doom-eternal

[azure oriole]

i guess you didn't even play world spear ultra nightmare...

if you apply your "concepts" to that master level you're not gonna go that far

same for any offwine or delta or saleem master level

even well done slaughter maps, there one mistake and you die

you gotta perfectly time bunny hops into ballista boosting for dbalde which is hard af

[strange gale]

you're really overselling "perfect timing" here

yea i guess it's hard if you spacebar lurch hop, but with scroll wheel that shit is free

[serene stone]

Health and armor drops are also comically way too damn high in Eternal

[azure oriole]

i am not, the game mechanics revolves around your frame rate, so is quite hard if you play over 60-120fps

[strange gale]

the timing gets more lenient at higher fps, i don't think you know what you're talking about

all you're looking to do is convert the lurch that happens every time you land into horizontal speed, ie jump slightly after landing

at high fps you get more frames on which a scroll input can be registered, therefore a lurch is easier to convert

[azure oriole]

you are considering players who play with macro though

[strange gale]

???

[azure oriole]

triggered moment xd

[strange gale]

i don't have a free scroll nor do i use the macro, it's still free

[azure oriole]

to each his own, i don't use scroll wheel

[strange gale]

then why didn't you say that before any of this

[azure oriole]

i thought you were talking about space bar xd

[strange gale]

spacebar lurch hoppers are a minority

you are delusional

[azure oriole]

why am i delusional now for enjoying the game the hard way?

[strange gale]

you went into this conversation without defining these preexisting assumptions when the default you'll see throughout the community is scroll hopping

[azure oriole]

and why would i be delusional now?

[strange gale]

i'm not going to argue about preferences because that's pointless, but this whole time you were under the assumption we were talking about space bar hopping when that's very much not the default

[azure oriole]

and why would i be delusion for that i'm asking xD

dude you are so aggressive for no reason

[strange gale]

didn't you just say all this?

[azure oriole]

and?

[strange gale]

that's a whole bunch of assumptions you made about me for no reason

[azure oriole]

😮‍💨

[strange gale]

i win by clicking mouse2 because everything else involved in playing vanilla content is conceptually more or less on the same level, ie not very complicated and so i don't need to think about anything beyond clicking one button

at the end of the day, pve with movement mechanics this busted is always going to be hilariously unbalanced because the ai can't adapt to what you’re doing, that's a distinctly human ability

[azure oriole]

i guess that's why svs exists

[serene stone]

It breaks my heart seeing Kiryu fight a Cacodemon, considering I'm a Caco Kiryu hybrid

[young mango]

you know the more frames a person has that the more frames they spend on the ground meaning more lenient bunnyhops right?

also you mentioned svs which is battlemode which is locked to a specific framerate of 120FPS

[random vault]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-blammo-punch-tiger-fight-gif-6771598

[young mango]

at least in terms of AI and weapon mechanics

[random vault]

cacodemon folds to tiger drop

[young mango]

you mentioned tons of movement tech, which a lot of is dependent on framerate, and only specific enemy attacks are dependent on framerates, not enemies in their entirety, which the majority of those instances being patched out entirely or nerfed, you mentioned punchboosting, which is frame dependent that the disconnection in the collision happens much quicker, leading to far more speed from them, and meathooking, which adds more speed for effective frame, probably the only non frame dependent thing you mentioned were dash boosts

[young mango]

also there’s no instance in casual gameplay where dash boosts or punch boosts would even be implemented because of the set up needed they are pretty much only tailored to speedruns so it’s a weird measurement for skill

[finite elm]

Kiryu, like the kaiju?

[young mango]

like there would be absolutely zero practical usage of a mid combat punchboost even if you did have a good way to do it on command in those situations

The main method I’ve seen non speedrunners punchboost is by glory killing a cacodemon and using their left over lunge points to get a boost off it it, which is weird because unless you’re luring the cacodemon specifically in the direction you’re planning on going there’s basically no way to direct the momentum where you want it to go and you will always just go straight forward

[random vault]

kazuma kiryu

[serene stone]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiryu-punch-kuze-video-game-gif-17689093

[uncut zenith]

E

GUESS WHO'S back

Back again

Doom guys back

Tell a friend

Awww not again 😦

No one reply 😦

[serene stone]

Dash also resets momentum, so I never understood the love for it lol

[serene stone]

When you going Back to Saturn a third time?

There's some games where dashing still preserves and boosts your momentum.

Eternal's dash is just fixed and static

That's what I mean dash is already broken, and it's bland and undynamic at the same time.

I don't get why people like it so much lol

Apparently it's such a a big deal that other FPS become "unplayable" for them.

It's just a static overpowered spammable boost ability, I don't get the big deal

I was already saying dash lacks control haha

Also maybe make it so you can't double dash, just single dash

But I hope the next DOOM doesn't even have a dash tbh lol

https://tenor.com/view/caco-gif-24513880

Fiyuuur

[umbral totem]

ya but doesn't it get boring to play the same levels over and over again

[young mango]

I have 1700+ hours and I’m still not bored so I don’t think no

[serene stone]

To me I got super burnt out and my opinion soured immensely on the game over time. So yes.

I'm at the point where even Doom 3 is more interesting to me sometimes/at times lol

Don't get me wrong DOOM 3 is pretty good doe, atleast the 2nd half

And Resurrection of Evil is a fantastic expansion

[swift cedar]

Hey guys what difficulty was your first playthrough

[serene stone]

Ultra Violence back in 2020 then tried Nightmare around Cultist Base and was surprised about how well I was doing

[umbral totem]

ITYTD LMAO

of course, now i can beat the game on nightmare, albeit not ultra nightmare

[serene stone]

I think I lowered it to Ultra Violence again once I reached Final Sin for the first time, but I don't remember for sure

It was, but I also had experience with DOOM 2016 beforehand so.

Though I am pretty sure my first playthrough with DOOM 2016 was Hurt Me Plenty back in late 2016 or early 2017 or something

[young mango]

cheers mine too, but of course where you start doesn’t indicate how far you can go

[swift cedar]

For me I haven't finished the game once but I am on.ultra violence

[serene stone]

It took me a long time before I started playing DOOM 2016 on Nightmare and even Ultra Violence

I still suck at Doom 3 though, lol, I can't play it any higher than Marine. (Well I mean I probably can, but I just kinda struggle on Marine still)

[gilded shore]

hello I currently play doom 2016 and doom eternal but I still don't understand the story can you explain it to me?

[unreal flare]

Any tips to defeat a possessed Marauder?

Right now I'm just running away from him dropping grenades on him but idk if that's gonna work

The grenade strategy worked but that was LONG bro

surely there's something more reliable I can do

[knotty raptor]

2020??? You're an oldie !

[storm field]

Read codexes if you collected any codexes

[knotty raptor]

I Don't think there's much strategy for a possessed marauder

Does the sentinel hammer work on him?

So we have to shoot it till it dies

[gilded shore]

Codexes is enough ?

[unreal flare]

I'm on TAG1 I don't have that yet

[austere bronze]

it does work but you don't have it when you face him

[knotty raptor]

Oh no I spoiled u

[austere bronze]

treat him like a normal one but don't start with pb, start with ssg

[unreal flare]

nah dw I already knew about it way before I actually played Doom Eternal

[unreal flare]

ah yeah maybe I am wasting time focusing PB on him

[knotty raptor]

Shouldn't you back down from his range?

[austere bronze]

do ssg, pb, ssg, pb

[knotty raptor]

I think pb + ballista + rocket launcher is good

[austere bronze]

since starting with pb doesn't stagger him

[unreal flare]

I can't quickswitch for the life of me

[knotty raptor]

And ssg when he gets close

[unreal flare]

best I can do is spam SSG but that might just work

[knotty raptor]

Precision bolt

[austere bronze]

precision bolt

[storm field]

Everything explains in codex

[unreal flare]

on another topic there's a weird area with a 2UP behind laser in the woods, how do I get my hands on it?

[knotty raptor]

Even quick swapping strategies?

[unreal flare]

it's near some rising platforms

[knotty raptor]

Tag?

[gilded shore]

Ok thanks

[unreal flare]

TAG1 yes

[knotty raptor]

Sorry I don't own it yet

[storm field]

Theres quick switch tutorial in arc complex second turret but it shows only ssg ballista and pb rocket

[knotty raptor]

Oh yeah

[unreal flare]

I never even managed to pull that off for some reason

[knotty raptor]

Just get used to it do it slowly at first

Get to know every key of your PC

[unreal flare]

I mean I'd love to pull it off slowly but it's not quite in the spirit of quickswitching

[knotty raptor]

I can play without watching my keyboard

[knotty raptor]

Do it on I'm too young to die

[austere bronze]

It is quick switching even if you do it slow, and besides you gotta start somewhere

[knotty raptor]

Agreed

But the hardest part is to know how to use the frags and icy bomb

And mods

[unreal flare]

unrelated but I found it, there was a crack I didn't see near the bottom of the pit

[serene stone]

For Doom Eternal?

I mean I thought most people played it for the first time in 2020-2021

It's still a pretty recent game lol

[austere bronze]

I played it first in 2023

[serene stone]

Maybe this server attracts newer people.

Interesting

Tbf I'm pretty sure you said you're new to DOOM in general

[lyric lodge]

Same fr

[azure oriole]

Ngl it would be funny if the slayers name is timmy

[serene stone]

Damn I guess they're right.

I am an oldie here. Lmao

[serene stone]

https://tenor.com/view/i-aint-old-aint-old-not-old-old-krabs-gif-11724041

[unreal flare]

How do I open the Holt's last secret encounter

There's a green button but shooting it does nothing

do I need a specific weapon to open it?

[storm field]

İs that secret encounter has laser barrier?

[unreal flare]

Yes that's the one

[storm field]

There is green button look up shoot button barrier will be gone

[unreal flare]

yeah I'm doing just that but it is not going away at all

[storm field]

1 sec

[storm field]

https://youtu.be/cn4yPs4LivM?si=RhBlRBtP_6ZnG0-G

[unreal flare]

bro I just did that and it's not working

maybe it's because I cleared the encounter with the possessed tyrant?

[storm field]

İdk then

[unreal flare]

well shit I'll see if fast travel fixes it then

Fast travel did not fix it I don't like this game

[south stratus]

hi does anyone know that gamepass includes dlc's ?

it says included with gamepass but cant takes me to the store when i click it in game

[knotty raptor]

Same

Even 2023

I'm a newbie

[knotty raptor]

If I remember you can choose what dlc u wanna chose

[south stratus]

from where

[nocturne lynx]

Game Pass includes neither expansion.

[south stratus]

if i buy them i can play them with gamepass right ?

[knotty raptor]

In the Slayer club

[knotty raptor]

I think so

[austere bronze]

lmao, I thought that the world spear ML felt a bit harder than usual but then I remembered that I still had double damage on

[south stratus]

i bought year one pass and still cant play them

i am gonna jump from the nearst window

[swift cedar]

I am on the cutscene to fight the maruader wish me luck

[young mango]

do you guys ever think about how lowkey doom eternal was kind of a rush job? like crazy they built a different game in a different engine with entirely different story and concepts and originally the release date was supposed to be in 2019 which is a wild deadline, we’re talking like 3 1/2 years for a game built from the ground up, doom 2016 was such development hell that it’s development started in 2007 which is fucking insane to think about

and it’s still a less than 4 year gap with the increased release date

[swift cedar]

I am on the cutscene to fight the maruader wish me luck

[young mango]

Like people need to realize like that is not at all a normal thing, basically even realistically they wouldn’t have had much time even starting the instant 2016 came out, which most likely didn’t happen because they weren’t very confident in the final product before commercial success, and this unrealistic gap between the two games has given people such a warped perception of what to expect from ID software, with literally half of the new members who come in here basically regurgitating that “when’s the next doom” shit

[slow sigil]

4 years isn't that crazy for a gameplay heavy game iirc

[young mango]

also, 2016 pretty much was finished completely on release, no DLC, but doom eternal wasn’t really polished fully until horde mode, so like late 2021, it’s early 2024, that same gap between eternal and hypothetical new game hasn’t even happened yet, people are so impatient

[young mango]

you know what IS crazy though, within 2 years they already had a working prototype of that shit at quakecon

[slow sigil]

I'm pretty sure just the generals, not all the specifics

[knotty raptor]

Did you kill him?

The best combo for him is ballista + ssg

But you won't be able to glory kill him with that

Cuz this combo is too powerful

hey guis i've got an intriguing question

how does the slayer breathe through his praetor suit?

[austere bronze]

Pb+ssg is actually better

[knotty raptor]

when you have to scuba dive in urdak before killing the khan, you can stay in water as long as you want, whereas in tag1 you need to take scuba diving tanks before you get into the atlantica base to retrieve the seraphim key

so it's pretty confusing

[knotty raptor]

i'll try it out

[austere bronze]

yea, do that, pb, ssg, pb ssg kills him in 2 cycles insetad of 3

assuming ssg point blank range

[knotty raptor]

never thought that way

cuz ssg is not a normal shotgun

[young mango]

objectively not true, also ssg and ballista both do 750 on current patch and opening shots on the marauder do significantly less damage, 262.5 for these weapons respectively, so with a healthpool of 5000 and a stagger health of 500, any damage between 4500 and 5000, he is glory killable.
262.5 -> 750 -> 750 ( next cycle begins ) 262.5 -> 750 -> 750 ( next cycle begins ) 262.5 -> 750 which at this point he will have taken 4,537.5 damage, within the aforementioned thresholds

because the super shotgun and ballista deal the exact same damage towards marauder, this combo will not only NOT prevent glory kills, but it should actually GUARANTEE one at some point

[knotty raptor]

you know how demons fare against weapons this well?

fr i wish i could do it too

RIP AND TEAR YOUR NUMBERS

[swift cedar]

Yes in 5 attempts game journalists are just trash

[knotty raptor]

u don't even have time to do maths

you get torn to shreds in a matter of seconds if you don't move quick enough

[proud knot]

Do you have any tips for me to succeed in the ultra-nightmare run please ?

[smoky rover]

domt die

[smoky rover]

maybe urdak has special breathable water

[austere bronze]

Guys, I'm gonna start using remote detonation

[knotty raptor]

That'd be odd

[austere bronze]

What

[knotty raptor]

It's mouse 3 once you've shot your rocket

[red bay]

thats what im saying

[austere bronze]

The rocket launcher is nice

Of all those game I've only played doom eternal and doom 1993

[lyric lodge]

Bro same

I wont

[austere bronze]

Same

[knotty raptor]

Why are 2016 glory kills more praised?

There's too much shadows in 2016 we cannot see anything

And the glory kills are more repetitive

Whereas with the arm blade...

Hits different 🗿

But you can literally open a doom hunter's skull wide with bare hands from behind...

What I really found cool was to rip off an imp's jaw

Do it from behind and do not jump on it

On the Doom hunter

Or else you'll just smash his head off with your foot

(kinda boring)

[silent cloud]

привет кто русский?

кто пойдёт в кооп в доом етернал?

[austere bronze]

Only english

[silent cloud]

ok

[unreal flare]

I'm taking a short break to eat and then I can finally tackle Immora

It's gonna be the end of a journey for me. after that, I'm moving on to other game franchises for the time being

I wish my backlog didn't get so big 😅

[smoky rover]

cool, good luck

[knotty raptor]

Because it actually IS a journey

Whenever you play doom eternal you feel like a chad

[vital spindle]

Im fallout fan and im in the fallout server and i got banned because of an emoji

Like this one

I love that server but the rules

[knotty raptor]

The only rule is to kill demons

[azure oriole]

Learn how to automatic retome detonate

And punch swap Rockets, you won't go back to lock on burst anymore eheh

[austere bronze]

I've already stopped using lock on burst because I find it pretty braindead

Since lock on burst is still the better mod I'll only use remote detonation cuz I don't want to use lock on burst

[azure oriole]

As long as you have fun go for it

[austere bronze]

Yea

I only wanna maximise fun per second

[azure oriole]

I would also suggest you tò start practicing ballista boosting and try to play without air control, so the game actuallt feels challenging and not a Jump Fiesta

[austere bronze]

Trust me, for what I'm doing it already is challenging

[azure oriole]

What are you doing?

[austere bronze]

But I am practicing ballista boosting

[austere bronze]

Modded stuff and restricted modded stuff

[azure oriole]

Mmmh i see

[austere bronze]

But I'll ocvasionally do normal MLs

Line today I did world spear ML on UN without BFG hammer and lob

[azure oriole]

Well One step at a time, Remember that you get the best out of ballista boosting by punch swapping It

[austere bronze]

Well, ig I died at the ast arena, but almost :)

[azure oriole]

I'm currently working on a mod that makes the game more challenging, for now i added few mechanics but i'm planning to change ai too, if you want tò give It a try let me know 🙂

[azure oriole]

Yoooo that's so good

[hasty wolf]

ok i give up

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-there's-nothing-we-can-do-napoleon-pyritesian-gif-17490332095914688011

[vital spindle]

I was talking about fallout server

[ebon marsh]

Hello

[vital spindle]

Wtf

Why is FBI į server

[ebon marsh]

I have your search history

[austere bronze]

I would love to try it :)

[austere bronze]

I have it uploaded to my yt channel if you're interested

[vital spindle]

Calm down

[vital spindle]

Send me my search history

[azure oriole]

I can send you It when i come back home

[austere bronze]

Aight, sounds good

[frail flicker]

About to start the Ancient Gods DLC, I really love that in the difficulty settings, it says "...but more demons because it's DLC" at the bottom of the screen

[young mango]

It’s funny that they added that disclaimer after TAG2 came out, which is… notoriously easier than the campaign

[frail flicker]

Fr?

Does it mean it's safe to up the difficulty or should I keep it on UV?

[young mango]

well i wouldn’t advise upping the difficulty if you’re currently on UV, nightmare is a 2x damage boost from UV, where as every previous difficulty only boosts the damage to the slayer by 30%

[austere bronze]

It boosts the damage by 30 percentage points

[young mango]

so for reference, cacodemon bite on every difficulty ( estimations through percentage )
ITYTD- 27
HMP- 63
UV- 90
NM- 180

[young mango]

( itytd might be inaccurate, probably did math wrong, but it’s probably not far off considering since it’s only 40%, the 70% HMP functions on is basically 57% more damage

[night tapir]

Can anyone help me with trophies?🥺 I’m on Xbox

[ionic fox]

hi

[slow sigil]

Go onto battlemode and just keep grinding 👍

[night tapir]

We need cook

[frail flicker]

Noted, thanks a lot!
Also, to anyone who has any idea how to fix it, could you help me with a glitch? It says I unlocked the Bunyan Boomerang intro for the Marauder, but it won't let me access it

Nvm! All fixed

[ebon marsh]

It was a joke

[knotty raptor]

Has anyone noticed you can get tossed up into the sky at any moment?

Is there a way to master this? I mean it's a bug of the game but it's pretty helpful

[tough zinc]

I suck at this game

[glossy warren]

and thats ok

as long as youre having fun thats what counts

[tough zinc]

I feel like i lost my touch

I used to play on Ultra nightmare now i'm like 'too young to die

😉

[dull herald]

lucky

i wish i could get bad againn

[tough zinc]

why m

[dull herald]

cuus

ummm game would be more fun..

[austere bronze]

I would want to try starting from the beginning again cuz I have no idea how I played a long time ago

[unreal flare]

I have done it

I have UV maxxed all of Doom

except Doom 3 but you're gonna have to pay me to play it

As much as I love the Doom franchise I'm gonna step away from it and it's gonna feel great

at some point I felt trapped in it (especially around Final Doom and Doom 64)

thankfully Modern Doom was a real blast to play so we end on a positive note

(except Davoth. I did not like Davoth at all)

[knotty raptor]

I wish every doom game had glory kills

[young mango]

what action do you most often find yourself performing when this happens and about how much height would you say you get from it

I’m somewhat of a speedrunner, i could probably tell you what’s going on there

[knotty raptor]

I'd say you can get tossed up high enough to see the whole map...

[young mango]

is there any dashing involved?

[knotty raptor]

Not necessarily

I think it does anyway cuz I often dash

[young mango]

yea that’s probably it, I wrote a long paragraph on what this is once, it’s called a zip boost

[young mango]

Zip boosts are a tech that gives you massive momentum in a specified direction by dashing into something. It is a bit more complex than I'm making it sound so I will provide some additional requirements for making it work. So first, dash from a place that starts on the ground, and make sure that when you dash off, you have a temporary state of being airborne during that zip, being 0.6096 meters off the ground during the process, during this dash at any point if you go below that threshold ( and still in the air ) a 100ms timer begins, or 0.1 of a second. Which DrakePHOSE refers to as a “grace period”. At the end of the grace period the game checks if you are still below that threshold, as well as still airborne. If you meet these criteria you will get 6096 speed directly downwards per second, so basically 6096 m/s, if your dash ends before the criteria is met, or if you go too high, or become grounded, the speed will not be applied and you will just dash like normal. And a dash lasts 250ms, or 0.25 seconds. Gravity is only applied if you’re above that 0.6096 meter threshold, otherwise it is applied only when the dash ends. This momentum on its own normally just brings you downwards, but since it is so much speed all at once, anything you collide with will redirect your momentum at a fraction of what it was, which is okay because even 1/10th of 6096 m/s is still insanely fast. Near full speed it is so much that it could be very easily mistaken for straight up teleporting. Something to note about these criteria is they are not needed for every zip, zips without these criteria have definitely been done before, it is just that these specific criterias guarantee a zip boost. I do not have much more to add to this, I am not too experienced with unrestricted movement tech and I got most of this information from an external source.

[knotty raptor]

How do you know that?

[young mango]

I have a lot of time on my hands

[knotty raptor]

Lmfao just to know how much time did you spend on this game?

I only did 350h in one sole year xd

[young mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1244041155918696559/IMG_9082.png?ex=6653ab1c&is=6652599c&hm=33a93a0dbc314ba664764256fcb2e0bf6bfede5c9ec99a6858598e8536a3dc95&

[knotty raptor]

Oh my f ing god....

How often do u die on horde mode?

In nightmare?

[young mango]

first, I don’t do horde mode often, and second, not at all

[knotty raptor]

...

Anyway hats down

What are u used to do then? Master levels?

[young mango]

master levels has been done for the majority of my playtime but more recently I’d say about the past 6 months or so I’ve been really obsessed with speedrunning TAG2 in particular

[knotty raptor]

Understandable

That's the hardest levels of the game

I've even heard the world spear was hell of a challenge

[young mango]

even if that were true, I skip like half the arenas anyways because it’s any% restricted ( another term for no major glitches )

[knotty raptor]

That explains why you now zip speeds so well

[young mango]

speedrunning this stuff made me realize truly how short reclaimed earth is, you skip like 2 arenas in the level for the speedrun and it’s like less than 4 minutes

[knotty raptor]

Did you even learn all of these glitches by yourself?

[young mango]

zipping is actually an unrestricted glitch, which I’ve dabbled in, im just not as experienced as I am with other strats

[knotty raptor]

That's what trolling a game concept by using all game features really is 😂

[knotty raptor]

We all get to know something new in a given time

[young mango]

no, had to learn them from somewhere, it’s just I’ve gotten really good at the learning part

[knotty raptor]

From who? Horde mode gaming channel?

MY EYES HAVE BEEN OPENED

Fr bro

But it's scriptures of holy knowledge

A fire that fuels creation

[young mango]

actually, horde mode gaming has never made a video on doom eternal tech, or even a gameplay centric video to my knowledge, he’s just a news channel for doom events and whatnot, I wouldn’t say I learned all my stuff from one specific source, some stuff is barely covered in depth at all in an accessible way, to the point where you have to ask specific people instead of using videos for reference, it’s actually gotten to the point where there are high level players that can beat the hardest mods who barely know how double shot functions

[knotty raptor]

And gives purpose where there is none

[knotty raptor]

Oh yeah you just get to know the first video that comes up to you to answer your questions

Btw guys I've got a question

When do u use full auto combat shotgun?

[young mango]

never😭

[knotty raptor]

Is it only useful on stone imps?

[knotty raptor]

Is it only a resort u use in the beginning of the campaign?

[young mango]

not even that, you can chainsaw half the arachnotrons in the first level anyways, and even when you can’t, sticky bombs has way more ammo efficiency because not only is it more damage, but it’s quite risky to use full auto especially when you barely have any good faltering methods yet, so most players resort to using it farther away, which cuts its damage basically in half or more

also, precision bolt punchswap spam

[knotty raptor]

And what do wolves symbolize to the night sentinels? Who are the wraiths ? What is the blue energy they create?

[young mango]

absolutely no clue to most of those questions, I’m just a gameplay guy, lore isn’t my specialty

[knotty raptor]

Too bad I wanted to create my own night sentinel cosplay xd

The armor that looks like a marauder

[knotty raptor]

What is punch swap?

Another way to say blood punch?

[young mango]

punching then repressing the bind to your respective weapon to eliminate the cooldown between shots, effectively being able to spam it with no cooldown

[knotty raptor]

Imagine yourself going to a school festival dressing like one of these chads of warriors

[knotty raptor]

I tried it with ballista but it didn't accelerate the fire rate xd

Btw I think quick swapping is more effective

[young mango]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxXoWgfYgM-QFpTK9tG2T5iL4MJB_ZxxrL?si=iVNDyDM_4G-8Ou4C

[knotty raptor]

And punch swapping would be of use when you're running out of ammo

[young mango]

here’s why I don’t use full auto in the first level

[knotty raptor]

I don't see any full auto xd

NO FULL AUTO IN BUILDINGS

[pseudo thistle]

you did not just say that to probably the most knowledgeable active person in this server about tech 💀

[azure oriole]

It's mainly useful in Speed running for fodders clearing

In master levels Is only useful if you use Rockets ballista ssg and stickies

But Is not necessary to learn It for those

[tawny path]

Doom Eternal was awesome too. I forget if Doom 2016 or Doom Eternal has this one stage I couldn't beat cause I had to figure out how to navigate this tower with this huge drop and had to swing off of this horizontal pipe

[azure oriole]

Maybe It was 2016

[tawny path]

Think I eventually figured it out but that stage was hard as hell but fun

[tranquil finch]

someone help me ?

i cant play doom rn

i cant use my weapons it stuck in sword

and my fov is in my foots

<@&162901871168585728>

[shadow nova]

we cannot help with game issues

please contact bethesda support if you have issues with the game

[tranquil finch]

😦

okey thanks

[azure forum]

At least he didn't say midnight but that was pretty close

[pseudo thistle]

have you tried reloading from checkpoint

or closing the game then loading from checkpoint

[tardy pier]

How many calories does a demonic crucible have

[serene stone]

Why is Eternal so fun with the permanent Overdrive power up cheat enabled?

Punch swaps and Ballista boosts and quick swapping go extra crazy

[random vault]

@azure oriole how hot is argent energy

[azure oriole]

Very, very, very hot.

No precise temperature is given AFAIK.

[random vault]

darn

ill just use the surface of the sun

[random vault]

whats the weight of the crucible

[untold root]

360 pounds

[scenic saddle]

THE CRUCIBLE WEIGHS 360 POUNDS????????

EXCUSE ME HOW

[vale pebble]

it's a gigantic sword made of probably a very strong and heavy metal

[scenic saddle]

Fair point

[scenic saddle]

I’m pretty sure that the blade itself is argent energy and raw argent by that so use the absolute hot instead. Do not take my word for this though. I’m not exactly sure

[random vault]

wrong

[lusty comet]

I love how they introuduce you the super shotgun on doom eternal

[regal walrus]

There actually gonna be a new doom game?

[small helm]

Maybe?

We'll find out on 9th june

[pine vector]

The longer the icon of sin is on earth, the stronger he becomes

[glossy warren]

Thank you doctor

[scenic saddle]

ptsd

[worthy grotto]

Dude we need a post apocalyptic mad max type doom slayer skin

[lyric lodge]

Yes

[azure oriole]

Finger cross for mod support 🤞

[serene stone]

I want to play QuakeCon 2018 Eternal

[knotty raptor]

The dragonslayer is 400 pounds 😎

[azure oriole]

This would be great, I'd love it if they would add new styles to the old skins. I think it would've been cool if somehow they could check your account to see if you've beaten UN and given those players the golden doom slayer style, kinda like how kratos gets an additional style for those playing on PS5. I realize it's probably way too late for my dreams to be realized, but I still think that they would be cool concepts

[knotty raptor]

Wait do you know how canonically long the blade is?

I wanna craft a crucible too

[serene stone]

Kinky

[tacit jetty]

Welp. I wanted to try my first ultra nightmare run on the base campaign today and died to that last arachnatron in the first level

Ah well. “Practice will make perfect”

[scenic moat]

[manic pine]

has anyone else ever gotten the invisible and invincible mancubus before

[royal arch]

have fun

also remember: ultra nightmare becomes easy if you simply do not take damage

[knotty raptor]

Never give up

[gray skiff]

if u move away from the fireballs they wont hit u

[austere bronze]

Whow

Wild

[knotty raptor]

Unless you master the meathook and dash it's not an easy task

[tacit jetty]

Made it to cultist base and I am not looking forward to it lmao.

[azure oriole]

I started an ultra nightmare run and I’m about to do exultia. Any tips?

I’ve never beaten the game on ultra nightmare or nightmare alone but i started a nightmare campaign to practice each level for ultra nightmare

Is that a good strat?

[worthy bone]

Do you guys think they should bring back slayers club rewards for people wanting to join in 2024?

[azure oriole]

I just started playing doom eternal a few months ago. What were the rewards?

[worthy bone]

Skins!

The best probably was the zombie slayer

[azure oriole]

Ooh I got that

Must have been lucky because it apparently stopped?

[worthy bone]

Wait what?

It did stop on

[azure oriole]

Huh?

So they didn’t stop rewarding players?

[worthy bone]

The skins stopped on 07/25/2023

[worthy bone]

They did.

I kinda wish they did slayers club skins again because the the skins that you got from slayers club were bangers

[azure oriole]

Ah yeah they should

[worthy bone]

I feel like they could do some amazing skins now!

Plus they need to do more dread knight skins!

[azure oriole]

Oh yeah the demons too

[worthy bone]

I feel like they need to do slayers club skins again Cause they could do some cool ass skins

[azure oriole]

I remember they gave free items in mighty doom as well

[worthy bone]

Yea I remember that.

[worthy bone]

Maybe one day they will bring skins back to slayers club

[celest stump]

man im so washed at this game

[neat mortar]

You can still get them

i got the zombie slayer a week ago

you just need an old Slayers club link

[worthy bone]

Wait how?

[worthy bone]

And where is this old link?

[neat mortar]

ill send it to you

[worthy bone]

Yo sick

[worthy bone]

Is this old link real?

[neat mortar]

yes

[worthy bone]

Your amazing!

[clear torrent]

Fun fact

In Doomguys room you can find the parts of the removed pistol

[worthy bone]

Oh yeah I already knew that one

[fossil goblet]

Roses are red
The demons are nocturnal
Halo may be infinite
But doom is eternal

[earnest relic]

So they both unlimited?

[fossil goblet]

their both unlimited but one is the cooler unlimited

[strange gale]

both games will more than likely lose online support within the next 15 years

[young mango]

15 years is extremely generous for doom eternal

[strange gale]

and it certainly doesn't fit the definition of "eternal"

[young mango]

The eternal in question: any experienced player could easily hundo the campaign and its two dlcs completely unrouted within 12 hours if they were dedicated enough

[azure oriole]

I’m not

Dedicated enough

[serene stone]

TFW Classic DOOM is more Eternal than DOOM Eternal because of Custom WADs

Also level design, creativity, encounter design, and exploration in Custom WADs are a lot more interesting than Eternal's Serious Sam/Painkillers type arena style all day IMO

I think the Eternal style can be fun at times, it just gets kinda stale just doing locked in arenas all the time.

I say this despite putting 1,500 hours into Eternal and still finding Arc Complex and Final Sin fun to replay lol.

[serene stone]

Though tbf Final Sin and Arc Complex are probably the only levels I like at this point from Eternal.

[tacit aspen]

I like Hell on Earth because it's the only level I managed to beat in UN so far, lol

[serene stone]

I like the aesthetic and vibe of Hell on Earth.

The level itself is just okay though.

It's a pretty cool beginning on a very first playthrough I will say.

[tacit aspen]

It is, I love the visuals too

[serene stone]

But TBF I am not really a big fan of first levels in DOOM games in general except for E1M1 and E2M1 from DOOM 1993.

E2M1 in particular is great

[tacit aspen]

I still need to play through classic Doom, I own them, they are downloaded yet I've barely touched them... I'm pretty new to the Doom franchise though

[serene stone]

I think intro-wise, DOOM 2016 is the coolest.

With the waking up and slamming skulls, the Samuel Hayden speech, him looking at the dead body when Hayden says "we're doing this for the betterment of mankind. I assure you it was worth the risk", and then he punches the screen and then cocks the shotgun to the timing of E1M1's music

But the level itself is kinda mid on subsequent replays

[tacit aspen]

Yeah Doom 2016 was my first one

[serene stone]

I do think outside of the intro.... Eternal's first level itself is a bit stronger.

[finite elm]

Eternal still had cool intro imo

[tacit aspen]

Doom 2016 is set on Mars, and it definitely feels like you're stranded on a dry and hostile planet imo, with the music which is more like a sound which fits the mood, the bass and you hear metallic clicks. I felt very alone when I've played it for the first time

[serene stone]

It's pretty good, I just prefer the 2016 one.

Felt more raw and I liked Doomguy's characterization and anger and love for humans shown through him looking at the dead body and punching the screen during Hayden's speech

It was cool how they showed so much of Doomguy's mindset without making him speak

[tacit aspen]

No mercy

raw and brutal

[serene stone]

Yeah I really liked it on my first playthrough.

I even liked it more than Eternal's first mission on my initial playthroughs

But both levels aren't very fun to replay/go back to IMO

[tacit aspen]

In 2016 I still haven't found all the secrets since I refuse to look up a guide/solution, so there's still replay potetial for me

In Eternal I know everything, it's so much easier to find stuff

It gets a bit boring.

[serene stone]

Yeah I much preferred 2016 exploration and secrets

[serene stone]

Eternal's secrets are okay. Kinda funny that he collects toys and shelves them on his ship though

[lusty comet]

Bro i just hook Into a flying skull instead of the caco demon💀

[tacit aspen]

In 2016 the toys are inside the main menu, they exist but not on display like in Eternal... and it's always mini Doomguy but with a different color. I prefer the shelf in Eternal where it's all the different demons, it has more variety

[serene stone]

Pain Elemental's Lost Souls you mean?

[serene stone]

Yeah, his hub world habits are funny lol

[lusty comet]

Ye the small skulls that look funny on doom 2

They look so silly on doom 2 🤣

[tacit aspen]

I recently learned you can bloodpunch lost souls, blew my mind, lol

[lusty comet]

Same here but with the archnotrons with the chain saw

[serene stone]

Anyway that happens a lot, the game will often auto target the Lost Souls when you're clearly aiming at the Pain Elemental.

The game has very wonky programming in its targeting and meathook nodes.

[worthy bone]

Yall do you think their should be slayer clubs skins again or nah?

And give me your honest opinion.

[serene stone]

I'm not even sure why they got rid of them

[tacit aspen]

I just know of the zombie Slayer, were there more?

[worthy bone]

BRUH SAME

[worthy bone]

Yep

[serene stone]

Lost Souls even die one hit to a regular punch lol

[lusty comet]

Also why you like the meatball guy

[serene stone]

He's the GOAT

[lusty comet]

There really weak

[tacit aspen]

tomato, meatball is pain elemental

[lusty comet]

[serene stone]

Yeah, they were a lot tougher in the Classic games

[lusty comet]

For no reason they can tank 2 super shotgun shots on doom 2 sometimes

[serene stone]

Tomato meat

[serene stone]

Sometimes it's like 4, it's weird

[lusty comet]

And they deal a ton of damage if left alone, 😭😭

[worthy bone]

Bruh fr I just played doom 2 and that shocked me even seeing that

[serene stone]

Also they tank a lot of Chaingun shots at times

[lusty comet]

Fr they tank 20 seconds of it

[serene stone]

In DOOM 64, a lost soul will pretty much always die one hit to the SSG even from far away....

But there's a catch....

.... they're waaaaaaaaay faster and have waaaaaaaaay less attack cool down compared to Doom 1 and 2.

[serene stone]

Making them overall much more toxic even if they have less health

[young mango]

but why though😭😭 1000 damage worth of damage from a limited resource on something with 100 health, 10 health if it spawned from a pain elemental

[serene stone]

Also Pain Elementals themselves are also much more toxic in DOOM 64

[young mango]

keep in mind, that means even the strongest iteration of lost soul has half the health of a zombie, the enemy you find in the very first room of the game, also the timing for a melee attack as opposed to just shooting it with a weak weapon seems like an odd and not very good decision

[tacit aspen]

Just 10? o.o

[worthy bone]

I can’t tell the difference between a normal cacodemon in that game to a pain elemental in doom 64 bruh

[serene stone]

What?

DOOM 64 Cacodemon looks like a DOOM II Pain Elemental.

But the DOOM 64 Pain Elemental looks like some super fucked up horror creature that has never been in a DOOM game before.

[worthy bone]

Oh that’s what I meant Pain elemental from doom II and the cacodemon in Doom 64 look to similar to the point where I can’t tell the difference

[serene stone]

Oh that makes a lot more sense

Yes, the DOOM 64 Cacodemon looks like a typical DOOM Pain Elemental for some reason

And the Pain Elemental from 64? I have no idea what that thing is supposed to be. That thing is just crazy

[worthy bone]

I do feel like they should bring back the Skins from slayers club you would get in the next major doom eternal update with a few new skins

[serene stone]

I joined Slayer Club very recently despite playing Eternal for 1,500 hours and found out I was too late for the Zombie Slayer lmfao

Oh well, I mean some of the skins I have are better than the Zombie Slayer, but it's still puzzling that you can't get it anymore

[worthy bone]

Fr

[serene stone]

Also I wish you didn't have to pre-order to get the classic sound effects. I actually prefer the classic weapon sounds over Eternal's lol

There's a special charm to that 1990s gun/weapon SFX

[worthy bone]

The zombie slayer is probably one of the best skins in the game

lol fr

The old gun noises from the classic doom games have a charm to them

[worthy bone]

My favourite skin is the cultist slayer for the doom slayer

[serene stone]

I like Ebony Praetor, DOOM 64, and the blue Quake skin

Also the Doom II skins are pretty cool too

[azure oriole]

Anyone got advice for my ultra nightmare run?

[tacit aspen]

I like the regular standard one

[serene stone]

I'll admit that I don't really like Eternal's Doomguy's regular armor

[worthy bone]

The standard skin is nice and neat

But the skin I’m still using is the praetor suit

[serene stone]

But I also don't like the mix of green and brown.

[azure oriole]

I like any red skins

[worthy bone]

It’s just something about the praetor suit that still has its charm

[serene stone]

The 2016 Praetor?

[worthy bone]

Yes!

[azure oriole]

Especially that one red shiny one that you get from the bfg master level

[serene stone]

True.

[azure oriole]

The chrome one

[serene stone]

Ebony Praetor variant is like a really cool hybrid of silver and gold.

[tacit aspen]

If I feel like it I use the 80s degrees Slayer, such a fun mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1175/?tab=images

[azure oriole]

Pic?

[worthy bone]

But cmon someone at Id software pls bring back slayers club skins they looking amazing especially the zombie slayer and the zombie Mancubus!

[azure oriole]

Ikr I want the mancubus one too

[worthy bone]

Ooooo goes well with the retro 80’s Heavy cannon skin

[tacit aspen]

It does!

[azure oriole]

Is there a mod for eternal where it’s pretty much the original levels?

[worthy bone]

I wish you could get mods on PlayStation for doom eternal

[azure oriole]

Idk how to mod it on pc lol

And I don’t want to mod it until I get the dlc and finish everything

[worthy bone]

It’s ok I don’t know how to!

[serene stone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239360180966260802/1244430249899458640/11b75a5f-8f6a-4d68-9923-426afad13075.png?ex=6655157b&is=6653c3fb&hm=0a1e4634febdd064031d6819988383e5459b0a8d7b90ac82a0e8fb0a35a6ad71&

[azure oriole]

Damn that is a mix of gold and silver

[serene stone]

My favorite skin in the game most likely

[azure oriole]

How do you get it?

[tacit aspen]

Modding on PC
#eternal-modding message

[azure oriole]

Thx

[tacit aspen]

Welcome

[serene stone]

I think it's getting two gold bounties on Horde mode. But I can't remember for sure

[serene stone]

It's not a mod. I'm on Xbox.

[worthy bone]

Wait did id software do anything to doom eternal on the 30th anniversary of doom?

[serene stone]

I think they released some image/artwork

[worthy bone]

Is that all?

[serene stone]

That's about it I think

[worthy bone]

Is that truly all???

NO NEW SKINS? No new nothing accept image:artwork?

[lusty comet]

Most hard enemy on doom 2 is mini skulls

[worthy bone]

Lost souls?

[lusty comet]

Ofc

There op

Also why they name a demon Pinky

[serene stone]

Don't think so. Maybe a rerun of an event skin

[serene stone]

Revenants, Archviles, Pain Elementals

[glossy warren]

pink

[serene stone]

Maybe Chaingunnners too

[lusty comet]

Who cares about them mini skulls op

[serene stone]

But Lost Souls are the most tedious and anti fun enemy

[lusty comet]

Pinky meant

[lusty comet]

Yes

[glossy warren]

theyre pink

[serene stone]

In basically every DOOM game too

[lusty comet]

Thats the only reason?

[serene stone]

Also 2016 Lost Souls one shot you on Nightmare

[lusty comet]

What if there blue for example? Bluey

[glossy warren]

then theyd be bluey ig lol

[serene stone]

They should be called Crimson Pink because they're covered in red armor (atleast in 2016.)

In Eternal I think their armor is more purple though

Eternal's like purple/pink mix

[young mango]

pinky was a name given to the demons by the fans and later officially adopted, in doom 1 & 2 they are only referred to as “demon”

[serene stone]

Also 64 and Doom 3 they were just called "Demons"

[lusty comet]

Alr Fair enough

Ill call them Pink Thingy

[serene stone]

Imagine if Cyber Mancubus, Doom Hunters, and Dread Knights were called Cyberdemons because they "technically" are Cyberdemon lol.

As in, they are cybernetically altered or cybernetically equipped demons

That would be so confusing

[lusty comet]

That would be mess up on alot of ways 🗿

[serene stone]

And then the Tyrant would be "Cyberdemon God" or "Cyberdemon King", or maybe "Cyberdemon Behemoth" lol

Dread Knight is "Cyberdemon Hell Knight" lmao

[lusty comet]

Yea thats why i mean dread knight will be called fast cyber demon

[serene stone]

And then Doom Hunter would be "Cyberdemon Prime"....IDFK lol

Cyber Mancubus is "Cyberdemon Fat Ass"

[lusty comet]

And we dont talk about doom hunters

What will his name be??

[serene stone]

I just said Doom Hunters were Cyberdemon Primes or something lol

[lusty comet]

Thats silly af

Also i wanna recreate soviet unión on the doom rpg

[serene stone]

Best name is Cyberdemon Fat Ass

[lusty comet]

Can i do it?

[serene stone]

For the Cyber Mancubus

[serene stone]

IDK

[lusty comet]

Nah cyber cucumber

Wait i have a better name

[serene stone]

In DOOM 2016, he's just Cyberdemon Oculus Rift

[lusty comet]

Cyber Reactor with legs

[azure oriole]

@young mango do you know about the punch mod-swap switch tech?

[serene stone]

Legged Cyber Reactor would work better IMO

[young mango]

there’s a few tech that function like that, maybe be a bit more specific?

[lusty comet]

Lets rename all doom enemys

[serene stone]

Marauder is just "Shitty washed up version of Doomguy"

[azure oriole]

You can punch swap by pressing mod swap Key. Like precision bolt Key + punch Key + mod swap Key, without having tò Press the precision bolt Key again

[lusty comet]

True like bro thinks he is the Slayer

[azure oriole]

It works with precision bolt only, and with weapons that inherit the bring up animation

[lusty comet]

I play on controller

[azure oriole]

It doesn't work, though, with ballista for some reasons

[young mango]

never heard of this, but it doesn’t surprise me considering the heavy cannons unique combo swap chain mechanics that allow for things like fast dblade, and the fact that in the early days of punchswapping when the tech was brand new, people thought modswap was part of the process required for it to work, which was later found out not to be the case

[azure oriole]

I see, tbh i've been practicing the mod swap combos a few hours lately, Wish the punch was more reactive

[serene stone]

He thinks he's even better than the Slayer.

Fun fact; Doomguy actually smirks during the Marauder introduction cutscene

[serene stone]

Does Sylar have a video on it?

[azure oriole]

Well It Is a useless tech eithrway

[azure oriole]

No i think, never Heard of It, i Just found It out a few minutes ago

[lusty comet]

Bro doom Slayer is a literal god and hes just a strong guy thats it

[azure oriole]

But Is useless...

[worthy bone]

Guys.

[serene stone]

Interesting. Then I have no idea

[azure oriole]

Is Just more "comfy" cause you have 1 Key for punch swapping

[worthy bone]

I got some news for y’all.

[serene stone]

You're the real Doomguy?

[azure oriole]

Whatsup?

[worthy bone]

I wish!

But apparently a new doom game has been leaked.

[serene stone]

Glad you are not. I didn't want to die today

[worthy bone]

And it will take place between Doom 64 and doom 2016.

[lusty comet]

Am a weaker Slayer:(

[serene stone]

Well hopefully you aren't strong enough to kill Cacodemons

[lusty comet]

I am strong enough to kill krqtos

[serene stone]

Cacodemons still stronger

[lusty comet]

I could kill you right now if i want to

[serene stone]

I'm Caco God

[azure oriole]

Yeah dark ages

[serene stone]

The very original Cacodemon that has outlived every other Cacodemon in existence

[azure oriole]

Probably gonna play It Just once and go back to eternal

[worthy bone]

It sounds amazing!

[azure oriole]

I mean, It Will be a fantasy game, so RPG like rage

[lusty comet]

[serene stone]

I mean....I would have rather had a new Quake or new IP

[azure oriole]

True

[worthy bone]

Same

[lusty comet]

I gotta call the only one that can beat you

[azure oriole]

Yo

[worthy bone]

I want a new quake game in all honesty over a new doom

[lusty comet]

sup

[azure oriole]

Quake Champions has classes bleah

[lusty comet]

The New game will be after doom 64

So is a precuel

[serene stone]

DOOM's kinda....idk .... like we have six mainline games, we have various DLCs and expansions.

We have countless mods, custom wads, and SnapMaps.

We have enough and basically infinite content for DOOM already.

We don't really need a new game.

[glossy warren]

I dont trust the leaks but between 64 and 16 would be awesome

[serene stone]

We also have some spin offs like DOOM RPG and stuff

[glossy warren]

theres nothing to fill in his sentinel journey

I think a show would be better for that,. assuming we get actual good directors

[lusty comet]

Who cares we need more and New demons to destroy

[lusty comet]

Thats true also

[serene stone]

Mods (especially Classic Doom mods) and Classic custom wads and SnapMaps got that covered.

We have basically unlimited DOOM content.

[glossy warren]

I want more lore

I honestly dont care whether we get a series or game atp

[lusty comet]

Yes that true but we need to see more of the slayer on action

[serene stone]

Interesting. I wasn't big on the lore direction that The Ancient Gods went towards, so that aspect kinda lost me

[serene stone]

If you're meaning more of an official story and narrative on the Slayer himself, then I sorta understand

[azure oriole]

We Just Need Doom eternal mod support

[lusty comet]

Ye

[lusty comet]

Gl with that

[serene stone]

Actually yes. Especially if they put it for console plebs like me as well

[azure oriole]

They are working on It... They.. are..

[glossy warren]

theres r34 of everything

[serene stone]

Maybe leaks are lying about DOOM The Dark Age and they're just going to announce official Eternal mod support for PC and Consoles.

That would be the perfect announcement

If that happens, then June 9th can't come soon enough

[lusty comet]

Everything?.. Including the inocent doom bunny?

[glossy warren]

probably

[serene stone]

Oh god

[lusty comet]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/J89uc3dZig

[serene stone]

I don't even wanna think about the things people posted about Daisy

[lusty comet]

Look guys easy boss

[serene stone]

I haven't seen anything myself.... but it's most likely out there

[lusty comet]

Poor rabbit what even she has done to deserve that 😭😭😭😭

[serene stone]

Lol your meathook glitching and spazzing out on the first Shield Guy

[lusty comet]

Idk why that happens

Thats so stupid

I literally chainsaw him 3 times and nothing

[serene stone]

Oh yeah I saw that too.

Meathook, targeting, and chainsaw very janky in this game lol

[lusty comet]

True

Btw when i try hook the boss it hooked Into a random demon 🗿

[serene stone]

Also happens a lot. Where it attaches to extremely random directions

[young mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1233370092054511727/Untitled_video_21.mp4?ex=66550ea8&is=6653bd28&hm=05a44325aa52b6a79b060ea04e27c869058448f5df2aff35e8ff15abab75246e&

[vale pebble]

if it's on the Internet it will have some

[mint badge]

I just started my playthrough. The game seems fire so far.

[serene stone]

It's a pretty cool game. Doomguy doesn't afraid of nothing. Not even aliens.

[stray gulch]

Who is this? An bug?

[serene stone]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-kazuma-kiryu-yakuza-picture-smile-gif-21855079

[serene stone]

Bulldozer tech

[stray gulch]

The fast kill for doom hunter? No?

[serene stone]

https://tenor.com/view/like-a-dragon-gaiden-joryu-damn-kiryu-damn-gaiden-joryu-gaiden-kiryu-gif-15664409657407658415

Lost a game of pocket racing 😦

[serene stone]

Bulldozer is an extremely broken tech.

Plobbus will probably end up posting what it does to possessed Tyrants.

[stray gulch]

But is really effective? With the heavy demons and mini boss?

[serene stone]

https://youtu.be/dvICNQr8naE?si=ecI3p_As2QiL3bK7

I'll do his job for him by posting his own video lmao

[lusty comet]

Well man i dont have tjose guys yet so is not as easy as that

[stray gulch]

It's difficult or no?

[young mango]

Hold on guys let me return to current patch I have a video to make

[stray gulch]

Ok

[burnt moss]

Why is it noobs often have success and even enjoyment starting on UV or NM, but I always have to work up from HMP?

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/etGUur-FYyc

this bossfight could literally last 5 seconds if 1. they didn't have iframes between phases 2. bulldozer actually worked on their first phase without breaking the shield ( breaking it normally then bulldozing is slower than just spamming shotgun swaps )

[young mango]

from experience, your starting point doesn’t really matter, i started on ITYTD for my first playthrough and struggled but i consider myself fairly skilled, however I’ve seen players who begin on nightmare and they never really exceed that skill level they start at

[serene stone]

It's so sad that there'll never be mobile turret strats anywhere near as viable as Chaingun shield

[young mango]

actually there sort of is, although it’s not anywhere near as consistent as this

basically mobile turret is wacky and frame dependent sometimes and it’s firerate can just spontaneously change and you can get wacky stuff like 20 bullets in a single frame iirc

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/payday2-the-russian-badger-bulldozer-gif-25839433

[burnt moss]

Well I’m not just talking about first time, in my case. Every time I return to the game after a break I’m most comfortable with HMP.

[river pewter]

Guys I'm 14 and i play ancient gods 1 on hurt me plenty and it feels really hard but i havent played doom in a year so i should retry

[hoary barn]

I wanna sin with the icon of sin

[knotty raptor]

Perhaps you should play back to less complex levels in order to be one with your keyboards, then come back to tag1 when you're ready

[lyric lodge]

bros attracted to goats

[hoary barn]

Not just any goat

[river pewter]

I play controller

[young mango]

@echo fractal replying to you here because #videos cooldown is too long, stair dash boosts need a very specific angle for them to work and there are only two instances in the game that I can think of in the game, the instance you showed in that video, and a staircase in the first arena of final sin ( im sure there are more instances ), normal dash boosts, and wall dash boosts, however are encountered far more frequently because the angles appear more often, but if you want a similar boost that can be performed almost anywhere and gives marginally more height, you should learn edge boosts, they’re basically dash boosts, except they read as a really steep surface, granting you above average height from the boost, here’s a tutorial on how to do an edge boost, by bloodshot https://youtu.be/pZ2ppsjJdDo?si=Nf-9fvvZxHThbd9N

[young mango]

also to give you an idea of how similar this tech is to dash boosts, before the name edge boosts was settled on they just called it a “super dash boost”

[echo fractal]

Cool stuff

[scarlet charm]

Game cool

[hoary barn]

I played Eternal for the first time yesterday

Fricking awesome

[knotty raptor]

Fr fr

Can't wait to see what the dark ages looks like

I expect more realistic and gory glory kills with bare hands as well as new demons to show up

[knotty raptor]

It is possible as it takes place before doom 2016

We might not play as a slayer but as a marine instead

In the Doom 3 style

[serene stone]

Yooo, just like 2016

[serene stone]

For the more realistic and gory glory kills with barehands aspect

[knotty raptor]

Doom 2016 was indeed super realistic

But it still has this cartoon aspect

Imagine if after 4 years of work, betsheda created a game so realistic that It looks like real life

[slow sigil]

super realistic?

[knotty raptor]

Btw there wasn't much light so we couldn't see much gory details

[knotty raptor]

There was a lot of details tho

If not perfect

[serene stone]

I wouldn't say "super" realistic
...but it is relatively very realistic for what it is

[knotty raptor]

Indeed

[serene stone]

I could see them. Maybe you had brightness or gamma settings off

[knotty raptor]

Comparing 2016 to eternal why do people talk shit on hell tyrants? It's not a cyberdemon but it's design is a good mix of high tech and demons

[slow sigil]

Because almost all demons are "cyber demons"
It was a dumb legacy name

[knotty raptor]

But it's not called cyberdemon anymore

[hoary barn]

Tyrant🤮

Cybertyrant😎😎

[knotty raptor]

That'd be fire 🔥

[hoary barn]

Why did they introduce arachnotrons so quickly in eternal?

[knotty raptor]

What do you prefer as designs fireborne barons or barons of hell?

[hoary barn]

Barons of hell

[knotty raptor]

Cuz they're fodder

[knotty raptor]

Fireborne barons look more infernal imo

[hoary barn]

I HATE arachnotrons

[hoary barn]

But they look weird

[knotty raptor]

They're litteraly made out of lava

[hoary barn]

Ugh, lava

[knotty raptor]

What a cliché

[slow sigil]

Yup, because it was a dumb name that was logically changed

[hoary barn]

WHATT

[knotty raptor]

For this game yeah

[slow sigil]

Imagine if there was an enemy named "enemy"

That's basically how cyberdemon sounds to me in eternal

[hoary barn]

Okay fair

[knotty raptor]

But not all demons are cyber

Except doom hunter tyrant and dread knight

[hoary barn]

Doomguy is literally me

[knotty raptor]

And the mechanic zombie

[hoary barn]

I eat imps for lunch

[knotty raptor]

U hit the gym?

[hoary barn]

Yes sir

[knotty raptor]

Lmfao

[knotty raptor]

Then ur a true slayer

[hoary barn]

Hell yeah

It felt so good to glory kill an arachnotron

I was like HELL YEAH

[knotty raptor]

https://youtu.be/tIfo-74vOLM?si=WPcymVqWkpHKtbGs

[knotty raptor]

I bet they got ya on tape

[hoary barn]

That's literally so true

[knotty raptor]

My super shotgun, blasting all arachnotrons, got the biggest cannon on the field, go and ask your mum

(I could rap for hours)

[hoary barn]

I really need that DOOM helmet

[knotty raptor]

Fr fr

[hoary barn]

Is there anywhere I can buy it, for a good quality but not too expensive?

[knotty raptor]

Spartan slayer could give you one

[hoary barn]

Who?

[knotty raptor]

It's a ytb channel

Just subscribe to him

He offers giveaways for helmets to his subs

[hoary barn]

I subbed

When does he usually do that

I need that helmet ASAP

I've been playing Eternal for over 5 years

Trust me

[empty rose]

Why is Eternal so much harder than 2016 😭

[tacit aspen]

Longer than the game exists

[acoustic lark]

cause it would be boring if it would be the other way around

and of course

[empty rose]

Yeah yeah

[empty rose]

Fr

I've done 2016 twice but have yet to beat Eternal. Working on it every day fr

[acoustic lark]

fr fr 🙅 🧢 ?

[empty rose]

Yes smh

[acoustic lark]

[empty rose]

I just quit Eternal for now
Been up all night playing

It's almost 6am. Haven't slept

[acoustic lark]

go bed

hush hush

[empty rose]

Maybe

My girlfriend is telling me the same thing lol

[lyric lodge]

hush little doomer

sleep needs you

[empty rose]

Lmao

[empty rose]

Nono
I needs sleep

But I don't want it 🤧

[acoustic lark]

I had sleep problems for the last few weeks and months, go take my "old man advise" and get some sleep

[empty rose]

I kinda can't, whether I want to or not

Someone is coming to me with their problems

[knotty raptor]

I wish I could get one too 😭

The channel wants you to click on a link to get selected but I never found it

[knotty raptor]

Is 2016 really that easy?

[empty rose]

Yeahh

[knotty raptor]

I've become too dependent on the eternal meathook

[empty rose]

It's not very hard

[knotty raptor]

Fr?

[empty rose]

I barley use it lol

[empty rose]

Ye

[knotty raptor]

You don't need a wife when you have your ssg with meathook

[knotty raptor]

You should bro it can save you countless times

[empty rose]

I also barely use my abilities

[knotty raptor]

xd

[empty rose]

I depend more on my pew pews

[knotty raptor]

Guns?

[empty rose]

Ye

[knotty raptor]

Did you quick swap in 2016?

[empty rose]

Yeah

[knotty raptor]

So that should at least be a first step in eternal

I ain't a pro yet so I cannot really advise you anything

[empty rose]

Although I keep gettinging controls confused because I've been playing other games like Halo where "Y" is weapon swap 😭

[knotty raptor]

You don't rely on your numbers on the top of the keyboard?

[empty rose]

I already use it in Eternal

[knotty raptor]

Lucky you I wish I could play halo too

[empty rose]

I play Xbox

[knotty raptor]

Wow mad respect

[empty rose]

Tyty

[knotty raptor]

I suck on console xd

Console players are pros

[empty rose]

I suck on PC lol

But I still wish I had one

[knotty raptor]

It's cuz neither you are used to play on PC nor am I used to play on xbox

That's the thing

[empty rose]

I have so many consoles, yet no PC

[empty rose]

Yeah

[knotty raptor]

It's got better frame per second I think

[empty rose]

It does

[knotty raptor]

Thanks to the mouse

[empty rose]

The mouse is op

[knotty raptor]

Fr fr

[empty rose]

You can actually control how fast you turn 😭

[knotty raptor]

Maybe you'd die less had you have a PC

[knotty raptor]

Exactly

[empty rose]

I'm good at like every game on Xbox except for Fortnite

[knotty raptor]

Perhaps you can get yourself a keyboard and connect it to your console...

[knotty raptor]

I got the Slayer skin on fortnite

But I don't play this game anymore

[empty rose]

Idk why
I play just fine on Playstation and Switch

[empty rose]

I have it on my old account

[knotty raptor]

So do I

[knotty raptor]

Mine has grown old too lmao

The only game I play at now is doom eternal

[empty rose]

I wish I had it on my new account

[knotty raptor]

The only game I need in life

[empty rose]

Oof but W

[knotty raptor]

I wish you luck

[empty rose]

Tyty

[knotty raptor]

Wdym

[empty rose]

Wasn't it a battle pass skin?

[empty rose]

Oof that you play only that, but W that it's Eternal

[knotty raptor]

It doesn't matter if you lost the skin cuz you'll always be a true slayer

[knotty raptor]

It was during the season afair

[knotty raptor]

But what does w mean actually?

I've never been hip

[empty rose]

Good

[knotty raptor]

Woww

[empty rose]

I'm not much for it, either

[knotty raptor]

Geez thx

[empty rose]

For?

[knotty raptor]

We're oldie we play the same game after 5 years xD

[knotty raptor]

For ur previous comment

[empty rose]

Lol

[knotty raptor]

.

[empty rose]

I think we've gotten off topic from DOOM Eternal 😭

[empty rose]

Ah yw

[knotty raptor]

Indeed

Makima is the demon I wish I could kill in the new doom game lmao

... I like both doom and animes

[empty rose]

New game?

[knotty raptor]

Yeah there's a new game

[empty rose]

I'm not much for anime

[knotty raptor]

But it's got nothing to do with it

Doom is doom lmao

[empty rose]

What is it

[knotty raptor]

But your pfp...

[empty rose]

Matching with my gf

[knotty raptor]

It's doom the dark ages

[knotty raptor]

Wow u got a chick?

Lucky you

I wish I could have a gf that loves doom too

I'd buy her a shotgun as an act of love

[empty rose]

She doesn't know jack about the games 🤧

[empty rose]

Ooo

[knotty raptor]

Last time I tried to rizz a crush of mine I tried to craft her a knife

[empty rose]

😭

[knotty raptor]

It hurts to hear

Don't worry it was made out of wood

And my friends convinced me not to do that

[empty rose]

Yeah it wasn't the best idea-

[knotty raptor]

So I gave the knife to my lil bro as a result

[knotty raptor]

Why not she likes metal 😭

Plus she had a skull drawn on her butt

[empty rose]

Lmao

[knotty raptor]

🤣

Thank God I didn't let her know that

[empty rose]

Know what-?

[knotty raptor]

This observation

[empty rose]

Ah

[knotty raptor]

Whatever

Are there any girls in this server ? 🤣

[empty rose]

Just me frfr

[knotty raptor]

From France?

[knotty raptor]

Wait what???

[empty rose]

What

[knotty raptor]

Wait

Ur a girl?

[empty rose]

Yeah?

[knotty raptor]

I tho you were male

[empty rose]

Why assume I'm not 😭

[knotty raptor]

Idk

[sharp anchor]

xd

[knotty raptor]

Dang that was hell of an awkward question xd

[empty rose]

Lol

[slow sigil]

Spring's bio is super duper obvious queer gal bio

[empty rose]

Lmao