doom-eternal

[boreal shoal]

The world spear is just not too replayable atleast for me

It's so crowded with insane combat sections and lasers and stuff that it's just exhausting to play

Mars core is like perfect in that aspect

The combat sections are balanced just right to be engaging and fairly difficult but not overwhelming like the world spear

[austere bronze]

i like all the enemies and utilization of map hazards, but the drawn out battles are super meh and i don't like the arena design of the level

[astral hamlet]

for me two arenas make it much worse for me
the one with the respawning heavies around the 2 marauders is a real annoyance, because it's completely up to the marauder whether he actually decides to let you damage him or not, and he always seems to wait until the heavies all respawn until he actually decides to engage you, which isn't incredibly often anyways because the arena already has very little open areas
and obviously the final fight is just way too long for no reason

[austere bronze]

splash damage->feet ballista/lock-on redirect my goats

[maiden gale]

Any advice on how to get behind a pinky more easily?

[astral hamlet]

you have a bunch of ways to stun them--heat blast, microwave beam, chaingun shield, ice/frag grenade, also a sticky bomb or rocket aimed at the floor behind them will falter them

just use a dash to flank them

[boreal shoal]

Honestly i love the final fight

It is really long, but it never feels that way

I just enter a flow state everytime there

But yeah the double marauder one can be really annoying

Call me a coward if you want, but i actually don't kill the cyber mancubus at the start to prevent the 2nd marauder from spawning

Makes it much less frustrating

[astral hamlet]

neither do I tbh
it's just very annoying when the marauder only decides to attack you when he's flanked by his hell knight/whiplash entourage and immediately backs off once you kill them

[boreal shoal]

Also dude speaking of marauder bugginess

Does that thing ever happen to you where the marauder's eye flashes, he's about to attack so you shoot, and then he changes his mind and just cancels himself midway

And brings up the shield out of nowhere

[astral hamlet]

yes

happens a lot on inclines for whatever reason

[tame topaz]

I just noticed this game is the only one in the new trilogy to have distinct designs for the soldiers.

I don't know why TDA reverted it to 2016 and just had the same model holding a shield.

A bit lame.

[astral hamlet]

well, in eternal shield soldiers were shotgunners, as opposed to the regular soldiers who had blasters
in TDA, the regular shield soldiers are the exact same soldiers as the non-shield soldiers, so it wouldn't make a ton of sense to give them different models
but obviously they did make a distinction with the chaingunner soldier, since that's kinda tda's equivalent of the shield soldier from eternal

[tame topaz]

I'm talking about the design specifically.

Eternal had 3 separate models for the soldier types, 2016 and TDA don't.

[urban plinth]

Just blood punch it

[astral hamlet]

aside from the chaingunner, doesn't eternal just have a normal blaster soldier and a shotgunner?

[tame topaz]

I mean the models are different. Green hairdo dude and bald sergeant in black armor.

And then full red black dude.

[candid dawn]

Eternal actually went out of its way to model the chainguns for them, not even the case for dark ages

[austere bronze]

often best thing you can do is just let them naturally run under you

as you're probably spending a significant portion of time in the air

[kind basin]

Ye it's LAME, I wanted the chaingunner to be black and buff

The zombies are also the same model

Whereas in 2016 and eternal they had quite a few variants

ID is cuttin' some corners

[tame topaz]

Also I like how the zombies in 2016 would headbutt if they lost their arms. And in Eternal the demons are so angry they'll still keep fighting with half their face missing because they're extra durable and REFUSE to die. In TDA the demons just... stare at you.

[kind basin]

I forgot zombies did that

I was wondering why ppl expected demons with no arms to do smt

I forgot they did in previous installments although it was just the zombie

[tame topaz]

I mean they could bite, kick or headbutt. Anything but stand there and follow the player doing nothing.

[kind basin]

At the same time it makes for some funny bits

Maybe make it toggleable

[tame topaz]

They could've made new attacks but didn't, it just screams lazy to me man idk.

[kind basin]

Ye they def cut some corners for the new installment

They're minor, but they're there

I just wanted a traditional chaingunner for once

[unique vale]

It was my first time playing Doom Eternal, but I was expecting more from the zombies

[tame topaz]

Chaingunners in TDA suck, they're not really hard like the OG ones which come in numbers and shoot if they have line of sight, they're just kinda annoying the way they're 100% accurate at any distance.

[tame topaz]

Which ones?

[unique vale]

Hold on

The first one

[tame topaz]

They're the same as 2016s zombies just better balanced.

[unique vale]

Yea

[kind basin]

I think they're decent, but here's how they can be better:
Design: ye no reskin just make him the classic version
Gameplay:
•accuracy decreases with distance,
•instead of the shield he has dash boots
•a baton that disables your shield upon hitting you.

But hey it's better than TAG's

Which is a low bar

[frosty sky]

4 dollar game

Still not buying it because my PC would explode upon opening it

[ornate agate]

Should I murder the icon of sin on ultra violence since I now learned most of the gameplay

[visual mirage]

Ultra nightmare

[scarlet pier]

So I'm playing Eternal for the first time (only ever played classic) and it's crazy how the Caco isn't just a flying imp with pinky durability now

He's kinda actually a threat. And I hate it so much lol. His three fireballs always catch me off guard.

I think the reason I never played 2016 was to be it just seemed like a weird modernized take of the original game

[graceful current]

I’m sorry what

You’re saying Cacos are a threat in Eternal?

The game where you can just instakill them 😭❓

[scarlet pier]

Sorry, I mean moreso than classic doom

[graceful current]

fair they look more menacing

i dont think theyve ever been more menacing than in 2016 though they're proper freaky there

[scarlet pier]

Their new kit is gonna take some getting used to

[fathom cloud]

ALL of the demons are way more menacing in 2016

cyberdemon lwk on some villainous type stuff

[scarlet pier]

Just finished Horde mode

Don't think I've had a more infuriating and miserable single player experience

I've never had a non PVP mode make me rage so much

[boreal shard]

Where can i post my art

[fathom cloud]

#artwork

[ebon elbow]

if you slip up and forget their spawn locations, they can definitely be a threat in ultra nightmare

their bites do a lot of damage and can easily end your run

[storm eagle]

sticky bombs exist

[astral hamlet]

well, considering you just started playing eternal for the first time, and horde mode is meant for players who have beaten the game and preferably the 2 dlcs, this is understandable

[scenic axle]

They are stupid easy to kill, they’re just one of the most problematic enemies if you forget about them.

[graceful current]

true true

[graceful current]

tbh i also hate horde mode because eternal is way too buggy for it

one glitch and you've wasted like 2 hours of your life

[astral hamlet]

idk it gives you a bajillion extra lives

so even if you get caught in a death loop by a blood maykr you can still salvage a run lmao

[graceful current]

i dont mean like bugs that kill you i mean like softlocks which it has a surprising level of

[astral hamlet]

huh
never gotten softlocked in horde mode

[graceful current]

i literally have i have no clue how but it irritates me bad

it's fun when it works tho

[visual mirage]

Holy shit its Elmo

[storm eagle]

rip my pfp

[rugged flax]

Yeah

I remember those moments

[storm eagle]

my elmo pic?

I miss it sometimes but this one of Anton matches my mood more lol

[rugged flax]

I mean it was what 2 months ago?

[storm eagle]

believe so

[warped sage]

Man Eternal is dirt cheap rn, there’s never been a better time for newcomers to hop onto the game.

Especially its modding support that probably will keep them glued for a little more.

I see this as a huge W.

[terse haven]

is multiplayer alive?

I'm new, so I was thinking of buying eternal

[visual mirage]

No

[median obsidian]

If you're new to doom, id suggest you finish doom 2016 first if you haven't, since eternal is a sequel

[boreal shoal]

Might just be a me a thing, but i played 2016 last after eternal and dark ages and it just felt so abysmally slow in comparison

[median obsidian]

If you don't care for story and only gameplay, that's fine too

[maiden gale]

Is it possible to kill the Gladiator with the crucible/beserk if you give yourself the necessary weapon/powerup using console commands?

[maiden gale]

Unfortunately i can't test this because im playing on ps4.

[warped sage]

Buy Eternal now while it’s hot, play it later after 2016

[high granite]

whats up

[median obsidian]

That's what I did, I bought the anthology

[scarlet pier]

I love playing DOOM II in Eternal. This is awesome.

I just imagine Slayer gaming while Earth burns down 😭

[austere bronze]

honestly it's kinda crazy how well completely unintended tech works together

like wack swaps, silent bats and fast destroyer blade

[urban plinth]

Dawg what

Straight gibberish

[astral hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/zl-gif-22933534

[austere bronze]

i mean... fairr

[urban plinth]

Fast swapping feels unnatural to me

Especially if i use the ballista since im used to using it for flying enemies

[austere bronze]

eternal dev team was unknowingly cooking up a 10x better game lol

imagine if we didn't even have pb+rocket...

[austere bronze]

yea that makes sense

soon it just becomes part of your muscle memeory though

[urban plinth]

Hopefully

Im also too addicted to the super shotgun

Nothing else feels that good

It depends if its fodder or not

[astral hamlet]

Well, the ssg has to be that good, or else there’d be basically no incentive to get close to enemies at all

Aside from occasional blood punches on cyber mancs/doom hunters

[austere bronze]

i don't get too much usage from the ssg, because of the somewhat close range requirement

[astral hamlet]

Yeah this exactly

[urban plinth]

I just meat hook to everything

[austere bronze]

but after detaching from a hook and before swapping away it's really nice to just get a shot off with it for free armor

can make it completely seamless with the right timing

[austere bronze]

i'd recommend using it mainly as a movement tool

[urban plinth]

What do i use then

[austere bronze]

repositioning, gaining momentum and getting into and staying in the air

[urban plinth]

Sticky bombs?

[austere bronze]

they're great yeah

my main consumption of shotgun pellets is from them

[urban plinth]

I mean makes sense

Splash damage helps out alot

[scarlet pier]

Isn't it crazy how doomguy has this blade on his arm but doesn't use it when you press the melee button

Only uses it in glorykills and cutscenes

[austere bronze]

and for more advanced combos and quick swaps, they're absolutely phenomenal

you can apply FSE (fast swap effect) to them, making the player able to swap with them super quick

plus a sticky crit (headshot or weak point hit) deals basically as much as a rocket

[candid dawn]

That's what I call a missed opportunity

[scarlet pier]

Supposedly it was so strong in 2016 they had to nerf it

But like... It's a single player arcade game? Isn't 1 damage per hit a little ridiculous?

Also it's also just kinda anticlimactic, cuz you're the fucking slayer and all you do is this limp twisted slap

And coming from Halo, it gets some getting used to because both melee and shooting is part of the core combat loop

[austere bronze]

nah it makes sense from a design perspective

[scarlet pier]

Well then by all means! Please regale me with your expertise! Oh wise game developer!!!

[austere bronze]

circlejerk is fun

apparently

[astral hamlet]

Distinction needed to be made between the regular melee and the charged melee

Probably would have just been better to not play the melee animation if you don’t have a blood punch charged instead of giving us an insult of a punch that deals exactly 1 damage but oh well

[kind basin]

Ye that's a good idea

Don't even bother showing regular melee

[tiny walrus]

I was wondering to anyone who still plays battle mode I need help for a milestone on ps5

[twin gale]

but then we wouldnt have punch swap

[kind basin]

True

[twin gale]

and we all know that the punch swap GLITCH was intentionally coded in

[tiny walrus]

I need help in battlemode so if anyone is willing to join tomorrow to help I’m making a private match on ps5 around 4 or 5 pm

[scenic axle]

the point of eternal is to use your vast weapon and tool arsenal to fight demons. In 2016 if you ran out of ammo you could just melee everything or use the pistol if you needed, and that's not fun. What's fun is blasting with the super shotgun, then going into a pb snipe, then rocketing something. They didn't want you to get used to relying on your punch because thats not as fun. Yes, it is weird that the doom slayer himself does no damage with his fists, but it makes sense from a gameplay perspective because its just not as fun to punch in this game.

they don't want you relying on the punch so they just removed it altogether, they gave you blood punch instead so you can do big powerful punches up close but not just spam them, thats using your equipment which is fun, spamming base punches is not

[dim solar]

If you ever ran out of ammo or saw yourself in the need of using the pistol past the tutorial in 2016, you were doing something extremely wrong

Just saying

[scarlet pier]

Fair enough

[harsh bough]

Not gonna lie, the dark Lord in doom eternal is a pretty tough guy-

[austere bronze]

not to mention how it's completely useless to anyonr who knows something about staggering fodder

the base punch dealing damage would be antithetical to eternal's design, but not majorly since it's a small mechanic

[visual hornet]

Sub to my YouTube! At CaptainEvok in yt, you'll find all you need to know on how to be a better eternal player!

I just need to post more

[final oracle]

Hi how do i make the mouse movement more consistent, there's like a slight delay when i stop moving the mouse, and it really throws off my aiming

[dusk ember]

Hello, I'm trying to play the game on steam. But whenever I try to open the game by clicking on play on steam the game is stuck on the loading screen and doesn't proceed further. Is there any way i can fix this?

[light maple]

what is the best swap guys ? rifle + ballista or smth else lemme know

[austere bronze]

there isn't really any best combo, but there are a few classics:
pb+ballista (good for very long range or cacos/pain elementals because of the ballista's increased damage)
pb+rocket (good for mid range)
pb+ssg (good for close range)

[light maple]

k thx

but for me, i prefer using grenade launcher on caco's

[austere bronze]

you can vastly build on this though with things such as pb+sticky, punch swaps, combining combos, and tech which is something to keep in mind

[light maple]

for me punch swap doesent work for some reason

[austere bronze]

you need to press the weapon bind after punching

[light maple]

oh

[austere bronze]

that's good for a cheap, delayed stagger

but not if you want a kill or immediate stagger

[light maple]

im using it only for when im low and need a glory kill

[visual mirage]

pb+full auto

[light maple]

tbh since i did my first campaign in ultra violence, shoul i like get a big better by finishing dlc then redoing on nightmare

i have both dlc's

and i started dlc nb 1 a bit ago ima continue that

[visual mirage]

ssg+rocket

Classic controller combo

[light maple]

kk thx

[visual mirage]

Dont forget the most important one

ssg+ballista

[austere bronze]

stop lying😭

[austere bronze]

yes!

[urban plinth]

Wtf is pb

[austere bronze]

precision bolt

[urban plinth]

Ohh

I feel like it doesnt do that much damage

[visual mirage]

It doesnt

Thats why ssg+ballista is better

[austere bronze]

but it's very fast swapping, and can apply something called FSE (fast swap effect) to the rocket launcher and combat shotgun (preferably sticky bombs) which makes them swap equally fast

[urban plinth]

So it doesnt do damage

But its okay cuz you can swap fasy

I mean it does little damage

[austere bronze]

it does almost half the damage of ballista

but is muuch faster with swaps

so pb+ssg is higher dps than pb+ballista, even if pb doesn't apply fse to rhe ssg

[urban plinth]

Oh ok

[light maple]

can someone PLEASE help me, i am currently doing the first dlc and i am at the 2 marauder fight

i just cant do it, someone can help me, like give me a tactic to get them easely

ill retry until replu, im using pb + ssg

[austere bronze]

my biggest tip would be to not get caught up in damage dealing

[light maple]

kk

[austere bronze]

move around a lot so one runs ar you and flashes his eyes, then shoot that guy until the other marauder shows up

[light maple]

kk

[austere bronze]

then repeat

[light maple]

yeah, dlc is crual for that

cruel*

GOT EM

NICE

[austere bronze]

nice!

ggs

[dusk gust]

Hallo!

[austere bronze]

hallå!

[visual mirage]

hi

[high granite]

hello

[boreal shard]

Big

Fucking

Gun

9000

bfg-9000

[visual mirage]

Bio Force Gun 9000

[harsh bough]

Finally, I beat the dark lord, so what happened to doom guy in the end?

[twin gale]

he got put back in the coffin and they're gonna take him back out when they need him again

if youre talking about why he fell down a shard of davoth's essence was used to power up the slayer when he went in the divinity machine so now that davoth is dead so is his essence and so is doom guys god power

[visual mirage]

he ded

No more doom games

🥳

[hard bluff]

does anyone have any tips to get that one toy in taras nabad?

really struggling to get it

[visual mirage]

Use chrono strike

[hard bluff]

what is that?

[visual mirage]

A rune that slows down time when you press the weapon mod button

[scenic axle]

wut da heck

[twin gale]

well im sure the lore department is gonna somehow make up that there's someone more powerful and was there before davoth that also has a divinity machine that was kept secret from every being in existence except some random mf that happens to tell doomguy about it so he takes that machine and uses his power to erase the hell dimension from existence once and for all

wish i knew man

[graceful current]

yea lol

and then the next doom game will reveal a Hell 2 that existed the entire time

and also reveal that John Kane from Doom 3 was actually Ultra-God's Ultra-Right-Hand-Man the entire time and never actually a human and was an angel in disguise

[twin gale]

hell 2💀

[scarlet pier]

So does anyone who wishes for a Doom 3 marine skin just use the red classic that you get from the game?

[wet mist]

guys i just installed doom eternal, and once i started campaign, my fps feel 60 even though my fps counter says 240. can someone help me?

gameplay is locked at 60fps while my fps are not

[urban plinth]

@austere bronze Just shredded a maurader using ballista plus ssg fast swap

Apparently it does work lol

[austere bronze]

it certainly does work, but isn't as good as other combos

there's no reason to use it over pb+ssg for example, because pb+ssg is both higher dps and an easier marauder 2 cycle

[urban plinth]

But pb is harder to aim

[austere bronze]

they both have pretty small hitboxes, the pb's is just even smaller

also they're both close range combos, so aim isn't very important

[deft yarrow]

Anyone wanna grind achievements ? Idk where to ask for that

[ebon elbow]

pb + ballista makes for a very consistent 2 cycle

and naturally allows you to keep your distance at the end of the first cycle

imo, one of the safest option for ultra nightmare runs

[visual mirage]

Everybody knows that arbalest+two grenades+full auto is the best combo for marauders

[austere bronze]

unironically a good one cycle lmao

[austere bronze]

true

[dim solar]

stop bullying Marauder-kun

gotta fight him fair and square

[austere bronze]

you mean actually using his green eye flashes?

absolutely!
https://youtu.be/KbX6oCSduas?si=lvemqtt3wnXdsHpI

[rough tide]

guys, just got eternal, never played doom before, what difficulty should i start at? like whats not too hard but not sad?

will be rlly sad if im playing on the lowest difficulty

[austere bronze]

nothing's sad
but if you aren't too experienced with similar games, hurt me plenty may be good? and if it's too hard, i'm too young to die

[rough tide]

fairs, ty

and nah i aint rlly played similar games, i play overwatch and thats it lol, nothing else

more sad than playing on the lowest difficulty tbh, playing overwatch

[jolly kernel]

is the milestone for killing only a single zombie with the BFG STILL bugged?

[high granite]

whats up

[compact gazelle]

jus did the master level by beth for nekravol 2 on ultra-nightmare, imma upload it

[cursive helm]

Hello guys

[compact gazelle]

Yo yo how are you

[cursive helm]

im good how are you?

[compact gazelle]

chillin uploading my video. New to community. looking for challenges and ways to contribute too

[cursive helm]

yeah im also new

whats your youtube name?

[compact gazelle]

want to be slayer friends and https://www.youtube.com/@fdoomguy

[cursive helm]

oh nice

lemme check it out

wow

[compact gazelle]

got beths ultra nightmare nekravol 2 uploading as we speak

[cursive helm]

looks cool

oh nice

[compact gazelle]

did it in under 15 minutes its the old master level

[cursive helm]

i subbed to you

[compact gazelle]

did the level tonight after i found about the new secret in dark ages, did em both today. first time doing beths level in a while, and sweeeeeet that is truly appreciated

[cursive helm]

yea lets be slayer friends

[compact gazelle]

sent a friend request

[cursive helm]

bet

im kinda new to doom eternal may i please have a guide?

oh nevermind

[compact gazelle]

strategy guide or meta? some guides and charts go deep. ive seek enemy damage by the weapon mod for this game.

like this weapon damage chart may make ones head spin. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yFRKpC6xABx1HTOd9zDG6a2DGQzpPjS9tVjRvcLCbc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[austere bronze]

there aren't really any good comprehensive guides for eternal yet

but i'd be happy to give tips or pointers if you wanna c:

[visual mirage]

Excuse me???
https://youtu.be/TYuzCoF3Emo?si=E1-pDdQIl5niGKOR

[ebon elbow]

start with ultra nightmare like a true chad

[ebon elbow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-BZ7v6UCXg
for quick swapping basics

[rough tide]

i get that was a joke, but honestly this game is easy so far u can just glory kill whenever ur low

just to be clear, so far

it probs gets harder im assuming

[ebon elbow]

what difficulty you on right now? try ultra violence or nightmare, especially if you found cultist base easy

[rough tide]

i forgot the name

the one above im too young to die

in difficulty

i did whatever the first thing was

[visual mirage]

Aspiring slayer

[rough tide]

im up to where u throw some guys head at 2 ppl

[ebon elbow]

the game kinda changes the deeper in the campaign you get. early game you're squishier, have fewer tools and it's in general a bit more aim-heavy. late game it's more about managing larger scale battles with all the tools you have

[rough tide]

oh ok

[ebon elbow]

I'd definitely try at least hurt me plenty

[rough tide]

im confused tho why do i need ammo for chainsaw

i need ammo to get more ammo

[ebon elbow]

im too young to die is for people who are dean takahashi-level
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsNzr3PYlYI

[ebon elbow]

one fuel pip always recharges over time

so you can eventually chainsaw a fodder

[visual mirage]

Nudoom fans still obsessed with Dean even after he gave a positive review to the game

[astral hamlet]

Imagine letting someone live rent free in your head for being bad at a video game

[visual mirage]

I disagree

[austere bronze]

whatever would we do if we couldn't make fun of people for not being good and spending hundreds of hours in our favorite game thoughhh

[fringe torrent]

DOOM Eternal community is bizarre

[visual mirage]

NuDOOM community is bizarre

[compact gazelle]

all gaming communities are bizarre really. Bizarre : very strange or unusual, especially so as to cause interest or amusement. | Most of these communities are purely digital, and yet the ties are so strong at times, and frantic at others, and that only being determined by arbitrary actions and communal placements makes the overall situation only more bizarre, yet it amuses one to keep at it. 🤘

[compact gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/type-typing-working-office-monkey-gif-13259034

ive seen monkeys get closer to randomly typing Shakespeare on a typewriter than this guy was to closing that gap

[hollow peak]

Spanish anyone?

[austere bronze]

glass house or something...

[visual mirage]

DOOM Eternal will always be on my top 10 DOOM games of all time

[compact gazelle]

Well I guess everyone starts somewhere, the Video was funny, but Ive done worse for sure in the past, and still do when experimenting. Was this a meme or a mans serious attempt? It seemed to be serious to a certain degree...

[ebon elbow]

dean has become infamous for not understanding the fundamentals of video games despite being a games journalist for multiple decades

[hollow peak]

Spanish anyone?

[ebon elbow]

it wouldn't be meme-worthy if it was just some rando but I have no problem taking the piss on someone like that

[hollow peak]

Hello? Spanish anyone?

[compact gazelle]

I dont speak Spanish

[hollow peak]

okey

[ebon elbow]

just use AI to translate back and forth

[hollow peak]

how funny

[compact gazelle]

Elmo is awesome, I use scooby doo as my werewolf logo in another game.

[hollow peak]

...

[ebon elbow]

now that brings back memories

[compact gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/neil-patrick-harris-unicorn-rainbow-harold-and-kumar-gif-4024844

disney and cartoons used to teach us things, well sometimes, but this does look interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGsBdprqOus

[austere bronze]

shitting on people's gameplay for fun just seems so odd, no matter who it is

just seems like a way to feel better about yourself or something

[real holly]

elitism?

[plain dune]

Lmao good stuff

[real holly]

or superiority complex

[austere bronze]

holy guac it's him

[real holly]

its like that one reddit post crapping on low diffuclty players on reddit and calling them ''low level gamers''

[austere bronze]

something along those lines

[compact gazelle]

For me personally, I wanted to know his thought process. I did not know of Dean.

[real holly]

some people like playing certain ways, in a game as Eternal that offers so much variety its bound to happen

recently ive stopped using chaingun shield and lock on burts bc well its too easy, i find it more fun to have higher risk and kill enemies in other ways

[compact gazelle]

I wasnt sure what he was attempting to do, so I was more curious than anything else.

[real holly]

but notice how im not crapping on people for DARING to use something I consider easy, its just its more entertaing to me to challenge myself

[compact gazelle]

I like challenges, Ive seen the no rocket, no SS, and no chain gun one, there was a mod for it. was pretty fun.

[austere bronze]

brawler mode😭 ew

[ebon elbow]

if you're just some rando, sure, but if you're in a position of power where your word/review has influence on the commercial success of a game, you should have a baseline level of competence, otherwise it's like reviewing a car without having a license. nobody's expecting flawless un runs but you should understand basline mechanics as a games reviewer/journalist

[real holly]

all ill say is Eternal has a learning curve problem

but at one point yeah some basics for some reason evade new players

the armor recovery stuff for some reason nobody understands even though its super clear

[austere bronze]

restacking is something ~95% of players can vastly improve, and 98% can definitely improve

[real holly]

exactly

like fuck me im at 30 health and in less than a second im back to nearly full

and its not even that complex

[austere bronze]

it's an incredibly vital and busted mechanic which doesn't have nearly the same skill roof as other things in the game, good to get good with it early

[ebon elbow]

this part I can agree with, it's def a learning curve if you haven't played quake-inspired games, my broader point is more on like... game reviewers should know how to double jump or move a cursor over an enemy... even if slowly

[real holly]

https://tenor.com/view/fairysoobs-angry-mad-hitting-desk-reaction-gif-25675865

the Marauder seething seeing me use the arena zombies to regain nearly half of my health and armor in one go:

[real holly]

yeah its confusing why the norm is to ignore the basics for some reason

[ebon elbow]

like the first time playing eternal I died probably dozens of times in the first couple slayer gates to the point where I had bloodshot eyes at 2am...

[compact gazelle]

speaking of, the sentinel axe mod for the hammer is pretty cool. refills on head shots and weak points only i believe. only a falter not a stun, and pretty chill splash damage

[ebon elbow]

I gotta get into mods

try out the randomizers

[real holly]

I tried randomizer after some time, was fun ig, tried the unbalanced version and had to face off against so many marauders in hell on earth, that was funny but not fun

after beating UN I kind of took a break

[compact gazelle]

omg the un balanced one is ridiculous haha

[ebon elbow]

I'm doing my "quad cannon go brr" run right now lol it's a nice change of pace from mapping level strategies for un

[real holly]

i came back for Dark Ages tech support basically

[austere bronze]

wayy better than the hammer lmao

[real holly]

Hammer more like free resources button

like we didnt have some already

oh well the magic of Hammer is getting better at the game, starting to not like it and try tag 2 without it

and thats actually fun

especially reclaimed earth, Immora kinda too

World Spear is just fucked by default no matter how you play it

shame bc i love the music and feel of the level

[ebon elbow]

cultist base is perfect workout music

[austere bronze]

you should try the unbalanced rando i'm using :3

[real holly]

does it have Marauder spam

[austere bronze]

it's basically just a harder version of proteh's unbalanced rando

[real holly]

BRUH

[austere bronze]

bonus points to it cuz it insta-break armored barons' armor

[compact gazelle]

i had no idea keanue reeeves was doing cinderalla

[austere bronze]

it does the same with doom hunters, but i'm neutral to that

[ebon elbow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGTKlX3MMCk
all we need are mario-themed reskins for the enemies

[austere bronze]

it also activates FSE just like the hammer, which is nice because it becomes very integratable into combos

[real holly]

Cacodemon should be Chain Chomp with wings no questions asked

[compact gazelle]

I want a keanu reeves slayer skin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoygGCZcemQ

[ebon elbow]

love it lol

I want a pet caco

[compact gazelle]

your gonnna have to breed it a couple generations too big, they crap every where, you know about there butts, those things crap like whales, and it will eat you when you sleep

https://tenor.com/view/doom-cacodemon-pet-gif-11066561543147440045

[austere bronze]

dam didn't know he usef super weapond

the bob-omb map is so dumb lmao

[ebon elbow]

that's why I love it

[austere bronze]

i mean with the enemies and arena layout

so very fun...

[compact gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/itll-be-fun-stan-marsh-kyle-broflovski-eric-cartman-kenny-mccormick-gif-23121337

[austere bronze]

also just weirdly hard imo

[compact gazelle]

the map is litterally bomb bomb battle field lol minus a 10% scale difference maybe, but the reskining would be awesome! its very open so you can do what you want really, but its like being born a gen z gamer and watching us millennials reminisce about how good N64 mario really was. i still love mario haha christmas time you know what we playing lol

i remember how exhilarating super mario world was when it came out, im like, you can ride yoshi, fly better, and spin jump!!!!!!!!

[ebon elbow]

that was my first game as a child... SNES... good times

when mario 64 came out my mind exploded

[compact gazelle]

everytime i found something new im like wow! riding the turtle shell, the switches for secret stars, the pyramid, ghost house, fire bully, tic toc clock, and bowser seemed so hard back then lol rainbow road, or any 100 star red coin was so hard

[gleaming rampart]

I lost my ultra nightmare save due to not understanding what the game meant by “complete the mission” 😔

[compact gazelle]

ouch, you made it off the titanic but didnt have a life raft

[austere bronze]

it gives you a warning if you try to exit when you "can't" though

[gleaming rampart]

Well mainly I got confused because I completed exultia and was on the fortress of doom. Thought that counted as mission complete and was heavily confused by all the warnings. I found out only later that it literally had to be at the completed mission screen

[compact gazelle]

yea the wording is like the instructions manual for an ikea chair or desk

[ebon elbow]

after finishing un, I went back to the fortress of doom and panicked a bit when I couldn't figure out a way to exit without getting that warning. ended up just doing arc complex master level on a super easy difficulty and that somehow worked lol

[austere bronze]

if you exit the un-save slot without being in the mission enf screen, it gets deleted

going in to the arc ml doesn't fix it, as you can't unless you exit the level

[compact gazelle]

turn knob right, while spinning counter clock wise, as shown under in the above photo

duhh 😄

[ebon elbow]

so I went to the master level terminal, finished arc ml, and exited at the end screen after beating it

and my un save file wasn't deleted

[austere bronze]

why wouldn't you just do another level then? but fair nuff i suppose

didn't think of the ml terminal

[ebon elbow]

the standard terminal is disabled and this was after finishing final sin

that missing ammo bug really does suck tho

it threw me off for nekrovol part 2. I saved the ammo crystal of nekrovol pt 1 for after beating the level to get full bfg ammo, and it completely sapped it when I spun up pt 2 the following day

[astral hamlet]

Real
Artificially limiting your arsenal and calling it fun

The brawler mode for TDA is even more of a joke

[austere bronze]

somehow

[compact gazelle]

I'm a big fan of using all my tools, but at times people apparently really like it, and I must admit, the times i did do it, I was out matched maybe, but the challenge will let you work on the mechanics your weak on, like working the triceps cus you did one too many curls. Hard to make videos when one is dying during those attempts so I avoid making those videos.

[ebon elbow]

I sometimes try mixing it up by occasionally forcing myself to only use mods I usually never touch (no pb, etc...). gives you a new perspective on the game

[compact gazelle]

a man who can walk on his hands, i like it

[austere bronze]

i don't really see the point in going out of your way to restrict yourself, and if you gotta work on a specific aspect, focus on that, but do it in a normal setting

[austere bronze]

no pb just becomes tech spam for me lol

[compact gazelle]

i like going all out with everything too im learning all the ins and outs of certain challenges, im brainstorming ideas for my videos

[ebon elbow]

I ended up punch cancelling ballista a lot

[compact gazelle]

and yet some how i have over 1000 hours in doom eternal

[ebon elbow]

i'm still a doom eternal newbie by that standard lol, 250ish hours here. though I did play a lot of tf2 back in the day

[austere bronze]

fair enough

ballista punch cancels gotta be my least fave punch cancels though lol

cause muh ballista ammooo

[compact gazelle]

every person has different paces, so like 1 hour for Murican Eagle may equate to at least 1800 Dean hours, but Im not being fair, that calculation may be flawed and biased against Dean

[ebon elbow]

yeah the ammo consumption sucks lol, especially considering I love tracking weapons like plasma rifle. makes my monkey brain produce dopamine

[ebon elbow]

true, conscious practice > mindless play if your goal is to improve. I try to balance both myself

otherwise it starts feeling like work

[austere bronze]

i gotta get back into the groove of "practicing" eternal

[astral hamlet]

Hurts my soul
Feel like they realized how busted the gauss cannon was and then neutered it by giving it no ammo whatsoever

[austere bronze]

wanna git gud

[austere bronze]

i mostly want plasma ammo for ballista boosting and dblades

but heat blast is very nice

annoying to charge up mid battle tho

[ebon elbow]

ballista boosting reminds me of rocket jumping in quake/tf2. maybe we'll see more custom mods centered around pure movement

[astral hamlet]

Too bad the plasma rifle primary fire is doo doo

[ebon elbow]

like jump maps in those games

[ebon elbow]

boosted plasma helps some

[austere bronze]

already feel like the movement is pretty peak in eternal

more movement options would be too much imo

don't like the mod for meathoking rockets for example

[ebon elbow]

I more mean maps focused on testing your movement skills

[austere bronze]

ahh, i c!

[ebon elbow]

endless potential there

[austere bronze]

i feel like most maps challenge your movement, but it's mainly a matter of what it focuses on and what's available to the player

but obviously if an arena is very small there won't be much interesting movement lol

same for if it's too big though, like bob-omb battlefield

you can move a lot, but it's not particularly interesting

[astral hamlet]

Adding 20% to a small number doesn’t make it a big number

[compact gazelle]

but adding 20% to a small number with a variable exponent does 😄

positive interger

[ebon elbow]

I was envisoning something like this, but obviously meathook/ballista centric instead of rocket centric
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkJHUg8Glnw

obstacle courses you can speedrun

[austere bronze]

platforming...

fair enough i suppose

[compact gazelle]

nah platforming? you mean this 😄 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7MHoLkRuZA

[ebon elbow]

kaizo eternal lol

instead of 3 zombies you start with 3 tyrants

[compact gazelle]

buffed by an unapproachable totem, that only clears after the wave, not to mention add 2 berserker hell knights, a armored revenant squad, and 1 Makyr Baron, and 1 Behemoth for BFG ammo drops

then you get chain chainsaw.

begining of game

and speaking of Kaizo, I still cant shell jump!

[ebon elbow]

lol reminds me of that coin room in taras nabad master level

first time those buffed cybermanc spawned I died within like half a second

that and the dual archville rooms felt more like something you'd see in a rom hack than something in an official map release

[compact gazelle]

CBT atlantica facility, fought 4 or 5 arcvhilles at the end. and yes i thought cbt was cognitive behavioral therapy, computer beta test or something, but then i realized it is just c* and ball torture. CBT

[kind basin]

M1 told me to get on cbt

That's kinda freaky m1

[compact gazelle]

hahahahaha

[kind basin]

The freak1

[austere bronze]

not 4 or 5, but it's evil since you got respawning screechers, heavies, and super heavies with 2 samur maykrs lol

[compact gazelle]

I just remeber my urethea burned for weeks after i cleared it

[kind basin]

I bet it's not as hard as max sliders on dark ages

Yes I know it's random

[austere bronze]

definitely takes more hours in eternal to be able to comfortably clear the final room of cbt atlantica than it does to play tda on max sliders

but more can do the former, since the game has been out for 5 years

[kind basin]

Oof so it takes 50 hrs?

Damn

[austere bronze]

although, the amount who can comfortably clear the final arena of the unbalanced version is like, less than 15 or something

[kind basin]

That's a beefy level

If the final fight is that long

[austere bronze]

it isn't super long

[kind basin]

Ok M1 since you've done cbt atlantica you should do a max slider run no extra lives and no slo mo

[austere bronze]

did you

[kind basin]

You did

[austere bronze]

i'd do it, but i don't wanna humble the tda gang too much🥱

[kind basin]

In general chat

[kind basin]

The tda gang prob better than you

Hur hur hur

[ebon elbow]

never played tda, how is it compared to eternal, challenge-wise

[kind basin]

Um well I guess it's a bit easier

[austere bronze]

completely dependant on yo sliders

[kind basin]

Less inputs to worry abt

And it generally follows the same enemy amounts as eternal despite doubling the amt capacity

You'll still fight like 3 mancubi when you can handle 6

[compact gazelle]

sliders determine your experience, and then from there, yeah way less inputs. but messing up can be more punishing, but depends on sliders

[candid dawn]

The increased enemy count is really just fodder

[kind basin]

Ye they don't make excellent use of the enemy count

So generally it's easier

But also very customizable

And still engaging

[ebon elbow]

neat, ty. maybe I'll check it out

prob start with whatever sliders default to on nightmare

[kind basin]

My fav set up is no slo mo, 120% speed

[compact gazelle]

reminded me of hexen originally, shield and mele and all, never played hexen much tho

[kind basin]

If you want to torture yourself just do the max slider run

[candid dawn]

I tried max sliders the other day and it was genuinely unfun

[kind basin]

What level

[candid dawn]

The very first

[compact gazelle]

no if you want to torture yourself do max sliders with no power weapons. such as my well advocated for artform of BFC'ing

[kind basin]

Nah you goootta keep going

[austere bronze]

took my game 4 tries to not crash trying to load cbt atlantica😭

[kind basin]

I'm on aratum now

[azure oriole]

OK so I'm om urdak just to jump from floating and I have this thing above me. I'm playing on "too young to die" so I'm definitely not good enough to be sniping it mid air. Anyone know what I'm supposed to do?

[candid dawn]

I couldn't even get past the first arena after getting the gauntlets

[ebon elbow]

you talking about the rings?

[azure oriole]

I was gonna put a pic with it but I guess I can't, so sorry for the shit explanation

[azure oriole]

Yeahhhhhh

[kind basin]

Bruh I walked so you can run

Start running

[ebon elbow]

you jump through the rings, like you're playing superman 64. no need to shoot them

[kind basin]

I berieve in the Bahookie

Herro

He gone

[compact gazelle]

i wanna play atlantica again now lol

there was another one i really liked h.o

[candid dawn]

I'm trying brawler jolt instead

[kind basin]

Is that the mayo thing

He made a brawler mode

[compact gazelle]

https://mods.bethesda.net/en/doometernal/details/260622

tormented earth was really hard and took me a while to finish.

[candid dawn]

Yeah

[austere bronze]

hardest modded level lol

which version did you do?

[compact gazelle]

balanced, i had the hammer

[austere bronze]

you get the hammer the unbalanced too

[compact gazelle]

ohhh hmm prob balanced, but I ll def do the unbalanced now for more pain.

[azure oriole]

Can I send you a pic of what I'm stuck at? I jumped thru the rings and but the end of it is blocked by a laser grid. It has the green dot to shoot and presumably open it, but if I shoot it before jumping through it doesn't seem like enough time. Maybe I just need to be better and go thru it faster? But seems too long for me but idk it's my first time and this games hard lol

[compact gazelle]

this ? https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/1n2cbdu/brawler_mode_the_dark_ages_custom_ruleset/

[ebon elbow]

you gotta shoot it while you're airborn. if you're having trouble aiming try shooting it with the ssg since that has wider spread

[compact gazelle]

try ballista, and micro missiles, whatever you are comfortable with till you get it

[austere bronze]

longer than i remember though

took me 7 min to complete the final arena

i definitely recommend cbt atlantica to anyone who wants a challenge

[compact gazelle]

just downloaded the unbalanced tormented earth, i see it now. gonnna give it a swing on nightmare soon

[austere bronze]

when you get to the first real arena with the continuously spawning spirits... good luck!

[compact gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-goody-scar-the-lion-king-disney-sarcastic-gif-14590919

[visual mirage]

I disagree

[azure oriole]

Dude thanks I got it. I was thinking of it all wrong and was trying to shoot it before I started jumping. Thanks

[astral hamlet]

More like CTE Atlantica

[compact gazelle]

i just got to the arena, feeling like a thunder chad so far but im waiting for the boiling iron @austere bronze

really like it, still working on that wave, the key to these tight areas is a well timed destroyer blade. conserves the most ammo for the most dps when landed

[visual mirage]

new ruleset

Everything is banned except micro misiles

[ebon elbow]

awesome man! gluck. urdak is a fun level

[ebon elbow]

gotta post a video!

[azure oriole]

Anyone got any advice for the khan makyr boss fight? I got to the boss fight but had to shut it off. Tried to play on my lunch break a bit lol

[ebon elbow]

lockon rockets melt through her

also the boost pad in the back near the fuel can is a relatively safe place to stick around. keep bouncing on it and you'll avoid most of her attacks and the floor hazards

[azure oriole]

Awesome, thanks!

[ebon elbow]

personally I quick swap precision bolt and ballista since that's reliable at any distance but that's a tad more aim heavy. the sun beam is very damaging, prioritize avoiding it

[gleaming rampart]

Died to a fucking gargoyle

[ebon elbow]

ultranightmare? what level?

[gleaming rampart]

Ultra nightmare and on exultia. My big mistake was getting way too close to a hellknight, losing a lot of health, then getting hit once by a gargoyle while trying to chainsaw it

[ebon elbow]

oof, yeah gargoyles are nasty threats in the early game

[gleaming rampart]

Sucks too because I probably could’ve lived if I had just waited a second longer 😔

[ebon elbow]

what really improved my survivability was learning to deal heavy dps at middle to long range. sticky headshots mow hellknights down fast

and once you get rocket launcher and quick swap, pb + rocket gets you through second half of cultist base and doom hunter base

[mossy cliff]

I finally bought eternal

[twin gale]

W

hop into ultra nightmare immediatly its very easy

[analog lily]

should I use my 2 batteries to get a sentinel crystal or a ballista mod?

crystal finishes "belch armor boost", for context

[dim solar]

for UN in eternal you kinda have to play it very safe until you get past Doom Hunter base

use your precision bolt and sticky bombs to deal with the heavies from afar

only go for a blood punch if you're sure you're not gonna bump into a gargoyle on your way in

[twin gale]

sentinel crystals are always better than mods

at least i think so

the only mod that might be better is lob but why would you not get that at the first modbot in cultist base

[candid dawn]

I always make sure I can get both crystals before I go into super gore nest

[analog lily]

I went with crystals after all. I'm just annoyed now because I can't figure out the doom hunter base, I'm still missing 2 of the armor tokens, the cheat code, and the music disk, which I need for the level challenges to get another battery

[ripe sierra]

guys can i download doom eternal from steam in increments, cuz my wifi is terrible and it will take 6 hours to download the game and i cant let my pc run for that long

can i pause it, let it sleep and continue tmr or something

[real cargo]

i think steam allows you to do that for all games

[compact gazelle]

my fps hand eye coordination training and relaxing escape (chicken invaders univserse loooool)

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-invaders-skill-issue-gif-15356805608064651919

[visual mirage]

Why would you want to play eternal with a controller?

[real cargo]

me when people have personal preferences:

plus theres handhelds like the steam deck, rog ally, etc
so people should be able to navigate with the launcher for mods

[visual mirage]

I disagree

[real cargo]

xplain den

[ancient locust]

hello

can someone help me with my game, it isnt launching i tried everything, when i try to launch the game, i get to the launcher and try to launch the game it doesn't even open and straight up closes end the task itself, i tried updating my drivers, giving admin privileges, i tried custom launch options, even reinstalled steam and the game, checked the file integrity nothing is working. have tried downloading the vulcan runtime api thing separately as well that hasn't worked either. if someone could tell me a fix that would be greatly appreciated. PLEASE HELP

[real cargo]

#community-support

[ancient locust]

sorry

[quasi glen]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-2-episode-two-g-man-alyx-vance-valve-gif-113302586796986463

[visual mirage]

Eternal if it had a good plot

[vocal summit]

Can someone help me with battlemode trophies

Literally can’t get into a match :(

[halcyon ravine]

guys

what if we added the doom the dark ages doomslayer skin for doom eternal

And you can get it in sentinel prime on your way to the gladiator like if you’e lucky enough you find the doom the dark ages armor

[visual mirage]

There's already mod that does that

[halcyon ravine]

oh

the cape kinda poo

like it doesnt really wave with the wind?

other than that the mod’s cool

[real cargo]

also its not impossible nor even too painful to play nightmare and use quick swapping on a controller, my control settings def tweaked with steam but still https://youtu.be/Rbnbc4bovTs

(there is a bunch of stutters, i think my hdd is dying oops)

[visual mirage]

My favorite combo is pb+full auto

[austere bronze]

pb+sticky into full auto is better

[muted wind]

anyone here why does bethesd.net cant accept ANY username i put 8 numbers behind it 50 other combinations dont work

[ebon elbow]

I need to learn more pb+sticky combos. I don't use them much

[austere bronze]

one nice thing you can do is go pb->sticky->rocket

because sticky bombs can transfer FSE to the rocket launcher

[ebon elbow]

oh yeah I've seen that in tech showcase videos. looks really cool

like fast state rocket punch cancelling

[austere bronze]

oh yeah

you can also do sticky punches into rocket punches, if you wanna advance the sticky->rocket thing further

[random heath]

guys
i missed a sentinel crystal in ultra nightmare in doom hunter base

is there a way to get it or am i screwed?

[fringe torrent]

Screwed

[random heath]

damn

thanks for the reply

[urban plinth]

Wish me luck yall

Im playing ancient god part 1 on nightmare

Ive mostly played too young to die

[gleaming rampart]

This Taras nabad marauder is kicking my ass in the secret encounter. Might just come back to it at the end of the level

[ebon elbow]

from itytd straight to nm. I like your style

[urban plinth]

Okay

Died 3 times at the turret tower eyeball thing

I died again to the part after that

Died again

[ebon elbow]

always get into the habit of fast travelling to collect stuff you missed in ultra nightmare. you'll be surprised by the stuff you missed

[random heath]

yeah
i did a quick check of the map

but i gues it was not enough

[ebon elbow]

I've caught myself missing praetor suit tokens multiple times

[random heath]

i hope its not that big deal

[ebon elbow]

it's not ideal but it won't kill your run. you can def still make it

out of all the items you can collect sentinel crystals are the most important though. you should eventually memorize all their locations and build strats around crystal ammo refills

[urban plinth]

Praetor suit perks

If u get all of the tokens u get 8 leftover

Dude this is kicking my asd

Yea im done

[austere bronze]

i'd recommend learning feet ballista

anytime you've dealt a small amount of damage (200) there's a window where the ballista's splash damage will trigger a damage falter in the marauder

so just shoot a ballista near the marauder's feet adter a combo

[ebon elbow]

also that secret encounter starts in a cramped space. take the liberty to reposition to a longer hall

[violet bison]

are the ancient gods pt 1 and 2 worth it? i may pick it up today

[tender otter]

Yes, also is someone up to do the battlemod trophies on ps5 ?

I ca t find people and playing this mods give me bad deseases

[candid dawn]

I'd say so, just make sure you buy the year one pass so you can get a slight discount instead of purchasing them individually

[violet bison]

alright, thanks for the advice

[twin gale]

or you can wait until christmas like i did and get the deluxe edition for $20 lol

[violet bison]

I already have eternal from the summer sale so Shrug

[azure oriole]

Is the steam version of doom eternal functional, I remember hearing problems with it

[ebon elbow]

works great for me

[azure oriole]

Nice

Real good sale right now so thinking about getting it again

[south spire]

What do you mean sir

[azure oriole]

A lot of pc ports are super buggy, just wondering if this was a good one

[south spire]

It's absolutely mint

[azure oriole]

Nice! Good to know

[south spire]

Yeah you're welcome good sir

[ebon elbow]

to be clear there are bugs in the core game but I don't think that's specific to the steam version and they're pretty uncommon in practice, especially if you're playing casually

[south spire]

Exactly bro

you get it

[visual mirage]

Bug Eternal

[gleaming rampart]

Any advice for setting up my keybinds for faster weapon switching? I feel like I’m relatively decent at doing weapon swaps but I think just using the standard number keys for my weapons, with the exception of the BFG/Unmaykr, is holding me back a little.

[austere bronze]

for sure, the base weapon binds kinda suck lol
as you might've presumed, there are no best binds, but there are a few general guidelines

you want all your binds close to yout movement keys, and probably something on your mouse side buttons, on scroll down and/or up you'll want jump (and on space bar, probably), if you got scroll up/down free, you can bind an action there but i wouldn't recommend a weapon

the numbers right above your movement keys you'll want to entirely avoid (or at least bind something unimportant there)

[austere bronze]

to bind jump to scroll, you'll need to unlock the console via running the mod injector (no need to inject any mods), and then typing bind mwheel_down jump (or mwheel_up)

[visual mirage]

Mouse 2 to jump

[oak storm]

i already have done this pass only thing left is get the rest of the DOOM 64 Set and try beat Horde Mode on UV with 20 lives left

[gleaming rampart]

Ah, Ty for the tips

[hard bluff]

yo me and someone else needs a third for battle mode tomorrow

[ebon elbow]

yea, try not to use the number keys. most of my weapon binds are adjacent to my right strafe key, which allows my pointer finger to easily access said buttons. I personally don't have any weapon binds on my side mouse buttons as it subtly disrupts my aim when switching.

[hard bluff]

could anyone hop on? tmmr

[livid monolith]

TETO

[violet bison]

Hi

[nova cairn]

they are worth it but just remember to train your skills for 1

[livid monolith]

HI

[nova cairn]

i consider tag1 the Definitive doom eternal experience

[twin gale]

if you do get it dont forget to reset up your runes and mods because they dont save

[nova cairn]

tag2 isnt as bad as some people describe it to be, its fine but the encounters felt a little bit empty and the hammer is wayy too op

[twin gale]

you also have to do it at the start of tag2

[livid monolith]

Love your profil

[violet bison]

Thanks lol

It’s peak

[livid monolith]

it is

[orchid igloo]

hey, can anyone here help me? i been playing eternal like 2h ago, turned off the game, came back and now its crashing when i launch it right in the middle of the intro video, already tried skipping it with steam properties, but i just get a black screen and then crash

[thorny geode]

is it a hardware issue?

maybe something to do with VRAM or drivers

[orchid igloo]

it was literally working 2h ago, havent even rebooted pc

no driver updates, no game updates, no windows updates

[thorny geode]

hmm

i am deadass not software savvy enough to help, sorry miks

[orchid igloo]

already tried clearing config files, save files, what is wierd to me, from the launcher, if i pick modded it launches fine

[dusk galleon]

I'm not much of a tech guy either but I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here,
Have you disabled the steam overlay?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920390932384337920/1424157681152692264/image.png?ex=68e2edb2&is=68e19c32&hm=34062f24b513d743c5caa5a43cc3dbdb1f58a318d2118b15df39a3bbae51e611&

[orchid igloo]

already tried thoes

[dusk galleon]

Hmm
I assume you've tried Steam's verify game files too then?

[orchid igloo]

yeah

doing it a 2nd time now

[dusk galleon]

I guess worst scenario, grab your save file and try a complete fresh uninstall + reinstall
It's weird that it works if you open it up modded, though

[orchid igloo]

i mean i can just continue playing on moded but without achivements

[dusk galleon]

True

[lean egret]

Alguien habla español

[warm acorn]

i finally got eternal

i got promoted

[astral hamlet]

Nah it’s pretty bad
Hammer is mega busted, waves upon waves of pure fodder, new enemies whose only purpose is to annoy you, and one of the worst final bosses in FPS history

[nova cairn]

i thought the dark lord fight was fine

[astral hamlet]

[visual mirage]

Marauder but red

[astral hamlet]

No, an ultra tanky marauder who has a million attacks, only one of which lets you damage him

[nova cairn]

it is definetly the worst fight in the game but i dont think its nessescarily bad

[astral hamlet]

Dawg you got some incredibly low standards

[candid dawn]

I kinda wish they nerfed the hammer overall instead of balancing the world spear ML around it. I think tag 2 suffers from it being so OP

[nova cairn]

(idk i just like fighting marauders)

[astral hamlet]

I don’t mind marauders
The dark lord is just shit

[visual mirage]

Thats kinda wild ngl

[nova cairn]

its above the arc complex marauder(if you can even consider that a boss fight)

[candid dawn]

And having everyone affected by it get stunned for several seconds is also wack, should've just been a big falter if you ask me

[astral hamlet]

You can do fun stuff with marauders
The dark lord just makes you wait for 8 million years between green eye flashes

[nova cairn]

you can just mess around with repositioning to get the attacks early

i dunno how to describe it i havent fought him in an year

[astral hamlet]

I mean if the dark lord is the worst boss fight in the game, but he’s still “fine” idk what else to say

[astral hamlet]

You would think so, but his attacks are governed by rng

He’s not like a marauder who actually wants to attack you

[visual mirage]

The marauder also doesnt want to attack u

[astral hamlet]

You can get very close to him and still get nothing but non-green eye flashes if you’re unlucky

[astral hamlet]

[primal lake]

then lock-on rockets

ez

[astral hamlet]

The dark lord sees you wanting to have some fun and just says “nah, I’m gonna throw the same bomb at you 5 times in a row”

[visual mirage]

You say it like if the marauder wasnt a buggy mess

[primal lake]

it isn't now

[astral hamlet]

Sure he is
But he’s fun

[astral hamlet]

Nah he still is lmao

[visual mirage]

Spaghetti code of ai

[astral hamlet]

Doesn’t make the dark lord any less awful

[visual mirage]

Both are awful

[primal lake]

the only times he bugged out for me was when he couldn't find path to me and stood in place lol

[astral hamlet]

So we’re in agreement that the dark lord is ass
You should have just led with that lmao

[primal lake]

but it was rare

[astral hamlet]

He still acts like an asshole on inclines

[visual mirage]

Both are ass

[primal lake]

i thought it was intended lmao

[astral hamlet]

I’m not here to defend the marauder, I couldn’t care less about him

I’m just here to shit on the dark lord boss fight

[visual mirage]

K

[nova cairn]

doesnt matter, its still fun to humiliate him in front of the five zombies that are still moaning CHAINSAW ME PLEASE

[visual mirage]

Unless those five zombies are mecha zombies

[astral hamlet]

Name a more iconic duo than respawning mecha zombies and marauders

[nova cairn]

chainsaw them anyway

[primal lake]

i like fighting the marauders
ones of my fav modded levels is immora with 3 marauders fight and another immora with 2 posessed marauders fight lol
at one side, it's hard and cbt af, but on the other side their glory kills are fascinating

[visual mirage]

chainsaw them individually?

[astral hamlet]

Literally the only time in the game where I feel like the devs are deliberately fucking with us
Outside of the old holt slayer gate with the respawning carcasses with the possessed marauder

[nova cairn]

tyrant and archvile

[astral hamlet]

One sticky crit takes out a whole swarm of mecha zombies

[visual mirage]

Carcass no longer respawn on current patch

[astral hamlet]

I am aware

Hence why I said “old”

[nova cairn]

carcass and the manacubus

[visual mirage]

Or you could just kill them with the blast of mastered pb

[nova cairn]

go in to glorykill him, carcass spawns the shield, it comes out of glorykill state and BOOM, self defense slam, youre dead

[astral hamlet]

Headshot blast doesn’t kill mecha zombies, it staggers them

[visual mirage]

Nuh uh

[astral hamlet]

It’s 400 damage, mecha zombies have 500 health

Even a regular precision bolt non-headshot doesn’t kill a mecha zombie outright

[visual mirage]

Idk why hugo said that its easier to aim for weakpoints with sticky bombs

And pb is the “advanced” way

[candid dawn]

Bigger hitbox idk

[nova cairn]

its easier to destroy them with sticky bombs

i used to use them when i was still a hurt me plenty coward

but i learnt that you cant switch to another weapon until the bomb explodes so then i forced myself to destroy em with ballista/pbs

[visual mirage]

“hurt me plenty coward”

zamn

[astral hamlet]

Stickies take way more skill to get a crit with than pb, idk what Hugo was talking about lol

[nova cairn]

i find it easier because the bombs just attach themselves to the weak points

its a bit harder to destroy revenent canons with them though

[astral hamlet]

At point blank it’s easier yeah
But at range it takes some sauce to get the trajectory right

[nova cairn]

at range, its physics time

[visual mirage]

Just spam them lol

[nova cairn]

spamming them kind of reminds me of the first level

Hell on earth which could just be another name for school

[visual mirage]

Wish Eternal had more earth themed levels

[nova cairn]

yeah

[compact gazelle]

I like to create splash damage as much as i can, heat shot with the sticky when I can, use blood punches, and precision bolt quick swap with the rocket launcher. Equipment fiend and speed boost make it all the more fun too, because of the rate at which you fire and faster refill time for equipment. Allows for more overall dps and recovery if one is lucky. also at close range fire, grenade, ss, balissta quick swap is a deadly combo but pretty safe for the slayer, especially when followed up with glory kill invincibility, followed by blood punches, and hammer slams, sometimes the punches and hammer refill each other, so you can loop them a few times with the ss ballista quick swap combo for massive damage

[visual mirage]

I agree

[compact gazelle]

some say its harder but I just used my 3rd person toggle on tormented earth unbalanced, although I died, it made the round feel less crowded. but the aiming is hard, though I can do it, I may make a post/video or something short just for fun with that.

with doom, its like i feeel someone is always behind me that i dont know about ready to strike. 3rd person tells me to relax. def easier.

[ebon elbow]

that's why I play with 120 fov. def an adjustment for aiming tho

[compact gazelle]

i use these comamnds for my fov, i added to steam under doom eternal setttings +fps_max 144 +com_skipIntroVideo 1 +sync_JeffsFOVHottness 0 +sync_autoFOV 0 +hands_offsetx 0.15 +hands_offsety 0 +hands_offsetz -0.03 +hands_fovscale 1.05 +g_fov 130

also that combo dont forget to add a chaingun shield into the mix to avoid taking damage from demons outside the stun zone

i love to blood punch from a chain gun shield and I go to settings and then properties, and where it says launch options for advanced users you can input those commands

[oak storm]

finished all Horde Mode Challenges

i did another Run on UV with atleast 20 Lives reamin

[gleaming rampart]

How exactly do I fire the precision bolt while skipping the zoom in animation? I see a lot of players do that and I honestly have no clue how they’re doing it

[austere bronze]

you wanna start pressing alt fire, and then as soon as possible press fire

[visual mirage]

Doom eternal already runs well without the need of fake frames

[final oracle]

Is there any way to make the mouse movement less wonky? In doom eternal
Feels very inconsistent

[cyan coral]

Why cant i find the skin you get with deluxe edition, i think i should have deluxe probably

[visual mirage]

In game go to Options > Bethesda.net > Reconcile Entitlements

[cyan coral]

I pressed that and it said wait and nothing happened

[visual mirage]

Did you even buy the deluxe edition?

[final oracle]

Is there any way to make the mouse movement less wonky? In doom eternal
Feels very inconsistent

[tired kraken]

turn off mouse acceleration

[final oracle]

I did

[rugged crown]

Hey guys, sorry if wrong place to ask, is there any discord where people are getting together to farm the multiplayer achievs?I'm in need for bloodbath one

[real cargo]

Also make sure to turn off “enhanced pointer precision” in windows mouse settings

[final oracle]

Yep i did that

[real cargo]

have u also turned off v-sync

[final oracle]

lemme check

[final oracle]

off now

OH

[final oracle]

TYSM, its so much better

[ebon elbow]

oh wow didn't know about +com_skipIntroVideo 1. awesome

[south spire]

Unlucky bro

[scarlet pier]

Chat I won't lie

The fact the pistol isn't in the game is so funny to me. The devs really went 'nah screw that you're starting with a REAL weapon'

[gentle thicket]

I gotta ask y'all a question do y'all play doom eternal with the gun on the left or classic aka gun in the middle

[scarlet pier]

Gun in the middle is just not for me personally

I just think it's worse than what we had in OG doom

[austere bronze]

gun on the left is wild, i do gun on the right xd

[gentle thicket]

I mean the right

[scarlet pier]

The game was clearly intended for the default option

And gun in the middle of the screen was kinda slapped on for oldheads

[gentle thicket]

Idk classic gun style is working for me when Im playing eternal

[scarlet pier]

Not saying it's broken or anything but I just don't think it was polished enough

[azure oriole]

Random question but anyone have a ballpark guess how long it takes to beat the last level of eternal for a first timer? I'm trying to see if I got time to knock it out today so hoping it's not a huge level

[gentle thicket]

Btw I'm playing eternal without aim assist

[scarlet pier]

Braver than me

[gentle thicket]

I'm not that brave I'm playing on hurt me plenty

[austere bronze]

40-60 min?

[gentle thicket]

Depends what difficulty

Also no aim assist

[austere bronze]

not really

[gentle thicket]

How? M1

Because you can't just beat the icon of sin in 20 minutes on the hardest difficulty

Unless if he's a doom master

[visual mirage]

I beat it in 2

[austere bronze]

2 different people may die the same exact amount on the easiest difficulty and the hardest

[gentle thicket]

Minutes or hours

[visual mirage]

Seconds

[gentle thicket]

That's not possible I think

It might tho

[austere bronze]

yeah it isn't

[gentle thicket]

Beating the icon of sin in 2 seconds is like watching DSP play doom eternal without complaining

It's not possible

[austere bronze]

there's also a hard cap on how long it takes to kill the IoS, since both healthbars need quite a bit of time to deplete, and you need to watch his walking away animation

[visual mirage]

Ok I lied

[austere bronze]

dam didn't realise

[visual mirage]

I actually beat it in 5

[sudden blade]

grrr

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-bunny-grab-hand-meme-gif-9151059333928663509

[empty lynx]

Do alot of ppl still play online?

[visual mirage]

No

[shell vine]

https://tenor.com/view/nuntidou-nunti-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-gif-23472119

[ebon elbow]

icon of sin first phase can actually be done pretty quickly without much trouble. he gets stunlocked when you destroy an armor piece. just bfg the torso, chest, and/or head then get up close and personal and go to town on his arms and hands. pb+ssg and pb+ballista work great.

for an easier tactic, boosted micro missiles melt through him, especially with mastery

[azure oriole]

What do you guys think is the better game to replay when trying a higher difficulty: 2016 or eternal?

This is the first time I've beaten any doom game and I did it on the easiest difficulty for both games but now I want to try going harder. Should I start with 2016 again or eternal?

2016 seemed like a cooler vibe/story but eternal is great with all the ways to replenish your own health/shields/ammo/etc.

But that might be my fault because I kind of rushed thru eternal. So part of me says replay eternal first since it's more recent in my head and I rushed it, but the other part says 2016 makes sense if I played in order again

[twin gale]

depends on your skill level in both games

[jolly kernel]

does something ever happen if an enemy in Eternal goes into the underwater portions of a level? iirc that never happens in normal gameplay

[noble zealot]

ARCHVILES LOOK LIKE STEREOTYPICAL ALIENS, AND THE PACK MADE IT CANNON, CHANGE MY MIND

[twin gale]

theres a speedrun strat in uac atlantica facility where you make a marauder fall into the water and he disappears

[ebon elbow]

eternal has always been more replayable imo. the combat loop is incredibly satisfying and is "fairer" especially at higher difficulties

[visual mirage]

Ground homing attacks tracking even on air

[torpid carbon]

Did Doom Eternal get an update that made the game easier recently? I just replayed it for the first time in months, on nightmare, and i didn't have that much trouble, only dying a handful of times, never picking up a 1-up. I was playing like shit the whole time and was still winning

[real holly]

Eternal

2016 Nightmare is just unfun to me lol

[visual mirage]

2016's nightmare is more punishing

[twin gale]

nah you might just be goated like that

[real holly]

This is a common but weird phenomenon, happens to us commonfolk gamers and top level world record setting speed runners, they come back after a break and either instantly or nearly instantly completely demolish the game they are playing, happened recently with me with another game funnily enough

I've lost count of how many times in Summoning salt a speedrunner comes back from a long break and gets a world record

[torpid carbon]

How odd

[torpid carbon]

Nah i was playing like shit the whole time

[austere bronze]

i'd assume they just die

since they have no pathing there

[real holly]

I wonder if their corpses would float up or just fall down limp like usual

[storm eagle]

I think they just vanish

[compact gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-guy-thats-crazy-woozy-crazy-scientist-gif-18248326040104658804

[azure oriole]

Hello guys

Im new to eternal

[elder raft]

welcome to peak

[azure oriole]

Thanks

Is the dlc worth it

Idk if its any good

Its kinda pricey

[austere bronze]

if it's on sale, yessir, otherwise? depends

[elder raft]

yes

[azure oriole]

But im only gettin 1 game a month if im lucky

[elder raft]

if you want more doom eternal then this delivers

[azure oriole]

Im on chapter taras nabad

[elder raft]

complete the game then see if you want it or not. it's just more doom eternal with more levels and additions. adds new stuff like upgrades, a new weapon, new enemies and stuff like that

[austere bronze]

yea you can always replay the campaign and/or do master levels before deciding whether to buy the dlc or not

[azure oriole]

hellp

idk what to do

ther is the simble from the start in white it say i have to go there i do that and nothing happens

[graceful current]

TAG 1 is awesome gameplay/level/aesthetics wise, story wise it's kinda ehh but if you enjoy the gameplay and want something harder you'll love it

TAG 2 is a bit more ropey in regards to everything I listed but I still enjoyed the 3 levels it had

[real holly]

Tag 2 is more fun for more experienced players if you don't use the Hammer (outside of the boss you kinda need it for that)

[elder raft]

the hammer is fun tho

[austere bronze]

it's bad

[real holly]

Many don't find it fun, including myself. At one point I did though, but the better I got the less I liked it

[elder raft]

i find it fun. leaping in the air and screaming while slamming back down is fun

i'm a simple man. give me something dumb that's funny or fun and i'll love it

[real holly]

Ah yes, the Slayer screams when slamming the Hammer

" "

Truly the scream of all time

[elder raft]

nah nah. i do the screaming. doom slayer can be silent all he wants. he be screaming on the inside

[graceful current]

hammer is pretty awesome imo

yeah sure it makes it a bit easy but like idrc it's a fun weapon

if i want a hard challenge i'll play TAG 1

[elder raft]

actually, something i thought of. there are times people ask doom slayer stuff and he ofc doesn't respond and just stands there. think he's just doing it for the funny or because he's traumatized

[real holly]

I personally appreciate the arenas more without the Hammer

[real holly]

Trauma and a lot of the questions can be answered by just physical movement, like "Slayer do this for me" and he does it

[real holly]

Makes it more rewarding to win

[elder raft]

"and that'll destroy all of 'em, right?"
casually just stands there not saying anything and just looking at him
"... i'll take that as a yes"

[real holly]

[elder raft]

i just thought that was funny because he didn't look mad or anything then. he was just staring at him 😭

[real holly]

I think the Slayers mannerisms are best expressed in his interaction with The Betrayer

The Slayer is nice to him up till The Betrayer mildly chastises the Slayer for his quest, causing Slayer to pull the celestial locator thingy harder away from The Betrayer, but when he asks to be heard, the Slayer stops dead on his tracks without hesitation

[elder raft]

idk. i got more of a "you've done some shit, but i'm not here for that. what's done is done" vibe from him

[real holly]

"it is your people's time to give penance, just as it was mine's"

[real holly]

I genuinely believe the Slayer doesn't hold Ill will towards him due to the fact the betrayal came from grief due to the loss of his son

[elder raft]

that pissed him off yeah but he probably brushed that off because everyone tells him that

[real holly]

And truth be told, they were cooked either way, the betrayer just made it happen faster

[elder raft]

pretty sure doom slayer had a hunch of what would happen considering that one cutscene from tda too

[austere bronze]

the issue with it isn't just that it's overpowered though, it's how it's literally opposite to so many parts of eternal's combat

[elder raft]

yeah pretty much

[graceful current]

🤷‍♀️

[brittle silo]

Can someone dm me I need help getting the online achievement

[ebon elbow]

you gotta hit the two green switches at the opposite sides of the arena in quick succession

[gentle geyser]

yo im in an ultra nightmare run and i did the bfg at the end of nekravol 2 but the doom hunter never spawned so im stuck

[austere bronze]

alt+f4

[gentle geyser]

isnt there a command to trigger the ending?

i have meath00k installed so

[austere bronze]

you'll be able to play from the last checkpoint if you do this

[gentle geyser]

it wont kill my run?

[austere bronze]

you could do find checkpoints, and then "trigger (name of last checkpoint)" but i don't know if that'll break something lol

[austere bronze]

nope

it's how people cheat UN runs too

[gentle geyser]

ok lets see

also is this a consistent thing i had it happen before where a bfg at the end just makes it so the doom hunter never spawns

ok sick that worked thx

[austere bronze]

yeah there is a wack soft lock in nek pt2, i'm guessing it's what you came across

[gentle geyser]

yea its right before you enter urdak with the tyrant n stuff

[austere bronze]

pretty sure it was added in in a later update too xd

[austere bronze]

yup, then that's it

[urban plinth]

Guys

Any way to cheese ultra nightmare runs on console

[storm eagle]

I'll personally never understand why people wanna do this to get a gold skin they didn't earn.

[urban plinth]

I just wanna 100% the game