doom-eternal

[astral hamlet]

why is the early game in eternal so much crap

every time I try to convince myself to try UN again I just get whacked over the head with how annoying the first 2-3 levels are

[spark herald]

Beef

[austere bronze]

don't fall to the un brainrot..

[astral hamlet]

too late 😔

funny thing is if it weren't for a bug then I would have probably already completed it

[rugged flax]

Not brainrot it gud trust

What is brainrot is siege and cr

[spark herald]

I was struggling on too young to die

[astral hamlet]

I was on gladiator second phase and I got him into gk to kill him, but for whatever reason he just refused to let me glory kill him
got whacked by a hell knight as I was trying to punch him, and boom, run over

[rugged flax]

You’ll get there

[rugged flax]

Oof thats rough

[spark herald]

Is there a difficulty difference between extra lives mode and regular

[rugged flax]

Nope

[spark herald]

When I played with extra lives I didn’t die once

[astral hamlet]

extra lives mode isn't a difficulty, it's just a game mode

[spark herald]

Played without died a lot

[astral hamlet]

just increase the difficulty to HMP or something

[austere bronze]

that's natural, i remember when i was in the same exact boat

[rugged flax]

HMP is goated fr

[austere bronze]

where you start out doesn't matter, only where you wanna end up

[rugged flax]

So am I unnatrual cause I played de on my first time on UV and it was the right diff for me?

[astral hamlet]

also ironically a hell knight was the cause of death for my best UN run in 2016 as well, also due to a bug
clipped through the floor in laz labs as I was GKing a hell knight
I was too shell shocked to alt-f4 in time lmao

[spark herald]

Have you played a doom game before

[austere bronze]

uh no

[rugged flax]

Yes but de was my first modern doom game

[astral hamlet]

yeah, you're just goated with the sauce

[rugged flax]

Brudda u have to play into my ego (dis a jk, so uh ok)

[austere bronze]

oh i didn't even think about that when you said that lol

[rugged flax]

🌹 ❤️ thats crazy

well not really

[sinful beacon]

No

[visual mirage]

Extra mode that doesnt add anything to the game

[austere bronze]

tru

[visual mirage]

I agree

[astral hamlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1389644177762947115/1440814007014522940/image0.jpg?ex=691f861c&is=691e349c&hm=9f088eb088d8d160ab6c607a43289d7753113fa31c8ea143509042309bd774b2&

[final oracle]

does doom eternal ancient gods reuse music? or are they completely new ones

[elder raft]

they're new

[final oracle]

all by mick gordon? or different creator?

[elder raft]

different. Andrew Hulshult and David Levy

[final oracle]

ah nice! ty

[small helm]

https://youtu.be/F_1l6oDwilg?si=4rxbNjTQeysYM6jn

https://youtu.be/LEMHyuZAUD0?si=3wgcQEFShaK2Sd1O

https://youtu.be/qzh8SqnxYqE?si=r0hjzxQoCdZnaAPW

[wary venture]

How hard are master levels?

[rugged flax]

Debends

[wary venture]

Let's Say world spear master lever

[rugged flax]

Well yeah

It’s one of the harder ones

I’d say it’s difficult

[wary venture]

How hard compared to the standard level?

[rugged flax]

Way harder

[wary venture]

Ok thanks

[rugged flax]

Standard levels are goo goo gaga level compared to master levels

[wary venture]

Ok

The demons fear the doom Slayer, i fear the double marauder in immora(tag 2)

[astral hamlet]

It’s not that bad lol
You just have to run around in circles a lot

Very annoying though

[wary venture]

Weel, true, i beat the dark lord 10 minutes ago, i would have liked him if he didn't spawn demons and recover all healtbar if i miss the glory kill

[visual mirage]

Glorified marauder

[scarlet venture]

Yo

As a new and not extremely skilled guy to doom I just finished eternal’s base game and dlc 1, on like hurt me plenty so dont judge please lol but I really did enjoy it, I will attempt more difficult re runs tho

[rough zodiac]

#videos message
Sorry but I don't know where else to go with this and I'm kinda out of ideas at this point

Got this bug that pretty much softlocks me

[austere bronze]

that's fire💯
and anyone who judges another for their skill level should just be ignored

elitism is annoying and completely unnecessary

[astral hamlet]

good shit

eternal makes a lot of other fps games feel like a walk in the park, so kudos

[visual mirage]

I disagree

[astral hamlet]

I didn't say every other fps, I just said a lot of other fps games

which it absolutely does

[visual mirage]

I dont believe you

[rough zodiac]

Also halp

[astral hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/yuh-smiling-happy-ok-gif-13352709

[scarlet venture]

Thank you brothers hearing these feels good indeed

[scarlet venture]

It indeed damn does hah

[spark herald]

almost cried at the marauder in taru nabad

[astral hamlet]

sticky bomb the mecha zombies before you get to work on the marauder
marauders react to enemy fire, so he'll act really annoying if you let the mecha zombies live

[nova cairn]

Ballista ssg the cacodemon sticky bomb the zombies and deal with the marauder using ssg ballistas or a bfg shot to missirect it's shield and just blast it from behind I think that's possible

[astral hamlet]

don't waste a BFG shot on that marauder

or any marauder for that matter, unless you're either getting a sentinel ammo crystal or the unmaykr next, which both refill your bfg ammo

[nova cairn]

I said or

[astral hamlet]

yeah
there doesn't need to be an "or", because using the bfg on a marauder is a huge waste

unless, like I said before, you're refilling your bfg ammo immediately afterwards

[nova cairn]

Theres one bfg unit in the doom hunter arena and in the archvile encounter in the tight room with portals and whiplashes

[astral hamlet]

Yeah, both of which are much tougher arenas than just a single marauder

[visual mirage]

Imagine how based id would be if they allow you to kill marauders with the crucible

[nova cairn]

You can kill them with crucible in the glorykill phase I think

[astral hamlet]

it would be incredibly based

[astral hamlet]

you can, but that don't count

[reef raptor]

lets see if my intel 5 7400 can run doom 2020

[ebon elbow]

yeah def don't waste bfg on marauder. if you're on pc just practice the basic pb - ballista 2 cycle. very reliable and safe once you get the timing down

[visual mirage]

ssg+ballista

[visual mirage]

I wish v1.0 worked on latest nvidia gpus

[scarlet venture]

Oh the double marauders man those are pain in the ass hah

[river shoal]

They were awful (playing second hardest non hardcore difficulty on my first play through prob didn’t help tho)

[scarlet venture]

They were awful for me while playing them on hurt me plenty too dw XD

[river shoal]

Worst part is I wasted a bfg shot on shield

[scarlet venture]

I already did that like before somewhere so I luckily didnt do that but damn its inviting heh

[river shoal]

Yeah

[scarlet venture]

The issue is that one marauder I can deal with because when its aboutta hit u hit em and then ballista + ssg. But with two its constant attacking

And The ghost wolves comin after u too

[river shoal]

Huh, I just got one away from the other and then super shotgun only for both of them

I barely touched the ballista lol

[scarlet venture]

I was trying the quick weapon swap combo for the first time then because I never did it before thats why I shot them like that

Swapping is cool its handy

[river shoal]

I saw the in game pop up for it and went, I’m never gonna do that

Probably why I died so much on icon of sin fight

[scarlet venture]

I saw that and didnt use it at first

Then saw pros doin it

And I was like why could it hurt

I also reordered my keybinds and weapon wheel so the guns jn the best order for me, now 1 on my keys is ssg and 2 is ballista which i need the most

[austere bronze]

if you're going to use the keys directly above WASD, i'd recommend you bind things you don't use often there

[scarlet venture]

sadly I kinda use everything else too, so there isnt really other options but it works fine for me for now

I dont need these keys like very often

and 1 and 2 are easy to reach

[austere bronze]

they mess more with your movement though

mostly 2 since it requires you to take your finger away from W

you can have it like this, but i'd just bind something less important there, and have your most important binds right besides WASD

[scarlet venture]

maybe maybe, its hard cause I need everything and everything fast lol

but I will maybe change

[austere bronze]

(the movement to reach those binds requires you somewhat moving your entire hand, while for binds besides WASD you can just move one finger)

and if you aren't weird like me, and actually bind things to your mouse, you can completely avoid using any numbers, which is the best

but i'd also recommend avoiding binding weapons to the scroll wheel or anything to pressing down mouse wheel

[austere bronze]

yeaa, it takes some getting used to for sure lol
both not using the weapon wheel and also swapping fast/quick swapping

[scarlet venture]

I shouldnt be using the weapon wheel? damn

I like the weapon wheel because I randomly need the weapons I normally dont use, like the plasma rifle I rarely do but sometimes the blue overpowering ghosts need to be killed with that

[austere bronze]

swapping weapons with it is slower, but you don't have to stop using it

it completely depends on your goal(s) with the game, if you just wanna have fun, then it doesn't matter
if you wanna get better (and have fun still, ofc) then you should stop using it as soon as possible

[scarlet venture]

I normally quickswap between the super shotgun and the ballista with pressing Q, but sometimes I do need guns for specific things like I wanna send a few rockets so need the rocket launcher

and there are too many guns to just ahve a key for each like there is 8 or even more I dont remember

[austere bronze]

yeah there's 8, and you absolutely can give each one a bind, especially if you use the mouse too
i can send my binds if you want

also, i'd recommend branching out from just ssg+ballista

[scarlet venture]

I am interested yea

[scarlet venture]

they are the quickest damage combo I can produce, other guns are specific in a way

but I am the not pro here lol

I gotta do sth more professional I just dont know what

there are many things like blood punch, fire, the two grenades, the mod swapping, all things that need their own keys and I need them fast while flyin around

[austere bronze]

heavy cannon: E
rocket launcher: Q
super shotgun: T
combat shotgun: V
ballista: TAB/mouse up
chaingun: 1
plasma rifle: 3

flame belch: R
melee: F
mod swap: G
crucible: V
chainsaw: X
grenade: LCTRL
swap grenade: CAPS

and i got jump bound to scroll down and space to make bhops easier

yes i know i don't even follow all my recommendations myself😭

[scarlet venture]

damn this is very different wow I gotta make mine lol

interesting rabbit hole this keybind modding lol

I will have to change ofc

[austere bronze]

you can quick swap very effectively with the heavy cannon, rocket launcher, combat shotgun, super shotgun, and ballista, then the rest of the weapons can serve as kinda auxiliary guns
although, to really quick swap effectively with some of these it does require some "tech"

i'd recommend sticking with ssg+ballista as your main quick swap combo for now, and just using other weapons when they're useful to get comfortable with all of it

[scarlet venture]

how does this game even work for controller players lol they dont have this many buttons lol

[austere bronze]

focus on fundamentals first, then start messing around with quick swaps

[austere bronze]

they can usually bind a couple weapons

and the rest they'll have to select via the weapon wheel

[scarlet venture]

alright alright I will, I want to improve afterall, this just challenged my muscle memory heavily heh

[austere bronze]

some get reallyy fast with it, like, literally every swap here was made with the weapon wheel
https://youtu.be/PLdiSt0oV7I?si=Om9MN40biyGj-ZNL

(except when they could just press Q for previous weapon)

[scarlet venture]

DAYUMN thats impressive

[austere bronze]

ye

you can get stupidly good at eternal, which is really fun

and even then, there's lots of room for improvement lmao

[smoky karma]

Hi

[austere bronze]

hi

[visual mirage]

Hewwo :333

[austere bronze]

cringey but based:

[storm eagle]

ew lol

[austere bronze]

lmao

[storm eagle]

@visual mirage 😁

[visual mirage]

😬

[fading orchid]

i finally beat Doom eternal on UN after 3 years, it feels so good finishing it

[wicked ridge]

Nice! Do it again blindfolded

[scarlet venture]

Cooooool man

Im at the 2nd dlc rn

And lovin this game

[storm eagle]

The Pit-Cultist Base on Nightmare. Combat shotgun only, stickies, frag grenades, flame belch, blood punch, and chainsaw.

Why? Boredom.

[austere bronze]

goofball combo
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1382839980795105406/1441743896089460867/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_4.mp4?ex=6922e823&is=692196a3&hm=823752d2567990f0457fa8bef890b95fb235776bbbdad484d87530587f629681&

[nova cairn]

Oh nice

I did it too, the feeling was so awesome

[queen rock]

Yo

[ebon elbow]

if your goal is to keep improving then it's absolutely worth the investment to experiment with different keybinds. it does take time for muscle memory to adjust but it pays dividends 10x down the road

personally I keep all my weapon binds on my keyboard as I find that having binds on my mouse subtly messes with my aim in critical moments, but you should experiment and come to your own conclusions

[austere bronze]

even scroll wheel binds?

[ebon elbow]

I mainly noticed it on the thumb side button binds. On scroll wheel binds the effect was much less for sure, but I just like having my fingers steady on the mouse in general. could be a psychological thing.

my scroll wheel also has a tendency of being a bit flaky so I try to avoid it for critical moments

[austere bronze]

ah dang

bhops with space 💔

[ebon elbow]

I still have yet to learn how to bhop effectively lol

[eager prairie]

Can anyone help me get the battlemode kills trophy

I need it for plat

[austere bronze]

yeah scroll for jump helps massively with that

which weapon mods does everyone think are the most overrated

[azure talon]

Прошёл 4 уровня На Кошмаре и чуть стол не сломал как же сложно

[storm eagle]

Chaingun shield. Watch everyone get triggered lol.

[topaz surge]

hey i need help with nightmare i do fine in ultra violence but get crushed in nightmare i got to sentinal prime

[storm eagle]

English only please

[fringe torrent]

I never use the chaingun in general so I agree

I know it's super OP with the right tech but I don't really need that kind of tech

I just like SSG+Ballistaing my troubles away

[storm eagle]

I never really use chaingun either, so luckily never got into the habit of it. For fall damage the shield is great, but at the risk of sounding judgy, it'll always seem like a panic button otherwise.

[kind basin]

I use it

And guess what, what demon's gonna stop me

That's right none of them

#Icondonedemonbullying

[storm eagle]

lmao

[fringe torrent]

Eternal has a lot of panic buttons doesn't it

Enjoyed TDA doing less of that

[austere bronze]

there doesn't exist any particular tips for nightmare compared to ultra violence (or any other difficulty), but i can give you some general tips for improving, or if you wanna share your gameplay i can give tips directly for it

[austere bronze]

oh dam

i've actually considered using it

but only for fall damage, because it feels so BS after the fall when you spawn in again

you can't do anything or see anything, but enemies will attack you

[topaz surge]

i do have gameplay but it is on my yt channel

[austere bronze]

just send the link of da vid

[topaz surge]

ok

[storm eagle]

yeah I agree. I suppose that's why so many people gravitate towards the mpdded levels that are harder.

[topaz surge]

https://studio.youtube.com/video/pvg1hedaAoM/edit this is gameplay just skip to nearly the end

wrong link

[austere bronze]

xd

[fringe torrent]

I beat TDA while only using the BFC like once or twice (aside from ||Enhanced Ahzrak||) because the combat is engaging and I'd hate to skip out on an encounter like that. Might do the same for my Eternal replay

[storm eagle]

for fall damage it's great

[topaz surge]

wait i didnt uplaod me fighting in sentinal prime

[kind basin]

Wait Anome I just realized, you've finally played dark ages??

[fringe torrent]

I got it earlier this week yeah. Already 100%d :p

[kind basin]

What do you think abt the story

[fringe torrent]

All the content I have left is Pandemonium and UN

[kind basin]

I remember you were curious abt it

[fringe torrent]

I'll answer in #the-dark-ages

[visual mirage]

ip logger

[topaz surge]

what does that mean

[storm eagle]

oh god. professor M1 is at it again

[austere bronze]

@topaz surge
your main issue is a severe lack of control in battle, which i'd say stems from 3 things

1. use your grenades much more. this is probably the easiest fix as it's mostly mechanical, you just wanna always use frag grenades when you can to control the fight via falters, or allow you to go in. ice grenades you can throw when you need or want to do high damage
2. use your movement options more. this is 50% mechanical skills and 50% game sense. you almost exclusively seem to use dashes to get somewhere, but you want to actively use them in combat to dodge or redirect momentum. i'd recommend trying to constantly use your first dash, and save the second for when you need it, to not leave yourself unnecessarily exposed.
   the meathook is also a much more diverse tool than just pull in to get to enemy/restack. you probably want to mainly use it for getting into the air (being in the air is good), and you can never use it too much! so just spam it lol
3. pathing. right now you seem to often run without being too aware of the environment and then attack the first heavy that appears. you want to be aware of your environment and what exists, so you can pick what you fight and prioritize targets. then (like virtually everyone) you tunnel vision on those enemies. you far from always need to completely kill the enemy before moving on, you want to often cycle between enemies and restack in between. and keep your distance more from enemies, being too close is an easy way to lose control and take too much damage. you want to usually stay a decent bit away, and only move in if it's for high DPS and you know you won't take too much damage.

you'd also benefit from using more guns. continuing to only quick swap between the ssg and ballista is probably a good idea for a while, but using more guns more often is also a good idea. and you might want to consider lowering your sensitivity

[topaz surge]

thanks i really appreciate this man

[jovial coral]

🤓

[scenic axle]

I think this is actually a great take. Chaingun shield is absolutely op, but you only need it because you messed up and put yourself in a bad spot, if you just don’t mess up it has no use

[austere bronze]

ye, no worries! hit me up anytime

[topaz surge]

thanks again

[storm eagle]

Agreed 100% my guy

[visual mirage]

I disagree

[fringe torrent]

I feel indifference

[storm eagle]

Eternal players are something else man lol

[austere bronze]

says the eternal player

[storm eagle]

Not ruling myself out 😁

[austere bronze]

xd

[jolly kernel]

is the milestone for killing only a zombie with the bfg still bugged?

[visual hornet]

No

Just the "Argentas Paladi"

[ebon elbow]

thing about chaingun shield is that it's really effective at what it sets out to do but makes it super easy to build bad habits. I deliberately avoid using it in 99% of circumstances

on un I only used it on icon because I really didn't want to deal with a stray hulk smash

also on gladiator, pb+rocket or pb+ballista destroys him. when you get him in gk state, do not actually gk him (unless you really need the health). instead let him recover, and while he shrugs off the gk state go ham with one of the above. maintain your distance and keep your aim steady

[storm eagle]

based af

[visual mirage]

PRO TIP
The Chaingun can quickly falter knight class demons.

[scenic axle]

Yeah I fully stopped using it because it let me get away with bad habits, I’ve had a noticeable improvement since I stopped using it

[scarlet venture]

do you guys think that Doom 2016 can be fully enjoyed after playing Eternal first? Because I heard 2016 is very good but still, eternal is faster and more modern so then wouldn't I just feel like slowed down compared to Eternal?

[fringe torrent]

Yes because speed does not inherently and objectively define a game's quality

[scarlet venture]

I know that a slower option can still be good, but like eternal was later, I would think since 2016 they only improved stuff and if I felt like okay this is cool but I played sth even better already then

[fringe torrent]

What?

[scarlet venture]

well 2016 came out first right? It was a cool ass doom game. Then Eternal, which was faster, and the shooting was improved and the mechanics were improved and all was improved compared to 2016. So even though 2016 is not bad, Eternal logically should be better

like how Cod mw2 isn't bad but the 2020 reboot is jut better because movement is faster and graphics are more modern and all taht

[fringe torrent]

These are all subjective and it definitely did not improve everything

And graphically I think it's weaker

[unreal meteor]

hey man i need help i dont know how to open a blue door in doom eternal i dont understand

[fringe torrent]

Get the blue keycard

[unreal meteor]

I DONT FIND IT

its a room where its have 4 blue door

and i dont find a single key

[scarlet venture]

check the map for any rooms u may have left behind

and try to backtrack

or search for a gameplay walkthrough there everything is told how to do

[fierce wave]

I remember you..... I'm sending pipple to your house so you better wash his belly

[fringe torrent]

Pipple 💔 💔

[fierce wave]

Not only that but he's going to eat all your snacks and demand more belly washes

[scarlet venture]

I feel like I am heavily missing some context here why am I getting someone named pipple wtf

[fierce wave]

I'm also trying to be funny to distract myself from the dark thoughts in my head

[fierce wave]

It's a dog that always says I am Pipple wash my belly

[fringe torrent]

Pibble

[scarlet venture]

okay I guess XD

[tame topaz]

Wild ass take.

[fringe torrent]

Is it though

[tired kraken]

ur right abt 2016 and eternal but that same logic doesnt apply to cod as infinity ward made a lot of questionable design decisions that made the reboot worse than the og

also while eternal is an evolution of 2016 its still up to personal taste which one is “better”

[scarlet venture]

okay thats valid tru tru

[scarlet venture]

well I gotta try it otherwise I will never know huh

[tired kraken]

yeah

[sacred zenith]

Doom eternal is better because you have more weapons to kill demons with

[fringe torrent]

2016 has more though

[sacred zenith]

It’s hard to choose which is better there both amazing games

[shell fox]

does it though?

multiplayer does not count

[fringe torrent]

Yes

Equal amount in the campaign but then 5 more in SnapMap

And don't tell me SnapMap doesn't count because it's SP and the only initial criteria was killing demons

[fringe torrent]

Actually with the Unmaykr Eternal has one but like be fr who uses the Unmaykr

[shell fox]

eternal didn't even have snapmap, it's kinda clear the comparison is about the campaign weapons

[shell fox]

badempanada

wait

brainrot my bad

what was the name of that mayo dude

[fringe torrent]

I see no specified mention of it being campaign only but if you insist on it being strictly the campaign then Eternal only clears because it has a shittier BFG

[fringe torrent]

UnderTheMayo

[shell fox]

eternal does not even have snapmap so how would one even think to compare eternal's weapon arsenal vs 2016's entire weapon arsenal with the inclusion of snapmap, which is a commonly unexplored mode

[fringe torrent]

I don't understand the argument of "doesn't have SnapMap"

We're talking about the arsenal

[shell fox]

yes, and if you compare the content available in both eternal and 2016, eternal has more

even if the unmaykr is useless that's still one more weapon

[fringe torrent]

Not with SnapMap 😌

[shell fox]

something eternal does not even have

[fringe torrent]

Eternal has more content if you exclude the additional content 2016 has

That's a very valid argument

[graceful current]

Isn’t it equal with the unmaykr given the pistol?

Or wait are u counting crucible

[fringe torrent]

I'm not, I don't count the equipment

[graceful current]

Oh then how is it not equal

[fringe torrent]

You're right the pistol makes them equal

[graceful current]

Oh ok cool

If we count equipment (all of it) then eternal has 1 more with the crucible

but that’s it

[graceful current]

Something I’ve probably used more than the Unmaykr :(

[fringe torrent]

Because the pistol is pretty useful in the early game if you want to conserve ammo

You get the Unmaykr near the end of Eternal and it's kind of whatever

[tame topaz]

Well, off the top of my head:

gore system that lets you know enemy health at a glance, making for better feedback
bigger emphasis on exploiting enemy weaknesses, encounter composition and mixing and matching, more mobility options
more reliable weapons each filling a niche, meaning lower TTK in spite of reduced ammo economy
levels that introduce at least one enemy/mechanic/feature at a time with more varied visuals
fast travel

[fringe torrent]

Ok

What's your point exactly

[tame topaz]

Proving you wrong, which I did.

However you react is not my problem.

[fringe torrent]

And what of what I said is wrong for you to disprove it

[tame topaz]

'Game does not improve anything it's all subjective'
'Actually it did objectively improve on a lot of things from 2016'

[fringe torrent]

You're putting words in my mouth, I didn't say it doesn't improve on anything

[tame topaz]

#doom-eternal message

Anything else?

[fringe torrent]

Yes, that says "didn't improve everything" which means not everything was an improvement :p

[tame topaz]

Okay, yeah that tracks.

Thank you for trying.

[fringe torrent]

You're welcome...?

[scenic axle]

arguably eternal has even more ammo

If you play it right you genuinely never run out

[visual mirage]

I love DOOM Eternal broken mechanics 🙂

[vast star]

anyone down to play that 1 multiplayer mod?

[azure oriole]

What an odd way to talk to someone because they like a game more than another game.

Must be fun at parties.

[tame topaz]

My point was about improvements Eternal had over 2016.

I never said 2016 was a bad game nor did I insult them for preferring it, if they do.

[azure oriole]

Sure, I'm just saying you sounded like a smarmy and pretentious dork over it lol.

[tame topaz]

I really care about what you're saying right now.

[azure oriole]

I can tell by your responding to it, yes.

[tame topaz]

I installed that yesterday, I'd be down.

[azure oriole]

I hope you improve your social skills, man. Tends to make interacting with people more fun and peaceful.

[tame topaz]

I got 2 other friends in line waiting as well.

[azure oriole]

Also yeah Anome, I prefer Eternal but they are very different games.

People act like it's just an objective improvement but they are going for different things.

[tame topaz]

You butt into a peaceful 2-minute exchange that was done that didn't involve you, and completely unpromptedly jump on my neck. And I'm the one who needs to improve their social skills.

[azure oriole]

Yes. This is correct.

[tame topaz]

All I can say is I hope you improve your social skills, man. Tends to make interacting with people more fun and peaceful.

[azure oriole]

I felt inclined to inform you that you sounded like if the know-it-all kid from Polar Express grew up and didn't get any better.

It's a moral obligation. In the end I am helping you. You're welcome.

[tame topaz]

I just hope you improve your social skills, man. Tends to make interacting with people more fun and peaceful.

[elder raft]

really took that to heart, didn't ya

[azure oriole]

Unfortunately I think I struck a nerve, yeah.

[tame topaz]

I love taking the piss out of pedantic people.

All it takes is flinging their own words back at them.

[elder raft]

well you're alone there. this is just sad 😭

[tame topaz]

It's okay, humor is subjective.

[visual mirage]

DOOM Eternal is a good game

[vast star]

I can get on in 10 wanna call aswell?

[tame topaz]

But is it really?

[elder raft]

it sure is

[visual mirage]

No
Its a bad DOOM game

[azure oriole]

Eternal is a very good game!

[elder raft]

noooo

[tame topaz]

True.

[elder raft]

it's funny and cool tho

[azure oriole]

Some Eternal fans really, really take criticism of it too far to heart as we just watched, unfortunately, so it gets kind of a bad rap in some circles of the community. But the game itself rocks.

[tame topaz]

I would if this server had any VC channels. I wanted to stream the new TDA arenas and thought of joining Allstin's server to do it.

[elder raft]

they treat it as a perfect game. the peak of doom. funny how the one that's changed the formula the most is the best in their eyes. wonder if they even like doom at all

[tame topaz]

These days I don't even play vanilla Eternal, only the classic overhaul mod.

[visual mirage]

I hate all Doom games equally

[fringe torrent]

Based?

[elder raft]

we love equality chat

[vast star]

I can Join the Server and you can Stream it there if you would want to

[fringe torrent]

To hate them all equally would also mean to like them all equally 😌

[elder raft]

true

[tame topaz]

I haven't touched 2016 in months despite me wanting to try finishing it on and off. Something as basic as the inconsistent runspeed really messes with me. I even liked VFR and finished that multiple times.

TDA though would be great for VR.

[azure oriole]

BACK OFF Doom Eternal, bud..... This game improved everything objectively about 2016.... You'd better not pretend otherwise......

[tame topaz]

Yeah why not lesgo.

[elder raft]

the difference between my hours on 2016, eternal and tda is kinda funny. doom eternal is sitting on like 160, tda is sitting on like 100 and then 2016 is sitting on like 20 😭

[elder raft]

omg how could i. i gotta write my apology essay now. eternal is the best game ever made

[tame topaz]

DE had more replayability for sure. Which is crazy when 2016 has Snapmap.

[fringe torrent]

DOOM Eternal is what defines DOOM. The first DOOM game is a bad DOOM game.

[tame topaz]

TDA is fun but the lack of post-endgame content is a real problem.

[elder raft]

damn straight. they didn't get it right until eternal

[astral hamlet]

how so

you mean right now?

[fringe torrent]

I hate to agree but I feel the same way

[tame topaz]

Yeah as in there's not that much to do, Ripatorium is fun but there should be a randomized mode.

[elder raft]

i feel like judging it on that right now is wrong. we'll have a dlc for it soon and the ripatorium will definitely see more updates

[fringe torrent]

Judging a game by how it is on release is fine; we've had 3 updates since so judging it now is even more fine

[tame topaz]

Yeah well, right now would be a good time to have more stuff as well.

[azure oriole]

The DLC will have a fuckton of post-game content apparently.

[elder raft]

it's fine to judge it, but you gotta take into account that it did release a few months ago

[vast star]

could go in game now

[spring orbit]

Im new here

[elder raft]

welcome

[fringe torrent]

Exactly, it released, so we can judge it as a product, and as a product I feel there's not enough to do after completion :p

[tame topaz]

I'll let you know when, I need to cook first and do some art.

[elder raft]

good think ripatorium recently got updated then

[spring orbit]

I want to buy the doom slayer figma and the mcfarlane marauder

[elder raft]

updates exist. they take time to get developed. would you say the same thing on launch too when all it had was the campaign?

[tame topaz]

The new presets are barely worth it though. I was expecting a random mode like they teased and I thought that would make it in.

[fringe torrent]

...yes?

I don't really get how it's insane to say the game has not enough postgame content

[visual mirage]

Mcfarlane phalanx slayer is crap

[tame topaz]

My preferred hopium source is the DLC teaser dropping at TGA.

[spring orbit]

Yes but there is no good cheap optiond

[spring orbit]

And also they have terrible joints

[tame topaz]

Action figures are always either cheap and bad or expensive and they just sit there collecting dust because you don't want to break them.

[spring orbit]

Agree

[visual mirage]

The 40 bucks I had to pay just to get a skin on a mid game

[spring orbit]

I WANT A LEGO DOOM SET

[elder raft]

it's fine to want postgame content, but that's what updates are for. they drop the main game, everyone play it, they finish it, then the update comes. that's how singleplayer games work. they got the main campaign and then later probably gets stuff

[fringe torrent]

I know

[spring orbit]

I completed doom eternal yesterday

[fringe torrent]

But I'm not saying the game will NEVER have postgame content and is DOGSHIT as a result

[tame topaz]

I still think the game should've come out with the Ripatorium or some basic form of it on release.

[fringe torrent]

I'm saying it doesn't have enough right now. I love the game to death but me saying this should not be treated as some insane statement. We just talked about how Eternal fans glaze the game and you were in on the joke, and now you're kind of doing the same thing for TDA

[elder raft]

wasn't a priority. the main game was. you're allowed to think that but there's most likely a reason they held off on it

[tame topaz]

That wasn't even a relevant or funny joke since all that prompted it was me simply saying DE improved on some stuff from 2016.

[elder raft]

how am i doing that for tda. i see it has flaws. do i want the dlc now? yeah fucking drop it already. but i at least realize the perspective the devs have for the game. just pushing shit out one after another doesn't work. if that were to happen, they would have to delay the game. if you would preferred that, good on you. i personally would not

[fringe torrent]

I have literally never implied any of those things, all I said is the game is lacking at the moment. Come on man

You PERFECTLY illustrated what I meant

[azure oriole]

Personally I can excuse the lack of post-game content because the campaign itself is virtually perfect. That's just me though.

[fringe torrent]

I don't need the DLC now, I don't want them to keep pushing shit out one after another, I am indifferent about a delay. What I said, and I quote is, "I hate to agree but I feel the same way" to Papaya saying "TDA is fun but the lack of post-endgame content is a real problem."

Deciphering that statement gives you the information that I am not happy with the current amount of postgame content and nothing else

[visual mirage]

id rather focuses in “balancing” a game they already released instead of working in the dlc

[tame topaz]

All Im thankful for is them deciding against reducing ammo caps for some weapons.

[fringe torrent]

I don't think it was what you said about Eternal as much as what you were saying around it. I hate to admit but you did come off as somewhat passive aggressive about a simple misunderstanding and I hope we won't see that in future conversations moving forward

[tame topaz]

Having less rockets would've been stupid.

[astral hamlet]

yeah, cuz tweaking encounter balance and dlc work can't happen at the same time

[tame topaz]

What misunderstanding was there?

[olive moss]

my biggest problem with eternal is its ripatorium because its locked after you beat the game

[astral hamlet]

I never used the ripatorium besides the one time you're forced to

[fringe torrent]

Me saying that I think Eternal didn't improve on everything and you understanding it as me saying it improved on nothing, that was the misunderstanding

[astral hamlet]

I don't even know what it does lol

[visual mirage]

And pissing off speedrunners as well

[tame topaz]

DE's Ripatorium and Horde mode were so unfathomably shit.

[astral hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

who cares, honestly

[olive moss]

the horde mode wasnt that bad but eternal’s ripatorium… 😬

which is a shame because the arena was great

[visual mirage]

Bug fixing should be their priority instead 😇

[tame topaz]

Well I also never did say it improved on everything, I just cited ways in which it improved upon it, mostly gameplay focused because DE is naturally more combat-oriented. I never claimed either game was perfect or trash.

[astral hamlet]

bug fixing is literally the stuff that pisses off speedrunners lol

[visual mirage]

Nah that would be adding unnecessary invisible walls and shit

[fringe torrent]

You didn't say it improved on everything, someone else did, my message that it didn't was in response to them

[astral hamlet]

charging the pulverizer off of a door frame is a bug, but of course speedrunners want to keep it in

[fringe torrent]

That's doable?

[astral hamlet]

yes

[fringe torrent]

Weird

[astral hamlet]

or at least it was, not sure if it is anymore

[fringe torrent]

id Tech strikes again

[tame topaz]

Oh okay, I missed that.

[tame topaz]

I mean yeah it's not hurting the intended experience for casual players, requires previous knowledge of the game and knowledge to use, and it's a single player game.

[austere bronze]

nice

[tame topaz]

I don't think something like that needs to be patched out.

[visual mirage]

id treats their game like they are competitive multiplayer games lmao

[fringe torrent]

Maybe the Quake III muscle memory is kicking in

[visual mirage]

modern id*

[astral hamlet]

well, I'd never purposefully leave a bug in my code just because the result is funny

but that's just me

[austere bronze]

you'd destroy eternal💔

[visual mirage]

Reaver base damage reduced from 420 to 69

[tame topaz]

Arrowhead treats Helldivers 2 like it's a PVP game instead of PVE and balances the weapons after one. It could always, always be worse.

[sturdy crypt]

I want to die. I was playing Doom Eternal on Xbox One and my game reset. I lost all my achievements in the game. And the progress in my ultra nightmare campaign 😭

[austere bronze]

oh what the hell😭

[astral hamlet]

yes, a couple balance changes and some bug fixes equates to treating it like it's a multiplayer game, 100%

[astral hamlet]

well, at some point I'd probably accept that my code is built on bugs and I'd leave it the hell alone

[visual mirage]

They tried to remove fse in Etenal

And yeethooking as well

On singleplayer

[astral hamlet]

honestly I totally understand where they're coming from as someone who's studying computer science rn
the knee jerk reaction when you see a bug is to fix the bug, because it causes unintended consequences and could mess up stuff down the line, plus you want your piece of software to be as bug-free as possible

most studios would just patch the bug and nothing more would be said about it, but at least id is more receptive in that they listen to their playerbase about whether or not said bug should be left in

[ebon elbow]

a bug people rely on is effectively a feature

[visual mirage]

Idk people also complained about them adding invisible walls but they kept adding more lol

And the funniest thing is that speedrunner dont even play on current patch

[austere bronze]

well yeah

[astral hamlet]

why would speedrunners play on current patch

[austere bronze]

speedrunners basically never play current patch

[astral hamlet]

Their whole schtick is exploiting every glitch available

just because it’s a single player game, that doesn’t mean that id is just banned from fixing shit in their piece of software

[visual mirage]

So they were just wasting time by adding them instead of focusing on real game breaking bugs like blood punch not working at all or the falter system being crap

[austere bronze]

what

[astral hamlet]

ignoring the fact that id literally pushed multiple patches trying to address those issues

[visual mirage]

They sure did

Shame it was too late for that

https://youtu.be/1q-WUSdzjM0?si=rfYLha4kLHGs1BmC

[ebon elbow]

awesome, what did you think?

[visual mirage]

Good ol times

[pseudo hare]

I would like to point out how contrary to the model shown in the game the classic marines aren't wearing jeans, it's part of their armor

Why can't I post links from the cutting room floor?

It was just the original concept art for the Marines in Doom 1 that shows their pants are part of the armor

[elfin field]

hi guys in eternal it doesnt let me go online cuz it says it cant contact game services? Does anyone know what the problem is?

[astral hamlet]

Are you playing with mods installed

[elfin field]

i disabled them and after that ver. the game files

[astral hamlet]

Hmm, not sure then

[ebon elbow]

I've had that happen before, usually when I accidentally leave the game on overnight or something. Try restarting the game or even the pc

could also be their servers acting funky

[elfin field]

did both multiple times

[elfin field]

probably

[ebon elbow]

in which case not much you can do besides wait

I wish this game allowed you to tame a caco

[visual mirage]

Nudoom modding is dead

Try classic doom modding instead

[austere bronze]

much appreciated comment

[ebon elbow]

haven't played classic doom in ages, maybe I'll get back into it again

[astral hamlet]

It kinda sorta does
There’s an exploit where you can stagger a caco then hop on top of it

[ebon elbow]

oh yea I remember seeing that in a speedrun or something

[ebon elbow]

or maybe a no dmg run

[austere bronze]

https://youtu.be/2Nfbt8hfH-Y?si=hcRkJmgUgJ5CV4qr&t=1085

yeah you can just hop on cacos lol

and they try to go to you (up) so you just go higher and higher

[ebon elbow]

yeah that must have been it ty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FUP8O8KIlE

[austere bronze]

don't think it's been used in a speedrun due to how slow it is

[visual mirage]

The type of shit you have to do just to beat unreclaimed earth

[fringe torrent]

Wow that music mixing sucks

[visual mirage]

I disagree

[austere bronze]

i always skip those 2 encounters

feels so pointless

haven't played unreclaimed in a while tho

[visual mirage]

I miss the times when that encounter was bugged
There used to be a buff totem in there but it overwrote the possessed effect of the tyrant

[spice wagon]

you guys need help with doom eternals online trophies

[spiral shard]

I just started eternal today for the first time (late as heck) but I got it on my switch and started my first ever run in the game ever currently doing nightmare. So far it’s been a good start surprisingly lol. I just use gyro to aim.

[austere bronze]

damn good luck, nightmare first run is wild

[spiral shard]

I wanted to try ultra but I was like eh let’s not over kill. lol

[fierce wave]

I'm doing it and it's honestly not as hard as I thought

[austere bronze]

damn lol

[winter sentinel]

I wish you the best of luck in Eternal I beat it on nightmare mode however not ultra nightmare

Any advice to beating doom eternal on ultra nightmare mode?

[astral hamlet]

watch devo's UN walkthrough on youtube

[winter sentinel]

Alr ty

[austere bronze]

yeah other than just using predetermined strategies, it just comes down to improving at the game

[winter sentinel]

Hmm I always replay missions without any cheats so ima try restarting the game itself for it

[odd crest]

how to quick swap on doom eternal mouse keyboard

[astral hamlet]

basic quick swapping like ssg-ballista just requires you to hold down the fire button and alternate between pressing weapon hotkeys

swaps that rely on FSE like pb-rocket, pb-ssg, etc, don't really work if you hold down mouse1, so you kinda just have to develop a feel for when to release which button to make the swaps fluid

[odd crest]

could you recommend an efficient set of keybinds? i doubt the default ones are very effective

[visual mirage]

Bind mouse 2 to jump

[odd crest]

i don't have mouse buttons

[olive moss]

do not do that

[visual mirage]

Bind all your weapon bindings close to your movement keys

[astral hamlet]

it comes down to preference
but I'd recommend moving the weapon wheel binding from Q to somewhere else, since as a kb&m player you essentially don't use the weapon wheel at all unless you're going some more specialized stuff
generally speaking, the heavy weapons that you'll be swapping between (heavy cannon, rocket launcher, ballista, ssg) should be as close to WASD as possible

if you've got a mouse with multiple side buttons it can be helpful to bind your equipment to those buttons, since it helps a bit mentally to separate weapons and equipment

[tame topaz]

Both of those work by holding down M1 too.

[astral hamlet]

kind of
you can't go back and forth pb-rocket-pb-rocket by holding down mouse1, whereas you can with ssg ballista

but yeah, a single pb-rocket does work if you hold down the fire button

[dim dragon]

Nightmare is a new levell

Stuck on capture 3. Tough for sure

On Xbox

[elfin field]

i cant connect to my bethesda account in Eternal for a 4-5 hours now, did anyone else have this issue beffore?

says its constantly unable to contact game services

[astral hamlet]

not sure there's much to do besides either wait or submit a tech support ticket to bethesda

their account servers kinda go down every so often

[elfin field]

that happens often or?

[astral hamlet]

yeah it does

thankfully once you connect it generally just stays connected

[elfin field]

i see, tysm

[fallow folio]

hello 😄

im new in the server

so i wanna ask if someone can help with the achivements of battle mode

thanks

[spiral shard]

Tbh

The nightmare mode is not that hard. Idk. Like yeah of course i died once or twice already but I was expecting to be stuck or something.

[austere bronze]

get good keybinds, practice, and i think it helps to have at least a basic understanding of quick swapping works

for binds, have everything close to WASD, but numbers are worse to bind things to, binding things to the mouse is a good idea, but i wouldn't recommend binding any weapons the scroll wheel

[scenic axle]

If you have a good amount of fps experience it’s not that difficult, but for most people it’s really hard

[pallid cairn]

Isn't anyone upset that Invasion mode is cancelled? Because this is coming from a Pandemic that never should've happened in the first place.

[south tartan]

does anyone else have issues with present stalls for eternal? my game's framerates decay from 300 to 20 after 1-2 minutes in-game and then spams like 4 nvlddmkm 153's and crashes. doesnt happen in dark ages.

[fallen trench]

haven’t seen that

what platform are you using?

also in the cultist base how do you do that one elevator jump?

[south tartan]

Win 11, 24H2 26100.7171, GeForce Driver 581.94 RTX5070 8GB laptop wired to 1080p external

[spiral shard]

Well I beat my first slayer gate in nightmare on switch o:

[scenic axle]

Nice!!

[visual mirage]

Always blame nvidia drivers

[ebon elbow]

in addition to finding comfy keybinds, it comes down to feeling out comfortable "low-tension" motions with your hand. if you've ever played an instrument like piano you'll know that tension management is key to playing well. it's a very similar concept for the more complex combos here

don't just move your fingers in isolation. coordinate your fingers, wrist, forearm so that they all do a little bit of the work. it makes keeping the rhythm so much easier

(not to mention that it helps with injury reduction)

[torn copper]

When I watched most of speedrunning videos, why most of them barely even do glory kills?

[elder raft]

glory kills are slower

slow the pace down

[verbal sorrel]

any tips for improving in Eternal? nightmare is a headache

[elder raft]

Quick swap alot, abuse the ever living shit out of meathook, dash and double jump and lastly, know which enemy to prioritise

[verbal sorrel]

that's all?

[elder raft]

Not much else to it. You just gotta be quick. All senses sharpened. As long as you're fast and spam the ever living shit outta demons with your guns then you'll be fine.

Also, this works more for doom the dark ages but works here too. you do better the more aggressive you are. If you get low, don't panic and run. Stand and fight

[verbal sorrel]

wow...

thanks for your time brother

i appreciate it quite a lot

[elder raft]

No worries

[verbal sorrel]

[austere bronze]

there's quite a lot of different things, if you want i can give you some general tips, but if you can send gameplay i can look at to give more "direct" tips

[austere bronze]

they take time
but even for normal gameplay, you want to minimize the glory kills you need to do

generally, higher level gameplay entails less glory killing

[verbal sorrel]

yes, i prefer direct ones

[austere bronze]

do you have any gameplay you can share via for example youtube then?

[verbal sorrel]

no

[austere bronze]

i can only give direct tips if i can see your gameplay

[verbal sorrel]

if you want, i can do it these days, just tell me a level of the game and i'll send you gameplay.

[austere bronze]

i mean, it doesn't really matter to me
but if you're gonna record gameplay, final sin is probably the best place for it

[verbal sorrel]

i play on PlayStation, lol

[thick laurel]

I'm just starting to look into the differences between frame rates in this game - I've been playing around 240fps for a long time and learned that the game gets harder with higher fps. How would I limit my fps to something lower?

I saw people saying around 30-60 is the sweet spot for how the game was designed

[fringe torrent]

If you have an NVIDIA GPU I know the control panel they offer has an FPS cap feature built-in

[thick laurel]

I'm trying to find that now, do you know if that's something I could set specifically for the game? Or would I have do set that before/after playing each time

Ok I think I found it

[fringe torrent]

The panel isn't opening up for me for some reason so I can't tell you if you can set it for this game only but I know that any changes you make are permanent and won't need to be reset

[thick laurel]

I have to test it but its looking like I can set it differently for any executable

[fringe torrent]

The panel is great, I appreciate the setting for letterboxing games

[austere bronze]

you definitively don't wanna be at 30

120-150 can be good

[astral hamlet]

120 is the best spot imo

[visual mirage]

DOOM: The Dark Ages experience

[fringe torrent]

30fps is tolerable 😌

[pearl crest]

I just buyed doom eternal and it doesn't work

[fringe torrent]

How does it not work

Doesn't launch?

[pearl crest]

nope

it doesn't

[vernal steeple]

hi I would like to report an issue with DOOM Eternal. I completed the entire campaign on the standard difficulty level, but I did not receive the achievement for finishing the game.

Could you please look into this issue and help me resolve it? If needed, I can provide additional information such as save files, screenshots, or any other data. can you help me i play on xbox series x

[vast star]

did you maybe play on extra life mode by accident?

[vernal steeple]

no i dont use any boost

[vast star]

thats really weird

[fringe torrent]

Were you online? Only thing I can think of

[vernal steeple]

when i was play final mission , final boss fight my internet drop and i play offilne

[fringe torrent]

Yeah Xbox achievements can be fucky if you get the criteria offline

[visual mirage]

Pretty sure the achievements are tied to the ingame milestones
Once you complete a milestone but the achievement pop-up doesnt trigger for whatever reason you wont be able to get the achievement even if you complete the whole game again

[fringe torrent]

Eternal does it weird

Master level completions are tied to the rewards. I got a pixel icon as a Battlemode reward and as a result it thinks I beat Taras Nabad ML

(Or World Spear, one of those)

[visual mirage]

Unless you delete your profile save
Idk if its possible to do it on console though

[fringe torrent]

You can only make a brand new one if it's on a brand new account

In theory you should be able to wipe your local and cloud saves to accomplish this actually

But that's high risk

[visual mirage]

iirc I saw someone do that in this server

The only thing you would be losing would be your level and milestones

Earned cosmetics will remain

[vernal steeple]

i wrtoe to xbox support but they told me go to bethesda 😆

[pseudo hare]

@azure oriole so from my understanding of both Doom and Quake lore there's alternate universes but only one hell

so would probably be strange if said universes had their own set of demons like multiple Baphomet Icons of Sins and what not

[azure oriole]

As far as Doom lore goes, yes. Quake isn't my thing so much, and I'm not as into that.

But yes in Doom there is only one Hell.

[pseudo hare]

I thought they shared the same cosmology

Also I meant to post this in general lol

Also also what's Absolute Doom

[azure oriole]

They reference each other sometimes, but modern Doom is mainly just concerned with itself. If there's any serious connections between them, they haven't concretely presented themselves yet.

[storm eagle]

Thanks, yeah this is more for #general chat for sure

[azure oriole]

Like Quake Champions has Doomguy but it's, like, haha wacky crossover shit that isn't actually concerned with matching Doom.

[graceful current]

errmm there are multiple icons 🤓

[graceful current]

pretty sure hugo said rn there are no plans to actually connect the two

[azure oriole]

I can't blame him.

[azure oriole]

A novel-sized guide to Doom's universe and lore I wrote.

[pseudo hare]

Wait there are? I thought the ones in Plutonia and TNT were meant to be their own titan

[storm eagle]

#general

please

[pseudo hare]

Sorry

[storm eagle]

thank ya

[carmine tartan]

@azure oriole I have a couple questions, because I've always been pretty confused about this stuff.

• How did the Divinity Machine revive Marauders? Are they too imbued with Davoth's power, or is this something tied solely to Doomguy?

• This one probably doesn't matter, but when/how was the Divinity Machine destroyed? I thought it short-circuited or something when it was used to empower Doomguy back when I first played, but this obviously can't be the case.

[azure oriole]

1. The Divinity Machine was powered by the shard of Davoth, and used on many Sentinels before it was used on the Slayer, but all this did is drive them crazy and/or kill them. While it's implied the shard was transferred to Doomguy, the machine remained functional and was used to revive the Marauders somehow without the shard. As far as we know, only Doomguy is imbued with this power.
2. We don't know. IMO, the actual room and the Machine being modeled to be broken was obviously modeled with the intent that Doomguy going through it broke it, and I think whoever wrote the codex entry for the Marauders missed that. So what we're left with is the presumption that she revived a bunch of Marauders until the machine finally broke.

[carmine tartan]

Thanks, that's helpful. I personally believe that the Maykrs had it destroyed for whatever reason, but who knows.

The idea that it broke after being used on a bunch of Marauders is really funny to me for some reason. I can't imagine being the last guy; you'd never hear the end of it...

[azure oriole]

LOL. No wonder they're so pissed.

[carmine tartan]

Lmao that must be it. It's like a roommate overloading the washing machine.

[untold shoal]

Can you last 500 or 1000 hours in classic doom without mods without getting bored

[storm eagle]

Ask in the classic doom channel

[visual mirage]

gaming

[visual mirage]

DOOM Eternal cant be this unloved

[ebon elbow]

30 would feel like an absolute slideshow lol. the upsides of higher fps def outweigh the downsides. you'll get used to the sometimes-teleporting enemies

[halcyon ravine]

They shoul add an astronaut doomslayer skin to eternal

not like the praetor suit but like an actual astronaut suit

like an actual astronaut with a grenade launcher on its back and the doomblade on the wrist

[pale echo]

I just beat Doom Eternal for the first time ehehehehe

[junior lagoon]

Nice

[visual mirage]

I forgot how awful climbing is on version 1.0

[pale echo]

How many of you guys actually recommend the 2 dlcs for ancient gods

[wicked ridge]

I’d say play it for experience, TAG 1 is good until its finale but TAG 2 is undercooked

[west shadow]

i have a problem that makes doom eternal unplayable can someone help me?

[teal jay]

tag 1 is great

[teal jay]

sorry for late response, what’s up

i can help you

[west shadow]

thank you for responding so let me get this straight. so like when finishing a mission my game crashes

no matter what i do its still crashing

i finished this game 3 times and i dont know why this happening now

[teal jay]

what platform are you on

it’s ok i’ve had this bug before too

[west shadow]

i played taras nabad master level yesterday (because i can not play horde or story mode) i complete it and my game crashed at the end all my pain went poof

[teal jay]

ah that’s tough

[west shadow]

wdym like pc?

[teal jay]

yeah

[west shadow]

yeah pc

[teal jay]

if your on pc that’s great

ok so,

you should first tell me what kind of graphic card you have

[west shadow]

nvidia 4060

[teal jay]

if it’s an outdated one, that could be bad

ok what about GPU driver

[west shadow]

ion think 4060 outdated

uhhhhhhhh i5 13 i suppose

[teal jay]

i5 13, ok

[west shadow]

like i said i finished this game 3 times before

i even have golden bounty lord slayer skin

[teal jay]

ok i get it, so

your save file is probably corrupted

don’t freak out

[west shadow]

my save file?

[teal jay]

ok take this to dms, slow mode is making this hard to explain

[west shadow]

aight

[full summit]

[stray coral]

[full summit]

[stray coral]

https://tenor.com/view/people-dont-even-say-bless-you-anymore-boisvert-captioned-gif-caption-burningmp4-gif-16961465691906275831

[full summit]

[full summit]

[elder raft]

[full summit]

[stray coral]

0-0

my phone number is 666

[full summit]

Kxe2

[verbal sorrel]

that profile picture... I love it

[stray coral]

ima brb gonna go get a butter beer

[full summit]

[stray coral]

got it

[verbal sorrel]

better to bring something for everyone

[elder raft]

Why's the whiplash kinda

[verbal sorrel]

[elder raft]

...

[stray coral]

https://tenor.com/view/wizarding-world-harry-potter-harry-potter-land-wizarding-world-of-harry-potter-universal-orlando-gif-12032323007086270165

time#

[full summit]

[stray coral]

got em

[verbal sorrel]

i cant take it

[stray coral]

why?

[verbal sorrel]

i'm 15

[stray coral]

:9

[verbal sorrel]

[full summit]

i am st

[verbal sorrel]

xd

[full summit]

[stray coral]

https://tenor.com/view/hagrid-harry-potter-gif-4545161252569523952

[verbal sorrel]

My Jesus

[elder raft]

[full summit]

no is me

[verbal sorrel]

hello bro

[verbal sorrel]

our

[elder raft]

Greetings

[stray coral]

hell

[full summit]

[stray coral]

ello

[verbal sorrel]

guys

[stray coral]

yeah?

[full summit]

[verbal sorrel]

for each person, which is the best Doom?

[stray coral]

1993

[verbal sorrel]

Yeah

for me, the second best

[stray coral]

i play people playground

[full summit]

all the doom exept doom3

[stray coral]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-people-playground-people-funny-laugh-gif-27081102

[full summit]

*

[verbal sorrel]

its not a bad game

a good game, but a bad doom

[stray coral]

nah

[elder raft]

The dark ages

[verbal sorrel]

i want to play it since it comes out

FUCK

[full summit]

doom 3 is medium

[stray coral]

the "cacodemon" in doom 3 ain't a cacodemon

[elder raft]

It's on sale. The best time is now

[stray coral]

BITCH

[verbal sorrel]

two things; i have no money and nothing to play it with either

[stray coral]

sad

[verbal sorrel]

but eternal comforts me

[stray coral]

should i be cacodemion boi?

[elder raft]

Ggs

[verbal sorrel]

[elder raft]

Yes

[stray coral]

mk brb

[verbal sorrel]

No

[elder raft]

You cannot stop the procession

[full summit]

me too

[verbal sorrel]

The Slayer wouldn't say the same thing

[stray coral]

boom

dfhjgweb6tg3ro8e

[elder raft]

We will not be able to control it!

[stray coral]

ldfigh ler tero8iy8erav4bn0345y3

[elder raft]

No!

[verbal sorrel]

BRO NO-

now who can save us?

[stray coral]

WHY HELP HEEELP

[elder raft]

Is bro speedrunning a mute for spam

[verbal sorrel]

Yeah :v

[stray coral]

NUAR

WAIT

[verbal sorrel]

Bro, stop

[full summit]

[stray coral]

is it daytime or nighttime for u guys

[verbal sorrel]

theyre going to mute you

[elder raft]

I miss that game man. It was so fun

[verbal sorrel]

idk

[stray coral]

idk to

[elder raft]

It is 2:30pm

[full summit]

i

[elder raft]

Grey as hell. Snowin'

[verbal sorrel]

in my opinion, that is "canon"

[full summit]

bfg

[elder raft]

Mighty doom? Yes

Maybe

[verbal sorrel]

:v

were supposed to be in the Doom Eternal channel, let's talk about that game

i love it with all my being

[elder raft]

It's good yeah

[verbal sorrel]

the best one that's ever been made

for me, at least

[elder raft]

I love it, i just love tda more

Eternal's also very exhausting after all the time i've spent on it

[verbal sorrel]

but the gameplay...

my god...

[elder raft]

It's good. Very good. But exhausting. So much concentration and button spam

[verbal sorrel]

I like it

thats very stimulating; it helps improve reflexes

[elder raft]

How many hours you got on it

[verbal sorrel]

give a second

82 hours and 49 minutes

[elder raft]

Ahh. Get a lil' more then you get it

[verbal sorrel]

[austere bronze]

i think it gets less exhausting to play if anything after more time

[elder raft]

opposite for me

[austere bronze]

how so? the more you play, the more things gets worked into muscle memory and done automatically, and you need to actively think about less things

eventually you can just autopilot the game completely

[elder raft]

the thing is that with my muscle memory, i always try my hardest because i'm used to nightmare. even on easy i lock tf in the whole time

and with how many arenas each level has. it gets exhausting quick

[austere bronze]

what does that have to do with muscle memory?
playing the game more makes more and more actions/decisions completely automatic, which both shifts and decreases what you think about

my default is autopilot, so eternal just ends up being extremely relaxing because i just think about whatever

nothing really changes if i lock in, except that i press my keys harder lol

[elder raft]

the way i play is the reason. i'm not saying it's the game's fault. i know it's mine. still doesn't change anything. i prefer TDA's because it's the perfect blend of chaotic fast ripping and tearing while not also being too much. when i play eternal. i quickswap alot, dash alot, grapple alot. it's just alot

[austere bronze]

i do absolutely agree that eternal can be a very exhausting game to play, but it gets less so when you play more

dam that sent late lol

[storm wolf]

it is a lot, but when you get used to it somewhat, some parts are SO fun

[elder raft]

i have over 100 hours on the game. i think like 160. i've completed almost everything it has to offer and what's left, i don't wanna do. think for now my time with eternal's done

[storm wolf]

yeah, that makes sence

but lets talk about the music too

that shit slaps

[elder raft]

it's pretty good yeah

[austere bronze]

mods :p

[elder raft]

i rarely use mods for games. only game i mod is minecraft. everything else is too technical for me to care about

[storm wolf]

i honestly dont play it with them, it can ruin the game

[storm wolf]

yeah

wait

[austere bronze]

eternal literally has the official mod portal😭 you just press on the mods tab, choose a mod, press download, and then play with it

it's the easiest thing ever

[storm wolf]

is there a doom mod for minecraft?

[elder raft]

i saw it, and it honestly overwhelmed me 😭

[storm wolf]

damn that was late

i didnt even open it

[austere bronze]

thr amount of mods or wha

[elder raft]

tried one with a bfg 9k once

[elder raft]

idk. everything

[storm wolf]

how was it?

[elder raft]

blew shit up pretty good

[storm wolf]

sounds great

[austere bronze]

you literally just press the mods tab, go to a mod you want, press it, press download, go to play, press the mod so it goes into active, and then press play with mods

[storm wolf]

yeah its nuts

[austere bronze]

it's probably easier than shopping online lol

[elder raft]

read that for yourself and imagine you're someone who knows jackshit about modding

[austere bronze]

i know how it reads, because literally anything you want to describe in words will sound a lot, but you don't need any modding knowledge to do it

[elder raft]

even so. how would mods improve the experience

[austere bronze]

tons of custom master levels and maps

and skins, musix changes, QoL, etc, if you're interested in that

[elder raft]

my experience with master levels is i think why i think the gameplay is exhausting. i once tried the world spear master level and i legit gave up and quit because when i thought i was finally done with it, it threw me into another arena 😭

[storm wolf]

the only thing I would use mods for is to make the visor not transparent

[austere bronze]

TWL kinda sux

the ML, but also just the level in general

[elder raft]

i think the normal level is just fine. nothing good or bad about it

my favorite level is Urdak

[austere bronze]

also, if you ever wanna download mods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSkfglBD7WM

[austere bronze]

it got really cool arenas and environment, but it just got too much traversal for me

[elder raft]

too much traversal? in doom eternal?

THE fast paced shooter?

[austere bronze]

what

[elder raft]

how does a level in a traversal game got too much traversal

[nova cairn]

urdak is a gerat level but the makyr drone headshots make it a bit easy tbf

my favourite level is final sin, kind of no platforming and all fights

[elder raft]

it makes up for it with the toughest arenas in the main game

[nova cairn]

not the toughest imo but sitll pretty tough

i died frequently there on my ultra nightmare attempts

[elder raft]

which are the toughest then?

[nova cairn]

the arena with the manacubus next to the two shield guys with the stairs on the right going up finding a cacodemon and a revenent going back theres a ledge where you fall down for some more health pickups going right up on the stairs to find a hell knight and going forward theres a whiplash i think i got the details correctly

in the cultist base

[elder raft]

just name the level 😭

[elder raft]

eh. i wouldn't say any of the arenas in that level were that hard

[nova cairn]

some other encounters like the first doom hunter arena with the pinky, the revenent next to it, with a bunch of fodder demons and pinkys which if you kill all manacubus and arachnotrons spawn in (i find it very tough), the encounter in nekravol prt 2 with the eyeballs and camera adjusts, and some others i dont remember enoughj details of

oh wait arachnotrons spawn in before the manacubus i got that detail wrong

[austere bronze]

wdym traversal game😭

i'm referring to platforming, not in-arena traversal

[elder raft]

look me in the eyes and tell me doom eternal is not a traversal game

[austere bronze]

i wholeheartedly dislike maykr drones

[bright crane]

Ahhhh, decided to come back to the game and do more RIP AND TEAR. Good lord, those Master levels tho. Took me a while just to get through the Super Gore Nest one and get the Classic Green skin.

[fringe torrent]

Worth it though, that skin is dope

[bright crane]

Oh it is, and gives great continuity for the Slayer. Still rocking his old colors even in new armor.

Can't go wrong with the good ol' gray helmet.

[austere bronze]

since when is doom eternal focused around platforming

combat is the main part

[nova cairn]

platforming is just a fun little pace breaker in the middle of the combat

[bright crane]

True, but there is light platforming elements, especially when secret hunting.

[nova cairn]

if it was just constant fight fight fight the average player would be having a heart attack

[elder raft]

traversal does not only mean platforming

[nova cairn]

with how intense the combat is

platforming is built to calm down and reinforce the buttons needed for it to help you in combat

[austere bronze]

#doom-eternal message

[elder raft]

then just say platforming 😭

[bright crane]

Right, just a bit to mix up the regular mulching of demons.

[austere bronze]

sure, but it find it boring

[astral hamlet]

Pretty much everything in final sin, exultia, cultist base, also the tricky arena with two cyber mancs and a pain elemental in taras nabad

[elder raft]

exultia??

[astral hamlet]

Exultia is a frickin pain

[austere bronze]

the platforming sections are both very easy and doesn't train the same skills that movement in combat requires

[astral hamlet]

No health, no armor, no ammo, and your dash cooldown is super long

Also the exultia slayer gate can be enormous amounts of cancer

[elder raft]

well if we're counting your level at that point then the subway station in hell on earth might take the cake

[astral hamlet]

Well yeah I thought your current level played a role in how hard the arena is
I didn’t think we were purely talking about enemy composition

If enemy composition were the only metric, then final sin wins that contest every day and twice on tuesdays

[elder raft]

you know. i honestly forgot that one's arenas until now. yeah. final sin wins

[bright crane]

You know, I wonder if they'll give away the Slayer Club point-based rewards since those are no longer a system that exists.

[fringe torrent]

You used to be able to ask Bethesda Support to attach them to your account; maybe they still do that

[bright crane]

Oh? Huh.

Maybe I should ask em.

[bright crane]

Aaaaaand Bethesda support seems to be down, the page is saying "missing mandatory parameters".

Can anyone else kindly check and see if they get the same error?

[scenic axle]

NEW LEVELSSSSSS

GIVE ME CBT LEVELS THAT MAKE ME RIP MY HAIR OUT TRYING TO BEAT THEM

RAHHHHHH

[bold river]

i wish that if you died in an UN attempt of a master level you didnt have to just go back to the menu and instead could just restart like the campaign.

[fringe torrent]

Inconvenience is part of the pain apparently

[visual mirage]

In DOOM Eternal each death has something to teach the player

[void delta]

Is it just me or does DOOM Eternal crash alot?

[storm eagle]

Not just you, happens to almost everyone

[fringe torrent]

Perk of console gaming I guess. Only had like five crashes this year across all of my games

[void delta]

It still crashes for me tho and im on ps5 😭

[astral hamlet]

Actually it never crashes for me on PC
It does have a lot of bugs though

[fringe torrent]

Okay perk of Xbox gaming then? I guess? 😭

I don't know what the actual difference could be

[void delta]

Lol idk

[visual mirage]

Invisible walls are far more important than fixing softlocks and crashes

[void delta]

Idk about that lol

[bold sphinx]

some time ago i did an argentas palady milestone but didn't get any rewards from that (im on ps5) Does anyone know how to fix it or contact support?

[void delta]

Have you tried doing it again?

[bold sphinx]

But how?

[visual mirage]

Bro has to delete his whole profile save and do each milestone again

[bold sphinx]

Bruh

I dont think i will do that

[visual mirage]

Honestly just contact bethesda support

[bold sphinx]

And there is problem

[visual mirage]

They might give you the actual reward

[teal jay]

bethesda support works surprisingly

[bold sphinx]

Idk how to find it

[visual mirage]

I remember when I had to contact them because I didnt receive some battlemode 2.0 rewards

[bold sphinx]

I tried and only some useless stuff

[visual mirage]

https://help.bethesda.net/#en/home

For some fucking reason it doesnt embed

[charred gale]

does anyone else get this bug where amd thinks doom eternal is hitman

[astral hamlet]

don't have an AMD, so no

[fringe torrent]

Replayed Eternal

Still peak

[scenic axle]

I never had crashing issues until I started playing slaughter maps, I think it just can’t handle them sometimes

[wicked ridge]

On PS5 my game ALWAYS crashes at the end of one of the Hell levels. Don’t remember which though

Its basically an iconic crash for me at this point

[whole wave]

Hey guys, Im having some strange issues with some really bad stutter/lag
5090
9800x3d
game runs flawlessly but then dips into the low 30s and rapidly declines, even freezing my entire pc at one point. this is the only game ive had this issue with. if i alt tab and tab back in that seems to fix it after a couple of seconds

[pale echo]

My next eternal run is just going to be me 100% the game ngl because I just wanted to get through it first LMAO

[visual mirage]

Do it without mastery tokens

[void delta]

I just started playing the Ancient Gods and now Im starting to see how it suffered from COVID

[jolly kernel]

has anyone here used the mod injector for using old mods for Eternal that were made before the official mod tools were released? I used it for some Battlemode demon skins in singleplayer mods

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358382750851399871/1443485494540374066/Screenshot_20251127_091601.jpg?ex=69293e20&is=6927eca0&hm=bee48594419467ae281a4ef6cba02793cfc898bacfaa571a267a64cbdfb9e6d7&

Lumberjack Marauder in singleplayer 🔥

[olive moss]

this should have been an official feature lol

[olive moss]

whats one master level you guys wish could have been added/made

for me its hell on earth, urdak, blood swamps, and immora

[bold sphinx]

Hell on earth

[olive moss]

out of all of the campaign levels its hell on earth or urdak for me

cant decide

[austere bronze]

uac atlantica would've been baller

i think the biggest issue with hell on earth as an ml is that the level really wasn't made with end-game equipment in mind

urdak or final sin are the two base game levels i would've loved to see getting official master level

[azure oriole]

Sentinel Prime, Atlantica, Immora.

[charred gale]

urdak master would be the best level in the game

urdak is already the best campaign level

is there a mod with a custom urdak master level out there

I may have to look for one

[charred gale]

what would sentinel prime master even be