doom-eternal

[cunning spade]

i think that my timing its just wrong

[austere bronze]

Maybe

[jolly kernel]

I asked this before, but is it just me or is the frag grenade's explosion time random?

like I swear it seems like it sometimes explodes earlier than I remember

[strange gale]

not random, explosion timer starts when the grenade collides with anything iirc

[high condor]

I hate King Novik I hate King Novik I hate King Novik

Might just mute my audio whenever I have to restart this UN run

I can still hear him in my head.

[hearty condor]

hot take but I love hearing his voice before starting again, it gets me psyched

[high condor]

Just gotta keep reminding myself that the first three levels are where everyone struggles the most
Helps keep me sane

[fringe torrent]

Okay William Joseph Blazkowicz

[hearty condor]

hehe you got it

[hearty condor]

mhm good luck ^^

[fringe torrent]

Another Wolfenstein fan?? Based as hell

[fathom peak]

Someone know how to get a randomizer mod and how to custom it?

[storm eagle]

@jovial coral

[lament bluff]

Hey, did you guys know that the longer the Icon of Sin stays on Earth, the stronger he will become?! I sure didn’t!

[azure oriole]

Anyone know if the bfg9000 is usable in eternal?

[violet zealot]

It is

[azure oriole]

Alright

[vernal jay]

I finished the main campaign now

Thoughts on the DLC before I start it?

[fringe torrent]

Good but difficulty wobbles around back and forth

[thin salmon]

Except for tag 1, it is on full send the whole time

[fringe torrent]

Eh, not really

I play TAG 1 on HMP though (for now, wanna replay on UV) so maybe you are right

[thin salmon]

Yes, Nightmare kicked my ass

[austere bronze]

Tag1 can be perceived as difficult and has some long encounters, but I like it
Tag2 is tag2

[young mango]

I mean, for what It’s trying to be, UAC atlantica is very similar in difficulty to final sin

with the exception that it’s a tad longer

[austere bronze]

How hard is the holt?

It's been so long since I played it

[young mango]

Samur is what gives people a lot of trouble, but the level itself actually feels kinda empty most of the times, there’s that one encounter with the possessed tyrant, but making him possessed doesn’t really mean much in terms of his offensive capabilities, just a lot of health

[vernal jay]

I played the main campaign in ultra violence, is it that harder?

[austere bronze]

I would consider the main campaign harder

1. It's longer
2. In a good bit of it you lack many of your tools

[austere bronze]

Oh alright

I kinda thought so since I didn't remember any encounter, but people are always saying it's quite hard

[vernal jay]

Kinda
You unlock everything when you're at 50% on the campaign

Unlike doom 2016 where you use the BFG when you're at 90% lol

[young mango]

Mars core and it’s 30 second long elevator ride that basically just exists for no reason

Doom eternal loves long elevators

[fiery dagger]

The uac atlantica track so good

A few of the tag tracks cooked

Uac atlantica
Blood swamps
World spear

Cooked hard

[steady ember]

It’s a tax

The fun tax

Doom 2016 has those cutscene rooms in a few levels where you just stand around while Samuel talks to you

[violet zealot]

and Doom 1 (technically UDoom) has fucking E4M6

[steady ember]

?

[violet zealot]

I'm saying that level is far from fun

[steady ember]

What?

That level is an all timer lol

[violet zealot]

whatever

just gonna make myself look like a dumbass if I even try to defend myself

g'day

[steady ember]

Okie dokie

[atomic linden]

Only hard part of mars core is the dual baron part ngl

Even the final arena is easy compared to that

[steady ember]

The master level is pretty tough, at least for me

[atomic linden]

Oh yeah the master level is nuts

[finite otter]

will we get a dark ages suit for eternal

[steady ember]

Someone’ll prolly mod it in

[atomic linden]

Anyone got the feet ballista working consistently for marauders

[young mango]

Yes

[neat zinc]

whats the best eternal weapon IN YOUR OPINION

[azure oriole]

BFG

[austere bronze]

Definitely the ballista

It isn't even close tbh

Second is the super shotgun

[storm eagle]

2. SSG 3) Heavy Cannon 4) Rocket

oh whoops I need to update

[austere bronze]

Super shotgun: mesthook for great mobilty, base fire deals great damage in close range
Ballista: great for mobility, base fire deals decent damage at every range and one of its mods is incredibly good

[tired peak]

Ok this might sound stupid but am not the most skilled player yet I still want to so the ultra nightmare milstone for all the mode am on ps4 and we'll ngl my control is kinda bad so any tips or tricks yo help?

Like I said might sound stupid ik I probably just need skill

And I don't think I can plug my external key and mouse on my ps4 to play doom so

I managed to do the nightmare campaign and am trying the ancient god part 1 rn on nightmare itself kinda of a pain I don't think I'll even be able to I just die and die and make a bit of progress so ultra is insane I can't even die I have to restart everything

[austere bronze]

Not exactly sure what this video goes over, but it's from one of the better controller players
https://youtu.be/2mfjQqe6J-E?si=He2fN0Zf62Q4OGsh

[tired peak]

Ok thx that could help

[novel raptor]

finished ancient gods 2

[fiery dagger]

the only hard level in tag 2 is world spear if u are playing un and you beat world spear you have already won

[atomic linden]

Where do you hit it for consistent faltering

I keep hitting too far since if too close he will bring out the shield

I can’t get it unless he is coming right out of a stagger

[rancid nova]

Just had my best UN run shafted in Super Gore Nest cuz a Revenant rocketed me point blank thanks to some random door that decided to close despite me being next to it the whole time.

[atomic linden]

I have seen folks on YouTube being able to falter him mid dash using feet ballista and wondering if that has been patched out or I’m just trash

[young mango]

It’s just the ballista splash damage faltering him, he needs to sustain some damage before this can work, maybe that could be a factor hindering you?

[atomic linden]

Ah I see, do you know how much damage he needs beforehand

Regardless this makes sense since you can start using feet balista once you have failed a 1 cycle attempt likely

[tame topaz]

Marauder feet.

[azure oriole]

Awesome great input

[atomic linden]

Anyone know if the damage threshold is just faltering him once or more?

[real plaza]

I received tips from a DE professional, I now know that using the meathook to fling yourself in the air is crucial, as being in the air confuses the enemies' AI. You see the AI was designed to fight the player while on the ground, but being in the air takes away the 'I' in AI. To summarize, being airborne makes you a harder target. (USE AIR CONTROL RUNE!)

[real plaza]

Good idea searching that up.

I'm in tears there's only one result

[storm eagle]

Pretty sure the AI can attack you in the air just as effectively.

[violet zealot]

I think I've actually read something from Tammie or M1 that their AI kinda just borks if you air camp

[storm eagle]

Yeah what do I know

[young mango]

Been attempting to hundo UN TAG2 to switch things up and god I forgot how annoying the dreadknight was pre 6.0

Full stack to like 5 hp in 2 seconds

[tame topaz]

Anytime.

[tall stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-spiderman-meme-miles-morales-gif-6254393350946967855

[azure oriole]

so cool man

[merry stratus]

I know that guy

John Roblox

Gyat

[sage wasp]

Will the community levels come to console?

[storm eagle]

Unfortunately not as of yet.

[sage wasp]

I hope it happens like with doom 1 and 2

[storm eagle]

That would be awesome. I'm a pc player but I really feel for console slayers. You should have the same access to things.

I started Eternal on my PS4 and it was so bad lol.

[austere bronze]

What do you do to stay in the air?

[hidden comet]

To get the most out of your meat hook, meat hook any demon and swing either left, right or just go straight towards them and press your jump button about a third of the way towards the demon your locked on too

My best advice for practice is too try and practice on fodder in open spaces

[slow sigil]

To get the actual most of your meathook, don't jump at all. You'll keep your horizontal momentum that way

[hidden comet]

That’s true

I meant if your going straight towards a demon press jump button for air time

If you REALLY wanna fly away at Mach 3 meat hook a demon and swing either left or right while holding your weapon wheel, while in the slow motion you build momentum like crazy because of the way the frames per second work.

[young mango]

Yeah the games real frame dependent, my favorite instance of the yeethook is probably in the holt

[austere bronze]

that's never needed in battle

I play on 120-144 FPS and can easily gain too much speed

[rancid nova]

The worst part of Ultra Nightmare is everything pre-SuperShotgun

Because it's SOOOO SLOOOOW

[spring panther]

cultist base

hardest level in ultra nightmare

because no super shotgun until the second half

[autumn crater]

I have rune glory kill speed and air control equipped what should my last one be

[rancid nova]

Difficulty?

[autumn crater]

I’m gonna change it to harder but hurt me plenty

[rancid nova]

Chrono-Strike, insanely good for crazy Meathook stuff and gives loads of time to Precision Bolt the weak points on Revenants and Mancubi.

[autumn crater]

I didn’t die on the first boss so I figured it was too easy

[autumn crater]

Ok ty

[austere bronze]

Equipment fiend, blood fueled and dazed and confused are viable third choices

I'd say equipment fiend

[autumn crater]

What does that do again

Just can’t remember

[austere bronze]

It reduces the cooldown when you kill a demon on fire, same for all equipment

[autumn crater]

Is it significant

[austere bronze]

So it works with flame belch (demons on fire via meathooks reduces the CD too), frag+ice grenadea

[autumn crater]

I’m working on meathook mastery I’m like half way

[austere bronze]

-0.5 seconds CD for every demon on fie killed
Relistically this will make the total CD for flame belch maybe 15-20% faster

I don't exactly remember how it is with ice and frag grenades

[rancid nova]

You can get mastery before leaving Cultist Base btw

[autumn crater]

Just got it now

Dude I’m stuck in the 2nd elevator

I can’t move

I clicked into a wall lol

Thankfully my last check point wasn’t far

[real plaza]

Ballista + Double jump.

Increases air time for me.

[celest mauve]

mate I am a ps5 player and I have dyspraxia and now I am playing on ultra violence, if I can do it, you sure as heck can

due to dyspraxia I actually have to farm extra lives, but much good they are on ultra violence if I keep dying

what good is extra lives if you don't have the skill to keep them?

[celest mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-man-doom-doom-eternal-doom-slayer-gif-26144016

H-HOW?!

[autumn crater]

Clipped

Autocorrect

[austere bronze]

I'd suggest dashing too

[autumn crater]

I moved to the side when activating an elevator and it pushed me outside the elevator and the elevator kept going up

[austere bronze]

They aren't really meant to be kept, they're just there to give you an extra chance when you mess up

[real plaza]

And if you shoot at the enemy while you are airborne, it's a double win.

[real plaza]

Yeah that never failed me.

[austere bronze]

You don't really need to use the ballista to increase air time, but if the opportunity strikes it's nice

[autumn crater]

I’ve just gotten every rune and so far I find the slow fall rune is good

[austere bronze]

Chrono strike?

[real plaza]

Yeah looking back on our argument I was pretty inexperienced.

[austere bronze]

Who are you talking to and what are you referencing?

[real plaza]

You

And the marauder argument

That transformed into important praetor suit upgrades

[autumn crater]

Yes

[real plaza]

Yeah I'm still inexperienced.

But I learned a lot from the argument.

[austere bronze]

I don't remember it, but I'm glad you've given it some thought

[austere bronze]

I don't think there's much value in that rune

Maybe if you absolutely need a breather

[celest mauve]

I mess up, ALOT, look up what dyspraxia is

[austere bronze]

Then extra lives can offer a great fallback

[celest mauve]

you know what it is now?

[austere bronze]

I assumed what it was before, and my assumption was in line with what I read

[celest mauve]

even tying shoelaces is a challenge

[austere bronze]

If you're able to horde the extra lives, there's no point of having them

[celest mauve]

I know I'll need them on Nekravol, Urdak and final sin

I can't get extra lives on extra life mode and ultra nightmare right?

[fiery dagger]

Extra life mode you can. Ultra nm no you cant

[celest mauve]

guessed as much

[fiery dagger]

Is there an ultranightmare mode on horde mode?

[austere bronze]

No

[celest mauve]

nightmare is highest

[austere bronze]

All you can do is not lose your extra lives

[fiery dagger]

Thats a shame

[celest mauve]

really?

[autumn crater]

Is horde any good?

[celest mauve]

want it to be harder?

[autumn crater]

Haven’t played it

[fiery dagger]

Yes

[celest mauve]

play with one hand

there ya go

[fiery dagger]

It wouldve been a fun challenge

[celest mauve]

problem solved

[fiery dagger]

?

[austere bronze]

Not really

[autumn crater]

Self imposed challenge Anubis is saying

[austere bronze]

It may be fun once or maybe twice

But it gets boring quick

[autumn crater]

Sounds right

[fiery dagger]

Horde mode the actual combat is fine ig it starts moderatly hard pretty quick tho the side things like the parkour gets boring

[celest mauve]

I play ALOT of assassin's creed and the parkour is BOOOOOOORIIING in Horde mode

[austere bronze]

Yup, fortunately it's over in about 10 seconds

[autumn crater]

I’ve been getting used to quick switching between ssg and pb

[celest mauve]

for pc maybe

movement is more clunky on controller

[austere bronze]

Yes, too many things on the side and the beginning is stale

[autumn crater]

Park or in assassins creed or horde mode

[celest mauve]

?

[austere bronze]

Imagine getting like the plasma rifle and chaingun as your first 2 weapons
What a horrible fate...

[celest mauve]

I love AC Parkour, Doom parkour is subpar

[fiery dagger]

Controller felt easier in some aspects than pc

[celest mauve]

Doom is an FPS not a simulator

[autumn crater]

Ok ty I might play assassins creed next

[celest mauve]

go on AC 2

[austere bronze]

I don't see how controller is easier in any way, it's probably because you're more used to it

[celest mauve]

best one in the series

[autumn crater]

It is easier but pc has a higher skill ceiling and more keybinds

[autumn crater]

It’s less complex

[austere bronze]

You can make PC just as non-complex

[autumn crater]

True

[celest mauve]

uh folks....

I think I have enough lives LOL

[autumn crater]

But most people come from console (like me) and they find it easier to play however once you get good at pc it’s a lot better imo

[celest mauve]

999

[autumn crater]

.-.

[celest mauve]

JK

I only have 28 atm

[austere bronze]

Yeah, the only reason you would find controller eaiser is because you're more used it it

[austere bronze]

"Only"💀

[fiery dagger]

I played console for atleast a good 100-200hrs before swapping to pc abt a year ago it just felt easier to hit keys and use equipment. Not saying its as good as pc

[celest mauve]

or worse

[fiery dagger]

Quick swappin between two specific weapons felt easier too

[celest mauve]

there are games that controller beats PC in

[fiery dagger]

?

[autumn crater]

In other games there are less keybinds needed so console can be easier to start off with however now Ik pc in superior in my opinion

[austere bronze]

You can do the same thing on PC, but faster if you desire

[austere bronze]

Eternal isn't one of them though, and it's what we are talkinc about

[fiery dagger]

Ik but i cant figure out where to put the auto quick switch key hell i dont even have a weapon wheel key

[autumn crater]

Yes

[autumn crater]

Mine is caps Ik weird but it just fits ig

My weapon wheel I mean

[fiery dagger]

Yk thats not a bad idea

[autumn crater]

Ty 🙂

[fiery dagger]

One issue i really have on pc its super stupid is i constantly misclick the console command key mid fights

[celest mauve]

trial and error

it took Tomas Eddison 10'001 tries to make the lightbulb

[autumn crater]

Are there any glitches that still work I’ve only started playing like a few days ago and no I don’t wanna use a tas

[fiery dagger]

Dosnt matter for me much now a days tho i just use specific keys for guns and swap with them

[autumn crater]

Interesting fact to know

[celest mauve]

kept trying until success

[autumn crater]

I constantly use the wrong weapons

[celest mauve]

we have all been there

[autumn crater]

When using like 567

I have small hands too which don’t rly help

[austere bronze]

They would be the same key, but you don't need a bind for the weapon wheel unless you want to do some specific tech

[austere bronze]

Switch binds

[autumn crater]

Can’t really

[austere bronze]

Why not?

[celest mauve]

doom guy is only 6 inches taller than me at 6'8 to my 6'2

[autumn crater]

What would I change them too I prob could u rught

[celest mauve]

yet I feel like I am 3 feet tall at times

[autumn crater]

I’m like 5’4 💀

[celest mauve]

it's easier for you, trust me

[autumn crater]

?

[celest mauve]

try buying clothes at 6 feet+

hard

[autumn crater]

Ig

Still most of my friends are like 5’11 so it’s not the best

And we play basketball at lunch 💀

[celest mauve]

you still have an easier time finding clothes

[celest mauve]

you have fun playing it?

[autumn crater]

I do I’m not good at it but it’s fun enough

[austere bronze]

You want your weapons/actions close to WASD or on your mouse

[celest mauve]

that's all that matters mate

[austere bronze]

That way you can quickly switch to your weapons

[celest mauve]

it's a GAME

[autumn crater]

I have everything in my mouse but I might rearrange u right

[autumn crater]

So wise

[austere bronze]

I wouldn't recommend binding rocket launcher, heavy cannon or combat shotgun to scroll wheel though

[celest mauve]

photo mode is actually OP

[austere bronze]

In what regard?

[celest mauve]

it can pause the game and let you see where the demons are if your audio isn't that good

[autumn crater]

I have heavy 2 ssg 1 crossbow(forgor name) and rocket 4

Crossbow 3

[autumn crater]

Ig

[celest mauve]

a sort of doom eternal version of

https://tenor.com/view/dio-the-world-power-charge-gif-13331683

[autumn crater]

Never watched that anime befor

Heard of it

But never watched

[celest mauve]

the world is a psychic ability that can stop time, but the user can move freely

like lagging time itself

[austere bronze]

Not really necessary

[autumn crater]

Ik

[austere bronze]

You see the demons in front of you, and since you at least should be on the move, demons behind you aren't an issue

[autumn crater]

The runes I have rn are gk speed the fall slow and aerodynamics

Are they good or should I switch them out

[celest mauve]

I am an opportunist

[autumn crater]

Unless they swarm you so you can’t move

[celest mauve]

yes

[austere bronze]

Chrono strike isn't that good, savagery isn't good either but it can be neat to speed glory kills up

[autumn crater]

Anyway I gtg to bed 😪

Ty guys

U helpful

[celest mauve]

though a nice ice bomb could give an opening to escape

[austere bronze]

You not being able to move because you are swarmed is directly caused by the player's own mistakes

[autumn crater]

Need to use my ice bomb and grenades more

[austere bronze]

Good night

[autumn crater]

Gn

[austere bronze]

You should never get swarmed or cornered

[celest mauve]

hard to avoid for someone like me when stuck in purple sludge

[austere bronze]

Getting stuck in purple goo mid-combat can only happen in one level

[celest mauve]

arc complex

[austere bronze]

And even there it's limited to 2 arenas I'm pretty sure, 1 of which has a quad damage powerup

[celest mauve]

the level I am currently on

[atomic linden]

Yeah and you should use meat hook to get out of it

[celest mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goodness-what-an-idea-why-didnt-i-facepalm-the-simpsons-gif-17489109

[real plaza]

I play DOOM on console so the yeet-hook isn't as op as it is on PC.

[celest mauve]

first time I heard of it being called yeet-hook

[austere bronze]

It's good enough for what is required in combat

[celest mauve]

I like it

[austere bronze]

Yeet-hooking is a special maneuver with the meathook where you strafe and slow down time (usually via weapon wheel) to go flying

Although it's often referred to a yeethook even when you don't slow down time

[atomic linden]

Yeah standard meat hook and double jump with a dash and ballista thrown in means you will never get hit

[celest mauve]

my method for mancubi is SSG and RL to MH in and shoot mid air before dashing back to avoid the AOE and use lock-on rockets on the mancubus while using chrono shift

[atomic linden]

The last lock on seems over kill I like to use Balista to finish him off

[celest mauve]

there, that should be enough lives

50 lives

[celest mauve]

i use it when there is fodder nearby to refuel ammo if I have to

[atomic linden]

My goto with cyber mancu is bhop strafe two iterations of pb rocket, throw a grenade mh in shoot ssg blood punch and flame belch

[austere bronze]

Lock-on deals 2700 damage, mancs have 3500 HP
1 ssg shot from a decent distance yields about 1000 damage, 1 rocket launcher shot 900, 1000+900=1900
Then you shot the ssg again, dealing even more damage

[celest mauve]

I do quick swap after setting them up in a quiet area before the fight

[austere bronze]

The grenade isn't needed if you lans all your shots

400+900=1300
1300*2=2600
2600=1000=3600

That's the pb rockets+blood punch

[atomic linden]

How many pb rockets are we talking

[austere bronze]

2 iterations, like you said

2 pb shots and 2 rockets

I've tried to restrict my grenade usage to moments when I'm not focusing on a single heavy demon, as I find it often goes off after the demons is dead

[atomic linden]

Yeah true makes sense. When do you usually use grenades then

[austere bronze]

Super heavies or optimally groups of demons

[atomic linden]

Got it, I usually like to first shoot one shot to soft falter the super heavy then throw the grenade when swapping to the second weapon, do other do this too?

[atomic linden]

What’s your goto combo for dealing with barons

Without using ice bomb ofc haha

[austere bronze]

As of recently I've begun to appreciate faltering, and I try to take advantage of it, so I usually try to soft falter the super heavy and and have my grenade hit, yeah

[austere bronze]

I don't have any, I don't have combo for most demons, it's usually random combos

But for barons I'll sometimes do some ssg punch canceling via blood punches for a quick kill

[atomic linden]

Right what’s your sorta strategy rather for barons? I try to use the pb ssg close to him to keep him locked down but can be tough with other demons harassing me

[austere bronze]

Same for tyrants

[atomic linden]

Yeah punching ssg is good too

Might be a good way to end a string of pb ssg heat blast ssg ngl

[austere bronze]

Most of the time I won't kill a super heavy in one go, I stay back while moving around to attack most of the demons

Often there are too many demons around to go in close

[atomic linden]

I keep forgetting that rlly good players memorize demon spawns too

[celest mauve]

can't I just keep repeating old missions to grind weapon points?

[azure oriole]

Doesn't work that way

You can only get what you haven't already gotten

[young mango]

Mid air movement is kind of annoying when spanning long distances

Around like -30 m/s vertical velocity the game just says nah you’re not allowed to double jump anymore

[azure oriole]

That must be why I have trouble getting the pain elemental toy

[young mango]

probably

Also the fact that double jumping severely limits your mid air mobility shortly after being initiated

not really enough to notice during regular play, still going by that “spanning long distances” thing

[frigid atlas]

Same

[grim musk]

Check out dooms reddit

Someone made an organic bonesaw skin for the chainsaw, looks damn nice

[shell fox]

playing eternal for the first time after 2 years

the difference between 2016 fodder and eternal fodder is insane

[glossy warren]

Huh

[atomic linden]

Eternal fodder is deadly lowkey

On nightmare specially

[fossil coral]

i lost my ultra nightmare run to and a zombie bc i forgot to pause my game

[azure oriole]

Doesnt compare to 2016's fodder

[midnight sparrow]

Eternal Imp could never be as deadly as a 2016 Imp on a wall

[fossil coral]

i just lost another ultra nightmare run because i fell through the wall into lava

[violet zealot]

RIP

[fossil coral]

i will put it in videos channel

the clip

[violet zealot]

Simple solution: chea-

I'm kidding, don't cheat, you got it

[tired peak]

Yea but you have extra on nightmare. . .

Or just on ultra nightmare I forgor

[fossil coral]

i havent found any extra lives on ultra nightmare (the farthest ive made is cultist base)

[violet zealot]

I don't even think there are extra lives on UN

[tired peak]

Bc you can't on UN

But it's the Nightmare mode am not sure if there is or not

I need to complete the ancient god both part on nightmare am struggling

And there's no predator suit to help when am gonna fight the king so ya pain

I just really want those sweat trophies and milestone

[fossil coral]

Ya thats what thought,

Whoops i put comma

[zealous lark]

I feel the pain brother. I once died in one of the master levels in UN after punching a climbable wall LITERALLY FOUR CONSEQUITIVE F*CKING TIMES! I was in disbelief and just had one of those insane joker laughs after that.

[tame topaz]

I love my imps randomly climbing walls and gaining the ability to never flinch when shot, charge up shots and snipe you across the map, and delete you without effort with stray fireballs for 75 DMG.

[azure oriole]

I remember tryna keep the imps OFF the wall

[austere bronze]

How big of an issue do you guys thinks 2016 imps would've been in Eternal with the massively improved movement? (genuine question)

[strange gale]

better movement would make them whiff much more consistently, but brink of death just existing is way more important here

[lilac snow]

hey guys still having this issue. am begging for help :c

[rancid nova]

Why do Pinkys suddenly have the power to instakill you at full health

And turn 4 corners while dashing

Ultra Nightmare be bringing out all the bullshit to try and stop me lmao

[burnt moss]

Did they buff the Tyrant fight on Urdak? Heavies keep respawning until Tyrant dies; I don’t think that was always the case.

I should call it the totem fight actually

[austere bronze]

They don't

[strange gale]

they don't, but the charge attack ignores brink of death and can do up to 120 damage without buffs

[jolly kernel]

there's plenty of times where when I'm trying to glory kill an enemy, I somehow blood punch him instead lol

[rancid nova]

Ohhh it does

Yeah, the one in Doom Hunter base clipped around like 4 or so corners mid-charge and killed me

Only reason I didn't just BP it is cuz I wasn't expecting it to casually do that

[strange gale]

damage scales with distance traveled btw

[rancid nova]

Yeah it went pretty far to hit me

Like I said, 4 corners

I blame that one particular door in SGN for this

[jolly kernel]

I frequently kill Carcasses by blood punching them, then glory killing them to instantly refill the blood punch

do you guys kill them that way too?

[fringe torrent]

Yup

[austere bronze]

usually no

[supple hinge]

Hello. Is there a RAGE/RAGE 2 discord?

[fringe torrent]

Another fan??? Based

I don't think so but the QuakeCon server has a (dead) RAGE channel

[austere bronze]

it isn't worth it for me to go in close to a demon just to kill something as puny as a carcass

[jolly kernel]

it's a really good way for killing them

when you blood punch them they instantly get staggered

it's like you killed them without wasting any resources

[austere bronze]

I often don't even try to kill them, they naturally die naturally by splash damage

otherwise I may do pb+1 or 2 stickies depending on if it's a headshot or not

[jolly kernel]

Prowlers also instantly get into a glory kill state when they are shot with the Ballista

that seems to be a good strat

the Carcass is a genius type enemy. since it often blocks you especially when you are about to glory kill another demon by constantly putting shields, it will always be one of the first demons you want to get rid of in a fight

[austere bronze]

eh

I'll just let them do whatever, they don't really bother me

but they certainly are a good enemy

[jolly kernel]

I don't hate them either

[azure oriole]

I think the carcass probably would be good if he wasn't spammed so often and so badly and if he wasn't bugged so that he can shoot a shield clean through a wall to get to you sometimes

[autumn crater]

Yn the black caco guys what are they weak to I usually just ballista them

I’m asking if there is any better way to kill them

[austere bronze]

a demon being utilized in a bad way doesn't make it bad
and is there really that much carcass spam?

[austere bronze]

cacos and pain elementals both take increased damage from the ballista and its mod arbalest

[azure oriole]

I think the combo of the bad utilization + the bug makes him annoying. Also yes, while there isn't many arenas where carcass is spammed, he is spammed extremely badly in the ones he is spammed in.

[austere bronze]

annoying doesn't equate to bad though

[autumn crater]

I like carcasses it’s a unique and slightly annoying enemy

[azure oriole]

Eh, I view him as both

[fiery dagger]

any ballista mod even slightly touches a carcas he gets one shotted

even the weakest destroyer blade

[chilly ruin]

ballista is the goat

[austere bronze]

truth, best weapon in the game

[fiery dagger]

very fast and precise

its like a pb but 4x the dmg and not a mod

[chilly ruin]

i wish you could stagger the cacodemons with arbalest

thats the only thing its missing

[austere bronze]

a little bit more than 2x damage

[fiery dagger]

if u get a crowd of cacodemons and shoot one of the with arebalest and cacodemon within the blast radias all of them get staggered

[strange gale]

2.15x

[austere bronze]

2.15x the damage

[fiery dagger]

ah

i never really looked into it

[chilly ruin]

but that happens like 3 times in the whole game

[fiery dagger]

have you ever played a single ml

omds

[austere bronze]

destroyer blade is the mod you'll have equipped most of the time, and that can stagger cacos

[fiery dagger]

they spam caco swarms so much

[austere bronze]

multiple of them too

[chilly ruin]

i love caco

[austere bronze]

plus, a straight up kill from the arbalest is better anyways

[chilly ruin]

hes even my pfp

i am using the fortnite version tho

[fiery dagger]

caco does 150 dmg tho on a bite

[chilly ruin]

the goat

[fiery dagger]

what do you think is the most iconic doom demon overall the games combined

[chilly ruin]

id actually play battlemode if they had caco not just pain elemental

[chilly ruin]

what do you think im gonna say

[fiery dagger]

yep

[chilly ruin]

[fiery dagger]

the archvile?

[chilly ruin]

fuck that thing

[austere bronze]

then don't get bitten🙂

[fiery dagger]

ik ik

[chilly ruin]

caco is ruthless

[fiery dagger]

but i dont know if its my first play through and some caco joins the game out of nowwhere

or that one room in supergorenest where theres 2 buff totems and like 6 cacos

[chilly ruin]

caco paradise

tbf anywhere there is one is a paradise

[fiery dagger]

so

every level?

[chilly ruin]

how did you get that picture of me in your pfp

[fiery dagger]

the caco?

its a fake hes just cosplaying

[chilly ruin]

[rancid nova]

Getting bitten by a Cacodemon in Ultra Nightmare is the most heart-stopping experience I've had in a while

[chilly ruin]

hes too powerful

[fiery dagger]

hes slow af tho

[chilly ruin]

when is caco spinoff game

[austere bronze]

caco bites are very dangerous, luckily very, very easy to avoid

[chilly ruin]

or at least put him in battlemode

[fiery dagger]

if u really get close to him he actually takes a while to hit. and hes super easy to hill

[rancid nova]

I'd honestly rather fight a Marauder

[chilly ruin]

[fiery dagger]

i find the ranged spam attack worse that deletes your hp dead quick

especially on the first few lvls of a un run

[rancid nova]

my current best in UN is SGN

And I only died bc a door closed on me for some reason and I got Revenant backshots

[chilly ruin]

[fiery dagger]

if u can get to around that point in a un run its pretty much smooth sailing up untill the hell lvls i forgot how to spell them

the big tower climb. argent tower the sequel

[rancid nova]

Nekravol?

[fiery dagger]

yes

[rancid nova]

Is it PT1 or PT2 of Nekravol that has the Marauder

Also isn't there a Tyrant at the top of the Argent tower

[fiery dagger]

yeah

[rancid nova]

My Crucible in question:

[burnt moss]

Ok seriously did this game get buffed in the last year? There’s a lot more demons than I remember in this encounter (final half-weapon point before IoS)

[fiery dagger]

i forgot where the maruader spawns

ik theres the deadly part in the hallway where a snake spawns too

[rancid nova]

In the big blue room

[azure oriole]

He's already in DOOM 2016 multiplayer at least

[rancid nova]

Also Whiplashes can be sorted easily

[fiery dagger]

triple rockets

[rancid nova]

Lock-On Burst

[fringe torrent]

And SnapMap

[austere bronze]

Well yeah, they got like no HP

[glossy warren]

PT2

In the soul excavator room

[burnt moss]

Only if you see them though. They’re the only demon where the first time I see them might be when they kill me

[spring panther]

my best on un so far is exultia because i fucking despise the entire level

[spring panther]

both ballista mods included

[rancid nova]

U need tips?

I basically have a full plan for all of UN up to DHB

[chilly aspen]

Which sentinel crystal upgrade should I go for first?

[azure oriole]

ammo

[fiery dagger]

it dosnt really matter for the first one

[austere bronze]

I usually go for the 2 that gives faster flame belch cooldown

Then loot magnet

[austere bronze]

(By "usually" I mean the last time I played that far into the camapign)

[austere bronze]

2 armor upgrades, 1 ammo and 1 health+ 50% faster flame belch cooldown and way longer loot pickup range

[spring panther]

nah im good on that

[chilly aspen]

can I use the toggle command to create a togglable keybind?

[atomic linden]

Taras nabad is harder than both nekravol tf is this balancing

[strange gale]

certainly a take

[glossy warren]

One of the takes ever

[atomic linden]

Honestly the meat hook to ballista down to quick swap ending with a dash and repeat the cycle pretty much makes you unhittable ngl

Been abusing it as of late and now am able to see how m1 stays alive for so long regardless of the amount of demons

[dense quail]

Just hit 100 straight deaths on the Samur fight PE/DK stage on UV. Having so much fun with this

Genuinely have no idea what they were thinking with this, it has no flow, no enjoyment, is just pointlessly hard compared to the rest of the entire game

[young mango]

I mean you could always lower the difficulty, it wouldn’t hurt

[dense quail]

Can you do that mid-save?

[young mango]

Yes

Unless you’re playing extra lives mode

[dense quail]

TIL

[teal mist]

Who was the betrayer? I haven't collected all the codexes but in fr curiouse

[tiny nova]

why does my game freeze when i alt-tab

now it stutters alot when i restarted it

[storm eagle]

@austere bronze wake up

[acoustic lark]

Dont alt tab then

[storm eagle]

Try holding tab down for longer, mine does the same sometimes and I just try it a few times til it works

[lusty lark]

Guys how do i keep a certain commands always on? when i activate some commands then close the game and reopen it i find the commands have turned off and i have to turn them on again

[storm eagle]

Which ones?

[lusty lark]

hands_fovscale 1
hands_offsetz -0.04
hands_offsetx 0.2

i'm bored of writing them everytime i open the game, i would be glad if you know a way to keep them on

[storm eagle]

Yeah when you close the game and go back in you have to type those commands in every time

[lusty lark]

isn't there any other way?

[storm eagle]

Not that I know of. Everyone I know just has to type them in every time

[lusty lark]

could dev gui help? i don't know how to use it

[storm eagle]

@young mango

[young mango]

you're able to put certain console commands into the launch options

[storm eagle]

@young mango these ones?

[young mango]

idk its trial and error so maybe

[lusty lark]

what is that tho sry

[young mango]

steam launch options

[lusty lark]

seems too complicated for my smooth brain haha but thanks

[austere bronze]

Im awake.

Question is, are you?

[austere bronze]

Put them like this into launch options:+hands_fovscale 1 +hands_offsetz -0.04 +hands_offsetx 0.2

[storm eagle]

unfortunately

[lusty lark]

it worked!! thank you very much

[storm eagle]

Oops I was wrong. Good job @austere bronze you try hard😂

[austere bronze]

No problem!

[austere bronze]

I was once a fov enthusiast myself, and I can't take the time to type the commands out, I have important stuff to do

Like beating that encounter again and dungeon clawler on nightmare

[storm eagle]

A FOV ENTHUSIAST! lmao this is the best I'm using it from now on

[austere bronze]

Hahaha

[umbral yarrow]

is it possible to revert Samuel Hayden's voice to sound more like a person?

[tired widget]

Hey guys

For completing the cant perfection milestone do I have to do the whole campaign again?

[fiery dagger]

Pretty much

[tired widget]

No way

Where are a lot of demons to kill?

For mobile turret mastery

[real plaza]

Arc Complex

[rancid nova]

The second Buff Totem area in Super Gore Nest can be farmed infinitely once you clear the heavy demons. Only takes a few minutes.

[fluid fable]

Ngl Tag 2 is overhated it's comparable to base campaign

[thorny cradle]

Yeah I mean honestly it’s probably got the best level design. At least I think it’s better than TAG 1

[fluid fable]

facts it's strong

[austere bronze]

only that it's a bit easier even without the hammer and it has arenas with mostly fodder spam

the introduced demons are also quite terrible

overhated though? maybe

[fluid fable]

No it definitely is overhated. Don't lie to me

[thorny cradle]

I mean there’s only so much you can do with dlc

[lusty lark]

i think it is easier than tag1 without the hammer but if we count the hammer it is twice easier

[austere bronze]

it's certainly easier than tag1 without the hammer

[thorny cradle]

Blud you be playing on I’m to young to die or sum shi

[austere bronze]

tag2's strongest point is just the general combat of DE already established

[lusty lark]

why did they put the stone imps😭

[austere bronze]

it didn't introduce any good enemies, the weapon introduced was very meh and the arenas are eh

[austere bronze]

I didn't say it was easy (although, it is), I just said it's easier than tag1

[fluid fable]

The tag 2 was great in an arena and i don't think the other ones are as good

[austere bronze]

because forcing players to use 1 specific thing is fun, right? ...right?

[lusty lark]

Hell no haha

i always try not to use the hammer but i can't help it when i see these annoying creatures

[austere bronze]

tag2's enemies are like how many people tried making DE's normal enemies appear

[lusty lark]

they are as bullet sponge as heavy demons

[austere bronze]

(forced to use certain stuff blah blah blah)

[thorny cradle]

Honestly the sponge enemies spice it up for me

[fluid fable]

Yeah I mean you could think that but it's just another game mechanic

I mean this just feeds more into the toxic vitriol surrounding tag 2

Even though this large proportion of the community that loves it

[fringe torrent]

"it's just another game mechanic" That's not an excuse at all lmao

[fluid fable]

It wasn't mean to be an excuse it's just a fact

[fringe torrent]

It's a fact that means nothing. Just because it is one doesn't mean it's objectively fun

[austere bronze]

?
I could introduce a game mechanic that always kills you in 2 seconds no matter what, making the game impossible, would that be excusible?

[lusty lark]

it's a boring mechanic

[austere bronze]

yup

[fringe torrent]

I like it personally but it's objectively not good

[thorny cradle]

Objectivity is subjective. Also it is fun have you not played it?????

[fringe torrent]

No I actually don't know what DOOM is, I only play GOOD games like Hello Neighbor and Seaman!!!

[thorny cradle]

Everything you just said is objectively not subjective

[fringe torrent]

I only speak truth

[austere bronze]

I think one of the main purposes of the tag2 demons was to "force" people to use mods n' weapons they don't normally use because they're bad/worse, but why not just buff the mods/weapons then??

[fluid fable]

I mean if you make an obviously bad fake mechanic for the sake of argument then no it wouldn't. That's blowing it out of proportion

[austere bronze]

obviously it is hyperbole, but I used it to demonstrate my point, which is that you stating "it's a game mechanic" doesn't make it good/fun and it doesn't mean anything either

[lusty lark]

yeah exactly, they can make the microwave bean make you move faster or at least the same default speed instead of slowing you down and makes you vulnerable

[thorny cradle]

Everything ID does is fun that’s why they call it the fun zone

[lusty lark]

the microwave beam mod is so bad that i rather keep the spirits alive than using it on them

[fiery dagger]

I have seen people use microwave beam in quick swaps for a quick stun

[austere bronze]

also just making it so that there is no delay for when you start to fire it and when you bring it down would be a huge quality of life improvement

[fringe torrent]

-# Why do so many people call it ID???

[fluid fable]

I mean that wasn't something I implied

[thorny cradle]

Why do you not call it ID home boy?

[fringe torrent]

Because it's id not ID!!!

[austere bronze]

when I was playing DE yesterday, I was actually in need of the microwave beam (super rare), but it didn't do shit since it takes so long before it starts to fire

[fringe torrent]

ID is what you give to the funny policeman if you are caught drinking and driving

[austere bronze]

why even state such an obvious fact then?

[austere bronze]

is this sarcastic?

[fluid fable]

I mean just because you know something doesn't mean it's obvious

I don't get your point

[thorny cradle]

Point me to one thing ID has done that’s not fun

[lusty lark]

it is extremely situational mod, the best situation to use it in is when you are cornered by a possessed heavy demon

[austere bronze]

tag1 demons, tag2 demons, the marauder, horde mode, early game of DE etc etc

[austere bronze]

just shoot normally for higher DPS

you can dash backwards instead of stunning the demon

[fluid fable]

I mean you could literally use it at any point how is that situational

[austere bronze]

because you using it would be way worse than other options

[fluid fable]

I mean only if you don't know how to use it

[thorny cradle]

Subjective tho

[lusty lark]

yes you can but is it as efficient as not using it at all and use something else?

[austere bronze]

nope

[fiery dagger]

No i mean swap to the mod use it for like a second and it stuns the whatever demon for a few seconds then swap back to high dps. Only really usefull if its getting out of hand and you need to hold it down.

[fluid fable]

Bro if you need anything more than that I don't really understand

[austere bronze]

how does one think that it's worth it to falter 1 demon in an arena of 15 when you lose DPS for doing it??

[thorny cradle]

It’s all about “muh efficiency” which you gues

[austere bronze]

that leads to decreased DPS

and you can dash backwards instead of stunning the demon

utilize all of the movement options

[fiery dagger]

Dont ask me ask the guy who did it i forgot who it was

[austere bronze]

UnderTheMayo perhaps

[fringe torrent]

Bro Mayo keeps catching strays it's so funny

[fluid fable]

UnderTheMayo mentioned. You're washed

[fiery dagger]

Can i get two campaign milestones in one? I am trying to get all of them i have already beaten it all un am trying now to do both an extra life mode and cant perfect perfection if i did them at the same time would it give them both?

[fringe torrent]

It would give you both yes

[fiery dagger]

Alr mint

[austere bronze]

?

[fluid fable]

Why would you want to do that though. That takes the fun out of it

[fluid fable]

What

[austere bronze]

what did you mean with this?

[fiery dagger]

Do what two in one? Its a challange and quicker too

It would be a fun challenge

[fluid fable]

I mean this is a low brow low tier content we're talking about

[thorny cradle]

Objectively subjective my guy….

[fluid fable]

I mean I don't see how that's neccesary

[fiery dagger]

What are you lot on abt

[fluid fable]

Not everything "Fun" is worth doing

[fiery dagger]

To complete all the milestones?

[fluid fable]

I mean in that way

[austere bronze]

yeah, that dude doesn't put out the best videos at all times lol

[thorny cradle]

No but like nothing about art (doom eternal) is objective

[austere bronze]

his DE videos are also quite misleading

[fiery dagger]

What are you lot on abt

[fringe torrent]

Doing them both at once is arguably more fun

[fluid fable]

I mean think about it if everyone loves his videos then something must be wrong. Think of the ratio

[fringe torrent]

Like you're always at risk of losing everything that makes it more thrilling

[thorny cradle]

Thrill seeking is objectively not fun when it’s that risky

[fiery dagger]

Why play ultra nightmare then

[fringe torrent]

What's with you and objectivity, sir

[thorny cradle]

That’s a good question

[austere bronze]

I relatively recently watched his 2 guides for the game, and like, they're completely empty, they don't give many tips at all lol

[fluid fable]

Wait did I miss something

What is is wrong with objectivity

[fiery dagger]

For a challenge for people who want more

[fluid fable]

Why are we hating on that now??

[thorny cradle]

Yet another subjective take ….

[fiery dagger]

I am actually dead confused i said doing two challenges in one would be fun and i am getting lectured on how my opinion of fun isnt true

[fluid fable]

I mean I guess, but not really

[thorny cradle]

Yo must be fun at parties

[fluid fable]

Bro this is a doom server. Grass exists go outside or to the dictionary if you want objectivity/subjectivity

[thorny cradle]

Huh?

[fringe torrent]

How is going outside related to objective and subjective lmfao

[hallow igloo]

Hey guys what is doom is it eternal

[fiery dagger]

What

[lusty lark]

Yes

[thorny cradle]

Both are integral parts of deliberations

[austere bronze]

yeah idk what these 2 dudes are on lol

[fluid fable]

I mean an opinion can't be true or false but that's definitely not ideal

[thorny cradle]

I don’t know about this other guys but I’m just giving my opinions

[fringe torrent]

They should get a warm cup of hot chocolate, some Rayman 1, put on rain ASMR and think about life

[austere bronze]

I should go back to playing doom eternal

[fluid fable]

"Your opinion" and the whole time it is just being the subjective/objective expert

[fiery dagger]

People are aloud to have different opinions of what is fun?

[fluid fable]

like what are you talking about

[fluid fable]

Sure but it's not ideal

[fringe torrent]

Hey Jack you mentioned dictionaries right? Go look up what "bait" is

[fiery dagger]

What isnt ideal

[fluid fable]

Me disliking something isn't bait bro

[fringe torrent]

Neo is baiting and you are falling for it lmao

[fluid fable]

Wait what

[fringe torrent]

Have you thought about why they go on about objective subjective so much

[thorny cradle]

Blud I’m just existing

[fringe torrent]

They're fucking with you mate go rest

[fiery dagger]

I cba am out

[fluid fable]

It can be arguably more difficult or risky than playing on ultra nightmare

[austere bronze]

what if that's desirable?

[fluid fable]

Bro you want to say you're existing but ANOMEQ said you are baiting so which is it

[austere bronze]

difficulty isn't bad

[fluid fable]

DIfficulty is not ideal tho

[fringe torrent]

I like the capitalization on that

[fluid fable]

My keyboard killed itself

[fringe torrent]

You should tend to it

[thorny cradle]

What do I have to gain from baiting a fellow player. We are a relatively small community when you consider the macro scale, that being the rest of the gaming community as a whole. We need to look out for each other and baiting would only decide us further

[fluid fable]

Like bro jumped on bandwagon when I said I like tag 2 and then instantly backpedaled

[fringe torrent]

You say the last part like it's a fact though... it's subjective!!!

[fluid fable]

What is this ChatGPT ah response

You are clearly baiting atp

[fringe torrent]

I'll let you guys have fun by yourself now I'm off to do something

[fluid fable]

This is not fun bro

[thorny cradle]

Division is objectively occurring right now

[fluid fable]

omg

If I see any word that ends in ective ima go insane

[thorny cradle]

lol that had an ly at the end pleb

[fringe torrent]

I love watching a retrospective

[fluid fable]

Ah yes because that's so important

[austere bronze]

not if you want it to be easy, but you may be looking for a challenge, or in this case the chance to do 2 milestones in 1 go, which makes them signicficantly faster

[thorny cradle]

Blud prove your not an npc give me your most controversial doom eternal OPINION

[fringe torrent]

They should replace the PC with a copy of Rayman 1 and make the game about Rayman 1 but you play as Rayman 1 and you fight against hordes of Rayman 1 from Rayman 1

[thorny cradle]

Again with muh efficiency

[thorny cradle]

Npc ahh response

[fluid fable]

You are the most NPC here

[fringe torrent]

Homie was told it's bait and still replies lmao

[thorny cradle]

Bro what is your problem leave me alone who hurt you

[austere bronze]

8/10 game, really badly balanced and glory killing boring

[thorny cradle]

Bro it’s not fn bait what are you on

[fluid fable]

I mean just because it's bait doesn't mean I can't reply. Also he just said it's not bait so I think you were wrong

[austere bronze]

i agree

thanks for this enlightening

[fringe torrent]

You don't have to stop replying but you should be aware it's just gonna waste your time

Objectively and subjectively bait though!

[thorny cradle]

Bro balancing is just fine

[fluid fable]

I mean it is not a waste of time since he said it's not baiting so now it is a normal convo

[fringe torrent]

Well, like I said, have fun

[fluid fable]

k thanx

[thorny cradle]

Jack you need a father figure and AnomeQ is trying to fulfill that

[austere bronze]

then why is half the mods completely neglected and the other half is really good? why are half of the runes completely neglected? why are 2 weapons never used and 1 only for a specific mod?

[fluid fable]

Nvm then. You said you were not troll and lied. you will not be my friend now

[fringe torrent]

How many times have I been compared to a parent now

[austere bronze]

hi mom

[thorny cradle]

How is auto mod for shotgun not fun?

[fluid fable]

goodbye. i wanted to have fun times but day ruined by this bait NEOLUKEBOT

[thorny cradle]

Don’t hit yourself in the way out

[fluid fable]

Have a good day

[austere bronze]

whether something is fun or not does not have to do with balancing
but it is also boring, while using it you're taking away most of the movement in the game and it's just holding down m1+m2, which is veryyy fun...

[spring panther]

[thorny cradle]

Muh efficiency ahhh argument

[spring panther]

it might be fun but is it useful

[thorny cradle]

Makes my dopamine receptors go brrrrrr

[austere bronze]

Whether something is efficient or not is directly correlated to how balanced it is

We were never talking about how fun it is

[thorny cradle]

Balanced gameplay is not always fun

[austere bronze]

You just threw in that red herring

[austere bronze]

Non sequitur🙄

[thorny cradle]

Blud why you talking about birds wtf is a red harring

[spring panther]

i love when my game is unfair in the direction of the demons

[austere bronze]

The game is unfair for the advantage of the player IMO

[thorny cradle]

Bro no one said that

[spring panther]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

[austere bronze]

Also, wouldn't it be more fun to use the full auto if it was actually good?
Keeping the same mods but making them all reliable would be better, no?

[thorny cradle]

That don’t look like a bird to me this is a doom eternal server

[spring panther]

thats what i was trying to say but im mega stupid when it comes to words

[spring panther]

you asked what a red herring was

[thorny cradle]

How do you make it better than it already is?

[spring panther]

no clue since sticky bombs can wildly outclass it

[thorny cradle]

Blud I asked about full auto not bombs

[spring panther]

i know im just saying

[thorny cradle]

Say something about full auto then

[spring panther]

its an ammo devourer

[tired widget]

Thanks!

[glossy warren]

Full auto bad LoL

[spring panther]

full auto bad because inefficient sticky bombs good because 2x headshot multiplier

[glossy warren]

This guy gets it.

[strange gale]

this shows you misunderstand balance

balance in a singleplayer context means all of your options fulfill worthwhile niches at an adequate enough level to meet what the game expects you to do

it doesn't mean that everything is equally good at everything

that'd be stupid

full auto does not fulfill a worthwhile niche because it shares its function (ammo refill, specifically shotgun shells) with stronger and easier to use options, namely chainsaw, hammer, and ammo pickups placed by the level designers

ammo pickups unironically outclass it

this means the game is too bloated for fa to ever be balanced

if you were to remove the hammer and static ammo pickups, extend the chainsaw cooldown, and make fa drop all ammo types besides bfg and crucible, it'd be a reasonably good option

but as the game exists right now, fa is the worst option for anything you could conceivably use it for

think about this: if fa didn't exist and you had no memories of it, would you think of—let alone want—a weapon like it?

[eternal kelp]

Can i go to the fortress of doom after finishing the game?

[fringe torrent]

Yes, just press "continue game"

[burnt moss]

If FA didn’t exist I’d invent it as a main weapon in place of SSG tbh.

[storm eagle]

wh-whyyyy?

[burnt moss]

Because a fully automatic shotgun is cooler than a big shotgun. What if the SSG was automatic for instance?

Finally beat Icon of Sin on Nightmare after a long break from Nightmare. It’s much harder than UV imo

[storm eagle]

To each their own.

[covert briar]

Hello

Playing doom eternal on nightmare mode is really a nightmare

[fringe torrent]

The fuck is that pfp dude

[azure oriole]

what were the minions doing during 1945 ahh moment

[storm eagle]

yeah that's fucked

[autumn crater]

There should be a stealth mode where enemies are invisible like some pinkies or a mods where you have blindness so you can only see so far in front of you this would stop people from just ballistaing and pbing the stronger enemies without any risk + the speedruns for it would be cool imo

[austere bronze]

why not just give enemies better ranged attacks to fix the first issue instead of forcing you to search for 10 years to find a demon?

and speedruns got everything routed anyways, so it would only add a bit more RNG

[autumn crater]

True but I think it would be annoying if 10imps start to beam you from across an arena although they could add like a riot shield weapon which would be cool

+instead of stumbling around in the dark I think a recon weapon would be cool

[austere bronze]

You don't have to buff all ranged attacks, but even if that was the case, I can tell you that imps are certainly not your biggest concern

[autumn crater]

True

[tidal nymph]

This really wouldn’t

[autumn crater]

Ye wouldn’t be for speedruns

Got that wrong

[tidal nymph]

Pb ballista is extremely effective against spectre whiplashes

[autumn crater]

But it might be a fun challenge for people who are experienced with the game(unlike me)

[austere bronze]

Fog stuff isn't really fun

At least I don't think so

[tidal nymph]

If you want something harder there’s a bunch of mods that’ll scratch that.

Often times modders do make several or all the enemies invisible

[austere bronze]

Someone should mod me invisible

I think keeping your distance isn't a bad thing, and if that makes the game too easy, play harder stuff

[azure oriole]

No way its lightningbreak

[feral minnow]

Running closer to the enemy is more badass tho

[sharp sapphire]

Fr

I can't stop dying

[austere bronze]

Until you die

[feral minnow]

Too badass to die (i'm a noob)

Idk it's not as fun spammin shit at long range

[sharp sapphire]

Somebody else hates the Whiplash?

Is so annoying

[young mango]

A lot of people, it’s actually something I’ve seen mentioned basically weekly here

[feral minnow]

I did in doom 2016 as i remember

Not really on eternal

[austere bronze]

I dislike it a bit, I don't hate it

[sharp sapphire]

[austere bronze]

True, it's more fun🙂

[feral minnow]

Well i mean

[young mango]

I forget about the really specific mechanic where you’re invulnerable to waveblasts for a window of 500ms after double jumping

Why does that even exist

[feral minnow]

You can't get glory kills far away

[austere bronze]

I see that as a positive

[violet zealot]

finally reached my least favorite level in Eternal

[young mango]

Which one

[feral minnow]

Ur weird

[austere bronze]

And how far away are you realistically going to be from everything? Not that far

[young mango]

Is it immora

[violet zealot]

Urdak

[young mango]

Bad

[austere bronze]

What😭

[violet zealot]

I don't care for the warp things within that level at all

[young mango]

Urdak is goated

[violet zealot]

I fucking love Urdak's atmosphere, though

[austere bronze]

Urdak got some of the best encounters in the entire game

[sharp sapphire]

IDK, it sounds unnecessary

[violet zealot]

I find most of the fights really good

[feral minnow]

Fr i love urdak lmao

[violet zealot]

it's just those warp gates

or whatever the hell you wanna call them

[sharp sapphire]

What the hell

[austere bronze]

Your speaking privilege has been revoked, Coder

[feral minnow]

lol

[sharp sapphire]

[violet zealot]

A man is not allowed to have an opinion, I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[feral minnow]

Depends on the opinion tbh

[violet zealot]

usually for levels there's that one thing that makes me dislike it

[glossy warren]

Best level is icon of sin bc thats when the game ends

[violet zealot]

lmao

[azure oriole]

Real

[feral minnow]

lol

[young mango]

Best level is world spear because I said so

[sharp sapphire]

What are the levels that You dislike the most?

[azure oriole]

I fw unnerfed Immora

[young mango]

What could that even mean

Immora was never nerfed

[austere bronze]

1. Hell on earth
2. World spear
3. Exultia
4. Immora
   Or something like dat

[feral minnow]

Super gore nest was kinda annoying

[sharp sapphire]

Sorry if my english is bad btw

[azure oriole]

Slayer gate and some spawns in the possessed tyrant fight

[violet zealot]

I love SGN

[sharp sapphire]

I hate Exultia

[young mango]

TAG2 does not have slayer gates

[azure oriole]

Sorry I have brain damage

[feral minnow]

😄

[austere bronze]

The arenas in SGN are very well made, I can't speak on the enemy spawn though since I haven't played the main campaign in a while

[azure oriole]

I mistake Immora with Holt

For some fucking reason

Holy shit the brainrot is real

[feral minnow]

Yeah the arenas are good

I was stuck there for a while on nightmare

Maybe that's why

The ending with the timer sucked tho

[azure oriole]

Still I miss when cursed prowlers didnt have a sound cue when they spawn

Good ol' times

[feral minnow]

I once saw someone argue that the icon of sin isn't even building level 💀

man said he played eternal too

😄

[sharp sapphire]

[feral minnow]

His point was that doomguy defeated him by bullets

Plain stupid

[sharp sapphire]

[azure oriole]

I wish there were more city levels

[feral minnow]

Yeah

[covert briar]

Me I hate it Soo MUCH

I hate pinky th most

[feral minnow]

Pinky kinda ez to deal with

Ice grenade

The real question is did the minions serve the soviets or nazis in ww2

[strange gale]

you gonna wait out the cooldown every time there's more than one pinky?

[sharp sapphire]

Nah

[feral minnow]

Just go behind it xdd

Them*

Idk i don't have any problems with pinkies

[sharp sapphire]

Well, is annoying but i hate more Whiplashes(? Cause His ability to crawl

[strange gale]

i don't either, but it's like super obvious that ice bomb beats them

[sharp sapphire]

I don't know what Whiplash would be like in the plural

[azure oriole]

they were in an ice cave at that time

[feral minnow]

Supposedly

Marauders are more annoying

Keeping the right distance while you fight against other enemies too

[sharp sapphire]

I don't think so

Well, i only playey in the hurt me plenty dificulty

Played*

[feral minnow]

Their dogs and lasers are a pain to deal with if you're not focusing on them

[sharp sapphire]

The wolfs are so annoying fr

But lasers?

[feral minnow]

Yeah

[sharp sapphire]

I dint remember that

Like when he attacks you whith the Axe?

[feral minnow]

They throw out lasers from the axe

[sharp sapphire]

Yeah

From the little I've played in Nightmare I haven't seen any marauders so I don't know how annoying they are

[feral minnow]

They're just tougher

Maybe faster?

Idk

The doom hunters aren't hard to deal with

[sharp sapphire]

I always focus on them

[feral minnow]

Yeah

You kinda have to

With their shield

[sharp sapphire]

Well, when there are no tyrants

[feral minnow]

True

[sharp sapphire]

Its funny to attack those big boys

[feral minnow]

Yeah

[fiery dagger]

like doom 2?

[feral minnow]

They take so much damage 😄

[sharp sapphire]

[azure oriole]

Better than doom 2 but yeah

[sharp sapphire]

I miss Mighty Doom

It was fun

[feral minnow]

YeHh

It was fun

[sharp sapphire]

I have it instaled

But the servers are closed so

[young mango]

Idek what the doom hunters shield mechanic exists for when you can just aim for the sled

[sharp sapphire]

Idk

For people with poor aim, maybe

[feral minnow]

Aiming for the sled is just slower

[young mango]

It’s not

[feral minnow]

Idk from my personal experience i kill them faster with the plasma rifle countering shield

I used to focus on the sled then changed it up

[sharp sapphire]

I always kill them with the super shotgun Wherever I hit them first

[feral minnow]

Blood punch is very satisfying

Especially against the armored mancubus

[sharp sapphire]

Fr