doom-eternal

[austere bronze]

practice and practice lol

everyone starts out somewhere

for me it was ITYTD

[torn wyvern]

I had to actually learn marauder guide on how to kill him easily 🙏

[torn wyvern]

Ngl this fucker is kinda hard on higher difficulties
You either lock in or die

[sturdy cosmos]

Doom Eternal is like Chess. Think of the demons as different pieces and you’re an uber Queen able to move around anywhere on the board.

[unique harness]

Don't compare yourself to the pseudo-speedrunners who enjoy the Master levels and ultra nightmare. they're not normal gamers

Unless you want to be one of them, I guess

[austere bronze]

if you wanna improve at the game, i think comparison can be very good

you just gotta keep in mind that it's unreasonable to actually be as good as the best players

[torn wyvern]

Train 🚂
I finished doom eternal on ultra violence on second playthrough
After 1-2 years of not playing
Everyone got their own speed

[young mango]

Hey man at the end of the day it’s just a game, you shouldn’t base your enjoyment based off your proficiency. Easy for me to say, sure, but time was put in to make it that way. I also want to add that while beating ultra-nightmare isn’t exactly rare, what you see might be a little skewed. Like if you’re looking up YouTube videos on DE chances are ITYTD left click win gameplay isn’t gonna be the most popular. If you’re talking outside the context of YouTube, that could also be skewed. Like, there might be a ton of players in this server who aren’t very good, but as you could imagine, they kind of stop appearing because they didn’t stick around to hone their skills. Meaning by default a lot of the people you interact and with are going to have higher skill levels, regardless of if that’s actually what the majority of the community is like.

[austere bronze]

tammie spitting some truth

[torn wyvern]

^^

[simple idol]

He's not fun, he's just boring.

[sturdy cosmos]

It’s also to do with how much time you’re willing to invest in this game to get good. Few hours or hundreds/thousands

The pros you see only play this game as their main

[austere bronze]

hard disagree

only time in the normal game possessed demons actually put some real pressure on the player

[polar osprey]

backshotted

[sick pilot]

yo

been awhile when i last played d.e

the ending. is it an open ending?

[clear spade]

Yeah… worst design and stupid arena very frustrating 0 fun in this

[oblique topaz]

uac atlantica is so goated

best level imo

[polar osprey]

open ending as in?

[azure oriole]

Campaign yes, dlc seemingly no

[sick pilot]

so gods

so ancient gods part 1+2 aren't actually telling the whole D.E story?

i dont even remember the D.E campagin ending.

[azure oriole]

The ancient gods takes place shortly after eternal

[sick pilot]

ok, what was the eternal ending again?

so, i was googling for 'doom eternal ending' .. all i find is the dlc ending

[azure oriole]

It was basically just the doom slayer after he defeats the icon of sin walking towards the camera as it pans away into space while king novik narrates some shit about your fight being eternal and all that

[young mango]

title drop😭

its fantastic ahh cutscene

[azure oriole]

It felt so unceremonious I'm almost convinced it was put together in like 2 weeks

[novel jungle]

Does any one knows, how to fix missed milestone rewards (missed items)??

[graceful current]

it feels way better with the cut into sandy's city track over it

cause that's actually synced with the cutscene

it's so lame in game because it just plays at doom's gate which literally drops before novik is even done talking

[simple idol]

I playing the master level of Taras Nabad and the energy fell, i wanna die

[rocky vigil]

fr taras nabad is something else

[simple idol]

I was in the part that had 2 arc vile

In nightmare

[young mango]

The arenas not that bad if you get familiar with which enemies trigger the next waves

Dreadknights dead spawns the tyrants and tyrants dead brings the wall down

[simple idol]

How many hours do you have of Doom Eternal?

I have 700h

[young mango]

2500

[simple idol]

A

[azure oriole]

yo can i have some tips on how to beat the final reclaimed earth arena on nightmare

i started a tag nightmare playthrough a couple months ago but was demotivated to finish because ofthat arena

i think im too used to 2016 playstyle i keep forgetting to chainsaw

i did it second try

[young mango]

Generic way to start this, but spam hammer. This arena, like most arenas in reclaimed earth, has randomized spawn locations. As for specifics I can provide without just explaining straight up routing, the cursed prowler when killed spawns a baron and when the baron and second doom hunter are killed a possessed manc spawns. It can be killed in about 2-3 LoBs, after it’s killed an archvile will spawn, which I advise rushing towards immediately and killing, the arena comes down after that, throwing another baron your way with a few heavies and a tyrant afterwards

Ah, well I’m a bit late with this one then

[azure oriole]

i have never been that genuinely stressed while playing doom eternal ever

welp time for immora

hope i can get through it a little easier and finally finish the nightmare playthrough

[graceful current]

oh i just beat immora on nightmare last night

some of those arenas are brutal

[graceful current]

ngl they should've connected the evil eyes from classic doom to kalibas or the turrets in eternal

that would've been quite a fun callback

[unreal echo]

really random, but I had a dream that there was a new doom eternal enemy named Jeremy. He can basically become any demon even after he dies because he is a spirit. But, if you shoot Jeremy with specifically the ballista, bfg, or precision heavy cannon, he takes actual damage. He has about the same health as a mancubus.

don’t know why I’m telling you this I think it’s just so I don’t forget it

[signal hedge]

GUYS

I FINISHED DOOM ETERNAL ON ULTRA NIGHTMARE

YESS

[gritty mica]

Yes sir

Did you get all the achievements yet?

[simple idol]

I finished master level Taras nabad in nightmare

I hate this level

I never play that phase again.

[oblique topaz]

What’s the rankings of master levels easiest to hardest

[azure oriole]

ARC Complex
Cultist Base
SGN
Mars Core
World Spear
Taras Nabad

[simple idol]

Cultist base is the base game?

And sgn

[simple idol]

I always knew I had it, but dont shows up to me.

[azure oriole]

you need the rip and tear dlc pack

[simple idol]

Oh

[young mango]

I’d say taras and WS are semi interchangeable since taras depends more on being an average ML with major choke points while WS has less choke points but I’d go as far to say its harder on average

[simple idol]

Now that I've stopped to think, imagine a master level-only campaign.

[oblique topaz]

That would be so hype

[oblique topaz]

Oh

I’ve only played arc

Ik it’s free

[frosty yoke]

My run be like :

• Hell on Earth -> DOOM Hunter Base : "This is better, I have more fun than on a lower difficulty."
• Midway through Super Gore Nest : (I died a few times)
• Finishing Super Gore Nest : "Now we are done with this level"
• Remembering that Arc Complex is next : "You were never one of us, you were nothing but a usurper, a faulse idol, my eyes have been opened, let me help you to see, Slayer"

[naive kiln]

Yo, question. Is battlemode dead or am I just not getting a match ?

[azure oriole]

the mode itself is pretty much dead

but if you are on pc there's a lot of mods that expand the mp for Eternal

[sturdy cosmos]

That’s a shame

So to get the trophies you pretty much gotta play custom lobbies and cheese

[torn wyvern]

remember when i said that?
now i met one possesed by a spirit
IM /IN DANGER

[smoky cedar]

Doom eternal is freezing all of a sudden. The game is running at 150-200 fps at 1080p. Couple years ago the game ran fine and now all of a sudden it’s not. I recently got a new SSD and installed the game on there but that shouldn’t be an issue.

[polar osprey]

verify game files

right click doom eternal in steam, click properties, click installed files, click verify integrity of game files

[smoky cedar]

Alr did that

I got game mode enabled, using high performance on my power plan

Idk what’s the issue

[minor pumice]

Try to unistall it and install it again. Maybe during the port something went wrong. Or maybe it's the SSD the problem... to slow maybe.

[smoky cedar]

Verifying the integrity essentially reinstalls the game

[minor pumice]

Ah no I didn't understand that you install it again recently. I thought you transfer the data from one SSD to another

[smoky cedar]

I transferred between hardrives

[minor pumice]

I don't know man, if I were you I would unistall it and install it again. It might work. If you are sure that your SSD isn't the problem (or something else) it could be the files

[graceful current]

ehhhhh

does it?

[smoky cedar]

It checks the files and sees what’s corrupt

[graceful current]

also recently i had it freezing tons but it stopped when i stopped having discord running at the same time

so idk do you play the game with just eternal open or

[smoky cedar]

I’m currently troubleshooting my disk

[smoky cedar]

I have it close afaik

Shouldn’t matter tho, I have 250 hours on the game running fine

Now all a sudden it’s freezing arbitrarily

Fml

[polar osprey]

i heard people had issues with game mode

its not good for gaming ironically

[smoky cedar]

So I’ve heard

[austere bronze]

lol, somehow i've got consisten single dashing while punch cancelling rockets, but not while doing pb+rocket

[azure oriole]

my luck is absolutley wonderful

i killed a possessed baron right where a cyber mancubus spawned so that it could kill me while i was tryna kill the spirit

absolute cinema

you love to see it

[polar osprey]

always look at your surroundings

[azure oriole]

You do have a little bit of time to kill other things before the spirit possesses someone else

[plucky ingot]

In the second level who knows how to get past the puzzle with the cannons

Idk if you guys know what I’m talking about

[azure oriole]

Which cannons

[ember plinth]

Just unlocked the unmakyr, how do i use it properly?

[azure oriole]

it literally spawned in as soon as i glory kiled the baron

i dont have the spawns memorized

[azure oriole]

right where i killed it

[azure oriole]

dont

[ember plinth]

why

i just spent so long revisiting levels doing all the slayer gates

[azure oriole]

bfg is a much better use for the ammo since it can clear a whole arena in 1 shot

there are ways to use it but i dont know them because its a pretty high skill floor

[ember plinth]

is there any usecase for the unmakyr

[azure oriole]

People might say that the unmaykr is good for dealing with large individual demons like barons and tyrants but even then it's pretty niche

BFG outclasses it completely in terms of usefulness

[ember plinth]

can the bfg kill those large demons in one shot when its a full arena?

also wouldnt unmakyr be really good for boss fights?

[azure oriole]

Not quite but it'll reduce a large chunk of health and kill anything that isn't a super heavy

[azure oriole]

yes the unmaykr is decent for the icon of sin especially with all the argent pickups

[ember plinth]

alr

[young mango]

Icon has a weakness against bfg and a resistance towards unmaykr

[ember plinth]

sick, is icon of sin my next boss after that one colluseum themed boss fight where he had a shield that blew green??

[azure oriole]

well dame

[azure oriole]

no the next boss isnt icon of sin i wont spoil anything

[ember plinth]

alr thx

[young mango]

To elaborate:
against icon of sin, 30 argent ammo does
10000 from bfg
5940 from unmaykr

[azure oriole]

looks like i need to study up on damage

[faint ingot]

So scummy omg

[young mango]

Could you be more specific

[faint ingot]

They give you that thing after working for it the entire game it seems like using it on the last boss is the most obvious choice

And its shit

The unmaykrs fall off from doom 64 makes me sad I really wish they'd done it justice

[young mango]

Yeah it seems the devs hate the unmaykr for some reason. There’s plausible deniability at the start because you can just say like “Oh well they just didn’t balance it correctly”. But then they make the dlc and make new enemies just to give them resistances to the unmaykr. It doesn’t make any sense, the unmaykr being bad was like a universal opinion so I’m a bit lost on the decision there.

[faint ingot]

And then they at the same time keep trying to say how cool and powerful it is like why are you lying

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/TUOBhmP3HIg?si=7u5lwx0j7pDsQN7u

[polar osprey]

maybe theyre trying to subtely tell you "since you beat the challenge rooms, you are already really good'

[faint ingot]

that sucks

[slender solar]

anyone wanna help platium on ps?

[terse sparrow]

@slender solar i need an achievement that isnt platinum

I can help tho

[slender solar]

what u need

[terse sparrow]

That escalated quickly

Its kinda weird to get

[slender solar]

me and my friend need trophy for killing demons 8 weapons

[terse sparrow]

Ok

Heres my one: you get to round 4, and teamate chooses resurrection perk, i get killed by slayer and teammate lowers slayer health, im then revived and u kill slayer within 3 seconds of my ressurection

@slender solar i can help u btw

My user is qm333n

[slender solar]

added

[wraith trail]

Hey guys, I really need some help. I’ve been trying to learn quick switching. I play using ZQSD and have two buttons on my mouse. Can someone suggest good keybinds for this setup plz ?

[rugged flax]

The Good

[naive kiln]

Just saw the message. That's sad, i got the game late so i didnt get to try the mode

[plucky adder]

oooouuugggghh, playing doom eternal after not playing for like 2 weeks and going straight into final sin…skill issue apparent

[polar osprey]

i remember finishing doom 2016 and hopping straight to tag 1

i got my shit rocked so hard

[rugged flax]

damn

[austere bronze]

there's battlemode 3.0, which is like normal battlemode but balanced better, and people play it quite regularly

you could also just find a team for battlemode 2.0 (normal battlemode)

[naive kiln]

Is that a mod ?

[austere bronze]

yes

[azure oriole]

show me your svs

[plucky adder]

Lmao

[naive kiln]

Ahh got it may I'll look into it, thanks

[austere bronze]

my svs is bigger than urs

[fossil thicket]

part of me rlly wishes that they would drop dark ages themed skins as a final bonus update to promote the dark ages

[polar osprey]

that would be fuckin sick

same way santamonica added the young kratos skin

[fossil thicket]

another thing i wish the DOOM team did was add a setting option that included your battlemode skins into the main campaign

[polar osprey]

so you dont have to pay some guy in patreon to have a scuffed version

[fossil thicket]

so like, if you had the Agent Vile Skins for your archvile on Battlemode

you could transfer that to the main campaign so that enemy archviles had it

[polar osprey]

wait what

i can just do that?

[fossil thicket]

no, im saying i WISH that was possible

[polar osprey]

:(

[azure oriole]

Those master collection skins would have interfered with the destructible demon system probably

[fossil thicket]

i mean, they could obviously just deactivate it for the skins

its not like it'd be something for immersion lmao. just a funny addon after youve done a lot in the game

[azure oriole]

You'd also have to factor in glory kills

[fossil thicket]

i mean... just cancel the animations and just skip to the benefits

[azure oriole]

Now we're playing doom the dark ages

[fossil thicket]

not entirely...? the combat is still agile and horizontal based, pressure is still high with the same weapons and upgrades that Regular Eternal and ancient gods have...

just... goofy skins? and cancelled glory kills?

if the cancelled glory kill thing is the immediate pickup for you on t

i keep entering too quickly fuck

If the cancelled glory kill animations thing is what immediately draws you to DOOM : The Dark ages then i dont know what to tell you man

[azure oriole]

That last part was a joke

[fossil thicket]

i didnt mean to say mad i keep getting into fucking typos and enterring quickly cause my keyboards at a weird angle sorry

[azure oriole]

Technological woes befall us all

[polar osprey]

i mean, i wont be surprised if it woudlve been easy to make the guts also colored like the skin

[austere bronze]

then you should also reduce the amount of hp gained from gks

[azure oriole]

Not 2016 over again

[naive kiln]

man why is this game so hard and yet why do i love it for that reason 🥲 ultra nightmare seems impossible

[oblique topaz]

Holy shit samur boss is so bad bro

[terse sparrow]

U get used to it

Worst part is second spirit phase

I always save a bfg shot to weaken pain elemental

[calm yew]

Hi. Soneone to play ?

[azure oriole]

shoot a bfg upwards before the spirit phase begins and it will kill both demons before they get possessed
you'll have enough time to kill both spirits with the microwave beam

[austere bronze]

why?

[meager igloo]

Bouta start nightmare Taras nabad

[azure forum]

It does at first, but once you get familiar with the game's combat style and techniques, it becomes reachable

[oblique topaz]

It feels so weird that like he’s not even rlly the biggest threat in any phase besides the 1st

The 4th phase it’s the fucking blood makyr and eyes while he js hides

[azure oriole]

he hides because he knows that the doom slayer will annihilate him

"they wont let you shut down the well without a fight, but that's what you're looking for, isn't it?"

from the final mission of 2016

[graceful current]

would the ancient gods count as the modern equivalent to final doom

[azure oriole]

in terms of difficulty or story?

[graceful current]

difficulty mostly and format

like a 2 part expansion for the modern version of doom ii which is also significantly harder

though i suppose davoth is kinda similar to the gatekeeper story-wise what with killing them making all the demons disintegrate and stuff

[ruby comet]

In a scale of 1 to 10 how much do you think Goomguy likes the intern from ancient gods

[azure oriole]

For assisting him as much as he did maybe a healthy 6

[peak torrent]

Goomguy?

[azure oriole]

The protagonist from the acclaimed "Goom"

[finite grove]

How did eternal end again... is he a God? From an old race of fighters or sth

[graceful current]

goomguy

[fossil thicket]

who.. the slayer?

cause, you can find out pretty easily from the codex's as the game goes along but if you want further clarification

but if u want a nutshell

i can tell you

[finite grove]

Yeah! I can not be lazy and find it, just came to mind, just remember the lore being cool. But a nutshell version would be appreciated!

[fossil thicket]

basically hes a guy who was punished for refusing to kill innocent civilians. Was sent to mars as punishment, a portal to hell was opened up and they killed everyone he loved so he got so mad he went on a hateful rampage spanning Three video games, Doom 1, 2 AND 64 and eventually decided to stay in hell to kill even MORE of them. Eventually he arrives on argent d'nur which is basically a techno-medieval society who worship angels and Elemental wraith thingamabobs. meanwhile, a guy called the seraphim is interested in the slayer because of how much Plot armour he has, and so he takes him to machine called the divinity machine during a big invasion of hells forces there and because of it, is infused with the powers of the Original God of the doom universe... being satan ironically. and because of that he gets heavy superpowers that allows him to kill a 30-story demon titan by himself. Eventually the events of the Dark Ages happen and we dont know what goes down there yet cause it aint happened but somehow he gets sealed away and the events of DOOM 2016 take place and its all straight forward from there.

so.. yes. he is a god, but not by birthright

but for longer explanation.

[fossil thicket]

SPOILER ALERT FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NOT YET LEARNT DOOM LORE FULLY:
||Basically the Doomguy/Doomslayer/Doom Marine was a Marine who attacked his commanding officer after he commanded the Doomguy to open fire on innocent civilians. Because of this he got punished and was sent to Mars to work for the United Aerospace Corporation as punishment. This is where the events of DOOM 1 take place, a portal to hell is opened BY the UAC and The DOOMguys pet rabbit and family are killed. And what starts his conquest for killing the demons.
DOOM 2 happens next and the earth is invaded by hoardes of demons, leaving the Doomguy as one man against them all, the game ends with the Doomguy walking through a portal into hell where he Kills the Icon of sin. Stopping the Hoarde of demons
Doom 64 happens and a surviving demon manages to escape by masking themselves in radioactive signature, biding their time to resurrect the demonic forces on mars, and because of that the Doomguy is called to fight the forces of hell one last time. During this game the Slayer is lured deeper through a portal into hell where he faces off a powerful demonic entity known as the Mother Demon. And in his hate and bloodlust chooses to stay in hell for eternity.
Its unknown exactly how but fans speculate it was some dimensional portal shenanigans that caused it.. however The Doomguy arrives on Argent D'nur, a planet whos people are built on the back of warrior ethos and combative discipline. With Monarchic hierarchy (they have a king and queen type leadership) as well as Religious ties to the elements and later, a Quasi-religious doctrine from the Makyr's who are basically biblical Angels. The Slayer arrived around the same time as the first invasion of hells forces on Argent D'nur. This is implied to be part of a bigger conspiracy related to Samuel Hayden, The Khan Makyr or both.
While the Argenta people were initially keen to Imprison him for his erratic and violent tendencies. They grew to accept him.||

[finite grove]

Holy wow @fossil thicket thank you so much for this!! Really appreciated! Going to enjoy pouring over this!

[fossil thicket]

its unfinished.

||eventually as the Doomguy and the Night Sentinels, the elite fighting force of the argenta people went along with fighting demons and working for the Makyrs. The Demonic forces of Hell launched an assault on the City of Taras Nabad, unleashing a great Titan. A giant demonic creature the size of the castles very walls. Because of this, A Makyr by the name of Samur, would take the DOOM Slayer to the Divinity Machine. A machine designed as part of the Khan Makyrs great plan to prevent a prophecised Dark one from threatening her homeworld of Urdak... however something went awry, Davoth, the dark lord himself had embedded a fragment of his own being into the machine in an attempt to create a champion that would exact his vengeance against his creations. But Samur knew this, he knew that Davoth had sabotaged it and worked to reverse its purpose back onto itself... and when the DOOM Guy emerged, he was granted superhuman properties that led him to take down the great Titan that sieged Taras Nabad by himself. It was here that the first legend of the DOOM Slayer was written, as his hatred was shown to have no true bounds. and his testament was written in the blood of the demon-kind that dared show their face on mortal soils. he became the only thing THEY would ever fear.
it is unknown to me as to what happened past this point as DOOM The Dark Ages has not yet released yet. but basically Doom 2016's events happen, with the slayer being released... i havent actually played 2016 so i'll skip to Eternal.
During Eternal, the Earth is once again being invaded by the forces of hell in what is the Khan Makyr's grand design of Purging planets of their mortal life forms so that their life essences may fuel her own worlds prosperity. And so the DOOM slayer moves to kill Hell Priests from his past that guard the Khan Makyr's life as well as influence the Demonic expansion of hell as a total. And at the end he finds out that The Khan Makyr will Resurrect The Icon of Sin.||

[naive kiln]

I ve beat it on nightmare multiple times and some parts were easy, but ultra nightmare is just next level

[peak torrent]

hey guys, i have a favor to ask of you all.

can you record a video and tour me around the Fortress of Doom? i kinda need some reference for the architecture and layout of the place (yt isn't reliable), and i'd really appreciate it

thanks

[finite grove]

This is so fucking cool

[fossil thicket]

||because of this threat, the second most powerful demonic presence, under Davoth himself. The DOOM slayer had to act, and to do this he had to venture to urdak... through the oldest known region of hell, where the souls of the damned are converted to demons, assisted by Doctor Samuel Hayden and Vega he makes several shocking discoveries... Vega is the father. And The Icon of Sin has fallen OUT of the Khan Makyrs very control, and so he fights... he kills the Khan Makyr, uncaring of Urdaks incoming corruption.. and upon returning to earth, he fights the ICON of sin on one last bout. of combat... eventually winning||

The Ancient gods storyline

that is a lot more streamlined and easier to understand, as there are more cutscenes to understand everything

unlike the main DOOM eternal campaign, where the codex stuff and lore is more just Miscellaneous

but in that uhhh

|| basically DOOM Slayer is looking to finally end the fight against the Demons once and for all, so he tricks Samuel hayden, or as hes later revealed to be Samur Makyr, the seraphim who GAVE the doom slayer his powers into thinking hes going to bring back the Father into physical form. But oopsie-daisy, instead he double crossed Samur Makyr by destroying the Fathers Life sphere and instead taking Davoth's... Samur and The Doom slayer fight. And then the slayer wins, he resurrects the dark lord. cue to Ancient gods 2 where its just the Slayer chasing down his way to immora, the oldest part of Hell and what was intended to be a utopia... He fights Davoth and Davoth is like 'ermmm actually im the original god soooo you got lied too 🤓' but the DOOM slayer doesnt give a fuck, he kills Davoth and all the demons die, but because The DOOM Slayer has a piece of davoth inside him he starts dying too. so hes sealed away for the next doom game that bothers to try and pull an excuse out of its arse as to why the Doom slayer can return to video game industry that isnt just about Making bethesda money!||

[fossil thicket]

yeah, these kind of slayer legends are why everyone whos read the codex entries KNOW the dark ages is going to be peak.

even if it isnt like DOOM eternal, its a return to the slayers old form while still incorporating new ideas and mechanics from the previous games too.

[azure oriole]

medieval fantasy slop

[finite grove]

I'm saving this, absolutely fantastic! Hats off to you and you've well earned your name with this. Thank you for all the effort!

[fossil thicket]

funny joke, anyways

[fossil thicket]

youre absolutely welcome! :DDD

[azure oriole]

its not a joke

[fossil thicket]

then you my friend, are missing out! whatever floats the boat.

[azure oriole]

eh probably

wish they made a quake game with that type of lore

medieval fantasy stuff fits more in og quake than in doom

[graceful current]

kinda true

[polar osprey]

funny thing is, davoth isnt even a god, he is just the direct son of god, iirc

[graceful current]

the game treats davoth as capital g God but who knows if that is even the case anymore

[polar osprey]

well no, not really

he was never a god

and the davoth we fought is weakened, as doomguy absorbed a shard of his power from the divinity machine

[graceful current]

they literally say he was the first being and created everything in tag 2

[polar osprey]

becuase the divinity machine was powered by his essence

[graceful current]

that is kinda what being God is

[polar osprey]

doomguy is not a god killer, he is just a cracked up superhuman, nor is he a god

davoth is also not a god, pretty much also a superhuman, same as doomguy is

[graceful current]

so how is he "the first being" who created everything then

[polar osprey]

davoth created things by existing, not out of free will

[polar osprey]

The Father created davoth

Davoth was the first creation of The Father

[graceful current]

...have you actually played The Ancient Gods 2?

[polar osprey]

hes the yellow orb doomguy destroys in tag1

[graceful current]

The Father literally admits that he lied and that Davoth created him

[polar osprey]

little bit of it, but i know lore from m0no

[graceful current]

like he literally calls him "my creator"

[polar osprey]

the game contradicts itself a few times, i guess this is one of them

dialogue says one thing, codexes say another

always listen to the codexes

[graceful current]

"He is the first being, and my creator. When he fell, I ascended." - the father talking about davoth

[graceful current]

the codexes also say that davoth is the og God

the game literally says you were being lied to by maykr propaganda abt davoth

[polar osprey]

why did doomguy choose to destroy the father's life sphere?

becuase the father wouldve stopped him from killing davoth

[graceful current]

yes

[polar osprey]

but how would the father stop him if davoth is supposedly stronger than the father?

[graceful current]

davoth isn't stronger he just came first and created the father

[polar osprey]

the father is just as strong as davoth

[graceful current]

yeah kinda

Our research shows that Maykr history and lore holds truths that are not consistent with passages found in the Hell Priest texts, revealing the true origins of Hell and all surrounding dimensions. This revelation would explain why Hell is the single dimension that connects to all others, and why it is the oldest in existence - the first world.

In the beginning the world of Jekkad (later known as Hell) prospered under the guidance of their leader Davoth. He longed to solve the riddle of immortality for his people - an ability only he possessed. His efforts met with failure, as mortal flesh could not sustain the undying spirit. Using his unrivaled power he crafted the Maykr race to find the solution, their machine minds working in unison.

Davoth was obsessed in his effort to eliminate death from the world of Jekkad. When the Maykrs discovered the secret of immortality they deemed the knowledge too dangerous to share, for in their judgement Davoth had come to be seen as an eventual threat to all life.

The Maykrs acted in secret and worked quickly to seal Jekkad away, and Davoth with it, while the records of Urdak were rewritten to hide the truth. Enraged, Davoth became the Dark Lord as vengeance and hatred consumed him and his world, transforming it into Hell.

[polar osprey]

"Obsessed with allowing Jekkad to evade death, Davoth created the Maykrs, a race of
machine entities. The Maykrs were not organic, living beings - they were self-aware machines
with highly calculating minds, capable of immense thought and creation.10 The first and most
powerful of the Maykrs was the Father, of nearly limitless power, just like Davoth himself. The
Father was a hyper-advanced, synthetic artificial intelligence. Though he had a natural love for all
of Creation, the Father was not born, but made."

[graceful current]

yeah

basically davoth got a little crazy and the father banished him to hell and lied abt him not being the og god

[polar osprey]

neither of them have limitless power

[graceful current]

yeah

[polar osprey]

oh i see, so davoth is the original creator, currently reading through m0no's guide for doom lore

Davoth was not without flaw, and he was not the omniscient, perfect god some religions
would worship. He was a Primeval, an entity of vast and uncertain power, but not infinitely so."

he is not a god

he is a primeval

"It should be noted that the Father is not a Primeval. The Book of Seraphs portrays him as a cosmic
omnipotent being, but The Ancient Gods is very insistent in the reveal that the Father was nothing more than a machine
AI, albeit one much, much more powerful than Davoth was."

[fresh nimbus]

Hello does anyone want to join my private game, I need 1

[keen burrow]

Idk if i can post links but someone uploaded some of the soundtrack to spotify 😭😭😭 gonna get taken down before the week is over 100%

[lime rock]

Hi lads did you ever happen to have this thing, I get in horde mode this possessing ghost enemy and I dont even have plasmagun;/

[peak torrent]

i remember that the guys above me said that they'll die automatically when there are no more demons left to possess

[lime rock]

Tbh most hated enemy for me

Specially when he possess hellknight or other fast moving enemy

[chrome prawn]

Fun fact:Doom Eternal Has The Word "Eternal" In It

-Interesting Facts

Anyways I hate the soul stealers or blue spirits (whatever u call that shit)

[jolly kernel]

wtf, Eternal just recently started changing my monitor's refresh rate to 60 everytime I launch it

this never happened before

[dreamy nymph]

is your monitor 60 hz

[jolly kernel]

180 hz

freesync

[austere bronze]

whyy💔

[chrome prawn]

Who loves that little piece of shit🥀

[austere bronze]

i do xd

[azure oriole]

in my opinion on nightmare difficulty they are way too resistant to damage especially super heavy demons to be doing the same amount of damage they normally do

i dont think its fair that a possessed baron can kill me in 2 hits while i have to just meathook around the arena until i do enough damage to kill it

but hey nightmare is supposed to be not even remotely fair so what can i say

[candid juniper]

Reached out to Bethesda support and got all the skins I’m missing out on except the Doom 64 classic marine set

Guess I’ll have to wait for the event to repeat

[austere bronze]

why are they too tanky specifically on nightmare?

[austere bronze]

a normal baron kills you in the same amount of hits

[strange gale]

1. enemy base hp and spirit dmg resistances are identical across difficulties, they don't scale in any way. it would take just as long to kill a possessed superheavy on itytd as it would on nightmare.
2. spirits don't buff damage, only attack speed, so the "2 hits" claim is made up

the most damage you can take from a baron in a single hit is 60, and your max health pool is 350

[sweet pond]

battlemode is dead. innit?

[strange gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504714848194527236/1361020618715435038/image.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504714848194527236/1361020904448069782/image.png

word of advice: spam lob

[azure oriole]

yes

No more battlemode 2.0 slop

[austere bronze]

got a new mouse, and so far it's been feeling awesome :D

[azure oriole]

That's good :D

[dreamy nymph]

how

[vast cedar]

Anyone here try doom eternal motion controls on switch? I tried them but idk if I didn’t get used to it or something but it feels off and I can’t tell if it’s me or the controller

[candid juniper]

If you go to their website there’s a Bethesda support page and you can submit a ticket to redeem Slayer Club rewards, since the points system is defunct or whatever

You basically need to do this to redeem the doom 3 award as well if you’re on pc

Since the BFG edition on steam doesn’t have Bethesda.net connectivity

[fringe torrent]

You don't

You literally can just redeem it normally lol

The version with Bethesda.net connectivity is also on PC

[candid juniper]

Wasn’t the Bethesda launcher shut down

[fringe torrent]

Yes but that version is still on PC

[candid juniper]

Where is it being sold

[fringe torrent]

Microsoft Store and Epic Games Store

[candid juniper]

Assumed Epic

Nevermind then.

Still useful for people who don’t want to rebuy the game for a skin

[fringe torrent]

It's somewhat dishonest to ask support for a skin you can legitimately get

[candid juniper]

I wouldn’t feel too bad about it if you already paid for and own the game

[true heath]

So I can still get the zombie slayer skin?

[candid juniper]

Yes

[true heath]

Hell yeah

[candid juniper]

If you care about battle mode at all they’ll typically give you all the slayer club demon skins as well

Assuming that mode is extremely dead though

[true heath]

I honestly just want to get the skins and achievements

I'm on switch tho so my battle mode is deader than dead

[upper narwhal]

Who can play 2/3 switch

[polar osprey]

so far i think i just hate small arenas

[rocky portal]

In small arenas its hard to use the meathook, u have to use another strategy without getting cornered

[ruby comet]

Does anybody know if you have to get all the toys before getting the icon of sin toy

[rocky portal]

I dont think so

Ill have to check

[ruby comet]

K because I'm trying to get all the toys and I don't know how many I have left

[rocky portal]

Nvm, u needa get all of em to get it, once u do get all of em u should automatically get it

[ruby comet]

Okay thank you

[rocky portal]

If u got any other questions i think i can answer most

Im stuck on the mars core ultranightmare masterlevel 😭

[ruby comet]

How do I get the toy in front of the divinity machine in taras nabad

[rocky portal]

I forgor what the divinity machine is, the big fall?

Ooh i know

[ruby comet]

On the door where to turn right to leave it's the big machine that is Makyr colored with the seriphim giving doomguy his godly powers

[rocky portal]

I forgot how to get that one, ill have to re check tmr how i got it

[rocky portal]

Yeye ik

[azure oriole]

I'm pretty sure there's a statue you have to punch with a button behind it

Then it'll activate this light pressure plate thing you have to stand on then it'll open the secret

[ruby comet]

That's before the machine also I found it I just can't get it as you have to fall down and punch a wall

[azure oriole]

If you use chrono strike you'll probably have an easier time getting it

[true heath]

Exultia on ultra nightmare on switch is pain

[maiden jungle]

switch players have my utmost respect

[true heath]

Thank you it's hell

[fierce glacier]

Hey can some people help me get the doom eternal online tropies

[hardy flume]

Hi guys, remember when i talked about how the main campaign was hard and boring and other stuff, so I took it serious when u guys said that I wasnt enough good to complete it on UN and after like 100 hours I did it, the only thing that was hard was the cultist base and doom hunter base

[azure oriole]

now do it on un

[terse sparrow]

I have 160 hours on console and cant beat un

[abstract compass]

howdy, Im tring to beat beat Nightmare and then slowly grind UN and master levels. Im looking for guides on how to slowly improve.

[terse sparrow]

I like cynic the originals UN guide

[abstract compass]

thanks, I will look into it

[ruby comet]

If you go down to doomguy's PC you can find on the left screen it has a folder labeled daisy_pics as well as kill_list best_kills_conp rip_and_tear shotgun portraits and collectibles

[graceful current]

fucking hell horde mode sucks dick huh

ive had to restart The Holt like twice due to bugs

there was a random invisible wall on the final area that made me need to restart and now on the traversal round ive just been flung out of the map with no way of return

[minor pumice]

@abstract compass there are some parts of the level which are hard if you don't know how to approach to it. For example, the room with a lot of hell kinghts and whiplashes you need only to use the ballista with the destroyer blade mod and the rockey launcher with remote detonation mod and that room become ez. The last fight you must run, jump and use the BFG

The BFG in that level is life saver

[abstract compass]

cheers

[rocky portal]

ty so much

[olive glacier]

Dude I was replaying tag1 and oh my god samur boss is frustrating

like come on

not one BUT TWO POSSESED HEAVY DEMONS?

https://tenor.com/view/desperate-man-video-games-gif-11438439937201317389

[austere bronze]

i mean, there were arenas with 1 possessed demon along with many normal ones

2 possessed demons isn't worse than that

[olive glacier]

yeah and those were managable

[olive glacier]

add onto that it has constantly alternating platforms

then it summons those eye defenders

https://tenor.com/view/salad-disturb-disruptive-table-table-flip-gif-6183005253937452884

this shit pissing me OFF

[vagrant elbow]

Can someone help me do the multiplayer trophies please

[vernal kayak]

Holt Slayer Gate pre patch was unreal

[polar osprey]

didnt it have 3 archviles or somethin

[vernal kayak]

3 archviles and 2 marauders (1 possessed)

[polar osprey]

fuck

[vernal kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavill-geralt-of-rivia-the-witcher-fuck-gif-15913480

[simple idol]

This boss is shit.

[lilac dirge]

Hilarious that Tag1 features both the hardest and easiest boss of the game

[vernal kayak]

Oh yeah, the eye was a boss

[simple idol]

Tag 1 is a good form to pratice

[lilac dirge]

I genuinely didn’t realise it was until I checked, it actually is one because of the boss marker

[simple idol]

You need to see Master Level of The Word pf spear

[vernal kayak]

The World Spear?

[lilac dirge]

Beaten the whole game and dlcs, haven’t done the master levels yet, I
Should get into that

Sounds good, World Spear is already one of my favourite levels as is

[simple idol]

Yes

This master level sucks

[lilac dirge]

I know the master levels are highly beloved by a lot of players for their difficulty so I’ll see how it goes tomorrow

[graceful current]

The master level for mars core is cool I liked that one

[vernal kayak]

I thought World Spear and Taras Nabad ML were slogs personally

[graceful current]

Especially given the SINGULAR ENCOUNTER that Mars Core plays for lasts AGES so you actually hear the song in game

[lilac dirge]

Eternal has so many great levels man

[austere bronze]

don't start with TWS ML, it's the hardest overall

[vernal kayak]

SGN ML is my favourite

[graceful current]

I thought World Spear and Taras Nabad ML were slogs personally

[austere bronze]

taras nabad master level easily has the hardest encounters, but those are outliers

[vernal kayak]

Zased

[simple idol]

I finished Tara Nabad in the nightmare, but I couldn't get through half of world spear.

[graceful current]

TAG 1 has 3 of my favourite 3 levels in the entire game and TAG 2 has two incredibly mid levels and then ends with a peak one

[lilac dirge]

Something tells me I’m going to get absolutely demolished by all these Levels

[austere bronze]

it only has mid...

[lilac dirge]

Immora looks beautiful, best looking skybox

[simple idol]

Taras nabad and world Spears gonna make you hate The game

[vernal kayak]

They’re really hard. TN’s ||infamous double archvile room|| basically requires BFG and crucible use

[austere bronze]

it definitely doesn't require them

[simple idol]

Omg,how i hate this part

[simple idol]

Require

[austere bronze]

huh?

[simple idol]

Require crusable and bfg

[austere bronze]

it doesn't require the crucible or bfg, or even close to it

[olive glacier]

Dude I remember it was so bad

[fossil quartz]

imma be so real, the dont kill me im too young on eteral is the same as the default for 2016

the jump in difficulty from 2016 to eternal was crazy

[lilac dirge]

2016 is a game where you can just make the entire thing obsolete in difficulty when you have the right things equipped

[simple idol]

For me, Doom 2016 is much harder than Eternal.

[fossil quartz]

yep

[lilac dirge]

Some of those upgrades make 2016-

Nothing

[fossil quartz]

in some spots yea, but for me who is pretty new to the doom games, it was a big jump

from 2016s hurt me plenty to eternals, it was a big spike

cuz i was fighting cacos on the first level, i just barely got good at killing them in 2016 when i swapped to eternal XD

[lilac dirge]

I guess you could argue without the runes then it would be harder, which yeah I’d agree

If yknow, you chose to actively not use them

Which is fair actually

But still

[vernal kayak]

The rune that gives you infinite ammo breaks the game with siege mode

[candid juniper]

Infinite ammo rune

[fossil quartz]

still both peak games tho

[candid juniper]

I choose not to use it

[fossil quartz]

tag is pretty insane too tbh

[candid juniper]

Just got some of the glory kill runes equipped

[lilac dirge]

I’d give 2016 a 10/10, I’d give Eternal an 11/10

[vernal kayak]

I prefer 2016 but Eternal is great

The development history of 2016 is insane

[fossil quartz]

same

personally, i hope the music in dark ages can match 2016 and eternal

[austere bronze]

i'd give eternal a 9/10 and 2016 something a bit lower

[lilac dirge]

Very respectable

[fossil quartz]

as much as love killin demons, the music is the thing that sells the games for me, cuz im a musician and a very big metal head, so it tickled me in the right spots

super gore nest is easily my favorite tune out of eternal

[vernal kayak]

Cultist base for me

[lilac dirge]

Cultist base is an amazing difficulty spike

To me it was the point of the game where I had to think

[fossil quartz]

the clean ambiance part or the heavy fighting music?

[lilac dirge]

I love it for that though, even if it kicked my ass

[dreamy nymph]

Taras Nabad is a great level

[fossil quartz]

cuz i honestly prefer the clean arpeggiated chords XD

[lilac dirge]

I’d say my favourite level of the whole game is probably Arc Complex personally

[dreamy nymph]

Marauder

[graceful current]

icl Hell on Earth is my favourite

[fossil quartz]

my fav level i'd say is the final sin, cuz chasing down the icon is pretty hype

[graceful current]

Hell on Earth is so heavy and it feels the most like a demonic invasion has begun

[fossil quartz]

cuz its like "all right, you see me, i see you, lets tango"

[graceful current]

Hell on Earth makes Doomguy Vs the demons feel like an even match

[fossil quartz]

real

[dreamy nymph]

it's been going on for like 10 years ATLEAST

[oblique topaz]

That was like top 3 for me first playthrough but now it feels like such a drag for some reason

[fossil quartz]

which one was arc complex again?

i do not remember level names too well 😭

[dreamy nymph]

Marauder

[fossil quartz]

ah

[lilac dirge]

Yes

[fossil quartz]

that fight was fun af ngl

[oblique topaz]

Maurader boss and triple whiplash kitchen fight w beserk power up

[lilac dirge]

It’s so hard to pick, Eternal just has some sick arenas

[dreamy nymph]

Taras Nabad is my fav

[fossil quartz]

the rockets near the maurader is a very good way to kill it

it takes a minute, but if you spam them by him it gets him good

[graceful current]

Final Sin and ARC Complex are definitely my favourite levels

[vernal kayak]

Wasn’t there an exploit where you could fuck the marauder over with a grenade in earlier patches?

[unique harness]

Oh, cool. so how well does the narauder fare against remote detonation? I never tried it

[graceful current]

Though UAC Atlantica and Blood Swamps might be my actual favourites now that I think about it lol

[austere bronze]

remote det sucks against him lol

[vernal kayak]

No, I don’t want that!

[austere bronze]

yeah, it was patched out in 1.1
now you gotta do it with lock-on rockets lol

[oblique topaz]

Uac Atlantic my goat

[fossil quartz]

super shotgun and rockets are the best way to kill the maurader ngl

[lilac dirge]

Do people count Nekroval part 1 and 2 as a single level or two

[oblique topaz]

Absolutely goated level

[fossil quartz]

a single tbh

[austere bronze]

there is no best way

[vernal kayak]

One level in two

[lilac dirge]

Ah alright

[vernal kayak]

Super shotgun and ballista spam did the job for me

[graceful current]

i can’t be the only one who feels like kalibas was thrown together last minute right

[fossil quartz]

is that a dlc level?

cuz on the dlc im still on the first level

[graceful current]

the fact they still haven’t patched “CODEX ENTRY - Kalibas” flashing on screen every few seconds is so crazy

[fossil quartz]

im a bit rusty XD i need to do some practice

[graceful current]

No I’m talking abt the brain guy in Nekravol

[fossil quartz]

OH

[graceful current]

🙏 in my top 3 levels fr

[fossil quartz]

real

[graceful current]

I love UAC Atlantica it feels so awesome to play

[fossil quartz]

fr

[vernal kayak]

Blood Swamps is my jam

[fossil quartz]

i love the whole premise of the dlc, its a saved earth, but your going back across the galaxy to kick some davoth ass

[lilac dirge]

My friend hates Blood Swamps

But man it’s such an amazing time

[graceful current]

I’ve seen a lot of people complain that the dlc ost relies to much on heavy metal chugging but icl that’s kind of exactly how it feels playing those levels like it is a STRUGGLE moving forward

[fossil quartz]

FR

[graceful current]

the huge arenas and the wolf segments are the peak of Eternal for me

[fossil quartz]

i be listening to immora while doing school on a dialy

[graceful current]

IMMORA IS AWESOMEEEE

[fossil quartz]

IT SOUNDS LIKE ONE BY METALLICA IN SOME SPOTS

[vernal kayak]

It’s gimmicky but the level design sold it for me

[polar osprey]

uac atlanta : best level (imo)
the holt : hardest level (period)

[graceful current]

the holt was pretty hard yeah

[fossil quartz]

like deadass in the choir parts immora was giving me heavy metallica vibes with the chuggin

[polar osprey]

iirc it was the hardest level

[graceful current]

Blood Swamps was pretty hard

[fossil quartz]

is it okay to send a youtube link here to my fav version of immora?

[graceful current]

Specifically the arena with the possessed Baron

[polar osprey]

like it reached or was very close to the enemy limit of 31

[lilac dirge]

I love all the gimmicks, choosing which path to do first, the aoe forcefield arenas

I swear the dlcs are the only time the purple goo felt tolerable

[graceful current]

i don’t see why not

[fossil quartz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtWyHR8ffI

[graceful current]

The master levels has one really good use of purple goo

In the Mars Core one

[fossil quartz]

purple goo my beloved 😩

[vernal kayak]

So true. Favourite aesthetic from Eternal as well

[fossil quartz]

anything purple is peak

purple is my fav color ngl XD

[graceful current]

This is why prowlers are the goat

[fossil quartz]

yes

[graceful current]

and also The Holt

[fossil quartz]

I WONDER IF THEY GOT THE IDEA FROM SPIDERMAN CUZ HES PURPLE AND TALL

like the prowler villain

[lilac dirge]

Only similarity I can think of is the purple tbh

[fossil quartz]

well and them both being kinda taller

[graceful current]

and claws :P

[lilac dirge]

How could I forget

[graceful current]

Ngl I don’t hate Spirits that’s my controversial hot take

Cursed Prowlers and Stone Imps are so bleh tho I hate them

[lilac dirge]

I don’t hate them, I hate how you can only kill them with one weapon

[austere bronze]

i also like them, they're fun and well designed enemies

[austere bronze]

all tag2 demons are bleh xd

[graceful current]

I don’t really mind that :(

[vernal kayak]

This

[graceful current]

Armoured Barons are… okay… I guesss

[austere bronze]

lucky for you, they can die in more ways!

[graceful current]

Demonic Troopers are funny so they get a pass

[lilac dirge]

Spirits?

[austere bronze]

at the end of arenas, if they're the only demon left, they automatically die

[lilac dirge]

Oh

[vernal kayak]

When the enemy is unfinished

Bottom text

[austere bronze]

completely broken enemy

their mace will literally not register your hits sometimes

[graceful current]

when the dlc is unfinished

[polar osprey]

fucker is frozen
regenerates shield anyways

[graceful current]

The mace is dumb because it’s like “shoot it when it turns green” but it actually means “Use heavy cannon or ballista”

You can’t just super shotty it

[lilac dirge]

Most of the dlc enemies are just really bad

I don’t think I even like any of them besides the Blood Makyrs and the Screamer

Or screecher

[polar osprey]

well tbh thats also the case with the marauder and the gladiator

[graceful current]

Blood Makyrs… ugh… okay I hate them

[austere bronze]

i haven't had him actually regen his shield while being frozen, but the sound and animation does continue playing

[polar osprey]

aint hard to deal with, just more annoying maykr drones

[austere bronze]

nah they're also good enemies

[vernal kayak]

Screeches were unique

[lilac dirge]

Screecher is honestly one I wouldn’t mind if it was in the base game, yeah it’s super simple but I really dig the mechanic

[vernal kayak]

Chain gunners…exist

[graceful current]

Oh my other controversial take is that while I would’ve liked Davoth to be more unique I also find him fun in the current state

[polar osprey]

fuck them

[lilac dirge]

….i totally forgot

[austere bronze]

screechers are boring enemies that's 1 dimensional and antithetical to eternal's gameplay loop imo

[polar osprey]

easy to deal with in theory, pain in the ass in reality

[vernal kayak]

They lost their hitscan skills 😭

[austere bronze]

and broken!

[graceful current]

They’re good enemies I just hate them cause they’re scary lol, it’s a diff kind of hate to smth like the cursed prowler which is just bad

[graceful current]

Also I didn’t realise you could always hammer away the fake demons at any time and not just when you hit Davoth so… Nightmare was fun…

[austere bronze]

i love when the screechers kills itself or when it makes other demons attack it instead of me

[lilac dirge]

It can kill itself?

[austere bronze]

by pathing failure, yes

[lilac dirge]

That’s- really stupid

[graceful current]

marauders kinda suck they really should’ve patched the friendly fire thing

[polar osprey]

didnt know screechers were based off twitter users

[vernal kayak]

They are called screechers after all

[austere bronze]

i generally like them, but the friendly fire thing should've been patched for sure

[polar osprey]

mods dothat

[graceful current]

like I like marauders other than the fact that they summon the fucking doom rpg hellhound if an imp accidentally throws its stupid fucking fireball at them

[polar osprey]

well tbh the hound is very easy to deal with so

[graceful current]

Yeah it’s just annoying

[lilac dirge]

Marauder is a really good enemy

Issue is once you work out the loop to kill him, it just turns into him doing 2 moves

[graceful current]

Also they put the shield up too I think

Marauders are not that hard once you get to tag tho you just gotta get one hammer on them and then spam all your weapons

[polar osprey]

"HRAAAH"
marauder_dazed.mp3
"HRAAAH"
marauder_dazed.mp3
*marauder_death.mp3

[lilac dirge]

Standard fight with him

[vernal kayak]

He’s boring to fight

Archviles make my blood spike

[polar osprey]

archviles? more like public enemy number one

[austere bronze]

disagreed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmAT3aAONIA

[graceful current]

now that I have discovered that the true purpose of freeze bombs is to then go into a destroyer blade I love that mod

absolutely decimates most groups now

[lilac dirge]

You blasted him with so much damage it froze my video-

[austere bronze]

loll

[lilac dirge]

Amazing stuff

[polar osprey]

"HRAAAH"
gets hit by doomguy's entire arsenal

[graceful current]

Archviles honestly aren’t too hard to deal with

though I guess no enemy in the game really is on their own

it’s more about the fact you’re being scratched to death by 500 other enemies while trying to take out the Archvile

[vernal kayak]

Depends if you have the crucible

[austere bronze]

yup, the mod is amazing
you can also charge it in the air and stuff

[lilac dirge]

He’s a really good threat at all times, he may not be extremely difficult but killing him is essential

[graceful current]

Ehhhhh

Hammer and chaingun is enough for me

TAG 1 though the situation is dire </3

[lilac dirge]

I thought the hammer was going to be a worse crucible

Turns out I was hella wrong

Never thought I’d ever feel bad for using a weapon on the demons

[austere bronze]

best super weapon in the game lol

it's so good it even ruins core game mechanics!

[graceful current]

Hammer is so much better than Crucible

[lilac dirge]

Its sickening, it feels like a violation at times

[graceful current]

By the end of Eternal I got so sick of all of the cutscenes you gotta sit through

[polar osprey]

shit is a stun bomb

flashbang and chainsaw

[graceful current]

Hammer feels way better in that regard

[polar osprey]

also instakills all fodder iirc

[austere bronze]

yeah i never use the hammer, instead i use the sentinel axe mod, which turns it into a completely new, interesting and balanced weapon

[polar osprey]

perfectly balanced

[austere bronze]

yup, it deals 800 damage with 100x damage against fodder lol

[lilac dirge]

Imagine if that was the weapon you unlocked for all the slayer gates instead of the Unmakyr

(That’s a joke, but my god The Unmakyr getting replaced as the unlockable weapon isn’t one)

[austere bronze]

there are also mods that nerf the hammer, but it's infinitely more fun to use the sentinel axe imo

[vernal kayak]

At least they’re skippable unlike 2016

[polar osprey]

fun fact : the carcass counts as a fodder in the code iirc

[austere bronze]

yup, and prowler

[vernal kayak]

I think I used the unmakyr exactly once in my playthrough and it was by complete accident

Melted an archvile

[polar osprey]

so hitting them with the hammer and the dblade weapon mod kills both of these instantly

[austere bronze]

yes

[polar osprey]

even if possessed or..

empowered and stuff

[austere bronze]

yes

[polar osprey]

oh fuck i remembered that the next arena i gotta go through has an escalation event from kaisercampaign, which lets you play in a severely aids version of the remnant drone arena

ik the encounter is optional but i lowkey wanna try it

[lilac dirge]

I don’t know what went through their heads

the fact it shares the BFGS ammo which is sparse so using it even for a single bullet wastes one of your very powerful shots

the fact it’s idea of singling out a single super heavy/heavy target to kill compared to a single shot from the BFG killing all fodder demons and killing or critically injuring heavy demons is a frankly awful reason to switch to it

It was cool when you had unlimited ammo with haste

Keyword being had

[austere bronze]

and they went out of their way to give some enemies and bosses a resistance towards the unmaykr too😭

[vernal kayak]

Funny Doom 64 reference

Waste of a slot really

[lilac dirge]

Unmakyr just has so many problems, the fact that even making it that you don’t use the BFG still doesn’t make it good says a lot

[austere bronze]

it's the only thing that's actually useless in eternal 😭

[graceful current]

Nah I meant stuff like the chainsaw, glory kill, crucible, etc

Hammer isn’t like those so I like it more

[graceful current]

i kinda like it

[vernal kayak]

Ah gotcha

[lilac dirge]

Man you know that cool weapon you spent trying to get all those keys to unlock and obtain that is solely used for focusing single large targets and killing them immediately?

Wanna know what would be funny? If we introduced a weapon that focuses on killing single large targets the level right after you unlock it

That would be funny

So funny

[graceful current]

no cutscene tho soo

unmaykr wins

[lilac dirge]

Dang

[graceful current]

idk I like unmaykr for like Archviles and Tyrants specifically

purely because I find it more satisfying to use mind you

[lilac dirge]

Oh it’s fun to use, that’s the one thing I’ll give it, it feels powerful, it looks incredible, the way to unlock is straight up perfect

Just a shame it’s outclassed by a sword that does the exact the same thing with no need to waste bfg ammo

The slayer gates are some of the coolest challenges as well, so I’ll give praise for that too

[austere bronze]

yeah it's well balanced.. but outclassed

[graceful current]

I don’t really like BFG ammo as a mechanic tbh even tho I get how it is necessary

i just find myself never really using it cause IK the next bit of ammo is ages away

that might be why I use the unmaykr a lot just cause with 30 ammo I can squeeze out more heavy enemy kills and then save the last 30 for a BFG shot if I need to

[lilac dirge]

That’s fair, it’s an inherently intentionally strong utility made to get you out of a situation

Nothing wrong with choosing to use the Unmakyr over it because of the BFG is too powerful

[graceful current]

For me it’s like

I COULD use 30 BFG ammo to kill this Archvile

Orrr I could kill it with the unmaykr and have some ammo left to shoot at like a tyrant or smth if it spawns

[austere bronze]

or you could use a BFG, wipe out almost the entire arena, ssg and rocket the archvile ones to kill him too

[graceful current]

yeah but then the tyrant spawns afterwards and I have no BFG ammo

[austere bronze]

a single tyrant is chill

[graceful current]

If the entire arena was flooded with demons I’m whipping out the BFG obviously

[graceful current]

Yeaa but I can kill him faster with the unmaykr :)

[polar osprey]

anyone know when you get to go to the doom base in kaisercampaign?

[faint ingot]

you can kill it faster and cheaper with crucible

[spring panther]

you never go to it at any point excluding for the khan maykr sabotage part

[polar osprey]

aw fuck

hoped it wasnt the case, but thanks

ill make sure to do absolutely everything i can in terms of secrets and shit before that

[spring panther]

if you pay attention there are quite a bit of secrets left in by the modder

including silly stuff and secret levels

[polar osprey]

yeah ik u can get ur whole arsenal in cultist base, the third level 💀

and also 4 weapons in the first level

[spring panther]

the cars in super gore nest spin at 15 times their normal speed

[polar osprey]

yeah i saw a video raitro made on kaisercampaign

[spring panther]

but the fact that you can still upgrade your arsenal even further in the mod shows how difficult it is

[polar osprey]

oh btw, i saw kaiser had an empowered plasma gun and minigun in doom hunter base, but even in his dev playthroughs i couldnt find what activated these

[hardy flume]

i did bro thats what im saying

[polar osprey]

so inspirational

[hardy flume]

fr

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-21368800

[true heath]

Worth it

[rugged flax]

I have stolen this

[true heath]

Also I'm about to kill icon on nightmare on switch, ultra nightmare is next

[hardy flume]

nice

[true heath]

Haha I'm gonna get my ass beat by cultist base

[rugged flax]

fr

[true heath]

Like last time I tried this I had just beaten dlc 2 on HMP

And I died 20 times on stage one

[rugged flax]

damn

[true heath]

Then I got to exultia and the first hell knight is an asshole

Especially when you decide to skip plasma rifle until mars core

[rugged flax]

y

[true heath]

Cuz funny

[rugged flax]

nuh uhhh

[worn terrace]

so i put in the cassette tape for Steam. Now what? Music somewhere?

im bad at this shit

[azure oriole]

from the collector's edition?

[worn terrace]

yes

[azure oriole]

Steam will only give you 2016's ost

You have to submit a ticket to bethesda asking for Eternal's ost

That you have the code from the collector's edition and they will give it to you

[worn terrace]

thsi si from the Eternal CE. There is a code on it, the code was accepted

but nothing happened

[azure oriole]

i know and like i said if you introduced the code on steam it will only give you Doom 2016's ost

[worn terrace]

ugh okay. What a hot mess

[hardy flume]

bro after completing the cultist base and doom hunter base u dont even need to practise on N like super gore nest or like ARC, they will be much easier with all weapons, the only thing i recommend u is prectise the final sin mission, a bit hard but the others will be easy

Has someone bought the Doom Dark Ages?

[azure oriole]

DOOM: The Dark Ages*

[hardy flume]

u here to correct me`?

[spring panther]

cultist base is the hardest part of the entire run

once you get past it its way easier

[hardy flume]

doom hunter too i would say

[spring panther]

doom hunters are batshit easy

[hardy flume]

ig for u, took me time to complete it

then just in 1 hour came to final sin, and afetr that practised like 2 hours

[spring panther]

quick swapping between precision bolt and ssg in phase 1 then lobbing on 2nd is a strategy

[hardy flume]

then boom, game beaten

[hardy flume]

I did the PB and RL

[spring panther]

and if you want to use glitches for future bosses the chaingun shield bulldozer glitch makes every boss excluding khan maykr and icon of sin trivial

[hardy flume]

prob will never fight against them anymore

[spring panther]

this also makes samur trivial if you do tag1 un

[hardy flume]

Im about to complete the game like 100%, all ML, three campaign, and now did 49 of 50 achivement

[kind basin]

New under the mayo doom eternal vid

"10 things I hate"

[hardy flume]

is it good?

[spring panther]

1: ultrakill

[hardy flume]

the video

[kind basin]

It's authentic, he actually voices criticisms

Mostly story related

[azure oriole]

10 things I hate about Eternal's lore

[hardy flume]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-women-grind-eternal-gif-5810360160610546452

[azure oriole]

who cares about Eternal's bad lore

[spring panther]

that one lore nerd

[hardy flume]

FR

[kind basin]

It's been done but it's so tda won't have the same fate

[azure oriole]

speak about bad gameplay mechanics

or the excesive use of traffic light enemies

[hardy flume]

Only doom hunter and marauder

[spring panther]

under the mayo when ultrakill

[vernal kayak]

red light green light

[graceful current]

Yeah that would probably be most my complaints too💔

[young mango]

It’s possible for khan maykr but her hitbox doesn’t exactly cooperate

[true heath]

I feel like Taras and Mars will be my hardest missions besides cultist and DHB

Cuz most of my deaths have been because I get corner locked

[stone spear]

Yo. I just did a Hurt Me Plenty, modified Brawler mode. It was awesome. My skills have improved greatly. I used to have trouble with beating the DLC on Ultra Violence. But I’m going to play Immora later and it will be fun. I play on Xbox, with the good old reliable controller. So I could be better.

[vernal kayak]

Good luck fren

[hardy flume]

i think u played to much the ML cuz its like no encounetrs there except the last one before going to sentinel prime, taras nabad isnt hard too i would say

[stone spear]

Thanks bro. Hope your pillow cold tonight

[azure oriole]

Remember what mayo said
Its not longer brawler mode if you change even the slightest thing

[stone spear]

Right.

[hardy flume]

u can do it, i belive in u, only 3 hard levels, the last and cultist base with DHB

[true heath]

I haven't played the ML yet

[stone spear]

You know I just don’t think I could do it without playing on the easiest difficulty

[hardy flume]

ohh, then dont worry the mars core wont be hard

[true heath]

And gladiator consistently kicks my ass I had to use sentinel armor to get past him on nightmare

[hardy flume]

the master level, ye thats something else

[stone spear]

I had to use sentinel armor for almost every boos fight on my first play through

[hardy flume]

big marauder with long range attack just use booster and it will be okay

[hardy flume]

u will learn and become better

[true heath]

Ouch

[hardy flume]

while i gotta kill 200 enemys in battle mode thats hella hard

[young mango]

Don’t know if you necessarily care but this is something I like to clear up for a lot of people. Sentinel armor is way too OP, it will dramatically reduce the damage you take, so much so that Nightmare damage will be reduced all the way to ITYTD damage. So basically 20% of your current difficulties damage scaling

[hardy flume]

he trying beat him with armor, then he will become better and wont be in need to use armor

[stone spear]

So I’ve been playing like 3 years now. It’s been a time, my recent play through my modified Rules for Brawler mode, was the hardest thing I’ve ever done.

[hardy flume]

what is even Brawler mode

[stone spear]

Look up Under the Mayo on YT. You’ll learn. It’s fun!

[true heath]

Wow

[hardy flume]

ohh like that downloaded content like a mod

[terse sparrow]

Hell on earth is so fucking annoying

[stone spear]

There is a PC mode. But you can set it up on console easy. It’s just a bunch of weapon restrictions and can’t use certain mods. Things like that

[hardy flume]

hahahahaha thats so real

[hardy flume]

ohh hell nah i def wouldt survive long

[terse sparrow]

Istg every time i want to tru a un run i imagine hell on earth and turn off my ps5

[hardy flume]

the thing that u have no runes, guns, booster ahahah

[stone spear]

Real!!

[hardy flume]

suffering while waiting for a battle mode that i will lose again and do no kills

okay bye guys match starts

[frosty yoke]

The only thing I hate is Mars Core after you shot "a hole into the surface mars". Jumping from a debris platform to another is boring and the tentacles facility part is just annoying

[terse sparrow]

Battlemode is fun its just one sided and rlly dead

I like mars core, its a fun difficulty spike and the second proof of worthiness that u can beat un

[frosty yoke]

Of course not, you just have to have a mate and you can win but it's like that if you don't get against a random with 3 thousand hours of playtime.

[terse sparrow]

Theres this guy called like patryssj13

He used to torture me

[azure oriole]

torture him back

[terse sparrow]

He has like 8 golden stars on his profile

Thats apoarently like 30 prestiges or smtg

[hardy flume]

THE ONLY THING THAT IS FUNNY WITH BATTLE MODE IS, if u got a NORMAL teammate and if ur not playing against Raitro_ with 3000k hours with 4 golden stars

i won the battle with 3 kills no way ahahah

[young mango]

IMO mars core is the tamest level in the game proportionate to your arsenal and upgrades

[frosty yoke]

I don't play on Ultra Nightmare, I was just saying about how the Mars asteroids part is boring, I like the Phobos part

[terse sparrow]

Oh

[hardy flume]

if i get like 10 kills per day then it will take my 9 days to finish my achivement 200 enemy kills

and then the game will be completed 100%

in like 400hours

[terse sparrow]

All i have left in eternal is the ultra nightmare campaigns and argentas paladi

[hardy flume]

u have all 50 achivement?

[terse sparrow]

And argentas paladi is glitched so i wont get it

[azure oriole]

thanks id

[frosty yoke]

I agree, the only cool thing are the cinematics with the BFG firing and the Slayer's badass moments

[terse sparrow]

57/80 milestones when i have 129 of them

[graceful current]

you don’t even get to fire the BFG yourself

[hardy flume]

no no, game achivements

like on steam

[terse sparrow]

I play on playstation and i have platinum

[hardy flume]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-ancient-gods-part2-doom-eternal-davoth-dark-lord-doom-gif-20875444

[frosty yoke]

Yeah, global virus dev issues. I'm sure that the devs would have polished the game way more without that

[young mango]

No shade to the devs, but one of the funniest things they’ve done is patch in a softlock. I don’t recall specifically what caused it, but it involved killing an enemy before another wave spawned in in nek 2. In older patches the waves would progress as normal when all the fodder were killed, but on current patch they infinitely respawn instead

[terse sparrow]

Maybe there could have been a cool bfg minigame like the revenant drone

[azure oriole]

they had two years

or more

and they also delayed the game

[austere bronze]

why not just do custom difficulties and randomizers instead of brawler mode😭
if you're on pc at least

[frosty yoke]

Speaking of softlock, a prowler spawned behind the gate that leeds to the Crucible energy pool in Taras Nabad, I had to wait for fodders to spawn to open the gate

[oblique topaz]

?

pretty easy level

[azure oriole]

now do it on un

[stone spear]

I’m a console guy

[azure oriole]

k

[hardy flume]

guys, did one of u already buy doom dark ages

and what do u think about it, like all the demons in trailer and the weapons

[golden latch]

So I'm guessing the first event items are unobtainable again

Since I did have them on my xBox account

and does anyone know what event repeat is on this time :)

[gray rivet]

Gladiator was super tough for me at first. Just practice him by playing sentinel prime over and over and you'll get it down

[terse sparrow]

Gladiator and Cultist Base are UN killers

[gray rivet]

I've never made it past cultist base on UN 😭

[true heath]

I've only made it to exultia twice on un

[terse sparrow]

I cant make it past the final cultist base arena and the gladiator i have fought on nightmare, its not nice

[azure oriole]

Was playing world spear ML in classic mode, I noticed that if you pick up a weapon mod, it'll equip the non-upgraded version

I noticed this when I tried to microwave a cyber mancubus

You can just unequip and equip it again to fix it though

[tidal fox]

ngl I think doom on Xbox is harder than pc, because of how slow it is to switch weapons, like I've tried un twice and never got further than hell on earth

[true basin]

I finished like doom eternal on my ps4

I can totally say that doom eternal is built for pc

it feels more fluid

[tidal fox]

oh yeah I 100% it on Xbox on the easiest game mode, but it's definitely built for pc

[true basin]

yeah yeah

[azure oriole]

Ultra nightmare is very much doable on consoles

[true basin]

I imagine it takes a lot of practice with the weapon wheel

[azure oriole]

It can help for sure, but quick switching isn't necessarily the be all end all for UN

[stone spear]

I do console. I’m able to quick switch. I put SSG on Y, and Ballista on LS. It works for my play style. And I’ve mastered meathook tech as best I can for controller. And just pressing your weapon wheel button will switch to the last weapon used that has ammo.

[azure oriole]

I recently put rocket launcher on left d-pad but I keep forgetting it's even there

[stone spear]

During my modified Brawler mode. I tried putting stuff on the D-pad. But it didn’t stick. Just keep using the weapon wheel. Get super good at it and then keep experimenting.

[graceful current]

i beat horde mode 💪 so awesome

would've beaten it ages ago but i got softlocked twice :P

[polar osprey]

do you have any idea how cracked console players can be

https://youtu.be/B0zqciiyUBU?si=OHo0__MdYsXfrN8f&t=27

https://youtu.be/SxFRIcTvyKw tips to improve?

(video is unlisted)

oh fuck the sound is doubled

should be fixed next time i record

i know to use more weapons

[graceful current]

how on earth do you have the hammer

oh wait this isnt the regular campaign 😭

[young mango]

I didn’t even question anything tbh

I was just like “cultist base ML looks a bit different today”

[torn wyvern]

focus on using all abilities like frags, ice and fire,, if anything else than that just work with your reaction time (by just playing more to be faster)

[austere bronze]

that tyrant waveblast curving to hit you is egregious lmao

but my input would be this:
use your equipment more, like Feliks pointed out.
you should also focus more on dashing since you don't have the meathook, preferably single dashes, as doing double dashes is 13% slower (if you're travelling far enough to require many dashes). double dashes should be reserved for getting out of specific spots and reaching some place. jumping a lot in this arena is probably slightly bad, for 2 reasons. jumping doesn't make you avoid projectiles in this case, as very few will be at your feet, but quite a bit will be above you. and, if you jump then dash, you will be able to dash less (as your dash recharges before you land) which is your best movement tool before the meathook.
you should also work on your spatial/enemy awareness. you walked back into enemies, and went too close to them.

[torn wyvern]

damn that is alot more specific lol

[austere bronze]

it's of course hard for me to see, but you should maybe think about if you wanna lower sensitivity
and try to not use the weapon wheel at all

[torn wyvern]

i feel like weapon wheel removes that good feeling of doom

like not doom as game but like
doom
chaos

and not using it allows you also to think even faster

[polar osprey]

i do have the meathook, im on kaisercampaign

also yeah i thought that was bullshit

the tyrant blast

[austere bronze]

then you should use that much more

single best movement tool

[polar osprey]

yeah

im lowkey planning on using keybinds and shit

instead of WW

[austere bronze]

ye

[polar osprey]

i felt it also makes quickswapping better

[torn wyvern]

i have balista and minigun on my mouse buttons

[polar osprey]

qezxc

i can change all of those, also m4 and m5

[torn wyvern]

shotgun on 1 but super shotgun on f1

[young mango]

A broader piece of advice I’d like to make, better offense would be better as well. Don’t know what specifically I’d advise but sticky spam isn’t optimal

[torn wyvern]

yea

[polar osprey]

i know i noticed that in the moment

[austere bronze]

never heard anyone use any of the f- keys before xd

[drifting herald]

I've always wondered what would happen if (spoilers) ||doom slayer was stuck in that demons body, would he just accept his fate or go kill demons while stuck in a demon?||

[polar osprey]

and i aint gonna do that either

[polar osprey]

i got all those keybinds i can think of atm

f and r

7 keys for weapons, probably good enough for all the really important stuff

[torn wyvern]

yeaaaaaaa im kinda cooked

lmao

[polar osprey]

OOH i thought of something good, can i use the scroll wheel to swap weapon mods and grenades?

as in the actual scrolling,

middle click is bomb, m5 m4 gonna be between belch and bloodpunch

[austere bronze]

loll
what even made you come up with the idea??

[polar osprey]

gonna use alt for the hammer ig

[austere bronze]

absolutely, the scroll wheel is often used for stuff like that

i'd recommend saving either scroll up or down for jump however

[polar osprey]

fuck yeah

[austere bronze]

bind mwheelup _jump

very good for bhops

[polar osprey]

i dont really wanna do bhops or anything

i can just time it myself on the spacebar and stuff

[hushed arch]

is there some french guy to play doom eternal ?

[torn wyvern]

1 for shotgun so i move my finger bit up and i have double barrel

[fierce glacier]

I was so stupid back
In 2021

I had to suffer and play doom eternal on max difficulty with no upgrades cause I didn’t know how to get them

[graceful current]

Dude what

[polar osprey]

https://imgur.com/a/pgOoCq0 current setup

changed some stuff

[true heath]

He already did that in cultist base he just starts killing them while in a revenant

[polar osprey]

he said what if he got stuck

like no longer was able to get out of the revenants body

[true heath]

Well either he kills himself or he just starts a rampage again

[graceful current]

he’d probably kill as many demons as he could in that body and then kill himself

technically the Revenant body can work the super shotgun right? I mean he holds it :P

[polar osprey]

well, not really, no

he was holding it but very shaky

they cant really hold anything, they are modified humans with their bones enlarged and lengthened to fuck

their muscles and tendons are barely holdon on, even their head muscles are barely there

[true heath]

Y'know I keep forgetting doomguy uses guns cuz he likes guns

[polar osprey]

yeah, he was a marine

punched the guy in charge in the face becuase he told him to shoot innocent people, then was migrated to mars

[true heath]

Valid reasoning

[polar osprey]

holy fuck the keybinds are hard to get used to

[frosty yoke]

Playing with different rendering effects is cool, I am currently using VHS for my Ultra Violence playthrough

[sturdy cosmos]

Any PS5 players here? Needed help with the multiplayer trophies. Happy to help others get theirs too

[polar osprey]

alright i just cant focus with a keybind for everything, im gonna just go back to using the normal ones

[austere bronze]

your skill will take an immediate dip when getting keybinds, but it'll be well worth it pretty fast

[polar osprey]

problem is i wanna do the escalation encounter for the revenant encounter from kaisercampaign (lets you get into the arena and becomes harder) but my god is it hard to do stuff

as in, its gonna be even more horrible with the kbs

[stone spear]

I just beat Tag 2 on Ultra Violence! On console. We built different.

[young mango]

Nice

[stoic juniper]

yo is it worth going over for the toys in an ultra nightmare run?

like do they give you an power up if you collect them all or sth

[azure oriole]

No they don't give any sort of gameplay bonus

[true heath]

Nah they just nice to have

[slow sigil]

they give you a mental health bonus

[stoic juniper]

i fuckin died to the imps bro i cant

i always die to stupid reasons i have completed both the dlc and the master levels on ultra nightmare

but i die on the campaign

[azure oriole]

emotional support bonus

[rugged flax]

on what console, I'm on ps5

[stone spear]

Xbox