#doom-eternal
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the one where they throw hell knights and pinkies onto you?
Yeah
how😭
I had trouble with that boss for reasons I don't know of. but I think it makes everything else look easy in comparison
I don't know 
to the point where I don't even finish the level when I get to the end boss I just quit
The arena with a possessed baron was like wayy harder
it's like every time I get a pb ballista off at a box, it closes...
and then proceeds to teleport directly above me
every single time
You were prolly just unlucky, the game wanted to screw wit u
maybe
Do you find it harder than the samur fight?
yeah 100 percent
Cuz fck that fight in particular
at least there you get checkpoints
Damn
what how😭
but with the boxes I consistently get past the first 2 rounds but get bitchslapped by both boxes fucking with me
honestly fuck all of the dlc bosses LMAO
Sorry to jump in, is bethesda.net working on PC for y'all?
real
they're all annoying imo
Oh, scratch that, it's all good and working now.
I get that it's just customary for doom to have a big bad demon boss fight but Eternal did em really badly
I like it because it's short and to the point, but difficult
it and the doom hunter fight are probably the only bosses I actually enjoy
yeah doom hunter was fun
this one I don't like though
all the screen shaking just pisses me off
The khan maykr fight is the best boss battle in da game
wild take
True
yea idk about khan maykr

once you learn that she has a period where she doesn't shoot stuff at you before every phase she just turns into a cakewalk
I liked the doom 2016 bosses honestly
if they were faster/more difficult (and the bfg was less OP) then they would have been peak
it's hard to say what a game like doom eternal should be ideally in its boss design but I don’t think the marauder direction was the way to go but it did let them see the idea for TDA with the shield
My copium on that is they made it during the pandemic, in their homes so they could not go all out
The zombies from HoE put up a better fight 
I remember seeing this real weird strat where you fire rockets up into the air the second Marauders spawn, and the moment they deploy their Shield upward, you nail them with a ballista shot.
yeah you can misdirect their shield with a lock-on burst
Imagine it misdirects them enough for you to land a BFG shot 💀
there's actually a funny trick like that
you shoot a bfg over their head and they use their shield to block the tendril, but then you falter him with a ballista which makes him drop his shield and take all of the remaining bfg tendril damage
OR you can faulter them with PB and just do a direct bfg hit
yeah that works too
but it's funnier to shoot his ass with the ballista and make him take the tendril damage like an idiot
but its also fun to use the bfg as a huge fuck you
The marauder fears no man. But that thing (chain gun shield mod) it scares him. He puts his shield up and keeps it up as long as you have the barrier up
I might just do this whenever I get around to replaying the mars core master level
the encounter with the two marauders is just super tedious so I'll probably bfg one of them
They Fear One More Thing Far Ledges And Platforms
I think it's more of a case of him being not very bright
so when he sees the slayer put his shield up he's not sure what to do so he just copies 😆
Hold on…if you’re REALLY sans. I bet you can’t tell me why skeletons don’t dance in public!
(They RIB holes in their pants!)
nice one pyro tf2
That was quite humerus 
What, you got a BONE to pick with me? You’re just jealous I CRACKED it first!
What's gotten you so rattled?
I was just ribbing you
(I’m proud)
I mean…if you got the spine for it, tell me another, ha.
Now now, there's no need to be sternum
You Know Why a Skeleton didn't go to a party? He had no "body' to go with
Holy shit its Sans from Undertale
Ok

it's also funny to lock onto him, shoot to the sky, then ballista when he blocks the rockets
it makes him look like a total idiot
Holy shit its Sans Deltarune
Yo wsg sans
prob one of the coolest techs in the game
just replayed mars core master level
and goddamn that last arena goes on for way too long
yeah its obnoxious but its a fun encounter ngl
2 tyrants, then 2 doom hunters, then a bunch of buffed stuff, then 2 barons, and finally 2 more tyrants
like damn
one of my favorite things that the later MLs did was put you through a gauntlet of buffed monsters and only after you've proven your prowess can you destroy the totem/archvile
Rip and Tear… UNTIL ITS DONE!!!
taras nabad does it a few times and it's fun
better than throwing the totem at you and you immediately knowing where it is and destroying it in the first 10 seconds it spawns in
let it run a little, even out the playing field
If I ever see a archvile buffed by a totem I will smash my head on to the screen.
Can a archvile buff a archvile.
No, they can't but if they did.. 
If they did and they could summon each other.
I remember playing horde mode and there were 2 buffed marauders and there were 4 eyeball turrets guarding the buff totem.
hell nah 😭
If you are wondering where it is last world last level last round.
I lost 17 extra lives but that is my skill issue.
Do you think somebody will make a real life BFG 10000.
Yeah but what if a communist country made it.
Imagine one night you see a cacodemon but you have a super shotgun would you kill it and be an eternal slayer or wait for the doom slayer.
i mean
if the workers own the means of production
so too must they possess the means of destruction
yeah i think that's a quote from marx
I think we would be cooked.
fun
Unless we all have super shotguns.
which we dont
dudee whaat, how haven't i learnt of punch BATS until now😭
makes you wonder how much else there is

oh yeah @astral hamlet we were talking about if punch swapping stickies really is worth it yesterday, but another bonus on top of the 20% speed increase is that punching maintains fast state, so you'll be able to swap out of them much faster, and even transfer fast state into the rocket launcher
and both of them combined makes it pretty beneficial
cause unfortunately the irl SSGs uh
went obsolete a while back :/
What are you talking about how do you do that?
punch swapping sticky bombs?
No you can’t.
what
I just tried it you can’t.
what the heck is a punch swap
you can. and should.
whatever you say bro
https://youtu.be/aOF1dsOpr2s?si=pOMODg06n0U-7-Pc
You shoot a weapon then punch and there is no reload time.like snipe punch snipe.
Really?
that sounds cracked
It is.
I replayed Cultist yesterday and felt lazy so just rocket and sticky punched my way through it 💀😅
Now I’ll use this to finish exultia.
You are a master then.
Can’t figure out sticky boom though.
Are there fairy’s in exultia.
keep in mind that for rocket and sticky punch swaps, you have to activate FSE (fast swap effect) in them beforehand, which makes the swap significantly faster
it's most commonly done with a pb shot so you go pb->sticky->punch, in the video however you may have noticed that i didn't use a pb to initiate it, that's because you can activate FSE in tons of ways and i was too lazy to swap away so i just used a method that only requires the combat shotgun but has a somewhat difficult timing
and for stickies in particular, you don't need to press your weapon bind after each punch like you normally do with punch swaps
hahah, as you should!
I think I will stick to my lovely sniper.
Dey call it da Sleeper skills 
literally all the gameplay i've seen from you is practicing punch swaps lol
they look really crisp though
heyyy thank u🙏
Yeah
I'll practice more stuff when motivated. Aka a long time from now.
Do you play on pc.
yis
Can you do that on controller tho.
haven't tried, don't care to try
My controller is for watching TV and playing Legos and Mortal Kombat
Oh okay You can’t do it as quick then.
Or I suck.
Oh I misread
Stupid caco ruined my run.
I'd honestly sticky bomb everything if I was playing at that framerate
No the frame is fine except when I master levels then it crashes.
Microwave beam or heat thing. I am about to get it.
Lego star wars tcs the goat
you can punch swap on controller, but stickies are rockets are hard
Thank you bro.
I like having gun fights with my friends.
oh my gosh I actually don't have assignments to do so I can play mars core ml
Isn’t summer holidays.
Nice, did you ever use the disarm troopers extra?
mine ended like a week or 2 ago
Nah I don’t own it my friend does and we only got to attack of the clones.
The rest of the game is fun, I have it 100% on my phone
Cool.
im gonna try to UN tag1
it'll be crazy
and ass
so far so good, I already made it pass the first level
Did the demons invade the United Nations .
Australia is safe tho and Cyprus and Madagascar.
But actually what do you mean.
UN tag1
It means im trying to complete the first dlc campaign on ultra nightmare

Jesus why did that edit took so long. My wifi is hitting the shitters
Oooooooh thanks for the explanation.
yall what is the timing for quick swapping ballista since i know it can be quick swapped cuz i did it several times but idk when should i switch back to HC
what do you mean?
like what is the timing to quick swap ballista
shoot and switch
u just have to get a feel for it
its more of a muscle memory thing
yeah but i mean like i know shoot switch but after i shoot heavy cannon and switch to ballista i fire it and it takes like 3 seconds to switch back
i remember i could quick swap with it i just dont know whats the timing
i alr can do stuff like pb rocket launcher
do u have the suit upgrade for faster weapon switch on that save
thats pretty odd
hold up ill record a vid and post it in videos
so you can know what i mean
yes
as soon as you fire the pb, switch to ballista, and as soon as you fieee it press the hc binf
other are fine
that way you're buffering the heavy cannon and it'll switch to it thr first frame possible
thats not what i mean
ill upload a video in videos
in a sec
confusing
im still on a mission
he means he’s getting a 3 second delay before he can switch back to hc
alr
thats what i meant when i want to quick swap ballista
oh
oh
so?
it looks normal
just click with motion
can u try recording for longer
I also get that sometimes
ill have to send the vid on discord cuz of the 15 min cooldown
is the delay part of the reason why u werent able to scope in during the later half of the vid?
after you scope in
he couldn't shoot
he's doing pb too quickly
he needs to give a few milliseconds b4 firing
still weird tho
don't rlly have tips for this
usually even when i shoot too early with pb it registers as a normal hc shot instead of a pb shot
can i send the vid here?
but it just fixed for me the more I play
or do i have to wait 15 minutes
u dont need to send another vid anymore
try practicing pb with punch swap tech
no worries
get a feel with the timing
welp since i alr made another one ill send it again just to be clear
just out on inf ammo cheat code or commands
can't see it for some reason
ill send it in dms then
like its just black screen for me
try to open it on yt instead of dc
yep I did that and was black screen but worked afterwards
is ur problem that you can't fire after ballista?
i want to quick swap with ballista like pb + ballista i alr told in the video
and showed an example
wait you were talking? mb I have no sound rn
yes i used my voice this time
looks pretty normal
I'm pretty sure that's how fast it is
bc pb ballista isn't a very fast combo
pb rocket is the fastest
if you think that then ur srsly blind
i jst showed how i quick swapped ballista
how did u not notice?
jst like pb rocket
so did you figure out what i mean?
ballista my belovesd

so do you get now what i mean
like i want pb ballista to look like pb rocket
to quick swap it
uh
cuz its possible
yeah
nah srsly
srsly
ill showcase it again
pb ballista is slower than pb rocket
The best and most complex combo is: lock on lock on lock on lock on 
real stuff
real shit
okay so, the reason pb+rocket is fast is because pb applies fse to rhe rocket (fast swap effect), which you can technically do with the ballista, but it's frame perfect, therefore inconsistent
better guy to explain
oh alr
i guess i have to learn how to punch swap
okay nvm i try my hardest but i cant punch swap
wut r you doing for punch swapping?
stickys
stickies are hard for me idk why
gotta get used to em
can't even pb sticky correctly🔥
what punch swaps?
any kind of stickies RL ballista etc (only tried stickys)
but tbh rocket launcher punch swaps seem the most fascinating
You didn't even anwsers his question
i meant that tech
like yk punching to fire a weapon rapidly
is a possessed imp normal? I didnt kill any other spirit buffed enemy in the arena
Okay
Did extra life mode sgn master level with 4 deaths
I am not excited to try ultra nightmare at all
What part do u die the most?
way better than me lmao
The 2 marauders in the sewer, the final encounter with like 4 tyrants and 3 archviles, and that one tight room with 2 tyrants and a doom hunter
I recommend bfg'ing one marauder
How much bfg and crucible shots do you still have when you get to that part?
If you have full ammo, you can waste 1 on the marauder. You'll still have like 3 bfg ammo (you can pick 2 from the arena + with the spare you still have)
Throw a bfg shot when the tyrants spawned in. That should clear most of the arena except for the tyrants. Take em out one by one, then you can use the remaining 2 for the archville spawns
2 crucibles and 0 bfg lol
Damn
I do not know why, but i start the level with 0 bfg ammo
It just doesn't give me any
Go to Taras nabad and collect some
Isn't he immune to the bfg
Atleast that's what i've heard
I've never actually tried bfg'ing a marauder
Should you not crusible marauders. And save big f-ing gun ammo for tyrants.
I don't think you can crucible marauder
I'll try it
My strat so far was just
Run around the sewer while i kept shooting splash damage at their feet
Rockets, grenades, stickies
that's fair
rocket punch swaps are tough though
tbh i dont know how to do punch swaps
i mean
i just watched a short yt tut
but still dont know how they work
i still dunno any of the complex tech yet
which techs are complex
i can atleast do BATS
What's that
its when you fire a weapon and after that quickly switch between modes to quickswap
only in glory kill state so that way you can waste it
you can’t crucible marauders and the bfg ammo shouldn’t be used on tyrants specifically
you have to stun them with a PB specifically cuz of the fastest swapping speed
If you BFG the air in that arena, wouldn't it still be worth it? It'd still chunk down the tyrants a decent amount
i mean like tyrants shouldn’t be an indicator to use the bfg
they best shine in rooms with a fuck ton of heavy demons
Interesting
like the biggest arena in sgn ml
So you basically just style all over them
U can do it with a ballista shot, that's wat I did
But yeah a PB is better
shoot, punch, press your weapon bind, repeat
in the case of rocket/sticky you have to activate fse, so they're much quicker, and you don't have to press your bind for stickies specifically
Yeah, but i get my first BFG ammo during that big ass arena in sgn, and it's the final encounter, so might aswell use it xd
Aight possessed baron is down. This UN run is looking clean
yeah
if its a room with like 2 tyrants and not much else i wouldnt do it
oh i didn’t know that
I'm talking about that final encounter with like 4 tyrants and then when you kill like 2 of them, 3 archviles spawn
oh then sure chz of the archviles
im just saying tyrants themselves shouldn’t indicate bfg usage rather a large amount of heavies
I usually just run around and rain fire on the tyrants from the sky and crucible 2 of the archviles
And then ice bomb the other one and just kill it normally
i use crucible and bfg during escape sequence
lowkey best arena in the game tho
I honestly just keep dashing frantically hoping i don't die during the chase sequence
you can? that's dope
and it opens up the door for actually doing a faster pb+ballista swap, if you mod swap cancel when going from the pb to rhe ballista and from the ballista to tye pb, your swaps can look like they do in the beginning here, which is about 15% more dps than doing it normally
https://youtu.be/quPtsWA-tHM?si=wuOjf98C_Y_G_ScU
ESPECIALLY from the 2 buffed marauders right near the end
you can't only MSC from the ballista to the heavy cannon, then there's a long delay on the pb
hell nah not those bozos
imagine if you had to kill both of them to get the teleporter to open
shiver me timbers
No thanks
The 2 marauders in the sewer are bs enough
that'd be against the geneva convention
Honestly i think i have to practice the most for that tight room
With 2 tyrants, a doom hunter and alotta carcasses
That room is the bane of my existence
there's a bug where u can trigger that one arena without picking up the berserk and quad damage power ups so u can save them for the double marauders
u have to slowley inch towards it
until the enemies spawn
I actually did the 2nd wave without the purple buff the first time
Though how do you even pick up berserk/damage buff and have them last until you get to the marauders
u have to hurry up
ive only been able to use it against one marauder
before having it run out
Okay final fight. I will cry if I choke this
i imagine if u wanna be able to kill both of them u have to ballista boost to the first end of the sewer to make both of them spawn faster
Good luck vro you got this (idk what you're doing 😁)
Taking out 1 marauder is enough for me
1 marauder by himself is pathetic
2 marauders with a floor hazard and tight arena isn't
OMG I DID IT
Doing tag1 UN
CONGRATS!!
I want to try that soon just because of the golden skin you get
I forgot what it's called
Naw man, I just only finished the 2nd level lmao
Aurum i think?
Good job regardless
TAG1 has 3 chapters right
They'll reward you another gold skin?
Yeah
but the 3rd one is fcking miserable cuz of the boss fight
I killed the doom hunter so fast he said critical damage twice 💔
just practice on another savefile you got this
Yeah, that's what I'm doing rn
alright good
Samur is easy
UNTIL he spawns the last 2 spirits + pain elemental and dread knight
ive also just beaten tag1, on ultra violence.. I didnt want to risk anything with the extra life mode. Turns out it was too easy because I didnt lose one life
And then he becomes miserable
Yeah, that part is fcking painful
shiver me timbers
I'm hoping to complete all of the campaign + DLCs on UN before my playtime reaches 150 hours
Already finished campaign, so the DLCs are left
Good luck
bfg can do good work there
I want to do un on the main campaign after i finish super gore nest and get the golden shotgun
I wanna do it with the full gold set
Phobos slayer + gold skin on all weapons
UN campaign is fairly moderate in difficulty. It only spikes in cultist base, after that, it's smooth sailing
I dont use it either
Btw kyper i dmed you the golden skin you get from TAG1 un
The only place where i've used the BFG in the main campaign was that one arena on final sin
With like everything in it
Arachno, cyber manc, manc, pain elementals
But i can do it normally now
congrats
I abuse the fuck out of super weapons 
If there's a random ass bfg ammo laying on the ground, bet ur ass that I'll shove it down a Marauder's throat
They feel like cheating to me so i stop myself from using them lmfao 😭
That's fair
ALTHOUGH
I do make an exception for the unmaykr
I use it to quickly kill tyrants and barons
I never tried that weap b4
It's a single target beast
Just not flashy like the bfg
It's alot more useful in the DLC's cause there's a ton of super heavies
I would just spam PB rocket at them til they're dead
Way more than the main campaign
Or ice bomb PB ssg if I'm feeling it
I also do that most of the time
99,9% damage reduction against the tendrils btw
What
I use the unmaykr if the tyrants are big threats in the arena
Well there goes my plan
Unmaykr takes them out WAY faster
Especially if you ice bomb them for the damage buff
samur's possessed demons in particular have a 99,9% resistance against rhe bfg's tendrils
didnt really feel like it when I tested it
Can I use the unmaykr instead? Although I never used it b4
maybe because the bfg directly hit the pain elemental then
you can, but it's probably just better to use conventional weapons
4 arba shots takes out the PE, 2 LOBs for the dread knight
you can just immediately take out the PE and then beam the spirits while staying on the elevated platforms
Wouldn't charging 4 full arbalest shots kinda be not ideal when possessed enemies are so ungodly aggresive and fast
its fine if u keep a good amount of distance
Aight, I might try that
it's actually quite okay as long as you hit all your shots so your reload is faster
aren't samur spirit-buffed enemies nearly immune to bfg tendrils?
99,9% immunity yes
yeah I thought so
sorry ill never speak again
How about the main projectile?
noo
unmayker lowk sucks not cuz it’s inefficient but because it shares ammo with the bfg, only use it on single targets like a spirited superheavy or smth
I might try it on the possessed tyrant
that last round of the boss fight I just spammed LOBs on the dread knight and emptied all 60 rounds of the unmaykr into the pain elemental's face
nah it's not worth it there
funnily enough the main projectile's direct hit deals more than usual against all samur spirit buffed enemies except rhe dread knight, but rhe splash which is most of the damage from the bfg is reduced, so they take about 50% of the normal damage from a direct hit
just circle strafe bunny hop around him and you'll basically never get hit, even though he's a bit faster than usual
between 30 and 50%
Interesting
Aight
(the enemy you hit does take the splash damage too)
yall what are some reccomended key binds for my weapons so i can quick switch or punch swap while moving?
(i saw a vid that gives some keybinds but now i cant find it and only have a custom bind for SSG)
idk what the speedrunners are using but i'll give u the ones i use
everything default except i have q and e for ssg and ballista
and chaingun binded to 5
i have my nades binded to g
@austere bronze it doesn't make much of a difference to ya but I've discovered that it is indeed possible to rocket punch with the weapon wheel
caps lock for mod switch
tab for nade switch
what ISNT possible is holding down the fire button while punching and pressing rocket bind. cuz what happens is you lose FSE after the second rocket
this makes rocket punching a little bit harder, I might have to invite JK Simmons over and have him yell at me over rhythm
I use 1 rocket launcher, 2 ssg, 3 ballista, 4 heavy cannon, 5 chaingun, t combat shotgun, g plasma, 6 bfg
r flame belch, f mod swap, e melee
I also use kaibz mod so I have mouse4 set to frag and mouse5 set to ice bomb
ARE YOU A RUSHER, OR ARE YOU A DRAGGER
yo wait how
rocket punch SLAP rocket punch SLAP WAS THAT OVER OR UNDER
I dont know? but I am certain that it works with weapon wheel, I had FSE for a few rockets
which was dropped because I don't have the rhythm yet😭
but it definitely works
oh that's cool
you'll definitely get there, you don't have to get perfevt with it to use it in combat either
and eventually it just becomes second nature
i've gotten roughly 297 rocket punch swaps in a row once lol
what almost 1000 hours if zealous punch swapping in combat does to you
How do you ballista boost like crazy.
walk forward, jump, let go of movement keys, turn around, shoot ballista, turn back, and then you can press movement keys again
if you don't use air control you don't have to let go of anything
So run jump and shoot.
yessir
Nice thank you man.
I could be wrong but I actually think holding S WITH air control makes the boost more effective
I've tried it both ways and I think you get a little further if you follow through with holding S through the boost and then adjusting your movement as you turn
I can not seem to find the S button on my controller. I guess I will use the stick.
he meant s on keyboard lol
pulling back on the stick as you shoot and rotating as you turn is the same idea lol
also once you get good enough at ballista boosting, you can integrate it into combos to create distance for long range snipes on a big monster
imma need a new mosue to comfortably ballista boost
like double the ballista boost as an attack, create some distance then do a heavy cannon shot and hail a million sticky bombs and grenades on the demon
I know.
skull
Revenant.
nah it's less effective
unless you're extremely well timed with it, but even then you'd only be holding it for less than 0,1s so it doesn't really make an difference
biggest thing you can do if you wanna optimize your ballista boosts is to practice hitting a perfect 180 degree turn, because the closer you are to it, the more speed
but even that is very negligible if your ballista boosts already are decent
if you wanna take it even further, you can activate FSE with your ballista boost lol
but even if you can do that consistently, it's niche
or not really, but not all your ballista boosts would benefit from it
isn't ballista a slow weapon though
unless you mean PB ballista boost
yeah but this game is wacky, so it got something called wack swaps lol
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280357293418090516/1396896778057420860/Base_Profile_2025.07.21_-_18.45.57.23.mp4?ex=687fc100&is=687e6f80&hm=2e6e20a3a39dba9b09d45c824d04a3f789c1498b6a35356385d3bb6f9160ba22&
essentially, all that i'm doing here is immediately upon firing the weapon i press the heavy cannon bind, then immediately the rocket launcher/sticky bind
this will create first a buffer animation (the ballista being brought down then up, or the heavy cannon apperaring quickly), then when you get into your second weapon you have FSE
makes sense, just the heavy cannon bringup activates FSE
you can wack swap the ballista, ssg, rocket (if it doesn't have FSE) and the combat shotgun (if it doesn't have FSE)
so it's pretty much just shoot ballista, go into heavy cannon then immediately go into either rocket or shotgun
exactly
nice
I'm starting to get that this tech is simpler than it looks. I just learned how to slob and it's a lot of fun
I'm working it into my PB rocket chains as a finisher because you can also press RB and it still works like it should
so like PB rocket PB rocket repeat and then slob, you don't need to press rocket bind you can just press last weapon bind, effectively making PB rocket a setup for slob
is it still possible to get the quake 3 bundle
i'd say wack swaps are mostly useful if you're doing really advanced stuff, but you can do them after firing a dblade and arba (i believe slightlyy more DPS that way than going into pb normally), after meathooking and you fired the ssg afterwards (same thing again, but i'm less sure), after ballista boosts kinda, after lock-ons kinda
oh yeah, you can do a wack swap by mod swap cancelling into the heavy cannon too, which is required for the dblade and lock-on
essentially, wack swaps are a mostly irrelevant nerd thing!
oh yeah I know mod cancels, I use them sparingly though because I really don't like having to stop moving for a split second just to swap weapons marginally faster
I'll mod cancel after like a lock-on or dblade and then stun with like microwave beam to carry on FSE but otherwise it's kinda hard to pull off on controller ALL the time without looking like a dumbass
is it still possible to get the quake 3 bundle
yeah i almost never use them in a vacuum
like i'll always mod swap cancel for another purpose
they're ideal for those dumbass delays you get after certain mods
which techs should I learn that are useful
you know, the delay after arba/dblade, lock-on, microwave beam... for some reason microwave beam has you like a sitting duck? idfk why
I'm basically at 250 hrs
mod cancelling and fast swap effect are pretty damn useful imo
yeah true, but then i'll always tie it into something else like silent BATS or a wack swap
.
I'll def also learn slob, could be useful
you can work it into PB rocket chains and it's really funny, I love it
definitely one of my favorite things I've learned
SLOB, yeetblast (potentially), mod swap cancels, ballista/ssg punch cancels, silent mod swaps (potentially)
punch cancels are the punch swaps right
yes
the punch cancels also work on the rocket launcher dont they
if ur talking about what i think
time to pour prob 50 hrs learning those
yes and for stickies and pb, but since riptide has about 250 hours on the game, those are all the techs i'd recommend learning
if we're purely talking about tech worth learning, there's a ton
or not really an insane amount, but how they can interact with eachother gets interesting
I'll have to get used to pb sticky too
at first i thought the punch cancels was just ballista + punch repeat
when i was new
same fr
yeah it feels like a pretty universal experience to imagine you only need to punch😭
yea but i noticed that it wasnt like what i saw
the weapon bind part is really fucking weird ngl
I was confused and kept punching after pb until like 2-3 campaign runs later
2-3?
i changed it like 1 day later
ya
saw a tut and i realized how to do it
it's weird but worth mentioning you go a little faster if you rocket punch without FSE, which means the weapon bind key plays into how fast your gun fires after the punch somehow
didn't even bother searching up how to do it
whats fse
i dont understand
fast swap effect I think
what? you don't go faster without FSE
or did i misunderstand?
makes ur gun pull up faster or smth
like the praetor upgrade?
no
whats the fast swap effect
uh idk how to explain it
I think its with pb or heavy cannon
when you switch to another weapon it has fse so it pulls out the gun a bit faster or something like that
I forgort
exactly, fast swap effects allow slow firing weapons to have their bring-up speed be the same as fast swapping weapons, and you don't have to wait to swap out after shooting either
on what campaign should i do un on
it can be applied to weapons in many ways, with the most common being pb
i wanna get atleast 1 skin
I'm learning
so to rephrase, rocket punching without FSE for some reason fires a little bit faster than just firing a rocket after the other
uh idk tag 2 prob, skin looks cool imo
i heard tag 2 is the easiest but
honestly the last part is challenging
and this is tried and true, I tested rocket punching without FSE and I think the punch and bring up animation is faster than just firing consecutive rockets
i dont really remember since i played 1 year ago but i just got back on and i think theres a possesed baron of hell
with a cyberdemon
it's nowhere near as fast as rocket punching with FSE though
idk i js completed nightmare on the og campaign and i think i can take on un
I'll probably fail the achievement
maybe tag 1
aha yeah, that's because when you pull out your fists, the game thinks you swapped to another weapon
so if you then manually swap back after the punch, you reset the cooldown
yeah
phobos?
pretty cool honestly
and you don't have to press your weapon bind for stickies because you're just interrupting the animation
for sure
I'm alr done w that, I mean the extra lives achievement for dlcs
I completed the dlcs on uv without saying but idk abt nm
oh yeah
you gotta do nightmare
gold barbarian basically the budget gold slayer
I will
somewhat hot take, i dislike the level
the blood swamps? no wonder
its so annoying having to follow a dog spirit 50% of the level
I don't like the Holt stairs arena thing
what
it's the following the dog that annoys me
the holt?
went to a cyber mancubus for me
yep
best level in tag1 is UAC atlantica
oh wait with the boss fight
I love that level so much
honestly true
its feels simple, challenging and its fun
if u have bfg ammo before that possesed demon fire a bfg so it kills the demon before the spirit posseses him
I remember just being amazed at how much more interesting UAC atlantica is even in just level design compared to EVERYTHING before it
yeah the easy eye boss fight
THERES A RAIN EFFECT ON THE GUNS. I remember being like THATS SO COOL
I don't use bfg for that lol
hold on what are we talking about here im confused
I use bfg if I'm lazy or there's just way too many demons to kill
theres an eye boss in the blood swamps
yeah like the lil small boss fight with the 2 eyes
ohhhhh
like the arenas a bit too
boss fight was easy i ddint like the arena with the archvile
if ur talking about that then idk what to do i thought u were talking about the samur maykr bos fight
I actually found the boxes to be the hardest part of the level by far
the archvile arena was definitely the easier of the 2 big arenas though
I really wish we had a ML for UAC Atlantica
samur maykr wasn't allat imo
I get that UAC Atlantica is already difficult as it is and pushed the boundaries of the player's skill but I think a ML would have done the level so much justice
samur maykr is in the holt, the 2 eyes are in blood swamps
can't imagine an ml lol, thatd probably be the most difficult ml in the game
world spear ML only works because world spear vanilla was fairly easy
and that ML is bonkers hard
UAC atlantica is already pretty tough so the master level would have to just be ridiculous
I would eat a UAC atlantica ML up, it would be as hard as one of the user maps
like that one Hell on Earth remix that the bob-omb battlefield guy did, with the respawning totem
that is some shit
idk which custom levels to play
I feel like I'm not skilled enough for most of them lol
i dont remember how the boss fight goes so idk
Shoot till dead.
ur talking about the tyrant
Nah that’s generally everything.
what about like the cacodemon phase
In a boring shooter. Unlike DOOM ETERNAL.
got me there
Aww
Noo diplomatic solutions.
then ill tell it that u said that
Yay.
just beat the icon of sin
Look that normal person is talking sense.
😦
beat it
Also good job on beating it.


on nintendo awitch
whta
now what happends
yea but he lost them thats why we had to go to different levels to find them
tag 1
Beat Immora ML
am sad
thats why they stopped in the final sin
Me find no purpose of playing a game finished
horde mode, battle mode, tag 1, tag 2
1 and 2
I have a genuine question for doom
Btw I’m kinda new to the doom universe
So I haven’t decided which game I should buy first

Eternal or the dark ages
Before playing battle mode
eternals probably the best game but if you want a more slow paced game then the dark ages
so what is battle mode exactly
if i read it correctly before it said it was a prequel to dark ages
slayer vs 2 demon players
dlcs, master levels and mods if you're on pc
Ok so eternal is fast paced and dark ages is more of a slow but dark ages got more detail tho
on nintendo
yea dark ages got more details since its newer
if you want fast paced choose eternal i mean have you seen rk play the game?
2016 
everything from idk929 and microwavedbunny, their levels are pretty easy
don't
eternals fun and kinda stressing sometimes
2016 isn’t that like 9 yrs old or smth
yea buts its still a good game
but is that fast paced
Who cares
Graphics are still peak and the soundtrack/atmosphere is imo the best out of the modern trilogy
idk u play it how u want slow paced or fast paced
Imo the eternal is the best one out there
it doesnt have a dash or a meathook tho
cuz it is
Does eternal have that
i cant spoil it
I wouldn’t have appreciated eternal as much if I hadn’t played 2016 first, that much I know
Darn it
i love 2016 cuz of its demon designs and the mechanics
doom 3 is maybe the scariest but
ive heard it isnt that great
I was playing 2016 earlier, game still holds up even today
the pinky is terrifying
such a great game
Nah it does matter
Wait for TDA to go on sale
80 dollars normal edition 100 dollars deluxe...
70 bucks in the us
But still a little too expensive for a college brokie like me lol
guys is the mod swap punch cancel faster than the praetor faster mod switch upgrade
Imma start with eternal
js know its gonna be peak
And then at some point imma buy dark ages
no matter what
It might not feel like peak for the first few hours
And then 2016
???
trust me it will
Well for me it was fuckin hard
But once it kinda clicked it was so good
if you're playing eternal for the first time on like UV or NM you're gonna be miserable
I’m good on pc so I’ll figure it out
that early game saltiness WILL come to you
only level that will be hard will be taras nabad
whats nm i dont know
nightmare
nightmare
ngl eternal early game > 2016
alr imma try tag 1 un and see if i can beat uac alantica
How Much DOes the deluxe edition of doom eternalc ost in the Us
just because u can get air control earlier
i don't like replaying 2016 from new saves cuz no air control until later half
Cultist base is absolutely brutal
this
Even now it isn’t so easy to do deathless
Ahem ahem Urdak
The only fight I had trouble with in urdak was the baron/whiplash one
I struggled on ultra violence mode (I didn’t know they had the GIANT AXES that swing when you shoot the button, I was held in the corner and DIDDLED by a pair of obese fat men)
nah urdak's easier cuz u have ur full loadout at around that point
tie between 2016 and dark ages
K
Honestly I like 2016’s story the most
Which one has the most g0re and bl00d
2016
2016 easily
100% 2016
Aight
all of them have a lot of gore and blood but 2016 is the grittiest looking one
yall remember that hologram in foundry where the hell knight rips that poor guy apart and smashes the other one's head in?
yea
So 2016 has the most like graphical look
also doomguy just casually ripping a dead guy's arm off so he can use it for a print scan
yeah 2016 has a much grittier artstyle than eternal
Ok but can we agree on that eternal also is real gritty
idk Eternal is more cartoony than gritty
Nah it can get pretty cartoonish sometimes
Still my favorite game though
eternal is also very arcadey
you know you're at rock bottom when you hit the white monster + full volume + doom eternal combo
minus the white monster that just seems like a normal summer vacation day
Here we drink chimarrão in the summer and monster in the winter
Yo CHat I killed a tyrant using the microwave beam mod lol
You could say that was.... Co-mandible 
That's the last of my bone puns i promise lmao
you get too many extra lifes honestly
I don’t think so personally
The whole point is to get a high score, not to just complete the thing, so if the extra lives make it so that more people can finish the last mission that’s fine by me
If the lives are extra, it's all good anyway, right? Didn't need'em.
It's them 1-ups you gotta worry about. They aren't extra.
Why is pyro and sans undertale in the doom discord?
Why not?

i genuinely had to cheat the Blood Bath achievement
im only missing the online achievements now...
your whar
they are NOOOTTTT fun at all
yea
but I want to have all the achievements
i got every single one legit other than blood bath
I usually never do 100%
respectable
did the extra life achievement for tag1 and 2 today
good job :)
Anyone wanna private match grind multiplayer achievements?
Quit spamming gifs
You can't just ask questions, and then ignore us when we try to help you
Nvm
Don't waste people time next time.
it's got some nice cosmetic rewards
was it a real deal nightmare run or was it more of a "I just want to get the achievement" run
what are you on
It doesn't matter if they all have lore, literally every gif in the server is related to Doom. It just clogs up the chat when you post that many in a short period of time.
I wanted it so I only did it on UV
yah dont drive yourself insane
gl
Appreciate it. I know you just joined so I wanted to let you know in case you didn't. Since it's an official server there are a few guidelines, just so you don't accidentally do things you weren't aware of. It's all in the #rules-and-info section. If you have other questions or are unsure you can ask also.
what
being a lamer is lame
lame... lamer...
aaaaahaaaa
Imagine being lame 
hi pro gamer
uh idk Mars core ml but you prob alr know that
well just replayed mars core master level yesterday because everyone else is doing it
true
I might do Taras Nabad ml tonight

i may try the mars core ml
lm backwards is ml
good luck! punch and cancel until it is done
or alternatively just bfg until it is done
i did not lol, but i have been hearing a lot of talk about it from the chat
fack no I unbound that my guy
Mars core getting attention recently
no bfg no crucible
bfg is more of a "boredom free gun" for me
deservedly so
I use it when I get bored of an encounter and want to move on
killai is friend
true
like the mars core master level
by the time the last wave of tyrants rolled up I just couldn't be bothered
fair
UV was a bit too easy ngl
yeah the difference between nightmare and UV is enormous
2x damage on nightmare and way more aggressive AI just makes it feel completely different

I’m on Steam hbu
Yo
yo
yeah me too
im gonna be washed now
unironically what happened to me for a minute
finished the campaign on nightmare, then played tag 1 on UV because I was scared of the difficulty spike
then played urdak on nightmare and got my ass kicked because I wasn't used to aggressive demons anymore
yeah lol
Im confident its gonna be fine though
I mean, I beat everything on nightmare already
now I kinda dont know what to do. Can't wait to grind the 6 online achievements though!
Is this game hard to 100%?
Wanna do them sometime? I need 5 more of the online achievements
not really
Im not even sure if theres any achievement for beating nightmare
Isn’t there one or two for beating the DLC’s on ultra nightmare
nope
extra life mode there is
isnt there a photomode??
Interesting
And not sure? I only have 3-4 hours in the game
I’ve only played the multiplayer
ohhh
ive never played it, I have 75 hours rn and I did most of the achievements pretty easily
Only if you consider grinding battlemode to be hard
Judt the single player part
Is there any super hard or time consuming things?
@formal glen added you on discord if you wanna grind out those MP achievements sometime!
battlemode is time consuming
nope
hi guys
what's that symbol in your pfp?
I love em
Cacos are funny lil meatballs
Pain elementals on the other hand are detestable
fr
that channel is private
you usually need a special role or something to get in them
yes
what channel is it?
you can hide the channel, but you'd have to be the server owner to make it public
ah
np
there should be a browse channels option at the very top of the channel list, if you dont wanna see that channel you should be able to unfollow it and you'll never see it again (unless you refollow it) if you wanna talk in there, i'm sure spicy demons has a switch lfg role
idk for sure tho, i'm not in spicy demons
I just realised that whiplash is a female demon
just now?
Ha ha
i think there's another one too
like the summoner from doom 2016
has to be in glory kill state first
archvile is also female
it's got a special animation
false
but reddit has never lied to me before
I think they've lied to you
Fr
the truth child's girlfriend got her and him kicked iirc
You mean that one girl asking for lore?

