doom-eternal

[reef marlin]

Horde mode is so fucking fun!!

I can’t believe I haven’t tried it until today!!

[uncut creek]

it certainly is

[buoyant estuary]

Agreed, I'm McLovin' it.

[uncut creek]

I remember beating it nightmare deathless

[silk dawn]

I beat my first master level that being the super gore nest

I did it on ultra violence and I was somehow able to beat it first try

[uncut creek]

well done, now do it on ultra nightmare

[azure forum]

Good job son, that can be a challenging master level. They are really fun to play, but they can always become frustrating at some point. I'm sure you'll beat the remaining ones as well

[empty basin]

Personally I recommend this order for the modern Master Levels based on their difficulty

Super Gore Nest ➝ Mars Core ➝ The World Spear ➝ Taras Nabad

there's Cultist Base and Arc Complex but they were game release Master Levels and are easier than Super Gore Nest

[vale estuary]

playing the dlc now fun

[raw harbor]

I hate Taras nabad

[silk dawn]

Every time I would finish an arena I would get ambushed by like a bunch of super heavy demons and buff totems so the only reason I beat it was cause of the energy shield for the chaingun to if it didn’t exist I probably would had a harder time

[raw harbor]

Too many marauders

[dim plume]

I'm on the taras nabad Kahn makr boss fight any tips for beating him?I'm on hurt me plenty difficulty

[glossy warren]

lock on shreds her health
have meathook in a good hotkey or if you play on console and dont have hotkeys just have good switching mechanics
the fight turns into floor-is-lava on later stages, so meathooking on the drones she spawns will help a lot

[little copper]

personally i think marauders are the absolute coolest. its refreshing to have an enemy of slightly more equal ability

[raw harbor]

The dogs are such a pain tho lol

[little copper]

agreed. just gotta be snappy with your super shotgun and ballista and youll be fine

[raw harbor]

Anyway time to now start ultra nightmare

Just finished the collectible achievement run

[azure oriole]

yo same, it was my first master level i played

[azure oriole]

precision bolt is better

well depends by your aim, at this point stickies and you are cool

[weak cosmos]

id agree but the corriodor arena where you have to fight like 3 of them in a row is just an absolute slog seeing as if they are on the steps the actions they perform bug out every time

[dim plume]

Thanks man

[woven lichen]

Anyone know the best gun for the icon of sin?

Nvm i beat it

[bronze zodiac]

i dont have any experience with FPS before but i picked up doom 2016 a month ago and now onto eternal

On ultra violence on my first playthrough atm and so far i feel trouble doing like side dash and things. Is there any keybind that improve it cuz i use default one

[full wagon]

Ever tried the 5 marauder Easter egg?

[full wagon]

Best level

[full wagon]

I use shift. And ESDF movement

[bronze zodiac]

abit ambition from my end but i want to atleast finish on nightmare and extra life nightmare on the game + the 2 DLC

idk if i can try master +nightmare tho

[full wagon]

Or UN even
You’d be surprised how you progress as a player

[bronze zodiac]

i dont have any FPS experience like my first exp being halo a year ago

my most hated enemies so far being archville and snek

[full wagon]

One huge thing with UN is learning what comes next. But it’s still crucial to be able to adapt on the fly

[bronze zodiac]

i pick up FPS solely cuz a friend of mine saying "you scared to do it dude?" kinda funny ngl

[bronze zodiac]

am at the end of ultra violence on the original one. will start on the ancient gods as well prob this week

[pliant zealot]

wait is super gore nest the easiest one? 😭

bruh my game crashed half way through my classic mode nightmare run for super gore nest WHYYYY

[full wagon]

Arc and cultist are easiest and oldest

[pliant zealot]

figured that

[full wagon]

they’re more “traditional” levels, the level itself isn’t as modified with traps and hazards like new ones, and they aren’t as different arena wise

[pliant zealot]

i mean from the modern ones.

is it not possible to play cultist without pre order dlc?

[full wagon]

Unless you mod it in some way I do not believe so

UNLESS you get the rip n tear pack

that’s where it’s at now.

[pliant zealot]

understood, is it worth the $5?

[full wagon]

By todays standards it’s not much. Especially if you have PC mod access. If not you could get it just to have the full experience. But it’s not that crazy nowadays

[pliant zealot]

im on pc yeah

ill have to look modding it in.

i fear whoever made the super gore nest master level likes carcasses a little too much

[full wagon]

that would be jason oconnell, he also made taras nabad (it was in production early on, likely changed with time) as well as the 5 marauder easter egg

ex lead level designer, hes since left Id

[pliant zealot]

i see

[young mango]

I think it’s absurd how at the time the 5 marauder Easter egg was such a send off, but now with modern tech metas and stuff and master level mods to test peoples skills it’s actually become kinda normal

[full wagon]

to most players its still a lot, youtuber skills skew things
plus it wasn't discovered til a lot later

May 10, 2021 aroundabout

and it was out with tag2, so not that long after actually

[young mango]

I’d beg to differ fighting the two marauders in the Taras Nabad ML in the circle room is harder because you have enemies hitting their shields and it’s a cramped arena, with the 5 marauders you have a meathook mode and a lot of room to move around

[full wagon]

yeesh yeah that one

forest fight + 5 marauders together is cool but its so wide open

[pliant zealot]

damn

i keep crashing and im not really sure why

[full wagon]

alt tabbing out without doing alt enter first

[pliant zealot]

nah its not that

i crashed mid fight

i doubt its my pc struggling to run it as i can run at consistent 165fps

anyone got a clue why this could be happening?

[empty basin]

for the more modern Master Levels yeah, otherwise there's the Cultist Base and Arc Complex MLs like what me and Allstin said

[small helm]

Man I'm playing TAG1 on UV and I'm being harshly reminded how intense these arenas are, good stuff

[safe island]

bro why do i keep crashing

this game is well optimised though

120+ fps on ultra nightmare everything at 1440p on a 3060 and it looks real good

[full wagon]

Hitting alt tab without alt enter first

[safe island]

i tried alt tab it just froze for a second and went black but my other monitor was fine

i had to close it with task manager

[steady grotto]

just bought the deluxe edition

this game's insanely fun (i die more in the campaign than i do in horde mode)

[ocean sage]

As the days pass it brings me closer to killing myself, my life is so miserable there are times I try to kill myself but stop I don't know why, sometimes I just wanna snap my neck, it's mostly miserable because of how people bully me all the time

[steady grotto]

damn

[ocean sage]

wanna hear a rhyme

[raw harbor]

hell on earth un completed B)

let's see how far I get

I died

[steady grotto]

punched a slayer gate and got an achievement

never been so humiliated in my life

[safe island]

🤓

[azure oriole]

epic

[raw harbor]

Not anymore lol

[pure iris]

Are the dlcs worth it for 12€?

I feel like this is the worst place to ask for a non-biased opinion but im pretty biased too tbh im just waiting for someone to give me an excuse to buy it

[small helm]

if you didn't play them or played on another platform that's enough reason imo

I previously completed them on switch on hurt me plenty and now i got it on steam and playing pc version on rog allly

(game runs beautifully at 1080p on this machine btw)

[pure iris]

I didnt

I just have the ps4/5 version and played through the campaign a couple of times(i just realized that i have 120 hours in doom and still didnt play the dlcs lmao)

[small helm]

then what are you waiting for, DLC is more interesting than base campaign but also more difficult

[pure iris]

As difficult as the master lvls or just a bit harder?

[small helm]

I started feeling ultra violence when i got to Blood Swamps

[pure iris]

I only played a single master lvl because i forgot about them and that one wasnt really fun because there was a section where you couldnt see anything and had to fight like 2 marauders iirc

[pure iris]

Played on nightmare on my first playthrough im somewhat used to suffering

[small helm]

oh you'll be fine then, DLCs like to throw marauders in pairs or outright buff them

[pure iris]

WAIT NOO-

[tacit aspen]

Lol

[small helm]

since I'm lazy i play it with gamepad but i assure double marauders aren't the worst thing you'd have to deal with

[tacit aspen]

The DLCs are fun, and the world/sky maps beautiful.

[small helm]

true

[pure iris]

The pictures in the preview looked awesome

Cant wait to finish doom 2016 and start playing them

[tacit aspen]

Before you go for Horde Mode the game really urges you to have finished the DLCs which makes sense. Monthly challenges always include Horde Mode

[pure iris]

I think ive played Horde already

[tacit aspen]

Nice!

You'll be fine then

[pure iris]

(In eternal btw)

Just want to avoid any misunderstandings because i mentioned doom 2016

[tacit aspen]

All good

[wispy raven]

What’s ur favorite level?

[slow sigil]

blood swamps

[late epoch]

is the punch tech fixed?

[slow sigil]

wdym "fixed"

[late epoch]

like i did pb then punch but then i cant do another one

[slow sigil]

did you "swap" your weapon to itself again during the punch

[late epoch]

what? i thought only to punch

[slow sigil]

nope

[late epoch]

how can i swap to itself

like press the bind again?

[slow sigil]

yeah

[late epoch]

lemme try rq

[late epoch]

also how some ppl do quickswitch incredibly fast when i does it there is somewhat a delay (i have the suit upgraded)

[slow sigil]

idk depends on how slow yours is

fps can slighhtly speed it up but not a lot

[late epoch]

oh aight

can i ask what techs are important to do uv? im trying to beat it

[slow sigil]

nothing except basic movement skills\

[late epoch]

like?

[slow sigil]

strafing, being in the air, that kinda stuff

that's all what is "important" for UV

[late epoch]

oh aight ima learn while doing it i was shocked by the dmg the demons deal

[azure oriole]

What's your favorite demon in doom eternal?

Mines the
Cacodemon

[acoustic lark]

Jerry

[glossy warren]

jerry screwed jerry amazing jerry

[wispy raven]

[light urchin]

Hello everyone!!

[acoustic crescent]

Baron of hell

[trail plume]

The Tyrant and the Revenant

[azure oriole]

screecher marauder

[half hollow]

just as a question, do you need to do ALL of the bonus waves to get golden bounty hunter skin?

[static goblet]

anyone know some optimal keybinds for quick switching

[vale pebble]

Alt+F4 😂

[static goblet]

i dont see the point in using scroll wheel for weapons since that means ud have to move ur index to shoot

[sullen depot]

Someone fight me in SVS later

[young barn]

Baron of hell

[wheat vigil]

How would you have to move your index finger? Index on left click, Middle finger on scroll wheel, ring finger on right click

I personally prefer precision bolt on scroll up and ballista on scroll down since those weapons require the most precise aiming, hence you want to minimize mouse movement when quick switching between them

[static goblet]

i use middle finger for right click, as do most

[wheat vigil]

Using scroll binds will make you adapt out of that

[static goblet]

I simply use my index for scrolling as it’s comfortable just means it needs to travel which is annoying, using index and ring finger to click is inefficient bc of human anatomy

[half hollow]

design wise, probably the baron or archvile

gotta love how cool the baron looks when he takes damage

gameplay wise, probably tyrant
just a bullet sponge that lets you use every combo known to man and bully it in so many ways

[midnight bolt]

I wish Slayer vs Slayer was real

[chrome tree]

DOOM Eternal Freezing 😭 pls help

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/iBygWbK7p9Y?si=aC3nVNz-UEsB9xbl

made this video and i'm actually surprised, was always under the impression rocket punchswap was a considerable dps disadvantage but its about the same

so i might start using rockets for dps more often because splash damage

[chrome tree]

i have search on the server and found that many are facing the same issue but no one is trying to help i wonder why?

[empty basin]

well you have to provide more information first

just a blanket "the game froze" isn't gonna help anyone

like at what point does the game freeze, is this a thing that only happens recently, do you get any error messages, etc

[chrome tree]

@empty basin i apologize this is not what i mean what i mean is maybe no one has played doom eternal without have this issue i thought the problem was happen to everyone and there is a solution

[tacit aspen]

My version of Doom Eternal has never been freezing

[rich mountain]

that the game is freezing is mostly performance problem

[weak cosmos]

my favorite part about fighting marauders is how they attack cancel on slopes and can just instakill you

[empty basin]

or when posessed marauders just won't falter consistently

honestly his faltering shouldn't be based on damage received, it should just be based on whether the damage instance is from an automatic-firing weapon or not

I always use Precision Bolt nowadays to falter Marauders so it's really a pain that I can't use it for Possessed ones, and the SSG doesn't even falter consistently since the weapon has random bullet spread

[mellow trellis]

puro gringo jaja

[valid lantern]

maaaal

[vale pebble]

Huh?

[mellow trellis]

Only english, no spanish

Jajajaa

[vale pebble]

Estabas hablando español...

Hasta te reíste en español...

[mellow trellis]

Y si yo hablo español xd

[vale pebble]

Mhm ya ví

[mellow trellis]

Ya no entendí, hablas inglés o español?

[vale pebble]

Hablo los dos

Pero mi español vía texto es bien feo

[mellow trellis]

Me refiero a lengua natal

Ni siquiera se si se dice así, igual boludo yo también si me estas diciendo que tu español por texto es feo es porque hablas inglés jajaj

[vale pebble]

Mis padres son de México

Nací en los estados unidos

No soy gringa

[mellow trellis]

Aaaaa, ahí está

Alto bardo se te hizo en el slayers club jaja

[vale pebble]

Si alguien me dijo cosas raras

[mellow trellis]

Me imagino que tipo de cosas

[vale pebble]

No quisieras saber

[mellow trellis]

Tampoco puedo saber porque borraron los mensajes, así que por eso me imagino que te habrá dicho jaja

[raw harbor]

obviously

[vale pebble]

Terminaron su cuenta del server, so se borraron todos sus mensajes

[mellow trellis]

seguramente

[vale pebble]

Cuando terminan a alguien se borran todos sus mensajes automáticamente

[mellow trellis]

y si

[light urchin]

Bueno hablemos español

Quien juega battle mode en switch ???

[worthy ocean]

What

[empty basin]

oops, I might have bricked my doom eternal by trying to move my saves from one slot to another

and now all my settings are reset and all save files are gone, and this repeats itself whenever I launch the game

back to level 1 too

time to verify integrity of game files, I guess

[vale pebble]

Goodluck

[vale pebble]

Nadie aquí juega battlemode, menos en el switch. Pero halomejo puedes ir a #battlemode y buscar a alguien que si

[acoustic lark]

Lets keep it english only

[vale pebble]

I'm sorry kex, just trying to help someone 😭

[acoustic lark]

I know, but we still cant moderate languages we dont speak >.>

[sweet pond]

Is ultra-violence enemies less aggressive than Nightmare ones?

[young mango]

Yes

[sweet pond]

Then,is there a meaningful reason for me to not play nightmare for my first playthrough of eternal?

[young mango]

I mean you Can if you want, a lot of people have done that

[south grove]

i get my ass kicked a lot on nightmare in the master levels lol

[uncut cobalt]

btw why cant i go select mission on a nightmare slot?

[south grove]

tryna practice and get good

1. my aim sucks
2. my movement is also pretty bad too

i use the number hotkeys but i think doing this just has me dashing a lot less

and it impedes my movement in general. need to get a mouse with buttons on it lol

[young mango]

You can, unless you mean ultra nightmare, if you’re on nightmare it’s because you haven’t played through those levels yet

[slow sigil]

It might be too hard to the point it's a slog, which is not fun

[young mango]

Using mouse buttons to quickswap weapons might be even more inconvenient, you should try going the quake route and just use the keys around WASD

[slow sigil]

Or extra lives mode

[uncut cobalt]

yeah but i did complete the nightmare slot but it doesnt work should i do something?

[young mango]

Was it extra lives mode like luci suggested?

[south grove]

i would but after 2 years of playing this i honestly would have to get so used to it lol

[slow sigil]

Even after complition of ultranightmare or extra lives mode you can't use mission select

[young mango]

I feel that, that’s why I’ve only made minor adjustments to my keybinds over times

[uncut cobalt]

oooh aight thx

[sweet pond]

i'am not doin' UN now.

just nightmare would be enough to teach dodging damage and stuff.

[sweet pond]

How much default keybindings suck?

[young mango]

Eh not much but 7 for chaingun and 8 for bfg is just absurd

[sweet pond]

Hmh.
Gonna rebind chaingun for.. something else.
I highly doubt that i will remember using it.and unbind bfg

[azure oriole]

I have s for shotgun and d for precision bolt lol

[azure oriole]

Chaingun is op just keep the shield for emergencies

It is your only protection

[mighty drum]

Anyone interested in mp achievements?

[slow sigil]

no not really, not even legit

i do

google says it's in urdak

[sullen depot]

Go to cheat codes on the level select

[static goblet]

what binds yall use for quickswap? more specifically ssg, hc, rl and ballista

[vale pebble]

Weapon wheel

[static goblet]

hell nah

[vale pebble]

I'm a console player mb

[static goblet]

unless u console thats not quick

[static goblet]

yhhh fairs

[vale pebble]

Just find whatever your comfortable with

just mess around with them for a while

[static goblet]

trying to but nothing seems comfortable

[vale pebble]

Level select...

[static goblet]

ive put 3 weapons on the mouse unsure what to do with the 4th

[vale pebble]

Level select appears when you open a save slot

It only shows levels you've done in that specific save

[pine imp]

[azure oriole]

Are you on ps4? If you delete mission info, you can get a weapon bind. Also L3 is unused so u can use that too

[vale pebble]

Im on Xbox and yeah I know about that but I prefer the weapon wheel since I'm much more comfortable with it

[empty basin]

didn't work lol, trying to reinstall rn

[unborn adder]

Is it me or is the online service just barely working today for DOOM Eternal?

[young mango]

It’s everybody

[unborn adder]

Thanks for letting me know :>

[nimble vapor]

I’m gonna buy ancient gods while it’s on sale

But what’s the best doomsayer outfit for you guys? I love the doom 2 marine and the biker

[unborn adder]

I have a fondness for Sentinel, mostly because I love the medieval look.

[dreamy oriole]

Im stuck in Doom Eternal - Cultist Base - Elevator Piston like thing... the hit the button, shoot the button across the way ... jump to monkey bar, to dash to climb... it is really tough.. any advice is appreciated.

[unborn adder]

Do you mean this? https://youtu.be/4nuqfYqWh7A?si=f7sG_6gADxXS-9pR

Grabbing the wall is difficult but possible. Keep trying!

[dreamy oriole]

Ya man, so hard

Spent an hour on it last night

[unborn adder]

Oh damn

Maybe it will go better today. Sometimes you need a personal "reset" break before continuing the game.

[weak cosmos]

is there a better way to not blood punch and just glory kill cuz it has ruinned a few of my un runs and im kinda loosing it

[young mango]

It’s always been buggy as hell

[weak cosmos]

so no consistent way?

[edgy briar]

Does anyone have any ultra nightmare tips??

[weak cosmos]

outside of dont die?

[unborn adder]

Yeah uh

Don't die lol

Don't take unnecessary risks, keep your health and shield up as much as possible, be sure to know what you are about to encounter before getting there.

[tardy beacon]

I refuse to play on the hardest difficulty, unless I’m so addicted to a game that I go for it.

[unborn adder]

I was very determined to finish on Nightmare but I just couldn't

[empty basin]

holy shit I managed to recover everything somehow by resolving steam cloud conflict on the steam launcher

never trying to mess with savefiles ever again

also btw what's the point of the bethesda.net account linking if your doom eternal profile level is saved locally? I was at like level 200+ on my old laptop but it's back to level 1 when I started on my new pc

[young mango]

Well that’s not supposed to happen because steam cloud save file, that should only happen when you switch between platforms

[random vault]

so you can get the zombie skin

[lucid siren]

I dunno I mean I had the Conan skin for so long but the I switched to the white Makyr skin.

[sweet pond]

that's just cheesy.

[empty basin]

I know that it's probably just my steam cloud not working somehow, but still, save files are one thing but stuffs like profile really seem like something that should be stored server-side

[edgy briar]

Holy shit cultist base sucks ass

[unborn adder]

Dude for real haha

[edgy briar]

Real

[bronze zodiac]

do you guys have any advice for icon of sin ? i beat it but i feel phase 1 is so much more volatile than phase 2 idk wat to do with it

Sometimes i just die cuz the dude hit something opposite side of the map

[vale pebble]

It's easy

Just shoot it and crucible any heavy demons that get in the way

[bronze zodiac]

sometimes it decide to be an ass and spawn a bunch of baron and cyber mancubi

maybe i should try to optimize keybind cuz i been doing default keybind till now ....i only weapon switch like back when i do 2016 with mouse wheel

idk how the heck i got through nightmare with it but i did. idk about TAG 1 and 2 tho

[bronze zodiac]

do you guys have reccomendation on the keybind? My apologize cuz doom is like my first FPS ever (usually i do turn base) so it kinda learning curve atm

[vale pebble]

I don't play on keyboard so I can't help you on that one

[empty basin]

This is my keybinds
Firearms

• 1 = Combat Shotgun
• 2 = Super Shotgun
• 3 = Plasma Rifle
• 4 = Heavy Cannon
• R = Chaingun
• F = Rocket Launcher
• C = Ballista

Misc

• Q = Melee/Glory Kill/Blood Punch
• E = Chainsaw
• T = BFG/Unmaykr
• G = Switch Weapon Mods
• X = Crucible/Sentinel Hammer
• Left Shift = Dash
• Left Ctrl = Flame Belch
• MOUSE4 = Frag Grenade/Ice Bomb
• MOUSE5 = Switch Grenades

I like to keep everything close to my left hand
the default keybind having weapons on 5, 6 and 7 is just way too far to reliably reach

Though obviously you'd better try to make whatever's comfortable for you

[bronze zodiac]

i really struggle to fight cuz it feel so weird the grenade on left ctrl killing me. Thank you tho

First time playing FPS and i decided to do doom 2016 and eternal cuz a friend just provoke me "do it you wont" with a smug kinda weird

[empty basin]

lmao, hopefully you've been having a blast

[bronze zodiac]

oh absolutely it gives quite a thrill. tho nightmare TAG 1 and 2 prob gonna kick my butt

[empty basin]

I'm sorry to say that playing 2016 and Eternal as your first 2 FPS games may ruin a lot of the other FPS games on the market for you, lol

[bronze zodiac]

my most hated enemy so far prob the archville and the snek

[bronze zodiac]

well i dont mind playing any game as long as it is good and doom sure is a good one. i dont mind re-learn things

[empty basin]

oh yeah the repeated knockback is really annoying to deal with, also applies to Carcasses too to an extent

I usually always save an Ice Bomb for Archviles, though this would require you to know if they even spawn on the encounter or not, thus involving at least dying once

[bronze zodiac]

also is empowered enemies are random? i got some nasty surprise with that

[empty basin]

yeah they are random

[full wagon]

Yes 100%

[full wagon]

The keys you use most like weapons are closest to your movement keys

[bronze zodiac]

i still cant figure how people can switch so fast still. took me like 4-5 hitstun to kill marauder while people just murder him in one

at TAG1 mission 1 atm and the battles are getting longer which i dont mind honestly

[feral nymph]

rip and tear

[full wagon]

Start slow and get the rhythm and speed up. And have good keybinds

[feral nymph]

i just beat doom on nightmare

on xbox

i am going to try ultra nightmare

[bronze zodiac]

Yeah I only play like 20h so far i think I should get used to it more after some more time

[empty basin]

It's also worth noting that different weapons have different switching speeds

[feral nymph]

should i buy the dlc

[empty basin]

For example, switching between Super Shotgun and Ballista is slower than between Heavy Cannon and Rocket Launcher

[empty basin]

If the gameplay from the base game was really enjoyable to you, then go for it

[full wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/yep-best-friends-did-we-gif-22719433

[feral nymph]

k

[young mango]

Ssg ballistic also deals slightly more damage if you’re point blank

[empty basin]

unfortunately it's kinda hard to stay at point-blank range for more than 2 seconds

[sullen depot]

Soup shot

[vital ravine]

Why do glory kills on archviles just plain feel better

[inland widget]

Because they make you want to tear your hair out

[vital ravine]

Not really

I find them really easy to deal with and if I don’t kill them for a solid second it’s just an extra challenge for ya

[empty basin]

Because they are high-priority targets, their glory kill animations are also a lot more expressive compared to most other demons

the left-side glory kill (the one where you stomp its head) is one of my favorites

since you can clearly see the regret on its face

[pliant zealot]

its almost like the crucible was MADE for the archvile

[violet kayak]

is that the demon that makes the demons red

since i wanna brutally slice its limbs off 1 by one and skin it with the little wrist blade

they are so annoying

like bro nobody asked you to make a pain elemental mf buffed af

[midnight sparrow]

It summons demons. Red demons are caused by the Buff Totems

[violet kayak]

oh

for me it makes the demons red too

[random fern]

The expressions of terror and fear on the Archvile’s face everytime is the best part for me

[vital ravine]

Probably was in mind when creating the crucible but I just typically use a lock on rocket launcher for them

7 rockets is enough to kill

[vital ravine]

The one where you stomp it’s face really shows that

[pliant zealot]

true

[vital ravine]

I only ever pull anything fancy out if it starts teleporting while I’m trying to kill it

[vital ravine]

There’s a one where the archvile tries to smack you to which you respond by putting the doom blade through its head

[random fern]

Yeah, embarrassingly enough it’s not the archvile that isn’t a pain but rather whiplashes and prowlers

[vital ravine]

Prowlers are a free glory kill for me

[vital ravine]

Pinky’s and whiplashes are the ones that get me

[random fern]

I have slight issues with specters because I’m always using meathook to go air borne which limits their visibility even more

[vital ravine]

Spectres are easy to deal with for me cuz usually the whiplash spectres are just sorta… bad

And then the spectre pinky’s typically only take 1 ssg shot to the head before you can glory kill them

I swapped to a different skin than the doomicorn skin and the doom blade just looks weird now

[random fern]

An issue with myself is that I realize that I don’t really use the chainsaw frequently

[vital ravine]

I either use it to get a fodder demon out my way or if I’m low on ammo

Which isn’t really often ngl cuz I don’t just use the ssg ballista combo like i used to

[random fern]

I barely even let myself perform most glorykills neither because I’ve already shot the tyrant two times with the ssg before I could process that they were staggered

[vital ravine]

Thinking about it though I can’t remember the last time I used the unmaykr or heavy cannon lmao

[random fern]

heavy cannon used to be my barely used weapon, now it’s the plasma rifle

[vital ravine]

I occasionally use the plasma rifle for the shockwave or I’m very generously removing the heavy armour of the barons

[random fern]

Yeah sometimes I get twitchy when aiming at the heavy armor baron’s mace that I just decide to shoot at it regularly

[vital ravine]

I forgot you could even do that lmao

[random fern]

yeah but given the amount of blinking the baron does it just continues to bait me lol

i find it hilariously how always pissed off the revenants are even when you glory kill them

[vital ravine]

I like to think the demons don’t have emotions

Not for any morality purpose but just cuz it’s a bit pointless thinking about it

Give me a rough estimate on how many Demons you have killed in this game

[random fern]

that’s true but the constant screaming from the revenant just annoys me

[slow sigil]

Pointless to think about =/= it doesn't exist

[random fern]

fuck like in total since I first got the game?

[vital ravine]

Ye how much you reckon you have killed

[vital ravine]

Ig

[random fern]

I don’t think it’s too high but my guts say roughly 5,465

Around there

[vital ravine]

You’ve without a doubt done more than that

I estimate mines somewhere in the hundreds of thousands

[random fern]

yeah probably, I just don’t see myself doing more than 10k

[vital ravine]

How many hours do you have on this game?

[random fern]

it’s funny, so I got DE when it came out but I only played for a month before I just stopped. But 2 and a half weeks ago, I got back on it

so it’s like 56 hours

[vital ravine]

I just got back into it today after like a 2 month break

[random fern]

and playing for a month isn’t long when I just played for a couple minutes

[vital ravine]

You’ve probably killed less than 100k but more than 20k then

[midnight sparrow]

Maybe not emotion but I do like to believe that some demons have a level of intelligence. A lot of them seem to be acting on instinct alone like an animal. Though it makes sense to me for demons like Archviles and Summoners to display some kind of intelligence due to there abilities and being sort of support demons

[random fern]

Given the amount of ultra nightmare attempts, I’d say that’s pretty on point

[vital ravine]

They all have a level of intelligence but a lot of them are acting of a lot of instinct

I think they can understand human speech

[vital ravine]

I’ve only tried ultra nightmare once or twice since I have never found nightmare fun at all

[midnight sparrow]

I don’t an Imp can understand human speech. Or a Hell Knight. If anything I would say only Dark Lords (and a few other exceptions) can understand human speech

[random fern]

Nightmare just gets easier the more upgraded your slayer gets so

[young mango]

I’d say the campaigns kind of a bell curve and kind of peaks it’s easiness at mars core

[vital ravine]

Hell knights probably can’t but I would think that based on how imps act they are surprisingly intelligent compared to demon standards

[vital ravine]

I’ve played both ancient gods on nightmare and it was an ugh experience

[pliant zealot]

did you know there is an invisible wall that prevents you from meathooking to an archvile on super gore nest master level

i tried and got owned because of it 😭

[random fern]

Getting the gold combat shotgun was not a fun experience

[pliant zealot]

nonsense

[random fern]

ngl I just slightly dislike super gore nest

[vital ravine]

I’m not looking forward to getting that when I eventually get the courage

[pliant zealot]

hope you like carcasses

because holy shit theres a lot

[random fern]

carcasses I can deal with

[vital ravine]

The final arena in basically all master levels are just really good

[random fern]

but I don’t like the sprectre whiplashes

[pliant zealot]

yeah the last arena is fun

[vital ravine]

Truthfully if I could I would just grind out the mars core final arena

Mars core master level that is

[pliant zealot]

havent played

ngl the hardest arena in my opinion for the SGN master level is the double cyber manc room

or the first fog room

[midnight sparrow]

Only demons I believe can understand humans (to a degree) are Doom Hunters, Sabaoth, Commandos, Cyberdemon (to an extent), Aranea Imperatrix, Spider Mastermind, Maledict, and Davoth

[pliant zealot]

marauder? 💀

[vital ravine]

Icon of sin can as well

[empty basin]

Visual-wise, Mars Core's final arena is the best out of all of them

[midnight sparrow]

Oh yeah him to

[vital ravine]

Marauders aren’t demons if I’m not mistaken

[empty basin]

I freaked out in awe when I saw the visual change

it wasn't much, but it was still really cool to see

[pliant zealot]

its a technicality.

[midnight sparrow]

Maybe the Eternal version possibly. Not the original though

[random fern]

Hardest part for me was escaping the sgn because I have a bad sense of direction and the two marauders chasing me aren’t helping

[pliant zealot]

literally the only demon that speaks fluent english in the base game LMAO

[midnight sparrow]

They are. Corrupted by Hell energy. There demons

[vital ravine]

I mean technically aren’t they the same?

[empty basin]

lol yeah whenever I play SGN ML, the part where I die the most is always the escape part

just try to avoid everyone basically, don't bother trying to kill unless necessary

[vital ravine]

I consider it to be that you need to be hell born to be classed as a demon in doom

[pliant zealot]

technically all could given they understand the hell priests that speak english?

[vital ravine]

Oh yea the hell priests speak to the demons in English

[random fern]

That’s what I do, but I would always just turn in a weird direction then just give up and let the sgn explode

[midnight sparrow]

No. The one in Eternal is technically powered by/ is Valens son. They used his heart to resurrect and more or less reincarnate him AS the Icon.

[vital ravine]

Fair

Wait I’m just realising how Tf did the slayer get his ass on sentinel prime

[empty basin]

a freakout slipgate, I suppose

[pliant zealot]

insert obligatory samuel hayden quote here

[empty basin]

it was just happenstance, maybe

[pliant zealot]

vega shenanigans i suppose

or something along those lines

better question is how did he LEAVE lmao

[vital ravine]

Another thing is how did humans manage to get vega

[pliant zealot]

i haven't played DLC

[vital ravine]

Think he nicked a ship from the maykrs or something

[midnight sparrow]

Like most things he teleported there cause he can just do that now I guess

[pliant zealot]

btw so spoiler something if TAG spoilers

[empty basin]

Hayden brought The Father's core

[random fern]

Did the Intern really play an important role besides being a human replacement for Vega

[pliant zealot]

nevermind i guess LMAO

[empty basin]

this is something that's already implied from the base campaign, specifically the Urdak level

[pliant zealot]

yeah i was wondering about that quote

i guess i know now

[empty basin]

nah he's just there as an operator sidekick and lore expositions

[vital ravine]

Fuck yes he did my guy is easily the best character in the entirety of doom

[midnight sparrow]

Intern seems like a guy I could have a chill time with

[empty basin]

He's just a big fan of the Slayer

[vital ravine]

I wonder why he was never given a name

[empty basin]

not a major character in the grand scheme of things

[midnight sparrow]

He’s also not a coward like everyone else on that ship

[vital ravine]

Yep

[pliant zealot]

the BFG10000 sounds like the least practical weapon of all time

[random fern]

Yeah the intern is like the only dude who doesn’t think the slayer would rip his head off

[pliant zealot]

in hindsight

[empty basin]

I think he's just too hyped about helping the Slayer to notice that he's basically carrying a universe-destroying time bomb

[vital ravine]

Yep space weaponry is a rather stupid ass idea

[pliant zealot]

unless you can snipe the icon from orbit its kinda useless LMAO (not like it would do anything 💀 )

[random fern]

I still have no idea how the bfg 9000 works, he just ripped the joystick off of it then used it like a gun

[midnight sparrow]

It was shooting at something before the Slayer yoinked it. I’m wondering what it was shooting AT. Cause they had smaller turrets to deal with stray Cacodemons and stuff

[vital ravine]

Did Hayden tell him about urdak and how to get there or something cuz I have no clue how he knew about that

[pliant zealot]

i could say titans but we both know that it wouldnt do shit

[empty basin]

No one knows really, there's no hints on the matter

My best guess is that it's not shooting at one giant entity, but rather a swarm of flying demons

[random fern]

The big portal at the end of nekravol

[vital ravine]

I mean the guy inside the bfg pod might have been in hysterics or something soooo

[random fern]

The area where the two titans were stabilizing

[midnight sparrow]

Yeah that and I doubt there was a Titan floating in space.

[pliant zealot]

true

man im tired, im just speaking gibberish sorry

[vital ravine]

No a portal was created from the uac ship into urdak somehow

[empty basin]

Hayden's information about Urdak and other places is shared on the ARC carrier

[midnight sparrow]

I would be to if the human race was on the verge of extinction lmao

And I’m piloting the biggest gun ever made

[empty basin]

the Intern mentioned "Hayden's files were extensive, and the ARC recorded all of it", meaning that he and the other people on the ship had access to his files

[random fern]

Urdak ambience is crazy trippy though

I could just stop and listen to the background noise

[pliant zealot]

is it ever explained how the slayers guns can hurt demons, but its implied that other weaponry from humans cant? 💀

or have extreme difficulty doing so

[vital ravine]

And the place you currently are is being overrun by demons and the doom slayer jsut sorts showed up

[midnight sparrow]

Depends on the demon. Also not all humans are as strong or resilient as Doomguy

[empty basin]

ngl while I do like the theme ingame, I absolutely hate it when listening to the soundtrack on a music player and whatnot

I got traumatized from the game's official album release, which mixes were... of questionable quality, in some parts

so it made me hate Urdak's theme when not ingame and I have yet to recover from it

[vital ravine]

I think lore wise the doom slayer doesn’t use guns

[midnight sparrow]

Would hate to be an ARC soldier. Would also hate to be a UAC soldier

[vital ravine]

In the game he does but if it were a story not a game I think it would be he doesn’t use guns

[midnight sparrow]

I would hate to be a human in Doom period

[pliant zealot]

true

[midnight sparrow]

Actually I’d hate to be in Doom at all

[random fern]

Yeah I heard from somewhere that the doom slayer doesn’t need guns but uses them for fun?? If

Hence the berserk power up but that’s a power up

[empty basin]

Really? I'm pretty sure normal human weaponry still can hurt demons, it's just that their numbers are too massive for the humans to deal with.

It doesn't matter if you kill 100 demons when there's 1000 others marching in

[pliant zealot]

a funny april fools joke would just be having an infinite arena

[midnight sparrow]

Misinformation. He’s always used guns. Power ups like Berserk aren’t his “lore accurate strength” Berserk is merely gameplay only I believe

[pliant zealot]

that would happen 1/100 runs

[empty basin]

He does use guns, and the ammo for it is obtained by killing his enemies which magically replenishes him

[random fern]

Guns are fun anyhow so I don’t blame him using them even if he didn’t have to

[midnight sparrow]

Yeah they are

[empty basin]

Using guns is just way more efficient than just the Crucible's short range

[pliant zealot]

doom power scaling is all over the place bruh

[empty basin]

It's more like the lore isn't very well-structured

A lot of the times when the lore tries to add in details, it just adds more confusion

[random fern]

What was that blue glowing stuff that surged throughout the dead titan’s body when the doom slayer retrieved the handle for his crucible?

[pliant zealot]

i love lore being exclusively from collectables

[empty basin]

Like for example, ||why does The Dark Lord have the ritual combat thing when he's the creator of all things, lol|| (TAG2 spoiler)

[random fern]

I should read the codex more

[pliant zealot]

me when a combat shotgun can harm literal gods

bc fuck it i suppose

[empty basin]

Not sure, it's probably the Titan awakening for a split second with the blue glow being its life force, before it gets sealed again from the Crucible's blade

There's no clear explanation for it

[random fern]

Yeah that’s what i thought too but not much evidence was there

[pliant zealot]

probably just magic or something cancelling out the immortality or something like that

happened with the icon as well iirc

[empty basin]

tbh the whole "needing Crucible to be on the Titan or else it will awaken again" thing is so stupid lol

like how does the other Titans apart from the Dreadnought (the one on Taras Nabad) and the Icon of Sin die then?

[pliant zealot]

titans realm in doom 2016 lmao

[empty basin]

There's a bunch of other dead Titans on the background of Blood Swamps, The World Spear also had a lot of them on its ocean

It was definitely just an excuse for them to give the Slayer a cool sword in the 3rd act of the story (which, to be fair, is a really cool sword), but again like I said, it tried adding details and just creates more confusion

[random fern]

The Sentinel hammer noises are pretty cool I’ll be honest

[midnight sparrow]

Power scaling is stupid to begin with

[pliant zealot]

fair

[random fern]

Also sorry for the late ass reply but didn’t one of the sentinel knights say that they found doom guy outside of the walls and decided to bring him in during a flashback?

[pliant zealot]

he's in your walls

[vital ravine]

Ye but that doesn’t explain how he got on the planet in the first place

[random fern]

Ohh the planet yeah I’m stumped

[next kiln]

He got lost idk, it's not really explained i think

[slow sigil]

Randomly teleported there sometimes after d64

[midnight bolt]

I wish this game had multiplayer

[slow sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890909009526267935/1179713591386062848/maxresdefault.png?ex=657ac8e6&is=656853e6&hm=1690351ca4cc1b2b3fa7effee75aa18dee4882c6f550de9dfef9d86d13f094ce&

[empty basin]

True, if only someone would mod such a thing :clueless:

[half hollow]

battlemode

[midnight bolt]

Real

[strange gale]

🛌 💤

trouble in terrorist town better

[strange gale]

that's enough time to kill any single non-boss enemy

[trim beacon]

Does doom eternal have like a launch log or a crash dump of some kind so i can figure out why the f its not launching at all

[empty basin]

I think C:\Users\pc\Saved Games\id Software\DOOMEternal\base\crashes is it?

[trim beacon]

welp dont even have the DoomEternal Folder in it, guess the game doesnt even load long enough to create it

[empty basin]

have you tried googling it or searching on youtube?

[trim beacon]

yep

nothing so far

[empty basin]

try closing steam then open it as administrator 🤔

[trim beacon]

tried

[empty basin]

did the game work fine before? or is this your first time launching the game?

[trim beacon]

i last played it in 2021 this is the first launch since then

[empty basin]

was it on a different pc? or did you uninstall the game before?

[trim beacon]

I believe it was on the same pc im not entirely sure, I reinstalled the game yesterday and have been trying to find a fix since

[empty basin]

maybe there's an issue with your steam cloud or something 🤔 check your steam settings

[trim beacon]

I do have the required specs,
Ryzen 5 5600x, RTX 4070, 32gb ram

[trim beacon]

alr testing

Deactivated the Steam cloud, didnt really do anything still crashes after like 5sec

[empty basin]

I assume you've tried verifying the integrity of game files already

[trim beacon]

yep

reinstalled the game aswell

[empty basin]

do you have any of your hardware overclocked?

[trim beacon]

nope

[empty basin]

and I assume you've tried updating your graphics driver too, ugh honestly I got nothing after that

[trim beacon]

updating, downgrading and updating again

I've tried so many things already

I've contacted bethesda support maybe they can help

[empty basin]

last thing I got
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/fm4f6w/if_doom_eternal_is_crashing_on_launch_pc_try_this/

[trim beacon]

nop didnt work

I only get to the Bethesda Logo and it crashes

[tacit aspen]

Recommend PC specs

64-bit Windows 10Intel Core i7-6700K or better, or AMD Ryzen 7 1800X or better

You have the Ryzen 5

[trim beacon]

the ryzen 5 5600x is better than the ryzen 7 1800x

by about 30-40% better

[tacit aspen]

I wonder, it should work with your system, you have the minimum? Weird

[trim beacon]

I should be able to run the game at max settings but it doesnt even want to start

[tacit aspen]

Which Windows version?

[trim beacon]

Currently on WIndows 10 Pro on version 22H2

[tacit aspen]

Bethesda support page says this

Updated Recommended Spec (from what is printed on the PC box)

We’ve increased the resolution from 1080p/60 FPS at High Quality settings to 1440p at High quality settings and have added in support for some additional GPUs at 1080p/60 FPS.
We’ve also reduced the system RAM requirements from 16GB to 8GB.
In order to hit higher performance targets, we removed the Ryzen 5 CPU and added specific i7 and Ryzen 7 CPU model numbers.
Recommended Specs listed on the PC box will still work as advertised.
Added current gen NVIDIA GPUs that also meet the recommended spec performance requirements.

https://help.bethesda.net/#en/answer/49836

So, is Ryzen 5 still supported or not

[trim beacon]

it should still meet the minimum specs

[cobalt falcon]

my 5600 works fine at 1440p dlss quality

definitely not a cpu issue

[trim beacon]

figured

im gonna try moving it to a different drive maybe that'll do anything

[tacit aspen]

Is your Windows "healthy"? I used to use FixWin to check for problems

[trim beacon]

good question

[cobalt falcon]

is this your first time launching the game on this computer?

[trim beacon]

its the first time after about 2 years

[cobalt falcon]

could be a driver issue

[trim beacon]

but it shouldnt be the first time on this pc

no no i've updated pretty much every driver there is to update

I didnt use any updating tools as they cause a lot of trouble most of the time

[tacit aspen]

Anyway, FixWin is free to download, it's a tool which has helped me a lot of times. Maybe try it.

[trim beacon]

I'll check it out, ty

[tacit aspen]

Other than that I found it could be an issue with your anti-virus software, are Doom Eternal and Steam added to the exclusion list?

[cobalt falcon]

if i was you I'd use ddu and install a fresh set of drivers

it's not hard really

[trim beacon]

ddu?

[tacit aspen]

On Steam someone found a solution for themselves

Solution: I deleted iCue (Corsair's program) Search the programs that can block steam or doom. I had this problem for 2 days I tried eveything I can just when I am about to give up and refund, I thought wait a second, I had this same problem with ow too and I deleted iCue (Corsair's program) It worked! Give it a go!

Copy / paste what they wrote

[trim beacon]

worth a shot

I've heard iCue likes messing around with some stuff

[tacit aspen]

I've never heard of it, lol

[trim beacon]

friend of mine had an issue and resolved it by uninstalling icue

[tacit aspen]

Hope this helps.

[trim beacon]

if it doesnt I'll try uninstalling and reinstalling my display drivers

holy shit it worked lmao

nvm

[tacit aspen]

Nice, what did you do?

@trim beacon How did you make it work?

[trim beacon]

nono it didnt work

I thought it did bc it loaded like a second more than before

[tacit aspen]

Shit

[trim beacon]

currently fresh installing my gpu drivers

[eager prairie]

Yo

I need help

[tacit aspen]

Might be a good idea to clean up your registry too

[trim beacon]

complete fresh install of drivers done im testing it now

worked

[trim beacon]

It was faulty drivers, ty

[signal sphinx]

Does this game need a sequel

[vale pebble]

No

[signal sphinx]

Why

[vale pebble]

It doesn't need one

The slayer is literally in a coffin 💀

Bro is gone now

[slow sigil]

series can still definitely continue

[gentle ocean]

Comrade sechenov in doom

[vital ravine]

How?

[slow sigil]

doomguy doens't have.... a whole lot of personal interconnections

[vital ravine]

Wait wait wait

Next doom game we play as intern

[slow sigil]

having someone else be the protagonist really wouldn't be that wild, and might not even be that different either

[vital ravine]

Isn’t the whole reason we are able to do all the shit we can in doom 2016 and eternal because the slayer was given the power of Davoth?

[slow sigil]

debetable how much power it really gave

[untold lagoon]

does doom guy have demon slaves?

[vital ravine]

No

[slow sigil]

gameplay is also not at all limited by "davoth power"

like, the only thing that happens anyways is being able to push around big metal cubes with no friction

[vital ravine]

Well not exactly

Gameplay wise and lore wise he needs that power in order to even just kill demons

[slow sigil]

no?

you literally kill demons with normally made guns

[vital ravine]

In the game yes

[slow sigil]

oh and being able to use the berserk powerups according to 2016 lore

[vital ravine]

In the lore most likely not

[slow sigil]

out of game aswell

[vital ravine]

Well Idfk then

Point is without powers the doom slayer wouldn’t be able to done none of this in doom eternal

[slow sigil]

yeah, he wouldn't be able to break some breakable walls and the cubes
but gameplay wise? most things are entirely possible

you might take away glory kills but that's it

and a stamina meter

which is shitty for gameplay so that simply won't happen

[vital ravine]

If nearly 8 billion humans couldn’t but 1 angry man just walks in and fucken ends em

If I ever see a stamina meter in doom I’m not gonna be a happy bunny

[slow sigil]

those few people who actually can fight also won't have his experience, nor his equipment

the suit actually does stated shit, like absorbing the power of demons for health and ammo (not directly stated but still)

[vital ravine]

The only special equipment he had is the praetor suit and crucible

And you don’t need the crucible unless you are going against a Titan

[slow sigil]

the super shotgun is enhanced by the sentinels, and you're really underestemating the suit

it's not indestructible as some fans claim, they don't account for the fact that it's solely UAC tests that couldn't destroy it. but still fairly durable and provides with regeneration

[vital ravine]

Ik it can withstand the power of the sun without a single scratch on it

[slow sigil]

nowhere stated

[small helm]

if we go by the logic that he literally needs the power to kill the demons how do you explain all previous games

[vital ravine]

Divine intervention plain and simple

[slow sigil]

lol, lmfao

[vital ravine]

It’s not just a coincidence that davoth is literally just the doom slayer

[slow sigil]

it actually is, not even kidding

[vital ravine]

And it’s not like he just took that form it’s shown that he has always had the form of him

[slow sigil]

yeah which makes it even stupider that they just.... just so happen to look like eachother

[flint flame]

It’s not that deep

[slow sigil]

ID made a goof with tag2 story, and now davoth looks like doomguy just cause

[vital ravine]

Well yea

[half hollow]

im not that into doom lore, but wasnt the doom slayer created to literally be earths version of davoth or something?

[half hollow]

do not play doom 3

[vital ravine]

Never planned on it

[vital ravine]

Yep

[slow sigil]

no, he was just born and lived like a normal person, barring the demon invasion ofcourse. Only after doom64 did he become empowered by a shard of davoth's power, which does.... well, not much

[distant skiff]

does anyone know how i can kill an archvile that noclipped out of the map

[slow sigil]

console commands

[distant skiff]

do tell

[slow sigil]

idk if you can without modding tool installed

[distant skiff]

is there any form of esp i can use

im getting annoyed and im in horde mode

[half hollow]

oh i know what you mean

ive had that happen once before, i just kinda angrily restarted the mission

[winged depot]

Guys, i only remain to beat Taras Nabad Master Level, you know you the part where there's a Buff Totem with Cyber-Mancubi and Shield Soldiers? Well, i can't beat that part.

Does it mean i'm not good enough?

[young mango]

Just need more practice, try routing it

[young mango]

Shield soldiers are already a massive pain in the ass up close but even more so when buffed, same with cyber mancs and regular mancs which are capable of doing the same attack twice in a matter of frames, so basically the optimal strat would probably to be to immediately go to the back of the room and fire a dblade at one of the sides of the cyber mancubi, it should take out a few shield soldiers at the same time too, then you can hit it with a lock on then a ballista shot afterwards to stagger it, giving you a blood punch, meaning you can take out the next cyber mancubi, which I’d advise approaching with the chaingun shield and bloodpunching, letting your chaingun shield down, then super shotgun, and for the third one you can use your ice bomb and if you have another blood punch you can do that with another super shotgun or just do a bit of dps from a distance, preferably lock on burst, that’s the hardest part of the arena, afterwards some hell knights and stuff will spawn so you can just dblade them iirc only 4 hellnights spawn, 2 at a time

[azure oriole]

Counterpoint: The Argenta and the ARC both display an ability to kill demons. The problem is less strength and more numbers.

[random vault]

i always see argent or argenta and think argentina

[azure oriole]

The war between Earth and Hell in Eternal lasted over 12 years, and the ARC put up a seriously good fight - but they were overwhelmed by Hell essentially being capable of infinitely spawning demons.

This is where the Slayer kinda wins out. He's more efficient and doesn't get tired. A person is definitely capable of kicking demon ass without powers (Doomguy himself did it before he was the Slayer), but they can only go so far.

[empty basin]

Lol I just tried Saleem's The Holt ML Mod twice yesterday, and I died the most at the arena with respawning Shield Soldiers

My most common cause of death there wasn't the tanky Tyrants, the pressuring Barons of Hell, the zooming Possessed demons, etc. it was just some dudes with a shotgun

[vital ravine]

Would Hayden be considered an antagonist or protagonist in 2016 and eternal?

[vale pebble]

In 2016 nah since he helped the slayer but in eternal, if you played tag 1 you would know

[vital ravine]

I mean like he said wasn’t he somewhat responsible for the demons finding earth?

[vale pebble]

Yeah he was responsible

[lucid siren]

I mean you can only dash so far even in Doom Eternal, so I'm guessing it's the same principle?

[vital ravine]

I’m fairly certain you are literally just a civvie that got lucky in doom 3

Personally I consider 64 to be my doom 3

Brb gotta go get a pizza out the oven

[lucid siren]

Yeah, we didn't really know he'd be a bad apple until TAG1, but he always seemed to have an agenda of his own.

[vital ravine]

Personally I don’t think he even really cared about humanity or the slayer

[lucid siren]

I've heard people say that N64 is more of a Doom 3 to them, but do you consider Final Doom to be canon? I'd have to place FD as Doom 3 if I were to exclude the actual Doom 3.

[vital ravine]

Final doom?

[lucid siren]

Yes. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure if Final Doom fits in with the Doom 64 narrative though.

[vital ravine]

I mean I can tell you I don’t consider mighty doom to be canon but 64 is without a doubt my doom 3

[buoyant musk]

Any good ideas for a slightly quicker way to 100% doom eternal

[vital ravine]

Second favourite game for me in the doom franchise

[lucid siren]

I never played D64 until about two years ago, so naturally it wasn't something that I'd really considered until I'd actually played it for myself.

[vital ravine]

The first and second level of that game is really atmospheric for me

[vital ravine]

I don’t have a clue about that sorry

[lucid siren]

I don't really have a favourite, although Classic Doom is something that I still play on a daily basis and have done consistently since its release.

[vital ravine]

The soundtrack and backdrops of 64 are something that I really like

[lucid siren]

I like the level with the nails that shoot out of the walls in D64, I don't remember the name.

[vital ravine]

To the point where I sorta like some elements about the game that have no contribution to the game

[vital ravine]

I truthfully never really got much into classic doom

I’ve completed the first game and done a little bit of the second game

Myhouse.wad still intrigues me despite the fact I know how everything in that map works

[half hollow]

isnt final doom more of an expansion to doom 2

[vital ravine]

Anyone ever wonder what would happen if maps like that were ever ported to doom64 or even eternal or something

I don’t think a map like that would really work in eternal

[lucid siren]

I guess, in a manner of speaking.

[vital ravine]

You could make it if you wanted to but the main thing of myhouse would plain and simple not work

That being the spook element

[lucid siren]

In terms of Mighty Doom, I've not played much, but I guess it just follows the same narrative of Eternal right? I was hoping that they could've used Mighty to fill in the gaps between 2016 and Eternal, but this seems to be an unpopular opinion.

[vital ravine]

It’s said through an arc broadcast that after the events of 2016 he sorta just let things happen for the next couple of years before one day finally deciding to get off his ass and do some work

[lucid siren]

Sure, but I'd still want to know where Samuel Hayden sent him to at the end of 2016 and follow his acquisition of the Slayer Base and the occurrences leading up to him killing the first Deag at the start of the game.

[vital ravine]

Ye that’s a pretty big plot hole

All we really know is that the fortress of doom is of maykr design

Real quick can I just say how inefficient the slayers gaming set up would be

[slow sigil]

it's not really a plot hole, plot holes are things that aren't lining up
this is more a gap in knowledge

[vital ravine]

You would need extra long arm in order to use that thing and from what I can tell the slayer just has average sized arms

[vital ravine]

Potentially even a bit shorter

[lucid siren]

Yeah, Hugo played with the idea of releasing a comic filling in some of the gaps, but time went on and that was that.

[vital ravine]

Fun fact I have only read like 1 or 2 files in the pda of the game I think it’s called

So idrk how I know this much doom lore ngl

[lucid siren]

I've read all of the appendices but I'll be darned if I can remember what I read.

[slow sigil]

i've read them all, i'm a meganerd

[vital ravine]

Ye there’s no way I’m remembering all of that information when I occasionally forget how to do basic subtraction lmao

[lucid siren]

Or the codex or whatever.

I tend to watch a lot of Carlos Au/Acid Glow's stuff though.

[vital ravine]

Does anyone here listen to music while playing doom?

I play horde mode a lot and the soundtrack of the maps on that are just sorta

Well I don’t want to say bad but I don’t like em

[slow sigil]

you can only hear the same few tracks so many time

[vital ravine]

There’s some mick Gordon tracks in this game that never get old but a lot of them just get boring now

Ever since I really got into metal I can just sorta read a book while listening to some shit like slaughter to prevail

And I think I can confidently say that’s a bit heavier than doom music

I’ve been listening to the 264bpm super gore nest demo (like a remaster of it) and I really like it ngl

[lucid siren]

Some of Mick's stuff's okay but it can be a bit much after a while because it's very intense. I prefer the balance of the Classid Doom soundtrack.

[vital ravine]

I don’t think it’s to much

[lucid siren]

Despite being British, I'm really not that into metal personally.

[slow sigil]

never heard of a "britain liking metal" stereotype

[vital ravine]

I mean I don’t know if British people typically have a history of actively listening to metal

Ye I’m truthfully the only Brit I know who likes metal

[lucid siren]

Metal's a British genre, I mean it originated in Britain.

[vital ravine]

Did it?

[slow sigil]

yeah, and that means very little

[vital ravine]

Believe it or not I’ve seen people mistake break core for metal lmao

[lucid siren]

While I'm ripping and tearing I don't tend to notice the music too much, but it can be quite intense if I'm just listening for pleasure or leisure.

[vital ravine]

The thing about doom eternal for me atleast is that the screams and gun fire are normally louder than the music

I don’t really have a problem with it cuz I can still hear the music but it can get a bit annoying

Ok favourite doom eternal song?

[lucid siren]

I like Hellwalker I think.

Meathook was cool too.

[slow sigil]

i mean.... it is in the fortress so uhhh i guess

[vital ravine]

Ye meat hook is pretty good

[lucid siren]

I like Harbinger, but I much prefer the original Doom 3 intro that it was based off of.

[vital ravine]

Technically bfg division is also a doom eternal song cuz it’s in the fortress of doom

My favourite has to be the main menu theme

It seriously annoys me I can only really listen to it in the game

[lucid siren]

The one which crosses Toxin Refinery with Icon of Sin music?

Icon of Sin*

[vital ravine]

I guess?

Idk what toxin refinery is

[lucid siren]

It's the third map in the classic Knee Deep in the Dead campaign.

The Eternal intro music was basically that mixed with the Icon track from Doom 2.

[tacit aspen]

I love the demonic chanting by Eric Holloway

[vital ravine]

Like the ending part of hell on earth?

[tacit aspen]

It plays in the Demonic Citadel, yes

[vital ravine]

Aye I like that

It’s not a thing I would listen to in my free time but it is pretty good

[tacit aspen]

Same.

[harsh rivet]

how often can you use saving throw in a run
is it once per level or once per game save

a UN run

[ebon dirge]

trying to beat UN on console, any tips for the pit?

[empty basin]

It resets only after a real death, so effectively for UN run, it's a one-time use for the whole save

[harsh rivet]

alright, thanks

[azure forum]

Save 3 chainsaw pipes for it - there's one at the end of the arena before you go into the down the elevator, and another in the pit. Use the chainsaw on one of the mancs. Use the cueball for the other one and make sure you keep moving. Lock on on the whiplashes - make sure you have the faster lock on upgrade

[glossy warren]

Im sorry whats the pit again

oh the cultist base part

[vital ravine]

Why the fuck can’t I use the stroking cacodemon emoji

I’m not happy about this like

Taras nabad master level is just pretty bs ngl

[empty basin]

Are you on the medallion room?

[half hollow]

thats 2016 not eternal

[flint flame]

no discord nitro

[vital ravine]

Eh I’ll take Spotify premium over discord nitro any day of the week

[crisp urchin]

Am I the only one who doesn't enjoy eternal's combat anymore even though im good enough for nightmare

[slow sigil]

Most likely not

[crisp urchin]

Like I still die on nightmare and it's still very challenging but not in a fun way

[flat kestrel]

I have a weird problem in eternal. First of all after a loading when it says press space to continue it freezes for like a minute everytime i press space to continue. Secondly i have framedrops often (i have a 3090 and i tried putting my graphics to medium. Any ideas?

[crisp urchin]

I can't blame anything on the game itself tho

[slow sigil]

Can't keep a game fresh forever

[crisp urchin]

I only have like 80 hours in total on it but ive beaten the campaign countless times (abt 5 hours per run) and yeah it's gotten stale

[empty basin]

maybe try updating your drivers? I have AMD Radeon RX 580 and I run the game on High settings at around 60-100 FPS, so your build should be able to at least run High settings or Ultra

[empty basin]

If you've beaten the campaign countless times, then maybe it's more because you're bored of playing the same levels and encounters over and over

If you're on PC and have beaten all the game's official Master Levels already, then maybe try Master Level mods

[tiny salmon]

Playing the delta's uac atlantica master level. It made me hate blood maykr with every fibre of my being.

Any tips for easy headshots to them?

Or any other method?

[half hollow]

just wait until they decide to do their flash attack

you can also use sticky bombs if you find that easier to land

[half hollow]

i have 6 hours in the game and (pretty much) beat the campaign twice (1 normal run, 1 run for collecting everything i missed)

yeah the campaign imo is pretty boring

[narrow mist]

got the game a few days ago and i love it

thank you id software

this game even made me a friend. someone noticed me in my corner during lunch at school with my laptop playing doom eternal and asked for the controller and then we became friends and havent chatted since that moment other then sending shitposts to each other on discord every now and then

doom eternal made me a friend

idk

[tiny salmon]

Bruh, I've been playing since 2021 and have 1000 hours(probably, can't be sure because bethesda account) and I still am not bored of it, although I now play it more casually than I used to because I don't have quarantine vacation unlike back in 2021

Although I only play ML mods nowadays because I'm tired of campaign.
Even if I play campaign, it's usually a heavily modded one.

[tiny salmon]

Yeah, but any less obvious tips?

[empty basin]

Not sure I have any good tips especially since I'm staying away from any Delta levels rn, but Doom Hunter Based ML by Zandyball had a lot of Blood Maykrs as well so maybe I'm somewhat experienced on a flood of them too

Basically I'm saying to don't hyper-fixate on them too much, I guess

[burnt wave]

worsse doom lore wise game : /

[empty basin]

Instead of having your PB/Ballista out and waiting for them to do their attacks, try to deal with the other demons first while still keeping them on your screen

And see whenever you got the opportunity to headshot them

Though it is really annoying whenever you accidentally get too close and they just cancel their attack for a ground slam

[tiny salmon]

I really hate their attacks so much, they are really oppressive when they are grouped with other demons.
Espicially when there is 4 of them(as is the case with the ML in question, although it is a CBT ML so who am I to blame?)

[empty basin]

I'm trying Tormented Earth's balanced version right now and the modder only describes the level as "maybe slightly CBT" :despairge:

makes me set on never trying any actual CBT levels ever

currently stuck at the final citadel fight

[tiny salmon]

The ML I'm playing describes itself as CBT Atlantica's younger brother(I disagree as I think it doesn't compare to the hell I went through when trying CBT Atlantica)

[tiny salmon]

CBT isn't so bad if you try it.
You will probably die a lot, but you have to get used to it to enjoy it.

It's more of a test of your patience.

[tiny salmon]

(I wish there was a mod which let you continue from last checkpoint. It would make the game more accessable to people who have a job such as me.)

If there is, PLEASE let me know.

[empty basin]

yeah lol I don't think that's a good description

[empty basin]

you can sort of start from a new save and then access the level through console commands, and use give all command

[pliant zealot]

I genuinely hope whoever designed tentacle placement lost their job

[tiny salmon]

"access the level through console commands"
How?

Wait, nvm I figured it out. It's the map command.

[strange gale]

you can approach one with your chaingun shield up to kinda force out a traffic light, the reason i say "kinda" is because this isn't 100% consistent

what usually happens and what you want to happen there is they do the javelin ground slam attack, then back away into an instant traffic light

[tiny salmon]

Thanks, I'll try that.

[empty basin]

sort of figured how to do it, it's map maps/game/sp/[level name]/[level name again].map

the map names uses something similar to the classic doom

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772588531415384086/1180083163305877514/image.png

oh wait the path is a bit different for DLC it seems

DLC uses map maps/game/dlc[1 or 2]/[level name]/[level name again].map, I think?

[tiny salmon]

I just consulted the modding wiki lol(To figure it out).

[strange gale]

that syntax looks off

but you don't need the .map at the end for the game to load the expected level

[empty basin]

ah I just copied the path from Doom Hunter Based's new_campaign.decl

[tiny salmon]

For completeness, here's how you load multiplayer maps:

Celestial (Urdak) map game/pvp/pvp_bronco/pvp_bronco
Corrosion (Blood Swamps) map game/pvp/pvp_darkmetal/pvp_darkmetal
Penance (Hell) map game/pvp/pvp_deathvalley/pvp_deathvalley
Tundra (Cultist Base) map game/pvp/pvp_inferno/pvp_inferno
Forsaken (Sentinel City) map game/pvp/pvp_laser/pvp_laser
Torment (UAC Facility) map game/pvp/pvp_shrapnel/pvp_shrapnel
Stronghold (Immora) map game/pvp/pvp_sideswipe/pvp_sideswipe
Armageddon (Super Gore Nest) map game/pvp/pvp_thunder/pvp_thunder
Extraction (Mars) map game/pvp/pvp_zap/pvp_zap

[half hollow]

not really honestly

i hate the blood maykrs just as much as the next guy
the only tips i can give is just wait

[pallid lance]

Doom gave an update? What did they add

[pallid lance]

Yeah i hate blood maykrs

[teal flicker]

Death

[pallid lance]

Uhh I’m sorry but wdym by death

[teal flicker]

They added more death

[distant skiff]

oh my godd bro the possession ghosts are so annoying

they make them so durable its crazy

[late epoch]

guys why when i do the combo sticky bomb + pb there is a delay

[half hollow]

how do you get the immorian slayer skin? ive heard you get it from battlemode streaks but i dont see it anywhere

[pure iris]

Any tips for the Buffed marauder in ancient gods one(slayer gate in mission 3)? I dont have any problems killing normal marauders with fballista but this one is possesed by a blue ghost thing and spawns right after 2 doom hunters so im low on hp already

Ive only seen it once or twice but the buff version seems to be ridiculously fast, i shot it with my ssg and he recovered from the stun before i could switch to the ballista

[flat kestrel]

i have a weird problem where after a loading when it says press space to continue, it freezes for like a minute when i press space. any ideas?

[vale pebble]

Get better at quick swapping

[pure iris]

I am quick swapping all the time idk what i could improve

But im done anyway so i guess it didnt matter much

[vale pebble]

Ight gg

[vital ravine]

If you can ignore him until you can clear your surroundings and get some health

If not you need to be a bit more efficient with the doom hunters

[pure iris]

Im currently fighting ||Samuel hayden|| so im done already

[pure iris]

Just remembered that i have a bfg and the fight was over pretty soon

[vital ravine]

That fight was surprisingly easy ngl

[pure iris]

Yeah i just got to him and was surprised by his tiny health bar, is there a 2nd phase?

[vital ravine]

Mhm

It’s basically just kill some spirit demons and then jump over some lasers and kill cacos

[strange gale]

autoscroller phase 💤

[vital ravine]

Ok can we agree that on nightmare the shielded fuckers deal way to much damage?

[pure iris]

I just died to the spirit mancubus

[vital ravine]

Like I only have problems with them on nightmare

[pure iris]

The spirit fuckers or the Plasma rifle Bob-ombs?

[young mango]

just wait till this guy sees buffed mancubi

[pure iris]

I already did, didnt i?

[vital ravine]

I’ve done both ancient gods on nightmare and a couple of master levels

[pure iris]

Is there a stronger version?

[vital ravine]

?

[pure iris]

Of the spirit mancubus

[young mango]

I’ve done levels with buffed mancubi and they deal like double damage intervals it’s a crazy oversight

[strange gale]

it's been 97 years 🥹

[vital ravine]

Thing is about mancubi is that they are massive and pretty easy to kill

[young mango]

Also I played a randomizer where a blood maykr hit me I went from full health and armor to low health within literal frames, and they say nerfing it was a bad decision😂😂

[vital ravine]

I just go for him and throw everything I got at him

[vital ravine]

Blood maykrs are easily one of the most annoying enemy’s

By themselves they are fine but when there’s a crowd it’s an ugh

[young mango]

They’re okay if you have to deal with them from a distance but they’re practically unkillable in a tight enough space

[vital ravine]

Yep

[strange gale]

chaingun shield manip should still work there

[young mango]

Also blood maykr is just a mini prowler the way it’s ai breaks

The “push forward” combat when you have to wait for an enemy to do a specific attack to kill it

I Love the doom eternal bell curve

[pure iris]

Im crying

But this is completely unrelated to the game, my dad just brought me a burger and i ordered a spicy one

Idk what the hell they put in it but its waaaay worse than last time and i dont have anything to drink lmao

[shut night]

id take blood makyr over cursed prowler any day

[slow sigil]

bmaykers are fairly cool though
just aslong as they aren't alone

[lucid siren]

Oh you mean those bloody hit n run things that bite you and then take off like a coward rather than stand and fight?

[shut night]

yah but the ones that take away dash and poison you, ok with basic ones

though forgot how many there can be in the master levels 😂

[lucid siren]

The Stone Imps were a bit disappointing, I thought I was in for a challenge before I realised that I could just use chainsaw meleé attacks like the regular ones.

[static goblet]

How do u calculate eDPI

[shut night]

yah just annoying especially with how auto shotty one of worst mods in game

im still surprised they didnt buff it for how bad it is, instead try to force you to use it.

[young mango]

Your normal dpi + your in game sens

So my dpi on my mouse is 3200, times my 17 in game sens that’s 54400

[static goblet]

Does vertical and horizontal have an effect?

Also that sens is insane

[young mango]

I’ve been told

[young mango]

Well I usually don’t mess with that and I put both of those at a solid 40

[static goblet]

Might improve ur aim if u lower it, dw not the highest ive seen tho, my gf plays on 6400 with 12 sens

[static goblet]

Yh same thing

[young mango]

My desk doesn’t have much hand room

[static goblet]

Fair enough but thats still incredibly high, I also play high sense, 2400 with 10 in game sens (slowly lowering it) but its not as high as urs. Im guessing you need to move your mouse less than a centimetre to do a full 360

For reference the average is about 30cm for a 360 turn, im currently at about 2 - 6 cm (varies per game) and your on roughly 0.7cm it seems

[uneven estuary]

I got eternal about a month and a half ago and I forgot if you had to create a Bethesda acc on nswitch so I could see if I could get the free bundles

[covert oar]

guys do i NEED keybinds to be good at the game or is the weapon wheel enough

[flint flame]

You don’t need someone else’s keybinds. Better key binds are not correlated to being better at the game (on console though I get it)

Just get used to your own

[covert oar]

yeah i mean are keybinds for weapons important on like nightmare or the weapon wheel enough

i’m only just getting back into the game now

[kindred fiber]

assuming you're on M&K. the only keys i rebound were 6 (ballista), 7 (chaingun), 8 (BFG) to B,N,and M respectively because i have small hands. Rebinding crucible / hammer from V to somethhing else might be worth doing because i fat finger it a lot, but its not a huge deal. I do think keybinds are important on nightmare because of how fast you need to be. Do whatever works for you

[wheat vigil]

Are they an absolute necessity for vanilla single player? No
Do they help? Yes
Do you need them for modded single player content? Probably
Do you need them for multiplayer? Absolutely

[vast comet]

Yo where do you find the first entry of the story of hell

[wheat vigil]

Buy reveal map upgrade

[brazen matrix]

That moment you realize that the image for the Remaining Human Populations Codex Entries shows that Australia hasn’t been touched at all

[lucid siren]

Because the demons steer clear of Wolf Creek.

[eager prairie]

Yo I need help

So I just sold my doom standard edition PS4 disc and digitally bought the PS5 deluxe edition is there anyway I can transfer my saves from the PS4 version to PS5

Cuz I don't wanna redo the whole campaign I just wanna enjoy tag 1 and 2

[grizzled mountain]

henlo frens

[past linden]

My brain won’t let me sleep

[lucid siren]

I'm not 100% sure but I think you need to load up the PS4 version and save it to PS+.

[eager prairie]

Damn it I already sold the disc

Thanks anyway

[lucid siren]

Then I believe you can download the files onto the PS4, but I've not tried it, I just heard this in the Final Fantasy group.

[eager prairie]

Aight thanks

[lucid siren]

You can probably buy another disc for less than $5.00.

I spent that much on D2016 a year after it's release, however Eternal has a slightly longer shelf life and replay value I think.

[flint flame]

It’s been three years…

2016 on retail is $20 usd…

Eternal on retail is $40….

[lucid siren]

He doesn't need a brand new copy, he only needs the disc. In fact, I don't think he even needs the disc, thinking about it, but either way, he could just get a cheap used copy from GameStop or even borrow one.

My Slayers Collection was £15.00 brand new.

Doom Eternal's £13.99 on Amazon.

[vast comet]

Bro I have the first entry for the hell thing but it doesn’t wanna show up

[flint flame]

Nah in trynna say ofc eternal costs more on sale and it does not have a longer shelf life as its shelf life is over already

[lucid siren]

Try it without the disc. I think it might work as long as your data's on your hard drive and it's transferable to PS+.

[vital ravine]

Is there any doom song anybody here would headbang to?

[lucid siren]

Headbanging requires far too much rhythm for me.

[vital ravine]

Just sorta do it on the beat?

[empty basin]

I headbang to almost every DLC OST

[vital ravine]

Fair

[empty basin]

UAC Atlantica, Blood Swamps, Trial of Maligog, The World Spear, Reclaimed Earth, Immora, The Dark Lord

[vital ravine]

Not the biggest fan of the tag 1 and 2 ost

But I can see how some people like it

[empty basin]

It's kinda hard for everyone to have a consistent experience with it since we have no official OST release yet

granted the same can also be sort of said to the base game's OST, since the official album is uh... not very good

[vital ravine]

Have you heard why that is?

[empty basin]

for the DLC? I'm not sure

[vital ravine]

No for the standard doom ost

Eternal that is

[empty basin]

Honestly I don't really understand the full picture on the matter so I'd rather not say

[lucid siren]

I might tap my foot or camp up some.