doom-eternal

[uncut crag]

on xbox

[wintry raptor]

I have doom 2016 but on ps5 go to #doom-2016 and ask their you'll find someone

[uncut crag]

no body will respond

violet night

is typing.

hello

[coarse ledge]

If anyone plays Xbox we need like 1 person for a private lobby we’re just messing around

[uncut crag]

i can

whats your username

[coarse ledge]

Dm

[uncut crag]

what does dm mean

[coarse ledge]

Check your messages

[stiff meteor]

add me on pc @ kxny

new to playing but an og in watching others play 💀

[burnt moss]

Eternal is on sale for $18 on switch for the next couple days

[slow sigil]

exciting ig?

[meager swallow]

eternal on switch

[tropic jewel]

In a nutshell the 2005 movie is based off the doom 3 game. Why can't we get a proper insane intense bloody great effects movie based off the first or second game with the super shotgun thrown in akin to dread the 2012 movie with Karl Urban or the raid movies?

[slow sigil]

cause noone with enough movie-influence is interested in making it

[slow sigil]

@rough laurel the hell you typing

[ornate verge]

An entire essay

[rough laurel]

I don't even know my chain of thought from trying to respond to one guy vanished lol

I'm gunna go back to my Part one DLC Nightmare run

[azure forum]

You get used to it especially to the 30fps.

[tacit dove]

any pc players trynaa play??:?

[unborn berry]

why do people use rocket launcher + pb quickswitch?

[slow sigil]

cause it does loads of damage and is fast

[unborn berry]

so does ballista + rocket launcher or ballista + pb

[slow sigil]

those are less fast

[unborn berry]

oh

[pure shore]

Hmm🤔🤔🤔

[meager swallow]

pb = plasma burst?

[uncut crag]

can ssomeone play doom 2016 on xbox

[meager swallow]

youd have more luck asking in the doom 2016 channel

[uncut crag]

no i dont nobody will reaspond

[meager swallow]

well then theres no one who can right now

[uncut crag]

but i just found someone on here but they left

[slow sigil]

that's not a thing
PB is precision bolt

[slow sigil]

physically impossible, the xbox will atomically explode

[uncut crag]

anyways can somebody play doom 2016 with me

[meager swallow]

ooooh

hows the plasma rifle mod called then i forgot

[meager swallow]

i dont even have an xbox

[slow sigil]

heat blast

[meager swallow]

oh. im stupid thanks

[uncut crag]

ok then just say no

so can someone play doom 2016 multiplay on xbox

[ebon mirage]

Get it on steam

[uncut crag]

i cant buy it

who is violet night

any ways doom 2016 multiplayer on xbox

[meager swallow]

i don't think you'll achieve anything by asking the same people over and over

[uncut crag]

ok well neather will you telling me to stop

[meager swallow]

even on steam 2016 multiplayer is kinda dead

[ebon mirage]

Really? Getting the achievements for it is gonna suck then

[meager swallow]

sadly

[uncut crag]

wate you guys hove doom on steam right

[ebon mirage]

Yeah

[meager swallow]

yeah i'm a PC player

[uncut crag]

we just need to load into a multiplayer match and we will get in a party

[meager swallow]

no crossplay unfortunately

[ebon mirage]

Yeah no crossplay

[uncut crag]

oh

[ebon mirage]

Dude, talking about multiplayer, i wish eternal had a 1v1 slayer mode

[meager swallow]

and I'm not willing to get an Xbox to help a stranger get into a Doom match

[uncut crag]

i know

[ebon mirage]

Then why are you asking???

[uncut crag]

because i like this doom multiplayer more and i cant level up in practice mode

[ebon mirage]

You are confusing

[meager swallow]

first off you're asking to play 2016 in the eternal channel and i think if we were to be willing to play 2016 we would check the 2016 channel instead

[uncut crag]

nobody will reaspond

[tacit dove]

id play with u man

[uncut crag]

ok you on xbox

[tacit dove]

if i had doom 2016

[uncut crag]

i hate you

[tacit dove]

lolsorry

its true tho i would play tho brodi

[minor vessel]

dom

[uncut crag]

oh

okyou have gamepass tho

[tacit dove]

lol ps4 user

[uncut crag]

oh

can any body play doom 2016 with me

[late pewter]

Doom Eternal is... done!

Final fight is 1000x better then from Doom.

Now on to the DLC.

Not a bad (lenght) campaign. How much more content does ancients gods offers?

[unborn berry]

The DLC milestone skins seem kinda lame

[unborn berry]

I'd say about 2/3 of the length, but fewer secrets/lore, no progression, and more demons. The environments are also a bit different, some prefer them, and they are very beautiful, but they can also be a bit annoying at times (e.g invisible walls)

[barren spear]

the ending

[late pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/love-gif-24777608

[meager swallow]

they kinda are sadly

[barren spear]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/853716396075778058/1203784659738304512/speed.gif

[meager swallow]

the ending is so good lmfao

[barren spear]

ong

[meager swallow]

no spoilers 🤫

[barren spear]

can't wait to replay Eternal

[meager swallow]

yea im replaying it on UN now

since ive only played on HMP

[barren spear]

the only thing stopping me is fuckin uhh

Doom 2016 Nightmare mode

driving me crazy❤️

[burnt moss]

In case someone was waiting

[vale pebble]

Try plutonia on nightmare

(i gave up)

[barren spear]

ion got them

[late pewter]

I'll just play on UV, I'll save that kind of pain for the bedroom.

[tropic jewel]

Yeah I'd say both of those directors for those films would be a long shot even the director for wick I'd say wouldn't happen. I'm sure we will get a movie that will be a feature film just don't know what how or when but I'm sure it'll happen

[uncut crag]

if you play in a private game on doom 2016 do you get xp

[ebon mirage]

Can't send images

[vale pebble]

ok

(image links)

[unborn berry]

Is doomguy himself explicitly aligned with the ARC resistance or do they just work together to kill demons?

[glossy warren]

Since SPC HC's discord invite is invalid, does anyone have a link to resources for doom audio mixing?

I just need a guide on where to find and how to use the files

I'm pretty sure there's a reddit but I can't find it

[unborn berry]

because the carrier acts like the fortress of doom in the sense that it's where you're at before teleporting, right? I thought so too but my conclusion was that they're so scared of him so if he wants to stay there there's nothing they can do lol

[solid quiver]

the slayer gates are gonna be so annoying on nightmare i just knoenit

[slim thunder]

Does anyone know how to do big jumps with the ballista plz ?

[young mango]

pretty much just get off the ground and fire the ballista in the opposite of the direction you want to go, if you can bunnyhop it’s a good way of maintaining speed but if you can’t bunnyhop just do a midair jump to gain more distance

[tacit dove]

its the little mistakes that hurt the most

[young mango]

like wat

[slim thunder]

Okay thx

[young mango]

also if you have air control it’s advised you hold your movement keys in what direction you’re moving

[slim thunder]

Yeah I see

And another question, why on the controller I can't do the quick weapon change?

Yeah ik that but okay

[novel token]

It's possible but you need to get timing on point, startingwith precision bolt helps, makes swapping faster

[slim thunder]

Thanks 👍

[novel token]

There is, you can bind weapons to buttons

Nope, aiming is annoying, everything else is almost the same

All your inputs, swapping, jumping, firing, etc

[tacit dove]

what are yall playing doom on

[glossy warren]

ps

[tacit dove]

dope

[uncut crag]

xbox

[tropic jewel]

Get pedals for controller and also key bind with what you have you can r3 a weapon like SSG for now
I dm you the controls scheme I use and unless you get a back pedal or pedal controller you really can do 3 weapons

[novel token]

Depends on the play style but you can get up to 5 weapons binds on controller; personally I don't use weapon mod, crucible and switching grenades buttons, so I fill all the Dpad and L3 with weapons:

• Mission info
• Crucible
• Switch Weapon Mod
• Switch Equipment
• L3
  I get rid of those and there you have 5 weapon swaps

[barren spear]

https://tenor.com/view/wassup-sup-kid-doom-doom-slayer-gif-26144015

u mean this?

[glossy warren]

not sure if anyone here has dabbled in audio mixing but I used Wwise Unpacker to extract the music from DE, but when I follow this guide (ttps://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/fn1ra7/guide_extracting_all_the_music_from_doom_eternal/, put an h at the front) the files don't end up in OGG as the guide says it should. anyone have an idea of what I'm doing wrong?

the terminal saying the unpacking is done pops up immediately, which tells me something's wrong EVEN THOUGH I have the 2 music files in the "Game Files" folder

The one server I know that could do this is either deleted or all the invites happen to be invalid, so I'm resorting to this server

[south grove]

Had a spirit-buffed Marauder in Hordes

that sucked so much lmao

[azure oriole]

Is there a pack with just the original design for doom guy?

[tropic jewel]

Oh man I now only have extra lives mode and the achievement for eternal and I get my platinum for the game and I'm so happy and relieved

[ashen coral]

How do i gets good ats doom eternal?

how?

[brittle aurora]

I’m still working towards 200 kills. I want to get the online trophies out of the way first

[brittle aurora]

Practice and YouTube video has great tips and advice

[ashen coral]

thx

[young mango]

you might want to carve your own path though, because I’ll be honest most of the people who make tutorials are novices themselves

nothing wrong with taking fundamentals from flawed tutorials though

[ashen coral]

ok

[young mango]

just avoid underthemayo, that dude is probably the worst doom content creator I’ve seen in terms of skill, and it’s even worse now that ontop of being wrong, even the right parts are becoming outdated because he hasn’t posted since like 2021

[ashen coral]

ok

[brittle aurora]

It’s okay not to be good at the game for a while. There is a lot to learn. Just take your time

[ashen coral]

I have gotten through a lot of the game on Nightmare difficulty but it was through persistence not skill.

[slow sigil]

Hey the falter video is a great introductionary

That's about it though

[young mango]

it is, but the video is definitely geared towards beginners, i mean there’s stuff he could’ve included that wouldn’t have made it any less beginner friendly like just giving actually hp values and stuff

[foggy kestrel]

Alguien español?

[rotund notch]

Why does everyone hate towards underthemayo is it cuz of that ultrakill stuff?

I'm not trying to ride his dick

I'm just wondering 🤔

[young mango]

no he also just is bad at doom and as a result when he tries giving other bad players advice it doesn’t end very well

he got popular by making review videos about it, as far as him trying to give people advice, that’s not his lane of expertise

[real kettle]

How long is the typical first play through? Playing on ultra-violence, I just want to know before I play

[rotund notch]

@young mango ah okay

[rotund notch]

It can be around like 5 to 6 hours

[rotund notch]

Yea I have watched some reviews of he's

[austere bronze]

5-6 hours??

Its more like 12-15 hours

[empty basin]

tbh I think he's ok as a starting point, especially since I don't think there's really any other youtubers who have Doom Eternal guides that match his production quality, at least none that I know of

The only thing I'd say to watch out for are just whenever he recommends Full Auto and Remote Detonation

Gameplay style variety is good and all, but I feel like newbies trying to use those 2 weapon mods would just get themselves killed a lot of the time

Full Auto encourages tunnel vision without having the damage payoff that makes the risk worth it, while Remote Detonation sort of encourages you to blow up a rocket right in your face when you get surrounded

Not to mention how unreliable its mastery is

[rotund notch]

Oh yea it's been awhile since I played a casual play through

[rotund notch]

Yea I personally don't use full auto but ive tried it some times and I find it kinda fun but not to mention I have over 400 hours in doom eternal

So I agree that beginners would not have it so easy with full auto/remote detonation

[slow sigil]

It's also just straight up worthless cause you can't really swap whilst using it, and it also just does less splash then a regular rocket

[young mango]

it does the same amount of splash it’s just since it’s just splash you could never hope to reach an equivalent amount of damage with it

[empty basin]

And this hasn't even touched on its competitor being Lock-On Rockets

[unborn berry]

I don't like full auto cause it locks you in place, I like to fly around the map. But the devs try to shoehorn it in in various places like Immora just before the Dark Lord or wherever there are stone imps anyway. That's pretty fun, I like mowing down trash mobs. It's also kinda useful in the early game when you don't have that many mods

[young mango]

even though stone imps suck at least they’re few and far between, as for that final arena in immora you can just spam dblade

[unborn berry]

i like the stone imps, they test my mouse tracking ability

[empty basin]

Not to mention that what they have is simply damage resistance, not damage nullification

so you can just treat them as imp-sized heavy demons and use your other guns

[unborn berry]

sounds like too much effort just to not use full auto

[empty basin]

Of course when it's just Stone Imps around it might be more efficient to just switch to Full Auto, but I'm mainly referring to times when there are other demons aside from just Stone Imps, and switching to Full Auto takes too much time

[unborn berry]

in the arenas where they appear apart from immora you can also just hammer them if you really just hate full auto with a passion

[young mango]

You used to be able to do this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stqwh9Vhno0

[unborn berry]

even in those arenas i just switch to full auto ahead of time since i rarely use grenade launcher anyway

[unborn berry]

what changed?

[young mango]

I’m assuming the old trigger for despawning the barrier was “kill all stone imps” and you technically kill all stone imps by killing all of them at once before new ones have the chance to spawn, with new ones still spawning after the barrier goes down, but now they probably added a new trigger for ending the encounter

[unborn berry]

ah

[young mango]

5.1 is my favorite patch because i love me a good TAG2 speedrun, so I still get to do this

[unborn berry]

i always assumed those barriers had a quota of kills to meet for each type of demon since sometimes (especially in the DLC levels) you gotta spend a minute or two cleaning up fodder after most of the big demons are dead

[young mango]

downpatching is kinda easy, and seeing as how most people own the game on steam anyways i don’t understand why it isn’t more common

[young mango]

well, doom eternal is notorious for weird quotas, the first fountain in world spear can be activated by the death of an enemy that is touching/slightly clipped into it, because the requirement for activation isn’t the wolf, its basically just “AI yes, slayer no”

say it in #general also garten of banban better

[unborn berry]

this mf got nephroblastoma

[small helm]

both are bad, case closed

[soft moss]

Does anyone know the final answer to doom eternal constantly freezing where only going out from game focus and back fixes it (like alt tabbing etc)? I've tried to find the answer on forums but none of them worked

[tulip wave]

guys hpw to beat zombies

[spring panther]

punch them a billion times

[austere bronze]

BFG at their face

[wintry raptor]

Explosive mod on your combat shotgun or grenade or better a rocket launcher

[wintry raptor]

That's a waste of bfg Amo

[austere bronze]

Nuh uh

You should probably shoot both your BFG charges just to be safe

[azure oriole]

Does Doom eternal have some %0-100 progress bar in somewhere??

[hearty ore]

no

not that i noticed

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-crying-crying-mario-stairs-gif-20008055

[hearty ore]

sad

[azure oriole]

Damn, how im going to do 100% game without knowing my progress

[hearty ore]

map has progress

and it tells you what you did not do

so that you can do it

so its not all bad

there just isn't a progress bar

[young mango]

there’s a combat and collectible counter at the end of a level and on the mission select

[hearty ore]

yes

@young mango

you barely talk

[azure oriole]

Yeah, but what about the battle things and secrets btw? Do i have to do all the levels again just to read it?

[azure oriole]

Yeah, im going to try this so

[hearty ore]

this

read the messages i sent

[young mango]

i only talk when I feel like I have something to add, talking for the sake of talking is draining

[hearty ore]

message if you found this help full in a robotic voice

do it more often

its fun to talk

if you want a topic...

i can bring one up

dont worry about it

@young mango do you like the sound track

consider it a social exercise

come on

[young mango]

can you wait a minute? I’m actively typing my response

[hearty ore]

ok ok

[young mango]

Haven’t listened to it much but I’d say for the campaign soundtrack it sounds less gritty then doom 2016, the songs more often then not use lower pitched strums and there’s more usage of drums in the eternal soundtrack, and the DLC soundtrack is good as well, David Levy’s stuff is often slower in tempo and has a less catchy rhythm

[hearty ore]

i guess

[young mango]

also I’m going to stop talking after this because I’m going to sleep

[hearty ore]

do you like the vocals in the "damnation"

song

[hearty ore]

drained your social battery

lol

[young mango]

nah man it’s 7:36am and I’ve been up all night

[hearty ore]

oh god

it's 7am already

wtf

oh god

[young mango]

well idk your timezone could be different

[hearty ore]

its 7am

oh no

i need to sleep

good night

good morning i guess

[tropic jewel]

Extra lives mode could've been new game plus for eternal. Instead of starting from scratch I think doing a new game plus extra lives mode with remixes like the master levels. And you keep your progress on the secrets and all from the main save slot so you have all the upgrades. That would've been neat to see

[hearty ore]

bye

[hearty ore]

nice suggestion

ok... i need to sleep now

bye

[wintry raptor]

You kinda got a point ngl

[tropic jewel]

The idea comes from the Batman games. I'm a huge Batman fan so I definitely nabbed Arkham City and asylum for the platinum, the new game plus modes for those games does what I described and it's really a great way to replay a game

[shy wharf]

can i spoil sumthin about eternal that players who didnt beat game wont know

[tropic jewel]

Please share

[shy wharf]

when you beat final sin and collect all the toys you get an icon of sin figure

[tropic jewel]

I did notice the figure when I went back to the collector room in the fortress. I figured it came from that boss battle

[tropic jewel]

I stopped this morning to think about the speed runs that would happen if extra lives mode was new game plus. There would definitely be some records I'm sure

[wintry raptor]

Bro I'm still trying to complete some of the challenges till now I never miss any secrets and I complete the mission challenges and everything I'm almost about to finish the campaign challenges then ancient gods challenges then the rest

[tropic jewel]

Yeah I cleaned all that up on my main save this weekend and then got the multiplayer cheevos

[wintry raptor]

I have exams so it's kinda hard to free up some time to actually have the ability to play doom

But like in the weekends I have a better opportunity to play doom and finish a lot of challenges and to clean up the game on my main save

[azure oriole]

oh, sorry, I hadn't seen it lol I'm busy right now

But thanks btw, i think that is what i want

[tropic jewel]

Same. Except a 28 year old has work lol. I work Mon through Friday 8-5 and go to bed at midnight. My playtime is after work and I get a lot done that way. This past week I took Friday off and spent the whole entire weekend eternal to get progression as much as possible.

[wintry raptor]

Lol kinda the same thing we both can only play on weekends rarely

[tropic jewel]

I get a lot of time in after work though too. But I got all the battlemode event items, ranked 36 on the leaderboard for demons last time I looked, got like 9 hot streak cards, and that was just battlemode.
I'll one day go tackle master levels and horde

Anyone know when the winter event ends? For battlemode

[wintry raptor]

Would you believe me if I tell you that I never played battlemode I just got the game a week ago but only played for 2 days and completed only 80% of the game 😂

But I will try to get some time to play more and complete the game and challenges and start battlemode

But I first have to complete ancient gods part 1 and 2 and horde mode because I bought the deluxe edition because it was 75% off

[tropic jewel]

I got the game through the ps plus catalog. I have the premium service for ps plus, so I also have access to doom 1 2 and 64 as well but I got eternal last month mid January or so and started playing it more and more. I'm debating on the dlc

[wintry raptor]

I have all the doom games so whenever I'm bored from one I go to the other and I have every dlc edition and everything owned and I got some of them from the ps catalogue

[wintry raptor]

Tbh dlc's are good because when you finish the game and learn everything about it you can start playing the dlc and act as if you just started by meaning you'll not get bored becuz you'd have a lot of games in 1 basically

On a daily basis I play a lot of games including doom but till now for the past week whenever I had time to play I would play doom eternal

[slow sigil]

If you like the game you'll love the dlc

[tropic jewel]

Well besides the lore which I know is you love it or don't. What does the dlc do in terms of learning for me? Like why should I get it?

I need convincing guys 😀

[slow sigil]

I mean qua lore for tag2 it's just stupid
But who plays doom for the lore whilst disliking the gameplay

[slow sigil]

It just continues the gameplay loop
If you don't want... more of the game then idk what to tell you

[wintry raptor]

It helps you experience new boss fights or battles

[wintry raptor]

Plus it adds more to the game if you love the game

You should try out ancient gods and trust me you won't regret it @tropic jewel

[tropic jewel]

Okay I see now what you guys are saying. I was leaning towards purchasing the dlc and I definitely will one day now 👌

[wintry raptor]

Rly??

[wintry raptor]

Ok that's very good actually

[tropic jewel]

Yep and I am thinking about 100 percenting doom 1 2 and 64 from PlayStation ports to platinum those. And am thinking about getting the PlayStation ports for quake 1 and 2

[wintry raptor]

Nice

[hybrid jungle]

Got doom eternal a day ago, i dont remember exactly but im at some point after defeating Marauder (crucible axe guy)

Super Shotgun fun af ngl

[tropic jewel]

But I also wanna get back to battlefield bc that game is my other bread and butter. I've got 15 hundred or so hours in BFV and 2042 is also fun

[wintry raptor]

Yea it's op and very good I maxed it out

[balmy leaf]

Just play tag1, tag2 sux

[tropic jewel]

SSG is a good gun still but it's not the be all end all

[wintry raptor]

Tbh I'm just trying to finish the campaign and challenges then I'll get into battlemode

[tropic jewel]

That's the only strat I've used or seen

[wintry raptor]

Nahhh srry that's the best way to do it

[tropic jewel]

Yeah I've got other doom stuff and some other games to play myself

[hybrid jungle]

yeah im im just saying it my fav so far

[balmy leaf]

U gotta shoot lock on rockets into the heavens and have them rain down on his shield with righteous fury while you deliver the pain to his knee caps

[hybrid jungle]

its good for those mfs that like to jump around bcuz of the hook

[wintry raptor]

Same and it's harder when you have school and exams

I gtg I'll be back in a bit

[hybrid jungle]

Doom Eternal has like 10 hours or so of gameplay?

[tropic jewel]

I have alott of free time between after work and the weekends

[wintry raptor]

Lucky but my exams have like a week left so after that ill probably have a lot of time to play but even in the exams in weekends I would be available to play

[tropic jewel]

Really you have to get that sweet spot for the distance of the marauder to get that SSG and ballista going well and you just doge everything wait for the green eyes shoot SSG then shoot ballista and repeat a few times till glory kill

[tropic jewel]

That's awesome for you. I find that being an adult since I moved away from parents, I have so much free time to do what I want after I work my job lol

[slow sigil]

Said "sweet spot" is literally any distance but his asscrack after he attacked

[wintry raptor]

Yea me too but when I have exams it's kinda hard but I always find time

[tropic jewel]

Elaborate a little more please. I stay close enough to not get that axe throw and dog

[slow sigil]

Closeby he shotguns
Any other distance and he can green eye
Dogs aren't automatic but as a reaction to his shield being hit
After axe throw he usually runs towards you and green eyes

[tropic jewel]

Oh okay

[wintry raptor]

That's why you should be in the middle no close and not far and just keep moving while shooting him so that you can dodge everything

[tropic jewel]

Yeah that's what I do. It took me two encounters to get that strategy

[wintry raptor]

Yea at the beginning it's hard but then you kinda get used to it

[slow sigil]

Except that being far is also good

The tooltip is misleading

[wintry raptor]

But it's still efficient plus being far will make him damage you less with the axe

[slow sigil]

Less*
The ranged attack is much less of an threat then the melee

[wintry raptor]

True

[weak rapids]

Just decided to get the 2nd dlc. How long would it take a normal person to play through it?

Ok

Good. I tend to do speedruns so that will be nice for a change

[tropic jewel]

I really feel like the master levels and the regular levels that the master levels are based off of have the design to do speed runs also

Eternal definitely has enough content to record for really cool gameplay moments and speed running. All of which is in stunning high def with great frames and all, this doom is great for capturing videos

Oh snap I forgot about those too lol I def have screenshots

😂 I photograph anything in a game that catches my eye and looks great

Red dead for example is one such game

[inner moth]

I completed mastery for ss

[tropic jewel]

SS?

[inner moth]

Yea

[tropic jewel]

Where do I get that level?

[vale pebble]

It's Cultist base

It's like the 3rd or 4th level I think

[tropic jewel]

Got it

I haven't done the master levels yet. What should I expect of them?

[vale pebble]

they are fun but some are extremely difficult for casual players

[tropic jewel]

More tyrants and marauders an doom hunters and cyber types I'm guessing?

[vale pebble]

I haven't played them all but that's all I know

ive only done the super gore nest, arc complex, and mars core master levels

On UV I never did anything harder than that

[tropic jewel]

I don't play uv but I'm sure they're fun to play regardless.

[vale pebble]

Yeah they are

[tropic jewel]

The icon of sin level could've been another master one I think

[slow sigil]

they didn't have time making more

[tropic jewel]

Hey I don't fault them for that given what we got from them. But that level I feel is structured in a way that a master level would be awesome........ That also means someone could mod that level on PC

But on a separate note I absolutely love the Mars level for the campaign and the battlemode. I wish we could've had more it's def a favorite backdrop of mine

[undone agate]

I need a favourite from 2 people on ps5

I wanna platinum it

[slow sigil]

latest MLs came after the quarantine

[undone agate]

But I need the kill bloodbath and truce between demons achievement

Oh ok

U mean to do battle mode right?

[tropic jewel]

I got those this weekend and the other battlemode achievements. I have extra lives as the last trophy to platinum the game

[undone agate]

I’ll do that later

Sad

[undone agate]

Is it cross platform?

[tropic jewel]

Cross gen not platform

[undone agate]

Could you please help me?

[tropic jewel]

Yes I DM you a message offering help just read that

[undone agate]

What do u play on tho

[tropic jewel]

Ps5

[undone agate]

Ok thanks

[tropic jewel]

The game is cross gen so you can at least play with ps5 and ps4 players

[undone agate]

I can call in a favor who could be the 3rd person

Technically I have a trio but the third guy hates me (salty cuz his country is getting bombed)

[tropic jewel]

I am at work I can after I get off and home which will be at 5. It's 11 37 here mate

[undone agate]

That won’t work

It’s 18:38 here

Will weekend work?

[tropic jewel]

Yes I am usually available on the weekends that's how this past one I got all the battlemode achievements

[undone agate]

Oh u play Red Dead Redemption 2

[tropic jewel]

Sure do

[undone agate]

I’m planning on plating it to

[tropic jewel]

I've debated that but I need to go look at what I have for trophies again

[undone agate]

U have 500 hours on it

How have u not platted yet

[tropic jewel]

I play online. I beat the whole story once even the epilogue and didn't go back. Before eternal I was doing the daily challenges and doing things to stack up my gold and money

[undone agate]

Fair

I am going for the plat but I will not enjoy the online trophies

[tropic jewel]

I have 1500 hours in battlefield 5 lol and I'm also racking hours up for 2042. I like me some multiplayer lol
Online trophies are definitely hit or miss depending on the criteria I also dread them sometimes

[undone agate]

Lvl 50 Red Dead online is an achievement

What edition u got

[tropic jewel]

Oh I'm lvl 110 or so and I just have the standard version

[undone agate]

Also can I give u the layout of the 200 kills

[tropic jewel]

For eternal?

[undone agate]

Ye

I think the most efficient way is for me too have slayer and u 2 be demons

[tropic jewel]

I have all the battlemode ones. I just literally have to do the extra lives one for the platinum and that's it for this base game

[undone agate]

I’m currently on hore nest of extra lives

[tropic jewel]

I haven't booted the file up yet so you're farther than me lol

[undone agate]

When 1 respawns I’ll kill the other

You 2 could be afk if u want to

[tropic jewel]

Yeah I farmed them like that yesterday

[undone agate]

My friend did it on ITYTD but I’m doing it on nightmare

[undone agate]

lol

By the way request sent

[tropic jewel]

I'm gonna cheese it myself
Yesterday I farmed kills. Got to round four so they could do their buffs for the truce achievement and worked it that way also gave them their damage achievement in the same private match

[tropic jewel]

I lost it so I sent one back

[undone agate]

I don’t have anyone to do it with

On discord or ps

Ok thx

[tropic jewel]

Both now lol
Yeah I got people through here and going down the recent tab in the menu and just sent out requests and got people that way to by messaging then for help and most reached back out and also needed farming

[undone agate]

lol

And what edition of doom u got?

(Eternal)

[tropic jewel]

Just the standard. I have the premium ps plus sub and have access to this doom 1 2 and 64

[undone agate]

I personally was obsessed with the fire slayer so I bought the deluxe one

[tropic jewel]

Since I got the marine outfit I haven't switched but I also looked at the other outfits I unlock just nothing has gotten me to change the fit

The classic green one

[undone agate]

I like the ripoff marauder too

But I much prefer fire slayer

Sometimes I switch to super sparkle slayer tho

[tropic jewel]

Yeah I can see that being awesome to have. I bought the package that gave me the classic stages and revanant stuff and title back rounds ect

[undone agate]

The uac pack?

[tropic jewel]

I can't see it on the ps app but I think that was the name. It's the 8.99 one

[undone agate]

All cosmetic packs cost 8.99

[tropic jewel]

Oh well I'll have to look at it when I get home and report back with the name of the package

[undone agate]

Fair

[lyric isle]

I got gifted DOOM Eternal on steam

[tropic jewel]

Consider that an awesome christmas or birthday gift lol

[lyric isle]

Its not chrismas or my birthday but i am still very happy and greatful

[knotty raptor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej4I9ah31GY

idk why but i really love it

[azure oriole]

Yo

[knotty raptor]

hi

[low olive]

holy shit doom eternal is fun

i’ve been playing it for a few hours straight and i haven’t felt bored since

[ivory dew]

hey, i know wrong server but the battlemode one is pretty dead, i have a few milestones in battlemode left and would anyone like to play?

[random vault]

no

[tropic jewel]

So the spider master mind. In modern doom that's aracnotron right?

Okay I get that lore. What games do they feature in besides eternal. I know spider master mind was in doom 1 and RPG at least and eternal has aracnotrons. On that note why did they rename cyber demons to tyrants?

[slow sigil]

cause the 2016 boss was different ig
and because "cyber demon" was a bit vague considering that... nearly every demon is cybernetic
plus tyrant just sounds cooler imo

[tropic jewel]

Right I'm strictly talking eternal but I do agree now that you put it that way

[slow sigil]

i mean if you're strictly talking eternal, why care about a rename

[azure oriole]

crazy ahh chat

[empty basin]

Pretty sure it's just to differentiate them from 2016's Cyberdemons, who serves as a boss enemy

[tropic jewel]

Okay more doom 1 and 2 to eternal is what I'm referring to mainly but i got my questions answered

[empty basin]

while Tyrants are merely Super Heavy demons in the same tier as Barons

[tropic jewel]

Yeah maybe that's why they didn't have barons in eternal

Do explain

[empty basin]

The Fireborne Barons have evolved from the descendant clan of the Baron hell breed, and are indigenous to the caustic, scorched hellscapes bordering the Burning Abyss. A landscape of cragged spires forged from unbreakable Blackstone, tempered by the crashing waves of the magmatic tide, these sulfuric planes of Hell have long served as banishing grounds - a place of the exodus to which the damned are sentenced as their final destination. The Fireborne Barons have evolved in this environment, sustaining themselves on the remnants of the damned, growing obsidian carapaces and in time becoming infused with the very incendiary matter of Hell itself.```

It's just one search away

[slow sigil]

ok but then you have to actually look at what the game says smh

[tropic jewel]

Hold on there guys

[empty basin]

I'm referring to the meta reason rather than the in-universe reason

As in, reason why the devs made it that way

[tropic jewel]

Playing a level In eternal, you come across a tyrant and know it is one bc the cyber demon classic look, I have yet to see the baron in eternal unless I slaughtered it and didn't realize

[empty basin]

You first encounter a Baron in Mars Core, which is before the first encounter of a Tyrant in Nekravol Part I

[slow sigil]

you forget the gate in ARC

[tropic jewel]

I'm talking in general not a specific level but the icon of sin has a section where 2 tyrants spawn with other big demons as well

[slow sigil]

replay checkpoint

[empty basin]

ah right right

[tropic jewel]

I'll make sure to pay attention next time then

[empty basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772588531415384086/1204185738481246248/ss_9cdf861c8ac2d7fa7e1f2a88673032bc3a6c6114.png
This is the Baron

[tropic jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

I totally knew that 🤣

I had me a moment everyone lol

The dread knights are a cool new demon. The drones however I feel are rubbish

[slow sigil]

yeah they should've given less resources

[tropic jewel]

Not sure what you mean. I'm talking they're useless in battlemode bc they just shoot little bolts and are easy to take down in either game mode, and the design is a bit lacking.

[solid quiver]

time to do my ultra nightmare run

[slow sigil]

they give wayyyy too much for just a headshot

[tropic jewel]

That's true as well

I picked up playing as him yesterday and I don't know if I have any skins

2 v1 arena gameplay. It is fun to do a run of matches

It's first to three wins for rounds. And there have been plenty of moments in matches that have made me feel alive if you know what I mean just like the campaign stuff. It's a solid game mode and has its own system for cosmetic unlocks

I feel for you though mate, wish I could gift you a year for ps plus

[tacit aspen]

I played some Battlemode today, was fun even though I didn't really know what I was doing, and I couldn't get any kills. It was my first time though

[tropic jewel]

I pay for the year price and forget it til it's due and that has worked so well for me

[tropic jewel]

Just keep at it, it gets fun and also try different demons and abilities and buffs as well

[tacit aspen]

Thanks :) I think I'll do that every day a few matches. Maybe I can get all the achievements which are listed in Steam, I don't think I can get the ones which are listed in the game (Ultra Nightmare, it's hard for me)

[tropic jewel]

You're welcome. What achievements are you talking about? I haven't done uv and haven't seen any that require that setting. The achievements for the base game are all able to obtained without a specific difficulty I believe besides the multiplayer ones of course

[tacit aspen]

"Defeat Samuel on Nightmare" "Finish the campaign on Ultra Nightmare" "TAG1 too" "TAG2 as well lol" stuff like that, it can be seen inside the game.

Steam has different achievements, I have them all except for Battlemode

[tropic jewel]

Oh yeah I remember the dlc has nightmare ones lol. I also am on ps5 but the base game without dlc can be platinum without nightmare in play

[solid quiver]

ok un is gonna be alot harder after realizing there is no extra lifes

[solid quiver]

i thought i was gonna be able to cheese it by just collecting a bunch of extra lifes 😔

[tacit aspen]

That's the whole point, lol. I can't get past the first mission on UN, I die too easily

[tropic jewel]

Well that's steep there but I suppose that pits the ultra in UV

[solid quiver]

i just beat my run of nightmare a couple days ago so im right back at it with ultra nightmare

[tacit aspen]

You can try Extra Life mode on Nightmare before you go for UN

[solid quiver]

im thinking of doing extra life mode after UN for the achivement

[tropic jewel]

Which missions did you do for nightmare run? The regular campaign right

[solid quiver]

yeah

[tropic jewel]

Okay

[tacit aspen]

I have that, on ITYTD, but I have it lol

[solid quiver]

probs gonna do every master level on nightmare one day just to seem cool

[solid quiver]

probs what im gonna do when i do my extra life run lol

[tropic jewel]

I'll do the ml on ultra violence

[solid quiver]

im thinking of doing every mastery on every difficulty soon

[tropic jewel]

And the extra lives trophy is my last one period and I'm thinking of ITYTD just to get my platinum lol

[tacit aspen]

I'm just happy you can do so much on easy difficulties, and the game always rewards you with stuff. Another reason why I love it so much

[tropic jewel]

Amen!!!

[solid quiver]

i think on my ps4 i had a itytd run with every collectable thing

cheat codes toys stuff like that

[tropic jewel]

I only have the ps5 file

[solid quiver]

im did my nightmare on ps5 and im doing un on ps5 also

[solid quiver]

i also did every slayer gate

hard sometimes because they dont allow cheats which makes sense

[tacit aspen]

I did a nightmare run once, it was a grind for me, I always had to go back to earlier levels with the unlimited extra lives cheat code enabled. It's a 100% save file, I always try to get 100%

[tropic jewel]

I did ultra violence til the first hell mission then turned on easiest and collected all the secrets and got the upgrades then went to finish the rest of the campaign and cleaned up those secrets as I went through it and kept it on ITYTD lol

[solid quiver]

i forgot i could do that so i was always at like 2-3 extra lives at most

im also gonna 100% my nightmare save file

[tropic jewel]

I'm thinking about doing a nightmare file after I plat the game

[solid quiver]

nice

[tacit aspen]

Yeah. I can't imagine a UN run since I'm still not that good. I notice progress still, I bought this game not quite a year ago so I'm still learning

[tropic jewel]

Just to have the more intense fun than ultra violence and still have the extra lives

[solid quiver]

i got this game 2 years ago but im always coming back to it

[tropic jewel]

Also I used cheats and had so much fun when I went to get the collectibles that first time lol

[solid quiver]

i have a grind doom phase every once in a while

[tacit aspen]

It's addictive :D

[solid quiver]

cheats are fun lol

[solid quiver]

yep

[tropic jewel]

I actually used them when I was cleaning up the earth collectibles and it was a blast

[solid quiver]

i think thats what i did for my ps4 save file

probs whst im gonna do once i get every cheat code

[tropic jewel]

Yeah sure made the slayer gates a breeze lol and same here

Def gonna use cheats more

[tacit aspen]

I used berserk, and Sentinel armor on Arc complex once, it was so much fun

[solid quiver]

love berserk

[tropic jewel]

Those are the only two I haven't used. I did have to use sentinel I'm the campaign like twice though

[tacit aspen]

Yeah, the game tends to offer it to you when you die often enough during a boss fight. Happened to me the first time I fought against the Khan Maykr

[tropic jewel]

The doom hunter first encounter with the 2 and gladiator gave me a whirl on UV and so I used the sentinel armor and said screw it lol

[young mango]

it’s been forever since I’ve used sentinel armor i forgor it was a thing

[tacit aspen]

I didn't understand it yet. Floor is lava, and I was too slow with the Meathook

[solid quiver]

im just now realizing how annoying the boss fights are gonna be when i have to restart the entire thing when i die

[tacit aspen]

You're an absolute star in that game, lol

[solid quiver]

mostly the gladiator and doom hunter

[tropic jewel]

Did we REALLY NEED that rubbish boss battle with the Khan? It was the classic frustrating boss battle imo

[solid quiver]

the doom hunter sucks because you dont have the ballista which goes with ssg

[tacit aspen]

I think the Dark Lord is worse, he heals himself

[tropic jewel]

Haven't gotten the dlc yet

[solid quiver]

same

[young mango]

thanks, it’s great how far I’ve come because my first playthrough was ITYTD and i barely scraped by and used sentinel armor on a lot of the boss fights

[solid quiver]

idk if i will un the dlcs

[tropic jewel]

Ice bomb blood punch then rocket lock on will break that sled

[tacit aspen]

It's good to know that even you were struggling once. ^^

[young mango]

wat? when he’s frozen his shield is still up tho

[tropic jewel]

That strategy was given to me by someone here and used it since, you use the lock on once or twice and it should break after the other two tools

[solid quiver]

im assuming the explosion from the rockets also affects the sled

[tropic jewel]

Yeah

You can take that strategy even after you get the ballista

[tacit aspen]

I freeze him and then I blood punch his sled

[solid quiver]

i like the balissta because it a straight line explosion basically

[tropic jewel]

Yeah and then whatever weapon afterwards is really your choice

[solid quiver]

which makes it easy to hit the sled

[tropic jewel]

Ice bomb works and is so useful on everyone except marauders

[solid quiver]

ok hell in earth is completed lets gi

[young mango]

the blood punch alone after that ice bomb should break the sled, sled health is 5000 on the regular variant, blood punch is 4x damage scaling so if you have frostbite unlocked that’s exactly 5000 damage

[solid quiver]

im probs gonna aim for health and armor when i get sentinel crystals

[tropic jewel]

That makes sense after I got all the upgrades for that

[tacit aspen]

Wow, that's a lot of damage.

[empty basin]

Lock-On Rockets just melt through her HP and there's the Maykr Drones walking around as free Ammo and Health pack, so when you know this information the fight becomes like 3 mins long

[solid quiver]

the khan boss was probably the easiest imo

[young mango]

think abt desperate punch tho.. you can one shot the doom hunter like that i think

[tropic jewel]

I forgot to farm them drones but I made it through

[young mango]

well if the phases don’t have separation that is, i know they got rid of the iframes

[tacit aspen]

During my first fight against the Khan I was running out of ammo because I didn't know about the headshot maykr drones thing, so I chainsawed one, and was running out again. Lol, then I died and got the Sentinel armor. I wasn't paying enough attention I guess, now it's so much easier

[solid quiver]

which rune should i get because i really want the more movement one but survive one death blows would help because its un but also demons stay staggered longer would be good

[young mango]

i wish i had footage of some of my earlier gameplay so I could show you what point I improved from

[tacit aspen]

That would be really interesting to see :)

[solid quiver]

the rest of the runes imo kinda suck

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/eRmHCL7Exkw?si=iWvVNcULZZIaOKnk

this is one of my earliest videos

[tacit aspen]

I'm watching

[solid quiver]

i think ima get more movement

[young mango]

man the usage of rockets is almost non existent

[tropic jewel]

I went for the glory kill ones and the last one was switched between the slow motion and something else but it suits my playstyle

[tropic jewel]

Micro missles?

[young mango]

no i just didn’t use rocket launcher very much in my old gameplay

[tropic jewel]

Oh

[tacit aspen]

I'm slowly getting used to rockets and the chaingun shield instead of using just SSG and Ballista...

[tropic jewel]

I started mixing up my weapons.whenever I learn different strategies and also got mods upgraded in such

[tacit aspen]

Always learning

[solid quiver]

im forever a ssg and ballists guy i love the combo too much

[young mango]

I’m kinda rusty rn tbh, not in terms of actually having bad execution but I’ve been doing my speedruns on ITYTD so I have to adjust to UN when I play it

[tropic jewel]

I like that combo and I was using it a lot, but it got stale for me, so I started switching

[tropic jewel]

You may want to try an ultra violence run before a UN run.

[tacit aspen]

Yeah, when I was done with my Nightmare run I was doing a UV run, at least I started, thought it was easy. Now after I got the DLC achievements on ITYTD I went back to the UV run, and it's painful.

[young mango]

Well I am rusty but it only takes about a day to adjust, I’ve done worse than nightmare before like damage scaling stuff

[tropic jewel]

I understand scaling, I was just trying to throw out a suggestion.

[tropic jewel]

That's why I haven't purchased that the dlc yet I'm not ready to do nightmare for the achievements

[tacit aspen]

I like to see your gameplay in the video @young mango

[tropic jewel]

What's the scaling difference between UV nightmare and UN?

[solid quiver]

idk about uv and nightmare but un and nightmare are the same thing

[young mango]

dunno but i could come up with a really close estimate by testing

[solid quiver]

just if you die in un you restart the entire level

[tacit aspen]

No, the entire run

[tropic jewel]

I'm only asking because I'm considering that nightmare run on a safe file after I platinum the game and was wondering how much different it will be from my experience of ultra violence

[tacit aspen]

You start with "rip and tear until it is done"

[solid quiver]

Restarts the level but saves at your ship

it says i thought

or every level i think

[young mango]

saves at your ship as in your save file won’t be deleted by exiting the game

[young mango]

anyways hey speaking of gameplay I’ve really been grinding TAG2 No Major Glitches and I’m almost at the sub 20 mark, my last run was 20:20

[tacit aspen]

Impressive!

I always take a few days to complete the DLCs but then I'm not going for speedruns, I like to defeat demons and then I go for a walk just to marvel at all the details, lol

[young mango]

there’s a lot of timesaves to be made, dark lord is hard to gauge because his Ai is functionally different on different difficulties, but the sections before the dark lord my sum of best playing the levels individually is 16:31

[young mango]

really makes you appreciate the world record on it, guys entire run is shorter than my sum of best pre dark Lord

even in a perfect run I’d probably still be 15ish seconds behind 2nd place

[tacit aspen]

I will never be anywhere close. But I don't aspire to be

I play because it's fun

Casual, no pressure. Battlemode was very different haha

[tropic jewel]

Well it's 2024 and the game came out in 2020 so there's not a saturation of clips on YouTube for eternal as much as say modern warfare 3 rn for example so you are definitely standing out with your skill I'd say

[tropic jewel]

I'm the same way except if I can platinum the game I will also work for that

[tacit aspen]

Yeah, I'll do more Battlemode in the future. That's what I'm lacking, so we'll see

[tropic jewel]

I like to play it. I just need them to put in new events

[tacit aspen]

They will be there eventually, I say be patient :)

[tropic jewel]

Oh ik just waiting on that day is all

I really want that black beard skin for the manky bus.

Mancubus*

[weak rapids]

Is it still possible to get the zombie slayer skin or has that long since past

[tropic jewel]

I believe they rotate out the skins.I was told by somebody that all the skins that you see for battle mode, I believe, rotate so you'll be able to get that skin eventually

[tacit aspen]

If you have an account on the Slayer Club which was set up before they changed the point system, yes. Otherwise no

[tropic jewel]

You mean before battle mode 2.0 came out?

[tacit aspen]

I'm not sure what you mean?

Sorry.

[tropic jewel]

what point system are you talking about then

[tacit aspen]

Once you got points on the Slayer Club website for reading articles, as far as I know. They changed that system

[random vault]

no, slayers club isnt supported anymore

[weak rapids]

Does anyone know how to sign into a different Bethesda account in doom

[weak rapids]

How I’m on switch

[tacit aspen]

I've never found the log out button in Eternal

[tropic jewel]

Anyone on PlayStation need help with battlemode achievements? I have me and another person I'm helping and could use a third

[tropic jewel]

https://youtu.be/g5OdQYASIPQ?si=2kIbBBP3UGqf7fR0

This doom lore video has great images and videos to accompany the lore. It connects it in a way that is fascinating to listen to. The way he structured the words just makes it all fit so nicely
https://youtu.be/g5OdQYASIPQ?si=2kIbBBP3UGqf7fR0

[tropic jewel]

Wait a second. Can you shoot through the portals in battlemode?!?!?

[azure forum]

I think the skin events rotate - not all of them

[azure oriole]

How strong is a like lv3 destroyer level in terms of dmg

[azure forum]

Battlemode is great once you get into it. It can definitely be intense at times

[turbid jetty]

it's a good vid, albeit a little innacurate since it includes Final Doom

which I believe isn't canon

[empty basin]

It deals 2400 base damage

in comparison, the Ballista's total base damage is 860 and Arbalest's is 1600

[tropic jewel]

That 3 hour lore video that is really well done the dialogue is put in a way that the gameplay is in the words like a novel, it includes from before doom one to I suppose eternal or after with all the games even the RPG ones and the dots connect so well in this video bc I have only played doom 1 2 and eternal and yet I'm understanding everything he's saying and the visuals also are on point with the words

I am definitely gonna finish it

[turbid jetty]

the RPG games also aren't canon I believe

the only canon games are Doom 1, 2, 64, Doom (2016) and Doom Eternal, Doom 3 technically is canon although it exists in its own universe and doesn't interact with the rest of the games outside of hell and references to Doomguy

[azure oriole]

The RPG games probably are not canon.

I would count Doom 3 in that, 3 is what you would call a side story. It's basically Doom Gaiden

[turbid jetty]

yeah

[tropic jewel]

I can accept the other games as canon not to mention he puts them in a way that it all does connect but to each their own bc canon could not be canon any way if we wanna get technical, just look at star Wars and the canon they changed from the old novels to the new crap ect point being I like this lore video and can agree with it

Batman lore is also another can of worms lol

[azure oriole]

I'd watch it but it's 3 hours.

I'd love to fact check sometime. Oh well.

[tacit dove]

adult star emily willis rushed to hospital after apparent overdose

[random vault]

what

[tropic jewel]

I've done 3 hour and plus video watches on the tube plus some of my fav films get close to three hours or more. This being this long definitely is warranted given the lore he's using

[azure oriole]

Well of course it is warranted. I wrote the timeline and a guide and it took 200 pages.

I'm not saying he is wrong to do so. I just cannot pay attention to videos for that long, personally.

[tropic jewel]

I think I have to take a break from the campaign at least, I'm referring to the extra lives mode, getting through the first level and going to get every secret again to get those upgrades which will help smooth the run. I just can't do it rn after going to do the work I did after this weekend on the campaign before I even did the battlemode. I had fun and used cheats but it did take time and for me it's too close to wanna do it rn without it being a chore just to get a platinum trophy in my headspace rn, gonna go play other games or modes

[tropic jewel]

Oh okay I got you, what timeline did you write?

[azure oriole]

The guide I wrote is in the pinned messages for this channel.

First 100 pages is a timeline, second 100 pages is an in depth list of everything to do with Hell, Urdak, the Argenta, and the UAC - every demon, Maykr, Sentinel, UAC staff, all locations in Hell, Urdak, Argent D'Nur, and the UAC bases.

[tropic jewel]

Okay I'll take a look, I found your thread for it

[azure oriole]

Nice, hope you enjoy it.

[worn iris]

whats the ost of final sin before the boss fight?

[tropic jewel]

Where can I see the event calendar for battlemode if it exists, I wanna know when the next one is

[tropic jewel]

Is there a stage like the "altar of glory" or a stage that has trophy kills and blood on it? Like predator has the trophy kills but is there a stage like that in eternal to acquire?

[azure oriole]

So to like hook swing

Hold left or right and detach and fly

[fallen heart]

you can break it with weapon swaps or melee aswell

[turbid zodiac]

Anyone want to play?

[inner moth]

Can you still get doomicron skin from prime games

[fallen heart]

should be purchasable

[tropic jewel]

Is it just me or does that tower in nekravol pt 1 look similar to mount doom of Mordor, some of the nekravol structures remind me of that place in LOTR

[inner moth]

Cus I don't see it

And I don't know if it's just for me

[fallen heart]

check the store/ addons on the marketplace

[tropic jewel]

You're talking the unicorn suit one right?

[inner moth]

K

[fallen heart]

for sure

[inner moth]

Yea

[tropic jewel]

I've only noticed one player that has it in my experience on PlayStation and it's def the same guy I run into so idk if it is accessible

[inner moth]

Ok

Yea I think they removed it

[tropic jewel]

The first time I went in that level I felt the similarities

[inner moth]

Now it's just a paid dlc

[fallen heart]

i've missed the twitch prime timeline way back when, but bought it later on the xbox marketplace

[tropic jewel]

Anyone have the IDKFA podium?
I purchased the dlc pack that had it but I was told cosmetic items rotate afterwards by someone

[azure oriole]

Does the armor u get scale based on what demon is burning

For flamethrower of cpurse

[inner moth]

I don't think so

[tropic jewel]

I don't know for sure but I thought it was in terms of how long they're on fire regardless of demon type, like I think the heavier the demon the more armor drops and also when they just sit there and burn especially a group of zombies or big demons they pour out Armour like a fountain

[inner moth]

Or what he said

[tropic jewel]

I've actually done that though, I've made demons into fountains of armor, the groups of fodder demons are good to light up or say fodders and a mancubus or some heavy or super demon works also

It seems to me that Bethesda made the armor really easy to farm with the flame belch which is not a complaint or a slight against them

[dull wind]

Can in doom eternal the monsters no longer do a fatality on you??
I find it was a very cool feature that doom 2016 had that the monsters could glory kill you too

and why we have extra lives? Am I playing mario?^^

When I die I load a checkpoint. extra lives feels like Cheat ON

[slow sigil]

Ok then don't pick them up

[strange gale]

don't you use an ammo backpack mod? this seems a little hypocritical

[slow sigil]

Too much animation work for not much i'm guessing

[dull wind]

I have to pick them up for the gun points

[slow sigil]

...no? Huh

[dull wind]

if you get all items in the map you get at end of map bonus

[slow sigil]

They could just let you instantly press "reload checkpoint" though

[slow sigil]

Note how extra lives are never accounted for anything

[dull wind]

that cant be the reason I mean you can just press ESC to skip it

[slow sigil]

I mean that's just arguablt just bad game design

Small movement mistake? INSTANT DEAD
Who finds that fun? Noone

[dull wind]

but theyre often in a secret trigger, and that counts 🙂

[slow sigil]

It does not
And if they do, generally you can trigger those without picking up the EL

[dull wind]

not at all, it was very cool in fact
but the glory kills are worse in eternal anyway imo

[slow sigil]

3 seconds of a sliver of coolness if you fail
Yeah, too much work

[dull wind]

in eternal its like most of the time the knife
2016 had so cool glory kills

They couldve even extended it, if you play yourself that revenant drone, that you could do a fatality with that revenant yourself 😄

[strange gale]

it'd be great to see how many hours of my de playtime consist of looking at animations instead of playing the game, cause holy shit glory kills waste your time

[dull wind]

? what you mean

[slow sigil]

The knife can be cool

[strange gale]

they're still slow

[slow sigil]

Yeah casually just
checks notes
Add in ≈ 35 new animations for a singular arena
Sounds completely realistic

[dull wind]

I find it really cool what Unreal did: If you hold crouch you cant fall down. I wish more games would have that

[slow sigil]

But there is no crouch in eternal

Also if you can't fall down... why feature those black pits at all?

[dull wind]

in games which have crouch though it would be cool

[slow sigil]

Not really... cause what's the point of those falls then

[dull wind]

when you dont press crouch you can fall of course also in unreal

[slow sigil]

Ok but why not press crouch?

[dull wind]

yeah and? In doom 2016 they didnt hesitate to do it

[slow sigil]

Yeah and it seems their management found out that it's a collosal waste of time then

[spring panther]

i died by platforming parts the most on 2016

[dull wind]

it was totally worth it. at many points I really prefer 2016

especially the atmosphere was better

eternal looks like an arcade game, not like a scary game

[spring panther]

doom 2016 gauss cannon precision bolt go pew

[slow sigil]

If you prefer 2016 with points like "i liked to see myself die" then yeah idc

[slow sigil]

What's supposed to be scary about it?

[dull wind]

thats one of the things
but the atmopshere was better too, even blood color was better

[spring panther]

firing it with very little charge makes it do less damage because id software idk

[strange gale]

it doesn't matter how much i glory kill. i could avoid the mechanic entirely and still feel like turning the game off when i finally go for a single gk

[dull wind]

also I dont like how you have to kill the monsters how the game wants you to do it
either you spend 1 shotgun ammo with that 1 grenade into mouth of caco to make it that cringe reaction
or waste tons of ammo on them (which a caco normally should mean anyway)

[slow sigil]

Then don't play that way...
You sound like a chatbot fed on year1 complainers that don't like it when their game is a game

[dull wind]

you have to play it that way if you dont want end up no ammo all the time because the game is so chainsaw heavy

[slow sigil]

Well yeah obv you're expected to reload in a game with ammo

And you don't have to play that way as you still have more then enough ammo for other things

[dull wind]

i mean its ok if opponents have their weaknesses, but wtf is the difference

Either 1 shotgun grenade wasting 1 ammo into caco
and think about it how much it lasts when you shoot it with sth else
same of course for arachs and so on

[slow sigil]

Pb ssg, pb bal, or dblade for groups of caco's is all really not that ammo wastefull

[slow sigil]

Arachs have no weapon weakness so they don't really apply

Weakpoint count as headshots and but are not really "vital" to being hit either

[dull wind]

you have to destroy the gun on his head with a shotgun grenade. it damages it quite strong, so it has weakness too 😄

[slow sigil]

Can you please show me an example where you don't do that and are incapable or otherwise have a much harder time killing it?

[visual nacelle]

i suck at doom eternal

[dull wind]

it takes far more shots if you do it different

[magic garden]

me to

[slow sigil]

It does not

[dull wind]

I ended level 3 so far. its a good game, but some things were just better in 2016

[slow sigil]

It gives an hardfalter (damage also falters), counts as a headshot (it also has a head hitbox), and it weakens a ranged option (it still has the option and it's easy to dodge)

[strange gale]

there's a popular speedrun mod for this game that skips and speeds up a lot of the other fluff, so no it's not just a me problem

i love trading in my enjoyment of the game to stare at animations i've already seen a billion times before

[slow sigil]

Different* mostly
Your complain about "you HAVE to use this gun on x enemy" doesn't really exist untill the dlcs and there they are minor. If anything it shows your incability to be self-thinking honestly

[slow sigil]

Chainsawing fodder

[dull wind]

it doesnt exist? Arach turrets sg grenade, caco sg grenade, shield soldiers need plasma primary, i see it everywhere that the game wants you to tell you how to kill them

[slow sigil]

Yeah and they are just suggestions, not mandates

Spoilers: but you can destroy those demons rather easily and faster if you don't do those things

[dull wind]

but these suggestions make them die dramatically faster and ammo is at least for now rather low

[slow sigil]

Ammo early game sucks litely but in lvl3 you have enough weapons to care less about it

[dull wind]

its especially low ammo if you do the mistake and choose micro missiles early game

[slow sigil]

You get a weapon upgrade quite early in exultia

[dull wind]

surely they are, but the gun is empty all the time

precision bolt is easier to keep ammo

[compact plank]

is there a channel where i can queue for battlemode and do shenanigans?

[dull wind]

you dont see the difference to 2016?
I mean doom 2016 looks way more serious

I mean at latest the caco feeding and their strange reaction to this should explain what I mean

It goes more the pokemon way rather than hell, and doom 2016 did not 🙂

[compact plank]

both games have their respective art styles because they were trying to accomplish similar but different goals, 2016's goal was to reboot the series with a more serious tone while eternal takes it back to its roots with a more familiar look

[slow sigil]

I see a difference, i was just asking what's supposed to be scary

[compact plank]

at least thats my opinion

also i love the glory kill on the zombie its so goofy

just bop

[slow sigil]

Doom eternal doesn't pretend it's a super serious story or something. It fully embraces the fact that it's a game

[compact plank]

ye, and thats what i love about it, its so silly

[azure oriole]

Doom Eternal is visually a much more striking game. 2016 sort of suffers from Quake Syndrome IMO.

[dull wind]

yeah but the reaction by them is so pokemon 😄

[azure oriole]

"B-but Eternal looks so silly" do you know what Doom is?

[slow sigil]

everyone knows "pokemon" is supposed to be automatically bad!!!
You not knowing that is like, totally pokemon

[dull wind]

yes 2016 and classic doom 🙂

[slow sigil]

[azure oriole]

Oh yeah dude Classic Doom looked soooo serious and dark.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/930146039745376259/1204449751874150440/Meet_spider_1.png?ex=65d4c63e&is=65c2513e&hm=69258cbb4df8d465f006f9c1f173a69eb556aae948e49d762dfffcb683b154b0&

You can tell by the Tonka Truck-looking-ass Spiderdemon and that tomato in the back.

[slow sigil]

He turned his monitor off whilst playing doom so it was dark for him

[dull wind]

of course it looks more serious

[slow sigil]

Also the completely serious reactions doomguy does in the bottom, completely edgy and grim

[azure oriole]

The newer games are telling a story and are trying to do it relatively seriously (while still keeping things light), but visually Doom has always looked better with vivid and fantastical environments.

[slow sigil]

My favourite doomgame is silent hill 2

[azure oriole]

Eternal has medieval/scifi Argenta wastelands, infernal Hell cities, an invaded and overrun Earth, the Antarctic, motherfucking Robot Heaven?? It is a visual treat and makes for iconic levels.

[dull wind]

I dont mean it has to look like Amnesia....

I said it should be more serious atmosphere, that doesnt mean it has to be pitch dark

[azure oriole]

Meanwhile 2016 has a lot of red UAC bases and red Hell levels. Its best level was VEGA Central Processing for the white and bright color scheme.

I also far prefer Eternal's demon designs.

[dull wind]

why you combine a serious looking game with it has to be lights off 😄

never said that

[slow sigil]

How do you define "serious" then

[azure oriole]

Well, Doom 3 exists and it is a very dark game. And that fucking rocks too.

[slow sigil]

I wouldn't know any description which would match OG doom atleast

[dull wind]

that for example a caco doesnt do this cringe reaction when you feed it a shotgun grenade
almost looks like it thinks its food

[slow sigil]

Well.... it likely does
That's pretty much why it works

[dull wind]

as if a hell demon would do that xD

[slow sigil]

Probably it would, yeH

[dull wind]

oh it was back then when you was young and wasnt used to modern graphics 🙂

[slow sigil]

Everyone knows the detached flying head of a 1980s DND monster is supposed to be dead serious and not a slight gag

[tropic jewel]

The og cacos were more terrifying in design a little more these ones are definitely more dnd looking and given the medevil fantasy elements of eternal it fits

[slow sigil]

Eternal's look basically like the OG one
And the og one is literally an astral dreadnought head

[tropic jewel]

Oh right

[dull wind]

the model is good, thats true. I also like the caco 2016 model already.
also the fireballs are very well made

[tropic jewel]

I miss the older look more though

I know the og is a dnd monster head and I like dnd but the doom version hits my box and this new one is great and fits this games art style, I still like the og a tad better but I suppose that's par for the course

[azure oriole]

Cacodemons technically ate not really demons going by the conventional description.

[tropic jewel]

Eternal PE looks awesome especially in certain skins

[azure oriole]

Cacodemons are Hell animals. They are wildlife. The Cacodemon thinks the sticky bomb is food.

[tropic jewel]

That makes so much sense now

Exactly

[dull wind]

impossible to show a pic here? hmm

[azure oriole]

Yeah. Cacodemons are not sapient entities like Imps are, or whatever. They're simple-minded, instinctual predators.

[slow sigil]

Hell animals = demons

[azure oriole]

Same goes for Pinkies

[dull wind]

why you cant post a url here, even not an image

[azure oriole]

That person was likely using the term "demon" to imply a Hell creature with some sort of self-awareness, since the default assumption is that demons are invading because they are intentionally evil with a sense of purpose. Under that definition Cacodemons don't fit.

Cacodemons don't have a stake in the consumption of Earth or whatever, just like a horse doesn't give a shit about the war its rider is in.

Archviles are 100% intelligent. We have evidence of humanlike intelligence in multiple demons.

Tyrants, for example, are slave-drivers. Archviles are psionic demons that are near the top of the Hell hierarchy, directly serving the Archdemons.

Barons are also implied to have humanlike intelligence. As well as Hell Knights. The term "knight" is literal - they are part of an Order that serves Hell's monarchs loyally.

[slow sigil]

Assuming the archdemons are real

[azure oriole]

Barons even wear suits of armor depending on if they serve Immora or not. Their ability to wield maces suggests intelligence beyond an animal's.

Same with Pain Elementals, for example - Eternal says they're smart enough to feel and quantify pain + know and relish in the fact they can inflict that pain on others.

[slow sigil]

that doesn't exactly mean they are persé of greater intelligence though

[azure oriole]

Well, it's certainly above that of an animal's. It suggests sapience at the least.

[slow sigil]

unless we count fe dolphins as above animal intelligence

[azure oriole]

I'll accept that. Most animals are not dolphins.

Most animals can feel pain, but they don't understand that they can also inflict it - they don't know what emotions or feelings are, they just feel them without questioning.

Sapience and self-awareness are things animals don't really have. Demons displaying the potential for those implies, on some level, free will and a semi-intelligent consciousness.

It's just their society is so alien it doesn't really show.

[slow sigil]

or rather their society is barely shown*

[glossy warren]

I mean demons are basically aliens

the ones that are purely from hell anyway

[azure oriole]

How so?

Like, define know here. Does a cat know it is inflicting pain and misery onto a bug it's playing with? Or is it just playing because that is its instinct, to wear out prey so they can't fight back?

[slow sigil]

they know they can just claw a bit at others to make them stop

like if you overstimulate your cat by petting they might bite
that's not always playing, it's it's way to ask you to stop basically

[azure oriole]

Yeah, but to a cat that's just "I defend myself; I fight." It's not "I have inflicted pain onto another creature and I understand the moral ramifications of doing this."

Yeah, because they are not intelligent enough to. They've never needed to be.

Compassion ain't useful in the wild.

Or at least not compassion towards prey.

[slow sigil]

yeah was about to comment that compassion has been shown in rats at the least and dogs too i think

[azure oriole]

Yeah, poor wording on my part. My point is that this compassion is also instinctual. It's not a concerted, deliberate choice made by weighing morality like humans do.

Dogs are the same. Dogs understand human language because they can be conditioned to understand it by expecting a response. My dogs know "outside" means they're going outside. They know "no" means to stop whatever they're doing. My dogs love each other, at least to the extent dogs can. But one of them barks and growls if the other gets near her food bowl, and she doesn't have the presence of mind to understand a complex concept like "he's just hanging out near me, he doesn't want my food - I am being mean by growling at him and should stop."

[slow sigil]

by that description some humans don't even have above animal inteligence!

[azure oriole]

Animals don't understand the concept of "I can be mean to others by inflicting pain onto them." It's just instinct to them.

[glossy warren]

dolphins will go out of their way to bully porpoises

[azure oriole]

Well that's where we get into the demon shit. Like Pain Elementals. The description given to them suggests they are aware that they can inflict pain and misery onto others, they are aware this is a "mean" thing to do - it's just they don't give a shit. They enjoy this, and Hell culture encourages it.

[dull wind]

and how it is with demons? They probably know that they harm others i guess

[slow sigil]

and get high and masturbate

[dull wind]

we should study why demons do that 😂

[glossy warren]

mhm

[azure oriole]

Intelligent demons are more than aware that they are hurting others. They enjoy it. Their culture actually depends on it.

[slow sigil]

that is not a joke btw, they literally do that

[glossy warren]

yea I know

they smack pufferfish to make them inflate then do the funny stuff with them

and they get off to dead fish

[azure oriole]

Demon culture literally depends on doing evil shit. They started out by invading others, the prospect of infernal colonialism is ingrained in their culture and it has been molded around the concept that in order for demon society to thrive they must conquer, because conquering gives them victims, victims give them energy, and energy gives them a drive to conquer more.

To them it is second nature. They don't operate on human morality, but it is a sense of morality - demons do have some kind of sense of right and wrong, alien to humans but making perfect sense to them.

They hate the Slayer, they're terrified of him and see him as some kind of fucked up demigod terrorist laying waste to their realm and they literally tell and broadcast scary stories about him. They have complex emotions as to how they feel regarding the Maykrs, they mock Samuel Hayden in their own scripture as well.

They also display complex feelings towards those who help them. Olivia was considered a wretch who was weak for ever helping them, but they also built a statue in her honor in Nekravol.

[slow sigil]

"they see him as a demigod terrorist"
my new favourite mono qoute

[azure oriole]

And the demons outright obey and show subservience to Malcolm Betruger in Doom 3 because of how fucking psychotic he is.

[glossy warren]

thats my favourite mono quote too now

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-horner-smile-gif-27453489

[glossy warren]

the one in the room with 2 dhs where you parkour to the top?

[azure oriole]

Yeah.

[slow sigil]

end of nekrovol 1 yeah

[glossy warren]

I always thougbht that statue looked famaliar

never acctyually looked at it tho lol

[azure oriole]

Yeah that's her. They also named a castle after Betruger in the Blood Swamps

But he kinda sorta became a Dark Lord or whatever the fuck the Maledict actually was, so that makes more sense.

[autumn void]

yal played castle crashers?

?

[tropic jewel]

Cacos are basically attack dogs but less intelligent than a dog, swallowing a bomb bc they don't know better and think it's food basically says that they're just along for the "ride" (invasion) as a simple minded pawn that isn't integral to the success of the invasion

So tag 1 and 2 definitely put a definitive end for the story for doom with the dark Lord being slain and those demons who got wiped when he died. I am super eager to see where it goes next after learning all the lore I've learned to this point

[azure oriole]

I imagine another soft reboot, probably.

[slow sigil]

i'm guessing they'd BS something to let demons escape hell

[austere bronze]

It would be pretty cool if the seraphim and the father would want to take revenge at the doom slayer by sending Maykrs infused with demon DNA or something to earth

[tropic jewel]

Well they'll def have to do something that new involves energy source and teleportation for hell since argent is no longer available and also a new big bad for hell for the villain

What about a game that takes story beats from the first game and makes a new timeline and can branch off and be a different story but with doom guy being doom guy and with the awesome mechanics of eternal whilst adding and or tweaking the current gameplay

Because unless they BS tag2 ending I don't see a sequel to eternal happening

[slow sigil]

yeah no let's not add diverted timelines to the already overly convoluted story of eternal

[tropic jewel]

The idea I proposed is saying eternal is one timeline and now this is a new one and we go on with sequels for this game

[slow sigil]

yeah, diverted timelines

[past crest]

Just my opinion, but the Khan makyr fight was easy, like, it took me less than 10 minutes

[tropic jewel]

I see what you're saying, who would be a new villain with the dark Lord dead, the slayer was affected and had to be put on ice, and the demons also outside of that one realm were vanquished, that is a tough place Bethesda put themselves in to continue the story

[past crest]

Vega though, was vega not left In the makyr place or whatever when you have to align the teleport rings,

Twist villan?

[tropic jewel]

Yeah that's definitely a loose end that they could use the twist villain revenge plot for

[past crest]

But then again, how would Vega pull out demons, that's kinda why the Doom Slayer exists, to kill demons

[tropic jewel]

Yeah I'm not sure at all about that

[azure oriole]

VEGA isn't a villain.

I don't think the Father would do much. The next Doom will probably be a different story entirely. Time will tell if it's just a new installment or a hard reboot or what.

[past crest]

I guess so

The lore is kinda full already, it physically can't get more complicated

[tropic jewel]

2016 and eternal with TAG are a complete story so I'm guessing a new story which won't hurt the lore I don't think

[azure oriole]

You would be surprised how far one can go.

They can definitely expand.

[tropic jewel]

At least it's not convoluted like assassins creed is

[past crest]

But all the gods, and demons, meaning also the drive for the Doom Slayer, are all dead

So unless a new god Is born

Which I'd doubt

[slow sigil]

I already told you: a BS reason for why demons can leave hell again
It can be as easy as "well, synthasized demons have no issue going through the boundaries!!!"

[strange gale]

there's also that plot thread at the end of urdak, wasn't the "mysterious voice" already retconned to be some higher being?

[tropic jewel]

Maybe something along the lines of "needing balance" in which Vega would create a new God for hell and slayer does his thing but we get an ending to still balance the universe

[slow sigil]

it was

[azure oriole]

Except Davoth didn't actually die! Doomguy just killed his physical form, turns out he has a wider consciousness you must stop. Or maybe,
Even though Davoth is dead, the Archdemons of Hell must be stopped before they break free from Hell! A power struggle within Hell is erupting and the Dark Realm must be put down once and for all. Hmm, or perhaps...
The Mysterious Voice is in fact an enemy codenamed Quake! It has usurped the dimensions of Hell and Urdak and threatens to invade another Earth, and you must stop it. Or, hmm...

[slow sigil]

but i count "megagod!!!" as a retcon too

[azure oriole]

You see what I'm saying? They can always make up more plot.

[past crest]

Im not really complaining, more doom to play is good

[azure oriole]

If you believe Hugo, the Mysterious Voice was always a higher being and they just mistakenly called it Dark Lord thanks to a bug. (I'm not sure if I believe that.)

[strange gale]

could also insert lich logic in there and say he has a phylactery that lets him come back to life in 5-10 business days

[azure oriole]

But yes, the Mysterious Voice is an entity Hugo claims to have created Davoth. He wants it to be picked up on in another game.

It's a nonsense plot thread. If it made Davoth why does it care about the Maykrs? It honestly made more sense when it was the Dark Lord.

At least before TAG2's twist.

Mysterious Voice is lame.

[slow sigil]

imagine if tag2 was delayed untill they could properly finish it

[past crest]

Samuel Hayden maybe tho

[azure oriole]

Samur is actually our best candidate for another villain, and a clear loose plot thread.

[past crest]

He has the stuff to rebuild himself

[azure oriole]

I stand by my opinion that TAG2 is pretty good for the time and resources they had. I do, of course, wish they hadn't been fucked over by COVID though.

[slow sigil]

he will just mutate further and further

[past crest]

He pretty much is the Doom guy's base

[slow sigil]

i wouldn't say it was pretty good because they should've just delayed it
"to uhhh kill davoth you first have to kill his 2nd in command!!! yeah uhhh go do that first before tackling on davoth and continuing the lore!"

[tropic jewel]

See I just follow that Vega is the father who also created davoth and jekkard and doom guy and so with tag 2 the slayer being affected and needing to be in stasis bc he killed davoth and it killed his drive bc the dark Lord was no more and there isn't a current threat it makes sense as to why he's in stasis, that's how I can rationalize it anyway

[slow sigil]

he was transferred to his makyr body in tag1

[azure oriole]

As of TAG2, Davoth created the Father - not the other way around.

[azure oriole]

I imagine Bethesda wouldn't let them do anything like that.

[slow sigil]

[tropic jewel]

Oh wait yeah I meant that my bad it is like that which makes slayer being affected sense to me

[worn terrace]

but in the next game, it was the betrayer who actually created the father, who then mated with the icon of sin who gave birth to the next khan and doomguys former roomate

so tag2 gets retcon'd

[slow sigil]

i could see them making this if they are under the same circumstances as tag2

[worn terrace]

but nobody asks, what about the wraiths,

[tropic jewel]

Did you say that his room mate happened to be master chief? And now they go killing together through hell and that halo crap? 🤣 I'm just being funny but remember who owns Bethesda now

[past crest]

What's a wraith

[worn terrace]

taht depends on which game

[past crest]

Any

[worn terrace]

"Demons" that spew argent energery, or aliens that gave tech to sentinels.

[slow sigil]

they're both kinda

[tropic jewel]

I fear the next doom game might not be available to PlayStation and just for windows and Xbox 😭

[slow sigil]

they're beings that reside in the world spear, and the sentinels sometimes gain a few. Hell aquired a few of those from the sentinels and are in the well making some weird argent energy

[past crest]

Imma personally make sure that doesn't happen

[worn terrace]

people at ID have always been adamant about wanting to put Doom on every screen. And with teh current rumors on xbox, it likely will be on PS

[azure oriole]

Hugo intends to follow up and explain Wraiths. IIRC he has them tied into his whole Lovecraftian inspiration for Eternal's lore.

[slow sigil]

tbf ID can demand what they want, but if microsoft is hard on it they can't do anything

[tropic jewel]

You're a saint for that info thank you

[azure oriole]

I like the theory that the Maykrs made them. I doubt the story will go in that direction though.

[worn terrace]

the lore is kinda a hot mess though. we can all agree on that.

[tropic jewel]

Yes

[past crest]

Yes

[glossy warren]

Yes

[azure oriole]

I think it is fine. The problem is moreso in how it is told.

[tropic jewel]

I would be happy with them bringing it back to Mars with a continuation or more like a new story but tbh I just what the gameplay to make my mouth water like eternal that's really what I want

[past crest]

What if the next game is the Doom Slayer's dream of fighting demons

[slow sigil]

i really hope they don't constrain themselves to mars and a tiny bit of hell. Too little variance in level design

[worn terrace]

im thinking if Doom Zero is still being made, we get the story of Doomguy and the sentinels

that can open up some new envirmoemnts

[glossy warren]

like 2016?

[worn terrace]

and the wraiths, and new medieval fantasy weapons.

[azure oriole]

Agree. We are way past this now.

[glossy warren]

are you talking about the environment or the actual level design, because personally the level design was fine - the aesthetic just got repetitive easily

[azure oriole]

Eternal showed us how cool Doom can be in a variety of settings.

[azure oriole]

The aesthetic.

[tropic jewel]

We could do planets and dimensions also and could use our actual solar system plus new places

[worn terrace]

sentinenl worlds, different regoins of hell, space stations made by sentinels

but tilesets do create a lot of Gigs, which is why we only see a handful in each doom game. Doom 2016 really only had 3

[past crest]

What if the next game is the Doom Slayer's dream of fighting demons, he was sealed in a coffin or whatever, I'd assume he sleeps too

[glossy warren]

holt my beloved ....

[azure oriole]

2016 has two settings - Mars techbase and Hell. Eternal has ruined Earth cities, UAC techbase, Sentinel ruins, infernal Hell cities, the Antarctic wastelands, a base in the middle of the ocean, Robot Heaven, a vast swamp in Hell, Earth reclaimed by vegetation, and Hell mixed with Robot Heaven.

[tropic jewel]

I'm sorry but you're reminding me of the theory that han solo dreamt Indiana Jones lmao

[past crest]

What?!

[tropic jewel]

Just google it you'll see

[past crest]

O don't think I wanna

[worn terrace]

prob getting a prequel, it was hinted at many times. Not sure where they can go as a third story unless its told by another doom hero like crash or phobos

[past crest]

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