doom-eternal

[obtuse iris]

It's coming out

[azure oriole]

its the xbox layout which i like

[unreal flare]

yeah I don't remember that Doom Eternal mechanic

[nocturne lynx]

Controller more than satisfies for the modern games.

[obtuse iris]

Is when you kill a zombie and throw yourself out the window

[azure oriole]

yes its all personal preference

whatever you are comfortable with.

the thing is for games like doom eternal you cant really bind all the weapons to separate keys like you can with k and m but ig you can use the weapon wheel if you like that

[nocturne lynx]

You can switch fast enough with the weapon wheel that the slowdown isn’t completely applied. It’s a minor inconvenience at worst.

[azure oriole]

ye

[nocturne lynx]

Personally I found trying to bind individual weapons to my controller screwed up my everything.

[azure oriole]

ye i can see how it would feel like a cluttered mess on the controller

[merry gazelle]

https://i.imgur.com/5bx8hQv.jpg

[nocturne lynx]

Nah, it’s muscle memory. Had ~250 hours logged when the option became available.

[slow sigil]

daymn

[merry gazelle]

Interesting that the Dread Knight's arms fully robotic looking at the back, for some reason I thought they were armored

[azure oriole]

dread baron

they look so much like the baron from the back

[sand ibex]

the dread knight and baron look too similar in general

[merry gazelle]

It's why overall I do prefer the 2016 Baron

[misty crater]

Hey

[azure oriole]

me when the function doesn't have coleslaw or milk (i'm white lmao)

[sand ibex]

bruhhh ive died twice in a row at 6/8 body sections destroyed

[misty crater]

Nah why did this tab disappear for a second

[azure oriole]

dreadkight leaving the function is the funniest thing I've seen in a while

[azure oriole]

same at least they look scary

[sand ibex]

sometimes when they guys say "KAR EN TUK" in the song it sounds like they are saying "WE ALL HATE ZEUS!"

[upbeat jacinth]

Hi

[sacred dirge]

We do

[upbeat jacinth]

Could someone help me with something.

[azure oriole]

one of the most hated demons tbh

[sand ibex]

is it just me or is the pinky the most annoying demon in doom eternal

[strange gale]

that's crazy bro

[lapis saddle]

Most annoying in 2016? Sure. Eternal not so much now that you have dashes and blood punch to more easily deal with them

[azure oriole]

4/10 not enough cake

[limber canopy]

For sure. We all know barons have the most chiseled cheeks of any demon, second only to the icon of sin himself

[merry gazelle]

Icon of Sin reminds me of that everyone is mean to me meme

[magic island]

Should I buy ancient of the gods?

[abstract pagoda]

Why can I seemingly never fast switch weapons on nintendo switch, I am able to do it on pc just fine

[unreal flare]

What? That's wrong

have you seen the Cyberdemon

[limber canopy]

They are meatier, but lack defenition

Baron of hells mighty ass have sharp edges which in turn gives it a slight edge over the tyrants

[glass totem]

Man SGN master level is far easier than I remember it being.

Blew through it on UV in like 45m-1hr!

Compared to World Spear master level which I spent TWO HOURS on.

[limber canopy]

Easy, you got better at the game

Simple as that

[glass totem]

Yeah I guess that’s true. Plus things can be easier your second time since you know where some things are.

[crude pecan]

Best cheat code: confetti. Only one you need 🤣

I need to beat this master levels, feels good coming back thanks to mighty doom

[halcyon plinth]

Can someone help me with the online trophies?

[red sail]

trophies?

you mean battlemode milestones?

[halcyon plinth]

Yes, the one that i need to kill with the 8 weapons

Thats the hardest

It counts in private matches

[red sail]

i could get some battlemode milestones too

[halcyon plinth]

I can help

[red sail]

i never play battlemode

and sure, by steam?

[halcyon plinth]

In on ps5

Is there crossplay?

[red sail]

not sure

[halcyon plinth]

Let me see

[red sail]

1FB79AF9413A84D6

this is a favorite code, idk if you can add it

[halcyon plinth]

Doom eternal doesn’t supports crossplay

[red sail]

dang

[halcyon plinth]

Well, thanks anyways

[arctic kraken]

hi

[red sail]

hi

[arctic kraken]

anyone wanna play

[red sail]

what platform?

[arctic kraken]

pc

[red sail]

sure for milestones?

[arctic kraken]

im fairly new to onine play

[red sail]

same

[arctic kraken]

alr ill add you to dc call

[red sail]

cant call, i dont have a mic

[haughty parcel]

Spending time to practice specific weapon swap combos

Switching weapons randomly

[sacred dirge]

Nice

[scenic bane]

bro i rlly wanna get the plat

can someone help me with battle mode trophies?

[vague ore]

is there an easy simple way to down patch doom eternal on the xbox app pc version?

[haughty parcel]

Down patch? I don't understand

Oh you mean like use an older version of the game?

I mean the only way I can think of for console is through having a physical disc copy of the game

[slow sigil]

pc version

[haughty parcel]

They probably have like archived older patches of the game somewhere but idk

[jaunty vapor]

Uuuuuh give me a sec to check

but I believe there isn't a way unfortunately, unless you also happen to have the Steam version (which at that point it's kind of moot)

[vague ore]

damn, thanks anyways

[young mango]

Hi bloodshot

I’ve been interchangeable playing 1.0 and 6.66.2 and I managed to beat cultist base ML on 1.0 in a minute thanks to your tip about the death barrier

[jaunty vapor]

Sure thing. Sorry I can't be more help, unfortunately there's just not many resources available about it. Steam luckily has databases that cache/save all the old versions of games in a way that are publicly accessible (if a little annoying to get to at times). Other places just don't do that like Steam does. :/

[azure oriole]

Does the game have a massive difficulty spike at some point or what? I’m playing on UV and it’s pretty reasonable difficulty wise so far.

On Xbox btw

[young mango]

Cultist base I’d say

[azure oriole]

I’m going to have to get used to weapon swapping without hot keys which’ll probably be a pain later on

[karmic sparrow]

nice erection

[crude pecan]

Master levels and 2nd expansion much harder than UV base game.

Nightmare requires memory and knowledge of encounters or you're gonna die alot...

[azure oriole]

Yeah nightmare doesn’t sound fun for a first playthrough

[crude pecan]

UV's good. Everything under UV is unsportsmanlike

[lapis saddle]

There’s nothing wrong with playing on easy if that’s what someone wants to do.

[young mango]

Elitist person who’s calling nightmare hard, no way

[proven flower]

how do i make the game use my gpu

it keeps crashing lol

[lapis saddle]

I can’t imagine wanting to play a master level on easy though. That seems like conflicted goals

[crude pecan]

Lmao elitist

[young mango]

Yes it is elitist you’re quite literally going out of your way to say playing on easier difficulties is “unsportsmanlike”

I’m pointing out the irony that somebody struggling on a higher difficulty but shaming others for also having that same issue

[crude pecan]

If you've played any doom game on console and on, doom eternal with all its perks and glory kill system yeah its not very sportsmanlike.

I've finished every doom game since floppy disc on its max 🤣

[young mango]

So you beat ultra nightmare?

[crude pecan]

Including phone remakes

[lapis saddle]

The lower difficulty modes exist for the purpose of helping weaker players enjoy the game. There’s no sense shaming people for using them

[crude pecan]

Don't take it so personally

[young mango]

And if you want to get technical plutonia was released by ID, so if you beat plutonia on nightmare, I highly doubt it

[crude pecan]

Don't care, who asked

[young mango]

Because you didn’t, don’t be elitist if you can’t back it up

[primal estuary]

homie woke up and decided "I'm gonna be combative as fuck today"

[crude pecan]

You're not shit gatekeeper 🤣🤣🤣

[slow sigil]

HMP for you might be someone else's nightmare

[young mango]

Gatekeeper?

[primal estuary]

¿

[lapis saddle]

Wow an elitist calling someone else a gatekeeper. I’ve officially seen it all now

[primal estuary]

we bow down to you oh supreme lord of all gamers

[crude pecan]

@young mango try to white knight harder

[primal estuary]

it'll help your superiority complex

[young mango]

Try to be a normal person harder

[slow sigil]

Troll try not to be obvious challenge (nightmare)

[crude pecan]

Terminally online complex strikes again

[young mango]

It’s not being terminally online, shaming people for not being good at a video game is terminally online

[primal estuary]

i mean yeah you're the one who's being a dick rn

[crude pecan]

Oh so you do your first play through on nightmare looks impressed 👏🏼

[crude pecan]

Naw Tammies the clown and your piling on

[young mango]

Step down I promise you everybody here talking is a better player than you yet you continue to be elitist

[crude pecan]

Lmao shut the fuck up

[primal estuary]

the clown: can you stop being a dick

[young mango]

Me when I run out of arguments

[slow sigil]

I did it on UV, abandoned it at final sin cause idk why, then did it again on NM and never really plqyed it below that difficulty

[primal estuary]

normal people agree with the "clown"

[crude pecan]

Trash

[primal estuary]

we get it homie being good at this game is all you have

go back to your little cave and leave normal people alone

[slow sigil]

Redoing it since last time i played it was 2 years ago and still have to do worldspear ML and nightmare is going swimmingly so far

[crude pecan]

Stick to hurt me plenty and pipe down

[young mango]

Get a job

[crude pecan]

Got a job thanks 😊

[primal estuary]

you act like playing in uv somehow makes you better than everyone

almost everybody plays on that you ain't special

imagine thinking you're better than everyone because you play 90s games better

[young mango]

Says the person who thinks playing one difficulty higher makes you better

[primal estuary]

you're just exposing yourself as a turbo virgin bro

[crude pecan]

Imagine you thinking you have a point and @young mango protecting strangers is virtuous. @primal estuary not your bro, mate. Touch some grass before using the phrase "turbo virgin"

[primal estuary]

you're still a turbo virgin

[crude pecan]

You're an after-school special

[primal estuary]

you showed up out of nowhere trying to flex how good you are at games and everyone now thinks you're an idiot

[slow sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-25649629

[azure oriole]

You sit upon a nonexistent high horse

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-enjoy-i-like-nom-nom-gif-18780245

[primal estuary]

i don't think he even has the mental capacity to know what horses are

all his 7 neurons are comprised of doom 2 routes for nightmare and thinking he's god

[azure oriole]

Yeah enjoy that sandy peterson level design bub

[dull herald]

lmao

that was a fun read

[hot silo]

Hey everyone, new to the game, was hoping to get some basic info after doing the first two campaign missions.

I see that I can make health, armor and ammo upgrades and was wondering what y’all recommend early on?

[azure oriole]

Personally I nab ammo first, specifically the one that contributes to the loot magnet perk

[strange gale]

these things you listed off are at best circumstantial evidence, and even then i'm having to go through some serious mental gymnastics to believe that in any capacity

[primal estuary]

don't bother

there's no way to talk to that guy

[hot silo]

Thanks! I was running into ammo issues tbh the most

I think it’s mainly since I haven’t unlocked all weapons

[haughty parcel]

cultist base

thats where you get the super shotgun and the rocket launcher

and the game is gunna start expecting a lot more from you after

theres a secret encounter with a whiplash and a mancubus in a tiny space and ngl weapon swapping is gunna make your life 10 times easier for that one

and the slayer gate too

[azure oriole]

Yeah I mean hell knights and caco’s are already giving me trouble

Going to have to work on my movement and weapons swapping

[haughty parcel]

those guys are ok

[azure oriole]

Caco’s are manageable unless they get in close and sneak in a bite attack

[haughty parcel]

they are pressure units but its the other ones like the whiplash

oh man i hate the whiplash

[azure oriole]

Hell Knights are a pain though feel like I can’t avoid damage from them

[haughty parcel]

are you playing on like 300fps or something

[azure oriole]

No I’m on Xbox

[haughty parcel]

cause the game has certain processes tied to fps so

[azure oriole]

Playing at 60

[haughty parcel]

oh well i was gunna say the game is designed around 60fps so if you have more than that it gets harder in strange ways

[azure oriole]

Tbh even on my pc I wouldn’t play anywhere above 165

[haughty parcel]

the game runs pretty well on my computer

i get maybe like 110fps average give or take 15 depending on what is happening on screen (ice bomb sfx 🥶 )

[midnight sparrow]

Aren’t certain levels from the classic games straight up nigh impossible to beat on Nightmare and if so have only been done by like 2 people or have been done as a TAS?

[hot silo]

Oh btw, I saw both dlc are on discount right now and was wondering if they are worth it? I’m enjoying the campaign so far. So yeah

[frigid cypress]

YES

666% Worth it

[haughty parcel]

I bought them like last year and still havent played them 💀

[azure oriole]

tag 1 will be a big skillcheck for beginners

[broken forum]

Yes

I never beat it on nightmare and then I stopped playing the game so

[frigid cypress]

try UV then

[broken forum]

I stopped playing the game

And I don’t do it for the challenge I was doing it for the completion

[broken forum]

Mostly because I stopped using my Xbox

[frigid cypress]

Compared to Nightmare Ultra violence is normal difficulty

[wicked fjord]

I got to the level where you get the crucible!

[frigid cypress]

NICE

[haughty parcel]

How hard can it be 🤨

It's not like theyre gunna throw barons and cybermancubi at you straight away or anything right

[hot nebula]

I have inspiring status

[sacred dirge]

[lean mirage]

Imma attempt super gore next master level nightmare. last time I got stuck in the room with the 2 tyrants, Doom hunter and multiple of this thing .

[quick tiger]

Good luck

[strong pumice]

Ammo is best but more important is to consider which perks you'll unlock every two (ammo/health/armor) upgrades. Flame belch recharge rate was my preferred because I wanted to lean into the flame belch to get armor back before I got the meathook.

[turbid jetty]

ammo is less of a problem if you chainsaw enemies regularly

that's the main thing to remember

the game offers little ammo in the maps because the majority of your ammo supply should come from the chainsaw

[strong pumice]

I may be wrong but I feel like the chainsaw recharge is slower than your ability to get more health or armor. Therefore you'd want larger reserves of ammo early on rather than health or armor which are easier/faster to attain in a cycle.

Plus you want the room to go ham with a couple or few specific weapons before having chainsaw again

[azure forum]

DLCs are absolutely worth it.

[strange gale]

why do you, as a 30+ year old man, clown react things and act the way you do in general? @crude pecan https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504714848194527236/1102080357953716254/image.png

elon musk's ongoing midlife crisis is just barely worse than this

[lyric lodge]

Why can't we get a normal day man

[crude pecan]

Who are you and why are you talking

[strange gale]

you're in a public server, so anybody can dish this out right back at you

you don't get to choose who talks shit back, unfortunately

[crude pecan]

And everyone can hear your loose cheeks clapping before you enter the room. Put some diapers on

[strange gale]

see this isn't insulting to anybody

this is something you say when you're losing a playground argument because you can't think of anything specific to the person you're talking to

[crude pecan]

You don't have an argument

[strange gale]

neither do you, you presented the "doing x and y things in z game is unsportsmanlike" as if it were fact, but you never brought up anything to actually prove that claim

worst part is that i actually agree on that, and i bet i could do a better job of finding evidence to support it

[crude pecan]

LOL

[strange gale]

i'm going to quote you directly,
"If you've played any doom game on console and on, doom eternal with all its perks and glory kill system yeah its not very sportsmanlike."

i agree with this, but it's just a statement with nothing to back it up

playing on console or making use of a core mechanic such as glorykilling is not inherently unsportsmanlike, bad, or whatever other adjective you wanna attach to it

[crude pecan]

You don't need evidence to prove the lowest difficult in eternal takes less brain cells than you have to rub together to clear. Halo CE on easy with recharging shields or call of duty MW original with its red jelly wiped regen is more engaging. On what planet is this a debate. You're just another debate lord with more hair on your asshole than your chin.

What argument you think your winning and what scholarly point you think your making is hilariously in your head

[strange gale]

that's how thinking works, yes

[livid crag]

Who plays on easy baby bottle mode?

[strange gale]

literally anything you do or say starts as a thing in your head

[crude pecan]

You're just debatelording nothing

[livid crag]

LOL

[strange gale]

no, what i'm doing is calling you a confident dumbass

i tried to tell you that in a less insulting way but it clearly isn't getting through

[crude pecan]

You're just running your meat wallet while furiously glazing your own reflection

[lyric lodge]

Usually new doom players would obv

[strange gale]

now, the whole point of difficulty settings is that there's practically an infinite number of variables that change what one person finds easy and another doesn't

this is not "debatelording" or "a scholarly point", it's a basic fact

[crude pecan]

glask winning arguments in his head like randy marsh in South Park at the computer

[strange gale]

you don't even have to bring up disabilities to prove this wrong,

You don't need evidence to prove the lowest difficult in eternal takes less brain cells than you have to rub together to clear.
i bet you that the current chess world champion would have trouble with doom eternal on any difficulty

[livid crag]

I guess if they never played a FPS game before. Never play easy modes myself on any game. Takes all the fun out of a game.

[lyric lodge]

You can't really blame them. They're completely new to the game(possibly even the franchise) so they don't know wtf there is so they would obv like to play the lowest difficulty to learn the game. That's pretty much what lower diffculties are for, practice and learning the game.

[crude pecan]

I guarantee you Ding Liren, Magnus Carlsen, and Nepo can do better than the bottom

[lyric lodge]

Ig it does take away the fun of a game if you love challenges, although that's not what everyone loves or wants so that's why lower difficulties are available

[strange gale]

playing fps games, no matter what, requires some amount of knowledge specific to them, yes?

doesn't matter how high your iq is or how good your common sense is, you will not have that knowledge without having played fps games for some time

[livid crag]

Challenges are what makes the world spin more chaotically. Keeps things interesting.

[crude pecan]

Not even the majority of players want to die habitually or master Nightmare/UM. Of course a new player should learn the mechanics. But if you're an FPS player, unless you want to breeze a story mode for the content, it's basically putting an NFL linebacker in a Peewee game

[strange gale]

now the implication of this,

You don't need evidence to prove the lowest difficult in eternal takes less brain cells than you have to rub together to clear.
is that you can beat itytd without knowing anything about anything, which i hope everyone here can understand is false

instead of making good arguments, you speak passionately and force an insult into every sentence in the hope that the people you talk to latch onto that instead of thinking about what you're really saying

the funny part being is that all i feel is second hand embarrasment

[livid crag]

Easy modes are Nanny modes in my opinion. Either man up or move on.

[crude pecan]

Doom on easy is low effort, not a challenge for anyone who isn't playing stardew Valley and harvest moon. Who are you even defending

A side scrolling platformer can breeze it after getting the hang of it.

NM/UM/Master levels scale immensely over the base game

This is a fact. You don't have an argument that stands up to any scrutiny. Trying to strawman the completely clueless, allegedly, chess grandmaster as an analog for "expert in one thing but not in this particular FPS and that's why easy mode exists" is so transparently disingenuous. I did not say those modes shouldn't exist but DID insinuate they are not challenging for FPS players.

And yeah kid. You're a debatelord loser.

You're literally doing it, right now.

[strange gale]

aren't you doing it too?

you're engaging me with equally long, if not longer paragraphs

[crude pecan]

Edifying your self righteous ass was my mistake

[strange gale]

again, you say "doom on easy is low effort"

what is the baseline you're comparing against to make that claim?

[red sail]

bruh is this a doom argument

[strange gale]

i agree with you, but what is the baseline?

[crude pecan]

LOL oh idk. Playing shooters since quake. Get a grip buddy.

[strange gale]

that's just you

[azure oriole]

average day on doom discord

[red sail]

he baseline is that you both just walk outside and breath fresh air

[strange gale]

what i'm asking is what your universal baseline is, i shouldn't have to spell it out like this

[crude pecan]

The basline is glask is debate lording to white knight casuals 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[livid crag]

No easy mode is for wimps plain and simple

[red sail]

im just going to leave yall to what your doing

[lyric lodge]

That's the most valid choice 🙏🙏🙏

[crude pecan]

What's yours buddy? Pokemon Go?

Blocked 🤣 keep pissing in the wind while you tell yourself it's rain

[azure oriole]

mines candy crush

[strange gale]

is everyone, from birth, good enough at fps games for itytd to be easy for them? clearly that cannot be the case since you immediately after bring up two famously easy games, and imply itytd is for that playerbase

[lyric lodge]

Mines flappy bird

Actually no now that I think about it's it's the offline Dino game

[crude pecan]

Good Flappy bird runs take timing and skill 👏🏼

[azure oriole]

oh ye lol love that

my high score is like 600 smth

[lyric lodge]

Best game of all time no doubt

[strange gale]

it's not quite a contradiction, but you say "doom on easy is low effort" as if that's a universal fact regardless of who's playing the game and then immediately go on to bring up people to who itytd could absolutely be hard

[azure oriole]

cant agree more

[strange gale]

the block is the cherry on top of the cake

[dire fiber]

how come people hate the maruder

[livid crag]

I get what you are saying. But if you are buying Doom then chances are you have already played FPS games. Not even my 5 yr old grandson plays on easy. He says it is for babies which makes me laugh.

[lyric lodge]

People really don't anymore. They just love bullying his ass

[azure oriole]

just an annoying chump

[lyric lodge]

Okay yeah that too he is kinda annoying at times

[azure oriole]

Wolfenstein's Difficulty selector
"Daddy, can I play?"

[crude pecan]

Especially on the super gore nest master levels

[livid crag]

Hell ya, just don't tell mom I let you!!

[lyric lodge]

Oh hell no now I need to get wolfenstien

[crude pecan]

With the baby attire and pacifier

[azure oriole]

it shames you for playing on that

[livid crag]

Don't get Young Blood. Kind of lame in my opinion

[lyric lodge]

While yeah it kinda does but me personally I just find it as a light joke and nothing more

[azure oriole]

ye

[strange gale]

I did not say those modes shouldn't exist but DID insinuate they are not challenging for FPS players.

You don't need evidence to prove the lowest difficult in eternal takes less brain cells than you have to rub together to clear.

that insinuation did not exist until right at the end when you backpedaled and invented it to make what you'd been saying before look better. when discussing difficulty in anything, it makes no sense to assume the lowest one is for people with significant enough experience to call them "fps players" or any equivalent

[sand ibex]

are there any mods besides the deathmatch and coop mods that add new multiple slayer gamemodes?

[crude pecan]

Keep pissing in the wind. You lost. You're wrong. Stay blocked.

[strange gale]

you keep opening these @crude pecan, i'm rent free in your head

you don't even see the pings because you have me blocked, you click on these unprovoked

[sand ibex]

oh god what the hell was going on before i got here lmao

[lyric lodge]

Pretty sure there's a mod for davoth

Matter of fact a mod for the whole campaign(pretty popular)

[strange gale]

you never proved me wrong or yourself right

[azure oriole]

kaiser

[sand ibex]

that lets you play coop?

[azure oriole]

epic mod i love it
its so hard too

[strange gale]

you pointed out some flaws in my argumentation, but that's it

[azure oriole]

dont think it has coop

its like master level for the whole campaign

[sand ibex]

oh my original question was asking for mods that adds gamemodes where multiple people can play as slayers

like the deathmatch and coop mods

but i was wondering if there were any others

[azure oriole]

hmmm probably

need to check nexus mods

[lyric lodge]

Never heard of any slayer game modes but you could try hunting for more mods

[livid crag]

They are just having a d **k swinging contest. Nothing to worry about. Testosterone kind of thing.

[sand ibex]

what was the argument about

[lyric lodge]

Lower diffculties being for "wimps" and shit

[livid crag]

Easy modes and perks in Doom eternal is what I gathered

[strange gale]

all the text is up there

[livid crag]

Way too much to go back and read. The both of you were dumping essays!! lol

[random vault]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-chazz-the-chazz-chazz-princeton-yugioh-gx-gif-22489499

tenor gifs try to be funny challenge

[strange gale]

petty internet arguments are unreasonably entertaining

that's about it

[livid crag]

Yes they are

[random vault]

why is this relatable

[cyan frigate]

honestly yeah lmao. ive been lurking here and there reading it and its great

[livid crag]

Yeah well I ran out of popcorn.. so there is that..

[sand ibex]

lmao i just read through most of that argument and thats some of the funniest shit ive ever seen

also dumping on people who play on lower difficulties is lame

[livid crag]

Are you trying to get them all fired up again!!

[sand ibex]

nah im just making my perspective clear

[livid crag]

And so were they!! lol

But I think they had to go to bed. Been quiet.

[random vault]

“your just bad” mf’s when i remind them they weren’t instantly good at video games and had to learn by playing lower difficulties

[livid crag]

It is true most gamers will start on a easy mode to learn, but then there are players like me that dive right into the fire and play on the harder settings. I have always been like that with any game I get. It can get frustrating but nothing good comes easy.

[strong pumice]

Why are you bothering to argue with someone who is never going to agree or admit defeat even if you logically secure victory? Plus they aren't exactly wrong per se... in almost all but the most niche of cases, if you're playing Doom Eternal you're familiar enough with the FPS genre to play UV.

[random vault]

you weren’t always good tho, everyone starts bad, and you usually learn with easy mode

[strong pumice]

Like I said, niche example

[random vault]

he already explained

[random vault]

.

[strange gale]

i argue with people i'm never going to talk to again because it's really funny

[strong pumice]

And I'm doing the same thing.

[random vault]

so your asking a rhetorical question?

[strong pumice]

As rhetorical as arguing with people online

Here's your medal 🏅

[livid crag]

No I wasn't always good but never switched to easy mode either. I might be old but I am not that old to forget things.

[random vault]

what did i do brah

i have idiot syndrome idk whats sarcasm and what isnt

i was asking if it was rhetorical

[strong pumice]

Swapping to easy wouldn't help anything but aim or controls familiarity. As soon as you change difficulty again you have to respect the dance. Even Hugo Martin talks about it the same way. Easy does not teach you how to play eternal the way they intended.

[strange gale]

Plus they aren't exactly wrong per se... in almost all but the most niche of cases, if you're playing Doom Eternal you're familiar enough with the FPS genre to play UV.
i agree, that makes sense, i was more pointing out the logical incongruencies in his argumentation caused by that assumption

[strong pumice]

Well douche bags hardly do their diligence do they

[random vault]

i said usually, not you

[strong pumice]

Youre fine, just having fun. I was sort of agreeing about the rhetorical nature of my question. Would you like another medal?

[random vault]

i would like money

[livid crag]

you made a funny

[strong pumice]

I would like to feel okay with playing UV but its like I have ATI in my head shaming me for not playing Nightmare

[azure oriole]

lmaoo

[strong pumice]

Fucking toxic cycle of swapping difficulty and then swapping back after an hour of frustration. I just get cognitive fatigue and end up making a monumentally stupid mistake

[random vault]

this is the true skill issue, i will play whatever difficulty i want because online shame is stupid and i will not have others tell me how to play my games

[strong pumice]

Shame its my own sense of pride egging me on

[azure oriole]

its fun going back to hmp after dying a ton in un

[strong pumice]

See I just feel like whenever I drop back down to UV from Nightmare, I'm just training the wrong way.

[azure oriole]

why's that training the wrong way

[livid crag]

Because they play different

[strong pumice]

The dance is easier at lower difficulties. Doesn't teach me the time spaces I have or how sweaty I should be playing/thinking

[azure oriole]

that is true ye, playing on high difficulties make it a lot easier on the lower difficulties

cuz you set your bar high enough

[strong pumice]

For a time, until you get used to it and lazy. Idk maybe I'm getting old and I can't cognitively keep up for hours on end. Shit is super sweaty. Marauders make my heart rate rise and I'm ashamed to admit it. Sometimes I cycle fuck them and he never gets to attack. Other times I'm gang banged by him and his dog in a corner while a cybermancubus jizzes green all over us.

I've just killed God in Tag1

They aren't kidding, the dlc is hard.

[azure oriole]

yep

[strong pumice]

After beating the game on UV I was like eh I'll take on Tag1 on nightmare, I can handle it...

[livid crag]

The only way to truly succeed is by doing the grind in NM. It is far more rewarding. But going back UV will cheer you up with the easier kills.

[strong pumice]

Love how you call it a grind

[azure oriole]

right
practicing on nightmare enough can prepare you for un
i only find these two fun cuz i subconsciously restrict myself to playing only on these
however i dont look down on those who play on lower difficulties

[livid crag]

It Doom Eternal... Something is getting ground! lol

[azure oriole]

either your sanity or demons

[strong pumice]

Isn't UN just NM no death?

[azure oriole]

yes but trying not to die on nm is the same thing

[livid crag]

I will never knock anyone for how they play. I might clown on ya , but to each their own. Not everyone learns the same way or will to get the crap beat out of them.

[azure oriole]

true

[strong pumice]

I feel like console has a bit of a harder time given the controls and input lag

So they get a general pass for 1 step down lol

[livid crag]

Have not played on a console since the early 90s

[azure oriole]

and the fact that you cant bind all weapons to separate keys

if only there were buttons on the back of the controller

[livid crag]

Can you do macros on a console?

[strong pumice]

Well you can in fact bind weapons to buttons but only through the games custom control UI which locks you to using the movement stick to select from the weapon wheel which gives me cancee

As you can see it is afflicting me already

[azure oriole]

lol

[strong pumice]

But with how limited the options are you could only feasible fit like 3 guns to buttons without just doing without grenades, belch or crucible/hammer

Which I totally considered getting rid of the crucible just to have a hot swap to SSG

[azure oriole]

pretty sure WW is the closest thing to a macro

[livid crag]

ah

[azure oriole]

you dont get to use the crucible much anyway

only after taras nabad but its forgettable

[strong pumice]

Once I'm better ill probably redesign my control scheme and fuck myself all up

The base controller design needs a upgrade. More shoulder buttons!

[azure oriole]

yes

i think the xbox elite controller has those like
little pads at the back

[strong pumice]

Lol someone always brings that up whenever I mention this haha

[azure oriole]

hah

[strong pumice]

Didn't the OG Xbox have the two black and white buttons below XBAY as well as triggers and bumpers?

They just came away from it ig

I wish there were more console fucks here I could talk to about custom control schemes. Hugo Martin plays on default and it makes me SICK

[azure oriole]

i dont even remember the og controller
i just remember it being a fat boi

[strong pumice]

It was a big boi

[tepid wasp]

yup there were black and white buttons on the original

went over to a friends house and we played Combat Evolved as kids

[strong pumice]

Ayy CE was my Xbox intro as well, 7yo at my babysitters

[tepid wasp]

I didn't have one of my own, nor was I good at the game,

plus we had that Godzilla game from pipeworks

[strong pumice]

Same never had an og xbox but I loved halo forever more after that.

Now I gotta YouTube thus godzilla game

[tepid wasp]

I've gotten back into halo cuz I share a steam with said friend and I play MCC when he isn't on

been a while since I have, cuz a bug happened were I can't progress in reach

[strong pumice]

Nice, I dragged the 360 out to play Reach again. My only halo copy. I want MCC bad but I'm holding out for when I have a PC

I then moved on to 4 and dear God I forgot how bad it was

[tepid wasp]

i like the Spartan IVs out of all the designs

it's got that greek superman look to the undersuit and I love thos huge towers on the back

[strong pumice]

Are they vents?? Shoulder pads?

[tepid wasp]

another friend I have was talking about the Forerunners recently about how they used to be human. idk a lot of halo lore for 4 but I think some cues from forerunner tech were taken. Given that they forerunners were human everything came full circle: A HALO.

[strong pumice]

What 4 did with the forerunners was heresy

[tepid wasp]

what, give them more light?

[strong pumice]

Why would the forerunners, a name we gave them, call themselves forerunners?

Too much light***

[tepid wasp]

i get it, providing more insight about a mysterious force in the universe sort of ruins their mystery

[strong pumice]

I would've been fine with that but the whole evil nemesis thing and making them human...

4 was a disaster mostly because of presentation but the writing was anything but strong enough to balance it out

[azure oriole]

i think mcc is on 80% off rn

[strong pumice]

Steam? I'm still on console

[tepid wasp]

plus u can buy them each individually

[azure oriole]

you can get it on your phone and then download it on pc when you get one

[strong pumice]

Good thinking, I have a copy of NV already. Thanks for the heads up!

New Vegas*

Once I get a PC I'll fall into a New Vegas hole for a couple months before anything else gets attention. My years of console play demand it.

[tepid wasp]

I managed to get Destiny 2 for free on the Epic launcher

[azure oriole]

yes thats also free to play on steam

[strong pumice]

Now your 1/10 of the way to a full game!

[tepid wasp]

LOL

Gotta buy all the DLC huh

[strong pumice]

Sales sales sales

I dont like it enough to care, played some as a freebie and while it is great its not for me. Thank GOD lol

[tepid wasp]

I'm not always online because I like to keep busy but every time I come here it's a nice conversation

[strong pumice]

Thanks, I'm enjoying myself too

[tepid wasp]

so what you're saying is Halo would be bad but in a different way

Be a real Bungie fan and play Marathon lol

[strong pumice]

Noooo

I love to tell this fun fact : bungie was tired of Halo before they even released the first game

What a tragically hilarious play of events

[tepid wasp]

majora's mask and mario galaxy 2 moment

[strong pumice]

Gotta give it up to them though for releasing so many titles after that before finally pulling out

At least Zelda survived lol. Halo is going to die for another 10 years because of infinite

[livid crag]

Did I miss anything good. Had to let the dogs out.

[azure oriole]

its one of those games that is still around only for the memes now

[strong pumice]

And the constant MT money flow

12yos who have something to prove are profitable

[tepid wasp]

not by my friend's estimate. It's getting back to where it should be slowly. Shorter seasons, more community made content, more cross-core features (though it's not very well done)

[strong pumice]

Infinite has fundamental issues like weapon balance and there is no fixing the MT problem. Thats industry wide, so no hope there.

I'm happy for anyone who can enjoy it. But the oldest fans are shaking their heads

343 just sucks and even Microsoft is weary of them

[tepid wasp]

mmmm

[strong pumice]

I mean Infinite went through what 3 different leads?

And they hired people who hate halo....?

[tepid wasp]

people responsible for the biggest complaints about infinite are gone

[livid crag]

Too many games have turned to play-to-win BS.

[strong pumice]

Thats good news

[strong pumice]

Is that a typo or you being clever

[tepid wasp]

play to win?

all the money made from Infinite are all cosmetics

[azure oriole]

pay to win?

[strong pumice]

Man types play so much more than pay that autocorrect came in

[tepid wasp]

and even then the cosmetics pricing is busted

[livid crag]

typo... not that clever!! lol

[strong pumice]

I've thought this ever since it started...just reduce your prices so a single skin isn't 20 bucks like wtf

$1-$5 purchases seem smart, people wouldn't keep track and they'd just keep buying shit constantly. Idk, they probably did their research and their way is the best way for money. But if things were just significantly cheaper I wouldn't care as much. But this is ridiculous. Can't even change your color for free wtf

[tepid wasp]

i gtg, see yall later

[azure oriole]

i dont get the appeal of custom skins
its just stupid that people pay for overpriced weapon skins

[livid crag]

Later

[azure oriole]

see ya

[livid crag]

Some peope just have to have the bling!!!

There is already a game for people that want to play is costumes. It is called Fornite!

[azure oriole]

right lol

[strong pumice]

A YouTube video expanded my view on the skins thing. It's an attempt (successful of course) to restrict player expression. The emotes especially in Fornites case

Once we have full body tracking in VR we will at least not have emotes anymore. But skins are probably a permanent thing

[strong pumice]

You say that but is your Doom Slayer skin the default?

[azure oriole]

earning skins through gameplay is much more rewarding

[strong pumice]

Legit. Old CoD had it right

Only time or skill got you the cooler skins.

[azure oriole]

Havent played cod, probably

[lyric lodge]

Playing cod bo rn

[strong pumice]

There was a set of challenges to unlock the skins. They kept the system even after introducing the purchasable skins, and still have it today. The gold skin is too iconic to not include in a CoD at this point.

BO1?

Black Ops 1 is my favorite CoD. Tied for best zombies with WaW.

[azure oriole]

the world at war multi maps look really cool ngl

[livid crag]

Yup 100%. Changing the way a character looks is not going to make you play any better or worse. Just stand out more.

[strong pumice]

Wait so you don't bother with any of the different slayer skins?

[livid crag]

Nope

Not my thing

[strong pumice]

I personally hate the bolts on the gauntlets and go with the original doom costume

Thats a neat perspective

[azure oriole]

i go with the the quakecon white skin

[livid crag]

I don't have anything against people using different skins. To each their own.

[strong pumice]

Course, and I am not gawking at your indifference, in case that was perceived. I used to feel the same way for the longest time, I eventually turned

[livid crag]

I am only in it for the action and the killing. I could care less what you look like! lol

[strong pumice]

For eternal I 99% agree except I can see his hands in gameplay and those bolts sticking out really bug me

The fact I'm able to change is it so nice and only serves to save me from the ugliness.

But in GTAO I'm a scantily clad babe, of course.

[livid crag]

It is a cool aspect of the game. But you are just a tick in my belt kind of thing.

[strong pumice]

Wait, I'm a tick in your belt?

[livid crag]

If you are in my crosshairs.. YES!!!

[strong pumice]

Ahhh

Sometimes I forget to just rip and tear everything as fast as possible

[livid crag]

I kill indiscriminately

[strong pumice]

BFG or Unmakyr?

[cyan frigate]

bolts?

[livid crag]

Tell you the truth I rarely use either one. Yes I tend to take a beating now and then.

[strong pumice]

Short verticle cylinders protruding from the top of the gauntlets. They look like bolts sticking out like the heads are under the armor.

[strong pumice]

Okay then Arbalest or Slicey Dicey

[cyan frigate]

ooooh gotcha. i honestly like them alot, adds much more depth to the armor but to each their own 👍

[azure oriole]

db charge animation is badass

[strong pumice]

Theyre featured on a lot of the armors, and despite my frustration at that, I can see why they went with it. Its rough and badass.

I've just never liked the hulking ogre body shape. I hated Gears of War only just because of that

[cyan frigate]

yee true. like, theres no real reason for them to be there but thats what i like in games, especially armor. coolness over practicality imo

[strong pumice]

I'm sure they get some action during his constant ripping. Might even get your hand caught in some guts

[cyan frigate]

gears of war has disproportioned bodies and dont wear helmets it drives me crazy 😭🤣

[strong pumice]

And they run like an elephant and turn like a statue.

[cyan frigate]

thats what ill think from now on i like it 😎

[strong pumice]

Youre welcome

Which skin is your favorite? I'm hypocritically using the flaming default skin for the moment because I like flaming hands

[livid crag]

1 less coyote in the world

[strong pumice]

You wot

[livid crag]

Well there was a coyote on my back porch. That was it's last porch!!

[cyan frigate]

my main and personal favorite is the 25th anniversary slayer skin i love the gunmetal grey sleekness and rareness of it

[cyan frigate]

but nice! cant go wrong with flaming hands 😎

[strong pumice]

I had a feeling you meant you killed a coyote just now. What did you use

[livid crag]

That is exactly what I just did

My glock 9. Two pops and done deal.

[strong pumice]

Admitedlly i don't have many of the skins unlocked other than those given through the deluxe (and year one) edition...don't ask.

My general complaint is lack of sleeknesss

[strong pumice]

Oh not bad. What do you do with the body?

[livid crag]

In the morning will just drag it back into the field. The buzzards will take care of the rest.

[light pasture]

Do dooms demons need to eat

[haughty parcel]

god i love super gore nest

[upbeat laurel]

I love it to, I’ve just done it so many times that I’m a bit bored of it

[dull herald]

me with the entire game

@young mango i truly do not know how you've played so long and kept going

legitimately impressed

[strange gale]

self-imposed challenges are always fun

wr level speedrunners have hours in the 3-5k range

[lapis saddle]

There’s something really weird and surreal about the barbarian skins. Seeing a Conan looking mofo wielding a shotgun, chainsaw and plasma weapons is a big theme clash

Kinda makes me laugh

[azure oriole]

lmaooo true

[sacred dirge]

Still love it

[slow sigil]

most probably do, pinkies are seen as a delicacy

[jolly kernel]

true

I like the demonic slayer skin. the slayer being on fire is a cool touch

[alpine hazel]

personal fav is a tie between cultist n maykr

[jolly kernel]

for some reason, when enemies get staggered, I like getting to specific areas around their body so I can see more glory kill animations

it doesn't get old seeing the same animations, but many of the from above/behind glory kills from example are very fun to watch too

in regards to the the Tyrant, I like jumping just so I can get the glory kill where he gets stabbed in the eye

[young mango]

Autism

[slow sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896461823786762300/1102252340330909776/image.png

guys i just reached 5 hours and i think i'm already pretty good at this game!!! AMA!!

[steady needle]

get good at weapon combos

[slow sigil]

that's not a question

[steady needle]

also don't forget to always keep moving

fun game, im almost done with my ultra nightmare playthrough but i have a save on the last level bc the final boss messed me up once and killed my run

[azure oriole]

baby slayer

[slow sigil]

😢

[steady needle]

u got it homie. one day you'll complete your ultra nightmare run

u playing on pc or console?

[slow sigil]

well this is the steam UI soooo

[slow sigil]

meh UN is too bothersome for me

[limber canopy]

My current goal is UN

But i keep dying in the hell part of exultia and its pissing me off

[steady needle]

you'll get good enough if you practice. the thing is you don't really get to that level unless you grind it

[slow sigil]

not as in it's hard, but making a lil mistake in the endgame makes you gotta redo the early game

[steady needle]

the first 3-4 levels are the biggest hump. after you get most of the good weapons and upgrades you're good

[slow sigil]

plus it's just nightmare level, so it's not even more difficulty then base

[limber canopy]

Yeah the biggest hurdle is defenetively cultist base

[steady needle]

i mean that's what makes it hard man. i've died countless of times and i'm just short of getting the final boss

[abstract pagoda]

Finally hit 50 hrs🥳, only 4 more milestones to go

[slow sigil]

it makes it annoying more then anything

[steady needle]

that pit area is the fucking worst. you need to abuse the damn explosive zombies and shoot them towards the mancubi

[steady needle]

eh it takes skill, you'll realize how much better you get when you grind it. it's annoying for sure but in this game, 99% of your deaths are your fault, not the game BSing you

[limber canopy]

I dont utelize the rocket launcher nearly enough

[slow sigil]

yeah and making a mistake at teras forces you to redo HellOE and exultia? yeah no thanks, that's too bothersome

[steady needle]

gotta utilize all your weapons and grenades. im bad about using my ice bomb

[limber canopy]

So i keep trying to get to mancubuses but i keep forgetting i dont have SSG or ballista

[steady needle]

it sucks bruh but you can do it

[limber canopy]

I'm too used to slapping up master levels

[slow sigil]

it's not about if i can do it
it's just that i am not gonna waste my time doing basically just nightmare again

if i want a nightmare playthrough, i''ll do nightmare

[steady needle]

try it!!! it's fun

[slow sigil]

no not really

[steady needle]

i promise it is once you get past the first couple levels. it's a huge rush

[slow sigil]

yay i have to redo the sluggish early game because i died at final sin!!!! so fun to redo stuff i already mastered!

[steady needle]

yeah that was me LOL and i ended up taking a break when i got back to final sin. but now im practicing the icon of sin fight and i think i can do it

the gold slayer skin is worth it

[lyric lodge]

quite some people here do seem to prefer the phobos

[slow sigil]

cheese skin

[steady needle]

eh

cheese skin is elite

[lyric lodge]

i love my american plastic cheese

[slow sigil]

i'd rather have a skin that actually looks good then something that shows of i did the same task over and over and over and over

if you wanna show of you're actually good and know the game in and out, speedrun

[limber canopy]

It is better but is way more tedious to unlock

No wait that cant be right

What i was meant to say its much more vague

Doesn't really say anywhere how to unlock it

[slow sigil]

"epic" unmaykr got

[steady needle]

ultra nightmare speedrun?

[slow sigil]

ig

[steady needle]

y u so against ultra nightmare 😭 it's a whole lot harder than nightmare and there is tedium but it's more about mastering the mechanics and being on your game

[slow sigil]

it's technically just as hard as NM

you try not to die in either gamemode

[steady needle]

yeah and that's why it's way harder

[sacred dirge]

One adds the nerves I guess. That's a pretty big factor

[steady needle]

nightmare is a cakewalk

[azure oriole]

wait till you do 2016 un

[slow sigil]

then you should have no trouble in UN

[steady needle]

nah man it's a hell of a lot harder

[slow sigil]

no it's the exact same difficulty

[steady needle]

u should try it out then 🥴

[steady needle]

i've never really tried it. i only got good at doom with eternal, i just played 2016 pretty casually

[slow sigil]

i did

[steady needle]

got that gold skin?

[slow sigil]

technically

[sacred dirge]

Deathless nightmare happens pretty often at higher play and it is the same as UN. un however adds stress to your mind and can make you choke. That's it's gimmick

[steady needle]

and you have to be nearly flawless. it's easy to get through nightmare and die once or twice by stupid shit because you weren't fully paying attention. but un you need to be on that game

[slow sigil]

also debetably less fun because you kinda "have" to play less risky which is also less fun

[azure oriole]

nah just go mad at it

[jolly kernel]

even though people say each weapon in DE has a purpose, you can get through a majority of the game using ssg + pb + rl + ballista

the rapid fire weapons are almost useless

[slow sigil]

people who say that generally dont really know what they are talking about and just say things people at y1 said

[azure oriole]

these multiplayer trophies are a pain in the buttocks

[jolly kernel]

in fact, I frequently forget the chaingun exists in 2016 and Eternal

[slow sigil]

luckily you arent forced to do them

[azure oriole]

i am

[jolly kernel]

yeah

[azure oriole]

its called dedication

[jolly kernel]

I barely use the chaingun and plasma rifle

[azure oriole]

im doing this shit

[jolly kernel]

I sometimes use combat shotgun sticky bombs

[limber canopy]

@jolly kernel you remember what i told you a few weeks ago?

[jolly kernel]

Tyrant sculpture?

[limber canopy]

Yup

#artwork

[sacred dirge]

Well done. Looks fantastic

[tribal orbit]

Chaingun shield blocks all incoming damage while it’s up, and when the shield gets launched it falters demons. It’s extremely underrated

[slow sigil]

not really, most peeps know it's on demand godhood

[tribal orbit]

If you’re in here, yeah but I think most people miss that if they just play normally

[steady needle]

tbh i only ever use it for the gladiator and the icon of sin fights xd

[tribal orbit]

It’s usually my get out of jail free card

[limber canopy]

Does it have an hp value or is it indestructible until the timer runs out?

[tribal orbit]

I think it has an hp value but I’m not certain

[slow sigil]

it's HP is like 200+ or something

more then enough atleast to get you to safety

[tribal orbit]

Or bash spam a baron until it’s dead

[strange gale]

600 hp

on top of slayer's maximum of 350 hp

[jolly kernel]

does dashing to an enemy and hitting them deals any damage to them?

[slow sigil]

it does

[jolly kernel]

lol

[young mango]

It’s too precise imo, I do it the traditional way and fight the mancubi

[clever falcon]

How long is the story?

[young mango]

Bout 6 hours if you’re decent at the game and binging it

[clever falcon]

Oh damn

[jolly kernel]

dude

there’s no way you can beat the campaign in that amount of time

[slow sigil]

i'm at nekroval p2, havent played the game in years, and i'm at 6,1 hours

6 hours is a bit wild but i would put 8-9 definitely in a decent range

[viral slate]

Anyone know how to deal with a possessed mancubus and being ambushed by barons on reclaimed earth nightmare?

[jolly kernel]

I think the game took me like 20+ hours when I completed it for the first time

I went to get every collectible in the game though

[young mango]

Getting the praetor points in UN even isn’t that hard because you can still be 12 short and have every upgrade

But actually 100%ing it is a different story

[jolly kernel]

in regards to toys

I wish the Tentacle and non-Earth zombies had toys too

I like how there's a cheat called idqqd yet it doesn't make you invincible like the Classic Doom cheat code of the same name does

[strong pumice]

What DOES the cheat do then

[young mango]

Sentinel armor

[strong pumice]

Oohhh

[jolly kernel]

ngl, I'm not lying when I say I can't really notice a difference between DE's lowest and max graphics settings

[strong pumice]

I honestly wouldn't mind being able to turn down the graphics on console.

[peak sluice]

Is rtx 60 fps to 120 non rtx really a difference I’m playing in ps5 rn

[young mango]

You should squeeze every frame you can out of it

[jolly kernel]

higher fps means the game also becomes faster from what I heard

[primal estuary]

If your screen supports a refresh rate higher than 60hz then you should play at 120 yeah

[sacred dirge]

Oh ya the difference is night and day compared to 60 fps and 100 plus

[jolly kernel]

the game is already fast enough on 60 fps to me

[azure oriole]

120 fps makes ur meathook faster amd meathook jump higher while making quickswaps and punchswaps faster

[slow sigil]

it doesnt effect game speed much except for meathook

[azure oriole]

it is noticeable

for example hellknight dash is alot faster

[young mango]

Hellknights getting stuck midair too

[abstract pagoda]

Wish I wasn't stuck on 30 fps

[azure oriole]

playing on 20 fps is easier than playing on 60 fps

[hot silo]

I’ve noticed on ps5 whenever I go near a ledge or out of bounds my fps drops a lot. Anyone else?

[azure oriole]

Me when I lie

[jolly kernel]

play Doom Eternal at 0 fps

[young mango]

From a technical standpoint they’re right, you get infinite midair dashes and enemies move slower, but with the caveat that quick switching is also stunted to a considerable degree

[peak sluice]

Maybe the ps5 is putting its resources towards generating the terrain again after you respawn on land

[azure oriole]

how do i make it less awkward to stay midair with meathook mid combo?

i struggle to stay midair until my meathook recharges

[slow sigil]

Make it quicker or shoot it ig

[azure oriole]

wdym by that

i cant go any faster with my combos and i fall off the ground as soon as i get my meathook back

idk how the other players do it to take barely any dmg

murican eagle for example

[slow sigil]

Watched 2 quick clips of him and he doesnt seem to stay in the air permanently

[azure oriole]

how does he not die tho

i struggle to avoid dmg

[cyan frigate]

learn enemy patterns and attacks, falters, utilize dash, chaingun shield. those are the bare basics imo for not taking damage

[azure oriole]

ik all that

i still cant keep my hp up

[cyan frigate]

not to be rude but if you did know and do all of that i dont think youd be asking for help on not taking damage. but, now youre saying you cant keep your hp up. so is it you having trouble regaining health?

[acoustic lark]

What about enemy prioritization?

[sand gate]

Why is this game look so good

[cyan frigate]

if thats the case theres plenty of ways to keep your health/armor up and id be more than happy to tell you some. and are there certain enemies/arenas that you take the most damage from? i can try giving specific tips on different enemies depending on which damage you most

[acoustic lark]

You can thank the id software engine god "Billy Khan" for that
And of course all the other dev's that filled the levels with life and details

[young mango]

I’ve actually messed around with speedrun tech exploring all of Urdak and wow it’s so fleshed out for something you don’t pay very much attention to

[slow sigil]

Ngl i have genuinly no idea how you even properly make an engine
Like, you make a thing that allows your hardware to basically do the games? Like what, how do you even keep track of everything and have it make sense

[azure oriole]

keeping my armor

[azure oriole]

ik what to prioritze

[azure oriole]

mancubi, mostly projectile spammers are annoying asf, sometimes wave attacks going midair

[acoustic lark]

No offense... if you would "know all this" you wouldnt have problems.

You clearly have room for improvements to be made

[azure oriole]

can u explain what should i prioritze

[young mango]

Which enemies are the biggest threats

[azure oriole]

i dont wanna sound egoistical but i dont think i struggle with enemy priority

[azure oriole]

yeah ik which are

[young mango]

If you’re in a room with an archvile, a whiplash and a baron, and a marauder, what order do you kill them in

[azure oriole]

whiplash, archvile, baron, marauder

[young mango]

Decent enough I suppose

Marauder is often saved for last because he’s easier individually but it’s also a good idea to eliminate him quickly, so it’s often a subjective choice

[azure oriole]

i completed every ml on UN except for ws idk if that helps

[young mango]

Yea world spear kicked my ass about half a year ago

I spent a week straight grinding it until I got the win

[azure oriole]

its 10x harder for me cuz i dont have ice bomb/hammer

[young mango]

You’re limiting yourself?

[azure oriole]

controller is

[young mango]

Hammer isn’t overly essential but I’d definitely recommend you rebind icebomb

[azure oriole]

cant

i cant unbind my weapons im too used to them, i could unbind ww and fully learn bind swapping but its torture to learn

[young mango]

You have space for all 7 weapons on a controller?

[azure oriole]

only missing bfg/chaingun/plasma

[sacred dirge]

Wheel swaps pretty simple but I've seen people have issues with it

[peak sluice]

Is it just me or is super gore nest much easier than doom hunter base and cultist base

[strange gale]

crazy bro

[azure oriole]

I can’t start eternal on my pc
What can I do to fix it?

[azure oriole]

im talking about bind swapping

[cyan frigate]

in terms of keeping armor up as much as possible id recommend learning meathook into precision bolt tech. meathook onto a fodder to set them on fire, then swap to pb and kill them with it thats free armor for only 6 bullets and its pretty easy to do in combat once you practice enough. also, if you use the equipment fiend rune, on top of your flame belch effecting it your meathook flame helps the cooldown too. so the ssg into pb is even more useful with equipment fiend. lastly, if youre full on armor, and have a flame belch ready you can just flame all the enemies around you to create an armor pool on the ground that youll just absorb as you take damage

[azure oriole]

yes because u get better gear, the early 3 lvls are difficult cuz of the lack of gear

[azure oriole]

i alrdy do all that in combat

the problem is i take way too much dmg

[peak sluice]

Ok but shouldn’t the difficulty rack up also as you progress

[cyan frigate]

again not to sound rude but if youre already doing all the tips we’re giving you i dont know how youre having trouble

[azure oriole]

not really, youll face more enemies but its still easier than cultist base

[azure oriole]

idk i always spam hook pb and flame belch

i just suck at dodging projectiles

[cyan frigate]

then if youre taking too much damage, like i said before utilize dash, falters, and chaingun shield.

[azure oriole]

but i alrdy do

[cyan frigate]

honestly, the easiest and most bare bones tip i can give is to move in circles around the arena. so the projectiles have a harder time catching up with you

[azure oriole]

dont they predict ur direction

[cyan frigate]

man im really not trying to sound mean but clearly not good enough 😭

[azure oriole]

ill show gameplay tmr

[cyan frigate]

im not saying i dont believe you. im saying yeah you might be doing these things, but not good enough or frequent enough

[azure oriole]

yeah ik well tmr ill send a clip and see

what im doing wrong

[sacred dirge]

Ya I know. Some find bind swapping alot easier for them

[azure oriole]

on controller?

[cyan frigate]

ya know what ill take you up on that offer maybe we can see something and give proper direct advice

[sacred dirge]

So I've been told. I'm just fine with wheel

[azure oriole]

wow gotta be insane to learn that

[azure oriole]

sure

[cyan frigate]

because us giving advice and you constantly saying youre already doing all of that is not working 😅

[sacred dirge]

Some of the fastest swappers i know use wheel swaps. I'm generally alot slower than them though

[jaunty vapor]

Did you try suggesting winning? Cause they're not doing that

(I'm just joking I'm not trying to be mean)

[cyan frigate]

again not trying to be rude lmao i just wanna help you man 😭🤣

[azure oriole]

yeah no worries

[cyan frigate]

i shouldve. 😮 just win loser!!!

[jaunty vapor]

From what I can see there's not much other advice. It could be a positioning thing, or just a general "not doing stuff fast/well enough" thing, but without concrete evidence hard to tell at this point.

[cyan frigate]

yee we’ll just have to wait and see the gameplay im curious. i genuinely hope we can help them because us gamers stand united 👍😎

[jaunty vapor]

Although you were asking how some people stay so high up in the air constantly, usually what you'll see is players take a boost pad if one's available, do "something", swap to meathook, hook -> jump -> wait a split second -> jump -> wait a split second -> dash -> dash, and by THAT point meathook will come back off cooldown so you can do another meathook -> jump -> jump

If you throw in Ballista boosts (especially after the first jump after a meathook, though easier to do with binds), you can usually forgo 1 Dash, so that can let you stay in the air for about 3ish Meathook cooldowns.

Though using Ballista for that specifically isn't usually that important. Using it off boostpads, sure, but after that it's usually superfluous aside from maybe the harder modded content.

[azure oriole]

i see so i just need to learn this pattern

kinda awkward mid combo tho

but ill try practicing

[jaunty vapor]

Well usually the reason you'll see someone do Ballista boost after a boost pad, or even meathook jumps + dashes, is to set up a Dblade while in the air so the person doesn't get swarmed on the ground.

So you don't necessarily need to do "other stuff" while just staying in the air at that point.

[azure oriole]

oh dblades i forgot, thats mostly when i die cuz i dont gain enough momentum before using it

[jaunty vapor]

That may be something to learn then since Dblade is just ridiculously good.

Obviously bunny hopping is useful with Dblade, but there's plenty of otherways to use Dblade "safely"

[azure oriole]

i need to learn how to animation cancel dblade after a ballista shot, forgot the name of the tech

[cyan frigate]

should we say screw it and tell them about duodblade 😶

[azure oriole]

wats that

[cyan frigate]

i dont want to overwhelm them but if they wanna learn dblade stuff i wanna give them a huge advantage

[cyan frigate]

i can send you a vid on it that explains it 👍 in dms

[azure oriole]

sure

[cyan frigate]

sent 👍

[peak sluice]

What is the hardest armor to get either than the ones that require ultra nightmare difficulty to be activated

[cyan frigate]

probably the 25th anniversary slayer skin. especially now since the slayersclub website (from what i remember) barely gets updates and is pretty broken

thank goodness i got it like right before the entire website broke completely

[peak sluice]

Well I mean ones you can get right know in the game

[cyan frigate]

oh hmmm. other than the un ones im not too sure to be honest. probably the battlemode exclusive slayer skins

[peak sluice]

K

[cyan frigate]

you’re welcome? 😅🤣

got k’d 😭 feelsbadman

anyway, whats everyones favorite sound in eternal? could be a certain gk sound, ssg blast, etc.

[peak sluice]

I’m like the 2016 doom skin

[young mango]

@jaunty vapor do you have any patches you like in particular aside from 1.0? Also what is the furthest patch slope boosting got removed on, or was that a day one thing?

[sand gate]

is doom 6 coming soon

[young mango]

GRAHH!!!

[jaunty vapor]

It was patched out immediately.

Typically, the noteworthy patches are 1.0 for obvious reasons
1.1 for "Restricted Speedruns" (basically just removed IDKFA and Slope Boosting but added consistent wall grabs and blood punches.... er, more consistent blood punches)
3.0 for TAG1
5.0 for TAG2

and then obv current patch just cause it's mostly smooth for playing everything

maybe it was 3.1 for TAG1? I forget, been awhile.

[young mango]

Personally aside from those two I really liked patch 6.0, playing the Taras Nabad ML on launch was the most amazing doom experience I had ever had

And what update did they add prestige in?

[jaunty vapor]

Unsure. I wanna say 1.1

[young mango]

Also I would like some tips on how to improve, I’m good but unreclaimed earth takes me ages to beat

[jaunty vapor]

I'll be honest I haven't done that level in awhile... Best I can tell you is try not to tunnel vision on killing enemies, try to focus on restacking more. Lotta people will oversell the idea that "kill stuff fast = safe" but especially with the amount of Maykr drones, keeping alive is usually easier/safer.

[young mango]

Alright

Good idea

So basically have a more defensive playing style?

I wouldn’t exactly call myself a bad player though, I did manage to beat it on nightmare with all the secret encounters beaten it’s just there was a lot of trial and error, doesn’t help I played it all blind

[azure oriole]

quick question guys, how do we unlock the cultist slayer skin?

[frigid cypress]

Does anyone know why the slayer gates exist in lore? What is their purpose?

[frigid cypress]

DLC. Also use google

[young mango]

It’s from the thanksgibbing event, most likely to be recycled for free in October/November

[azure oriole]

ok thanks guys

[young mango]

You might want to ask m0nologue

[frigid cypress]

How do I do that?

[young mango]

Not telling you

Nah just kidding, ping him

[frigid cypress]

@azure oriole Does anyone know why the slayer gates exist in lore? What is their purpose?

Also if there is a possible lore explanation to explain when/how Horde Mode would happen in the story. (Battlemode too maybe but that one I doubt.)

[peak sluice]

The slayer gates are for the unmaker a weapon

[frigid cypress]

Yeah but why were they there. Why are there slayer gates on earth, phobos, everywhere. Did they just show up one day?

[peak sluice]

They are probably ment to be a fun challenge to unlock a fun weapon idk if their is any lore to them check the wiki if you want to learn more

[frigid cypress]

I did, but that's why i'm asking here.

[azure oriole]

Pretty sure there's no ingame explanation so your guess is as good as anyone's

[frigid cypress]

lol

[hot silo]

Just bought the DLCs, I think it was worth it, haven’t finished main campaign but I’m loving it. Only $16 for them. And the game was free with ps plus so. Was it a deal or not?

[light pasture]

I js realized I've never seen a broken collectors doom slayer helmet

[rain beacon]

Yea 16$ is worth it for both there usually 20$ each I think. I bought ancient gods part 1 too if thats what your talking about

[azure oriole]

Slayer Gates aren't canon.

[mossy mesa]

Hey what's the best method to kill a spirit baron

[azure oriole]

I don't think there is one, though some fans like to theorize it's the Slayer dreaming after TAG2.

[sacred dirge]

@azure oriole how old are the slayer testaments?

[hot silo]

Nice, thanks for info

[formal scaffold]

marauders are actually really easy if you master ssg ballista combo

i dont know how to do any other combo

[azure oriole]

They were written shortly after the Slayer was incapacitated, so probably around the middle of the Third Age of Hell, before Doom 3.
Fun fact: AFAIK Hugo Martin implied Davoth is the speaker of the Slayer's Testaments. I personally didn't care for this and preferred the idea that it was the Aranea Imperatrix that wrote and spoke them.

[formal scaffold]

wait is doom 3 canonn

[azure oriole]

The Testaments have been around for at least an eon by the time 2016 happens. 2016's at the very end of the Fourth Age, and the Ages are implied to be roughly an eon old or so.

[azure oriole]

Yes, albeit in an alternate universe. Its UAC and Mars aren't 2016's UAC and Mars, but it's the same Hell and the Slayer is a figure in its lore.

[formal scaffold]

oh ok

[azure oriole]

Doom's canon is a multiverse comprising three Earths, with Hell and Urdak connecting all of them.

[formal scaffold]

that makes a lot of sense actually

[turbid jetty]

I thought it was infinite earths

or do you just mean the series takes place on 3 different earths within the multiverse, classic, 3 and reboot

[lapis saddle]

That second one

[turbid jetty]

ahh

[lapis saddle]

I like to imagine that there’s only one Earth at a time and the different Earths are because so much time has passed that the universe has crunched and big banged all over again

[turbid jetty]

trying to find a timeline of all the canon doom lore is hard

the only ones I can find are from the fandom wiki, which anybody can edit

[red sail]

3 earths?

[lapis saddle]

Yeah Doom lore keeps timelines pretty vague

[turbid jetty]

cause we say doom 3 is a separate universe

[lapis saddle]

Doom 1-64 Earth, Doom 3 Earth, NuDoom Earth

[turbid jetty]

but what is actually stopping it from being a prequel aside from the different artstyle design?

and just saying that it's not a prequel

[hot silo]

Would y’all say if I like doom eternal, doom 2016 will be good too?

[lapis saddle]

There’s the fact that 2016 and 3 each give their UAC a specific history and the dates don’t line up so it can’t be the same UAC

[turbid jetty]

2016 is slower, but still fun

[lapis saddle]

2016 is pretty good

[turbid jetty]

I meant prequel to Doom 1

[lapis saddle]

Oh

[hot silo]

Wish it had next gen upgrade. I think that’s gonna make the comparison unfair for me lol

[turbid jetty]

I can't find a solid reason against doom 3 being a prequel to ultimate doom other than artstyle differences and just saying it's not a prequel

[lapis saddle]

There’s the fact that the murals in Doom 3 show Doom 1 Doomguy

Implying he already existed by that point

[turbid jetty]

ahh, that's a good one

[azure oriole]

A few reasons.

Doom 3 can't be consistent with 2016 because both UACs have a different approach to solving the Energy Crisis - HydroCon and Argent. Two timelines.

It can't be consistent with Doom 1993 because the UACs have different goals.

In Doom 1993 the UAC is doing contract work for the US military - they want the teleporters working. The UAC's just getting paid. In 3, the teleporters are a UAC venture because humanity seems mainly driven by corporations at that point.

And, as Molly said, Doom 3 makes reference to the OG Doomguy as the Martian Hero.

[turbid jetty]

hmmm, could the us military put in a contract to get their own teleporters after the UAC had started working on them?

[azure oriole]

The pinned messages in this channel include a 200 page, fact-checked and studied timeline of the Doom canon written by myself. It includes not just a timeline but a detailed explanation of everything to do with Hell, the UAC, Urdak, and the Argenta.

It will be the most trustworthy source on Doom lore until id themselves make something.

[azure oriole]

Yes. Three universes.

[turbid jetty]

mhm I see

[lapis saddle]

Do the universes necessarily exist at the same time or could it be some kind of Hawking universe reset situation?

[turbid jetty]

I'd imagine the former to be the case

but it could be the latter

could explain the "your world is gone" thing from Eternal a bit better

[azure oriole]

They definitely exist at the same time. Doomguy travels through multiple of them. He goes from his own, to Hell, to Doom 3's, to Hell, then to 2016's.
The Argenta themselves also made contact with Doom 3's Mars while existing on their own planet in 2016's.

That being said, they don't seem to be "synced" with each other.

[turbid jetty]

but like, when doomguy goes to hell we don't know how much time passes

[hot silo]

Might be my light read for this week lol. Question though, should I read this after completing doom eternal?

[azure oriole]

There's no evidence of time travel in Doom, only slowed time in Hell. From Doom 3's perspective, Doom 1993's Earth is probably a smoldering dead crater by now. They're, uh, delayed.

[turbid jetty]

what if he time he went to hell permenantly, the universe reset

[lapis saddle]

The whole eons thing makes more sense if the universe is ending and beginning again and Hell just isn’t tied to our universe’s time, but I’ll take your word for it

[azure oriole]

If you don't want spoilers I'd recommend playing the games first, yeah.

[light pasture]

What year is eternal

[azure oriole]

Well evidence suggests Doomguy even teleported from Doom 3's Mars straight to Argent D'Nur, which is in 2016's.

[light pasture]

2040s or 70s ?or is it 3000s?

[hot silo]

I see. Would you say all games are around the same lore wise? Like any games with more or less lore

[turbid jetty]

2163 I think

[azure oriole]

2163

[light pasture]

Ahh okay

[lapis saddle]

Early Doom is extremely light on lore

[turbid jetty]

definitely more lore from the newer games than the older games

[lapis saddle]

Doom 3 has more but still keeps things very simple. 2016 is where things start to get complicated

[light pasture]

Huh only what hundred years or so from now, how tf did we get that far that short js thinking hypothetical 💀

[azure oriole]

Doom 3, 2016, and Eternal have the most lore. 3's has the most written lore especially, though Eternal introduces the most to Doom's canon.
Doom 1-2-64 are very very light on lore; they weren't concerned with telling complex stories. The modern games retroactively tie every installment into each other.

[hot silo]

I can get the slayer collection for $30, includes doom I through III and 2016, what ya think?

[azure oriole]

Yeah get that.

[light pasture]

Cool nuntheless

[lapis saddle]

Excellent deal

[hot silo]

Gonna complete eternal first though. Since I’m already I think half way through

[lapis saddle]

Yeah the game stories are pretty standalone so you don’t need to play them in a particular order

[hot silo]

That’s nice

[turbid jetty]

I think the lore is loose enough that you can feasably make your own timeline of events, without breaking canon too much

I mean I also like to think that the reboot timeline is the same universe as wolfenstein's dark history timeline

[hot silo]

Question, if I miss a mission challenge, if I complete it, can I just back up the mission? Or I gotta complete it

[turbid jetty]

you can replay the missions

[hot silo]

Yeah I mean when I replay, can I just get out of the mission once I do it

[lapis saddle]

Doom 1 is my personal favorite, Doom 2 is kind of a scaled up Doom 1, 64 is similar to 1 and 2 but made for console and more focused on atmosphere, Doom 3 is kinda like Half Life with fancy (for the time) lighting and using darkness as a way to build tension, 2016 and Eternal are maximum action with Eternal expanding on 2016’s combat loop

[turbid jetty]

I'm not sure actually

I can't remember

[lapis saddle]

You can leave the mission and keep the secrets and challenges you got

[hot silo]

Thanks for the info

Can I speak about a challenge here? Or is that considered a spoiler

[lapis saddle]

You can use spoiler tags when in doubt

[split otter]

Hi i am new in the server

[hot silo]

|| is their an easy way to get glory kills on the pinkies? ||

[lapis saddle]

That one is kinda hard. Try flanking and chipping them down with the heavy cannon.

[hot silo]

I keep getting 2/3 lmao, it’s infuriating

[lapis saddle]

Just so you know, where you’re aiming decides which animation you get

[hot silo]

Oh it does?

[lapis saddle]

Yup

[hot silo]

What are the three spots I should aim for?

[lapis saddle]

Back, neck, head I think

[hot silo]

When u say back, the tail?

[lapis saddle]

Right

[hot silo]

I’ll try that

[lapis saddle]

I think pinkies only have 3 or 4 different gk animations. Fodder tend to have many and bigger demons have fewer but theirs are more elaborate

[hot silo]

I see

Ya think the ||machine gun||could be good for chipping damage for them?

[lapis saddle]

Yes

[sacred dirge]

All perfect ! Ya definitely makes more sense if it was her because it was the same time as her reign

[hot silo]

@lapis saddle does the frag and freezing grenade share the same cooldown? Or if I use one I can use the other right away

[lapis saddle]

They’re separate

[hot silo]

For some reason I’ve never used the freeze one cause I taught otherwise

[red sail]

too bad, i dont believe you

[hot silo]

@lapis saddle is their a good spot to complete the specific weapon objectives for the upgrades?

[lapis saddle]

IDK

[hot silo]

Fair

[random vault]

then dont ask?

[red sail]

dog its a joke

[regal lantern]

Alguien habla español ?

[lapis saddle]

Beat TAG 2 for the first time. I can’t believe I didn’t realize that you need to get close to Davoth to get him to swing on my previous playthrough

[tiny lion]

this is to easy, can anyone good at battlemode to verse me and my frien

[haughty parcel]

ideal audio settings for doom? 😈

[azure oriole]

101% master volume

250% music volume

[primal estuary]

in game volume should be kept at normal, music turned off

[azure oriole]

that is illegal

[haughty parcel]

what is this blasphemy

[primal estuary]

this is the part where it gets good

[haughty parcel]

purge the heretics

[azure oriole]

bro wouldnt survive without music