doom-eternal

[ember plinth]

ik i already changed the pucnh to f

WHAT IS THAT

THAT THING IS MASSIVE

RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST ROOM

[plucky adder]

George

[ember plinth]

is he a boss this seems like foreshadowing

[plucky adder]

nah he's friendly

[ember plinth]

THEY REMOVED FALL DAMAGE

LETS GO

how bad did they nerf the punch jeez

i liked killing the possesed in like 2 punches

[orchid latch]

Yeah dw you get a form of it later

[ember plinth]

oooo alrightt

[violet zealot]

basically, y'charge up that punch and it sends a shockwave on hit

well, when you get what Thomas is talking about

[ember plinth]

oh fuck yes

please dont spoil anything

all i know is the ||icon of sin, the final boss of tag 2 and maurader||

[austere bronze]

no, it's good

the dps is high, but ammo consumption us too, but with the mastery you can get free shells with it

you get 9 shells back if you kill a superheavy with it, making it an excellent combo finisher

[ember plinth]

the ammo supply is tight compared to 2016 will i be able to upgrade it to the same level of ammo i had in 2016 or is it intentional to use the chainsaw more

[ember plinth]

ooooo thats sick

[violet zealot]

I never had ammo issues in Eternal, especially mid-late game

y'get to use the chainsaw way too often imo

[ember plinth]

i used the heavy assault rifle for like 2 seconds and its already low on ammo lol

[full meadow]

I stopped playing after unlocking the 1st weapon mod and taking damage in the next battle where monsters fight each other.

[ember plinth]

WAIT I JUST REALISED THERE ARE SUBTITLES THAT WAS THE ONE THING I WAS MISSING FROM 2016

[ember plinth]

the demons fought each other in 2016 too

[orchid latch]

There's subtitles in 2016 isn't there???

[ember plinth]

there was?

[austere bronze]

it's intentional, you gotta chainsaw, and manage ammo

[orchid latch]

Probably or my dumbass wouldn't be able to understand half the shit Samuel says

[ember plinth]

the double jump being unlocked right of the bat and pistol being gone is so nice

[ember plinth]

i didnt i had spotify on like 90% of the playthrough

[plucky adder]

1 damage

[ember plinth]

fuck samuel he stole my cool sword

[orchid latch]

That's actually so real and based of you.

[ember plinth]

how much damage does a possesed (or wtv the weakest enemy is called now) have

[azure oriole]

its funny because nobody noticed how on the teasers for Eternal the ammount of ammo you could carry would decrease over time
From having almost the same ammo limit from 2016 to barely having any ammo now

[plucky adder]

About the same I believe

Nightmare doubles their damage I think

[austere bronze]

zombie/imp, they got 200 hp each

[ember plinth]

idk how health works in numbers in this game i just shoot

[plucky adder]

Lmao fair

[ember plinth]

oh damn

[ember plinth]

the game told me to rip and tear not calculate and divide

another problem i had with 2016 is how big damage sponges bigger stunned enemies were if you didnt wanna glory kill does eternal fix that or does it still force you to glorykill

[austere bronze]

you absolutely don't have to GK

unless you're low on HP, it's literally bad

you wanna avoid it if it's not necessary

[ember plinth]

was it like that in 2016 too or am i just schizo

THE HEAVY ASSUALT RIFLE HAS TO RELOAD EXCUSE ME????

i just wanted a normal ads 😭

[plucky adder]

How so

Like the precision bolt?

[ember plinth]

yeah

it seems to do more damage now tho

[plucky adder]

It does way more damage

[plucky adder]

Ye

[ember plinth]

oh sick is it actually more viable to use against big demons?

[plucky adder]

Usually yea

[ember plinth]

why do some demons bleed blue

[austere bronze]

pb isn't viable against big demons, the dps is very low, use micro missiles in that case

unless you quick switch to cancel animations, then pb is your bread and butter xd

[azure oriole]

cuz cacodemons bled blue on og Doom

dont know why arachnotrons blood is blue tho

[plucky adder]

Cacodemons have always bled blue, idk why they changed it for arachnotrons tho

[violet zealot]

Except in 2016

and I think 3 and 64?

[plucky adder]

Oh really? Interesting

[harsh hull]

Hello

[azure oriole]

wish barons bled green again

[austere bronze]

hai

[harsh hull]

Have you guys realized that doom slayer never bled in a game

[violet zealot]

Doom 1, 2, and Final Doom:

[azure oriole]

thats doomguy

[violet zealot]

they're literally the same person

[fringe torrent]

D64 too

Quake Champions

[azure oriole]

I know but he wasnt a “god” at that time

[fringe torrent]

Maybe Quake III? Not sure

[azure oriole]

the slayer has a ton of scars on his body tho

[violet zealot]

Oh yeah, not to mention in Eternal it's quite literally mentioned they have a blood sample of the Slayer

[harsh hull]

No beacause doom guy is weaker than doom slayer

[fringe torrent]

They are still the same person

If a guy goes to the gym is he an entirely new person just because he is stronger?

[azure oriole]

yes

[harsh hull]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-guy-shotgun-gif-27413588

[austere bronze]

yeah, you wouldn't know because you sit on your couch and eat chips all day

[azure oriole]

iirc he bleds on the death animations

Im mean obviously he does

[fringe torrent]

Last time I had chips was like half a year ago

[austere bronze]

wow, impressive

[fringe torrent]

That is misinformation clearly

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-green-goblin-green-goblin-spider-gif-23076015

[austere bronze]

correction:
you sit on your couch and play spiderman games all day

[fringe torrent]

Closer

I sit on an office chair which is literally falling apart because it's ancient

[harsh hull]

But who is the strongest out of all the doom games

[austere bronze]

just like you

match made in heaven

[austere bronze]

me probably

[azure oriole]

Freddy Fazbear

[fringe torrent]

Physically? Slayer. Weaponry included? Probably RoEguy

[harsh hull]

Physical

[fringe torrent]

Give original Doomguy a berserk pack without finishing the level he will shred the Slayer up

[harsh hull]

But doom guy didn’t kill his creator

[fringe torrent]

Do you want him to kill his mother or something lol

[azure oriole]

davoth is a bitch

[fringe torrent]

That doesn't really change things

[nimble marten]

anyone know how to change up the map UI color if that's possible?

[nimble marten]

a bitch who created everything ever
including god

sadly
that makes slayer just that strong
even if davoth was fighting "ceremoniously"

[azure oriole]

Still he's weak

asf

[nimble marten]

as a boss yea
lore wise nah

[fringe torrent]

Davoth was weakened, Slayer taking him out does not mean anything

It's like Tyson v. Paul

Paul didn't beat Mike Tyson, he beat an old retired man

[azure oriole]

we are talking about literal gods

[fringe torrent]

The Slayer didn't kill Davoth in his prime, he killed him when he was weakened

[nimble marten]

killing a weakened god is still killing a god yk

davoth wasn't like a 0.1% battery iPhone or anything
dude was still pretty mf strong

[fringe torrent]

He was weaker than the Slayer still

[kind basin]

Doom slayer casually staying up in the air while doomguy can't jump

[nimble marten]

anyways
UAC UI > all ui
i wish we could have 2016's map ui format :(

[harsh hull]

That’s kratos vs Zeus

[fringe torrent]

What does it matter if you kill a god if the god in question is made of toothpicks lol

[austere bronze]

surely, then an extremely mid mech would be a disadvantage?

[fringe torrent]

I like the white UI, whatever it is

[austere bronze]

pink UI >> everything else

[fringe torrent]

Doomguy maintaining Berserk while Slayer can't

[azure oriole]

then gods on doom lore are pathetic as hell

[kind basin]

Doom slayer mogging normal cyberdemons while doomguy struggling with one

[nimble marten]

maybe?
I'm not there yet but yeah
it would be a disavantage
OR
it mightve been a handicap?
since the fight was meant to be ritual combat
they'd likely have to fight on equal power grounds aka davoth not being able to use his creator type powers?
idk

[nimble marten]

uac

[azure oriole]

tYrAntS got nerfed

[austere bronze]

he didn't have such powers

[kind basin]

Tyrants are the same from doom 1 and 2

[nimble marten]

man
i wish we got a 2016 UI mod for eternal
2016's map feelsso much easier to understand :<

[fringe torrent]

Doomguy having 10 BFG shots while Slayer has 3

[azure oriole]

yucky

[kind basin]

Both being awesome

[kind basin]

They just lost them thunderthighs that is all

[nimble marten]

How do I unlock the rest of the Maykr slayer master collection?

[azure oriole]

grinding xp

[nimble marten]

just regular level xp grinding?

[azure oriole]

no its a different type of xp

Event xp I think its called

[fringe torrent]

Complete the monthly and weekly challenges to get a lot of it

[verbal rune]

Does anyone want to play battle mode

[dreamy nymph]

Why don’t I have Zombie Slayer

[azure oriole]

you have to submit a ticket to bethesda support asking for the slayers club rewards and they will give you all of them

[dreamy nymph]

FU

CK

[mellow lynx]

Hello americans

[austere bronze]

the pink clears everything, and purple is second

sadly they're only available via mods💔

i used to use that hud

[azure oriole]

edgy hud

[austere bronze]

before i got cool and got mods

[dreamy nymph]

How do I get the Patriot Slayer master collection

[dire echo]

@minor pumice Have you beaten Doom Eternal along with its DLCs?

[minor pumice]

Nope

Never

It wiil be my first time ina few days

But I know the demons cause to Horde mode

[minor pumice]

And you? What about Doom Eternal, 2016 ans the dlc?

Doom eternal in particular

[dire echo]

I have beaten Doom 2016 back in 2021 on Nintendo Switch like I said, I have also beaten Doom Eternal on it too

I am planning to buy Doom Eternal along with its DLCs on Steam when it is on sale

[minor pumice]

My god you are the real man for beating Doom and Doom eternal on switch. You are the real slayer

[dire echo]

I haven't gotten the chance to play the DLCs

[dire echo]

In hurt me plenty tho XD

Only reason I played in ultra violence when I got my hand on Doom 2016 on PC is to give myself a little more challenge because PC has a much better control than Nintendo Switch

I am gonna do the same thing when I buy Doom Eternal later on Summer Sale

[minor pumice]

Try it on nightmare... Obviously if you want but it's really funny and a great challenge and when you complete and master it, you feel the slayer himself

[minor pumice]

I will wait the sales for buy year one pass

[dire echo]

If I have the guts then sure

Since PC controls are so much better

[dire echo]

Does the year one pass include the DLCs?

[minor pumice]

Yes, both 1 and 2

[dire echo]

Alright, I am gonna save up my money from now on to buy it

[minor pumice]

But you don't have doom eternal on steam right? So buy the deluxe edition at 17,99€ if I remember that will give you everything

The year one pass is only for the users who have already the base game

[fringe torrent]

You can buy the pass without owning the game

[dire echo]

Right now no

[fringe torrent]

It'll let you play the DLCs without buying the base game

[minor pumice]

Ah I didn't knew it

Anyway I suggest you to buy the deluxe edition cause it's 17,99€ on sale and the year one pass it's 14,99€ on sale so for 3 euros...

[dire echo]

I think I will just be buying the year one pass, the deluxe edition is way too expensive for me

[ember plinth]

oh man this game is hard these guys really are hurting me plenty

is it okay to play on too young to die on ur first playthrough

in your guys opinion

[austere bronze]

for sure, i did that

why wouldn't it be okay?

[ember plinth]

how do i switch difficulties mid playthrough

[ember plinth]

because some communities are big whiney bitches when it comes to difficulty settings

"oh you couldnt get past margit the fell omen? git gud?"

[austere bronze]

settings and of the top of the "game" section (where you appear when you go into settings)

[austere bronze]

and they're cringe🙂

[ember plinth]

lol

[fringe torrent]

The only correct way to experience a game is how you want to

[ember plinth]

i love elden ring tho but it took a while to learn. However that game is way more straight forward as its just roll and then attack but with this game i feel like i would learn way better if it wasnt too hard

[austere bronze]

yeah, if it's too hard it's hard to really get better

[ember plinth]

what rune should i get as my first one i cant decide between the extra life and speed boost after glory kill

[dreamy nymph]

well I have an important question. How do I obtain the patriot slayer skins

[ember plinth]

THE SLAYER CAN HAVE SKINS?? HOW??

[rugged flax]

rewards

[dreamy nymph]

it's doom eternal...

[ember plinth]

how

[austere bronze]

air control is the best rune in the game

[rugged flax]

by playing the game

[ember plinth]

oh alright

[dreamy nymph]

well there's a reward for getting the TAG 1 DLC

[ember plinth]

google said something about linking a bethesda account do i need to do that

[rugged flax]

yes

I think so

[dreamy nymph]

well it is necessary to even get inside the game

[ember plinth]

oh right i forgot i did that lol

[rugged flax]

while u play the game u get season points that will give skins

and other stuff

and if u beat UN u get gold skin

[dreamy nymph]

so I don't need to do anything to get Patriot Slayer

[dreamy nymph]

[rugged flax]

yea u get it from some season if I reacll correctly

[dreamy nymph]

what's the current one or whatever

[rugged flax]

don't remeber I have all the rewards already

[ember plinth]

yeah mhm i will totally do that

[austere bronze]

mid

patriot slayer is easily the best skin

[dreamy nymph]

so when will I get it

[austere bronze]

no idea, all i know is it's a series a4 reward

pretty sure you can unlock it via a skin unlocker, if you're on pc and can get mods

[dreamy nymph]

well

one thing that's for certain is that the zombie slayer will never be mine

[ember plinth]

too young to die is just right for me its about the same as hurt me plenty was in doom 2016 imo

[fringe torrent]

Spring

[dreamy nymph]

I meant in DOOM Eterna-

[fringe torrent]

Yes, Spring

The events are named after the seasons they take place during

[dreamy nymph]

ohhhhh

[fringe torrent]

The current one is the Spring event

[dreamy nymph]

If I've seen correctly, nearly every event type skin has ben put behind payment in a skin series thing

kinda like the Ember skin or smth

[rugged flax]

yes gold is trash

[fringe torrent]

Not nearly every, but a chunk of them yes

By the way, the Patriot skin is during the Summer event

[dreamy nymph]

or the gold marauder

[azure oriole]

Hey guys

[dreamy nymph]

oh thanks

[austere bronze]

hi!

[azure oriole]

Do you guys wanna see my video on DOOM eternal?

[dreamy nymph]

let me guess, is it because July 4 is in the summer

[fringe torrent]

Probably

[azure oriole]

I'll give the link now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-vfOoySzBU&t=117s

Check it out!

[rugged flax]

man the new discord look is bad

[dreamy nymph]

true

[austere bronze]

i like most of it

but the servers are too small

[rugged flax]

I mean it's similiar but I also hate change most of the time

[dreamy nymph]

I like the Onyx theme though

[fringe torrent]

Different colors are nice but I'll stick to the dark mode we had before lol

You can't just give me something for 6 years then expect me to move away from it, I'm used to it now

[dreamy nymph]

tbf I do use midnight theme on my phone so I can't be not expected to like Onyx

[fringe torrent]

Onyx is too dark for me

[rugged flax]

da fucks that, I mean my discord is in finnish so the names are likely diffrent

[dreamy nymph]

the darkest color available in discord on PC at the moment

[rugged flax]

welp nice to know I can change stuff like that I guess

[dreamy nymph]

there's Light, Ash, Old Dark, and Onyx

[fringe torrent]

Ash is just the sweet spot imo

[rugged flax]

I have it on deafault

also I got sick and got better in the same day

[austere bronze]

pro

[rugged flax]

I had a sore throat in da morning and now I gt only a runy nose

so it was just some common cold even though it's spring

and the runny nose might also be because of allergies as pollen starts getting here

[worn terrace]

need to finish up these battlemode triumps

i have to basicaly just play arch vile, i sucked at him

any why am i getting double hot streak progress on the meter?

[azure oriole]

battlemode 2.0 bug they never bothered fixing

wish it started on season 1 so I didnt have to grind the 7/8 streaks

[worn terrace]

yah it seemed to fix itself some how. i only have 3 streaks now. GOing to play AV for the remainder

i forgot how fun bm is, i know a lot of people hated it, but once you find the funzone its a blast

id really should of made a battlemode campaign mode, so you had the kit and nerfs of the battlemode slayer. Lots of poeple jumped into bm right after the campign to find themselves nerfed

[steel cargo]

Trying to get to atleast 130 on the leaderboard

WHY IS SLAYER SO HARD

[soft mural]

Anybody on pc trying to boost battlemode achievements?

[plucky adder]

I can try and do some on Monady or Tuesday if ya want

[azure oriole]

I would help you but Im not on my pc rn

[fringe torrent]

Monady

[soft mural]

What time on Monady. I work kinda late unfortunately.

[steel cargo]

lap of discipline miment

[plucky adder]

probably anytime tbh, I got Monday and Tuesday off

[steel cargo]

monady

[azure oriole]

Are you on console?

[steel cargo]

yes

[plucky adder]

ye

[steel cargo]

How is someone firing precision bolts at micro missile speed?

[faint ingot]

Battle mode without being able to quick swap sounds pretty rough yeah

[faint ingot]

Lol they're using a bug

[steel cargo]

I can quick swap a bit

[azure oriole]

visual bug

[fringe torrent]

You can quick swap on console

[steel cargo]

only 2 at a time tho

[fringe torrent]

No you can bind weapons

[steel cargo]

I have a default controller

[fringe torrent]

You can bind them with any controller

[azure oriole]

Same happens with arbalest

[steel cargo]

I only have 1 free button

[fringe torrent]

You can unbind some

[steel cargo]

What should I unbind

[azure oriole]

crucible

[steel cargo]

mod switcg?

[azure oriole]

mission info

[azure oriole]

Uh maybe?
On battlemode mod switching isnt necessary

[steel cargo]

Good. I have 4 buttons now

What weapons do I put

SSG, Ballista, RL, Heavy Cannnon

[azure oriole]

ssg heavy canon and ballista

[steel cargo]

I have L3 too

[fringe torrent]

Throw in the RL for Battlemode

[azure oriole]

rl too if you can pb+rocket

[steel cargo]

Oh god 4 weapon quickswaps

All on my dpad

[uneven plank]

Playing Eternal on PS5.
This hud is… intrusive. What settings would y’all say is ”needed”

[fringe torrent]

I removed the rune stuff along the bottom of the screen and everything around the crosshair, personally

[uneven plank]

Nice, I’ll need to cleanup the crosshair at least then

Rune stuff? I had no idea the bottom was that

😅

[dire echo]

Is there an achievement for you if you beat Doom Eternal in UN?

[young mango]

runes aren’t even required to be shown in speedrun rules so I’d assume they’re one of the least important parts of the HUD

[young mango]

a steam one? no, an in-game achievement, yes

[dire echo]

Ah dammit alright then

[warm isle]

eternal moods disable achievements?

[lucid trail]

Alright

[uneven zinc]

hello

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-doom-at-everyone-everyone-arch-vile-gif-6653218301493400339

[vast cedar]

Demon color ui theme very cool

I like the pink health bar

[autumn comet]

Ok, I just finished the ancient gods part 1 (I already spoiled the lore for myself for part 2 lol) and uh god damn I have a headache. Now I'm someone that definitely has a "skill issue", which is why Ive been playing on "I'm too young to die" difficulty. I like to feel cool and enjoy the game without stressing out over deaths. So why the hell did I feel like a straight up VICTIM in some parts of TAG1 💀 So many damn mobs spawned in at once, there were more than a few times I got cornered and felt like I was in a moshpit

Throughout the main campaign of Doom Eternal I was like "wow this is fun" but so far the dlcs have me feeling like "is it over yet" which is kinda a crap feeling to have

[still oracle]

im usually of the opinion that doom is a game thats meant to be hard

but i agree some of the arenas are a bit over the top

[autumn comet]

Yeah I get it's meant to be hard, but there's a difference between "this is hard but I feel accomplished when I beat this mission" and "this is hard and tedious and I'm just glad it's over". Base game falls into the first camp for me, TAG1 the second camp. I almost don't want to play TAG2 but I think Im just gonna take a break for a few days and then jump into it

[austere bronze]

tag2 is the easiest campaign

i disagree with the tag1 stuff critique

some of the arenas were a bit too drawn out, but other than that, it's fine
tag1 is not really a lot harder than final sin, and a dlc is expected to be harder than the campaign

[humble adder]

Anyone wana play battle mode w me n my friend we need one more person

[rugged flax]

Seems like u got your answer already but in ps5 there was an achviment atleast I think so

[nocturne lynx]

No external achievements. Closest thing to that was one in 2016 which only asked you to beat the first map on UN.

[rugged flax]

Oh yeah I was thinking of the extra life achviemnts

[dire echo]

I got that achievement on Doom 2016 just yesterday and didn't continue playing the game in UN

[late drum]

Is it possible to record a demo using console commands in DOOM Eternal?

I'm trying to reproduce a TDR, and it would be perfect if I could record a demo and replay it.

[oblique topaz]

Like what parts

I only found the final boss cancer

[austere bronze]

the final boss of tag1 is great and i will forever stand by that

[oblique topaz]

Lowkey like 2 phases out of it r good

[austere bronze]

1 phase is bad, and that's the caco phase

[azure oriole]

Dont you like waiting 1 minute doing absolutely nothing?

[oblique topaz]

Spirit phases r goofy

They should only have 1 but I wouldn’t complain if 0

[azure oriole]

bullet sponges are so fun to fight

[young mango]

Dark lord is the same thing for 5 phases💔

his 4th and 5th phase are the worst because that’s when he can do the most things and that means he’s less likely to green light

[lilac berry]

Samur Makyr goated

[austere bronze]

why?

they were great pressure points and put the player's movement and decision making to test

[oblique topaz]

Doesn’t feel like they belong in the boss

[azure oriole]

lock on spam

[lilac berry]

Spirit phases bad cuz why?

Personally like engaging with two possessed demons felt like a good challenge

[azure oriole]

They do kinda take away from the actual boss itself I think

[lilac berry]

I treat it like any other boss in eternal where there’s some heavy and fodder demons as support

It’s just been ramped up cuz dlc

[azure oriole]

the “beauty” of Eternal's combat is loss when a possessed demon appears

[austere bronze]

absolutely no

[azure oriole]

no falters

[slow sigil]

the only beauty DE is able to produce is stunlocking it seems

[azure oriole]

In base game no demon feels like a bullet sponge

[azure oriole]

I dont find the appeal on just spamming lob on a single enemy

[lilac berry]

Doom fans when it comes to hating the TAG dlc

[slow sigil]

tbh tag2 atleast deserves it

[azure oriole]

using anything else is a waste of ammo or its simple too slow

[azure oriole]

Hell nah

[young mango]

Plobbus moment

[lilac berry]

Not a fan of the hammer and dark lord fight or does it run deeper?

[austere bronze]

true

[lilac berry]

Just curious

That seems like the common criticism

[azure oriole]

Almost all dlc demons suck

[slow sigil]

it's launch was genuinely garbage, davoth is just a poor "final boss" and especially as a standin for satan, and the hammer is fun but kinda bloated in how much stuff it gives back

[austere bronze]

not an issue with spirit, issue with LOB

[lilac berry]

True true

It is fun tho yea just needed to be tuned better so it didn’t feel as cheap

[austere bronze]

it's the same for all enemies, the fastest way to kill them would just be to LOB them

[lilac berry]

I personally fw the stone imps bro…

[azure oriole]

Why use anything besides lob?

[slow sigil]

stimps are a garbage way to "force" someone to use a badly designed weapon mod

[young mango]

what about the launch? It hasn’t really changed, immora is the same as it was on launch, reclaimed is the same except with a few extra enemies and an extra wave at the end, and world spear changes the imp wave to two doom hunters and adds a few heavies here and there

[austere bronze]

here are all of my issues with TAG2:
bad level design
bad new enemies
bad final boss
bad new weapon
not as good music

[lilac berry]

Oooo nah

Spear revisited theme is banger

But most of those critiques are fair

I do prefer TAG 1

[slow sigil]

honestly idk what it even changed anyways since i didn't play tag2 post update

[young mango]

odd

[austere bronze]

generally speaking, i find tag2's music weaker than both tag1's and the base game's

[slow sigil]

i fw reclaimed earth and have grown more fond over davoth's theme

[lilac berry]

Most ppl tend to

I don’t think Andrew or David did a bad job at all personally

[austere bronze]

it doesn't escalate in the same way, making encounters feel less impactful, transition between different combat phases are flatter and many tracks honestly feel repetitive

[lilac berry]

I’m one of those guys that loves UAC Atlantica theme but I see not a lot of love

It does seemed mixed low

[slow sigil]

i thought worldpsear had perfect impact when it pumped up the music for 25 imps!

[austere bronze]

it isn't bad, but it results in a soundtrack that's flatter and doesn't have the same energy as tag1's and the main campaign's

[lilac berry]

The blood swamp theme has me on the edge of my seat

[azure oriole]

blood swamps was aids on release

[young mango]

a bit hyperbolic

[slow sigil]

we're talking about the themes, not the gameplay
and UACA already scaled the difficulty enough

[azure oriole]

K

[young mango]

Dear lord people can’t change topics anymore lol😭

[austere bronze]

honestly, tag2's arena design is just so bad it annoys the hell out of me

[slow sigil]

😭 i thought they where confused on the topic

[slow sigil]

i can only remember the good ones

[austere bronze]

it's worse than with the enemies, because those you have limited interactions with

[austere bronze]

hard to remember a lot of the encounters when they're all the same!

[slow sigil]

ok and the few actually bad ones that where just flat rooms

last immora encounter, that second to last WS arena where it was (?) 4 bmaykrs back to back but if you stood on the edges of the exit they insta-speared

[austere bronze]

there is an incredible amount of just flat arenas in tag2

[slow sigil]

RE opening

[young mango]

Probably why it feels good to speedrun, skip most of it

[azure oriole]

unreclaimed earth left me traumatized

[slow sigil]

i was fooled by ID thinking tag2 would be good after that first real arena

[austere bronze]

tag1 and the main campaign incorporated verticality, multi-layered arenas and good usage of environmental options, creating an overall balanced and complex arena design. tag2 however suffers from a noticeable overuse in completely flat arenas that doesn't really promote Eternal's excellent movement, and it removes much of the challenges with eternal's enemy AI and creative routing. to exacerbate this, the arenas are really homogenous, with most of them either being completely flat or having same-ish 3D terrain.

[azure oriole]

An official re master level would have fixed me

[austere bronze]

issues with the new enemies can be summarized as:
they're restrictive, they're broken and introduce mechanics that are just annoying
and the hammer just breaks core eternal concepts lmfao

same with some of the tag2 enemies too

[nimble marten]

the absolute agony of doing UAC atlantica only to have the slayer gate bug out and not grant you the support rune so now you have to play the entire thing again and you can't even use cheats to get there faster

[uneven plank]

Can doomguy kickflip? 🤔

[plucky adder]

Yea

[verbal rune]

Can anyone play battle mode on doom eternal

[azure oriole]

which platform?

[void finch]

Ofc he can 🙂

[terse solar]

Took me 36 mins to beat dark lord, is this skill issue

I'm playing on ultra violence btw

[uneven plank]

Nice. I wonder if Tony hawk thought him? He was in THPS3 afterall, is this why he got a deck in his office 🤔

[mighty jetty]

Got to marauder fight thought i was going to die a bunch died once beat him second try just got to get better at switching shit faster

Same with most bosses died once got it the second time

I truly thought it would be harder I'm not playing on ultra nightmare but uv it really ain't that bad i think people just bad lmao

[oblique topaz]

Yea I think the only boss I died on more than once was somehow the single doom hunter 💀

[hardy flume]

FUCKING DOOM HUNTER AGAIN I FUCKING HATE HIM!!!!! WHY IS HE SO BUGGY I CANT EVEN GK HIM HE IS SO FUCKING ASS AND WEAK BUT ANNOYING I FUCKED HIS MOTHER IN AL HOLES SORRY GUYS BUT I HATE TAT BITCH

THEY GOTTA FIX DOOM ETERNAL AND DOOM HUNTER

[verbal rune]

Bro chill

Just activate sentinel armor

[true basin]

or yknow

deactivate the shield, and hit him with like ssg and rocket combo

[autumn comet]

Pulse rifle, blood punch it's base, rocket launcher when it gets to critical

[true basin]

yeah

and keep moving around

[autumn comet]

Microwave beam mod works pretty well for doom hunter ngl

[austere bronze]

true slayer was not complaining over the doom hunter's difficulty

[austere bronze]

you don't really need it for him though

just hitting his sled will deal full damage

[strange gale]

what a great demonstration of the level of reading comprehension in this server

[true basin]

pulse mod for the plasma rifle is really helpful for doomhunter tho

It weakens the shield pretty fast

and lock on for the rocket launcher when its on critical

literally melts its health like butter

[strange gale]

el no sabe

[azure oriole]

sí sabe

[austere bronze]

thing is, you can kinda ignore their shield

[true basin]

I know

but I like doing it like that

i like giving them a chance

[strange gale]

give what a chance? the "lock on" rockets that lose all tracking if you dash once?

[true basin]

the doomhunter

I like giving the doomhunter a chance to fight back

[strange gale]

yeah i know you're talking about dh

but what attack in his kit becomes a noticeable threat if you do that

melee attacks should never hit you unless you insist on staying in his face

rockets should never hit you unless it takes you like 5 seconds to react to an obvious audiovisual cue

the arm cannon projectiles have no tracking and shit predictive aim so they should also never hit you unless you stand still

they're harmless so giving them a "chance" means nothing

[hardy stag]

If I start up the ancient gods dlc is it on the same save slot? Like would my weapon upgrades stay consistent and let me continue to unlock them?

[orchid latch]

Everything is unlocked in TAG, no matter if you've done the campaign

[soft mural]

battlemode achievement boosting on steam anyone?

[hardy stag]

ok, I just want to upgrade every weapon to it's fullest with mastery on my own, I've played evey level except the last one but it doesn't seem like there are enough token for me to do that

[tranquil crescent]

am i the only guy who thinks that marauders are a unique enemy that are fun to fight against and not too hard

[oblique topaz]

No

[azure oriole]

They're certainly unique

[nocturne lynx]

Everything but the Support Runes, but they’re negligible so who cares.

[hardy flume]

guys guys like Im talking about the doom hunter base where u dont have a lot of upgrades and taras nabad UN level where u get stuck with a lot of possesed demons with buff totem

like im talking about UN there is no sentinel armor

and In taras nabad there is so many demons that i dont have time to GK him cuz they block me

anyways will try taras nabad today i wont play main campaign anymore its boring

[hardy flume]

maybe cuz u play on like UV or idk and u are on like ARC where there is one vs one not fucking gore nest with 2 marauders against u or like horde mode with 3 marauders and one with spirit on NIGHTMARE mode

[austere bronze]

no i agree with him, and there are never 3 marauders at the same time in non-modded content

[rugged flax]

Marauders are fun

Davoth is not fun, it’s just a harder marauder

[slow sigil]

why would marauder but harder not be harder?

[austere bronze]

there are some key differences that differentiate the marauder and davoth

[hardy flume]

it is on horde mode

in the holt last mission

[hardy flume]

davoth is funny to fight cuz u have the hammer and u can just spam with it

ez fight but a spirit marauder and 2 marauders buffed by a totem is def not the easiest shit on nightmare dif

[rugged flax]

Yes but the fight similiar

[rugged flax]

Sure but it’s boring

[hardy flume]

but the amount of hp davoth has makes the battle good cuz u can just hammer infinitly and get ammoand shot hammer shot ye

[hardy flume]

maybe cuz its easy i agree

but for a relax warmup thats ok

the seraphim fight was better tho u need to agree

[rugged flax]

The hp is low it takes litrially two hammer when u play cassually

[hardy flume]

harder and all the 4 fazes were dif from each other

[rugged flax]

Yes hardenss wise

[hardy flume]

ye but if u play on un its a good warmup

[rugged flax]

On nightmare right cause u cant go back in UN diff

[hardy flume]

ye true

same shit

[rugged flax]

Yes

[hardy flume]

i play doom for the combat not for exploring and tats why i dont like the main campaign, u gotta find all upgardes and other stuff but in the dlcs u hav eeverything

i will never finish the main camapign

[rugged flax]

But the gladiator fight is better also in warm up

[hardy flume]

ye but it takes time to go to him while Davoth fight starts directly

[rugged flax]

I like both parts of the game myself

[austere bronze]

no

[rugged flax]

U can get to him pretty fast tho

[rugged flax]

Maybe theres 3 in the encounter but not at the same time

I don’t remeber the encounter tho

[austere bronze]

we were talking about at the eame time though

[austere bronze]

agreed, i also just find early game with less upgrades more boring

i want my full arsenal xd

[rugged flax]

I know but I’m thinking maybe he misremeberd

[hardy flume]

yes

ohh i meant like there is 2 barons and one spirit marauder and then after killing the spirit marauder 2 spawns and i think the bufftotem in the middle spawns too

maybe ur right idk

played horde mode like 3 months ago

[rugged flax]

So I was right about there being 1 marauder and 2 marauders in the same encounter, or?

[strange gale]

you don't really need to "find" anything

[nimble marten]

actively about to crash out if i see another buffed marauder i swear to god

i lost an extra life to the first one 💀 god mf damn

[timid canopy]

is it just me or is this platinum extra 🤦‍♂️

i did everything besides like 3 of the battlemode trophies

[fringe torrent]

The Battlemode stuff really isn't that hard

[timid canopy]

true but it's time consuming

like i only need a kill with the bfg, around 110 kills for bloodbath and like 30k more healing

but holy

[hardy flume]

okay okay so u mean that all the upgrades are like infron of me like ye take me and injust take them, no bro, during like 11 missions to nekrovol 2 u gota find all crystals and suit upgrade points

[strange gale]

you def don't need anywhere close to all sentinel tokens

yeah only 5/20 token upgrades are important

unless you insist on 100%ing the base game for whatever reason (or you suck and you actually do need everything), they really do put everything that matters right in front of you

[nimble marten]

nekravol had one single mildly annoying secret encounter to get to
other than that i got everything just going thru the level

and that was just cause i wante to 100% levels before moving to next one

[hardy flume]

im not talking about enc but ok anyways gtg

[nimble marten]

i'm talking about secrets/puzzles in general

[strange gale]

lil bro calls himself "true slayer" but can't deal with missing like 3 upgrades

only 2 sentinel crystals in the entire game are gated behind optional content (mission challenges that reward you with sentinel batteries) but said challenges are so easy that you're practically guaranteed to complete them accidentally

suit upgrades flat out don't matter except for the movement related stuff

[nimble marten]

literally every secret and secret encounter is just done first try
except that one tight spaced marauder in taras nabad i think

[nimble marten]

and grenade upgrades
esp with the equipment rune

[strange gale]

damage faltering n flaming hook are strong enough as is

[nimble marten]

true but i like topping up frequently
plus automap upgrades for the completionists like true slayer wants to be

unironically i did automap and equipment first
and then slowly everything else

[azure oriole]

are you the true canon doom slayer?

[strange gale]

im glask

[azure oriole]

hi glask

[hardy flume]

ok ok le me explain fucking bastard, im talking about that i dont like the main campaign cuz its slow, boring and u gotta find everything and it takes time, i love doom cuz of combat not cuz of small encounters with a shotgun and nothing more, i like the dlcs and master level so why dont u be a normal person, and understand that i dont like the main campaign and slow, boring combat

[strange gale]

where does this idea that you "have to find everything" come from

[fringe torrent]

Opening with "fucking bastard" isn't a power move it just makes you look like an edgelord lmao

[hardy flume]

u know when u start in dlc u ahve everything right?

right, so, i doom MC u gotta slowly find and upgarde ur suit

[hardy flume]

ok sorry

[azure oriole]

my first un run was a 100% but with mastery tokens cuz some masteries were hard to get for me like full auto and microwave beam

why did I have to do that?
idk i maybe stupid

same for 2016

[hardy flume]

i finished MC on UV and bought after that 2 dlcs, all my 4ooh is dlcs and master level, events and other stuff like battlemode but i wasted like 20h on MC so thats why its hard for me to play it after playing a lot of time with full suit

[strange gale]

you don't need anywhere near every upgrade to beat base game, dlcs, master levels, or modded content

[hardy flume]

u dont need, true but they make it much easier

[azure oriole]

map upgrades are completely useless

[hardy flume]

MUCH EASIER, better to play with mastery on all weapons than with only a shotgun with no runes

[hardy flume]

true but u know what upgrades im talking about

[azure oriole]

and even some weapon mods

so why bother?

same for runes

[strange gale]

the movement & combat tech in this game are so busted that runes, the equipment launcher, and a majority of mods just don't matter

[hardy flume]

how to beat doom UN with no upgrades, thats like not for me def so i need upgrades, if u guys are 100% speedrunners and played the game with only shotgun and completed it on UN then ye cool but i dont really care and will still play with upgrades

[strange gale]

reload animation canceling of any kind already makes so much shit useless lol

[azure oriole]

i completed a nm without any upgrade once

[hardy flume]

did that for a achevement think so

[azure oriole]

No I mean no upgrades at all

[hardy flume]

ohh thats impressive

[azure oriole]

No weapon mods and anything

[azure oriole]

nah it isnt its just dumb

[hardy flume]

but thats pain, why would i waste time on such a thing when i play only UN

i think i will never play MC cuz its boring, Im about to finish all ML and then i will just do all BM achevement and leave the game forever

[strange gale]

holy fried attention span

[hardy flume]

huh

[strange gale]

you'd hate drakengard so much 🥹

[hardy flume]

me no hablo ingles ig cuz what the hell sorry is drakengard

bro thats a dif game what has that to do with me

like ig its broing or what

okay i would hate it, its anime

[nimble marten]

good LORD someone sounds pressed
if you want constant combat just play ultrakill or something
completely ignore the lore
its even more optional than doom ig

and you don't need to learn glitches to vault across the map

[azure oriole]

femboy doom eternal

[nimble marten]

honestly
just the way i like it
ultrakill cracked my egg
and doom solidified it

[fringe torrent]

That's a very funny idiom

[nimble marten]

need to get used to whiplash arm being usable without shotgun again AUGH

my poor jackhammer tech

[nimble marten]

what is?

[fringe torrent]

The egg stuff

[nimble marten]

oh yeah lol

i love it
and funnily enough
i despise actually consuming egg

[fringe torrent]

Eggs are peak though...

[hardy flume]

i care about the lore, like i already know a bit of it so like i dont need more, ultrakill is imo i would say idk just the graphics

[nimble marten]

the graphics are intentionally simpler
lore relevant

[hardy flume]

idk played it didnt like it

[nimble marten]

it has DEEP lore
if you want to go look for it

[hardy flume]

played it

[nimble marten]

your wish
🤷

[hardy flume]

gtg taras nabad UN

[nimble marten]

doom eternal is just a more macho ultrakill imo
and takes out quickswap combos for combos focused on trolling

[azure oriole]

femboy doom eternal

[austere bronze]

what does the last thing mean? lol

[nimble marten]

you don't focus on killing them fast
you focus on humiliating them

and then killing them fast if you're a speedrun oriented player

for example: the cerberus enemy is an area denial enemy with ground shockwave attacks and throws a fast projectile at you
but
you can uh
punch thhat projectile back into their face
or fire a cannonball at them, grab the ball again and punch it back twice as fast into their face
or you can just deny them the area instead with saw traps
its all down to how far you're willing to go with the "what if I do" question

[young mango]

I’m a bit late to this but I do find it odd that you are repeatedly countering with this, you have a full arsenal like, 5 levels in. It’s kind of odd that the scenario of having absolutely zero upgrades is being brought up as a counter argument to having to play with a lower amount of upgrades in any capacity, you’re creating a false dilemma

[nimble marten]

further point i'd like to make
not having the entire arsenal at hand effectively means you have to think creatively during combat to maximize use of your tools
which like is the opposite of boring
and if you wanna just do the combat then do that
not like the cutscenes are unskippable anyway (thank you dr hayden)
if you're playing for the combat like you say
then you would enjoy it more to have the exhilaration of pulling off large encounters creatively

[austere bronze]

you should always think creatively to maximize the utility of your arsenal, but in the early game you're doing it to a lesser extent

i dislike the early game because it's significantly slower paced and there's less stuff going on in every aspect

[nimble marten]

I like the early game because scenic beauty
but yeah coming back to early game feels a little slower when you're used to later game

[austere bronze]

not a little, it's way slower in every single aspect

[nimble marten]

probably just me on that bit ig

[past depot]

does doom eternal got crossplay i play series x ? guess not i googled

[terse harbor]

Just for curiosity, I wanna quickly test run Doom Eternal on ultra settings with my current specs. If it can work on ultra settings, then it should handle Dark Ages just fine.

[past depot]

Anyone down to help me sometime this week on doom eternal xbox series x i need to kill demon on multi 8 times weapons?

[terse harbor]

Seems like I'm getting a good framerate even with my I5-10400.

@lean musk You did say ultra, didn't you?

Or did you mean ultra nightmare?

Went and tested ultra nightmare and I was still getting 135 FPS. Even with Ray Tracing on.

[spice ridge]

Hi

[carmine cypress]

man the dlc on nightmare has been kicking my ass

im hittin a plateu with my skill rn
its hard to improve from here in a fast way ig

its very fun though
i beat bloodswamps today

tho had to use bfg like twice
atleast the boss was ez

[tranquil crescent]

started playing battlemode for the first time and its actually pretty fun, sad its mostly dead

[tranquil crescent]

also are the dlcs or the master levels harder?

[austere bronze]

master levels easily

[rugged flax]

master levels are pretty hard

[austere bronze]

except like cultist base and arc complex, idrk remember their difficulty, but they're not a lot harder than the first DLC/harder at all

[austere bronze]

yup

[young mango]

Off memory I’d say TAG1 is easily harder than arc and cb ML

[trim plaza]

I just played the final mission in ancient gods pt 2, no one told me that crap would feel like Avengers Endgame

[nimble marten]

Beat blood swamps
oh this is about to get fun fun

[kind pier]

yo id software can i have the empyrean key in super gore nest

i played the mission 5x in a row without cheats and the key wont spawn after being the slayer gate 💔

[nimble marten]

you're in the right spot right?
the || "secret" area in the one building with a bunch of pickups|| ?

[kind pier]

what now

doesnt the key just spawn after the thing explodes

[nimble marten]

um
any tips before going into The Holt Slayer gate anyone?

[kind pier]

its gg's for me 💔

[nimble marten]

what
oh the empyrean key im stupid
yeah you should get the key after beating the gate thats weird

[kind pier]

yeah no it literally just doesnt spawn

[nimble marten]

update: Yeah no
I'm not doing the holt slayer gate
aint no rune worth 2 archviles

[oblique topaz]

Don’t rage

🧠

[nimble marten]

too late
saw 2 archies
said nope
left
LOL

[tawdry prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-and-jeanne-me-and-her-doomguy-jeanne-cooking-gif-8245997111138418684

[autumn comet]

Whoever thought it was a good idea to have 2 screecher buffed marauders in TAG2, I just wanna talk

[oblique topaz]

That’s not even the worst part 💔

[nimble marten]

w h a t

[autumn comet]

... Oops

Anyways since I have verified "skill issues" I'm only doing this stuff on easy mode. I salute all of y'all who did the dlcs on ultra nightmare mode, and would like to express my condolences to your sanity

[gray rivet]

Yea that was so bad. I know you have the hammer, but that was not easy for me at all

I was in nightmare

[autumn comet]

The marauder is a very cool enemy in design and concept, but annoying in execution

I think my least fave demon is those tripod bloated bastards that throw shields Infront of you. I wish them all a very die

[oblique topaz]

Is it cooked that I got silver on horde mode

(It was my first time 😭)

[spring vortex]

Yo

[spring vortex]

Which difficulty

And use quick switch its cooler

[spring vortex]

Well they wanted something to gives us more focus

[oblique topaz]

Uv

I was getting touched on reclaimed earth

[spring vortex]

Aa its easy

They could add un but it would be hardcore

[nimble marten]

ppl who found do ultranightmare for fun
what do you feel when you die???

[oblique topaz]

Yea I finished it now

[young mango]

Not something everybody will agree with me on but horde mode is more than generous with how many extra lives it gives you, up to 35 on top of the 3 you start with, I’d say UN would probably be cool to see in horde mode considering a huge aspect of that is the removal of extra lives

[uneven zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-doom-at-everyone-everyone-arch-vile-gif-6653218301493400339

[spring vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/mgr-sam-jetstream-sam-good-why-thats-very-good-gif-26130189

[oblique topaz]

ur right

[abstract bridge]

is anyone here familiar with the "lock on burst 1 cycle marauder"?

[azure oriole]

[uneven zinc]

i kill dark lord

[sweet cosmos]

Excuse me, I want to get all the achievements for Doom Eternal on Steam. I'd like to know if anyone could help me with the Battlemode achievements, since I've spent over 40 minutes searching for a game and nothing comes up. Uwu

[austere bronze]

yeah, what about it?

[past depot]

Anyone down to little boost me need 4 more weapon kills as a slayer? Please so i can get this achievement done i olay on xbox

[spring vortex]

Play constantly

[trim plaza]

Me too

[patent wedge]

How many levels including dlc are in DE

[slow sigil]

i wanna say 20, discluding master levels

[patent wedge]

Ok thanks

[carmine cypress]

yesss

i beat the holt and the slayer gate on nightmare

now its dlc twooooo

bloodswamps was easily the hardest level

[polar osprey]

yeah fuck bloodswamps

[carmine cypress]

its alot of fun but man
those 2 big combat arenas at the end of each trial

so brutal
atleast the boss is easy

DLC 2 will be easier ive heard

but i loooove the aesthetics of world spear
might be my favorite lookin level
its up there atleast

also meathook nodes are very fun

[oblique topaz]

i found the holt harder personally

ion think i rlly died on blood swamps

[rugged flax]

Same

[carmine cypress]

so plan is to finish DLC 2

then do horde mode
then maybe do extra lives mode?

then do modded campaigns

actually how many levels had "official" master levels
but are just hidden

like they're in the code and maybe partially unfinished
but they're there

[azure oriole]

i love main campaign

main campaign my beloved

[nimble marten]

the first dog in the world spear is bugged 😭
bbro is NOT jumping into the altar 😭

[dull niche]

my first save is bugged so i can never 100% the main campaign

because of something i collected that the game retroactively decided i didn't actually collect

[azure oriole]

modern doom being modern doom

[dull niche]

i think it was a token

[patent wedge]

I can’t take anymore wrong doom eternal arguments, they always seem to get the game wrong

[austere bronze]

lol yeah, and almost no one's actually interested in changing their mind

[azure oriole]

Me

[patent wedge]

Always double down even when wrong, this mindset is too widespread. I can even drop a video of proof but it still wouldn’t stop them

[austere bronze]

slightest mention of tech or actually playing the game gives you the response "not everyone's a tryhard super swear with 3000 hours on the game!"

[azure oriole]

Let me get this straight
Anyone that criticizes eternal is wrong?

[azure oriole]

but thats true tho

[austere bronze]

dum dum takes and dum dum discussions, hope we won't get the same for tda to the same level

[austere bronze]

not what he said at all

[azure oriole]

Not everyone is going to spend 293037319282821 hours in a sp game

[austere bronze]

obviously lol

[azure oriole]

Just to learn tech that is unintended

[austere bronze]

i don't really understand if you have a specific point you're making

[mighty jetty]

finished the campaign still not the best at quick switching but overall much better than doom 2016 some critiques before I play the dlcs the super shotgun meat hook IS DOG ass i dont get wtf im doing wrong but it only seems to work on the biggest enemies that aint moving to much other wise its seems practically impossible to land it or for the pop up appear. THE FUCKING enemies feel like walls for a movement shooter the enemies feel like brick walls where like the slightest limb infront of me means I cant move forward or to the side. Ammo managment really not an issue only like 2 times did i feel like i was lacking ammo and thats cause no small dudes where spawning. I feel for ammo managment complaints people should really play the old doom games cause imo ammo managment important for them. Platforming sections kinda felt unecessary but it did fix the critique I have in 2016 where there wasnt enough exploration this one had a ton. Also idk wtf the dmg for pain elementals is but it feels 3x as much as most enemies. Overall solid game really like the combat loop pretty steep learning curve but once u get the hang of it its so nice. Oh one other thing similar to 2016 and maybe cause im not the best at quick swapping yet, it again felt that super shotgun, rocket launcher, and arbalist the most used weapons and thats what i would be quick swapping the most. Plasma cannon actually felt more useful in this game compared to 2016 overall 8.5 or 9/10

oh and i felt atleast for the smaller enemies the glory kills kinda bland comparitively to 2016 but thats just a nitpick they where still FUCKING AWESOME

[strange gale]

takes like 5-15 minutes at most if you aren’t handicapped in some way

"but it's unintended" is also a doooogshit argument because 5 years after release, most tech remains unpatched

they had plenty of time to obliterate all of the movement and weapon tech in the game, but they never did

i wonder why... could it be because the game is better with their inclusion?

they only ever patched what, xiae boosting, slope boosting, and the ice bomb tech?

[young mango]

They patched ESV but that’s kinda insignificant

[strange gale]

uncoupling meathook acceleration from your fps would be very easy, but they never did that

[azure oriole]

Pretty sure if it wasnt for the big backlash they received id wouldnt have reverted the pb nerf

[strange gale]

that wouldn't have killed animation canceling lol

pb isn't necessary at all for quickswapping

[young mango]

It wasn’t just a pb nerf, it nerfed a lot of FSE applicators, including plasma rifle, which inadvertently patched out yeetblast

[azure oriole]

lol

[young mango]

I don’t even think anybody knew yeet blast existed when that happened

[azure oriole]

if they were patching out the most basic form of “exploit”

I dont want to imagine what would they have done with the more “complex” stuff

[strange gale]

i'm really struggling to understand what the point of this is

if all of it was intended, would it suddenly be worth learning to you?

[azure oriole]

I was responding to this

[azure oriole]

Yeah because it would be an intended gameplay mechanic

[strange gale]

this is good bait

you almost got me

[azure oriole]

wut

[steel cargo]

Anyone on PS5 wanna hop on battlemode to help me get trophies?

please?

[true basin]

little dumb question

is it fine if I play eternal with a mouse that has key binding on the side or should I get to learning to use keyboard keys for swapping weapons?

[stone steeple]

My UN run came to an end in the courtyard on Taras Nabad. Apparently the archville spawns on the opposite side of whichever side you go. Got ran up on by a bunch of empowered demons 🙃

[coral hazel]

so nice to have my great run on Horde Mode come to an end 2/3 of the way through because i get tagged by a Cursed Prowler and subsequently accidentally use my 1 available Blood Punch on another enemy as i'm trying to punch him, so then i literally can do nothing except wait for my 21 or so extra lives to burn out or just quit the game at that point. Jesus Christ, what a great enemy design

[autumn comet]

Horde mode made me ready to crash out a little at the end, got 3 archviles and god damn screamers at the same time. Im not touching it again lmao

[coral hazel]

i love Doom Eternal, always have, and have played through Horde Mode a number of times on Nightmare. it's a blast. but the Cursed Prowler is bullshit

if you're gonna mute all my abilities and weapons and FORCE me to use a Blood Punch to get out of a situation or just die, then give me unlimited Blood Punches to do it

anyway, rant over

[azure oriole]

cbt killed eternal modding

[uneven zinc]

borra la cuenta

[azure oriole]

la tuya

[uneven zinc]

no

[oblique topaz]

Turn off the empowered

[azure oriole]

i think he meant buffed demons

[stone steeple]

Yeah the buffed ones form the Archville

[charred linden]

Will id remove the multiplayer for doom eternal in the future like doom 2016. I hate having to always connect with the bethesda account 😒 online

Or make a work around for it some how

[real holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407712009409265665/1356801299534053467/782330_265.jpg?ex=67ede32d&is=67ec91ad&hm=71ee877f9accd3f9d9ca804288fffc6e0e1a4c365a12bc08298df210d0b91789& ayyy

no bfg too

I didnt expect that much of a score bonus my ego is inflated yay (on nightmare btw)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/407712009409265665/1356802216098529450/its_beautifl.jpg?ex=67ede408&is=67ec9288&hm=c368f05dc4e89f33b25343746760b4865e24158dddf8dfadba53b782e70d3c60&=&format=webp&width=1536&height=864

its beautifl....

[small crane]

does anyone know how to fix this. Im using sony xm5 wireless headphones and whenever I launch the game the audio quality tanks. Ive had the same issue with other games but i fixed it. dont understand why eternal is still doing it

ive disabled my headphones as a mic and disabled all of the handsfree stuff

[clever schooner]

How do you get the tutorial slayer skin, is that a pre order type of thing?

[azure oriole]

horde mode reward

[clever schooner]

And recently I have come back to doom eternal and was wondering how to unlock these rewards?

Nvm I can't take a picture

[lethal breach]

ive started playing doom eternal again (last time i was in the station right after i killed the priest) and now killed the gore nest with no death now in arc command station seeing why people say the mauraduar is annoying and bugged its fast tho

[clever schooner]

When it's eyes flash green it's kinda like a parry so you have to shoot at the right time and make sure you don't shoot it's shield because it will spawn a dog

And does anyone know what the unmayker does???

[azure oriole]

wastes bfg ammo

[noble ocean]

After having died numerous times due to unseen attacks in the first level on Nightmare mode, how the hell do people do Ultra Nightmare?

[clever schooner]

Movement, gun skill, overall experience

[real holly]

funny thing about horde mode is until the end it consistently gaslights you into believing you wont get anything past silver

but once the no bfg and nightmare bonuses came around it skyrocketed to max level lol

I KNEW they were going to throw a possesed marauder in the last part of the holt I just KNEW IT

[young mango]

Fucc this arena

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1356836555955765319/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_89_1.mp4?ex=67ee0403&is=67ecb283&hm=d9083e95e29353d339378c69f19e96f0e51d18c318bf4ecb8564c322d3c7b048&

[abstract bridge]

this is why i wanna practice on regular nightmare on maps first before going UN, rip your run though

[stone steeple]

yeah, silly oversight for me. I just assumed the spawns because I went the same route everytime during my practice runs. Then I switched it up and paid for it

[abstract bridge]

also have you tried any of the DLCs in UN?

[unique harness]

Today, after having finished the campaign thrice and the DLCs, I saw the Doom Hunter back glory kill for the first time

[stone steeple]

No, I haven't touched the DLC's

[real holly]

I only recently started to notice a vast mayority of people dont fw the final boss of tag 2, meanwhile my goofy ah has it as my favourite boss in the game for some reason

to alot of people its easily the worst boss in the game too

[austere bronze]

tag2 enemies in general just suck lol

but the cursed prowler is extra sucky

[austere bronze]

it's totally fine

using your side buttons to bind dashing and a weapon or something is a good idea

[coral hazel]

i'm not even against the idea of a Cursed Prowler. but he shouldn't just take away EVERYTHING, and the only way to undo it is to either die or Blood Punch him

[rugged flax]

Them cursed mfs are annoying as fuck

[coral hazel]

putting him in the final fights of Horde Mode levels is just mindblowing, especially when you have 6-8 or more enemies clustering on you at the same time, and your punch could very easily hit 1 of the other enemies clustering around you, and then the game is simply over. that's just trolling the player

[azure oriole]

I understand and respect the criticisms of the Cursed Prowler, but in my own experience and opinion, he’s deliberately annoying, and the first enemy to prioritize murdering. If I fail to kill him quickly, get cursed and get my ass kicked by every other demon around me, that’s just a skill issue.

Plus, Dark Lord is fun and pretty dope to fight against, although I do wish he could have done more, as he is quite literally the creator and devil of the DOOM universe, and should have been a more brutal final boss. Still fun, tho!

[young mango]

This is my personal opinion on cursed prowlers, #doom-eternal message I genuinely think the designs flawed, i don’t perceive anybody disliking them as a skill issue

An enemy that becomes invincible with no way to kill except for a blood punch hit, which has to be direct to work, is so odd

[rugged flax]

Yeah

[young mango]

Just reiterating what I already linked to, but every other enemy that can be considered high priority can be ignored indefinitely given the player knows what they’re doing. If a player, regardless of skill level, gets cursed and just decides to not kill the prowler, they die. It’s so one-dimensional, it’s so hard to phrase it, but I feel like there’s a difference between an enemy being hard, and there just being a weak enemy that effectively puts a death timer on you. Having a teleporting enemy with projectiles that also curse you, is ridiculous, outside of just insta-killing it at spawn or the cursed prowler just acting dumb, there’s a high chance you’ll get cursed. The enemy effectively being a status effect granted to you if you didn’t memorize the spawns in advance or immediately drop everything you’re doing and hope you don’t get hit with a stray projectile along the way is silly.

I’d say the point of enemies that require more prioritization in the first place asides from just being harder is to kind of drill home the point to the player that this is something that the player will have to do, to teach decision making, I see no such thing here, what lesson in decision making is being taught from this?

[livid hatch]

Anyone ever played doom eternal

[rugged flax]

I have beaten it on everything

[austere bronze]

i'm against him
to start, he's buggy. his AI often breaks so he just stands there doing nothing, or he'll teleport out of bounds, and there's essentially nothing done to fix pathing issues.
additionally, one of the facts that made enemies so strong in this game is their multi-dimensional approaches - the cursed prowler does not offer this. getting cursed does little to the experienced player but place an annoying filter over the game, as you still have a mutlitude of movement options (unless the AI fucks you over). for a less advanced player, he's just more of a dick. but in the end, it boils down to hunting down an enemy with restricted movement options, in a game about movement. and if you don't feel like getting cursed, you have to hunt down an enemy in the same way, but with slightly morr movement options and without a trash filter.

[austere bronze]

tried it once or twice

[austere bronze]

something being deliberately annoying is not a defense - it's still the same exact issues present.
you raise the enemy prioritization aspect, but it's honestly straight up bad with the cursed prowler. it is quite clearly a high prioritization, without you having to put any thought into it. which is antithetical to eternal's earlier established ideas of there being freedom in the battlefield, and the optimal way to go about stuff is not the easiest way.

a hyperbole and analogy would be an enemy that instantly kills you if you don't drop everything and find it in x amount of time, is that good enemy design?

[slow sigil]

Yes.

How else do you make hide and seek competitive?

[real holly]

A someone who literally just beat horde mode on nightmare yesterday with 19 something extra lives left, the cursed prowlers have an audio que for when they spawn

That instantly should give you the incentive to hunt them down, again I don't think their good or anything but they can be dealt with in the correct mindset

I treat cursed prowlers like I treat archvilles:

kill it before it lays eggs

[real holly]

Orbital laser enemy

[real holly]

Idk what that is

[minor pumice]

I don't think that the cursed prowler is a bad addition, indeed I think that is a demon that change the game in positive. Yes, can be annoying chasing him while the other hurt you, but I didn't find the demon a difficulty in horde mode (I made it with 38 lives). The hardest and most annoying demon to kill are the ones who are possessed by the spirit, especially the marauder possessed. I didn't die one time while I was cursed by that demon but I understand your reason guys.

[azure oriole]

I love the cursed prowler, DOOM Eternal is a better with his inclusion.

[young mango]

The quality of an enemies design shouldn’t be based primarily off its difficulty

[austere bronze]

no one said the cursed prowler's difficulty is the problem

[minor pumice]

Sorry my bad, I didn't mean to say something that wasn't told

[nimble marten]

i just dont like the prowlers in general cause theyre imp bullet sponges
and i dont like imps to begin with

[waxen adder]

Cursed prowlers don't show up that much though right? So are they really that big of a problem?

[slow sigil]

spoilers: it would just have been a big dragon marauder

[coral hazel]

I know about the audio cue, and i agree with your summation of prioritizong them the same way you would an Arch Vile. I just don't think putting them in the most intense final fights in Horde Mode was a good design choice. My issue can be boiled down to this:

If he tags you, you get ONE chance to tag him back, or you're dead. This is complicated by the fact that he cripples you by taking away all your weapons and abilities. In the campaign, this isn't as big of a deal since you can just restart from a checkpoint if you die (assuming you're not playing UN). In Horde Mode however, it's simply game over. You either sit there and watch your ~20-something extra lives burn out, or you just exit the game. There's no other enemy that operates in any way close to this. And putting that kind of a potential game-ender in the middle of fights where you have 8 or more Heavy and Super Heavy demons on you is just kind of ridiculous, imo

[austere bronze]

he doesn't have that game ender potentiality

everything that happens when you're cursed is that you have no dashes, you get a shitty filter and you can't directky meathook the cursed prowler

most of the time you got 2 blood punches already ready

if you have none, the game gives you 1

if you don't hit him directly with it (because for some reason you gotta do that) you can get another blood punch

and the cursed prowler doesn't even take your health below a certain point

generally speaking, i don't try to find him, because that's boring

[coral hazel]

How? You can't do any damage to enemies when you're cursed. How do you get another Blood Punch, absent from maybe finding a random staggered enemy to Glory Kill?

[austere bronze]

you can damage every enemy normally except the cursed prowler

i sometimes just play the game normally while cursed for a while hoping he'll appear

[coral hazel]

If that's true, i might have to surgically remove my foot from my mouth. 🤔

I had taken the muted weapon firing impact sounds as an indication that you were entirely impotent

(Well, also the fact that you have to Blood Punch the Cursed Prowler made me assume you couldn't damage anything else)

[nimble marten]

i definitely haven't had to restart doom 5 times today cause world spear dogs keep bugging tf out

[night edge]

I just finished Doom eternal and now im realy sad bc no more game to play

[austere bronze]

you can replay it, do horde mode, multiplayer, DLCs, master levels, or just experiment with tech and different playstyles in general

if you're on pc there's tons of modded content and modded multiplayer too

[oblique topaz]

U can get a blood punch

[plucky adder]

mmmm blood lunch

[terse sparrow]

honestly i hate horde mode

[coral hazel]

You get a Blood Punch! And YOU get a Blood Punch! And

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-gif-13136161200304612855

[austere bronze]

the blood punch is honestly underrated

great piece of utility

[strange gale]

been saying this

[young mango]

I wouldn’t say it’s underrated, I’d say it’s just so integrated into a lot of things that people just kinda forget to mention it

[rugged flax]

I love it it does alot of damage

[rotund delta]

anyone wanna play

[plucky adder]

Is that after blood breakfast and before blood lunch

[fringe torrent]

Isn't brunch a mix of both

[plucky adder]

Ye

[modern pier]

Do i get mission select after i beat extra life mode cause i missed some collectables in past missions

[frosty yoke]

I think you do but I'm not sure

[terse solar]

will the slayer awaken again in the ancient gods dlc 2 or is he forever locked in there?

[round bronze]

can you get extra lives on ultra nightmare?

[azure oriole]

no

[stone steeple]

I'm like 80% sure you can't on either extra-life or UN

[true heath]

Does anyone have doom eternal on switch

[azure oriole]

i was sure it was going to get cancelled

[copper trellis]

Hello

How are you?

[steel cargo]

nope

So, battlemode season ended. When do we get the rewards?

[real holly]

oh my lord just got the extra lives milestone on tag 1 nightmare

why is the holt the hardest level in the game for some reason

but hey at least for the first time I beat Samur Makyr without dying! It only took two bfg shots to the possesed Pain Elemental

now the hardest part is behind me, doing main campaign on extra lives should be a cakewalk bc of the fact i can farm so many

although I do find it weird you can just enable ANY diffuclty for extra lives mode, imo it should only be Ultra Violence and Nightmare

[real holly]

can confirm

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/585809871891333132/1357183489232998620/adadadafva.JPG?ex=67ef471f&is=67edf59f&hm=13b233faa3f1587417536d10f68ae602e83425d5b9dc914f0328224ff46424c3&=&format=webp

the quality is funny but if theres any confusion Samur is my least favourite bc by the last phase it just seems like overkill to throw that much at your face

[oblique topaz]

can u play mods on console

[azure oriole]

Not really

[real holly]

That pfp is perfect

[azure oriole]

Thanks michael vsauce

[soft mural]

Anybody want to boost battlemode achievements on steam?

[austere bronze]

i honestly don't think it's too much really

you can just start by throwing 4 arbalest shots at the pain elemental and the mwb the spirit to instantly be rid of those

[autumn comet]

Lore question, if Davoth was responsible for creating, you know, the whole damn universe, how come when he dies it's only the demons outside of hell and the power inside of Doomslayer that was destroyed? Shouldn't everything of gone poof because everything would of been connected to Davoth?

[polar osprey]

you can also do a bfg strat and shoot a bfg shot right before the cutscene starts

[orchid latch]

Davoth didn't create everything. The father created the earthly realms iirc

[autumn comet]

Yeah but father was one of his creations as well no?... Wait ok I think I understand now. Since Doomslayer destroyed fathers lifesphere he can no longer be touched in anyway, so Davoths death wouldn't of done anything to him. In turn everything created by father is safe. But since the demons and the godly power in Doomslayer were created directly from Davoth, those are the only things that could be affected at that point. Did I get it right?

I guess then the question I have is, why didn't all the demons inside of hell disappear as well? I can't remember if it was Davoth or Father that made Jekkad, I just know Davoths power turned it into hell once he realized he was being betrayed

[orchid latch]

Pretty much

[orchid latch]

He ruled hell, presumably creating it, so that's why the demons there didn't disintegrate

[polar osprey]

if doomguy gave the father a body, he would never let him kill davoth, as he is his son

[real holly]

huh

Your joking it was that easy

[austere bronze]

everything in this game can be made much easier with the right strategies

[real holly]

Duh

I was simply not aware of this one 😔

[austere bronze]

it's a very large part of combat that's probably one of the harder things to learn

[real holly]

Bc I do use the airblest or however you call it a lot on pain elementals

But for some reason my brain went "if it's possessed that won't help"

[polar osprey]

if u know movement tech ur basically untouchable

[austere bronze]

there are many ways you can go about dealing with that phase

[real holly]

I use lock on rockets at times too

[polar osprey]

yeah lob is pretty good

[austere bronze]

you don't even need movement tech, smart movement can get you through everything in the normal game

[polar osprey]

true

[real holly]

I'm good enough with that it's just the "killing x demon under x context"

[austere bronze]

great - it's very strong

[real holly]

Also reminder I was on Nightmare

So I was more of a glass cannon

[austere bronze]

you can avoid most damage and restacking is very strong

i don't really think nightmare is makes you a glass cannon

[real holly]

My main problem with the Samur fight are the Blood Makyrs though

[real holly]

Most of the time no but under the right circumstances I feel like one

[austere bronze]

you can utilize the structures to avoid projectiles

if it's high up, standing close to it will make it impossible to get hit

if it's on the ground you can be on another side of the pillars

[real holly]

Also reminder I did manage to it without dying

It's just the experience is overwhelming

[austere bronze]

fair

it does require quite a lot of pieces to come together from the player

which is what makes it awesome imo

[real holly]

My only real low point was the double bfg (extra lives mode and I was just doing a single run of the whole tag 1 campaign in one go so I was like "I'm tired")

[real holly]

That's what I appreciate from it

[austere bronze]

it isn't just hard without much thought - it focused very well on what the game wants to teach you

[real holly]

I had three extra lives to spare for the achievement once I reached Samur but I wanted to get it over with

[austere bronze]

possessed demons in that fight specifically have a 99,9% resistance to the bfg xd

[real holly]

That's funny though

[austere bronze]

unless it's a direct hit

[real holly]

AH THATS

[austere bronze]

then it's not as big iirc

[real holly]

I didn't know that

So basically I didn't actually use it bc I didn't shoot it at the pain elemental

Just around him

That explains why both shots did nothing

But hey I killed them with the lock on bursts so almost technically I didn't use the bfg bc my usage of it probably did napkin damage

My main deal with Blood Makyrs is if they get on melee range they will slow you down to a crawl

Normally I don't mind them, cool but tough enemy but under the right circumstances they become very annoying

[austere bronze]

yeah, using the bfg there does more bad than good lmao

[real holly]

I only now realized I didn't really use it at best I just did a whooping 2 damage to the pain elemental with both BFG shots combined lol

Lock on rockets were the real heroes there

[austere bronze]

i think that's good

i don't really mind the CC in that context actually

but most of the CC in the game is flat out annoying

[real holly]

I never get close to them but they can appear out of nowhere sometimes and slow me down to a crawl

[austere bronze]

and not in a good way xd

[real holly]

The Holt still remains the hardest level in the game in my eyes

Have yet to do it deathless

[austere bronze]

idk which i think is the hardest

[real holly]

Always at least ONE thing kills me

[austere bronze]

it's been too long xd

i probably don't agree with the holy being the hardest though

maybe blood swamps

[real holly]

Huh really?

I have managed to beat that without dying on Nightmare with no bfg

[austere bronze]

the 2 real fights it actually has are probably the hardest in the game (excluding master levels)

[real holly]

They are tough true

[austere bronze]

and the wolf stuff is pretty hard iirc

and you can't forget the buffed marauder lol

[real holly]

I can deal with him pretty alright

Maybe bc I'm a Marauder fan idk

Cool thing about doing both tags on extra lives mode is that it's like warmup for ultra nightmare, they even said that to me once I beat tag 1

"looks like your ready for an Ultra Nightmare run" ❤️

Also I liked looking for extra lives I didn't care abt before, nice new incentive to explore

If I ever do Ulta Nightmare I'm starting on tag 2, then tag 1 and then main campaign

Just like how I'm doing extra lives

But before I even dare to do any Ultra Nightmare runs I'm finishing the main campaign on extra lives mode

[austere bronze]

have you tried the master levels?

[real holly]

Yes i have, only beat the ark hq without dying on nightmare

I also beat super gore nest on hurt me plenty months ago

I tried Mars Core, was doing fine until one arena post Planetary fricking was just ludicrous, I think I also tried world spear but gave up as well

[oblique topaz]

Ion even remember a thing abt arc complex ml

Given I only played it once

[real holly]

Here's the thing ark complex on master level is so easy compared to the other master level