doom-eternal

[nova vector]

Doom Eternal kinda walked away from the typical "doom" feel, it was kinda more focused on slayer's past. I hope TDA reverts back to the classical feel of the game.

[austere bronze]

That's a slayer gate

[azure oriole]

It felt very traditionally story-focused

[young mango]

Speaking of secret encounters, I have no clue if the invincibility glitch was ever patched out

[austere bronze]

Don't think so

[azure oriole]

oh ok. yeah I hear spriit marauder is... fucked up.

[austere bronze]

Eh, not too bad

[waxen adder]

I think 10 days Or sm i can't play much as a student

[young mango]

I mean TDAs entire premise is the slayers past so idk about that

[austere bronze]

The possessed marauder is overhyped af in its difficulty

[azure oriole]

Aight thanks

[idle lance]

hey how do i unlock the super gore nest master level

[slow sigil]

revalidate game in steam maybe

[cloud harness]

Im pretty sure thats what tda is supposed to be about, combat wise
More like the classic games

[idle lance]

i have done the super gore nest mission but the master level is still locked

[slow sigil]

parrying seems to be a pretty core gameplay assset

[cloud harness]

Well not the exact same of course
Parrying might not be a huge part but we'll see

[lyric reef]

I cannot dodge the attacks on his second form

[clear spade]

You should consider completing campaign before any master levels especially if you play in nightmare

[idle lance]

oki

thank you

[waxen adder]

I finished the campaign today so imma do master levels soon rahhhhh

[graceful kettle]

the samur fight was ass tho

[slow sigil]

yet still a better designed boss then most others because it didn't force the square in the circle hole.

[graceful kettle]

kind of

but I hate the way he can damage you from wherever in the arena and behind your back

[young mango]

Probably the worst aspect of Samurs fight is the third phase which is just a buffer, cacos spawning on a one minute timer

[graceful kettle]

I hated that part with I think was a possessed dread knight and a pain elemental?

[austere bronze]

Why?

[austere bronze]

Good luck man

[slow sigil]

actually had to focus on multiple targets in an arena 😔

[graceful kettle]

because it was like an arena fight except there's a flying teleporting guy that can damage you at any time anywhere

[polar osprey]

prowler on crack and has wings

[graceful kettle]

and when they get you to kill possessed demons only to spawn more infinitely, it's so annoying

[azure oriole]

Not everyone is going to spend 1000+ hours getting gud at Eternal

[polar osprey]

you can shoot a bfg before the phase 2 cutscene starts and immediately blast both demons

[polar osprey]

doesnt take 1000 hours

[lyric reef]

My only issue with samur was that there were 2 possessed demons at once

[graceful kettle]

I got good but his fight is about getting good at his fight and not at the game

[polar osprey]

to be good at the game

[slow sigil]

they don't have to, only the few hours in tag1 where the arenas are pretty hard and they had numerous spirits already

[lyric reef]

Like 1 possessed demon is bad enough as is, 2 is ridiculous

[slow sigil]

if anything 2 spirits at the same time is the perfect conclusion to tag1

[graceful kettle]

tbh I always forget the BFG even exists

[lyric reef]

BFG my beloved, makes short work of annoying enemies

[polar osprey]

dont worry tho tag 2 is easier iirc

[graceful kettle]

2 spirits and a flying teleporting tank spamming projectiles from over your head

[austere bronze]

Only in the phases where samur actually does something (2/5 phases)

[slow sigil]

yeah and makes for an extremely bad endnote basically

[slow sigil]

get better positioning to avoid the red makyr

[graceful kettle]

in the phases you spend the longest in

[austere bronze]

Wrong, spirits are core to Eternal, they force you to move around faster and smarter

Movement is the most important thing in the game

[azure oriole]

i love getting cc by a blood maykr or by Samur itself in that arena whenever I take the teleporter

[graceful kettle]

I beat it already

[slow sigil]

irrelevant really

[graceful kettle]

spirits are my favorite enemy in the whole game

the samur fight was not it

[austere bronze]

Because...?

[azure oriole]

lock on spam

[austere bronze]

2 spirits at the same time? That just increases the already existing effect of spirits

[slow sigil]

i guess boss fights should not be oppressive arenas where positioning is key

[graceful kettle]

man I don't care if there's 5 spirits spawned at once

[waxen adder]

Yo why does it say I don't own any master levels

[azure oriole]

lasers are overkill in that arena

[graceful kettle]

my problem is with samur

[austere bronze]

Environmental hazards are awesome

[azure oriole]

and the constant spawn of blood maykrs

[austere bronze]

Used too little in the game

[graceful kettle]

I hate killing the maykrs only for them to spawn before I manage to do much

[young mango]

The blood maykrs are tolerable since they’re full ammo refills to compensate

[austere bronze]

They're only threatening when you can kill them though

[waxen adder]

Can someone help? Do i have to buy em?

[austere bronze]

So you can ignore them until you just pop their heads

[slow sigil]

did you already revalidate the game like i said

[austere bronze]

Or ignore them entirely until you need ammo

[azure oriole]

blood maykrs were moronic on release

[slow sigil]

0 second delay was a bit too much

[waxen adder]

What's that? If you mean opening the game again then yeah

[slow sigil]

no asking steam (or microsoft probably idk what you run it on) to check if your files are actually properly installed

[azure oriole]

Hehello

[waxen adder]

I'm on ps4

[austere bronze]

Hi

[slow sigil]

iirc you can stillvalidate gamefiles on the ps

[azure oriole]

Does it run the gayme properly

[azure oriole]

Sup

[slow sigil]

eternal runs on the switch

[azure oriole]

Sad for me

[slow sigil]

why?

[azure oriole]

Im on steam
And doesn't have that

Always wanted to play but cant afford it

[slow sigil]

...have what?

[azure oriole]

Shit always happens to me

[azure oriole]

Eternals

[slow sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890909009526267935/1338917987716960297/image.png?ex=67acd40c&is=67ab828c&hm=7a33a4cbfbd571470f4c62a1b9e3b6182b869c7ce7bb9b7b25badd122356fde2& 🤔

[graceful kettle]

sorry but that's kinda funny lol

[slow sigil]

so what games can you afford

[graceful kettle]

Eternals

[slow sigil]

is it just ftp

[azure oriole]

Yeah now i have become joke
Destroyer of idk

[graceful kettle]

that's so expensive compared to the price I got it for

I don't remember exactly but it must've been like 16 R$

which would be like 3 dollars

[slow sigil]

yeah but you would also have Brazilian wage lmfao

[graceful kettle]

shut up 😭

[slow sigil]

comperatively it's still roughly equivelant to the buying power of 10 euros

[azure oriole]

U making fun of me
I live in india
This shit is expensive in my country

[slow sigil]

oh yeah wasn't india also victim of the people switching their region to it?

and it was mostly an actual question

[azure oriole]

Well im the loyal one

One day one day im gonna purchase thay

Wish me luck

[graceful kettle]

some friendly advice, you should work on that english

[azure oriole]

Some friends advice, you should go back to your country

[slow sigil]

💥

[azure oriole]

DAMN.

[gray rivet]

Oh boy

[graceful kettle]

I didn't know I ever left lol

[azure oriole]

Then stop pretending like you aren't one

[graceful kettle]

that I'm not what

[azure oriole]

Oh please stop acting all tuff
We all know that

Go back to phonk

[austere bronze]

Maybe time to stop this conversation? Lol

[azure oriole]

I agree
I dont wanna DOOM his tiny ego

[austere bronze]

agrees to end it
immediately goes back to insults...

[azure oriole]

@austere bronze looks like you are the gud one here

Hello friend

hello

[graceful kettle]

I was just trying to tell you that you're hard to understand sometimes because your english isn't great yet

you gotta improve on it, man

[azure oriole]

Understood major

[azure oriole]

you're*

Well i didnt meant to offend ya
My bad if i did
But
You know text dont have emotions
I thought u making fun of me

[graceful kettle]

actually that would've been yru'oe

[graceful kettle]

it's alright

[azure oriole]

Thanks man
Now lets settle down with a french kiss

[wanton atlas]

[storm eagle]

Y'all have personal issues 😂

[gray rivet]

Lol

[storm eagle]

don't respond.

[graceful kettle]

all I did was tell him to improve his english 😭

[austere bronze]

Hi urmom

[storm eagle]

Hello!

[austere bronze]

Hop on SvS...

[azure oriole]

Mother dairy
Tasty very very

Oh it was london dairy

My bad

[storm eagle]

You're very funny and we're all laughing. Anyway, what's everyone playing in Eternal today?

[graceful kettle]

I bought the game for like the 3rd time

[azure oriole]

Who told u to laugh

[graceful kettle]

I'm gonna get all achievements on steam

[storm eagle]

how come three times?

[graceful kettle]

I just got done with 100% and extra life mode yesterday

[austere bronze]

I have not touched Eternal today

Except for at like 12:00 AM, but I don't count that lol

[graceful kettle]

on the xbox, on the switch and now on steam now that I managed to buy a beefy PC

[young mango]

I haven’t touched eternal since I played SGN

[storm eagle]

Ohh I see. Nice!

[young mango]

Lord

[gray rivet]

Finishing up my current nightmare run. I'm on Urdak then once I finish gonna start TAG 1.cant wait

[storm eagle]

<@&162901871168585728>

[graceful kettle]

the hit song by osees???

[storm eagle]

That's awesome, is this the first Nightnare run for you or just a replay?

[gray rivet]

Just a replay

[storm eagle]

You're annoying and can't seem to stop

[gray rivet]

Don't know if I should do TAG 1 on Nightmare tho

I think I will

[austere bronze]

It's foine

[austere bronze]

Hell yea

[storm eagle]

Try it out! You can if you've done the campaign for sure

[buoyant hearth]

Just helped em with that :^)

[storm eagle]

Thank you!

[graceful kettle]

same, I'm gonna start TAG1 today

replaying it I mean

[gray rivet]

Siiick

I haven't played since it was released

[graceful kettle]

I can't wait, it's my favorite part of the whole game

if the rest of doom eternal is a masterpiece I don't even know what to call blood swamps

[storm eagle]

@graceful kettle Honestly I give you credit for continuing to play it on multiple platforms. That's hard to do

[graceful kettle]

why?

the game is a joy to replay

it sucks losing my skins and all but they're just skins

[storm eagle]

Oh I started and console and I found it really difficult personally. Then switched to pc

[graceful kettle]

I didn't have the option to play it on PC so I beat the game twice on xbox and once on the switch

[storm eagle]

Oh I didn't mean for continuing to play it because I was saying it's boring. I meant the skill it takes to do it on different things like console then pc

[waxen adder]

Just started tag1

[graceful kettle]

but I always wanted to play on PC to get better quickswapping action

[lyric reef]

I feel like TAG level design is very strong

[waxen adder]

Holy fucking crap it's hard but a very very good kind of hard

[lyric reef]

The combat is tedious at times tho

[austere bronze]

Te, TAG's awesome

[lyric reef]

But man the missions are beautiful

[austere bronze]

Although it isn't as hard as people make it out to be

[graceful kettle]

I don't agree

[young mango]

yes

[storm eagle]

yeah it's so much easier for that

[austere bronze]

Final sin and urdak were already placing a lot of demons in their fights

[lyric reef]

Idk how people quickswap as fast as I’ve seen in videos I be pressing 5 and 6 as fast as I can but man I still ain’t super good

[lyric reef]

I don’t remember who either of those are

[graceful kettle]

it took me a while to get used to DE on PC but it worked out

[austere bronze]

Last and second to last base game levels

[austere bronze]

Rebind your weapons to be around WASD/on your mouse

[graceful kettle]

I changed my binds to RDFG instead of WASD which might sound bizarre for some people

[austere bronze]

Anything further away than 4 is way too far away

[graceful kettle]

I don't have a good mouse with extra buttons and all

so it has to be all on KB

[austere bronze]

I also have everything on my keyboard, I like that more tbh

[graceful kettle]

I put the SSG and the ballista on A/S and dash on Z

rocket launcher on H

precision bolt on E

[austere bronze]

And you only really swap super fast with pb+rocket/stickies because of something called FSE (fast swap effect)

[graceful kettle]

and the rest of the weapons on 4567

[azure oriole]

bind jump to m2

[graceful kettle]

no way

actually

you might be onto something. You'd free your thumb

[lyric reef]

But those are the movement keys

[austere bronze]

Essentially you just make the rocket and combat shotgun fast as fast as the heavy cannon, which looks like this
https://youtu.be/Ll6I-pKncZE?si=dZeahC4pifcuDDkF

[waxen adder]

The more I'm playing this game the more I'm loving it

I think I can't finally handle nightmare now

[austere bronze]

(There was some pumch canceling too, which is when you cancel the animations of weapons with the punch)

[lyric reef]

I appreciate that alt-tabbing in this game pauses it cause for some reason my mouse has a button on the side that I accidentally press sometimes which will alt-tab me and it’s screwed me over in the past with other games

[austere bronze]

Yeah, your fingers will always be there, meaning it's easier to swap weapons that way

[graceful kettle]

be warned that if you couldn't beat the campaign on nightmare, you'll have a hard time if you switch for TAG1

[waxen adder]

Yeah I expect that but I'm doing good so far(like 20 mins into the first level)

lol

[graceful kettle]

the holt is the hardest, easily

it has some crazy arenas

[young mango]

imma skip the hard arenas lel

[neon temple]

I hate cultist base on ultra nightmare

[graceful kettle]

i think everyone does

for the sake of my own sanity, I stop myself from dedicating to ultra nightmare

[austere bronze]

UN sucks lol

[neon temple]

It’ll drive you crazy lol

[graceful kettle]

I can beat every level in the game individually without dying but doing them all in a row

it's not for me

the time investment is too big

[azure oriole]

now do it on UN

[gray rivet]

I'd like to beat it one day but after 10 tries yea I'm done for now xd

[graceful kettle]

cultist base is my least favorite level in the game, even outside UN

it's too damn long and boring

[lyric reef]

i appreciate that the "kill 200 opponents" achievement in battlemode isnt tied to slayer or demons

i genuinely think thatll be the most tedious of the battlemode achievements

[graceful kettle]

I had that achievement on xbox iirc, not 100% sure

[lyric reef]

i got like 2000/5000 damage and 20000/50000 healing last night in a few matches, but im only at like 6 kills

[graceful kettle]

I wish I could transfer my progress from XB to PC tbh

that's gonna be a slog to grind

[austere bronze]

I actually UNed something yesterday for the first time in like forever, I'm quite happy with the run too

[gray rivet]

Nice

[graceful kettle]

battlemode isn't that bad, but it isn't great either

it feels that bad because you'd rather be playing the campaign

[austere bronze]

modded mulitplayer❤️

[lyric reef]

its fun, so at least it has that going for it

unlike horde mode, which is abyssmal

[azure oriole]

I remember you already UNed bob-omb battlefield and with some crazy restrictions

[graceful kettle]

I liked horde mode :(

I beat it on nightmare

[austere bronze]

nah, I just tried to for manyy hours, never succeeded tho😢

[lyric reef]

[graceful kettle]

on perfect score as well

[austere bronze]

now I came back and UNed it with a decent chunk of restrictions first try

[azure oriole]

Battlemode is a good game but a bad doom game

[graceful kettle]

I placed #1 in the ranking

[lyric reef]

worst 2 hours spent on this game

[austere bronze]

sub 10 minutes too, which I haven't seen anyone do

[lyric reef]

last night when i played battlemode i had 2 insane games

[austere bronze]

although if I watched the entire end credits it would've been more like 10:30

[graceful kettle]

fallout community be like

[lyric reef]

one in which 2 matches went on for like 6 minutes each because me and the other demon were fairly evenly matched with the doom slayer, so the healing and damaging was back and forth, but ultimately we won, and then the next match i played as a pain elemental and creamed the slayer 3 matches back to bcak

bro could not catch a break

[lyric reef]

dont disrespect fallout

[graceful kettle]

fallout fans wake up and go like "this cereal is a good corn but it's a bad popcorn corn"

[lyric reef]

wtf does thta even mean

[graceful kettle]

you should ask them

[lyric reef]

im a fallout fan bro

i got all achievements in fallout 4 and new vegas

[graceful kettle]

well, clearly not a real one

they were smart in making battlemode take only 3 players

they knew it would flop

[lyric reef]

fair

i feel like putting a multiplayer mode into a singleplayer game will always be weird

[cloud harness]

Doom always done that for ages

[azure oriole]

you mean….

dark ages?

[storm eagle]

I was just gonna say that lol

[austere bronze]

the ages sure are dark

but we must doom... eternally

[storm eagle]

no comments for 2016 because it doesn't work with this hahah

[austere bronze]

I'm expecting fifty-eleven lines like that from TDA lol

[storm eagle]

YUP

fifty-eleven😂

[graceful kettle]

why not 2016 lines like that

[storm eagle]

I can't think of one

[graceful kettle]

I mean TDA will have precisely 2016 lines like that

[austere bronze]

because the game sux balls!!

[graceful kettle]

I agree

[storm eagle]

huh

Now I'm mostly confused lol

[graceful kettle]

I wasted my money buying that garbage. I was gonna replay it but every second I could only think of playing eternal instead

it's not garbage it's very nice :)

but it's garbage and it sucks

[austere bronze]

wat

[storm eagle]

I liked it but that's for a different day in a different chat. It's not garbage, that's pretty harsh.

[austere bronze]

yeah, 2016 is a good game

[fringe torrent]

If 2016 is considered garbage, I'm gonna become a dumpster diver

[graceful kettle]

yeah I was kinda joking

[austere bronze]

but Eternal is just a lot better

[graceful kettle]

I don't think the game is garbage at all. It's a pretty damn great game

[austere bronze]

oh lol

[graceful kettle]

but I can't stand playing it anymore

[storm eagle]

ohh gotcha

[graceful kettle]

before eternal came out

sure

[storm eagle]

understandable

[fossil fable]

can i put a command in console in doom eternal for the corpses to not dissapear?

[austere bronze]

there's a mod for it

[graceful kettle]

stop thinking of 2016 like the title of the game

it's a number

[fossil fable]

doesnt work with just a command?

[lyric reef]

why do you want that?

[graceful kettle]

TDA will have a number of stupid lines equal to the number 2016

[gray rivet]

No don't!

[austere bronze]

I don't know any, but you'd have to be on a modded version of the game to use commands anyways

[fossil fable]

g_corpseLimit 0

[lyric reef]

?

[graceful kettle]

seems fun

[gray rivet]

You'll get him started, he was going on a tirade in the other channel

[graceful kettle]

imagine the corpses piling up

[storm eagle]

like classic doom deathmatch

[gray rivet]

And your frames dropping xd

[austere bronze]

the frames are pretty stable with the mod, surprisingly

[azure oriole]

it doesnt affect that much on performance

[gray rivet]

Word

[azure oriole]

it does affect ai spawns tho

since for some fucking reason dead ai still counts as active ai

[graceful kettle]

"what is this, some kind of eternal doom?"

• Doom guy on the level "Dune Thermal" from TDA

[austere bronze]

loll

[storm eagle]

interesting

[azure oriole]

ai_death_fadedelay

gibs will still disappear tho

And if you set the value too high spawns will break

[fossil fable]

an actual genius, thanks

[graceful kettle]

"What?! I thought I left you in the dark ages ago!"

"I'm going to leave you in the dark for ages" will be his new catchphrase, mark my words

[azure oriole]

Hey guys just wanted to ask, I put my game screen in windowed so I open another app, but the mouse won't leave the game screen any help?

[lusty lark]

you can use full screen mode but make sure there is anything still running the background(like file explorer) so you can leave the game by using Alt+Tab

[azure oriole]

Thanks for the help🫡

[digital latch]

Hey guys. Help needed. I wanted to play Doom Eternal on my RTX 4090 laptop before the release of Dark Ages. I installed it yesterday.But I am experiencing severe crashing. It runs silky smooth at around 250FPS for a few minutes, and then just shuts down.

I remember playing it on my 1050ti without any issues, 4 years ago. I have tried every setting. Any solution will be greatly appreciated.

[austere bronze]

just replayed the final encounter of reclaimed earth

[azure oriole]

hoo boii

[austere bronze]

very neat thing, but some of the waves were just unnecessary

they were pretty easy, so they either could've been removed or merged into 1

[azure oriole]

I was getting destroyed on nightmare lol

[austere bronze]

but just remove some to keep it from being too long

[austere bronze]

understandable lol

Probably my favorite encounter of tag2

But I don't remember a ton of them

Oh wait no, the encounter where you watch a cutscene of some ship flying away (I think) in Immora may be better

I'll have to replay that one too

[young mango]

Replay the entirety of tag2

[fossil breach]

Guys could someone help with the online trophies?

[austere bronze]

No

[young mango]

Okay I’ll do it myself rq

Done

[austere bronze]

😭

[strong lotus]

I swear I'm going to just give up at this point UN is so annoying

[azure oriole]

I have never set foot in UN

I am interested in trying a Tyson run tho

[austere bronze]

What's that

[azure oriole]

It's a well-known and old category for classic doom,
Pistol, fist and chainsaw only

Based on Mike Tyson

I think I could implement it in DOOM Eternal

[strong lotus]

with the pistol mod?

[azure oriole]

good luck

that is an interesting challenge though

Hmm combat shotgun

There is one youtuber who did a combat shotgun-only run and a pistol-only run (tho that youtuber appeared to become politically incorrect and shit in places so I'm not comfortable linking them here)

i might try it in classic doom

Sad when a gaming challenge youtuber becomes political all of the sudden

That guy even went as far 'UNMODDED' combat shotgun, which sounds pretty crazy

[austere bronze]

That's just boring as fuuuck lol

[azure oriole]

And it's kinda sad the pistol got cut out entirley. Fit combat flow or not, it was literally a finished weapon lol

[azure oriole]

Yeah... If I did a Tyson run I'd allow mods. Those combat shotgun mods are awesome

[austere bronze]

It would've been antithetical to the gameplay, good it was cut out tbh

[azure oriole]

fair enuff

I tried out FUll Auto mode more today during Classic Mode SGN Master Level, it's surprisingly good sometimes, I slept on it

[austere bronze]

Yeah full auto's nice

[azure oriole]

I did not have much a choice when I only had that combat shotgun with mods and the heavy cannon, so I just froze a tyrant and tried out full auto. I haven't even fully upgradeed it yeet so no shotgun ammo for me, but it still worked wonders

I only exploited it in Ancient Gods DLCs

[austere bronze]

I would strongly recommend to use it as a finisher for that sweet free ammo

[azure oriole]

I still kinda prefer sticky bombs. EXPLOSIONS.

Explosive shot... big clutch for D2016. I love when I looked up a 'Nightmare' guide for DOOM 2016, one of the first tips was 'GET EXPLOSIVE SHOT'

[austere bronze]

Preferring stickies is understandable, but there's no reason to choose a mod and only use that one

[azure oriole]

Fair. On a Tyson run I'd use both for sure

[austere bronze]

If you wanna swap them with extra efficiency you can do something called SMS (silent mod swapping)

Literally all you do is: fire a weapon, swap, immediately press the mod swap button

Assuming you pressed the mod swap button fast enough, the first weapon you had equipped will swap mods without you seeing the animation

[willow belfry]

Doom 2016 can be summed up with Siege mode and Rich get richer

It's the early game that's a bitch on UN

[grim radish]

facts

[frank drum]

playing SGN ML after some id studio custom levels made me appreciate just how damn good it is

[frank drum]

early game its just insufferable

[willow belfry]

Hard to think of Imps as dangerous

But they are in 2016s early game

[azure oriole]

absolutely lol
On nightmare I died in the tutorial room 4-5 times to Imps

70-80 damage from a fireball. Lovely times

at least it makes you feel like you are on a real nightmare difficulty lol

Absolutely yes walt

and I had some fun times

[strange gale]

real difficulty is instakill projectiles and cover shooter gameplay

[azure oriole]

at least its something

Eternal's nightmare feels like UV

[azure oriole]

I am guilty of this on higher difficulties sometimes

[young mango]

I did a pistol only run of super gore nest master level and I’m not politically incorrect

[azure oriole]

You are cool

I'll check more of your channel

Plobbus isn't it? I'm curious now

[young mango]

Yeah

[azure oriole]

id should have gone with fast monsters on nightmare

found the SGN video, I'll give it a watch before bedtime

[young mango]

Give this man a true

[fossil pagoda]

What are y'all key binds for SSG and ballista?

I use Q and E but thinking of switchint to scroll up and down

Is it any better?

[azure oriole]

That's the neat part... I don't keybind

Console player moment for me

[azure oriole]

Watched your SGN video. Damn GG, on Nightmare to boot. That's crazy

[gray rivet]

Yo random question but what happened with bobthebob? He gone?

[young mango]

That happened like 2 years ago

Going on 3 I think

[gray rivet]

Ohhh! You're plobbus

Niice lol

[gray rivet]

Do I have to actually fire the weapon?

[azure oriole]

i would say something but i know this is true compared to 2016's nightmare

I guess Eternal's nightmare shouldn't be too bad if I ever decide to do it then (I already did Ancient Gods 2 nightmare for some weapon skins)
I'll sleep on it, wonder if i'll be sniping arachnotrons in my dreams. C ya

[strange gale]

have you beaten UN?

[azure oriole]

nuh uh

[lyric reef]

tryna play battlemode and work on the achievements a little in randoms and man it takes forever to find a lobby

the doom slayer fuckin left

[pseudo trellis]

i saw a doom eternal deluxe edition on the ps store today for like 23 CAD, is it worth it?

it has the ancient gods 1 and 2 and a skin

[low ingot]

Yes because it’s better than buying the Ancient Gods DLCs individually because you save some money and the fact you get a cool skin just makes it 10x better

[lyric reef]

ive been in the same lobby with 2 randoms like 3 times in a row now cause nobody else is playing ig

[frank drum]

do you guys think ice bomb is fun? i was thinking on stop using it, it feels a little cheap

[tame violet]

oh hey Tammie, nice to have you back!

[young mango]

Yeah just needed a short break

[lyric reef]

tried doing a match as the slayer and holy shit i got creamed

turns out when the demons have human intelligence im really bad at this game

[lyric reef]

what the hell is your pfp dude

[pseudo trellis]

Thanks, just ordered it!

[pseudo trellis]

why?

[low ingot]

He’s definitely a emerald edger

No doubt

[strange gale]

true!

[strong lotus]

Mostly fine if I have that one suit upgrade I just use it for bonus damage

[lyric reef]

anyone on pc able to help me grind out a couple battlemode achievements?

[strong lotus]

What are some good weapon combo for the Mancubus around Cultist base equipment

[gray rivet]

I tried it you indeed have to fire first. Can confirm.

[lyric reef]

i just need one more person to help me out on pc battlemode

[gray rivet]

Hell nah, I'm using

Bfg and crucible are cheap if anything

[gray rivet]

Honestly it depends on the encounter within the level in my opinion

[young mango]

Everything is cheap, destroy the demons with your mind

[gray rivet]

Forreal 😭

[strong lotus]

Im trying to deal with this level easier for future UN runs since some the harder encounters have the Mancubus

[young mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1077069514505728152/1334325965874139167/vcompress_94-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[strong lotus]

Woah not talking about that encounter but cool tip

[gray rivet]

First encounter with the three mancubus use pb rocket and sticky bimbs and grenades and be very fucking careful

[young mango]

I like finding opportunities to use this as a reaction gif

[gray rivet]

Lol

Abuse lock in burst in the encounter after you get the upgrade drone thingy

[strong lotus]

I will

[young mango]

The second wave of mancubi in the beginning don’t spawn until the first one + the imps are dead so my strat is just killing the imps and waiting for the manc to walk over to the pendulum, then I just spam pb sticky or pb punch swap on the other two

Having a heat blast charged up is nice to have, also for some reason sticky bombs are the only thing that deal extra damage on weak points so keep that in mind if quick switching isn’t your thing

[lunar jewel]

If BFG-9,000 was a hitscan...

[strange gale]

balanced rando keeps spawning barons in exultia n it's a pretty massive copium dose when it comes to tda's potential un mode

[frank drum]

crucible its not that cheap

[strange gale]

that is, you can put mid game enemies into the early levels and it'll just work

[young mango]

2x game speed 3x projectile speed and a slider that goes up to what looks like 300% damage scaling is promising

[strange gale]

i'm not too hype about just turning up the numbers

it usually doesn't create a meaningful difference in how you approach things

[young mango]

well it’s not ideal but it is a step up from eternal being a raw damage increase with slightly changed enemy behavior, behavior that is beneficial sometimes

[strange gale]

true

randomization is simple but it just works, provided it has some guard rails

n it's significantly less work than making entirely new encounters

[young mango]

30 whatever the hells in dark ages in level 1🔥🔥

[strange gale]

i see people in here complaining about "so and so weapons aren't enough to fight such and such enemies" which really isn't true

dealing with more/a larger variety/a novel combination of enemies using your endgame kit is what makes master levels such an effective difficulty modifier

that goes for rando as well

you deal with more than you usually would using a limited kit which you have to work around

challenge runs in general are so much more fun than the same thing but with xyz numbers turned up

the one number i'm a big fan of being turned up is tokens

[young mango]

I’ve never really seen a big difference between inf tokens and no inf tokens

I might’ve just not used it enough

[strange gale]

it hits a wall eventually

it'd probably be more noticeable with a higher entity limit

[strange gale]

this is why speedrunning is so great too

it's not just doing the same thing but better

the objective shifts from "just don't die lol" to optimizing for speed

[young mango]

Speed running mentioned 🗣️

[strange gale]

so true...

[young mango]

UN speed running sucks though

[strange gale]

me love cutscene

[young mango]

Hundo it’s more acceptable but UN any% sucks cuz enemy capping

[strange gale]

oh yeah

shit just spawns too slow

or not at all 🌝

[young mango]

for TAG2 unrestricted there’d effectively be no difference but restarting is still slow as hell

speaking of TAG2, Immora is the worst culprit of enemy capping because of demonic troopers

oh your meat hook off the pain elemental gave you slightly less speed than you wanted well now you’ve gotta ditch the run

There’s two kinds of people who run UN any%, those who know what they are doing, or those who just want to say they did it and actually don’t know how to speedrun

I was admittedly guilty of the latter at one point

[strange gale]

the latter is just a normal UN run

[young mango]

yeah

https://youtu.be/nUu0lFyjGv4?si=_wC1XtteuUtTyniS

I did a hundo run for TAG2 at one point but the time was something like 32 minutes and I got a chainsaw zip in immora so I decided to never submit it to boards

[strange gale]

but it's unrestricted practice 🌝

[young mango]

I’m not undeceiver😭

[true pumice]

Hey guys I need some help im trying to play doom but it maxes out my fps to 240 and I don’t know how to turn it down I don’t want crash my game could anyone help?

[gleaming needle]

Anybody could help me boost through multiplayer trophies?

[spare junco]

Do I always have to recollect every weapon in Horde mode every time I start it up or if I get them all the first time I play do I just have them from the start every time

[gray rivet]

You always start from nothing

[strange gale]

new rando pb 🥳 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504714848194527236/1339102004190121984/image.png

[azure oriole]

now do it on un

[strange gale]

🦮🧑‍🦯 holy

[austere bronze]

If you do a mod swap before swapping weapon too, you don't have to fire the weapon
This is called silent BATS

Can be neat because you're doing a mod swap cancel at the same time

[austere bronze]

It's useful with the lock-on, and ballista

Since you can swap away from them much faster if you do a mod swap cancel

[waxen adder]

I've been playing level on of tag1 on nightmare and goddamn

It's difficult and I'm dying a bunch but I'm still having fun

[gentle furnace]

I have doom eternal on my steam deck and on my PlayStation so I have no reason to buy it on anything else yet for some reason i still want doom eternal on my Nintendo switch

[sleek basin]

Ballista boost is life saving on taras nabad especially on the first arena archivile spawns in

[stable marlin]

You can’t blast a hole into the surface of Mars

[pulsar hornet]

"Hold my beer..."

[sleek basin]

Hold my super shotgun

[azure oriole]

did you get to blood swamps yet

the 2 trials will kick your ass

i got absolutely fried by the possessed baron after losing the 2 extra lives i had before

all in the same fight

even using the chaingun shield could not do enough damage to save me

[clear spade]

The plasma beam is key here

[queen idol]

So...I've fought my first possessed Marauder.

I've shit myself.

[austere bronze]

How'd it go?

[restive oasis]

hey guys DE seems to delete my save file after exiting the game

doesn't matter how far my progress is, if I exit to the main menu its saved but if I exit out of the game and restart its no longer there

I'm playing offline mode on steam btw

and nightmare not ultra nightmare

[waxen adder]

No lol

[dire elm]

hey guys has anyone had problems with Treasure hunter achievement? I have done everything and still it doenst pop up

[waxen adder]

I'm at the double marauder arena

(The fight after is way tougher than two marauders)

[nova vector]

May be due to a save file program error or a glitch.

Try searching it on the web.

[queen idol]

A amazing challenge

Even tho it took me 6 mins due of these imps feeding the marauder shield for his dog.

Good thing the wolf got stuck in a jump pad

[austere bronze]

Haha, nice

[queen idol]

He was stupid fast

I just got both the dlc yesterday, kicking the icon of sin kinda get boring

[austere bronze]

ah neat, have you tried the master levels at all?

[queen idol]

I did. Super gore nest 3 years ago

Ultra-violence

[austere bronze]

lol

[queen idol]

I've stopped playing 3 years ago, but memory muscles do come back as the adrenaline kicking in

[austere bronze]

yup, can relate somewhat there

[queen idol]

The ssg+balista combo is a classic

[austere bronze]

I played through half the campaign very early 2023, then quit and came back late 2023

[queen idol]

My brother gave me a 50$ gift card since he was satisfied with doom once he tried

At first he was not certain, then he didn't regret it

So yeah. I tried the nightmare difficulty and it was a bit too much pressure for my autistic brain

[austere bronze]

yeah that's fair, I personally started at the easiest difficulty

[gray rivet]

Hello, I'm wondering why pb sticky appears to be somewhat prominent. Aren't other combos much better? Or do they just use it for fun and creative purposes?

[austere bronze]

because you can apply FSE (fast swap effect) to the combat shotgun, this allows it to swap much faster than it normally could

[queen idol]

We all start somewhere, as long having fun matters

Since I'm console

[austere bronze]

different weapons have different bring up and bring down speeds, and the slow firing weapons have a slower swap speed

[queen idol]

Such as the balista

[austere bronze]

you can give FSE to the combat shotgun and the rocket launcher, allowing you to do stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll6I-pKncZE

[gray rivet]

Damn that's sick

Thank you for the explanation

[young mango]

FSE on ballista😢

[austere bronze]

that's nerd behaviour

[gray rivet]

Not sick? 😭

[austere bronze]

it is actually sick, but kinda obscure and almost a frame perfect tech

[gray rivet]

Gotcha

Does FSE transfer to the rocket launcher

[austere bronze]

yes

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/AU4Huc8ed-Q?si=DiOHCQAJCr698f0M

[austere bronze]

there are tons of FSE activators (tons), but pb is mostly used

[gray rivet]

Ah so pb sticky kinda is used for fun and creative purposes

[austere bronze]

sticky bombs can transfer FSE to the rocket launcher

[gray rivet]

Ohhh OK that answers my question

[gray rivet]

I see I see

[austere bronze]

would be cool to git gud at dblade wack swapps, since they're honestly just cool and a flex to use

[queen idol]

Whenever I see Archi

I bully with/without crucible

[austere bronze]

I can only do it consistently if only the first pip is charged, but it just gets harder the more it's charged😭

[dire elm]

can someone help with the treasure hunter achievement it doesnt work

[gray rivet]

Wack swaps You say? Would you mind explaining

[austere bronze]

sure

[azure oriole]

can you give tips on how to do the left trial in blood swamps when youre done

i have 0 extra lives remaining so i gotta do it in 1 shot

[austere bronze]

if you fire the ssg, ballista, rocket, or combat shotgun, press your heavy cannon bind, and then the bind of a weapon you can apply FSE to, the weapon you first fired will do a kind of buffer animation, and then swap to the other weapon, and then you'll have FSE applied to it

[gray rivet]

Jesus

[austere bronze]

it's easiest done with the ballista base fire

ssg is a bit harder, same with the rocket launcher, and then the combat shotgun is the hardest

dblade is however even harder

[gray rivet]

Gotcha gotcha, thanks for explaining. I know that tech is pinned in this channel but I don't remember seeing wack swaps

[young mango]

My bad, I didn’t deem them major enough, I’ll put them there

I should probably dedicate a section to less practical tech

[nova vector]

The demons...they are..everywhere. Kill them... Must kill them ALL.

[gray rivet]

@young mango awesome, are you editing the existing document?

[austere bronze]

@gray rivet here's a video going through some wack swapps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OqELuscmHc

[young mango]

yes

[gray rivet]

Why are they called that? 😭

[austere bronze]

after I fucked up the fully charged dblade wack swap I did 2 wack swaps via mod swap cancelling and buffering with the heavy cannon

[young mango]

Because they look funny, no joke

[austere bronze]

also, I just did a chain of 295 rocket punch swaps lmao

my forearm took a hit from it

thought it was kinda cool

[azure oriole]

how did you acquire 295 rockets

[austere bronze]

infinite ammo

[gray rivet]

That's weird how the fucking code works to allow that to happen

(these things)

[austere bronze]

yeah, true lol

there's so many weird (but amazing) things you can do

[gray rivet]

Furthest I've gone is double dblade, that was cool.

[austere bronze]

oh yeah? nice

learning to mod swap cancel and do one of the easier wack swapps is a good way to enter into the world of tech

if that's something you wanna do

[young mango]

I added SMS and silent BATS to the document because I realized they weren’t there, I’ll get back to the other stuff later

[azure oriole]

Justified

And to imagine that they are arguably more obnoxious in DOOM 2

Everytime I see an Archie I just think 'Oh FFS'

pretty much every heavy demon is worse in doom 2 because you have to actually fight them and take your time instead of just doing a combo that kills them in 3 seconds

[young mango]

This is a certified classic https://youtu.be/3fb99wQ-O5I?si=o01-Zl2BFPXT31eo

[austere bronze]

arcvhiles are a teeny tiny bit overhyped...

[young mango]

I think the tyrant is the most overhyped enemy by far, because it having any hype at all is absurd

[azure oriole]

cyberdemon from wish.com

[azure oriole]

I was about to get defensive but...

You're not wrong really

The only enemy that can tank much is the Tyrant, and he has nothing on Cyberdemon, who I needed 60+ rockets to kill on my first Ultimate Doom playthrough

I probably missed some rockets but still.

When the game suddenly bombards you with high-level ammo, it's not a lucky clutch - it's a warning

Tho yeah one thing that makes Archies infamous is their hitscan in DOOM 2. Tho that's nothing some manouevering can't solve

the pinky/specter is probably the only one that is weaker in doom 2

1 ssg shot takes them down

i guess the same can happen in doom eternal but you need to shoot the back

yeah pinky/specter, point-blank ssg shots are awesome

and shooting the back in DEternal is annoying lol. Although a single blood punch also takes them out hard

And a freeze bomb stops them in their tracks anyways

[austere bronze]

I like just spamming their fronts with rockets/stickies lol

[azure oriole]

kinda same when I can, but usually I try to save a freeze bomb or a puncher

[austere bronze]

I usually don't like getting close to enemies (unless I can just run through them with full auto), and I feel like the ice grenade is better used for other stuff

[white gale]

even if they get one shot by the blood punch, pinkies usually menage to still sneak a hit in before i get to punch them

[azure oriole]

fair

And yeah Icenade is also neat for Archies and - in my case when playing Classic Mode super gore nest - Tyrants

[white gale]

i like meathooking over them or quickly tasing them with the microwave beam

[gray rivet]

Do you guys think LOB is cheap?

[white gale]

also i usually just throw the ice bomb on any big demon that's a problem unless i have the encounter planned out

LOB?

[gray rivet]

Lock on Burst for the rocket launcher

[azure oriole]

remote detonation is better

[white gale]

nah it's just good

[azure oriole]

LOB is cheap for the demons, but I'm doomguy and I shouldn't hold back

No cheat
No problem.

[gray rivet]

Haha well said

[austere bronze]

yes, kinda

[gray rivet]

I need to integrate remote det into my gameplay 😭😭😭

[queen idol]

What i like

Marauder(s)
But archi is just pure hatred, when he summons more shit around

[azure oriole]

I never knew well how archie 'summoned' in DOOM 2. I saw it first hand in Onslaught, in Plutonia. Archie just walking past dead demons and them just standing up like 'oh hello'

[queen idol]

Due of their intellectual

They know shit goes down when you target Archi

[azure oriole]

Archie in DOOM 2:

Hitscans you
Can take a beating
Revives demons by touching them

Archie in Eternal:

Take a moment to spawn demons
Does not hitscan you
Icebomb and two LOBs... fucking dies

[queen idol]

FOR REAL

[azure oriole]

granted, you only need 5-6 rockets to take em down in D2, but lock-on burts is no option there

Did demons get stronger? Nah

Doomguy just got more pissed and resourceful

[queen idol]

The auto-aim rocket mod is gold against Archi

For sure

[queen idol]

Like all Slayers we get pretty pissed off legitimately

[azure oriole]

the only cheat I ever used in Eternal is famine, which another user here recommended me to use, which I did

[azure oriole]

real.

[fringe torrent]

Do DOOM 3 Archie

[azure oriole]

Eh I've only beaten DOOM 3 twice, but let's see...

[fringe torrent]

Two times more than most of its critics

[azure oriole]

DOOM 3 Archie:

Does not hitscan, but his flames are devastating af
Tanky I guess?

I went from Marine/Normal to Nightmare lol, skipping Veteran/Hard entirely

[azure oriole]

DOOM 3 was my second doom game I beat (first was 2016), I only started playing it because I asked people in another server for classic Xbox game tips and someone recommended DOOM 3.

Ironically I ended up buying it on PS4 since it was on heavy sale

and I enjoyed it. Gosh that sound design

[fringe torrent]

Yeah DOOM 3 is great

But that's a conversation for a different place

[azure oriole]

yesyes

as for Eternal... maybe I need to start using destroyer blade lol

I dunno if I'll ever do Ultra-Nightmare in some way but those golden skins are tempting as fuck

[fringe torrent]

Astro Praetor skin 😌

[azure oriole]

I already got all the gold weapon skins except for the combat shotgun (hence why I skipped Ultra-Violence in TAG 2, immediately jumping to Nightmare from Hurt Me Plenty)

[fringe torrent]

Sucks the best SSG skin is locked by a paywall

[azure oriole]

Ebony and Ivory Praetor do kind afit with the golden weapons

[fringe torrent]

I did the same, actually! Nice

[young mango]

i've added information about wackswaps under the FSE section, i'm just going to copy what it says here

FSE is a tech that allows for such things like precision bolt & rocket combos, providing faster bring up and bring down to faster weapons, weapons able to be affected by this are sticky bombs, combat shotgun base fire, rocket launcher, ballista ( with a caveat to be mentioned later ), and the super shotgun, arguably. Things that can apply FSE goes as follows, SSB, full auto ( after 2 shots ), heavy cannon base fire, micro missiles, precision bolt, plasma rifle base fire ( after 8 shots ), heat blast, microwave beam ( after 15 ammo is expended ), super shotgun reload animation, chaingun base fire ( after 6 shots ), unmaykr ( after 5 shots ), wack swaps, and punching, elaborating on what SSB is, it is a way to buffer the sticky bomb so that it applies FSE, which can be done via the following inputs ( fire -> alt fire -> fire ) then you swap out of it or chain it into a punchswap if you so desire. Wack swapping is also a sort of buffering, there's two methods to it, you can either mod swap cancel out of a slower weapon into the heavy cannon and then swap to the weapon you’d like to receive FSE afterwards, or you could fire the weapon you are currently holding, press the heavy cannon bind, and immediately after press the bind of your desired receiving weapon, neither of these methods work when starting with a fast bring-up rapid fire weapon to my knowledge. Elaborating on the ballista being able to receive FSE, the caveat is the window for it to do so is frame perfect, as for the super shotguns debatable place as a receiver, the only known applicator for it currently is the punch, it comes up faster afterwards, and can transfer FSE itself when being shot after a punch.

[white gale]

i get what you mean

but the lux ssg looks amazing with the ebony praetor

[azure oriole]

true

[fringe torrent]

Too bad nowadays you need to buy it

[white gale]

i got it for free when it was actually available

[azure oriole]

There is some sale rn

[white gale]

not on steam

[azure oriole]

ah ok. yeah I'm on PS5

[gray rivet]

Awesome, thank you. I'll read it in depth a little later

[azure oriole]

The cultist base master level... hm...

is that one any good?

[fringe torrent]

Get get get 100%

It's more singleplayer content

That's worth getting

[austere bronze]

Definitely not the best, but if you just got $5 lying around, I'd do it

[white gale]

it's worth it for the shotgun skin also

[azure oriole]

I got money left in my playstation wallet

and it's 2,49 eur now

[gray rivet]

So I actually haven't played any master levels yet. ARC center and Cultis base are different from the other 3 because they did them first?

Like they just threw some heavies and super heavies in?

[white gale]

they're way easier

[gray rivet]

And the other 3 are actually more creative?

[white gale]

compared to what came after

yes

The Taras Nabad ML is basically a new level in my eyes

[austere bronze]

Yeah, they're way easier and got a bit worse enemy placement

[gray rivet]

I thought you don't get any rewards for doing those 2 MLs

[austere bronze]

Yes💯

[azure oriole]

Aight, I'll get rip n tear pack

( i was already considering it )

[fringe torrent]

The shotgun skin is part of the DLC pack the level is in

[gray rivet]

Ohh OK, thanks

[austere bronze]

Cultist base is the only ML I've only played once

[gray rivet]

Word

[white gale]

alongside the doot revenant

[fringe torrent]

I recommend doing the ML on NM immediately, it's really not hard at all

[fringe torrent]

Mid skin tbh

2016 skin or D3 skin would be peak

[white gale]

yea but i just think it's funny

[azure oriole]

I'll take your word for it

[subtle magnet]

speaking of MLs while we're at it
i just beat the campaign on nightmare, loaded up super gore nest master level on the same difficulty, got my ass beat repeatedly on the first sewer part until i gave up

any advice?

[austere bronze]

Do it on NM if that's your usual difficulty

[white gale]

is that the double marauder one?

i forget which encounter is which

[subtle magnet]

no its the double tyrant one

[white gale]

the one in the tiny room?

[subtle magnet]

mhm

[austere bronze]

Not a lot to say except abuse equipment, quick switching and the chaingun shield

[white gale]

just crucible the first one i guess

it's what i usually use my first charge on

pre-emptive destroyer blade is also good when combined with throwing out both of your grenades

does a decent chunk of damage

[austere bronze]

Very good damage

The damage of a fully charged dblade is almost equal to a lock-on burst, and you can hit many enemies with it, making it easily the second best mod in the game

[white gale]

it can put a hell knight in glory kill state

i think that's more or less a lock-on bursts worth of damage

[young mango]

To add onto this, if you’re going up against a baron or tyrant, more than a lock on burst

[austere bronze]

Dblade is 2400 dmg and lock-on is 2700, so yeah

[white gale]

it does more damage on super heavies?

[subtle magnet]

and how much health does the tyrant have again

[young mango]

No, lock on does less

[austere bronze]

No, lock-on deals 30% less damage to tyrants and barons

[austere bronze]

10 000

[white gale]

oh that makes sense

probably would have helped to know that earlier

[dreamy nymph]

Hello :D

[gray rivet]

Hi, I like doom

[white gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/647989245386031114/1339322954982621225/Replay_2025-02-12_20-51-13_-_Trim.mp4

i am getting close to having this one cycle down

just have to be more consistent with it

[austere bronze]

Nice

I'd recommend experimenting with your own random combos with heat blast, blood punch, grenades and feet ballista too though

[white gale]

yeah but i like this one honestly

just feels good and i already use that lock on trick a lot

[gray rivet]

Will feet ballista bypass his shield?

[austere bronze]

Yes

When you've dealt 200 damage to the marauder, you reach the damage falter threshold, so then you can hit him with the ballista splash damage for a falter, albeit it'll be shorter than a normal one

The damage is only stored for a couple seconds though

[gray rivet]

Damn

[austere bronze]

So you can't deal damage, wait 10 seconds, then do feet ballista

[fossil pagoda]

Is Q and E for SSG/ballista better than scroll up/scroll down?

I am having a bit of a conundrum over this

[austere bronze]

I wouldn't really recommend the scroll wheel for any weapon

[fossil pagoda]

Hmm, then:

Q E SSG/Ballista
1 - combat
Z X C - Plasma, Rocket, PB

This is good?

And R - minigun

[austere bronze]

That's good

[white gale]

okay yeah i can't do this under actual pressure just yet

[ocean quartz]

is there any way to rebind the cutscsene skip key? my r key is completely broken (right now im having to paste rs whenever i want to type one) and i'd like to bind it to one of the buttons on the side of my mouse or something

[fossil pagoda]

Flamethrower/Launcher to the side buttons on the mouse(M4 and M5) equipment switch to ctrl and and chainsaw to scroll button?

[austere bronze]

Sounds good

Although I'd personally put whatever you got on Z/X on TAB

I dislike Z and X lol

Do you have punch on F?

[ocean quartz]

because of my keyboard being a little messed up my bindings are weird
that and doom 2016 muscle memory

[fossil pagoda]

Yes

[austere bronze]

based

[polar osprey]

just did the first 2 or 3 rooms of the kaisercampaign

[ocean quartz]

my punch is on f obviously
my equipment use is on E, swapping weapon mods is mouse4, flame belch is mouse5
i mention this specifically because equipment use being on E led to a lot of funny mishaps with explosives

[polar osprey]

kaiser is not kaise-fucking around, this is insane

but to be fair i dont have my "qol" mods which increase ammo a bit and make the slayer a bit faster

[white gale]

my bindings are a little weird

[polar osprey]

i kid you not, im still using the default bindings

[young mango]

I cannot say I’ve been a huge fan of Kaiser campaign tbh, especially since nearly every time I’ve tried critiquing it the guy comes in here responding to like 5 month old messages of mine almost like he’s fishing for stuff to respond to, I’ve given it up for the most part, but it’s odd behavior imo

[white gale]

1-4 is unchanged
f for the ssg
Lalt for ballista
middle mouse for melee
mouse 4 for grenade
mouse 5 for grenade switch

[polar osprey]

cool

[white gale]

it's probably not good but it's what im used to

[ocean quartz]

im just constnatly using the weapon wheel to switch to anything beyond the plasma rifle

[white gale]

that's fair

[ocean quartz]

eternal is the first game thats ever made me use a weapon wheel at all

[azure oriole]

unzased

[ocean quartz]

i think there should be a way to rebind it using console commands, but i have no idea what to actually put in
if anybody knows that would be great

[austere bronze]

you should try and get custom binds and utilize them

[wraith palm]

Go SvS

[storm eagle]

I wanna try svs

[austere bronze]

do it with me

[azure oriole]

show me your svs

[young mango]

i mean i dont exactly have a hate shrine for kaiser campaign, just something i personally didnt like, and the way my criticism was addressed left a bad taste in my mouth

[wraith palm]

There are parts of kaiser campaign that are big time jerkoffism

I agree

[young mango]

The fellow was really polite in response to what I said, but me being as active as I am, and this server being as active as it is, I do not see a scenario where he was not actively searching for messages mentioning himself seeing as it was months old, this might have occurred on even more than one occasion but I wouldn’t want to say something that’s not definitive

[wraith palm]

Where did you hear those words...

[azure oriole]

Actually it's hurt me plenty

But for cultist master level i picked Nightmare

[austere bronze]

good luck😭

either HMP is way too easy for you or you'll have a bad time lol

[azure oriole]

I just beat it

[azure oriole]

@fringe torrent Check screenshots

[austere bronze]

oh, well done!

[azure oriole]

yes yess thanks

I died quite a couple of times and I got a bit frustrated, but it would've been worse if I pick HMP since I would've breezed through it if I did

[austere bronze]

sounds like HMP is too easy for you then

[azure oriole]

now do it on un

[austere bronze]

hop on UV/NM fr

[azure oriole]

The only reason why I started playing on HM is because I started on it iwth all the other doom games

Granted, in classic doom, HMP was the middle difficulty. Now Ulta-Violence is

[austere bronze]

fair

[ocean quartz]

oh wait uv is?
i thought hmp was
ive been playing on that the whole time

[austere bronze]

you can turn up the difficulty in the middle of a campaign playthrough though

[azure oriole]

Yeah now we got Nightmare and Ultra-Nightmare and Nightmare is no longer the joke difficulty it was in classic doom

[subtle magnet]

i finally beat the sgn ml on nightmare

i love it so much but the first sewer room and the final arena before the escape sequence made me want to eat shit and die

[azure oriole]

I also picked I'm Too Young To Die for my extra live mode+no upgrades run and before Final Sin I lost basically nothing, felt a bit too easy sometimes lol

[fringe torrent]

Sweet!

[austere bronze]

there's no real consensus for the normal difficulty

[azure oriole]

I think Hurt Me Plenty is the clear normal difficulty (developers describing it as doing meaningful damage etc), but Ultra-Violence is far more popular

My combat shotgun finally has a neat skin now

[austere bronze]

yeah, the code refers to HMP as normal

I'd say more people play HMP than UV too

at least in my experience

[azure oriole]

I see

[white gale]

Excellent work

[austere bronze]

fuk yea

[azure oriole]

As for challenge runners... well I don't watch a lot of those. But it's often UV or Nightmare. I've seen Mitten Squad (rip him) pick I'm too young to die for his no weapon mods run, which still made for a cool video

[azure oriole]

thankss yes

[austere bronze]

i really like the first sewer thing tbh

[azure oriole]

And GG to @subtle magnet
Super gore nest on Nightmare sounds like hell lol.
Classic Hurt Me Plenty got me raging hard

[austere bronze]

that's with the double cacos, doom hunter, and dread knight? right

or something like that

[white gale]

I think they were talking about the tiny room with two tyrants in it

[subtle magnet]

mhm

[austere bronze]

ah, I like how the demons put pressure on the pressure very well tbh

I kinda wanna replay the level now

I haven't done it in forever

[subtle magnet]

forgot to mention

spectres also spawn immediately after you kill the cybermancubi and dread knight

THEN the tyrants spawn on the other section

i hate cramped spaces sm

[austere bronze]

I like how it kinda forces you to approach fights differently

especially if you don't use the chaingun shield

[young mango]

NM and UN are identical asides from permadeath, I wouldn’t go as far to say UN is a separate difficulty, more like a mode, it’s even categorized separately, leaving you with 4 main difficulties, making referring to anything as the “normal” difficulty without additional context confusing

[azure oriole]

fair enough

[azure oriole]

Yeah I've always considered Hurt Me Plenty the normal mode

but I'm willing to continue more on the UV/NM grind

[young mango]

Also in classic doom there was “hey not too rough” so even barring nightmare people wouldn’t automatically know you’re talking about HMP when you say “normal”

[azure oriole]

aight

I very rarely really say 'normal' to begin with regarding doom

[fringe torrent]

Hey, not too rough sounds way more neutral than Hurt Me Plenty too

[azure oriole]

ok

[azure oriole]

hey not too rough is the most pointless difficulty in doom history

normal ammo pickups with itytd enemy count

shouldve left it out

meh I don't care it's in there
I just don't pick it lol

[cloud harness]

Hurt me more

[young mango]

It was 1993, arcade cabinets were still a pretty prevalent thing, can’t blame them for not having perfect game design

[azure oriole]

I did not know there was no consensus about 'normal' mode, learned something new I guess.

Well, It's a good thing I always refer to the difficulties by what they are called, then

[azure oriole]

hurt me plenty is what the other difficulties are based around

yep

[young mango]

maybe in other games, but doom eternal was built around UV, at least it seems that way, since its damage scaling is 100%, ITYTD’s is 40%, HMP is 70%, and NMs is 200%

[azure oriole]

oh ok

the difficulty's description made me believe otherwise, with HMP calling it meaningful damage and UV more damage... but ok

In either case, what matters is that I am willing to step up my game where I need to

[young mango]

To be fair the descriptions aren’t 100% accurate, nightmares says something about very few mistakes are allowed which is very debatable

[azure oriole]

And apparently, the code, too

[azure oriole]

Pretty much

[azure oriole]

ive had 1 nightmare playthrough and i can confirm this is true

but yeah I've always considered Ultra-Nightmare as another difficulty, but if people consider it more of a mode (which I can understand), sure

[young mango]

I might just be experienced, but it feels like nightmare can be very generous

[azure oriole]

definitely an accurate description for a newcome

It can be generous sometimes yes

[austere bronze]

nightmare objectively allows for you to make a few suboptimal decisions, but so does essentially everything

it's pretty much not possible to play the game perfectly

[azure oriole]

Then there's horde mode where I lost countless extra lives near the end of the bonus waves on the lowest difficulty

[azure oriole]

lol I remember the fella who did a 'no health damage' run. Reset after reset lol

[young mango]

I did that for SGN ML once

[graceful kettle]

I ❤️ monkey bars

[azure oriole]

then theres the chad raitro who did it with no damage at all

yeah I think it was raitro

did he do 'no damage at all'? no armor damage too? I'll look into it
I have watched his 3-game marathon video

no health damage was another dude

Aight thanks

that guy allowed armor damage

oh yeah Senza

raitro did no damage at apl

I'll watch Raitro's video later

[austere bronze]

monkey bars are underrated

[graceful kettle]

yeah it very much depends on how hard you are on yourself lol

[azure oriole]

I was also highly impressed by Raitro beating D2016 on Nightmare with only a pistol, lord

[azure oriole]

except when you try to meathook to a demon and then you swing off of it ruining whatever you were tryna do

[austere bronze]

yeah I'm always thinking about all the fuck-ups I make

[graceful kettle]

yeah

or sometimes i'm like

"damn, that was perfect!" and i watch the clip and i'm playing all sloppy 😭

[austere bronze]

oh hahaha yeah that too

[azure oriole]

My subconscious watching me play D Eternal on Nightmare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_cY8hSbdAo

[austere bronze]

sometimes I think I'm cooking, then I watch the footage and think I'm just bleh

[graceful kettle]

ikr

[azure oriole]

all that matters is you feel like you are dominating in the moment

[graceful kettle]

your brain just deletes the parts about you bumping into enemies or missing ledges to make you feel better

[azure oriole]

Some dirty secrets of me:

1. I camp in classic doom a lot, I have camped on higher difficulties in Eternal
2. I clutch on that Chaingun Shield
3. I weapon wheel glitch'd my way through D16 Nightmare lol

A part of me thinks 'well, you won Nightmare', but another part of me doesn't feel so good lol

[graceful kettle]

on the icon of sin i always camp a little on that part in the middle of the arena

[young mango]

This issue feels worse with speedrunning because there’s like objective ways to tell if you could’ve done better or not

[azure oriole]

problem is that I'm on console so I cannot swap so easily

[graceful kettle]

going out there feels like going out during a nuclear attack

[azure oriole]

something that always confused me is even the smallest of demons are like brick walls if you dash into them

[graceful kettle]

yeah

[graceful kettle]

the more you know, the more you know you don't know anything

[austere bronze]

exactly!!

[azure oriole]

Socrates moment

you're telling me as strong as the slayer is the worst thing that can happen to a zombie when he dashes into it is thr zombie stumbles back a little bit

[graceful kettle]

well, if you go by his punches, he's actually quite wimpy

[azure oriole]

I try my best not to remind myself of Cody Miller (that fella who 'speedran' Halo CE... badly)
Ok maybe that's a bit too self-deprecting

if youve ever seen that clip where the kid goes onto the track and someone runs into him at lightning speed and just keeps going that's exactly what should happen to zombies and imps

[graceful kettle]

i beat tag1 on nightmare on my first time playing through it and i think i suck balls at the game

[azure oriole]

howd you make it through the trials in blood swamps

[graceful kettle]

its still my greatest achievement on DE so maybe i really am very bad at the game

[azure oriole]

yeah if I play poorly, I just tell myself 'at least I'm not at a GDQ event', that would be actually sad

[graceful kettle]

yeah

[graceful kettle]

trials?

[azure oriole]

I really do not wan tto grind out ultra nightmare

[young mango]

I hope to be in a sort of GDQ event someday

[austere bronze]

that's neat though

[graceful kettle]

i dont remember the trials sorry

im just replaying TAG1 right now

[azure oriole]

at the end of either side theres a big trial with a bunch of super heavy demons

[graceful kettle]

i'm in UAC

[azure oriole]

when you get to maligog's arena

[graceful kettle]

damn, i don't remember that at all

and blood swamps is my favorite level

something i say sometimes is like, if DE's base game is a masterpiece, I don't even know what to call TAG1 and specially blood swamps

[azure oriole]

DOOM Eternal: The Ancient Gods - Part One

[austere bronze]

honestly, I wonder if I'll ever reach a point where I start to feel like I'm patching up my bad plays, or if I'll forever feel like there's just more and more to learn

[young mango]

Well I’ve definitely learned a lot since I started playing

[graceful kettle]

i like how you just lurk and wait for the right moment to strike with a funny comment lol

[austere bronze]

i can slightly relate

[graceful kettle]

yeah since i first downloaded the game, learning definitely occurred

[austere bronze]

i have gotten a teeny tiny bit better since when i started on ITYTD

[young mango]

Funniest understatement ever

[storm eagle]

relatable

[azure oriole]

first time i ever played doom eternal i got stuck on exultia then found the way after 20 minutes then i got stuck on cultist base before you shoot the first switch by the preator suit point and i didnt know you had to shoot the switch so i just gave up and deleted the game

then i redownloaded it last summer and now im decent

[austere bronze]

I used tutorials to get through many parts in early 2023

then I quit

then I tried it again when downloading elden ring late 2023 and haven't stopped playing since

[azure oriole]

is there a lore reason why i sometimes cannot glory kill the doom hunter

skill issue tbh

Not uncommon for me to try and glory kill only to blood punch someone instead

https://youtu.be/PApne-ybUjE?si=__JEnpRibwXGbB_I

heres a clip

[young mango]

I’m not sure anybody knows what directly causes it

doom hunter is just a janky enemy sometimes

[azure oriole]

bro i died to a marauder one time and the game literally pulled up thewhole ass tutorial card when i respawned

thats just making fun of me at that point

this is tag1 mind you and they feel the need to put a marauder tutorial there

[pastel crypt]

Bro can someone help me with battle mode achievements I am NOT tryna play that 🙏

[young mango]

No it was a tacked on addition in one of the 6.66 revisions where the first time you die to a marauder in a save file you get a tutorial pop-up upon respawning, which can’t be disabled for some reason

These things are intended to be QoL features but are just a hinderance

Like having a pop-up every time you start a new save file

I do think it’s funny that the first 50 mods of the mod portal had involvement with ID and one of them is to remove said pop-up, it’s like huh? Just remove it atp

[azure oriole]

it just felt like i was being clowned on

i had forgot there was a marauder in the encounter so i just got killed in 2 seconds

"you forgot there was a marauder? mustve forgot how to kill it too!!!😹 "

[young mango]

It was just such an odd decision because the revisions were legit just bug fixes but they felt as if they were obligated to add yet another tutorial to the game that can’t be disabled

Now that I think about it, off memory, that is the literal last feature added to the game, if you don’t count mod portal

[azure oriole]

i just got annihilated by the eyes of maligog

i use PB+ballista combo to kill them but having to run from hell knights makes my aim worse

[subtle magnet]

i decided to give classic mode super gore nest a try, then it put down my self esteem 2 encounters in