doom-eternal

[empty basin]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAwkDjVcJePjpk91j4X-sZozhfetnGFF2
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAwkDjVcJePhau6C4xNcJkHGqt9S_pu19
I listen to SPC HC's mixes and they are god-tier

[vital ravine]

Biggest flex I have is that despite having decently long hair that constantly gets in my eyes I can still headbang and play doom eternal

At the same time

Wow my life is miserable lmao

[lucid siren]

I love the classic Doom OST.

I like the Doom 3 intro too.

The Doom 2016 stuff, i can take or leave most of it.

Eternal too.

[vital ravine]

I like basically all of them but if I had to rank them it would go

[random fern]

hi

[vital ravine]

Doom eternal, doom 2016, doom 64 doom 1 and 2, then doom 3

I haven’t listened to the doom 3. Ost so it goes on the bottom

[lucid siren]

You could shave it into a mohawk and stick it up with soap.

[vital ravine]

I think the horror element goes a lot better for the 2d doom games

[vital ravine]

I’m growing it out rn so no thanks

Doom 1 and 2 are good but I’m not gonna let nostalgia take me over on this one cuz with my subjective opinion I don’t really like classic doom songs

[lucid siren]

I'm not really a huge fan of the newer soundtracks, my preference runs literally in chronological order with Doom 1 at the top and Doom Eternal at the bottom for music preference l.

[vital ravine]

Wow we almost the exact opposite then

The whole reason I got into doom 64 was because the soundtrack sounded really interested for being in a doom game

[lucid siren]

It works well for ripping and tearing, but it's not something that I'd listen to casually.

Doom 64 musics OK but I had a late start on Doom 64.

[vital ravine]

I am literally listening to Okilly Dokilly rn lmao

[lucid siren]

Isn't that a Ned Flanders thing?

[vital ravine]

Yep metal band that is based entirely around ned flanders

Can you tell autocorrect likes to fuck me over

[lucid siren]

I'm listening to Alestorm.

[vital ravine]

Can’t name the accent on that but it’s very familiar

I know it’s something close to home but I don’t remember what it is

[vital ravine]

I prefer heavier but it’s good

[lucid siren]

Scottish

[burnt wave]

LOL

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/bitcoin-ligthning-satsback-rain-gif-26527820

how it feels when you headshot a maykr drone:

[jolly igloo]

finally played doom 2016 at 140 frames with a mouse and keyboard

my favourite game of all time just got even better!

[empty plover]

It breaks my heart when my pc can barely handle doom at 50 FPS @ low resolution:/:/

[leaden wing]

Hi

[vital ravine]

Hi

[valid birch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/660466396135948319/1059175727586627655/ezgif-2-3033021e91.gif

[covert oar]

alr thanks

[astral quest]

doom

[pure iris]

Is ancient gods 2 easier than 1? Didnt have a fun time with some encounters in 1 and i thought about playing ultra violence in ag2, but Google says its easier. Should i just go with nightmare again?

[slow sigil]

You can just turn down the difficulty ingame

[azure oriole]

What do I do after campaign

[pure iris]

-get all collectibles
-learn quickswapping if you havent already
-learn to kill marauders with fballista if you havent already
-play on nightmare if you havent already
-play the dlcs
-play the master lvls
-dont play ultra nightmare(dont.)

[pure iris]

Wait thats possible?

Thought the difficulty you choose at the beginning is final for the safefile lol

[slow sigil]

So not not play UN?

[pure iris]

No not not not

[slow sigil]

In options you can change it whenever

[pure iris]

(Or not for short)

[slow sigil]

"No not not not", or "no, not not not"

[pure iris]

[azure oriole]

Alr i'll do the collectible one quickswapping master lvls but not the dlc or ultra nightmare I already know how to kill marauder

So thanks

[azure oriole]

[pure iris]

The collectibles should keep you busy for a while
You probably dont know how to kill a marauder properly if you also dont know how to quickswap, how long does it take you on average?
Btw save the master lvls for last because i remember the jump in difficulty being pretty big

[azure oriole]

The arc complex master level was easy for me

[pure iris]

Ive only tried supergorenest and i think i stopped playing after i got to a dark section with a marauder lmao

https://youtu.be/7rQK9IXVGMQ?si=cm01rYsKOA-yv6Ys
Here if you want to see a somewhat quick marauder kill, i sadly messed up the fballista(footballista) i literally just shot his foot instead of the ground lol
I think youre supposed to shoot the ground with the ballista, so the shockwave of it stuns the marauder again(he usually just blocks it if you shoot directly at him like i did guess i was lucky)

[azure oriole]

I have noticed blood punch isn't effective

[vale pebble]

Why would you blood punch a Marauder

[pure iris]

Throwing hands is fun

I usually save my blood punch for other super heavy demons like the doomhunter(you can one-punch the glider once you deactivate the shield)or for cybermancubi(the armor can be one-punched too)

HELLPPPPP I JUST GOT THE ||SENTINEL HAMMER||(ancient gods 2 spoilers) ||AND I DONT HAVE A FREE KEYBIND FOR IT||

[random vault]

make one

[azure oriole]

Because i have muscle memory and i panic

[pure iris]

Realized that i have a keybind for swapping weapon mods(which i never do) so i put it on that one
Now i have a new problem tho because ||stone imps|| apparently require you to use a combat shotgun mod which i dont like

[azure oriole]

Yeah i just got to that part i know what u mean

That's scary

[pure iris]

I might try the master lvls again after finishing the dlcs

[azure oriole]

What mod?

[pure iris]

The full Auto mod

[azure oriole]

No one likes that

[pure iris]

I always use sticky bombs so killing ||stone imps|| requires me to switch

[slow sigil]

use hammer

[pure iris]

Im doing that already but farming glory kills to Charge the Hammer just to kill 3 Stone imps doesnt feel Like a Solution

[slow sigil]

you don't "farm" glorykills you just do them with normal gameplay

an arena filled with just stimps and 1 or 2 other demons is barely a real fight anywways

[pure iris]

I know that you dont Farm glory kills but thats exactly the scenario im referring too

The Stone imps Kinda just exist and get a Bit annoying towards the end

[slow sigil]

yeah they're bad design

[azure oriole]

Man im tryna do super gore nest master level and I was tryna do this fight i kept dying i got over it just to get a bit forvard and get fucking one shotted by a cacodemon chomping on me when im cornered and can't move

Lovely

[pure iris]

At least getting cornered doesnt happen as often as in doom 2016

I only played that one for like 30 hours(just finished my first playthrough a couple of days ago) and i got stuck between demons a lot

[young mango]

TAG2 is like almost 3 years old you don’t have to avoid spoiling it

[pure iris]

Emperoni hasnt played it tho didnt want to ruin it for them

[quasi crown]

Anyone fancy helping with the mp achievements? On xbox

[azure oriole]

What is tag2?

[vale pebble]

The ancient gods part 2

💀

[azure oriole]

K

[pure iris]

Just play a couple of matches and maybe try dm-ing the players you encounter

I feel like nobody voluntarily plays battlemode except for achievement hunters, i met one in a match and we helped each other to get the 200 kills and all that

[quasi crown]

@pure iris I've tried asking some in game but didn't get any responses

[vale pebble]

Try finding a group on the Xbox groups page

Where ppl set up parties and play yk

[quasi crown]

@vale pebble gd point

[vale pebble]

Or you could also make your own

Any works really

[slow sigil]

you can also just.... not do the achievments

you literally just... not waste your time doing basically nothing?

[vale pebble]

Achievement hunters are dedicated

[slow sigil]

not dedicated enough to actually achieve them it seems

at best you're grinding to get it
at worst you just get someone to give it to you

[dense geode]

Hey guys. So im trying to get good (I’m stuck on the SGN master level) and am wondering how to quick swap more effectively? Like I feel I’m kinda maybe doing basic combos and spamming it mindlessly.

[quasi crown]

Can't do everything by yourself in life, regardless of what it is. I'm just your everyday person who likes to get achievements. Whether that be with like minded people who want the same thing or not

[slow sigil]

why not just queue up for BM and put focus on the achievments, that way you actually try to get them

or queue with people and they can play normally whilst you play semi-normally but focusing on the achievments aswel

that way you're actually achieving them and actually playing the game aswel

[slow sigil]

hold fire whilst swapping to anything but PB, hold aim whilst going to PB
that way you shoot/scope at the first possible moment

[quasi crown]

I am? I am genuinely just playing BM rn. I don't have anyone helping me. But I also don't have my whole life to spend sitting around trying to get every tiny thing done for 1 game ny myself 🫤 would be impossible for an average gamer. I'm not the most skilled and some things just should be optional on whether they are on a list or not. 🫤

[slow sigil]

it's literally not true that it will take "lifetime" or any long time to do the BM achievments, nor that they take an incredible amount of skill

some things just should be optional on whether they are on a list or not.
the achievments are literally optional wtf do you mean????

[young mango]

If you want the bloodbath achievement, boot into battlemode as the slayer and kill one of them, wait for them to respawn, kill the other one, wait for the other to respawn, rinse and repeat

Kind of a scummy way to do it but it’s better than begging for achievements

I managed to get 100 out of my 200 bloodbath kills like that

[azure oriole]

use destroyer blade

[pure iris]

Are you talking about the crucible?

[young mango]

No the destroyer blade mod for the ballista

[pure iris]

Ohhh the non-arbalest mod

[slow sigil]

yeah, the good mod

[pure iris]

Can that thing actually destroy stone imps?

[azure oriole]

one taps them

[slow sigil]

everything can

[pure iris]

I thought nothing can lmao i trusted the tutorial too much

[slow sigil]

stimps only have increased HP with a weakness

[azure oriole]

hell you can even use chainsaw to kill them

[pure iris]

[azure oriole]

they are a regular light demons just with damage modifiers against all weapons

[slow sigil]

chainsaw makes sense tbf with the explenation

[pure iris]

My precious 2 minutes that i spent in mission 2 on charging my hammer are gone forever

[pure iris]

How is it better than arbalest? Im not saying that it isnt, but the last time i used it was in my first playthrough which was almost 2 years ago so i dont really know what it does💀

[vale pebble]

It does hella damage

[slow sigil]

The extreme burst damage

Excellent starter, or when you have a gap in combat

[young mango]

2400 damage in one shot with a massive hitbox, a point blank ssg only does 1600, that’s 1.5x more damage without the consequence of damage fall off

Also like bloodshot mentioned once, the more enemies you catch in it’s radius the more the ammo efficiency goes through the roof, also double shot exists meaning you can deal 4800 damage in a single burst, a tyrant is 10000 health

[young mango]

Because of its absolutely massive hitbox you could literally hit the enemy limits worth of hellknights with it while they’re all icebombed and deal the equivalent of 96000 damage with 50 cell ammo, that’s of course a hyper exaggerated situation but the point is it’s practically busted

[azure oriole]

also you want the dblade as a starter, you charge it before an encounter is about to happen or while hopping around to reposition

very fun tool to use even without mentioning the tech behind it

[slow sigil]

Dblade is great even without doubling it

[azure oriole]

yeah

[pure iris]

@young mango thank you for your in depth Analysis of shiny red wave🛐

[pure iris]

How do you double it?

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/tkmzij-F858?si=AAk__ynnHibZ5LAF

[strange gale]

double it and give it to the next person 😀

[pure iris]

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/zWZEwBLqZAw?si=pxirUBaEdojrStst

did a combo that deals 9530 damage towards a tyrant, they stagger at 9500 damage, this combo is insane

only 31 damage away from not staggering him lol

This combo was painfully awkward to execute because you need to hold down right click to do double shot but you also need to begin the FSE-less SLOB with right click so it’s not exactly seemless

[azure oriole]

Bro i was doing super gore nest master level

And when i put the blue gore key in the thing the whole game just crashed

Probably didn't even save my progress

[small helm]

game saves automatically at checkpoints so at worst you'll have to start from last checkpoint

[azure oriole]

But it was a master level

I don't think those save when the game crashes and closes

Lemme see

DAMN IT

I HAVE TO RESTART THE WHOLE MASTER LEVEL

[small helm]

oh

i just play this game on pc and switch and never encountered similar issues

[azure oriole]

Yh first time for me too

I mean I was just gonna finish the level and it instantly crashes

I couldnt believe what just happened

[cobalt tree]

okay

some one can help ,i can run days gone at 120 fps but doom eternal is lagging like hell

why

I was able to play this game normally before

what happened

[lucid siren]

Never done that one but I was having fun watching Hugo's old stream of that master level two days ago.

Okay so question, what do you guys miss from previous Doom games that didn't appear in Eternal?

[azure oriole]

I started with doom eternal

[empty basin]

Berserk being instant-death knock-out punch

It's much more satisfying as a powerup than Eternal's animations, imo

The Berserk animations should've been integrated as normal Glory Kills instead

Thankfully there's the Glory Kill Overhaul mod for that

[pure iris]

Am i the only person who got disappointed by the last boss in ancient gods 2?

Got it on my first try despite playing on nightmare but the fight took 22 long ass minutes

It felt like an eternal stalemate lmao

[lucid siren]

I started with the original classic shareware, but the only thing I miss from the old school stuff was Doom Guys damage face in the HUD, which was an id staple back in the days. I miss the robot drones from Doom 3, as well as the PDAs. From Doom 2016 I miss the Summoner with its speed and swift sleekness. I'd love to have seen a buffed, empowered, possessed version, even a spectral version. I also miss the choral sound effect from 2016 that you used to hear after clearing an arena.

[lucid siren]

I probably took about half a dozen tries. I was disappointed that he didn't turn into a monster demon afterwards though, however I'd like to see the Slayer perhaps take the tech from Davoths armour rig and make it his own for his next outing.

I also miss Team Death match from 2016, which was another id staple, since they invented the term. I'd also have liked some opportunities to telefrag heavies too.

[young mango]

Everybody was disappointed

[lucid siren]

The last boss in TAG1 was far more grandiose to be honest.

[flint flame]

It’s a common sentiment

[pure iris]

Wait thats davoth?

I read every piece of lore i could find and came to the Conclusion that its supposed to be davoth, but its actually god, because of the short dialogue vega and the boss had

Did i misunderstand anything?

[flint flame]

Yes, you misunderstood everything

Davoth was the creator. Vega just took his spot and called himself the father. The true father is Davoth as he was the “first” being

Out of revenge, Davoth became evil and jekkad became hell

So the twist for doom is that the devil and god are one in the same

[pure iris]

Ohhhh i thought god was replaced by davoth(now vega/god) who told everyone that god is davoth, thus making god evil because he got imprisoned in hell by his own "son"

[flint flame]

Tag2 basically says tag1 codexes are wrong

Father Vega gaslit everyone into thinking he’s the original

[pure iris]

Wasnt part of what i said in tag2 codexes too?

[flint flame]

No

Vega and Davoth did fight and Davoth lost and got sealed. The fight and outcome were the same

[empty basin]

you got it backwards, The Father didn't get replaced by Davoth, Davoth got replaced by The Father

[pure iris]

I hate how both statements are basically what i understood💀

[flint flame]

Davoth isn’t a title, it’s just the dude’s name

[empty basin]

yeah

[pure iris]

Yeah ik but i thought its the one who was originally the "devil" or subordinate of god

Turns out davoth was originally god and vega(his subordinate)because the codexes lied, correct?

[lucid siren]

I mean Davoth isn't necessarily the Most High, there are supposedly beings above and beyond that level too.

[stone tundra]

Is doom eternal easier on computer

[young mango]

yes

[stone tundra]

Oh

I should’ve known that before I 100% campaign mode

[young mango]

I mean console players can become just as good as pc players but it’s a lot harder to do so

[pure iris]

I play on console and i would argue that we have a handicap because of the limited keybinds

I only have keybinds for 3 of my weapons(ssg ballista and rocket launcher) and still had trouble to find a button for the sentinel hammer

[flint flame]

You can change your button bindings

[pure iris]

Sure i can but i cant add more buttons to my controller

[lost mulch]

expanded controllers exist

[azure forum]

yeah playing on console makes the game unplayable!

[novel token]

play Battlemode, there is no ice grenade nor crucible/hammer, so you have 2 more free buttons, EZ

[flat drift]

heyyy people, im facing an issue with game saves

whenever i play the game it says there was an issue with saving the game

and whenever i quit it starts again

[young mango]

Was playing mars core master level and got to the end with all the cyber mancubi and got soft locked because there was no fodder to chainsaw with enemies that have 6000 health, great game design ID software

[south oriole]

Try to ice bomb + blood punch + SSG for combo for those guys. I know there are multiple but that can help save ammo while you look for the one zombie on the map hanging out in the sewers

[young mango]

Yes but there wasn’t a zombie

I looked for like 10 minutes straight

I shouldn’t have to go into an encounter forcing myself to be as ammo conserving as possible in preparation for me not having anything to chainsaw

For a game that supposedly doesn’t force you into a specific playstyle, having to do one specific combo 9 times in a row because no fodder is kinda lame

[south oriole]

There are multiple combos for them, especially when there are multiple. Just remember you are on a master level and the point being is it is a huge challenge. Were you on UN?

[grizzled mountain]

henlo

[young mango]

Yes I was on UN

Calling it a challenge is a lame excuse for it basically being a softlock

[stiff jackal]

i load my save and my screen is black but my ui is still there

[young mango]

Also “huge challenge” might be a bit of an over exaggeration

[full wagon]

no zombie at all? even back in the big hebeth arena? hmm.
yea you basically end up doing grenades and if you had a couple blood punches

[young mango]

Yea it was super buggy and it sucked cuz I was on a good pace, probably could’ve been a sub 30 min no supers mars core

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/ND9m8vJ9HZA?si=YaLsHcNUqJd9v8sN

chat what do we think about the new doom eternal glitch

[wheat vigil]

That arena has no respawning fodder it's actually quite stupid

[lucid siren]

Just finished working out on my guns, I'll be soon catching up to the Slayer.

[south oriole]

Yikes. I'm guessing a potential strategy would be a well-placed destroyer blade?? I'll have to run it tomorrow if I get time. Haven't done so in a bit so I don't remember the fight

[wheat vigil]

Basically yes, snipe the cyber mancs from a distance with destroyer blade/rocket spam, making sure you don't kill the two zombies that are camped next to some of them

[maiden pendant]

How do I get the Hotdog skin for the Mancubus?

[vital ravine]

Just beat the absolute shite out of the dark lord

Never thought it was necessary cuz I had seen a video of it and thought it would be boring

It was aggravating at the end though

[pure iris]

I think its from a past event so you probably cant get it anymore

[empty basin]

It's from Series 13 which isn't available on the store yet

[azure oriole]

So why did my game Crash when i was gonna finish the super gore nest master level just as i put the blue gore key in

Not fair

[vital ravine]

Just a random crash

[vital ravine]

I think you’ll be able to get it again

That hotdog skin and the arch files cosmetics or whatever have been around for a while

I think it occasionally comes back into cosmetic circulation throughout the seasons or something

Weird to say there are seasons in doom eternal but there are

Basically no difference between them but still

[mental path]

hello

[vital ravine]

Omg haiiii

[quiet ember]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-cacodemon-demon-cute-gif-7070685866677885551

[half hollow]

no

atleast it shouldnt, doom eternals story has already ended with tag2 and the slayer being put back in his coffin for a later date

the most logical way id could expand on the story is through an entirely new game

[slow sigil]

yes man totally, it's been years since the last update and complete radio silence but they will definitely make a new dlc

[azure oriole]

Wait when? If it's next year then I definitely misunderstood (next doom game might come out next year)

Oh and I heard they will definitely revive him in the next doom game, not sure about the 3rd extension of doom eternal.

[azure oriole]

The next game is gonna be a prequel

[azure oriole]

Did they confirm it?

[cyan frigate]

thats super weird i love it! it just shuts off the mod but not the base fire? interesting. god i love how much this game breaks 🤣

just ignore luci, no idea why they have to give you a rude sarcastic answer instead of just a simple yes or no

[slow sigil]

He isn't necessary dead so revival isn't a requirement
Plus doom doesn't need doomguy either

[raw acorn]

Mmmmh...

That'll be weird since well : Doom Guy dangit

[azure oriole]

WHAT

DOOM ISNT DOOM WITHOUT DOOMGUY

[slow sigil]

Why, why not

What is doomguy adding to doom that makes him required for a new game

[azure oriole]

Doomguy is basically a staple of doom, without him the game will be dead immediately

[slow sigil]

Doom3 didn't suffer at all for not having doomguy in it

[azure oriole]

Since doomguy is the core of doom, without him it wouldn't make doom, doom.

[slow sigil]

Doomguy very much is not the core of doom, the gameplay is

[azure oriole]

Hate > Good (in doom 3s case)

[slow sigil]

But none of it ever relates to the protagonist

[azure oriole]

No fanart, no lore, no cutscenes, etc.

[strange gale]

look at doom 1/2 and tell me how much the character of doomguy influences those games

[azure python]

There is lore in the first two games

[slow sigil]

You've never seen art of demons? Never actually read any of the lore?

[azure oriole]

Also doomguy reflects the power of a god, so if you're playing as a revenant in battlemode/campaign or anything, it feels odd and you dont feel the need to play more

[azure oriole]

Ive gotten more into the gameplay, some for the story/lore

[strange gale]

he still has little to no personality in the modern games so replacing him with an equivalent would make no difference

[slow sigil]

He doesn't reflect the power of the god, only holds and aspect of it
And can you like, not play other games??? Simply not playing doomguy doesn't ruin anything at all

[strange gale]

put somebody else in a similar enough suit and people will buy that shit all the same

[azure oriole]

Because the other games aren't doom and doesnt reflect the power of a God, more like every other fps

[azure python]

If I remember correctly, Doomguy is a soldier who disobeyed orders when he was told to hurt civilians, so he got sent to Mars, but he ended up defending against a demon outbreak after someone opened a portal by accident

[slow sigil]

In OG doom doomguy was just a guy
Why not replace him with some other guy or gal

Plus, the new game without doomguy would still be doom so that point is mood

[strange gale]

the writers can always invent a reason for a new game to exist after the suits put it into production

[azure python]

Doomguy is still iconic in my book

[slow sigil]

Also also you don't really notice much godly power in gameplay, and gameplay won't change cause "davoth's dick is gone!!!"

[azure oriole]

For me, doom without doomguy isnt doom.

[slow sigil]

Yeah but saying he is needed for the next doom is stupid

Doom3 never gpt any realy critization for not having soomguy

[azure oriole]

Isn't doomguy the one that makes doom iconic? Without him the whole game would feel alot more plain and pale (ik you're gonna say something like "THE GAMEPLAY IS WHAT MATTERS")

[azure python]

It would be strange to suddenly have him disappear, but maybe a spin-off where you play as a regular soldier in the ARC would be pretty fun as a CO-OP shooter

[slow sigil]

Partly, but i'm much more sure the demons and guns combine to more of a dopm feeling then doomguy

[slow sigil]

Except it's not "suddenly"

[strange gale]

he's in the forever box without his god powers because davoth's dead

[raw acorn]

Guys... The reason Doom Guy destroyed demon in the first place, is to avenge Daisy's death

[azure oriole]

What would be the game then? In the lore doomguy is immortal so he can't physically die and has infinite strength so how do we make him disappear in someway?

[raw acorn]

The WHOLE series is that
A vengeance against the forces of evil that kill his pet

[strange gale]

"in the lore" that you haven't read a single line of

[raw acorn]

It's John Wick dangit

[azure oriole]

Daisy's death was a hallucination so doomguy killed demons for seemingly no reason

[strange gale]

why do you use "the lore" as some kind of handwave explanation if you haven't even read the source material

[raw acorn]

(How's that an hallucination ?)

[azure oriole]

heard*

[strange gale]

he has no god powers anymore, they're explicitly ripped away at the end of tag2

[azure oriole]

I have not played tag 2 yet.

[azure python]

He’s still Doomguy though

[azure oriole]

I mean yeah

[azure python]

He managed to survive long enough for the Sentinels to find him

[strange gale]

a cardboard cutout

[azure oriole]

Doomguys powers are basically just immortality and super strength

In the original doom he uses guns, maybe fists if he gets a berserk or smth

[raw acorn]

Someone else that would endorse Doom Guy's armor have to get godlike powers, one way or another

[azure python]

I suppose the Praetor suit could be retconned into a power relic

[azure oriole]

Isnt the praetor suit invincible to basically anything?

[raw acorn]

Damn, I want to make my own Doom-like so badly now

[azure oriole]

So if anyone wears his suit they immediately become a godlike status

[azure python]

What’s stopping you?

[raw acorn]

Knowledge in game making X'D

[azure oriole]

Do it, call it Mood

Maybe replace some guns

[strange gale]

no, that's nowhere in the source material, have you been watching youtube lore videos?

[azure oriole]

No, more like tutorial videos on how to quick swap better/aim better

[raw acorn]

In Doom 2016, Imps can rip his arms off, so... Not that invicible
And Argent lasers too, can cut through

[azure oriole]

Oh yea

[azure python]

Even a lowly zombie can kill him

[azure oriole]

Ive seen a death screen where a mancubus beats the sh1t out of doomguy and he dies

[raw acorn]

But yeah, another Doom Guy, has to be blessed by something, so he play equal game with demons or eldricht horror

[azure oriole]

(In Doon 2016)

[azure python]

Also, does the lava melt doomguy, or roast him inside of his armor?

[slow sigil]

Doomguy is definitely mortal, otherwise he won't be able to getcknocked out either
Nor infinite strength
And neither are needed ingame

[raw acorn]

Considering Mars' atmosphere, could be roasted inside

[raw acorn]

If I ever make a Doom-like game, it'll just be a power armor

[azure oriole]

He is human with powers after all..

[slow sigil]

Or just human, pre 2016

[azure python]

So, maybe a Fallout inspired DOOM-like

[azure oriole]

Roasts him definitely, I feel like the suit is invincible to heat/lava.

[azure oriole]

Fallout x DOOM maybe? They should make a collab

[raw acorn]

Not this kind of power-armor

[azure python]

They are both Bethesda games

[azure oriole]

Fallout was a Bethesda game??!?!

[raw acorn]

Doom's from ID software ☝️

[slow sigil]

Bought by them iirc, with new vegas being made by another studio

[azure python]

I still feel like there are fallout references in doom 2016

[azure oriole]

Ohhh

[slow sigil]

3 was a bethesda game i think? And so where 4 and 76

[azure oriole]

Maybe developed by other softwares

[azure python]

Although, I think DOOM already takes place in the Wolfenstein universe

[raw acorn]

Theoriticly 'cause Doom Guy is probably a Blazkowicz

[azure python]

That man’s genes are unstoppable

[slow sigil]

Only according to some random dev talk, but it doesn't conflict with anything and is cool so 👍

[azure oriole]

Oh BTW did they remove punch tech from doom eternal??

[slow sigil]

No

[azure oriole]

I tried it on console, died in 4 seconds

[azure python]

You mean blood punch?

[azure oriole]

It doesnt work for me

[azure python]

Or regular punch?

[azure oriole]

No, punch tech

You shoot then punch to skip the reload animation (for example, ssg then punch then ssg, it instantly shoots after punching)

[slow sigil]

It's harder on console cause you need to open the weapon wheel (unless you're a madman with 4 binded weapons

[azure python]

Ahh, I wasn’t aware

[slow sigil]

And you swap "back" to your gun

[azure oriole]

I guess I'm a madman

[slow sigil]

Punch, hotkey current gun, shoot cause you're holding fire, punch

[azure oriole]

Because I make my dpad with ssg ballista rocket and pb, plus plasma on l3

[azure oriole]

Does it require the wep wheel?

[slow sigil]

No

[azure oriole]

How do I hotkey weapons

[azure python]

Also, is that an N profile pic?

[azure oriole]

Yeah, you watch MD?

[azure python]

I still have to watch that show

I watched the pilot a while back

[azure oriole]

watch the rest, pretty good and I recommend

Anyways how do I hotkey weapons?

[slow sigil]

You seem to have already done it

[azure oriole]

Wait so like I shoot but hold it then punch then after the punch the gun shoots?

I have no idea

[slow sigil]

Holding shoot is just so you fire first frame and don't have to keep pressing it

You punch after, and during the punch eith semi-strict timing you swap "back" so sfter the punch animation you can shoot again

[azure oriole]

ohhhhh

yeah I still don't get it but oh well, thx for explaining 😅

[azure python]

You could always go to the practice room on the spaceship to try it

[slow sigil]

You "swap" after your punch to your original weapon so you can shoot it again

But you press it during the punch

[azure oriole]

WHERES THE PRACTICE ROOM PLEASE TELL ME

[azure python]

So, a punch cancel

[azure oriole]

OOHHH I get it now thx

[azure python]

There is an elevator on one of the lower levels

It takes you to a dungeon full of demons

[azure oriole]

Oh that one

Yeeeaah imma pass, I always play doom eternal with overdrive

Ever since then I can't go back

[azure python]

Remind me what overdrive is?

[azure oriole]

A cheat code in doom eternal where you can get infinite ammo if you also turn on infinite ammo cheat code, move faster, shoot faster, reload faster, quickswap faster, basically do everything faster

[lucid siren]

The Ripatorium?

[azure python]

Ye

[azure oriole]

how hard is ultra nightmare campaign

[lucid siren]

I dunno, I usually play casually on UV. The only games I play on the hardest setting is COD.

[azure oriole]

i want to be golden

i want to shit gold when i rip and tear

[flint flame]

Have you played regular nightmare?

[slow sigil]

Just as hard as nightmare

[delicate berry]

Anyone down to play battlemode? Looking to boost some trophies on ps

[sly mist]

whats your ps tag

[delicate berry]

TheButter_Chiken

[glacial python]

Do I need the Doom Eternal base game (I have it for PlayStation) if I want to play Ancient Gods on PC, since I usually see the DLC cheaper on PC

[slow sigil]

You don't need basegame

[azure oriole]

I'm planning to work on a sound enhanchment mod for weapons 😄

[balmy heron]

Hi

[lucid siren]

Nope.

[languid spoke]

i just beat the game in less than 3 days

please send me challenges to do

[green viper]

Idk man im doing my first PC run right now

[flint flame]

not exactly a flex but good job

[flint flame]

naturally, the next challenge is to do it on a higher difficulty

[polar halo]

I finished the campaign with zero bfg ammo left and it sucks trying to do master levels on UN like that. anyone know what I can do to start master levels with full ammo?

[raw acorn]

You can't have full ammo in Eternal

[lucid siren]

You can if you collect that particular cheat code for unlimited ammo.

[raw acorn]

x)

[polar halo]

all the yt clips ive watched they all start with max crucible charges and full bfg ammo, im assuming they ended their campaign that way and it reflects their last save state?

oh no i dont mean with cheats, just naturally updating my save state while its at full ammo and with the correct runes

otherwise i have to swap runes and weapon mods every time i attempt UN

cause it reverts back to how it was on my last save state

[flint flame]

just play a level like urdak that has plenty of bfg ammo. when you complete the level after picking up bfg ammo, the next time you play a level/master level you have the bfg ammo

[flint flame]

me when i spread misinformation

[polar halo]

good shit man thanks

game changer hahaha

bro ive spent so many hours on this im so ashamed

[flint flame]

if you have the praetor suit point upgrade that shows where the crucible charges and bfg charges are that helps

[polar halo]

im not even close to finishing SGN on UN

i do!

[azure oriole]

Or use xinput_3 dll and give yourself the ammo then skip the level with noclip

On top of that i feel like meathook commands are just a bless to get into ultra nightmare

[fallen heart]

https://clips.twitch.tv/NaiveRoundSoybeanJonCarnage-nfJTj50AKLVRofh9

you shoot weapon, punch, press bind of same weapon during punch, shoot...repeat

[shut night]

Shouldn't be using either

Also should ask in general what's console command for binding mouse wheel to jump, want to bhop more

[south oriole]

Holy moly that's a beautiful clip. Gonna try to incorporate this style

[flint flame]

it was like bind mwheelup +jump

its been two years so i prob have it wrong

[young mango]

It’s _jump

[sullen depot]

anyone who does this is a fraud

[glossy warren]

odd statement

[vale pebble]

Elaborate

[sullen depot]

It's too easy to bunny hop

It's also evil in pvp

[flint flame]

It’s practically required to play dread/mar/manc 🤣🤣🤣

[prisma citrus]

Yo best demon to play as in battle mode?

[random vault]

how dare people who play high level use techniques that allow high level play

[sullen depot]

Too ez

[sullen depot]

Yeah b hopping is required

Shouldn't be free

[sullen depot]

Nah man, it's free. It's cringe beyond belief

[random vault]

literally what is cringe

is your little brain sad because “muh purity”

[sullen depot]

I'm no purist, I just simply think scroll b hops are free

And dumb as hell in pvp

[young mango]

Making a technique easier to pull off doesn’t immediately invalidate the movement tech all together, sure it makes it easier to bunnyhop but why’s that a bad thing?

[sullen depot]

PvP

[random vault]

wdym “free”

[sullen depot]

Extremely easy.

[random vault]

do you really expect people to mash their fingers to mush spamming space trying to bhop

[sullen depot]

No, cuz if you do that, it won't work lol. You have to time the jump

[random vault]

literally nobody uses space to bhop, bhoppings conception comes from scroll wheel binding jump

[random vault]

doom eternal barely has that

[sullen depot]

Battlemode, SVS, Tenemode, Invasion

[sullen depot]

There's definitely people who use space

[random vault]

what is svs, tenemode, or invasion, eternal only has battlemode

[sullen depot]

Modded multiplayer.

SVS is slayer vs slayer. Tenemode is better battlemode basically

[random vault]

why would you be so pissy about someone bhopping in a niche multiplayer mod

[sullen depot]

There's a dedicated audience behind those mods, and a decent competitive scene as well.

[random vault]

define decent

[sullen depot]

Idk why you're so mad and so butt hurt over me saying scroll hops are free

[random vault]

im not?

[sullen depot]

k

But yeah, modded PVP is a growing scene in eternal. B Hops are very good, and I just feel like they should reward good mechanical skill rather than scroll spam.

That's why it's cringe imo

[young mango]

High framerate makes it more consistent so that point is immediately null

[midnight bolt]

Doom Hunter

[sullen depot]

Real

[prisma citrus]

Facts

[green viper]

side note, i forgot how long Doom Eternal is

[sullen depot]

Does he know?

[prisma citrus]

Know what?

[sullen depot]

https://youtu.be/RGpNGkYtWGU?si=5yPpYi6TW7SvpbhV
Go to 1:04:40

[random vault]

also this, the b hopping point doesnt even matter when this game is literally pay to win

[azure oriole]

@young mango would you play a mod with smaller hitboxes?

[random vault]

pay for better computer, get higher frames, play better

[azure oriole]

Just for the fun of better aim lol

[young mango]

Isn’t that what 6.0 did?

[azure oriole]

No idea, but precision bolt is still hilarious

You can hit the shoulder and thats a headshot

[sullen depot]

So yeah, the doom hunter is real

[midnight bolt]

I wish the Doom Hunter was real

[sullen depot]

Real

[lucid siren]

That's what I like about it, one of the things anyway, it's slightly longer than most FPS campaigns. I mean if first-person RPG's can get 50-100 hours, why shouldn't we also be able to get a nice long campaign.

[green viper]

i wasnt saying that is a bad thing, i was making an observation. i havent played it since release and im doing my first PC run leading up to winter break. im in hour five and it finally hit that this game is long

[lucid siren]

I prefer the hitboxes to be realistically accurate to the enemy's physical structure, althought I'd expect to do more damage with head and body shots than shooting them in the arms or legs.

[lucid siren]

Yeah, especially with the DLC and if you look at the Slayer story arc as a whole, with 2016 included, it's one hell of a ride.

[azure oriole]

For fun purpose i will just change the precision bolt projectile so it is smaller i already have a mod i want to do

[fallen heart]

i time all my bhops on a controller lol

[random vault]

fair enough

im just garbage 🔥

[fallen heart]

lol don't compare

thats 4700 hours of practicing it

[random vault]

nah im just genuinely bad at movement techs in most games

like i still dont understand cs surfing or source b-hopping

[small helm]

struggled with Holt UV for 4 days just to complete it on bus ride to work jesus christ

[strange gale]

you might've had a point there if the difficulty and efficiency of lurch hops weren't directly tied to the client framerate

unless you get everyone in the scene to cap their fps to a specific value and the hardware to reach that value consistently, that aspect of the game will always be pay to win

you'd also have to get people to agree to a scrollwheel ban based on a honor system if you wanted this to have any real competitive viability

[sharp cove]

i have been playing eternal on steamdeck, and ive noticed that for some reason there is no keyboard and mouse support for doom eternal even though that its running the pc version, even with gamepad disabled, youre still locked to gamepad binds, has anyone else encountered this and has a solution?

[small helm]

embedded gamepad overrides inputs shown, otherwise keyboard and mouse work just fine

like i use my wireless mouse and keyboard with both Steam Deck and ROG Ally and they both function identically

[full wagon]

xbox has an hours counter yea?

[fallen heart]

yup!

[full wagon]

have you taken breaks due to burnout or other stuff

[fallen heart]

how do you mean?

[full wagon]

has your playtime been steady or have you taken breaks in between

or basically played mostly since launch

[fallen heart]

steady for very long periods,but when other games tickle my pickle i go grind them aswell and just "keep maintenance" on doom every now and then without run attempts. Like...Sifu and Sekiro been 2 games i've been or still grind well. Got a WR on 1 and a top 20 time on the other there aswell. And i played DE on launch once , then started playing alot more after TAG 1 launched

[full wagon]

ahh got ya

[fallen heart]

the sub 2 isn't cracked yet for console on 100% UN so i still got work layed out for me! Games not going nowhere 🙂

[full wagon]

you close

wonder how many UN completions you have

it tracks completions/attempts yea? on livesplit.

[fallen heart]

livesplit is showing me 2,4K on 100% category and 3k attempt on any%

[full wagon]

completions of UN?

5.4k total

[fallen heart]

however 100% is inaccurate since i ran a long time without setting up full splits and also on another data

[full wagon]

Ahh so it’ll be fewer

[fallen heart]

can't find completions but i could count them from memory if u give me a sec

[fallen heart]

no, far more attempts

[full wagon]

ah gotcha yea so those are attempts?

[fallen heart]

4k easily

[full wagon]

4k UN completions?

[fallen heart]

attempts at the 100% run

[full wagon]

ahh gotcha attempts

[fallen heart]

i think i completed 100% UN less than 10 times tbh

[full wagon]

o really

Just taking runs that would PB?

[fallen heart]

but dozens of 100% runs on ITYTD

yes, very reset heavy

[full wagon]

did u ever wanna finish any that wouldn’t PB but maybe at least be solid?

[fallen heart]

when i started out i would go for 99% UNs often yup but now i exit the menu and go back to hell on earth when some challenge fails

or even failing to "fast gate" in Exultia / Super Gore Nest slayer gates is just too much of a timeloss at this point to continue

cause u just, lets say, complete the full hundo UN run knowing damn well at the end you can have Egg and SGN be 30 seconds faster from a single combat encounter you gonna run again the next day...so why waste time, just go fresh run right away. But thats not a mentality i'd recommend for new runners to have. Rather continue full run under the time pressure to gain experience

[vital ravine]

Do people really play this game that much

I know it’s fun but bloody hell that’s a bit much

[fallen heart]

until it is done

[vital ravine]

Think you forgot a step in that phrase

Lmao

[fallen heart]

nope

if thats how long it takes, then thats how long it takes

[vital ravine]

Somebody stop this man

[flint flame]

Until it is done.

[fallen heart]

Until it is done.

[vital ravine]

(Fuck it) Until it is done.

WAIT THAT CAME OUT WRONG

[fallen heart]

thats what she said

[flint flame]

🤨

[fallen heart]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-the-office-gif-26388601

[flint flame]

That too, came out wrong

[vital ravine]

I meant to say fuck it, until it is done

Not fuck it until it is done

[mental stone]

Commas are important.

[vital ravine]

Yep

Just saw the time I gotta be up in 20 minutes

I’ve accidentally pulled an all nighter oh no

[flint flame]

thats gonna be me rn

2:18 am rn

[vital ravine]

I would love to see the slayer just pull out a glock 17 when he runs out of munitions

[slow sigil]

Or have reloading mechanics

[pliant zealot]

how do you perform the double lock on glitch?

(can fit 2 volleys in one practically)

[flint flame]

Look up Sylar lock on burst on YouTube

[empty basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_k7ZgLTXXw
tutorial with MKB visual

It takes some time to get used to

When I started learning it, I used the Slayerpalast level mod as training grounds, though you can practice it against the Tyrant at the Nekravol gate too
https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/968

[pliant zealot]

yeah apparently modding my version is really inconsistent so i guess i can do the tyrant at nekravol 💀

[empty basin]

wdym inconsistent?

[pliant zealot]

i use gamepass version

so i need to use UWPDumper, which alot of people say is really bad, although im trying it rn

[empty basin]

ah I see, good luck 👍

[pliant zealot]

im confused on the second barrage, does it just do it on its own?

[empty basin]

no you still gotta hold down mouse2 for it

[pliant zealot]

but it tells you to stop holding? tf?

[empty basin]

SLOB (Sylar Lock-On Burst) allows for the first charge to be done near instantly, so the second volley starts faster as well

so you PB, fire a rocket, do first volley, then second volley comes around

Like I said, it takes some time to get used to, but you'd notice when you get it right since the timing would be much faster than if you do it incorrectly

[pliant zealot]

yeah this is really annoying not gonna lie

and having to reset every attempt

ayyy i got it!

[empty basin]

grats 👍

now to try it again and again to practice consistency

[pliant zealot]

yeah

i was overcomplicating it, i thought there were inputs before before and after the first

the tricky part was not holding right click after the PB

[azure oriole]

Hey I'm trying to do BATS so I can quickly shoot ballista and rocket like sylar did in this video:
https://youtu.be/ByPw_r5uXZc?feature=shared&t=167

So I'm doing it like this where CAPS is weapon swap as shown in sylars vid above:

PB -> CAPS -> Ballista -> LMB -> CAPS -> Rocket -> LMB-> CAPS -> Ballista -> LMB

Sylar holds left mouse button at points so as long as the LMB is registered I assumed it would be ok

This is me trying to do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq7bl8Ra7pQ

When I try to do it faster it just doesn't shoot.

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? I'm slowly losing it as i've been trying for hrs 😦

[covert basalt]

watch it at 0.25 speed. at 0:07 you pressed mod swap and rocket launcher key at the same time and lost (fast) BATS, so from that point forward you're basically just mod swap cancelling ballista and rocket launcher which is way slower. That's the typical mistake you'll often do while trying to learn this tech, it takes quite some time to get completely consistent with it. It's also extremely dependant on your bindings, bad bindings can make it uncomfortable to move around while you're doing bats, be mindful of that

[empty basin]

whoa the man himself

[strange gale]

you can stop holding your mod button early if you want to modswap cancel out of the slob a bit faster, it'll still fire the second volley

it's a tiny optimization you shouldn't worry about unless you wanna speedrun

[azure oriole]

Someone on the speedrunning discord mentioned the same just before that my key presses were too close together so I'm cancelling it.
At least I know where I'm messing up. I'm using it to literally just do your 3 cycle on the possessed marauder cause it looked so cool lol. Anyway thanks for the help

[covert basalt]

that one is indeed pretty cool 😅 no problem, glad to help

[dry tapir]

Alright I'm tired of pretending

Air Mobility should be a default part of your moveset in these games

Every time I start a new save file on Ancient Gods I always get thrown off by the fact that the default physics don't make you play like a real character

[slow sigil]

either that or removed entirely

[strange gale]

why don't you go jump off a cliff and see if you can air control and double jump your way back up

i'm going to meathook swing into orbit so fast that i travel back in time

[lucid siren]

To which era?

[strange gale]

a fraction of a second ago, probably

[lucid siren]

You need to go back to Castle Wolfenstein at least, to punch some Nazis.

[dry tapir]

Holy crap, Lois, it's PS2 Kiryu !!

[silk python]

no freaking way

[azure oriole]

Advice for improving at the game?

[vale pebble]

Get good at quick swapping

[azure oriole]

bit weird on a controller

[vale pebble]

Nah it's easy to perfect

I literally do it just fine

[azure oriole]

Okie dokie

[vale pebble]

Yeah it's different from PC but it's still able to be learned well

[sullen depot]

Learn how to move. Meathook to precision bolt as great for movement and restack. Learn how to single dash too.

There's a lot that goes into good movement, but those are the basics.

There's things like ballista boosting, wall dashing, hook flinging, dash boosting, and more

It's lot of fun to experiment and learn the movement in this game, and it'll help you out a ton.

[azure oriole]

Single dash as in dashing once as soon as both dashes refill?

[sullen depot]

Very useful for PVP as well

[sullen depot]

Yep yep 👍

Don't burn through both dashes, since the recharge time is kinda long. Just dash once and dash again as soon as it refills.

[wet fjord]

Playing through on xbox 360 controller on nightmare mode, been a while since I was actually challenged in a videogame

Iv seen much, esp in borderlands raid bosses when they are first released

Game is pretty tough

Immense respect for ultra nightmare players if they can do it on 360 controller

but keyboard and mouse players I still dont respect

[subtle dagger]

i feel MAD gaslit rn, lmfao
I've been doing mixes of the Eternal OST, and mixed a track of Cultist Base ambience with a stinger made for the same area that felt reminiscent of DOOM 64. However, for like the past half-hour I've been trying to find the BPM of it (the exact file in the directory is cultist_base_music_main_ambient_2_id#858939102). Using "tap for BPM" functions, I kept getting values ranging from 133-137, but then I remembered seeing the BPM value 66.6 be thrown around in Metal Choir sheets, but given their inclusion in their, I only checked as a joke because this track didn't have vocals...
... That turned out to be the exact BPM.
I'm shitting myself.
But hey, it at least got me to check if it was the same for A Cultist Prayer, and it is!

[subtle dagger]

i haven't beaten UN (nor do i want to) but i did beat tAG1 UV difficulty on PS4 when it came out, and I'm still proud of that to this day even if I greatly dislike the expansion in retrospect

[wet fjord]

Whats tag1 uvg difficulty?

Is that the arcade mode one with the lives?

Im probably going to do an ultra nightmare playthrough on 360 controller when I play through the game a few times

[subtle dagger]

Ancient Gods 1?? Ultra-Violence??

[sweet pond]

just boot up eternal.
Crying from happines.
Yea,i'am doing it on Nightmare.

[thick abyss]

If I buy the year one pass for doom eternal and I have the disc will it still give me the ps4 dlcs for the disc

[bronze zodiac]

finally beaten entire game on ultra violence. Time for real game to begin on nightmare

i will say tho i def not looking forward to fight holt's slayer gate on nightmare. that thing is a stuff of horror

[sweet pond]

I started on nightmare.
it is fun.

[bronze zodiac]

i have no prio FPS experience so i have to get from the ground up

[sweet pond]

fair tho

[bronze zodiac]

my friend laugh his ass off when i quote on quote "shoot like someone just have lobotomy" legit made me mad

so i just want to beat the game prob on nightmare then extra life nightmare then ultra nightmare and masterwork nightmare

[atomic owl]

I just got Doom Eternal over the weekend and I’m loving it

[south oriole]

My advice is to keep challenging yourself. Quick switching is cool and flashy but knowing how to get out of bad situations is key. Don't let the low health beep get you panicked, and learn the demon weaknesses. Spread out your ammo usage between all the types, and wean yourself off the BFG/Crucible

[sweet pond]

i mean..i have..some experience.
[Looks at 6000+ hours in tf2]

[sweet pond]

i unbinded bfg

[south oriole]

I keep it binded but only because I have an MMO mouse with 12 buttons on the side

Heck my equipment switch is now on 9

[sweet pond]

i don't like bfg because that's cheap way to deal with mf demons

[south oriole]

I mean sure but don't forget the Unmaykr exists and is great in a lot of ways

[sweet pond]

unmaykr is fine.
but shh.
it's my first playthrough.

gosh,i cried so much after booting eternal.

[bronze zodiac]

i just avoid using BFG altogether

i think that if i need to use BFG then i do the encounter wrong

i dont have specific quick switch like some pros but i use via mouse wheel to switch like from rocket to SSG to balista and all

[sweet pond]

i mean.
I will shot bfg once just to see the effect's

or to make fun of marauder

he can't block shit when staggered

[bronze zodiac]

i scared of those spirited hell knight than marauder

spirit enemy is really make something from a pipsqueak to a nuclear bomb with legs

[wet fjord]

oh

[wet fjord]

Its my first playthrough, I dont know much bout the game yet

[bronze zodiac]

ayy fellow 1st timer

[empty basin]

And then when I learned how to do SLOB they turned back to pipsqueaks, at least for everything else that aren't Possessed Tyrants, Barons, Archviles and Marauders anyways

[bronze zodiac]

wat is slob tho

[empty basin]

SLOB (Sylar Lock-On Burst)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_k7ZgLTXXw

One of the fastest ways to output high damage on a single enemy

[bronze zodiac]

me when see archviles : literally search him with killing intention. i aint letting that thing live for more than 20s

[empty basin]

basically you unload a Precision Bolt shot alongside 7 rockets in around 2-3 seconds

[bronze zodiac]

i am not fast enough for precision bolt tech. maybe just my laptop keyboard or my keybind

[empty basin]

nah it just takes some time getting used to

[bronze zodiac]

i play things so far with pretty basic things and switching with mouse wheel pretty much

[empty basin]

ah I see

[bronze zodiac]

but i always try to beat encounter without dieing or use BFG so am slowly getting better at moving

am trying the PB punch animation but it isnt cancelling anything it just make PB come off cooldown abit faster

[wet fjord]

Been playing fps for 20 fn years now since metroid prime came out on gamecube and nightmare mode aint fuckin around with the faint of heart

if using controller that is

Keyboard warrior can stay mad

[wet fjord]

No respect for this gameplay, you used a keyboard and mouse

[empty basin]

it's not just shoot -> punch -> repeat, but rather shoot -> punch -> press the weapon key -> repeat

[bronze zodiac]

i legit only play FPS this year with halo then doom 2016 and eternal....so yeah am pretty much a scrub

[empty basin]

that's not my gameplay though

[bronze zodiac]

i think i picked like the worst type of games to start since they are fundamentally different from most FPS

[wet fjord]

Iv used controller in csgo and shit... its too easy I have to play on high ping servers to nerf myself

[bronze zodiac]

but eh they are good games and kinda satisfied

[wet fjord]

The lazer aim takes all the fun out of it

[empty basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-rFQtSlMDQ
tutorial video

[bronze zodiac]

me after playing turn based game for 28 years: how can i use all my fingers for these

[bronze zodiac]

it took 43h to finish doom eternal on ultra violence (including dlc 1 and 2) how long you think gonna take me do to nightmare and prob prepare for ultra nightmare

[empty basin]

well with UV you'd already have know the basics, so I think you'd take less time to complete nightmare

not sure about UN though, I never completed the game that way

[bronze zodiac]

i want to eventually prob reach UN and prob masterwork

[empty basin]

tbh unless you really are determined for the grind, I woulnd't recommend UN

[bronze zodiac]

my asshole of a friend would ask me to do UN or halo LASO anyway

it just gonna be which game i choose gonna hate first eventually kek

[empty basin]

well I wouldn't want to play a game for the purpose of hating it, lol

[bronze zodiac]

it basically like : you love it but you prob play the game so much you hate it but after you beat it you think back and love it again

those kind of sensation

[glossy warren]

that's not hating it that's just called being burned out

unless you're one of those people that over time starts picking out flaws in game design even though on tip-of-the-iceberg level they're really not a problem and you wouldn't care about them playing casually

[young mango]

Me

[bronze zodiac]

am the definition of too stupid to die and too stubborn to give up

so even tho am suck at FPS i still gonna push my way to nightmare and ultra nightmare potentially masterwork nightmare

[strange gale]

then you've gotta be pushing 40, shouldn't you be worrying about your mortgage instead?

[sweet pond]

Play devil daggers tho

[young mango]

Lame

Doom is a pc game why would you get mad at people for playing it on pc

You know invalidating other peoples achievements is a sign of an inferiority complex

[sullen depot]

No respect for the gameplay either, it's lock on

"No respect". Lmao

Who cares.

[young mango]

Sylar is one of the best doom eternal players out there and this guy is trying to downplay it because it’s kbm lol

[kind sundial]

im falling apart, they removed slayers club points

[young mango]

Wait til this guy finds out there’s only like 3ish people who are actually high tier controller players

[kind sundial]

i havent played eternal in forever but kept religoulsy logging onto slayers club to check my points, now its gone 😦

[sullen depot]

I agree, he's good at using air control

Wait how is he one of the best

[young mango]

He has a pretty good understanding of tech and can clear levels pretty quickly despite not being a speedrunner

He discovered slob and yeetblast, and he shone light on other weapon tech that previously only speedrunners had made tutorials on

[midnight bolt]

slob on my knob

[warm burrow]

wtf

[timber shell]

hello my dear fifrelin

how it's going here ?

[meager swallow]

yeetblast

[cyan frigate]

bruh moment 🤮

[sweet pond]

gonna let my back rest a bit
Did killed doom hunters without Deaths tho
But still sometimes get lost in the buttons

Oddly enough harder boss aren't those guys
But those mf who keep summoning walls at my face

[vital ravine]

Why doesn’t anyone talk about the adaptive triggers for this game on ps5

Omfg my granddad likes doom eternal music

Had the main menu theme on in the background while we were talking and he mentioned he likes it

[glossy warren]

Carcasses

Worst enemy in the game

[valid grove]

Thank god pain elementals in eternal are nothing like in doom 2

[strange gale]

you have a whole extra dimension + busted ass movement tools to work with in de so the comparison doesn't really make sense

the difference between the two iterations of the enemy is irrelevant when the games they're in aren't comparable to begin with

[slow sigil]

but thjey share the same name!!! how cabn i not compare them perfectly 1:1!!!!

[warped jay]

hey I'm making a doom eternal ttrpg all about the little guys, and I'm just wondering how I should work in the rapid fire mechanic, like do I have it shoot multiple shots but do a little amount of damage or do I have it just do normal damage but have a penalty upon shooting just something that would make sense for rapid fire

[slow sigil]

depends entirely on how you balance it ig

[warped jay]

imagine cannon demons

it's meant to be a view onto the little guys so the players aren't insanely powerful in the slightest

[devout olive]

Hey fellas, I've been playing the game since yesterday, and I'm having so much fun, I think now that my heart is DOOM only!

[glossy warren]

glad you're enjoying it

[devout olive]

Thanks!

[silk python]

my fellow doomer

[north plume]

Rn im in vacation so i bought doom on my switch but cant play multiplayer ._.

[azure oriole]

Almost finished mars core in UN oof

[vale pebble]

It's pretty dead just play single player

[random vault]

yeah i have no respect for people who-
checks notes

play the game

[vale pebble]

You making controller players look bad lil bro

Keyboard or Controller who cares just play the game

[fallen heart]

where you get THAT number from?

[sullen depot]

@fallen heart how's trepang2 been dude?

[fallen heart]

haven't played more,its funny tho

[young mango]

Well 3 controller players I actually know

You, muricaneagle, and that one French guy

[fallen heart]

bold statement then....Dozens of great controller players, most BM

[young mango]

My point was this guy is complaining that somethings invalid because it’s not anti meta

[sullen depot]

Yessssss, the PVP scene deserves love.

Yeah there's players like Bazookajo3y, Mythtical, Andromida, theres lots of guys

[young mango]

Suggesting kbm is so much better that using it instead of controller is “cheating” is basically insulting controller play in the first place

[sullen depot]

Unfortunately only andromida plays modded MP atm, but he's taking a break.

He plays tenemode, not SVS. I play both.

He switched over to kb&m though.

[young mango]

Didn’t mean it as an insult to controller players btw, just trying to debate this guy making a dumb point

[strange gale]

this just goes to show that you know nothing about doom eternal

the enemy hurtboxes are massive and most of your weapons either have tons of spread or are explosives, so aiming is barely relevant

i'm even making that argument in the framing that you set, being that kbm is somehow "cheating", which is wrong and i know you have no actual backing for

but assuming it is true, how does playing on a controller make some arbitrary feat in a game, that at a casual level hinges mostly on decisionmaking, that much more impressive than doing the same thing on kbm?

do you believe that because you assume controllers are handicaps in every game?

do you seriously believe the skill floor for controller players is that much higher when all we're doing anyway is just pressing buttons?

are you downplaying controller players in general?

name any game, there are controller players in its community who are infinitely better than you or the average kbm player

[young mango]

Slob is like one of the easiest tech to execute and this guy is saying it’s invalid because kbm😂😂

Tbh I don’t even think the guy truly believes in what he’s saying I just think he wants to feel better about his own gameplay like noodle did so he finds ways to make other players look bad

[half hollow]

i was about to mention tf2 but then i realized solarlight went an entire competative match using a controller and nobody noticed, he even managed to do some crazy shit not possible with kbm

[gentle merlin]

Hello guys, there is a campaign milestone that says "???" and unlocks a "deluxe" profile icon, what do i need to do?

Also, any tips on how to complete the game in ultra-nightmare?

[midnight aspen]

I just bought the game, what do I have to expect? I finished only the first chapter

[tacit aspen]

Punch a Slayer gate without having the key

[tired pier]

What do you mean, it's doom, expect shredding through demons and feeling like a god when bfg division plays

[sweet pond]

I mean, playing on nightmare makes you learn the game

because everything hits you so fucking hard

[tired pier]

True also pause

[sweet pond]

but god,i love slayer gates on nightmare

it's genuinely fun challenges

[jaunty vapor]

From taking cursory glances at the conversation, it's most likely some form of jealousy (maybe not of someone particular, just "I can't do this stuff, these people can, the difference between is pc and console, THERE'S MY EXCUSE" rather than just being more introspective and improving.

Like he makes it sound like there's no skill brackets within PC when there's CLEARLY people who are ass on PC much like there's Gods on Console.

[bronze zodiac]

why are we like worry about whether people do on PC or console

We play it cuz the challenge, the thrill and enjoyment. who cares who play on which device

[bronze zodiac]

am only finish the game once. starting on 2nd playthrough and trust me once you get to cultist base everything will unfold and you will have some of the best time in gaming

[empty basin]

I'm pretty sure the person was just trolling

it was like one sentence from a person who just joined the server from a day before

[glossy warren]

grrr I hate console skill gap too big caveman noises

[empty basin]

not sure why people took the bait considering how obvious it was

[sweet pond]

oh boy,there comes arc complex
I wonder who lives there

[vale pebble]

Peter Griffin does

Who else would live there

[random vault]

no hes at that fortnite poi

[sweet pond]

also,how to properly set up slob?
I tried several times,but nothing happened after precision bolt

[flat mortar]

Hey just curious, how does the One Year Pass work?

[empty basin]

The Year 1 Pass? it gives you The Ancient Gods Part 1 and 2 DLC

[flat mortar]

just to be clear i dont need to buy the dlcs after i pay for the one year pass?

like, it becomes free? (sorry if im asking a lot)

[empty basin]

yeah the DLCs are already included on year one pass

it's not that the DLC becomes free, it's that you're buying the DLC

[flat mortar]

Also, is rhe one year pass like its name, lasting one year or is it permant

[empty basin]

the name refers to content released on the first year of the game, which was released on 2020

[flat mortar]

Ah, thank you for letting me know

[empty basin]

👍

[flat mortar]

so buying the one year pass is permanent?

[empty basin]

yes

[flat mortar]

Alright, thank you 👍

[empty basin]

oops caps lock

[flat mortar]

no worries

[bronze zodiac]

i dont understand why alot of people complain about lack of ammo in eternal

Honestly even on my first playthrough am doing just fine. chainsaw is there and you are encouraged to use multiple weapons and equipment launcher anyway

[random vault]

chainsawing too hard 😢

[flat mortar]

yeah its fun to cycle through weapons

[bronze zodiac]

managed to beat map 1 deathless but die to purple goo in mission 2 on nightmare

i need to get some ways around these....it's the area layout that kill me mostly

[azure oriole]

Delta campaign is the goat

[tacit aspen]

Streamlined campaign mod is what you need, the goo there doesn't slow you down if you installed that mod. It's on Nexusmods

[bronze zodiac]

nah man i have to learn through it. i want to beat it in literal sense kek

[azure oriole]

that's not cheating

( that's what she said)

[sweet pond]

Are there any modded maps to practice some tech?

[empty basin]

https://www.nexusmods.com/doometernal/mods/968

[midnight bolt]

I wish a training world was real

Oh wait

[midnight bolt]

Thank you

[azure oriole]

Don't forget about meathook

[midnight bolt]

I love meath00k

[azure oriole]

If you want some extra fps disable temportal antialiasing 'r_TAASafeMode 1'

[midnight bolt]

Real

[azure oriole]

You can also disable sunlight

[velvet olive]

speedrunners make the game look so easy

[azure oriole]

the game is easy when you played it for 2k hours straight

the point of UN is to plan runs afterall

[sweet pond]

it's just me or Archie's look goffy?

[empty basin]

Archie?

[sweet pond]

Archvile

[empty basin]

really? I think they look cool

[sweet pond]

i mean

Most of the time i look at them
They just standing there assorting dominance

[empty basin]

until you get pushed around by the flame waves

[sweet pond]

no?
Just dodge lol
Or use ice grenades
Or shield bash him

[strange gale]

💤

you can also just double jump through em

[cobalt falcon]

they do stand kinda weird

like theyre A-posing

[sweet pond]

Yes!And i just make fun of 'em every time when i see them
It's like "ohh,what is goin on hier?" On his face

[strange gale]

see how well "just dodging" works when the waveblasts start detaching from the ground and tracking you into the air

[azure oriole]

the thing I mostly hate about archviles is that they have a delayed hit which skips the animation and you can't tell when it is about to start

[sweet pond]

Also,does dash give slayer invulnerability frames for a moment?

[azure oriole]

i don't remember but you have invulnerability on 5 hp threshold

[sullen pine]

Hey, can someone with a ps5 help me with 3 achievements in doom?

I have only 3 achievements left to get a platinum, but all of them are online ones

[sullen pine]

Anyone?

[dapper trout]

idk

well i tried to beat doom eternal on nightmare lol

[frozen kelp]

Wht

[dapper trout]

nightmare mode = extra hard mode

[frozen kelp]

[dapper trout]

yeah

[frozen kelp]

Ik

[frozen kelp]

Bro u win Doom ETERNAL?

[dapper trout]

on normal

[frozen kelp]

Ooow kk

[dapper trout]

and yes i beat doom eternal on normal mode

[frozen kelp]

Me too

[dapper trout]

logging off to chat:

[vital ravine]

why has everyone agreed this guy is like a dog to this server or something

(Talking about the cacodemon)

[flint flame]

[azure oriole]

because cacos are cute

[ocean sapphire]

yes

[cyan frigate]

we’re ultra gamers 😳

[azure oriole]

me playing everything low/off fsr performance for playing in 2k xD

also welcome ultra

[ocean sapphire]

yes

[glossy warren]

he's good boy

[vital ravine]

Aren’t they canonically incredibly fucking stupid

[desert dagger]

Hello I have a question. I bought doom eternal today for Xbox the Deluxe edition. And I don't know if it also donwloded the dlc or not.

[azure oriole]

how dare you offend my demon cuddly ball

[vital ravine]

…

Vega is no fun

I only tapped the letter y about 100 times

[slow sigil]

"whaaaa i can't spam"

[vital ravine]

?

[desert dagger]

Time to start my first doom

I figure the dlc out later

[vital ravine]

Nice

[desert dagger]

Yeah I just. Hope I actually have the dlc. Would be sad if I didn't

[azure oriole]

have fun, it's a great game

[vital ravine]

Ye

[desert dagger]

I got the delux edition for just 25€

[azure oriole]

i have 1200 hours still playing campaign lol

[vital ravine]

Ps don’t feel ashamed to turn down the difficulty if you feel it’s to hard

[azure oriole]

yeah

the game is literally a nightmare for newbies and new entries

[vital ravine]

I remember the first I tried it I didnt really like it lmao

[desert dagger]

I have it on.. nightmare mode

[azure oriole]

that's the hardest mode

[desert dagger]

I like it hard

[azure oriole]

what's your experience with fps?

oh no trust me, enemies will 2-3 shots you and are actually smart

[desert dagger]

The typical like overwatch also the new armourd core 6 tf2

Such count I think..?

[azure oriole]

nope, doom eternal is about killing hordes of 10-20 demons per screen

really depends on the scenario, it has intense target switching and quick decision making

[desert dagger]

Mhm. Welp that sounds like a lot of fun

[slow sigil]

aslong as it's not too hard that you get frustrated

[azure oriole]

yeah

get into the fun zone that's the most important thing

[desert dagger]

Heh till now it's fun

I had my first two fights

[timber cypress]

Anyone know if the mtn dew points things give anything new for doom eternal or is it just skins that are already out

[slow sigil]

game hasn't been updated for years

[glossy warren]

that changes nothing

our little meatball boys :3333 ❤️

[azure oriole]

it got updated this year actually

[civic rampart]

Yooo I got a new PC that can run Ray tracing recently and that shit looks beautiful

[manic heath]

Doom Eternal🤯

[random vault]

is it really

[glossy warren]

they added doom to doom eternal

[desert dagger]

So I made it to the dash now and not a bad game at all

[vital ravine]

Glad to hear it

It gets pretty intense for new players from now so make sure to focus up

[velvet olive]

(if they fucking picked ultra violence as their first difficulty)

[ocean sapphire]

clobombinateredification

[tidal notch]

ive died almost 6 times playing ultra nightmare I need to git gud

[gusty panther]

As the tips would say....combos

[gusty trench]

Pretty new to the doom series, in the middle of doom eternal rn, first played it on my switch earlier this year, turned away from it cuz it was pretty difficult at first, decided to give it a try again since i got it sale on ps5.... and now im having A BLAST

[sweet pond]

This one arena with spirited baron of hell gonna be in my nightmares

[bronze zodiac]

baron and hell knight variants are like nuclear bombs with legs when spirited

it kinda insane honestly

[chrome spindle]

anyone speaks spanish?

[pine crow]

@azure oriole

Dr. Elena Richardson Log I

This is Dr. Elena Richardson, log entry 002 - subject analysis of Doom Slayer. January 24th, 2163. There is no chance that the subject is a demon - we have blood samples pulled from Mars base event that show his blood type is AB positive

Have you ever gotten the question if the slayer ever gets hit? I would say that we have our answer here. What do you think based on the lore?

[strange gale]

the "canon" vs gameplay slayer argument, classic

[pine crow]

It's not an argument, it's a question. This Log entry is part of the lore since it is stated by the story that they have found his blood

[strange gale]

i'm just saying people love to cite the "lore" (without having actually read the source material) to justify claiming that he's immortal or never gets hit or is literally god, and so on

[pine crow]

I'm not here to make any claims, just to come up with questions that pique my interest for my own entertainment. I've have talks with M0no in the past and I very much agree with him all the time, not to mention that I have read the lore and have invested like 900 hours into this game lol

[limpid pulsar]

Hi

[pine crow]

But I understand where you're coming from

[strange gale]

you directly quoted a codex page so you're already way above the bar

[empty basin]

He definitely has gotten hit

Personally I think the Slayer is actually very vulnerable to damage despite what most people think, but his pseudo-immortality comes from the Divinity Machine enhancements giving him additional life force and energy for every enemy he kills

It would explain why it's so easy to die in the game despite the supposed invulnerability that people thought about

and why Glory Kills gives health

[pine crow]

iirc, the last convo I had with m0no was like a year ago, and I believe he said the same thing as you. Things as in, that he can definitely be killed, take damage etc and that the only reason why that doesn't happen is because of his anger to keep going. If said in a compressed way

[empty basin]

I also think it's way more badass than just being fully invincible to everything

[pine crow]

Absolutely

[empty basin]

As for whether or not he's a god, probably? Not sure what makes one qualify as a god in this series

Though the Khan Maykr does say that he's still a human, but is no longer a mortal, so dying of old age or disease is probably out of the question

[azure oriole]

Canonically the Slayer is capable of being injured or grievously harmed, and canonically this happened during 2016, and that's how they got blood samples from him.

[azure oriole]

And yeah, this is what it is, yeah. The Slayer isn't invincible so much as he is very persistent. Think about how you play an Ultra Nightmare run - you are very fast, very strategic, very careful and very brutal. You come close to death many times but you push on. That's the Slayer "in lore."

It's just his Ultra Nightmare run has lasted a few eons.

[azure oriole]

The nature of being a "God" is itself something contrived in Eternal. The Khan, the Father, the Slayer, and Davoth are all claimed to be, or believe themselves to be, gods. None of them are, really.

[pine crow]

Your first sentence says it all. It's always important to know what renders one a god in a particular verse, but i'm not here to do any tiering, just the question to know if he really got canocially hit by any demon

[azure oriole]

I mean relatively to us they're "gods." But by the definition of the term as one would take it, being "an omnipotent, all-powerful being that is responsible for all of Creation," none of them fit all of those metrics.

[pine crow]

This is amazing

[azure oriole]

Davoth made the Maykrs, but he was a Primeval, not a god, more a demigod than anything. He's more an Adam figure than God.
The Father made reality, but he too is fallible and just an incredibly complex machine.
The Khan's even lower down the rungs, she just is egotistical.
The Slayer is comparatively a God in the eyes of Elena Richardson, but that's her waxing poetic. He is, power-wise, a Primeval.

[empty basin]

Yeah being a god is more of a relative thing than an absolute state of being

Lots of works of fiction that involves multiple divinities also went that way

[azure oriole]

Yeah. Doom takes a lot of inspiration from Gnosticism and certain takes on Satanism in this way.

(Take that, "Doom's a Christian game!" sayers!)

[sweet pond]

Why the fuck the are so incredibly fucking healthy

[pine crow]

You guys already answered my questions. I would stay and talk some more, but I gotta go considering it is 2 in the morning for me. So thanks :)

[empty basin]

good night 👍

[sweet pond]

I mean,WHAT
I can spent like 2 minutes just shooting this fella isn't goin' down

...he.

[azure oriole]

No problem.

[empty basin]

for Possessed Barons or Tyrants you pretty much have to learn SLOB 🥴

[sweet pond]

Shit

[empty basin]

unless you don't mind spending like 8 mins on them for multiple attempts

[sweet pond]

(50)

[empty basin]

I remember when I really struggled on The Holt's Possessed Tyrant before I learned SLOB

[sweet pond]

i mean, WHAT
How much health increase do they get??

[empty basin]

they have like 60% damage resistance I think?

[sweet pond]

Fuck you father

[empty basin]

if I'm reading the spreadsheet correctly and it's up to date, which I can't post here for some reason

[sweet pond]

Dm ?