doom-eternal

[compact burrow]

i mean like who tf mains an axe and shield when your gonna fight a guy who has almost every ranged weapon in the game

[golden parcel]

I lost my ultra nightmare run to a marauder

[unborn berry]

davoth

[golden parcel]

When I was getting the crucible

[compact burrow]

wtf is that supposed to help you with, defending yourself? like the Doomslayer could just shoot the shit out of the marauder, if that shield weren't in the way

[golden parcel]

Ha

[compact burrow]

also, that shield aint gonna protect him from the BFG.

[golden parcel]

Did when I tried it

[unborn berry]

well it is apparently

[compact burrow]

if it can shoot a hole into the surface of mars, then it can obviously penetrate the shit out of a white-ass demon armed with a shield

[golden parcel]

Does anyone else's Bethesda account keep disconnecting?

[unborn berry]

honestly making the marauder immune to crucible and bfg was the right choice, that's the only way he can serve his role as the "duelist" monster

[strange gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504714848194527236/1189561489204453456/g.mp4

[unborn berry]

doesn't work for me 🤷‍♂️

[golden parcel]

Same

[compact burrow]

tbh, I kind of find it funny that this is the ONLY demon, out of ALL the rest to be armed with melee weaponry.

I usually just get behind the mf and start blasting

[unborn berry]

dread knight and baron of hell

[compact burrow]

yeah, those 2 also

[unborn berry]

also the gladiator but that's a 1 off

also the doom hunter has a double chainsaw but i rarely notice

[compact burrow]

but weirdly, I find it interesting that despite the fact they ARE demons, they're just modified with cybernetic/futurustic tech

the doom hunter's lower body is replaced with hovering equipment.

[unborn berry]

i loooove that artistic choice, just looks so metal

i also like it from a lore perspective, like the demons by themselves weren't strong enough to beat the doom slayer so they were like "damn we gotta step our game up" and then they got some robo arms, love it

[compact burrow]

not just that, the Mancubus has both arms replaced with arm cannons AND has some tubing armoring it.

[night nest]

Bro remove dread knight from battle mode he’s so annoying 😭😭😭

[unborn berry]

the doom hunter is essentially 80% machine, poor lad has barely any meat on him left

[compact burrow]

I kind of find it interesting that the DOOMSLAYER somehow beats a darker version of himself, when that mf he fought has LARGER AND HEAVIER armour, and HAS AN ADVANCED arsenal.

don't forget the helmet.

[night nest]

Like people run around as him and wait til berserk is ready then kill you and act like they’re good 😭😭😭

[golden parcel]

Plot armour

[unborn berry]

maybe the armor was a debuff

[compact burrow]

weird thing is, some enemies somewhat capture the "hope is lost, the demons fucking armoured themselves and now we're fucked" style

[gusty bramble]

Yall I just beat horde mode on nightmare

[golden parcel]

Sweet well done man

Now try ultra nightmare

[compact burrow]

the Icon of Sin is more armored than any of the enemies, AND is larger than all of em, yet it looses to a guy who slaughter the shit out of satan's crib all over a rabbit

[unborn berry]

AND they captured almost all the humans, AND now they're plugging them into some weird hell matrix to suck out their souls, AND they're producing energy out of those souls through eternal suffering, AND that energy is actually serving the gods that humanity was worshipping for thousands of years

[compact burrow]

i'm about to try that mode right

[gusty bramble]

Mmm not yet

[golden parcel]

Nice

[unborn berry]

major L for hell ngl, embarassing!

[strange gale]

yea that's how you're supposed to play dread knight, if the dread's teammate isn't doing their job then you can just run up and stop him from ever getting berserk

[compact burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-loser-gif-14857997308354491603

[golden parcel]

I got a question what is the best way to counter an archvile player in the battle mode 2.0

[compact burrow]

L+ Ratio+ Purged+ no souls+ no dark lord+ stupid goat lord is dead

[unborn berry]

Davoth: Have you nothing to say to your creator?
Doomguy: don't care, L + ssg + ballista + meathook + bfg + chainsaw'd + meathook + nades + lockon

yo we had the same idea

[golden parcel]

I just went against one with drip and he clapped me

[compact burrow]

Davoth: Put on the fake J's, slayer. Show me your might like the rat you are, and die like one-

Doomguy, who isn't letting that shit slide AT ALL:

1st of all, you have absolutely 0 ancient beings!

[unborn berry]

Someone with one of those voice AIs make Davoth say "your Jordans are fake, slayer..." slayer loads ssg

[compact burrow]

2nd! Your army is bad, just like your fucking reputation!

And finally, you don't have the balls to fucking beat the shit out of my P L O T A R M O R

[unborn berry]

*cut to doomguy punching plot armor into sawdust

[compact burrow]

Davoth, now having a heart attack: AAGH-

[unborn berry]

i like how in doom 2016 you finish the final boss by shooting the BFG straight into her face, but in eternal you finish the final boss by just punching the shit out of him

[compact burrow]

Doom 2016: Aim for the face!

Doom ETERNAL: fuck shooting! fists-in-your-face NOW!

[crude arch]

Either Urdak or Immora, from pure looks.

[unborn berry]

the blood punch was such a good addition to eternal. melee went from a small fodder-only attack, to a strategic attack, refuel, crowd control, or panic button

[crude arch]

Can even be used to destroy weak points.

[unborn berry]

there's such a ton of uses for the blood punch:

-if you're stuck between a crowd of enemies, punch the fodder to get out
-if you're low on health but no demon is glorykillable, use ice greande, flame belch and blood punch for an instant health and armor refuel
-use on doom hunter with ssg to instantly destroy the sled
-instakill pinkies

[crude arch]

It was mostly just a get-out-of-jail free card for me, or as just @unborn berry mentioned, used on Pinkies and Doom Hunters.

[slow sigil]

and yet people whine because "i can't mindlessly punch without spending resources!!!"

[crude arch]

Two Blood Punches, triple rocket, Balista, dead.

[unborn berry]

incorporating ice nade and flame belch with blood punch for me was a game changer on nightmare, went from being starved for pickups on some arenas to swimming in health and armor

[crude arch]

Nah I just used the shield.

[unborn berry]

if you spend your resources right, you will never run out of blood punches bc health and armor refuels it. essentially you have fun by being good at the game lol

[crude arch]

Also

The crystal thingies, can refuel ur blood punch when maxed out health and/or armor.

[slow sigil]

well yeah but people who whine that the game requiring more strategical thought (without it being reduntant) is bad are quite far away from good

[unborn berry]

yeah, for me the strategy in the game is fun if i practice it enough to where it's almost second nature. i don't want to have to pause and think in the middle of combat

[crude arch]

Would’ve been nice if the non blood punch at least did a little bit of damage, even if it was a much as dashing into an enemy.

[unborn berry]

the regular punch does nudge fodders a little bit out of the way but it doesn't matter since it defaults to blood punch anyway

[slow sigil]

nice for what? as a trap for people that can't adapt at all to difference in gameplay from other fps?

[strange gale]

then why not just dash instead?

[slow sigil]

"basically no damage" was the right move to completely eradicate any thought of punching normally in eternal

[unborn berry]

glory kills are enough melee for me tbh

[glossy warren]

theres no reason to add melee other than gk and chainsaw if you want to count that

[crude arch]

Don’t get me wrong, now that I actually have to think way more in how I approach a fight, all the mechanics that I can toy around with, I like it, I’m thinking, that’s what makes it fun. But I think it’s that sense of familiarity which would’ve been nice. Also, it’s a FPS, not a strategy, so I think it’s important to not have too much. I’m not complaining, the game is fine as is and I think there’s more than enough tools to not have that melee attack anymore. Just, would’ve been nice to have y’know?

[glossy warren]

you're already kitted out at any point to not let enemies get close enough to you unless you're overwhelmed, in which case its not like melee's going to help you there

[unborn berry]

on the plus side, you can also play the original DOOM and DOOM II on the computer in the fortress 😂

[crude arch]

Also as far as I know, every DOOM game has had the melee punch, so seems weird to remove it.

[slow sigil]

i don't really know as no punch definitely makes the game better and it wouldn't really add anything, as the actual melee present is 10 times more interesting

[slow sigil]

with that argument, ID literally should not have made new stuff for doom after the OGs

"DOOM didn't have a super shotgun!!!"
"DOOM didn't have these levels!!!"
etc etc

[unborn berry]

the modern doom games have been moving into more technically complex gameplay ever since 2016, we no longer have rooms full of imps that you can take out with just the super shotty

[crude arch]

Yeah, true. I think the keyword is, depth. Adds a layer of depth to the gameplay and adds more thought to your gameplay.

[glossy warren]

It feels more grounded to have doomguy punch sure but I dont see how it adds more thought

[unborn berry]

not that the old school style of gameplay is bad, but if you want more of the good ole games you still have them

[slow sigil]

removing it adds more dept, you have to think more about what you do and cna't "mindlessly" spam melee and win

[crude arch]

I’m referring to Blood Punch.

[slow sigil]

ah, mb
yeah BP definitely makes it more interesting

[glossy warren]

bp is good in tight situations

but as an actual melee it doesnt lend itself very well

[solid quiver]

is nightmare mode as hard as some people say

[slow sigil]

it... it does?
or is your definition of melee just mindlessly spamming E

[crude arch]

(id like to add a disclaimer that im just getting into doom and eternal is my first impression of this franchise)
Yeah I see that when looking at older DOOM games, like Pinkies now have a weak point in their tail and now charge at you.

[unborn berry]

Last week I was dying 10+ times in Super Gore Nest on nightmare, now I'm clearing Taras Nabad on nightmare like it's nothing. Just takes some getting used to, and of course you gotta play the game to git gud

[glossy warren]

its not used as often as a melee therefore I just dont consider it melee

[austere bronze]

When you first try it its going to be difficult but you will quickly get the hang of it

[glossy warren]

its more of a special

[slow sigil]

ok so for it to be melee you need to completely ignore thegunplay the game is based around
i hope doom never ads in any big melee then

[unborn berry]

I think all weapons are "specials" in Eternal, there is no one weapon you could pick and stick with forever. It's the design philosophy of the game that you have to think carefully about what weapons you use

also the reason why you have very little ammo for each weapon, you can't use each one forever

[slow sigil]

there is no one weapon you could pick and stick with forever
i mean, you can, but yeah

[unborn berry]

the most powerful single combo I can think of is SSG+ballista which is still 2 weapons and that still doesn't cover all cases

[solid quiver]

i love thay combo

[glossy warren]

I didnt say ignore the guns, I said its not used often enough for it to be a melee

[slow sigil]

you can literally play the game wihout any guns, only using the CSG is definitely possible and less tedious then that

[crude arch]

It’s more so just understanding the mechanics and combat of the game, I personally played Nightmare on my first run of this game. So some aspects of my experience will be different. One thing I can say, is that if you’ve already played the game, your playstyle might need to change. But in terms of encounters, they should be easier since you’ll have an idea where demons spawn and which ones after certain ones die.

[unborn berry]

not fun at all, I've tried killing a cybermanc with the basic shotty and it's not good

[slow sigil]

you never said it had to be fun

[austere bronze]

Maybe the base campaign but once you get into master levels and modded levels you definitevly cant do that

[solid quiver]

depends on what mod your using also

[unborn berry]

why would you play a game without having fun...

[slow sigil]

you definitely can

[slow sigil]

most people really don't get playing video games

[crude arch]

That just sounds tedious.

[austere bronze]

Try that in unfair Unreclaimed Earth on nightmare and see how it goes

[slow sigil]

tedium isn't impossibility

[unborn berry]

you can also play the whole game with just the flame belch bc it deals 1 damage lol

[slow sigil]

if they did, we would have less corperate shit becoming more successful, and no grinding either

[crude arch]

Dash also deals damage lol

[unborn berry]

DE sanic% run

[solid quiver]

after i beat nightmare mode should i try and beat ultra nightmare

[crude arch]

☝️

(depends tho)

[austere bronze]

Yes but i recommend doing master levels or something first

[slow sigil]

i mean if you somehow made it your job ig. otherwise, there really is no reason to play a game without having fun

[solid quiver]

i have done some master levels on my ps4 but might as well do them again on my ps5

[slow sigil]

a game's sole purpose it entertainment. It does literally NOTHING else

[slow sigil]

(yes go away weird cryptobros)

[unborn berry]

sometimes the definition of having fun is flexible, like I can sit there screaming at my screen for hours bc I keep dying at the same arena over and over but I'm having "fun" in the sense that I wanna keep doing it until I succeed

[crude arch]

Yes, thank you. Was wanting to find the words.

[unborn berry]

so if you prefer to use the most boring strategy known to man then go for it ig

[glossy warren]

yea like celeste

[austere bronze]

Yeah do that, ive been thinking about trying super gore nest ML on UN

[crude arch]

100% true.

[glossy warren]

pain in the ass to complete fully but the satisfaction you get at the end is overwhelming

compare that to ultrakill where you're having a blast whether you live or die because thats what the gameplay is meant to be

[solid quiver]

super gore nest mastery level scares me

[glossy warren]

its not even the worse

[unborn berry]

i like when games don't pull punches like that, they tell you that you suck to your face and challenge you to git gud or die

[solid quiver]

whats the worst one?

[crude arch]

It’s only the last fight that was rly hard.

[austere bronze]

On the base game its Taras Nabad

[solid quiver]

isnt thst the one with 2 mauraders and prowlers in a close cornered area

[glossy warren]

yep

[crude arch]

I think a little bit of hand holding is needed at the beginning, since maybe a new player is new and is learning the mechanics of the game.

[austere bronze]

You just need to get the hang of quick swapping and managing different situations and you will be fine

[solid quiver]

i think i beat that one on my ps4

[crude arch]

After that, nah, ur on ur own.

[unborn berry]

my favorite example of this is wolfenstein calling you a baby for picking the easy difficulty bc the art for it is BJ in a bib and pacifier lmfao

[solid quiver]

i would have to check

[slow sigil]

guidance then, not handholding
handholding is completely taking away the player's input

[unborn berry]

yeah, but also, I think the devs thought (correctly imo) that the kind of gamer who will pick up doom eternal is already going to have some experience with FPS games

also it's important not to underestimate the player; modern gaming tutorials where you get an exposition dump and an insignificant tutorial section are way more annoying than Doom Eternal's typical "here is a gun. use it"

[crude arch]

Ah well, there you go.

[austere bronze]

DOOM Eternal was my first ever FPS game, my second first shooter game🤣

[slow sigil]

i disagree, eternal's tutorial popus are definitely worse

[unborn berry]

DE does have some explicit tutorials but also some completely invisible ones, like pitting you against a dread knight immediately after getting the chaingun (sgn), or giving you a huge crowd of fodders and a challenge to set them all on fire (cultist base)

[crude arch]

I think the difficulty descriptions do a great job at satisfying different players. One of the few games that I’ve played that do difficulty sliders right.

[glossy warren]

2016 had like no tutorials if I remember correctly

[slow sigil]

the dread kngiht's codex entry straight up mentions the chaingun weakness before you even have the chaingun
the second one is so "invisible" it's super obvious lol
"hey uhhh for this challenge you have to use flame belch against the giant group you already see!!"

[unborn berry]

ok but also consider: i don't read

[crude arch]

I like that, also I turned off tutorials bc it personally ruined part of the experience when facing bosses or a new enemy. Or even when figuring something new out.

[slow sigil]

"the game doesn't do it if you ignore the game doing it!!"
yeah i don't think it works like that

[crude arch]

You must not like the Codex then.

[unborn berry]

it does, the codex is unintrusive

you just don't have to read it at all if you don't want to

[crude arch]

I personally liked it.

[unborn berry]

i mostly used the codex to gawk at the cool art

[crude arch]

But, would’ve liked if there was a cutscene.

Show, don’t tell.

[glossy warren]

the art is so good

hayden presenting a speech at a UAC meeting or something was probably my favorite

[crude arch]

Same, I turned off the tutorials. Since at times it ruined the experience. Esp when it came to bosses.

[glossy warren]

it was helpful at some parts for people new to the game

[crude arch]

I was new, completely.

[glossy warren]

like weak points, most people wouldnt catch on until they (accidentally) landed shots on manc cannons or rev cannons

but I do agree it took away the experience of learning for most of it

[slow sigil]

which, for a skill based game that wants to start the skill curve fast, isn't that bad of a decision

[glossy warren]

you can easily get through the game without this but still

[slow sigil]

are the popups bad? yes
but what great other alternative is there really that won't leave behind most players?

[glossy warren]

this

[crude arch]

I don’t think the game tells you that you can shoot his hands off until AFTER you kill him.

[glossy warren]

I havent played base game in a very long time so I dont know if it comes up or not

[austere bronze]

It was definitely helpful for me in the beginning

[glossy warren]

there are definitely alternatives

ultrakill comes up with non-pausing popups that say basic mechanics, while the more complex things are left for people to discover

[crude arch]

I think the popups are fine. But when the game stops completely, that’s when it gets ruined.

[glossy warren]

it tells you that you can parry flashing attacks, and leaves it at that for you to find out which ones you can do

[slow sigil]

yeah lets mix reading and fast paced combat, surely that's a better idea

[glossy warren]

some things are weird like changing the flash of the leviathan to be blue because it's that hard to parry but

[austere bronze]

I honestly dont understand why many of the ULTRAKILL players seem to hate on doom eternal (maybe doom players does that too but i havent seen any of it)

[crude arch]

Just have the tutorials be part of the actual gameplay and don’t tell me what a boss does and what to do against it, kinda weird for a game that doesn’t hold your hand.

Feels more satisfying learning it myself.

[slow sigil]

ok and how will you make the tutorials part of the actual gameplay?

[unborn berry]

I don't think I'd have time in the middle of battle to try out wtf to do against e.g Khan maykr. Like how am I supposed to know I gotta blood punch her

[crude arch]

Best example is when you get the Chaingun.

[unborn berry]

Also tbh there probably aren't even 5 minutes of tutorials total across the whole game. Also you can turn them off, so

[slow sigil]

you can't make everything like that

[south grove]

honestly i kind of wish we had more master levels

i just saw a thing of unreleased master levels that id had actually made but it was a mod

[austere bronze]

Play the modded ones, many of then are really well made

[slow sigil]

yeah but they where all pretty poor as they are all from before SGN

[meager swallow]

hmm still cool that they exist

[night nest]

Bro I just went for barbarian gold and he is so lame smh 😭😭😭😭

[slow sigil]

yeah obv, all gold skins are unless they don't advertise themselves as gold

[unborn berry]

barbarian gold is me irl tho

[night nest]

lol

[night nest]

That makes no sense please elaborate

[slow sigil]

all gold skins are (refering to being lame) unless they don't advertise themselves as gold (lux skin isn't lame)

[austere bronze]

Fr

[unborn berry]

it's not about looking good it's about sending a message

[night nest]

Gold maykr slayer and gold slayer are sick (in my opinion) gold barbarian isn’t even golds it’s literally like cheap gold paint

[night nest]

I didn’t even know it existed till I was bored looking through the TAG 2 😭😭😭

[unborn berry]

gold slayer had the GALL to not make the biceps gold smh literally unplayable

[night nest]

💀💀💀

Doomicorn is the best cosmetic change my mind

[unborn berry]

not even controversial

[night nest]

https://tenor.com/view/discoholic-tea-sip-sipping-sipping-tea-gif-15227781

[slow sigil]

cheap gold paint? wow literally like gold slayer and gold makyr

[night nest]

No like the gold maykr and gold slayer actually look gold but gold barbarian looks bronze

[slow sigil]

makyr is too dull

[night nest]

Still actually looks gold tho

If someone said to you what colour is that when referring to either you can tell it’s gold but with gold barbarian you can’t

Idk why I’m arguing about this actually

Marauder dog is the goodest boy :3

[slow sigil]

idk either cause the gold skins all look so extremely bland

[chrome token]

Hello

[night nest]

https://tenor.com/view/nuntidou-nunti-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-gif-23472119

That is 100% not dull

[slow sigil]

lol what???

[chrome token]

It is

[unborn berry]

i still can't believe they didn't make the biceps gold

[slow sigil]

there is basically no detail, it's all just doused into a singular, bleh colour

sure if you're still like 15-16 or below you think it's super cool because "omg pure gold!!!!" but most people that care about artistics aren't like that

[night nest]

Same tbh

[unborn berry]

i dont think doom eternal is really popular among the high art crowd

[chrome token]

Why not the biceps too???

[night nest]

Why are you so mad about this

[slow sigil]

thinking pure doused in gold with nothing else isn't great is not "high art" it's just not "super low"

[night nest]

Me too

[chrome token]

Lol

[meager swallow]

i hate the gold bfg

[night nest]

@slow sigil do you actually have the skin?

[night nest]

Agreed

[slow sigil]

yeah? i like skins with more going on

[night nest]

If you don’t like the skin why go through all the trouble to get it????

A bit counterintuitive don’t you think 🤔

[meager swallow]

completionist

[slow sigil]

because i didn't do it for the skin?

[night nest]

Fair fair

[night nest]

True as well

[slow sigil]

also gold makyr used to look pretty ok before they removed the glow on the blade, now it just looks bad

atleast the gold skins aren't as atrocious as the skullface skin

pretty cool skin, so lets use it ingame!!
oh... the gloves are... completely brown... well that's lame

[night nest]

Yeah that one’s pretty bad

The inferno slayer is just a knock off version of the deluxe edition skin

[meager swallow]

i dont like the barbarian skins

had potential but they just look pretty bad

[night nest]

Ok 👍

[slow sigil]

i mean they basically got their potentional
being conan skins

[meager swallow]

i think my favorite skins are the ones you get for buying other games like the doom marines and the quake mfs

[chrome token]

Do any of yall have classic doom marine?

[night nest]

Yeah

[chrome token]

I do

[slow sigil]

i think everyone more then halfway throughthe game has that skin

[chrome token]

Oh

[night nest]

Classic doom marine: ❌

Codplay slayer: ✅

[meager swallow]

wait do i idk

[chrome token]

I love the classic doom marine

[meager swallow]

i think im using the indigo doom marine, nice skin, looks like steel

[chrome token]

I have that one too

[night nest]

Yeah they are both really common

[chrome token]

I know

[night nest]

Ok

[meager swallow]

common doesn't mean bad, i like how basic it is

it looks like the slayer

[night nest]

So do most of them

Loving the PFP @chrome token

[chrome token]

I love da classic slayers!!111!1

What's PFP?

Uhhhhhhhhm

[meager swallow]

profile picture

[chrome token]

So is he asking if I like his?

[night nest]

No I like your profile pic

[chrome token]

Oh thanks it's from a vr game

[night nest]

I know bone works/ bone lab

[chrome token]

BoneWorks/BoneLab

Good game

[sturdy pendant]

When ford says ‘whaddup son’ i get murderous urges

[slow sigil]

you should probably have that checke up

[tame topaz]

i wake up with murderous urges every other morning

[slow sigil]

you should definitely have that checked up

[tame topaz]

no

[sturdy pendant]

The amount of times i’ve killed Mr. Ford Bonework is immeasurable

[boreal drift]

just play eternal to release it 😌

[tame topaz]

damn. I would use microbeam more often if the barrel recoiled like with heatblast/unmodded.

for whatever reason it just doesn't like they forgot to animate it lol

[sturdy pendant]

I want a vr doom game (that’s good, so not vfr) so that i can violently kill demons with my own real hands

[tame topaz]

playing world spear ML. i forgot how good this game was. damn

[night nest]

Bro I think if they made unmaykr skins they have potential to be awesome

Like imagine an imoran weapon skin for the unmaykr

[unborn berry]

i appreciate the attempt to give guns some personality through skins but a lot of them just suck, like maykr skins are nothing but a recolor of the guns (in contrast to something like hellforged which adds new patterns) which doesn't look "maykr" at all and also they don't even have them for all guns

[unborn berry]

this is an awesome idea, i hope someone mods this

[night nest]

Yeah that’s true the only good ones are the lux and hellforged and most of the other ones are from mods

I queued in a battle mode match and someone had a venom modded skin for the dread knight 💀

I knew I lost so I just left

[sturdy pendant]

I hate most of the skins. Also they don't take themselves seriously enough, no ones gonna wear fucking plaid lumberjack heavy cannon skin or snake-pattern purple chaingun

[night nest]

Honestly tho I love the doomicorn skin absolute perfection

[sturdy pendant]

Yeah doomicorn is good

[night nest]

There is no better way to strike fear into a demon than running around as a unicorn

[sturdy pendant]

But i don't want a bajillion goofy skins. I'd rather have a few goofy skins and a bunch of badass ones than all of them being dumb

[night nest]

Yeah I agree the fat doom guy is just unnecessary

Like at least with the doomicorn it’s kinda funny and memey

[sturdy pendant]

Shit like the doom marine skins, the unmakyr skins, the skullface, etc, are cool and unique and we need more of that shit

[young mango]

it’s not a mod that’s a vanilla skin you can earn, also all mods in eternal are client side so it’d be impossible to mod a skin in that other players can see

[night nest]

WAIT WHAT

I THOUGHT ALL DREAD KNIGHT SKINS WERE MODS

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-gif-14006288

Ima google how to get it

@young mango THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TELLING ME YOU’TE AN ACTUAL LEGEND

[unborn berry]

I didn't know other people can see modded skins

oh i didn't read further

[night nest]

Yeah lol

I double checked it as well and it’s true

But it was a season 4 think so IDK if u can still get it

I can’t check either since it’s like 11:00 AM in the UK

[young mango]

battlemode rewards as well as the majority of regular events are recycled, so even if you can’t get it right now you can just wait

[night nest]

YYYEEEESSSSS

YOU’RE AND ACTUAL LEGEND BRO

[crude arch]

Hmm…

[unborn berry]

you can also mod it but other people won't be able to see it

[young mango]

if you mod anything even a skin unlocker other people aren’t going to see it anyways because mods disable multiplayer

[low onyx]

Game fun👍

[vernal roost]

Hey just a quick question, so I've had a had a problem with a secret encounter on arc complex, for some reason it just doesn't spawn, however it does show up on the map. I'm trying to 100 percent everything before the Urdak mission so no spoilers after that if possible. I've tried using cheats to make it as fast as I can to the nest but it still doesn't spawn. Is there anything that I can do to fix it?

[harsh pewter]

Hey guys, I wanted to know if anyone has prints of hours played in Doom Eternal over 300 just so I can troll my friend

[young mango]

yea sure

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1202048174517407845/image.png?ex=65cc0999&is=65b99499&hm=558f18a41fd89917aec3835eb839b8d291d7baa2d47ec1bc6d63b9a86acd1c2f&

[knotty skiff]

how to meathook in doom eternal i always forget

[young mango]

use mod button on the super shotgun, for computer this will be right click on your mouse and for console it should be the big left bumper

[knotty skiff]

im fighting khan makyr and it just makes a click sound

[midnight sparrow]

It has a short cooldown and will make that sound if you use it before the cooldowns done

[knotty skiff]

where can you see the cooldown?

[midnight sparrow]

Your crosshair should change and the hooks under the barrel of the super shotgun should click outwards when the cooldowns over

[knotty skiff]

yeah but since i've gotten the mod those red things never seemed to appear

[harsh pewter]

tysm

[crude arch]

Wow.

[boreal drift]

just lost my UN run to urdak

ask me anything

[glad olive]

You ok?

[balmy leaf]

im a sucker for snow levels in FPS, so cultist base for me

[empty basin]

It's easily The Blood Swamps for me, second being UAC Atlantica Facility

[sturdy pendant]

Nekrovol part 1, blood swamps, hell on earth, and cultist base

I love the metal-album esque hell in nekrovol, blood swamps is just badass, hell on earth has tons of titans roaming around and giant ass tentacles, and cultist base is snowy

[young mango]

on an upgraded meathook the cooldown is around 3 seconds

[boreal drift]

no

I love Urdak

[solid quiver]

im almost done with nightmare mode

im on urdak rn

[boreal drift]

Hurry up! the longer the powerful of earth is on sin, the more icon he becomes.

[balmy leaf]

Urdak is a rly good choice

Even Samuel likes it

[eager edge]

I just got the game yesterday

[tropic jewel]

So I have been playing this game for a couple weeks or so now and it's slowly taken over the majority of my playtime. I have since the other day decided to platinum this for PS5. My only question is that is this cross gen or am I tied to PS5 users to play with in battle mode?

[solid quiver]

why is the khan maykr boss so easy

[tropic jewel]

Which mission was that again?

[solid quiver]

the urdak one

dont know the actual name of the mission

im on the final sin aka the final mission on nightmare rn

[tropic jewel]

Hold on I'm trying to remember it I've not beaten the game yet I'm on ultra violence and haven't gone past the point of return yet. I wanna get the collectibles and then move to the last levels but I'm now trying to grind the achievements for battlemode

[solid quiver]

nice i got a save file on my ps4 i think with everything completed and all i need to do is also get the battle mode acheivements to get plat

i also gotta get the extra life mode 10 achievement thing

[boreal drift]

Bottomless micromissiles:

[solid quiver]

i used the lock on mod

i guess micro missles would also work lol

[boreal drift]

Is it your first playthrough?

[tropic jewel]

Oh noice I just got the initial save on my PS5 and started this game this month. Finding matches is not the best Ill admit due to limited player base:/

[boreal drift]

All bosses have a resistance to lock on. They don’t have any resistance to micro missiles

plus they’re way more sustainable

[solid quiver]

did not know that i used two lock ons then a super shotgun blast

[boreal drift]

I thought lock on was OP when i was a newb but then i learned the true power of remote detonation and never looked back

Imo lockon’s power scales inversely proportional to skill level

And remote det scales proportionally

[solid quiver]

rip

i got a ps5 recently so i lost all my save file data so i had to start a new nightmare save file which sucked

[tropic jewel]

Lock on also makes good moments with the rune for that slow mo but that also doubles for the sticky bombs in that regard
That is a bummer man, I thankfully never lost data with transitions

[solid quiver]

yeah it sucked but i atleast kept all my outfits and stuff

[tropic jewel]

That's a plus for sure

[solid quiver]

yup

i started this nightmare run on like sunday and i am hoping to do ultra nightmare soon after thus

[tropic jewel]

I'm sporting classic marine and I don't know when that'll change but I've got a few other fits
I am wanting to grind battle mode achievements and then clean the campaign and get my platinum and idk how long that'll take (referring to battlemode trophies)

[solid quiver]

battlemode trophies are hard and i still gotta do all them lol

[tropic jewel]

Really weapons expert is my bane imo

[solid quiver]

same

i suck as the slayer or i just would get people who were too good at the game for me to kill thme

[tropic jewel]

I'm decent as a demon but slayer being scaled down in speed versus the campaign fluidity is way too jarring for me

[solid quiver]

yeah

[young mango]

yea skins are kept on the bethesda servers

[worn iris]

what happens when you get all the toys in the base campaign

[solid quiver]

you get a milestone quest done and you can view them all in the doom slayers little man cave

[tropic jewel]

Plus the achievement for whatever platform you're on

[solid quiver]

that also

[tropic jewel]

This game is rewarding to say the least

[solid quiver]

yeah

i just know ultra nightmare mode is gonna suck

nightmare sucks already enough

[tropic jewel]

Yeah I've never done a run on a doom game like that and idk if I will try for this one because I'm mainly seeking the platinum and possibly the platinum for the dlcs but I think nightmare comes into play on one of those....

[solid quiver]

im not really going for plat i just wanna do ultra nightmare for the gold outfit you get and just to say i beat ultra nightmare mode because of how hard it is

[tropic jewel]

I love this game and I finally sat down and plat Arkham City and asylum last year and this game I'm definitely going after it but I will probably go do the nightmare runs afterwards

Where do outfits for the Slayer and the demons mainly come from like I'm asking how do I unlock outfits is it milestones amongst other things or what

I do have the two outfits for the Slayer out of the fortress already as well as a a few others. And I am also aware of the events f

[solid quiver]

you can some from playing horde mode and unlocking sets

[tropic jewel]

Oh I have yet to play horde mode but I had a feeling that unlockable stuff was mainly through that mode as well

What's the requirement to get the gold super shotgun?

[solid quiver]

i actually dont know i dont have it lol

im rocking santa slayer rn tho

But biker outfit has got to be my favorite

[tropic jewel]

I haven't seen the biker I don't think but gold super shotgun and all other gold skins besides combat shotgun can be obtained through beating levels on the second dlc "TAG2" on nightmare
One I just recently saw was a mancubus in a ghostly Blackbeard outfit and that was really awesome

I witnessed it via my teammate lol

[solid quiver]

i think i have that manucbus skin but you should search up the biker outfit becauses its my favorite one

yeah its the seasalt spook outfit for the mancibus

i think that may have been a event but i dont remember

[tropic jewel]

I'm too nostalgic for classic doom guy myself
That is pretty freaking cool and yeah I know a lot of skins I've been seeing are event or horde mode tied right

[solid quiver]

i love the classic skin also

i have all doom games besides 2016 actually

i do need to buy the dlcs and beat those also

[tropic jewel]

I have that premium ps plus subscription so I as of RN have access to everyone except maybe doom 3 but I never got around to 2016 and I don't think I can go to it after eternal and I feel robbed in my own personal way lol

I'm definitely going to get them and beat em

[solid quiver]

i may only buy and play 2016 if i one day beat doom eternal entirely

i bought all of them on sale for like 10 dollars besides doom eternal

Doom 3 kinda sucks imo

[tropic jewel]

The hurdle for me on that is eternal is the peak of this revival and idk about going to 2016
I never got into doom 3 but I definitely need to go back and complete doom 2 and 64

[solid quiver]

The old dooms are fun and enjoyable despite being how old they are

[tropic jewel]

That is very true
I've even thought about checking out the 2 quakes that were realeased I never got to play those and I was always interested

[solid quiver]

nice

[worn iris]

is there like a 1-10 hour loop of the guitar solo in the exultia/taras nabad ambience ost?

[solid quiver]

i gotta go now cptn it was nice talking to you and hope you have fun getting plst

[tropic jewel]

If only we could get a great remaster or remake of GoldenEye and it be cross platform........ Between that and doom is be in childhood days lol

[worn iris]

cause I wanna sleep to it

[solid quiver]

also if you dont already know the ssg and ballista is an insane combo

[solid quiver]

somewhere probably lol

[tropic jewel]

SSG?

[solid quiver]

super shotgun

[tropic jewel]

Ah gotcha

[solid quiver]

just switching back and forth can kill almost everything really quickly

really effective against mauraders if you dont mess up

[tropic jewel]

I usually use the ballista for hell knights and some other demons. The marauder encounters I've had were fun but I can't remember what I used other than ssg

[solid quiver]

i rarely use any other gun

[tropic jewel]

I need to get back on the campaign and nail down the combat more than what I have now. Just wanting the multiplayer achievements first lol
I also use the rocket launcher plasma and heavy cannon alot but that SSG sees more or equal mileage from me as well

[solid quiver]

i use the ssg and the ballista like all the time but if thats what works for you thats awesome

[tropic jewel]

Well to be honest I need to get my ballista upgraded lol but I do use it. The rocket launcher and micro missiles make me so happy because I love blowing demons away and causing that kind of havoc in this game. Also I do find the chain gun is really useful in certain situations

[solid quiver]

i use the chain gun when i just wanna quickly get the doomhunter off the sled

[tropic jewel]

Isn't there another demon or two that the chain gun is good for? I'm thinking about the weak spots but can't remember the exact details

[solid quiver]

i dont remember but i think the mobile turret mod is good for the icon of sin fight at the end

[tropic jewel]

Okay I'll remember that tip

[solid quiver]

ok i gotta go now but if you need help or any tips ask me and i could probably give you some

[empty basin]

@tropic jewel nah it's not, the Icon of Sin has 60% damage resistance to Mobile Turret

[solid quiver]

really?

[empty basin]

yes it's programmed in the game files

[solid quiver]

didnt know that lol

[empty basin]

The other fully automatic weapon that's actually good against the Icon of Sin is the Heavy Cannon's Micro Missiles, assuming you have it mastered

[solid quiver]

oops

[empty basin]

Micro Missiles (Mastered) at base deals roughly the same damage as Mobile Turret, but without all the gimping damage resistances demons have on it

[solid quiver]

i do have it mastered and im actually at the icon of sin soon so thanks

[empty basin]

👍

[empty basin]

The Khan Maykr also shares this damage resistance

the devs really just hate Mobile Turret for some reason

[tropic jewel]

I have used the combo SSG with the rocket launcher alot especially when you you have whiplash, mancubus or arachnotron, and revenants all in one arena at the same time for the lock on mod for some fun times

Micro missiles mastery is just chefs kiss for what it can be used for

[sonic grotto]

How do I efficiently use the chainsaw? I only ever get gas canisters in arena battles and then I use it once and then I can't use it again. Maybe I misread the tutorial popup for it but it seems very pointless.

[empty basin]

When empty, the chainsaw recharges 1 pip after 20 seconds, so I'm not sure how you're able to only use it once

You use it to gain Ammo when you're low on it, or as a panic button to get some breathing room while you micro-manage your decision-making

[tropic jewel]

What's that rule with super and heavy demon and chainsaw also? Ive yet to pull a glory like that

[empty basin]

Fodder demons take 1 pip to Chainsaw, Heavy demons take 3, Super Heavy demons cannot be chainsawed

[tropic jewel]

Thank you
And combine it with the flame belch to get armor and ammo from fodder demons

[empty basin]

Unless you know the Chainsaw Canister's placement on the map (or you have the 3 pip it gives you at the start of the level), you almost never use the Chainsaw on anything that's not a fodder demon

[sonic grotto]

Yeah, I just took a look at the tutorial popup, it says "One pip of chainsaw fuel automatically recharges over time.", I must've missed that, or maybe I've only been trying to chainsaw heavy demons. Thankyou!

[tropic jewel]

I understand that I just still want to see the animations for the super demons and the chainsaw for kicks and giggles you know

[empty basin]

👍

[empty basin]

Oh no it's not that I'm saying that you shouldn't, it's just that you don't get the opportunity to do so often

[tropic jewel]

But not for nothing the chainsaw is still a viable life saving tool

Am I alone in thinking that the blood stained skin for the super shotgun is the most fitting one given the significance of the DOOM SSG?

[sonic grotto]

What does a sentinel battery do

I've found quite a few of them around the cultist base and this eliminate deag ranak mission

[tropic jewel]

They open doors in the fortress of doom and two are required for each door. The doors have suit tokens,weapon mods, and crystals behind them but they're see through doors. And the 2016 skin and the classic doom marine skin are also in the fortress behind a door

The campaign also uses them for scripted things but they're definitely collectibles to be sought out

I've not beaten the game but isn't the icon of sin fight a weak point of the campaign? I've seen it referenced via YouTube and thought it was like the doom 2 fight

[azure oriole]

every boss, every except tag 1 and gladiators suck

so 3 out of 5

even the mini boss in tag 1 is better than ios

[empty basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965739133236555836/1202143387453759498/782330_20240131144725_1.png
Finally completed it twice for real, only took 41:30 this time (it's a fluke, I had another 1 hour-long attempt before this where I ragequitted and went to sleep)

[sonic grotto]

Oh my, what should I unlock? I was looking around in the fortress of doom and there were so many doors, I only have 5, so only 2 doors can be opened, do you think I should try for the praetor suit points or the upgrade modules?

[empty basin]

I'd recommend going for the Praetor Suit points first

Weapon Mod Drones are less of a priority since most of the time you only really use one weapon mod per weapon

[empty basin]

Actually no, get the Sentinel Crystals first then the Praetor Suit points

[grave furnace]

I just realised, in Quakecon mode is there occasionally a single random person shouting or was that just my imagination

[hollow basalt]

Are humans the most perfect living things made by God, in it's absolute perfection, ofc not in terms of physically but mentally and heart?

Like we are the best creation above every living things

AH sorry i was having existential crisis questions

[slow sigil]

No cause if we where perfect we wouldn't get all kinds of nasty diseases like cancer and horrific stuff like that

[young mango]

I called out some guy on YouTube for altering his gameplay and trying to pass it off as vanilla physics and he deleted my comment like almost immediately

I literally did the math for it and everything

I screenshotted it because i half expected that to happen, so at least it’s archived

[strange gale]

aint no way

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/2Na578o26D4?si=RZ3GAGHRXVgK7ZcO

bro has 1 second meathook cooldowns, hammer charges from killing enemies, and faster bring up speeds than normal and the entire comment section is praising him

[empty basin]

Oh yeah that's definitely modded

super obvious from the Meathook Lock-On time from the get-go

You don't even need this to beat just 8 tyrants though

[young mango]

it’s so funny he deleted my comment because the comments that compliment him get hearted or replied to and in another video he completely lied when asked “why’s your cooldown so fast?” he said “oh it’s just a trick with the meathook”

[strange gale]

ask him to elaborate 🌝

[empty basin]

Perhaps the rocket speed also got increased?

[young mango]

shits just gonna get deleted again

[empty basin]

I'm pretty sure both the normal and Lock-On rockets don't travel that fast

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/x8sx2t6JoJ8

imagine needing mods to do less than 1/3rd this amount

also I think he’s at a disadvantage with his increased bring up speed because he can’t use FSE

[azure oriole]

that's why i hate the haste power up

[young mango]

at least haste is infinite ammo, you can just lock on spam every

[azure oriole]

also the funny part about tyrants is that they are cheesable by strafe-dashing

[empty basin]

Oo nice clutch at 0:58 there, pretty sure you would've gone down to 5 HP if you're late by one frame

[strange gale]

he's also didn't record this on nm, the tyrant rockets in that video do itytd damage

[young mango]

LOL

[azure oriole]

i'm embrancing remote detonation lately

[young mango]

I just assumed he didn’t get hit, I didn’t even notice that

[azure oriole]

trying to play the hard way cause why not

[strange gale]

one of them hit and did 15 damage

[young mango]

well that’s another lie because he constantly said in the comments in reply to people that it was on nightmare

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1202184012089786368/IMG_6211.png?ex=65cc881b&is=65ba131b&hm=0e0f890f159e2b11276d660afe927ac31b4cbaa0e495bb327633986bab6662ac&

[empty basin]

I should try to learn double Dblade by now I guess

[young mango]

this might be the first doom eternal cheater ever

or at least the only case I’ve ever heard of, some people are suspicious that nahyram ( idk how you spell it ) plays with reduced tokens

I dont personally subscribe to that one though because I don’t have any concrete proof

[young mango]

oh lol you wanna hear something even funnier about that?

a comment on this video suggest his next video be barons instead of tyrants because their melee doesn’t take up tokens

but the guy himself was unaware that this guy is working with barely any tokens at all

[azure oriole]

@young mango can you test something for me? is the precision bolt ballista bats combo

[young mango]

oh yea I’ve tried that before wat about it

[azure oriole]

is it actually reliable for dps? i was wondering if it is somewhat comparable to pb rl

sometimes it seems to be as fast, sometimes not

[young mango]

no pb rocket is definitely faster, the ballista can’t bring up that fast, and even if it could, combo swap chain makes mods delay so the precision bolt would have to come around like half a second later than usual, as well as the fact its just as hard to pull off as rocket ballista it’s just not worth it, but it is faster than just regular pb ballista

I Can do a side by side of pb rocket and pb ballista BATS to compare to two if you want

[azure oriole]

i would appreciate that a lot!

because honestly it comes handy against enemies like pain elementals, cacodemons and doom hunters

it's a good amount of hitscan damage

[young mango]

well for pain elementals and cacos you might be better of just ballista BATS punchswapping them

3 ballista in a row is my go to combo for pain elementals

[azure oriole]

since you use ballista boost too you can double punch swap PB, then Ballista mod swap and then BP

it should kill a cacodemon with 12 ammos and 25 cells in a decent amount of time but is high effort

[young mango]

you know now that I think about it, you don’t fight a single pain elemental in TAG2 any% restricted

[azure oriole]

i was talking about mod content like delta campaign or kaiser though

i didn't get really involved in speedruns, they are too repetitive for me

[young mango]

yea I know it’s just a cool bit of information that I just thought about

[azure oriole]

i feel like the problem of TAG2 is that encounters feel unbalanced

like the first encounter with screechers, you just use Arbalest and LoB

and it is done, the fountain encounter, 5 rockets, 1 punch and some PB punch swaps

even the mancubus fountain is just precision bolts and 2 slobs

[young mango]

I completely forgor those are two separate encounters

[azure oriole]

then you get hammer and it gets really cheesy

[azure oriole]

yeah they are really dumb unless is the master level, that one is just super duper cool

[young mango]

@azure oriole https://youtu.be/gdEUHKkuhxw

[azure oriole]

mmmh

yeah i feel like it would be worth it for reliability on dodgy targets

it also seems faster than pb rl?

[young mango]

definitely not, ballista 860, rl deals 900, thats 95.56% the damage of rl, basically identical, if it were faster it definitely would've killed the tyrant first

[azure oriole]

no i mean the speed of the wind up

also i think that what we are missing here are headshots

since it is hitscan and is a cylinder it is easier to land headshot with pb ballista

it takes 4-5 cycles with it

same as rl for barons i mean

let me send youthe video in 10 mins my bats combo is still bad but i got it once lol

yeah if you headshot pb ballista is faster

[azure oriole]

yeah no it takes the sam exact time if you headshot in both cases

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3OebIGFG8k @young mango

[flat aspen]

Cool

[azure oriole]

hah i got warned for writing the combo down..

[inner moth]

whats your fav demon

[wheat vigil]

My favorite demon is the entity offset demon

[leaden quail]

huh

my fav is the caco and the icon

[inner moth]

mine is revanant

[solid quiver]

i gotta say mine is the mancubus

[tropic jewel]

Um I like revenants and mancubus a lot but pinkies make me feel alive too lol

Favorite super shotgun skin?
I'm all about the blood stained I just feel it's suitable given the significance of the SSG

[balmy leaf]

Anyone else find the weapon skins to be kind of underwhelming

[tropic jewel]

Whats a backup for arch viles when bfg is not available?

[slow sigil]

your normal good guns?

[gusty bramble]

Damn I wish it was this easy to spam on console

[tropic jewel]

I'm talking for eternal and these arch viles are priority number one whenever they show up and bfg is the best besides the crucible but I'm asking what's best if I don't have the ammo

[slow sigil]

again, your normal good guns

[gusty bramble]

Balista freeze and super shotgun usually does the trick for me

[slow sigil]

contrary to what you seem to think, archviles are not somehow immune to regular weapon attacks

[gusty bramble]

Yes they are just tanky

[tropic jewel]

Oh thanks for that information guys 👌

If only I didn't have to work I could be slaying away and getting my combat skills more refined. Can anyone relate?

[gusty bramble]

Yes sir

[gusty bramble]

Idk i actually like them i prefer the more normal skins then like galaxy animated ones in a game like doom

[tropic jewel]

I also like those animated skins

[balmy leaf]

I generally prefer a downplayed look also but idk they just feel too downplayed

I feel like i should have gotten something cooler than a teal gun for master level taras for example

[slow sigil]

you got the amazing experience of having played the ML

[gusty bramble]

Oh well yea that i agree with minus the gold one for the super gore nest the other 3 do feel kinda underwhelming especially for the content ur completing

[balmy leaf]

Yah 🙂

[slow sigil]

the gold CSG is just as underwhelming as the rest

the others atleast have kinda cool colours instead of yellow

[balmy leaf]

I generally hate 'gold guns' in fps but eternals do look quite nice

[gusty bramble]

Idk I like it lol

[unborn berry]

Making gold skins but not all gold like the Phobos skin might have been a better idea. I don't understand why they took away the green glow from the golden bfg for example

[slow sigil]

or lux

[strange gale]

lux works, it's tasteful enough

[balmy leaf]

Yeah id have liked some trim that really pops, they feel very flat

[tropic jewel]

How do I obtain phobos or lux again?

[strange gale]

the full gold skins aren't reflective enough so they're left in an awkward middleground where they're gaudy but not flashy

the gold on them looks like the kind you'd find on doubloons that were buried inside some dusty ass chest for 300 years

[unborn berry]

phobos is from extra life mode, lux is horde I think

[tropic jewel]

Thanks

[crude arch]

I think if they did the same gold texture and reflections like the weapons, it would’ve looked cooler. The Slayer skin kinda looks like it had a matte finish to it.

[tropic jewel]

I understand why the gold skins are coveted but for me I'm totally satisfied with rocking the classic skin and just keeping it on unless I see something that punts my nostalgia out the window

[slim thunder]

Can anyone tell me exactly what the Ancient gods are? a reference to an old doom, just a simply dlc, ...

[slow sigil]

uhhhh davoth and vegafather probably? it's pretty much undecided by ID i feel like or atleast never stated
doesn't help that halfway through production they had to rush everything

[slim thunder]

Okay thx

[broken mauve]

Super shotgun and ballista is the best combo ive used so far

[slow sigil]

just wait till you use PB combs

[broken mauve]

whats your favourite pb combo?

[slow sigil]

idk theyre all good

[broken mauve]

i'll try PB SSG

SSG + Ballista is the fastest way to beat mauraders for me

[tropic jewel]

PB? What is that

I'm not familiar with that one

[solid quiver]

Percision bolt i think

[crude arch]

What’s that rocket technique where people fire a rocket, melee, rocket, melee, and pretty much removes all end lag of the rocket launcher?

[balmy leaf]

Think that's just punch cancelling

Spam punch and weapon button while firing

[azure oriole]

The term "The Ancient Gods" is thematically refering to Davoth and the Father, most likely.

[turbid vigil]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/za3zo7rM11M

[crude arch]

Ah, alr

[glossy warren]

thats not exactly it

shoot, punch, hotkey binded to that weapon, shoot

[vernal roost]

How do I fix arc complex’s broken secret encounter?

[vernal roost]

Or will I just have to live with 99 percent completion💀

It’s been like 3 years since this bug first showed up and they haven’t patched it at all

[night nest]

BRO I DID NOT KNOW IF YOU BEAT TAG 2 ON NIGHTMARE YOU’D GET THE GOLD WEAPON SKINS

I LEGIT DID IT JUST FIR THE PODIUM

[empty basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpSxBpcPb0

[crude arch]

🙏

[robust warren]

yesterday I gave up on the ML Taras Nabad after several hours of frustration, and today I went through the whole thing on the first try with almost no problems

weird how that goes

[empty basin]

Lemme guess, you got stuck on the Medallion and Double Archvile Sewers room?

https://twitter.com/BethesdaSupport/status/1318624382588211200
Try this perhaps?

Bethesda Support (@BethesdaSupport) on X

For @Playstation users who own the Year One Pass or the Deluxe Edition, please follow these steps to redeem The Ancient Gods – Part One

• Launch @DOOM Eternal
• Select The Ancient Gods – Part One from the Main Menu
• PSN Store Opens – please select the option for “Add-On Free”

Twitter · Oct 20, 2020, 6:45 PM

[solid quiver]

LETS GO I DID IT

i beat nightmare mode

now i take a break until i do ultra nightmare

[empty basin]

I suppose you can try googling "doom eternal ps4 dlc not showing"

there's a bunch of threads regarding the matter

I don't play on PS4 myself so I'm not too confident

[azure oriole]

with my keybinds is everything but easy lol

[azure oriole]

you can do it!

[solid quiver]

im doing the super gore nest and i im only on the 2nd difficulty but it still seems way easier then ot should be

mastery i should add

[empty basin]

Try contacting Bethesda and/or Playstation Support then

[rare apex]

Hi

[azure oriole]

it is kind of easy

afterall you unlock dblade there and the cheese begins

destroyer blade

[solid quiver]

just beat hurt me plenty suoer gore nest now time to do ultra violence

i also already completed classic mode that was fun

[robust warren]

Doucle Archville Room not so much, but I straight up gave up on Medallion room for a bit

and I had more trouble with the double marauder/prowler ring than I should have

[solid quiver]

mauraders for me are still like the easiest thing

Nightmare for me is easy but yeah they do suck

same depending on the demon

[azure oriole]

destroyer blade or sticky bombs lol

i would suggest using the shield if you want a more friendly experience

yeah

just spam it whenever you are in a hard situation

the CD is just low you can abuse it as much as you want

and the best thing about it is taht you can throw a sticky bomb, grenade and shoot with the chaingun while the shield is on for less than a second, you wait the bombs to explod and you should be able to charge the chaingun shield throw on mastery

yeah cooldown, the recharge time

yeah

same as heat wave if i remember correctly

[empty basin]

It's easy to forget but the Barrier surrounding the Medallion itself is actually traversable, so you can go around it repeatedly instead of circling around the barrier.

Remember to also abuse the Chaingun Shield, and if you're sure that you got the space or an Ice Bomb to spare try to charge a Destroyer Blade to deal a ton of damage to a ton of demons all at once

But yeah that room especially with the Buff Totem phase definitely feels instant-death-ish, which can feel frustrating

[azure oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTBW_09qnL4 also here a chaingun mobile turret IGN combo xD

oh if you want to learn something useful, try to stack armor when you see it goes below a certain threshold

if you want to have a fun time, flame hook into an enemy while holding A or D, then swap to a weapon

just for fun purpose it will yeet you away, why? because it's DOOM

yes

oh great, that is something that is done a lot for reposition

oh what i mean is to swap weapon during the meathook. do you do that?

yeah. Fun fact, with modding you can disable that. You can change it so that if you don't have ammo you can't use meathook

Let me show you how it looks in practice

i would suggest you to watch Sylar's video on modded content after you get comfortable with UN

just because there is so much to learn and trust me, the game loop is just genious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpAhD4KFCg

of course when you use meathook don't move, unless you use air control

[empty basin]

or they can consult me for ML mods

👍

37 ML mods completed and counting

Master Level

[azure oriole]

nope

I started avoiding it because it gives a bad habit of spam jumping rather than actu ally use your movement tools

[azure oriole]

i never watched your gameplays

[empty basin]

because I never upload them lol

[azure oriole]

you should

[empty basin]

my graphics card isn't strong enough to record DE gameplay

[azure oriole]

ugh

which one?

i could play doom eternal in HD with a 750ti and. Rn i have a 6650xt and when i record on linux i have no frame drops, so it should be better on windows

[empty basin]

Radeon RX 580

[azure oriole]

yeah it should be enough

unless you are playing in 2k?

[empty basin]

nah just 1080p, I get like 60-70fps on average

[azure oriole]

on ultra nightmare?

[empty basin]

nah most settings just high

[azure oriole]

it can handle Elden Ring on Ultra at 40 fps in open world 1080p of course

[empty basin]

here's a list of all the ML mods I've cleared
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965739133236555836/1202429085335289896/image.png

[azure oriole]

yoo that's a nice list

now i'm corious to watch you play though lol

[empty basin]

Last time I tried recording, which was on Consumed Earth, the game crashed on startup lol

[azure oriole]

are you updating your d rivers?

like there is also an option for recording on AMD adrenaline and on top of that you should get Framegen?

it is just so weird to me sorry xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1hsvqvcXVI @azure oriole also here a wayto bully the marauder

[empty basin]

maybe I can try recording TWS ML real quick

[azure oriole]

sure

also make sure you are using the right encoding if you are using OBS

[empty basin]

oh lol now I got a driver timeout whan I launched OBS

[azure oriole]

lmao

download adrenaline and update them it will be all quick and autoamtic

[tropic jewel]

I can't use fast travel until I reach the portal back to the fortress right? I am referring to the end mission portal

[prime pilot]

So I just finished Tag1, And am I the only one who feels a bit underwhelmed?

It felt like it was gonna be an epic adventure, but for me it just ended abruptly after 3 missions

[solid quiver]

lets go i best ultra violence mode super gore nest mastery

now i do nightmare tomorrow

[unborn berry]

can't expect something bigger than the main campaign for the dlc to be fair

i also wish there was more game to the game but i suppose that making these big detailed levels takes a lot of work

you can play the master levels though

[balmy leaf]

Tag1/2 feel like a step down in quality from the core game

[sonic grotto]

How do I replenish ammo in the middle of a scripted fight?

[unborn berry]

⛓️ 🪚

[sonic grotto]

Chainsaw?

[unborn berry]

yes

[sonic grotto]

Righto I always forget to use thay

[unborn berry]

get used to chainsawing like 1 out of every 10 demons and then you won't even have to look at ammo

[young mango]

it was rushed tbh

[prime pilot]

I mean, it still was a lot of fun. And they added some features and mechanics that I really felt were awesome, but the story was kinda hard to follow and it just happened so fast. I cant blame Id for the music, because of the departure of Mick Gordon. The levels were forgettable and I just dont feel like my purchase was quite worth it. I will see if Tag 2 is better

[unborn berry]

the only thing that bothers me about TAG is that doomguy shoved the dragon away rudely

not cool doom slayer!

[young mango]

personally TAG2 Is my favorite out of all of it, but that’s just me probably, i think playing it normally is boring but if you’re like speeding through it, it can be fun

[prime pilot]

Playing Doom 2016 after playing Eternal feels weird

[unborn berry]

it's bc they're so similar

playing normally and then R for flame belch but then oops wrong game

[azure oriole]

the first yeethook skip you do is just glorious in tag2

[prime pilot]

I gotta say though, I think 2016's multiplayer is a lot better

[unborn berry]

duh, there's no way to fuck up a classic deathmatch

ok i guess there might be but i just know that i have no interest in fighting the same 2 demons over and over

[prime pilot]

One thing I hate is there is no crossplatform in eternal and 2016

[azure oriole]

have you played svs?

or invasion or battlemod 3.0? there are so many mp mods out there

[azure oriole]

that's because in eternal pc player would probably shit on console players no joke

[prime pilot]

ya, you're probably right. But if I want to play battle mode, I want to with my friends

which I cant

[azure oriole]

yeah that's very sad indeed

I haven't really played battlemode i'm more of a singleplayer

[prime pilot]

I think almost everyone is

When it comes to multiplayer, 2016 is my favorite. And with campaign, Eternal blows 2016 out of the water

thats a pretty un original opinion

[empty basin]

@azure oriole I managed to record with OBS but the file ended up being 17.9 GB large lol, gonna take a while to upload with this third-world country internet speed

[bronze zodiac]

where you live at

am vietnamese so my network is prob alot worse than yours

[azure oriole]

how long?

like it also depends on the preset you are using or the options. There are guide for choosing the right setup for recording hold on

[empty basin]

🇮🇩 Indonesia

[empty basin]

My OBS Preset is usually for recording short videos on Bluestacks for another game so I didn't really optimize it for this

[azure oriole]

me with my 28mbit

[empty basin]

currently it's on 12% upload lol

the video itself is 50m long

according to speedtest my download speed is 32mbps and upload speed is 11mbps, but that's on a super close server one town away

[strange gale]

it's incredible how swagless every single de montage is

this game does not lend itself to combo videos

all of them are basic ass punchswap chains with obnoxious music, the only differentiating factor between them is the editing

[young mango]

definitely a good combo but calling it try hard isn’t really true, also thats not silent mod swap that’s just BATS again

[young mango]

to be fair if you’re doing combo videos there’s a certain point where you have to do a slower combo on purpose to keep it stylish

[azure oriole]

mb

OMG i really wrote silent mod swapping when it was bats xD

[strange gale]

i can click on a random ass 144p 3rd strike combo video from 17 years ago with dogshit audio quality and still have a better time than watching any de montage

[young mango]

me when I see my billionth “what (x amount ) hours looks like in doom eternal”

[burnt wasp]

Question about getting Astro Skin for Chaingun.

Does anyone know why I still don't get Astro skin even if all chain gun mod is maxed out and the master skill is unlocked?

[azure oriole]

I can relate, I have 1300 hours on doom and yet i couldn't do much stuff movement wise because i was focussing on comboing and not even practicing

literally i wasted hundred of hours even though i was able to do UN master levels in base campaign. And the fun fact is that now i can't even beat them anymore

[sonic grotto]

The Slayer gates are so much fun

[unborn berry]

weird how there are only 6 slayer gates, i thought there would be one for every level

[sonic grotto]

I'll miss them

Just mastered the super shotgun hell yeay

Honestly

I used to be super conservative with when I used it bit then I remembered I can shainsaw fodder demons for ammo pretty much whenever I need it and now it's like the only gun I use

I use pretty much everything but the ballista and chaingun tbh

And the one between rocket launcher and combat shotgun I don't have that uet

[unborn berry]

Does the inclusion of the night sentinels into Doom's story seem a little odd to anyone? I can understand the Maykrs bc they are the angels to hell's demons, but I don't see how the sentinels are inspired by the original games or necessary to the point of the game in any way

[sonic grotto]

How do I defeat those black cacodemon pain elemental things? I just pumped one with like 6 sticky bombs and it was still alive

[unborn berry]

Ballista, arbalest, 2 shots with that, dead. Switch to SSG in between shots and meathook them for extra damage and armor

They like to dodge so you can also use precision bolt or lock on rockets

[sonic grotto]

I don't have that unlocked 😞

[unborn berry]

Regular ballista shot is good too

[sonic grotto]

The arbalest I mean

Alrighty

[unborn berry]

Actually you usually can't fire arbalest bc it's a bit slow

But if you're up against just pain elementals it's worth it

[sonic grotto]

Nevermind I did it, I'm not sure how, I just charged up the ballista and shot it a few times and it exploded

Easiest secret encounter by far I still had like 9 seconds left

[unborn berry]

A single arbalest shot will also instantly kill a cacodemon

If you master that mod you can rapid fire it if you don't miss

[sonic grotto]

Yeah I prefer sticky bombing them it's very f7nny

I just need 2 more modbots and I'll have every mod on my guns so far

Something tells me I'll be getting another gin before that though

[unborn berry]

You can also toss a grenade instead of a sticky bomb while fighting other things, or if you prefer to keep the rapid fire shotgun mod by default

[sonic grotto]

oh that's handy

[unborn berry]

I have a more difficult time aiming the grenade for some reason though

[sonic grotto]

I always forget I have a grenade and I try to use that button to switch guns

[unborn berry]

In late game, the ice bomb is a life saver

Gives you some time to think and frozen demons give health

[sonic grotto]

The first rune is garbage right

Faster glory kills means less iframes

I think?

[unborn berry]

If you have 2 demons waiting for a glory kill then doing them faster means you won't miss one, but overall yeah it's not that useful. I like it bc going fast is fun

The runes that are more helpful for newbies are air control, the one that slows time when using a mod, and the one that gives invulnerability and slow time near death

[sonic grotto]

I FOUND THE WHIPLASH TOY WOOOO

i love the whiplash demon it's my favourite :3

[sonic grotto]

Calling ME out is crazy I have the first 2 equipped and then the one that gives a speed boost after performing a glory kill

[unborn berry]

Insane

I fear you really

[sonic grotto]

I did just change it though initially I had those first 2 equipped and then the one that allows you to glory kill from further away, I also have the one that makes demons hit by the blood punch shockwave drop health but I figured you already get that from glory killing and you need to glory kill to get blood punch anyway so y'know

[sonic grotto]

I just like how fast they are I always have a fun time killing them

[unborn berry]

I like having fast glory kills, fast after glory kills, and glory kills from far away

Perhaps I like glory kills

[sonic grotto]

I also like the glory kill animation for whiplash demons where doomguy chops them up 3 times, and also the one for prowlers (I think) where he stabz them in the chest and then drags his knife up and then rips open the cut

[unborn berry]

The amount of health you get from that blood punch rune is small anyways, you'd probably get more hit points by setting them on fire first and then punching

[sonic grotto]

Maybe a little bit

[unborn berry]

Oof the whiplash has this gnarly glory kill where you snap her arm and use her exposed bone to stab her in the eye

[sonic grotto]

Tbf though I get all giddy everytime I see that blue and orange flash

[sonic grotto]

YEAH THAY ONE TOO

I was never really a fan of super gory stuff in games and I didn't think I'd even like this game but it's competing for my favourite game ever if I'm honest

[unborn berry]

Doomguy got so tired of whiplashes he reserved the most fucked up kill for them

Perhaps the only glory kill as humiliating as that is chopping the Marauder's head off with his own axe

Oh and bonking the zombie's head into their chest

[sonic grotto]

Imagine going back to hell after being eviscerated by doomguy and everybody laughing at you because you let him push your head into your chest

I'd never show my face again

Bathing in a pool of fire eternally

[unborn berry]

According to the lore it takes many eons for a demon to be created from a human corpse bathing in hell energy, and some of them go through more training and enhancement

So imagine being a tormented human, grotesquely mutated over thousands of years, forced to kill other demons for the entertainment of the dark lords, tortured brutally with cybernetic enhancements, and then you just get vaporized by the doomguy in 3 seconds

[sonic grotto]

A random fodder demon in a slayer gate thinking it's finally taken me down, watching in horror as I rise up once more like nothing even happened, just to punch them so hard they go flying back

[unborn berry]

Me except I'd BFG them bc I thought I was done and I panicked

[azure oriole]

a guy called prodeus doom made a mod with a slayer gate in Hell on Earth

still under construction though

[sonic grotto]

Regenerating barrels + explosive piñatas is just infinite ammo right?

Almost mastered the precision bolt too

No way one of these runes is a led Zeppelin reference

[azure oriole]

you already have chainsaw for that and infinite fodders

[sonic grotto]

Yeah but only if there are fodders around

I'm not sure if the marauder is supposed to be a boss or what but that was such a fun fight

[sonic grotto]

How do I know I've collected Everything in a mission? I'm trying to go back and replay the previous missions to get everything I missed and I've forgotten what I missed immediately

[sonic grotto]

I mean while I'm in the mission itself, there's no way to check?

I think maybe, once all of the little panels in the Items Found section of the map are green rather than black, and the Demonic Corruption meter is all green, I've done everything

[sonic grotto]

Yeah I figured it out

[empty basin]

@azure oriole there we go, finally done uploading
https://youtu.be/35nLU14ALCQ
Also I should mention that my game is modded, so I'm not really a true-to-form "good" player
All the mods I use are in the link on the description

[azure oriole]

let's see

[empty basin]

wow now that I'm watching it, it feels weird seeing my own gameplay lol

I sure move my crosshair around like a madman

[azure oriole]

I'm currently trying to play decently in terms of movement

my aim is somewhat good, i just struggle a lot to multi task damage and movement with ballista boost and yeethook

[azure oriole]

i just noticed you all look so calm when playing

or is it my impression?

[empty basin]

Not sure, I didn't expect to record this video deathless though

Maybe it's because I played so many ML mods already that this level is just much easier in comparison

[azure oriole]

I wish i was asctually good at the game 😢

I feel so little confident about everything

[empty basin]

If it makes you feel any better, I still don't know how to Ballista Boost and Yeethook properly

You never see me do the former in the video unless by accident

[young mango]

50 minutes is a pretty decent time for not having skipped any cutscenes

[inner moth]

i killed him pretty quick my first time

[tropic jewel]

Hey try not to feel discouraged, I've only been playing eternal since this month and I've had to refine my combat skills and get the mechanics and flow down and I still have work to do. Point being this game is rewarding and fun if you just take your time and get your head in the game it'll be a blast to play!

I'm even trying to platinum this game and it's been a fun journey so far

[glad olive]

I keep forgetting what buttons are what whenever I play

[empty basin]

Yeah there's not really much point comparing yourself to others apart from trying to learn their skills/tech

[tropic jewel]

This is true because even the ballista/ssg combo is a great strat but it for me I like to use different weapons and not be stuck to just those two weapons in which makes the game more challenging and more fun in a way or at least thats my takeaway

[azure oriole]

no i don't mean that

i mean that in 1300 hours of time i wasted a lot of learn potential and replaced it with doing nothing

on top of that i zone out a lot for some reason

[tropic jewel]

Are you saying you're not satisfied with yourself of how you've been playing this game by more or less just "messing" around and have 1300 hours of that

[slow sigil]

Luckily ssg/bal is one of the weaker combos

[azure oriole]

no i'm not happy with my progression

because i want to be an actual movement player which is hard apparently lol

[tropic jewel]

I apologize but what's being a movement player? I'm guessing a flawless or near flawless doom slayer

[slow sigil]

Someome that can move good ig

[tropic jewel]

Right

[azure oriole]

I mean using ballista and meathook with control

Since I panic a lot during my runs I just don't use it correctly in my view

[tropic jewel]

Air control rune ?or just in general

[azure oriole]

i don't use air control no

[tropic jewel]

Me neither just was clarifying

[azure oriole]

but yeah, even my ballista boosts still require some practice

i can't do 180 as good as other players like sylar or sav

[tropic jewel]

I haven't mastered that either though but I do use that SSG alot
And I need to get my ballista upgraded myself but the SSG/ballista combo is pretty powerful

[azure oriole]

upgraded myself?

[tropic jewel]

Referring to me needing to buy the ballista upgrades for the mods

[azure oriole]

yeah i used that for my TAG1 UN but it felt just too cheesy

literally every mistake you do Chaingun Rightclick and you slip away from death

[tropic jewel]

Yeah I've used the shield but not very often

I usually go for crowd control with rocket lock on or micro missiles or plasma along with grenades and blood punching
I keep forgetting to use the chain gun

[azure oriole]

I only use 5/7 weapons, plasma for ghosts and that only

every quick swapping technique doesn't involve automatic weapon except PB sadly

[still brook]

Is there anything information about a new game

[azure oriole]

Quake 6 soon tm

[tropic jewel]

Pb? And I really haven't done the whole swapping mechanic but I still get by

[azure oriole]

precision bolt

[modern mirage]

i recently tested something on a controler that punch canceling is the same time to fire another bullet (pb), as waiting for pb to shot again (upgraded) and i wanted to ask if it is the same for people who play on a controler

[empty basin]

That only applies to battlemode, in Campaign and Horde Mode it gives you full 360 degrees damage invulnerability from all axis

[tropic jewel]

What's your main go to weapons?

I still use em because it's fun for me to blow things up especially with the micro missiles mastery or the mastered sticky bombs

I just yesterday got the full auto upgraded and now get to kill pinkies for that mastery.

Besides sticky bombs what else is good for arachnotrons

[azure oriole]

It depends, dps while is Precision bolt and combo it with RL and SSG, rn i'm learning how to bring up combo PB with Ballista

[modern mirage]

pb

[azure oriole]

Sticky bombs are hard to use because they require you to headshot in order to deal a good amount of dps

[tropic jewel]

I use that rune that slows down time when I use the mod

[azure oriole]

If you are good enough you can kill a Baron of hell in like 4-5 seconds with BP sticky bombs headshots only

[tropic jewel]

Yeah Ive done that a few times actually

The ballista and super shotgun are also really effective against hell nights using the combo that is

[azure oriole]

hell knights go down in 2 seconds with BP sticky though

[tropic jewel]

Look I'm so bold I'll even use the meat hook on hell knights because I mainly use the blood punch when I need some quick armor from fodder demons that I set on fire

[azure oriole]

wanna see something cool you can do with meathook?

[tropic jewel]

Yes I do

Well the remote detonate mod damage a group or is the DPS only good for like two demons in a group

[azure oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpAhD4KFCg

if you time it correctly you go even faster

[tropic jewel]

Yes that is pretty neat and awesome but I do play on PS5 so I don't know if I can do that because isn't this a mod for PC?

[azure oriole]

no it's a mechanic

[tropic jewel]

OH!!!

[azure oriole]

simply swap weapon when you have enough speed with the meathook which is as you start getting pulled or when you strafe

[tropic jewel]

You just simultaneously blew my mind and gave me a new way to play

[azure oriole]

that's the doom effect lol

[tropic jewel]

You know I still like using the SSG meat hook with firing at fodder demons and trying to kill groups of them like the old school days without the hook

[modern mirage]

i was thinking how to yeet hook faster on a controler but max i can get is like for example from first arm of the icon of sin too the other and i been stuck with that range

[azure oriole]

the think i hate about the meathook as a PC player is the auto lock

it is but reliable, sometimes it works sometimes not

[tropic jewel]

Now you can meathook and flame a group for a lot of health and armour
Sometimes it acts up for me but it's rare

[azure oriole]

yeah i know, for saving ammos players usually do meathook into precision bolt and then headshot but it takes a bit of practice

[tropic jewel]

Yeah I definitely don't think I'll try to be practicing that seems like too much work for some fodder demons in my opinion

[azure oriole]

trust me in UN master level it is not

i actually saves some time and again, ammos are very important in ML

[modern mirage]

u dont have to practice that thing without fun u can work on it playing the game again maybe on higher dificulty

[tropic jewel]

Because the plasma rifle or the heavy Canon or combat shotgun can take care of fodder demons easily there's no reason to do swapping imo
I haven't done any ML yet nor have I done nightmare runs

[balmy leaf]

Whats the point? To get the armor from the meathook without using a ssg blast?

[azure oriole]

I already try doing it but I assure you it gets really frustrating

[azure oriole]

you save ammunitions lol

it's 36 shots vs 12 shots from your ammos (BP vs SSG)

[balmy leaf]

But do they still drop the armor

[azure oriole]

they do, 20 not 30 though, and at the same time you also have a faster meathook

so it can count as a dash

[modern mirage]

for me not but quick swiching is frustrating

[azure oriole]

i mean it is only required for Master levels not main campaign

if you don't quick swap it takes too long to kill a demon

[modern mirage]

i dont mean that i dont use quick swap it just frustrating when u make a mistake and whole combo is ruined and for controler player is also slower to quick swap the npc player

[azure oriole]

hah i see, i fall in that a lot, it requires a lot of muscle memory

[tropic jewel]

And I'm still just using two guns without quick swapping over here 😂 granted I haven't tackled the ML yet

[modern mirage]

its mucle memory too but on a console u have to wait more time to do thing for example punch canceling for pb is the same time as just waiting to recharge and rocket pb i slower, and thats frustrating

[balmy leaf]

Honestly can't imagine playing with weapon wheel, sounds 100x less fun

This game is made for keyboard

[modern mirage]

games are made to give fun to player no matter the platform

[tropic jewel]

There's ways to kill demons efficiently without need to quick swap for console. I haven't even bothered with that quick swapping at all and I'm having a blast

[modern mirage]

yes but somethiems if something looks cooler it gives more fun

[azure oriole]

yes but you have the broadest gamut of possibilities on PC

FPS arenas were meant for PC after all and DE isn't alike

I really wish they will introduce rocket jump in the next doom

[modern mirage]

yes its true

[balmy leaf]

Me too, or at the very least i wish ballista jump was useful in some cases

Beyond like, janking the game with yeethook and stuff

Like it'd be cool to have to boost up to get some secrets

[modern mirage]

also balista boosting is better on pc as on concole is super slow to fire another one even with punch canceling

[tropic jewel]

Is the remote detonate good for crowd control or no? I mean say mancubus revenant and fodder or hell knights ECT in front of me in a group will the remote detonate damage them or just a few demons?

[tropic jewel]

I got used to the timing of the ballista and I'm on PS5 so I made it work in tandem with ssg

[azure oriole]

do i have to be honest?

[modern mirage]

i play on ps4 and i dont see difrence betwen waiting for recharge and punch canceling

[tropic jewel]

I really could use some input here

[azure oriole]

it lowers your dps

is definetly a no no

[tropic jewel]

I haven't messed with PB cancelling

[modern mirage]

for me it doesnt work

[azure oriole]

you have to punch weapon key shoot punch weapon key shoot

[tropic jewel]

What is the RD mod good for then?

[modern mirage]

i did and no improvement

[slow sigil]

Why not just kill them with dblade

[azure oriole]

you're timingi t wrong then

[azure oriole]

none, any full automatic weapon in DE is meant for casual purpose