doom-eternal

[crude arch]

When I wait for him to attack, he just stands there

Never going green

Is there another wave of demons after the tyrant?

[bronze zodiac]

there is no tyrant in holt slayer gate tho

it being 2 archville into blood makyr + hellknight and the gang into another blood makyr and 2 doom hunter and spirited marauder

with carcass as companion and shield zombie on marauder part

hmm is anyone having issue with doom eternal since yesterday/early today? i have sudden fps drop for no reason and kinda frustrating cuz idk how to fix it sadge

[north narwhal]

How I get good at slayer

[crude arch]

I could've assured you there was one after the Maruader...

[crude arch]

And that's it?

[bronze zodiac]

@crude arch yeah I was spending 5h trying to beat Holt without dieing just a week ago. Not my fav thing I can say

Samuel fight can either be very good or very wrong depends on those blood makyr asshat

[halcyon basin]

can they not put a marauder every five minutes in doom eternal?

[tulip stump]

💀

[crude arch]

Oh, well, now I don't feel so bad, bc I've been spending the last two days on the last purple gate for the DLC part 1. I've just been so tilted and lowkey raging.

Actually nah

I've been raging.

[bronze zodiac]

Idm marauder or even 2 honestly as long as you have enough room to move around. Just please not in a small arena

@crude arch yeah I get ya. That slayer gate can be a tough cookie

I found out that after you kill archville the blood makyr and hellknights will spawn. Kill makyr to spawn the 2nd makyr. If you touch the knight they will spawn 2 doom hunter asap which kinda hellnah

So try to yeet the makyr before touch the knight can help

[crude arch]

Ah, the Hell Knight part is good to know, ty mate :)

(for reference im playing the game on nightmare difficulty)

[bronze zodiac]

Dw man am also on nightmare

[crude arch]

It's just

[bronze zodiac]

Trying to do master level on nightmare atm but somehow doom got mega laggy these 2 days

[crude arch]

aaarrrgghhh

Sometimes I feel like I can't do anything, even if I keep shmoving.

[crude arch]

Rly? Not for me.

[bronze zodiac]

I dread Holt more than TAG2 ngl. TAG 2 is much easier than holt

Davoth kinda... A joke

Oh trust me am trying taras nabad master level and it made me ragequit more than I can count

[crude arch]

I haven't enjoyed the DLC all that much, except the first level, which was ight. The second had moments here and there. But the third? It feels like I have to be an experienced FPS and DOOM player.

DOOM Eternal is the first game ever to make me rage quit

Ever.

[bronze zodiac]

Nah. I only start FPS a year ago with halo. My friends keep nagging me so i start FPS. I still have less than 100h in eternal so prob still newbie kek

Ya ain't alone fam. I mostly do turn base mmorpg before I touch doom

@crude arch try darkest dungeon then. You will feel it

[slow sigil]

Even on lower difficulties?

[empty basin]

Sometimes it just happens yeah, try checking your drivers

[bronze zodiac]

i did update all of them

but yeah all we can do just hope it works since it suddenly just lag without much reasoning

game doesnt want me to shoot mars lmao. it only happen when i picked up mars core

[empty basin]

If it's too hard to the point where you don't enjoy it anymore, there's no harm in lowering the difficulty.
Sure it can feel frustrating to see the game "beat you", but it just means that you can try coming back to your usual difficulty later on when you're more experienced with the game.

The same thing happened to me when I first started Ultrakill, I got too overconfident and started the game on the hardest difficulty (Violent) and had to drop down 2 difficulties (Lenient) just on the 3rd level on the game because Violent was too much for me at the time.
Then after I completed the game on Lenient, I play the game again on Violent and managed to complete it.

Overall, there's not much point in playing games if you're not enjoying it, so just drop down the difficulty for now if it feels a bit too much for you.

[bronze zodiac]

me : too stubborn to do that. honestly whenever i feel like i lose to them am thinking : you can do more than this come on. and continue on

we are stronger than we thought

[slow sigil]

Your personal "pride" shouldn't get in the way of enjoying games though, that's just unhealthy

[bronze zodiac]

i always challenging myself with things so for me beating it is worth it

the feeling of : wow i really did that. holy moly" it just great

[slow sigil]

Challenging is fine, but straight up not being able to do something and getting actively frustrated at yourself for it is a bit harsher then "challenging"

If the game is too hard for you and you get frustrated.... then it aint the difficulty you should play at

[bronze zodiac]

also...since these last 2 days doom suddenly become laggy for me for some reason

[slow sigil]

Rip

[bronze zodiac]

everything the same for months now but it just decide to start lagging. do you have any advice on it

[grizzled pagoda]

I completed doom today for the first time in my life-

congratulations

[slow sigil]

Nope, i'm not a tech gal

[meager swallow]

oh

he will be in every map since the first bossfight

gl 👍

marauder

oohh gg then

marauder is kinda ass to fight against but yeah nothing too bad

tag1?

i thought tag2 was harder

the only really hard part of tag1 was the final boss for me

[slow sigil]

Lol no

[meager swallow]

but then again i play on hurt me plenty cuz idk storyline or something

funny hammer is so fun

[slow sigil]

They tried to adapt a different design philosophy for tag2 that just straight up doesn't work for the game they made

Which also makes it unnecessary easier

[meager swallow]

no im not a god gamer when it comes to eternal

[slow sigil]

Except all these people would have already left at tag1

[bronze zodiac]

TAG2 is more fun

but not as hard as tag1

[empty basin]

TAG2 encounters has a lot of parts where it felt like a heavy demon or two failed to spawn

[bronze zodiac]

but holy moly the hammer is alot of fun

nah i just dont like the mist fight

i like long tough battle like the final one in the world spear

[empty basin]

A lot of experienced players don't like the Possessed Baron -> Hell Knight change on TAG 1, but personally I understand why the devs made the change

A Possessed Baron is way too tanky for the average joe to take down as their first Possessed demon

[bronze zodiac]

wait you mean samuel could have summoned a possessed pain elemental and a baron?

[empty basin]

oh no I mean the first Possessed demon encounter on the right side trial of The Blood Swamps

[bronze zodiac]

oh...tbh idm if it's baron on that

[empty basin]

Where nowadays you encounter a lone Possessed Hell Knight with a turret on the side above raised ground

I also understand why people would not like the change, the fight is pretty hard but also really memorable

[bronze zodiac]

overall melee possessed demon only tough i feel when in a super tight space

[empty basin]

I think they could've went with Possessed Hell Knight -> kill -> a normal Baron joins in when you try to beam down the Spirit

[bronze zodiac]

apparently reason i lag because steam being a goofball and try to synch a game for these last 2 days

[empty basin]

oh lol, I assume you have it resolved now

[bronze zodiac]

am like fck it and deleted the game and it back

[empty basin]

oh so you reinstalled the game?

[bronze zodiac]

would need to replay it in the future anyway since it has big updates

i mean we are having it tho right?

[empty basin]

You mean post-game completion?

[bronze zodiac]

in your opinion which possessed enemy cause you the most trouble

[empty basin]

probably Doom Hunter

[bronze zodiac]

yeah you cant really...leave master level

others aint so bad honestly

[empty basin]

Oh Master Levels, yeah unfortunately we won't see an implementation of checkpoint loading for that anytime soon

[slow sigil]

yes would be really cool if the game had say, a checkpoint after every arena that autosaved. hmm

for master levels, i think their safe system wasn't really compatible with them and it probably was too much of a headache to try and figure out properly

i think hugo once mentioned they tried it but couldn't get it working? unsure

[empty basin]

Possessed Doom Hunters needs it sled to be destroyed to be killed, but since Possessed enemies can't be faltered, you end up taking massive melee damage everytime you try to Blood Punch its sled

though I don't think the base game has any Possessed Doom Hunters ever?

[slow sigil]

you can destroy the sled without BPing

and also, shield exists

[empty basin]

I don't really use the shield so it's just a me issue yeah, lol

[bronze zodiac]

possessed enemy has 66% dmg immunity so sled is even harder to destroy

[empty basin]

The only time I ever use it consistently is against gigantic tentacles

[bronze zodiac]

except for BP and BFG i think

[empty basin]

other than that, I just never use it

[bronze zodiac]

yeah me

[slow sigil]

as a shield

[empty basin]

Well, the shield gives you full damage nullification so yes a lot of people do use it

[slow sigil]

the actual gun is hot garbage lol, but the shield is on demand godmode

[bronze zodiac]

i just use it to give those archville some knucklesandwich and kill them

[slow sigil]

also, shield bashing does more damage then the turret

[empty basin]

it's so freaking weird that the "shield" is just cosmetic and with the press of ONE button, you gain a full godmode

3 years ago I thought that it only shields you from frontal attacks

[bronze zodiac]

yeah i just charge into archville with shield bash and 2 BP on its face. pretty nice

[slow sigil]

if you abandon shield you abandon CG alltogether

it's simply not worth it to use the turret except for pos maras

[bronze zodiac]

i mean if you have time to use turret prob just use other weapon ig

[empty basin]

The only time where Mobile Turret is good is if you face a lone Baron of Hell, since they take increased falter chances from that mod

apart from that, it's not very good

[slow sigil]

you should be able to dodge a lone baron with ease

[bronze zodiac]

microwave beam is better than heat blast like way way more wdym

[empty basin]

Yeah which is more of a detriment to the MT

[slow sigil]

both PR mods are bad

[bronze zodiac]

but microwave can hitstun possessed

[empty basin]

I'm pretty sure Heat Blast and Microwave Beam are pretty equal nowadays.

Equally bad that is, but they are definitely not useless.

[bronze zodiac]

the only thing can hitstun possessed

[empty basin]

I wonder if someone has made a mod that buffs Microwave Beam.. oh wait
https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1452

[slow sigil]

nothing in the game is useless except like CG base fire, and MM

[bronze zodiac]

i just use microwave more since i can take out possessed or troublesome enemies easier

[slow sigil]

you have to pre-charge it though

and PR base fire is bad, like baddd bad

[empty basin]

MM?

[slow sigil]

if it came with a free charge after X seconds it would be useable

[slow sigil]

micro missiles

[empty basin]

oh idk I think Micro Missiles is pretty good on Mastery, it's just that 99 times out of 100 PB is just better

[bronze zodiac]

i think the reason we think micro missile is bad is that PB is too good i think

[slow sigil]

meh without it MM would just be mediocre

[bronze zodiac]

even for someone cant quickswitch/Slob like me feel PB still much more useful

[slow sigil]

micro isn't good but not horrible either

it's still usually just better to shoot them outright

[empty basin]

It actually deals rougly the same DPS as the Mobile Turret, without the transformation delay and slowing your movement speed

For one it melts through bosses like the Khan Maykr and Icon of Sin really easily, especially the latter since it has damage resistanc to Mobile Turret

[slow sigil]

which is also bad

[empty basin]

It's really good for Horde Mode's Blitz Rounds

where you get respawning Quad Damage pickups

[slow sigil]

and if it is, that just means you aren't using your other weapons enough

you kow what FA doesn't recharge? your other weapons
you know what does? chainsaw
using FA does nothing as you still chainsaw just as often, which returns shells anyways making it redundant

it has it's niche with a 4x multiplier but that's it so meh

[slow sigil]

i wouldn't call a mod good if it has a slight niche

[empty basin]

Blitz Rounds has no fodder to chainsaw, and while there are ammo pickups there, they are placed sporadically so ammo conservation became a huge problem for a lot of other weapons.
There is the hammer but it takes 4 charges and if the enemies has no weakpoints to break, then you pretty much never use the hammer there.

However this isn't a problem for Full Auto, since there's Quad Damage its damage issue is nulled and it gives you shells for every kill for free.
So you just run around the map cycling through the 2 Quad Damage pickups and go full rambo.

[bronze zodiac]

if there are too many just hammer them

[empty basin]

I did try using other weapons for Blitz Rounds but the result always varies, while Full Auto always consistently gets around 30 kills

[bronze zodiac]

they instant die from hammer anyway

[empty basin]

You can also just go full stubborn mode and gun them down the usual way

[slow sigil]

or dblade

[slow sigil]

meh worth it more to swap

[empty basin]

What they have are just damage resistances instead of full nullification, so they are basically just smaller heavy enemies

[bronze zodiac]

wait DBlade also kill them? idk that tbh

[empty basin]

yeah DBlade still instant kills them

[slow sigil]

they still take damage, it's just reduced

they roughly have whiplash HP

[bronze zodiac]

oh yeah full charge DBlade can kill heavy/glory kill state so that makes sense

[empty basin]

I mean if you got a lot of other demons to keep track of, it might not be worth it to spend the time switching to Full Auto and then back to Sticky Bombs.

I've had a number of deaths on ML mods trying to kill Stone Imps by switching to Full Auto in busy encounters

[bronze zodiac]

also do you have the link of other master level. i am trying to beat all of them on nightmare

[empty basin]

Have you beaten all the game's official master levels to start?

or have I recommended you some ML mods before and I just forgot?

[bronze zodiac]

only 1 left. and i kinda want like a full ML too. you havent reccomended me yet kek (Except world spear but i think i am not ready for it yet)

[empty basin]

So The World Spear is the only ML you haven't completed?

For official ones, the World Spear takes the cake for me

[empty basin]

After you complete The World Spear Master Level, here's what to do.

First, to play the game with mods, you need to install EternalModInjector, click the link and read the installation instructions to begin.
https://gamebanana.com/tools/download/7475

[bronze zodiac]

Oh...

[empty basin]

Now, for Master Level mods, here are the 3 easier ones that I recommend first, sorted from easier to harder:

1. Arc Complex Master Level Rework by Beth (https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/1282) (The new one that you play from Mission Select instead of Master Levels tab)
2. UAC Atlantica Master Level by Konvaz
3. ReclaimDen (Reclaimed Earth) by Payoyo, Potdechoucroute & Leix
   They all take around 40-50 minutes to complete for the first time, and the latter two can be searched on Nexusmods. I'm just not sharing the links because the VEGA bot hates it when people post links too fast.

Note that you should only install 1 level mods at a time, since they can cause conflicts.

[bronze zodiac]

Hmm i see...

[empty basin]

After you complete those 3, then you can ask me for more recommendations

Wouldn't want to overwhelm you with the options to pick, because there is a lot of them

and I made the mistake of picking a really hard Master Level mod as my first ever ML mod that I've tried

nah it's not that long

for an actual 2 hours-long Master Level mod, well..

That's where you start to get into the harder side of community level mods

There's also stuffs like Beth's Master Level mods which are mostly comically short and easy

like it took me only 13 minutes to clear their Doom Hunter Base ML

but they were mostly made on the game's early days so it's understandable why they are so short and easy

[bronze zodiac]

I mean am not that good at doom eternal. I just want to enjoy the sheer madness of it

But I want to atleast able to beat it with my own hand

[empty basin]

yeah I did take that to consideration, which is why I recommended those 3 first

[bronze zodiac]

Ye thank you~

If i have question will asl ya

[empty basin]

👍 good luck and have fun

[meager swallow]

i finally cleared eternal

final boss of tag2 was easier than i expected its just annoying

one unnoticable stab and hes at full health

kinda bs but at least theres fodder to keep yourself alive

[azure oriole]

I was beating the final boss but then all the monsters spawned in a ring around me so I couldn't make it out so to keep my extra lives i quit and now I just beat him

[azure oriole]

I couldn't move

There were cacodemons in the sky that blocked the air off

Thanks

[jolly kernel]

outside of killing Spirits, is there any other good use for the microwave beam?

like perhaps stunning and damaging Arch-Viles with it then finishing them off with stronger weapons

[twin silo]

Hi guys, just joined the server!

[meager swallow]

congratulations.

[cyan frigate]

welcome gamer 😎👍

[vale pebble]

Hi

[twin silo]

How are y’all

[vale pebble]

Good

[leaden quail]

idk what else to talk abt doom eternal other than i completed it

[vale pebble]

Why do you want to murder David baszucki

[jolly kernel]

in cases where you don't have the crucible or any other way to effortlessly kill it, what quickswap combos do you guys use to quickly kill an Arch-Vile?

not only their flame attacks are extremely damaging and push you back, they also lead those attacks

[tender crypt]

yall i just saw a vid of someone saying "finally completed this on ultra-nightmare, how does anyone do this so quick" and they proceeded to only use SSG

like..bro..use anything else..

[tender crypt]

also.. shoot them?

ah, better

[leaden quail]

yea i got mad that my account got hacked

[glossy warren]

freeze + lock on

[young mango]

No not really, in the time you spent trying to stunlock that archvile you could’ve just SLOB’d it

There’s so many quick ways to kill superheavies that even thinking about using microwave beam is a joke

[summer wedge]

Tf is slob

[young mango]

Sylar Lock on Burst, basically a quick way of doing lock on burst, and it is a guaranteed double volley if done correctly, it can be initiated two ways, a FSE applicator ( precision bolt is most commonly used ), fire a rocket, and lock on immediately after, the second way is tap rmb, tap lmb, hold rmb, tap lmb, in both methods the way to guarantee a second volley is to let go of both lmb and rmb the instant the first volley fires

[jolly kernel]

how this tactic would be like:
freeze + 2 blood punches + precision bolt + slob

[young mango]

?

[summer wedge]

Im on switch and I just git the crusible idk anything abt what u just said😭

[jolly kernel]

I'm talking about if it's enough to kill them before they completely unfreeze and start using those devastating flame attacks

[young mango]

basically lmb = left mouse button, rmb = right mouse button, your equivalents are ZR and ZL respectively

[young mango]

Yes a singular slob is enough to kill them, even if the initial rocket from the SLOB misses, just throwing down a frag grenade Is enough to kill them outright, 2700x2 = 5400 5400 + 710 = 6110 and archviles only have 6000 health

[jolly kernel]

nice

I really hate the enemy attacks that cause you to uncontrollably get pushed back

like the energy waves by the Whiplash, Carcass and Tyrant

[young mango]

The worst part about melee attacks from enemies is aim punch, it’s quite ridiculous having your crosshair knocked off majorly by melee attacks

[glossy warren]

I sometimes dont use blood punch outright unless its a marad and im not putting up with the waiting game'

[young mango]

wdym by this? blood punch outside of greenlight/stagger just gets blocked by his shield

[glossy warren]

idk I just like smacking the shit out of him once he gets greenlit

[young mango]

Then how Is that “not putting up with the waiting game”

[glossy warren]

because its free damage

[jolly kernel]

I like blood punching Carcasses because it instantly puts them in a glory kill state and then you can kill them that way to immediately get a blood punch back, it's basically a free kill

[young mango]

are you serious.

“?” As if I’m the confusing one here

okay so if you’re bloodpunching him during his green light that’s an opening you already had

And you do realize that the hit you do on their greenlight doesn’t deal full damage right

[glossy warren]

they have resistance to bp?

[young mango]

holy shit

it’s like you’re not listening to me at all

[meager swallow]

just shoot him it is not difficult

[glossy warren]

I dont bp him on the opening

[young mango]

when do you

[jolly kernel]

speaking of the Marauder, remember that pb + frag grenade + slob tactic that I talk about using to quickly kill him?

[glossy warren]

thats what most people do

[crude arch]

Tbh, it’s more so the last fight before the boss fight in level 2 TAG 1 and the purple gate in level 3 that’s been taking soo long. It’s rly the two big roadblocks.

[jolly kernel]

I wonder if being close to the Marauder while using slob increases the chance of succesfully killing him and instead not using his shield to block the rockets

[crude arch]

What dat?

[glossy warren]

you shouldnt have to move closer

[young mango]

like you’re being very vague and confusing, “smack the shit out of him when he’s greenlit” implies you do it when he’s green lighting, but then you proceed to say, “because it’s free damage” implying you try to do it outside of his greenlight, it’s just like you gotta be trolling me at this point with how vague you’re being

[glossy warren]

greenlit = staggered, I shouldve specified

[meager swallow]

well when hes staggered hes not greenlit anymore

[young mango]

How was it considered “free damage”, considering you can’t punch and shoot at the same time

[halcyon folio]

Need players boost online trophy

[light mantle]

How many phases does the seraphim fight have in ancient gods part 1?

[autumn turret]

4

[light mantle]

Thank you

[crude arch]

The gameplay is still good, I think it’s more so these things, the map layout in some fights, the spirit possessing super heavy demons, and the music. That’s it rly.

[autumn turret]

My first run was in Ultra-Violence, I really enjoyed The Blood Swamps and UAC Atlantica Facility, the soundtrack was good for me, but the difficult was another thing.
The difficulty radicates in the tighter spaces with more super heavies and with more buff totems and spirits. UAC Atlantica has more than 5 barons and I think more than 3 Tyrants. It's insane for a player within his first runs as me. And The Holt was the only level I rage quitted. The last phase made me angry, because I couldn't damage the seraphim AND FIGHT AGAINST HIM. Just with his minions.

I think it's important to note that TAG 1 is for advanced players who know the art of faltering, wise resource control, armor harvesting, etc.

I now enjoy TAG 1, but as the first run, never.

[young mango]

I don’t think it’s necessary for a player to be advanced to clear TAG1

[crude arch]

This is some good advice ty mate. Although, I’ve always played on the hardest difficulty my whole life for any game and I want that challenge. I think what I need is just patience tbh.

[vale pebble]

I did it while still doing ssg pb rocket as my main combo lol

[crude arch]

THIS, this sums up perfectly my thoughts on TAG 1. (even if i played it on nightmare)

[autumn turret]

Even with all the troubles, I LOVE the first Blood Swamps arena trial.

[crude arch]

I haven’t gotten to the last part yet

[autumn turret]

You haven't finished TAG 1?

[crude arch]

I’m currently on the purple gate still

3rd level

[autumn turret]

The Holt right?

[crude arch]

Yes, takes place in Urdak

[autumn turret]

Ambience is such a great experience

After every arena you can just watch the scenary

and feels like you have corrupted a place so much that it is now an echo of a dead world

[crude arch]

I think it’s just the fact that Urdak

Is so graphically pleasing to look at

[meager swallow]

urdak theme is so oddly satisfying to listen to

it sounds like horrors beyond human comprehension but its also such a banger

[autumn turret]

It's the chants, and angelical voices that try to remind you you are in heaven, but alien infrastructure tells you otherwise

And The Holt feels like what I said, an ''Echo of a Dead World''

Great now I want to play The Holt.

[slow sigil]

You want a challenge.
Having to leave your screen in rage and thinking you need to be an "advanced FPSer" is above challenging

[crude arch]

Wdym thinking I need to be “advanced FPSer”?

[slow sigil]

experienced, remembered the wrong word

[brave oar]

QQ - I just repurchased Doom Eternal on Steam and trying to load in a 100% save game file. I have a Steam Deck and Doom is installed on the SD card. I think there might new two save files locations, but having trouble finding them. Can someone assist? Thanks!

[meager swallow]

i play on hurt me plenty which is not ultra hard but still gives a challenge and yeah im not dying but im also not speeding thru levels, its just about finding a middle ground between the game being boring because its too easy and boring because youre constantly dying

and then maybe bump up the difficulty for the next playthrough :3

[slow sigil]

eternal works best whilst it is challenging you. Ofc not being able to move forward isn't challenging it's just straight up blocking you

[crude arch]

@bronze zodiac @slow sigil I did it, I finally freaking did it. The key was to just keep my cool, and to not get upset when I died at any point during the fight.

[slow sigil]

focus tends to make you perform better

[empty basin]

ayy congrats 👍

[meager swallow]

legend

[crude arch]

Screw the Marauder with Spirit.

Once I 100% it

Never again.

[slow sigil]

it's optional content for a reason

[light mantle]

Has anyone else encountered the problem where in horde mode traversal stage u fall into a pit right when it ends and you are stuck in the stage and unable to leave it?

I had to leave and renters then I had to replay some of it

[atomic tusk]

Hello i am new here and thinking to buy doom eternal but i have small question does this game has repetitive pve mode for fun after finishing campaign or not ?

[slow sigil]

It has a great addicting gameplay loop with things you can redo yes

[random vault]

horde mode is fine

i think a doom eternal cybergrind would’ve been cooler

[atomic tusk]

Okay thanks guys

[glossy warren]

would be cool for the next doom game

[versed parrot]

Im curious what the next game will be

[glossy warren]

itd be harder to implement well designed arenas with the cybergrind system but I think an endless gauntlet would be sick

[light mantle]

I just beat horde mode fort 1st time 😄

[atomic tusk]

Grats , is it repetitive like how many arenas are there cuz yet dont have the game

[light mantle]

There's 9 total arenas with 2-4 rounds on each one and a few bonus stuff between each arenas like traversal ones and collecting coins it's really fun in my opinion

It isn't to repetitive because you unlock a random weapon each one and all of the arenas are quite diffrent

[atomic tusk]

Thanks for all infos , but is there level progression for doing horde mode ?

[empty basin]

you mean on whether or not it gives you doom level EXP? then yeah it does

[light mantle]

Yeah and u get skins and stuff for enemies, guns, and doom guy

[atomic tusk]

Sounds fun , is horde mode only pve existing mode ?

[light mantle]

Yes

I've heard the pvp mode is fun but I haven't played it yet

[atomic tusk]

Not pvp fan just gonna buy game soon to finish campaign and horde mode

[light mantle]

It also has 2 dlc for about 40 dollars I think

I got the first one and beat it

[slow sigil]

Levels are extremely replayable aswel

[blazing pike]

True fact

[glossy warren]

when bethesda acc gets dced so you have to redo mars core un master level

[young mango]

don’t worry imo it’s the second shortest master level next to gore nest ( I’m not counting cultist and arc, those are too obvious )

World spear is the longest master level by a mile for some reason though, my fastest casual time for each level goes like this:
SGN: 21:31
Mars Core: 31:58
Taras Nabad: 32:41
World spear: 44:14
Wtf is that huge jump in time?

I wish longest meant most difficult, Taras will always take the cake for that

[lucid siren]

I didn't realise it was that long, but now that I think about it, it does comprise several different environments which play like two several levels back-to-back, like when you reach the icy part.

I mean I'm watching the YouTube video of the World Speak, which is 34 minutes long, which I'm guessing is pretty packed. I'd take about an hour to complete it, but the same can be said for most maps, since I probably don't play them often enough.

[sweet heron]

You know a game is fun when an extra challenge throws an enemy that hasn't even been encountered yet into the mix

[young mango]

in what world does a casual playthough be that length😭😭 that’s either a god level player or a botched speedrun

( unless you’re talking about base level )

[lucid siren]

No, it's just regular play, but it's on Nightmare, not UN. I haven't finished watching it, so it might skip parts...

[glossy warren]

I remember playing taras on switch and it kicked my ass

[lucid siren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6YwT07apU0

[glossy warren]

ofc its smvr

he's a beast, even more so for being a console player

[young mango]

Okay thank god it’s the base level

[sweet heron]

like seriously
||two tyrants in the level 6 encounter?||

[lucid siren]

Ah, I've never heard of him, I just typed in "The World Spear".

[young mango]

The slayer gate?

[sweet heron]

yes

[lucid siren]

But anyway, I love that these things take long to beat, it makes me feel that it was a well worthy investment. I'm a more mellow player.

[glossy warren]

slayer gates arent meant to be easy (even though they can be sometimes)

[sweet heron]

then again, ||the rocket launcher is pretty effective||

[young mango]

You don’t have to spoil your messages, the games almost 4 years old

[lucid siren]

Yeah, I always enter the gates with tons of anxiety, but they're usually easier than I initially thought, I mean it's just an arena.

[zealous mulch]

I beat the game last night

[lucid siren]

Well done.

[zealous mulch]

For the first time 👍

[lucid siren]

How was it?

[zealous mulch]

Pretty good

[lucid siren]

Did you beat the DLCs too?

[wide marsh]

I swear there were achievements for completing the Weapon Wheel and beating horde mode on nightmare

[zealous mulch]

Nope, I don't have 'em lol

[lucid siren]

Not yet.

[young mango]

For completing the weapon wheel yes, for doing it on nightmare I don’t think there was, but there’s definitely and achievement for beating it outright

[lucid siren]

But you should think about playing them at some point.

[zealous mulch]

I'm going to, I just don't really have the time or money to atm

[lucid siren]

It's cool.

[zealous mulch]

Yeah

[lucid siren]

They'll always be there when you're ready.

[zealous mulch]

Mhm

[lucid siren]

Which level did you enjoy most?

[zealous mulch]

I liked the cultist base

I'm probably the one person who didn't kill the Revenant that gave you the super shotgun

[lucid siren]

Ah.

[glossy warren]

I didn’t in my first play through

He was very polite

[zealous mulch]

I do feel like it would be nicer to kill him tho-

He looked like he was in pain

[tacit iron]

iirc lore-wise revenants are always in complete agony

[young mango]

Revenants from 2016 went extinct and all the revenants in eternal are made by the uac in a demonization process, meaning all of them were former humans ( most of them being demon worshippers )

[tacit iron]

yeah that sounds pretty painful

[empty basin]

It's to be expected if you ask me, since DLC levels are much larger than base campaign levels

they are all basically one campaign level and a half

except for The Dark Lord

[glossy warren]

It hurts to be any demon I think but pain elementals and revs have it the worst

[young mango]

that’s really debatable, average level length for campaign any% restricted is 4:20 and average length length for TAG2 is 4:41, not that huge of a difference

[young mango]

In response to this

[empty basin]

Uh I don't think any% speedruns are a really good benchmark when considering a level's length?

Since you know... it doesn't actually play the levels "normally"

Or by your "casual time", did you mean that you were doing any% speedruns also?

[jade stirrup]

yall. i fricken love doom

[young mango]

When I say casual time I mean runs without any major skips and no super weapon usage

[empty basin]

I mean you can just count how many encounters/fights you're doing between Taras Nabad and World Spear

[young mango]

I mean using casual playthroughs as comparison is possibly even more inconsistent than comparing world records because there’s no way to gauge equal skill

But I did the math there’s an almost 3 minute difference in level average for 100% ACE campaign and TAG1: campaign wr being 7:49 level average and TAG1 wr being 10:37, this is the most restricted category possible

[jade stirrup]

[young mango]

Even then you could sway this in the DLCs favor considering 100% campaign you’re allowed to skip arenas as long as you don’t miss a collectible/miss a weapon point, but in 100% ACE TAG1 you’re forced to do a community sanctioned list of “mandatory” encounters, I would use non ACE TAG1 as a comparison but the wr for that is even worse somehow, so it’s a non comparison due to it being a less contested category

[young mango]

What would your benchmark be

[empty basin]

idk I usually just time it manually with my phone's stopwatch

at least for ML mods

or just steam's playtime count if the level isn't too long and I didn't do any bathroom breaks

[steep wind]

ok played again, it's hard to grasp the movement in this game, and the purple goop just sucks

but otherwise, it's just a skill issue for now

any tips?

still on ultra violence and still a little used to 2016

[lucid siren]

LOL, the purple goo's there to throw you a curve ball. At this point you should be pretty good at the game, so it's there to keep your ego in check and offer up another challenge. I think it's pretty cool.

[jade stirrup]

<@&162901871168585728>

whats happend to the gun hold in doom???!!1

its in the middle of my screen!!

[spare marsh]

We're not your personal support team. Please only ping the moderator role for issues concerning this server.

[jade stirrup]

soz

https://tenor.com/view/سؤال-سؤال-وجواب-تريندينغ-gif-12622060486477759187

[empty basin]

Settings -> Game -> Classic Weapon Pose -> Disable

[jade stirrup]

ahhhh ok

i like it tho ngl

[empty basin]

don't disable it then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jade stirrup]

lol

[paper pier]

But I won’t need to play the whole level to get to him

[young mango]

You could also just practice on the one In the beginning of Taras

[exotic warren]

Yo anybody here play console and claw. If so what’s y’all’s recommended controller binds? I play on ps5 with a normal ps5 controller

[paper pier]

ahhh yeah that one

btw what about tyrants? i find them to be very scary with laser pointer

[empty basin]

Nekravol Part I has a lone tyrant right before the gates early in the level

It's the go-to place for people to practice and record Tyrant combos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoZuQ-4REIw

[young mango]

I Love the feeling of beating a master level after like 30 minutes and it being an actually decent run

[jade stirrup]

@white helm

[small helm]

it's literally that we don't know

[young mango]

It was a leaked title and that’s it, literally nobody knows anything about it at all, not one bit, anybody who thinks or says otherwise is just speculating and making stuff up

[vale pebble]

All we know is that the name "year zero* exists

[empty basin]

Release Date ETA -2024

[misty tusk]

can anyone recommend a gameplay mod

[paper pier]

How to marauder while I have only 55 health

4 wolves in 8 seconds man I wish it is punishable

[empty basin]

If you kill the Marauder's wolf immediately after it's summoned, he'll respond with immediately summoning another one

It's best to wait around 2-3 seconds before killing it

As for how to face him at 55 HP, well look for some fodders around the arena to glory-kill.

Funny thing is that I just got the thing you're talking about in a community Master Level mod.
A Marauder got stuck in a small elevated platform since his pathfinding is broken there or something, and whenever I try to approach him he just shotguns me off the platform, so I had to face him at 25 HP.

Needless to say, I died and had to restart the whole encounter, it was the last wave too.

[misty tusk]

.

[young mango]

Be more specific, like a master level of sorts?

[misty tusk]

gameplay

gameplay mod like increasing movement speed, not levels

[young mango]

Personally I wouldn’t alter the physics of the game in an advantageous way

But just go around on nexus I’m sure you can find some good stuff

[misty tusk]

ok

[misty tusk]

how do i download particles 9000 btw

when i download it, it says i need a file installed but when i got to install instructions, it says nothing there

[misty tusk]

nvm i did it know

[azure oriole]

Try using cheat codes, i recommend Overdrive since it increases your overall gameplay speed (beware you cant really quickswitch better/faster than without Overdrive)

[misty tusk]

mm i dont use it but ok

[azure oriole]

U using pc or console?

[misty tusk]

pc

[azure oriole]

i suggest you use an fov mod increaser, since higher fov = faster looking speed.

Dont increase it too high tho, you will get that ugly tunneling effect if you do so.

I recomend 120-140 fov

[gusty stag]

Hello! I'm new here but i can give you my point of view. Tbh i feel like is not that different, but playing doom 2016 is worth the time because it is a lot of fun. Plus you get a little more context and lore on how everything is the way it is in doom eternal.

[small helm]

don't think, just play, great experience

[paper pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011853044398436385/1193558598727507989/image.png?ex=65ad2711&is=659ab211&hm=f775bee3d3b967148629980e0062525166e75f03c9312621ad751dfee6d39252&

I love it when John Doomguy says "It's Dooming time" and Doom all overthe place

[meager swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[pseudo mirage]

guys, so I finished Eternal on UNM with M&K.. the next challenge I said to myself I want to finish it with a controller WITH all the combat encounters (🤣 ). Sooo the farthest I got was Gladiator, but when I'm replaying the game I keep dying on the first slayer gate (the later ones are easier for me as I have quick dash, quick swap, and other suit upgrades)...And of course I keep dying in Cultist Base (the pit mostly)..I get inspired by Smvr, but I'm a long way to go to be that good. He's something else.. (I honestly have no idea how he's doing it with that PS4/PS5 input lag caused by the triple buffered Vsynced 60hz/120hz that Eternal uses on consoles..no idea at all)
Do you guys have any tips for me? 🙂

Or just git gud? 😂

[slow sigil]

Fyi @misty tusk there is no need for an FOV mod, basic console commands can set it to whichever vallur you want. Just use G_FOV xxx

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890909009526267935/1193572394938400818/image.png?ex=65ad33ea&is=659abeea&hm=9e3577caf0555bd0b8d840eff548278d22f176f2cb643a31a66240875c1a1f98&
@atomic tusk so to answer you, there is the dlc and master levels together with the later campaign levels which are very replayable

don't see it as just a story mode, the campaign is the main pve mode

[paper pier]

what about where he says to Khan Myaker that "You can't stop me, for I am the Doom, Eternal"

[eternal nebula]

The doom butterfly effect is kinda insane
Guy gets sent to mars
To
guy saves the universe from the dark lord/all demons

And that evolution of his mission, even if it means he’s going a little insane is really interesting to me

[left atlas]

I’m so fucking good at doom

Holy shit just played battleground 2.0 made my enemies FLEE just ripping and tearing booty cheeks like nothing

[eternal nebula]

The true slayer experience

[left atlas]

Frfr

Flexing with my golden bounty lord outfit also

• inspect shotgun stance

[eternal nebula]

BASED

I am slowly working my way up in difficulty to get better at this game, and getting smoother weapon swaps

still kinda scuffed but I respect the hell out of people with high skill

[left atlas]

It’s so worth it u know what I highly recommend? Hord mode highest difficulty

[left atlas]

I respect everyone in the doom community knowing I’m in a huge fan base with people similar to me just makes me happy (no autistic gays unfortunately 😔)

[eternal nebula]

Oh yeah same i just meant that I’m impressed lol

[slow sigil]

fyi horde mode even on the highest difficulty is extremely easy to complete

[eternal nebula]

Well…. I may be both of those things LMAOOOOO

[left atlas]

Yes but limited weapons means you have to rely on weapon swapping which just helped me become better

[eternal nebula]

I’ll plan on trying that then

[slow sigil]

i wouldn't really say it encourages weapon swapping, if anything it discourages it if you don't get the right weapons for it fast

[left atlas]

Yesterday I got the unmadded milestone completed example

[slow sigil]

hell you literally start out with not being able to swap at all

[eternal nebula]

It might be worth trying for me anyways

Just to spice it up

[left atlas]

Word but still like you start with the shotgun and then get something random which is a great start

[slow sigil]

everything ingame is worth it imo, even though i've never done battlemode

[eternal nebula]

So true!

[slow sigil]

yeah and the random thing could be something usefull, or something which still won't encourage swapping

[glossy warren]

horde mode would be cool if the parkour sections were scrapped

[left atlas]

Considering I know use the classic super shotgun ballista combo all the time

[slow sigil]

actually, you're more likely to get something that's better to just not swap with and just punchswap till it's empty

[left atlas]

I love the parkour mode

[glossy warren]

I respect the devs for trying something different but whats the point 😭

[slow sigil]

nah, those are ok to break it up. what it really needed was a coherent design philosophy

[left atlas]

Does not back up my statement but still shotgun + anything else is the way to go

[slow sigil]

it's point based! but it's also random weapons and you can't get many points for playing well overall, only in very few places...
it wants to be replayable! yet you start with very little variation in your arsenal and the arenas change barely...

[eternal nebula]

the first time i played horde mode the game gave me the chain gun first

[vital ravine]

Why do titans have blue streaks on them when the handle of the crucible is taken from the crucible itself

[left atlas]

And I really like expressing my greatness like playing battlemode and just tearing booties

[slow sigil]

like.... what is it exactly trying to be??

[glossy warren]

thats my main issue

[vital ravine]

Like when it’s been subdued by the crucible

[slow sigil]

good question, it's just visuals

[vital ravine]

Fairs but is there nothing In the codex for it?

[glossy warren]

I dont think there is

[pseudo mirage]

variation 🙂 it's also for breaking up the high intensity combat sections which exhaust players..

[slow sigil]

can't remember anything that specific

[left atlas]

Honestly I just love everything about doom I just wish there was another mode that I chould play with friends (non existent)

[eternal nebula]

I thought it was the energy of the crucible pulsing through it uncontrolled so paralyzing them

[slow sigil]

the only complaint i have about the parkour intermissions is that they should follow a bit more of what you actually do inside of arenas, which are very void of breakable walls, meathook joints, and a bit more common monkey bars

and no dash refills

[eternal nebula]

I am so desperate for co op oml

[glossy warren]

meathook joints were probably the best movement addition to the game outside of the actual meathook

[left atlas]

Yes omg like an cod zombies mode whould be awesome!

[pseudo mirage]

yeah, it would be better if they teach you something combat - related

[vital ravine]

I could see how the platforming mechanics were necessary in a game like doom eternal but I still don’t like it ngl

[slow sigil]

only to barely be used in arenas cause it was too late

[glossy warren]

:((

[left atlas]

I haven’t gotten the ancient gods dlcs yet is it worth it?

[eternal nebula]

Meathook parkour maps could be fun

[pseudo mirage]

very much so!

[slow sigil]

bit of a neccesary evil
atleast they aren't as horrendous as in ghostrunner....

[eternal nebula]

I think so! It’s more doom in your doom game

[vital ravine]

Thing is though you would have 2 doom slayers and depending on the difficulty and level of skill they could either last forever or getting socked in the jaw they have the audacity to engage a marauder

[vital ravine]

Ye

[glossy warren]

its pretty short as dlcs are but I think its worth

[eternal nebula]

Could still be cool ngl

[slow sigil]

in ghostrunner (atleast early on) you spend like 70% in those parkour sections and 30% in the actual arena's...

eternal is more other way around, and probs even more in the arena (if we don't count searcing around for collectibles)

[pseudo mirage]

I don't like Ghostrunner difficulty inconsistency

[left atlas]

Marauder ain’t even that hard infact just made me better as a player (I really enjoy fighting difficult ops) (except not necessary tanky ones)

[slow sigil]

i only did the first level or so before i got so infuriated with the parkour sections breaking up the cool parts

[vital ravine]

I would love to see doom eternal be put into the style of the old doom games

[pseudo mirage]

me too..

and you know what's missing there? Air Control rune 🙂

[vital ravine]

Ye but I mean if one of the slayers is bad at the game they will get murked by a marauder

[pseudo mirage]

I hate when games have such horrible movement in the air

[slow sigil]

idk where i was exactly but it zoomed out to this like huge ass parkour gauntles with NOT A SINGLE ENEMY after i was already getting tired from how parkour heavy it was, and i just stopped and asked for a refund

[vital ravine]

Frfr

[glossy warren]

no way you cant 2v1 a marad even if one of you is horrible

[eternal nebula]

I thought the way the game gave me a short but satisfying break via parkour from all the action was nice (i like the parkour)

[vital ravine]

Nowadays I want nothing more than a never ending arena ngl

[left atlas]

Exactly one just sprays other one gives back shots that easy

[glossy warren]

also youd need a bunch of random but annoying tweaks

how would the marad shield work? does one of you spam him with pr while the other ballista punchswaps him from behind?

[eternal nebula]

Yea i want that too, like a highscore type deal in my head

[slow sigil]

for most people atleast, they really need the breather after an arena
i just wished they where a bit more like the combats, and if you're good at the movement you can bruise through them (pretty much the case now)

[vital ravine]

Technically if you could divert his attention you could get a shot in while he has his shield up

[left atlas]

Agreed! Just makes me feel like Spider-Man if he had the strength of a thousand gods

[vital ravine]

The parkour for me feels like it needs worked on

It’s not bad but it’s not great

[glossy warren]

itd be a lot harder to implement than say ultrakill because de is just meant to be more realistic and making actual good arenas would be cancer

[left atlas]

Yes that is exactly how it would work if u use the bfg on marauder he only focus on the laser so it’s a perfect opening for just blasting him

We are discussing how co op would work

[glossy warren]

you can

[left atlas]

Co op chould also be something very simple like invite someone to play campaign with

[glossy warren]

yea its the only way I got through doom as a kid

when I first got it on switch

[pseudo mirage]

I play Eternal with a controller on my PC.. you can quick switch fine.. but not PB+Ballista... I can only do ballista + SSG

[eternal nebula]

I would give so much to go through the game with my friends

[left atlas]

Real

[pseudo mirage]

PB+ballista can be done, but it's trickier and not that efficient

[slow sigil]

try pb ssg

[pseudo mirage]

yeah in close proximity it's doable

[slow sigil]

ok then you can try rocket-pb

[glossy warren]

rocket pb my beloved

[pseudo mirage]

yeah it's fine but it's not efficient../. with a controller you have to adapt to a completely different play style than with M+K

I got that from Smvr

[eternal nebula]

What if they add story co op and in the cutscenes there’s two doom slayers I think that would be funny

[slow sigil]

not really that radically
if you are aware that you can hold most of the buttons atleast

[vital ravine]

I saw someone mention how the meat hook points would be good for arenas

[glossy warren]

story co op would work a lot better if it was like 2 arc soldiers

[eternal nebula]

It most likely wouldn’t have cutscenes lol

[glossy warren]

because 2 doomguys would require you to either buff the demons through the fucking roof and beyond or just have a boring time

[pseudo mirage]

to each their own

[slow sigil]

i wished meathook points didn't force you to jump

[vital ravine]

Thing is if there’s some sort of flying demon or tall demon like a tyrant or something you can meathook jump and get the same effect

[eternal nebula]

Yeah probably but i like playing as the guy

[glossy warren]

yea cause you can hook to enemies without doing that

[left atlas]

Yeh true higher difficulty is needed

[vital ravine]

They do?

[left atlas]

20 icon of sins per mission at least

[pseudo mirage]

are you also playing Nightmare?

[slow sigil]

yeah, if you use a meathook joint a the end of the swing you get the same jump as you get if you jump whilst meathooking an enemy
you can cancel this by weapon swapping atleast, but that really shouldn't be the case

[eternal nebula]

Tiny buff to the demons, as a treat

[glossy warren]

youd have to bring the tyrant around the arena. meathook points are meant to be a stationary source of getting into the air, and while flying demons do that, theyd probably be dead quickly as no point in leaving them alive just to use them as grapple points

[vital ravine]

Never realised it

[slow sigil]

game isn't really supported for 2p coop, atleast not with the slayer abilities and the falter system
you can just continually stun an entire arena with ease

[vital ravine]

You could use gargoyles

[pseudo mirage]

noice 👌

[vital ravine]

A coop mode for doom eternal just wouldn’t work as no matter the difficulty the two of you can destroy every single demon in 2 seconds flat

[eternal nebula]

It seems like everyone plays on nightmare except me

[slow sigil]

you can get there if you want eventually
aslong as you aren't suffering a disability ofc

[glossy warren]

gargoyle behavior makes them jump into the air to fire if youre a certain distance away so you would have to run away to get away which makes no sense

[pseudo mirage]

so what... play whatever difficulty you're comfortable with... if you need challenge, try it out

[eternal nebula]

Honestly i just want co op to be a fun side thing, unserious and just a heck load of fun

[slow sigil]

that's where battlemode is for

[eternal nebula]

True

[glossy warren]

you could make the argument that you have to run to meathook points too but you're not actively running away from them to make them 'meathookable' or whatever

[eternal nebula]

But think it could still be fun in story mode, even if just the novelty of it. Also slayer vs slayer for battle mode when (it’s not happening)

[glossy warren]

as a side note I always thought gargoyles were firing green fire at you from their claws or smth but apparently its spit

[red oar]

heyo is there a give all weapons runes suit points command?

[glossy warren]

one of the cheat codes does that, it's IDKFA

[fair mirage]

so how do i fight dark lord

i didnt read no tutorial

[glossy warren]

hes just a big marauder

[slow sigil]

he's jsut a marauder but a bit more RNG and won't run after you if you're too far away

[eternal nebula]

Yeah i just find it impressive ngl, i am trying my best to work up to it but even if i never get there I’m proud of myself for learning keybinds/weapon swapping

[red oar]

but is there a way to do it upon opening a master level on new save slot and that kind of thing?

[glossy warren]

I dont know if cheat codes work on master levels but if they do you priobably have to beat them on that save slot first

[pseudo mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYNYSG-a2Yk like this 😄

I got inspired by this psychopath... I have no idea how he does it... I'm nowhere this good but I finished TAG 2 on ultra nightmare

[eternal nebula]

It’s crazy impressive

[glossy warren]

he has custom keybinds and is good at pretty much everything he plays

[fair mirage]

he doesnt go green thing for like a minute, hits me with melee and gkes back to full

[pseudo mirage]

yeah..

he has custom inverted controller... but the game is not modded in any way 🙂

[slow sigil]

watching for the first 1:30... it's not that crazily impressive

[fair mirage]

holy this will be annoying

[slow sigil]

use chaingun shield if you think you can't dodge something

[glossy warren]

be a certain distance, watch gameplay of it - too far = grenades or shoulder cannon and too close = beamed with sword

[pseudo mirage]

it was annoying when I didn't know how to do it first... but you just need to memorize few things

[slow sigil]

"dodge when attack"
"attack when open"

[eternal nebula]

Damn, i thought it was cause i always fumble the fight in the first few rounds

[inland wave]

Hello

Can you buy the doomicorn skin for Nintendo Switch?

[slow sigil]

probably but i'd be an incredibly waste of money, so keep that in mind

[paper pier]

The Fuc you tell me legendary sword that can kill a titan can’t kill a muradar

[fair mirage]

first phase down

[glossy warren]

normalize skins becoming either customizable by default or unlockable only by quests or challenges etc

[paper pier]

I am so mad now crucible cannot kill these turtles

[glossy warren]

once he's staggered you can use it

[slow sigil]

it can

[paper pier]

I guess I swapped too slow…

[left atlas]

Fuck it imma do ultra nightmare campaign

[azure oriole]

I hope you can survive

[paper pier]

No I can’t?

[glossy warren]

if you didnt practice for it dont be surprised if you die

[slow sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890909009526267935/1193594872481980576/image.png?ex=65ad48d9&is=659ad3d9&hm=5def7cce2098ca87cadbabe6f47e4ba006db77945e7b423a5d881309ad31aa8d&
i could swear it still did damage

[paper pier]

The sword bounce right off

[pseudo mirage]

I did it on PC but now I'm attempting it with a controller.... IT'S TOUGH 😄

[glossy warren]

not staggered sorry once hes in glory kill mode

[paper pier]

Bruh that’s….useless

[left atlas]

Doing it on my brand new ps5

[eternal nebula]

Good luck!!

[slow sigil]

but if you can open up a marauder it's easier to just shoot them then try to crucible

[fair mirage]

these minikns jjst gkt me to dke

[paper pier]

They give me an arena with a crucible pickup and only super heavy spawn is a muradar….

[fair mirage]

im going insane already

[pseudo mirage]

well good luck on that... I finished it on nightmare there.. but I just can't get over that horrendous input lag on consoles.. they use triple buffered Vsync and it's just too much for me to aim properly..

[slow sigil]

maybe more will spawn :)

[paper pier]

Any easy combo I can do? They soak so much damage with normal stagger and combos

[slow sigil]

an extremely easy combo is bal-ssg-bal
2 cycles them

[pseudo mirage]

but let me know how you do it..I need some advice too 😄

I said to myself that I will do all the combat encounters on UNM

[paper pier]

I will try that

[paper pier]

Nope, that’s the end of the encounter

[slow sigil]

assuming you actually try to hit your ssg pallets

[paper pier]

Wdym

[glad lark]

UNM fellas, be careful not to lose your sanity please

[hazy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-cacodemon-demon-cute-gif-7070685866677885551

[pseudo mirage]

too late for that

[fair mirage]

na

[pseudo mirage]

I hate the first 3 levels.. and Gladiator... fck the Gladiator

[slow sigil]

as in you're not trying to snipe with your ssg, and actually try to make all pallets hit

[fair mirage]

can he stop spawning the fast bog dudes

[slow sigil]

the what now

[glossy warren]

the hell summons?

[fair mirage]

the red deethrough dudes

[glossy warren]

microwave beam them or just attack them normally it does not matter

[paper pier]

So like dash closer to them?

[fair mirage]

that be jumping

[glossy warren]

those are just normal demons their behavior doesnt matter
they have little to no health just microwave beam them

[fair mirage]

his 3rd map is so annoying

[slow sigil]

be at a distance where all your pallets landd

[slow sigil]

they are literally all identical circles with just different graphics

[fair mirage]

the attacks

why tf does he heal back 1/3 of his hp even though he didnt touch me and instead i shot him

[slow sigil]

cause he's badly designed (and also cause just don't shoot him when he doesn't open up)

[pseudo mirage]

yeah that's a feature 😄 it's a punishment 😄

[eternal nebula]

Unfortunately yeah, as cool as i think the dark lord is the fight is so roughly designed

[slow sigil]

"roughly designed" is an understatement

[eternal nebula]

Fighting him feels being stuck rng simulator, I literally didn’t get one green flash at the proper distance for like 5 minutes one time

it was pain

It seemed like an hour honestly

[fair mirage]

might as well jjst make him heal all of the mf health

[slow sigil]

it feels like RNG cause it is rng

[eternal nebula]

i meant in the way of like, I’m stuck in a gambling machine. i am bad at wording things

[slow sigil]

doesn't take away from the fact that it is RNG

[fair mirage]

this is ho estly just load checkpoint sim for me

im so done

[eternal nebula]

I’ve gotten more consistent fights out of the dark lord but all of them feel like the have gone on too long due to the rng

that or I’m just bad 🤷

[fair mirage]

where is my sentinel armor

[slow sigil]

you can't be better at rng

[eternal nebula]

It’s just luck but my ability to fight the boss when he does flash green doesn’t really help things

[fair mirage]

im playing half flife i hate this game

[glossy warren]

haldf life my beloved

[pseudo mirage]

I also feel I got lucky on my UNM run...the whole time I was thinking he's gonna delete me there..because I was dying over and over again, before.. but it somehow worked out well

keep trying, you got this

[slow sigil]

davoth is one of the easier fights, if you're not killing davoth you likely can manage to just survive

[eternal nebula]

Jumping simulator (i find staying in the air helps me dodge things easier, but im not as good lol)

[pseudo mirage]

no one is good at first...

no one 🙂

[eternal nebula]

I just added that cause I’m no professional

[pseudo mirage]

don't worry about it.. I can tell you what helped me if you want

(I'm no 'professional' either :D)

[slow sigil]

For projectiles it absolutely helps, against davoth not so much generall

[eternal nebula]

I would appreciate it, as i climb the difficulty latter

[eternal nebula]

Damn

[paper pier]

I tend do forget about that

Can I crucible icon of sin armor

[slow sigil]

Why not try it out

[paper pier]

I got bounced off

Or yeeted 300 meters out of the map

[pseudo mirage]

in 2020 I started playing on Hurt me plenty and even then I was dying.. I hated the game and stopped playing it.. then I watched some very good players, like this one here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL9CQ7rPNMc and I started to emulate/copy them,.. in the best way I could.. I decided I will up the difficulty to ultra-violence.. then I went with nightmare (even when I wasn't good at it)... you will die a lot but the sooner you increase the difficulty, the sooner you will adapt to that play style

the best way is to learn which demon is deleted the most efficient way.. for example for mancubus it's lock on + ssg, or lock on + another rocket... for whiplash lock on... I charge my heat blast as often as I can so that I can use it between the slow weapons...then don't forget to use your meat hook and jumping (air control rune is a must, I also suggest equipment fiend, the third one can be the one that makes you fast after glory kill.. but that's up to you).. just watch the pro players like zero master, smvr and see how they delete demons... it would be a long story to explain what is the most efficient way.. you also need to be able to adapt to certain situations.. keep burning, ice bombing, glory killing to charge your blood punch.. and keep flying around in circles 😄

the game is designed to be frustrating and rewarding at the same time (Hugo Martin's words).. so don't be discouraged if you die a lot, it means it teaches you something

[eternal nebula]

I’ve started emulating the weapons a bit but my movement is what need work. I think next time i play i will put it in UV and adapt like you said

[pseudo mirage]

yeah sounds good!

PB+ballista combo deals massive damage

[eternal nebula]

Pb?

[pseudo mirage]

try sniping weak points with both of them

precision bolt

that thing on your heavy cannon

[eternal nebula]

OOOOOOH yeah i use that a lot

I forgot for a moment what pb was lol

[pseudo mirage]

no worries:)

[eternal nebula]

I appreciate the tips :)

Anyways does anyone else find the ending of tag 2 kinda bittersweet or even sad? Or am i just weird?

[pseudo mirage]

hmm, yeah it was kinda serious

[eternal nebula]

It’s the fact that doomguy did all that to save the universe and he can’t even enjoy the world he saved :(

[fair mirage]

literally after doom even half life is making me mad

[eternal nebula]

Damn

[eternal nebula]

The story is just a really big fixation for me, i am full of autism

[slow sigil]

Oh poor fellow, you dont want to get in too deep in the doom story. It'll only bring with it dissapointment

[fair mirage]

bunny died time to kill every demon

[eternal nebula]

It’s too late, i have seen everything, played every mainline game

I printed out every codex entry and made a timeline it’s over for me

[rugged field]

can we discuss bugs here?

[fair mirage]

na

[eternal nebula]

I am so committed to seeing where they take this story, flaws and all

and honestly the story enhances the gameplay for me

[fair mirage]

why does the dark lord even need to heal if he is the dark lord

[slow sigil]

Why do you need to heal if you are the doomslayer

[left atlas]

I failed

[fair mirage]

type shi

[slow sigil]

What

[eternal nebula]

The answer is gameplay

Doom would be a boring game if the gameplay was exactly like the lore

[fair mirage]

noo it would be fun having infinite speed or whatever he has

[eternal nebula]

I mean it would be fun at first but you wouldn’t have that gameplay loop

[fair mirage]

because id still find something to get mad at

[eternal nebula]

Fair enough ig

[slow sigil]

Which he doesn't posses

[fair mirage]

thats why i said or whatever he has

[slow sigil]

He has the speed you see ingame

[eternal nebula]

From codexes “fierce speed and power to match his will.” 🤷
whatever that means

Fun game design over lore

[slow sigil]

Was it a codex entry with unreliable narrator?

[random vault]

the gameplay is the lore

[eternal nebula]

Yeah but not exactly cause the armor in 2016 is stated to withstand massive amounts of damage without even scratching, and obviously you can get hurt in game

[random vault]

fierce isnt infinite? thats not even close?

[random vault]

armor strength doesnt mean human invincibility

[slow sigil]

Iirc it was just that UAC limited experiments on mars couldn't stop it

[eternal nebula]

Lemme double check, it’s from the history of the sentinels so idk?

[random vault]

if you put on armor and i shoot you with a canon ball the armor might be fine but your body will rupture because thats how shockwaves work

[slow sigil]

And your armour can be unbreakable, but the person inside can surely not me

[eternal nebula]

I was just saying that it doesn’t say infinite speed, idk what they meant

[random vault]

human bodys are fragile and squishy, armor diminishes damage and preferably spreads it out

not completely remove it

[eternal nebula]

Yeah

[slow sigil]

It was written by the sentinels so take it with a grain of salt

[eternal nebula]

Yeah that’s what i thought

[slow sigil]

It's a huge misconception in the doom community that doomguy/slayer is incredibly more stronger and amazing that we can see ingame

Whilst infact he's basically just "the best player" playing on nightmare. Give or take a lil bit

[random vault]

slayer lore scales to boundless speed and cosmic strength and he could solo goku!!!!!

[eternal nebula]

Ig

I always thought he was a bit stronger than we see in game

[slow sigil]

Not a lot

[eternal nebula]

And in 2016 the testaments say he received his armor from the wretch, but he did insane things in hell before that testament number

Like he received it after? Idk tho

It could just be how they numbered it

[slow sigil]

Unreliable narrators and he had sentinel armour anyways

[eternal nebula]

How is every narrator unreliable

[slow sigil]

Doesn' have to be, but you certainly have to take in that chance

[eternal nebula]

Not mad just voicing confusion lol

[slow sigil]

Tag2 introduced us to unreliable narrators, now for everything that doesn't make a lot of sense you can just apply that

[eternal nebula]

Oh you mean the history of the heaven and hell

[slow sigil]

It does overall help the lore knowing that not everything is factual

[eternal nebula]

The book of seraphs (urdak) kinda just re wrote the beginning

I say kinda cause they talk about pre hell a bit too

but the way doom guy was able to scare hell enough have him carved into the helix stone seems pretty telling to his amount of power

[slow sigil]

Yeah, which is about that if ingame

[eternal nebula]

the story is consistent with game but all im saying is even on nightmare doomguy probably would take that much damage 🤷 still damage just not to that degree since he is infused with the power of dark lord 🤷🤷🤷 (not an expert obviously)

I mean they dropped an entire hell temple on him pre 2016 and it was just enough to get him sealed 🤷

(Slayer’s testament VII)

Anyways i love how the final battle codex entire refers to the doom slayer as “dark lord’s monster” (actual quote is “The dark lord had forged bearer of his vengeance through those that had betrayed him - it was the ultimate revenge. His monster would now come for him, and he would have to destroy that which gave him retribution against the maykrs.”)

Sorry for so long message but it’s really cool

[slow sigil]

Temples also typically aren't charged with hell energy that lilely enhances the demons, and it likely did brain damage as typically if someone is out for longer then a small time, they're damaged

[eternal nebula]

magic spells?

I mean you’re right

But they said they added spells to coffin too

[slow sigil]

To contain

[eternal nebula]

Could it be possible that it also put him to sleep/lengthen his sleep for a while

[slow sigil]

That was the primary goal

[eternal nebula]

Alright

[paper pier]

So if Maykr cannot leave Urdak, how is her presence in meeting with bell priest in mission 1?

[eternal nebula]

only maykr drones can’t leave urdak

[paper pier]

Oh I see….
also does it imply that drones can grow?

[slow sigil]

Also maybe a projection

[eternal nebula]

Probably

[cyan frigate]

hey gamers, how are we doin hows eternal treating us? 👍😎

[eternal nebula]

Vega says that “the khan maykr is present at the gathering but when outside her domain, she is by all accounts, invincible.” And we see a projection later in the game and it’s yellow

🤷

[slow sigil]

Sentinel peojecrion yeah

They figured out immortality, certainly they know better ways of talking then a yellowed line rendering

[eternal nebula]

She’s gotta actually be there, the projections are smaller than she was at the end of hell on earth

And we see that other makyr in sentinel prime

It would make sense as she would be talking the priests

And we see her in the sentinel prime flash back also

🤷

[slow sigil]

"She has to, states points which don't require her to be physically there"

[eternal nebula]

i mean it makes sense to me is what i meant, like i said i suck at wording things

[slow sigil]

It may make sense, but it isn't absolute

[eternal nebula]

I can’t open the game to look at the drone entry rn but i think it said something about them being immature

[slow sigil]

Yeah i think something like that idk either anymore

[eternal nebula]

I have to look now i wanna know

Okay this is straight from the game:
“Drones never leave Urdak, their bodies not yet mature enough to avoid harm while crossing dimensions.”

I forgot that’s why they can’t leave

but that means khan can be there, not that it matters if she is or isn’t

Neat

Lore is cool

Sorry if i was being rude I literally just wanted to figure stuff out that’s like my favorite thing to do with the lore

Another neat thing i find cool is the reason for the drones being in immora

It’s a spoiler tho so I’ll cover it for those who haven’t played/don’t wanna be spoiled

||since the dark lord was the actual creator he made the drones so ofc they could be in immora, but that’s a nice subtle hint as well for those who follow the story||

I’m just a big lore fan for this series

i mean inconsistencies/unreliable narrators aside the story is just plain cool 🤷 even if it’s not all true, it’s all cool, and that’s what i enjoy

I repeat myself a lot sorry

[fading monolith]

"The longer the icon of sin is on earth, the stronger he will-" Samuel Hayden has fallen!

and he can't get up

[slow sigil]

the demons corrupted them anwyways so i imagine they can now be "sturdy" enough to leave

[eternal nebula]

Good point

[cunning trellis]

I have a fire arm

[paper pier]

Why does Vega says am I the father after being inserted into the teleported

Also does it mean he got left behind in urdark

[slow sigil]

continue with the story

[meager swallow]

vega is daddy

i mean-

[slow sigil]

which one?

oh probs cause of the gameplay clips

why do you care about finding out?

you can like something and still suck

i don't see how you consider them mutually exclusive as they have nothing to do with eachother

[steep wind]

any tips to beat the dread knights before getting the chaingun?

[paper pier]

You mean ancient gods?

Alright then

[slow sigil]

yup

[paper pier]

Freeze bomb

[slow sigil]

same as after getting the chaingun: use PB swaps whilst dodging

[paper pier]

Freeze bomb is the answer to probably everything from archvile to revenant

[meager swallow]

tag is so good ngl

[safe kindle]

[steep wind]

don't have it either, im on the first slayer gate

[steep wind]

what's a pb swap?

[slow sigil]

swapping with pb to bal, ssg, rocket, or sometimes sticky

[steep wind]

rn i only have the shotgun, rifle and plasma gun

[slow sigil]

cna still punchswap and spam sticky and tripple chainsaw them

[leaden quail]

which glory kill is this emoji from

[unreal echo]

no clue

[empty basin]

zombie upper glory kill from back

[leaden quail]

o

[dreamy walrus]

Seeing as u can just buy the preorder pack with the revenant doot skin and u don’t have to preorder it, can u do the same with the deluxe edition and get the fire slayer skin without buying the deluxe Ed

[slow sigil]

No

[oak star]

can i transfer my skins,podiums.etc i made on my ps4 to my steam?

[slow sigil]

On pc you can use a mod to unlock it though

[white hornet]

yes mods

[slow sigil]

(Hey 2 for one answer)

[dapper tangle]

I'm on xbox and I need help with something. I can't bind pause and the dossier. I've tried reinstalling the game several times and it won't work. It only does this on custom layout

If I can get any help with this I'd love it

[stiff pelican]

If this only happens during custom layout try to use a different layout

I can’t help you to much since I’m on ps4

[vale pebble]

I didn't mess with those binds much but I don't think you can change the pause and dossier binds on the Xbox controller

[stiff pelican]

I just beated the doom eternal campaign and I didn’t get the icon of sin toy

How am I supposed to get it ?

[vale pebble]

I think it's from beating the boss but it also might be from a 100% completion idk

I didn't care much for toys tbh so I can't help much

[stiff pelican]

Alr

Do I have to 100% the whole game or the toy collection?

[vale pebble]

You could search it and get your answers

cuz I'm not sure

[stiff pelican]

Turns out you need to get all the other toys

[uncut ridge]

Is the spicy demons server still around?

[vale pebble]

I'm not in it but the channel and invite still exist
#battlemode message

[uncut ridge]

thank you!

[midnight bolt]

How do I fix entity offsets?

[azure oriole]

yo everyone

so recently i've been getting bored with Eternal. Tried playing the master levels and beated 2 in NM, but i dont feel like im having fun anymore. So, i might need a couple of new tech tricks to make me keep playing. Anyone got any techs?

(I learned ultrakill tech, skylar rl tech, ballista boosting, and quickswitching.)
(P.S im on controller)

[young mango]

BATS with weapon wheel is possible but it’d be very inconvenient to chain, but is justifiable for something like transferring it to a single weapon use like ballista against pain elementals

You could also learn double shot, i bet you’d like that

[slow sigil]

A single or even half a dozen new techniques will maybe not freshen up the game enough, and there is no shame in being bored of the game

[azure oriole]

sheesh man ill try to learn those tricks, thx for the tech!

[empty basin]

By controller do you also mean you play on console? Because to be honest I don't really know any other way to "fresh up" the game other than playing community level mods, which unfortunately are PC only

[azure oriole]

yep i play on console. I dont got mods here

[empty basin]

I also don't recommend trying to force yourself to keep playing the game honestly

Other than just being bored at the game, the worst thing that could happen is if you turn to hate the game that you used to love

[azure oriole]

well im a big fan of fps shooters + doom is probably the only game i can fresh up my mind with.

[azure oriole]

oh nah i love the game, its just that it feels boring to do everything with the same techs, the same tricks and movements. Doom 16 is just too slow for me.

[fallen heart]

time to start speedrunning

[little spire]

Any tips and tricks on how to beat this game on ultra nightmare?

[slow sigil]

It's identical to nightmare

Except your dead punishes more but that's already what you avoid

[little spire]

That's the biggest problem

I died like 6 times on nightmare

[vale pebble]

Keep practicing

Uh Chaingun shield is your best friend

[jolly kernel]

do enemies take more damage than they normally do if they are frozen?

[vale pebble]

I think so

[little spire]

Really?

I never used chaingun actually

I just use double barrel shotgun and ballista

[vale pebble]

Use other combos

That's probably why you die a lot
No ammo
More chainsaw useage

[fallen heart]

with the 5 point suit upgrade on ice bomb yes

[slow sigil]

Well you wont use it as a weapom

[long sapphire]

People please I need a game like Doom Eternal
Doom Eternal kinda ruined gaming for me because I haven't been able to find a game as intense ever since I played it for the first time

Anytime someone asks the question they get recommended games like Doom 2016 or Ultrakill, which are great games but not really what I'm looking for

Is there any game out there that has the same intensity and depth as Doom Eternal, where each tool fits into the "combat puzzle"?

I don't care about the setting, or even the type of game that it is, hell it could be a 2D shoot em up I wouldn't care, I just want to feel something again

[vale pebble]

Ultrakill is the only game ik that is like doom eternal

[long sapphire]

There is no way no game other than Ultrakill has been inspired by Doom Eternal combat in 3 years right?

[vale pebble]

Have you finished all of DE actually?

[long sapphire]

Ultrakill isn't even that close to DE imo, it's more similar to Doom 2016

[long sapphire]

Yup

[vale pebble]

So like UN, master levels, milestones and all??

[vale pebble]

Idk games take a while to make

Especially good games

[long sapphire]

That's fair enough, but even an indie prototype with a solid base would do the trick for me

[long sapphire]

Still working on some of that stuff

[vale pebble]

Well then do that first lol

Well don't if you are feeling burnt out

[little spire]

It takes allot of ammo but I always leave the weak zombies alone so I can later chainsaw them

[empty basin]

I mean... Ultrakill has been in development for 5 years? I don't think calling Doom Eternal as its "inspiration" really does it justice lol

[little spire]

Also I always have a fuel left

[vale pebble]

Zombies do respawn so it's fine

[long sapphire]

I just want to get a similar experience without it being exactly the same game I've been playing for 3 years

[vale pebble]

Use barrels for ammo too

[little spire]

Probably luck because I use saw a lot

[long sapphire]

No you're right Ultrakill was definitely more inspired by Quake

[little spire]

Fr? didn't know

[empty basin]

I think what you are looking for is the experience of a good fast-paced FPS and the rush that came from it, rather than "something like Doom Eternal"

[vale pebble]

The more you know ig

[long sapphire]

I don't even think I'm looking for an FPS
More something that gives the same adrenaline rush as Doom Eternal

[empty basin]

From what you say, it seems that you went into Ultrakill expecting it to be a resource-management game like DE

[little spire]

I tried double barrel shotgun with precision scope but that just didn't work

[empty basin]

Other than that, the other highly-rated boomer shooters I can think of are Dusk, Turbo Overkill, Prodeus, etc. Though I haven't played these 3 yet

[vale pebble]

Try PB rocket ballista

[little spire]

I can only change between 2 weapons

[vale pebble]

no?

[long sapphire]

Nah I didn't, only mentioned Ultrakill as an example of games that are good, but not what I'm searching for right now
Because I knew people would mention it

[vale pebble]

You can do as much as you'd like...

[little spire]

When I click r1 I can only between 2

[vale pebble]

I'm on controller too

I combo 3 weapons

[long sapphire]

Closest I've seen to DE so far is a roguelike called Deadlink, super underrated you guys should check it out

[little spire]

Maybe something in options

[vale pebble]

Sometimes 4

[empty basin]

Hmm I played Hades after my old laptop couldn't handle DE anymore, and even though I never played a roguelike before, I really enjoyed it and sunk around 200 hours

[little spire]

Actually I never opened settings in eternal

[vale pebble]

Use the wheel for swapping

[empty basin]

oh I suppose we got our mind in a common genre

[little spire]

That's gonna be hard

[vale pebble]

Change the weapon wheel open delay setting to the lowest and just practice how to swap fast

[little spire]

Alr

Also does difficulty matter when you want to get the Phobos skin?

[vale pebble]

I forgot how to get it

[empty basin]

nah it doesn't matter

[long sapphire]

I like Hades a lot, although I actually like the combat of Dead Cells more, if you've played it

[little spire]

Complete the Additional lives mode with more than 10 of them

[empty basin]

you just have to complete the base campaign in extra lives mode with 10 spare extra lives

[little spire]

Thank God

I wanted to play on nightmare but thought it would be too hard

[empty basin]

Unfortunately Dead Cells wasn't really clicking to me so I had to refund it 🥴

I bought DMC5 with the refund money, but then it immediately hit my old laptop with 12 FPS rendering so I had to refund that too

At the end I bought Cult of the Lamb, which thankfully is playable, albeit having too long of a session would forcefully shut down my laptop

[little spire]

Dmc5 is awesome

[empty basin]

yeah maybe I can play it sometime now that I have a new PC

[little spire]

The camera placement isn't that great tho

[little spire]

I played metal gear rising on a free laptop from government 💀

[vale pebble]

Was it a school laptop??

[little spire]

No in my country if someone from your family worked in one place they gave you free laptops

[vale pebble]

Interesting

[long sapphire]

Damn, that old pc must have been really bad
Cult of the lamb slams though

[little spire]

We don't have school laptops

Anyways how many hours do you guys have in doom eternal?

I have 34

[empty basin]

352 ✌️

[little spire]

That's allot

Won't blame you tho because this game is awesome

[empty basin]

I've been trying out and playing Master Level mods nowadays

[little spire]

Like these were you can get golden pump?

[empty basin]

I've completed like.. 28 ML mods I think?

[empty basin]

golden pump?

[little spire]

Yk the golden shotgun skin

[empty basin]

oh that's the official Super Gore Nest Master Level