doom-eternal

[random vault]

"p r a c t i c a l l y"

[upbeat pollen]

saying he is "practically" a normal human like he said isn't the same is saying he "is" a normal human which is what you're saying we said. again you're pulling stuff out your ass

[young mango]

Yea, like he’s not weak by any mean, the dark lord is fucking jacked, but considering the doom slayer is already on captain America level, there isn’t much wiggle room for power scaling, so I said “practically”

[upbeat pollen]

"practically" isn't literally saying that he is a normal human.

[young mango]

But In the grand scheme of things he’s not too far off

[sinful harness]

practically is a comparing like word, unless im thinking of something else

[pseudo flower]

Oh wow you really got me there.

[upbeat pollen]

bro what??

[random vault]

correct, because pracitcally doesnt mean is

[sinful harness]

This is supposed to show a white flag or are you trying to be sarcastic?

[pseudo flower]

I’m being sarcastic

[young mango]

Ew French

[random vault]

LMAO

[sinful harness]

why are you being sarcastic when we countered your so "well-planned" argument?

[upbeat pollen]

unless you're about to provide some actuall evidence that we're "gaslighting" you i'd just come off mate

[pseudo flower]

You’re gaslighting me right now. Telling me that you guys never said he was a normal human.

Then I literally quoted tammie saying that was word for word a normal human. Then you guys are like ""ᑭᖇᗩᑕTIᑕᗩᒪᒪY"" like it's some kind of checkmate gotcha.
It's like arguing with eric cartman.

[upbeat pollen]

it took you 5 minutes to say that

[young mango]

Stop using buzzwords

[upbeat pollen]

bro he didnt mean it literally. thats our point

[young mango]

You do not know what gaslighting is, I dare you, I triple dog dare you to tell me what the definition is without googling it

[upbeat pollen]

hes gonna google it watch

[random vault]

this hurt to read, please stop saying stupid buzzwords you heard online and just talk like a normal human

thats not what gaslighting is, practically isnt the same as is, and davoth isnt a human, hes a god, a weak one, but a god

[pseudo flower]

Gaslighting is just another form of lying.

Making someone doubt themselves n shit like that

[young mango]

That’s not the definition

[upbeat pollen]

you need to go back to school and learn english because saying something is "practically" something else isnt the same as saying it is "literally" something else

[random vault]

thats not what it is, to gaslight is to manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning.

[sinful harness]

practically can be a counter, in every case? No, but in this one yes. We aren't 'gas lighting' we are informing you that, that's not what we said

[pseudo flower]

That's not the only form of gaslighting

[random vault]

telling you that the wrong thing you said is wrong isnt gaslighting its pointing out your error

[sinful harness]

adding on ^^^^

We are just correcting the error or just flat out telling you that's not the case

[upbeat pollen]

how did we go from discussing Davoth to getting accused of gaslighting @young mango @random vault @sinful harness

[random vault]

because this person thinkings being called out for being wrong is gaslighting

[sinful harness]

I just came here to see if anyone else collected all the toys

[pseudo flower]

He literally called him a normal human right here bro

[upbeat pollen]

im not even close but im going through the game again and im gonna try and find all collectables including keys

[sinful harness]

practically is still not a synonym for "is"

[sinful harness]

BRO THE KEYS ARE SO WORTH IT, you know what they're for right?

[random vault]

practically does not mean is, how hard is that to understand

[upbeat pollen]

YES I NEED UNMAYKR

[random vault]

the unmaykr is cool but i think the bfg is more useful

[pseudo flower]

Oh so it doesn't mean that now alluva sudden?

[sinful harness]

BRO TRUST ME, GO BACK TO "UNMAYK THE MAYKR" WITH INFINITE AMMO PLEASE ITS SO MUCH FUN

[random vault]

IT HAS NEVER MEANT THAT???? SINCE WHEN HAS IT??????

are you non-native to english or something

[upbeat pollen]

THATS WHAT WE HVE BEEN SAYING BRO WE HAVE LITERALLY STATED THAT PRACTICALLY DOES COMPARES SOMETHING IN A NON LITERAL SENSE

they're trolling they have to be

[random vault]

nobody respond anymore, its bait from here on out

[pseudo flower]

Since everyone on the Internet started overusing that word to point where it has no meaning like "literally."

[young mango]

Okay

[sinful harness]

I agree, but then again the bfg is kinda annoying to use imo

[upbeat pollen]

being overused on the internet does not get rid of a words meaning

last im responding

[pseudo flower]

It actually does.

[upbeat pollen]

whatever you say

[sinful harness]

nuh uh

[upbeat pollen]

tf you mean "nu uh??"

[random vault]

me when i have absolutley 0 reading comprehension skills

[upbeat pollen]

speach 0

[random vault]

bro even said speach

[calm garden]

the hell happened here?

[random vault]

notin

[upbeat pollen]

you dont wanna know dont get sucked in

[calm garden]

ight

[sinful harness]

I thought that key room was supposed to be a thing for the crucible, but then was dissapointed that it wasn't, then extremely happy to see the unmaykr

[upbeat pollen]

i had seen videos of dme (doom eternal) and new that the crucible was something you get as a quest reward and not a side quest reward

[sinful harness]

I thought it was an add on, or like a second crucible

[calm garden]

im gonna shit my opinion here
the best toy in eternal is the hell knight and the cyber mancubus

[sinful harness]

honsetly, based

[random vault]

you mean the hammer?

[upbeat pollen]

i prefer the gladiator because the toy is blue my fav colour

[sinful harness]

hammer????

[upbeat pollen]

no i mean the unmaykr

[upbeat pollen]

quest reward in the ancient gods dlc

[calm garden]

2nd place imo goes to cyberdemon

[sinful harness]

oh mb

[random vault]

tag 2

[upbeat pollen]

although i dont have all toys yet i cant make a deffinitive descision im just going off of the toys i currently have

[calm garden]

on my first playthrough i really wanted to get all the toys so i just did that

[upbeat pollen]

ive already beat the game so im just going through the levels again to get 100%

[calm garden]

nice, i 100% the campaign besides the master levels, i really dont wanna beat those 💀

[sinful harness]

i wanna try those

idk how easy/hard they are tho

[upbeat pollen]

its basically more difficult versions of levels but its more difficult than ultra-nightmare. like ultra-nightmare on serious steroids

[sinful harness]

im too much of a shitter at the game for that nuh uh bro 💀

[calm garden]

tyrant on the start of super gore nest when doing classic mode 💀

[upbeat pollen]

oh no TnT

[random vault]

minecraft

[flint flame]

First crucible you get in arc complex is from doom 2016, and it serves as a battery for the ship. The second one is obtained later

[sinful harness]

whats the second one?

[random vault]

hi saber

[upbeat pollen]

slayer crucible

the one you fight with

[sinful harness]

ohhhh im so slow im sorry 💀

[upbeat pollen]

nah its all good dw about it

[tiny vortex]

I tried doing nightmare difficulty and I gave up on the second mission

[calm garden]

same

[upbeat pollen]

damn i got no chance

[calm garden]

except i did ultra nightmare

[sinful harness]

i want to get the last three (???) milestones i have left, but its ultra nightmare and one crystal and one suit token

then smth else

[upbeat pollen]

bro how do only 77.9% of players beat the first mission on pc???

[sinful harness]

i have no idea

oh wait, people might do the thing with only multi and not campaign

[upbeat pollen]

ahh

[small shale]

anyone know how those youtube guys like sylar get those tyrants standing still so they can practice combos?

i want to practice on something but idk how to

[mellow otter]

What seems to be the most difficult part for you guys on Ultra Nightmare Campaign?

[flint flame]

Probably the forced “sign in to your Bethesda.net account to fully experience doom eternal” scared people off

[flint flame]

Cultist base is the widely agreed upon hardest part of un

[upbeat pollen]

not gamer enough to attempt it im affraid

[mellow otter]

The first 3 levels are the most difficult. Mostly becuae of tight corridors and hordes of demons thrown at you much sooner than doom 2016

You're also under equipped to deal with half the demons thrown at you as well

So getting upgrades as soon as possible is necessary

[upbeat pollen]

ok

[mellow otter]

If you guys need tips i can provide pointers to help

[sinful harness]

isnt ultra nightmare pretty much just hardcore minecraft

[mellow otter]

Not exactly

The biggest tip is taking what you need on ultra nightmare

The earliest mod your going to get with ease is the combat shotgun's grenade mod

Use this for fodder and weakpoints on the arachnotrons early game

Its going to be the bread and butter for the first level. And then when you encounter cacodemons use the grenade mod to feed the cacos for fast GKs

[young mango]

In order my hardest levels from hardest to easiest:
Cultist base
Hell on earth
Exultia
Sentinel prime
Taras Nabad
Arc complex
Doom hunter base
Super gore nest
Final sin
Mars core
Urdak
Nekravol pt2
Nekravol

[mellow otter]

SGN is the easiest level out of all the UN levels

[young mango]

Yes

Speedrunning it is a real hastle though

Fun tho, but hard.

[mellow otter]

Thehardest id say is Sentinel Prime

Because of the arena fight against a boss there

[young mango]

Sentinel prime is definitely a difficulty spike in UN runs

[mellow otter]

After sentinel prime if you can get past it the last few levels before the final level are a cakewalk on UN

[young mango]

Yea after sentinel prime your run is pretty much guaranteed

[mellow otter]

Urdak is a disappointing and probably the easiest boss fight of un levels

Underwhelming tbh

[young mango]

Urdak is amazing for speedruns

[mellow otter]

Just stay airborne

Which isnt hard to do since ypur target is literally flying

[flint flame]

Ehhh there’s tons of resources already available

[mellow otter]

Fair enough

[brittle tide]

Just beat TAG2 a few days ago what should be next on the docket? Master Levels or Horde Mode?

[rich cosmos]

Never hurts to try, who knows you might get pretty far

[young mango]

Probably master levels, they came first, or whichever one you think you’ll enjoy more, horde mode was quite disappointing imo

[brittle tide]

I like the idea of it, but having limited weapons turned me off

I just wanna have my entire arsenal as is so I guess Master Levels it is

[flint flame]

Okay

[brittle tide]

probably should ramp it back to UN myself

did HMP for the second time just to relearn the game but did beat it on UN a couple years back

[azure oriole]

I went straight inside your mom last night

[lyric mortar]

What does it mean if I’m not getting the zombie slayer skin after linking my Bethesda.net Account and joining the Slayers Club?

[azure oriole]

Who stuck on the shell?

[small shale]

try restarting ur game

[small shale]

tbh i find cultist base a bit easier than other levels like hell on earth since the fights are honestly pretty tame and if you just use quickswitch or lobs its pretty easy

u also get ice bomb so the snake guys are ez to kill

hardest level is definitely hell on earth because it makes me want to throw my pc against the wall whne i hear king novik for the millionth time

[lunar temple]

hi, everyone! I'm new to doom eternal (I got it recently on console) and I had a few questions that I can't find concrete answers for anywhere

[edgy summit]

?

[lunar temple]

do the event cosmetics come back eventually or did I just miss em through lack of playing the game when it came out?

I really wanna get the doom 64 skin and I heard it was an event skin, but also a limited time skin?

[edgy summit]

I believe some do, but a lot are gone forever, idk about the doom 64 skin someone else is gonna have to tell you

[lunar temple]

aw dang, that's no good

[hollow lynx]

Just got demon tier 10 today!

[flint flame]

It’s in one of the mega events, which each last 3 months. You’ll just have to wait for it to come back (if it’s not out now)

It used to be one event per month, but having 4 events cycle through the year makes it easier for them and also they make money off purchases for the other cosmetics

[lunar temple]

oh shoot, okay o: thanks! I'll definitely keep my eye out for it!

[lyric mortar]

I tried that multiple times, it still didn’t work…

[hollow lynx]

imorran skin for dread knight kinda disapointing

[fast blade]

what do yall think of using the simply faster movement and quicker weapon switch mods?? is it fair or nah? playing some UAC Atlantica and Immora ML's.

[drifting forge]

Nice one of my friend has like 117 levels I'll never reach him being the ass i am

[young mango]

Anything that’s not base base physics is an advantage, if you wouldn’t use it in a speedrun I wouldn’t exactly call it “fair”, it’s okay just don’t get too cozy with it is all I’m saying, also don’t use quicker weapons switch because all quickswitch combos become awkward, pb sticky, pb rocket, and others become impossible

[fast blade]

tru. I just sometimes feel like the game's delay does not match up with my reflexes (not trying to brag and I think a lot of people will relate to this) But I had my fun with those two advantages now Ill take em out and see if i can do the same lul

[drifting forge]

Lol i went into repent and seethe mode as soon as i realised I didn't buy the precision shoot weapon mod at the start

[fast blade]

btw immora master level by kovaz is so sick

on my 500 hrs of play time on this game I just figured out how to mod and Im falling in love with the game again

[azure oriole]

trial of maligog shouldve been the fight with that huge ass titan

[young mango]

Well I wouldn’t want just an icon of sin clone.

[azure oriole]

who said they shouldve cloned it

that would be dumb.

[lyric mortar]

I unfortunately play on console…

[azure oriole]

quicker weapon switch is possible even without mods but sinply faster movement is too much
would rather use blood fueled

[mellow quarry]

Same

[slow sigil]

Hugo has said a lot of things, not everything can be true

If you take everything as what hugp said as 100% canon, the story will really suffer

[lethal crypt]

bouta start a UN playthrough. any tips?

[random vault]

dont die

[narrow oyster]

You can't die if you don't take damage, keep your movement going and you'll be fine!

[lethal crypt]

Thanks!

[lusty pendant]

Some folks go thru a nightmare playthru on the side.

They play the mission they're at so long until they can reliable play it without dying and then do it on their un save

[lethal crypt]

quite clever

[drifting forge]

Just get chain gun damage protec and waste playing the game

[azure oriole]

And I thought I was the only one who used this strat

[azure oriole]

Halo

I need help

[drifting forge]

Sure tell us

We'll try to help

[azure oriole]

Im not sure what rune to pick

taras nabad ml classic mode is hell

Huh

[azure oriole]

how many do you have

what level

0

[azure oriole]

oh first rune
pick air control

Hurt me plenty

Oh then it means its really good because i asked wimmy too and he said the same thank you

ye

[drifting forge]

I'll tell you some other to confuse you

But yes i went with air control

[azure oriole]

yo the

WHAT, why are my arms BLUE

Help?

[azure oriole]

How do i get there,oh wait i cant post a pucture, who whants to help me watch on screenshots

[jaunty vapor]

2 things:

1, you could post a link to your message in screenshots after you've posted it there.

2, you get dash later in the level.

[azure oriole]

I have the dash

And what is that thing?

[stone imp]

Will my ps4 doom eternal skins transfer to microsoft store doom eternal?

And dlcs

If i use same bethesda account

[empty drum]

Slayer testament 1: In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his soul blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his sword named him... the Doom Slayer.

Slayer testament 2: Tempered by the fires of Hell, his iron will remained steadfast through the passage that preys upon the weak. For he alone was the Hell Walker, the Unchained Predator, who sought retribution in all quarters, dark and light, fire and ice, in the beginning and the end, and he hunted the slaves of Doom with barbarous cruelty; for he passed through the divide as none but demon had before.

Slayer testament 3: And in his conquest against the blackened souls of the doomed, his prowess was shown. In his crusade, the seraphim bestowed upon him terrible power and speed, and with his might he crushed the obsidian pillars of the Blood Temples. He set forth without pity upon the beasts of the nine circles. Unbreakable, incorruptible, unyielding, the Doom Slayer sought to end the dominion of the dark realm.

Slayer testament 4: The age of his reckoning was uncounted. The scribes carved his name deep in the tablets of Hell across eons, and each battle etched terror in the hearts of the demons. They knew he would come, as he always had, as he always will, to feast on the blood of the wicked. For he alone could draw strength from his fallen foes, and ever his power grew, swift and unrelenting.

Slayer testament 5: None could stand before the horde but the Doom Slayer. Despair spread before him like a plague, striking fear into the shadow-dwellers, driving them to deeper and darker pits. But from the depths of the abyss rose The Great One, a champion mightier than all who had come before. The Titan, of immeasurable power and ferocity. He strode upon the plain and faced the Doom Slayer, and a mighty battle was fought on the desolate plains. The Titan fought with the fury of the countless that had fallen at the Doom Slayer's hand, but there fell the Titan, and in his defeat the shadow horde were routed.

[vivid nest]

DYNO DO NOT

[empty drum]

Slayer testament 6: And in his terrible rancor between worlds and through time, the Hell Walker found the wretch who shall not be named, but in his heresy was loyal to his evil cause. The wretch adorned the Doom Slayer in a mighty armor, wrought in the forges of Hell, impenetrable and unyielding. With sword and shield of adamantine strength, the Doom Slayer set to banishing all that were left unbroken by his savagery to the void.

Slayer testament 7: Yet as the mighty Titan fell and dread engulfed the armies of Doom, the demon priests of the Blood Temples laid a trap to capture this scourge of Hell. Insatiable, even by the vanquishing of the Great One, the Hell Walker sought prey in the tombs of the Blood Keep. And blinded by his fervor, the lure drew him in. The priests brought down the temple upon the Doom Slayer, and in his defeat entombed him in the cursed sarcophagus. The mark of the Doom Slayer was burned upon his crypt, a warning to all of Hell that the terror within must never be freed. There he lies still, and ever more, in silent suffering.

[vivid nest]

amazing

[stone imp]

Will my ps4 doom eternal skins and dlcs transfer to microsoft store doom eternal If i use same bethesda account ?

[vivid nest]

they should idk

[unborn dove]

i agree only because the current trial is pissing me off so much rn

[frozen gulch]

Did arc have any success fighting against the demon horde with their mechs or did they just utterly fail?

[azure oriole]

seeing how samuel hayden ended up
they did not put up much of a fight ig

[frozen gulch]

Well that sucks, cause their equivalents of the atlans looked really damn cool

[azure oriole]

atlans actually fight the hellspawn titan in tag 2

maybe they didn't use it in arc cuz less space

or the atlan titan was still in the fortress of doom

[frozen gulch]

Yeah I remember, it was really cool seeing the night sentinels come to doomguys aid one final time.

[slow sigil]

it took like 6 years before the demons overran earth so take that however you want

[frozen gulch]

Wait they were fighting for six years?! I thought it was like a few months but if that's the case that changes everything

[azure oriole]

@azure oriole If the night sentinels got the message that the doom slayer is on a journey to beat the dark lord in world spear
The torch of kings
Why didn't they come to help sooner?

They just spawn in immora lmao

[slow sigil]

likely where still gearing up

there hasn't been put a lot of thought in the sentinels appearing in immora

[frozen gulch]

I was just about to say they were probably saving their strength for a final payback

[azure oriole]

hmm

[frozen gulch]

I actually am working on a doom oc that was a UAC elite guard that survived the events of doom 2016. As for why he didn't die do to Olivia sabotage, his kill chip malfunctioned do it didn't get his brain when she pulled the plug.

He was supposed to have fought his way out of the mars facility with a boost from a night sentinel artifact and boarded a shuttle to one of the martian moon bases.

I was wondering if it works or he a stretch for anyone to have survived and escaped mars during doom 2016?

[azure oriole]

The cutscene implies Valen most likely rounded them up.

That would've taken a long time judging by how fractured the Argenta were by now. His "army" wasn't proper, it was a collection of Sentinel tribes.

[robust elk]

I hate turrets graah!!!

[azure oriole]

i see

[frozen gulch]

Huh didn't know they had tribes but I love that idea, does my thing hold water?

[slow sigil]

after the argenta civil war they where scattered so yeah kinda tribed

[azure oriole]

The idea works, and can fit with what is shown in Doom 2016.

[frozen gulch]

Woohoo, it's crucible wielding time in that case.

My final question is do crucibles need like a constant supply of argent energy or wraith energy? Or do they just power indefinitely?

Also were those wraiths that were lost in argent D Nur the only ones? I'm wondering if there might be more or if the argenta get their wraith energy supply from somewhere else

[azure oriole]

It's unclear but I believe Crucibles can work for a decent amount of time without an energy source as long as it was exposed to Wraith Energy first, like the Slayer's. They retain enough power that the Slayer's kept the Dreadnought asleep for like a million years, but that may have been an interaction unique to it.

On the Wraiths - Hell had a gigantic supply of Wraiths. Since the Maykrs had access to the World Spear (which has thousands of sleeping Wraiths in it) one can presume that if Hell loses access to the Wraiths from the Well, Urdak can just get them more.

Which is likely what happened after Doom 2016.

By modern day though, the Sentinels didn't get their energy from the Wraiths - they'd renounced the Wraiths and begun using Argent from Nekravol.

[frozen gulch]

Wait I thought it was the other way around? The loyal ones renounced using argent and went back to using wraith energy?

[azure oriole]

The loyal ones are all dead now.

Those were the Night Sentinels on the Slayer's side. They were betrayed by the Deag and slaughtered in Hell. Nowadays, Argenta is at the whims of the Khan and the Deag Priests.

[frozen gulch]

Aren't the ones that come help out the doom slayer in TAG 2 loyal?

[azure oriole]

Nah, those are modern-day Argenta who have been rounded up by Valen.

[frozen gulch]

I see, I have another question but would it have been possible for an ancient argenta warrior to end up on earth? Teleporter accident or something that kept them from participating in that last stand?

Now that I think about it, I wonder if there was some kind of evacuation of the argents colony on Mars to earth when the hell invasion started and they couldn't repel it

[frozen gulch]

I'll let these be my final question questions but it was mentioned that the uac elite guard were augmented and I was wondering is there anything that mentions what these augmentations were?

Also is the spider mastermind resemblance to maykr stuff just a coincidence or the first hint at the connection between the two?

[azure oriole]

The Argenta had been on Earth back during the prehistoric age, and their ancestors are the humans. The Argenta we see in TAG2 aren't ancient, though - just normal Argenta people who likely hadn't even seen the Slayer before, and had grown up under the Khan's rule.
If you wanted you could write about some stasis accident or something that would allow for an Argenta soldier from the lore to end up in the modern day.

[azure oriole]

The UAC Elite Guard were augmented but it's unclear how. I believe it's just that their suits were super advanced.
The resemblance between the Mastermind and the Khan is just coincidence. The Khan doesn't naturally look like that - she became partially organic thanks to the Transfiguration. In their natural state, Maykrs are 100% synthetic.

[signal spear]

For what?

[robust elk]

Because i hate them i dont need to explain

[signal spear]

Ok

[open cloak]

i just fnished the game in nightmare for the first time omg it was so hard

[ivory tundra]

Yes I Washington triyng the same but i couldn't reach ultraviolence mode

[ivory tundra]

Was

[azure oriole]

there are no achievements for ultra nightmare

damn what's the point

[robust elk]

Fun

[obtuse whale]

https://tenor.com/view/ghetto-smosh-smosh-ghettosmoshcom-gas-station-weed-gas-station-tweakers-gif-26253454

[robust elk]

What

[obtuse whale]

idk

[pearl lotus]

Gold slayer ig

[heady portal]

Doom mayk me shid myself

[jade jewel]

i just started the ancient gods dlc 1 and im confused why it turns into ghost busters

[young mango]

Wdym

Are you talking about spirits

[jade jewel]

yes

because the microwave beam reminds me of the laser type thing they use

[flint flame]

Imagine playing a game just to get the achievements, could not be me

[azure oriole]

bruh neither do i
but still

shouldnt it be default

and there are people who play for achievements.

not everyone is like you

[mellow otter]

Well damn. I punched an enemy and now my guy's fist glitched out in front of him locking me from my weapons on Urdak 😭

[robust elk]

It
Isnt ghe deafult?

[robust elk]

You have other difficulties you know

[azure oriole]

yes

[robust elk]

If you want achievements you have the milestones

[young mango]

There is an achievement, ingame, it’s called “escaped the madness”, it gives you the gold skin and the immortal name tag, as for why it’s not shown on steam, it would’ve been too hard for the average player to 100% the game

Other than that man just play for fun

[slender island]

hi

[upbeat pollen]

hello people

[minor hornet]

My mouse is stuck in the middle of the screen after I opened my steam overlay, how do I fix this?

[fierce hemlock]

How do u get that

[young mango]

By beating ultra nightmare on the main campaign in doom eternal

[fierce hemlock]

Oh damn

I’m trying to get the two dlc

[frozen gulch]

Oh no I hadn't planned on that argenta to end up in modern earth, that uac elite guard character I'm doing was supposed to have been descended from an argenta which is why the artifact he took responded to him.

[frozen gulch]

Wait where was stated the maykrs are 100% synthetic? I thought they all wore armor to cover their organic bits because it frightens smaller races.

[azure oriole]

Per The Betrayal of the Father, the Maykr race was crafted as machines by Davoth, having been made to work in unison.

[flint flame]

Dang, I’m the bad guy for wanting to play games for fun, got it

[azure oriole]

Maykr lore consistently refers to Maykr souls and constructs with terms like soul-data and neural matrix. The Maykrs are AIs - machines in unison with the rest of each other and the Father.

The Transfiguration, now warped by the Father's disappearance, keeps them from undergoing their natural life-death cycle of degradation, return of the soul to the Singularity, and rebirth. Now, their machine-vessels degrade into flesh and blood, turning them into organic monsters incapable of holding souls meant for machinery.

[frozen gulch]

So does transfiguration still happen to the drones and other lesser maykrs or only the high ranking maykrs like the Khan and seraphim?

[azure oriole]

Transfiguration normally impacts all Maykrs. During Eternal and the lore, the Maykrs are staving off the Transfiguration with Argent Energy.

[ivory tundra]

How are you?

[upbeat pollen]

im good. hbu

[ivory tundra]

Hi everyone someone likes to play tomorrow with me private battles of batelmode?

If anyone wants they can chat me on the private chat

[ivory tundra]

I'm fine

[upbeat pollen]

ill keep that in mind but i dont usually play battlemode

[ivory tundra]

Ok thanks

I wanted to play battlemode because i'm New and I want to try it

I'm on taras nabad ultraviolence campaign

[gusty basin]

SAME! Does anybody know why the game recommends to finish up the cultist base mission before playing battle mode?

[ivory tundra]

I think that is because is very dificult and they apear some demons that you don't know how to beat them

[frozen gulch]

I wonder if making some kind of hybridized body would help them keep it together.

[slow sigil]

because the battlemode "tutorial" is in there

[gusty basin]

Ohhh I see, thanks!

That's a bit odd tbh

[slow sigil]

I mean battlemode has a tutorial of itself aswell

[gusty basin]

So...there's a tutorial in cultist base but also in general?

[flint flame]

They force you to play as a demon in cultist base to shoot at some other npc demons. The tutorial that’s in the battlemode tab teaches you all the demons and general movement. The cultist base one is just to show off that you can play as demons in battlemode

[gusty basin]

Woahh that's a cool concept actually. Playing as a demon seems kinda cool ngl

[placid roost]

you guys have any tips for battlemode as the slayer

[edgy summit]

No but I love your name

[placid roost]

thanks

[tacit orchid]

At first glance it is, unfortunately it falls kinda flat fast. Unless you have people to play around with, not that engaging in the long run.

[gusty basin]

😬 I see

[proper basin]

can someone telll me

what this ballista skin is called been ive wondering, its like purple, green, and yellow

[tacit orchid]

Battle Mech

[fallow siren]

SnapMap for Eternal when?
Infinite content guys

[tacit orchid]

Never unfortunately

[proper basin]

how do you get it?

[tacit orchid]

Part of some series, might be unreachable at this point, lemme see

If Mega Events are rerunning, which I still see them doing so, it might be then a part of any of that. Just look at when Viva Las Vega will be a part of it, and that is where the skin is.

[proper basin]

ah

[flint flame]

That’s funny

[random vault]

https://tenor.com/view/whatldo-whatldoo-gif-21433439

[granite bolt]

Is this the right place to make questions regarding events?

[cold chasm]

I think?

[granite bolt]

Alright, i just wanna know if the Doom 64 Marine skin will come back in any mega event.

[flint flame]

Yes

It is in fact in one of them

[granite bolt]

Welp

great

[gloomy fulcrum]

How kuch damage to sticky bombs do?

I need a reason to use standard shotgun :(

[strange gale]

400 base, 800 on a crit (weakpoint break or headshot)

[jaunty vapor]

350 splash, 50 direct to be precise, with no diminishing returns on the explosion so that's a full 350 to pretty much everything

[strange gale]

csg does 320 normally, and i believe 400 on a headshot? the multiplier isn't 1.25 universally

[jaunty vapor]

everything in the blast*

also if it's a crit on the 1 enemy the whole explosion is doubled to 700 damage

[jaunty vapor]

Pretty sure CSG doesn't actually get the headshot bonus (full auto doesn't at the very least, and i think it uses the same damage?)

It can technically headshot Maykr Drones but i don't think it actually does increased damage... it's weird.

[strange gale]

wonderful

[jaunty vapor]

CSG would be too good if it could headshot /s

[gloomy fulcrum]

How much does a rocket do

[jaunty vapor]

Damage values are pinned.

#doom-eternal message

But tl;dr 600 splash, 300 impact.

Lock-on rockets are 875 impact, 25 splash.

Remote det is like... 400 splash, I think? Although for some reason Remote Det has massive damage falloff.

[azure oriole]

Bloodshot. What are your hopes for the next doom game

[jaunty vapor]

That there's speedrun support. Or at the very least modding support of some kind. 🤷

[gloomy fulcrum]

So are stickies good for anything

[jaunty vapor]

If you mean at a basic "what kind of content the game has", I dunno. I like Eternal's systems, albeit I think a few things are a bit unbalanced, either too poorly or too strongly. I think a better use of the Health/Armor for Blood mechanic would be cool to incentivize push forward combat in the thick of a fight/good restacking, etc.

Thing is, the big quote that people point at is "Doom Eternal made the player feel like a racecar, while the next game will make the player feel like a Monster Truck" or something to that vein.

My guess is the next game will be more based around parrying/weakpoints. Marauder design stands out in Doom Eternal but would probably be "normal" in a game based around that. It could be interesting, could design enemies in a way where their behaviors change based on if you shoot weakpoints or not (for instance, Carcass generate shields until you blow their batteries, in which case they only beyblade. Not necessarily nerfing them, just changing their dynamic mid-fight). I don't think that kind of game design is bad, just different and not necessarily what I'd like (I like the speed/fluidity Eternal has).

[jaunty vapor]

Stickies are fantastic and generally an A tier weapon, maybe B tier at worst. They one-shot most of the fodder even if you don't hit directs, and especially if you're cognizant of Sticky-crits, you can one-shot all fodder. And the damage it does to heavies is pretty good too.

This isn't even considering PB-Stickies, which while technically not as damaging as PB-Rockets, also don't USE rocket ammo, and also don't have the potential to do self-damage.

Stickies are pretty much good at all levels of play due to how easy they are to use for how damage efficient they actually are.

They're not OP or anything but they're definitely "always good" to use.

Plus, the alternative is Full Auto 🤷

[gloomy fulcrum]

I just wish the shotgun itself was good

[gloomy fulcrum]

PB?

[jaunty vapor]

Precision Bolt.

[gloomy fulcrum]

Oh

In my experience PB stickies takes longer like, the swap takes longer I dunno why

[jaunty vapor]

It's the same ROF as PB-Rockets.

[gloomy fulcrum]

Also I usually swap between like 4 weapons during combos should I not be doing that?

[jaunty vapor]

You should not.

[gloomy fulcrum]

Maybe I am not holding down mouse 2

And either way I never really use pb rockets when pb lock on exists

[gloomy fulcrum]

I probably still will as it looks sick

[jaunty vapor]

Basically, PB has a weird property where it has the fastest put away time/swap time (i forget which), and that transfers to the next weapon you fire. In the case of Stickies and Rockets, these maintain that swap speed into PB, so you can quickly fire between PB-Rocket more than you can other weapons (like PB-Ballista)

[gloomy fulcrum]

I'm a scrub on Ultra-Violence yk

[gloomy fulcrum]

Oh that would explain it

I'd do Ballista stickies which is def slower then

Ballista my beloved <3

[jaunty vapor]

For reference this is an average speed of what PB-Rocket looks like.

https://youtu.be/C1Ac4wfREaA?t=144

The gladiator fight after that timestamp shows it off a bit better. And again, PB-Stickies can be the same speed/rate of fire.

[gloomy fulcrum]

Looks dope

Ballista is my choice though

[azure oriole]

In Hugo we trust

This emote is the most 2000s thing ever

[random vault]

is that new

[young mango]

It’s odd because BATS pb rocket is slower because the precision bolt takes more time to come up after BATS

[azure oriole]

some people enjoy the process of getting achievements
there made it simple for you to understand

[azure forum]

It's ok to play for achievements to finish the game by doing such things. Cheesing achievements to say "look I finish the game" is a different thing

[dim ermine]

I just finished DOOM and wanted to get eternal, so i downloaded it, but every time i try to launch it it says "could not enurmerate graphics devices." I looked it up and it said i had to disable and renable my graphics card. I did that and it seemed to launch while it was off, but it was very laggy. I turned it back on and it wasn't launching again. Does anyone know a fix?

[safe sorrel]

@dim ermine Try doing the same with your cpu integrated graphics if doesn't help re enable it and updated drivers for your cpu and gpu

You have nvidia and intel combo?

Also you can add doom eternal to be run on dedicated graphics card in the settings to do that open windows 10 settings go to system then scroll down and you will see a small blue text that says graphics settings enter it and then click browse add doom eternal in there you can find it by going that way SteamLibrary>steamapps>common then enter doom eternal folder and select the game .exe file

Try to do a clean graphics driver install you can search on how to do it on YouTube

Also you can use an older driver this might help cause newer drivers arent so well optimised and can sometimes mess with some games

You can find how to do it on YouTube as well

@dim ermine

[flint flame]

Idk man, forcing yourself to play the game just so you can get some shiny pixels doesn’t sound like fun to me

[azure oriole]

not to you yea
enjoyment comes in different forms

the reward isnt the best part its the process

[slow sigil]

I don't get the problem

Just.... don't do UN then?

[azure oriole]

the process of doing UN

and the bragging rights

[slow sigil]

Well i mean, you said this

[distant burrow]

i finally bought the ancient gods

[azure oriole]

you do something this challenging and it doesnt give you an achievement
at least you get a skin to show your work

[slow sigil]

I mean, again, if you want achievments just don't do UN then

[azure oriole]

in minecraft there is an achievement called how did we get here and you get it by doing very challenging thinga

[azure oriole]

there is a milestone

[slow sigil]

Problem solved

[azure oriole]

i think you also get immortal title

ultra nightmare is quite a drag tbf

[slow sigil]

Yeah, that's why i stopped doing it

Didn't get joy in doing it so stopped

[azure oriole]

i get
repeatedly dying does not sound fun

the dlcs on un are fine

[flint flame]

Shiny pixel on profile is bragging right

[azure oriole]

a screenshot of beating un is also bragging rights.

[vivid nest]

the gold skin isnt fucking worth it all imo

[azure oriole]

it isnt but at least you get to show off

[vivid nest]

as a person who has beat un i can confirm u get bragging rights if u beat un

[vivid nest]

hell yeah

[azure oriole]

ye some people dont get it

[flint flame]

🥱

You’re not doing it to beat un, in fact you said “what’s the point of doing un if it doesn’t have an achievement.” Sure un has bragging rights, but your intention wasn’t un, it was shiny pixels for 100%’ing.

If that’s how you find enjoyment out of a game then so be it

Oh and that’s not to mention how you can easily save scum un. So instead of basing your happiness off what the game’s achievements say, base it on your own “personal” achievement

[vivid nest]

beating un in both eternal and 2016 is truly a achievement

[azure oriole]

It is UN.
the feeling of satisfaction after completing UN is different

[azure oriole]

there is no personal achievement left now
i can talk about custom master levels but thats not fair

The moral of the story: play different games.

Like Metroid. Or Resident Evil

[flint flame]

So real

[azure oriole]

resident evil gonna burn my pc

[vivid nest]

metroids hard for me

should pick it up one day

[flint flame]

Re4 classic is still good

[azure oriole]

it is quite expensive

[flint flame]

It’s on sale

[azure oriole]

oh i was looking at the remastered one

[frozen gulch]

@azure oriole was it ever explained why the uac elite guard have tokens to upgrade the praetor suit?

[mint isle]

Hiya. Just getting on here to see if this place still is alive. Long time "Doom" player... just trying to get through Enternal. Either I'm getting old or they jacked the speed up on this game...

[azure oriole]

Nah, it's mainly just a gameplay contrivance.

[flint flame]

2016 is much slower than eternal

The difficulty is made up for by the scarcity of pickups

[mint isle]

2016 to me always seemed sluggish, I remember the original Doom and Quake (floppies) It just seems to me they want you to parkor all over the place to make things "interesting" Some of the colleticables, good lord... I did 100% of Black flag, but this is nuts.

[frozen gulch]

Oh for a minute I thought maybe they had tried to integrate stuff from the praetor suit into the elite guards gear

[mint isle]

they indefinately reward (and punish you) for investigating every nook and cranny.

[azure oriole]

100%ing eternal is way easier

[mint isle]

Comared to?

[azure oriole]

in 2016 you need to master everything

[drifting forge]

Literally no

You can cross the game just by shooting everywhere

[azure oriole]

im talking about 100%

[drifting forge]

Unlike eternal

[azure oriole]

upgrading runes and weapon mods is pain

[drifting forge]

Dude runes in 2016 were op

[azure oriole]

ye

[drifting forge]

Literally allow you to get free shield

[azure oriole]

ammo boost is the most broken one

[drifting forge]

Indeed, you'll have to start the game by purchasing a super important mod. Precision aim if not get fked in later levels lmao

And yes its on the pace level to battlefield and cod

[mint isle]

I went with Precision and then Shotgun "grenade" because who doesn't want free grenades.

[drifting forge]

Shotgun grenade good choice as we all hate the cacos

[azure oriole]

is that a countach in your pfp

[drifting forge]

Yes

[drifting forge]

Your artwork good

[azure oriole]

ty

[mint isle]

I remember the first time I saw them in Doom, as well as a Pinky (which in Enternal neither are a general pushover anymore) They were things of nightmares... now my son is watching me play and Internal and I'm waiting for him to tell me he had nightmares... lol

although I do have to say, I really wish Ammo was more available, they want you to use the heavy cannon, but the shotgun...nooo... you got to be patitent... ammo is like finding a golend ticket sometimes.

[vivid nest]

two upgrades for shotgun in 2016 and u have more ammo then a fully upgraded shotgun in eternal

[robust elk]

Ammo in which game?

[ivory sluice]

Dude doom eternals music is actually so good

[mint isle]

Eternal

[robust elk]

Well demons are walking ammo boxes so

[mint isle]

I save the chainsaw for the hell knights and other big guys when I get overwelmed.

[robust elk]

Just use the chainsaw and manage with what you have, i tend to switch to the heavy cannon/chaingun when my plasma or shells are low

[vivid nest]

i do that in 2016 lmao

[robust elk]

Then you're gonna run out of ammo easily, deal with the big guys with the big guns and deal with the small guys with the chainsaw

I used to play like that in 2016 actually, but eternal revolves way more around the chainsaw and using fodder to stock on resources

[mint isle]

Agreed, but early in the game its' safe to do that. I am still on the main storyline

[robust elk]

Oh in the early game it is fair

[mint isle]

although the balista... what good is that weapon, it's like a poor man's BFG without any of the cool side effects.

[ivory sluice]

Does it matter what order you play the games in?

[robust elk]

The ballista is awesome imo

[robust elk]

Not really, but if you have never touched the reboot games i reccomend starting with 2016

[ivory sluice]

I'm almost finished with eternal cuz I didn't realize doom 2016 was also on ps+

[mint isle]

Well Doom 2016 laid the foundation for Doom Enternal.

[robust elk]

The ballista with the destroyer blade is a good way to get pressure off yoru back

And the pressision volt is also a good way to deal with weakpoints or cacos

[mint isle]

I just don't see a reason for it, low-level crowd control?

[robust elk]

But i tend to just quick switch between the ssg and ballista for big guys, specially with the ice bomb

[robust elk]

When you get good at quick switching it becomes your best friend with the ssg

[mint isle]

ok.

Good to know

[ivory sluice]

Does it matter that much if you played eternal before 2016

[robust elk]

But on its own is great too, specially if you get your distance with big boys

[vivid nest]

if your story centered around doom, start at 2016

[mint isle]

No, not really, Enternal has an internal story that merges 2016 so even if you didn't play it you understand it.

[azure oriole]

Ehh...

[ivory sluice]

Alright nice

[azure oriole]

I'd argue if you play Eternal first you will have no goddamn clue what is going on.

[robust elk]

Again, if you have never touched the reboot games i reccomend starting with 2016

[dim ermine]

Ok thanks I’ll try that

[vivid nest]

true

[ivory sluice]

I'm still gonna play 2016 but I'm sorta already 84% done with eternal lmfao

[robust elk]

Specially to get an idea about the gameplay and how to manage it

[azure oriole]

The game doesn't explain who the Slayer is, who VEGA is, who Samuel Hayden is, etc...
If you're interested in getting into Doom as a whole I recommend starting with 2016.

[vivid nest]

ur not gonna know the origin of that skull key unless u play 2016

[robust elk]

tahts fairly specific LOL

[ivory sluice]

Ye it says on ps I'm 84% done

[robust elk]

Oh alr my bad

[ivory sluice]

I really like doom eternal it's super fun

[robust elk]

Agreed!

[vivid nest]

doom 2016 is moer on the harder side, but also fun :)

[mint isle]

I played all versions of Doom, and honestly... going from 2016 to Enternal... I thought that they overplayed 2016... like the entire premis behind it... the board is NOW worried about what's going on in Mars?

I know, I know, biggest company, etc... but dude, that ship sailed...

[robust elk]

Tbh i didnt see much difficulty change inbetween games, on hurt me plenty atleast

[ivory sluice]

The music is some of the best I have ever heard from any game

[robust elk]

Super gore nest theme my beloved

[vivid nest]

imps have aimbot.

zombies do more then 50 DAMAGE ON ULTRA NIGHTMARE

[mint isle]

They all have aimbots... lol

[robust elk]

Again i said on hurt me plenty because i went through both games on that difficulty first

[vivid nest]

not that aimbot
i mean aimbot aimbot

[ivory sluice]

Rip and tear is one of my favorites

[robust elk]

I might do an UV save file some time later

[vivid nest]

u should, it increases the difficulty and makes it fun

[robust elk]

Yeah specially now that i know which weapon mods i actually want

[ivory sluice]

I hate archviles

[robust elk]

My ass should had not gotten the plasma stun bomb at the endgame

[vivid nest]

i hate carcasses.

[robust elk]

Tbh i just kinda save bfg ammo just for them LOL

[ivory sluice]

Same

[robust elk]

specially on Urdak

[ivory sluice]

I kinda hate how the crucible only had 3 charges

[robust elk]

Although can we agree

fuck the pain elementals in the icon of sin's second phase

[azure oriole]

its just melee bfg

[ivory sluice]

It should be like onslaught where you have like 20 seconds to use it with inf charge

[vivid nest]

way to op.

[robust elk]

I like the crucible's charges, they feel deserved for a one hit weapon

It makes you think which demon deserves the blade

[ivory sluice]

True

I hate the snake things so much

I save all my chainsaw fuel specifically for them

[robust elk]

Whiplashes are really annoying early game but just become a bit less annoying by the end

Specially with the ice bomb and frag granades

I've learned to just kinda lure them all into a spot where i can ice bomb them all and throw a coule of frags

Weird question but
What's the demon y'all have glory killed the least?

I'd say pinkies and maybe archies because i just kinda kill them with their weaknesses

I've only glory killed pinkies when i miss my ice bomb ssg or i damage them through other ways

[vivid nest]

like way way to op
three charges are good since its a one shot mode

[azure oriole]

Doom 2016's story is largely an expy of Doom 3's, so certain ideas are taken from that.

[vivid nest]

sorry my internet died out

[robust elk]

Naw naw dw

[vivid nest]

yeah doom 3 is when the lore starts to get focused on

[azure forum]

Destroyer blade takes care of them easily

[robust elk]

True as well

[vivid nest]

D BLADE MY BELOVED

i mastered it

[mint isle]

Yeah, I can see that, but I really miss the original Doom... I mean Doom Enternal feels like they tried to bring it back to Earth, but jumping around the universe....

[robust elk]

I like to think that Doom3 is the moment where the slayer goes from being "that one marine that killed a lot" to The doomslayer

[azure oriole]

In Doom 2016, the board is mostly uninvolved, as opposed to in Doom 3 where Counsellor Swann has been sent directly by the board. Hayden's mainly focused on running damage control and keeping Argent production alive. The game shows you he's kinda not too concerned about the loss of human life. Being the ultra-capitalist villainous jackass he is.

[robust elk]

Tbh you can just kinda gloss over the lore and it's still a fun game

[vivid nest]

that'd be funny to imagine but then its a alternate universe

[ivory sluice]

Yea but onslaught is a one shot thing and it has the same thing

[robust elk]

Idek what the hell the lore is i just go shooty bang bang and wow everythings dead

[ivory sluice]

Fr

[mint isle]

I do on other games like Destiny, because the game there isn't a game, it's Lore with a 20 minute gameplay event it feels like.

[vivid nest]

idk how many times it appeared, but it appeared atleast 1-3

crucible charges are eveerywhere once you get the crucible
plus a 20 sec onslaught thing is a bit overkill and makes the game less fun

[robust elk]

I agree

Also what's the commonly held opinion on the Unmakyr? Just wanna know because i unlocked it recently

[mint isle]

The lore in Enternal explains about things you weren't part of per say... or were but in passing... it just makes me wonder if instead of writing so much lore how much of the game would have been made...

[vivid nest]

bfg if it hates one person

[ivory sluice]

I wish I could go back and get it but I already started the final mission

[robust elk]

i don't get where you come from tbh

[vivid nest]

finish icon of sin, then theres a mission select option

[azure forum]

It is fun to use especially if you don't use BFG. Besides that. It is pretty bad.

[robust elk]

Like doom eternal doesnt force you to read the lore, you can just kinda skip the cutscenes if youwant to and there's only 1 lore level

[ivory sluice]

Oh alright

[azure oriole]

New Doom aimed to evolve Doom's universe, and emulates some of Doom's original inspirations, like Evil Dead or Alien, or other sci-fi things. It also emulates franchises adjacent to Doom. The Argenta and their architecture remains one of Heretic and Hexen, while the Lovecraftian-focused lore and the Wraiths are very similar to what we see in Quake.

[mint isle]

Look at the Codex, talks about Formation of the ARC, and the Cultists base, etc... but in reality, some of that stuff Doom Guy was there for. Instead of reading about it, I wonder why we couldn't play though it.

[ivory sluice]

Is getting the unmakyr even worth it tho?

[vivid nest]

to look cool yeah

[azure forum]

It is on one file just to complete it

[robust elk]

You can lookat the Codex if you want to

[vivid nest]

the unmakyr is just the bfg as a plasma gun

[azure forum]

Same applies for most weapon mods

[robust elk]

Oh you mean about playing the Codex stuff
then idk what to tell you

[mint isle]

I do beacuse I hate the !'s ....lol

[robust elk]

It's just flavor and it gives a backstory to what you're even doing

[ivory sluice]

Oh

[robust elk]

I kinda wish the Unmakyr had a doom 64 skin tbh

[mint isle]

Yeah, I played Hexen, and Hexen II, I loved those games.

[robust elk]

Or a skin where it looks more meaty like in 64

[vivid nest]

fr

[robust elk]

Dont get me wrong i love the makyr look but i just kinda wish it had that skin option

Like how you can get the classic shotty skin yk

yeah i call it the shotty im inmature

[mint isle]

You mean the original Doom Skin?

[robust elk]

The one you get in the pack with doot revenant

[frozen gulch]

@azure oriole what allows a demon to possess someone in doom? Is it weak will or?

[azure oriole]

Demons don't possess people, typically. "The Possessed" refers more to people having been infected by Hell's energy.

Zombified humans are mutants, essentially. They're driven insane and reduced to stupid corpses that roughly follow orders from demons.

The closest we see to this is the Imperatrix using Olivia's body to gain physical form, but Olivia isn't really a vessel there as much as she is a tool.

[mint isle]

They aren't zombies, they are living challanged 😛

[frozen gulch]

I see so they're undead corrupted by hell essence rather than some poor sod being directly possessed?

[azure oriole]

That's correct. This is an interaction we see with most non-Hell species.

Maykrs do the same. Blood Maykrs from TAG1 are essentially Maykr zombies, they're what normal zombies are to humans.

Maykrs corrupted by Hell energy and turned into mutants.

[robust elk]

Erm it's mortally challenged......

[mint isle]

I thought I've heard living challanged as well? My bad.

[dusky sandal]

could be a translating issue

[azure oriole]

"All mortally challenged personnel please save and exit your workspaces"

[astral salmon]

hello gigachad gamers

[flint flame]

“Gigachad”

[random vault]

im actually giga beta

[random vault]

i redownloaded eternal, this is my comeback time, i will beat all achievements and everything on un before i stop

[cyan frigate]

hey gigachad gamer 👍😎

[astral salmon]

Cool pfp Man

[shy scroll]

i hope they add a coop mode in the next doom game

kinda like cod zombies but its DOOM

[jaunty vapor]

2016 has a snap map that's pretty much exactly that. It was kinda fun, though that definitely fits 2016s speed more than Eternal's.

[random vault]

hello bloodshot

[quasi gust]

I need 1-2 people to help me grind battlemode achievements

[pearl lotus]

Got the unmaykr

[young mango]

Cewl

[pearl lotus]

Is kalibas hard?

The brain octopus thing in neckravol

Nvm I just beat it

Oof

Ah

[minor hornet]

I keep getting a notification that my sentinel training armor is unlocked everytime I log into the game, is there a fix for this bug?

Yes

[pearl lotus]

It happened to me a couple times, but after a day or so it stopped

[radiant belfry]

Bruh how this game have better fps than fortnite

[rose matrix]

haven't played eternal in a hot minute might go check it

quickswapped so hard my game crashed...

[young mango]

Do you have any recordings of your gameplay?

[icy ice]

I thought I was on such a roll in UN and then I died at the last part of Khan Makyr

It had been a while since I fought the boss and didn’t practice it like I did the gladiator

Rookie mistake 🙄

Back to Hell on Earth lol

[rose matrix]

no unfortunately

[azure oriole]

its people like these that make me want to try and beat un

[icy ice]

Good luck. Once you get enough hours in UN isn’t too bad. I’ve beaten literally everything else in the game on UN and everything after Cultist base was a breeze. I just needed a practice run of Khan Makyr

[young mango]

I beat UN in one sitting before, most exhuasting thing I’ve ever done

[azure oriole]

playing nightmare a few times might help wont it

i remember most enemy spawns in each level

still there's a chance to fuck up

cultist base isnt too bad but the whiplash room and the second secret encounter can end the run

[icy ice]

I had to use a saving throw at the second secret encounter. Had I not done that encounter, I would have beaten khan maker.

That encounter isn’t worth it imo. I saved enough points to fully upgrade the SSG and get quick lock on the rockets. Everything else I leave stock until Arc complex at least

[icy ice]

By whiplash room you mean where you first encounter the whiplash in the outdoor area right before the mod bot?

[azure oriole]

yep that one

[icy ice]

You can cheese that encounter by running to the slasher area where you first encounter the mancubus lmao

UN by any means lmao

[azure oriole]

the only weapons necessary for upgrade are ssg rl ballista and maybe chaingun shield so enough weapon points can be acquired without some slayer gates right

[azure oriole]

ohh good idea

the cultist base slayer gate is hard

[icy ice]

You may need to run out to get their attention once you kill the first few enemies but yea cheese it

[azure oriole]

ye

[icy ice]

I dont do any slayer gates past the first one. Not worth the risk

[azure oriole]

true but the extra weapon points
hmm

[icy ice]

I used to think the first one was the hardest until I realized you can chainsaw one of the dread knights

[azure oriole]

ye

[icy ice]

Nah the regular encounters and maybe one or two secret encounters is more than enough

[azure oriole]

i was doing extra life mode and made it past exultia with no deaths
that might change in cb

[azure oriole]

i see

[icy ice]

For PB, you’re always quick-swapping. For sticky bombs, you stop using it after Cultist Base. Heat blast could benefit from one of the upgrades but it’s more essential to just have the heat blast fully charged up in case of an emergency (or a super heavy)

Microwave beam, Micro Missiles, and Full Auto, and Remote Det are never used for me

Which leaves plenty of weapon points for the weapons I want to use.

[azure oriole]

right

ill complete the eztra life mode and then try un

the bosses are a breeze tbh
all of them

[icy ice]

Except gladiator. His second phase is rough if you don’t know how to dodge his attacks

[azure oriole]

Bro how do you quick swap 💀

[rose matrix]

check your keybinds

[flint flame]

Click button

[rose matrix]

if you mean “how do i quickswap effectively” that’s something more advanced but i’ll try

[flint flame]

It’s tempo based, it’s something you have to get a feel for

[azure oriole]

No like just basic quick swap

[rose matrix]

try to use quickswap combos that really go well together, like precisionbolt and rocket launcher or supershotgun and ballista

[azure oriole]

Ok

[flint flame]

Once you get a feel for the tempo, it shouldn’t be that bad

[rose matrix]

again, check your keybinds, it’s the same button as the one you use to pull up the weapon wheel except a tap instead of a hold

[flint flame]

Great starting one is super shotgun into ballista (don’t over rely on it tho)

[azure oriole]

Ok

Also why does the precision bolt take 6 ammo

[rose matrix]

if you were a game dev would you want to give your players hundreds of sniper shots for free

[azure oriole]

Idk

But i feel more comfy with doom 2016s precision cuz its full auto, and it’s more fun to use

Its just my opinion

[icy ice]

2016’s precision felt useless lol

[azure oriole]

My aim is atrocious

So it helps i guess

[severe thistle]

Hell naw 💀

[rose matrix]

actually fucking neutered siege mode

honestly one of the few changes eternal made over 2016 i’m not salty about

[azure oriole]

Ok

[rose matrix]

arbalest and destroyer blade make so much more sense for ballista than zoom in shot and more stronger shot did for gauss cannon

[azure oriole]

What

I have no clue what ur saying ☠️

I never bothered unlocking the mods lmao

[severe thistle]

What is the best gun

[icy ice]

Yes

[rose matrix]

what i’m saying is that the mods for the ballista in eternal are way more interesting and well-implemented than the mods for the gauss cannon in 2016

[azure oriole]

Okay

[icy ice]

especially once you learn what to use them for.

[azure oriole]

What was the most boring boss fight

[icy ice]

Fully mastered DBlade is a beast. Can take out groups of fodder with 16 ammo, put some fresh and damaged heavies in GK with 33 ammo, and do some serious damage paired with an ice bomb and blood punch or grenade at max ammo

[rose matrix]

arbalest is quite similar to sticky bomb but it’s unique too, it’s more powerful and direct than sticky whereas sticky is less powerful and less accurate but very quick and easy to launch - gauss cannon precision bolt is pretty much just zoom in with slightly more damage and is mostly useless
destroyer blade is completely unique and very powerful but also quite risky, it’s the same philosophy as the gauss cannon’s siege mode but it’s way more interesting as it’s not a basic “charge shot for more power” and there is a reason not to be constantly switched to db since arbalest exists

[icy ice]

Khan Makyr and Dark Lord easily

[flint flame]

Precision bolt in 2016 did poor damage tbh, eternal precision bolt actually feels satisfying to use and does decent damage

[rose matrix]

tbf eternal precision bolt is a completely different thing to 2016 precision bolt

[flint flame]

Yeah there’s that

[rose matrix]

eternal pb is a sniper rifle mod, 2016 precision bolt is just zoom in and charge for slightly more damage

[severe thistle]

But what is the least used

[azure oriole]

For me it is icon of sin

[rose matrix]

there’s no clear worst in eternal but some are more situational than others

for me it would probably be plasma rifle since i almost NEVER use it

[flint flame]

Also with the weakpoint system, heavy cannon precision bolt has a huge benefit of being able to quickly pop a mancubus turret off for example

[severe thistle]

I feel like chaingun is better

[flint flame]

Plasma or chain, more so leaning to plasma

[rose matrix]

yeah, chaingun does the same thing better and has better mods too

[azure oriole]

I just blood punch them 💀

[flint flame]

That sure is one way

[azure oriole]

some mods in 2016 that were bad made good in eternal and vice versa

[flint flame]

Shield is actually broken

[rose matrix]

i reserve bp for annoying demons like pinkies or cybermancs

[rose matrix]

i never really understood shield

but i guess if some people turned it into a powerhouse that’s cool

[icy ice]

It is extremely useful early game though. Especially the heat blast.

[rose matrix]

come to think of it blood punch is probably the reason i find pinkies so much less threatening in eternal than 2016

although the greatly reduced health, size and damage output are major factors too

[icy ice]

Broken is an understatement. Dashing into a full health heavy a few times and putting it in GK is wild lmao

[rose matrix]

yeah but once you have ssg + ballista there’s not too much point to using it regularly

then you get chaingun in supergore and it becomes mostly redundant

[icy ice]

Yup hence why I said early game. I don’t use it after Doom Hunter Base.

[azure oriole]

What i ment is what is the easiest super heavy

[icy ice]

It is nice to keep charged up in case of emergencies though

[azure oriole]

Tru

[icy ice]

Tie between Baron and Archvile. The baron just runs after you and has one fireball attack, and the archvile just stands there most of the time lol

[rose matrix]

i’ve only beaten the game twice (one hmp first-time playthrough and one nm 100% playthrough) maybe i should beat it on nightmare a third time

especially since i can’t seem to get through exultia hell on unm

[azure oriole]

I gotta say for me its either a tyrant or baron

Archvile just annoys me

[hollow lynx]

true tho

[azure oriole]

His spawns are annoying

[rose matrix]

baron

[azure oriole]

Imma go now peace

[azure oriole]

Just a beefed up hell knight nothing special about him

[tired pilot]

Tag 2 is too easy coz of the hammer fr

[tired pilot]

Buff totem with legs and health lmao

[rose matrix]

barons were more dangerous in 2016 where they used their fireballs more often and were always faster than you

but now you have meathooks and dash in eternal and they barely ever use their fireballs and they just aren’t a big threat anymore unless they pin you against the wall

[tired pilot]

I played doom 2016 after I played eternal, bro the game was hella hard even killing a hell knight is hard (don't even start me on the pinkys)

[flint flame]

For me it’s doom hunter, double blood punch and a lock on gets the job done

And with the health drops, you’ll basically get a blood punch back

[azure oriole]

aint nobody talking bout how easy marauders are

[young mango]

SLOB ez

[drifting forge]

Shh you cannot say that Blazar will hear us

[azure oriole]

lol

well it depends on what you play more tbh

[tired pilot]

Lack of mobility makes doom 2016 harder

[craggy heath]

hi

[rose matrix]

absolutely, one of the many reasons i find enemies considered easy in eternal (like barons or cacos) to be gigantic threats in 2016

[tired pilot]

Fr

[astral salmon]

guys i named my minecraft sword ''Doom Blade'', good idea?

[vivid nest]

is it red

[astral salmon]

you idiot

[vivid nest]

or is it white like the knife

[astral salmon]

its that arm blade thingy

[vivid nest]

ah ok

[astral salmon]

pog!!

[vivid nest]

grows knife arm thing
thats minecraft

[astral salmon]

lmao

[warped sage]

2016 can be more punishing too. Go out of bounds? You die.

Whilst in Eternal, you teleport to the nearest location at a little cost of your armor/health.

[acoustic lark]

Definitely handled better in eternal

[edgy summit]

Yep

[acoustic lark]

I would just go for a normal fun playthrough, collect what you can.
After you completet the game, you can go back into the levels and collect what you missed while fully buffed out.

Otherwise upgrade the slayer suit with things that help you collect stuff.

[restive sand]

This is lit

[acoustic lark]

yes!

Ancient Gods Part 2

[acoustic lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU0G9xxTEzg

[tacit orchid]

Oh look, an Unmaykr being useful for once

[acoustic lark]

Basically just to stunlock in this case

[robust elk]

Does anyone have a good/dumb/lazy way to quickly get rid of the turrets in ancient gods part 1?

[acoustic lark]

You shoot at them.

[tacit orchid]

2 charges of DB if you're lazy to PB combo

[robust elk]

Gotchu

I'll probably play with all the time in the world when i get my winter break but the time i wanted to quickly get over with UAC antartica they just kinda caused me to get stuck

[velvet olive]

the berserk cheat is probably one of the worst ones

[spiral timber]

yeah

only working on certain leveles kinda sucks

[strange gale]

you'd get softlocked every time a shootable switch shows up

[celest jungle]

is vega 10 graphics and ryzen 7 3700 U good system to play doom eternal?

[acoustic lark]

Enter your hardware into youtube and add the game name to it.

And you will see for yourself

But you wont have much fun with integrated graphics. If it even works, since DOOM Eternal requires a DEDICATED GPU not a integrated

[drifting forge]

I'd agree 6 gb vram for full compatibility. 4 gb vram works wonders too with good cpu and ram

U processors are mobile based. Vega 10 can run most games so I'd say give doom 2016 a try with good ram

[woeful basalt]

YOU WERE NEVER ON OF US YOU WERE NOTHING BUT A USURPER,A FALSE IDOL. MY EYS HAVE BEEN OPENED LET ME HELP YOU TO SEE, SLAYER.

[scenic bobcat]

I would’ve made a joke but I don’t think that’s a good idea since the last dc cosplayer got real mad 😔

[azure forum]

That requires a different level of dedication considering that doom Eternal levels are as useless as they can be

[pulsar mulch]

Man can someone tell me why my computer can run hogwarts legacy but not doom eternal

[drifting forge]

Doom eternal runs on Vulkan

[acoustic lark]

eyes*

[random vault]

eys

[edgy summit]

Ice

[flint flame]

Rp account

[drifting forge]

Guess we should settle this legally

Better call my lawyer ig

[flint flame]

[frank rover]

Is there a console command where I force the "Restart Mission" option, instead of once I Load from Checkpoint I gotta wait for an eternity for the option to appear?

[pearl lotus]

Not that I'm aware of

[jolly kernel]

I saw quite a bit of custom enemies for Eternal, but all of them are variants of existing enemies

are there any completely new custom enemies made at all?

like let's say, an enemy from 2016 that didn't return in Eternal being directly ported

[tawdry kernel]

Hi

[red fox]

Hey guys, anyone down to help me farm an achievement on battlemode?

[random vault]

no

[jaunty vapor]

Not really. Swapping models was one of the last things modders more or less figured out how to do and while weapon mods started happening, and a few basic model inserts for enemies, don't think it got far enough to be versatile enough to add in an entirely new enemy.

[jolly kernel]

lol

could porting the 2016 enemies that didn't return in Eternal even be possible?

Hell Razer, Hell Guard, Summoner, Spiderdemon

[jaunty vapor]

🤷 my knowledge of modding is like 1%. Either the modding channel or the modding discord would be better places to ask.

But just directly porting the files from one game to the other is most likely impossible even with heavily editing the og files to attempt to get them to work on Eternal

[azure oriole]

Hey guys what do you thinks is the best DOOM game

[rose matrix]

2016

[edgy summit]

Eternal

[rose matrix]

but i haven’t played 3 so there’s that i guess

[rose matrix]

honestly the responses would probably be a little less biased if he didn’t ask in the doom eternal channel

[edgy summit]

Just my opinion

[jaunty vapor]

Tbh most people who are active in this channel generally think 2016 is better as a whole.

I enjoy Eternal more for sure, put way more time into it than 2016. But 2016 is definitely the better game. Writing, atmosphere, level design, and the gameplay while not "as good" is still excellent.

[edgy summit]

I just like killing demons

[tawdry cloak]

I think eternal has better movement and weopons but 2016 has a better atmosphere and more content

I loved community maps

[celest jungle]

I already did play and it was pretty good

[merry haven]

No it isn't

[midnight sparrow]

A modded version of the base campaign with custom enemies and other cool stuff

[rose matrix]

eternal also kind of feels jank with how fast everything moves

[midnight sparrow]

I would say fluid rather then jank. What is jank is touching a slope and being launched 10 million feet in the air

[jolly kernel]

most people that I saw reviewing DE said it's better than 2016, but most people I talk to on discord say 2016 is the better one

[rose matrix]

yeah pretty much

[rose matrix]

probably just difference in opinions

i think they’re about equal to each other quality wise

[jolly kernel]

I find Eternal to be even better than 2016 in literally every way

[rose matrix]

most notably combat feels more meaningful in 2016 since you can’t hook away when things get scary, plus 2016 severely reduces how much pickups are worth on nightmare and there’s no flame belch so you REALLY have to pay attention to your resources

[jolly kernel]

bigger enemy, weapon and location variety, more colorful graphics, the more chaotic gameplay

[jaunty vapor]

Air Control moment

[jolly kernel]

seriously, compared to Eternal, 2016 feels like a cakewalk

[rose matrix]

i found 2016 nightmare to be quite a bit harder than eternal nightmare

[jolly kernel]

well I play both (and other Doom games) on ultra-violence

[rose matrix]

there are less demons in 2016, but all of them are threatening in 2016 due to reduced mobility and abilities, not to mention 2016’s nightmare makes pickups worth next to nothing and reduces what you get from kills substantially

[jolly kernel]

wow

so how big is the jump in difficulty between ultra-violence and nightmare in 2016?

[rose matrix]

idk i’ve only played 2016 on nightmare

kind of reminds me of btd6 where almost no player says “medium is my comfort zone” and everyone only plays medium / medium variants to get medals for gold and black borders

[jolly kernel]

a big part of why I find 2016 to be easier than Eternal is due to how op the upgrades and runes are

[rose matrix]

yeah double trouble is pretty busted

[tawdry kernel]

[jolly kernel]

seriously, a rune that makes your weapons have unlimited ammo if your armor is above 100 (75 when upgraded), it's like an unlimited ammo cheat made as a collectible

[rose matrix]

one of the examples of 2016 and eternal being different is cacodemons, in eternal they’re just goofy little meatballs you can take out pretty easily even in the early game but in 2016 they’re floating balls of death that you have to siege blast on sight

it’s not necessarily harder and the cacos are way easier to deal with in eternal

they have less health, do less damage and you can throw a sticky bomb in their mouth to instant-stagger them

[azure forum]

Cacos do a ton of damage

[tawdry cloak]

it forces the player to use the chainsaw more

[rose matrix]

honestly down to preference

[tawdry cloak]

Lower ammo

[rose matrix]

eternal is harder at its core but if you’re going solely by nightmare difficulty then 2016 is harder imo

[rose matrix]

fortunately chainsaw recharges itself up to 1 pip of fuel so you can always get back ammo

[jolly kernel]

Eternal has a much more complex combat system. enemies have weak points that can be only destroyed with specific weapon mods, you have to constantly chainsaw enemies to get ammo, use the flame belch to get armor, ice bomb to freeze enemies and get some room to move, quickswap is a big part of the gameplay, lower ammo counts encourages you to constantly switch weapons etc

[rose matrix]

in short, eternal gives you a lot more while making you put up with a lot more, if you can handle the added complexity you may find it easier than 2016

not to mention 2016 nightmare really fucking means nightmare whereas eternal nightmare is more like a stereotypical videogame hard mode

[tawdry cloak]

Also some upgrades changed

[gray linden]

bro i was stuck on a part just now on ancient gods and just got spoiled for THE WHOLE FRICKEN GAME

[jolly kernel]

Eternal's combat system is just so fun and an unique experience that wasn't in like any fps before

[rose matrix]

if you are mad over spoilers for a doom game you might be playing the wrong thing

[gray linden]

yea fair enough

i just wanted to play the complete game blind

[tawdry cloak]

I just beaten super fore nest mastery level on nightmare. 4 hours of my life wasted

Final battle was literally hell

[edgy summit]

Reminds me of dauntless sorta, except good

Or the weakpoint system does rather

[young mango]

Yes actually can I dm it to you

[mellow otter]

Slowly progressing through TAG2 on Ultra Nightmare

[ivory sluice]

What's your least favorite enemy in eternal?

[rose matrix]

carcasses

[verbal oak]

Same

[rose matrix]

game would unironically be better without them

spectre whiplashes too but to a lesser extent since they hardly ever appear

[ivory sluice]

Same

[mellow otter]

Running into some trouble with the Archvile on Tag2

[azure oriole]

Ice bomb it bud

[mellow otter]

Its at the end of the second level on reclaimed earth

I have been

But theres still the horde of buffed demons

[echo lagoon]

if you click ice bomb then switch to grenade really quick and launch both at the same time they will collide and instakill the archville

it’s a new glitch

[young mango]

Do you have a video of this

[echo lagoon]

no i don’t have anything to record with

[azure forum]

Make sure you have a hammer ready for it as well

[young mango]

Well Ive been studying glitches for a bit and I’ve never heard of that one

[strange gale]

what's far more likely is the enemy killed itself because it couldn't pathfind to you for some reason or other, and you happened to do that at the same time

[echo lagoon]

ohhh that’s probably why

[novel token]

that's not true

[azure oriole]

reclaimed earth archvile is a bit annoying

[velvet olive]

i hate the sentinel batteries in exulita that have cutscenes

[young mango]

I love spreading misinformation

[azure oriole]

If you swap weapons immediately before picking up a battery, the cutscene will be skipped

[ember void]

lie

they make encounters fun

welll encounters arent rlly fun anymore ahem let me rephrase

they spice things uppp...

[waxen hatch]

They make it so that you can’t just rip and tear mindlessly, they make you take a different approach when they’re alive

[azure oriole]

who

[errant silo]

No. I only arrived just now.

[hexed plaza]

hi

im a console player

and i must ask

how do i become a better player i wanna beat ultra nightmare

https://tenor.com/view/brian-rizz-family-guy-gif-27208427

yea but is there any certain settings i must do like buttonbinds

[azure oriole]

console players dont really have much room to play with keybinds
weapon wheel is the way

[hexed plaza]

for some reason idk what way i can move and quick switch and my hands not feel like a baron broked my fingers

hm i see

[azure oriole]

if you have a custom controller with extra buttons then go for it

[hexed plaza]

xbox

i sadly dont

maybe ill go live to do some ultra nightmare attempts

[azure oriole]

dong eternal

[hexed plaza]

caco-cola

best parody ever

is cursing allowed

[azure oriole]

i wanna play some coop slaughter maps with someone
pc

[hexed plaza]

also another question

[azure oriole]

to a limit ig

[hexed plaza]

i wanna transfer my ps4 doom data on my xbox

is there anyway i can do that

[azure oriole]

that wont be possible ig

your bethesda account stays the same
(skins and stuff) but you cant transfer save files

[hexed plaza]

ok ty

ima draw cursed image

[velvet olive]

My dad said that if I die in sentinel prime I have to go take out the trash. Well guess whos not taking it out?

Just boss fight is little hard

Hurt me plenty

Funny part is that was trying to abuse a trick

By getting more extra lives

I'm not gonna say how tho

The boss fight was a little tough

Ssg and ballista always saves the day

[azure oriole]

reloading old missions

[velvet olive]

Yup

[azure oriole]

even an idiot can figure it out
get it

[slow sigil]

The time you spend getting extra lives isn't worth it

[azure oriole]

ye

[velvet olive]

Still safe and better

[slow sigil]

Not really better, that's the point

[velvet olive]

Ballista

[azure oriole]

siege mode

[velvet olive]

That's my opinion and you can't change it

He cool

Any body with common sense knows why

[slow sigil]

Is it supported by anything?

[edgy summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1001381548458786900/1129027372776181850/IMG_9822.png

[velvet olive]

My brain

[slow sigil]

Nothing then, ok

Not really handy to blindly support any opinion without basis, goes for anything

[velvet olive]

That's rude

[slow sigil]

Why?

[velvet olive]

I have my opinion

[slow sigil]

Oh, wait now i read andnget that meaning mb

[azure oriole]

true

[slow sigil]

Meant more that you support it by nothing with that statement, not brainless

[velvet olive]

I support with "it's much more safer"

[slow sigil]

I still count loosing a life as dying, so.... not really?

[velvet olive]

I dont count it as loosing a life

[slow sigil]

Alr, so what do you loose then

[velvet olive]

What

[slow sigil]

If you get brought to 0 hp, what do you loose