doom-eternal

[azure oriole]

Now I’m interested in how umbrella even killed those guys

Said higher demons tend to differ on how they do this. The Aranea Imperatrix, for example, seemed to prefer just mind-controlling every demon under her control, when she was alive. In Eternal, though, this isn't really the case.

[neat bronze]

Molly is writing Declaration of Independence

[azure oriole]

Is there any lore explanation for there being like a dozen spider masterminds across the games

[neat bronze]

Spider big brain

[azure oriole]

Yeah. OG Spiderdemons and 2016's Spider Masterminds are completely different, unrelated entities.

[azure oriole]

Cant be big brain if there isnt a big homie group

[lapis saddle]

Incidentally the Slayer, while not invincible, is obscenely resilient. The fact that he doesn’t die in minutes just going through Mars Core is a ridiculous feat in that regard given how the Eternal praetor suit has exposed skin. He should be getting acute radiation poisoning almost immediately but he isn’t affected at all, and he’s seemingly unhurt by the vacuum of space in the same way

[azure oriole]

Spiderdemons are Hell tacticians who command armies and spearhead invasions. The Spider Mastermind was the physical manifestation of the Aranea Imperatrix, Dark Lord of the Fourth Age, who used Olivia Pierce to attain physical form. She most likely intended to lead Eternal's army but was killed by the Slayer.

The Imperatrix may be related to Spiderdemons but it's just theory.

[azure oriole]

still punches like a bich

So there’s 3 types of demon spawn that decided big brainy spiders are a neat look lol

[neat bronze]

Hard way to say DoomGuy is strong af

[azure oriole]

#bring back 2016 melee

[azure oriole]

The Slayer's powers more involve his resilience than strength, yeah.

People misconstrue him to be able to just punch a hole through anything - but the powers moreso explain how he can withstand so much damage. It's that resilience and persistence that's kept him going so long.

[lapis saddle]

He’s also significantly stronger and faster than any unaugmented human but not to the same extreme

[azure oriole]

Being able to shrug off argent energy is a great feat on its own, considering the sheer energy output and heat of the stuff

[azure oriole]

Lots of spider monsters. Quick rundown:
-OG Spiderdemons, Hell tacticians.
-OG Arachnotrons, possibly baby Spiderdemons.
Both of the above are extinct as of Doom 64.
-Vagaries, organic spider demons that birth Doom 3 Mancubi, capable of psionic attacks.
From Doom 3.
-2016 Mastermind, the physical form of the Imperatrix.
-Eternal Arachnotrons, bio-engineered clones made from the Mastermind's organic matter.

Technically there's also Trites and Ticks, also from Doom 3.

[lapis saddle]

Let’s not talk about trites and ticks. They upset me as someone who really doesn’t like spiders

[azure oriole]

Literally just that monster from the thing

Hahaha yeah.

https://tenor.com/view/crawling-monster-crab-head-the-thing-gif-3493608

[neat bronze]

Whoaa what's the hell is that

[azure oriole]

Creature from The Thing

[lapis saddle]

A form the Thing takes in the movie of the same name

[neat bronze]

Does it got names

[lapis saddle]

No

[neat bronze]

I wanna name him james

[azure oriole]

is that the doom live action

[azure oriole]

I wish

[lapis saddle]

A core part of the movie premise is that they don’t know what it is

[azure oriole]

Nah, Doom live action wishes it could look that good.

New theory: Doom 2005 takes place in the doom multiverse

[neat bronze]

Doom is just way to terrifying to be a live action.Let just keep it that way

[azure oriole]

This is from The Thing, an excellent horror film about a team of researchers in the Antarctic who encounter an extraterrestrial life form... virus... thing that assimilates and mimics people.

[lyric lodge]

could make a nice horror movie-ish

[azure oriole]

It was the main inspiration, AFAIK, for Among Us. Except it's actually terrifying and not just a meme.

[neat bronze]

Horor Action

[lyric lodge]

sounds amazing ngl

[neat bronze]

DoomGuy pov:Action
Demons pov:Survival Horror

[azure oriole]

The doom movie opting for monsters with extra chromosomes instead of actual demons is still funny asf to me

[azure oriole]

doom 2016 is scary enough a movie would be cool but idk how audience would react to that

[azure oriole]

elites of the doom lore

also wasnt there a doom 3 live action movie?

[azure oriole]

Doom 2005 is basically Doom 3 the movie

yes, it was beutiful

[azure oriole]

Both Doom 2005 and Doom Annihilation fit this. Both are primarily inspired by Doom 3.

I found a dollar on the floor

ohh

[lapis saddle]

Any future Doom movie probably shouldn’t be about the Slayer. I think he’d be really hard to make work as a character in that medium. Maybe have him as a mysterious presence in the background while we focus on UAC grunts or whoever trying to not die

[azure oriole]

And both, unlike Doom 3, blow massive dick and balls.

yes

i saw the pinky demon scene it was cool

[neat bronze]

Doom:Demon Nightmares would be cool name

[lyric lodge]

maybe have him be talked about as some hero or smth but we dont actually see him as we're focused on some UAC grunts

[azure oriole]

the issue with this take is having to make the audience like another character just as much as the mascot of the game.

And the majority audience isnt always gonna be open to such diversity

they will go monke brain and say wheres the slayer

[lapis saddle]

The Slayer is neat and all but he’d be real boring as a movie protagonist because of how the medium fundamentally works

[azure oriole]

A Doom movie focusing as an adaptation of Doom fundamentally cannot work, because Doom's appeal is in its gameplay and putting yourself in Doomguy's shoes. The interactivity of tearing apart an Archdemon makes Doom.
A Doom movie that is faithful to modern Doom, at its best, would just be around the level of fun as a Let's Play of a Doom game.

^

Shame Doom never got and probably never will have a good movie because the premise rocks

[neat bronze]

What about the movie took place before Doom 2 took action like it was normal day on earth but suddenly there's demon everywhere

[azure oriole]

If you were to adapt Doom it'd have to be like the older games. Or like the first couple novel adaptations.

[azure oriole]

ye doom is better of a video game

So much you could do with a demon invasion of a creepy Sci-Fi base on Mars

[lapis saddle]

A movie about Doomguy as a semi-normal guy in Doom 1 could work

[neat bronze]

Doom VR when

[azure oriole]

The doom universe in my opinion isnt as unique to wanna make a movie abt when theres not an Emotional plot going to adapt with.

I mean u notice the Last of us focuses on world building through characters and emotions cause they offer depth. The world itself on paper wouldnt be interesting without the characters being affected by it

Yeah. The Slayer isn't super movie-compatible. But Doomguy can be.

[neat bronze]

Wait doomguy and slayer is different?

[azure oriole]

I guarantee I could write a pretty serviceable film synopsis for a Doom 1993 adaptation. But Doom Eternal? No

[azure oriole]

doom vfr

They’re the same person just at different point in the timeline

[neat bronze]

I only play doom 1 and 2

[azure oriole]

No, they're the same guy. I'm talking about Doom 1993 Doomguy VS the Slayer. They're the same dude but they're portrayed differently.

[neat bronze]

Ok sounds neat I'll check it

[azure oriole]

in terms of being a pretty amazing oscar winning movie i dont think so but a game just straight up Doom guy beating up CGI demons is pretty cool on its own.

[lapis saddle]

Doomguy is a blanket term for the main character. The Slayer is specifically after he becomes a demigod type deal

[azure oriole]

its pretty much doom 2016 but with vr

[neat bronze]

Which is stronger

[azure oriole]

It could be, but the ideal film is one that has an emotional core and a well-written story one can relate to.

Not to mention if they were to make shots of the beautiful environments like Eternal’s gameplay does its great

Nobody's clamoring to think too hard about the Transformers films.

[azure oriole]

True but most action movies dont always care abt the emotions of a character. Sometimes its fine to just have an hour of a guy beating up the baddest bad guys he gets into

Any doom movie is going to be action schlock no one’s expecting more from it

It just needs to be good action schlock

[lapis saddle]

For what a workable Doom movie might look like, watch the cinematic trailer for “Jupiter Hell”
Nails the vibe

[azure oriole]

Theres always some conflict in a movie but they can have a duality of both

[neat bronze]

Doom movie sequel where the camera is focused on the demon pov where the demon tried to hide frok the doomguy

M

[azure oriole]

Counterpoint: John Wick is an excellent action film and its staying power can be attributed largely to its core concept and the emotional component of John Wick as a character. Action films can have emotional plot points and thematic depth, and IMO usually the best ones do.

[azure oriole]

ye but theres also beautiful shots and stunts and everything else than just a Story

There's more to flesh out Doomguy than there is the Slayer, a character who fundamentally is silent and can only be fleshed out through lore.

I mean u see those beautiful scenes its amazing

Sure, but the story justifies those things and enhances them.

[lapis saddle]

A good Doom movie would really need to feel like an 80s action/horror movie in terms of tone and aesthetic since that what the games feel like at their best

[azure oriole]

well no the story allows those scenes to exist*

Same as Eternal has a story to get doom guy to where he should be.

I don't give a shit about a guy killing other guys because he's badass. But tell me it's because his dog died and he has nothing holding him back now? See, now I'm invested in this, not just as a slideshow of cool action scenes but as a narrative.

if any of you have seen the doom 2016 trailer it would be cool if we got something like that in the form of a movie

[azure oriole]

but u cant deny the reason people come back to watch all 4 of these movies is cause they also wanna see the craziest shit John has done

Well sure, but what got them to give a shit about him to begin with?

[azure oriole]

Cause a movie doesnt always need the strongests of plots to be good

[lapis saddle]

I think the ideal Doom movie would take the general plot of the original game and flesh it out with lore and such from later games and probably give Doomguy more of an actual character. Maybe go for a tone like Evil Dead meets Die Hard and ideally rely as much on practical effects as possible since that’s what good movies do.

[azure oriole]

It doesn't, but it still needs a plot you can give a shit about.

And John Wick got to where it did because its plot was good. It supplemented and enhanced the action.

[azure oriole]

true but u realize the whole John loses everything isnt a new idea

we seen this before what makes it different is every action he takes with that motivation

Cool plots don't have to be new or unique. The idea isn't unique. The execution, though, is.

[lapis saddle]

Just about every plot hook used today goes back to the Bronze Age. Seriously

[azure oriole]

Im saying him being baddass is the huge part of the series to go watch. Im not saying the story isnt needed but like Doom guy its not at all unique and what carries is the world building around it

John has a motivation some would even consider quite ridiculous and everyone around him is even equally as self aware.

Then theres this whole word building of an underworld of assasins and all this crazyness that gets John to do all these things like crazy Club fight scenes or The continental Hotel

Here's what I'm saying - games can get away with mid-as-fuck plots if the gameplay's awesome. Movies can't, because there is no gameplay. Movies inherently have to focus more on the narrative because that's the point of the movie. I've seen plenty of movies with awesome action that I'd still regard as shit movies because the narratives were shit and didn't result in a good story.

Doom can get away with the plot seeming like nonsense unless you read a novel's worth of lore. A Doom movie cannot.

i mean he ends up in Paris in wick 4 and all this world building is beautiful even with its simple plot.

So counterarguement how is this any different with why Doom can’t be a movie too just like this

John wick feels like a movie where the world building unfolds in front of u

same as Doom Eternal’s environments do

[lapis saddle]

For motivation, you could literally just go with “I don’t want to die on this Mars base” and go from there. Doomguy doesn’t have to start out as a stone cold badass; he can start as a stressed marine just trying to survive who becomes increasingly battle hardened and badass as the movie progresses

[neat bronze]

A movie adaption about a game can end up Really Well or end up Really Bad

[azure oriole]

I'm saying Doom has to be a movie like John Wick if it were to exist - a plot with an interesting setup, a relatable protagonist, and a genuinely neat narrative to tie together its action scenes.

[azure oriole]

Personally, if you want my opinion, I'd portray Doomguy as I portrayed him in the short story I wrote - a desperate man who will survive at all costs so he can return to see his family.

He's sarcastic, battle-hardened, and a little bit of a meathead, but he's virtuous and cannot stand to see the slaughter in front of him.

[neat bronze]

Average Action movie protagonist I'd say

[lapis saddle]

I do think you really need him to at least initially be freaking out a little bit because getting attacked by demons and zombified coworkers is harrowing. I don’t see someone who hasn’t dealt with any of that before not being at least a little bit freaked out.

[azure oriole]

Yeah I'd agree.

[lyric lodge]

What if when the movie starts off, he finds his friends dead (turned into blaster soldier) and that's his motivation for the rest of the movie to avenge his friends? But then when he goes back to earth in the second movie. We see his rabbit and his family slaughtered and that's his motive for the second movie?

[neat bronze]

Change it to his son

[lyric lodge]

Would be weird as hell if he didn't flinch

[azure oriole]

Some examples, which I'll paste from my own story:

He had been stationed in the Middle East. Conflicts needed resolving, except there was never a resolution. The Marine knew better. He was happy to shoot terrorists, happy to see some action... at first. But, in time, he’d begun to realize that war was war, and war meant more than just dead bad guys. It meant dead children, dead mothers, dead fathers... and sometimes, the “terrorists” just ended up being normal people who’d simply looked a bit different from him. He was naïve when he’d first enlisted. By the end of it, he’d grown sick of it all. And so when that airheaded sicko Aaronsfield had ordered them to fire on a bunch of scared, hungry civilians he’d deemed “terrorists” for brandishing a gun, he had lost it.

He had always struggled with anger issues, after all. Having grown up with an abusive father and a narcissistic mother, the Marine was all but accustomed to people like Aaronsfield. Just like the time he’d assaulted his father as a teenager and sent him to a hospital, there Aaronsfield fell to the sand, coughing up blood and teeth, his larynx collapsed by the Marine’s fist.

And:

The UAC’s bases on Phobos and Deimos comprised, roughly, about 50,000 personnel. By the Marine’s estimations, around 49,999 of those personnel were dead, or at least it sure felt that way. In some twisted form of thinking, the Marine’s mind went from despair to relief whenever he saw a corpse of a fellow Marine - corpses meant ammunition. He tried not to think about the horror of the situation. He was sure he would never see his family again.
Sharon, he thought. I wish you were here. You’ve always been stronger than I am.

And the one thing a doom movie wont have is absolute swearing. Its ok to see gore but God doesnt like your dirty words

Amen 🙏

[lyric lodge]

Well didn't doom guy assault his commander when he requested him to shoot unharmed civilians? Or is this just some other idea just inspired by doom

[slow sigil]

if there was a doom movie it'll do best animated

gore simply looks better drawn

[lyric lodge]

Animated movies are godly when done well

[azure oriole]

The stuff I'm pasting is from a short story I wrote, which adapts E3M8 from Doom 1993 into a short story, like a book.

[lyric lodge]

Hmm nice

[lapis saddle]

I’d play the seeing his dead friends as horror rather than motivation. For best results make them zombies so he has to kill his friends himself for maximum trauma

[azure oriole]

personally wouldnt want an animated doom movie just cause id actually just wanna feel like i wanna see some demons in even further amazing cgi

[lyric lodge]

Precisely what I thought of tbh

[lyric lodge]

Sometimes cgi can look like shit

[azure oriole]

true but with Doom i feel its a natural evolution to go from Sprites to absolute realism

[slow sigil]

sometimes literally everything can look shit

[azure oriole]

Oh, wait, here's another passage, which I'll paste as an image since it's long.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/930146039745376259/1098255367865114644/image.png?width=1440&height=520

[lyric lodge]

Needa write out my shitty ideas one day

[lapis saddle]

Movie CGI usually looks like shit. I’d much rather see practical effects tbh

[azure oriole]

W

sometimes i watch transformers 1 and go wtf do these robots look like absolute shit but i can still watch it

my boy soundwave didnt deserve the abuse

Bumblebee Cybertron scenes make me want to fall in love again

[lyric lodge]

Would love to see how they handle demons like that

[azure oriole]

I wouldnt be surprised if half the budget was on those scenes

[lyric lodge]

Imagine if they possibly use the old clay models for reference

[neat bronze]

Like Shaun the sheep?

Baaa

[lapis saddle]

Stop motion makes some great monsters with the right animator. See also: the Thing used that kind of stuff for its monsters that still look scary now

[alpine hazel]

writing is fun!! if you're planning on writing fanfiction, ao3 (archive of our own) is the best place to put it

[lyric lodge]

Hmm sounds nice

[azure oriole]

no i was just asking coz i thought i couldnt

[rare trench]

Hey guys
I'm doing a new 100% save and I'm trying to do the slayer gate on exultia

the key is not where it's supposed to be so I thought I already picked it up but when I approach the gate I can't unlock it

any idea what could be going on?

[random vault]

try reloading your game maybe something went wrong

[rare trench]

I tried to go back in the menu, even turned off cheats, went to continue game and I'm now back in the fortress

[azure oriole]

You can’t do slayer gates while cheat codes are active

And if you have trouble beating eternals levels cheat codes aren’t the way to go my guy

[north oxide]

you can't even use them unless you're replaying levels

[stiff plume]

Guys, I'm in The Dark Lord and I can't defeat him

[north oxide]

He's basically a Marauder.

Just a lot beefier. Same strategy applies though.

[slow sigil]

shoot him when he does his green eye attack (it's different then his 2 other melee attacks) and dash when he attacks

hammer him when he opens up

[azure oriole]

literally me fr

this health grab is annoying as shit

i am very use to tanking hits without penalty

especially in doom

[young mango]

Tanking hits without penalty isn’t really a thing

[tropic willow]

Is the funny scenes with a zombie (idk who they're called) playing with cyberdemon toys a kid?

[frank ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/732453017714163812/1098342675469574164/image.png I have not played in a year and 2 days

[azure oriole]

Is it possible to play ripatorium more than once or can you only do it once in between missions

[jolly kernel]

you can do it as much as you want

I actually really have a lot of fun fighting Marauders. they pose a threat that most of the enemies in this game don't have

[azure oriole]

when i say penalty i mean that the enemy get a substantial boost of some sort

[jolly kernel]

they are fast, can deal a lot of damage and you can't just shoot them until they die like other enemies

[azure oriole]

most green flash enamies

maybe not armor barons or bmaykrs

[vagrant estuary]

Is there artwork depicting the heavy cannon with a drum magazine?

[azure oriole]

but most green flashes that i can think of are invulnerable until the flash

[azure oriole]

consept art?

yes

i can dm it if you want

or send you the link here

[young mango]

This is at least your third time within a 24 hour time period mentioning this

[azure oriole]

has he gotten an answer the other 2 times?

[north oxide]

nope

yesterday when we were talking about weapon designs he just kept saying "imagine the heavy cannon with a drum magazine"

[azure oriole]

he might just like the idea

Hey just a quick question is there artwork depicting the heavy cannon with a drum magazine?

no

and i defiantly don't have art with said decription

is there artwork depicting heavy canon with drum magazine

i really want it

i hate you

is that a viking?

[azure oriole]

Tbh i wish the heavycannon just had a huge box mag instead of being like a weird Bulpup

[azure oriole]

its doom hunter laughing

2016 the cannon was a big box magazine and prob the only redeeming part of it for me

[azure oriole]

there is art of that as well

The weapon itself is huge in first person compared to how it looks outside

[rain plume]

How can me and my friend play together in doom enteral?

[primal estuary]

campaign? you can't

[rain plume]

No just like in battlemode

[azure oriole]

aare use in the same party

[jolly kernel]

Doom Hunters are better called Quest Hinderers because that's what they are

seriously though, the Doom Hunter is just as easy to kill as any other heavy demon in the game. freeze him, blood punch his sled, shoot at him with the ssg then use lock-on rockets and see him go boom

[azure oriole]

If it's that easy then it's not much of a hindrance

[mental dust]

Yo a friend of mine needs help with a trophy for ps5 weapons expert. HMU

[azure oriole]

i can help with that

[vagrant estuary]

Doom hunter is literally the easiest boss in the game

[hoary hound]

kinda funny how they down greated it, went from cool santa boss to a normal demon that you can encounter

[jolly kernel]

santa boss lmao

[vagrant estuary]

Khan makyr is also easy too

[dire solstice]

hey im new to doom on pc

[hoary hound]

right server bud

[jolly kernel]

I don't think the first Marauder can be considered a boss

he doesn't even has a health bar

[dire solstice]

i got it through xbox gamepass but the performance is weird. Is that normal?

[hoary hound]

cool intro tho

[dire solstice]

the first level hell on earth was glitching out and was at 60 fps on a pc with a 3060 ti

[hoary hound]

were you going tryhard?

[toxic marlin]

what is yall's opinion on the numskull figures

[tough reef]

@tacit tapir I have several questions regarding Doom Eternal, specifically the prospect of official mod support. Are there any plans to release any sort of mod tools,level editors, etc. for Doom Eternal at any point in the foreseeable future?

[azure oriole]

You know you can't just ping the man like that right

[tough reef]

No I didn't

Why not?

[young mango]

The answer is basically no

[tough reef]

Ok

Is there like, a legal reason they can't answer?

[young mango]

No fucking way

[north oxide]

you have to understand these people are very busy

[tough reef]

Ok, I just wasn't sure how much this had been asked

[young mango]

You can’t just talk directly to the developer anytime you have a question that’s nuts

[tough reef]

I was just shootin a shot and seein what would happen

Wasn't trying to annoy anyone

[young mango]

It’s not annoying just the absurdity that you tried is astounding

[tough reef]

Ok?

[north oxide]

for future reference, it's generally frowned upon to directly ping any staff member. you didn't know. it's fine. but now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

[lapis saddle]

The other half is extreme violence

[azure oriole]

I’m sure that ping was a major annoyance to hugoot

[acoustic lark]

Please dont ping id software staff directly

[eager hemlock]

oh

your a moderator

cool

[midnight sparrow]

hate to break it to you but this games not getting any more major additions like mod support EVER

[tough reef]

Cri

[tough reef]

Noted

[sacred dirge]

Have you tried co op yet

[midnight sparrow]

There's a co-op mod right? I never tried it none of my friends have PC's that can run DOOM Eternal

[sacred dirge]

Ya there's a solid co op now and invasion

[azure oriole]

wich season is all the black and white stuff from?

[vague ore]

Can there be a game mode where you have all of the weapons and upgrades and stuff and your placed in a big arena and just endless waves of enemies that just get harder and harder until you die. I think that would be a pretty cool way just to learn and get better at the game.

[azure oriole]

Wow that sounds like horde mode if it was good

[sacred dirge]

I'm a fan of endless horde also

Just see what round you get to

[vague ore]

exactly

[north oxide]

I'm always for endless modes in games

[merry gazelle]

Should look up the recent Infinite Enemies mod

[vague ore]

I'm too stupid to make mods do there thing so them adding it is the best thing

[azure oriole]

fr

fuck doom

im bouta get into trains

[turbid jetty]

watch Thomas the Tank Engine then

[north oxide]

Resident Evil 0 has a train, but Resident Evil 0 is ass.

[azure oriole]

True

Only good thing about RE0 is the save room music

[coral ferry]

Hi

[rapid stone]

Hi

[coral ferry]

👋

[formal scaffold]

the spokesperson just said lemmy is god

[young mango]

Yes

[formal scaffold]

the koopaling

[rapid stone]

Guys anyone having this strange audio issue with doom eternal on pc with Bluetooth headphones I use a sennheiser 350bt and audio is perfect with doom 2016 but with doom eternal it is really bad audio quality like as if the mic turned on anyone have a fix for that

[formal scaffold]

or

[young mango]

The musical artist

[formal scaffold]

ohhh

[young mango]

Who funnily enough is also what the koopaling is named after

[formal scaffold]

lemmy kilmister or whatever his last name is

[rapid stone]

Im guessing no one knows what im going on about

[north oxide]

yeah that's a pretty specific problem.

[north oxide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ymPeblx1V4

[rapid stone]

Pretty much i ran an internet search and i found like 1 reddit post on it from when doom eternal just released

[north oxide]

yeah dude I've never had the issue. Sorry. Hope you get it sorted out.

[rapid stone]

Thank you

[merry gazelle]

This game is going to give me carpal tunnel

[azure forum]

I've had that issue with wireless headphones. Go to to your sound settings, and see if it is selecting Stereo or there's another codec i think for calls and such. That helped in my case. I just play with wired headphones for that reason.

[rapid stone]

Ok thanks a lot man

[formal scaffold]

i finally beat doom eternal on nightmare mode for the first time

a month after i beat the game for the first time

[sacred dirge]

[tough reef]

True. Even RE6 is better than Zero.

[north oxide]

and that's saying something

[tough reef]

RE6 at least has fun combat at its base and has Mercenaries to enjoy. RE0 doesn't even have that.

[raven geyser]

do you guys have

ultra nightmare tips

[azure oriole]

Try not to die

[lapis saddle]

Don’t play Ultra Nightmare

[azure oriole]

TRUE

[raven geyser]

i want that gold skin

[lapis saddle]

Well I gave you my advice. Doesn’t mean you have to take it

[azure oriole]

Phobos better

[azure oriole]

nah, new one is ass

[turbid jetty]

So watch the old ones then

I never specified which

[azure oriole]

old one makes me scream uncontrollably

I'd have to blindfold myself

[rapid stone]

Fixed it

I had to change default microphone device to my laptop so that it wouldnt pick up the headphone

[wild latch]

Is it safe to say that mars core master level nightmare mode is difficult?

[azure oriole]

yes

the beginning is very claustrophobic i hate it

[forest geyser]

GUYS I COMPLETED HORDE ON NIGHTMARE!

HELL YEAH, BABY!

[rapid stone]

W

[blissful moth]

Hi. Doom Eternal get a physical copy of the game for USA?

At least on Argentina never arrived a USA copy. Just one than have the box on Arabic iirc

[azure oriole]

panic attack?, just attack people normally

[dull herald]

i love panic attacks 😁

[hoary hound]

W

[brave shale]

Hello everyone, recently bought played, loved doom eternal. Is the game done getting updates or its getting more down the road

[azure oriole]

its getting uptades but no meaningfull

just like new seasons and stufff

[dull herald]

those arent updates

well not really anyways

[azure oriole]

yuh huh

[dull herald]

as far as updates go the game is pretty dead and its not looking like we're gonna get anymore for now 🤭

the only chance i see an update or a few updates happening is AFTER id releases their next title

if not and they just end up pulling the plug- thats fine too

[azure oriole]

no more doom games, just dlcs for regular doom

i really wish that invasion thing was added

unless i was and i just cant find anything about it

[dull herald]

i don't!! if you've played battlemode- you've played invasion mode 🤭

[slow sigil]

Balance would be wack and it would be dead on release

[dull herald]

it would just be battle mode with a op slayer 🤭

[azure oriole]

buff the shit out of the demons

[dull herald]

would that really stop a slayer from just using over-advanced tech and killing them in seconds

[slow sigil]

Yes but someone new will hit a brick wall

[azure oriole]

bruh i just want the campaign to be as hard as possible

and i cant mod so yk

[dull herald]

well ummmmm there's master levels i suppose 🤭

[azure oriole]

done

[slow sigil]

Invasion will barely help you then

Cause it wont happen often at all

[azure oriole]

immora master level would be good

dought we will see it

but it will really feel like in invasion of hell

[slow sigil]

Lol, lmao

[dull herald]

wym.... immora is already so hard bro..

[azure oriole]

not really

[dull herald]

it is

[azure oriole]

you can walk past to much of the enamies

immora is hard wym

[dull herald]

yeah see

[azure oriole]

what about the arenas

you guys really think?

[azure oriole]

i said most

[dull herald]

the doom hunter with demonic troopers is so difficult 😢😢

[azure oriole]

you fr💀

[dull herald]

WHATS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN 😭😭

[azure oriole]

demonic troopers

they are glorified purple goo

Immora should've had Archviles

but the purple goo is harder

[dull herald]

i feel like archviles died basically as soon as the armored baron was introduced

literally no clue why hes the best demon 🙄🙄

[azure oriole]

armored baron are nothing compared to arch viles

[dull herald]

true

[azure oriole]

you dont need to priorities armored barons like you do arch viles

[dull herald]

eggawotts saul goodman archvile mod made me love archviles even more, and at the same time made me realize that id did not know how to utilize their entire enemy roster

[azure oriole]

imorra but the doom slayer already wiped out most the demon races

its waves apon waves of stone imps and lost souls

long time since i touched this game

lost all my cosmetics sad

[midnight sparrow]

The campaign and TAG1 did a good job of utilizing enemies. TAG2 just feels like enemy spam (and if you played day 1 TAG2 was literally just fodder spam)

[dull herald]

the master levels did it 20x better than the dlcs did

like the pinky ambush in the beginning of mars core, thats literally 10/10 pinky usage (very classic doom-y)

[sour jungle]

Hello

[dull herald]

and the campaign feels a little bit lackluster in my opinion, at least until the end (final sin, urdak, etc.)

[lyric lodge]

well i'd say it might be a bit understandable since you would have lesser weapons and the upgrade stuff so they keep it a bit low

specially when the main campaign is the first thing to play

[sour olive]

i beat the game woo

[lyric lodge]

ayyyyyyyyy

[midnight sparrow]

As expected. If something’s gonna be called a “Master” level it needs to deliver and in Dooms case that’s enemy utilization

[dull herald]

true

makes me wish they didn't limit themselves to 1 year for the dlcs

who knows what they could've done with, say, and extra year

[lyric lodge]

time constraints ruined them

[dull herald]

yeah thats a lot (of time to work on the dlcs) but i recall hugo talking about a mech fight with dragons and shit

[lyric lodge]

we lost

[slow sigil]

davoth turning into a dragon would be too cheesy
being inside a mech would be like the revenant section: too annoying

[dull herald]

suppose so- but its more compared to what we got

[azure oriole]

Davoth turning into a dragon would've been dumb.

I agree Davoth's fight could've been better, but I prefer what we have over what they were originally gonna do.

[dull herald]

twas probably hugo's boomer mind coming up with that 🤭

[slow sigil]

tbf i'd rather have it bee cheesy then garbage

[azure oriole]

My problem is the dragon thing doesn't really fit Davoth's character.

Him turning into a big monster betrays the "he's you, in their world" thing even more than having him in a Warhammer mech.

[slow sigil]

smh just make doomguy change into a dragon aswell

[lyric lodge]

which is why some think it wouldve been awesome for us to fight davoth without his suit

[azure oriole]

Problem with that is that it would've been like fighting a Possessed

[slow sigil]

i mean gameplay wise nothing would change

[lyric lodge]

possibly yeah its kinda confusing to get some gameplay in that

[dull herald]

i think its better when its a larger character for a bossfight

v2 was the weakest boss in ultrakill because of his size sooo

i bet it would be worse in doom's case

[lyric lodge]

what if davoth summoned lots of demons like samur too

[slow sigil]

davoth himself would still need to do things

[azure oriole]

A fight like this wouldn't fit Eternal IMO. Him being in a mech was the right idea, it's just the execution after that that is mid.

[slow sigil]

oh what the hell do you want from me vega

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896461823786762300/1098622876703281302/j54yvpi8twua1.png

[dull herald]

davoth if he lost weight

[lyric lodge]

looks kinda goofy with that big ass head

[slow sigil]

they just copy pasted the giant mecha suit's head so

[azure oriole]

Here, I will fix Davoth's fight while still keeping the basic idea.

[slow sigil]

and tbf it doesnt look that goofy

[lyric lodge]

ohh damn

[azure oriole]

• Davoth no longer does the green light thing, and can be attacked after every swing. You no longer need the Sentinel Hammer to stun him for longer - it can instead be used to push him back if he overwhelms you.
• However, he has a "feint" ability. As you fight him, he has the ability to occasionally predict your attack after a swing, which is forecasted by a different animation. If you hit him during that time, he will counter attack and "glory kill" you a-la you hitting the Gladiator, dealing massive damage and healing himself.
  -Davoth switches from passively defensive, to actively aggressive as you fight. When playing defensively, he will Flame Belch parts of the arena, which will stay on fire and hurt the Slayer if he touches them, as well as spawning low-level demons and trying to swing while you're distracted. When aggressive, he will shoot grenades, swing very commonly, feint more often. He gets more aggressive as the fight goes on.
• After beating a phase, Davoth flees briefly to spawn a wave of demons to fight, each wave getting stronger. After killing them all, the next phase begins.

[lyric lodge]

yeah the actual body is really cool imo but the head is just a very tad bit big

[slow sigil]

the biggest fix of all i want from davoth is putting him in an actual arena and not an empty circle

[dull herald]

if you imagine the horns arent there its about regular slayer helmet size sooo

its probably a horn problem 🤭

[azure oriole]

Guys what is the Best skin in your opinion

[dull herald]

defaults the best skin...

[lyric lodge]

dad bod

[slow sigil]

wetland warrior

[dull herald]

WHAT

why

[slow sigil]

i fucking love the glowing green blade and dark green colours

[azure oriole]

If i buy the doomicorn skin is it à disrespect for doomguy😭

[slow sigil]

green isnt even my favourite colour i just really like it when seeing the blade

[dull herald]

wait let me look at it ingame one sec

[azure oriole]

My super out-there idea, if I had directed the fight: The fight between them takes place at the core of Immora, the center of Jekkad which is shaped and molded by the thoughts of the people inside of it. The arena itself changes every phase, shaking up the fight and establishing that the backgrounds aren't real - you're not teleporting, the arena is an illusion.
It starts out with both of you fighting in a throne room, but Phase 2 switches to the Spider Mastermind's arena as it scans Doomguy's memories. Phase 3 goes back further to the ruins of a desolate Mars - Phase 4 takes place in Hell catacombs with cliffs as the destroyed Icon of Sin looms above them. Phase 5, the end of the fight, takes place in the first level of Doom.

[lyric lodge]

wait how would it take place in the first level of doom

[azure oriole]

Every arena would be shaped differently, meaning you change your strategy, plus offering nostalgia for the fight.

[azure oriole]

You fight Davoth in the main room of E1M1.

The idea is that their arena is changing shape because of the Slayer's memories. It's reflecting his past.

[lyric lodge]

ohhhh but ngl e1m1 is kinda small for an arena like that imo

[azure oriole]

Multiple arenas, plus nostalgia that heightens the impact of the end of the Slayer's saga, plus more mystical Immora tech bullshit.

[azure oriole]

good but the horns are way to much

[dull herald]

i thought so too 🤭🤭

also wetland warrior is ummm well

[azure oriole]

what is up with bro and "🤭 "

[dull herald]

i don't really go for the swamp aesthetic but the doomblade is a highlight for sure

[azure oriole]

nimrod

bog master race

[slow sigil]

the blade is almost the only relevant thing so it's a massive point

[azure oriole]

it is amazing

[dull herald]

wellll what do you think about the maykr series doomblades??

[slow sigil]

also pretty cool

in my top for sure

[dull herald]

same- rlly well done stuff i just um

cant seem to use anything other than default slayer :c

[sinful coral]

Just got doom eternal yesterday it's not bad but in my opinion the game before it is better

[azure oriole]

yeah

Why can’t we chain saw fire barons

[sinful coral]

Fr

[lyric lodge]

idfk to make them harder or smth?

[azure oriole]

super heavy unit

[lyric lodge]

to give a better sense of challenge for them ig

[azure oriole]

yeah

[lyric lodge]

idk man doom eternal kinda more engaging(i havent play 2016)

[azure oriole]

Also they should’ve done some enemies that take 2 fuel units

why cant i just skip the only barely challenging demon that is properly utilized

For chainsaw

[sinful coral]

Ik I just like doom 2016 animations and gore better

[lyric lodge]

prob prowlers and shit

[azure oriole]

Nahhhhhhhh it marauder lol Xd

[azure oriole]

marauder is underutilized

[lyric lodge]

oh the gore and animations in 2016 seem to be amazing. those glory kills look insane plus the death animations

[azure oriole]

bro is in like 5 levels

[lyric lodge]

although the actual scenery of eternal clears imo even if the artstyle isn't EXACTLY better

[azure oriole]

More if the master levels count

[lyric lodge]

well he's ultilized a lot in tag1

[azure oriole]

master levels are best

[lyric lodge]

too afraid to touch them tbh

[azure oriole]

i was talking about campaign

[azure oriole]

Just use ballista and ssg and rpg lol Xd rofl lmfao

[lyric lodge]

ah well ig he is ultilised a little lower but ehhh its still aight

[azure oriole]

tags use him correctly

[lyric lodge]

quickswapping skills ass rn

[dull herald]

true

i used to think that was a bad thing but now i think hes more annoying than anything and kinda am glad hes not everywhere

[azure oriole]

bruh 5 marauders would be fun

Remember when you met the marauder you had to a do a dance on to see who can’t bust the best moves

[lyric lodge]

NO FUCKING WAY-

[azure oriole]

but not if there are buff units

[dull herald]

world spear easter egg:

[azure oriole]

?

that exists?

[azure oriole]

2 marauders 10 barons and 12 tyrants is something I think I can handle

[dull herald]

uhhh yeah

[azure oriole]

tyrants are annoying

[azure oriole]

No there fun

[dull herald]

unless they got rid of it 🤭

[lyric lodge]

tyrants are a joke

[azure oriole]

to much health for a unit that stands there

[azure oriole]

Depends on the map

[lyric lodge]

THATS FUCKING INSANE BRO

[lyric lodge]

literally just chaingun shield their asses on top of some grenades or bp

[azure oriole]

What if they buffed

Huh huh?????

[lyric lodge]

idfk havent touch tag2

[azure oriole]

tyrants are usually in arenas with more inportant enamies

[lyric lodge]

best to really just quickswap

[slow sigil]

totems:

[azure oriole]

Imagine cyber marauder

[slow sigil]

with how much enemies there are dblde would probs be better

[azure oriole]

im loading up tag 2 to see these marauders

Who else knew you can chainsaw tentacles

[dull herald]

i bet youtube has a tutorial

[azure oriole]

?????

[dull herald]

its a small secret encounter in the snow area

[azure oriole]

i rememer now

[dull herald]

no i dont mean secret encounter as in gore nest just um an encounter thats a secret

[azure oriole]

i did it once then forgot

[lyric lodge]

needa save this istg

[azure oriole]

Imagine if there was mechanic that in the middle of chain sawing a enemy it stops because it ran out of fuel and depending where u chainsaws eather it dies and lives with lower hp

[lyric lodge]

the dblade is insane for tyrants

[slow sigil]

that would fit more with chainsaw being a regular weapon and not your reload button with animation

[lyric lodge]

iirc 4800 dmg is like half of the tyrant's hp

[azure oriole]

So is that good or bad

yeAH I WILL BE BACK SOON

[slow sigil]

neither, just different

[azure oriole]

caps lock, my mortal enamy

[slow sigil]

dblade doesnt do that much

[azure oriole]

Imagine if the blade that you use for glory kills was like a weapon like flameblech or gernades like a separate mechanic

[lyric lodge]

idk heard glask say it did that much

[slow sigil]

that is double dblade

weird tech where you get 2 dblades at once

[azure oriole]

imagine if thats what the melee was

All super heavy demons are fun to deal with

[dull herald]

marauder:

[slow sigil]

tyrants and marauders not really

tyrants are too boring, marauders are too annoying and buggy

[azure oriole]

just learned that you can flame belch buff totems

[lyric lodge]

tf does that do

[slow sigil]

armour

[dull herald]

LOL

[livid parrot]

inf armour glitch?!?!?!

[lyric lodge]

damn.

[azure oriole]

Make the buff totem say ow and pulls out a Glock 19 and shoots u

[lyric lodge]

freeze it before that happens

[livid parrot]

INFINITE ARMOUR GLITCH

[azure oriole]

imagine

[slow sigil]

stick the buff totem in a prowler and make it an enemy

[dull herald]

technically you already have an infinite armor source 🤭

[livid parrot]

the only way to destroy a totem is to punch it

so inf armour cause it cant die

[slow sigil]

you know that enemies on fire eventually wont be on fire anymore right

[dull herald]

i was just about to say that

[livid parrot]

the point in using it again

[dull herald]

???

[lyric lodge]

jit there's a cooldown

[livid parrot]

just wait bro

[azure oriole]

Does flame bleach damage enemies

[slow sigil]

yes

[livid parrot]

yes

[azure oriole]

oh wow maybe

[dull herald]

by your logic, wouldn't this work against anything considering flame belch does like no damage?

[azure oriole]

Worng I set a baron on fire and it staggerd

[dull herald]

he was low bro

[livid parrot]

say a zombie or somthing it would die after some time of just setting it on fire

[slow sigil]

flame belch does 1 damage
it was likely in stagger range already

[dull herald]

it does damage yeah but taking demon health amounts into account it basically does nothing

[livid parrot]

i mean you have a point

but i think it will work

[azure oriole]

Eternal's art style is much better than 2016's IMO

[dull herald]

you think lighting a demon on fire and just sitting there, waiting, as the fire goes out, then flaming again is a viable armor source?

[livid parrot]

no

[lyric lodge]

i personally dont mind its "retro"-ish artstyle(idfk what to call it ok) and its def a great one but 2016's art style is for sure amazing for its darkness and gore

[random vault]

yes obviously

[livid parrot]

just set it on fire and kill it you get all the armour

[dull herald]

that is not what you said 😭

[livid parrot]

ik

[slow sigil]

2016 is the generic "realistic grimness" style

[livid parrot]

i was talking about the totem

[slow sigil]

the only thing worse then generic is bad which eternal isnt

[dull herald]

but keeping the totem alive is suicide

[lyric lodge]

yeah kinda is and the environments themselves do seem to get repetitive sometimes?

[livid parrot]

i can do it

[dull herald]

you're already not doing the best strategy by KEEPING it alive

[lyric lodge]

only zero master would do that

[slow sigil]

i do it usually

[livid parrot]

it just takes skill

[random vault]

i see no problem here

[dull herald]

me in three months

[slow sigil]

it's pretty fun, and honestly the totem should have been forced more often

it's dumb to literally remove the entire specialty of the arena in the first minute

[livid parrot]

totem just spawns first ever fight in the game

[azure oriole]

buff totems dont increase enemy health now do they

[random vault]

dont you dare even THINK about it

[livid parrot]

probobly not just damage

[dull herald]

using the flame belch normally is so much more viable bro i dont get this 😭

[azure oriole]

I dont like buff totems

[dull herald]

i do

[livid parrot]

it adds a challenge but i respect it

[random vault]

your just bad hes, too advanced for you, your playing checkers hes playing chess

[dull herald]

im gonna start recycling you

[random vault]

stop thats not a recycle

[azure oriole]

i wouldnt mind if the Archvile was just a walking buff totem + spawn demons

[dull herald]

i've heard you say that like 20 times bro

[random vault]

me first

[livid parrot]

i agree

[azure oriole]

He already just teleports around the map and u are always searchin for him

[livid parrot]

ik its so annoying

[azure oriole]

He’s the guy that wont stop stalking my wife

[dull herald]

tmg when 0.00001% in the lead on sven co-op: "u guys are playing checkers im playing chess"

[livid parrot]

baby doom (with the keycards)

[random vault]

actual :nerdbob: :houn: :youn:

[lyric lodge]

quite annoying sometimes tbh

[azure oriole]

I dont mind him sense ill blast his ass with a few homing rockets

[random vault]

doom lore

[azure oriole]

Hes always priority to use a crucible for me

[lyric lodge]

i be forgetting to do that

[azure oriole]

It be cool if summoners return but just to heal demons around her

[livid parrot]

hes coming for us run!

[dull herald]

she already basically did nothing in 2016 soo

[livid parrot]

or

[azure oriole]

Archvile is the og sigma male as he stands tall on his throne next to two Summoners

[azure oriole]

now she possesses demons

Spirit bi-

[livid parrot]

ive never played 2016 but i beat eternal like 10 times ☠️

[dull herald]

literally any demon stands above the summoner

comparing her to the archvile is an insult to the archvile

shes like uh

[livid parrot]

absolute facts

ive watched like everyone play 2016 yet i havent played 2016

[dull herald]

"a demon that flies around and sometimes spawns other demons if you literally let her theres no risk whatsoever"
not an "archvile clone"

i suppose if doom 3 didn't exist, the summoner would've been the first regular demon to adopt the "summoning" gimmick considering the archvile from doom 2 did not summon demons but did resurrect dead ones

[azure oriole]

bruh

this encounter wont end

[azure oriole]

shes the arhviles hoe

she never stood a chance to that THICC BOY

all the heavies are gone but the imps are still spawning

[livid parrot]

archvile is so hard to find when he teleports

[dull herald]

well he does indicate where he's going through visual effects

[slow sigil]

doesnt he leave an indication to show where he is going?>

[livid parrot]

i have terrible eyesight

[dull herald]

yeah

small ummm flame i guess?

[livid parrot]

so i dont see the effects

[dull herald]

he also sticks out like a sore thumb and you'd have to be blind to not see him

[livid parrot]

i see that

[dull herald]

so losing track of him isnt an issue considering he's rather easy to spot

[livid parrot]

ik

but in big areas its impossible to keep track of him

[azure oriole]

well

[dull herald]

he does give you some time to find him at least 🤭

[livid parrot]

ik

[lyric lodge]

proceeds to pull out his shield

[livid parrot]

as soon as i find him he is dead

[dull herald]

precision bolt:

[livid parrot]

i was bouta say that

[lyric lodge]

Precision bolts honest reaction :

[dull herald]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-right-sure-yep-yes-gif-13730457

[livid parrot]

archvile puts up shield precision bolt:

[random vault]

umm, no

[dull herald]

so fucking true

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-gif-24496241

[lyric isle]

Is there a demo version of doom eternal on steam?

[azure oriole]

dont think so

cant find any

[acoustic lark]

No.

[azure oriole]

i dont think there is a doom eternal demo

[lyric isle]

rip

[azure oriole]

can i link SoundCloud with discord or only spotify?

got kicked from train discord group for mentioning planes

[icy ice]

Finally beat the Kaiser campaign on nightmare. Very good mod

[azure oriole]

kaiser campaign?

[north oxide]

just don't ever mention automobiles

[azure oriole]

whats that mod about?

kaiser has peaked my intests

[slow sigil]

harder campaign with a bit of different pacing and unique demons iirc

[azure oriole]

mentioning aviation is a great sin in the train comunity

[azure oriole]

i thought it was like a genuinly large mod

[slow sigil]

it is

[azure oriole]

like bbeyond skyrim

[slow sigil]

not finished yet but still pretty big

[azure oriole]

or skyblivion

[slow sigil]

it's big for an eternal mod

no clue how big those random elder scrolls mods are

[azure oriole]

skyblivion is oblivion in skyrim

and beyond skyrim is literally just that

just outside of skyrim

neither are finnished but that is expected of adding like a bajjilion new campaigns and the other is litterally another game just attached to its sequel

[icy ice]

It's finished. Act 3 released in March

And I was stuck on the beginning of Urdak for a while and rage quit lol

[slow sigil]

ok, i may be a bit behind

[icy ice]

But I fired it up again a few days ago and I beat the whole game

Use the latest version of the Kaiser mod though, as I kept getting game crashes when I was 6/8 done with the icon of sin's second phase 😭

[azure oriole]

ok yeah i looked a tiny bit into kaiser

very cool

nice that there are tag enamies in it

stone imp nerf:(

i crave challenge

[icy ice]

There are some very memorable and extreme challenges in this mod too. I don't mind the stone imp being more vulnerable to other weapons as you can kill it with other ones in the DLC as well.

[azure oriole]

stone imp is literally a color variant now

also goo disabled

[icy ice]

In most cases, it's for the better

One change I didn't like was to the cursed prowler.

[azure oriole]

blasphemy

[azure oriole]

what did they do to my boy

[pseudo flower]

https://youtu.be/TDuWPbmKN_M

[azure oriole]

holy shit

[azure oriole]

all of 4chan morphed into one man

[young mango]

He seems happy tho

[dull herald]

@tame jungle

[random vault]

@tame jungle :pleas:

[tame jungle]

relatable

[random vault]

hi

[tame jungle]

hiii

[azure forum]

hi

[random vault]

?

[azure oriole]

what

time to re 100% the game again

good

too bad my whole save is gone

relatable

[azure oriole]

i dont wanna do ws ml again

no hammer/ice bomb is actual torture

nuh uh

[random vault]

then dont do it

[azure oriole]

it is on controller

based

[azure oriole]

i must do it

[young mango]

world spears not as hard as taras at least

[azure oriole]

taras only has 1 hard fight

bearable

[young mango]

archviel

[azure oriole]

what the fuck is taras nabbad at again?

i forgor

master level of the 9th lvl from the main campaign

the crucible level?

yes

[young mango]

yes

[azure oriole]

i forgot how hard cultist base was

[azure forum]

Ice bomb is the only thing you get to miss in master levels

[azure oriole]

im not good with level names, or names in general

[azure oriole]

well hammer too in ws

i can live with no ice bomb but no hammer in ws is annoying

hamnar

[azure forum]

Yeah, but it is only 1 level compared to the other 3-4 for ice bomb

[young mango]

hammers op but blood punch is the next best thing and you get pretty accustomed to it

[azure oriole]

tru ill leave ws for last then

[azure oriole]

no

still got the whole main campaign + dlc to redo

[azure forum]

You still have BFG so that should do some work

[young mango]

what

[azure oriole]

i dont like bfg ill try doing it with no bfg

i only remember blood punch when i accidently use it or there is a cyber mancubis

[azure forum]

I wish the BP rune was just a little better

[young mango]

i never even bothered using it

[azure forum]

Actually, both BP runes

I don't use air control anymore so I've landed to use that punch reeve thing

[azure oriole]

is pb suppot rune any good?

[young mango]

yes

[azure oriole]

why no air control?

[azure forum]

The question is, is any of the support runes good?

[azure oriole]

yeah most of them sucks

theres like only 4 good ones

i like extra life one

[azure forum]

Battlemode. Since I got into battlemode, i stopped using it completely to get used to it

[young mango]

desperate punch is probably the worst because if you find it practical that means you get to low health way too often which means you're probably not very good in the first place

[azure oriole]

i see

[azure oriole]

i just chainsaw when im panicking

[azure forum]

It is bad. I use it mainly for the health sound alert that it makes

[azure oriole]

mostly cous when somone takes my extra life they are close to death anyway

[young mango]

the worst rune of all is probably chronostrike

[azure forum]

Hmmm I used to love Chronos strike when I started playing. It has some "new player" use, but it is maybe the worst for sure

[young mango]

it's very impractical, it breaks the flow if that makes any sense

[azure forum]

Yep, once you get into quick swap and start using dblade and lock on a lot, then it is as useless as it can be

[azure oriole]

any news on the new doom game?

[young mango]

i feel like it should have at least had it's own dedicated button or something, having it be the mod button is just super awkward

[azure oriole]

or quake whatever it was

[young mango]

no nobody knows anything about what is is when it is or where it is, it is a nice surprise that we'll find out one day

[azure oriole]

controllers are limited

[strange gale]

chrono is meta here https://youtu.be/jWt1a2aQS_I?t=149

[young mango]

okay true it does have some silly physics implication, but for casual players its awkward

[azure oriole]

can i start the dlcs without completing the main campaign?

[young mango]

yes

[azure oriole]

what the hell bro

[strange gale]

nah bp is really good, it does a lot more than just break cmanc armor

[vague ore]

anyone got any tips for UN regular campaign (except for rocket lock spamming and not dying)

[azure oriole]

spam chaingun shield

[vague ore]

I don't think i've ever used the chaingun in my life

[azure oriole]

I have only beaten it on Ps I don’t know your system but I generally struggled with a few attempts trough the first 3 Levels and then I followed this

1. I stay 90% in the air (abuse tripple jump)
   2.In every fight kill off the demons you struggle with the most (keep a note of the spwns)
2. Use your super weapons in the fights you found to be the hardest

[azure oriole]

its fun when you're a new player

[azure oriole]

It protects you like a bubble use it when you are getting low on health it’s very good

[vague ore]

wait what is triple jumping, is it like bunny jumping?

[azure oriole]

based

If you jump twice and you meat hook something you can jump off the meet hook

This can be very useful in fitghts against for example Gladiator or Mancubs (their AI breaks if you are aboth their head)

[vague ore]

oh yeah that

if i make it that far

[azure oriole]

im going camping later

[azure oriole]

I generally only struggled with the first levels but just replay the fights you struggle with one take note of the spawns in those fights

[young mango]

Get good at dodging projectiles, they have this quirk where they go where you’re going to be not where you are, so you have to make odd maneuvers on the fly, also getting good at the early levels is CRUCIAL, especially cultist base, things can go south very quickly there

[azure oriole]

If I can beat it on ps4 with 30 fps you can too

Good luck

[vague ore]

Yeah, I usually die at cultist base because of the mancubus (before the super shotgun)

[azure oriole]

The fight where you get the rocket launcher can overwhelm you very quickly he is right ^^

[azure oriole]

Take it as slow as you can and break down your mistakes

[young mango]

Well you do have lock on at that point so hitting him with a lock on and then a precision bolt instantly kills him, or better yet just SLOB, also an instakill

[vague ore]

SLOB?

[azure oriole]

Also I watched a guide from Cynic or something like that that will help you to
Maybe

[young mango]

Sylar lock on burst, it’s done by using any SLOB applicable weapon ( precision bolt is the easiest ) firing a rocket, then right clicking into your lock on mod, then spam left click until it fires, and once you get dual lock you can use both on the same enemy by continuing to spam left without pressing right click

[vague ore]

got a video that might help with that?

[young mango]

https://youtu.be/6NfjtOLenRs

While there’s no in depth tutorial for it ( to my knowledge ) I could make one if this doesn’t make it clear enough

[vague ore]

I kind of get it but you don't have to make a video if you don't want too

[pseudo flower]

The video he's reacting to was made private

[azure oriole]

my pfp symbolizes how i feel when no purple goo

[vagrant estuary]

How do you do that on ls4

[young mango]

Same way on pc, since it’s only between two weapons you can just press the bumper the switch between the two

[azure oriole]

what is the hardest mod for doo eternal?

is it Kaiser? ?

[young mango]

Unreclaimed earth unbalanced

[azure oriole]

the person that made that mod really like un

[jaunty vapor]

It's probably the hardest while still being somewhat balanced.

I think a lot of Deltas stuff was usually unnecessarily hard or just poorly designed. Not impossible obviously, but very rarely fun

[dire solstice]

just wondering is doom eternal on xbox game pass for pc as good as the version on steam?

[latent badger]

depends if you prefer console or pc gaming

is there any channels here you can post images

made a level tier list and i wanted to post it

[viral slate]

Does anyone have a favorite doom twitch prime skin?

If so then what is it?

[north oxide]

I can't remember which ones were Prime skins outside of Doomicorn

[viral slate]

There's hot rod, mullet slayer, cosplay slayer, and doomicorn

[midnight sparrow]

You can copy the media link and paste it then it will post the image. Otherwise I guess #artwork would be the place

[north oxide]

cosplay slayer

[viral slate]

Mine is mullet

Used to be cosplay

[north oxide]

i use the cosplay slayer with the quakecon stage background

[viral slate]

I do the same thing but with mullet slayer and the home sweet home background

[north oxide]

nice

[viral slate]

Do you have a favorite style?

[latent badger]

doom eternal level tier list
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915320518587064352/1098705836399919154/doom_eternal_tier_list.png

[north oxide]

current playthough I'm using the Doom 2 skin with the Quake slipgate background

[latent badger]

oh well the embed worked

[viral slate]

I can see why you put blood swamps in d tier

[latent badger]

i really like giant open arenas, the archvile arena in taras nabad is my favourite in the game

the blood swamps is the complete opposite of that

[viral slate]

Big tentacle = scary

[latent badger]

oh the tentacle i dont care about even if it did jumpscare me

i just really dont like the majority of the arena designs

the double tyrant arena was... fine

[viral slate]

The holt is urdak but with a better boss and a ok level design

[latent badger]

i think the exact opposite lol

samur was ludicrously hard and i enjoyed urdak way more

[viral slate]

I feel like the seraphim was better because it wasn't really the same stage over and over again

[azure oriole]

The only redeeming part of Urdak is the ambient music

[latent badger]

true, but it was just so much harder for me

[viral slate]

Same here

Dark lord was boring

[latent badger]

im really not a fan of a lot of the super cramped arenas in the dlc levels

[viral slate]

The ending was good though thats the only redeeming part

[latent badger]

yea the dark lord bossfight itself was really not enjoyable

[viral slate]

I kinda disagree and agree with sentinel prime ranking

[latent badger]

too much green flash, marauders are fine, gladiator was eh, and during the prefight cutscene i said OUT LOUD "i swear to god if this is another green flash boss"

[viral slate]

I like the gladiator

The classic hell knight got brought back but as a boss

But the jumprope part as I like to call it was kinda annoying

[latent badger]

i think 3 green flash bosses is a bit much is all

the jump rope section was not very enjoyable

[viral slate]

The world spear was annoying on classic mode

But atleast I got the green chrome slayer

[latent badger]

nice

only master level ive started was taras nabad, quit at the coin room cause holy FUCK its hard lol

[viral slate]

I completed that on classic mode too

It was pretty hard with the whiplash and archvilles

[latent badger]

i love the big open arena as usual

[viral slate]

Arc complex is good but its not my favorite

[latent badger]

i do have to say

the only thing they fear is you is doing legwork for arc complex

cause holy shit thats my favourite song in the game

[viral slate]

My favorite song is bfg division 2020 rework

Not the original from 2016

[latent badger]

i dont recall the remix

[viral slate]

I dont think its heard much through the campaign

[latent badger]

also i think its really crazy how good the ost is in eternal for all the shit that mick went through

[viral slate]

Justice for mick

[latent badger]

indeed

my only doom game is eternal, i genuinely cant imagine playing a doom without him in it

[viral slate]

I have all of them but I mostly play eternal

[latent badger]

havent played doom 1 yet cause im still getting all the cheat codes, i really like some of the tracks from there

into sandy's city and at doom's gate being favourites of mine

[viral slate]

My favorite is "I sawed the demons"

[latent badger]

thats good as well

[viral slate]

Nekravol part 1 is a bit better than part 2 imo

Mainly because there is more to explore

[latent badger]

i havent played either in a while

and i do not remember what happened in part 1 at all

[viral slate]

The thing i Remember the most is that brain thing with the eye turrets

[latent badger]

oh right, that thing

that fight was annoying

[viral slate]

Not as annoying as the turrets in tag 1 and 2

[latent badger]

those things are bastards

[dusty sable]

what's the easiest way to deal with an archvile again ? ice bomb and then random whatever or there is a weapon he is weak to ?

[young mango]

20 hours left until my 1000th hour in doom eternal

[latent badger]

lock on burst

[dusty sable]

Ight thanks

[latent badger]

ssg ballista works as well, but that works on everything

[viral slate]

I think 2 hits with the lock on burst and blood punch with ice bomb is better with archvilles

[warped sage]

Replaying Eternal, know the way to defeat the Whiplash with mid-tier arsenal? Of course I already have the ice bomb, but I have not acquired the lock on burst for my rocket yet.

[latent badger]

it would have been really cool to get the archvile intro on the uac mars base like in the trailer

[viral slate]

I wonder what happened to Hayden before he got his legs got cut off

[warped sage]

None of the significant demons got intro cinematics in Eternal sadly. A recurring feature in 2016 and also can be seen in the gameplay demos, but not in retail Eternal.

[north oxide]

ice bomb+SSG works nicely

[warped sage]

I haven’t got the SSG either. I’m at Cultist Base before that part.

[north oxide]

what's the best weapon you have?

[viral slate]

I mean you could use sticky bombs + ice bomb or ice bomb + full auto

[latent badger]

dang that sounds cool

[warped sage]

I’ll see!

[viral slate]

Imma hop off discord for a bit and play doom eternal or something

[dull herald]

Imma hop off doom eternal for a bit and play discord or something

[latent badger]

lol

[dusty sable]

wouldnt it be funny if devs made regular zombies completly immune to punches and blood punch ?

[latent badger]

punches? they basically already are

[dusty sable]

obv, but blood punch too, for the meme

[latent badger]

and i mean that really changes nothing if theyre immune to blood punch

i only blood punch a fodder if i really have no other options

[dusty sable]

comedic purposes

[latent badger]

ig

[sacred dirge]

Goofy

[azure oriole]

I hate the super gore nest master level on nightmare

[limber canopy]

I cannot stress this enough, skill issue

[azure forum]

What kind of joke is this? Blood swamps is by far the best level in the game

[latent badger]

"i really like giant open arenas, the archvile arena in taras nabad is my favourite in the game
the blood swamps is the complete opposite of that"

i really hate the fog

[azure oriole]

Keys without the e

[slow sigil]

2 relative arenas = whole level

[latent badger]

i was summarizing my opinion on it

i dont like the level as a whole, the dog section is really annoying, the boss fight is mediocre at best, the fog makes me want to bfg myself, etc

[slow sigil]

Isn't the dog and fog part literally the same

[latent badger]

i also hate spirits, and i hadnt figured out how to deal with them yet (yes i knew to use the micro beam but it was an adjustment to deal with the possessed demons)

[slow sigil]

"I hate new things" basically

[latent badger]

...no

i just found both new mechanics, in the fog and spirits, to be annoying

i dont hate everything from the dlc but i just dont enjoy either of those

[slow sigil]

now rate the MLs

[latent badger]

i havent played the majority of them

[slow sigil]

It's only 4 real MLs so not much you gotta play

[latent badger]

i started taras nabad

[azure oriole]

bog hater put blood swamps in d

its s +

[latent badger]

i feel that the slur is unnecessary but you can read up for my reasoning as too why

its my own tier list, and im pretty biased

[azure oriole]

isnt a slur if im one of them

[slow sigil]

It's still a slur

Either noone can use it or everyone can choose it

[azure oriole]

nuh uh

[latent badger]

theres a pretty specific type of gameplay that i enjoy and the blood swamps just does the complete opposite of that

[azure oriole]

i rather anyone than no one

[latent badger]

it still is

[slow sigil]

Alr
It stays being a slur despite that though

[latent badger]

it seems that hot takes are not welcome in the doom community

[azure oriole]

i will use a different word

[azure oriole]

not if its about my beloved swamps

[latent badger]

that doesnt give you the right to be an asshole about it

[azure oriole]

bog hater

[slow sigil]

only if they are the correct hot takes smh

[azure oriole]

fr

[latent badger]

fucking hell

this community is shit

[azure oriole]

cri

[slow sigil]

Not a hot take, that just seems difficult

[latent badger]

wdym

[slow sigil]

nothing

[latent badger]

wdym that just seems difficult

[viral slate]

I am the

[slow sigil]

Every community has some assholes
Doomio just happened to be around and he's new aswell

[viral slate]

Most of every community is assholes

Not just some

[latent badger]

of course i just so happened to run into the one person who has a orgasmic love for the blood swamps

[viral slate]

I mean whats wrong with that?

[latent badger]

he called me a slur and then changed it when he was called out on it

[viral slate]

Dang

[slow sigil]

Nearly half the playerbase does, it's flaws are too short to be huge issues over everything else it does so well
More like you came across the kid who doesnt know yet how to communicate intelligently

[latent badger]

not quite your garden variety asshole

[latent badger]

i guess

[limber bobcat]

Привет

[viral slate]

Yes

[limber bobcat]

😂

I’m sorry that means hello in Russian

[viral slate]

I don't understand russian

[limber bobcat]

I can tell