doom-eternal

[azure oriole]

well I spent all of my batteries on armor skins

the armor may not have different stats, but it gives you 50% gamer boost

what's that

or a 50% skill boost i should say

oh you saying it makes me feel like I'm better at the game?

ye ig idk i had to make that lame joke lmao

cuz it kinda does

[azure oriole]

so it does work

but yea this

yeah I know that

I got the knight looking armor

[jolly kernel]

I'd say armor is one of the first things you should upgrade first. the base amount is just 50 and it's way too low

[azure oriole]

it's badass

oh the sentinel armor

yeah

[jolly kernel]

so you died repeatedly then

[azure oriole]

no

[azure oriole]

no the cosmetic one

I got the skin with the batteries

[jolly kernel]

ah yes

[azure oriole]

sentinel training armor i think its name

[jolly kernel]

though he was referring to the one you get when dying repeatedly

[azure oriole]

you get armor if you die repeatedly?

[jolly kernel]

yes

[azure oriole]

only in boss fights i think

I've only died like ten times and it was scattered

its a 50% damage resistance iirc

that'll be useful if I suddenly decide I'm not good at games

[sacred dirge]

Fucking A

[azure oriole]

what

[rich flare]

the marauder is easy to kill anyway

[azure oriole]

For me at the moment, I need to git gud lmao

marauder killing guide is pinned

[rich flare]

i just broke a marauders leg then cut of its own head with an axe

gg ez

[azure oriole]

slayer be like l bozo git gud

[jolly kernel]

you can stun cycle him to death

he was initially hated but is now just as much of a joke as every other enemy in the game

man we have come far since then

[jolly kernel]

the glory kills that have you using an enemy's weapon/body part to kill them are really fun to see

like sticking the Mecha Zombie's arm cannon to his mouth, causing his head to blow up

[azure oriole]

guys. Does the slayer gate reopen after selecting another mission without cheats or it just stays closed permanently after using cheats.

I think it said it'll reopen when you turn them off

[sturdy gyro]

Where is SnapMap?

[jolly kernel]

gone

reduced to atoms

[sturdy gyro]

But why tho?

[azure oriole]

im sorry

[azure oriole]

wasnt there in the first place in this game

[sturdy gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/aqua-konosuba-sad-anime-gif-16189849

[jolly kernel]

perhaps it's too much work or something idk

[sturdy gyro]

But all the possibilities…

[azure oriole]

they had like 14 years for doom 2016 but like what only 4 for eternal

couldve added it in in the updates but eh

[sturdy gyro]

14 years????

[azure oriole]

the gap between doom 3 and 2016 yes

[sturdy gyro]

Ohhhhhh

[azure oriole]

no more like 12 years but still more than a decade

[jolly kernel]

2016 started development in 2008 I think

[azure oriole]

the half life doom 4 concept or the new one

[jolly kernel]

back then it was a completely different beast

[azure oriole]

i would not have touched it if it went that direction

[jolly kernel]

the former

[azure oriole]

ah

[jolly kernel]

it looked more like COD with demons

[azure oriole]

ye

[jolly kernel]

thank god they completely changed it, otherwise it likely would have been the death of the franchise

[lost quest]

are there any unreleased skins/ master levels that ID can release ?! may be during quakecon/doomcon .. this will get folks come back would be awesome

[young mango]

Hey y’all

[azure oriole]

sup

[azure oriole]

i wish but i dont think so

[young mango]

Unreleased master levels exist yes, they’re on nexusmods, and they’re actually the basis for the majority of Kaiser campaign

[lost quest]

i'm talking for us console folks 😛

[young mango]

Then no sadly

[lost quest]

yeah its good for pc folks and that really pushed Horde mode for console folks

[young mango]

There was a hell on earth master level really close to completion they had the rewards for it and everything complete but they ditched it and turned them into battlemode rewards

[lost quest]

they prblyy need to work on a good medium between pc & console and release for everyone .. would be awesome

[robust swallow]

The Russians are back guys

The hooks are dangling down to grab you by the britches and hold you way up high

And higher, and higher, and higher, and higher

[lost quest]

wtf ^^

[azure oriole]

Alrighty

[robust swallow]

There's eye patch movement because the blind man saw me and ran away

[azure oriole]

can someone tell me why whenever i try to quick switch it goes very slow and sometimes doesnt work

(60 fps btw)

[sacred dirge]

Check your wheel opening speed

In the menu

[azure oriole]

thank you so much

it is better now

[rich flare]

E

[sacred dirge]

No worries

[karmic thicket]

Wait you can change the wheel opening speed?

[light pasture]

Does mnk work on xbx for doom

There's no way this kid iss hitting these shots on me

[azure oriole]

It doesn't

[azure oriole]

maybe you are just bad

[hazy harness]

Hehe

Just Beat doom eternal for the first time

[acoustic lark]

Congratz!

[light pasture]

no u

[azure oriole]

I'm on my way there

[hazy harness]

I still need to get ancient gods, one and two

[azure oriole]

same!~

i beat the icon of sin today

[azure oriole]

same

[azure oriole]

where is it again?

[jagged geyser]

"My soul remains guarded" does not make any sense from a physical point of view. Since killing well.. demons what does this have to do with the spiritual aspect of it? Should the decapitation of the priest have any spiritual implications? As far as I understood it did not get any. Although I did not try too much to follow game's story.

I would prefer to see the priest remain defiant in the face of death with a warning "I assure you we will meet again" or smth a bit more mystical but well this is the writing

[azure oriole]

What

[sacred dirge]

Under controls in the very bottom. Settings

[acoustic lark]

Although I did not try too much to follow game's story.
Alright then, try to follow the story before you complain?

[limber canopy]

Oh wow

I just encountered a really strange bug

Also also i made it past cultist base

[limber canopy]

Nevermind i died :/

[jagged geyser]

it was more an observation rather than "complaining". since I dont expect too much from the story thats why I did not follow. when first two sentences in a book are meh you will usually find more of the same.

[azure oriole]

i played doom for 9 hours today.

now im in pain

[limber canopy]

Worth it

[azure oriole]

On god.

[hazy harness]

Baron rail gun you’re riding is 👌

[azure oriole]

I've played it for however long it takes to get 30% completion

[hazy harness]

I meant writing

[azure oriole]

7 hours

I intend to play for more

[azure oriole]

idk how yall can play doom for that long

i lose my shit after playing for an hour

maybe because it's one of the best games

it's never enough

[young mango]

“When the first two sentences of a book are meh you will usually find more of the same” this isn’t a thesis paper, books are never meant to grab you in the first two sentences, they’re meant for people with attention spans

It also just sounds very pretentious like you have some personal animosity towards the doom lore, like don’t ask questions about it if you don’t want your answer

[azure oriole]

step 1 wake up at 5 am step 2 play doom step 3 play doom step 4 play doom step 5 play doom step 6 Sh*t step 7 play doom step 8 play doom step 9 die

me>

[limber canopy]

I died on doom hunter base

I am very sad

[long zephyr]

I wish I could play doom for 9 hours

[long zephyr]

I’m about to make this my daily routine

[azure oriole]

Aight bet.

[narrow oyster]

Can you beat the icon of sin with the berserk power up?

[young mango]

No

[sacred dirge]

[wide marsh]

how much damage does a cueball shot by an arbalest deal

[young mango]

Don’t

I’m not saying I know the answer off of my head but what I do know off the top of my head is that’s a horrible idea

Just stick with hitscan spam, ballista and pb

Also if you’re bad with aiming, chaingun, it’s also hitscan, just in a more discreet way

[azure oriole]

i dont think cueball dmg varies from what its shot with

[jaunty vapor]

Cueball explosion values are in the damage doc as is most everything else.

#doom-eternal message

Tldr, cueball explosion does 5000 damage except against Maykr Drones which it does 2500 against. There's some miscellaneous stuff like "headshots" with the cueball explosion though don't even ask me how THAT works.

In regards to Arbalest, the splash damage from Arb is 1200, varying based on certain enemies (it's 2100 against Cacos, 1900 against Pain Eles, but only 700-1000 against Hell Knights, Arachs, Dread Knights, mancubi, Cyber Mancubi... it's actually weird how many different damage values for splash there are for Arb)

So if you average that to like... 1000 damage? 🤷

Arb splash + Cueball would be 6000ish damage.

Assuming, of course, the Arb explosion happens near/at the enemy the cueball hits... i think the timing on when the cueball flies after taking the impact damage would probably result in the Arb explosion missing, but theoretically, 6000ish.

[azure oriole]

oh right i forgot arbalest shots sticks to stuff

[young mango]

Sorry I thought he was talking about the eyeballs in tag

[azure oriole]

These “glory kill demon in specific way” challenges are super annoying

[sacred dirge]

Which ones giving you issues ? Pinky ?

[azure oriole]

Mainly the archvile and tyrant ones but I got those done

Took a few reloads of checkpoints though

[azure oriole]

Favorite bosses?

[young mango]

beat unreclaimed earth i am no longer soulless

[burnt moss]

I use cheats for those challenges

[tidal oasis]

Hello

[jolly kernel]

Gladiator

he’s fun to fight and his design is cool

literally the og Baron/Hell Knight

[queen axle]

People, can anyone use battlemode on Nintendo switch?

[lyric lodge]

you can, but you'd need to buy the nintendo online

[queen axle]

Ok, thanks

[hidden bone]

goodmorning from greece

any idea why the series in battlemode hasnt reset??

[pearl crater]

hey, does the ps plus extra ersion of doom eternal include all the dlc's?

[late inlet]

Nah. Just the main game.

[pearl crater]

will you be able to add dlc's?

[late inlet]

Yeah.

[pearl crater]

like ancient gods part 1 and 2

[late inlet]

And it's deluxe edition.

[late inlet]

You gotta buy it, but yeah.

[pearl crater]

damn

[pearl crater]

is there anything else to do after campaign (im almost done) except dlc's

[late inlet]

battlemode 2.0 is available.

[pearl crater]

alr ty

[late inlet]

Np

[primal estuary]

🇬🇷 🤝 🇦🇷

[rich flare]

I would enjoy my game exploding with 80000 tyrants

[sturdy abyss]

Greetings from France everyone!

I need some help:

I have Doom Eternal thanks to the PS Extra and i've just finished the game and i want to play again but, when i want to launch the campaign, it's says : "Buy the Full Game"
But i have already the game and the licence to play because the game is included in the PS Extra and my subscription is valid actually.

Can anyone help me?

[fast garden]

Finnally defeated Khan mayker feeling good

[sturdy abyss]

Pretty simple and yet, this one was a challenge.

[fast garden]

Which?

[sturdy abyss]

The Khan Maykr.

This was a hard but fun boss, in the game. You think it's simple but it's incredibly hard when the time goes by.

[slow sigil]

Not if you use lockon

You can tap her before any damagebis really done

[fast garden]

Yea

It's pretty easy just use rocket launcher and "crossbow looking thing with explosive mod" the i forgot the name

I don't recommend using BFG

It's a waste but you'll get your ammo back so i guess it's alright

[sturdy abyss]

I use that. But, it's hard to play a game when your PS4 is 8 years old and she overheat too much due to the climate in me room and where i live. So, sometimes i have some framdrop and some sort of short freezing.

[fast garden]

Bro

How are you alive

[sturdy abyss]

Talkin' about waste. Is juste me or the Unmaykr is pretty useless compared to the BFG?

[fast garden]

It's good with secret encounters

BFG is not used in most of time time

I only seen PPL use BFG for 1 or 2 big secret encounters

[sturdy abyss]

One big fan and a big air conditioner can drop the temperature in my room (in the summer) from 95°F (35°C) to 77°F (25°C). The maximum i reach in my room was 104°F (40°C).

[sturdy abyss]

For the first secret encounters, it's hard. But, when your unlock the Rocket Launcher and the crossbow. Man, it's so easy then.

doesn't work when a marauder spawn, this freakin' dude needs the supershotgun with the meat hook and one or two shot with the crossbow.

[fast garden]

Beo

[fast garden]

Use unmaykr

Wait

Lol use rocket both the grenades combat shotgun's 5 sticky bomb and meathook super shotgun + crossbow with explosive mod

[sturdy abyss]

With his f'n shield? No way josé!😂😂

[fast garden]

That's why i gave other no miss no wait combo

Use explosive

[sturdy abyss]

I mainly use the flame belch, the grenades, the supershotgun+meat hook and crossbow explosive. His f'n dog made me crazy every time but hey, it's doom, not fornite! 😂😂

[fast garden]

Fr

Though it would be better for me to play on controller i suck on keyboard

[slow sigil]

It's pretty much useless

Either BFG is better or using non supers is better

[jolly kernel]

I don’t use the rapid-fire weapons in DE in general

plasma gun, chaingun and unmaykr

[fast garden]

Chain gun depends as well as unmaykr for me

[jolly kernel]

I mostly use the heavy cannon’s precision bolt more than the normal firing mode

[fast garden]

Almost everyone does if they know

[jolly kernel]

yeah

I also use the plasma gun to destroy the Shield Soldier’s shield and kill him

[slow sigil]

Chain gun is useless if you know swaps

[fast garden]

Brooo you use meathook on those guys

[fast garden]

Nah i suck on pc

[jolly kernel]

perhaps practise

[fast garden]

But i think i know a lil about swaps

[slow sigil]

If you really want to simplify it use rem det

[jolly kernel]

nobody is good at quickswaps from the get go

[slow sigil]

Then you can hold your mod button, and just press q to swap pb rocket whilst tapping shoot for pb

[fast garden]

First meat hook then shoot then crossbow then rocket again meat hook

[jolly kernel]

try to put the precision bolt into the mix

[fast garden]

Ye

[jolly kernel]

it will be worth it

[sturdy abyss]

So, am i the only one who loves the chaingun? And use it when it's critical?

[sturdy abyss]

I use the micro missile like an artillery barrage!😂😂

[jolly kernel]

that one isn’t really useful tbh

however, precision bolt is a beast of a weapon mod

I like how id made many of the new enemies in the dlcs work in a way just to make the more useless weapons and weapon mods more useful

[slow sigil]

Thing is, it's not critical

Chaingun exists only for the damage output
And it's ttk is worse then swaps

So it's only point, damage, it isnt good at

[fast garden]

Though i suck at aim

[jolly kernel]

like how Spirits can be only destroyed with the plasma gun’s microwave beam and Stone Imps can be only killed with the full auto shotgun mod

it was a good choice imo

[fast garden]

Guys what is after you defeat the icon of sin?

[slow sigil]

Not really

[jolly kernel]

chronologically, TAG 1 happens

[slow sigil]

They shouldve just made fa actually interesting and fun instead of trying to force people to use it

[fast garden]

Fa?

[slow sigil]

Plasma atleast was barely used for it's mods so eh bad design but you feel it less

[slow sigil]

Full auto

[fast garden]

Oo ok

And idk why at the mars base doom Slayer grabs the guard's plasma gun like didn't he have it all the time??

[slow sigil]

Cause the levels where first probably structured differently

[wild latch]

The obtainment of plasma rifle was supposed to be in Phobos but because of the plasma shield soldiers, they have to put it in Exultia (which I have no clue why Id Software putted it there instead of Cultist base)

[fast garden]

Oof

[azure oriole]

Yeah that intro seemed specifically designed for a game presentation and then they just forgot to change it after the fact

Funny af that the slayer just steals this dudes weapon for no reason tho

[inner jasper]

so today i beat my first master level on nightmare

[crude dagger]

Hello I’m new in Doom and I have a problem with eternal in ps4. When I complete the first level, the game says than i have to download a content, but I have already the campaign content, please help.

What?

What the problem whit the collectibles

No no no my problem is than I can’t continue whith the campaign

O wait I can see the problem

In my ps4 are downloading the doom eternal completa

Sorry

[wide marsh]

softlocked in immora in that tiny arena before the shotgun/stone imp rampage section

[azure oriole]

load checkpoint

sadly id left a game full of softlocks i hate it

[vagrant estuary]

weapons in eternal sound like their fucking suppressed

[azure oriole]

lol

[rain plank]

lmao

[spice summit]

that is because the game can get pretty crazy at times and if you have loud gunshots its harder to focus

[rain plank]

That’s fair, but I feel like the intensity of everything in DOOM 2016 stole my attention, and it’s the one thing i could focus on without my ADHD getting in the way. That’s just me tho

[spice summit]

i agree, especially the sound of the heavy assault rifle is so good when playing

[sacred dirge]

Use the classic sounds problem solved

[spice summit]

are the classic sounds in the normal game or do you have to have a different version like the delux version?

[sacred dirge]

I don't even remember but I think it was just deluxe unless you can get them separately now

[rain plank]

I don’t think you can, but if I ever upgrade consoles I’ll get deluxe for it

[vagrant estuary]

who is bob?

this titan in the emoji

[rain plank]

Bob

[azure oriole]

he is canonically named bob ||jk||

[sacred dirge]

Bob was a mod here who retired. You'll also notice the goat emojis. That was his profile pic

[rain plank]

I may be new to the server, but Bob is already forever engraved in my brain as a legend

bob

[lyric lodge]

[azure oriole]

nice little tribute

[azure oriole]

just killed my first marauder, gg ez

[fast garden]

Just beat the icon of sin feeling good

[rain plank]

Nice job, both of you

[fast garden]

Time to play the original doom

Bruh it crashed 😮‍💨

Well it was using a lot of my vram

Well i guess time to beat tilhe darklord

[rain plank]

Have fun

[fast garden]

Though i can't rn

Wifi down

[rain plank]

Damn that sucks

[fast garden]

Dam i can't play Doom in doom eternal

It crashed again

[azure oriole]

that sucks

no man should have to ho without the ability to play doom

[wild latch]

u need to install all assets from eternal including the extra data

lets say the one u installed was like 10% of the game if u downloaded all the assets, It will be the full game, well except the dlc If u didnt purchase it

so u need to download all of them If u want to continue the campaign

[warped sage]

Just killed my first Zombie at the Heck on the World level, feeling like a pro already

[wild latch]

how did u torture it

[azure oriole]

just heard king novik's speach, feeling like the best gamer ever

[wild latch]

just went to heaven, felt like a pro

[warped sage]

I used a shotgun. It was kinda hard at first but eventually I was finally able to get over it. Now I’m better than a game journo.

[wild latch]

u achieved a skill that a game journalist couldnt achieve

[vagrant estuary]

bro precision bolt is so hard

[azure oriole]

what

[wild latch]

no It isnt

[vagrant estuary]

im on ps4 so its hard for me

[lapis saddle]

What are you doing with it?

[vagrant estuary]

trying to aim for revenant weakpoints but end up missing

[warped sage]

just aim

[wild latch]

I played eternal on the same console as u are, Its not that difficult actually

[lapis saddle]

Revenant weakpoints are a bit tricky

[azure oriole]

I mean if you're new then fine you'll get it eventually

[vagrant estuary]

but revenant weakpoints are so small

[wild latch]

Its fine If u missed couple of shots

Can u do fast scope tho?

[vagrant estuary]

no

i have to use chrono strike

[azure oriole]

quick scoping is easier than aiming

Target snapping:

[wild latch]

I see, u need to fast scope If u want to make the situation easier

[lapis saddle]

Yup. Scope and take the shot before you even see the scope view. If you’re close, aim assist will make it snap on target

[azure oriole]

console has aim assist?

[lapis saddle]

Yes

[wild latch]

yep

[azure oriole]

oh wow

[fast garden]

That's op i think

[lapis saddle]

Of course it has aim assist. Why would a modern console FPS not have that?

[azure oriole]

but at the same time it's hard to quick switch so ig its balanced

[vagrant estuary]

oh my gosh doomguy looks so ugly without his helmet

[azure oriole]

lmaoo

[vagrant estuary]

@azure oriole

same with caco

[azure oriole]

so if i connect a controller to my pc will it have aim assist?

[vagrant estuary]

doom demons are so ugly

[lapis saddle]

Aiming on controller is still harder than m+kb so aim assist is kinda necessary to offset that and make the game playable

I assume pc controller does aim assist but I don’t know

[slow sigil]

they use the same controller setup

[vagrant estuary]

no bro

[azure oriole]

oh might try playing with a controller then

[vagrant estuary]

zero master inspires me

[wild latch]

Mars core ml is not the easiest ml, change my mind

[azure oriole]

I'm on ps5 it's easy

[azure oriole]

the very small rooms with heavies are hard

[vagrant estuary]

yeah the cyber mancubus is too hard

[fast garden]

He's hot

[wild latch]

true

[vagrant estuary]

no

[wild latch]

U need to see that one place that used 2 marauders, 2 barons of hell, 3 Pain elementals

[azure oriole]

[neat tusk]

[azure oriole]

3rd hell priest down

[fast garden]

Nicee

[azure oriole]

the demonic consumption of earth has reduced to 100%

[fast garden]

Lmao

[vagrant estuary]

wiat did anyvody beat super gore ML on all difficulties? ON PS4? I really like the gold shotgun skin

I need help bro guys pls

[azure oriole]

Completing it on, say nightmare for example, it'll automatically complete the ones below it

[vagrant estuary]

Guys I think I want to date doomguy

[azure oriole]

didn't you just say he's ugly

[glass totem]

Either Cultist Base or ARC Complex are the easiest master levels.

Here’s my ranking of master levels easiest to hardest:
Cultist Base
ARC Complex
Super Gore Nest
Mars Core
Taras Nabad
World Spear

[vocal cipher]

Finally beat the campaign. What should I do next?

[slow sigil]

the dlc

[azure oriole]

play it again but harder

[vagrant estuary]

you are ugly

[azure oriole]

possibly

[hot silo]

Just completed the main campaign, loved the game, gg to the devs

Gonna play the DLCs now

[vagrant estuary]

eternal slayer

[azure oriole]

let me tell ya dlcs are more fun

[azure oriole]

very accurate list

[vagrant estuary]

Guys bro pls

Bro why is video laggy

[azure oriole]

it isn't

[acoustic lark]

Get a better device to watch it on, because the video isnt lagging a bit bro

[vagrant estuary]

@azure oriole oh my fucking davoth he's back

[hot silo]

That’s good to hear, I bought both for $16 total. So seemed like a great deal

Plus the game itself was free from ps store

[azure oriole]

awesome!

[neat tusk]

I couldn't beat it one Ultra-Violence. Not that I gave up, the game crashed on my Switch

[hot silo]

Also question, I couldn’t really master the quick switching weapons for damage. You got any tips for that?

[neat tusk]

Hold fire while tapping quick swap?

[azure oriole]

you need to learn all the precision bolt combos and have to know when to use them

[vagrant estuary]

def not me

[azure oriole]

for example
the super heavies are best dealth with pb rocket combo

[vagrant estuary]

that's only on oc

Pc

[slow sigil]

oc?

[azure oriole]

you can also quickswap ridiculously fast on console

[hot silo]

What’s that combo

[slow sigil]

precision bolt-rocket

[azure oriole]

precisiom bolt and rocket launcher

[hot silo]

I’m on ps5

[vagrant estuary]

how can you freeze a demon anyway? I actually want to practice that combo

[azure oriole]

you can make use of the weapon wheel

but the combos are what gives damage

[neat tusk]

ice grenade....?

[hot silo]

Should I customize it? I’ve always left it on default

[azure oriole]

i dont know much about console but if the weapon wheel is bound to your left joystick maybe it will be easier

l3 press

[hot silo]

I know the button to switch is R1

[azure oriole]

you should maybe ask on reddit for controller binds or someone here who plays on console as well

[hot silo]

I know if I just press R1 without choosing a weapon it switches between auto rifle and rocket

So maybe that’s good?

[azure oriole]

thats the button for your last weapon?

last switched weapon i mean

[hot silo]

There’s a button for that? Lol

[slow sigil]

weaponwheel is the same button as last weapon

[azure oriole]

ohh

[azure oriole]

equip ssg, u got a free button for it

[slow sigil]

if you press instead of hold

[hot silo]

SSG?

[azure oriole]

super shotgun

super shotty

[hot silo]

Ah nice

[azure oriole]

or chaingun shield to insta shield after chainsaw

but thats cringe

[neat tusk]

You can also adjust weapon wheel delay

[limber pine]

Hsbsjabsksbsa

[neat tusk]

Nice. Very informative.

[azure oriole]

i completely agree my man

[limber pine]

I'am a genius

[azure oriole]

truly

[hot silo]

I really love the SSG, @azure oriole any combo for that

[azure oriole]

ssg and ballista or ssg and pb

[hot silo]

Mmmmm

[neat tusk]

or rockets if you need

[azure oriole]

most people really like ssg and ballista

[hot silo]

Also is it me or I dislike the maxed out rocket going to two targets

[azure oriole]

ssg or pb would be the best options

[hot silo]

I prefer just one lock on

[azure oriole]

ye

[hot silo]

Too bad on DLC I can’t undo the upgrade

[neat tusk]

It does take longer to expend the shots, might be swap-canelable

[azure oriole]

its good for slob

[neat tusk]

Can't undo it no matter the game

[azure oriole]

2 burst instead of 1

[hot silo]

Also on ballista, which mod y’all use the most

[azure oriole]

destroyer blade

dblade>>>>>

[neat tusk]

Arbelest

[hot silo]

I’ve always used the other one since it’s faster guess I was wrong

[azure oriole]

arbalest is only good for pain elementals and cacos

arbalest bad

[azure oriole]

use momentum

[neat tusk]

Interesting

[hot silo]

Also infinite micro missiles is so fun

[azure oriole]

its bad

but the dps is meh

[neat tusk]

That's what turned me off of that mod

[azure oriole]

ammo heavy for bad dmg

[azure oriole]

ye

[hot silo]

Also I don’t see me using the normal shotgun, is that just me?

[azure oriole]

there is also an obscure pb sticky bomb combo

u should stickies for fodders or combo

obscure?

[neat tusk]

low dps

[jaunty vapor]

With Primary Charger, Micro Missiles does actually have the highest DPS. But thats for "a single weapon without quick swapping", and also time to kill is more important than dps since enemy health is so low anyways

[azure oriole]

people use it? wow

yeah alot of ppl do

ok cool

[jaunty vapor]

Yeah pb stickies are niche but used often enough.

[azure oriole]

almost same dps as pb rocket when headshot

[neat tusk]

Really? Didn't know it could be that strong. Shame it required a HC kill plus the mastery

[jaunty vapor]

Well if you shoot a dead body with hc, it triggers as well

[hot silo]

For pain elementals I always end up doing two arbalest shot but what would y’all say is best combo

[jaunty vapor]

But that's still kinda just meh all things considered.

[neat tusk]

WHA-HUH?

[azure oriole]

slob + ballista

[azure oriole]

lock on burst and ssg pb until dead

[neat tusk]

that's bizarre AF

[azure oriole]

ssg is risky

[jaunty vapor]

2 lock on burst 🤷

Not that 2 arb is bad. But really anything works against pains

[azure oriole]

could meathook for armor tho

[azure oriole]

it can get annoying with souls in the way

[hot silo]

My most annoying enemies are the freaking mancubus and the summon guy forgot his name

[azure oriole]

u will get obliterated if u dont stagger

[azure oriole]

for archviles just snow bomb them and 2 lob

[hot silo]

Mmm, will try

[jaunty vapor]

Note: Archies only die from that if you have the frostbite perk

[hot silo]

I’m playing dlc so it’s fine

[azure oriole]

@hot silo u should really learn pb combos and slob those are game changers

[hot silo]

I need to learn to combo cause for example for mancubus I end up being so slow he gets up before I can switch weapons

[jaunty vapor]

Slob is useful but not as important as just PB combos for certain.

[azure oriole]

yes but its good to kill most heavies fast

[jaunty vapor]

Yeah but even without slob itself, lob spam on its own is good

[azure oriole]

true

not to mention the punch swap tech

[hot silo]

Also rune perks, any recommendations? I always use the glory kills ones

[jaunty vapor]

Gimme a sec I can find my thing

[azure oriole]

savagery blood fueled and air control

[hot silo]

Which one are those, not in game atm

[azure oriole]

air control, equipment fiend, savagery

[azure oriole]

you can see them in rune selection next time u hop on

[hot silo]

True, thanks

[azure oriole]

or use wiki

[azure oriole]

yea equipment fiend might be better

preference, blood fueled and fiend are both good

[hot silo]

I might have to go back and play more doom games, I really loved this game

Although I hear this is like the fastest paced action one, right?

[azure oriole]

true

[jaunty vapor]

Found it

"For survivability, it's unanimous that Air Control is first. Most are Equipment Fiend 2nd (the SSG Mastery works with the rune which pushes it over the edge of good), and 3rd choice is basically preference. Though I will say faster Savagery doesn't really help (less I frames from GKs). I highly recommend Dazed and Confused"

[azure oriole]

fastest in doom yes

[hot silo]

I see

[jaunty vapor]

For reference, enemies are more or less coded not to surround you/attack you during glory kill animations. So you don't need tow sorry about faster glory kills to "not get surrounded"

[hot silo]

@azure oriole any recommendations on what to get next, 2016? Or maybe an older one

[azure oriole]

def 2016

[hot silo]

I think that’s one also free on ps store, need to check

[jaunty vapor]

In fact if you glory kill an enemy who is already in a large group, you're more likely to get hit with faster glory kills than not, as the enemies don't disperse by the time you're done the animation

That said it's mostly a marginal difference

[azure oriole]

true

[slow sigil]

i just like the fluidity of faster GKs

[jaunty vapor]

How dare

[hot silo]

@azure oriole also I played in hurt me more, and I think it was fine, I died a couple of times in each level. So I think for dlc ima leave it at that

[azure oriole]

ye i personally dont wanna watch same gks over and over again
some are really long

[slow sigil]

it's a speedrunning tactic you wouldnt understand

[jaunty vapor]

KEKW

[azure oriole]

should try ultra violence since most people play at that

[slow sigil]

istg like half the GKs are made with faster gks in mind or atleast moderately faster ones

[hot silo]

I’ll try it

[azure oriole]

yea

[jaunty vapor]

I actually kinda like the Tyrant stab to the head without faster gk tbh

Which is funny cause that's like the longest one lol

[azure oriole]

and the slicing his leg and then his head

[jaunty vapor]

Meanwhile chopping a whiplash I prefer faster and ITS one of the fastest gks XD

[slow sigil]

they just have no gravity with the slicing

[azure oriole]

the hell knight stab is the fastest

[jaunty vapor]

I kind of like how easily the slicing happens.

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-ancient-gods-dlc-gif-18302037

[vagrant estuary]

Oh my gosh pls help

How do you beat that part in the super gore nest ML where it spawns carcases, tyrants, and that one doom hunter in the tiny ass space

[tardy surge]

There's a help channel?

[azure oriole]

Ah fuck I had a game plan for that room when I still played... but I forgot! Doh! Silly me!

[vagrant estuary]

oh my fucking gosg

[tardy surge]

Help

[vagrant estuary]

@azure oriole

[azure oriole]

yo

[azure oriole]

its been idk how long since i played any of the campaign master levels so i really cant remember

[tardy surge]

Theres a help channel or who can help me whit a problem that i have?

[azure oriole]

what you need help with

[tardy surge]

I can't play campaign

[azure oriole]

let me guess, playstation?

[tardy surge]

Yes

[azure oriole]

there are a bunch of people who cant play campaign on their playstation because of the subscription stuff maybe just buy the game?

[tardy surge]

Can it be solved or not?

[azure oriole]

i do not own a playstation
maybe ask on reddit or something

[tardy surge]

no one answered me

[azure oriole]

then you just gotta buy the game man

[mystic gazelle]

I need tips or something idk

The boss in the ancient gods part 1 killed me the 20th time in the final phase

[tardy surge]

Use combos

[azure oriole]

uh yea man its hard

[slow sigil]

The DH spawns only if one is dead, so freeze the first one and unload everything untill he is nearly dead, but not fully
Go for the second one and finish both rather at the same time

[neat tusk]

Stay moving, and Precision Bolt the best you can

[mystic gazelle]

I cant he is literally moving every second to another spot

[azure oriole]

get rid of the possessed

[neat tusk]

Gotta look around quickly

[slow sigil]

Samur doesn't fight himself in the final phase

[young mango]

Use hitscan weapons like precision bolt, ballista, or chaingun, he can’t dodge that

[mystic gazelle]

I'll try again and inform you guys if I did it

[neat tusk]

Best of luck!

[azure oriole]

good luck bro

use lock on when hes shooting his eye things, pb balista when hes moving around

[dreamy wigeon]

Hello

[neat tusk]

Sup?

[dreamy wigeon]

nothing much you

[neat tusk]

Fine

[dreamy wigeon]

good good

[neat tusk]

Anything you want to know?

[mystic gazelle]

I did it!

[azure oriole]

chad slayer

[mystic gazelle]

[neat tusk]

Have a

You've earned it

[frigid cypress]

Thoughts on the seek and destroy rune?

aka homing glory kills

[mystic gazelle]

Now it's time for part 2

[jaunty vapor]

If it worked with chainsaw like Blood Fueled does, it'd be alright (though not better than most other options). As is, Seek/Destroy is meh. The range for GKs (and chainsaw) is already pretty forgiving anyways.

[neat tusk]

Quite useful, early play

[azure oriole]

waste of rune slot

[frigid cypress]

I loved how it felt in 2016 so IM used to having it

[neat tusk]

Before I got gud with GKs, it was most helpful for me

[azure oriole]

savagery + seek and destroy + berserk in doom 2016

heaven

[mystic gazelle]

Imagine if doom guy would always be in berserk mode

The game would be a breeze

[azure oriole]

no one would play doom

[neat tusk]

Not a shooter, nor a hack n' slash.... RIP N' TEAR

[azure oriole]

yes

[neat tusk]

It would have to be balanced carefully, but it could be done, not to mention fulfill the meme 🤣

[azure oriole]

lol

[mystic gazelle]

Did you know you can kill zombies by dashing into them a few times?

[azure oriole]

yes

[neat tusk]

I knew you could falter them, didn't know it could stagger/kill them

[strange gale]

dashing does a whole 50 damage 🤯

[neat tusk]

As I'm unaware of the damage numbers and enemy health values, I can only assume it's tiny

[strange gale]

yea that's 1/200 of a tyrant's health

[slow sigil]

How long on <30 fps would that take to kill

[sacred dirge]

100 years

[lyric harness]

Mood

[tranquil viper]

what's the best weapon to kill a revenant with?

[lapis saddle]

Lock on rockets.

[tranquil viper]

cool

[burnt moss]

I still don’t understand the distinction between TTK and DPS. Doesn’t Health/DPS=TTK?

[tranquil viper]

also, that one battle on cultist where the floor breaks and then you battle a bunch of demons how to complete?

[neat tusk]

Damage per second by itself doesn't account for when the target will die. Some basic math can do the trick, and in fact create the time to kill

[sharp pelican]

guys im finally at immora after not playing the game for 6 months, coming back to it and going thru world spear and reclaimed earth today

[neat tusk]

POG

[sharp pelican]

I forgot how fun this game is dude

still shaking the rust off but its so fun

[jaunty vapor]

The simplest way to explain it is Mobile Turret might have high DPS, but a single ssg/sticky/PB will kill a soldier so the DPS of other weapons is irrelevant

[tranquil viper]

has anyone here completed cultist?

[sacred dirge]

A shotgun is a good example with pellets. Each pellet hitting at once that's high dps but doesn't mean time to kill

[jaunty vapor]

There's more math behind that as well (in particular with full auto + ammo efficiency) but generally, in a game with such low health values, 'high dps' doesn't necessarily make a thing good since most enemies die to other things more efficiently. Dblade would be another great example, technically low dps, but you can hit multiple targets

[sharp pelican]

cultist base?

[tranquil viper]

yep

[sharp pelican]

yeah, whats up?

[tranquil viper]

well i can't complete a certan battle

[tranquil viper]

this one

[strange gale]

this is an extreme example, but "bulldozer w/ chrono strike does around 160-200k dps" is not a practical way to tell someone how fast it'll kill a possessed enemy

[sharp pelican]

did you get to the very end? flaming walls and all that?

[burnt moss]

It isn’t really irrelevant if mobile turret kills him quicker

[burnt moss]

Ok but higher DPS does equal better TTK

[jaunty vapor]

Against Tyrants, Archies, and Barons, probably yeah

But against everything else it gets muddier

[burnt moss]

Dblade DPS can be calculated after the fact by total damage dealt/time from initiation to end of cooldown

[jaunty vapor]

Cause Full Auto has a higher DPS than SSG potentially, but SSG can kill Arachnotrons faster because it only takes 2 SSG shots to kill them ( or at least glory kill them).

The longer full auto fires it technically gets higher DPS (assuming point blank range, all pellets hit, etc), but that would only theoretically matter against Barons/Tyrants/Archies. Again, assuming the best of both weapons

[tranquil viper]

heehee no

[sharp pelican]

well what part did you get to before dying?

[burnt moss]

That doesn’t make sense to me. Say 2 SSG shots takes 2 seconds but you can kill arachnotron in 1.5 with Full Auto

[jaunty vapor]

Let's do it this way

[burnt moss]

Why would I take 2 seconds when I could take 1.5?

[tranquil viper]

I got to the part where the floor collapses and it throws you into a battle

[jaunty vapor]

Start a timer the moment you press fire for SSG and full auto.

Stop the timer once SSG shoots the 2nd shot.

How much damage was done with both weapons?

Instead of analyzing DPS (per second) were comparing whether the full auto can compete with the time it takes to kill the arachnotron

[sharp pelican]

then, kill the demons

[jaunty vapor]

I.e. in the amount of time it takes SSG to fire twice, can full auto deal 3200 damage?

[tranquil viper]

i'm asking what a good combo is for that

[jaunty vapor]

Just use the cueballs.

The cueballs will respawn once all cueballs are cleared. So use a cueball for the arachnotron and then the whiplash, wait for the Mancubi, freeze 1 Mancubi while cueballing the unfrozen one, and then cueball the last manc.

[midnight sparrow]

There isn’t really one combo that’s good for a specific encounter.

[tranquil viper]

should i just play the only thing they fear is you while doing it? @jaunty vapor the one outside, that one was easy.

[burnt moss]

Well SSG has the higher DPS then. And also the better TTK.

[young mango]

My god the mental gymnastics

[tranquil viper]

@midnight sparrow i guess not

[sacred dirge]

It's pretty straight forward @burnt moss what are you having issues with ?

[tranquil viper]

but for real though, should i?

[jaunty vapor]

But it's not DPS...

"Damage Per Second" is "the amount of damage a weapon can deal in a second"
"Time to Kill" is "the amount of time it takes for a weapon to kill a thing"

Give me like... a minute to boot up Eternal real quick

Cause I wanna make sure my numbers are accurate.

[sacred dirge]

Ya I'm curious also

[burnt moss]

“In the amount of time it takes for SSG to fire twice, can FA deal 3200 damage” is determined by FA DPS* (time it takes for SSG to fire twice).

So it’s a comparison of DPS

[jaunty vapor]

"DPS" assumes increments of 1 second

[burnt moss]

Is cooldown between shots that disruptive to the calculation?

[jaunty vapor]

Theoretically it would be. Assume a weapon fires in intervals of .50000000001 seconds.

The DPS of the weapon in 1 second would be "the amount of damage 1 shot deals"

Because the 2nd shot happens at 1.0000000002 seconds

(Again this is an extreme example)

[burnt moss]

Ok I’m following you so far. Either the one-shot weapon has enough damage in one shot to compensate for several FA shots in one second, or it doesn’t, and that determines which weapon to use

[jaunty vapor]

More or less yeah 👍

[wise kiln]

I was trying to get every toy to get the other ending but in doom hunter base there was one i didnt get so i cant get the ending anymore

[burnt moss]

Ending doesn’t change based on toys

[wise kiln]

But theres an ending where the zombie is playing with the toys

[burnt moss]

That says to me that higher DPS is better TTK every time.

[jaunty vapor]

An easier example would be, ignoring any quick swaps, what's the DPS of Precision Bolt vs. Micro Missiles (I don't know in actuality, but let's just assume PB does 400 every 1.5 seconds, while Micro Missiles do... I dunno... 6 Micro Missiles * 80 so 480... maybe 12 missiles could hit so 960 in 1 second)

The DPS of Precision Bolt = 400 / 1.5 -> 266.66 damage.
The DPS of Micro Missiles = 960ish.

Which weapon kills a soldier faster?

Precion Bolt kills the solder instantly, the moment you fire, both because it's hitscan and the damage it does is enough to kill the soldier. So the TTK is... 0.0 seconds? I actually don't know how to time "hit scan weapon" but, you get it.

Micro Missiles time to kill on a soldier is... I dunno? But it's more than 0.0 seconds.

Does that at least make sense the difference between TTK vs. DPS?

[burnt moss]

Yeah, and now I’d like to analyze why there’s a difference. I think it really is the cooldown that makes the difference between DPS and TTK, because the 1.5 seconds is due to cooldown.

Basically the more powerful weapons can deal a lot of damage instantly but when you factor in cooldown it averages out to lower DPS

[jaunty vapor]

It can, yes.

[burnt moss]

The reason everyone talks DPS is because it creates a generalized measure to compare two weapons or strats

[jaunty vapor]

I mean I get that, but if the only measure that mattered was DPS, then weapons like Full Auto, Micro Missiles, and Mobile Turret would be better than they actually are in practice

Theoreeeeeetically... there's an argument to be had that every "weapon combo" has an innate DPS that should be assigned, but

That's a very weird thing to try and measure/quantify, compared to just doing Time to Kill. Because the "Time to Kill" is a very easy thing to measure: start timer once first bullet happens, stop timer when thing dead

[burnt moss]

Then we need better DPS calculations that factor in the optional cooldown from the final shot in a high-powered combo

[jaunty vapor]

Or we just use Time to Kill...?

[burnt moss]

The trade-off with your way is the calculation must be redone for each enemy or combo of enemies

[strange gale]

it takes ~1.2s for ssg to fire twice (3200 dmg), whereas it takes 1.456s for fa to fire 10 shots (3200 dmg)

[jaunty vapor]

But that's... not a trade-off. That's just the nature of enemies having different health values that range from very low to very high

[strange gale]

used a 60fps video to measure so these are probably off by a frame or 2 but still

[jaunty vapor]

Thank you @strange gale ❤️

Had to verify my files for some reason so DE was giving me issues.

[azure oriole]

yo yall

[sacred dirge]

fa for the win LOL

[azure oriole]

just started replaying eternal on steam its good

who would have thunk right?

[burnt moss]

It is a trade-off because if you have a good DPS calculation then you don’t have to cater your approach as much based on enemy type

[burnt moss]

Stopping timer when second shot fires, or factoring in cooldown animation?

[strange gale]

started timing on the first frame the muzzle flash was visible, stopped timing on the first frame the 2nd muzzle flash was visible

[burnt moss]

So I want to prove mathematically that PB has higher DPS than MM by redefining DPS. Perhaps a different measurement than DPS so it’s not confusing.

[haughty swan]

why tf is reach the portal mission so damn hard no matter how many mons I kill after getting the bg 1000 it wont end then I get stuck and die

im on normal mode and its still hard

[burnt moss]

Now is it only quickswap tech than makes PB OP, or is it still better without exploiting PB quickswap?

[haughty swan]

im about to delete this game

[burnt moss]

There’s only 2 waves I think. Are you using BFG?

[haughty swan]

yes.. there is no way its 2 waves and all the mobs are red

[tranquil viper]

might be a super totem

[haughty swan]

why tf do i get the hard stuff

im reseting this sht mission

[tranquil viper]

legit just break the super totem and kill the demons, it shouldn't be as hard as your making it

[strange gale]

in terms of damage per minute, mastered pb with no tech reaches 20k DPM, while mm reaches around 83k

pb with optimal punchswapping reaches 50k DPM

now mm does have a delay between a missile landing (5 damage) and it detonating (100 damage), and i counted its DPM as if it were hitscan and dealt 105 damage as a single tick, so this is just a bit biased in favor of mm

[burnt moss]

Oh so it’s a while after getting BFG?

[burnt moss]

Ok so that means it’s only when computing less than a second that PB has higher rate of damage.

[livid parrot]

bros acting innocent after destroying hell

[azure oriole]

pb is still superior with punch swaps, but with no techs mm is best

[strange gale]

nah, mm at least theoretically does more damage in almost every context

ignoring powerups, best case scenario for pb is getting activating the mastery on every shot (technically 1667 dps but not really)

pb punchswap headshots deal 1042 dps, mm bodyshots deal 1383 dps

mm headshots deal 1725 dps

thing is, pb is still a way better fodder clearing tool

so it beats out mm in utility, and the dps comparison becomes irrelevant as soon as basic quickswapping is brought to the table

[frank rivet]

Anyone know what the 400 kb update did

[burnt moss]

Isn’t that because PB has basically infinite DPS with Quickswapping? What I mean is that it fills in the spaces between Bal or SSG shots. For zero time cost you get 400 damage.

Or rocket of course

Been like 5 months or more

[azure oriole]

it doesnt just fills out the spaces it also totally skips the reload animation so ur basically shooting faster than not swapping

[frank ridge]

why is this darn game 80 gb

[burnt moss]

Well that’s what I meant I think

[azure oriole]

main game + 2 dlcs AAA game i think thats normal

[frank ridge]

but just why

do they hate convivence

[burnt moss]

Tons of graphics and entities etc

[frank ridge]

I would rather have shit graphics than use up 80 bg

[azure oriole]

yeah basically pb has the fastest bring up animation thats why its used for every combos but now ppl prefer to just rocket punchswap

[glass totem]

Just beat TAG 2 in a day.

[glossy warren]

gamer

[sacred dirge]

As it should be

[azure oriole]

Just bought TAG 1 & 2

They were on sale for 30 put together so why not

I’m liking the game

[sacred dirge]

Great deal

[warped sage]

Did you buy them one by one or with the Year One Pass?

[azure oriole]

Year pass

Was cheaper

[waxen field]

What’s the best level and why is it the World Spear Master Level?

[azure oriole]

IDK

[waxen field]

Is that level part of a new dlc?

[glass totem]

Is there a step by step text walkthrough to beat Doom Eternal + DLCS on UN?

[burnt moss]

Yeah, don’t

[formal scaffold]

in the base game its gotta be the ARC complex thing

[lapis saddle]

In the main campaign my favorite level is probably Nekravol personally

[formal scaffold]

whats the worst level

[lapis saddle]

I’m treating the 2 parts as 1 level to be clear

[formal scaffold]

oh ok

[lapis saddle]

AFAIK the main reason it was split was to resolve performance issues

[formal scaffold]

i personally think the worst level is like super gore nest because i have played the master level and the normal level so much that it isnt as fun anymore but the thing is i still enjoy it and that shows how good eternal is in my opinion

[burnt moss]

Master levels are ridiculous

[thin coral]

Hello fellow slayers

[glass totem]

Sup.

[wraith osprey]

[robust swallow]

The bomb and VOV are everywhere

I seeing you seeing me eyes over and over again

[waxen field]

Arc master level

[formal scaffold]

never played that one

i still gotta get through extra life mode

[waxen field]

Imagine Arc but worse and easier

[formal scaffold]

oh ok

[robust swallow]

I'm coming back to doom eternal after like a few months on console

Gotta relearn Quickswapping on console again

[azure oriole]

best combat encounters and best soundtrack

[icy ice]

Practice your trouble spots a LOT on NM. I spent several days practicing the holt in preparation for my UN run as that's the hardest level in TAG1.

[azure oriole]

The holt is the hardest?

yea samur

[icy ice]

Yup. Samur's last 2 phases were brutal to master

[ember ice]

How do I get the hotrod skin for the slayer

[haughty swan]

doom is the only story game that I have gone through so fast I already got my crucible in 2 days of playing

I played gow rag for weeks and im not even close to the end

[azure oriole]

doom is not a story game?

not heavily focused on story

[waxen field]

Rip pre nerf slayer gate

[icy ice]

Ironically the possessed marauder wasn't added until after it was nerfed. Maybe it was forgotten or something

I wish I could have experienced all of eternal as and when it launched

It sucks getting to it 2-3 years post launch

But it's still a fantastic game regardless with wonderful mod support

[inner jasper]

so i have this question: How do i play doom 1 in eternal?

[azure oriole]

[inner jasper]

Look it says that i have to beat the campaign but i already did

3times

[lean mirage]

Get all cheat codes in the campain through normal means (Playing level normally) or Replay

Then go to doom guys room and use the old 1990's computer

[inner jasper]

Thanks ! Everyone told me that i had to beat the game bruh

[lean mirage]

You do technically. Since you can't go to the computer again with all cheats until you beat the icon of sin. The last code is in nekravol part II which you can't go back until you beat icon of sin

[jolly kernel]

to me, the best level is Taras Nabad. I really enjoy playing it

worst level is Exultia. it feels long and boring

[azure oriole]

i really dont get why people shit on exultia man😢

[lean mirage]

🟩 🌎

[dull herald]

thats not even right

[azure oriole]

you cant just shoot a hole into the surface of earth

real

why the hell isnt the crucible infinite when i got inf ammo on

too op

[jolly kernel]

true

apparently it was infinite in the early versions

[dull herald]

implying that infinite ammo isnt already too op?
infinite ammo arsenal is even more op than an infinite ammo crucible silly 🤭

[azure oriole]

ok

now infinite hammer

[azure oriole]

I would disagree, while I haven't beat the game yet everything I've come across is a one hit kill with the blade so having it be infinite would make the game too easy

[dull herald]

fails to realize the blade locks you into an animation FOR EVERY DEMON when you can totally decimate entire rooms almost instantly if you're given a bfg with infinite ammo:

[azure oriole]

ok fair, but no need to act like that. like I said I haven't beaten the game yet so this is my first playthrough, I don't know everything yet

[dull herald]

fine sorryyyy but still....

[rapid trench]

Looking for other new players to learn the game with. Me and my buddy just started playing when it became free on ps plus

[azure oriole]

howdy, same story here

[azure oriole]

Dawg chainsaw infinite and its almost the same as crucible 😢

[jolly kernel]

I like how the Arch-Vile's first appearance in this game is sudden without any fanfare

first time I fought him I thought there was a Buff Totem instead

[slow sigil]

you get a giant "how to fight the archvile" popup if that's still on

[jolly kernel]

whoops, my memory is failing me

but yeah, I couldn't find the first Arch-Vile in the game for a bit, I was confused the whole time

[vagrant estuary]

Pisses me off yoy can't glory kill as a revenat in cultist

[azure oriole]

why

[lyric lodge]

How does a skinny ahh who relies on his big blasters on his back be able to glory kill

[azure oriole]

lmao true

[slow sigil]

that would have been so much animation work for something that only happens once or less

[lyric lodge]

But, then again he did smack the shit out of doom guy in 2016 as a death animation iirc

[azure oriole]

again true

[jolly kernel]

playable demons in 2016's mp were able to glory kill normal players I think

[lyric lodge]

Not sure if they would be able to reuse those animations

[azure oriole]

too brutal for eternal

[lyric lodge]

I don't see how any thing's too brutal for doom

[azure oriole]

true

[jolly kernel]

2016 has a wide variety of ways to die, while in Eternal it's either dying normally or getting gibbed

seriously, I miss the demons glory killing the player feature

[slow sigil]

probs didnt have time for it in eternal

[azure oriole]

they couldve atleast reused them

[jolly kernel]

the Marauder being able to glory kill the player would be awesome to see

[lyric lodge]

Honestly yeah imagine if he uses his axe to beat the shit out of you

[jolly kernel]

yep

I imagine the glory kill ending by him shooting you in the face with his super shotgun

[azure oriole]

thry would get annoying

[jolly kernel]

ironically, Eternal feels easier than 2016 due to how much extra lives you can get

I had more than 30 lives by the time I was in the final level

[lyric lodge]

Too bad I was dying so much they all got used

[jolly kernel]

btw, I always wondered what is the rarest enemy in the base campaign

I think it's the Cueball

it only appears in both Cultist Base and Arc Complex in very small numbers

[azure oriole]

Besides cueballs lost souls are very rare not counting the ones spawned by PE’s

[jolly kernel]

yep

[azure oriole]

I only remember like 2 lost soul encounters in the game

[jolly kernel]

they appear as normal enemies in Exultia and Cultist Base I think

the rest are spawned by Pain Elementals

can't remember it much, but Lost Souls spawned by Pain Elementals act more like projectiles than an actual enemy I think

[azure oriole]

Didn’t mean to send that

Mobile moment

[jolly kernel]

lol

honestly though, I don't think the Cueball can be considered an enemy

it's more of a demon explosive barrel than an actual enemy

[vagrant estuary]

Exactly they are lazy fucks who didn't work on that and the level design for boss fight on final sin

[inner jasper]

I don’t understand why would hell make cueballs

[vagrant estuary]

the icon of sin boss fight level design is gross

[jolly kernel]

Possessed Engineers actually attack you, Cueballs don't do anything

[inner jasper]

it was ok

[azure oriole]

lazy fucks? tfym

the bossfights are decent and the game doesnt focus on bossfights either, the core gameplay of de are arena fights

[vagrant estuary]

No it was not the icon of sin level design was ass

[lyric lodge]

I don't see why the death animation is that big of a deal. It's just a lil death animation that's would be cool but isn't exactly necessary at least for me

[azure oriole]

its alright idk how you want it to be

[vagrant estuary]

they were so cool and gruesome bro

[lyric lodge]

Oh absolutely they looked great and is really cool

Buuuut I don't see it as the MOST necessary thing especially going on to call them lazy fucks for it

Still, would've been awesome

[dusk dagger]

Just started Eternal, why is it so cartoony compared to 2016?

[azure oriole]

uh because well

I made it that way

sorry if you don't like the way I made the game

yo dead rider fucking add snapmap

[lyric lodge]

It's kinda supposed to be more faithful to the classics ig

[azure oriole]

youre pissing me off bro add it

[lyric lodge]

Add better death animations too

[azure oriole]

no fuck you

yes better death animations

lazy dev

[lyric lodge]

Lazy fuck

[azure oriole]

I already added Ray tracing what more could you want

get to workkkkkk

[azure oriole]

fuck ray tracing add useful shit

[dusk dagger]

Makes sense. I wish there was a way to make it darker. Gritty filter helps a little bit.

[lyric lodge]

It's not like my switch nor pc could handle it anyway

[dusk dagger]

Woah, tf is happening here?

[lyric lodge]

Add actual useful shit dumbnut

[azure oriole]

i play on low 🥲

[azure oriole]

we are goofing around

[lyric lodge]

I honestly feel it would be an awesome feature to change the darkness of the game in future entries

[azure oriole]

they're making me a sad dev

[lyric lodge]

Ya hear that @azure oriole ?????

[azure oriole]

yes get to work lazy ass

add like 3 more dlcs

[azure oriole]

imma make it so you can only make it brighter

[dusk dagger]

Are they like a snapmap dev or sum?

[lyric lodge]

Bro hell naw don't make me blind

[azure oriole]

theyre just a gamer lol we are joking around

[dusk dagger]

ight

[azure oriole]

ofc big devs wont talk to us

[azure oriole]

yeah totally, you can tell by my special dev role

[lyric lodge]

Don't you dare stop updating the game get yo ass up improve the dark lord boss and add 56 more dlcs

[azure oriole]

jesus 56

truly eternal

[dusk dagger]

Jesus man I was just asking.

[lyric lodge]

Yknow what you're right that's too little

[azure oriole]

oh mann

[azure oriole]

I'm only joking

[azure oriole]

updates stop today

[dusk dagger]

I just started playing doom so i don't know how this works lmao

ima go play some eternal so have a nice rest of your day guys

[azure oriole]

enjoy my game

[lyric lodge]

BOI get yo ass up add 79 more dlcs

[lyric lodge]

Have a great time playing doom eternal! You'll have a lotta fun

[azure oriole]

fucking make me

lets refund his ass game on steam

[lyric lodge]

I will find you and I will bomb your entire neighbourhood

[azure oriole]

no please god no

[lyric lodge]

Ong yes lemme uhh lemme refund the doom 2016 demo

[azure oriole]

NO

you BETTER GWT WORKINGKSKSMMSMDDNJ

I fucking hate the Carcass

I can't say that but I can say fucking?

ok, most punk ass enemy

[lyric lodge]

Carcass is indeed annoying

Why the fuck did you add him smhhhhh

[azure oriole]

that was Jeremy

Hate that guy

[azure oriole]

remove them fr

can't, Jeremy won't let me

Damn you Jeremy

[lyric lodge]

Jeremy why

[azure oriole]

ok I can't say that one either I guess

he's a means stinky poopy pants

that good enough for you VEGA?

Vega is bro

but sometimes he's a dick

yeah I was allowed to say a word Australians use everyday

he does not care about us mere mortals only doomguy

[sacred dirge]

[frigid cypress]

What are some of the best quick switch combos on console, in general and for specific demons?

[azure oriole]

mancubus pb rocket
heck night 1 lock on
meatball 2 lock on and ssg pb
tyrant freeze 3 lock on pb rocket
cybermanc blood punch meathook
archvile freeze 2 lock on

may not be the best but i like them

makes me realize i very rarely use ballista in combos only the destroyer blade for fodder

[jolly kernel]

yeah, fr

they put shields in the absolute worst times

they often do it when you are trying to glory kill a demon

at least they are weak

[slow sigil]

yeah that's how they are programmed

[jolly kernel]

of course I know that

we all know how it's supposed to work, I'm telling why I don't like it

[merry cosmos]

how to stop fucking freezing in doom!!

every like 30min- 1h i keep freezing

[azure oriole]

get hot

[sacred dirge]

Blanket will help

[azure oriole]

again blame Jeremy

[azure oriole]

get something that can actually run it

[merry cosmos]

u telling me an rtx 3060 cant run it?

[azure oriole]

maybe it's not just the graphics card

it's as good as a paperweight if it doesn't have components that allow it to reach its full potential

[jolly kernel]

it would have been good if the Hell Knights were made stronger. they are barely changed from their 2016 versions, which makes them easier to avoid due to your new mobility options

well, at least Dread Knights exist

[runic mesa]

carcass?

yeah but for me

spectral whiplashes 💀

[jolly kernel]

I remember those

the Whiplash actually isn't as bad as I thought it was

[azure oriole]

hell knights are fine they are annoying with other units

[jolly kernel]

you can just use lock-on rockets on it

[azure oriole]

that logic makes no sense u can lock on most demons

doesnt mean they are bad

[jolly kernel]

ice bomb is your best friend

[slow sigil]

just dblade or pb rocket/bal

[jolly kernel]

imo, none of the DE enemies are bad

even though I hate the Carcass, I think it fits its role well

all of the enemies have great designs and diverse roles, none of them are really frustrating to fight

[slow sigil]

stimps

[azure oriole]

I just got softlocked after the double archvile arena in mars core master level on ultra nightmare

[azure oriole]

back

[bleak star]

Playing eternal after awhile again, remind me what were the other two runes that paired well with air control?

[clear gorge]

I just started my first ultra nightmare run, dies anybody have any tips?

[azure oriole]

savagery blood fueled

[slow sigil]

same as nightmare

[bleak star]

What did savagery do again?

[azure oriole]

faster glory kills

[clear gorge]

Any tips on not dying then

[slow sigil]

again, same as nm

there is literally no difficulty difference from UN to NM except no extra lives