys on my keyboard like it's a piano (Im comboing a singular poor frozen Baron)

SSG BALLISTA BLOOD PUNCH PB ROCKET PB SSG

The Baron of hell: Im tired boss

[austere bronze]

that's when you lock in on the combos the hardest tho!

[real holly]

or the fabled i forgot how you call it but basically reload cancel or something with the bloodpunch and i give like 4 consecutive back to back ssg shots (with two or one bloodpunches)

its way easier to do with the pb doe

punch cancel I think?

[real holly]

it legitimately trivializes many things in the early game

i swear once you learn this the micro missles become worthless

[sage axle]

So essentially, using pb between each swap makes each weapon have the same swap speed, and removes a delay for after firing?

[austere bronze]

for the combat shotgun and rocket, yes

you can maintain fse with punch cancels

[austere bronze]

yessirr

[sage axle]

One more question

I’ve noticed that on things like lob or sticky bombs, there’s a delay before you can switch after firing them, is that the same delay you were talking about before?

[austere bronze]

exactly!

but for lob, since you don't have fse when you've fired it, the delay is still there

to cancel the delay after ballista shots or lob, your best bet is to mod swap cancel

[sage axle]

What I’ve done in the past (and I have no idea if this actually works) is punch immediately after shooting lob except I’m not sure if that actually makes it any faster

What is mod swap canceling?

[austere bronze]

ye that works, you can even cancel the lob before it's complete (making it only fire 1 or 2 rockets) by punching

[sage axle]

That’s how I’ve always dealt with whiplashes

[austere bronze]

when you press the mod swap button and immediately the bind of another weapon, if done correctly you'll just swap to that other weapon

[sage axle]

Two rockets staggers them and I don’t have to actually hit them

[austere bronze]

this can cancel delays, such as the one after firing the lob or ballista

but it also transfers the bring up speed of the first weapon into the second

and it slightly delays alt fire until you swap to the heavy cannon, meathook, mantle, or stop swapping weapons

[nova drift]

Just finished Mars Core Master Level Blind on Ultra Violence, somehow got it deathless but my god is that a good level. And ofc no super weapons

[kindred pebble]

how did you beat that Level Blind man Thats So Impressive

[nova drift]

Idk either, had a lot of close calls but I somehow did it

Mainly me learning how to abuse being airborn so I could avoid quite a lot of attacks and spam PB Rocket Ballista for good dmg

[kindred pebble]

Did you Use Headphones Cause i Dont think I Can Beat it Blindfolded

[nova drift]

By blind it means it was my first attempt XD

[kindred pebble]

Thats So Impressive Dodging and Hitting Your Shots While being Blind Man thats So Cool

[nova drift]

Fr fr

[kindred pebble]

you Beat it Blind on your First Attempt?!!?

[nova drift]

I guess you can say your pfp is Perfect
Perfect? "Because, Prince. Like a soon-to-be broken man once said, You're either perfect... or you're not me."

[kindred pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/cell-perfect-cell-hyper-realistic-hyper-realistic-cell-hyper-realistic-perfect-cell-gif-1635843172149104674

[real holly]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-fire-writing-perfect-writing-perfect-cell-writing-writing-perfect-cell-gif-17299771935638990179

[fierce pollen]

Perfect Cell Lo-Fi when?

[clever void]

so ummm, why is there a bundle that says "deluxe edition" but has TAG 1 and TAG 2 + year one pass which the pass itself already coimes with TAG1/2

am i missing something?

[patent stream]

Eternal and its "standalone" dlc made a mess at launch

Thats effectively letting you know you "could" download the dlc without the campaign

But it downloads the full file size regardless

[clever void]

so if i buy the pass its enough to unlock everything related to ancient gods and the master levels right? i already have the base game

[obtuse tartan]

I think this would be the right place to put it, if not let me know.
I want to make this VERY clear, what I am trying to build is a COSPLAY and NOT a real weapon, (I’ve had issues with that bit)

I’ve just been going in circles so I thought I might see if someone here had an answer… I’m trying to make a cosplay of the doomguy/doomslayer from doom eternal and I’ve gotten stuck on the doomblade (the blade mounted on his left forearm) I have ZERO engineering experience so this would likely implode immediately. I have rough drafts but I don’t have pic perms so if you’re interested in trying to help, just dm me please.

[patent stream]

The pass should unlock the tags yes

[subtle stone]

Does anyone use Xbox to play doom eternal?

[strong whale]

Guys I got doom eternal for christmas

[storm eagle]

awesome!

[strong whale]

Yess

[storm eagle]

Let us know what you think of it when you start playing!

[soft gull]

why is there a barcode in your name

also hell yeah

[strong whale]

Slipknot thing

[strong whale]

I've already played a bit lol im about to get the super shotgun, so. Far I really like the gameplay lol

[mortal grail]

Hopped back into the game after playing 2016 and TDA and man, I feel like i lost my rhythm

But does anyone else agree that relearning the doom dance is part of the fun?

[kindred pebble]

im actually so curious on what happened that made you specify that its a cosplay and not a weapon LMAO

[patent stream]

You can look at mock assassin creed hidden blade builds

It works on a very very similar principle

[obtuse tartan]

Any suggestions on where to look? I thought about that but couldn’t find anything great..

[dim raptor]

Js not a popup during the doom hunter boss that says
"sentinel armor
Greatly reduces damage
Does not affect progression"

Wat dat mean

[austere bronze]

you can take 80% reduced damage just during that boss with it

[dim raptor]

Ive never seen it b4, is it cause I wot dying🙏

[strong whale]

Husker mentioned

[dim raptor]

I was never here

[strong whale]

Sadness

I like husk

[dim raptor]

[umbral ember]

How easy is it to get rusty at this game

[little moth]

I am and last I played it was 2 days ago

So easy

[austere bronze]

if anything you'd probably improve if you don't play for 2 days

[austere bronze]

i don't think it's particularly easy at all if you have some sort of foundational muscle memory

like, for your skills to genuinely deteriorate and for it to not just feel weird for half an hour, you'd have to stop playing for many months

and even then you regain lost skills much quicker than when you first get them

[ripe nymph]

hello

[gaunt pelican]

how to reduce the size of weapons in doom eternal

my fov is at the max i also have tried hand_fovScale etc. and it doesnt work why?

[austere bronze]

because the command is hands instead of hand

[gaunt pelican]

also have tried that

[austere bronze]

are you on a modded version of the game?

[gaunt pelican]

nope

[austere bronze]

then that's the issue

you need to be on the official mod portal or have run the mod injector at least once

[gaunt pelican]

I have ran it still doesnt work

do you need to create the mod folder or is there naturally

in the local files

[austere bronze]

there doesn't exist a mod folder by default

[gaunt pelican]

oh ok thx

[scenic axle]

I’ve found that after switching from playing almost daily to playing a couple times a month I’ve gotten significantly better 💀

[quartz oracle]

is there any better skin than golden bounty lord in doom eternal aside from the burning skin one thats from deluxe edition

[real holly]

basically what happened to me mixed with TDA playthrough, i was literally trying to Parry the Marauders strike dawg 💔 and not dashing one bit

[fervent surge]

ok settle a debate between me and a friend: are spirits bad? how would you fix/change them?

[fringe torrent]

@austere bronze This one's for you

[austere bronze]

hahah thanks

[austere bronze]

spirits are good, but not flawless

i think the biggest issue is how they make demons a bit more boring ti fight because you just kinda lock-on spam them

[fringe torrent]

And they suck in early Horde Mode

[austere bronze]

that's moreso horde mode's fault

[fervent surge]

that’s my opinion as well, though the microwave beam stuff is really annoying imo

[fringe torrent]

Still contributes to my distaste for the enemy :]

[austere bronze]

mmh yeah, i'm a bit split on that

on one hand i really dislike "forced" usage of weapon mods, but on the other there is actually a reason for it with the spirit, and it really adds to the depth of the enemy

and it's often good to not actively kill the spirit with the mwb, which alleviates the issue

[fringe torrent]

It's not as bad with the Spirit because nobody uses either PR mod otherwise 😌

[fervent surge]

wait how else do you kill it? just let the other demons die and it goes too or???

[fervent surge]

nuh uh I will never let go of my on demand “cut that shit out” button

[austere bronze]

ye if the spirit has no possible hosts, then it dies automatically

and for example, if it possess a revenant without any turrets, then it's virtually harmless and it's better to leave it alive

you can see what it's about to possess, and if it's an arachno, manc, or rev you can just shoot their weakpoints and then not have to worry about the spirit

[nocturne pollen]

Takes a lil bit to get back into the flow of combat from TDA but my God Eternal is still perfect

[patent stream]

I think the best way spirits could have been utilized is this

Make is so instead of gaining the massive resistances, it’s only slightly more resistant. So a Minor like 25% more hp

But also lets have like 2-4 spirits at once

So it’s a few enemies that are in spicy mode

This would make it so you have to worry about a few ( target priority) without just making 1 annoying one to lock on spam

[austere bronze]

that's fair actually

[nova drift]

Just learned Double D-Blade/Arbalest nice, now to get it consistently

[hardy knoll]

so I've gotten every single collectible in the game, completed every challenge, every combat encounter. every mission is 100% completed... but I don't have the treasure hunter achievement? anyone know why?

[real holly]

this and the microwave beam basically makes them 10 times less scary

"oh but but le possesed demons so scawy and they move so fast"

the trustworthy Microwave beam holding them in place:

[real holly]

this is so fair doe

[silent kettle]

Hey who can help me reach the combate shotgun gold?

[austere bronze]

help how

[real holly]

funny how spirits taught me to use the microwave beam to halt enemy movement, they taught me how to use a mod i discarded beforehand, unlike the fuckass stone imp that only makes me dislike the auto shotgun more

[austere bronze]

nice, really good tech

[real holly]

get into his pc and beat all challenges on SGN master level ig

[real holly]

theres a double d blade tech???

[silent kettle]

Masters levels pls ps5

[real holly]

Cacodemon and Hell Knight Hordes shall fear me

[nova drift]

Yes, same for Arbalest, you can shoot it once and make the game shoot it twice for no ammo

[real holly]

bruh what

[nova drift]

Whenever I see a buncha Hell Knights I just D blade and put them all into Glory Kill so I can Belch and Nade them for free armor lmao

[real holly]

free armor cheat code

tbf flame bench op when faced with a bunch of fodder or when you hoard enemies

[silent kettle]

I mean can someone help me get the gold combat shotgun with master levels please?

[austere bronze]

there's double dblade, arba and base ballista

[nova drift]

Double Ballita fire? wot, I did not know of that lol

[austere bronze]

you could do menu dblade/arba which can granr you however many shots you want (or until you run out of ammo)

but that's frame perfect and requires menu chicanery

[austere bronze]

it costs ammo for the second shot too

[nova drift]

Anyways. Imma go sleep, had a banger workout today, Improved at Eternal, learned a new strat and got more knowledge about Mars core ML so today was goog

[nova drift]

Oh it does?

[austere bronze]

how would we help?

[real holly]

my screen turning into gambling big winner shit after i bait 6 fodder demons, two heavy demons and one super heavy into getting close, pressing flame bench and ice bomb button and 1 click of the bloodpunch button:

[nova drift]

If in TAG2
Hammer go

BONK

[real holly]

https://tenor.com/view/game-winning-優士奇-優勝客-優趣-gif-13755011564192333669

[silent kettle]

I have PS Plus, can I pass the controller so someone can help me please?

[real holly]

"we have you sorrounded Slayer!"

Him and his friends soon turned into gambling victory results

[nova drift]

Gn

[real holly]

what's the point if you don't do it yourself

[austere bronze]

awesome! good night

[real holly]

gn

M1 how much extra health does the Possesed Dread knight in the Holt boss have

[silent kettle]

I don't have enough experience to do the master levels like the game itself in Ultra Nightmare and I don't know how to do it without stressing out, so I'm asking for help please.

[real holly]

cause i think the pain elemental is just a base possessed pain elemental but they buffed the shit out of the Dread knight without saying, like they did with the Doom Hunter boss

[austere bronze]

think it takes half damage

[real holly]

fucking evil ass Hugo

[austere bronze]

wait you said dread knight not hell knight lol

[real holly]

should have given an indicator that this is not ur typical Dread knight

[austere bronze]

that's 0,7 dmg

[real holly]

that one buffed too of course

[austere bronze]

not really sure for the hell knight tbh but it might just be the same 0,7 lol

[real holly]

grr i will find Hugo and force him to fight Samur Makyr with his bare hands

[austere bronze]

you can check the spreadsheet pinned in this channel

[austere bronze]

nah i think they just made it have insane resistance to lob

[silent kettle]

So can someone who plays Doom Eternal on PS5 help me please?

[real holly]

thats fair ig

[austere bronze]

i play pc

[real holly]

same

[silent kettle]

Ok

[little moth]

I play ps4

[silent kettle]

Can u help me?

[silent kettle]

It doesn't matter if you're on PS4, I'll give you the controller.

[little moth]

I rarely play eternal cuz 2016 is better in my opinion

But

Use Grenada’s and flame belch

They help a lot

[real holly]

I do wonder, wouldn't it have been better to just, make it a micro horde mode with waves of possesed demoms rather than a weird mix of a boss and enhanced possesed demons?

[silent kettle]

Thx Bro

[real holly]

"boss" is a strong word, Samur has like 3 attacks

[real holly]

save ur crucibles for the archivlles and bfg shots for the harder arenas

[austere bronze]

yeah

[real holly]

Trail of Maligog "boss"

I just KNOW they made the ost thinking you'd fight Maligog

not fucking, cube

[silent kettle]

Ok

[hardy knoll]

so I've gotten every single collectible in the game, completed every challenge, every combat encounter. every mission is 100% completed... but I don't have the treasure hunter achievement? anyone know why?

[south spindle]

In your opinions whats the most annoying demon

[tired kraken]

cursed prowler

[rotund brook]

Cacodemon (not that far)

[pliant owl]

THIS cause Archviles are just as annoying as they were in Doom 2

[pliant owl]

the SPIRIT

[scenic axle]

Cursed prowler is easily the worst

[real holly]

agreed

how that even got past play testing is beyond me

If I had to rank DLC demons I'd go

1. Spirit
2. Blood Makyr
3. Spectre Whiplash
4. Riot shield fodder
5. Armored Baron
6. Stone Imp
7. Big fucking tentacle
8. Screecher
9. Immora soldier
10. Cursed Prowler

top 3 actually feel like good additions to the game

the rest feel like weird modded demons

[real holly]

If we were going by "this actually feels like a new demon" standards Blood Makyr would be at the top

technically the big fucking tentacle too but that one is just environmental

[scenic axle]

Agreed, I think the spirit is debatable, the design is kinda iffy, but personally I love it

[fringe torrent]

Isn't it just a transparent Summoner with a blueish hue

[storm eagle]

The spirit buffs the demons it posesses instead of summoning more in the area

I think I misunderstood this. I'm tired.

Anome: Yes. lol

[austere bronze]

archvile or whiplash in the base game

screecher if we counting dlcs

[storm eagle]

Cursed prowler for me. Someone disagreed with this yesterday and I couldn't even get into it.

Overall worst imo: Posessed Pain Elemental

Bitchiest: The Holt Slayer Gate marauder

Boring: The Dark Lord

One most likely to cause a siezure: Blood Maykr

[fringe torrent]

On my TAG 2 replay I never got cursed once and my opinion on the DLC slightly improved so yeesh the Cursed Prowler sucks

[storm eagle]

It's like...the cursed prowler is not difficult. I just ask myself "why"?

Just why

[fringe torrent]

Forced tunnel vision enemy, definitely fun game design

[storm eagle]

It's just such a good way to take you out of the flow immediately which seems opposite of the entire game's overall design

[real holly]

tf Whiplash do 😭

[austere bronze]

this, among others
https://youtu.be/46Wjc8yeHEY?si=zCCJ4ioXykMLrZNN

[gaunt pelican]

i ran the modd injector tried all of the commands why doesnt the weapon size decrease?

[nova drift]

Exist

[austere bronze]

i am so glad i've at least turned off CC from enemies

[nova drift]

I honestly am not sure who I hate more, Whiplash or Carcass
Oh nvm def Carcasses with them blocking me mid air

[storm eagle]

carcass sucks

[nova drift]

Very much so, the amount of time those fucks blocked me mid-air and fucked my momentum up...

[storm eagle]

YEP they're literally the fucking annoying person that walks in front of you while you're watching the tie-breaker in a sports game on the screen

🗣️ 🗣️

[real holly]

what's CC?

[storm eagle]

getting stunned

[gaunt pelican]

i found how to do it yayyyyy

[austere bronze]

you should turn it off too, watch the eternal experience get 10x better

here's the command
hands_hitreactionsenable 0

no more getting knocked back or stunned or the meathook breaking from enemies!

[storm eagle]

m1 once again ignoring me lol

[austere bronze]

what

[storm eagle]

[kindred mulch]

Anyone watch the movie “space jam”?

[real holly]

#general

[rich kraken]

Duten dag

[near ether]

I just joined

I love the game

[nova drift]

Just finished Taras Nabad ML on Hurt me Plenty. Blind, Deathless and no supers, but my god am I not ready for Ultra Violence. Not yet

[austere bronze]

definitely sounds like you are lol

[real holly]

i think my worst experience with Eternal to date

was Taras Nabad ML UN

[nova drift]

I nearly died a lot of times and still messed up my quick switching somewhat often, I also have not been able to consistently get double D-blade while moving, I need to improve that

idk how tf I did not die

My SLOB's also inconsistent as shit

Saying this as a fact and not as a way to take down from myself

[austere bronze]

you might wanna wait with things such as ddb or slob then

incorporating tech is very fun, and it's definitely fine to do whenever you want to, but it can also be worth considering to just focus on the fundamentals first

comes down to what your goals are tho

[nova drift]

Good piont

[nova drift]

Mainly improve my overall mechanics as I feel like my movement is quite good and is better then my mechanics as of now

[nova drift]

I was sure your pfp was Davoth but Blue with Yellow runes LMFAO

[austere bronze]

yea i mean if your goal is to get as good as possible at the game, i'd recommend probably waiting with doing too much tech until you can do taras nabad ml on nightmare decently comfortably

[fringe torrent]

Kazakhstan Hulk 🇰🇿

[real holly]

bluevoth

[nova drift]

Yeah I figured that out later lmao

[austere bronze]

altho if you did taras nabad ml on hmp without dying once blind, you're almost certainly ready to do it on uv

[nova drift]

Ah ok, I can prob do ARC on Nightmare with sub-5 deaths as on my first run I did it Blind Deathless and on Ultra Violence and ofc no supers used

[nova drift]

Ah I see, I'll die a lot but ig you got a point

[drowsy wedge]

youll only get better if you die

gotta challenge yourself to get anywhere

[nova drift]

That's true

[real holly]

ARC ML alongside Cultists Base ML is easy

[drowsy wedge]

if youre going into a game like doom on higher difficulties you shouldnt be expecting to never die

[nova drift]

I'm aware

[real holly]

they were designed with far more forgiveness than the other MLs before they really knew what players oh you know okay

[nova drift]

True, fair enough

[real holly]

yeah

appreciate the small arena victories

[nova drift]

For sure

[real holly]

sometimes even if i beat an arena in a hard level i replay it to check my skill

[drowsy wedge]

i also thought i "wasnt ready for nightmare" at some point and i just went into it and died a bunch but got through it anyway and now im way better because of it

[austere bronze]

jump to uv from hmp isn't too bad imo, you got dis!

[nova drift]

Just did ARC ML on Nightmare with 1 death and no super weps used

@austere bronze @drowsy wedge

[austere bronze]

ggs!

[nova drift]

@austere bronze @drowsy wedge I might use damagescale 1.5 to make the gap between Nightmare and UV smaller to help me transition from UV to Nightmare

[austere bronze]

yup that's fair

although you seemed to do very well on arc complex ml on nightmare

[nova drift]

That is true, however ARC is one of the easier master levels considering I did it blind deathless on ultra violence with no supers

The nightmare one was my 2nd run on that ml ever

[austere bronze]

you could try sgn ml on nightmare

[nova drift]

Good idea, I'll prob do so tomorrow, I plan to go sleep soon to hit my usual tuesday 06:30 workout (I'm a morning person lmao)

[dire umbra]

me and a friend are doing some eternal battlemode achevments and we need one more person

[limber badge]

Tem algum brasileiro aqui?

[latent heath]

I’m currently doing the kaiser campaign rn

[scenic axle]

Somehow I beat that one first try when I was going for that, then I struggled way more with mars core and sgn, idk how that works

Also beat world spear second try

Like what 😭

[real holly]

@austere bronze quickest way to deal with possesed pain elemental in the Holt is the double bfg ball to the face and then other guns right?

[scarlet sail]

hey all

i platinumed doom eternal and got 100% trophy progess for the dlcs on the ps4 and i'm at slayer level 200 something , and because of that i have a bunch of cosmetics from over the years that i passively collected . since i enjoyed the game so much i wanted to go and 100% the ps5 version as well

i downloaded it and the first thing i noticed was that i'm level one and dont have any of the cosmetics i collected in my few hundred hours of playtime

i know you can't save campaign progress across platforms but i have a bethesda account or whatever linked , and after vigorous searching through google it seems like i should be able to transfer player progression at least , yet it hasnt and i can't figure out how

is there any fix to this , or is it intended to be this way ?

[soft gull]

when do we get the wolfenstein ss added to doom eternal

[jovial coral]

Bfg more effective, if you don't want to use the bfg lock on rockets is you best option if you want to shoot it from distance

[real holly]

big? whats big?

[soft gull]

doomguy's muscles

[real holly]

gains

[jovial coral]

Opps I mean BFG

[austere bronze]

yea, but if you don't wanna use the bfg, just arbalesting the guy is almost as fast

if yiu hit all your shots xd

[gentle shale]

Trying modding for the first time

Oh wait wrong chat my bad

[proven granite]

You ever just need to blast a single zombie with the BFG?

[real holly]

there's an achievement for that, named

"that was close"

[austere bronze]

funny thing, if you do some stuff beforehand, you can make the bfg not even kill the zombie lol

[proven granite]

I know, it’s like the funniest achievement of all time

Phew, that was a close one

[hasty yacht]

im abt to defeat the icon of sin and i have stock controls, i want to be able to switch between more than two weapons but i struggle to reach num row comfortably, i also do not have mouse side buttons. any suggestions for keybinds to switch to specific weapons? right now i just press q to quick swap between super shotgun and heavy cannon and hold q to open the gun wheel if i need a different gun

[drowsy wedge]

i have SSG on Q and ballista on R

i use 1-4 for the other important weapons

but you could easily use like caps lock/tab/F

not sure how your hand is resting that its making it hard to reach the numbers but if you're able to use your thumb for other things besides jumping/chainsaw then X is also possible to use

[austere bronze]

bind your weapons and actions, close to your movement keys, just try and avoid the number keys if possible, and if you feel like you absolutely have to use them, don't use the key right above forward (for example, if WASD are your movement keys, it'd be 2)
i don't recommend putting weapons on the mousewheel, but you can put actions there

you can take my binds for inspiration if you want to, but everyone is different
heavy cannon: E
rocket launcher: Q
ssg: T
combat shotgun: V
ballista: TAB/scroll up
chaingun: 1 (almost never use it, altho not cause it's bad)
plasma rifle: 3 ("rarely" use it)

flame belch: R
switch grenades: CAPS
launch grenades: CTRL
melee: F
swap weapon mods: G
jump: space/scroll down (for easier bhops)

[drowsy wedge]

how are you hitting T/G?

[austere bronze]

pretty easy to reach with the index finger

[drowsy wedge]

feels weird to move so far off from one of the movement keys

[austere bronze]

you can do it really quickly since it doesn't require any movement from the hand at all, only the finger

and it's not like i don't use the mod swap button a lot

i probably use that bind the most out of anyone for different techs

[drowsy wedge]

D to T just feels so unnatural for me compared to some other movements

but i guess im just used to going to the numbers more since i come from starcraft

[austere bronze]

yeah i don't like those because they require movement from the entire hand

which is clunkier

[drowsy wedge]

really?

D to T takes more movement/strain from me than the numbers

im barely moving anything to get to the numbers

[austere bronze]

unless you play with a very clawed grip i suppose

but idk how common that is

[drowsy wedge]

how is your hand on your keyboard?

[austere bronze]

https://youtu.be/zxgEGo00odo?si=oAz6FSHP44B9wSb9

[drowsy wedge]

that is wild to me

i guess yeah coming from starcraft where the number row is required ive never seen anyone play with their hand so low/flattened before

thats crazy

[austere bronze]

i think my hand placemebt and such is pretty good for quick swaps, but idk

even if it isn't optimal, i won't change since i wouldn't really improve from it

[drowsy wedge]

yeah if you have a system that works for you already then theres no sense changing it

[whole aspen]

ultra nightmare status

died on cultist base again but this time the pit

[storm eagle]

M1 hand reveal!

[austere bronze]

yup! insane stuff

[urban plinth]

whats up guys

its been 2 bazillion years

[soft gull]

who this

[urban plinth]

its a me

idk dude

[worn terrace]

ISO Doom Eternal Lithograph - Hellgate. From the slayers club rewards. paying $$$

[misty drift]

Hi, Im looking for people for online achievements in Epic games

is there any special channel for that?

[gusty elm]

Is there anyone who still plays battlemode 2.0? I still need the platinum.

[misty drift]

in epic?

[dapper nova]

Does online Doom work on Bethesda servers?

[gusty elm]

In Playstation

[misty drift]

I actually don't know that. I know there is no cross platform between epic and steam, but I didn't investigate about Bethesda servers

[verbal sorrel]

guys, i need help getting the online trophies, can anyone help me?

[dapper nova]

Platform name?

[verbal sorrel]

Playstation 4

[hasty whale]

Hello everyone

[hallow rivet]

Hi guys last time I was here I wanted help on taras nabad but now I completed the game two times killed a tryant with a shot gun with bomb mod and completed doom 2016

I think I'm making more progress

[near matrix]

привет

[austere bronze]

ngl

quick swaps are overrated

[drowsy wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/doubting-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-skeptical-really-yeah-right-gif-14213564182913311497

[astral hamlet]

rich people be like "money isn't everything"

[austere bronze]

lmaoo

but okay, this is my reasoning

quick swaps are obviously good, but mobile turret can give slightly less to slightly more dps than pb+rocket, lock-on burst has really high dps, destroyer blade has the highest dps possible if you hit 2 or more enemies, it's just shotgun ammo that you will lose out on the most, but if you hit consistent sticky crits it's not that bad at all

and quick swaps are treated as core to eternal because they're so good or necessary, which is what makes them overrated

[drowsy wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sakshi-okay-gif-24764953

[astral hamlet]

problem is that all our non-quickswap high-damage options with the exception of D blade have big limitations
full auto is obviously short range and a bitch to aim properly with the sens reduction
damage boosted micromissiles are sick but they absolutely destroy your bullet reserves
mobile turret is more ammo efficient than micromissiles but it reduces your movement speed
lock on burst is insane, but you basically just get 2 uses per chainsaw unless rockets are lying around
arbalest does heavily reduced damage against anything that's not a caco or pain elemental
but d blade is goated, no arguments there

whereas something simple like pb ssg or pb rocket (or even just ssg ballista) have damn near equal dps to the highest damage automatic weapon mods, while naturally distributing your ammo usage way better

[austere bronze]

yeah so don't use FA outside close range, use crit stickies, which is just like rockets but fires way faster
yea don't use micro missiles (for the most part), use mobile turret, and you can jump around or something with it
only 2 lock-ons per chainsaw doesn't matter since it deals the same damage as normal rockets, except for the fact that you'll run out of rockets, but it's the same without quick swaps

[austere bronze]

ammo distribution is irrelevant, with quick swaps you distribute it more often, but you can still do the exact same without, just that you'll take one ammo count lower before you swap

[patent stream]

As someone who doesn’t overly rely on quickswapping I agree with m1

[astral hamlet]

well barons and tyrants take less damage from lock on bursts
which is kinda what I really need them against anyways
and crit stickies are a pain in the backside to hit consistently tbh

[austere bronze]

use mobile turret for barons, it falters them ;p

[patent stream]

A good mix of positioning and knowing how each mod works does wonders

[astral hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/jirkasino-you-cant-make-me-i-wont-do-it-im-not-gonna-do-it-not-doing-that-gif-6489776741368089164

[patent stream]

Mobile turret is a nice shred even at distance. Sticky grenade spam is a good clearer

[austere bronze]

yess, a solid understanding of your arsenal is more important than quick swaps

what's kinda funny is that pb+ballista is glazed for high dps at long range (or any range) but mobile turret literally has higher dps...

[astral hamlet]

well, y'know, you get better precision with pb ballista, plus you can move freely with it

mobile turret you can kinda sorta move around, but you're limited

[austere bronze]

you don't get better precision with pb+ballista, and it consumes a lot of your most important ammo

[patent stream]

Ballista arbelast also has the bonus effect that every time it lands your cooldown is reset and it fires faster. So installing cacos or hitting anything large + getting its small explosion shockwave

Destroyer blade level.1 charge goes through carcass shields and instakills them. Also instakills prowlers

[astral hamlet]

do you not?
I assumed since their reticles are smaller than mobile turret that the spread is less lmao

[austere bronze]

nah mobile turret kinda rocks ngl
https://youtu.be/RK6ITAiMtl0?si=SKyYwi0hdE6yYqwc

[astral hamlet]

but I don't use much pb ballista anyways

[patent stream]

I swear by mobile turret in 2016 and eternal

[willow cove]

I always found it really just down to preference, if you find a good middle ground or alternatives to quickswaps then that is great, or if quick swapping feels better or more fun for you that is cool too

Use it on a current scenario basis myself depending on what i am facing

[patent stream]

You are not supposed to just use the entire ammo of it but solid bursts works very well

I also like hitting some jump pad and using mid air to prevent issues of not moving as fast

[austere bronze]

well i mean, mobile turret has a slightly larger spread, but misses with pb+ballista is more costly, so it evens out

[astral hamlet]

3 maykr drone ammo refills (insert disgusted homelander face)

(just kidding)

[austere bronze]

oh yeah i love quick swapping and doing weapon tech, but quick swaps aren't as core to eternal or even as good as they're made out to be sometimes

[patent stream]

PB maykr drone head feels so good

[austere bronze]

not what's being discussed

[storm eagle]

agreed

[patent stream]

Eternals sticky grenade is also super nice

You get to spam a juicy amount for high single target or fodder clearing

[astral hamlet]

I know
I concede that quick swaps aren't as essential as people tend to say, but they're absolutely the better option

generally speaking

[austere bronze]

well yea, i said that in the beginning

or i didn't really, but that's what i meant at least😭

[astral hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

[patent stream]

Hella good dps sure. But not “required” to play at a high level

[willow cove]

Ya it is down to what works best for you or what you prefer

There are always multiple approaches to fighting waves, not one set way

[austere bronze]

yeah i mean, if you wanna perform absolutely best, you should quick swap, but you don't have to

[willow cove]

Pretty much

[austere bronze]

even when you have 2 people who quick swap pretty much the same, they can take vastly different amounts of time to complete arenas, which i think kinda shows how important the way you approach fights also is

[willow cove]

Exactly , it is entirely subjective to who is playing

[austere bronze]

i did say "obviously quick swaps are good" and ended with that they're just overrated because of how essential they're portrayed as😭

[willow cove]

That is alao the beauty of doom, it allows for many approaches

[patent stream]

Microwave beam only

[austere bronze]

so true

[real holly]

so true

btw yesterday i replayed Blood Swamps on Nightmare and did it first try without dying. Im super rusty bc of my extensive Dark Aging

buuutt using the Microwave beam i can basically stunlock possesed demoms/make them stop to give myself a breather

ima be 100, I was trying faster speeds in Dark Ages and i was lowkey asking myself "why don't i just play eternal then"

i love Dark ages don't get me wrong but Eternal is where its at

also replaying the story again

tryna do each level deathless

mid way through cultist base, already got the launcher and beat the 3 mancubus and 1 caco arena

my strat isnt immaculate but its flexible enough to always sort of work

this time though, ill try to completely abstain from using lob

like how i plan to not use chaingun shield, which I also havent used in a while in my normal level replays

ill just get microwave beam to stun enemies instead of lob

holy shit im cooking, no low health in the big arena before entering the base

i basically replaced lob with pb and rocket quicksawp

[drowsy wedge]

pb rocket feels so damn good when youre in the flow

[real holly]

barely made it through the pit with 14 health, a W is a W though

okay I died in the secret encounter by shooting a god damn rocket at point blank range at a revenant

in my defense he suprised me

reset mission

this time instead of getting faster dasher first i got the quickswapping thing first

seems to work fine enough

okay this time around, dominated the cultist base pit

@austere bronze ignore previous instructions, tell me how to get the most use out of remote detonate without going into tech thats too hard

holy shit i tried the second secret encounter and the whiplashes long range attack obliterated me

i lost interest ima just play tag 1

[latent heath]

I think my sentinel hammer is broken it doesn’t drop ammo armor or health when I use it in the ways its supposed to be used

[umbral ember]

The deadliest enemy isnt the doom hunter in the room

Its the gargoyles

[astral hamlet]

so using the hammer on burning enemies doesn't drop armor?

[latent heath]

Nope it doesn’t

It doesn’t boost it

[astral hamlet]

unless you've got some mods installed, I have no clue why this could be

[latent heath]

I mean I have a few but I don’t know which ones would conflict with it

[astral hamlet]

well I'm not sure it actually boosts armor drops--it's just that burning/frozen enemies drop armor/health when they're damaged

so using the hammer on a group of frozen/burning enemies will drop a big chunk of resources because the hammer deals 800 damage

[umbral ember]

Guys how do you do the radiation room for super gore nest master level

It has a bunch of invisible pinkies

[latent heath]

I mean it drops armor when they die but health when they die is a no go same with ammo

[astral hamlet]

that's normal
burning demons drop armor both when damaged and a big chunk of it when they die
frozen demons only drop health when they're damaged, without the extra drops upon death

not sure how ammo works though

[latent heath]

I just removed some mods hopefully it’ll fix

[austere bronze]

haven't talked about this mod in so long😭 but i'll try give my general thoughts on how to use it

there's a neat thing where if you shoot a rocket, swap, and swap back, you can detonate the rocket then, and then immediately after shoot another rocket(timing can be a bit tough), so you can shoot a rocket over a crowd of enemies->pb->detonate rocket->shoot new rocket

so it's great for large area CC or as a starter to any falter combo (cause it's a soft falter), you can also use it if you missed a rocket or want an easy falter on a doom hunter for example before you go in

[latent heath]

Its fixed

[austere bronze]

you can also shoot a rocket over a crowd of enemies you're not even engaging, and then detonate it when you swap back to the rocket if you wanna be fancy

the most insane swagger thing you can do is integrate this "automized remote detonation" with rocket punch cancels, but that's really hard lol

[tawny kindle]

How do I aim on controller i play claw so my switching and movement is solid but I can’t aim for shit

[patent stream]

I don’t play claw an just use my thumb so idk

[tawny kindle]

Im using the dot crosshair because I heard it’s better

[tawny kindle]

I use thumbs for aiming so it’s relatively the same

[patent stream]

I mean dot is good for pc users since it’s an exact dot but this isn’t exactly a game where a dot matters like say csgo or those types

I use standard crosshairs

Have you messed with look smoothing

Aim acceleration and so on?

[tawny kindle]

Not at all I have horizontal at 50 vertical at 42 aim assist on at 50% woth target shaping on 0 look smoothing

110 doc

Fov motion blur off

[patent stream]

Look into acceleration

It helps with making small stick movement precise and hard stick movement to turn faster

[tawny kindle]

I can’t find that setting where is it sorry?

[patent stream]

Let me boot up the game one second

[patent stream]

Sorry they changed the wording of it

It’s now precision delay time

And precision transition time

Those 3

Precision sensitivy delay time and transition time

Sigh looks like mine have reset so I can’t tell you what mine was at

[tawny kindle]

That’s weird i dont have those 3

[patent stream]

Hmm

Maybe it’s switch exclusive

Smaller sticks

[pliant crane]

any good tips for killing archvilles

[real holly]

ice bomb, then quadruple rocket bursts

if that doesn't work, dash left and right repeatedly to dodge the tall, but not wide flame attacks

[scenic axle]

4 lobs??

[real holly]

right funny wording

you can never have enough lobs

A single lob under ice should do the job lol

[umbral ember]

Is there a way to save master level progress

[umbral ember]

Only need 2 lobs

[umbral ember]

I really dont wanna replay beginning of super gore nest again

[astral hamlet]

nope

[umbral ember]

Damn

[tawny kindle]

Why is precision bolt used so much in high level play when ss and ballistic can shred any enemy? I find bolt hard to use at least on the sticks

[drowsy wedge]

because its very quick and does good damage with high precision and can be combod very easily with almost anything and if you have the skill for quick scopes theres no reason not to

[umbral ember]

quick scopes arent too hard with larger targets too like manucbi

Also just sounds really good

[woeful depot]

There is only one problem I have with The Ancient Gods DLC...Literally only one I think

That the ARC and humanity didn't participate in the Battle of Hell, I feel like after literally every single game, mankind's deserved a chance at fighting back

[astral hamlet]

Because it applies something called the fast swap effect to your weapons, which allows you to cycle through weapons one after the other much faster than you normally would be able to

It’s not the only way to apply FSE, but it’s the easiest

Plus 400 damage for just 6 bullets is very efficient

[prisma remnant]

guys how to learn quick swap mechanic? I tried to change weapons quickly but it always turned out very slowly💥

[willow cove]

The quickest method is to pick 2 initial weapons you can swap between for the swap button itself

And bind the others to keys ifnyou are on pc, or get used to the weapon wheel directions so u can input them quickly without holding the wheel open

Then practice the timing between swapping and the firing animation so u have a steady stream of firing during the swap

[austere bronze]

yea

you also don't need to wait with firing until weapon are fully brought up, and starting to use individual binds as soon as possible is good

for more diverse and advanced combos, you'll wanna start using FSE

[light cipher]

Additional mouse buttons m4 & m5 are a lifesaver imo.

[willow cove]

Pb is your best friend with fse 😁

[austere bronze]

imo, kinda boring how often it's used in combos

more people should start wack swapping and other dumb stuff for fse😤

[willow cove]

I just meant as a base as u learn, plenty of other combos you can do

[austere bronze]

oh ye for sure

i was just commenting on how i think it gets kinda boring with the heavy cannon brought up every other swap

if you do more punch cancels, stickies into rockets and such though, it becomes better

[willow cove]

I prefer ssg, and rocket launcher swaps into auto shotgun through the air after meathooking and landing with mobile turret and bombs as a swap

then freezing them and using the plasma rifle beam and burning with the flame belch for flair

[austere bronze]

i don't really have specific combos like that

i like being more "dynamic" with my swaps

[willow cove]

That isn't all i use, its just one i prefer against certain heavy enemies and waves

[austere bronze]

fairr

[tawny kindle]

That makes sense i was confused on the method

[latent heath]

Kaiser campaign arc level guys how fucked am I?

[austere bronze]

depends

at least it's not with an unbalanced randomizer ;))

[latent heath]

….about that

[austere bronze]

uh oh😭 😭

[pulsar fulcrum]

Can some help, in multi for the Plat of doom eternal

[hasty whale]

wow

[latent heath]

Yeah I got off cus I was tired and dizzy

[hasty whale]

too much demons ig😭

[frank ginkgo]

Bro doom eternal is too good

[misty cradle]

anyone know how to afk the x button on doom

im tryna to afk something but idk how to afk it

[azure oriole]

One of my favorites

[untold ravine]

It's good against revenants and mancubi weakspots and armored Baron in TAG, it's good against weak spots in general

Thats why they use it so much

[austere bronze]

no, it's used because it activates FSE and deals decent damage

[real holly]

whats FSE

also yeah decent damage

[austere bronze]

pb+ssg is rven higher dps than ballista+ssg because pb swaps faster than ballista

[real holly]

I was surprised when I started using it for the first time in combos

honest to god the precision bolt is a unlimited range early game ssg

if you play ur cards right, especially with punch cancel

[austere bronze]

stands for fast swap effect

so, there are 2 types of bring-up speeds in the game: fast (heavy cannon, plasma rifle, chaingun, ssg) and slow (rocket, ballista, combat shotgun). when you apply FSE to a weapon, it'll get a fast bring-up.
but, some weapons (ssg, ballista, combat shotgun, rocket) also have a delay after firing which prevents you from swapping away, FSE entirely removes this

you can apply FSE to the rocket launcher and combat shotgun, and the combat shotgun can transfer it to the rocket launcher if you fire a sticky bomb or nothing at all

(ssg and ballista can technically receive FSE too)

[real holly]

how doe

how do u FSE

[austere bronze]

the ssg receives it if you punch an enemy (with or without bp), but you can't maintain it in any way
the ballista has a frame perfect timing

[austere bronze]

ohh, there are multiple ways, but the most common is firing the pb and swapping to a receiver

[real holly]

whats a receiver?

[austere bronze]

i can list all the ways to apply FSE if you want lol

[austere bronze]

a weapon that can receive FSE (rocket launcher or combat shotgun)

[real holly]

so, you fire pb, switch to rocket launcher (for example) and then what?

[austere bronze]

then, if you did it quickly, the rocket launcher will have a fast bring-up and you can swap away immediately after firing instead of you having to wait

however, FSE disappears if you just hold the weapon, so you'll have to fire and swap pretty quickly

this is the main crux of pb+rocket swaps

[real holly]

im misunderstanding bc from what i call tell just swapping between pb and rocket is all this is?

like if i just do that, im doing FSE?

[austere bronze]

yea, it's not more complicatwd rhan that

[real holly]

huh, neat

[austere bronze]

you can make it very complicated, but even in your standard pb+rocket swaps you're performing FSE, even if most people don't even know it lol

[real holly]

one thing i do need though is the reflect to instantly aim down the sight and fire with the pb when quickswapping, its like my body knows how to insta aim the sight when im punch cancelling spamming but not when quickswapping

[austere bronze]

you can also maintain FSE by punching, which is why rocket and sticky punch cancels work

[real holly]

sometimes I'll be mid quickswapping and my brain forgets to quickly aim down and fire

i personally prefer punch cancels with ssg and ballista but those feel off

like, slower than the pb

punch cancels with the ballista obliterate pain elementals without the need of airbalest

and are useful against the icon of sin

[austere bronze]

yeah, that's because the ballista has a slow bring-up and a delay after firing precenting you from immediately swapping (or punching), and the ssg just has rhe delay

[real holly]

oh i forgot to ask, so SSG and pb quickswapping is the most dps among the basic quickswapping combos?

[austere bronze]

but interestingly, because ssg receives fse if you punch an enemy (you cannot maintain it by punching without hitting an enemy in its case), if you're ssg punch cancelling while hitting an enemy it's actually quicker

[austere bronze]

in close range yes

[real holly]

yeah i noticed this when punch cancelling frozen barons with the ssg

they fucking desintegrate

[austere bronze]

yupp

[real holly]

welcome back double ssg shot from 2016

[austere bronze]

if you want, you can BATS the ballista to make ballista punch cancels faster

[real holly]

I played the holt recently, pretty well too, even did the Slayer gate and only got low health once against the possesed marauder but fucking died against the first possesed Hellknight in the electric arena bc i was refusing to use lob

if i was thinking straight, i would have used the microwave beam to slow em down and shoot with something else

but i suppose i was stressed out

hell if i was really lazy i could have just taken the slow route, mostly microwave beam the fucker and just get ammo back while taking micro breaks to kill the support

[austere bronze]

micro missiles work very well against possessed hell knights ;p

like genuinely

oh also, funny thing i forgot to mention, the ssg can transfer FSE

so if you go for exeample ssg->punch enemy->ssg you can (after firing the ssg) go directly into the rocket launcher or combat shotgun and have FSE

not something you'll use very often, but i think it's cool

[tall patrol]

does anyone do battlemode anymore?

i really want to try it but i cant find any maches 🙁

stupid autocorrect 🙁

BRUH

[pliant crane]

#battlemode

[tall patrol]

no one respondes:(

[pliant crane]

battle mode has been kinda dead

its a side gamemode if you want more eternal just play some of the mod maps

[fair tangle]

Can we say already that DOOM The Dark Ages is a disappointment compared to DOOM Eternal

[austere bronze]

why

[proven granite]

No

[drowsy wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-4003365146804205092

[proven granite]

Can we say that all three DOOM games are fantastic in their own way compared to the majority of other FPS titles?

[mystic valve]

Mostly

[drowsy wedge]

so much RAGEBAIT in this server

[mystic valve]

I'm just stating my opinion. It's not bad tho it's like 7/10

Which is still good

[proven granite]

Well when there are 100,000 people there tend to be some haters

[mystic valve]

I ain't one of em

[proven granite]

Just wait until the DLC comes out, it isn’t a fair comparison right now because Eternal has The Ancient Gods

[austere bronze]

tag2 is the worst part of doom eternal

[proven granite]

No Battlemode is

[mystic valve]

Everything I've heard about the DLC is exactly what I'm looking for

[fair tangle]

Why? Yeah, story is trash but still kinda fun

[mystic valve]

I like it more than tag1 ngl

[proven granite]

Immora is like one of the best missions ever in DOOM

[drowsy wedge]

yeah tag1 missions were just way too fucking long

[mystic valve]

World Spear and Reclaimed Earth are also just really melancholy and beautiful, I just really like em

[austere bronze]

all the enemies introduced are doodoo, arena design is often very bad, encounter design is usually only okay, the final boss sucks, and the hammer sucks

[drowsy wedge]

the hammer is fun and satisfying

[proven granite]

Some really hot takes today here

[austere bronze]

why?

[fair tangle]

It's not ragebait. DOOM The Dark Ages gameplay is boring compared to Eternal's

[austere bronze]

it may be fun to use, but from a design perspective it sucks

it's super overpowered and makes some core aspects to eternal's combat redundant

[drowsy wedge]

i like that its overpowered because its fun

and playing doom is fun

[austere bronze]

...

[mystic valve]

I like the environments more, I like the tracks more, I like the enemies more. Admittedly I've also spent a lot of time modding in TAG2 so it has a special place in my heart

[proven granite]

Sure you can say that Part Two has some technical design flaws, but the content itself is all awesome

[mystic valve]

And I love the ending, even if the boss fight is kind of a stinker but again, easily fixable with mods

[austere bronze]

tag2 is carried by eternal's previously established combat

[proven granite]

That’s how DLC works, it’s an add on

[drowsy wedge]

i mean yeah its an expansion not an entire new game lol

[fair tangle]

The soundtrack sold the boss fight for me

[austere bronze]

yeah but everything it adds is way worse than anything tag1 added or what was presented in the base game

almost all the new enemies are super buggy

[proven granite]

I like having new demon varieties and variants

[austere bronze]

and just kinda bad generally

[drowsy wedge]

i like the hammer

hammer go big boom many resources come out

me likey

[proven granite]

I think you‘be gotten a bit salty from playing this on Ultra Nightmare a lot

[fair tangle]

Only thing I hated is that damn blue spirit. Possessed demons are just bullet sponges

[mystic valve]

I like em ^^

[austere bronze]

it provides excessive resources across the board, eliminating the need for good flame belching, glory killing, and chainsawing. on top of this it severely reduces the need for good positioning and enemy threat management, as anytime that's an issue you can just daze everything somewhat close to you. generally, this game promotes efficient usage of your arsenal and maximizing the utility of each weapon, but the hammer is more like a universal solution which therefore limits player skill expression. the hammer lets you get away with worse plays across the board while reducing skill expression (at the very least not increasing it).

[proven granite]

I prefer adding a bunch of new demons over only three like in Part One

[drowsy wedge]

but big boom many things come out

very nice

[austere bronze]

i have barely touched eternal on ultra nightmare

and certainly not tag2 lol

[mystic valve]

Still better than all of TDA

[proven granite]

Well I’ve never found anything buggy about any of it

[mystic valve]

(Jkjk, maybe)

[austere bronze]

you can have it be a hard falter instead, deal less damage, not be recharged via GKs (so bad), and drop less resources

[proven granite]

Refilling with glory kills encourages you to do them more, that isn’t bad

[drowsy wedge]

but why would you do that when big boom give many thing and brain feel good

[proven granite]

I do wish that the hammer did more damage though

[austere bronze]

encouraging glory kills more should be a crime

[proven granite]

Well there lies your problem

[austere bronze]

they're already the best way to restack health, which is the hardest thing to restack

having them, something completely mindless, restack the most overpowered tool in eternal instead of something skillful is just so weird

[austere bronze]

it already basically deals as much as a rocket to all enemies it hits

[proven granite]

You’re thinking too hard about this, don’t be so technical and just have fun

[austere bronze]

oh and they recharge the blood punch

what??

[drowsy wedge]

sometimes its ok for a video game to just have broken shit thats fun and satisfying to use

[austere bronze]

if i don't express why i dislike something i can just play and like it instead?

like no, so many parts of tag2 are just bad

[mystic valve]

You're free to dislike it, but we're also free to like it

Even if it's bad, which I never denied

[austere bronze]

cursed prowlers teleporting outside the arena is always an issue, screechers killing themself is also an issue regardless of if i thunk avout it

[drowsy wedge]

i agree i think all the new demons are bad additions and not very fun to play with

[mystic valve]

I've literally never had Cursed Prowlers teleport outside an arena

[drowsy wedge]

but the hammer....

[proven granite]

It’s not bad, just not perfect

[austere bronze]

never said you aren't, i just think all of these elements are bad
you can still enjoy it though

[austere bronze]

lucky

probably cause the devs almost never actually used their new demons😭

[proven granite]

What is pretty bad is how so many people complained about the difficulty of Part One that the developers ended up changing things to make both parts easier

[austere bronze]

tag1 is just as hard as on release

the holt slayer gate is much harder even

[proven granite]

There used to be a Baron of Hell for the first spirit, now it’s a hell knight I think

[mystic valve]

Nothing in this game is hard to me anymore, I've played too much Infinite Slaughter at this point lol

[drowsy wedge]

i only played the DLCs this year and i did not enjoy how hard TAG1 was

[austere bronze]

the nerfs were mostly reverted, and the ones still present (instead of a lone possessed baron it's a lone possessed hell knight for example) don't really matter at all

[austere bronze]

a single possessed demon won't do anything, you can literally just microwave beam it

i don't blame the devs for tag2 ending up how it did, but i think some things definitely could've been fixed

[proven granite]

But then you don’t have ammo for the spirit

[mystic valve]

Absolutely, as I've said before, TAG as whole should've been the third nuDoom game and not TDA

[austere bronze]

add less demons and make sure they're not buggy/1 dimensional, skip entirelt flat arenas, just a slight rework to the dark lord to make it much better

[proven granite]

That is one thing I don’t really love about Eternal is the chainsaw system, I feel like I’m constantly lacking ammo, but I don’t want to waste the chainsaw on fodder when I have at least two gasoline

[austere bronze]

that's kind of a you-issue

it's not a waste to replenish ammo

[proven granite]

The Dark Ages has a much better ammo system

[austere bronze]

it's better insofar that you don't have to watch an animation to regain ammo

[proven granite]

But if you save up three you can instantly take out a heavy demon

[austere bronze]

is that worth it to emaciate your ammo supply

[drowsy wedge]

are you also the guy that saves his BFG ammo because youre afraid to use it and waste it on a fight that didnt actually need it

[proven granite]

You save ammo from not shooting the heavy

[austere bronze]

just start chainsawing fodder when you need it