doom-eternal

[twin gale]

and 14 aint enough

[hard relic]

ye i feel that

had to unbind freeze and mod button

[placid pumice]

It has.. hit.. the weekend

I mean my kind of weekend

So.. there’s one mission for me to do

And that.. is.. enjoy.. ancient gods

[twin gale]

you didnt before?

[worn terrace]

Arc Complex is todays level

Anyone ever win the Hell Gate Door Lithograph?

[placid pumice]

I did

Let me rephrase

Enjoy.. the rest of it

And enjoy it.. much.. much.. much more

[gray rivet]

Are you playing on nightmare? If I may ask

[worn terrace]

I beat the game on Ultra night mare.... but no

[robust nacelle]

@dusky estuary good luck

[worn terrace]

UV, because im out of practice

and its kicking my butt

i am also using mods that I normally dont use such as micro missles.

removing weakpoints withouth the scope is much harder

[robust nacelle]

ggs bonjovi

[gray rivet]

Nah yea I feel that

Hope you had fun, arc complex is one of my favorite levels

That freakin restaurant tho 😭

[polar osprey]

oh god im gonna have to do that on kaisercampaign

[gray rivet]

Fuckin rip

[austere bronze]

what the heck did i do to deserve 2 possessed marauders😭
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021939526739951638/1367244554763501709/Untitled_video.mp4?ex=6813e138&is=68128fb8&hm=ac2da4c3c5a20a867281e0c2d42d494e356a8ce8f27cebe629cbb113e12b41b2&

[jolly kernel]

so everytime I see posts about comparisons between the designs of Doom 2016 and Eternal demons, people tend to say 2016's demons are higher quality/more detailed

is that actually true, or is it an art style/lighting thing?

[polar osprey]

most definitely only due to 2016's style being dark and gritty

[polar osprey]

style/lighting thing, most likely

eternal was more colorful, u were rarely in dark places or places where it was hard to see

meanwhile in 2016 thas just not the case sometimes

[burnt moss]

Judge: Sightless
Also Judge: has twice the normal amount of eyes

[candid juniper]

I think the model viewer’s lighting in eternal doesn’t do the demons any justice

They look a lot better in game

Now some of the designs are still better in 2016 regardless, but that’s down to art direction more so than graphical fidelity

[graceful current]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/642730879852085281/1367247290124730438/0ygBCDv.png?ex=6813e3c4&is=68129244&hm=499a3669fcec15bc1b825b193a8104a45b5cfc81248f5dfd5b9b0c66b966853d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=295&height=355

they should've referenced this with Kalibas' eyes

[graceful current]

i don't think that's true at all lol

they have pretty different art directions tho

[polar osprey]

people say that due to the art direction

eternal was arcadey, 2016 was dark and gritty

and people usually see more shadowy stuff as more detail

[graceful current]

i do prefer a lot of the 2016 designs admittedly

i dont like how eternal/TDA gave the Hell Knights eyes again :/

[candid juniper]

Yeah that was weird

[graceful current]

i like the 2016 possessed more than the Eternal possessed but i also like the soldiers looking more unique in Eternal than 2016 but you can't exactly have both together soooooo :/

[kind basin]

I mean I prefer tda hellknight because of its armored designed, the eyes are much better proportioned compared to eternal's hellknights bulging eyes

Up to preference tho

[graceful current]

yeah thats fair

[real holly]

Mmmmm maybe some Possesed Archvilles to make it somewhat challenging

[azure oriole]

wish possessed archviles were real

[austere bronze]

uhm... no.

pure luck that i got past that lmao

[twin gale]

exist

[placid pumice]

Yall

Does activating cheat codes disable trophies?

I just finished the ancient gods 1 and just wow

Samur in the holt was pretty hard even on the easiest difficulty

[candid juniper]

Welp seems like my game is bugged

Deag Nilox codex won’t unlock despite me picking it up

[azure oriole]

i wish I had the luck to falter a possessed marauder with a ballista shot so I can do the lob thingy

The majority of the time he just ignores it

[candid root]

What sick monster made an achievement to get 200 player kills in battle mode

[azure oriole]

its easy to get

I did it in one night

[elder bridge]

anyone need the Battlemode Achievements???

[elder bridge]

eee

[azure oriole]

sans

[elder bridge]

wait is boosting bannable here?

dont see mentions of it in rules...

[azure oriole]

It isnt

[real holly]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/585809871891333132/1367349481317863434/OMMMGGGGGG.jpg?ex=681442f0&is=6812f170&hm=85e18c0c026caebaccf1c91ecdd1a9a2f97b4435903ec56a6d3aa6d670ee9791&=&format=webp&width=1535&height=864 @austere bronze jesus h christ this was truly a nightmare

Samur had me changing runes mid fight, using all my bfg ammo

fuck The Holt genuienly

[queen mauve]

He i need some battle mode achievements

Hey*

[ornate ledge]

😂 😂 😂

[austere bronze]

ey, that's some good stuff man

[azure oriole]

Can someone help me with the last battle mode mile stone, should only take max 20 minutes?

[flint warren]

ay

is there a point to micro missiles?

[azure oriole]

They exist, and are good at melting one boss.

[flint warren]

which one

[azure oriole]

Karna maker

[alpine mortar]

Hell nah

This guy again

[austere bronze]

kinda, kinda not
you can swap to them and use them for double dblade, but there are other ways to do that, and they're good against possessed hell knights

i use them for fun a bit, and because i always got extra heavy cannon ammo, so i may as well use it up

[flint warren]

maybe barons too then? Also about db can you do something like PB>Ballista shot>DB? like SLOB I mean

I vaguely remember seeing it once and never finding it again

[austere bronze]

you can do fast destroyer blade, which would be kinda similar to SLOB, but the setup is much harder

not that hard though, the hard part is efficiently using it in combat

[flint warren]

yeah I wanted to know the setup 👶

[austere bronze]

okay
do you know what mod swap cancel, silent mod swap, and silent BATS is?

[flint warren]

mod swap cancel:👍
but only it

[austere bronze]

silent mod swapping (SMS) is the same, but you press mod swap after switching weapon, so, fire -> swap -> mod swap button
if done correctly, the first weapon will change mod, but you won't see any animation for it

silent BATS is just combining the 2, so, fire -> mod swap button -> switch weapon -> mod swap button
this allows you to both swap the mod in the first weapon and cancel bring-down animations (you can also use it to wack swap due to the MSC)

performing any of these 3 things will put you in a combo swap chain (CSC). you know you're in a CSC if you can't see your hand and if the plasma rifle/chaingun fires blanks. you break the chain by being in 1 weapon for too long (except if you're firing a fast firing weapon), mantling, mod swapping, or meathooking.

while in a CSC you just wanna hit an enemy directly with a sticky bomb, rocket, or arbalest while charging the arbalest. now you can swap to dblade any way and you got fblade. it's lost by charging the dblade or the arbalest.

however, there are a few more caveats. being in a CSC will delay alt fire, except if you swap to the heavy cannon at any point during the chain, so you have to do that before charging the arbalest for fblade. you also can't hold down alt fire while swapping from the arbalest and you should hold down alt fire while swapping into it.

[flint warren]

thanks but it sounds way too complicated for way too little impact

[austere bronze]

regarding silent BATS, if the weapon mod you originally had equipped in the first weapon and the mod in the second weapon occupy the same spot in the dossier (up/fown), you will do a manual mod swap in the second weapon. you can avoid it by swapping away fast enough

[austere bronze]

yeah it's a bit complex, but once you got it down it's really neat

even if you don't wanna use fblade though, i'd strongly recommend to integrate SMS and silent BATS

[azure oriole]

I still need help btw.

[azure oriole]

I'm going to go fucking insane!!!! Fuck this milestone, I'ma break Hugo's window... And then, break it again, and take all his cookies.

[gray rivet]

Yeaa big rip

[warped sage]

As someone who defeated the Marauder second try, I still don’t get all the fuss towards this guy.

[real holly]

I beat him on my first try 😭

[warped sage]

To me, he’s just another piece of cake with the ballista and SSG.

[azure oriole]

Same fr fr.

[real holly]

It's just whiplash to newer players

That are unwilling to learn and improve

[warped sage]

I restarted (not dead) because I wasn’t getting the momentum yet.

[real holly]

Like I'll give you disliking a marauder when his shield is acting up with enemy projectiles but in the first arena????

Hell even in Taras Nabad where he returns the enemy projectiles barely activate his shield

[azure oriole]

Master level poision Marauder as well.

[real holly]

I find it funny they doubled down on Marauders in tag 1 literally by forcing you to fight two and a buff one then one and a Tyrant

The Holt Tyrant and Marauder combo is easy bc you can just focus fire the Tyrant and the Marauder will barely be able to stop you

[real holly]

Marauders at their worst are when there's heaps of enemies and their shield/dog keeps getting activated for some fucking reason

Mars Core ML before you get launched in a cannon or Taras Nabad ML

[azure oriole]

Don't remind me, you mother... Ahhh!!!!

I'm trying to repress those memories.

[austere bronze]

there isn't really a lot of fuss

there's more people saying "i don't understand all the people who say the marauder is hard" than people who say "i think the marauder is hard"

[alpine mortar]

11 Days 9 hours 57 minutes 59 seconds 🫩 @azure oriole

[azure oriole]

Thats how long until dark ages?

What? I'm confusion?

[real holly]

There used to be a lot of fuss

[alpine mortar]

Yes

[real holly]

Nowadays people either already learnt, didn't learn and gave up or are learning how to deal with him

[alpine mortar]

Maligog are you happy about doom the dark ages?

[real holly]

Yeah cause them assholes leave me alone in the blood Swamps so I can nap

[alpine mortar]

Doesn't it stink there ?

[polar osprey]

tbf maligog's titanic shits are probably why its called the blood swamps

[alpine mortar]

I don't even know how to answer

That is vile but somehow funny at the same time

[young mango]

The introduction to him used to use mechazombies so those earlier complaints were probably bolstered by him having enemies that trigger his shield and by extension his wolf on his very first encounter

which by the way is an unintended mechanic so it wasn’t the best way to introduce him, however it was left in on purpose as opposed to being patched out for whatever reason

[elder bridge]

@queen mauve yo

Thinking of making a little group chat or something to finish battle mode achievements

Just tag me if you wanna do the battle mode achievements

[alpine mortar]

@elder bridge there is already a chat made for battle mode if you need teammates

[elder bridge]

Im on pc btw

[elder bridge]

Oh oops

[alpine mortar]

It's okay there's a ps5 group Xbox group and pc

Text there and someone will probably answer you

[elder bridge]

Lemme try to find it

[alpine mortar]

The group is called battle mode

[elder bridge]

@alpine mortar apparently boosting is illegal in that server

[alpine mortar]

What

[elder bridge]

Yeah

[alpine mortar]

Oh

Well ummmm I don't have any other solution

[real holly]

Hey now don't expose me like that

[alpine mortar]

Maligog stop being so stinky and clean up after yourself the whole blood swamp is full of flies

Tf you eat taco bell ?

[real holly]

Bro its been billions of years the knights that came here didn't die due to demons they died due to the smell

[alpine mortar]

Dear god pour souls

I get it why the rubix cube eye is red. It's because of pink eye and it's your fault

Smelly ass

[real holly]

True

[alpine mortar]

Go back to sleep and don't shit yourself

[wanton glacier]

is the acient gods part 1 dlc good?

does it live up to doom eternals standards in terms of fun

[polar osprey]

its more difficult

most difficult campaign afaik

[wanton glacier]

ye i can deal with that hopefully

but is it acctually good?

[polar osprey]

yeah its alright

people undermine it and tag 2 too much

[austere bronze]

it's more difficult, continues the excellent arena design and adds new enemies that are great

[wanton glacier]

alright thx

[warped sage]

I am struggling with The Dark Lord to this day but I’m somehow able to beat Samur Maykr.

TAG1 was all-in difficult, but TAG2 seems to save them for the final boss.

If I remember well, the latter’s campaign felt like a walk in the park until The Dark Lord, unlike TAG1. On HMP at least.

[glass sorrel]

Finished dlc 1 of eternal and I had really enjoyed my time with it

[elder bridge]

Well, if anyones on PC and need achievements, hit me up for BATTLEMODE

[gray rivet]

UAC atlantica is my favorite level from both DLCs

[dreamy nymph]

I JUST BEAT DARK LORD

FUCK YOU

HELP MEEEE

(it took 37 minutes)

and also he kept cheating when he was so close to death

[alpine mortar]

What difficulty

[dreamy nymph]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN IF I USE HAMMER TOO CLOSE YOU HEAL

[dreamy nymph]

im too young to die 😭

[alpine mortar]

Because he's not doing the green light and it counts as damage that he can block and use for health

[dreamy nymph]

I was killing his spawns tho

he was too close

[alpine mortar]

No you know what congratulations I don't care if you did it on the easiest mode still congrats I know you'll get better

Never give up @dreamy nymph

[elder bridge]

@dreamy nymphWhat difficulty

[dreamy nymph]

⭐

[dreamy nymph]

I just said

[elder bridge]

oh

OH
damn....

[alpine mortar]

Tiger

That profile pic looks so edible

[alpine mortar]

Now try un mode

[dreamy nymph]

buh

[alpine mortar]

buh

[austere bronze]

un sucks

[alpine mortar]

I know I know

[elder bridge]

breedable

[alpine mortar]

Excuse me what

[elder bridge]

@alpine mortaryours fr

[alpine mortar]

I thought you meant your profile pic

[elder bridge]

well i did at first but...

tables turned

[alpine mortar]

OH HELL NAH

[burnt moss]

UNnecessary

[alpine mortar]

You can't UNfuck the surface of mars

[austere bronze]

loll

[alpine mortar]

But why tho

[gray rivet]

AnomeQ suggested there should just be a "permadeath" toggle for each difficulty

Then we could have actual Ultra nightmare difficulty

[austere bronze]

ultra ultra violence

[elder bridge]

theres no vc in this ???

[hard relic]

@austere bronze how long did it take you to get this good?

[austere bronze]

i currently have like 1170 hours on the game

[hard relic]

i mean like there has to be a point where you reached your skill ceiling right?

[austere bronze]

yeah, but i'm not there at least

[azure oriole]

Someone please, help me...

This shit is so ass, just had a team mate who did 60 damage. I can't do it with these randoms no more lmao

Still won.

[alpine mortar]

Frog you have 3 options do the milestone with randoms do a private match or just kys

[azure oriole]

Well yeah, that's why I'm asking for help, need 2 more people for a private

[alpine mortar]

Somehow nobody's online when you need help 🥲

[azure oriole]

Everyone who was online got the plat and left me behind

[gray rivet]

Lol 😭

[azure oriole]

"we'll do the milestone you have left after the 200 kills" they said.

I might never play dark ages out of my hated for ID software for adding a milestone that has nothing to do with your skill, and is 100% on your team mate skills. Pretty much all luck.

I've called it a day for now, I just almost crashed out at my team mate for doing 200 damge through the entire game, and I still won.

[azure oriole]

I was never able to complete the "that escalated quickly" milestone and I'm still salty over that shit

Who thought that would be a good idea

[azure oriole]

If your on ps we can get it together, already got mog the milestone

Me xbox

Sad...

I feel like it's so easy, you just need someone who can clutch up.

[young mango]

Because it’s pretty much impossible outside of private matches

[azure oriole]

Ima throw myself at a master level until someone helps me.

[young mango]

Do world spear

[azure oriole]

Any bets on how many times I beat it? Also no ima do gore nest as it's my favorite

[young mango]

World spear in specific? No idea

[azure oriole]

I'm destressing, not restressing lmao

[young mango]

I’ve beaten TAG2 probably over 100 times tho

Not being hyperbolic either

[alpine mortar]

Play world spear until you achieve god level and destroy ID HQ

Those motherfuckers got me emailing their ass for a stupid podium

[azure oriole]

My achievements aren't even glitched...

[alpine mortar]

How do you know they ain't glitched

[fringe torrent]

Why are you emailing them for a podium, that's a bit strange

[alpine mortar]

I got every single milestone but it didn't give me the milestone Argentas paladi

[azure oriole]

Because its 79 out of 80 and I have 1 left...

[alpine mortar]

So I had to email them to get the rewards

[azure oriole]

I hope it's not glitched.

[alpine mortar]

Lucky

[dusky estuary]

?

oh my lord im so sorry

i mightve called you mean names

i was impatient yesterday cuz i hadnt had a cigarette in a while and battlemode pisses me off

i just want the plat trophy bro 💔

[candid juniper]

Finally found keybinds that work for me

Might be able to get quick swapping down now

[alpine mortar]

Get back to grinding

[dusky estuary]

no i say mean things when i play battlemode

god i hate archville players

that wall is stupidly big and it pisses me the fuck off

[alpine mortar]

Try fighting against a dread knight who's only goal is to expand your hole and make you lose every game

[twin gale]

"only goal is to expand your hole"💀

[cursive rover]

Hi guys I have Doom eternal free on ps5 as part of my subscription right near the end so thought I'd download ancient gods. It's showing as free for me but when I press it it just says error has occurred. Year pass says unavailable and tried each part of ancient gods all say same thing. Any ideas ?

[alpine mortar]

Aiden you can't even comprehend how many times I got brutally touched by a dread knight or mancubi behind a Walmart

So many times even EDP 445 would get jealous

[twin gale]

mancubi dont like to touch

if you get too close they just slam the ground and it magically harms you

[young mango]

I hope graduating 8th grade goes well🔥🔥

[twin gale]

i didnt even go to my 8th grade gradutaion

[young mango]

curious

[twin gale]

such a lame event

[alpine mortar]

I don't even know what 8th grade is

[twin gale]

bluds a european💀

[young mango]

Europeans can still count

[alpine mortar]

Aiden the next person I'm touching is you

No excuse just me and you

[twin gale]

good luck touching me from fuckin romania or wherever you're at

[alpine mortar]

Italy

Now send me them mancubi feet pics in DMS

[candid juniper]

[alpine mortar]

No spencer don't look at me like that we both know you want those pics too

And why do you have my goat Dante Alighieri as your profile pic

[candid juniper]

Because I’m reading Purgatorio rn

[alpine mortar]

I prefer Paradiso as It shows every planet and such

Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita mi ritrovai per una selva oscura che la dritta via fu smarrita

[woven moth]

Damnation ❌
Doomnation ✅

[pallid adder]

Doom Eternal's sound design with just the controller is awesome

[queen mauve]

Can someone help me with the battle mode achievements?

[pallid adder]

with the PS5 version being more awesome with how it uses the DualSense Adaptive Triggers in a subtly noticeable way that I don't even consciously thinking about but can feel on my controller

[placid pumice]

I’ll try to help you tmw since it’s too late now

[queen mauve]

Thank you so much

[placid pumice]

No worries

[sage axle]

I got a few questions about grenades is anyone well versed on them?

[young mango]

What’re the questions

[sage axle]

1. Do they do full damage regardless of range
2. Do they do more than close range ssg
3. Is it ideal to use both of them simultaneously
4. Are the scatter bombs useful at all

[young mango]

1. Off memory, fairly sure there’s some sort of damage fall off, although not overly detrimental if there is one, maybe losing about 30% of the damage at worst
2. No, they don’t, a standalone frag grenade does 720 damage, with scatter bombs, 1140 iirc
3. It’s situational, not exactly optimal, but if you’re able to expend your equipment like that, then sure
4. The usage is kind of niche and depends on a tougher enemy having fodder near them and is kind of a bonus as opposed to a consistent boost ( or just used to have a slightly larger radius on killing a crowd of fodder )

[sage axle]

Thank you

[twin gale]

frag grenades are mostly useful for faltering because its a guaranteed falter on all demons who can tank it unless they're possessed

[sage axle]

Just one more, is the fuse based on time after firing or after hitting a surface?

[young mango]

Hitting a surface iirc

[sage axle]

Thanks

I’ve had my equipment launcher permanently set to ice bomb for a while now, but I’ve been using nades recently and they are quite helpful

[noble ocean]

The DLC was fun (both of them) but the Blood Swamp was like going through the SpongeBob Perfume Department and that Holt Slayer gate was the toughest thing in the entire experience.

I also think it's funny that Satan and God are one and the same in this universe. Isn't that almost Gnosticism though?

[azure oriole]

dunno lore sucks

[noble ocean]

I also had a funny thought of Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal being cyclical. Doom 2016 starts with coming out of the box and Doom Eternal ends with being put into the box.

[rigid storm]

"He who couldn't reach for the grapes says they taste sour"

[azure oriole]

Proof??

[nimble marten]

LETS FUCKING GOOOO
I BEAT TAG 2

IN ONE SITTING

[azure oriole]

Kinda, though I think gnoticism is the idea that our creator, while benevolent, is either flawed or somewhat distant

[twin gale]

i never thought of it like that but that is very true

[noble ocean]

Same. TAG 1 took two, though, because of that stupid Holt Slayer Gate.

[nimble marten]

oh right
that abomination exists
yeah idt im ever gonna be able to 100% TAG1 cause i simply refuse to deal with multiple archviles at once

[azure oriole]

It used to be three archviles on the slayer gate

[noble ocean]

There's also a possessed Maraurder too.

[azure oriole]

Shame they changed it

[nimble marten]

possessed marauder genuinely feels less threatening :(

[twin gale]

theres still 3 arch viles in 1 arena in the super gore nest master level

[azure oriole]

And they used to be more spread out

[twin gale]

i think they would be harder to deal with in that one because that arena is so gigantic

[azure oriole]

At least on release

[twin gale]

and you're constantly getting shot at by buffed demons while looking for them

[azure oriole]

Now you can easily deal with them with double db

[graceful current]

what did you think

[nimble marten]

really fucking good n fun

and i saw myself VASTLY improving at quick combos and longer combos with hammer

also honestly enjoyed Dark Lord being basically a super marauder that heals from you
makes sense since marauders are corrupted sentinels and davoth is, by being basically the source of the Slayer's(who was trained like the sentinels) power, THE Marauder

[young mango]

A dumb thing about davoth is that if you manage to hit him outside of his greenlight attack he’ll heal from getting hit

When I played TAG2 at launch I thought it was a bug and waited for them to patch it but that day never came

boss fight design that actually discourages thinking outside of the box

davoth is fun if you get really good RNG

but sometimes he pmo

[azure oriole]

I like those 5 second periods where they have you awkwardly deal damage while you're both just standing there while nothing happens

[rose sparrow]

What’s a good way to be able to hit prestige?

Because I’ve been grinding the dark lord, and he’s just not fast enough

[azure oriole]

I'm gonna be real with you Justin grinding that is not worth it at all

[rose sparrow]

Well, I just wanna hit prestige

[azure oriole]

just modify your profile.bin

[young mango]

Maxed out prestige is nearly impossible to get vanilla

1 level played = 1 level of exp, assuming that a player somehow only takes 5 minutes per a level, not including load screens or menus or whatever, that’d be 1020 hours of grinding

[azure oriole]

I think zanarathaz did it

[rose sparrow]

That’s it?

[young mango]

I mean I did say nearly, MMAFRO has max prestige and he’s a console player

[azure oriole]

by pure grinding sentinel prime

holy shit

[young mango]

You say that’s it as if I didn’t list a very generous hypothetical

[rose sparrow]

Well, I mean that’s pretty easy if you use cheats

[young mango]

how much easier

[azure oriole]

wrong

[young mango]

at what point does playing the dark lord for the 6000th time stop being fun

[azure oriole]

You can fuck up your save if you dont do it correctly

[young mango]

it’s totally infeasible to go about it like that

are you even playing for doom eternal at that point or does this basically just become a clicker game with a lot of extra steps

[rose sparrow]

I’m talking about the In Game cheats

[azure oriole]

Even with quad damage and infinite bfg it still a pain

The dark lord

[rose sparrow]

Well, you don’t have to use the BFG the super shotgun is also good

[azure oriole]

Yeah but its going to take a while

[young mango]

Even then sometimes you profile bin can one day just go “nah I’ve had enough” and corrupt or whatever

[azure oriole]

That happened to me when I was on the bethesda launcher version

[young mango]

from what I know it’s more common the earlier your version is

[azure oriole]

I had like two or three “common” stars but all the milestones

The milestones loss was what hurt the most

Battlemode milestones are aids

[young mango]

I’ve reset my shit so many times I wonder what my prestige would be if I never reset my profile bin or ever had it corrupted or had my prestige reset because prestige didn’t exist on 1.0

[nimble marten]

what does prestige get you? :0

[young mango]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-nothing-magic-conch-magic-concha-gif-5340147

[nimble marten]

ah
lovely

[rose sparrow]

I am still gonna go for it

[azure oriole]

shiny looking stars under your username

[young mango]

I’m not going to police what people do with their free time, I’ve already voiced my two cents on the kind of up hill battle that doing that is

good luck man

[nimble marten]

good luck hitting level 250 5 times ig

[young mango]

5 times lol

48 times

[nimble marten]

honestly
i can't see me hitting it ONE time

48??????

[rose sparrow]

I’m not going for the red stars. I’m just going for the normal ones.

[young mango]

Prestige didn’t exist on launch, it was added in 1.1, considering eternals patches have a habit of being affected via community backlash I wouldn’t be surprised if such an absurd system was added as a comedic overcompensation towards a complaint about reaching max level being too easy

[nimble marten]

pfftt

[rose sparrow]

Well, all I have is do eternal for now. I don’t have enough money for dark age so I’m going to grind do eternal until I get dark age

[austere bronze]

grind something fun lol

like master levels to get better or something

[rose sparrow]

No

[nimble marten]

grind other games alongside so you have some variety maybe

[austere bronze]

why not xd

[rose sparrow]

Cause I have fun either way it will get repetitive, but it doesn’t matter

[nocturne totem]

what if that cthulu looking guy from TDA is the mysterious voice?

[alpine mortar]

What mysterious voice ?

And I still don't understand why they added cthulu like yes it's cool af but why tho

[nocturne totem]

the one that yelled "NOOO!" after the slayer killed the khan maykr

[alpine mortar]

That's the dark lord

Not cthulu

[alpine mortar]

Because davoth created the maykr species and he was obviously upset that his species was set to die because of the slayer killing the khan maykr

[graceful current]

❌

Hugo said it wasn't and the subtitle was specifically changed from Dark Lord back to Mysterious Voice

[graceful current]

Didn't Davoth literally orchestrate the death of the Maykrs via the Slayer lol

[alpine mortar]

Maybe dunno but I think he was still kinda pissed off that the slayer killed the khan maykr

And I don't think cthulu can even talk or can he ?

[graceful current]

why

[alpine mortar]

Dunno

Or maybe it was Vega as the father ?

This lore is way too fucking complicated

[graceful current]

it wouldnt be a mysterious voice if it was vega

[alpine mortar]

Then we will never know

@azure oriole how was the slayers armour made

[azure oriole]

We don't know.

[alpine mortar]

Oh

[azure oriole]

Ask the cosplayers.

[dim sluice]

I have a question that's been on my mind a long time ago. What are those glowing blue coins that the slayer uses to kill the priests?

Where did he get them?

[alpine mortar]

@azure oriole

[dreamy nymph]

he got the one for Deag Grav from the Gladiator iirc

[glass sorrel]

Marauders is the worst enemy ever in games history

[austere bronze]

why?

[glass sorrel]

And his little stupid dog

[glass sorrel]

He’s not tough he’s just annoying and takes 3 minutes to kill

[austere bronze]

he doesn't though

he wants you to maximize dps, and by doing so you can kill him quite fast

[azure oriole]

Skill issue

Just shoot him.

[glass sorrel]

When I encounter him I know for sure that the developers want to increase the time I put into the game

[austere bronze]

you can also bait out his attacks, or bypass his shield (slightly more unintended)

[azure oriole]

Or shoot lock on rockets to make him look away, letting you sneak in a hit, kinda like the old ice bomb strat

[austere bronze]

that's one of the ways to bypass yeah

and you even daze him by doing that

if you do it well enough you also get all the damage from the rockets!

[azure oriole]

Btw, I go into master levels with 0 bfg ammo, if I go into campaign and grab some will I start with full?

[glass sorrel]

I have around 22 hours in the game and still seeing him makes me wanna stop the game and do something else

[azure oriole]

If so I have a free bfg shot to deal with the one room that isn't recommended to use a bfg shot in that I don't like.

[azure oriole]

Bro... 22 hours?

[glass sorrel]

Not many hours I’m aware of that

[azure oriole]

Yeah no shit you find the noob stomper enemy annoying, you don't know how to deal with him.

Well you do, but not all the best ways.

Look up some kill strategy videos, there are a lot of ways to not just kill his ass, but to style on him and his entire blood line

[austere bronze]

hours don't play that big of a role on whether you like the marauder or not

and 22 hours is much more than many people ever get on the game lol

[azure oriole]

It does play a role in how much you know about the game up to a certain point.

No one masters something in 22 hours.

[austere bronze]

that is true, but many people like him immediately

and many don't even after 1000+ hours

[azure oriole]

No, no one masters something and understands everything immediately, you can get good at something very fast.

[austere bronze]

you don't have to master killing the marauder to enjoy him

not many people can do LOB redirects, or even know about it

[azure oriole]

True I agree with that statement

[azure oriole]

I don't, and I'll defend my mans to the bitter end.

spaghetti code piece of shit ai

[austere bronze]

only real issue with him is projectiles bringing up his shield

[azure oriole]

what's the cause of the marauder not faltering after a direct shot from the ballista when you do the lob redirects?

[austere bronze]

never had that happen with a normal marauder, assuming the LOB redirect was done correctly

[azure oriole]

It happens to me with a normal marauder

I assume its normal with a possessed one

But with a normal?
idk maybe my luck is shit

[austere bronze]

i've never had it happen with a non-possessed one

possessed marauders will just ignore ballista shots sometimes though, yeah

[glass sorrel]

I do play max payne 3 a lot and I have 120 hours in the game so it feels really easy for me to do a play through on the hardest difficulty whereas others will suffer. How many hours you have in a certain game plays a major role but partially I’d say because there are many factors too

[azure oriole]

Max Payne 3 and Eternal are very different games in my experience, bit I see where you're coming from.

[glass sorrel]

I mean Max Payne 3 with more time you pour in you’ll start knowing where enemies will come from don’t know if eternal has this thing

[austere bronze]

you learn enemy spawns if you replay the same maps

you'll also learn how enemies behave, and from that you can predict things

[glass sorrel]

Did anyone tried the metal eden demo?

[azure oriole]

You can say the same about mario.

[glass sorrel]

It’s really great

[austere bronze]

you can say the same about most games with enemies lol

[glass sorrel]

The development team had definitely taken things from black ops 3

[azure oriole]

the worst thing I've done in my life was buying the doom tracer pack for cod

And the cat skin

[glass sorrel]

Doom guy in Cod?

[austere bronze]

wrong

worst thing you've ever done is play cod in the first place

[glass sorrel]

Don’t envy me but never bought anything for cod store ever

[azure oriole]

true

[glass sorrel]

I get it if the skins go to the next game but it’s not

[austere bronze]

hop on turbo overkill instead

[glass sorrel]

Is it any good?

[austere bronze]

very

[glass sorrel]

There was a discount on it on xbox store

[glass sorrel]

I heard it is from one developer

[azure oriole]

You can say the same about most games with out enemies, like I memorized where my villager houses are in animal crossing, I'm insane.

[real holly]

Urdak is such a weird level bc it feels off, like idk what it is outside of the visuals but it just feels wrong

Not even talking about the Khan Makyr fight here

It's as if the level is missing something but I can't pinpoint what it is

[odd schooner]

Urdak/Heaven is essentially a leap out of our comfort zone in Doom Eternal. We’re so used to fighting the Dark Lord’s forces in Hell and on Mars, as well as Earth, that any other theater of operations will feel “off”.

[real holly]

Could it really be the asthetics and feel are SO different it actually hurts my gameplay 😭

I think it's related to how the level is structured? Like off the top of my head I can only remember 3 mayor arenas, the rest are minor encounters or platforming/those cool dash rings

On another note I wonder which are the most ancient places you go through in Eternal

I know Hebeth and Urdak are contenders

By default The Holt

And the Blood Swamps/Immora

Blood Swamps and Hebeth seem to be in the biggest state of ancient decay

Hebeth is barely recognizable as a city and the blood Swamps speaks for itself

Oh and that city you fight the two Doom Hunter's in Doom Hunter Base

But that also could be something from Sentinel times per say, the others I mentioned existed before the Sentinels

[austere bronze]

yeah it's way too much traversal in that level imo

it's unfortunate because the arenas that are there are super cool and well made

[polar osprey]

the coins make them immortal

[real holly]

The priests death are so funny

All yap then boom dead, but the second one is easily the funniest

[polar osprey]

"please i give u power no kill me plase"

[real holly]

Folded instantly

The third one is funny in the deadpan way bc he's on some "gah it doesn't matter" right before his head disappears from his body

[polar osprey]

well, moreso the guardians of them are the bosses u kill

[real holly]

Yeah

Wonder who the guardian of the first priest was

[polar osprey]

nilox's guardian we killed before eternal, grav and ranak are the gladiator and doom hunter bosses iirc

[real holly]

Or if he had any that the Slayer killed off screen

[real holly]

Plot twist his guardian was the Titan carrying the hell barge

Bro was so tired he just gave the Slayer the coin out of spite for the priest

[polar osprey]

nah his guardian was actually one of the zombies in the very start

[real holly]

That's funny to think about

[polar osprey]

he was like "this fuckin asshole treating me like a supersized piggyback, fuck that, here's his coin, man"

[azure oriole]

So is there actually a good reason to equip the rune that makes glory kills faster?
Like is there a niche tech or situations where it can prove extremely useful but i just dont know about it

They're for people who get bored of glory kills (me)

I get tired of watching the same animations, some of them are way longer than they need to be

[austere bronze]

it's a very good rune+like Teriyaki Bone said, it's good if you get bored of GKs

[lethal ibex]

The animations are still top tier.

[austere bronze]

if you meathook into a GK without savagery, you will often not get armor, with savagery you will often get armor

[azure oriole]

Ah i quite see the picture now

[austere bronze]

doing a GK is also bad for you as enemies reposition and surround you, savagery alleviates some of this

[polar osprey]

by the time doomguy kills a tyrant, 5 demons surround him

[austere bronze]

the tyrant GK from the head is sooo slow😭

[azure oriole]

Not un-true, but at this point I feel like there's a better use for those resources. Dark ages got the right idea

[austere bronze]

and it's almost always the one you get

[azure oriole]

Also rq does grenades continue to reload during gk?

[austere bronze]

overall, savagery is a good rune, especially if you're not a high level player (which most aren't)

[austere bronze]

yes, as does the chainsaw and flame belch

[azure oriole]

Alright just making sure i wasnt seeing things

[real holly]

The past few days I've been playing with it

Can't take it off now, it's forever stuck in my runes 🙏

I didn't use it for so long bc I wanted to have more obviously functional ones like longer demon falter or equipment recharge thing but Savagery rune makes the game flow 10x better

Nowadays I don't have longer falter duration for Demons which can bite me in the ass here and there but it's not that necessary

[polar osprey]

for me binding every weapon to its own bind made the game flow feel faster aswell

[real holly]

Oh I do that as well

[real holly]

Especially with Heavy-Super Heavy Demons

[polar osprey]

punch cancelling with the pb was surprisingly easy

[real holly]

But usually I can reach them quickly once they falter and any exceptions I just kill after, or just kill them while they are in glory kill state

[polar osprey]

like i did it second try

[real holly]

Don't always have to glory kill

[austere bronze]

longer demon stagger is mostly useful for high level play where you barely glory kill, or if you struggle with good full auto setups, but that shouldn't really warrant its usage imo

[real holly]

Might as well put the Tyrant I've been circling around while doing combos out of its misery bro must be dying of shame he can't hit me

[real holly]

It's useful in that one Cacodemon phase in Samurs fight at least

[lethal ibex]

Samur's boss fight was ridiculous. Like, why tf did they have to bring in the spirits?

[austere bronze]

true, but you can also just re-stagger them

[real holly]

True

But it keeps me calmer lol

[austere bronze]

fair

[real holly]

Samurs fight ranges from simple boss that teleports around while throwing a few projectiles with some reinforcements to brutal arena

[strange gale]

the spirits are there to hide how tiny samur's moveset is

[lethal ibex]

I never said it was extremely challenging.
I just said it can be annoying.

[real holly]

(pretty much this)

[strange gale]

both dlcs were rushed out the door so they had to make up for that somewhere

[real holly]

Oh it totally is, literally beat Tag 1 on UN recently that shits ass

[real holly]

For being rushed they have some noticeable highs

I've seen many other rushed products that don't come close to the quality of tag 1 and 2

[austere bronze]

the spirits are neat

[lethal ibex]

The best thing about the DLCs imo is the hammer.
Is SO DAMN better than the crucible. (And more usable)

[real holly]

DLC fun rating
UAC Atlantica and Blood Swamps are awesome
The Holt and World Spear
Reclaimed Earth is probably the best part of tag 2
Immora is underwhelming but not outright bad
Dark Lord I love, most people don't for fair reasons

[austere bronze]

the hammer is overpowered and breaks core eternal combat concepts

[real holly]

Reclaimed Earth feels, unlike the other two tag 2 levels like a level from the main campaign

Sorta

[real holly]

"the better you get at Doom Eternal the more you dislike the Crucible, BFG and Sentinel Hammer"
-Me

[strange gale]

davoth also suffers from having a tiny moveset

there are more unused marauder attacks than what davoth has in his entire moveset

[lethal ibex]

The core concept is "rip and tear."
You charge the hammer through glory kills instead of always needing to scavenge for the points on the map.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it makes things like mauraders much easier to deal with.

[real holly]

Blood Swamps is this until the last trial bc it's so underwhelming to end such a challenging and tense level with what's basically a ballista/sniper rifle/rocket aiming tutorial while you move away from demons that can barely catch you up to you and if they do you have chainsaw ammo everywhere and all your arsenal to finish them off, not to mention knocking the cubes into the center kills all demons in the area

Blood Swamps should have ended wherever you got the last shield piece bc the trial of my goat is so underwhelming

If anything the trials should be all the demons you fought in the actual hard parts

[real holly]

A problem of the many the Hammer has is you can just glory kill two fodder demons to get hammer charge

It's too easy to recharge

Imo it should recharge differently depending on which Demon you glory kill

I think Horde mode handled it well enough, with it requiring more glory kills and weak point destructions to recharge

I think 5 if I remember correctly?

[lethal ibex]

I mean, tbf, in the main game the fodder demons are pretty much there just to farm glory kills for the blood punch.

But, I see your point.

[real holly]

The thing about talking about the Hammer is that it's very easy to accidentally fall into the pits of "you like it bc your bad" when you notice that almost every more experienced players dislikes it while newer players or "lesser" (heavy quotations here) players like it more

I don't dislike it really I find it fun

But I think it's badly made/implemented

[woven moth]

I don't like it

[lethal ibex]

No, I get it.
I mainly just use it against the mauraders in horde mode.

I don't care what people say, fighting one maurader can be a pain, but 2 is just ridiculous.

[woven moth]

Two was weirdly easy for me

Because I didn't need to focus on other demons, just one times 2

[real holly]

My first UN run was in tag 2, my second was in Tag 1 (many moments later and tbh I barely made it through the Samur fight and the arena before the Possesed Tyrant)

[woven moth]

Oofz

[lethal ibex]

Again, I'm not saying the mauraders are insanely challenging.

But fighting 2 on nightmare in horde mode is super annoying.

[real holly]

Horde mode falls off once you reach The Holt, especially on the last arena that's just absolutely bonkers

[woven moth]

Yea, especially with them dogs

[real holly]

2 Marauders are duable if it's just them and no enemies that can activate the fuckass shield and bring dogs into the mix

[woven moth]

God, I hate them dogs more than I hate fromsoftware dogs

And that's saying something

Except sif, sif good boy

[lethal ibex]

sif good boy indeed.

[woven moth]

Ye

[real holly]

Liking the Marauder is always a tough call bc i know good and well that all it takes are some fodder firing shit to break the Marauder to pieces in quality

[austere bronze]

you mention how the hammer is recharged via GKs, which i assume you mean adds to the "rip and tear". but the hammer fundamentally undermines the utility of GKs by providing excessive resources, and to make it even worse, it provides excessive amounts of ammo and armor, undermining other methods of restacking and the chainsaw.

it also eliminates any threat management by stunning everything close to you, which instead of promoting skill expression - like eternal's combat does - actively harms it.

the hammer overall will actively harm some of eternal's core pillars, and offers a universal solution instead of requiring knowledge over your entire toolkit and its application in tandem.

and making the marauder easier to deal with isn't really a plus to it

[austere bronze]

it took 4, but it's still not well implemented

[real holly]

How to deal with Marauder usually:
Wall of text

How to deal with Marauder with Hammer:
-Green eye
-shoot him
-hammer
-shoot him

[real holly]

It's less present so that helps 😭

[woven moth]

I just use the super shotgun and call it a day

[lethal ibex]

Fr. super shotgun is peak.

[woven moth]

Even though eternal says he's resistant to super weapons

[austere bronze]

depends on how it's implemented

[azure oriole]

doom is so fucking cool
I don’t like how ID treated Mick Gordon
that wasn’t so fucking cool
the rest of it was pretty cool

[lethal ibex]

Okay. I respect your argument and I don't want to get into a massive argument about it.

Can we just agree to disagree and not try to create any more drama?

[austere bronze]

i don't think respectfully exchanging opinions over a video game weapon is drama, but sure

[strange gale]

exactly, it's a "do everything" button in a landscape where super high coverage tools are understood to be uninteresting

[lethal ibex]

No, no. I understand where your coming from the hammer.

Yeah, It can be OP. I think the developers were kinda intending it to be helpful in situations where you need a second to get ahold of yourself.
(Especially on something like ultra-nightmare)

[strange gale]

counterplay isn't quite as relevant of a balancing factor in a primarily singleplayer game, but it doesn't really have any weaknesses you'd otherwise need to make up for with other tools

it doesn't do much damage or function as a movement option

but everything else is covered

[polar osprey]

i love it when doomguy hammers when davoth is staggered and it gets him real messed up

[noble ocean]

Why the hell does friendly fire summon the dog? Or does the marauder do it itself depending on distance?

[woven moth]

Distance plays a part, yea

Short is shotgun, long is axe, extra long is dog

[young mango]

It’s friendly fire

Distance night play a factor after the first summon, but from what I know he will not start summoning wolves without getting hit

And even then I’m like semi sure he’ll kinda arbitrarily summon after that, like distance won’t really play a factor

[austere bronze]

i mean, the shield any other things already fulfills this purpose

and something that's antithetical to eternal's previously established combat loop to achieve something that already exists doesn't seem that good

i can understand liking the hammer, absolutely, but it's bad game design

(it is kinda satisfying seeing and hearing all the loot drops lol)

[dusky estuary]

i use the hammer the same way i use the BFG and crucible

[alpine mortar]

So sparingly?

[dusky estuary]

when shit hits the fan and im not confident in myself THATS when i use it

[alpine mortar]

Oh

[dusky estuary]

yeah

usually i'm pretty confident in my ability to handle combat in doom eternal

but like that double marauder screecher arena in immora is a time id use the hammer

[alpine mortar]

Not until you see a big oiled up Hell baron

[dusky estuary]

barons arent even that bad

they're just bullet sponges

you can spam falter them with the chaingun and they're dead

[lethal ibex]

I mean, bullet sponges are bad.
I hate those kind of enemies.

[dusky estuary]

i meant people treat them like theyre hard to kill or they kill you instantly

but the games all about resource management and what to prioritize in an arena

barons usually dont even land a single hit on you if you stay moving while killing higher priorities

then you chaingun the fuck out of them and thats the end of the story

[lethal ibex]

I mean, the armored barons can be a pain in the ass at times.

Especially when one spawns in when there's a doom hunter or maurader.

[lethal ibex]

But, I get your point.

[austere bronze]

truee

they can just decide to not behave as an enemy sometimes or fuck you over

[polar osprey]

not enough, jarvis, send doomguy vs 31 marauders

[austere bronze]

i think i've actually never done more than 3

[azure oriole]

They are Deagic Talismans, representations of the Deag-Guardian relationship that must be broken to kill the Priests.

The Deag Priests are functionally immortal unless their Guardian is killed. The Talisman appears when that happens.

[twin gale]

there are a lot of things more difficult than 2 marauders

[austere bronze]

depends

[twin gale]

oh you mean that whole encounter

well uh

there's a little bit thats harder than thatw hole encounter

do you know what spirits are yet

nope

[vast cedar]

Tip for possessed enemies: lock on burst

[twin gale]

ill let you figure it out for yourself but when you do encoutner it imagine that but with a tyrant

[vast cedar]

Lots and lots of lock on burst

[twin gale]

it doesnt make him any harder in my opinion just wastes more ammo

the first spirit is in the blood swamps

well they expect you to go into the ancient gods having a decent understanding of the combat loop

[fringe torrent]

Well if you look at DOOM Eternal + the DLCs as one big package it's a good difficulty raise

22 levels, this one is level 14, go figure

[twin gale]

wheres the other 2 from

[fringe torrent]

2? 22 - 14 is 8

[twin gale]

theres only 20 levels in the game thoug

[fringe torrent]

No..

Wait actually maybe

Hold on let me check

You were right all along

You have my honor monke man

Assuming you're the same Aidenc as the one with the monkey pfp

[burnt moss]

Doomy Turtle

🐢

[wraith scarab]

Is there any way to skip the animation when using sentinel batteries in the Fortress of Doom?

[azure oriole]

Hahahahhaab

Hahahahhahahaha funny.

No.

[woven moth]

Gobs

[twin gale]

its like 7 seconds bro just have patience

[wraith scarab]

7 seconds across 21 individual animations across multiple playthroughs adds up 😭

Does the balloon easter egg on Super Gore Nest not work on UN?

they're not popping and I'm sure I've met all the threshholds... All 3 keys inserted etc...

[young mango]

I think it was something that only works on older patches

[wraith scarab]

Just got it to work by reloading with alt+f4 nvm

I've seen other people have this issue where the balloons will show up but they won't pop. Is it known why this happens?

[azure oriole]

Is anyone online on ps4 or 5 right now?

https://youtu.be/TE0IGPDaOaU?si=RV9XFPM5uuWAg2ZT

DOOM Eternal brainrot is real

[wraith scarab]

How do people pull off 2 consecutive LOBs so quickly? I see it used by every veteran Eternal player but when I try it, my second LOB is slightly slower to come than what I've seen. There must be a trick to it but I can't find anyone actually explaining it

[austere bronze]

there is, it's called SLOB (sylar lock-on burst)

[wraith scarab]

And I mean 2 LOBs on the same target ofc. I'm not asking about the mastery ability

[austere bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_k7ZgLTXXw

[wraith scarab]

this must be the keyword I was missing when researching thanks

[austere bronze]

here's how to pull it off

[wraith scarab]

Do you know if it's possible to pull off a slob on a Marauder without using the ice bomb trick

?*

[austere bronze]

yes, just daze him with the pb and throw a frag

[young mango]

Ice bomb trick? That hasn’t worked since 1.1

[austere bronze]

or use the heavy cannon base fire to iniate the SLOB and daze the marauder with the first rocket

[wraith scarab]

oh idk I'd never even attempted it

[tawdry prawn]

Unicorn power am I right

[austere bronze]

doesn't require any grenades, but it's harder

something much more fun is doing LOB redirects though

completely bypasses his shield

[wraith scarab]

I assume that's just arcing your rockets around the shield. what's the best way to do that?

[austere bronze]

yeah, you want it to look something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmAT3aAONIA

you just lock-on, look away, fire, mod swap cancel into the ballista

[wraith scarab]

looks easy enough lol

[austere bronze]

heavy cannon works too, but then you'll have a delay on the pb, and the ssg isn't a consistent falter from all distances

[tawdry prawn]

https://youtu.be/a1x1OffTwmE?si=-zZrWjScRj-qeA8k

[azure oriole]

Yo I saw that video 2 seconds ago lmao.

Bro can't play animal crossing, it's not fast like doom.

[arctic cobalt]

whatsup everyone ,Im trying to play Eternal but im getting a black screen after the intros play

menu music plays but im getting a black screen

[azure oriole]

Ps5?

Pc?

Xbox?

Have you tried contacting support?

https://help.bethesda.net

[arctic cobalt]

pc

[azure oriole]

Then that's a hard question to answer, I reccomed you go to a pc nerd server intead of a doom server.

It's probably something to do with a clash between the hardware and software, but also I don't know jack shit about PC problems like this.

[pseudo relic]

Pc can be a nightmare to fix sometimes. My guess is it has something to do with your gpu or drivers

[candid juniper]

Still not good yet but learning quickswitch combos is pretty fun honestly

[azure oriole]

My favorite is chaingun, into chaingun, into chaingun, into Mobile turret.

[candid juniper]

Peak combo fr

Poor chaingun man

Barely any reason to use it

[azure oriole]

I say there is one big reason that makes it one of the best guns in the game.

[dusky estuary]

falter

[azure oriole]

Full 360⁰ invincibility, movement tech, and a glitch that does like 20k damage in one shield bash.

Don't forget it's good for blood punch spam.

Just sit in a pile of armor and health with the shield up and go to town

[candid juniper]

Chaingun is satisfying to use so I might try that sometime

Personally I like the sound and visuals of the chaingun more in Eternal compared to 2016

[azure oriole]

you would have loved the sound the chaingun made after update 4.0

[lethal ibex]

The 4 barrels on the turret attachment in eternal definitely make it look more intimidating

[lost cove]

i just started this game

[wraith scarab]

I've never heard of that gltich, how does it happen?

[young mango]

Isn’t that when it would keep making noise even if everything was set to 0 except for master volume

[azure oriole]

I remember the chaingun start up sound being way louder than it needed to be for a bit

pew

[placid pumice]

I finally 100% both

Did you beat me or did I beat you?

[azure oriole]

Now do UN 100% run

[gray rivet]

Anyone think taking a break from eternal can improve gameplay?

[placid pumice]

No way

I just wanted to 100% trophies

[placid pumice]

I’d say take a step back and revise yourself and gameplay.. see how you move and all.. I’m guessing you’re tryna get better for the hard difficulty walkthroughs so try to revise your movement and the spawns of the demons and which weapon you can switch with which to ensure that you can wipe the area out in the quickest effortless time possible

[twin gale]

i took a small break and my skill sharply declined

ive gotten most of it back by doing tag2 nightmare again though

[pearl valley]

Overnight yes, over a week no

What do you guys think of Shadow Warrior 3? I'm considering buying and playing before TDA

[azure oriole]

idk….

[young mango]

Sometimes you need time to drop stuff and pick it back up

Like if you’re hitting a wall, a nice break will serve you good you can de-rust and more in like 3ish hours worst case scenario

[real holly]

Beat Taras Nabad Master Level on Nightmare with a lot of deaths

Each death was in either the room where the red coin is in or the one with Archvilles behind a wall

Need a strat for those two areas specifically

Also did classic mode on I'm too young to die bc I'm not doing classic mode on anything but I'm too young to die I just want to get the "challenge" done, not struggle with a shotgun and heavy cannon while trying to kill super heavy Demons

[hidden parrot]

You know, I heard so much about how hard and awful Marauders are, how they're annoying to fight and all that.

I don't know if it's because I watched a speedrun and took the shotgun/ballistae part from the rotation, but I don't find them difficult at all

I have a harder time fighting Mancubus, Cyber M, and honestly even Hell Knights

[candid juniper]

Marauders are easy when you focus on them but can be a bit annoying if they get lost in the crowd of demons and you can’t really single them out

At least this is my experience of them as a relatively casual player

[hidden parrot]

Ah, that may be why then, I just ignore them until I clear out the rest of the heavies and most of the lights

I did play on Hurt Me Plenty so that may not be the case for harder modes, but that's how I dealt with them at least

[candid juniper]

Just ignoring them until the end is what I try to do yeah

Playing on UV myself

Will say I still think Mancubi and Cyber-Mancubi are easier to deal with than Marauders though

Double SSG combo just annihilates them

[hidden parrot]

I'm currently doing TOG1 on UV and then if that goes well I'll do TOG2 on Nightmare, then try my hand at Ultra Nightmare main game

[hidden parrot]

I always get caught by the good and then go panic mode with Cybers at the very least

I usually hit them with a double LOB followed by a hook super shotgun blood punch

[azure oriole]

I've done all 3UN's now, and even the master levels.

[austere bronze]

if you hit a wall or find yourself not enjoying the game that much, a break can be good

i've taken a few ~1 week long breaks

[polar osprey]

yeah once u know how to quickswap they are slowing the fuck down

or like basically weak as fuck

[hidden parrot]

Yeah, it's really not that bad

I also have the distance to get them to perma flash down to a science basically

I use controller though so I can really only quickswap 2 weapons at a time, and melee cancelling is basically worthless

[polar osprey]

dont worry bro they sometimes throw 2 at you or one buffed one ❤️

[hidden parrot]

2's not even that much of an issue

[polar osprey]

and it gets far more dicey

[hidden parrot]

I just ignore the second and kill the first

[polar osprey]

well damn i may have a skill issue then

if you feel like masochism, you can play kaisercampaign, super gore nest has 3 archviles

specifically the second fight in sgn

or i mean the second fight in that massive gore nest area

[hidden parrot]

I think I'm quite alright, I saw a video and I am not nearly good enough at the game for that

[polar osprey]

well im clearly worse than you, but im still attempting it becuase fuck it we ball 🔥

tho im doing it on hurt me plenty so things are just less harmful

[hidden parrot]

DLC still has fast travel right

[polar osprey]

possibly i forgor

[azure oriole]

both dlcs have fast travel

[austere bronze]

you can bind weapons

with the right binds, learning to quick swap on controller is quite easy

even if you wanna punch cancel rockets

it is harder to move at the same time though, or at least in my experience

[hidden parrot]

Intruiging

I may give it a go, but I've been doing fine enough with just the 2 weapon quick swap

It's a bit annoying when I have to switch which 2 weapons I need, but it's workable

[austere bronze]

you can get by with almost anything in this game, but other options can be vastly better

you don't have to bind weapons, but it's good and fun (imo) once you've gotten used to it

[hidden parrot]

Perhaps I'll look into it then

[azure oriole]

I just chainsawed a fauder, the fauder survived, and the marauder exploded into loot?

Okay game, thanks I guess, I'll fucking take it.

[dreamy nymph]

What’s a fauder

[fringe torrent]

Probably meant fodder

[dreamy nymph]

Ok

[onyx egret]

Do I do ultra nightmare on doom eternal before I get doom the dark ages

[polar osprey]

bro stronger than the slayer himself fr, just denies death

[azure oriole]

Do you like ultra nightmare?

If so go for it, if it's not for you don't

[austere bronze]

starting to actually work in shield dashing into my regular gameplay, and it feels great

very easy to pull off on some enemies (tyrants), but then barons are just super hard lol

[azure oriole]

Yo same, easy way to go zoomie zoom weeee

Freeze the enemy and then do it

[austere bronze]

and it can also be used if you know the demon has 200 HP or less

so if a staggered demon survives a pb/sticky, just dash straight into them with the shield and go flying

[azure oriole]

I love to use it in the supergore nest final section where you have to escape

[austere bronze]

ah yeah that's a really nice application of it

nice to see someone else using it too!

a lot of the things i've recently been applying into my playstyle (recently being within like the last 200-300 hours lmao) i don't really see utilized

[placid pumice]

Oh.. damn nvm

[azure oriole]

I've been starting to meat hock up and then use the landing frames to bpod at crazy speed.

[austere bronze]

that's great

[azure oriole]

You should try it if you haven't, it's super fun.

Because the hard landing animation pushes you a bit if you cancel it with a jump you go flying.

[austere bronze]

i've been playing grounded lately, so lurch hops aren't that common for me to be able to pull off

[slate sinew]

myhouse.wad

[austere bronze]

i do however bhop after ballista boosts, yeethooks, shield dashes and all those goodies

[azure oriole]

I like to do a mix of grounded and air depending on what I'm up against.

[austere bronze]

momentum gain/loss is a very important but often overlooked aspect imo

[azure oriole]

Another fun thing is ballidta boost, punch, destroyer blade

Sitll waiting to get my milestone rewards for all default milestones, seems even if it doesn't bug you still don't get the items without contacting support.

Thanks ID.

[austere bronze]

have you given tech a crack? you seem advanced enough to start labbing with it

[azure oriole]

Tech?

Well most things that are cool are tech?

[austere bronze]

lol truee

i was mostly referencing weapon tech

things like punch cancels, mod swap cancels, fast destroyer blade, double destroyer blade, SLOB, etc

[dreamy nymph]

The official DOOM Eternal mod loader is cool

[azure oriole]

I know punch cancel and SLOB, I can do mod swap cancles, they just make me cramp so I avoid it.

[gray rivet]

Understood, thanks guys

[austere bronze]

ahh

doing things like that is kinda the basis for tons of tech

oh wait aren't you the dude with super weird binds? lol

[azure oriole]

Yep

Don't translate Inkei from Japanese to English!!!

[austere bronze]

wow truly the bamboozlement of bamboozles

[twin gale]

[woven moth]

Doomz

[gray rivet]

[azure oriole]

Support is silly billy sometiems

Thanks auto mod.

[wanton glacier]

random question but does anyone know who did the animation for the archvile in doom eternal?

[azure oriole]

ID software

[wanton glacier]

no way

all this time i thought it was valve

[gray rivet]

Ask Hugo he knows and always credits who did what individually

[dreamy nymph]

Goog

[azure oriole]

Do you have his contact details? How the heck do you get in contact with Hugo lmao.

[azure oriole]

They told me to send the image of the milestone, the image that was in my report, to support.

ID bless your souls.

[gray rivet]

Idk😭

[lethal ibex]

Can I say I don't like the helmet on the sentinel armor?

Like, the armor itself looks badass, but there are so many better helmets they could've chose for it.

[woven moth]

Sentinel armor was just Proto dark ages armor

[lethal ibex]

I guess.
I just don't like the helmet design.
Looking at concept art, or anything in the codex, shows there were other cooler designs for the sentinel helmet.

[azure oriole]

Battle mode > tag2

[outer rapids]

Any PC player who could help me get battlemode achievments?

players*

[carmine mesa]

I just started again with Doom Eternal on Nightmare mode and fucking damn do I love it

[austere bronze]

heck yeahh

[carmine mesa]

now I regret that I went ultra violence with doom 2016

[azure oriole]

Nightmare is the best way to play in my opinion, the worse is Ultra Nightmare.

[austere bronze]

i mean, the best difficulty is completely subjective

[carmine mesa]

I mean of course with ultra violence or below I would probably "first try" more areas

but I love going tactical on why I died or what I can do to prevent it next time

I wonder if going nightmare in the dark ages would hurt the immersion when you need to go through an area multiple times?

(in case of deaths)

[azure oriole]

I know.

[azure oriole]

I do too, but sometimes its like "so don't get Teleported 100 miles into space"

Or in tag2s last level I had this one "don't fall out of the map"

[twin gale]

that certainly is an opinion

[austere bronze]

nah that's fair honestly

[polar osprey]

i feel an urge to stop playing kaisercampaign and just do slaughter maps/other doom shit

like maybe the graveyard map from saleem

[austere bronze]

do that!

[twin gale]

do okuplok uv max

[polar osprey]

what the fuck is that, did you cast a spell on me

[twin gale]

no okuplok is a classic doom creator

[azure oriole]

Tag1 < battle mode, I love battle mode.

[twin gale]

they made at least 2 slaughter maps over a decade ago and then disappeared

the latest one is really hard

to say the least

so do that if you're bored of kaiser

[austere bronze]

hop on the eternal slaughter map grind instead🗣️

[twin gale]

doom eternal slaughter map sounds like hell

i know it cant have 23000 demons at a time but still

[austere bronze]

depends on which you choose

[twin gale]

well i cant choose any because console dont got mod support

[austere bronze]

there honestly aren't any that hard eternal slaughter maps

[azure oriole]

Same man... Same... I use to be pc, and then I sold it to help save towards my new pc.

[austere bronze]

and this isn't just me having a skewed perspective, because there are harder level mods

no nvm i retract that statememt...

the funny idk929 skill issue encounter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cbRbDOaMac

[twin gale]

lord have mercy

with no lob or dblade

[young mango]

Graahhhh

[austere bronze]

i wish so badly that this level didn't crash my game

[carmine mesa]

hahaha

this is my goal

[austere bronze]

wait holy shit

it didn't

[azure oriole]

With Rocket punch do you just punch, or punch press Rocket button, I do the ladder but don't know if it's needed.

[austere bronze]

you do need to press the bind

and do a pb shot (or something that activates fse) beforehand ofc

[strange gale]

stickybombs are an outlier but who gaf

[carmine mesa]

if you check out one of my latest campaign clips, it's like watching a snail
https://www.twitch.tv/hellstone1337/clip/ProudBloodyBobaDendiFace-b41Xyw3QanggV0Cz

the speed difference is sick 😂

[twin gale]

i think slob is a much better alternative to punch swapping rockets

if you're doing the pb shot first might as well go for the slob

[strange gale]

400 + 900 + 2700 (4000) is an awkward damage number though

[austere bronze]

you were in hell onn earth though, impossible to be that fast in there

[strange gale]

it doesn't land on any important breakpoints

[twin gale]

[strange gale]

overkills mancs by 500 damage, spiders and dredges by 1000

[austere bronze]

and reduced splash damage

rocket splash is very good

600 splash at 3 or less meters

[strange gale]

you can punch cancel slob though to only deal 3100 in total which is a lot better

overkills spiders and dredges by only 100 dmg n you can add another pb to kill mancs

[azure oriole]

I'm fast in hell on earth, I spam pb sticky and pb punch cancels every 2 seconds.

[austere bronze]

can't be as fast as a slayer with the meathook, dash, ballista, and the rest of the arsenal though

[azure oriole]

True that

Also with rocket punch especially on controller there is one big problem no matter the binds, cramps.

It hurts to do after a bit, due to claw.

[twin gale]

you may be able to pb sticky in hell on earth but you cant swing around the arena at light speed

[young mango]

Railboost 🪱

[twin gale]

putting a grappling hook on the super shotgun was a pretty good idea

[azure oriole]

Hope it doesn't come back in dark ages.

[twin gale]

it probably wont you're meant to stand and fight as per the game motto

[austere bronze]

very good idea

[twin gale]

if you do mod swap tech then keep mod swap but if you dont switch mods that much you can keep flame belch and if you need to switch mods you can do it in the dossier

although both of them are pretty important

mod swap obviously has tech but flame belch can help create armor pools so you can spam blood punch

armor only contributes to blood punch if you're max armor

[twin gale]

and you have the crystal perk

[young mango]

This question can be posed as, get rid of an entire restacking method or get rid of the ability to swap mods, which isn’t really all that necessary

Not too familiar with controllers, when I played on ps4 it was triangle for flame belch

That’s crazy to think abt, last time I played on console the ability to change controller binds didn’t even exist

[twin gale]

oh i thought you were talkin about sacrificing one

well in that case i thought mod swap was already on the dpad

thats the way it is on xbox ateast

keep mod swap on the dpad

you can use other fingers or the bony part under your index finger to move if you need to

well if that ends up working for you then its fine since you still have both

i kept all of the default controls i just got rid of some binds for weapons

it is quite the task to go all the way to dossier just to switch mods sometimes but at least i can swap to my main 4 weapons without the wheel

[young mango]

Maybe left stick down could be used for dash

[twin gale]

mines a little difference

a jump b dash i forgot what x is y flame belch rb wheel lb equipment rs use/punch ls heavvy cannon up ballista right ssg down rocket launcher left switch equipment

oh yeah x is chainsaw

i just picked those because they're close to the thumbstick

and also there were a lot of functions there i didnt need

like mod swap and crucible and mission info

yeah dont even know what the point is

especially after you play the game so much and know all the maps by heart you dont need guide

i might get rid of the waypointoff the hud

[austere bronze]

flame belch is more important, but both are important

the mod swap button is necessary for a lot of tech, and swapping weapond mods (duh), which is nice

flame belch gives you the ability to restack like crazy

[azure oriole]

I have ssg on left stick lmao

[bold narwhal]

Eternal lore nerds question, is the crucible you use in the game the dark lords old crucible before he got the big one, the one in the codex looks like a one on one of the one the slayer uses

[azure oriole]

I don't think that's ever specified

[alpine mortar]

@azure oriole

[azure oriole]

As far as we know Crucibles are a Sentinel creation. The two Crucibles we find across 2016-Eternal do not seem to have any connection to Davoth.

[bold narwhal]

We know he does have one tho

[nimble marten]

the little symbols humans drew of the Slayer's insignia across reclaimed earth somehow made it my favourite videogame level

[twin gale]

reclaimed earth is good but i like final sin better

i know the level design isnt top tier but i love the fact its focused on crazy combat

[nimble marten]

final sin is nice but urdak felt better minus the goon maker

[azure oriole]

Hey mog may I ask how support reasoned to you?

[nimble marten]

no fr urdak, final sin, nekravol 2, and i'd even say immora to a smaller degree are amazing gauntlets t

[twin gale]

yeah urdak would probably be my top if it werent for the easy maykr

[nimble marten]

she's
fun as a boss
no lie
i find her more FUN than the Icon
but
the icon is more engaging

[twin gale]

such a good level and it all leads up to that boring ass fight

[hidden parrot]

I'm not gonna lie, I cheesed the first full half of the fight by standing behind a structure that blocked all her attacks lmao

[minor pumice]

I did the world spear ML on ultra-nightmare (and in other modes)

All ML 100%

Main story 100%

DLCs 100%