#doom-eternal
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forgot about TAG for a second, mb
the art is so much better than 2016 imo
I do like the look of Eternal over 2016 in some aspects
but I do like 2016's atmosphere and Baron more
Eternal felt too colorful to me, if that made sense
Also wasn't a fan of the Makyrs or whatever. I want my Doom fighting demons
hell, I've even modded in the 2016 Baron model into Eternal
thank you whoever made that mod btw
There's not a single Doom that I dislike though
I don't even dislike 64 or 3 despite my bantering about it
the maykrs are one enemy in one levelš
first point is fair though, but you can make the game significantly more to your liking in video settings
ive only played 2016 before eternal
especially with the help of commands
it's just that my anxiety won't let me enjoy 3 and 64
omg i cant wait for the dark ages man
I completely understand you with 3 lol
It has a special place in me because it was my first Doom game
I was able to curve my issues with 64 a bit by modding it
but I sadly can't really do the same with 3
ive been depressed for so long lmao this is the first time in a long time ive been excited about something lol
That's bloody great!
I was playing a master level, and started thinking that I maybe could do it deathless... and right then I died lol
that's how I felt when Sigil 2 came along tbh
kicked me outta an episode, actually
Summoned
Ctrl Alt Del'd
wait
nevermind, that joke's stupid
it's not even fucking correct
How was the stream Plobby
I saw you streaming and I saw that it was under your channel, named Plobbus, and I wanted to think "Plobbus is Tammie" and that just got mashed in as "Plobbie"
i completely missed that he streamed
Well Iām drinking cuz holidays so the gameplay isnāt exactly phenomenal
But the stream was good yeah
I got an early sneak peek at footage from it that was a reused cutscene
Get owned nerds
damn
but do you have a physical Catacomb 3D copy?
No
Get owned :P
Owneed
Own need
Nerd
Iām still surprised with how fluid that part turned out I donāt even think people would know thereās a transition there unless they were to be told in advance
I watched and got confused why the hell the environment changed
I'd say the transitions were clean lol
@austere bronze Did you watch it
Iām moreso referring to the dark lord cutscene where I change the gamma of the cutscene to 1.2 to 0.9 to make the introduction of the new gameplay make more sense
no, i hate tammie, he's my mortal enemy
Iām your immortal enemy actually Iām going to plague you forever
yeah no i watched it
i have antibiotics
š?
idk, can't plagues be cured via antibiotics
Best counter to an immortal enemy is a comically sized jar
I was about to say "Uhm actually the plague is viral" but I looked it up before hand
I can't counter M1's counter
Yeah probably but that shits so crazy dude medical technology was ājust trust me broā for the longest time wtf were they on about with bloodletting
my education is immaculate
Tammie smash his balls with a cinder block, antibiotics won't help
We're going massively OOC for this channel aren't we
Probably
Let's blame M1
what is OOC
Nah, this channel is always this mental lol
we're more than in character
yeah, i take full responsibility, because i am a responsible man, unlike you, nerd
wait, actually
my dad could beat up your dad
you're probably using OOC differently than I did years back
No the most in-character we can get for this channel is to argue about something stupid and meaningless
my 12 Doom 1 copies could beat up your Dad
true
My dad can beat up M1
lmao
-# oh yeah, I gained a Doom 1 copy btw
i am a 6'7 man at 270lb
Fatass
it's muscles
Okay hereās a stupid and meaningless argument ummm I ultra nightmared tormented earth one billion times damage scaling to slayer but I didnāt record also my computer blew up and windows didnāt back it up and and
I actually saw someone pull this for a Doom 1 speedrun lmao
Where's the argument starter in this
funny thing is that the time wouldn't even be possible
no ai haste? peasant
I wouldnt know if the ai was hasted I was blindfolded
Alright well maybe we should stick to what Tammie said because we are treating this channel like a group chat
i was literally looking for idk929's tormented earth UN run 5 minutes ago, but couldn't even find his channel lol
yeah, actually
So true plobbie
i do not wish to be in general
instead of bloody Doom Maternity Ward
Group chat between 2 classic glazers and 2 DE glazers is a sitcom idea
speaking of UNing hard levels in a less sarcastic context I have been improving my skill after basically having ran speedrunning into the ground so now Iām playing normal stuff
Noted.
yo, my favorite youtuber is streaming: hmmmp!!
are we still doing the sarcasm gig
I've gotten significantly worse at DE lol
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
we should probably stop if we are
Probably because I've been playing speedy hedgehog meth games for the past 1 or 2 months instead of playing FPS games
not necessarily, i just use sarcasm sometimes
Nice (?)
you asked me for some good levels, that were preferably easier than unreclaimed earth, and then i see you playing tormented earthš
that is dope though
not even the balanced version either
Well cbt atlantica wasnāt on the mod portal so I just decided tormented but only one arena
you guys being good at Eternal sorta leaves me in awe tbh
not much of an Eternal fan, but still
I did play it some more for the compilation and got to the spirit totem part before I decided enough was enough for one day
You guys should play DOOM I on NM I wonder how far you'd get
lol, fair enough, but you did play the spirit encounter too, at least
have you played Saleem's graveyard ML?
No but I do have it installed
What would you say is the closest thing itās comparable to
i could probably beat the first 2 levels and no more, if I were to guess
imagine a relatively easy slaughter map
So like, cultist base slaughter map
I think I've done like 3-4 levels of E1 on NM Pistol Start
something like that, yeah, but it's shorter
if it aint pistol start, it's cheating
yeah well i think so
yeah
and the game was intended to be played without pistol start
Try it then
wait
I forgor'd a word
ma'am, I have already tryharded at Eternal today
how?
Whatās this running gag with AnomaamQ
you'd have to worry about health and ammo on the current map for the next map
I have no idea Ma'ammie
so it can make the current and next map harder than if you just pistol started
because exiting a level pistol starting at 2% health and no ammo is the same as exiting the level with 200% health and max ammo
while you might as well pistol start if you exit a level with the former not pistol starting
pistol starting can make it harder
but it can also make it easier
No idea why but this feels like hanging out with some friends while wasted, like half of what we say makes no sense
To Tammie and M1 you are probably talking gibberish right now
probably
can confirm
I still need to finish my Eternal UV run
First parts semi true for me
Urdak š¢
At first I thought you were calling us friends and I wanted to write something along the lines of the shitty TV trope where characters are like "omg we're friends!?!?!" but then I realized you meant you're wasted lol
Is this because you hold 2nd place instead of 1st
I have no clue what thatās referring to
Any% Unrestricted No Cheat Codes Urdak, Tammie. 2nd place. We all know.
Man that was like one of the first things I ever did Idek how you found that
I wanted to see if you hold any records so I looked over your speedrun.com page lol
Kind of sad you did a Dark Lord x20 run that seems like torture
They timed it RTA so I didnāt even get first place
real time action, load screens and main menu counted towards final time
to me that's total BS
Itās not though
I looked over your rejected runs and I was devastated to see why they were rejected lol
You didn't quit to the main menu Tammie!!! So your run is INVALIDATED fuck you
it gives people with high-specs a high advantage
it's literally pay to win speedrunning
It was a mistake on my part because I was fucking up with the timer
It theoretically could have been frame timed but doing that in a joke category with 20 splits isnāt worth the time and effort
World-famous DE speedrunner admits to cheating (HUGE DRAMA)
Autosplit is pretty straight forward given youāre running one of the campaigns, didnāt really know how to apply that to a single level at the time though, RTA is not the standard used, it was just used for that specific instance
oh
if it was the standard it'd be complete utter BS
Has M1 ever speedran
because even a perfect run could be outclassed by someone with a better performing rig
and to me that's complete horseshit
With frame dependent physics thatās kinda already a thing, but not to that serious of an extent
Runs are required to be limited to 250FPS to prevent things from getting too crazy
Damnit, if I had to speedrun with my god setup I'd need to cap FPS then, shucks!
(My PC once stuttered on a 2003 kids game)
Damn..
250FPS is a decent limit because on top of what Iād consider diminishing returns afterwards, about 100+ frames higher your yeethooks start breaking off prematurely from gathering too much speed
which makes them less efficient
Dj khaled suffering from success yada yada
also because framerate fucks with the way you interact with geometry, canāt imagine zip boosts would fare well either
I know Khaled from the fact that all his songs open up with some goofy bullshit like "DJ Khaled number one š„ š„ We da BEST"
Played some doom 1, did the first level on nightmare, tried the second a few times, now my bed is calling for me
Now let's get Tammie to do the same
Hold down A or D and only one of them while meathooking an enemy, then just fly away by swapping weapon, punching (not the best) or quickly looking away
But for a true yeethook you'll wanna activate some kind if timeslow too
so weapon wheel
agreed
Thereās always framerate capping but really if youāre at the point you gotta spend like only 15% of the run at an uncapped framerate for a negligible advantage then idk
Anything to squeeze out the best time
Can be the rune that slows down time (I'm demented and forgor the name of it)
Chrono Strike
chrono strike
Ha I was first
fair, fair
yeah for sure, just spitballing about why the framerate cap isnāt really that detrimental
Tammie can you do a speedrun while balancing a fidget spinner on your left pinky
Man, I have 3 levels I wanna UN in DE, but I don't have the patience for any of them
Or maybe 1 of them
Tammie can you beat Doom 1 and Doom Eternal on the same controller?
I think if there were a left pinky I would simply blood punch him
I love playing DE while balancing a fidget spinner on my... left pinky...
No Tammie don't do that, only me and M1 know the context and that would hurt a lot
Yeah, I'm not really into that type of stuff
It started with terry the shark
And we talking about him in dms
I remember now
And somehow that came up
I donāt even play with controllers so probably not
And you said something other than left pinky, which flabbergasted me
Was my wordplay there appreciated though
No you're my mortal enemy too now
And I explained that i thought you were gonna say something like left pinky
I have no clue what the context is
Dope
Do you want to know
Sure
@austere bronze Tammie has been enlightened
The age of enlightenment is upon us
fine, one m&k
I mean yeah i donāt see why I wouldnāt be able to
I read this as "Monic and Knuckles"
That reminds me
yeah, you could cheese it very easily due to Eternal's first room
I gotta try some more DE with my ps controller
you could legit just focus on Doom 1 for a good while and then play Eternal
Eternals the easy part and doom 1, without specification, I could just turn to ITYTD, or like even if I struggled I donāt understand why it being on the same keyboard would be an issue itās not like getting broken if I die or smthn am I thinking about this too literally?
both have to be played on UV
also, Doom 1 as in UDoom
so you have to play Episode 4
Brother don't make Tammie play E4M6 man what the heck
:)
Yeah I much prefer M1
Wait so what did the same keyboard thing gotta do with it
E4M1 on UV is painful
No
Elaborate?
Why did you say same keyboard like that's a challenge
... oh yeah
No I was on a level called Urdak I think is how you spell it
I said that before I realized it could just be cheesed
The level before
"Emmy boy"š š«
It's alright though, I forgive you, unlike Tammie
I have context and now I realize that my response was funny
See Tammie, you attract more flies with honey
Speaking of, two days ago a fly tried to crawl up my nostrils, how do you feel about that Coder
If there was a left pinky I would simply blood punch him
Goodbye Tammie jr
Dear god
There was never a sr
There could've been one
1 Tammie is enough to last me a lifetime
What a Wattpad thing to say
Oh it is
You know that nickname was made up as an insult too
I don't mind it, I find it funny
Certainly better than whoever Wattpad is at least
tell him
I just got to my first fight segment in "Final Sin" and I can already tell this final level is going to be horrendous
Final sin is awesome
Horrendous as in how difficult it is
It got some of the best arenas
Boss fucking sucks, though
True
That's the life of you at the bottom of the food chain
The second easiest difficulty should not be this difficult
I think it's good
I don't think you guys want to eat me
I meant in more of a philosophical manner
Ok wise guy
Pls refer to me as Sensei Wu
I never told anyone this but I used to be an elitist at life
What does that mean
As a kid I would feel sad because I was convinced other people didn't have a life as good as me, simply because I knew English and they didn't
I was definitely a bit overdramatic with it
Especially since it's the language of our lord and saviour andrew tate
Please never speak again
Perchance
@young mango Can you blood punch his left pinky for that
Dude, you gotta download his course
It's totes worth it, it genuinely slays so hard
[pan_smack_earrape.wav]
Yeah no I specifically remember tate telling me not to use .wav
Also, is it just me, or does Doom Slayer look weird without his mask?
Not just you
Doom Guy looks fine
Doom Slayer looks like Doom Guy but worse
-# I am aware they are the same person
Coder, are you tweaking
Ah good, lol
Perchance
Why couldn't they just use THIS face
Death
it went from brown to black in Eternal for some reason
Heās mad geeked
... he literally has his face shown 100% of the time in the original games, though?
What does that mean
Idk word I saw on the internet once
You and your American slang!!!
Personally, just keep the mask on. He looks cooler that way
Helmet
yeah but I want the funny face grinning at me on my HUD at all times!
Idk man I feel like his face is important to his character, he feels much more human that way
Does that one stack with the weapon wheel time slow (I would try it out myself, but Iām too lazy to get out of bed)
no
Doom slayer beats doom 2016 doomguy
they're literally the same person
for clarification, chrono overrides weapon wheel
u sure?
Yeah, I'm 100% sure
Are they the same ammount of time slow?
no, weapon wheel slows things to about 0.14 their normal speed and chrono about 0.3
i dont believe uā¦
He has improved in strength since 2016
the slayer even has a broken down 2016 suit in the fortress if doom iirc
looking at glory kill animations, barely
Thanks for the info
By lore, he had killed more demons since and has thus gained in strenght
Or Iāve got the lore wrong in memory
Source on this, please?
loremaster64
A memory I donāt often trust myself
alright
The Icon of Sin Boss fight is going to make me destroy my computer I swear
Yknow, playing CBT atlantica now that itās on mod portal and Iām dicking around a bit and tried to do the blue keycard skip, but they patched it, they extended the encounter trigger to match the keycards hitbox, which is a really cool thing I donāt think a lot of people would notice
Get a pillow to punch, it gives you the possibility to let the overflow of anger out without destroying something
i just beat it
First time?
First time beating the game felt great, same for the dlc, I expect beating the game on UN to be one of the best feelings in life
So much effort and improvement in skill, all for one definitive fight (and the achievement)
The difficulty of this boss battle is disgusting
It makes beating it a greater achievement
It aint that bad
Just use full auto and micro missiles
Know that games are supposed to be fun, so if you find it too difficult, you can change it (even while in a mission, but I have never tried so I donāt know)
Literally the two worst mods in the game
Oh yeah? Well guess what? This is literally my first time doing this boss battle okay
So don't go around and saying "Oh it's not that bad! It's easy!" Because this is my first time getting to this part
Not everyone's going to be the same skill level as you
You can lower the difficulty u know? š¬
Lmao no
I'm not going to lower the difficulty for one fight
Plus, if this is the second easiest difficulty, that I don't think the easiest is going to be that easy anyway
Then you should be mad at your own pride instead of the game
I am not being prideful
I'm just saying how hard this boss is
That's it
Or use sentinel armor š¬
Guys the Buffed Marauder got me in UN, what do you do when he just doesn't go for a melee? He was running into my face and shotgunning me non-stop, i panicked, got body blocked and died.
It hasn't given me the option to yet
You donāt see me complaining about the Ultra Nighmare difficulty, since I know what challenge Iām giving myself and I am the only one forcing myself to do it so Iām the only one to blame for anything that happens in my attempts
You're acting like I knew this boss battle was going to be over the top unbeatable
I'd already beaten the other half of the level wich sucks even worse.
I would say this but its already patched lmao
https://youtu.be/C06xECd0g04?si=bw2CPP_9CGg9c_ue
Let's call it reverse telefrag, courtesy of Engineer Gaming
https://youtu.be/-1q_v4dBZ7w: UAC Atlantica marauder version
I knew it was going to be hard yes, but I didn't know it was going to be THIS horrendously hard
That's pretty cheesy tho, even though you could argue the marauder is broken af and pretty much cheeses the player by not giving a chance to kill him in the traditional manner.
Have you tried shooting him with the bfg? You get quitte some ammo before and during the fight and one shot is enough for one body part (if I recall correctly)
Donāt try to shoot at his arms or hands tho, they move quitte often, making them hard to hit and thus a waste of bfg ammo
Yes I have tried that
The ballista (crossbow thingy) is also pretty strong against him in my experience
Unmodded shot is fast to shoot, making it easier to get shooting demons next to you
Are you at phase one or two? (sorry to get you down if youāre at phase one not knowing thereās a second phase)
Gives me the possibility to give directer tips for where to move and such
Iāve beaten him mostly in a more cowardly/safe playstyle and since your struggling, I think that would be the playstyle you could execute
Hello everyone š
I beat him but I'm not as excited as I normally would be because I had to cheat and use the sentinel armor
So in the game, there are 2 bosses that I still need to be legitimately. Khan Maykr and Icon of Sin
What does beat legitimately mean
Without using the sentinel armor
It's been a couple of years since I last beat him So I don't remember much
For your next playthrough, try to learn every weapon mod (truly give them all a fair chance, maybe theyāll come in usefull sometime) and try to improve your awareness of every enemy in the battle
First to know where you can run off to in case of emergency, later to not get surprised by demons (like getting arround a corner and standing face to face with demon)
And for high level playstyle itās to know where to find your next priority, but thatās not necessary to beat Nightmare (the highest difficulty not counting Ultra Nightmare since that doesnāt change gameplay, it only changes extra lives into max shields and takes away the possibility to respawn after dying)
lowering the difficulty was off the table but 80% damage reduction wasnāt?
if Iām right, that would make what you did 14% damage scaling, and ITYTD 40% damage scaling
HMP with sentinel armor feels better than changing to ITYTD, I get his reasoning, most players donāt know the percentages (I also donāt know the exact differences between difficulties)
okay that's fair, the percentages aren't exactly slapped beside the difficulties for everybody to see, i'd imagine testing which one does less damage or having that on hand isn't something your average player is going to do, but me being aware of this, I did find it kinda silly
and this presents me with a new line of logic, why does sentinel armor provide marginally more benefit than turning the difficulty down in the first place?
just got eternal. I'm in the cultist base rn.
what difficulty you playin on
aight
the game is still fun on im too young to die but higher difficulties are the reason people are addicted
not tryna tell you to get good im just sayin you should work on it
if you ever struggle let me know i'll help
you can only play online in battlemode there's no co-op as far as i know
it can be pvp
Eternals multiplayer is 1v2, one slayer versus 2 demons with abilities
Oh that sounds fun
Except that the multiplayer isnāt really bustling with players, so there can be some waiting time, if youāre playing with a friend you automatically become the demons together, the multiplayer isnāt cross platform btw, so that could be in the way of you and your friend playing together
If you want to play as the slayer you can go into matchmaking alone or with 3 players
yeah that all shpuldnt be a problem
guys when a marauder jump over a bottomless pit and i shoot him during his jump, he falls into the bottomless pit but instead of him dying i get the fall damage and get teleported like as if i were the one who fell instead of him
marauder wrong warp, don't really know why this happens under the hood but it's reproducible for the most part, has to do with his gibs/corpse falling into a death plane
I'd say the thing that sets apart high level players from the rest is how they move around in the arena
Smexy movement essentially
Hi guys, what do you think about the doom eternal dlcs? i recently finished them and i think that they are good, but not even close to the base game
first one was good but didnt add much, the second one added cool enemies and mechanics but it was boringly easy
especially after the pretty hard first dlc
I agree, except about the enemies, they sucked lol
they made the game a little bit more varied so it was good i guess
I like some of the new world building and lore stuff, TAG 1 is great imo TAG 2 was fine but left a lot to be desired
Andrew Hulshult and David Levy did a fantastic job on the soundtrack
I wish The Dark Lord wasnāt introduced in and regulated to a rushed DLC though
still think itās funny how they had to patch TAG 2 to make it harder and how they said TAG 2 was easier as a sort of reward for TAG 1
Cause fighting hordes of Imps is definitely really fun
yeah
Y a t'il des franƧais sur ce groupe ?
How so? By forcing out certain weapon mods?
ok maybe you re right
I doš
Does doomguy even need guns atl the level of power he has now? Or is it simply because its the most efficient way to kill demons?
He needs them to survive
Just started a campaign, this game is freaking awesome
i just lost aceint gods part two on ultranightmare at the last boss fight and the worst ting is i lost at 6 LEVEL!
Just you wait, it gets awesomer!!
I finished Ancient gods part 2 for the first time yesterday ;o
I wont spoil anything though but you gonna have a WILD ride haha!
You sound good at the game(very good)
True
He definitely needs guns. Lore wise while Doomguy is physically stronger than any normal human he wouldnāt be able to kill something like a Tyrant or Baron with his bare hands without weakening it first with his weapons
All that stuff about him using guns for fun or like āBerserk is him lore accurateā is just wrong
Heās more like a super soldier than a god. Spider-Man is way stronger physically to put things into perspective
thx but still i am traumitised
heh
i just want to get the skull face skin
well I finally beat horde mode on nightmare
me two took me 5 attemps
it was lik a month ago
but ngl the bounty lord slayer is pretty cool
it is pretty dope, horde mode gave me such an appreciation for the whole weapon wheel
@violet zealot @austere bronze @young mango You guys remember left pinky lore?
no
Bad memory
Yea, whadup?
What about a right pinky
That gave me some very weird pictures in my head
M1 was born a leftie
Ma'am, I'm right handed
Being left handed is a skill issue tbh
So much stuff gotta be harder
Is that why left handed people are more creative apparently
yes
is it just me or the first slayergate was a lot harder than the last slayergate nm
Probably not an absurd thing to say considering your arsenal is pretty much complete by taras
i don't think it's necessarily harder, just more volatile
more guns and more exp ig
first one was just straight raw
throwing dread knights at you when all you have is shotgun, AR, plasma gun and frag grenades is evil
not really
you can nuke one w chainsaw and the rest shouldn't catch up to you unless you don't dash at all for some reason
tru
dashing also stops rev rockets from homing onto you which makes them pretty much harmless the moment they're introduced
multiblast COMPLETELY nukes the gate but learning speedtech this early is probably harder than just beating it normally
dread knights aren't a problem even that early on, you just gotta use your creativity a bit
considering how crucial dashing is as a movement mechanic if somebody wasn't dashing frequently they would be struggling regardless
microwave beam, heat blast, blood punch, frag grenade and damage faltering are all ways you can stop them, then you just gotta get some more damage too
WHY DOES THE DARK LORD ONLY FUCKING ATTACK ME WHEN IM IN SENTINEL HAMMER ANIMATIONS
Practicing the level on nightmare rn, and killed him no hit, it's crazy how nervous for no reason i get in UN.
I don't like the stare-off for 3 minutes before he does anything, at least make him use his not vulnerable sword slashes.
Fr i wouldve preferred a icon of sin type fight not a juiced marauder
I wouldnāt even go as far as saying juiced, maybe in the aspect that he has a far larger health pool, but heās got a bigger hit box, so hitting the greenlight is easier, heās also far more predictable and his attacks are heavily choreographed, and due to the fact heās a stand-alone fight ( asides from summons ), thereās no enemy prioritization to be had, also the fact that the hammer exists, which is a given, itās not exactly like that same facet isnāt applicable to the marauder but the fight kinda hands it out to you via summons and zombies respawning and just standing there begging to be glory killed, and the fact I couldnāt even go as far to describe it as juiced up might be an even bigger testament to how relatively underwhelming the fight was
probably because you get in his face when he does
no i hammered the wolves outside of sword range and he fucking shield bashed me before i could do anything
the dark lord's weakness is g_damageScaleALlToAI 1000
I promise you if you record and watch your gameplay you're just using the hammer at a bad time in close range
W way to beat any enemy
no, but a W way to beat the dark lord ;)
Darklords weakness is tammie
truth
Nah the darklord's real weakness is making the community give the dlc bad reviews
because the bossfight is so disliked
lol
Wouldn't that be his strength
Dark Lord: Literally killing the franchise since whenever the fuck TAG 2 came out
Dark lords weakness is good RNG
Dark Lords weakness is me failing 200 times to get sentinel armor
I enjoyed it i prefer icon of sin fight by a large margin tho
I personally dislike every boss from every game in the franchise
Never played RoE
you are correct
I will subtract 3, 64, and RoE from that list
semi true
I feel more pressure fighting arenas with tons of super heavies heavies and other stuff than bossfights
like I can count on my hand how many good boss levels there are (not the bosses themselves)
- E4M8 from Ultimate Doom
- Final Sin from Eternal
Not even the finale of 2016?
I hope dark ages has good bosses
I don't remember much from it so I can't give it a fair review
2016 after playing eternal is like playing pong after elden ring
that was a good level tho
though I do think I mostly liked the level
so I'll just shove it in the list anyways
2016 after playing Eternal is like playing 2016 after Eternal, idk why everyone feels like it's made more basic lol
2016 after playing Eternal is like playing a more Doom-like Doom game
your saying eternal is less doom like than 2016
Oh 100%
Hii
how
Eternal strays from the rest of the franchise even more than 2016 does
?
Nahhh the 2016 bosses were peak
Damn let him get it off firstš
That double boss fight and the cyber demon? coolest boss fights in a shooter
basically every other game prior to 2016 focused on these main keypoints
- Primarily horizontal combat
- Heavy focus on resource management
- Combat puzzles (with the exception of Doom 3 to my knowledge)
2016 kills of the latter two
I'd argue DOOM 3's final battle might be a bit of a combat puzzle
Eternal then kills the horizontal combat
also before you say "Oh 2016 and Eternal focus heavily on resource management"
no, they absolutely do not
you get literally everything (and even in Eternal, the things that give you everything) in unlimited amounts
2016 has resource management
barely
at least with 2016 the chainsaw doesn't automatically refill
If you have rich get richer and you're a decent player sure it's thrown out
Eternals combat is the Meat of the game
Eternals combat loop is based on resource management
I'd argue theres more combat puzzle than 2016
Eternal literally gives you everything in unlimted amounts
the older games did not at all
once you ran out, you ran out for good
it is not based on resource management, it's primarily movement and decision making
you want to run around finding ammo across than map then be able to chainsaw a fodder and get your resources back]
Eternal's resouces are very limited its just you have cooldowns to regenerate those resources
... that completely breaks the resource management, though?
you still get unlimited resources with the chainsaw minus health and armor
wait, I read what you said wrong
I misinterpreted resource mamangement but still
you would rather
Run around the level looking for ammo, health and armor
then
Get your ammo from chainsaw, Health from glory kills and armor from flame belch?
You get half of a very limited ammo pool. Doom eternal frankly has much more resource management than classic doom, you just get to regen those resources but you run out constantly. In classic doom all your resources are spooled out for you on the map
The skill in classic is making sure the total amount of resources on the map is enough to win
Yeah, because it means I actually have to think about my resource consumption
Genuinely the dumbest thing ive heard today icl
to me that's what made the older games great besides enemy to level interaction
did I ever say they weren't?
Im saying you could still get ammo and health back from them
If you looked at my previous point I said 2016 didn't kill every keypoint I mentioned like Eternal does
they just improved upon and made it the main way to get resources in eternal
I fucking love Eternal, but it is very far away from the other games in terms of gameplay
also eternal has way less ammo count than 2016
I legit never have resource issues in 2016 or Eternal, minus chainsaw pips in 2016 at times
honestly, the full auto just completely trivializes resource management in DE
this meant to be sarcastic?
yes
Honestly, classic DOOM is best played in GZDoom with crouching and freelook
If you actually have to ask
I don't detect sarcasm, Lighting
I genuinely struggle with that
unless I know the person's tastes well enough (like in Anome's case) I literally wouldn't be able to tell
Well its a common community meme and m1 talks here pretty frequently and is at least decently knowledgable at the game
I dont think i've seen that opinion ever be expressed seriously
... we don't talk about that one friend I had, then
well, guy was also quite bad at the game, too
but yeah, I see what you mean
Was this guy in the server
marauder is the best enemy in eternal
never, actually
Well it's not Mr. Doggo then
why do you think that
I believe he's trolling.
I'm very sorry to hear that.
halo
idk he just adds to the pressure of an arena If hes combined with heavies and on his own hes prtty easy
the marauder is good at basically making you move
to me he isn't really a threat, but a half-decent way of pushing you into threats
i don't see why you wouldn't move without him present though
same
There's a lot of enemies that are very good at making you move, any spirit'd melee demon will probably make you move more
The marauder is just a centralizing figure in the fight that causes it to revolve around him and change your strategy so it's focused on him (Assuming it's a very difficult encounter)
honestly, yeah
I do agree with you there
though I did wish the spirits (and also Stone Imps) didn't force you into using a specific weapon for them
I was never fond of the game forcing you into using specific weapons due to an enemy
that's why CBT levels are so good! they usually kill the spirits for you
They kill your spirit too
it builds character
preferred in the older games where they forced you with resource availability
resilience, even?
yes, you should go play some CBT shit
Hah! NO
and I need to try offwine's taras nabad ML
idk why I haven't even played that thing halfway through
Offwine's a favorite level modder of mine, would recommend his stuff to anyone
You dont play cbt mods?
Off wines levels are good but I donāt like doing the math in SGN
Ah okay that explains why you dont feel like resource management is that intensive in eternal
In the base game I would agree with you, but the chainsaw usage is actually extremely annoying in mods
I was also mainly referring to base game anyways
(Thanks to any modder putting drones in their cbt fights)
I don't take mods much into consideration with my arguments
I do prefer putting base game to base game
That's not bad reasoning honestly
i was in a vc with a guy playing some cbt stuff on itytd a few days ago, you should do the same, trust
because to me mods will break the comparison
I haven't played the base campaign in years
especially with Doom 2 in my opinion
I canāt imagine dealing with any greenlight enemy was fun in that scenario
because they could change the game wildly
like resource management may be a bigger deal with custom levels in Eternal
there were none, fortunately
but I myself don't have personal experience with such and in turn would just compare the base games of what I'm arguing
CBT level with no greenlight enemies?
except one marauder by his own, so that doesn't matter
and would make sense for people who also don't really play with mods in either game
it takes a bit before anything like that shows up in Tormented Earth
except that one blood maykr
oh wait no
there's a marauder in the first real arena
thatās fair I donāt exactly have the spawns of these levels memorized, but thatās a cool piece of trivia
and 2 before that, but tokens aren't an issue then
I just beat Taras nabad master level in nightmare, my heart is beating so fast
Congrats man
Thanks
yoo, nice
W
now do it again
Have you tried the TN ML?
nah
Sad
I remember trying desperately to pass the first arena lol, it felt like that was peak difficulty at the time
Man Iāve put like 900 hours into DE this year
I put probably a little bit over 800
Holy hell
In 2023 I played for 25 hours+2 or 3 months of pretty consistent playing
And now I have 930 hours in the game, but the real number is probably a bit higher since I played offline while on the mod preview to avoid having to wait an eternity upon death
I still do that for mod portal why does something that bars you from using internet features need to spend time connecting
Yeah idk, it's just annoying
It somehow managing to not work as if it were offline mode is the most mind boggling thing that I imagine wouldnāt have been hard to implement and would still be quite easy to add in for a potential update
If I could get my skill level to just be consisten I'd be very happy lol
I've felt for like the past 200 hours that I haven't really improved, but I did a playthrough of the world spear slaughter ML with very few deaths and some restrictions, which tells me that I've definitely improved, but then I played CBT atlantica today and died pretty early on
Hey any tips for the battle mode milestones for steam like gun expert and bloodbath
How early is early
Twice in the first arena with orange barriersš
And then once in the double possessed doom hunter arena, right after the meathook platforming with turrets in the air
At that point I just hopped off
Double possessed doom hunter? Have I not done that part yet? I did the initial section and decided to get off afterwards
Oh yeah, then you haven't reached that part
It's the first part of the arena where you get the red keycard and then do the same arena again
How far do you usually manage to get
No clue
But my result was significantly better when playing the world spear slaughter ML
My skill level is just inconsistent, which bugs me
Are they comparable in difficulty? I havenāt played that one yet
I would say that the world spear slaughter ML is generally a bit harder
Has it been ported yet?
But not by a lot, they are roughly the same
I'm like 95% sure it hasn't, not sure it ever will
damn so much stuff locked behind legacy
Unholy Urdak...
Itās a shame because Iāve really settled down with this weapon pack I have, which I am pretty sure isnāt on legacy
Yeah there aren't really a ton of skins here
At least it doesn't feel like it since many are doodoo
Is it a bug ļ¼that the doomSlayer model resolution is too low for the 32:9 resolution of the main game interface ?
work on dodging
un is all about surviving
Same, i'll be a monster for hours then fumble really stupidly for no reason.
I got no clue why but yāall know the fight zone near the slayer gate in the Arc Complex? that place keeps buggin out and not letting me 100 percent for some reason
I reset the mission plenty times and no luck
I don't think I've got a huge issue with that, it's more that my skill level varies from session to session
I'm never playing the world spear master level ever again
i for one love violence
Is there a Turkish patch for the game on Steam?
I once tried to connect it by downloading it, but it kept closing and the files were missing.
just replace demons with demƶnler and youll be good my guy
Guys in YouTube gaming recap for 2024 YouTube said I'm in the top 0.1% of @lyric pike fans because i watched 44x as much as the average viewer hahaš
Wait where can you find that
Yes, go into video settings and then performance metrics
Thanks
Use "low" to only show FPS
When you open YouTube in your phone, click on the compass symbol then click on the gaming section, there you should find the gaming recap
Oh yeah, thanks
Wow, I'm surprised that neither Murican, Lightningbreak or Zazman made my top 5
anyone knows why I regularly get fps drops to 15 for around 4 secs and the way to solve it?
Good evening, the following situation happened: I live in Russia, and in our country since September 21, access to the Doom servers has been lost, multiplayer is not working, someone says that the problem is not only in Russia, so now I am looking for information, for whom the Doom servers are still not working?
Cultist base is so damn annoying
especially cause im on hurt me plently and has never played eternal š
damn you crazy
bro i started a campaign on 'hurt me plenty' and i have never played this game
i need a gamemode under " i'm too young to die"
The introduction of the Whiplash gives you whiplash
Sheās an actual bitch to deal with
Once you get the rocket launcher sheās easy lock on rocket bait, though
Makes you wish they left the whole double jump waveblast thing in
Makes you wish for a nuclear winter
cultist base is in the arctic so itās not far off
That was part of the joke lol
damn thanks to me being very bad at multiplayer I stuck at trying to get the gun expert achievement
Didnāt catch that then, damn
also for people that didn't catch it somehow; ||the other half of the joke is a direct reference to New Vegas||
got a pc for my birthday and just bought doom eternal ,playing it for the first time now
nice
boys completed the campain at nm
took me 45 hrs
it hits dif when i kill sin icon in santa skin
well done!
haha nice, the master levels are great
I'd suggest to start with arc complex since that's by far the easiest one
excluding cultist base, which you get by either buying deluxe edition or the rip and tear pack
What is your favorite boss in DOOM Eternal? For me personally, it's got to be The Gladiator. The fight is fun, the music slaps, the mechanics are cool, the design of The Gladiator's cool
I love the fight
definitely samur
I haven't come across that yet cuz I haven't done the DLC yet
Honestly, yeah
You agree?
ah, you should definitely play it
from the main campaign, I agree though
Wow
the khan had such potential though...
Was not expecting people to agree with me lol
the khan maykr bossfight from Unholy Urdakā¤ļø
I literally blinked and she was dead
i gotta replay the khan maykr bossfight from unholy urdak, it slaps so hard
Funny enough, I think my favorite level is probably Mars Core. Music slapped, level was fast and engaging, had a lot of fights that weren't too hard but not too easy, was fun to blow a hole in Mars lol
for me it was easily SGN
That one's pretty good too
probably final sin here
I don't know why I think I like Mars Core better though
The first time I played the boss fight, it was disgustingly difficult lol. I haven't tried it yet but I am definitely going to try and beat it without sentinel armor to see if I can beat it legit
If I activate a cheat code, will it not let me get any of the secrets?
Because I've wanted to activate the QuakeCon mod to see how it is LOL
actually, you can fully progress with cheats enabled (including achivements iirc)
Wait really?
with the exception of Slayer Gates
I don't want to activate any other achievements, I just want to activate the crowd one lol
Basically for the funny
achievements as in trophies
yeah
Cool. I wanted to activate it for the funny
just an fyi you can only use cheats in levels you've already beaten
I've beaten all the levels
alright
Lol
was just telling you anyways
One thing I do want to go back and do is try and beat Khan Maykr and Icon of Sin without sentinel armor
Any tips to try and beat them?
When I get to them that is
honestly, I can't really give tips for that
One thing that someone told me that worked a little bit is the Ballista works pretty well with him
Same with BFG 9K
One thing that was messing me up a lot was the other enemies that are there as well
Hey Coder in what game did the BFG 10K first appear
Because I can't really focus on Icon of Sin and the other enemies at the same time
one of the quake games
I can't remember which Quake game, though
Damn you're good
What does BFG even stand for anyway?
People will tell you "Big Fuckin' Gun" but that's not really right
OMG I WAS SAYING THAT TO MYSELF AS A JOKE š¤£š¤£š¤£
Bio-Force Gun is the actual name, Big Fuckin' Gun is just what everyone calls it, including the manuals, as a nickname
It's funny that other people say it too
essentially just keep moving around like normally and spam enemies with the crucible (if you're boring lol), while shooting the icon as much as possible
Well yeah it's an official nickname
I'd need to check my manuals tbh
I mean it fits so hey š¤£
Here we are
I mean doom eternal references that in a mars core challenge so that probably didnāt contribute to dissuading people from referring to it as such
It is an official name
No I mean the big fucking gun part
I am aware, that is what I am referring to
Like the only game to not call it that is DOOM 3 which is also where the Bio-Force Gun name was established
BFG = Big Fuckin' Gun
So theyāre interchangeable but as for canonical usage itās referred to as bio force
It fits which makes it funny
from what Iām hearing
What gunskin do you get for fully upgrading the Ballista?
Canonically it IS the Big Fuckin' Gun too, at least in the 2005 movie, and no doubt that it's called that by some people in the games, moreso that officially it's Bio-Force Gun but as a nickname it's Big Fuckin' Gun, so yeah they are interchangeable
Well when I say it is I mean that the nickname for it exists in-universe
Was that too confusing
have you tried Unholy Urdak at all?
No, and currently, Iām not trying anything, Iām cleaning the dust inside of my computer because it keeps overheating
oh okay
I went back to a Slayer gate after I had already collected the key, didn't do the Slayer gate, and completed the level. I can't do it now
The key is not there and it won't let me in
Are you using any cheat codes?
cheats disable slayer keys
Yeah, but I honestly wonder why that is
does keyboard and mouse work on xbox?
Nope
dang it
Should I try ultra nightmare? Beat the game and both dlcs on ultra violence and went back and collected all the collectibles and stuff so I donāt have much to do
suggest you try nightmare first, just to get used to it n stuff
yeah, play the game on Nightmare a bunch first
Okay thanks guys
sall good
doom hunter is the only one i like
For me, the first Doom Hunter that you meet, although they do become a common enemy later in the game, it really puts you up for a test if you are actually ready to continue playing the game if you can beat the first Doom Hunter, and then the next 2 in the 2nd arena
I'm pretty sure the first 3 are classified as bosses, no?
Yes, bosses turned common enemy is a common DOOM trope
Hi!! im looking for some guays that can play doom 2016 MP im order to get the online trophies on PS
My id is: SouL_KinecK
If u can help me pleasee
Why not ask in the 2016 channel
Can someone help me get the online trophies ?
Buy the Rip and Tear pack
marauder because if you know how to kill him fast it is funny to just obliterate him after so much buildup that makes spmeone think he'll be really difficult
should I buy DOOM Eternal Year One Pass or DOOM Eternal Standard Edition
Year One Pass gives you ONLY the DLC campaigns, buy Standard for the base game
ohh ok, thanks
ye, but I don't have enough money for it
tuff
that's why I asked about year one pass and standart
i survived without the dlc for 4 months so its no big deal not to have it
deluxe edition is usually 70 bucks but i got it on sale for 20
stole that from id softwareš
YO how do you kill the dark lord its soo hard..
The sale is cheaper if you have the base game, otherwise you would pay 50 for the dlc
ok so when he is about to attack and his eyes flash green shoot him with the ballista then use the sentinel hammer then use the turret mod on the chaingun to get hella damage
if he is about to attack and his eyes dont flash green don't shoot and just dash away
if you need sentinel hammer energy use 2 regular heavy cannon shots to stagger the zombies and fill up the hammer meter
or just kill the dogs that he spawns sometimes
when you see that he's about to dash at you with his shield wait about half a second then dash to the left or right whichever one has more space
the dark lord really is just a bigger marauder
does take some practice to get it all down but usually you get that practice within the fight
because its so long
Can anyone help with doom eternal online trophies?
Steam achievement manager
I found rocket launcher lock on burst to be better
Some people actually want to earn the achivements
Im on ps5...
Nvm
or well, that
For old games w dead pvp u genuinely just cant tho
Eternal isn't an old game lmao
For pve achievements obv dont use manager
it's only 4 years old
Pvp is dead tho
that is somewhat true, however
Not modded PvPš
depends on the platform, however
Ig
sadly how it is with Doom 1/2 minus the KEX port
Slayer vs Slayer is a very active gamemode
U cant get matchmaking tho in modded pvp right?
And u probably cant get achievements with it idk
Ive never loaded into the pvp
What
I was just saying for non-KEX port deathmatching in those games, it's all Brutal Doom or some shit like that
not exactly important to this convo so ignore it
Oh
I gotta try slayer vs slayer someday
I'll never try it tbh
Just gotta practice my single dashing a bit
Eternal's movement and combat wouldn't sit well with me in a PvP environment
I suck at movement shooters when it comes to their PvP element
because I suck at their movement
We can both suck then
you are 20x my skill level, M1
I'm not at all used to the movement that's required in slayer vs slayer
if you ever see my gameplay you'd cringe
It'd still be fun
no, it wouldn't
I'll teach you ballista boosting n' stuff
I would shit and cry more than likely
the only Doom game where I'll willingly play it's PvP mode are the original games
nuh uh
you know I have 2.5 million metric tons of Uranium on my doorstep
Oh you also use Hello Fresh?
Then who gave you breakfast?
Oh
okay, off topic but my rubber duck with a middle finger fucking squeaks
I missed a letter
Does your rubber duck give you the middle finger? LOL
okay what the fuck, I usually don't miss these many letters when typing
yeah
Is any of u 2 on ps5?
I am but I don't play Battlemode
HELP ME GRIND PLEAAAAASEEE
I have absolutely zero experience with the mode, nor the willingness to play it, sorry
I can be on the lookout for someone that actually does, though
WHO CONTACT ME I REALLY NEED TO GET THOSE TROPHIES
It doesn't take that long too I especially need one that is 200kills and killing demonds with all weapons
Man just play the game
Finding someone who can help me will save me so much time that would otherwise be wasted for that shit mode
No pain no gain
Sooooo, who does?
i played a bit
not my thing, i enjoy ripping & tearing every single demon on my own, no matter how big the demon is
But the mode is literally about killing demons on your own
well.. i thought more of like killing demons on your own without other players controlling certain demons, cause i hate that
Beats me
Ohhh you said that u would be on the lookout, sorry mb, but yeah be on the look out
We need a pvp like doom slayers going against each other sum like that I know itās off topic but yeah.
there's a mod for that, actually
Wait frfr
Yeah
Do Dey have one for p5 or just for pc
I can give you a link to the modded multiplayer server, if you want to
It includes battlemode 3.0, invasion mode, co-op and slayer vs slayer
Mods are not on console
Ah, it's just for pc
Ah okay
Hi

