doom-eternal

[woven peak]

I was in the SGN master level double marauder section

Marauder got stuck on top of a zombie, proceeded to die

[austere bronze]

You can also shoot the ballista into the ground near the marauders feet as he's coming out of a stun to stun him again

[woven peak]

You can also shoot grenades at his feet at the start of stun to extend it

Finally got through SGN ml on un

Still hate it

[storm eagle]

lol fair

I just replayed it again on NM, did terribly for some reason today

[rapid pagoda]

I'm practicing to be able to beat ultra nightmare mode on the campaign, and I'm still trying to learn how to effectively deal with mauraders.

They're really- Annoying.

[woven peak]

I do not care for spectre whiplashes

[austere bronze]

Just avoid them until you get a good opening and then you can shoot them

[rapid pagoda]

I might just be getting unlucky but they really don't like being open for hits.

It's also hard to deal with them when I have a million other demons that I'm trying to deal with, I do my best, and, I'll get better at managing it, it's just frustrating.

[woven peak]

Sometimes they will just.., not attack

[rapid pagoda]

The Mauraders?

[woven peak]

Yep

[rapid pagoda]

😯

[woven peak]

Their ai is insanely inconsistent

[rapid pagoda]

So avoid them and they'll eventually make themselves easy?

What makes their AI inconsistent?

[woven peak]

Just kill everything in the arena before it

Makes focusing on them easier

[rapid pagoda]

Oh, yeah working on it.

[austere bronze]

Why you should avoid them

[woven peak]

Or you can wait for them to just despawn lol

[rapid pagoda]

Avoid which? The demons in the arena or the maurader? Cause I always try to deal with the others before the maurader.

[woven peak]

Sometimes they just… disappear for no reason

Yes it happened to me on my UN playthrough of TAG 1

[rapid pagoda]

Oh, Wait seriously??? They can just, disappear?

💀

[woven peak]

Its a glitch lol

I dont even know what triggers it

I was in the first arena of the holt (the one with the marauder and tyrant) and i comboed the marauder once, went to go get more ammo and he was just gone

[rapid pagoda]

Well... That's interesting.

I'll keep it in mind as I'm practicing.

[woven peak]

Dont

Its never gonna happen when you want it

Just focus on quick switch combos

[rapid pagoda]

My main quick switch is super shot gun and ballista.

I've become really good at it.

[woven peak]

Yeah ssg ballista can work fine against him

Throw a grenade (or both) at his feet when you stun him

Like the second you stun him

[rapid pagoda]

I imagine they do insane damage?

Or at least, significant enough.

[woven peak]

They do good damage but the main reason youd wanna do it is to stagger him

Grenades are a hard stagger, so by staggering him right at the end of his stun period you can get a couple more shots off

[rapid pagoda]

Wait, I'm confused, isn't stun when they start flashing blue and orange? Which is stagger?

[woven peak]

That’s glory kill state

[rapid pagoda]

Oh wait, no the blue stars.

Right?

[woven peak]

Wait no thats faltering

Too many terms

[rapid pagoda]

Huh...

I'm so confused what's a stun. 😵‍💫

[woven peak]

Stagger is glory kill

Falter is when an enemy like stumbles after a Hard attack

[storm eagle]

Use pb combos on him

[woven peak]

When the marauder has the little stars above his head

[woven peak]

Not a great suggestion for someone just starting out with quick switch combos

[rapid pagoda]

Thats after you hit him when his eyes flash green correct?

[woven peak]

Yeah

[storm eagle]

😑

[rapid pagoda]

I've been playing DOOM for awhile, I'm just trying to become a master right now.

I'm confused though about a lot of the strategies.

[austere bronze]

Avoid the marauder

[woven peak]

Me when i dont think telling someone to pb combo a marauder right out the gate is a good idea

[rapid pagoda]

Guys can we... Not...
What even is a pb?

[woven peak]

Like learn to pd combo on something else before you pb combo a marauder

[woven peak]

Precision bolt

[rapid pagoda]

Oh with the ballista?

[woven peak]

Dude how am i angry

[austere bronze]

Pb combos do not require more effort than anything else

Simply pressing m2/holding it down is extremely simple

[woven peak]

Someone literally just told me to kill myself for saying that and im the angry one

[visual steeple]

Wrong response I am assuming.

Likely directed at Orion.

[austere bronze]

Yup

[rapid pagoda]

Can we just... Calm down guys?
It's not worth the argument.
We're all on the same team here. 👍

[visual steeple]

False I am on my own team.

[rapid pagoda]

Precision bolt with the heavy cannon I assume paired with what??

[visual steeple]

Any single shot gun

[tidal nymph]

The best pb combo in the world against the marauder is pb then lock on

[rapid pagoda]

From what I'm hearing there's multiple ways of disarming the marauder?

[tidal nymph]

honestly it's probably the easiest way anyone can learn to kill one

[woven peak]

Actually the best combo is chaingun chaingun chaingun

[rapid pagoda]

On a Maurader?

[woven peak]

No

I was being sarcastic

Dont use chaingun on a marauder

[rapid pagoda]

Oh... 😅

[tidal nymph]

well actually

the chaingun is very viable against the marauder

😍

[rapid pagoda]

I usually just go ballista and super shotgun.

1 shotgun.
1 ballista.
1 shotgun.

By then he's put the shield back up and is attacking me again.

It usually takes like... 6? 7 maybe hits?

But I usually die after the first round because he swarms me with the wolf.

[woven peak]

He summons the wolf if you shoot his shield

[rapid pagoda]

The wolf always ends up either killing me, or causing me to mess something up.

[woven peak]

(Or if an enemy shoots his shield)

Dont shoot his shield

[rapid pagoda]

Wait what-

That wasn't a random thing?

[lapis saddle]

Don’t shoot the shield

[woven peak]

No its always triggered by his shield being shot at

[visual steeple]

Most explained mechanic in doom eternal ever

[rapid pagoda]

Oh I see.
I'm guessing there is nothing you can do to disarm him other than wait for the eyes to flash green?

[lapis saddle]

You can also hit explosives near his feet to chip at him with splash damage

[rapid pagoda]

I've been playing for a long time, but I never read that so I must have missed it when I started playing eons ago.

[lapis saddle]

But those are your 2 options

[rapid pagoda]

Does the bomb hitting the shield trigger the wolf or only gun shot?

[lapis saddle]

Rockets/missiles? yes. Grenades? Not sure

[rapid pagoda]

Anything but the wolf.

[lapis saddle]

I don’t think the equipment grenades trigger the wolf, but I’m not sure. Gun explosive absolutely do on a direct hit though

[rapid pagoda]

Thanks! @lapis saddle @woven peak And everyone else!
This is useful stuff.

[tidal nymph]

Well thats not true

You just have to hit him around his shield

[woven peak]

Grenades do I believe if shot directly at their shield

Yeah any direct hit on his body will put him into stun

[austere bronze]

You could ask me about most of the things
@storm eagle also has good advice

[lapis saddle]

It’s generally faster and easier to just use the green flash but if you really need a second method for whatever reason you can make an explosion near him so he takes the splash damage

[storm eagle]

Eyyy thanks dude

[lapis saddle]

There used to be a thing where you could throw an ice grenade behind him to make him look away and effectively drop his defenses for a moment, but that was patched out for obvious reasons

[rapid pagoda]

I see, I try to hit around the shield and always get the wolf

[tidal nymph]

LM taught me everything I know 🙏🙏

[rapid pagoda]

Yeah ice doesn't work when I tried it. :(
I was thinking of freezing him then using lockon.

Then he just blocked it and carried on.

[lapis saddle]

Yeah you could never freeze him, but you used to be able to distract him with the ice bomb because he’d basically mistake it for a regular grenade. There still is a use for the ice bomb against him though: it’s a really good way of getting rid of the dog as it dies instantly from the freeze

[austere bronze]

The dog dies from almost anything

It's a waste of the ice grenade

[lapis saddle]

Sure, but in my experience it’s kind of hard to shoot the dog (I’m on controller) so the ice bomb helps there

[rapid pagoda]

I am too, so I can see it.

[lapis saddle]

The regular grenade has too long a fuse to work on the dog though. Instead use it during the quickswap combo to keep him stunned a little longer

[austere bronze]

Just shoot it with a precison bolt shot, if that is too hard I would recommend practicing your aim a little bit

[lapis saddle]

Also what do I need the ice bomb for when fighting the Marauder? It doesn’t work on him

[austere bronze]

You can't do anything with the ice bomb against him

Except making him come out of his stun

[tidal nymph]

just cover the grenades with peanut butter works 100%

[lapis saddle]

In that case I don’t see how freezing the dog is a “waste” since I wasn’t using the ice bomb anyway

[austere bronze]

... you can use it on other enemies

[lapis saddle]

I basically never confront the Marauder until his friends are dead though

[austere bronze]

This is a specious argument as you won't try to kill the dog only when confronting the marauder

[tidal nymph]

if you kill it how do you know what the dog's doing?

[lapis saddle]

Yeah I’m specifically talking about icing the dog while fighting the Marauder. Otherwise I just shoot the rocket launcher at it

[fringe torrent]

It's going to go play Duck Season

[rapid pagoda]

That's what I always try to do.

I can't really focus on him if he has friends up.

[austere bronze]

Under these terms, using the ice grenade for this purpose is fair

[lapis saddle]

I can shoot the dog, but that take more focus than I can afford to give him with his daddy bearing down on me

So I only do that if I’m already trying to avoid Daddy Marauder

[fringe torrent]

The Marauder is not a father

[austere bronze]

Then how can you fight an entire arena with "daddy marauder" chasing you down, but you can't shoot a single precision bolt shot on a dog?

[fringe torrent]

Doesn't it die from just a small bit of HC base fire too?

[lapis saddle]

Because I’m fighting the arena while running away from Daddy

[fringe torrent]

id loves making dog enemies weak as fuck so I wouldn't be surprised

[lapis saddle]

If I’m standing my ground I need to give that my undivided attention

[austere bronze]

The premise was that you're alone with the marauder and you can't shoot it because that is too much while being chased
But it isn't too much to kill an entire arena while being chased? Because that's what you said you do

It seems you change things to fit your arguments

[lapis saddle]

I’m not trying to run away while fighting the marauder though

I’m trying to run away while clearing the rest of the room

[woven peak]

Used to be able to set up instant stuns, was patched out

[rapid pagoda]

I honestly appreciate how easy the dog is to dispatch though.

Makes fighting the maurader easier then it could have been.

[austere bronze]

You could do it however... you know, dash backwards...

[fringe torrent]

Like I said, id loves making dog enemies weak

Wolf3D dogs have 1 hp

[keen ore]

Marauders are easy once you get their skill set down, the hard part is they’ll always require your full attention

[austere bronze]

The latter statement is untrue

[lapis saddle]

I could dash backwards, but I’ve always found running backwards to be very risky

[rapid pagoda]

Depends on how good you are with them no? I find tyrants require my full attention as of now because of how tanky they are.

[austere bronze]

How so?

[rapid pagoda]

But that's subject to change as you get better.

I imagine.

[austere bronze]

Fullt focusing on tyrants is (almost) always bad, that's called tunnel vision

[lapis saddle]

Because I tend to go right into walls or hazards if I can’t see where I’m going

[rapid pagoda]

Aren't they a priority to dispatch?

[austere bronze]

You should know the arena good enough so you can dash backwards once or twice

[austere bronze]

No, they are not very threatening

[woven peak]

Theyre just big walls

[austere bronze]

And you don't want to spend too long on a single enemy

[lapis saddle]

You’re overestimating my brain.

[rapid pagoda]

💀 Really??

[woven peak]

Their attacks are very slow and telegraphed

And they take forever to turn and move around

[lapis saddle]

Tyrants aren’t threatening as long as you don’t forget to dodge them

[austere bronze]

Yes, tunnel vision is bad, it's by far also the most dangerous and common mistake by newer players

[austere bronze]

Ideally you'll dodge them naturally by moving around

[rapid pagoda]

I've only recently started to play DOOM Eternal seriously.

I've been playing casually for over a year or more now?

[lapis saddle]

Sure, but you can still run headlong into missiles if you forget to look for them

[austere bronze]

I think your eyes are quite capable of spotting a barrage of missiles in front of you

[austere bronze]

I've been playing for about a year, I don't think any of this time counts as "casual" however

[lapis saddle]

Sure, but you’re not always facing the direction the missiles are coming from. I’m not saying that dodging the tyrant missiles is hard by any means, just that it takes more effort than zero

[austere bronze]

If you're not facing the direction from which the missiles are coming from, you should be dodging them naturally by moving around

Movement is key

[storm eagle]

None of the things discussed in the last 20 minutes or so require much effort imo

[rapid pagoda]

You're saying that I've gotten significantly better???

[austere bronze]

What, I was just talking about myself lol

But I don't doubt you have

[storm eagle]

LOl I read that as "I doubt you have" 💀

[rapid pagoda]

Thanks.

I'm good at the game, it's just I have some things I need to clear up with my strategies.

And/or my knowledge of priority.

And to stay moving at all times.

[lapis saddle]

Yes movement helps with evasion, but it’s still easy to dodge right into projectiles you didn’t see before if you’re not paying attention to your surroundings

[austere bronze]

No, that's usually not how enemy AI works

But sure, it can happen

[lapis saddle]

The enemies don’t lead their shots much if at all, but they still take a bit of time getting across the arena

[austere bronze]

Sure! What exactly is it?

[rapid pagoda]

Like what specifically?

[austere bronze]

Yeah

Going through everything combat related is almost impossible

[rapid pagoda]

Well, I'm trying to beat Ultra nightmare, but I'm not sure right now what the best way to train is.

[austere bronze]

It would be 3 essays

Do all the missions on nightmare beforehand

[rapid pagoda]

My strategy is replaying the levels, memorizing enemy spawns, and making sure to master all combat encounters.

[austere bronze]

That's a good strategy

[rapid pagoda]

Even if I suck at Nightmare at some points? 😂
I die a lot to some random points.
Sometimes I get swarmed.
Other times I dash into a projectile because I couldn't see where to go.
Other times I get body blocked by an enemy I can't see and die.

It's a vicious cycle.

Other times I run out of the ammo needed to defeat the next enemy coming and end up dying due to lack of ammo.

[austere bronze]

If you get swarmed or blocked by enemies, the cause is 1 (or more) of 3 things: positioning, movement or tunnel vision

[rapid pagoda]

Movement is my biggest issue.

I freeze up sometimes to deal with 1 enemy and circle around them.

But I find if I just move around the arena and hit them when their in sight I'm okay.

[austere bronze]

You want to spread out ammo usage over all guns and chainsaw when on 40-60% ammo

If you could supply me with a gameplay clip I would be happy to help more in depth

[rapid pagoda]

I usually only use my ballista and super shotgun then chainsaw when half on one of them repeat.

I only switch to different weapons when I absolutely can't chainsaw, or an enemy like the cacodemon shows up and I use sticky bombs.

[rapid pagoda]

Ooo... I could try to do that, as best as I can! It'd have to be later though if that's okay I'm out and about right now.

[austere bronze]

That's perfect for me anyways as I can't go through a video right now lol

[rapid pagoda]

Alright great!

I got to go for now, I'll notify you later!

[visual steeple]

M1 is one of the worst players please consult @storm eagle for pro tips

[glass trellis]

That's not true M1 Is good player

[austere bronze]

livid is joking

[visual steeple]

M1 got some glazers eh?

he needs some haters to balance.

[austere bronze]

Except for the LM_612 part, LM has good advice

[austere bronze]

And i assume that is you

[visual steeple]

Me and lightningbreak both are your haters objectively.

and LM

and Saleem

[austere bronze]

Oh well, Platos said true friendship can only exist between equals

[visual steeple]

M1 keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.

[austere bronze]

I guess I'm just on another level🤷‍♂️

[visual steeple]

below

[storm eagle]

lol wut

[austere bronze]

above

Im just better

[storm eagle]

y'all are funny

[visual steeple]

in terms of casual

[fringe torrent]

Only one way to resolve it; fight to the death with rocks

[austere bronze]

In terms of everything good

I am simply better than you

[visual steeple]

Best way to solve is svs with no guns, blood punch only.

[visual steeple]

objectively false.

[fringe torrent]

How do you want to get BPs without guns

[austere bronze]

Flame belch enemies and use the armor to charge your BPs

[visual steeple]

punch zombies to get them to glory kill 😈

[fringe torrent]

Good luck then

[austere bronze]

I thought you were going to back me up😔

[fringe torrent]

I know nothing about this debate

[austere bronze]

Saleem is my bff, that's why I never talk to him

[visual steeple]

This aint no debate I simply have a vendetta against m1 for existing

[fringe torrent]

[austere bronze]

You know me, you know I'm simply better

[austere bronze]

Is that why you're always in chat when I'm here? To keep me closer

[visual steeple]

Precisely 😈

[austere bronze]

No, I think you're just addicted to me

[strange gale]

world class hating ⭐

[visual steeple]

yea bro addicted to hating on u

[austere bronze]

I think you just want to take the chance to talk to me

[keen ore]

Batman and Joker vibes

Or possible closeted lovers?

[jolly kernel]

I like how 85% of the dlcs for Eternal are demon skins for a multiplayer mode that fucking nobody plays

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/216692479531941889/1294700508648444049/image.png?ex=670bf74f&is=670aa5cf&hm=baa7a7ac0152ea2f6b4d5469299d9eb88838a886be8899f8be514f6f48d376ea&

[serene kettle]

U sound mad about it

[regal walrus]

Tru

[slow sigil]

god bless FOMO! god bless batlepasses! god bless microtransactions!!!!!

[lapis saddle]

I have noticed that there’s no cosmetics for Dread Knight. Not that it particularly matters but I feel a little bad for him getting left out like that lol

Note: I’d be a lot more interested in demon cosmetics if you could apply the demon skins in campaign. Not letting us mow down hotdogcubus and Sgt Pain while going through Taras Nabad (or even Horde Mode) was a real missed opportunity and idk why that didn’t happen

[young mango]

The dreadknight has cosmetics they just weren’t part of any series events, they were unlocked by doing battlemode stuff

[lapis saddle]

Oh I see. That explains why I don’t have them lol

[stuck zinc]

just started doom acient gods part 1 and im sufffering from lack of skill

playing on ultra violence

[glass schooner]

why is there a speedrun skip called hentai 😭🙏

[stuck zinc]

i cant beat the slayer gate with the possessed merauder

[woven peak]

Don’t ballista combo it

All possessed enemies have hefty plasma resistance

[young mango]

Because you go through tentacles with no collision on arc complex, which is just the second part of the convention hug skip, I am fairly sure they don’t officially refer to the skip as what you called it anymore because of GDQ or sumshit stuff needs to stay less vulgar, and since it’s just the second half to a skip I don’t even really think it’s referred to very much at all anymore

[stuck zinc]

UR LYING

bro i play on roller ballista combo is all i use

ballista super shotty

[woven peak]

Nope

Ballista and plasma rifle are both ineffective against them

It’s to make sure you don’t waste your plasma ammo on them

So you have enough to microwave them

[glass ridge]

I'm thinking of doing my first Ultra nightmare run on doom eternal what tips can I get

[austere bronze]

You'It isn't too bad, the only demons that take less damage to the ballista when possessed are dread knights, hell knights, arachnotrons and whiplashes

No demon takes altered damage from the plasma rifle or its mods when possessed

I would however recommend you to extend your quick switching capabilites to the level where you no longer only rely on ballista+ssg

[azure oriole]

Microwave beam can still stun any possessed enemy (obviously barring marauders), allowing the plasma rifle to be legitimately useful

[azure oriole]

don't die lmao

[storm eagle]

Go to bed lol

[woven peak]

That true

Only way to stop possessed demons

[young mango]

It’s also slightly funny that the beams AOE falters possessed enemies as well

[stuck zinc]

combos and move around

nah but acient gods is crazy even as a ultra violence player on roller idk how to get past this level

[stuck zinc]

hmmmmm

bros telling me to get gud

[young mango]

not as ineffective as you’re making it sound, for the most part they’re just effective as most other weapons on possessed enemies, possessed enemies will often have a frequently reoccurring resistance percentage across multiple weapons, with plasma weapons not really deviating from that

[crisp island]

Finally decided to try out Nightmare lol, I really wanna get good enough to get the UN exclusive skins. First level down, time for a long, bumpy ride...😭

[young mango]

as for possessed marauders in specific, ballista is probably one of the more reliable options in that fight, it is enough to hit his greenlight and it’s hitscan, because of his wacky resistances ssg ballista is an unironically decent combo against them if somebody isn’t versed in weapon tech

[azure oriole]

jokes aside there is no concrete answer

what's the purpose of empowered demons anyway? i don't see any purpose other than a small gimmick

[young mango]

remember when empowered demons actually dropped useful stuff as a reward instead of slapping you on the face with the equivalent of an explosive barrel

[woven peak]

Really hate how they’re falter resistant

Freeze resistant is fine because Ice bomb is ridiculously good

But all falters is too much

[austere bronze]

Why?

And I would say the ice grenade is one of the more balanced things in this game

[lapis saddle]

I’ve been having a game crash replaying Taras Nabad on the elevator after the medallion. Is this a known problem and if so what do I do about it?

I’m on Switch rn in case that matters

[lilac sparrow]

Can anyone help me with the platinum im on the battle mode trophies

[azure oriole]

I just recently bough doom eternal

can any give me tips for improving it

[vagrant shadow]

Every weapon has its purpose. The shotgun grenade can be shot int to the meatball demon, and after it explodes you can just gory kill it. Another example is shooting The shield demons shield with the plasma rifle will explode it.

[fervent karma]

Hello can someone help me get the online trophy’s on PlayStation. Please send me dm

[safe viper]

I headshot a blood maykr so quickly that my game crashed bruh

[azure oriole]

thank you @vagrant shadow

btw can eternal be played in multiplayer mode?

also is the campaign mode story based?

[vagrant shadow]

Do you mean battle mode?

[vagrant shadow]

Yes...

[azure oriole]

oh that's multiplayer?

[vagrant shadow]

50/50 it's not beginner friendly for slayer

[azure oriole]

I see

lemme hone my skills in horde mode then 🙂

[vagrant shadow]

Bet the game on ultra nightmare first

[azure oriole]

ah yes

all max settings

[vagrant shadow]

Yes

[azure oriole]

is that a problem?

[vagrant shadow]

The dread Knight can solo 1v1 ez vs a new slayer

[vagrant shadow]

?

[austere bronze]

Yes, stop trolling on discord

[austere bronze]

That's in no way required for battlemode

Either you'll be facing an extremely new player or a battlemode veteran

[vagrant shadow]

And you only need 200 kills......

[austere bronze]

?

[vagrant shadow]

The bloodbath achievement

[austere bronze]

yes, i know, why did you mention it?

[vagrant shadow]

cuz its the only reason to play battle mode

[austere bronze]

some people have fun with it

[vagrant shadow]

On a side note what do you play on?

[austere bronze]

PC

[vagrant shadow]

Ok, what do you use to switch weapons?

[austere bronze]

i use custom binds

[vagrant shadow]

Do you use the mouse with the num pad on the side?>

[austere bronze]

i have a mouse with side buttons, but i dont use them

[vagrant shadow]

That mouse looks very helpful for doom

[austere bronze]

you dont really need side buttons

but it can make your life easier

[vagrant shadow]

I dash and melee with my side buttons

[austere bronze]

thats fair

[azure oriole]

why will I troll? I just asked about it cause I'm new. didn't meant to troll

[loud valley]

anyone need doom eternal? for windows 10/11 its for microsoft store
W3XJC-RHRX3-WF6R7-KDFP3-VTJMZ

got from prime gaminh

[jolly kernel]

what do you guys think of the ''can only be damaged when using a strong attack that is identified by a sound'' type of enemies?

i.e Marauders and Blood Maykrs

[midnight sparrow]

It’s fun. Though Marauders whole gimmick got overused so badly imo

[slow sigil]

depends on the execution

[midnight sparrow]

Blood Maykrs mix it up and make it fun

[slow sigil]

marauders are too much sitting around and waiting because they synergize poorly with the rest of the encounter
bmaykers are awesome because they actually work within arenas

[lapis saddle]

Oh yeah I greatly prefer Blood Makyrs. They fit far more into the combat flow

[visual steeple]

Wrong.

[slow sigil]

ok, intrigue me

[visual steeple]

There is no sitting around with marauders.

[slow sigil]

what do you do whilsts waiting for the marauder to attack

[visual steeple]

Restack

[slow sigil]

that's boring af

[visual steeple]

lmao L take

[slow sigil]

do you have genuine fun just lighting fodder on fire and tapping them once or twice to GK them?

[visual steeple]

No I use flaming meathook and pb to get my armor back quick

If there is a large amount of fodder I use flame belch

[slow sigil]

doesn't change the fact the deed of just farming fodder is boring

[visual steeple]

Crazy how that mechanic is also very important to doom eternal,

[slow sigil]

ok, and?

[visual steeple]

You might as well say doom eternal is boring.

[slow sigil]

the game luckily is a lot more then just marauder killing and farming fodder, there's also actual arenas

[visual steeple]

Combat encounters heavily require restacking

[slow sigil]

whilst you are actually dealing with an arena full, you aren't really with the marauder

[visual steeple]

You can still deal with the marauder even when he isn’t doing the green flash attack.

Grenades, stick bombs, remote det rockets.

[slow sigil]

usually you just easily ignore the marauder whilst dealing with the rest of the arena because other demons being in the arena screws up the marauder's behavior

[visual steeple]

Example of enemy prioritization another crucial part of doom eternal.

[slow sigil]

if you have to ignore the main mechanic of the marauder to have a better time, it's poorly designed

[lapis saddle]

Also the marauder’s gimmick and how he’s framed feel a bit at odds with one another. His opening cutscene, appearances in trailers, even his visual design imply that he’s supposed to be a kind of “rival” enemy, but then he’s a game of wait-and-punish. I wish they’d had the guts to make him fight like an enemy player (ie ditch the shield and have him use movement and attacks similar to yours). The marauder as a game concept is fine I guess but doesn’t live up to the hype his design and intro inspire

[slow sigil]

...which you can far better accomplish with other design principles then "ignore then have a boring repeat you already had multiple times"

like with the archvile and the bloodmakyr

[visual steeple]

Ignore then have a boring repeat you already had multiple times?

[slow sigil]

yes? the marauder isn't really exciting at all

it's mostly just waiting to bait it's ai to attack you and then doing a combo you do during more intensive moments

[visual steeple]

I’m asking for an explanation on the design not your opinions

[lapis saddle]

The marauder fight itself is the same every time, and he doesn’t meaningfully factor into the rest of the fight because you can avoid him quite easily (and you’re heavily encouraged to do so)

[visual steeple]

Isn’t every fight the same every time? It’s an arena shooter we are playing.

[unkempt zenith]

hi

[lapis saddle]

Different combinations of enemies have you use different tactics. That’s kind of the point of having different enemies. The marauder just doesn’t synergize with the rest of the arena at all

[visual steeple]

Wassup

[visual steeple]

It’s bad cuz it’s different is what you explained to me

All enemies require different tactics you could say even

At least heavy+

[slow sigil]

it's design and bugs made official beckon you to first clear the rest of the arena whilst ignoring the maruader, making it just a number towards the demon spawn cap and nothing more (as basic running dodges him.)

Then, once you have cleared the arena of every other dynamic part of the game you just stand still a bit far away from the marauder, where he will run at you and green eye. after the wait you shoot and do a combo, back up, and do the same thing again (unless you get bad rng and have to wait longer.)

[unkempt zenith]

I just beat the wave mode or what ever it's called

[visual steeple]

Horde mode? Nice

[unkempt zenith]

Im so shaking right now

I got the Slayer rank first try

[austere bronze]

And they rely even more on shooting your guns, but purely that is boring

[unkempt zenith]

what is your favorite boss in DOOM Eternal and it's DLCs

[austere bronze]

Samur

[slow sigil]

doom hunters and then samur

[austere bronze]

Oh true

[lapis saddle]

Btw this is something known as a “strawman argument”, and you’ve used it a few times in the past several minutes. If you’re not going to discuss in good faith, then I don’t care to engage further

[unkempt zenith]

mine are icon of sin & the dark lord

[slow sigil]

they actually utilize the fact eternal is an arena shooter and don't attempt a 1v1 boss
IoS is third because they skim the line somewhat and their individual attacks are atleast something
every other boss just attempt to be something unsupported by the game really. Khan makyr is a nobody, gladiator is ok but could have done better with an arena, and davoth is just genuine garbage

[austere bronze]

I prefer the gladiator to the IoS, but other than thag I totally agree

[visual steeple]

You’ve yet to explain how it does not synergize.

[lapis saddle]

I think it’d be real cool if the Gladiator had returned as a regular enemy. He’s pretty fun

[slow sigil]

gladiator's biggest sin is "durr circular arena" but there is ig the jump rope section which kinda "uses" it

[austere bronze]

He'd need to be changed a lot

[slow sigil]

meanwhile, davoth's smallest sin is circular arena

[lapis saddle]

Specifically the phase 1 version since that one is a lot more compatible with the general game flow

[austere bronze]

Pretty much making him into another enemy at that point

[slow sigil]

Demons shooting him triggers his shield which can cancel his animations (including green eyes.)

If you're moving the marauder's ai can freak out a bit and just... randomly attack the air? Slowing it down.

Generally for the marauder stun you need to "stick" a bit more in it which is fairly bad in arenas

Meanwhile, it is extremely easy to just ignore him as part of the arena and practically remove him from the equation, which is unsynergistic.

[unkempt zenith]

what is the best Doom Slayer in your opinion?

[strange gale]

running around and cleaning up an arena while a marauder's there isn't meaningfully different from cleaning up an arena without a marauder; de movement is so busted that you don't really have to react to him in the former instance and so he might as well not exist

[austere bronze]

Which is why we need 3 marauders in every arena!

[slow sigil]

more and bigger = better

[unkempt zenith]

my gonna head out now cya

[lapis saddle]

I don’t even hate the Marauder: I just think his design was a massive missed opportunity to give you a truly spooky enemy (like imagine if he had movement like yours, multiple weapons, and was smart enough to dodge projectiles outside point blank range)

To be clear I mean those things instead of the shield gimmick, not on top of it

[slow sigil]

ofc it should be ontop of the shield gimmick, just look at the chaingun shield!!!

[strange gale]

make his shield 360 degrees so sky strike no longer works

[visual steeple]

First one is enemy prioritization intended mechanic of doom eternal
Second is a bug I’m assuming not an intended mechanic
Third no clue what you mean by stick
Last one is enemy prioritization intended mechanic of doom eternal

[slow sigil]

we know the marauder is designed by ID software, noone is arguing ID didn't intend for the marauder to be added to the game

[visual steeple]

What I meant it matches with the game philosophy

[tidal nymph]

I’d rather just not play the game

[slow sigil]

yeah, but does that automatically mean it is a good addition to the game?

after all, you can achieve enemy prioritization in more ways then just "act as if the enemy isn't even part of the combined arena untill it's the only one left"

which, because you are ignoring them, means it's not really synergy as they aren't really part of the combat, only after

this is not like a shielded off archvile where you have to play around their flames and their summons. No you are acting as if they are literally less there then a zombie

[tidal nymph]

As far as I’m aware sky strike is the only way to fight the marauder with player agency. No waiting.

The player can force the blood maykr to attack them as well. Getting in melee range and dashing out as well as being at certain angles forced them to attack you

[visual steeple]

Yes. If it follows the game philosophy it should be included.

I haven’t heard of an enemy following the game design philosophy of a game and is bad.

[strange gale]

responding to the 4th point: being able to ignore a superheavy is poopoo dogshit game design; especially so if intended

i can't name a single encounter that doesn't exclusively consist of marauders where you'd actually want to prioritize said enemy

[visual steeple]

You’d say the same about the tyrant? It’s almost always recommended to do chip damage towards it instead of actively seeking to damage it.

[strange gale]

i would, yes

[slow sigil]

ok so, hyperbole time, would you say that it would be a good addition to the game if there was an enemy that instantly killed you, no matter where in the arena you are, if you didn't find it in the first 3 seconds of the arena.

After all, it is about enemy prioritization and speed

[strange gale]

many of the enemies in this game aren't very dynamic, ie they're kinda boring (though that might just be due to how easy it is to aircamp)

[visual steeple]

Sounds like the cursed prowler to me.

[lapis saddle]

I think an enemy akin to Jacob in Dusk or V2 in Ultrakill (or evil Doomguy in various classic Doom mods like Scythe 2) would be really interesting, especially if he was balanced around being included with other enemies but was otherwise as close to a mirror match as reasonably possible. An enemy that hits hard and is as mobile and nearly as versatile as your own character would be pretty spooky and really interesting (though you’d definitely need to fiddle with him to make him relevant without being blatantly unfair)

[visual steeple]

(Which I cannot defend)

[slow sigil]

why not??? it's about enemy prioritization right??? surely it's good

[visual steeple]

There is objectively bad game design in that enemy.

[slow sigil]

but why

[visual steeple]

Instant killing is bad and having only 3 seconds to kill is bad.

[slow sigil]

so, there are ways to have features adhere to the core principles of the game and still be bad?

because of "bad" game design?

[visual steeple]

Bruh. If you can say something that is objectively bad game design to the extent of an instant killing demon, without it being a bug please.

[storm eagle]

[slow sigil]

like having to wait around in a fast paced action game, or straight up not thinking about a demon in a game about a bunch of demons you all have to fight at the same time

[visual steeple]

About the marauder

The enemy itself is bad in the scenario you given me.

[slow sigil]

1. Do you know what a hyperbole is
2. Do you know what an analogy is

[tidal nymph]

The game’s dynamic in the sense of the enemy you can ignore depends on the arena. In a big open area sure, the marauder is generally easy to ignore.

In a tight room he can often be a nightmare.

The game is like that with many of its enemies

In a big air space the pain element is probably the most threatening demon in the game

[visual steeple]

The hyperbolic answer is to the point of introducing more objectively terrible mechanics to the enemy your enemy is not applicable in this scenario.

[slow sigil]

in a tight room there also generally is less space for other demons, meaning ignoring it is easier to get the rest gone aswell

[storm eagle]

You're a threatening demon in the game

[slow sigil]

does it show that something that adheres to the game's philosophies can still be bad? yes or no

[visual steeple]

It shows that enemies with objectively bad game design will still be bad even if it adheres to it sure.

But the marauder does not have objectively bad game design.

[slow sigil]

so something can be vaguely about the game's philosophy and still not actually be great

[austere bronze]

I heard what happend in '87, I agree

[tidal nymph]

Ignoring the marauder in these type of encounters tend not to be feasible at all. That’s just incorrect.

If you played the unbalanced randomizer in arc complex you better believe you need to focus on the marauder in the tiny hallway

[slow sigil]

like how the marauder can be vaguely about "enemy priotization" but the way that happens can be poorly implemented

[storm eagle]

lol

[tidal nymph]

I’m not that old yet 😂

[slow sigil]

i don't get it

[storm eagle]

shut it

[austere bronze]

Im just making stuff up about lightningbreak, there quite literally is nothing to get lol

[austere bronze]

I dont agree

[tidal nymph]

😱

[austere bronze]

Drama deluxe

[tidal nymph]

I was 97 not 87 😂

[storm eagle]

Anyway, I say people can fight or not fight the marauder and other enemies however they choose.

Like who cares really

[austere bronze]

Someone needs to help me mod the game so I can remove him

[storm eagle]

Killai is friend

[austere bronze]

Killai is for everything though😭

[storm eagle]

Yeah there's that

[tidal nymph]

Just get saleem to help lol

[storm eagle]

@jovial coral Salam, what do you think about a mod to get rid of Marauders lol

[austere bronze]

Salami, pls halp

[jovial coral]

like remove them from the base campagin and dlc's ??

I think there no way you can remove the marauders file for the game because that will cause the game to crash, because In the encounter manager when the cmd happen ENCOUNTER_SPAWN_MARAUDER that will crash the game because it can't find the marauder files, If you want to remove the marauders from any encounter you need to modify the entities file, in encounter manager and change the cmd to spawn something else

[balmy rain]

Hello, I have 55/60 BFG ammo on a game save file (campaign), so it's also 55/60 in Master Levels. How to get ammo without having to complete the campaign level?

If you don't have to finish the level, what is the fastest way of getting the BFG ammo?

I tested Ripatorium, it doesn't give you BFG ammo

[violet zealot]

I think turning on infinite ammo would quickly replenish your ammo types

[balmy rain]

It doesn't, sadly. Will test it another time just to make sure though.

[tidal nymph]

thank you salami mommy 🙏

[wraith coral]

i got doom eternal

[glossy warren]

Thats sick brother

You play any doom before?

[cold wave]

I am a trogladite

[wraith coral]

meh

[formal flower]

i need help getting all multiplayer achievemnts on steam
doom eternal

[opaque dune]

Hey! So I got the code for this game! But I put it on my Microsoft account now its not letting me find in on my Xbox account? Any tips to fix it?

[robust apex]

idk

i got it from prime gaming today

for me it worked perfect

[fringe torrent]

Where are you looking for it?

[opaque dune]

Xbox acount and my games

[fringe torrent]

Yeah but are you looking for it on console or PC

[opaque dune]

Um pc

[fringe torrent]

No idea then

[azure oriole]

You might have to buy it on steam or something i dont know honestly

[robust apex]

you can get it for free now on prime gaming

thats how i got eternal lol

[azure oriole]

Oh damn

Lol im just laying in bed listening to doom music

[robust apex]

nicee, Im sitting here, watching random vids and chatting

[azure oriole]

W mans bro the beat drop on tottfiy is banger

The only thing they fear is you

[robust apex]

real

[azure oriole]

And bfg division is so good man

Pov summpning a demon at 3 am, doom music in the back ground

[robust apex]

xD

Most Normal guy night activity

[azure oriole]

Fr

Meanwhile most girls not liking the music because its too violent

[robust apex]

too real

[azure oriole]

And john cena dancing to doom ost e1m1

I mean its a banger

[midnight yacht]

Good evening.

[midnight yacht]

What?

[azure oriole]

Bruh aint no way

[midnight yacht]

?

[azure oriole]

Most girls are soft af and cant handle the heavy metal shit

[midnight yacht]

Is this like a bit or...?

[azure oriole]

It was a joke

[midnight yacht]

Well, that was a weird joke.

[azure oriole]

This was weird? Where tf you at

[pseudo thistle]

Casual sexism, love to see it

[azure oriole]

Its a joke!

[robust apex]

real

[pseudo thistle]

unfortunately sexism just like isn’t funny?

[midnight yacht]

The joke is just kinda saying something sexist, I don't find any humor in that personally.

[azure oriole]

Didnt mean for it to be sexist but if you cant handle a harmless joke then idk

[midnight yacht]

What is the joke if not just making a sexist remark? Genuinely curious because maybe I just don't get it.

[pseudo thistle]

the joke is that women are soft and don’t like MANLY things like DOOM and HEAVY MUSIC

[robust apex]

Why are yall fighting over a damn joke instead of just saying "I dont find it funny" 😭 🙏

[azure oriole]

Never specified it wad manly

[robust apex]

no need for a war to break out

[azure oriole]

Lots of girls play doom

[dull dagger]

jsut got eternal on pc, but had it on switch first. does anybody know if i sign in my Bethesda acc all cosmetics transfer to pc?

[pseudo thistle]

well I’m also joking around

[azure oriole]

Didnt seem like a joke

[robust apex]

idk, sry mate

[pseudo thistle]

and yours didn’t either

[young mango]

sexism is making this sound as if it’s actually serious and not just grade school rivalry akin to Jupiter stupider stuff

[dull dagger]

its fine, guess i'll jsut download to find out

[azure oriole]

Dud my joke seem like more of a joke than drios joke?

[robust apex]

yea, good luck

[robust apex]

idk and dont care tbh

just check my opinion (scroll up a bit)

[pseudo thistle]

it really doesn’t matter lol

[midnight yacht]

They don't, cosmetics are device specific.

[azure oriole]

Damn how old is the doom franchise

[midnight yacht]

So if boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider, and girls go to college to get more knowledge, where do non-binaries go?

[robust apex]

like i said, no need for hell on earth in here, just say you dont like the joke, or like it, DONE!

my god yall are like 4th graders

[azure oriole]

Again how old is the doom franchise

[robust apex]

AND IM SAYING THAT! I SOMETIMES STILL FEEL LIKE 13!

even tho im not

[pseudo thistle]

hey man chill out

[azure oriole]

Hes just making a point

[robust apex]

I am chill, dw

[robust apex]

finally

[young mango]

stereotypically? probably into a cramped apartment that’s 2000 dollars a month in New York

[pseudo thistle]

good I really didn’t mean for this to become a thing

I just wanted to poke a bit of fun

[robust apex]

so stop crying around, it aint the worst or most racist/sexist joke of all time

[pseudo thistle]

was just trying to poke a bit of fun

[azure oriole]

I dont like being poked like dat

[midnight yacht]

A beautiful price for 100 square-feet.

[robust apex]

no need to flame
idk

[pseudo thistle]

to the mines where we all yearn to return

[pseudo thistle]

eh well sorry ig

[azure oriole]

Also aint doomguy 1200 pounds

[robust apex]

idk

[pseudo thistle]

that can’t be right

[violet zealot]

30 or so years if nobody else has answered you yet

[azure oriole]

Like realisticly how big is that mf

[pseudo thistle]

Oh yeah almost 31 years

[robust apex]

dang

[midnight yacht]

100% true, there's a reason Minecraft is the best selling video game of all time.

[azure oriole]

Where do the furries go

[robust apex]

?

[pseudo thistle]

wherever I damn well please :3333

[robust apex]

sleep

im tired af

thats where we go

:3

[azure oriole]

Lol

[pseudo thistle]

colon three

[robust apex]

Mannnnn, Im tired af but my brain aint letting me sleep

TwT

[azure oriole]

Knock yourself out

[midnight yacht]

I don't know, but based on fursuit prices, they go wherever rich people go.

[robust apex]

too real

[robust apex]

ughhhh, howww

[azure oriole]

And where do the beautiful black people go

[young mango]

astrology classes probably

[robust apex]

Im also very sensitive, so idk

[azure oriole]

Ayo

[robust apex]

?

[midnight yacht]

Being on a device is the exact opposite of falling asleep, start there.

[azure oriole]

Nothin

[robust apex]

I am right now xD

[pseudo thistle]

where did that come from whar

[young mango]

They’re smart as shit

[robust apex]

real

[young mango]

I think I meant astronomy

[robust apex]

smart boyos

[pseudo thistle]

oh lol

[azure oriole]

Who here has met a brain rotted kid

[pseudo thistle]

lev….

[azure oriole]

Because my cousin is done for

[robust apex]

I think we all have at one point or another.

[midnight yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-ben-kenobi-of-course-i-know-them-theyre-me-gif-25185969

[robust apex]

Sorry for your loss

[pseudo thistle]

also real

[robust apex]

xD

[azure oriole]

No diddy

[robust apex]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-oh-well-diddy-shrug-deal-with-it-shrugs-gif-97775874789584377

[young mango]

My brain was rotted when I decided to play doom eternal for the first time

[midnight yacht]

Don't.

[robust apex]

My brain was GONE from the start

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-what-what-the-sigma-sigma-the-gif-14652784622915837383

[robust apex]

Im a dumbass

[midnight yacht]

I'm*

[azure oriole]

I got a 2.5 gpa

[robust apex]

And a paranoid idiot, whom nobody loves xD

[robust apex]

yea, thanks

[azure oriole]

You're a paranoid idiot

[young mango]

86 days worth of playtime

[robust apex]

yep, check my profile xD

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/red-panda-fight-cuddle-playing-gif-21455407

[robust apex]

https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-gif-27048745

[azure oriole]

Doom on a demon be like

[robust apex]

WooD

[azure oriole]

Bruh this baddie aint letting me hit

[robust apex]

RIP

My Bloodline is gonna end with me fr :3

[azure oriole]

She a 10 outa 10 cuz

With a big ahh

[robust apex]

:3

[azure oriole]

Oop nvm she letting me hit

[robust apex]

good ending, ig?

[azure oriole]

Yup

[robust apex]

yippeee

[midnight yacht]

...So anyways @young mango hows the speedrunning been?

[robust apex]

Meine Mama hat mir einfach erlaubt das ich Cola trinken darf! Wie Cool ist das bitte? Jetzt zock ich Fortine und trink Cola. Yippee!

My Mom just allowed me to drink Cola! How Cool is that? Now Im playing Fortnite and drinking Cola. Yippee!

[young mango]

It’s been good, set a new TAG2 pb yesterday

[robust apex]

siwwy wittwe me :3

XD

[midnight yacht]

Nice, haven't you also started branching to other categories also?

[azure oriole]

Yoooo

Cats 4 life

[robust apex]

Anyways, brothers. I think I should head to bed, its late (3 am lol)

[robust apex]

see yall tmrw, love yall

[young mango]

Never really put in the time and effort to get to equivalent levels of proficiency in those other categories but I have branched out a bit yes, a recent one that wasn’t TAG2 being the campaign

[midnight yacht]

How much of your TAG2 skills transfer to the campaign? Can you get an at least somewhat good time or is it completely different?

[young mango]

I would say 1:20:01 was a decent campaign pb, making me about 50% slower than the world record, although with the addition of my lacking of serious routing there could also be the factor of the campaign having had a lot more competition where the community collectively cultivated very optimal strats as opposed to TAG2, which had a sizeable amount of its routing done by just a handful of people and never having had any time where people were competing with each other, so innovation was never incentivized either. If we were to take that 50% as a 1:1 deal, a similar amount of effort in routing would result in a 24 minute TAG2 run, which doesn’t sound right to me

[stoic ore]

Just got back into playing doom eternal. i fucking love that game dude.

[verbal hound]

yoo i finally got the crucible

[azure oriole]

Hell yeah, fam!

[azure oriole]

Awesome! How are you liking the Crucible?

[white swift]

yo

tf am I reading at doom server

[rapid pagoda]

Hey, @austere bronze @woven peak I remember you guys said that if I shoot the shield, the Maurder will spawn the wolf, but the orange wolf will just spawn, all the time, non-stop, regardless of whether or not I shoot the shield or not. Am I missing something?

[lapis saddle]

It also triggers if another demon hits the shield

[woven peak]

Enemy projectiles can also make him spawn it

[rapid pagoda]

He spawn all the time... 😭

[woven peak]

What are the other enemies in the arena

[rapid pagoda]

If he didn't have the stupid orange wolf, I could actually beat him easily.

[lapis saddle]

Is this the one at the start of Taras Nabad by any chance?

[rapid pagoda]

No this is just routine combat practice using the arenas in final sin.

[woven peak]

Theres imps and cyber zombies in that one right

Who shoot a lot of projectiles

Lots of projectiles = lots of ones hitting him

[rapid pagoda]

It's the arena that exists after you climb up a long vertical, pick up an argent enemy.
Then you are met with a cacodemon, a revenant beating up a hell solider, and an arachnotron on the other side of the arena fighting some zombies.

[lapis saddle]

No imps at Taras Nabad start. Final Sin tends to summon a bunch of other demons in the fights with marauders

[rapid pagoda]

Argent energy*

[woven peak]

He said icon of sin arenas

Theres only 1 marauder in icon of sin level

[rapid pagoda]

I usually throw myself into random arenas to train myself to get better at the combat, forcing myself to employ different strategies, move more, force myself to exhaust all resources, save chainsaws for bigger enemies.

[lapis saddle]

Wait like the Icon boss fight specifically?

[rapid pagoda]

No, not in the icon fight, the arena's leading up to it.

[rapid pagoda]

You know what I'm talking about.

[woven peak]

Yeah that arena has imps and cyber zombies right

[rapid pagoda]

It's hell right now. :(

Yes, I think so.

Let me check really quickly.

[lapis saddle]

Okay. I remember one being around a bunch of mechazombies, and they’re some of the main culprits for setting off dogs

[woven peak]

Yeah those enemies make him spawn the dog easily

Just kill as many as you can before they respawn before taking care of the marauder

[rapid pagoda]

They're are lots of hell soliders, and the one with the blast cannons and has those sharp claws for fingers? They don't have a codex entry.

[rapid pagoda]

So I have to eliminate the ones that are provoking him.

Would it be possible to stay airborne for that arena until they're dead and then manage?

Like shoot from above then come down once they're all gone.

Since the Marauder from what I've found doesn't really do well with fast moving airborne slayer.

[glossy warren]

Those are mechazombies

[rapid pagoda]

Thanks. :)

[woven peak]

Mecha zombies definitely have a codex entry

[lapis saddle]

What I do is run laps around the arena and kill zombies as I come to them

[rapid pagoda]

I can't find it.

I have all the codex's too.

[woven peak]

Whenever im in arenas with cyber zombies and marauder i just let them proc his shield

[rapid pagoda]

I might be looking in the wrong place?

[woven peak]

The dog aint too hard to kill

Like the one in SGN ML

With the fog

[rapid pagoda]

It's the fact I'm getting overwhelmed by him, the dog, and the other demons.
Trying to also kill the other demons while I have the mutt chasing me all throughout the arena is annoying as well cause I shoot him, he just comes right back.

I guess I'm just going to have to practice getting rid of him and managing the others at the same time.

[woven peak]

If youre overwhelmed by fodders and the dog just just like sticky bombs

That usually takes care of all of them for me

Also cyber zombies instantly go into glory kill from a body shot precision bolt

[rapid pagoda]

Ohhhhhhhhh smart!!
I'll keep that in mind.

I'm gonna go try it again, thanks for letting me know Creep. 👍

[austere bronze]

Try some randomizer mod if you're on PC then

[rapid pagoda]

There's a mod for that?

[austere bronze]

Yes

[rapid pagoda]

Can you link me to it?

[austere bronze]

If you're on the mod beta preview thing you can just search the word "randomizer"

Balanced is easier, unbalanced is harder

[rapid pagoda]

I see.

Alright! I'll look at that right now.

[rapid pagoda]

Thanks M1.

[austere bronze]

No problem

[austere bronze]

Are you going to send a gameplay clip?

And I personally love randomizers

[rapid pagoda]

Not right now, I'm too tired from studying. 😮‍💨

Also, I can't find the mod. :(

[austere bronze]

It's so much fun you can have in different levels and arenas

[rapid pagoda]

I'm looking it up and I'm getting no results.

[austere bronze]

I'll hop on and link it or aomething then

[rapid pagoda]

Is there a possible way to find a mod that allows me to customize a combat encounter?

Like if I want to 1v1 a maurader.

Or if I wanted to fight 50 imps.

[austere bronze]

There unfortunately isn't any mod that allows you to do that, but if you are on the mod preview and go into the console and type "spawn ai/superheavy/tyrant" you can spawn a tyrant
And if it's and imp just do "spawn ai/fodder/imp"

This concept applies to all demons

[rapid pagoda]

Can I specify the number?

Is it possible to do it without the mod preview, like can you just do it with the normal game. :(

[austere bronze]

No,not in any way I know of at least

search proteh instead and you should get a list of the randomizers

[austere bronze]

No

[rapid pagoda]

I see.

[austere bronze]

Or you can spawn in enemies in another way, but then you have to be using the eternal mod injector

It achieves the same thing but for more work

[austere bronze]

It's very easy to set up

Right click doom eternal on steam, press properties, then betas and then select the mod preview beta

[rapid pagoda]

Well, whatever works, I'm honestly too tired to think about it all right now. 👀
But I'll definitely look at it in the morning.

I have.

[verbal hound]

its badass

i am confused on who placed the crucible into the big demon thingy when you first get it

[coral ivy]

It was the slayer himself

[verbal hound]

oh so he was just retreaving it?

he just left it there

[coral ivy]

Corrrrect

[verbal hound]

damn

bro really dont give af

[coral ivy]

Also correct

[coral ivy]

Once again, correct

[verbal hound]

how many golden stars do i get

[coral ivy]

I have no idea what you're talking about

[verbal hound]

like when teachers give u a gold star when u do something good

[coral ivy]

Oh, I never got those, I got paid in juice

But three correct answers, that warrants three stars

[verbal hound]

yippeeeeeee

wait a minute

im confused

what was the crucible looking thing from the end of 2016 then? @coral ivy

[lapis saddle]

A crucible

[verbal hound]

is it like they use the same material for the blade?

[coral ivy]

The demonic crucible

[coral ivy]

Yes

[verbal hound]

wow

i see

[coral ivy]

Just one's from hell and the other is like corrupted argenta tech

[verbal hound]

oh cool

[woven peak]

Im pretty sure the ones used by the night sentinels are powered by the wraiths rather than hell energy

Like the demonic crucible

[coral ivy]

Argenta as in the race

[elder cobalt]

My vengeance

ends now

[austere bronze]

Hello stsq

[elder cobalt]

yo

i havent played any doom game in like months

[fringe torrent]

Good, play Wolfenstein

[elder cobalt]

too lazy to reinstall

and drive is full

[uncut helm]

does someone know what happened i died on utra nightamre mode and then goed in to the slayer tutorial and the tutorial was in ultra nightmare aswell but thats bucoze i played it but all my save files were deleates and i 100 % beat ultra violence mode saved and can i bring them back

[verbal hound]

which one little brother.

[fringe torrent]

I've been here longer, you're the little brother

But to answer your question, it says so in the message

[verbal hound]

ive done the new order, the new colossus is shizzle

[fringe torrent]

Well, you haven't played Wolfenstein

[verbal hound]

nawr

im older brother, little brother.

ima fight you!!!!!

[verbal hound]

yuh uh

[fringe torrent]

You literally haven't lol

[uncut helm]

?

[verbal hound]

why is that

[fringe torrent]

I was talking about the game Wolfenstein, the one from 2009

Not the series

[verbal hound]

oh yeah that one too

it was pretty sick

particle cannon was too op fr

[fringe torrent]

A lot of the weapons were OP

[verbal hound]

nah i think particle cannon is the most op

[fringe torrent]

Never said it's not the most OP, just said others are too

[verbal hound]

guys

what are some easy ways to kill the archvile

[stray warren]

i beat tdl on ultra nightmare buuut what do i do now lol

[verbal hound]

hes always on my ass

[stray warren]

spam

rocket

and ss

[verbal hound]

i use ice bomb, rocket rocket and granade

is it good?

[stray warren]

i would say yeah, but are you swapping to other guns like shotgun and the sniper thing

[verbal hound]

i use rocket for the archvile

sometimes shotgun

[stray warren]

are you quickswapping?

[verbal hound]

between rocket and shotgun?

[azure oriole]

Ice Bomb, swap between the Super Shotgun and Ballista whilst firing a shot from both

[stray warren]

and other weapons?

[azure oriole]

Also use a Lock On burst from the rocket launcher or two

[verbal hound]

so ice, super shotty, ballista, super shotty, ballista, rocket lock on?

or maybe minus one super shotty, ballista?

[azure oriole]

Basically yeah

[verbal hound]

thank u

[azure oriole]

Yeah dude I'm on console so that's just the most consistent thing I can do, I'm not super good at quickswapping due to a lack of buttons

[stray warren]

is tdl the exact same on every diffuculty? like i beat him on im to young to die then i did ultranightmare i felft no change

[verbal hound]

im super bad at quick swapping

like i dont understand the mechanic (i think its my button placement)

[azure oriole]

TDL?

[stray warren]

is that the dark lord acronym?

[azure oriole]

ohhh

I haven't played the DLCs

[stray warren]

what did you think i ment?

[azure oriole]

I have no idea

[stray warren]

oh lol

[azure oriole]

I'm a bit dumb

[stray warren]

lol

[young mango]

asides from damage? he should actually be more tolerable on higher difficulties because he has more tokens for his greenlight stuff

[austere bronze]

Master levels and modded content
(horde mode and multiplayer if you want)

Without mods I would have way,way, way less hours in the game

[young mango]

I have spent a disappointing amount of time on the base game

[azure oriole]

how much

[young mango]

i wouldn’t know how to weed out the numbers from each other, but I’m not an overly avid modded content player, if I had to be generous, I’d say about 65% of my playtime is the unmodded game

[austere bronze]

I just woke up to being 42 minutes into "doom eternal ultra nightmare 100% anthology explained"

[azure oriole]

so real

[austere bronze]

That gives me a good estimate of my nap lenght I suppose

[young mango]

that’s insane stuff though, anthology anything is just like, it’s not even the difficulty it’s just the sheer mental endurance

[fringe torrent]

Wonder if such a run has been done for Wolfenstein

[azure oriole]

What does the anthology part mean

Like the lore of Eternal?

[young mango]

i think what is being referred to here is a challenge run done by raitro where he 100%’d 2016-TAG2

[stray warren]

idk how to get or use modded content

[azure oriole]

Oh

I should do that, sounds like fun

[stray warren]

i didnt notice the damage i just tried to not get hit

[austere bronze]

It was only eternal and its DLCs, but the video was from raitro yes

[young mango]

Oh yeah, i think I recall that one actually being submitted to a cat. extension leaderboard

[austere bronze]

Right click on doom eternal on steam, press properties, then betas and then select the mod preview beta

[fringe torrent]

I really like Raitro's 0% video, one of my favorites to go back to

[young mango]

I’m a bit gobsmacked by how the majority of category extensions exist just to have a single run submitted

[chrome bronze]

Just got DOOM Eternal, I think Marauder is my favorite fight so far

[plush parrot]

does anybody know the easiest way to kill a pinkie?

[azure oriole]

Shoot on its back

[plush parrot]

i keep trying that but i double jump and dash over but i get stuck on it and it hits me

[fringe torrent]

I just BP them

[plush parrot]

BP?

[austere bronze]

Blood punch it or shoot it in its tail I suppose

[young mango]

if you bait them into ramming towards you, then step out of the way, they will leave themselves exposed with a fairly lenient timeframe

[plush parrot]

ooh blood punbnch

[austere bronze]

Just wait till he's in arenas lol

[plush parrot]

okay thx

[fringe torrent]

This gave me a thought
Arena Eternal would be such a fucking good setpiece for Horde Mode

[young mango]

Pinky frontal damage resistance is diabolical

[young mango]

ranges around 11% for most weapons

[fringe torrent]

Well it does have armor there doesn't it

[young mango]

yes

[austere bronze]

90% damage reduction is kinda wild though

[fringe torrent]

Is it specified what type of armor it is

Could be some super advanced demon shit they glued on there

[jolly kernel]

do you guys ever use any of the generally underused weapon mods?

[young mango]

like splash can bypass but if you take 11% as a constant that isn't deviated from otherwise, that makes them have health pools about equivalent to a tyrants

[jolly kernel]

i.e both plasma rifle mods, full auto, micro missiles and remote detonation

[chrome bronze]

The god damned Doom Hunter is such a pain for no reason

[young mango]

for a game that does not do much in the way of other enemies to incentivize weakpoint prioritization, this seems like such an odd move for what is an enemy introduced in the 4th level and doesn't play that huge of a role in the combat loop

[austere bronze]

I am currently using remote det

[chrome bronze]

Give an example

Cuz all the mods are good in certian situations

[jolly kernel]

.

[austere bronze]

Both plasma rifle mods, full auto, mobile turret, micro missiles, arbalest and remote detonation

[jolly kernel]

Full Auto seems interesting

using it on severely wounded enemies to get shells when they die

[fringe torrent]

I generally switch mods for some weapons a lot so I have some of these down

[austere bronze]

I just want to clarify however that it's not because I find it good, it's because I just don't want to use lock-on

[jolly kernel]

man lock-on is so good

it destroys Whiplashes and Hell Knights and puts Dread Knights in a glory kill state

[austere bronze]

Not really

[jolly kernel]

I find it funny that aside from the Pinky, the only enemy that has a Spectre version is the Whiplash

it's like id made that on purpose because they are one of the most hated enemies

[fringe torrent]

They should've brought back the Spectre Caco as an easter egg

[woven peak]

Ice bomb blood punch

Doom hunter is kind of a joke

[chrome bronze]

Is that before or after shield goes down?

[woven peak]

Before

[azure oriole]

Either way

[woven peak]

Doom hunter sled takes bonus damage from blood punch

[chrome bronze]

Gotcha

Whats the worst boss in Eternal?

Main game

[austere bronze]

before
1 blood punch deals 1000 damage usually, 4000 to the doom hunter's sled
sled HP=5000
ice bomb bonus damage 25%, which means it'll take out the entire shield

[austere bronze]

main game? khan maykr
DLCs included? the dark lord

[young mango]

i concur with the dark lord

[chrome bronze]

So last boss

Alr, thats fair

[austere bronze]

such a shame i gotta put the khan that far down, but i just find the khan maykr to be kinda boring the the low HP

[azure oriole]

By "worst" did they mean difficulty or how fun

[austere bronze]

you shoot at it for a very short time and then just go in for a blood punch and repeat 6 times

[austere bronze]

i went by fun

[azure oriole]

Ah

Yeah no that's fair then (I can only say Khan Makyr idk about Dark Lord)

[chrome bronze]

Difficulty, the most fun boss at the point im at was the Marauder, cool entrance+unique fight+awsome glory kill

[austere bronze]

he isnt even a boss, hes a normal enemy

[chrome bronze]

Seriously? When you first meet him he acts like a boss

[fringe torrent]

Bosses turning into common enemies is a DOOM trope

[austere bronze]

yup, but he's just a common enemy with no changed done to him

[azure oriole]

Barons of Hell in Classic DOOM...

[austere bronze]

the doom hunter has heavily reduced HP

but the marauder is just the same

[fringe torrent]

Cyberdemons, most importantly

[chrome bronze]

Still a fun fight

[austere bronze]

i dont agree

or he's maybe fun like 1-3 times, but then he gets boring

[young mango]

unengaging, a bit repetitive, RNG, it’s not helped by the fact that the amount of greenlight enemies doubles inbetween the end of the campaign and his fight, serving to make it feel even more bland and unoriginal

[azure oriole]

^

Marauder is good design but meh execution for how you can fight him

[austere bronze]

his design is extremely good designed, but not in combat

[chrome bronze]

Only doom games I havent beat are Eternal and 2016, but I dont own 2016

[azure oriole]

Get 2016

[young mango]

a bit of a rude way of phrasing it, but the DLC enemy design sometimes feels akin to somebody telling a funny joke, getting people to laugh, and then telling it again not too long afterwards but getting diminishing returns from people’s reactions

[fringe torrent]

You always have really random but weirdly fitting comparisons

[austere bronze]

DLC enemies suck, yes

[coral ivy]

This is the most fitting description

[austere bronze]

That is what they were trying to do to some extent

Stone imp for example

I use remote det, and still don't use it on riot soliders lolol

Stickies

God where would I be without punch swap stickies

Nowhere. I would be homeless and jobless

I did not understand that, but it certainly sounds astonishing

[chrome bronze]

What do yall think is the best Glory Kill/Exectution

That one is pretty funny, I like the Doom Hunter one and the neck snaps

The fury executions are also good

[glossy warren]

Tyrant triple tap

[austere bronze]

Maybe slashing the whiplash

[austere bronze]

Will you die if i tap you 3 times

[glossy warren]

What do you mean by that

[austere bronze]

Tap you 3 times, what's there to mean

Just 3 taps

[glossy warren]

I will explode violently

[austere bronze]

Like quickly touch