doom-eternal

[signal willow]

Milestones, thanks, didn't know how to say it in English, I speak Spanish

[cloud harness]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[azure oriole]

Ah

[visual topaz]

I've never had an interest because I ultimately do not believe in it. But Agreed. See ya.

[azure oriole]

Eternal is so good

[signal willow]

Real

[azure oriole]

I have such bias for 2016 but damn is the game fun

[cloud harness]

Trying to get quick switching down but I just keep using the weapon wheel lol

[verbal wigeon]

it is but eternal is way superior in terms of gameplay

[azure oriole]

Console Player moment (I am console player)

[cloud harness]

I honestly might not be able to go back to 2016 after this tbh

[verbal wigeon]

ps i like the visuals and dark environments of 2016

[cloud harness]

🤝

[verbal wigeon]

it was way better imo

[signal willow]

Do you guys have all the milestones?

[azure oriole]

I gotta keep doing 2016

I need to beat UN

[verbal wigeon]

do no hit run lmao

[visual topaz]

Eternal is my favorite game of all time. Before that it was Doom 2016. Despite this, I've had the itch to play 2016 again. XD

[cloud harness]

the world if eternal had gyro aiming on all consoles

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-cybercity-gif-25767294

[signal willow]

I think dark ages will have that type of environments and a better gameplay

[verbal wigeon]

yep

[signal willow]

With more types of guns

But more fast I hope

[verbal wigeon]

i dont think it will be fast as eternal.

Definitely not

[upper lichen]

Hi Gante, I have a question that has nothing to do with the server. Does anyone know where I can find an anti-furry server?

[verbal wigeon]

i think hugo mentioned it

[cloud harness]

Cant believe I've just been letting this game sit in my library these past several months

[verbal wigeon]

idk, can't live without playing it atleast once a week

[signal willow]

Maybe less, but the player can get more damage

[verbal wigeon]

It's more like the og doom. Stand and fight, not much jumping and meathooking

[signal willow]

And use more melee

[verbal wigeon]

yep

[signal willow]

But keeping the jumping and shit

[verbal wigeon]

the only thing that i want is mod support day one.

[azure oriole]

I want the dash still

[verbal wigeon]

Eternal got mod support 4 years after the game release

[cloud harness]

Dual wield ssg is all I ask

[verbal wigeon]

understandable because of the pandemic and stuff

[azure oriole]

Fr

[signal willow]

They can't remove it, I think it's the best mechanic

[azure oriole]

Double Jumping is nice but damn does dashing help so much

[verbal wigeon]

We just gotta wait

for the second trailer

[signal willow]

Like, how you will escape the 102858104872 enemies that appear without dash

[signal willow]

It will be epic

[azure oriole]

The bfg in my pocket:

[signal willow]

But no ammo:

[verbal wigeon]

chainsaw shield. I think people who watched the gameplay footage (in quakecon) said this

[azure oriole]

Yea there will be one

Wait if it could use fuel to block projectiles that'd be sick

[verbal wigeon]

the only question i have is how tf will they introduce the bfg, since this all takes place in argent d'nur

[cloud harness]

Chainsaw:

[signal willow]

It's like captain America

The shield

[azure oriole]

We should move to #the-dark-ages for this

[verbal wigeon]

ok

[cloud harness]

What outfit yall usually use in eternal?

[verbal wigeon]

the og skin

just like my pfp

[cloud harness]

based
Got it as soon as I got two batteries

Who needs upgrades when you got og drip

[verbal wigeon]

It's cool af

[signal willow]

Lord of golden rewards

Gold arm

[azure oriole]

Lux?

[signal willow]

Fire boots

[cloud harness]

How you get those?

[signal willow]

Horde mode

[azure oriole]

Idk which I use tbh

I guess Scarlet Praetor or Doom 2 Guy

[signal willow]

Completing it in nightmare

[verbal wigeon]

Haven't completed it yet. Should do it sometime later

[signal willow]

Actually i think that's not the way

[azure oriole]

I beat it on ITYTD for the cosmetics

[signal willow]

But something like that

[verbal wigeon]

i tried unholy urdak and for some goddamn reason, the game crashed while i was in the final arena of the holt

and it's not a new save file

tried playing it again, lags like crazy

[signal willow]

Golden bounty lord, my bad

[cloud harness]

What are they

[signal willow]

Beating horde mode on nightmare

[verbal wigeon]

i hope deathmatch comes to eternal

there are mods but they aren't perfect

The network kinda messed up sometimes

[signal willow]

The traduction to spanish is not very good

I think, looking at it on the original English

I'm trying to get the "can't perfect perfection" milestone

@verbal wigeon I tried the master level in ultra nightmare and I only had 3 guns and no crystals, you know why?

[verbal wigeon]

why

[signal willow]

I'm asking

[verbal wigeon]

did you complete all the missions?

[signal willow]

Not yet

[verbal wigeon]

makes sense then

[signal willow]

Rn in sentinel prime

[verbal wigeon]

cool

[signal willow]

Annoying

The 3rd of maybe 5 times that I complete the game

[verbal wigeon]

use the zombies as meathook points and damage the gladiator

that's the best way since the gladiator doesn't take only after flashing green or some random shit like the dark lord

[signal willow]

I don't know how I'm going to complete it in ultra nightmare

[verbal wigeon]

same lmao

[signal willow]

And later the dlc

Both of them

[verbal wigeon]

tag2 is easier and doable

[signal willow]

I want the 133 milestones

Just to presume it

[verbal wigeon]

console?

[signal willow]

Ps4

[verbal wigeon]

ohh.

[signal willow]

It's harder than mouse and keyboard

Changing guns

[verbal wigeon]

tried it using my controller and it's hard af. I am definitely not a console player so yea

[signal willow]

If I had a keyboard I think I already would have completed ultra nightmare

[young mango]

TAG2 ultra nightmare 😛

[verbal wigeon]

haven't tried it yet but will do it sometime later

most of my deaths are again because of my shitty laptop

[young mango]

understandable

[signal willow]

Mine literally doesn't run word or excel

[young mango]

I practiced TAG2 heavily for about 6ish months so it’s very great when somebody mentions it

[verbal wigeon]

dedication right there

[signal willow]

I've only completed it once

Also, a lot of deaths

[young mango]

I can’t say how many times I’ve completed it, but I’ve started it at least 7000 times

[verbal wigeon]

nightmare runs means only very few mistakes

see ya later

bye

[signal willow]

Gn

[nocturne lynx]

Eh. If you’re proficient with weapon wheel swaps it’s a minor difference.

[azure oriole]

As a console player it's like budget Chrono Trigger

[desert scroll]

As a pro console gamer I’m here to talk you that’s it sux but is possible to be real good

[azure oriole]

Gotta be unconditioned to being less bad

[ripe hornet]

going through ||taras nabad|| a second time for secrets, is there no fast travel?

i swear i havent gotten any fast travel options or even "load last checkpoint"s

[azure oriole]

It's at the very end

[young mango]

You’re probably referring to “chronic strike” and I wouldn’t exactly call it budget as it’s a 7.14x slowdown as opposed to a 3.33x slowdown

Man I rmemebrr when I did console I treated that shit like super hot

[azure oriole]

I think I have Super Hot somewhere in my storage

[ripe hornet]

uhhh i think im stuck now, one of the elevators (after the token thing) didnt come back down and now im screwed

[azure oriole]

Did you get the Crucible?

[ripe hornet]

oh wait nvm im dumb

checkpoint at the very end that i wasnt aware of BECAUSE THERES LITERALLY NO OTHER CHECKPOINTS IN THAT HALF OF THE LEVEL

sorry im just kinda miffed because these secrets are so ANNOYING

[azure oriole]

Break statues

[ripe hornet]

FINALLY I HAVE THIS GODFORSAKEN TREASURE HUNTER ACHIEVEMENT

[worldly fable]

Doom eternal

[azure oriole]

Doom Eternal

[visual steeple]

doom eternal.

[tame violet]

yeah

[rancid lichen]

can anyone help me and my friend out with battle mode achievs on steam

[mighty parrot]

guys i downloaded the game today from ms store

when i try to create campaign

i slect difficulty and the thing starts loading

when it reaches 100 percent it says press a to start

when i press A, the game crashes

i tried doing 2 times but still its not working, i even lowered graphics

the defaukt preset selected was high, i set to med. my hardware is gtx 1650, ryzen 5 5600h and 8gb ddr4 ram

someone please help

[floral ledge]

Try closing some other apps since doom eternal needs 8gb ram

Thats probably why

[mighty parrot]

everything is closed

the ram usage is 55%

[floral ledge]

oh

then idk what the problem is sorry

[mighty parrot]

plus my pc can run games heavier than doom like msfs2020, cod mw3 etc

[high sorrel]

It is he that they fear.
Not man or his armies.
They fear the mark of the beast.
(Increase heavy metal music volume)

[mighty parrot]

guys can anyone help me out

[karmic marten]

guys i have a problem so i was collecting all collectibles in doom eternal

but the problem is that i was playing extra life mode

and i missed one codex

is there a command or something i can do to get to it

[azure oriole]

I just beat the game on Nightmare

I also did second phase Icon of Sin first try somehow

[steady ember]

I struggled with the icon on my last playthrough haha

I have opinions about the dlc bosses

And I think this applies to both bosses actually:

The last phase of each should have been cut or drastically altered

In both cases I found the bosses to be pretty great until the last phase

Especially for the dark lord

If you haven’t I would give the DLCs a shot, the first one specifically is really great

[austere bronze]

the entire dark lord should've been drastically altered

[austere bronze]

just redid the tag1 bossfight, and except for the caco phase I really enjoyed it

it wasn't that long either which is a plus in my opinion

[steady ember]

I really dislike the possessed pain elemental and hell knight combo

So many deaths

Wouldn’t even be that bad if I didn’t feel like the last phase was so much harder than the rest of it

[austere bronze]

I approve of it tbh, it promotes movement and you can still deal with everything fast by utilizing your tools

[steady ember]

I found it to be significantly more difficult than anything else in the dlc by a good margin

[austere bronze]

it's a boss fight after all

[steady ember]

And dlc1 is already the hardest part of the game

[austere bronze]

and the final phase

[steady ember]

No but just that phase the rest of the boss is cake

That’s my problem

[austere bronze]

there should've been some respawning heavies to accompany the different phases IMO

and just remove the caco phase

[steady ember]

I really dislike the possessing demons thing, like, I think they’re fine normally because you aren’t forced to engage them

If you want you can clear out every other enemy and then deal with them

But that’s not an option on the boss

Because the damn red makyr guy keeps respawning

And there’s 2

so suddenly for this boss fight the rules of how this enemy works are completely different

kinda baloney, and for the record, I love DLC1 I think its the best part of the game

[austere bronze]

you still have to kill possessed demons when they appear at some point

in the boss fight the only difference is that they're the only enemies

[steady ember]

yeah but the body of the demon you kill doesn't reappear

it isn't set on a timer like that

[austere bronze]

oh, I just killed everything before the maykr had a chance to respawn

[steady ember]

also: definitely was not aware they were resistent to certain ammo types

[austere bronze]

but that makes sense, it's also just free ammo

[steady ember]

the first time

yeah but you gotta wait for them, should have been the white drones

I was also a little disoriented by the arena and teleporters

[austere bronze]

maykr drones would've just been a way to trivialize the encounters

but im not really a fan of blood maykrs either

[steady ember]

I am a fan of all the base game bosses

I think they're all solid

but neither of the DLC bosses do it for me

[austere bronze]

the icon of sin is pretty boring

you just shoot at a wall

[steady ember]

he hasn't been a wall since doom 2

er final doom I guess technically

I quite like the kahn makyr

I like that she limits the space you can move as the fight goes on

[austere bronze]

what was he in eternal then? glorified wall?

[steady ember]

uh, a large creature of some sort

[austere bronze]

the khan maykr was really cool, too bad it's over in 1 minute and is really easy

[steady ember]

it is pretty easy

none of the base game bosses are very difficult, for whatever reason the first phase of the icon killed me a few times on my last playthrough

second phase was first try this time though

I think the doom hunter boss is awesome, not because I think its difficult or anything

but I really like the surprise of being dropped into that second arena

and that he becomes an enemy later

[somber rain]

lol yeah.

locks-on rocket spam, blood punch
headshot makyr drone to replenish ammo
repeat

easiest boss fight

[steady ember]

punching her is really satisfying

[austere bronze]

the DH boss is really good yeah

[steady ember]

the armored baron (don't remember its name) is pretty dope

[austere bronze]

each phase should've had more HP and take a bit less damage from lock-on

[steady ember]

well not the armored baron, that's a different monster lol

[austere bronze]

and give her some more cool and threatening attacks

[steady ember]

the guy with the chain thingy and the shield

[austere bronze]

gladiator

[steady ember]

lol how could I not remember that

[somber rain]

yeah, gladiator is a fun one

[austere bronze]

decrease the amount of maykr drones and add in a few heavies too

[steady ember]

ehhh

idk about the heavies tbh... I'm kinda glad most of the base game bosses are just the monster with fodder

[somber rain]

honestly could be re-worked to be similar to the seraphim fight in a way

[austere bronze]

it's simply there to add another layer of depth, they would be infinitely respawning ofc

[steady ember]

doom's about combat chess, and the game lets you get to know all the monsters before throwing them all together usually, with bosses you don't get that since they are a one time enemy

[somber rain]

maybe some spirits and blood makyrs?

[austere bronze]

and only a few dread knights, mancubi and cacodemons perhaps

[steady ember]

you get to understand all the pieces before they all get thrown at you at once

[austere bronze]

yeah?

[steady ember]

well that's why the doomhunter boss works so well

because its alone, with fodder, then later it gets reused as a normal enemy

then heavies can be thrown in because you know how it works

[somber rain]

pain elementals probably compliment the khan maykr well.

[austere bronze]

yeah the doom hunter boss fights doesn't need additional heavies

they themself is a real enemy, but the khan maykr just kinda floats there and does a attack every once in a while

[steady ember]

my solution would be to make her more aggressive :p

but maybe mancs could work

they're not really too bad to deal with tbh

[austere bronze]

could work

[austere bronze]

i'd want them to be respawning

[steady ember]

I mean, I guess if they were on a timer and there were only like 3-5 out at a time

[austere bronze]

3-5 sounds excessive

[steady ember]

what like you want 2 at a time?

[austere bronze]

have something like 2 mancs, 2 dread knights and 2 cacos

[steady ember]

honestly would probably work

probably wouldn't be that bad

someone could mod that in

[austere bronze]

this+the khan maykr taking less damage from lock-on and having something like 4000 HP per phase instead of 3000

maybe just 1 caco and 1 dread knight

[little fiber]

Was the ||vega being the father|| explained more in the dlc or was that a throw away line in the main game? Haven’t played the dlc yet

[steady ember]

loool

don't expect anything

[little fiber]

Coolio

If it isn’t explained more then I can just ask questions lol ||is Vega actually the father? Or was he just filled with the father’s knowledge when he was connected to the gods system||?

[steady ember]

honestly, I'm not the guy to ask haha

I barely understand the lore at all

[little fiber]

Fair

[slow sigil]

it is more explained

[little fiber]

Well then

I shall play the dlc then lmao

[little fiber]

Literally lore note 3 in the first level and my questions are answered fhfdjdhddjdh

[steady ember]

lol

[little fiber]

||kinda weird to retcon Samuel Hayden as a seraphim when it was stated he was human in the first game but alright||

[steady ember]

my bad

[little fiber]

I like eternal but idk making every human character god connected feels weird lmao

||like doom guy just being a dude that really hates demons is kinda more endearing than him literally being filled with god juice|| imo

[steady ember]

wasn't he already supernatural in 2016?

or super-human rather

[lilac dirge]

Yeah

[steady ember]

a lot of the stuff set up in 2016 kinda gets completely sidelined in eternal

I've never been a total lore head, but I know a number of people that were rather upset with Eternal in that department

[little fiber]

||Tbf it does explain why Samuel knew everything about the doom guys lore lol||

[steady ember]

I thought the implication in 2016 was that hayden was a huge fanboy basically

[little fiber]

I did think his lore dumps were out of nowhere lmao

[steady ember]

like he has statues of you in his office

he would have probably read the demon writings of the slayer

[little fiber]

Oh btw is doom guys lore before he joined the knights explained in the dlc?

Cause timeline wise I don’t fully get it if the first couple games are set before he joined them

[steady ember]

isn't it basically that he is from another dimension?

[little fiber]

That wasn’t said in the main game I don’t think

[steady ember]

the doom universe of the current games is different from the classic ones, which is where he came from

I might be wrong again :p but I remember this

[little fiber]

That’s kinda what I assumed happened after 64 but cool

Idk how he else would go from the future to medieval times still wearing his marine armor lol

[steady ember]

I'm sure we'll get a more clear answer in dark ages

[little fiber]

Yeah prob

[steady ember]

uhhh I think there was still technology and stff when he first joined the knight sentinels

[little fiber]

I do love actually that his og armor is still canon

[steady ember]

the UAC still exists in the dark ages apparently

[slow sigil]

not necessarily a retcon

[little fiber]

The heck

[steady ember]

so I guess the knight sentinels just really liked that aesthetic

[little fiber]

I just thought it was medieval times plus god tech

[slow sigil]

it's not medieval times though, it's the sentinel time

[little fiber]

Like if you went to other parts of the world it would just be normal medieval times

[steady ember]

the quakecon footage allegedly showed the UAC

[little fiber]

Which was when?

[steady ember]

I imagine most of it will be happening off the earth

some time before doom 2016 lol

[little fiber]

💀

[steady ember]

also, I mean, there's straight up a plasma gun in the trailer

[slow sigil]

maybe millions of years ago if the akkadon hunters were only on earth during doomguy's time with the sentinels

"when" is also just kind of irrelevant considering it takes place in a distant solar system

[little fiber]

Damn

Oh I thought it was still on earth

I’ll watch a lore vid after the dlc lmao

[steady ember]

at about 1:35 in the dark ages trailer there is some extremely UAC looking architecture in the background

[slow sigil]

eh aslong as it's from a decent source, iirc most lore places are dogshit that make up things

[little fiber]

Btw what are the chances dark ages will end with doom guy being imprisoned in the sarcophagus from 2016v

[steady ember]

hopefully, good chances

because that is probably the best way to end it, unless they want to make room for another game somewhere in the timeline

[slow sigil]

either that or the entrapment after the betrayel i'd say have a sizeable chance of being the ending

[little fiber]

OH speaking of betrayer

[steady ember]

if its millions of years ago, it kinda makes me wonder how long the UAC has been around in this universe

[slow sigil]

it's 100% an alternate mars if it is indeed the UAC

[little fiber]

In the main game we meet the betrayer who’s just a guy and the icon of sin is noted to be made from the heart of the betrayers son? Is this the same betrayer or are there two characters named the betrayer lol

[slow sigil]

i'm guessing it's the doom3 world

though idk doom3 lore

[little fiber]

I mean probably as long as Hayden

[steady ember]

huh so there will be dimension hopping?

[slow sigil]

did you read the codex entry of the betrayer?

[little fiber]

mayhaps

[slow sigil]

it makes no sense to have a drawn out battle on mars next to a UAC facility otherwise

[little fiber]

Can’t read it in the dlc lol

[steady ember]

its clearly mars and it looks like human architecture

sentinel architecture and makyr architecture is usually pretty easy to spot

[little fiber]

It would be cool way to bring in the dark reboot games lol

[steady ember]

unless its some other faction?

the heavy industrial look with the pipes and stuff

[slow sigil]

dark reboot games?

[steady ember]

idk doom 2016 and doom 3 have a lot in common in terms of visual identity, so it looks like 2016's mars bases to me, but that could also make it doom 3

idk why they would pull that in though

[little fiber]

The early 2000s games

I meant literally visually dark

[steady ember]

Doom 3?

[little fiber]

Probably that one yeah

[steady ember]

lol that's the only one

[little fiber]

Then that one lol

[steady ember]

if they do a doom 3 level in dark ages I want it to have a section where you follow a little spider drone in the dark

that was one of the coolest parts of doom 3

[azure oriole]

Go kill some demons

[austere bronze]

no thanks

[sour kiln]

the doom 3 shotgun goes crazy

[steady ember]

very effective against imps if you jam it in their face the moment they spawn in

[steady ember]

wouldn't they have to change the demon models then?

[waxen quarry]

can I get banned for using CE in master-level?

[little fiber]

CE?

[waxen quarry]

cheat engine

[floral ledge]

Prolly not

[waxen quarry]

good.

[austere bronze]

Why would you even cheat in master levels?

[waxen quarry]

just wanna check something

[fair bear]

Anyone down for battlemode?

[azure oriole]

ps4?

[verbal wigeon]

What are some good doom fanfiction stories?

[azure oriole]

I heard the ancient gods is pretty good

[radiant nexus]

It is

🗣️

[verbal wigeon]

lmao

[floral ledge]

It is

Though its not fan fic

[cloud harness]

Doom 3

[tame compass]

Doom Eternal

[azure oriole]

the new update broke my eternal and now i cant really run it

[azure oriole]

I think TAG would’ve been received better if it was just merged

People will always have something to complain about no matter which way you present it

[austere bronze]

Well yea, but the main problems with tag2 was difficulty and arena design

[azure oriole]

And merging solves this how

[austere bronze]

It doesn't

[azure oriole]

I said “better” it doesn’t solve it brutha

Paying full price for both parts is not worth it

[austere bronze]

It doesn't become better in the slightest, it's still the same arenas

[azure oriole]

Is it too easy or too hard

[azure oriole]

Just buy the year one pass instead

[austere bronze]

Tag1 is good, tag2 is too easy

[azure oriole]

Ultra nightmare runs on part 1 was hard but not too hard but part 2 was way too easy

[austere bronze]

And has arenas where it's basically just fodder spam

[azure oriole]

I’ll never look at tag2 the same way again

[azure oriole]

What’s the difference

[strange gale]

it was certainly bold to make tag2 easier than base game

[azure oriole]

It’s because of the hammer

[austere bronze]

Even without the hammer it's easier than the base game

[azure oriole]

Instead of buying both individually for a total of 40 bucks you can buy the pass for 30

[azure oriole]

I got it on sale so i guess it’s ok

[austere bronze]

And then the hammer is infinite resources on demand

[azure oriole]

Yea it is

[cloud harness]

How long is both dlcs?

[azure oriole]

I spent 1.2h on both dlcs on average

[austere bronze]

You can expect them to be like 3 hours each

Assuming you're playing on a challenging difficulty

[azure oriole]

Oh yea if you look for the collectibles then he’s right

I wish they implemented the same they did in horde mode on holt’s last arena with the totems protected by those eye turrets

[austere bronze]

I mean... 1 hour for a tag1 level is pretty average
Tag2 levels I'm not 100% sure how long they take but I'd asume it's pretty similar because the levels are a bit longer

Or maybe it doesn't have longer levels, I'm not 100% sure tbh

[austere bronze]

We needed totems blocked by stuff/behind orange walls in the base levels

[azure oriole]

Like the 2 archies protected by orange walls in taras ML

That’d have been evil for the base campaign

[austere bronze]

... like the buff totem protected by orange walls 5 minutes earlier

[austere bronze]

An enemy actually being used... the horror

Now you just destroy buff totems immediately and they don't even matter

[azure oriole]

What’s the hp threshold for the 5hp protection anyway?

[austere bronze]

You mean the brink of death mechanic?

[azure oriole]

Yea

[austere bronze]

It works from 21-52 HP iirc

I'm pretty sure about the 21 part, not as sure on 52, but the upper limit is just the same as when you get the low health notification

[azure oriole]

I found myself surviving a caco bite on 20hp and sometimes immediately dying

[austere bronze]

I have no idea how armor plays into this, if it doesn't matter or if the game adds together your armor and health and goes off of that

[azure oriole]

Must be

Fuck hellknights tho

[austere bronze]

This could be useful to know

[austere bronze]

Because of their high FPS lunges?

[azure oriole]

By the time that mechanic kicks in it’s usually because of melee attack so you die instantly

[azure oriole]

Ofc

I loved ssg them in 2016 but in eternal hell no

[austere bronze]

If my aim allowed me to consistently headshot other enemies than tyrants and barons of hell with sticky bombs, I would do pb+sticky bomb headshots to kill them

Now I just do whatever, they have almost 0 HP anyways

[strange gale]

what about global crit state toggling 🌝

[austere bronze]

Unfortunately I know too little about the game to know what that is

[azure oriole]

Wtf is a global crit state toggle

This isn’t tf2

[strange gale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlMwFleIqp4

essentially, through a variety of methods, you can force non-headshot stickies to deal headshot damage anyway

for example, you can pb-sb bodyshot a hell knight and then carry fse over to ballista, which has a splash damage component despite being a hitscan weapon. you can then shoot said hell knight anywhere reasonably close to the head and the ballista splash will turn the sticky into a crit

[austere bronze]

Neat stuff

I do remember you telling me about the ballista thing a few days ago

[cedar hill]

Does anyone else use full auto for the base shotgun often? I’ve been trying to use it more because it seems interesting

[austere bronze]

It's quite bad, but if you want to use it, go ahead

[cedar hill]

I wouldn’t say it’s that bad

[austere bronze]

I would

[cedar hill]

The ammo regain is pretty good in my opinion

[austere bronze]

On a surface level, sure

Shotgun ammo is the ammo type you have the most of and you get 16/24 each chainsaw

Meaning you would have to try and run out of specifically shotgun ammo to have a use for the ammo regain

[cedar hill]

Dang

[cloud harness]

Would rather save it for sticky bombs and ssg

[cedar hill]

Good point

I guess sticky bombs it is then

[austere bronze]

That's nice to hear lol, usually people won't admit anything

[austere bronze]

Yea, doing precision bolt+sticky bomb is quite decent for DPS too

But it will take some practice to get the hang of

[cedar hill]

This might be a stupid question but is that combo affected by fps by any chance?

Everytime I try that combo it has random consistency to it

[austere bronze]

Almost everything is effected by FPS, including weapon swap speed

[cloud harness]

What gun pairs the best with ssg?

[austere bronze]

But unless your FPS drops by a lot extremely often, FPS won't matter

[azure oriole]

im having such a skill issue moment rn

[cedar hill]

Wow I had no idea that was affected too

[austere bronze]

It takes quite some getting used to

[cedar hill]

Thanks I appreciate the info

[azure oriole]

first nightmare run, plus first time trying to fully beat eternal, stuck on CULTIST BASE

[cedar hill]

It’s a fun combo I rlly like it

[austere bronze]

Same here! I really enjoy it, I especially enjoy doing pb, sticky bomb, rocket

Transfering the FSE from sticky bombs to rocket launcher is a nice way to set up punch swaps

[cloud harness]

FSE?

[austere bronze]

Fast swap effect

[cloud harness]

Oh

[austere bronze]

It's what makes pb+rocket and pb+sticky bomb combos so fast

You can activate it many ways, but the most popular method is simply firing a pb shot

[azure oriole]

Most Realistic eternal gameplay

[azure oriole]

i havent blinked

in 30 minutes

i did it

[glass trellis]

fr

[frank drum]

why arbalest is so ass

[austere bronze]

it's not

but destroyer blade is just way better

hard to compete when your counterpart is one of the best mods in the game🙄

[young mango]

if only arbalest was obsolete in such a way where it’s existence actually contributed to making dblade even better…😛

[austere bronze]

that would sure be something...

imagine if that was real

[young mango]

seriously no other weapon in the game has the jank that ballista has

[austere bronze]

yeah

btw, how does fblade work?

and more particularly: how do you do it without having to hit an enemy with the arbalest?

[stiff shadow]

sticky bombs but uses more ammo

[frank drum]

need more damage

[austere bronze]

what needs more damage?

[frank drum]

arbalest

and no zoom

[austere bronze]

it does not need more damage, destroyer blade needs less damage however

[frank drum]

nah

use arbalest against ground enemies feels really off

no enough damage

or maybe faster reload

[austere bronze]

it deals 1600 damage and 1200 of that is splash

1 rocket launcher shot deals 900 damage with 600 splash

[frank drum]

i see, but for killing a mancubuss i need like 3 shoots

or something

[austere bronze]

unless you're quick switching, arbalest is frequently good to use
and even when you're quick switching, it's good

[frank drum]

i think mancubus get stagger by 3 shoots maybe

[austere bronze]

my bad, it deals decreased damage towards ground units

but, I quick switch and usually don't use destroyer blade and still manage to find very good value in arbalest

And yeah, it is primarily used against flying targets

[frank drum]

theres only 2 flying enemies

🛌

[austere bronze]

That isn't really relevant, what if those enemies were the only enemies used in the entire game?

Since there are fewer flying enemies, they are used more often

[frank drum]

well

revenant counts as flying enemie?

[austere bronze]

No

[young mango]

I wouldn’t say I’m super versed in the how, but I just know that it DOES work for the most part, that may be the case for everybody else who uses it as well, I wouldn’t know, but here’s the gist of what I know, basically by doing combo swap chain shenanigans, either requiring you to maintain a cycle of FSE, weapon switching, and mod swap cancelling, the mod swap cancelling is a necessity for the process and must be executed at least once in the process, and outside of that, regular mod swapping cannot be done or the chain will be broken, when the arbalest is fired it stores its instant salvo in a sort of fucked up way detached from the prerequisite of needing to continually fire it, and when you switch to dblade, this effect is maintained, boosting its charge speed to be identical to arbalest, and as for the sticky bombs and rockets, the game just kind of says “yeah that’s good enough, that’s an arbalest” when a direct hit lands during an arbalest charge, but of course the combo swap chain criteria still need to be met

[austere bronze]

And when I've done all this, I can just switch to dblade and it'll charge fast?

[young mango]

pretty much, but for arbalest its direct hit is not what’s read, the detonation is, and if it’s an enemy with a low enough health value to where it passes through, then it almost immediately counts it

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/l5Rjde5j4Is?si=LijqKTfkqOhnm8ZN

DrakePHOSE goes far more in depth

[austere bronze]

Thanks Tammie

[frank drum]

Why is there a cooldown right after shooting a sticky bomb before you can punch or change weapons?

is so ass man

[young mango]

even though there are ways to counteract this, looking at it from an outside perspective is so baffling, like the other weapons such a thing can occur with are heavy hitters, and the delay acts kind of as a trade off, I guess, but 400 damage a pop isn’t exactly anything worth adding a penalty to

[frank drum]

yeah and the fact that the id studio doesn't work for me is so ass too, because getting rid of this restriction is the first thing I would do.

[frank drum]

maybe they did it so that it isn't as noticeable that shooting with another weapon nullifies critical hits with the stickies.

[young mango]

like I said, still ways to counteract it, but it doesn’t make it a better game mechanic as a result

[frank drum]

what ways? i only know fast state

[young mango]

also wdym, other weapons don’t nullify critical hits, if anything hitting with other weapons can actually GRANT crits

[young mango]

that, and the ability to mod swap cancel to another weapon

[frank drum]

i mean more like override it, if you just shoot a normal shoot this override the crit

[cloud harness]

Just beat eternal

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-chopper-its-peak-peak-fiction-chopper-crying-gif-26935486

[azure oriole]

Beat TAG 1 on PC, and as a noob PC player, that was f&@%ing awesome.

[azure oriole]

Well done, Thunder!

[azure oriole]

Best FPS ever created

Amen to that, Jesus.

especially with the new mod support the game still has so much potential

[violet zealot]

Second best imo. Best goes to Doom 1 personally.

But yes, Eternal was peak af.

[azure oriole]

cant argue there because doom 1 stepped so eternal could run

I just beat doom 1 again a week ago and it still holds up

I also have a huge appreciation for Doom Eternal because when quarantine started the game just came out and was probably one of the few good things to come out of 2020

[azure oriole]

Thank jesus

[kindred olive]

sup

how do i beat escalation encounter reclaimed earth?? i watched some yt videos but i think they changed the monsters or smth

need help 🥲

[frank drum]

i just rollback the game just before the last update, i cant continue playin this without my mods

also playing with mods adds a "connecting" load is so ass

[serene stone]

Best is DOOM II with WADs/mods, lessa be fo real

[young mango]

yeah that is a pretty stupid feature

“hey it’s incapable of connecting to internet but it still tries to, which doesn’t happen with a firewall or offline mode”

[strange gale]

look at my network engineer dawg

[cloud harness]

nah bro clearly doom rpg was best

[azure oriole]

Nah

You shoot demons and doomguy happy

[fervent zephyr]

Hi, my game just crashed after I broke a soldier's shield, and this is the SECOND time the game has crashed after trying to load an effect. I think the problem is something to do with how many effects... are... cached? Or something? I'm not sure. A similar problem occurred in Spider-Man (PS4)... the steam version... a while ago, and lowering my graphics settings was a temporary fix. I'd like to know if there's any way to prevent this from happening again

[frank drum]

hope the mods "Neo no hub no camera no intro" and "Doom Eternal Advanced Options" get ported soon, absolutely must mods

[frank drum]

what gpu you have?

[fervent zephyr]

i'm not sure how to check that but my computer is very good

3070 graphics card (i think? that's what i remember at least)

[violet zealot]

you can check in System Info

[frank drum]

well your gpu isnt the problem

[fervent zephyr]

i have 5 MB of DirectX shader cache if that means anything

yeah idk what else the problem could be, the game's Temp folder was empty, and i just found a crashlog but i haven't tried reading it. i'll look at that now

it is heavily encrypted

downloading a .dmp reader

yeah this isn't working

[mortal tangle]

Where are my Combat Shotgun lovers?

[young mango]

nowhere

[somber rain]

only if it has full auto

[mortal tangle]

You don’t like the Sticky Bombs?

[somber rain]

I like doing precision bolt + sticky bombs at times.

But really, I only switch to the mod when I want to do that quick switch combo. Otherwise, I've been enjoying just weakening enemies to the point that I can full auto them and replenish my shotgun ammo

also caco's of course

but sometimes I just ballista them

[devout atlas]

Precision bolt kaboom

Also Cacodemons feel ungodly tanky

[mortal tangle]

Yeah I get that

What are your favorite levels?

[violet zealot]

SGN

my absolute favorite level

[mortal tangle]

That one’s great

[violet zealot]

A level I don't really like however is ARC

[mortal tangle]

I personally love Cultist Base and BFG10K
(Master levels)

[violet zealot]

I fuckin' love base Mars Core

[uncut creek]

Final Sin is peak

best fights

[mortal tangle]

AGREED

[somber rain]

Base - Mars Core

AG1 - Hard to choose between UAC Atlantica and Blood Swamps

AG2 - Reclaimed Earth

[violet zealot]

I really don't care for Final Sin

[cloud harness]

My top 3:
Doom Hunter Nest
Urdak
Final Sin
Honorable mention to cultist base for its environment
Love me some snowy/winter levels

[violet zealot]

UAC Alantica for it's OST

I loved the look of Reclaimed Earth

[uncut creek]

I love the look of every level

[mortal tangle]

I haven’t played the dlc yet

[somber rain]

Yeah pretty much lol. I do like being in the middle of the ocean tho.

[violet zealot]

Urdak's my favorite in looks

[mortal tangle]

I lost my console a while back. And I haven’t been able to get another one since

[violet zealot]

I actually don't know what my favorite song from Eternal is

[uncut creek]

super gore nest has the best color palette

[mortal tangle]

Blood Swamps is absolutely amazing

[somber rain]

It is

[violet zealot]

my favorites are SGN, UAC Alantica, the second to final level in TAG2 (I forgot the name), and Cultist Base

I only know my favorite song from 2016

[mortal tangle]

I’m actually listening to it right now

[cloud harness]

Yalls opinions on eternal icon of sin fight?

[somber rain]

It's ok

Better than a wall texture

[violet zealot]

eh

[mortal tangle]

I enjoyed it, I really liked all the side enemies in it

[violet zealot]

it's ok

[uncut creek]

the second phase is much better than the first

[somber rain]

Gladiator is probably my only favorite boss fight. At least seraphim is hard too.

[violet zealot]

I hate it mainly because the boss does not feel responsive to damage at all

[cloud harness]

I think I liked the build up throughout the level more than the actual fight lol
Environment is great

Not bad tho imo

[azure oriole]

Great way to finish off the game I love the fight first phase is a little bit wild with the hit boxes though

[somber rain]

Doom 2016 boss fights felt more better to me overall.

[violet zealot]

yeah, I much prefer Final Sin as a level than it is a fight

[violet zealot]

agreed, except the Hell Guards or whatever

[mortal tangle]

Oh crap, Jesus has entered the chat

[violet zealot]

still to this day they kill me 200 times

[somber rain]

Yeah hell guards are meh

[cloud harness]

Hell guards were ass

[somber rain]

Wish it was some sort of bruiser brothers remake lol

[azure oriole]

probably the best in the main game on ultra nightmare im terrified of him

[somber rain]

Which reminds me...I need to work on messing with the gladiator biped model so it's like fighting a super baron. 👀

[cloud harness]

I remember when I got to spider mastermind in 2016 I just ended up switching to Im too young to die after a few deaths 💀 cause I just wanted to beat the game

[somber rain]

I still need to beat 2016 on UN.

[mortal tangle]

I accidentally beat the game on Nightmare the first time

[azure oriole]

I dont remember the 2016 bosses being that hard I guess i remember wrong

[somber rain]

Only have 80 hours into the game.

[cloud harness]

I was playing on hurt me plently too lol

[azure oriole]

I also played it after eternal though so i had the quick switch technique

[somber rain]

And then I realized falls = death and you have no air control.

I can't recall if there's a ruin for that

[cloud harness]

Theres an air rune yeah like eternals

[somber rain]

Oh cool. Yeah...falling to my death wasn't cool on UN lol

[azure oriole]

honestly doom 2016 on ultra nightmare might be harder because im such a dumbass i know i would fall off near the end

[somber rain]

At least eternal is forgiving

[violet zealot]

DAMN

[cloud harness]

Extra lives be like:

[somber rain]

Kinda weird you can't turn off extra lives on regular nightmare

[uncut creek]

one time I fell off the final map of doom 2016 by clipping through the ground after a glory kill on UN

[violet zealot]

same here

[somber rain]

Then again I guess you can just reset checkpoint

[young mango]

glory kill clips a certified hood classic

[azure oriole]

Damn bro thats painful as shit

[cloud harness]

Ill probably replay 2016 soon to see how it feels after beating eternal

[mortal tangle]

My brother switched the difficulty right before I started the file. After the first couple levels I checked and i saw it was on the hardest difficulty. But I still wanted to get the trophy, so I stuck with it

[somber rain]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-death-gif-23505693

[azure oriole]

closest i got to that is one time i died on taras nabad on un on eternal

[violet zealot]

lmao

you're epic ngl

[mortal tangle]

It was so painful

That twin boss gave me the most trouble

[cloud harness]

I think this game might be the terminator 2 of the franchise

[azure oriole]

terminator 2 was sick

[cloud harness]

How do you guys feel about battlemode compared to the 2016 mp?

[mortal tangle]

I never got a chance to play 2016 multiplayer, but I actually do enjoy Battlemode. I thought it was a lot of fun

[azure oriole]

I was playing battlemode again recently and honestly i went from a hater to liking it

Doom 2016 mp was an interesting experience and i had alot of fun.

the only thing i dislike about eternal is a few of the milestones like hit 10 enemies directly with bfg and a few others

[rough kiln]

Hello fellow Slayers, I don't know how to play online and I'm wanting to try my hand at other people because I think I'm decent. I've only ever played Doom offline

[azure oriole]

Yo whats good blue balls

[rough kiln]

Uh.... Greetings Jesus

[azure oriole]

You will probably have better response on the slayers club channel i think

[violet zealot]

I doubt it and it'd be off-topic there

[rough kiln]

Alrighty, thanks

[azure oriole]

really I thought that was for battlemode mostly

oh shit i forgot slayers club isnt apart of the spicy demons thing

[untold root]

I finally got the doomicorn master collection but haven't gotten around to saving it to my phone yet so when I do I'll post the screen shot in the screen shot channel

[tardy pier]

oh (dark)lord, I love doomicorn

Top 3 skins, up there with the patriotic🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 and 2016

[azure oriole]

too goofy for me

and i hate politics

[golden osprey]

fun fact: if you live in hungary, austria, slovakia, or poland, you live in the Super Gore Nest from Doom Eternal because it is located "somewhere in Central Europe"

[young mango]

there’s actually an in game map of it when your mission objective pops up in the fortress of doom, and it’s more debatably in Italy/croatia

[golden osprey]

i went to croatia once

does that mean i visited the super gore nest

[young mango]

maybe

[azure oriole]

By goofy i mean doomicorn

Not just usa every game i love just been ruined or downplayed because of politics

Fucking representing black people in an african country is somehow racist

[steady ember]

My favorite skin is either default or the classic skin

Doom 2 skin is funny, ranger is cool too

Also what the hell are you talking about

[deep parcel]

The marauder is immune to the BFG if he's shielding.

I prefer to play with a controller and it's damn near impossible to fight the marauder without losing it because he's just too fast

[exotic coyote]

hi guys

[deep parcel]

I can't even keep him at mid range because he keeps dashing up to me and blasting me in the face

[exotic coyote]

wait just try keybored

[deep parcel]

I do, it's just an annoyance to have to keep switching

Plus, console players don't always have that luxury

[dreamy bay]

Ever played the UAC water facility level on ancient gods?

[fringe torrent]

KBM isn't supported for Eternal last time I checked

[dreamy bay]

You fight like 4 marauders throughout that level it’s insane

[deep parcel]

Not yet, I only just got the DLC when it was on sale a while ago and I've been replaying the game before I play it

[deep parcel]

Oof

I could switch to an easier difficulty but my sweaty gamer brain refuses to play on anything other than ultra-violence

[fringe torrent]

If you can't handle Marauders why are you on UV

[dreamy bay]

Being a completionist is great

[deep parcel]

Because every other enemy becomes too easy

It's just the marauder that's a bitch to kill

[dreamy bay]

I honestly have more of a trouble with the smaller enemies on UV

so many of them

[deep parcel]

His stun window just doesn't register sometimes

[fringe torrent]

It has to be a high enough damage source, what weapon are you using

[dreamy bay]

Ever tried the super shotgun ballista combo

Takes him out pretty quick

[deep parcel]

Lmao, that's why my shotgun always gets used as a glorified grenade launcher

[young mango]

no sorry never played it I never played ancient gods ever Infact I don’t even know what that is

[deep parcel]

Shotgun/super shotgun

[azure oriole]

Heyo

[fringe torrent]

As Matt said, try Ballista + SSG

[azure oriole]

Nooooo

[dreamy bay]

DLC level on doom eternal

[azure oriole]

Why you suggest him that it's bad

[young mango]

hahaha I know I’m fucking with you

[deep parcel]

I'll give it a shot

[azure oriole]

Just pb ballista the marauder

Ssg is wasted on him it's only 800 damage

1600 point blank

[fringe torrent]

Middle ground is Ballista, so always keep that one on hand

When dealing with Marauders, of course

[deep parcel]

There's also the issue of ammo

[azure oriole]

😵‍💫

[austere bronze]

Yea I think ballista and ssg caps out at the same damage against the marauder lol

[azure oriole]

Ballista deals 875

But seriously why you suggest fucking ssg ballista @fringe torrent

That is so bad ammo wise

And damage wise too against marauder

[deep parcel]

If I had to guess, less start and end lag on the ssg

[dreamy bay]

Not at all in fact most of the time I can hit ssg ballista twice before he puts his guard up again

[young mango]

750 yes, you’d only be missing out on 350 by doing pb ballista

[azure oriole]

Even pb Rocket Is Better on the marauder than ssg ballista 😭

[fringe torrent]

Can you cut the profanity? I suggested something bad, got told it's bad, didn't suggest it again. I'm not some sort of god at this game. I'm allowed to say something stupid that isn't 100% the right strat and be corrected

[azure oriole]

Whomp

[deep parcel]

Chill, I don't think he meant it seriously

[azure oriole]

I didn't but you miss the point

[young mango]

we can do hyperboles but that right there isn’t necessarily correct, it is far easier to two cycle with ssg ballista than it is with pb rocket

[azure oriole]

And why take it so personally either way

[azure oriole]

Pb Rocket Is 1300 so its like 4 cycles and is more ammo efficient. Ssg ballista is 1600 if you hit all the pellets on the marauder with ssg

[fringe torrent]

I'm still half-awake, didn't register that as sarcasm, sorry about that. But I have seen people here get mad at worse things so you can't really blame me, can you

[azure oriole]

Dw you are cool

[dreamy bay]

Well I completed the game on UV using that combo so I’ll say it was efficient

[azure oriole]

[deep parcel]

Could I potentially freeze the marauder

I've never tried

[azure oriole]

Naw

He is immune to freeze and remote detonation falter

[deep parcel]

Omg that's so dumb

[fringe torrent]

If he can survive a BFG shot I think it makes sense he can survive that

[azure oriole]

Wait to deal with tag2 enemies

[deep parcel]

I thought about maybe stunning him first

[azure oriole]

He is not immune to grandes tho

[fringe torrent]

Kind of a wasted BFG shot anyway

[dreamy bay]

Wait until you fight two at the same time that’s fun

[deep parcel]

I've had to already

In one of the slayer gates

[azure oriole]

I fought 7 buffed totem marauders in unreclaimed earth with no air control, it was lame...

[austere bronze]

6

[azure oriole]

It was mainly an AOE spam and jump pad abuse

[dreamy bay]

Asuras wrath

[azure oriole]

Okay you got me there....

[young mango]

1100 for marauder, it has a multitude of resistances, as opposed to 1500 with ssg ballista given all pellets hit, which may not sound like a lot, but it’s an extra pb shots worth per quick switch rotation. but it’s very much possible to squeeze 3 of these into a cycle, so we’re seeing 1400 vs 2250, a whole 860 difference, of course pb rocket has the advantage of being faster with the trade off of less DPS but that still puts it at 2000 vs 2250 with most optimal execution, with two cycles that’d only be 4000 damage on the pb rocket, still 500 short of his stagger, meaning you’d have to squeeze a bit more in there than you’d expect, and correct me if I’m wrong, but last time I playtested such a thing, but it’s far less consistent than the counterpart you’re comparing it to, ssg ballista

[azure oriole]

Gotcha

[dreamy bay]

I’m high asf

[deep parcel]

Okay wait wtf the ballista/ssg combo actually rocks

[austere bronze]

But tbf, a buff totem respawns every 10 seconds
The encounter is a pain

[azure oriole]

We lost him

[deep parcel]

I think it's the timing

[azure oriole]

I didn't break it though

[dreamy bay]

I showed my girlfriend it now we’re married

[austere bronze]

Yea, it's barely worth it, if even at all

[azure oriole]

I also did tormented earth spirit totem encounter honor bound without breaking the totem

It was... A very special experience

[dreamy bay]

Pro gamer

[young mango]

the way I see it is, it doubles as an accessible restack as well as a temporary reprieve from the arenas full intensity

[austere bronze]

I've played around with that encoubter so much, it's definitely my favorite encounter from tormented earth

[azure oriole]

I have to ask bunny to import it on the portal

[austere bronze]

When it gets ported I'll play it some more

[austere bronze]

Ye

The level is CBT BS, but it's still fun to do sometimes

[dreamy bay]

Would love a better feature than snapmaps from 2016

Like player created levels would be dope

[young mango]

who’s gonna tell him

[dreamy bay]

Not modded

[austere bronze]

...

[dreamy bay]

On console

[austere bronze]

The official mod tools are way better than snapmap

[fringe torrent]

I need SnapMap back as an alternative to whatever people are using to make Eternal levels, it was fun and simple and on console

Not saying the new one is not fun, I haven't used it, but SnapMap returning sometime would be nice

[young mango]

If I knew how to mod stuff I’d try to do some crazy shit

[fringe torrent]

I could definitely see it releasing for whatever the next DOOM classic remaster will be, there's been a new one every console generation since the original Xbox

[young mango]

but I’m not even gonna try. one hilariously comedic encounter I had with a friend of mine once left a bad taste in my mouth

[dreamy bay]

Yeah probably but PlayStation doesn’t have that

[austere bronze]

Honor bound+only rune used is savagery, no flame belch and no equipment launcher
Only real way to play

[fringe torrent]

I could care less about actually making maps in it, more getting to play them

[dreamy bay]

Same

Most played maps and such

[fringe torrent]

-# Is it could care less or couldn't care less?

[dreamy bay]

It’s used the same way

I don’t think we have any grammar police in chat so you’re fine

[austere bronze]

And no rocket launcher mods at all

[young mango]

Negligible. Couldn’t care less implies you care so little that it’s infeasible to care less. Could care less implies your ambivalence towards it is to the point where it could grow stronger

[dreamy bay]

Could care less could mean idgaf tho

[azure oriole]

I honestly started using air control again and the game is more enjoyable after all what I learnt from playing honor bound

[fringe torrent]

So you don't have to care about it

[dreamy bay]

used in that term most of the time

[austere bronze]

I used it in unbalanced bob-omb battlefield UN runs, but that's it

I still have a lot to learn about no air control

For example: I can't do single daahes while quick switching

[azure oriole]

I can teach you the way

Also I can teach you my own tech for movement

If you can vc in like 15 minutes

[austere bronze]

I am currently in school lol

Otherwise I would

[azure oriole]

Bruh

[dreamy bay]

Imagine

[young mango]

school is temporary, ruining your academic life for becoming better at a video game is eternal

[azure oriole]

Ironically I'm getting a job soon

So idk if I will be playing that much still

[austere bronze]

Yes🔥

[fringe torrent]

But the longer the M1 is in school, the smarter he becomes!!!

[dreamy bay]

Buy all the doom Merch

[azure oriole]

I have to buy a driving license course first so I can drive to quakecon

[austere bronze]

Naw man, biology is so boring😭

[azure oriole]

Over the sea of course cause I'm Italian

[austere bronze]

Drive over the ocean🔥

[azure oriole]

It is one of the best wdym

Everything is interesting is just the professor's job to make it appealing and not lame

[austere bronze]

No, you just sit there and take notes, and you actually almost have to pay attention to get a good grade

[dreamy bay]

Drive illegally, if you get pulled over tell the officer you’re late for quakecon

[young mango]

whatever time it is for m1 right now I promise it’s never that serious, had us waking up at 5:30am just to learn about the phases of the moon or sumshit

[azure oriole]

I really want to meet sav murican and the other guys at quakecon

But I'm poor as hell

[austere bronze]

5:30??😭😭

Only thing that can physically make me wake up that early is peak fishing weather

[dreamy bay]

Wake up at 5:30 am to learn about parabolas, I have never had to use a calc formula on anything in life yet

[austere bronze]

By the sounds of it, even more of the guys will be there next year

[dreamy bay]

do psychedelics and go to quakecon I should

[austere bronze]

Wise words

[glass trellis]

And Czech republic?

[slow sigil]

extra fun fact: the blip vega shows on the map isn't that close to those locations (except slovakia and austria)

[azure oriole]

Nah

I shoot demons

[royal arch]

hot take: sentinel hammer is the best super weapon

[austere bronze]

Absolutely

Per usage it isn't, but you can charge it so easy it's ridiculous

[azure oriole]

That’s not a hot take that’s a fact

Full armor hp and ammo from 3+ enemies is easy af

[austere bronze]

So often people say "hot take" and then just state the most generic and generally agreed upon thing ever

[azure oriole]

How about unmaykr is underrated lmao

[austere bronze]

Never seen anyone put "hot take" before that tbh

And it doesn't change my point

[fringe torrent]

I did that once but it was for an ACTUAL hot take

[slow sigil]

not really a hot take if it's just simply incorrect though

[royal arch]

im 95% of those mfs
i just put “hot take” cause i dont trust myself

[royal arch]

unmaykr needs a rework

[azure oriole]

I feel like the devs just got really stubborn about not making the Unmaykr “overpowered” and never did anything to improve it because of that

Just going off of what I heard Hugo say they didn’t seem receptive to the criticism because they didn’t want it to be a click fire and you win type of weapon

[azure oriole]

Hot take: I really like Doom

[azure oriole]

they didn’t want it to be a click fire and you win type of weapon
Like the BFG?

[austere bronze]

Lmao, precisely this

[azure oriole]

I prefer the Unmaykr because it's an actual super weapon and not a "press to skip wave" button. Fuck Eternal's BFG.

[azure oriole]

Yeah

IMO the Unmaykr should've been the normal weapon and maybe you unlock the BFG through the Slayer Keys instead of how it is now.

But I think they overcompensated by not doing anything to improve it and actually making it worse against some enemy types apparently

[fringe torrent]

Like in DOOM I and II?

Pretty sure for DOOM II you only get it handed at like M30 or in the late game in general

[azure oriole]

Would have made more sense

Though I imagine a lot of people would complain if they could go the entire game without finding the BFG

Since it’s such a staple

[austere bronze]

The BFG should've been worse snd the unmaykr better and more interesting

[azure oriole]

Honestly the BFG should’ve had a charge up feature like the Doom 3 version

Perhaps have it immobilize you so the slayer couldn’t jump while using it

[slow sigil]

the fundamental design of the unmaykr is uninteresting though so that would require esentionally a new weapon

[austere bronze]

The fundamental design of any super weapon is uninteresting

[azure oriole]

Something to hinder the player so it isn’t just a weapon you can use unpunished

[austere bronze]

But people like it... somehow

[azure oriole]

But obviously still devastating

[austere bronze]

Yeah, not the dblade 2.0

[slow sigil]

the BFG atleast has a tender more thought in it then "shoot fast near you"

[azure oriole]

Because it’s enjoyable seeing a big powerful gun blow shit up

[fringe torrent]

Gives off strong "Half-Life 2 is a GMod mod" vibes

[slow sigil]

bfg wipes waves... but atleast you either need to shoot it at a clumped together part of the enemies or need a lil bit of room to have the tendrils hit demons

[azure oriole]

See but the BFG is good in those games and not actually overpowered. You have to use it strategically and you can't just toss it out. You have to know how it works or you'll end up wasting your ammo.

[austere bronze]

People always talk about the power fantasy and it being so good that you have to think and stuff to succeed, but then they also swear by the BFG

[fringe torrent]

I was referring to the fact you actually have to bother finding it in those games, but it is also a lot more strategic there yeah

[austere bronze]

I don't understand this message

[austere bronze]

True

[fringe torrent]

Good, let it rest in your mind for a while

[austere bronze]

No thanks, my mind will not "be full of AnomeQ"🙅‍♂️

[azure oriole]

I think most people just see the BFG as the obligatory op weapon that fucks shit up so it’s never really criticized because of that. It fulfills the visual spectacle aspect pretty well still so most people won’t care and honestly I don’t blame them.

[fringe torrent]

You reference that hideous message every week

[austere bronze]

Yup, it's my daily reminder to you

Reminding you of all the weird stuff, you're welcome

[fringe torrent]

That's going off-topic, but anywho, I don't really care if the BFG is balanaced or not, but it would be way more fun if it was like the old games and DOOM 3; strategic

[austere bronze]

I don't care that much about how balanced it is, but I want it to be more than a "click button, weapon go boom, demons go bye bye" weapon

[fringe torrent]

That is how every weapon works though

They're just not all strong enough to kill EVERY demon

Neither is the BFG though

[austere bronze]

No, because they don't deal 6000 DPS to 20 enemies

[azure oriole]

IMO if they scrapped the BFG and then kept the laser function from the original version it'd be better. My ideal Unmaykr would be lasers and the lasers would pierce enemies, making it worthwhile as a crowd control weapon.

[fringe torrent]

Yes that was the funny part of my message

[azure oriole]

I don't think the Unmaykr is the weapon that's uninteresting - it would be fine in a game that doesn't have not just one, but two "press to skip obstacle" weapons.

[azure oriole]

Does anyone how to get that cool skin for the dread knight that’s red

[magic citrus]

Mayby from the online mode if u get a winning strek on 8
i remembered there was a skin for him

[coral ivy]

I just figured our that I'm supposed to have a Makyr Slayer

I can unlock Aurum(fully gold version)
but not the base makyr slayer, Hm

[azure oriole]

Aight thanks bro

[magic citrus]

Np👍

[magic citrus]

winning strek for demon btw

[magic citrus]

do u mean the maker skin from the dlc ?

[coral ivy]

Yup

I ain't complaining at all, just confused

[magic citrus]

and the gold one is from the nightmare mode ?

[coral ivy]

I believe yes, beating Part one of the dlc on UN unlocks it

[magic citrus]

and u dont get the normal yellow withe one ?

[coral ivy]

Not that I know of

[azure oriole]

You should just get it for having dlc

Like automatically did you just buy it?

[coral ivy]

I know that now

But I bought deluxe edition for shits and giggles, and it was cheaper

[magic citrus]

normaly u get this one first for buing the first DLC and for playing u unlock the i think it was called dark angel (this is red black )

[azure oriole]

Oh then you definitely should have it

[coral ivy]

Yea, found that out

But I don't have me proof of purchase anymore because it was over a year ago

[azure oriole]

You try restarting the game

[coral ivy]

Yup

[azure oriole]

Oh it was a year ago damn

[coral ivy]

I tried to reconcile entitlements as well

[azure oriole]

Doom eternal is a very glitchy game

[coral ivy]

Like i said, not complaining, just confused

So its a meh, situation

[magic citrus]

i bored the doom unycorn skin and i had to restart the game to get it

[azure oriole]

That is confusing I seriously doubt your doing anything wrong I mean you got the deluxe edition you got the playable dlc but not the skin

[azure oriole]

That happened to me with the zombie slayer for slayers club

But he’s had it for like a year and not got it

But it’s not the best skin in the game it’s just a Meh skin like he said

[coral ivy]

Oh I love the skin, I just couldn't care, it just looks cool, no real need for it

[azure oriole]

Oh

[magic citrus]

this dark angel skin is like lava i like this one

[uneven turtle]

i assume i should ignore slayer gates in ultra nightmare?

[magic citrus]

those anyone finished the nigthmare mode for the normal story on console ?

[azure oriole]

Did the nerf marauder in battle mode or sun

Sum

[frank drum]

you can get 3 sweet weapon points betean them

[visual steeple]

yes

[austere bronze]

🗣️
You're just just lurking here huh

[visual steeple]

no

[austere bronze]

Fake

[visual steeple]

no

does m1 stand for maidenless 1

rekt

[austere bronze]

Well no

But it isn't inaccurate

I am a doom eternal player after all

[visual steeple]

also speedrunner -1000 aura

[azure oriole]

So true

[eternal halo]

I'd think that the risk/reward isn't worth it

[azure oriole]

Doesn’t main mobile turret so -100000 aura

[austere bronze]

I am not a speedrunner tho

[austere bronze]

Mobile turret is so boring

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-x-kong-king-kong-punch-knockout-monkey-apex-gif-8198598115822855198

[slow sigil]

mobile turret is both boring and doesn't even look cool

[azure oriole]

Gonna be serious for a second and just say that’s an insane take

Chaingun with 3 barrels rocks unironically

Literally only reason to use it is because of that

[slow sigil]

meh not if it's just "shoot fast" with so many alternatives

[slow sigil]

which is a very boring reason if you have alternatives like "shotgun with a grapple hook", "giant lacer slicer", "godmode", "explosive rocket burst"

[austere bronze]

No, it's quite a normal take

[slow sigil]

"gun but shoots faster"is such a.... mundane option

[azure oriole]

I’m obviously referring to the 3 separating chaingun barrels

Haven’t seen anyone say that’s boring visually lol

[slow sigil]

more barrels =/= cooler

[azure oriole]

Remove the line there and you’d be spittin

[austere bronze]

You want a 10 barrel gun?
Fun...

[slow sigil]

no? i genuinely can't think that simply having more barrel spam would make something actually cooler if there are so many other options

[cloud harness]

cause it good

[azure oriole]

Don’t know why you guys struggle so much to grasp why someone would find it appealing but for a lot of people a tri/quad barrel machine gun that separates into single barrels to simultaneously shred enemies when you use it is just inherently appealing, even if that’s its only real merit compared to other weapons and mods.

[young mango]

the fact that you aren’t saying 4 barrels tells me your yourself probably do not use it very often

[austere bronze]

I was just thinking about this