#doom-eternal
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But a complicated and convoluted arena is kind of over the top when the combat is already so break-neck pace on it's own, don't you think?
yeah combat can get stale if it's just possessed demon cbt over and over but you can add so much variety to a level while keeping its content purely combat-oriented, if you're a competent level designer
unreclaimed earth is a great example of this
idk929 my goat
Honestly, yeah. Platforming isn’t needed but at the same time I don’t just want a series of arenas in succession
what's with the skull reacts? i'm saying i'd like platforming to be a little more than just pressing jump and dash with the right order and timing, cause that's what it is. or rather, it's way too lenient with said concepts
I agree. Just have lower difficulties tone down platforming for people who dislike it.
Some features from the Master levels should be in the base game. like falling stalactites, lasers, turrets
Yes agreed. Platforming? Sure, but not during combat or in arenas please.
The point of platforming is pacing. Making it harder ruins the pacing it’s that simple.
We’ve come full circle.
Which is why I am talking to a brick wall.
I think platforming shouldn't get in the way of gameplay. Make it harder, whatever, don't let it get in the way though.
He literally said “I wanna struggle on platforming”
Yeah and from my experience at least, that's not neccesarily what eternal is all about.
It’s doom. It should have light platforming. No bullshit trial and error a million times to get to the next encounter
Agreed.
His 3 levels are honestly so good
The platforming is fine in Eternal, making it more difficult does worsen the average player's experience and defeat the point of pacing tbh. There are modded levels if you want something more challenging, if there isn't something difficult enough, you can create your own levels now ^_^
hi @jovial coral
...doesn't all combat fit into the definition of "bullshit trial and error a million times to get to the next encounter"?
A few things I dislike with each level, but overrall great stuff, some of the best modded levels
besides, calling hard platforming "bullshit trial and error" is dishonest, if your movement is good then it really isn't either
Platforming is important in doom eternal, it make to think and also make you take break for little bit for fighting
You are comparing apples and oranges. How is platforming at all the same as combat.
Yeah that's the other point, right? There are modded levels for that, and if that's your preferred style of gameplay, then fine, but eternal wasn't really meant to be that.
You’re saying you want to struggle? Like bullshit trial and error.
fall = restart, die = restart. you try different things until you pass. trial and error isn't inherently bad.
Yeah no that works for combat encounters not platforming.
I think key-hunting is a much better tactic for pacing than platforming is.
In a doom game
Sure, if you want to look at it like that. But if you don't like the style of combat that a game offers, in a game all about the combat, then why play it?
Continue to defend your disregard for pacing in doom games. A fundamental part of game design.
They should plop that shitty maze from E1 in lol
do you have an explanation for this that isn't "it's doom"?
That one where you just need to go right to win
@tidal nymph loves platforming 👀
Levels don’t need platforming, but because idsoftware refuses to make non-linear levels like Foundry or SGN, they resort to platforming to break up combat
I love minecraft
Yeah which they did a good job for doing that
@jovial coral acknowledge me salam
lol
real
why put combat in a game? probably because you want it to be fun, or fun and challenging. doom eternal's goal with combat seems to be the latter. why not extend that to platforming as well? what about platforming in a first person shooter format makes it, in your mind, inherently incompatible with elevated difficulty?
and if it has to be easy for the sake of pacing, or in other words require no trial and error, why not make it optional?
Ikr, minecraft is such an awesome game
Doom 2016 is great game, but people won't move on, they gonna complain anyway, either if they make eternal like 2016 or not they will still complain
Because platforming is a secondary mechanic made to complement combat. Doom isn’t a platformer, so platforming doesn’t need the same depth as combat
I made a new survival world and enjoy just taking the game more slowly
No.
You can play it in so many ways which is so fun
I wish Minecraft stayed how it was before beta 1.8
Invalid opinion, you havent done tormented earth on UN in a blind run
You can just play the old versions
... just play the old version
Yeah I done it and with no hands just elbows.
I should clarify I meant i wish they kept updating it and kept the same gameplay formula/design philosophy
I’m not good with words
The gameplay is still the same,it's just the combat that's changed
Max saying platforming in eternal stupid looking is fair but to remove it all together is not it.
I really do, I love Mario so much I replicate it by eating Taco Bell and producing fireballs on the toilet
why am i forced to deal with menial dogshit that requires no effort from my end, just so i can get to the parts of the game i like?
Platforming should stay it should just not have spinny fire poles n shit
Why put combat in a combat game? Is that your question? It feels like you inherently dislike doom for what doom is.
So real 
They added hunger, sprinting and changed the world gen too
🤦♀️
Based
Thank you for this delightful comment LB, it truly painted a nice picture in my head right after dinner
This is exactly proof you are a brick wall brother. I’ll end this conversation here.
lmao
You can replicate the picture irl after dinner
Yeah it isn't getting anywhere.
I just had wagyu for the first time in my life, it was nice but not worth the price
W I wanna try that eventually
I wonder what demon tastes like
Ye, it's definitely worth trying
i understand the function of pacing. i understand little timmy's and 45 year old johnny workman's hands get tired if there's too much of one thing at once. i'd like an option to skip the pacing, and that doesn't exist. i think that's bad game design.
There nothing wrong with platforming in doom eternal it good addition to the game, it good thing for taking break from fights, there alot of people appreciate the platforming in doom eternal because not all the people like to keep fight non stop, it nice to take a breath after every fight
I bet pinkies taste the best since they are , lore wise, a prey animal in hell
Having good game design elements is bad okay.
You know, I give up.
I would for sure eat a pinky
Yeah no he just does not listen.
I want to eat a Baron
Literally going in circles here.
I still don't understand why people keep complain about game has been released 5 years ago, just move on lol
Johnny Workman 💀
I think he's referring to you
Projecting.
Never
no, this is a dishonest representation of what i said. there's no option to not do the stuff i don't like. there's no skill gate or something similar that'd let me show my competency formed by previous experience and get a free pass from the, like i said, menial dogshit. my complaint is that there is no other option, not what you said.
WHAT
Idk why livid is on your side, it is a clear representation of you
Nah it’s you M1
😭
you're grounded
I have way too much free time on my hands for that to be me
lol tru
We all know you are a 60 year old Tibetan farmer playing doom on his Xbox he spent years working towards
So who is Johnny Workman and who is Johnny Lazyman
AnomeW help a brother in need
no
No.
Johnny Appleseed
by the way my level gonna have alot of platforming 
I swear I remember a famous guy named Johnny I just forgot his name
depp?
If you put a ton of spectre whiplashes in there again I swear
Bravo
The one with the weird dog
Yes
Marauder
If anyone could make the platforming fun it’s you. no one wants a bunch of bs platforming in a shooter 😂. The base campaign has enough of it perfectly fine
Tsunami
there alot of them 
Spectre marauder 🔛 🔝
gdammit saleem
Spectre Cacodemon needs to return
Honestly deltas levels even as meme’d on as they were had good platforming buts that about it
Spectre possessed pain elemental
Spectre Spirit
omg stop that
Lmao crucible it

I remember 3 things I remember from his UAC level
- Marauders
- Blood maykrs
- Music disappearing when dying in a specific arena
Whoever takes my comment seriously can slip and fall
Great things to remember
Everything not unique, and the only unique one is negative
Im a pro with the crucible due to my 40 years of farming in Tibetan
Spectre Turret hidden inside a bush so you can never find it
it won't let me add another L to my LO
Here you go
I’m so sorry but you can’t put two of the same emojis up
ohhh also give it spectre marauder shield it peak
rip me
You guys be talking about putting big strong mfs in your levels
But I got killai on my side
lol thank you fren
I wish we could do killai irl to get rid of AI 'art'
yo. based
just put buff totems everywhere in places that you can see but cant reach
We could it’s just that I hidden the button to get ride of ai art in mybasement
Wish we could get rid of every marauder
Booooo
Whole level that runs on Buff Totem and starts with it on top of a moving platform that goes to a really high tower you have to scale
perfect
Just had a thought... Buff Totem is literally just Classic DOOM NMifying the demons
just put a door that you have to go all the way back to the beginning of the level to open before you can unlock fast travel
Marauders kewl
No.
I luv them 
whats?
Same, but I don't support fighting them, they suck in that aspect
Fair enough
No.
With all the marauders I've fought I would pass traffic school with flying colors
they get kinda repetitive.
No.
That goes for all enemies but sure.
It slows the game down, it'd be cool if they like chased you shiz
yeah like they don't neccessarily get in the way, it's just I lose a year off of my life and five minutes of my day every time I fight one.
How does it slow the game down?
marauders are just harder to kill thats all
most other enemies dont take as long
Doom hunters are cool
I can decimate a Marauder all day
c r i t i c a l d a m a g g g g g e
I honestly dont mind the doom hunter. Thenagain, I guess the marauder is fine too. As long it's something I can kill, sign me up.
yis
Marauder is like my cool dad like daug phighngerher
I have 605 hours now
to be fair, I love the marauder design so much.
wooptee
Yeah he's a cool lookin fella
fella is a word invented by dead key
Refrain from using it please.
Look here pal
I have a weird history with the word fella
lol
You can blame dead key for that
hahahah
Sure, whatever that means
some canadian
What is happening right now.
No clue really
Anyway, I'm deciding what I want to play before work today. I have a little bit of time left. Maybe a new level. Maybe a Master Level again.
Deadk3y is a YouTuber and he says "buddy", "fella", and "pal" frequently lol
I have something like a bit over 40, idk, havent checked in a while
You have 772 plus 40 😂
I think I need to check my playtime more often
2016 imo, but eternal doesn’t really give off too much information that spoils 2016 so you can start with eternal
guys does master levels needs to be nightmare level to unlock?
anyone else mildly annoyed the search function on the mod manager is just blatantly useless? you can't search by tags, it just highlights the tag you click and does fuck all, and if you do manage to get the search for the tag through it just says theres nothing for it at all
DOOM Eternal™
@simple field I know right its useless atm. There a only few people working on the pc mod beta and everybody else on dark ages. so if they do fix it its gonna be sometime.
I mean my first doom game was doom on the snes so you can start with the classic games if you wish
SNES?????
Ye

tacodemon
Does anyone know who made the dark ages ost
doom
meatball
I wonder why meat covered in fur is cute
Loading my BATSED SSG with MALICIOUS intent...
"I'm about to WACK SWAP into a SLOB"
It’s still infinitely more mentally engaging than having deathmatch arenas separated by hallways with slight platform elements
I was referring to exploration, not combat
Unless you’re actively secret hunting, there’s pretty much 0 thought involved in new dooms exploration
That’s what I’m saying. It shouldn’t be that way.
Doom Eternal’s movement systems could be so much greater when paired with level design that isn’t total ass
What do i do when i get to a checkpoint and i have no ammunition???
Pacing, and making the game more engaging so it doesn’t get stale. Having exclusively arenas after arenas gets stale
Doom was never a character action game though.
on the contrare its the expansion like doom2
Help?
those levels got huge
And I wish that wasn’t the case. I just want a doom game that strikes a balance between the two.
-Strategic, fast paced gameplay
-Complex level design, with secrets and branching paths
-Immersive atmosphere and tension, suspense
This is what makes Doom, Doom to me
game is solid just dont like the quick weapon change, that's alil silly
What do i do when i get to a checkpoint and i have no ammunition???
hmmm? the first 26 maps of doom1+knee deep etc are linear AF. Until doom two got alot more freedom with some system specs and systems getting alil beefier more over than a freaking 486 bro. This is doom at its peak.. It's the running around making sure you change your guns enough cuz the second you use one too much you always run outta ammo... Its the art of the change and pace with shift key on always after a couple hrs of playing... Now its alot more finely tuned compared to what it was... Brah... People like things not to be completly mindless... But... i get your point perhaps a nice Random generation with all the tyle sets really coulda hit a long term sweet spot... Its just not the same as making a wad anymore....
There is a thing called chainsaw which you use with whatever key you set it to
But if i cant what do i do..?????
you probably would be dead anyway
Noob lol
I mean ya kinda
so sad so salty sorry bro!
Is there a way to restock during when i die like many games do?
you can run back
things behind you will respawn unless your playing hardest difficulty
No lol
and dont trust barrels after mission 5. they start to take forever to respawn so getting ammo from them sux
but in the bigging its amazing
beginning*
Har far can i go back and how often, depending on the map?
Just go back to call of duty lol 
depends how far you are.. I mean... you have infinite greneds and flame that you can switch between on your items
Infinite grenades?
A couple people said to go back...?
Well clearly you miscommunicated
ohhhh unless you stuck in an arena >.>
yeah if you get the double grenades in your suite you can switch between ice and double grenades
But theyre infinite?
yeah they have a cd depending on your build
How bad do you have to be to be afraid to saw for ammo lol
hah! its gimmicky though >.>
but takes new people along time to understand
Cuz half you sad sacks of shit are saltier than my ass crack
Either you don’t understand english or you’re just plain dumb to not understand lol
wtf you insulting people... get a life m8... not everyone is as awesome as you
go back to roblox
Do the chewing at least bro they put the spoon in your mouth
i seen people with 2500hrs elden ring and only level 280
i mean... you know... some people just uhmmmmmmmm......
are people
im pretty slow myself... but i take my stupidity in pride!
I don’t see why but whatever
cuz im fucking clever mother fucker
sure thing mr manic psychosis w/e you want
That’s the whole point lol
wow this chat got ugly quick haha
i need help
i got arc complex all missions and secret items and replayed the level on nightmare diff but still didn't manage to get the master level, is it because i didn't finish the campagin or what?
sup
You have to buy a bundle for arc complex ML
Idk which one tho
No
Only for the cultist base ML
Is it cultist?
It's the rip & tear pack
Yea
doom vs eternal 😈
Haha so funny lol xd 
anyone has trouble avoiding those energy wave attacks Whiplashes, Carcasses and Tyrants use?
I find them hard to avoid because they not only track you but also seem to be buggy. I often get hit by them even when dashing away
They stop tracking if you’re on a different elevation but a well timed dash is a reliable way to dodge
And the best way is to just kill them lmao 
also for some reason double jumping shortly before a waveblast makes it do 0 damage
not sure why everyone hate Whiplashes so much
lock-on burst makes them a joke
how did his whole body explode into a splatter of blood after that flashback cuts back to the game, with all that remains of him being his head?
i think the body just fell during the cutscene yk
that is possible
but where did the blood that splattered on the ground come from?
the destruction of the connection of the carotid artery 💀
if you yoink off someone head aint they gonna bleed?
doom guy ATE him
i hate the wiplash so much
SHE WONT STOP MOVING
she has some of the best glory kills in the game
impaling her mouth with her own arm bone 
Their ground attacks are literally broken. But that goes for tyrants, barons, and archviles.
yea its the reward for killing the most annoying enemy
the wiplash is more annoying than the marauder. Now thats saying something
Marauder isn’t annoying
fun fact: the Prowler also has that glory kill animation
it's actually the same animation
What do you do about spectres eh?
Their attacks go in the air therefore not a ground attack therefore broken.
oh havent tried that yet lmao. i alway just use my favorite combo on her. super shotgun, ballista.
now that i think about it that would make life much easier....
I destroy him very easily
thanks. now i might like the wiplash a bit more
its fun to do as well
r u on pc?
cos im on playstation
and fighting them is like hell
this combo is controller viable as well
I literally use that
and i have almost 200 hours on the game
i just hope that dark ages will be more tolerable on controller...
holy shit
thats sick
congrats
i have a laptop and i love playing games on it but i cant run doom eternal on it
i do prefer keyboard and mouse
the Marauder, once considered the worst and most difficult enemy in the game with everyone having trouble fighting him, is now getting absolutely destroyed in 2 seconds
amazing
thats so cool. do you reckon it would be possible on controller?
you cant for eternal
ive tried
idk
Eternal is definitely a game that is better to play with keyboard and mouse than controller
yes agreed...
would be sick
it is definitely possible, still has a decent bar of execution though
i could do it

have you guys saw the mod for Eternal that retextures the Baron into the 2016 version?
yes, it looks pretty cool
Ps 5 unable to connect
i miss 2016 barron so bad man
Literally a dad in his backyard
Fighting another icon of sin would’ve been a bit better
I marauder is always and has always been a nuisance
The whiplash is just eh
You could learn to do the double slob thing without the frag grenade, for an even more well timed combo
Yea
Yea, a SLOB
Mb, it's only 1 slob since it involves botht he lobs
If you start it with a heavy cannon shot instead of a pb it works
This is Quick Lock-on; also known as Sylar Lock-on Burst (SLOB). But instead of doing it from a PB shot, I do it right after a normal shot.
So, the game has this thing called "Hyper Swap" which lets you swap weapons faster after you switch from the Chaingun/Plasma/Rifle AFTER firing them or their certain mods. You HAVE to lock-on within that ...
Yea, but it just makes them go away quicker
Less time fighting marauder=more fun
The fastest marauder combo just depends on the situation
One important thing you have to keep in mind is that you need to mod swap cancel out of your LOB
This works even when he doesn't flash his eyes however
But this is easy to do, just press the mod swap button right before switching weapon
nah, i'd win
You can easily get consistent with the slob frag combo
Pb, slob, mod swap cancel into ballista, pb, sticky bomb, ballista, mod swap cancel into ssg
Or any combo
sup guys
Greetings, Slayer! 
Hello! How are you?
Good 
You? :>
this was truly an ultrakill
PB-grenade-double SLOB
assuming you did it right, he should be dead
This is assumin you get a green eye flash immediately
Almost always you don't get it imeediately when you go to the marauder so then lock-on redirect is faster
as long as you stay in "the fun zone" that should be always
Literally impossible
axe throw is always his first move, green flash should be the second if you stay in the correct spot
DOOM Marauder / Marauder Meme
MarauderPosting must become a thing NOW!
#DOOM #DOOMEternal #MarauderPosting
This takes a few seconds, him throwing his axe and then running at you
At that point this is quicker
It's a quite negligible time difference, but due to the marauder being buggy, I would much prefer lock-on redirect than a SLOB combo
that would make sense
i guess it's down to how fast you want to kill him
i personally wouldn't mind waiting a few seconds to get a clean one-combo
It very quicky gets boring waiting for the marauder, I'd rather get on with the game
Why do you prefer a 1 cycle over a 0 cycle? They're both just as clean
saaaame
not sure, just feels smoother to me 
and plus i like killing the marauder by absolutely obliterating him
What is SLOB
I thing Marauders are only bad enemy in classic campaign i don't know if there are other bad enemies in tag 1 and 2
With bad i mean that you have to Wait to green flash
Once you learn the dance they are easier than most of the enemies in the game lol
They’re not really annoying to me
To be fair I don’t play Eternal that often
Maybe 2-5 times a month
I mainly play the Classics lol
That DLC was hard as hell when I played it
And i thing UAC Atlantica Is little bit borring
How many times harder than campaign
Pretty badly at times
I actually like that level
Ok...
Just get used to fighting 2 marauders every 3 seconds lol
You’ll live through it, though
I don't said i don't like it but it's little bit borring
Oh shit
The Samur fight is BS though
I don't fight more than one in one moment
Worst level in the whole game imo
Samur? BS?
Oh shit
BS stands for bullshit. Samur is just a boss. I won’t spoil anything else.
How do you fight Marauders?
O ok
I personally just ballista, dash, ssg, dash, ballista
It 2 cycles them
They die before they can do any damage
I'm little bit slow so one green flash Is one balista shot
Or one balista And one ssg
Dodging Marauders' Attacks Is not So hard
That’s what I usually did on console
On PC I could swap much faster
I play on computer
You can throw extra damage in there with the dashes, though
How
does someone knows how i can get an 100% savegame and play it? i already completed doom eternal before but my savegame got completelly gone idk why
I don't know my copleted game Is still saved
i already tried many different methods to get a functional one but all my tries have failed
Sorry i think i cannot help there
Sadly not, sorry
dang
Keep your response here but maybe ask in #community-support as well?
alright, im gonna do that
How Is it works
You dash into them basically
Dashes do damage believe it or not
Not sure, but for sure more than punching lol
And it’s for sure enough to stagger a marauder in 2 cycles
Ok
Well, assuming you go with the steps I mentioned earlier
I don’t know about ballista + ssg
I know it works with ballista + ssg + ballista
A tech to make lock-ok burst faster
I agree
I shot him maybe six seven time And He stager
Oh you think that thing you do two Fast lock-on
Dashing does 50 damage
Exactly
Ok
With PB?
Yes
I find how to make without PB
I just shoot with random weapon most times SSG or CG and quickswap rocket launcher And instantly press And hold right button and shoot
It works more than two times
Why is the woman in the UAC holograms so condescending, isnt the UAC on earths side
I think i remember there Is in codex that there Is good UAC And Cultist UAC but it sounds like BS
hello guys
can someone PLEASE HELP ME IM GOING INSANE
ive started playing doom a cuple of days ago and i love it
im playing it non stop
BUT
for some reason it just keeps freezing, and the only whey to close it is with the task manager
the game runs perfectly with absolutely no problems
i got a Lenovo LOQ intel i7 13 gen HX, Nvidia 4060 and 16GB DDR 5 ram
165Hz refresh rate
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
Hello, I have a question, if I uninstall Doom and then reinstall it, will all my progress be saved?
Yes it should be. But to dubble check go to Documents > Games and then whatever the fck the doom directory is to see if there are save files
Also my man that a realy simple question have i thaught of going to google or chatgpt first?
Ul get faster and more accurate results
thanks
No prob 👍
Yea cuz of cloud saves
On steam at least idk about the other platforms
With what
..
yea
What one does more damage the heavy cannon or combat shotgun?
Completely dependent on the situation
Makes sense...
I like using sticky bombs for weak points and the micro missiles for crowd control
but some people really like the scope on the heavy cannon
Right! Thanks!!
Yeah np! Just experiment and use what you find fun
@austere bronze How much ammo does it take to blow up a spirit?
I know I’m not M1, but current patch it should be 60, used to be 75
Heavy cannon is the highest damage weapon with a quickswap combo.
What are you guys's thoughts on Doom Eternal's weapon balancing? What gaps are there, how should they be filled with new weapons in the next game?
I've been thinking. If they make a new game that keeps Eternal's combat design, I think they should switch the meathook from an ssg mod to a seperate keybind. I think that they need to add an enemy that counters aerial camping by dragging you to the ground or stunning you somehow (maybe the tentacle commando from Doom 3 could return this way). They should add a weapon functioning similar to the Soul Cube that feeds off of demon souls.
Also, I think parrying is a logical next step to Doom's whole aggressive 'push forward' approach
Thank you!
I feel like the heavy cannon's default fire should have been something like PB and it should have gotten another mod to go with it. Maybe a flamethrower attachment or something
i think parrying is kind of the opposite of push forward because it's more reactive (as opposed to proactive) than most of the gameplay.
That is true. Maybe parrying gives you some sort of close range combat bonus, like an explosion in a short radius around you
This is about Dark Ages I assume?
Kinda, but I'm mostly thinking if they expand on Eternal's combat philosophy
Which Dark Ages isnt
Ah I see, it’s been up debate for the past few weeks from what I’ve seen actually of how balance is discussed
Hugo said Dark Ages is focusing alot more on circle-strafing, projectiles, and boots-on-the-ground combat like OG doom
It also has pretty much no limit for how many demons can be on-screen, and has way more open arenas
That’s what’s seen in the trailer I noticed yeah, there are only like a few things form Eternal from what I remember, there’s glory kills, you can still blow off body parts of demons but it seems to even more gruesome because in dark ages you can outright shoot arms off
oh yeah, full on necro-morph dead space limb tearing
I do imagine there will be some kind of regenerating enemy though unlike some in other games you can still kill it
By gameplay I guess it kinda does but setting and the way it looks? Absolutely not
I still have no idea to this day if more people like or dislike it honestly
Yeah that’s what I here a lot though that also just goes for Eternal as a game in general, it’s bigger, it’s better and more explosions and more expansive
It does however come at the cost of the tone which I do miss quite a bit when I’m playing it
I could stomach it, but that’s legit only because I don’t really care for Lore in doom that much to begin with but then it’s shown he’s…. Actually god?
Excuse me
yeah you are mentally ill
It’s just such a weird thing to add, it doesn’t do much of anything, it’s not like Davoth has shown any sort of care before that reveal anyways
or blind either the two
Do you prefer doom 2016 melee
2016 is just a downgrade of eternal honestly
That’s a bit unfair, even though I was in the same boat it’s nice to at least look at the positives of 2016 even when I think it’s a worse game overall
who cares about the story
everyone is here to rip and tear demons
so you agree with me
yo doom eternal has the best story in any game ive ever played (ive only played doom eternal)
I mean to be fair, there was clearly a lot of time put into Eternals story so shouldn’t it be fair to criticise it a bit since they clearly were trying to make it this epic story?
I don't know i think eternal story is prefect especially the anicent god 2
if you have more than room temperature iq you can tell that you literally just agreed no one cares about the story
The dark lord fight is awesome
unfortunately you have a the logic of a goldfish
The Dork Lord
but like have you guys considered this?
We don’t have to argue about this
Bro look at profile pic lol
Kiddo
i'm going to call idiots out on their stupidity
Real as hell
guys did you know that mick gordon did the soundtrack for doom eternal?
I think doom 3 is peak game design
Doom eternal's story is contrived MCU-tier garbage and it's artistic direction went to shite
Question
"who cares about the story"
Response:
"No one, especially Eternal's"
You just agreed with me
who?
Listen you can disagree with the guy, that’s fair, but you don’t need to insult him
Ikr
You're the worst
You are missing the crucial piece of context where this guys sole purpose in this server is arguing and insulting other people
every time
Oh-
Doom eternal got combat almost perfect and it's setpieces are absolutely immaculate but it's story is soo ASS
They just compeltely ruined Samuel Hayden's character, they turned Satan into a contrivered Warhammer 40k knockoff
I see, thank you for the context
Precisely and yet you still tried to use story as an argument.
so anyone one here actually like doom eternal or
^^^
You used story as an argument against me and proceeded to agree with me
you are horrible at debating
hey if you guys arent going to acknowledge anyone else then maybe take this to dms
Hello Microwaved Bunny
wsg microwaved bunny
No one cares about the story in Doom, but having a halfway-decent story can still make the game more pleasant even if it's not enjoyable. Especially if it's subtle environmental/worldbuilding storytelling.
Also, you could care about the story if it was actually good
Eternal at least puts legitimate thought and care into it's story
for the record, on first playthough the story cool
Yoo, bunny l like your mario level i enjoy it so much, it bit difficult but i love it
thanks king
I never felt that way about it. Like, you're telling me Samuel Hayden, the nuanced businessman character, is actually a fucking alien/angel thing for no reason? That god is simultanously satan or whatever, but he's also the reincarnation of Doomguy? Huh??? It makes no damn sense
Doom eternals story feels like it was designed by a chimpanzee on a typewriter after snorting 27 liters of crack cocaine
2016 had breadcrumbs hinting at Hayden's alien origins. The dark lord being a reincarnation of doomguy is blatantly false
🥱
The plot is kinda cringy tbh why the slayer kill demons because they killed his bunny so cringe
Criticizing the story while not even knowing it is just hating at that point
Hey listen, it wasn’t just A bunny
It was THE bunny
who
Microwaved
Doom 2016's story could be at least understood by somebody outside the franchise. But Doom eternal's story is basically "Alright, so a multiverse-travelling demigod marine is in a war with a medieval warrior race, angels, and Hell. He has weird ass random coins that allow him to kill Hell Priests, a random space fortress for NO REASON, his AI Alexa/Siri buddy is literally GOD REINCARNATE, Samuel Hayden is a fucking Angel, he kills God, then summons Satan God God, who is also the same as DOomguy
Don't fuck with doom fans we don't pay attention to details
cares
Have any play god of war 2018 the story way better
Don’t fuck with doom fans we don’t even play doom
yo i acutally no bullshit watched a 4+ hour youtube video about the lore of doom start to finsih and it was actually cool
I do know it. What I said was just exaggeration/paraphrasing. I watched like 10 hours of doom lore videos lmao
Ikr
yo can you stop projecting?
I know right. Just have him go through the levels seamlessly like in 2016
Or give him a UAC base as hub with a bunch of Marine buddies
Like warhammer 2 space marine
warhammer is dog shit
Here's how I view it. Doom should not be about a multiversal demigod warrior slaying demons with angels, aliens, medieval knights. It should be about a Marine, a Man, with only his guns and his wits, fighting off a demon invasion. Plain n simple.
I think doom 3 is peak game design, so cool you can kill demons with flashlight
God forbid a franchise try different things every now and then
i wish i could ballista boost my head off
Same
Anyway can't wait gta 6 will be better then every game
GTA 6 is a myth
You know what also a myth, is doom 3 is good game
we really got skibidi only_perception before gta 6
you have spewed enough nonsense for us to know you have doodoo brain
What an GTA ??
lol real
For me personly i prefer doom 3 flashlight melee more then the blood punch
Teach me your ways
You just fight and argue with everyone here, everyday
This chat feels like a place where 60% of the users are just intentionally saying shit just so people can fight
Yeah at first I was agreeing with you but I feel like you're going too far with the arguing rn
I hear Facebook is a really good place for people to argue, js
Eternal has release almost 5 years ago people still complain lmao just move on
only perception do you like duke dennis in Ohio
We can all agree, that doom is pretty cool, right?
Please don't argue about that too
Respectable, honest opinion
I don't know about that tbh
Fuck
Tragic
What an Doom??
Maybe only for this game? At least for 1/2 it's a good mix imo.
The real Doom was the friends we made along the way
I got no experience with Doom Eternal modding personally
yeah me either
Oh like doom game, yeah my favorite doom game is doom the third
What was your favourite part about the game
The flashlight
I tried beating all doom games in 1997 but got bored since there were 64 games. Then doom eternal came out and I can't try again since there are infinite doom games
Real.
Oh damm, you’re gonna hate BFG edition
Fake
Gaslight
Why ?
i just wish there were more easy mods
Cause uh, the lighting engine makes it so you don’t even need it
I want id Software to make a sort of 'Master Chief Collection' but for the Slayer, featuring all the mainline Doom games, remastered, in one unified product with connected multiplayer and mod support across consoles
Tammie's not exactly wrong, actually. Perception's claim is right to a point but most of the gameplay in 1/2 is highly dependent on combat puzzles
There's a guy that made a Mario mod and it's too CBT and hard idk why
yeah like bro thats a kids game
Yeah, but i like beating demon with flashlight
yeah but @jovial coral u play the bfg edition
When I was playing the Dead Space remake, I thought to myself; I'm pretty sure the original game is level-based, but the remake is seamlessly connected; the levels are all connected through a big tram station and there is backtracking for side missions and I think that would be very good for a Doom game.
Idk I’m not even serious about this anymore I can’t even argue with this type of person, too mentally fatiguing
yeah...
ayo quesiton for everyone here fr
Why there two different versions of doom 3, what the bfg edition like you play only with bfg
why is bro here if he doesnt like doom?
I'm physically unable to stop myself from arguing with someone if I dislike their opinion enough, even if they're clearly too stubborn to have their minds changed
I die on all my hills
huh?
That’s sounds uh-
that was not directed towards you, you do know that right
Yeah I know I'm just making a comment about myself
Life story
Relatable
ayo my name is @solar warren and i dont like doom but im here to try to sound smart to the people who are laughin at me and trolling bc i feed it with my witty comments and very interesting paragraphs
<@&162901871168585728> can u just kick this guy out please? All he does it start shit continually
wrong usage of ModMail, LM
Maybe the real @solar warren is a phantom and he is simply a voice in your head
I wonder if someone mod doom eternal like if they can add flashlights
the real one died 3 years ago\
Someone can mod it to replace the melee slot so you can have a bloodlight
Someone needs to port the Doom 3 map to DE. It'd be so hilarious trying desperately to use Doom eternal's advanced movement and fight the extremely aggressive, fast AI while cramped in tiny dark corridors
oh yeah that'd actually be kinda hilarious lol
That will be cool
Valid
Oil all the floors so it feels slippery like classic doom
very witty Infact, ISTP
Yeah Doom Hallways that will be good
without rocket jumping or archvile jumps.. or wallrunning
What would your guys thoughts be if they added Titanfall 2 style parkour movement to Doom
Like wallrunning, slidehopping, etc
Archvile jumps are way too fun to do honestly
immediate hatred towards the game
I am gonna play doom eternal for second time any tips ??
I actually like Titanfall 2, but it's style of movement should stay in that style of game
Remember there isn’t a flashlight so you don’t immediately trick yourself into meleeing enemies
Actually just don’t use the regular melee
I play Doom for Doom, not to get shit on due to my own lack of skill
What if they implemented crouching into dodge mechanics? Like for example, an enemy with a projectile blade that you must crouch to avoid. Of course, crouching would have to be faster and more instantaneous for this to work
I know i beat the game before
you can 2 cycle maruaders easily with ballista + dash + SSG + dash + ballista
I'm kinda obsessed with Doom's game design
stupid easy combo that I personally use
Doom changing gameplay slightly every time is the best part about it, besides 1 and 2 of course they all feel different to play
Marauder don't remember him
though my mind's about as organized as a pig sty so I'll consistently miss a button press in the combo
Marauder? Don't know him
i think they should add a horse
Ohhhhhhh is that the shield guy
There’s 4 shields guys-
honestly the dragon's good enough for me lol
5 if you count bosses
I am just joking guys i have 1800 hours of doom eternal lol
saleem join vc in modded mp
How many hours do you have in Doom 3, I bet it’s not more than me
Gonna go to sleep soon
question is how many copies of Doom 1 you have
I’ve been working on a game design document for my hypothetical ‘perfect’ Doom game concept for ages and I always get stuck because I have conflicting ideas:
Should it be industrial, sci-fi horror? (Doom 3, 2016, cut Doom 4)
Should it embrace retro low-tech cheesy 90s b-movie aesthetics? (Doom 1 and 2)
Should it go full on DMC focusing entirely on an advanced combat system? (Doom eternal)
btw I only got like an hour tops in 3
Why am I being told you’re causing problems again
the ambience really screws with my anxiety so I can't play it for long increments
I have PC, Switch and PS, do I pass
I played it multiple time in past i did a playthrough with bfg edition i played last year
Damm, you do have more hours than me
I am actually a modder
not even close if you're trying to get pass me lol
DARN
what does a penguin need with so many copies of doom-
Working in map atm
I will put pics in modding channel
hi
Reasons beyond human comprehension, Sketchy
A mystery I will take to my grave I guess, how unfortunate, woe is me
anyways
I'm going bowling tomorrow but afterwards I'm gonna finally do ARC ML and attempt it on Nightmare
Check my last message in modding channel
omfg thank you @spare marsh 🙏 appreciate it
mind you, I haven't even played UV on Eternal yet
Ok now we can all move on to a better chat. What's everyone playing in Eternal lately?
There also a demo for it only the first area you can play
nothing
I'm replaying through the campaign, just because I haven't in a long time. I'm surprised at how little I remembered of ARC Complex
Everyone who hasn't should play Saleem's Levitation demo in the Doom mod library, it's good
I've been playing mainly Arceon for Doom 2, Tiny Glade, and some 3DS games so I've barely touched Eternal
well, most of my time has been taken up from constant studying so yeah
hey
Hey! Wyd
That's fair. I've been working a ton lately so playing less than usual too. Hope school is going well for ya
livin
Wanna deathmatch in Classic for a bit?
Leetss goo, I finally beat the dark lord on nightmare!!!
Nice work yo
Do you have to do the bonus wave in horde mode nightmare to get tutorial slayer
Ijust need some help cause i didnt get it but i did it
You need to beat just the main Arenas in the first mission of horde mode to get it
Ok thanks
like 1v1?
I find Eternal's weapon balancing... lacking to say the least, some mods are clearly better than others and the entire chaingun (except the shield) is trash along with the plasma rifle
Automatic weapons are all bad and boring to use due to the nature of Eternal, the spray weapons would be better left out and instead have some actually interesting mods and weapons
I don't see the point of having a seperate bind for the meathook and I don't think adding in an enemy to counter an entire playstyle is the right move, instead just add 1 or demon but it isn't stronger than cacos/pain elementals and make ground enemies just as threatening when in the air
Shouldnt be too hard its the easiest master level
Is it normal i find something like SLOB but it works more than two times
I hear SLOB works only two times And after that Is normal long lock on
But my lock-ons Are Faster than normal
But my are faster and i don't use SLOB
oh man, i just installed the updated eternal mod injector so i could play some mods not yet ported, and it feels so great finally being able to play some of the mods
amd what about the other ones? how to get master levels for other levels i tried so hard but got nothing working so tell me
also how to get mods ( i used to play on ps4 and now on pc thats why 🥲)
Simple and Easy Tutorial for installing mods for DOOM Eternal in 2024!
With the release of the Official Mod Tool, iD Studio, there are now a wider variety of possibilities for Modding in DOOM Eternal, here's how you can get things set up to play what the community's been working on.
Considering Unofficial Mod Tools were used for 4 years prior ...
No idea
alright thank you !
Hİ
i think i found a weird glich, in some places if ur use the double jump but ur mess a ledge to mantle and melee, it garants u a tripple jump
At first it caught my attention because the melee helped me reach a faulty mantle.
But as i keep trying i find out it garants u a "tripple" jump
or the "contact" with ground resets the double jump
spirits are singlehandedly ruining my enjoyment of the game
they fucking suck
@young mango you familiar with this?
It seems like he’s just jumping off the brief contact with the geometry, im just glancing at it since I’m a bit busy right now so I could be wrong
PB rocket and use hook to gain height, is the right way, unlees is the possesed marauder
its the possessed baron of hell from the 2nd mission of the DLC thats pissing me off
if u use the laser beam it gets stunned for a second, u can stun and ssh a lot of times, the problem is that u end with no plasma ammo
How long did it take me to realize that the objective for escaping super gore nest is a terminator reference
it’s SSG not SSH
Probably shorter than for me, I didn't know until now
I just noticed today
yeah, i keep running out of ammo when the goddamned spirit im fighting is at low health
Chainsaw then
Then
You never want to run out of ammo
why aren’t you using the chainsaw
You should always chainsaw when at 30-60% of full ammo capacity
most of the time zombies/fodder spawn constantly till all heavy/super heavies are dead
looking for 2 people to help with battlemode achievements wanting to do bloodbath boosting

No glory kill highlight either
found noclip bug i think has anyone else encountered this
was i supposed to get crushed
no glory kill highlights in desc is a weird flex
i had to close the game what did you do
I just reloaded the checkpoint and the game continued as normal
I’ve seen this one happen to quite a few people at this point
honestly crushers in general in doom eternal are just festering with out of bounds chicanery
I got jaw speed one time off the DHB crushers and somehow managed to hit a death plane to the previous room
didn't fit in the video title :p
"ARC Masterlevel NM is easy"
I'm literally dying to the easiest bloody enemy in the game over and over again
ok, it's done
why the hell did they not even do anything to the final battle?
It’s comparatively easy, none of it is objective, just it’s the easiest out of the master levels that it is roped in with
fair
though I also consider easiest enemy in this case the Marauder sooo
¯_(ツ)_/¯
although even comparatively I’ve heard some people with ridiculous opinions, like saying mars core is the hardest ( yes including world spear )
also I will mention this is my first time I've played the game on Nightmare
hell, even UV I haven't played yet
oh, neat, my first time playing something on nightmare was also arc complex ML
always played on HMP
My skill was on a plateau for a decent amount of time until I want to say like late 2022 when I beat SGN ML on UN for the first time and started branching out what I could do
I honestly don't think my skill will improve from here, honestly
I'm not good at games
It just takes dedication, I hardly played video games prior to eternal, so I’ve sort of held the mindset that if I could do it, anybody else with enough time to set aside could as well
But again these are just recreational activities you don’t have to push yourself to a certain skill level if you don’t want to
Man un blood swamps is tense
I've been playing video games my whole life
I used to push myself to get as good as I could and I actually got worse
later on started hating PVP and also slowly gaining my like for retro games/hardware which led me to the Doom franchise
but yeah, point is that I gave up pushing myself
Blood swamps was such a wasted opportunity IMO, it only has 2 real arenas
Yeah but those 2 arenas go hard
I don’t get how i struggled so hard with the boss in my nightmare run tho
That's at least something good about the level
Eh, I personally don't care much for it
anyone round here know if it's possible to make the weapon wheel delay 0ms?
can someone help me for some reason i cant play the campaign i downloaded everything from the gamepass pc
and still its telling me i havent bought it
im not sure i dont use gamepass anymore. imo your best bet is to buy it from steam.
but why should i buy the game if i already have it on gamepass
was just saying. suppose ya try a support ticket. can you verify files?
so I finished the game and I want to change the fortress color to blue. Is it possible?
Does slayers club still have rewards for eternal?
I thing no because fortress power Is from demon crucible
Are blood swamps in tag 1 hard?
is a single LOB enough to falter everything which can be faltered?
probably
you can do that with less but yeah, should be
why are a lot of people calling the ARC Complex Marauder a ''boss'' as if he's any different than other Marauders?
I assume it’s cause of the cutscene and the fact you fight him one on one, I still don’t see it tbh, I’ve always just considered him and the Tyrant as Minibosses
Not really
Doom Eternal already has the most doom bosses anyways at 7
I don't see them at minibosses, they fit good into the super heavy category
They are way too easy to be minibosses
Good point, i honestly didn’t even know the Marauder was super heavy until now, he just dies so fast, at least when I fight him
Doesn’t he have like just under a barons health from what I remember
He has 1/3 less HP
Never mind- I was so wrong
Baron has 7 500 HP and the marauder has 5000
Gotcha
As much as a pain elemental lol
The Pain Elemental is the only reason I don’t forget lost souls even exist in eternal
Man how did anyone manage to get a bfg kill in battlemode, I tried this for hours and when I finally hit somebody it barely does anything :x
any tips? I want this game on 100% (steam) and it's getting pretty tiring
Just get to round 3 and shoot them when they’re lagging
Jokes aside you can see their health so when they’re running away dash into them and shoot your bfg and bfg tendrils doesn’t do anything to player demons
Quite normal, yes
Bro is really like that
Lightsaber
But that's because I'm a huuge star wars fan
Why so serious?
Uhhhhh the orange battle axe that Optimus prime has
Pain elemental makes powerups super fun
Wsg gang
When the marauder just… randomly goes away on its own?
Playing holt UN and the marauder in the first arena just decided to go away
lol love that. I have shit spawn and then just disappear and it makes me laugh
omg sounds terrible tbh😭
- Blood maykrs deal all of your health for even being near them
- Stupid eyeball things damage you for being on the same planet as them
- Lasers!!!!!!
- Posessed enemies that you can never track down because the pillars obstruct your view (makes the blood maykrs even worse)
- Cacodemon phase that exists purely to waste time
Cacodemon phase is so stupid and there’s really no way of justifying it yeah, you don’t even have to kill anything it’s just a one minute timer
I just go for stickybomb meathook glory kill to get my armor back
Its not like individual cacos are even threatening
For me though its just those blood maykrs
Their melee attack does way too much damage and the slowdown is infuriating
My only real issues with the bossfight is
- Things that stun you
- A minute caco phase
hi, dead chyat
who can help with online achievements in doom eternal?
do you play on ps4?
im play pc
who can help with online achievements in doom eternal?(pc)
i first tried that level on UN i found him pretty easy honestly
Skill issue 
You know someone is annoying when this is what they have to say
Advice? Nah let me fuel my superiority complex
I definitely have important things going on in my life because i need to act superior over a single player campaign
I legitimately hate every doom eternal boss
Doom 2016 feels like the only doom game out of all of them that got bosses right
To some extent i dislike most of em
My biggest issue with most DE bosses is they all feel like glorified Marauders
I think eternal did a lot better than 2016 but i really prefer 2016's bosses
Cyberdemon is definitely one of my favorite fps bosses
I much prefer the spider mastermind to the icon of sin
Wish me luck finishing doom in nightmare for the first time
Normal nightmare or ultra nightmare
Still have to fight khan maykr and icon of sin
Normal
Shouldnt be too bad
Since you can afford to die
Kahn maykr is kind of a joke
And icon of sin is just tedious
Fair
But the cyber mancubus and archviles get to me
Use your crucible charges
Also archviles?
I got 1 for until icon of sins
I dont remember him spawning any archviles
Cyber mancubi die in one blood punch + a point blank super-shotgun. If you have mastered lock on, you can freeze the archvile then use lock-on burst
Noo ik i was talking for the game in grberal
Super shotgun first
Either works afaik
I havent played the game in over a year so
Ive found from personal experience that supershotgun into blood punch makes getting a glory kill easier
Instead of blood punch into supershotgun
Which gives you back a free blood punch
Plus it makes it so that you can get back any lost health from meathooking a cyber manc
For archies i just do ice bomb rocket pb
Ohh never thought of that
I alwats tried getting them with meathook and ballista
Supershotgun syndrome
Bro i didn’t ask anything about your life and i also have a life too
My point is that you definitely have low self esteem if you need to prop yourself up with a single player shooter game
I don’t but whatever
Superiority complex much?
Bro what you on about
but all he said was skill issue
Yeah an obnoxiously smug response
Don't take it to heart he is just joking
lol bro acts like its his first time on the internet
Nah i just dont like dealing with annoying smugness
I'm not the other guy but I've meant "skill issue" seriously very rarely
Exactly
If youre gonna be a pain then im gonna point out how youre acting
Just because its the internet doesnt mean you should be condescending for no reason
And i’m pointing out it’s a skill issue
“A superiority complex is a belief that your abilities or accomplishments are somehow dramatically better than other people's. People with a superiority complex may be condescending, smug, or mean to other people who don't agree with them.”
Ngl i enjoy this way too much than i should
I don't think he means it
I don’t think any of this and your assumptions is crazyyy bro
Dont worry monstercat i bet your life will turn around eventually
I don't know if you are being serious
Definitely bud i believe in you