doom-eternal

[hoary bough]

There is no question the ssg is faster at shooting than lock ons

[flint flame]

clueless

Does he know???

[strange gale]

he's kinda right, that's only true when punchswapping ssg and having the punches make contact with an enemy

other than that though, slob all day https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504714848194527236/1108713542502318170/0cyc_5.mp4

slob is 2700 damage a pop at about the same rate as the 1600 damage of regular ssg punchswaps

[slow sigil]

SLOBs aren't that precise

It's more that you have to know about them that is "hard"

[hoary bough]

Shooting the super shotgun takes less time than locking on with rocket launcher

Like idk what is so hard to get

From the moment you start locking on to the moment all three rockets fire takes more time than just shooting the ssg

[strange gale]

time traveled to 2020 🤯

[burnt moss]

Even after learning them I had great difficulty trying to get any sort of consistency

If you as a fighter can’t wield a weapon effectively, then it’s obviously not the best weapon for you. Git gud only goes so far.

[slow sigil]

We didn't at all talk about personal choice though

Otherwise you can argue every weapon is fine thrash

[burnt moss]

I think “better” has an inherently subjective element to it.

[slow sigil]

Cause someone, somewhere, just straight up can't use it

[slow sigil]

If the game didn't have statistics you can measure, sure

But no amount of liking the super shotgun can just make it shoot harder

Power of friendship in doom

[burnt moss]

You limit yourself to measurable stats? There are plenty of important aspects of fighting that aren’t easily measured.

Nobody said “DPS=better”. You aren’t factoring in ease of use, or mobility, or reaction window. Your entire definition of what is better seems to be “what can deal the most hurt under optimal circumstances with optimal playstyle”.

[slow sigil]

I literally mentioned chaingun shield which primary feature is practical godmode

[burnt moss]

Inferior DPS and mobility though

Oh and unpopular opinion: fun to use is also criteria that needs to be considered.

[slow sigil]

the DPS isn't even that far behind, and you have BS like this too. the mobility is really a mood point becaue, yes meathook is great, missing it is more a fun downside

[slow sigil]

then it's "favourite" not "best"

you're free to like stuff but that won't make them good
like how mayo likes FA but that not at all will EVER make fa the best weapon

[burnt moss]

Do you measure how good a game is by its FPS?

[slow sigil]

numerical vallues go further then firerate and damage

[burnt moss]

I’m not specifically comparing it to Meathook. CGS is inferior to SSG if you want to deal a bunch of damage in a split second. Or if you want to run- anywhere.

[burnt moss]

Then what other numerical values are you considering?

[slow sigil]

literal godmode for one

but even for dps, rocket is just better still?

[burnt moss]

It has mobility limitations compared to SSG

[slow sigil]

also i didn't say ssg was useless, yeah it's pretty handy in quite a lot of situations, but is it the best? no

[burnt moss]

My whole point is just that you need to establish criteria for best

[slow sigil]

luckily we have basekit dash, which you can also do in walls to bounce of them (forgot the specific name). double jump, lunge with glorykills

[burnt moss]

Meaning survivability is a component of best?

[slow sigil]

overal game use is a pretty broad criteria that works quite well

[slow sigil]

before you go that route, even at 600 fps i would still consider godmode much better then any manouverability and armour meathook gives

[burnt moss]

Again I’m not defending meathook.

[burnt moss]

Broad criteria is difficult to argue about.

[slow sigil]

better then "i like this so it's the best"

[burnt moss]

LOB requires you to be a target for a longer period of time than SSG. That’s a mobility restraint.

[burnt moss]

Barely better. Best weapons become worst weapons in different play styles

[slow sigil]

being bad is not a play style fyi

[burnt moss]

Damage tanking is a strategy though. Point of game is kill demons, not dodge everything.

My playstyle at one point included using cover. So LOB didn’t fit in nearly as well due to higher exposed time. Hitscan was king for that style.

[slow sigil]

SLOB

[burnt moss]

Remind me why BFG isn’t best

[slow sigil]

it doesn't magically recharge over time unlike all your other ammo

beinf finite pulls it back, though with constricted speedruns they actually have BFG shots over iirc

[burnt moss]

I refuse to clear corners with RL

[slow sigil]

sounds like a you issue

[burnt moss]

Splash damage is an objective disadvantage for rocket

[slow sigil]

it is, but S + dash balances it out 7/10 times

[burnt moss]

Speak console to me lol

[slow sigil]

and again, the obscene DPS with SLOB which barely has splash damage

[burnt moss]

RL being best limits playstyle to midrange. Close range players bad then?

What’s S

[slow sigil]

something being the best =/= physical impossibility for other stuff to fill in gaps

[slow sigil]

walking backwards

[burnt moss]

So you’d take a point-blank shot with RL

[slow sigil]

fyi best is also not flawless

[burnt moss]

Could you just define it

[slow sigil]

do i need to give a definition to the word "best"?

best
/bɛst/
adjective
of the most excellent or desirable type or quality.
"the best midfielder in the country"
Vergelijkbaar:
finest
greatest
top
foremost
leading
pre-eminent
premier
prime
first
chief
principal
supreme
of the highest quality
superlative
unrivalled
second to none
without equal
nonpareil
unsurpassed
unsurpassable
peerless
matchless
unparalleled
unbeaten
unbeatable
unexcelled
optimum
optimal
ultimate
surpassing
incomparable
ideal
perfect
highest
record-breaking
top of the range
top of the line
par excellence
star
number-one
one-in-a-million
a cut above the rest
top-drawer
unexampled
Tegenovergesteld:
worst
adverb
to the highest degree; most (used with verbs suggesting a desirable action or state or a successful outcome).
"they named the pictures they liked best"
Vergelijkbaar:
most
to the highest/greatest degree
Tegenovergesteld:
least
noun
that which is the most excellent, outstanding, or desirable.
"buy the best you can afford"
Vergelijkbaar:
finest
top
cream
choice
choicest
prime
elite
crème de la crème
flower
jewel in the crown
nonpareil
the tops
the pick of the bunch
verbINFORMAL
outwit or get the better of (someone).
"she refused to allow herself to be bested"

oh jesus google

[burnt moss]

Unless you can tell me whether a V8 Mustang is better than a 4cyl Camry

[slow sigil]

i don't have the knowledge on either to give an opinion on them

i'm sure they have gaps either can fill out, and maybe if i knew enough i could all one the best for roading

but cars are more broad then.... a fairly niche specific video game

[burnt moss]

Is a plane or a car better

[slow sigil]

are you really comparing cars to planes to get a point up in a debate about whether 1 gun is better then the other gun in a video game

[burnt moss]

I am. RL vs Shotgun huge difference

Shotgun vs Rifle made Nazis formally complain. Look it up

[slow sigil]

after they gassed the french yeah

though france gassed them first but i think that was more mild

[burnt moss]

So yeah, I guess the hill I will die on is that SSG and RL can’t be objectively compared

I know it’s just a game, but if there was an objective best then militaries wouldn’t diversify their weaponry nearly as much as they do.

[slow sigil]

irl they have completely different uses compared to ingame

[burnt moss]

Not really

[slow sigil]

your planes to cars comparison would work if they where in eternal and the difference was that the plane can shot further but just consumes more "ammo"
meanwhile IRL they are.... just too different

[burnt moss]

Direct Fire = Hitscan usually. Indirect Fire = Splash Damage

[burnt moss]

Time to target, aiming method, difficulty to fire

[slow sigil]

pretty sure rocket launchers irl are more used for anti-vehicle, compared to the shotgun which is just a pretty amazing all arounder

[burnt moss]

Type of projectile is relevant

[slow sigil]

yeah but not enough to just say 1 is superior

[burnt moss]

So think of heavies as tanks and Superheavies as buildings

[burnt moss]

Which is why I said best is a bad criteria.

[slow sigil]

because your brain can't comprehend more then 4 metrics?

[burnt moss]

I wouldn’t clear a building with a rocket launcher but I also wouldn’t shoot a building with a shotgun

[burnt moss]

When I asked you to define best, I wanted you to provide the metrics

[slow sigil]

ok but demons don't have many weapon resistances except for spirits and some irrelevant demons

[burnt moss]

That is a difference yes.

[slow sigil]

i'm not gonna list them all cause i don't know the words of half

and again, something being better does not mean it can't do everything the other things can

[burnt moss]

Well if you and I both don’t fully understand the evaluation criteria, we can’t have a legitimate argument about which weapon meets the criteria.

[burnt moss]

Agreed

SSG can’t replace PB

[slow sigil]

objectivally speaking, mobile turret is worse then ssg
does this suddenly mean ssg can one cycle a posses marauder just because it's better? no

[burnt moss]

Change can’t to can

Agreed

[slow sigil]

well i think it's more your near religious confidence in a coded video game not having objectivalities

[burnt moss]

Best is a vague standard in any arena or field

Ask a geologist what the best volcano is

Ask a soldier what the best weapon is

Ask lawyer what the best law is lol

[slow sigil]

we are talking about a 3 year old game sweetie, not the complex web of IRL physics and laws

eternal ain't that complex, it's a bit more complex then the standard game but that's also mostly to most DPS being incredibly watered down

[burnt moss]

DE has significant complexity. There’s many different playstyles and they each use the advantages of the weapons differently

[slow sigil]

and you can still measure things

[burnt moss]

Have you heard of Qualitative vs Quantitative

[slow sigil]

ok no i am wrong

doom eternal is fuckign quantum mechanics and can not be comprehended by mere mortal beings

[burnt moss]

It’s not Mario

[slow sigil]

the whole idea of the ssg giving great mobility that can be substituted and missed whilst chaingun gives godmode and near comparable DPS and RL blows it out of the park with damage is completely neglible

god is real and it's full auto, god bless still having to chainsaw just as often

[light pasture]

I fw that, "God is real and full auto "😭

[covert basalt]

I like to microwave beam falter into full auto recharge

[flint flame]

Under da Mayo

[tired wren]

hey when do the horde mode leaderboards reset

just want to know so I can get 1st on hurt me plenty again

[sterile drum]

Do any of you know how to do the ballista boost on ps4 controller 🤔

Plus the shoot punch combo I see most people doin that shi

[trail coyote]

Guys, I have a question. There's a Bethesda pack bundle 2023 that I'd like to claim but when I try to, it doesn't aviable to view in game.
What can I do?
I'm a noob slayer.

[hollow plover]

Hello. Do the enemies take the same amount of hits to kill in different difficulties? Or, do enemies in lower difficulties require less bullets to die?

[azure oriole]

Demon health is the same across all difficulties

[empty basin]

As far as I know, they have the same HP regardless of difficulty.

The difficulty setting changes the damage the enemies deal to the Slayer alongside their AI behavior, lower difficulties would have certain enemies do their "heavy attacks" less often.

[jolly igloo]

I also figured out that it changes the marauder’s window of attack to be way slower

[small mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669411056036347927/1160053776703565874/782330_20231006231926_1.png?ex=65334345&is=6520ce45&hm=e82b8fe70e1179a528fc9dfd35d4c84c15e61af99995350990dad6becdca51b8&

Yoo I just found out you can change the UI color settings

This is so much cooler looking (minus the colors all look mostly the same so I might have to adapt to stuff like my health and armor not being as contrasted)

Oh and my frag and ice grenade icons look the same now ):

That might be the most difficult to adapt to lol

[chrome jewel]

I love how the first marauder fight is supposed to be serious but you can beat him in like two seconds

[acoustic merlin]

just beat doom eternal for the first time, dk why im saying this here, guess im just bored

[chrome jewel]

Oh cool

I'm just revisiting this game

Cus I love it

[acoustic merlin]

i got it like, a year ago, then left cause i sucked

[small mural]

I also just beat the game recently, and now I'm going through all the levels again and getting all the secrets and challenges I missed and also doing all the secret encounters and slayer gates because I skipped all of those lmao

[acoustic merlin]

but came back cus i was in a doom mood

[small mural]

Yeah I did the exact same thing, except I also stopped playing because I hadn't played 2016 yet so I had no clue what was going on

[acoustic merlin]

i jus watched vids

[small mural]

But then I started up 2016 and finished it and got all the lore stuff so I actually understood stuff in eternal lol

[chrome jewel]

I haven't played 2016 yet either

[acoustic merlin]

whats ur guy's opinion on doom eternal for console

[chrome jewel]

I should tho

[small mural]

You should, 2016 is really fun

It's also a lot easier than eternal lmao

[acoustic merlin]

we love super shotgun-ballista combo

[small mural]

Never played it :/

[chrome jewel]

I'll try it

I have and I love it

[acoustic merlin]

its what i play on, and im suprised im actually good at it

[small mural]

Tbh I've just been using super shotgun for bigger stuff and precision shot for fodder enemies. It's fun to get all the fodder enemies into one line so I can kill like 5 of em with 1 precision shot

Ooh and I also love to get everyone in one big area, freeze everything, spin around with flame belch and then throw both frags and reap the armor

[chrome jewel]

I just love using super shot gun basically the only gun I use lol

[small mural]

Sometimes that makes my computer lag like hell though lmfao

[acoustic merlin]

its the super shotgun of course its fun

[small mural]

I didn't use the super shotgun pretty much at all until near the end of the game when I was kinda forced to

But yeah, now it's all I use lmao

[acoustic merlin]

the fact that i used to think Arachnotrons were hard is funny to me

[chrome jewel]

Yea I'm playing doom on my old ps4 right now and I'm afraid it's going to explode

I don't like them they just kinda annoying

[acoustic merlin]

fair

[chrome jewel]

Same with cacodemons

[small mural]

Arachnos and cacos aren't hard, they just use up my shotgun ammo

[chrome jewel]

Ik just they annoying

[small mural]

Cacos are really hard when there's like 3+ all around you and they're right next to you so they just combo bite you and drain your health

But other than that they're ez lmao

[acoustic merlin]

yup

[chrome jewel]

What's your favorite demon In doom

[small mural]

There's only 3 suits in the fortress of doom right? (classic, 2016 and sentinel)

[chrome jewel]

I think so

[small mural]

Is there any award for buying everyting in the fortress of doom? Cause I think I just did that lol

[empty basin]

Cacodemons are sort of a joke because of the sticky bombs instakill, but yeah if you leave them for too long they will barrage you with their triple orb blast and bites, which can take a huge chunk of your HP instantly

[chrome jewel]

I don't know

I haven't done that yet

[empty basin]

as far as I know, no

the only reward is from spending 8 sentinel batteries

which gives the "Bring It" Slayer Battlemode Intro

[acoustic merlin]

thats a tough one

[small mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669411056036347927/1160059980142096465/782330_20231006234234_1.png?ex=6533490c&is=6520d40c&hm=b4056450ffc0a5f511762a17b9f9787fffb21723d9c4de37810f1b866667d880&

Almost there..

[chrome jewel]

How do you change your ui color

[acoustic merlin]

game settings

[small mural]

It's the first option in settings -> UI iirc

Mine is called 'exterminator'

[chrome jewel]

Ooh thanks

[empty basin]

Titans because they look cool, shame we never got to fight any though, apart from the Icon of Sin that is

[chrome jewel]

Fair

Mines probably the small demons mostly because their glory kills are great

BTW I don't know their names

[lyric schooner]

https://www.twitch.tv/fathead87

Taking a quick weed break then i'm back

[young mango]

?

[tacit aspen]

Wrong chat, dude

[flint flame]

Bro keeps posting it like we gonna click it

[lyric schooner]

wrong chat?

Says DOOM Eternal

I'm playing that

[jolly igloo]

I wonder who made the slayer’s super shotgun

Was it the slayer himself or one of the sentinels?

[tacit aspen]

There's a channel called #livestreams

[empty basin]

Personally I think it'd be the Slayer himself

[jolly igloo]

That would be pretty cool

[empty basin]

Sentinel weaponry are energy-based, and the SSG uses gunpowder shells

[small mural]

He probably picked it up on the side of the road like every other gun

[empty basin]

And we do see from his personal room in the Fortress of Doom that the Slayer has the tinkering skills necessary to modify his suits

[small mural]

I'm pretty sure he gets it in doom 1 tho

[azure oriole]

he stole an ai

[oblique grove]

he gets it in doom 2

there is no super shotgun in doom 1993

[jolly igloo]

Nah we’re talking about the ssg from doom eternal

[small mural]

Yeah ig, the double barrel

[empty basin]

The base SSG itself probably yes, but the Meathook attachment is definitely a self-modification, since the only person who'd ever think about its use would be the one person who's whole life has been slaying demons for all eternity

[small mural]

Oh, I thought there was

[tacit aspen]

He picks up another ssg in Doom 2016, I like to think he modified it, and added the meathook

[small mural]

Oh true, yeah it was probably the shotgun he's had since the classic games and the meathook is his own modification

[azure oriole]

The Codex legitimately has Hell priests whining about his shotgun meat hook.

[empty basin]

stuffs like the demonic engravings are probably also self-modified

[oblique grove]

thats true if it was modded by demons why was it not modded in doom 2016

[empty basin]

because the 2016 SSG is a random SSG he picked up from a fallen soldier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m6jqON2cN0

[small mural]

Ugh I hate doom's guidance system so much

[oblique grove]

the solder could have been a high class solder becuase we see his weapons and armor taken away in doom 2016

there also are weapons you find in hell and there not modded

[small mural]

I'm on the super gore nest mission and I just completely confused myself by thinking I should go to the middle of the gore nest and put the blue and red keys in cause I went and picked both of them up but then when I got there it wouldn't let me, and then I realized that I still need to activate the second power terminal to kill the heart

But the ping system lead me to the blue and red key insert areas and now I'm just lost

[empty basin]

the soldier is likely a veteran yes, as implied in the codex entry where veteran soldiers insists on their usage While this weapon has been removed from the UAC's approved weapon arsenal, many veteran operators insist that there is no better alternative for close combat. It offers incomparable destructive power at extremely close range, but it is completely ineffective at long range. The weapon is light and small, making it a favored secondary weapon that no self-respecting combat specialist would be seen without.

[oblique grove]

i guess thats true but theres no doubt he modded his own weapon

[burnt moss]

Look at the map and see where you haven’t been

[empty basin]

anyways, the 2016 SSG is likely not the same as the Eternal SSG, since Vega says "A relic from your past" which implies that it is much older than the 2016 version

the Eternal SSG is likely before the Slayer was sealed in the tomb

[small mural]

Yeah I'm in the upper area now, I don't remember how to get down to the lower area

[oblique grove]

ya its from doom 2 an old game so it could be the one that is doom guys

[empty basin]

yeah it might be a heavily modified version from the doom 2 SSG

[oblique grove]

ya

[small mural]

Yooo I just did my final slayer gate

[empty basin]

grats 👍

[small mural]

Wait no

I am supposed to open the gore nest to get to the second power terminal

So is my game just broken??

Nvm the game is gaslighting me, it lets me use the keys now ofc

[flint flame]

Wrong chat as in this is a discussion for doom eternal, not self promo

[lyric schooner]

LOL I'm high as fuck and just found the chat, my bad!

[burnt moss]

You know who else gets high?

Slayer when he uses yeethook

[small mural]

What's extra life mode and how do I do it

It doen't mean the extra life cheat right?

Ohh it's just hardcore mode?

[limber ledge]

noice fellow 420 ents

just installed eternal...started hightmare....edibles will kick in soon...

[small mural]

I only have 5 campaign milestones left now

The phobos suit, gold suit, "can't perfect perfection', and collect all toys, and whatever 👍 is

[jolly igloo]

Weird question: what are your guys’ favourite fodder demon?

Me personally, I really like the gargoyle

[limber ledge]

the graphics are so insane maxed out on a 4080

qdoled monitor 4 le win

[small mural]

Damn, I bet

I'm struggling to run the game on a 1080p monitor with a 1050ti notebook :p

[steep barn]

the marauder is a pain in the ass

[jolly igloo]

You’ll figure him out eventually

[small mural]

He is when he's surrounded by a bunch of other enemies yeah

Especially the little dogs he always summons

[river rock]

Shielded soldier i think

[empty basin]

unwilling or zombies since they are free armor + blood punch charges

just shoot 2 heavy cannon bullets, meathook for fire and glory kill

[burnt moss]

#doom-eternal message

Funny you should say that

[near forge]

I am aincet gord

[viscid kraken]

Al amect ivegna?

[jolly igloo]

Good answer

[jolly igloo]

Also good answer

[tacit aspen]

👍 is when you punch a Slayer gate without having the key

[agile pawn]

[bold pendant]

hello

[agile pawn]

ello

[bold pendant]

you all havin a goood day?

[zinc osprey]

guys haha should i do the arc complex slayer gate now on my UN run? i did the previous 3 but this one seems kinda risky ngl

i know you dont need it tho haha

any voters xd

[bold pendant]

on UN i wouldn't do that Slayer gate since you could lose everything and also it introduces new enemies so I'd skip it and just carry on

[zinc osprey]

yeah i think youre right, maybe if i do un i can go again with the slayer gates and all as a challenge idk

thanks

[flint flame]

You’re still early on

Anything after sentinel prime I would say be careful with

Also arc complex one is kinda easy

[zinc osprey]

you mean the level or the slayer gate? cuz yeah the level is pretty easy

ok i did the gate haha

ty

[flint flame]

The gate

[bold pendant]

what completely puzzles me is what BFG stands for I always thought it was 'big f'ing gun' but tell me if I'm wrong

[young mango]

You’re correct

[bold pendant]

really?

[young mango]

Yea

[bold pendant]

i tbh thought it was different

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-worried-scared-look-gif-23041456

thx

[flint flame]

Erm akshually it’s bio force gun ☝️🤓

[snow wigeon]

doom movie moment

[bold pendant]

💀

[azure oriole]

Finally got past Blood Swamps on UN

My biggest run-ender is gonna be either Samur Wave 5 or that fuckin possessed tyrant

[grave smelt]

What are some good weapon skins

I want to spice up my cosmetics

[flint flame]

Hellforged

[wintry spear]

Anyone down for some battle mode on Xbox?

[azure oriole]

Any movement guides to maneuver quickly?

[wintry spear]

Nope

[night swift]

Guys I have all doom game except Doom 2016 should I buy it

[wintry spear]

Yes

It’s a great game and the bosses are easy, I only died a handful of times bc the mass amount of platforming

[topaz arch]

is there a way i can spawn demons? i'd like to spawn immobile tyrant

[royal pumice]

man it makes me angry I beat doom eternal nightmare on a controller got nothing LOL

[royal pumice]

big fucking gun better

[royal pumice]

I wouldn't know all I did through my playthrough of nightmare was moving forwards and left and right as strafing

[stone marsh]

Hey all, this is very random, but does anyone know the song for this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcqR5EizQos

I tried the usual shazam/etc methods but no luck and I'm not sure which track this is 😄

[queen canopy]

Oh

My God

Dude Cultist Base on Ultra-Violence is literally impossible for me to beat - the part where you have to obtain super shotgun.

[tacit aspen]

You can always go back to the first level and gather easy extra lives there, that's what I do lol

[queen canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-meme-black-guy-cries-sad-man-thank-god-for-my-reefer-hood-news-gif-24902056

[tacit aspen]

Someone in the comments section said what song it is, lol. Doom Eternal Blood Swamps heavy fighting
https://youtu.be/1dLV-pbbBUg?feature=shared

[stone marsh]

Wtf I checked that too, tysm

AHH it's from the DLC, that's why I couldn't find it either. I appreciate it!

[agile pawn]

i like potato chips

[tacit aspen]

You're welcome

[topaz arch]

Is it possible to spawn demons using console commands?

[young mango]

Yes, but you need the “meath00k” application, it is bundled with DESRU and can be found on nexus mods as well, the file should be something along the lines of XINPUT3.DLL

[topaz arch]

ok i set it up, but i can't find a command for spawning demons

[young mango]

I’ll dm you a doc listing all the commands

[river rock]

Blood swamps would have been so good if the maligog's trial was better fr

[grave smelt]

I’m on the final level of the main campaign

Thos will be my first complete doom game ☠️

[royal salmon]

so what's with "left side" and "back" glory kills on nekravol?

[tacit aspen]

Seen from the demon, not from you

[royal salmon]

ah i was attempting to complete challenges, so it's like mirror right? back seems bit easier

[tacit aspen]

If it says "from the right" attack from the right side of the demon, therefore your left... I guess it's like mirror right. It's stupidly explained in game

Took me ages to understand as well

[royal salmon]

yet the back one is bit simple and easier, i'll try to complete those challenges left behind after beating up icon of sin

[tacit aspen]

That is true. Good luck

[small mural]

Ugh yeah I'm not looking forward to those

[azure oriole]

Would’ve been clearer if they said “attack a demons’s right side”

With a possessive contraction

[small mural]

Okay so for the "left-side" doom hunter gk I need to kill him from his left, so my right?

[flint flame]

Nah bio force gun superiority

[royal pumice]

Seethe

[small mural]

"very big gun"

The game definitely makes a point out of not saying what the middle character of the acronym means

[flint flame]

Surely you realize I’m not being serious lol

[small mural]

Isn't it argent powered anyways

Also btw is the cyber mancubus weaker than the normal mancubus? Usually I meathook -> blood punch -> ssg shot and that gets them into gk state instantly, but with normal mancubus it takes that + another ssg shot or two to get them into gk state at all

[flint flame]

It’s because the bloodpunch has a damage multiplier on cyber mancs

[small mural]

Ohh I see

[small mural]

Okay so idk what's up with this cause I just did two glory kills on the two doom hunters but one of em did a front gk and the other was on the back so idk what kind of angle it needs but its gotta be really specific or something

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669411056036347927/1160375849883803688/DOOMEternal_2023-10-07_20-36-23_trimmed.mp4?ex=65346f39&is=6521fa39&hm=ebd432601397141106198b5d682b25ffbe056357a0269cc6a59b99323e8863fe&

I love it when the game can't tell if I want to glory kill or blood punch even though I'm staring right at the huge gk state enemy right in front of me

Also I thought that was the left side gk I needed until I realized that I glory killed the enemy right next to the doom hunter instead ):<

[fallen heart]

glory killing these 2 doom hunters can get really wonky at times but this wasn't one of those times

mecha zombie clearly walked inbetween you 2 to trigger that BP

[small mural]

Yeah it's just really annoying that it thinks I want to blood punch instead of gk

Just unlucky ig

[fallen heart]

https://www.twitch.tv/mmafro/clip/AcceptableSmoothDoveSSSsss-Vd2n0cEdV3cOHHkW?featured=false&filter=clips&range=all&sort=time heres a wonky one

[small mural]

Yeahh that's so shitty

[harsh rivet]

anyone have any tips for doing super gore nest ML on UN?

[small mural]

Omg I finally did the gk challenge

Took like 7 tries and 3 checkpoint loads lmao

I can't imagine the archvile challenge is going to be any easier tho

Nvm I got it first try lmaoo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669411056036347927/1160388843531407441/DOOMEternal_2023-10-07_21-30-01.mp4?ex=65347b53&is=65220653&hm=cc32f4d3cce07f1adfb36a02c5bbe3ecc095795e5341b7a6fa3e6db14ca70ddd&

Okay wtf

(Trying to do back glory kill, aim at back, teleport to front)

[solar wigeon]

[azure oriole]

Just practice too much

And dont play thinking you are invincible

[harsh rivet]

👍

[azure oriole]

And for the final part get the 3 archies with the crucible

You ice bomb the 2 in the middle and the other will be ez

[ember void]

you jumped and were in the air

thats uhh most likely the reason

[small mural]

That makes me teleport to the front?

[ember void]

wellll, if you're in the air you will get the air glorykill(s) on whatever demon you're glorykilling

that is the tyrants air glorykill

er, top down glorykill? above glorykill? whatever

[glass tinsel]

I'm on the last mission of my first doom eternal ultra nightmare run, wish me luck ig (I'm not good at doom eternal even on hurt me plenty)

[young mango]

Good luck man

[small mural]

Why tf did starting up ancient gods reset my runes

[grizzled rock]

Good luck!!!!

[fallen heart]

cause u jumped...there is no from above GK on tyrants from their back so the game will prioritize you being in the air instead of behind the tyrant. gotta stay grounded behind him

[small mural]

Huh

[fallen heart]

i don't know how to explain that better

[small mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669411056036347927/1160426186485289001/20231007235857_1.jpg?ex=65349e1a&is=6522291a&hm=daf092c8b9d3e2d376ab63dfed9ebde2d265f080998d5388531998ac49b7a053&

Am I supposed to be able to do something with this or is it just an easter egg

[runic mesa]

what's that?

[small mural]

Looks like a blue retro-style keycard

[opal galleon]

Easter egg

[frigid horizon]

ngl one of my favarite glory kills (even tho its not the right one for your challenge)

[small mural]

I think my fav glory kill is the mancubus one where you shove its heart in its mouth

[frigid horizon]

yeah thats cool cus the n it explodes damaging/killing demons near him

[small mural]

I just like how he forces its mouth open by grabbing its bigass tooth

[frigid horizon]

fr

[empty basin]

Small tip whenever doing challenges like this, using the Microwave Beam Plasma Rifle is a great way to discern the enemy HP

[small mural]

Oh true

I forgot you can see the health meter on there

I 100%ed the main campaign earlier tho

On hurt me plenty at least, still haven't played ultra nightmare

I bought the ancient gods today tho so I'm gonna have fun with that for a bit

[empty basin]

It's especially useful on the DLC, since there's a certain enemy that buffs the enemy's HP

"Damn when is this thing gonna die"
Pulls out Microwave Beam and shoots for half a second
"Ok so it has that amount of HP left"

[small mural]

I'll def keep that in mind

I also started a new save for the main campaign so I can do the extra lives mode, so that'll be fun lol

I forgot how weird the movement is without the air movement rune

[empty basin]

yeah I feel like Air Control should be a suit upgrade instead of a rune

same with Punch and Reave (enemies killed by blood punch drops health)

On another note, ughhh... the more I try the Taras Nabad ML, the worse my gameplay becomes and the more I hate it

There's the matter of the difficulty and whatnot, but also man it's so fucking looooong

[grizzled rock]

I'm on my second play thru of eternal. Beat it once back in October of 2020, but had to give the game in for some extra cash for bills. Adopted mom got it agsin when we found out about the dlc. Just finished the Super Gore Nest board...... I hate that level...!

[slow sigil]

Why?

[grizzled rock]

Why hate the level? The acid pools for one. And the timed escape at the end. It's a lengthy level to complete, with a lot of arena zones.... but i love the ample opportunities to rip n tear! It's mostly the acid areas n that escape. Oh yea, n thst one preator suit coin that always eludes me......

[strange gale]

you don't get to w key away from all your problems 🤯

[burnt moss]

Imagine keys

[river rock]

Fuck gargoyles

[azure oriole]

Hi guys so I finally finished the campaign on nightmare and i got to say its hard.
I play on ps4 but I think i play a little bit well.
I started the game only for the platinum, but started enjoying it a lot.
Finished the main campaign on the ez dificulties and then started doing some master levels. I also finished the dlcs and i love this game.
I dont have a lot to do now in doom eternal. What should I do?
Any recomendations?

[marble obsidian]

yo dis man insane

im too scared to even try

[azure oriole]

I died a lot of times

The final sin was very hard

The boss fights were the worst part, but the chaingun shield is very useful

[short rune]

Laughs in Ultra-nightmare

Try beating everything on UN (master levels, TAG 1, TAG 2, even the world spear ML)

[strange gale]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-reddit-gold-kind-stranger-slot-machine-gif-9286172767555917428

[young mango]

Try to be beginner friendly

[azure oriole]

Does the doom slayer still have a zigzag cut

From the doom 2 cover art

[young mango]

Unfortunately not

[glass tinsel]

I died.

[strange gale]

go on indeed.com and look up oil rig. NOW!

[young mango]

Hey man just keep practicing, I’d recommend practicing on the nightmare levels individually, using the reset mission feature any time you die

[strange gale]

easier alternative: beat hell on earth on any difficulty without taking damage

[glass tinsel]

Thanks man, I'm gonna try that now but doom is harder for me cuz my PC broke and now I'm playing on ps4

[torpid coral]

I don't know if it's on my end, but I can't play TAG 1 after I already got the DLC. Is there a reason why?

[flint flame]

😱😱😱

[young mango]

VM try not to brag about something a bajillion other doom eternal players have accomplished (impossible)

[tacit aspen]

There's a Doom 2 Slayer skin you can unlock playing horde mode if I remember right

[short rune]

But do all of that with a controller it's definitely an experience

[azure oriole]

Fr

I just unlocked it its sick asf

[tacit aspen]

Nice, congrats

[short rune]

Yh, I can't blame myself it took me so many attempts why can't I brag abt it?

[young mango]

Because you’re not doing it because you’re proud of yourself you’re doing it because you have an ego, right after somebody was talking about difficulty you go “oh yea? Well I know difficult, I did everything on ultra nightmare” and that’s just so pretentious

[strange gale]

good thing that one's choice of control type doesn't impact the difficulty of playing official content at a casual level very much

[short rune]

Yh it doesn't as long as you know your inputs and routes on how to beat the game

[strange gale]

then why would you bring up your controller in the first place

[short rune]

I can't help but be egotistical there's no cure for that sadly 🥲

[short rune]

Ego boost for fun

I like to see ppls reaction

Very funny

[short rune]

I did everything in UN!!!

[strange gale]

you can go way beyond that without modding

[short rune]

But I am in ps5 I can't mod 😭

[strange gale]

insane reading comprehension

[short rune]

Frfr

[strange gale]

i can see from your gameplay that you really like air control, how about you do all of it again without ac

[short rune]

But aren't 90% of doom eternal players use that?

[short rune]

Done it on battlemode 🧠

Ur turn to type

[flint flame]

I mean hey, props for knowing your audience enough to ego boost specifically when there are people who struggled beating the game in nightmare. Very based sigma male gigachad!!!!

[young mango]

@short rune we do a little trolling https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV9W2iOVMoD8qzJVIt5pjlmCBLvi-8tv_&si=fh8Ya89QrHmJu_sl

[flint flame]

You did battlemode?

[strange gale]

random remote detonate on a marauder, interesting decision

[short rune]

Gigachad M&K god

[short rune]

I have a big brain 🧠

[flint flame]

Since we’re in a flexing competition, I got top 100 demons and slayer back when the game was popular.

[short rune]

But in ps

[flint flame]

In pc dumbass

[short rune]

Ah mb

[young mango]

My biggest flex was beating TAG2 in 11 minutes

https://youtu.be/pbFxbOIhDO0?si=Mie54Zzv_wWdg7gH

[short rune]

My biggest flex is beating the game in more than 10 hours in "I am young to die"

[flint flame]

😶

[strange gale]

dblade on any possessed enemy is also an interesting decision

[short rune]

[young mango]

Where’s the gameplay at

[strange gale]

https://youtu.be/gYX3M4au-U4

fires lob at possessed baron once, does he know?

[short rune]

Nah

🥺 he doesn't know

Sadly

[strange gale]

lock on is the best option against possessed demons across the board

[short rune]

Mmm lock on isn't my strongest point

[acoustic lark]

[short rune]

Mmm dis is getting scary cuz da mods are here 🥶

The kex guy

Very scary

Could ban me at any sec

[slow sigil]

Luckily It's fully upgraded at the start

[strange gale]

the dblade usage was already interesting before any possessed enemies showed up, but after that it became arguably the worst option

was wondering why you were taking no damage, then i skipped to the end and realized this was recorded on uv

that explains a lot

[short rune]

Oh yh forgot that 1

Yeh was rusty as heck

That's why it has the "title doom eternal in 2023" since I haven't played for months so I decided to play on UV cuz I was rusty and I did the montage at the end to show off which is the recorded section

[strange gale]

going full tunnel vision on one archvile that isn't doing anything and letting the other one finish its summoning sequence is also interesting

the same arch gets to summon twice for free

[short rune]

Yeh

Lettibg ma boi get the summonzzz

At 4:46 hammer was used to stagger one marauder but hasn't staggered the other that's a poor decision from his part

Interesting

[strange gale]

bragging about your un completions but having footage like this to represent that claim isn't a good look

[short rune]

I only have the streams of the UN completions on the compilation but those are for the ML

I haven't done the footage of the campaing ones cuz I was getting bodied 🥺

Actually that's bc I have done it on my ps4 for that matter

The Campaing ones

[short rune]

As I stated it was an ego boost just with the purpose of making a reaction and my goal was accomplished

(Hope I don't get timed out nor banned)

[strange gale]

is this ego boost in the room with us right now

[short rune]

100%

[strange gale]

if people calling you average gives you an ego boost then your standards are through the floor, but to each their own

[short rune]

It's fine

I have a positive mind 💪🔥

I am the most avarage doom eternal controller bot

But fr needed to ego boost bc I have been humble on discord and on dead games for newcomers and players alike and just getting the attention gives me a relief, I am actually very egotistical on the inside and there were a lot of times that I had to be humble, but this time I just wanted all of it out as sort of relief

Well seeking attention is another

Mmm helloo?

Dead chat xd

[flint flame]

“I just wanted a reaction and my goal was accomplished” bro you were flexing but got called out on it and now you’re backpedaling

[flint flame]

There’s always a bigger fish.

[short rune]

Tell me more

[azure oriole]

Got stuck on the final fight of super gore nest master level :/

I can’t handle 4 arcviles

I hate those dudes

[short rune]

Bfg those mfs

Freeze and then bfg

[short rune]

Backpedaling is my strongest point

[azure oriole]

Been trying that, but I’ve only got one bfg shot. Anyways: gonna try that

I haven’t been able to freeze them because while I focus in one, the others start spawning demons and it makes it way harder

But I’m taking a good thing away from this: I think I’m ready to finish horde mode (after this level)

[short rune]

If I don't remember correctly there's 2 archvilles that spawn on the center and other 2 that spawn on that phase, try to not use the bfg throughout the level, when u do the encouraging use 2 bfg shots and go down and pick the bfg ammo that's is below that platform

That should be a way to clear them ig

[kindred harness]

Cacodemon pretty epic

[azure oriole]

Yeah, I think I’ve died like 6-7 times now lmaooo. I know the spawn points of the first phases (aracnos, tyrants), but I haven’t taken time to know where exactly the 4 archvilles spawn. And I mean: it’s hard to know exactly where they are and to take a breath (I’m on controller :,))

Think I need to go to a corner of the map, choose one arcville to fire, and use bfg, and let it do the rest with the other enemies

Tho I do know you can kill the arcville with two guided shots from the rocket launcher, but it always targets other enemies

Does anyone ever actually die to a Marauder and not the demons you run into trying to ignore him?

[sturdy sluice]

I

[small mural]

If the dogs count then yeah

[flint flame]

Have you considered waiting?

[dense wind]

No. If I wanted to wait, I'd hope in tomb like Doomguy. I ain't got time for that shit. Rip and Tear... NOW!

[azure oriole]

You could've chosen not to write this

[young mango]

No chance he’s any older than 14 and that’s being really generous

[azure oriole]

To a marauder? No

To Marauder’s: yes

[strange gale]

he's untethered from the very idea of cringe

[spark crown]

I almost got the golden slayer but I died to an imp in the final fight

I love this game 100000/10

[random vault]

“i may be cringe but your mean and thats worse”

[river rock]

Its 3, just crucible the 2 on the main arena and freeze and double lock on the last one

[small mural]

Is there a list anywhere of the DOOM Eternal soundtrack (the unreleased one from the collector's edition) but ordered in appearance in the actual gameplay, like all the music from Hell On Earth first and then the music in Exultia

[flint flame]

The collectors edition playlist sorts it, dunno about the online rips

[small mural]

Does it? Cause Soul Extraction is the 4 track and that's like halfway through the game

And from what I can tell, the songs in Exultia are in the very end of the tracklist

[flint flame]

Maybe I’m remembering it wrong

[empty basin]

Yeah the official release has a lot of songs that are out of order

There's this full album remix by the_kovic which is better than the official release imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aam9VvzFuI0

[small mural]

Yeah Meathook is the combat music for Exultia but it's on track 54

Okay well it does have the tracklist in the description so I'll def use that

[empty basin]

Other than the track listing, they also did a proper smooth transition between tracks, such as going from A Slayer City to Meathook

it's straight up fire

[small mural]

Ooh yeah why is super gore nest panned to the hard right in the beginning

(on the original)

Idk part of me wishes there was a version with the transitions but without the remixes, cause I kinda prefer to listen to the original thing

[empty basin]

Yeah I would as well, but unfortunately the official version is kinda... not really good

The song S.O.S. from Earth is the biggest offender

When the Slayer reloads his shotgun, you can hear the screaming voice of the woman from the game's intro

Which is just... I really am not sure how that happened unless the people mixing the track just recorded the ingame audio?

[static snow]

I kinda seed runnerd doom eternal just to have the final boss battle the creation of hell and i found out it's a DLC🥲

[west comet]

Imagine a doom analog horror

[azure oriole]

No

[azure oriole]

Fr? I’ve counted that there are more arcvilles than Tyrants…gonna try the crucible thingy, tho I wasted a charge on another arcville prev on the level

I think I have an idea: bfg shot one, crucible the other, and double lock and freeze the last one

[azure oriole]

I hope we get a new quake game, that also could connect to eternal after the DLC’s ending

[azure oriole]

That’s what most likely happened, remember that ID/Bethesda we’re committed to launching the OST by April, and so they brought the in house editor at last minute.

Tho the songs that Mick composed are top tier🗣️, specially The Only Thing They Fear Is You, Super gorenest, cultist base, meathook and into sandy’s city

[small mural]

Okay so is the ancient gods soundtrack released at all

Because the blood swamps combat music goes fucking hard

[azure oriole]

Don't count on it

[earnest mulch]

Hello, does anyone know how to take screenshots on Xbox?

[small mural]

Turns out there is a soundtrack for ancient gods pt. 1, and there's technically a soundtrack for pt. 2 but there's no tracklist

[empty basin]

Press Share button then Guide

[azure oriole]

According to Andrew and David Levy: there’s no planned official release, and they really can’t handle that stuff

But there’s the gamerips on youtube, they go hard! Due to Doom Eternal and TAG I stopped my Spotify subscription and I started paying Youtube Music

Blood swamps and UAC Atlantica are my favorites, I didn’t really love TAG2 soundtrack

[small mural]

Holy shit, the game really spiked in difficulty in the last few moments of the ancient gods 1

The samur fight was stupid, I saved up 8 extra lives and only dying maybe once, and then I made it out of the samur fight with 1 left

I can't imagine ever doing that on ultra nightmare

[earnest mulch]

I was referring to photo mode, do you know how to put it on?

[small mural]

People love to complain about arachnos and cacos but nobody complains about whiplashes

Fuck those guys, annoying mfs

[azure oriole]

I find aracnos really easy lmaoo, I just really hate arcvilles. I would prefer all day a tyrant over an arcville

who complains about arachnatrons after reading the tutorial

[small mural]

What I really hate is the mfs who summon shields every time you're trying to move somewhere

They love to put a shield right in front of me when I'm in the middle of my meat hook

[burnt moss]

They’re somewhat of a priority target. Destroyer Blade mod cuts through the shields

[small mural]

Yeah I always go for them first

Usually a well placed ssg shot can instakill them

[waxen field]

The final level used to be even harder, the slayer gate in particular

[small mural]

Yeah the Slayer gate was especially tough

[waxen field]

Before it had three blood maykrs at once, infintely respawning carcasses with the marauders, and some other stuff

[river rock]

Literally just lock on burst or ssg pb ssg

[small mural]

Is it just me or was the Kalibas fight kinda disappointing

[earnest mulch]

Can someone tell me how to put photo mode on Xbox?

[small mural]

The game hyped me up to fight Kalibas, the all-deciding judge of Hell, which sounds really cool but then he just dies really easily

[azure oriole]

You actually remembered his name?

[small mural]

It's a cool name

[empty basin]

Settings -> Game -> turn Photo Mode on, then when you are in a level, you should see a button on your hud to switch into photo mode

[empty basin]

Tried Mars Core ML instead and ugh, I guess this super long-ness applies to all the Master Levels after Cultist Base and ARC Complex on release

Super Gore Nest was also made longer than the base level but I feel like it didn't add too much

Taras Nabad and Mars Core just throws fight after fight after fight and waves after waves after waves that it just feels so long and unending

Or I guess this is just me complaining and I'm the weird one 😩

[small mural]

I have yet to even attempt the master levels so ig I'm not looking forward to that lol

[empty basin]

I guess I won't touch the MLs apart from Cultist Base, ARC Complex and Super Gore Nest

[small mural]

Are they worth it tho?

[empty basin]

They are there to give more content for players who are looking for more challenge

They add different enemy lineup on encounters and most of them alter the level's fight pacing

[small mural]

Yeah I still have to do Ancient Gods 2 and then I have to see what horde mode is and maybe battle mode

And then I have to go back to 2016 to do the secret finding and all that cause I skipped that part to go to eternal

[empty basin]

Cultist Base and ARC Complex were Master Levels included with the release of the game so there was almost no change whatsoever to the level structure

[small mural]

So rn I'm splitting between an extra life mode for the main campaign so I can get the Phobos suit and also ancient gods

And I still have yet to try ultra nightmare at all as well

Given ancient gods 1 got really difficult at the end on only hurt me plenty, I'm interested to see if part 2 is gonna be as hard or even harder

Ngl fighting the seraph was not very much fun

[empty basin]

Yeah DOOM Eternal doesn't really handle boss fights very well most of the time

[small mural]

Yeah, a bunch of the fights before that also spiked in difficulty but those were more fun, like the Slayer gate was exceptionally hard but still a lot of fun to navigate, meanwhile during the boss fight I had to struggle with constantly having low health and no ammo and not being able to move and not being able to shoot the seraph anyways because he would teleport every time I looked at him

[wary badger]

I am currently doing ultra nightmare

And its going gud

I passed through the 3 missions

[sudden pecan]

nice

[azure oriole]

The doom guy said I need 1$ in cash app so he can buy robux

[royal pumice]

personally the doom guy told me to tell you he said fuck off

[azure oriole]

I’m dating the doom guy

Robux 💰

[royal pumice]

okay and? He's my sister's cousin from another mother's dog brother cousin

[azure oriole]

Oh? Ong?

[royal pumice]

on baby

[azure oriole]

True was boring

Bruh…

[wheat fossil]

I killed Khan Makyr on NIGHTMARE first try!!

[burnt moss]

I used sentinel armor on Khan Maykr ITYTD

[slow sigil]

🤢

[summer linden]

Doom eternal is best game ever

[strange gale]

WRONG! the fog is coming

[young mango]

Eh we all start somewhere, I remember my first playthrough ever I had this one arena in nekravol that killed me on ITYTD like… 30 times, and look at me now I’m a half time speedrunner

[kind shell]

We all start somewhere

Juse use lock on burst-PB-lock on burst-meathook-blood punch

[random vault]

WRONG! gas leak

[flint flame]

Deltarune chapter 3

[random vault]

when will it happen

[flint flame]

Tomorrow!

[random vault]

stop lying to me

[young mango]

No way

[flint flame]

Hehe

[sick pilot]

i cant believe mick gordon had problems with his soundtrack

[chilly yoke]

Does anyone know why I can't play the DLC IF I have game pass?

[sick pilot]

it's actually very well made

what DLC? is there a new one?

[safe sorrel]

Both dlc's aren't available for people using game pass subscription you'll need to buy them separately

@chilly yoke

Information from answers.microsoft.com:
After a call from Microsoft support, it turns out that despite what the Xbox App says, the two Doom Eternal DLC's are not currently included in the Game Pass subscription, and actually only the standard edition is. So even thought the Deluxe edition has been downloaded and installed along with the two DLC's, you'll have to purchase the DLC's separately as they are blocked from running.

[river rock]

How much of a damage boost does ice bomb grant?

[dusky light]

hey need help w multiplayer trophies for the plat thats all i got left lol im ps4 if anyones down to help

[gray linden]

yo so for battlemode i always start as slayer but i want to be demon and before i can switch roles the lobby is full, someone help

[young mango]

25%

[river rock]

Alr thanks

[flint flame]

????

“Yeah!! Mick Gordon could’ve just like, talked with the Bethesda execs!!!!!”

[harsh rivet]

anyone have any tips for doing the doubel maurauder fight on SNG master level?

doing it on un and i died there last time

[azure oriole]

Jump around like a monkey while lobbing grenades, sticky bombs, and various other explosive devices at your disposal

[harsh rivet]

alr

that worked lol, thanks for the help

[tiny mural]

Does anyone know how to efficiently kill a baron of hell? I’m trying un and it’s absolutely obliterating me

[harsh rivet]

i would use SSG and ballista and combo with that and use the ice bomb, get close and blood punch it

[tiny mural]

Thanks, would it be efficient as well to use cannon, ballista, ssg and rl?

As well

[harsh rivet]

yeah i think

[tiny mural]

Just for the balance of ammo usage

Because I use that combo all the time on other super heavies

Cheers anyway.

[river rock]

probably the easiest way is to ice bomb then shield slam while firing the chsingun

[nova mica]

anyone down to chill in a call w/ me as i play UN Campaign so i can get tips whilst losing my mind

ples

[flint flame]

Not in that order no

[primal estuary]

uh WRONG!

you only say that because you never played hello kitty online

[burnt moss]

Rocket Lock On Burst

[burnt moss]

Basically same game. Except instead of hello kitty it’s goodbye demon.

[summer linden]

Honestly I've never heard of this

[small mural]

There's really no feeling cooler than blasting meshuggah while murdering demons

[azure oriole]

[small mural]

I also recently found out Mick Gordon was inspired my meshuggah which just makes me love both of them so much more

[muted yew]

im having a hard time with the gladiator phase 2

[spring lance]

Ñ

[azure oriole]

Would be cool if Bethesda decided to add Isabella as a reskin to that little shoulder gun to keep us company

Like her hanging on Doomguy's shoulder with a tiny gun on her hand

[dreamy meteor]

Hey guys just a suggestion for the next doom here, don't you all think it would be insanely cool to fight THE DEVIL as the final boss of the doom franchise? Or the devil does not exist in the doom universe or smth?

[flint flame]

That’s hard to animate

[flint flame]

Bro has not played tag2

[azure oriole]

Low-key thought Davoth was the DEVIL

[flint flame]

He’s both the devil and god.

The twist is that they are one in the same

[dreamy meteor]

LMAOOOOOO forget i even exist

Forgot tag2 because it was very boring

[flint flame]

The problem with having the devil be the final boss, as they did in tag 2, is that it leaves zero room for future titles

[azure oriole]

Why hasn't Doomguy been added as a dlc to mortal Kombat yet?

[flint flame]

Which is why the last cutscene had to show that there’s an even higher power, it’s a shit retcon

[dreamy meteor]

You're goddamn right, because there is nothing to be told before doom 1993 and after eternal do there is literally no more story to tell

[flint flame]

I mean he’s speculated to be in the next mortal kombat character pack so we’ll see if that holds true

[tepid dirge]

I'm trying to beat ultra nightmare. Does anybody have any tips?

[vale pebble]

Chain gun shield

[flint flame]

We still have what happened after 2016 and before eternal but that’s about it

Maybe between 64 and 2016 also

[dreamy meteor]

Please don't use the meathook to get way too close to enemies way too often because your helth js gonna be destroyed

But if you want to do so sometimes you can bc it's fun

[tepid dirge]

Alright, I'll practice that.\

[azure oriole]

Imagine they get desperate and make bro fight his clones

[flint flame]

On the contrary, spam meathook to get infinite armor

[glass dagger]

to be fair most of the story in the expansions is kinda ass

[tepid dirge]

Shouldn't I use meathook to swing around the map?

[flint flame]

Tag1 story was alright, they just retconned everything in it for tag2

[dreamy meteor]

I mean to not get too close to demons like mancubi who have a lot of health and will not be killed in one shot

But like doing it with zombies and soldiers is fine

[glass dagger]

I think making VEGA and Samuel into really important Maykr figures was totally unnecessary

[dreamy meteor]

Imps, hell knights, and etc

[flint flame]

I mean if you ssg shot at mid range, it will falter the demon

[tepid dirge]

Yeah mancubi is probably the biggest problem when there's a big amount of them.

[azure oriole]

We love that bro

[dreamy meteor]

I have beaten ultra nightmare before but my only tip is to not get too cocky and think you're zero master, don't try to jump on groups of 39 mancubi and think you're tearing through all of them like zero master does

[small mural]

Ngl it's really awesome that the chanting near the end of Meathook is actually "Rip And Tear" in sentinel language

[small mural]

I'm replaying the main campaign for the phobos suit rn and I'm realizing they kinda hinted at it from the beginning

I just brought Samuel to the fortress of doom and VEGA pointed out that his robot body is "of similar design to the fortress", which was made by the Kahn Makyr

That and the game alluding to Samuel being regarded as a God by Earth after he returned from Mars with the Crucible

And it does kinda tie up the whole reason why the doomguy was released from the sarcophogus in the first place

They might've retconned doom 2016 but at least ancient gods didn't retcon the main campaign at all

[mighty cave]

[small mural]

[empty basin]

Ugh I finally did it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772588531415384086/1161116960449376346/image.png

[azure oriole]

Impressive work there. Good on you

[empty basin]

thanks 👍

[azure oriole]

Sure thing

[short rune]

Congrats pal

[outer flower]

Hello

[small mural]

Is there a better weapon I could be using than the turret chaingun to destroy the icon of sin's armor?

[small mural]

Nvm, I did it

And finally beat the milestone I've been working on for like the last 3 days

[wary badger]

died to a stupid gargoroil in thte 4th mission

[small mural]

I beat extra life mode on the main campaign with 40 something extra lives, pretty happy with it tbh

Unfortunately didn't realize I wouldn't be able to do mission select after I beat the icon of sin so I missed like 3 toys, but still got most of em

[frigid horizon]

nice yeah you cant go back bcs unlike other collectibles extra lives respawn so you cant go back and rack up 1000 extra lives or something crazy

[small mural]

Yeah I realized that but I figured it wouldn't care after I already beat the icon of sin

[river rock]

I heard that base fire destroys it faster

[small mural]

Base fire?

[river rock]

Of the chaingun

Could be a myth tho, test it out ig

[small mural]

Wait what's the point of the turret mode then

If it does less damage

[river rock]

Normally it does, but apparently to bosses it deals more

Also just beat blood swamps deathless nightmare and now im gonna lose my un save

[river rock]

Did the second trial, now its time for maligog, prolly gonna die

Nice i did it

Holt will kill my sanity

[river rock]

No fucking way

A possesed tyrant in an open arena

[river rock]

The final boss was easier than expected but goddamn that possesed pain elemental was hard to hit

[azure oriole]

is there any relevent tech for the marauder?

i can beat there asses but i want to know if i can do it faster

i know about the lock on rockets and the balista feet thing but is ther anything else i should test ou?

[azure oriole]

Super Shotgun with flaming meathook / Ballista // Hotswap and fast hands for the Super Shotgun. Seeing how to beat him quickly -- Shoot when green eyes with SShotgun, then Ballista shot right after. Repeat until dead (timing can vary but finding that right moment works). Burn and Chainsaw/Glory kill zombies for ammo, health and armor

[empty basin]

A bit of necro-ing here, but apparently capping your FPS to 60 (assuming your device normally goes past that) makes the game easier as enemies does their attack less, since they are FPS-count dependant instead of tick rate-dependant.

[woven karma]

which is the hardest doom game?

coz i feel like eternal is the hardest

its the hardest ive played, ive beat 2016 on all difficulties besides ultra-nightmare coz i dont even think thats possible

[river rock]

Eternal un is much easier than doom 2016 un

[woven karma]

ive not tried eternal un

[river rock]

Also anyone know how to do double dblade?

[woven karma]

whats double dblade

[river rock]

Some glitch rhat lets you fire 2 destroyer blades at the same time

[woven karma]

oh ok

[river rock]

Its from the ballista modification

[woven karma]

i use arbalest tbh

[river rock]

I switch when i need to, arbalest when cacos(usually better to sticky bomb) pain elementals and marauders, and dblade when pretty much anything else ig

[woven karma]

cacos are so easy

just use combat shotgun sticky or regular grenade

i started playing eternal after my dad told me about it, he claims to be better than me but hes just not

i beat all game modes on eternal on hurt me plenty in half the play time than he did half of the campaign

[empty basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkmzij-F858

[flint flame]

That’s is NOT the fast method they’re looking for lol

[flint flame]

Ssg into bfg if you don’t feel like fighting them

[small mural]

Marauders are kinda easy, I just prefer to clear the stage of other enemies before I focus on him. Depending on the arena though that's either impossible or just really annoying to do, especially when he summons a bunch of dogs

[woven karma]

marauders are, just get the right distance and its so easy

[small mural]

Yeah, pretty much

Just annoying when he takes all your focus

[jolly igloo]

Marauders are epic until they’re possessed or buffed

Then they get their ai broken and are unepic :c

[sick pilot]

wait, lemmeh find it. it wasn't just the issue with bethesda

ah wait. now i understand. BECAUSE of the pressure, mick was somewhat not satisfied with his production.

Update 11/16/2022 4:20 p.m. ET: Bethesda has released a statement that strongly objects to the claims made in Gordon’s open letter, saying his post “mischaracterized and misrepresented” id Software and incited harassment and threats of violence against the team. The game developer also stated it has “full and complete documented evidence” to disclose in an “appropriate venue as needed.”

noway mick is such a d1ck?? 😦

prolly the damn capitalists in bethesda talking sheite. good thing M$ bought them.

uh-oh. a mod writing

[acoustic lark]

We dont know what went really down. We shouldnt gaslight any of them. Not bethesda nor mick.
Nor should we spread misinformation and/or rumors.

It is what it is.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sick pilot]

i aint takin sides .. i wasn't aware of all the problems since today.btw, does it mean mick ain't gonna write scores fro bethesda games anymore?

his wolfenstein: new order score was amazing!

[acoustic lark]

I quote mick here:
"Unlikely that we work together in the future"

[sick pilot]

damn it! .. i love iD since rtcw and mick since new order. and now they parted ways? 😢

just reading comments on a german gamer site about the mick gordon - iD thing. someone suggested to get hans zimmer to write music for forthcoming DLCs ... hans zimmer. lmao.
the only dark score by hans zimmer are the batman scores, right? batman begins, batman: the dark knight, batman: the dark knight rises .. or are there any other dark scores?

i love hans zimmer, but doom music by zimmer? 😄

[acoustic lark]

Andrew Hulshult and David Levy did an amazing soundtrack for the DLC's.
I don't think we need to look further.

[sick pilot]

are the scores / soundtracks of both DLCs avl as lossless somewhere?

i see you liked overwatch, @acoustic lark

[small mural]

Where would I be able to read this 'open letter'?

[flint flame]

Nope

[dusky light]

you guys think doom guy listens to bladee

[small mural]

I have the files as mp3s on my computer, I think that's really the best you can get tho

[sick pilot]

okay

[river rock]

Blood swamps💯

[sick pilot]

the songs by hulshult and levy are fine, yea. but gordons music is one of a kind, sort of. just check out the new order soundtrack. the acoustic-guitar tracks. awesome!

[small mural]

Frr, the blood swamps music really caught my attention

[small mural]

This statement is not an excuse for a hate campaign. Acts of hate dished out online won’t result in any positive change. In fact, it only makes things worse.

"Inciting harassment and threats of violence against the team" - Bethesda

[orchid holly]

[small mural]

Okay so I've read Mick Gordon's post about the music, I didn't realize the album had so much behind it

[gritty mauve]

Is there a way to get rid of the red outline on the slayer while in berserk mode?

[brisk portal]

Is it worth beating the game in nightmare before I start un

[gritty mauve]

Probably

[gritty mauve]

?

[flint flame]

Uh…yeah??? Lmao??! Like duh. It’s exactly the same game mode except in has reset upon death and no extra lives

Going from UV to UN is clownery

[brisk portal]

yeah but like

lazy

[flint flame]

Then you’re simply never going to beat un lol

[gritty mauve]

Is there a way to get rid of the red outline on the slayer while in berserk mode?

[slow sigil]

Turn off hud completely?

[gritty mauve]

I did that

It didn’t work

[thorn cave]

Hi, would anyone be willing to help me with my last trophy for plat? just need 97 battlemode kills on ps5

[flint flame]

No

[random vault]

please saber! help a poor fellow!

[dusky light]

helloo

[gleaming locust]

Hey guys I need help with some doom mods

You know how u can use steam games for a doom wad and mod for games like brutal doom and etc

But can you use it for a Microsoft game

Suppose you bought doom 2 from the Microsoft store

Can u still use doom modes for that version

[polar dew]

Is it possible to get skins from old series?

[flint flame]

Maybe

[polar dew]

what is this bullshit

if you didn't play, "oh you have to play 1/6th the game price to get it"

Or it's just not there at all

scratch that, 1/5th

i thought bethesda couldn't get greedier

[flint flame]

It’s not really even a Bethesda thing, it’s really a Microsoft thing. Micro transactions have always been a thing, just doom eternal was the first doom game to have them

[polar dew]

Oh right, yeah microsoft, same company that killed arkane

[flint flame]

But tbf they ran these events for a long time, had re run events too.

[polar dew]

i'm sorry i didn't have an interest in playing doom eternal for years straight, guess that's my fault that i decided to not play games 24/7

[young mango]

And they’re getting infinitely recycled if you just wait long enough, so maybe stop complaining

[polar dew]

oh yeah, wait till i'm burnt out to bring stuff out?

[young mango]

Wat

[polar dew]

that's fun, i guarantee by the time they bring the next series out i'm not going to be interested in grinding out levels

[young mango]

Okay man

[flint flame]

Terrible mindset but pop off

[shadow marlin]

do you guys use q to quick swap or do you directly use the binds for each weapon?

[young mango]

Binds

Q actually leads to a short delay

[shadow marlin]

oh that explains a lot

guess i gotta git gud

[small mural]

Better than paying full price

I'm looking at buying the ember skin soon cause it looks cool, though I might stick with my Phobos skin anyways lol

Actually what I should do is look for cool weapon skins cause I don't have enough weapon skins yet

[polar dew]

"paying 1/5ths a full price for a game just for a few skins is better than paying the same price as the game" yeah, duh, but like why're they making free content paid? especially when as was said they recycle them?

[flint flame]

Used to

[small mural]

Are we talking about the purchasable series skins in doom eternal? Or buying a whole game

[polar dew]

we're talking about the purchasable series skins

[small mural]

Paying (not even) just $10 for not just a skin but a set of skins is a pretty good deal imo

In a lot of other games with microtransactions stuff like that would cost a lot nore

[polar dew]

keep in mind this is content that's free but unnecessarily paywalled

unless you spent all your time grinding out the game since day 1, you won't have gotten these series items, and the only way to get them now is to pay, which is scummy

[small mural]

I think that's better than not being able to get them at all

[polar dew]

or they could, you know, let you able to progress different series'

i.e. just because it's not the exact day that series was out you can use that one and progress your levels towards that one, to unlock the skins in that series

[small mural]

I really don't think it's as big of a deal as you're making it out to be

$8 isn't that much, especially for the amount of stuff that you get out of it and even moreso when compared to the amount of content other games would provide for the same amount of money

[polar dew]

it's still unneccessary mtx for free content

[small mural]

You can always level up the current series to get the free content that's available rn

[polar dew]

this is content that was free, anyone who owned the game could get these items, now they're locked behind paywall for no real reason

[small mural]

I think I just got to max level today actually, and I've only been playing for like a week

[polar dew]

and what if i don't want the stuff in this series?

[small mural]

Then don't level it up

[polar dew]

free stuff is free stuff, i'll always take that, but say i'd rather want something from series 6

[small mural]

And stop being a choosing beggar lol

[polar dew]

i'm not?

[small mural]

They have free content available right now

[polar dew]

"if" not "i don't", this free content isn't bad

My issue is that this is content that was free but if you decided not to play, or couldn't play, you're locked out of it and it's behind a paywall

[small mural]

That's still a lot more than most other games would allow you

[polar dew]

and?

[small mural]

Hence what I mean by choosing beggar

[polar dew]

just because i get some free stuff doesn't mean i can't complain about mtx for stuff that, again, was free behind unseen time codes

Just because I want content that was free timelocked, that is now paid mtx, that's a reason to be upset in some form

[small mural]

There's a doomguy skin in Fortnite that I'd love to spend my money on but it was a battlepass exclusive, meaning it'll never be up for purchase again. I'd love to buy it in a heartbeat but unfortunately most games don't let you obtain old content

[polar dew]

and i'm not defending that?

[azure oriole]

Apologies. For some it can be fast. When I did play Eternal with Cheats after unlocking them, I had a challenge rift with taking out a Marauder within I think 2-3 mins (been a while). I just blasted him with Silver Bullet/Instant Stagger/Infinite Ammo -- I think it was either Rockets or MicroMissiles

[polar dew]

They should let you access older passes so you can earn the content from them and if you pay you don't instantly lose what you didn't yet earn if you didn't grind out the game

[small mural]

I think you just want stuff for free

It's just a game skin (multiple, actually), it's a pretty reasonable price imo

[polar dew]

I want content that was free and earnable by earning it, instead of paying for that very same content just because i didn't know that this content was even happening, and I only found out because there's some that look really good, but I can't access it because it's either locked forever or behind a paywall

And paying for content that was free just feels like I'm getting ripped off, that because I didn't play during a certain time, I have to pay extra just to make up for it

[small mural]

It sucks that the doom eternal collector's edition box sold out before I was a fan of doom so now I have to pay a premium to buy it second hand

That's just the way things are

Still worth it imo, so I'm still going to buy it anyways

[polar dew]

so we're comparing paid content and third party high price resellers to free content being resold by the exact same company for an actual price

[small mural]

The box was originally sold for around $200, now it goes for $400+, sometimes without some of the included content. I'd say that's comparable to free vs $8

[polar dew]

so a 2x markup compared to an undefinable markup? not really comparable

[azure oriole]

It's how a company makes a profit. If they were to sell Doom Eternal with all content available for free, they would lose out since a person purchases it one time, and if there were plenty to order it then a profit would be made. Hence the extra content. Most games are like this nowadays

[small mural]

Still had to pay $60 to own the game to be able to get the skins

[small mural]

Yeah, like I said most games are also worse with this same thing as well. The game is pretty generous letting you get the things at all, let alone at such a cheap price

[azure oriole]

If they did it similar to 2016, then it could of worked with the free updates and all content. But how many more skins are available with Eternal now?

[polar dew]

Doom eternal is paid, the dlcs for game content are paid. You can buy a deluxe edition. Hell, Microsoft owns bethesda, they're multi-billion. Bethesda themselves have lots of money to them and safe games they can rely on. Adding cosmetic mtx for previously free content in a paid game is scummy regardless

[small mural]

I think you're confusing "can't access" with "harder to access"

[azure oriole]

And most is optional. Some DLC maps do need to be purchased but most is still available if one purchased the base game

[polar dew]

considering I don't spend money on cosmetic mtx, especially in free games, it's essentially can't access

[azure oriole]

It is. Hence why I prefer the classics with the Addons compared to Eternal

[small mural]

That's your issue then, if you're just ignoring the possibility of obtaining it

[polar dew]

because i don't want to pay a high amount for content that was free?

[azure oriole]

Doesn't bother me either way

[small mural]

It's pretty low, actually

[polar dew]

in a paid game? also what about the series that aren't paid AND are just gone?

[small mural]

It sounds like you just don't want the stuff for free without having to work

[polar dew]

free content being transitioned to paid content is already too high, unless it's say, an early access/demo being given a price/removed

[azure oriole]

Fair points being made

[polar dew]

I want the stuff for free but I don't want to have it handed on a silver platter. Which is why I suggested being able to have all the series accessible, but only progressing one at a time

You want a specific skin? set your focused series to that one and get to that level that has it, you still have to work for it instead of it just being given

[small mural]

Having the stuff be gone entirely would be worse than being able to get it now, right?

[polar dew]

regardless of what i say, you're gonna spin it to "hypocrit" or "you think mtx is good"

[small mural]

I just don't get why $8 is that big of a deal

[polar dew]

it's not the exact price, it's that it's free content in a paid game transitioned to paid

[small mural]

?

So if it cost $1 you'd still be complaining?

[azure oriole]

Each person sees it differently. I mean, if it was a subscription service, at a low price and there was more than skins, such as maps / weapons / DLC levels for Single and MP, then it might work. But I can't say

[polar dew]

honestly, yeah. it's not the exact price, it's that it's been transitioned from free to paid in a paid game

[small mural]

$1 is basically free

[polar dew]

but it's not. it's still paid, it's still content that's been gone from free in a paid game to paid, regardless of how low

[small mural]

Yeah it's just not that hard to get $8 lol

[polar dew]

and?

[waxen field]

I remember when they said no mtx, they must’ve been inspired by Tod’s sweet little lies

[polar dew]

coffee, you're missing my whole point. it's not "oh it's $8 for a whole series" it's "free items gone to paid mtx in a paid game"

[small mural]

I agree that Bethesda is a shitty company, but I think you're just confusing "inaccessible" with "a little bit harder to get"

[polar dew]

as someone who doesn't buy cosmetic mtx, yeah, it's inaccessible.

[waxen field]

The fact it’s $8 is silly for literal skins, you know the stuff games used to give you for free

[small mural]

You can't get nearly as much stuff for $8 in other games

[polar dew]

I don't support that sort of thing, especially in paid games. you should be able to get all cosmetics (besides deluxe edition, pre-order bonus stuff, etc) for free with the base game, maybe some locked behind gameplay dlcs.

[small mural]

So you're just ignoring the possibility of getting it then lol

[waxen field]

Stockholm syndrome

[polar dew]

again ignoring my point of "it's not that it's $8, it's that it used to be free

[polar dew]

i don't buy cosmetic mtx just because i don't support it, i don't buy cosmetic mtx because i also don't have a good money flow and i try to save the money i get on better things

[waxen field]

You’re to used to getting scammed by modern game if you think that’s a good deal

This is Oblivion Horse armor dlc

[polar dew]

out of other games, $8 for several skins, weapon skins, etc is not bad at all, but it's not "oh wa it's $8", it's that it's paid content that was free in a paid game.

[waxen field]

In other games it’s an even bigger scam

[azure oriole]

Seeing on Steam in Australia, I see your point about cosmetics. On average - the Standard version is $55, plus adding the DLC with Expansions and Cosmetics is an additional $184. Expensive but not compared to EA with addons

[waxen field]

I can buy a whole game for $8

EA is a terrible benchmark

[small mural]

Ooh the series 7 slayer skin is actually awesome I'm gonna buy that rn

[azure oriole]

It is. But I needed a comparison

[waxen field]

Man shitty micro transactions are disturbingly normalized

[polar dew]

here it's £7.39 for a series pack. I can buy some indie game, and if i wait for a sale, i could potentially buy other full games for that amount. Dishonored frequently goes under that price, payday 2 with a good chunk of its gameplay dlc goes under that.

[primal estuary]

not being able to use the skins on the campaign is the worst part

[waxen field]

I bought Mass Effect 2 for $5

[polar dew]

you can?

[azure oriole]

With the Rip and Tear pack - I think it can be used in Solo with the Shotgun

[primal estuary]

demon skins you can't

[polar dew]

OH demon skins specifically

[primal estuary]

yeah

[azure oriole]

They wanted it for MP since that is played more

[polar dew]

people actually play battlemode?

[azure oriole]

If they had SnapMap for Eternal, that would add more value

[primal estuary]

i wanna kill elvis mancubi why is that so hard

[azure oriole]

I'm not sure about Battlemode

[waxen field]

Hollow Knight is $15

[polar dew]

original doom is £4 off sale

[azure oriole]

Bargain. Doom 1/2 is about the same on Steam

[waxen field]

Buy that instead of skins