doom-eternal

[acoustic lark]

oh

hmm

[lucid pier]

tried to download it 4 time, always the same message :/

[acoustic lark]

u have another SD card to try?

[lucid pier]

unfortunately no

[acoustic lark]

legit the first time i read about it

[lucid pier]

but the sd is not the issue, it works for other games

[lucid pier]

damn :/

should i contact nintendo or the doom devs to try solve this?

[acoustic lark]

isnt there a option to like verify the game files or something?

[lucid pier]

mmmm i can look

[acoustic lark]

well not the dev's directly, they cant to anything support related. For official support please visit https://help.bethesda.net/

[lucid pier]

alright, thanks for trying to help <3

[acoustic lark]

Hope you get it resolved quickly ^_^

[lucid pier]

yeah me too haha

[lucid pier]

@acoustic lark so i looked in details, and it looks like the game or an dlc is corrupted, wich i don't know wich it is

[jolly kernel]

I should play the Master Levels

[lyric isle]

i did it

i finally did it
after oh so long

i finished the Mars Core Slayer Gate

holy shit was it hard
marauder + 2 dread knights + 2 hell knights + maykr drone (i think) + shit ton of prowlers

[sacred dirge]

Then try out some of the great modded stuff.

[lyric isle]

i dont think i can mod eternal on a PS5

[sacred dirge]

Ah no unfortunately

[lyric isle]

say
What mods are there for eternal?

[sacred dirge]

Custom monsters skins enemy skins custom monsters custom weapon mods custom master levels a co op mode now. All kinds of neat stuff

[lyric isle]

wow

that sounds pretty nice

[azure oriole]

The gladiator is the only boss i died more than once to in the whole game (including DLCs)

[jolly kernel]

I fucking swear I just saw an Imp suddenly die randomly

I didn’t shoot him

[azure oriole]

Maybe the imp died of fear

[plucky temple]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-hello-chat-doom-eternal-gif-22638125

[lyric isle]

suprisingly the gladiator was an easy fight
i nearly died alot, yes, but i managed to survive as i was near a heart attack lmao

also im boutta get this cool looking gun
5/6 empyrian keys used

that means one more slayergate

also also
there is a secret above the demonic crucible that i cant reach and idk how to reach it

[granite lichen]

does chrono strike affect the meathook in any way?

[acoustic lark]

if i remember correctly it does

[lyric isle]

i figured it out
sneaky

[granite lichen]

whats it do

[acoustic lark]

Slows down time

[azure oriole]

uh well its not a very powerful weapon

[granite lichen]

well yeah but does it work like the weapon wheel

turn the meathook into a yeethook?

[lyric isle]

eh, i want it for achievments aswell

[azure oriole]

cool

[azure oriole]

That's why i don't like it tbh

[jolly kernel]

geez why do I frequently accidentally switch through weapons without firing them

I just don’t get it

[young mango]

Yes that happens a lot when beginning to learn quickswitching

[limber canopy]

Guys i've been asking for help about this for ages but have never gotten a reply

The game acts like i have chrono strike equipped but i dont

What the hell is going on

[azure oriole]

I learned it in doom 2016

I'm kinda sad hell razers aren't in eternal tbh

[limber canopy]

They are simply irrelevant

[supple belfry]

been trynna open eternal for like 4 days but it wont let me, the game saw me beat ultra nightmare and decided it would be better to annihilate me

[limber canopy]

How about reinstalling it?

[sacred dirge]

Fear not they are in Mighty Doom

[azure oriole]

But the ones in mighty doom suck

[jolly kernel]

man, what a great level design idea

covering a cramped room with fog and said room has Mecha-Zombies, Spectre Whiplashes and a Marauder

[jolly kernel]

I did it some more times and now it happens less often hehe

[limber canopy]

You'll learn it eventually

Theres also a way you can skip the first arena entirely

[azure oriole]

I just used my chaingun and spinned around while shooting

[sacred dirge]

Brrt brrrt

[jolly kernel]

and yeah, sorry if I bothered you guys. I'm generally not good in regards to talking with others

[young mango]

So how’s SGN ML going for ya now

[jolly kernel]

I actually took a break to improve my skills in regards to certain stuff lol

I managed to kill a Tyrant in 5 seconds

throwing 2 frag grenades and an ice bomb at him, using lock-on on him, blood punching him then swapping back and forth between the ssg, ballista and pb

[wise axle]

so, i'm getting into doom eternal for again after not playing for like two years, were marauders always this cowardly?

i remember being a vehement marauder defender day 1 but like, these guys are actually kinda boring

[midnight sparrow]

I’ve seen this sentiment shared before here. His gimmick was cool when you got the hang of it at the games launch but now it’s just a chore and boring

Isn’t the slightest bit engaging anymore

[wise axle]

i remember watching people complain about the instructions being unclear and thinking i was soo clever for figuring out i could get him to run at me and not try to stand in the middle distance, but like just now, after finishing the World Spear ML my hype was killed for the final arena as soon as I heard the guy

but in contrast i've found the spirit to be much better than my initial impression

[rose matrix]

at least you didn’t accidentally BFG a lone caco while playing arc complex

[rose matrix]

i FINALLY beat sgn master

should i try some other master levels next or go for sgn on ultra violence

[past vapor]

I just beat doom hunter base on nightmare without using up an extra life

[azure oriole]

god how?

skill

[rose matrix]

avoid taking CRITICAL DAMAGE

[azure oriole]

o

[past vapor]

Honestly dont know

Was at like 7hp around 20 times

[azure oriole]

lucky too i guess

[keen rune]

Why does this emoji exist

[dull herald]

foreskinmuncher

[keen rune]

Yes?

[frail grove]

Sooooo, new personal best on marauder kill, 24 seconds yea I used the cheats but I don't care lol

[lyric isle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856498429324427264/1095674033909010582/Screenshot_2023-04-12_at_2.37.20_PM.png

what the shit
so many buff totems

[past wadi]

What in the sprited marauder

[slow sigil]

yeah exactly, it's a wild arena

[strange gale]

yeah, buff totems.

[lyric isle]

please dont tell me there are marauders in that arena

[past wadi]

I would assume there are

[slow sigil]

you will discover

[lyric isle]

alright

ah fuck

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856498429324427264/1095677271613907074/Screenshot_2023-04-12_at_2.50.12_PM.png

[gaunt obsidian]

hi

[lyric isle]

archvile was surprisingly easy to kill with plasma gun

[weak schooner]

Yeah archvile is quite annoying but ey it's a good challenge

[azure oriole]

So I managed to beat UAC atlantica at last, and the dual marauders really weren't that bad

[covert oar]

i honestly don’t mind them

[keen rune]

Mine is 6 seconds

[frail grove]

I play doom on console, ps4 to be exact, weapon swapping isn't exactly as fast as key bindings on a computer keyboard

[keen rune]

There are not

[keen rune]

Those are crucible pickups

[lyric isle]

really?
looks alot like buff totems to me

[keen rune]

Its a sword

Use it to insta kill the archvile

[keen rune]

Is this your first time you play?

[lyric isle]

yep

[keen rune]

Is it fun?

[lyric isle]

yep
but also makes me rage alot, still like it

hi

[keen rune]

Do you know how to kill the marauder

[lyric isle]

nope
ive just been dazing with SSG and trying to get a hit with ballista
if no ballista i just use SSG again

it works

[slow sigil]

better to use ballista

[keen rune]

On what dificulty are you playing on

[slow sigil]

wait no it's davoth uhhhhh nvm

[lyric isle]

UV

[keen rune]

Or crucible

[slow sigil]

against davoth? lol

[keen rune]

The first time you play?

[keen rune]

No marauder

[lyric isle]

yep
i played DOOM16 on UV too and beat it

[slow sigil]

still lol

[keen rune]

Damn

[keen rune]

Killing an marauder with the crucible is ez

Idk why people think you cant do it

[slow sigil]

oh no you can

[keen rune]

Yeah ik

[slow sigil]

but it's just kinda dumb cause of the timing which is more luck then antyhing

[keen rune]

Nah

[slow sigil]

and crucible is cringe anyways

[lyric lodge]

When the fuck could you do that

[keen rune]

I only use it really in the icon of sin fight

[keen rune]

Well just have it in your hands and wait for his eyes to glow and dash in while you swing your sword

[lyric lodge]

Damn

[keen rune]

But i dont really do it bc i like to just fight him

[wary badger]

hellow fellow slayers would you like condenced doom lore

[lyric isle]

ok

[wary badger]

unfortunately I have to leave this tavern as a quest has popped up

[lyric isle]

rip

[sacred dirge]

[lyric isle]

i managed to crash the game while glory killing a cacodemon lmao

[lapis saddle]

I’ve played this game through at least a half dozen times (probably a full dozen), beaten TAG 1 and most of TAG 2, and played a bit of Horde mode, and I’m still not sure if the Doom Blade is sliding in and out of a sheath or if it’s some kind of telescoping blade

[shell sparrow]

Think of it as a lightsaber
It ignites
And since the energy can be a solid it holds it's select crucible shape
Like the sentinel spears or the hammer

More like the darksaber tbh

[slow sigil]

doomblade, not the crucible

[shell sparrow]

Ooh the blade thing mb

[slow sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896461823786762300/1095725195047743658/latest.png
do you see those ridges? they fold into each other

like those toy lightsabers but steel instead of plastic

[shell sparrow]

It'd be more telescopic, but eyeglass like

[covert oar]

guys i can’t do the second trial in ancient gods level 2

[sacred dirge]

You can get some pretty great replicas these days

[lyric isle]

how do i kill a doom hunter in under 14 seconds while a pain elemental & cacodemon try to end me my shotgun ammo is gone and i dont have BFG ammo????

thats the secret encounter of taras nabad

[shell sparrow]

I used the ballista and freeze grenades, there's also a fodder enemy that spawns if you have chainsaw ammo

[lyric isle]

i exagerrated the time limit
its 34 seconds

sorry bout that

[lyric isle]

yea i need to get to it without getting to 1 HP from the 3 that are ganging up on me

so i can try something
chainsaw the zombie
shotgun grenade caco & glory kill it
microwave pain elemental
and pray that i can kill doom hunter in time

[shell sparrow]

Ballista the pain elemental and try using the chaingun on the hunter

[lyric isle]

k

[dull herald]

arbalest mod against both the caco and pain (gets rid of them both really quick)
Ice bomb + double bloodpunch on the doom hunter followed by spam of your choice whether that be ssg+bal, pb+rl, whatever.

[chrome wren]

ok so im playing on nightmare for the first time

definitely a whole lot less bullshit than 2016's nightmare was

[dull herald]

true

[slow sigil]

yeah no instakill so it's quite handy

[lyric isle]

problem is i dont have double blood punch somehow
so if i wanted to do 2 blood punches id need to keep them alive, glory kill one, blood punch, glory kill the other, and blood punch again
but by then i would have already died or the ice wore out

i could try arbalest on the two tho

[dull herald]

no siphon grenade + equipment power rune though 😭

[lyric isle]

rip

[dull herald]

my mistake
if it helps, the arbalest explosion's blast radius damage staggers the cacodemon (not direct hit)

buuuut you could also just sticky bomb (though its much quicker to kill him through other means)

[slow sigil]

arbalest the caco and PE, freeze the dh and BP then ssg and then lock on

[dull herald]

i forgot lock on was a thing- goes to show how i never used it 🤭🤭

[lyric isle]

well
i failed to pull that off quick enough
rip

[slow sigil]

just try again

[lyric isle]

yea
also for some reason

the only way im somehow able to get the dh out of his wheelchair is with sticky bombs??
did i play too much horde mode?

[slow sigil]

should be abel to break him with other things

[dull herald]

he gets off from damage to his sled thats it

[slow sigil]

stickies somehow damage him through his shield though but you arent supposed to shoot his shield

[lyric isle]

yea i know
its just that i seem to use stickies best on him

[dull herald]

you could just
...freeze, bp, and ssg

[young mango]

Well that’s a new way of phrasing it

Calling it his “wheelchair” rofl

[shy scroll]

any tips for master levels (nightmare)? I just cant complete the mars core level

[young mango]

Well what are you struggling on

[shy scroll]

the second checkpoint on mars core where they spawn 20 pinkies

but to be honest its the whole level, I die 30 times to complete one checkpoint

[young mango]

Ice bomb flame belch it’ll refill your blood punch while you’re doing it, as well as staying aerial outside of that, using weapons with good splash damage like sticky bombs and rockets helps too

[shy scroll]

yes exactly this is my problem... How do people on youtube move so well? is there a gamemode to practice moving around?

[young mango]

Use meathook

[shy scroll]

ill change my bind and use it more see how it ends

[white sonnet]

The irony in Michael Jordan struggling to stay aerial

https://tenor.com/view/108tourney-fromthe108-michael-jordan-air-jordan-mj-gif-25132279

[sacred dirge]

[umbral dew]

what will the next doom game will be

[sacred dirge]

You play as mj and you just jump on demons like you're Mario

[umbral dew]

💀

[sacred dirge]

What? Bouncing a rubber ball around is pure doom hater

[chrome wren]

i got past the mancubus pit in the 3rd level, am i doing decently for a first time nightmare player

and the game glitched out and thought i fell out of bounds in the moving platforms in the next room

hm

[young mango]

Pretty much the hardest part of your nightmare run is over

[chrome wren]

dont expect a response within less than 1 minute

not everyone here is terminally online 24/7

as for your issue, im not sure how to help with the weapon swapping

[chrome wren]

huh what happened to all the messages

[shell sparrow]

[chrome wren]

anyways doom eternal nightmare isnt as bad as expected

had a rough start but thats because i had to switch some settings around and get used to the small differences

[vague ore]

@azure oriole how does one get BROOTAL DEWM mod?

[jolly kernel]

man, the master levels sure are brutal

locking you in a tiny area with 2 Tyrants, some Carcasses and a Doom Hunter, oh my!

but they are also fair, and I think they are good for improving myself at the game

[misty ridge]

And then on Mars Core level it’s 3 Archvilles in tight tunnel

[jolly kernel]

💀

[misty ridge]

Master levels are so addictive to play on nightmare if you good enough

It’s just eternal rip and tear

[jolly kernel]

I’m playing master level super gore nest rn on ultra-violence

[misty ridge]

I’m trying to do it on nightmare without super weapons

Honestly I just forget about them, but let’s say it is a challenge

[spark coral]

i just unlocked the unmakyr gun !

[full bone]

Last couple days I keep seeing listings and pictures of guitars that have white bodies with gold on the extra bits
And I'm just thinking
Someone should make an Urdak-themed guitar
....
And then maybe they should give it to me
Because there's no way I could actually afford it 😆

[spark coral]

does some one wanna pllay ?

[misty ridge]

Which platform?

[spark coral]

me too

[spark coral]

ps5

[misty ridge]

Nah, I’m ps4

Is it?

I thought it’s not

[spark coral]

seski12

[misty ridge]

Mine is Hacki_Stas , try to add and invite me to game

[spark coral]

give yours it will be more simple

vc ?

ok go in voice 1

[misty ridge]

Got that

Try to invite, I hope it works

Oh, probably it is, so you can play a bit, I need to go buy myself some bread

I’ll get back soon

[chrome wren]

im seeing a bunch of deleted messages again

the hell is happening now

[sacred dirge]

Drama

[misty ridge]

I just left for literally 10 min and the guy is banned

Literally drama

[quaint basin]

Hello?

[covert oar]

istg if someone brings up that “all bc his bunny died doom slayer did all this” once more

[quaint basin]

What's going on?

[jolly kernel]

finally finished the Master Level Super Gore Nest

man, it was so fucking brutal

the last part before escaping is pure hardness

[misty ridge]

With 2 or 3 Archvilles and Cyber demons?

[jolly kernel]

yes

[misty ridge]

Doing it without bfg or unmaykr will not so easy, huh

Actually I just recently realized how good unmaykr is against archville

You don’t waste full bfg on the and you can immediately kill him

[jolly kernel]

the master level super gore nest gave me more trouble than the entire base campaign

[misty ridge]

Try beating Taras Nabad master

Pure madness

[jolly kernel]

ngl this level actually tired me from all the madness

I genuinely couldn't tell wtf was going on sometimes

[brittle grove]

anybody have any keybind suggestion's i could use to help me get better at quick switching?

[lyric isle]

Its sad to see that i missed out on getting the doom franchise bundle for 30 dollars on steam while it was on sale

[slow sigil]

There will be another one next sale probably

[lapis axle]

Ok 👌 my level (don’t laugh) is 47 and I just obtained my crucible back and am going to Nervodkla on Hurt Me Plenty

I wish I could do Doom 2008 and Doom Eternal back to back on Ultra-Nightmare to completion 😁

[slow sigil]

Level is literally nothing

[lapis axle]

Well I meant my level as far as I am in the game

Hurt Me Plenty is still difficult for me

[slow sigil]

There arent 47 playable levels

[lapis axle]

Ok no I know

My level is 47 but I meant don’t laugh at my place in the game 😂

By comparison to where I want to be

[slow sigil]

Still

Level is nothing
I'm technically level 2

[lapis axle]

Which is defeating Doom og and Eternal on Ultra-Nightmare without dying once back to back to completion

Level 2 means you haven’t been playing very long am I right?

[slow sigil]

It means i have redownloaded it via steam instead of bethesda launcher

[lapis axle]

Right right

Ok. That’s what I kinda figured you were going 😂

[slow sigil]

Doomlevel doesnt save on your bethesda account cause it does nothing anyways lmfao

[lapis axle]

Well I like the skins I get

[slow sigil]

You get no skin related to your level

It does nothing except minor visual changes

[chrome wren]

yeah uh

i got to the cafe in the ARC level and it's even harder

[jolly kernel]

honestly, in the Master Level Super Gore Nest, I'm surprised the ''eyes and hands uncontrollably moving due to stress'' issue I sometimes have only happened once

[chrome wren]

im finally fucking done with the cafe after liuike 20 dewath

my right hjadn is fucking tinglying and im lightehaded

[azure forum]

Is it your first time playing it?

[chrome wren]

no

far from the first playing the game in general, but its my first time playing doom eternal on nightmare

[azure forum]

Use the power up that you get in that arena and try to maximize its value

[chrome wren]

i have

[azure forum]

You can clear most of the arena with it

[chrome wren]

i've gotten past it, kinda late for tips now

[azure forum]

Yep but it will be helpful for next time.

[chrome wren]

the powerup only lasts for like half of the fight and i forgot to get the glory kill range extension rune as well

[azure forum]

I am not sure if you can use the glory kill runes with it. I never do, but if you can, you could combine it to be able to hit from further away with it and kill faster

[chrome wren]

you can

i've switched to the glory kill range rune specifically for the fight the last time i played the game on UV

[viral slate]

Since quakecon 2023 is now a thing is doom eternal gonna have a new quakecon reskin?

[young mango]

No lol

When quakecon 2022 rolled around they just rereleased the quakecon 2020 one

So I’d be really surprised if they did

[viral slate]

Damn

Because I don't got any of them

[young mango]

Well they’re going to rerelease it at minimum I hope

[sacred dirge]

Probably be a title if we re lucky

[chrome wren]

ok so i beat the gladiator

was way easier and slower than i expected

it was just mostly me and the gladiator meandering around until the shield made a facial expression and i dashed

[ornate reef]

Anyone else disappointed the Hell Razer didn't return?

[turbid jetty]

no

[azure forum]

Nah son

[chrome wren]

honestly, no

its kinda weird that its not present in doom eternal while the shadow imp returned, but eh

[last fiber]

I cant get the zombie slayer skin for my main account

[dull herald]

thats unfortunate i think

no gougaru skin 😭

[azure oriole]

So a throwback skin of Crash from Quake III: Arena.

[warped sage]

The return of Crash.

[sleek socket]

Blep, ive beaten the main game of doom eternal, gonna replay it with a higher difficulty

[digital pelican]

I like the bfg more than the unmayker

[blissful moth]

Hi. Why I cannot download Doom Eternal for free if it's free for PS Plus extra members?

Or isn't released yet?

[digital pelican]

It's realised

Released

[blissful moth]

Sounds nice. A double PS Plus extra new games this months

[azure oriole]

TAG has some of the best songs in the game though.

[azure oriole]

immora super heavy battle

[tropic mesa]

chaingun intensifies

[regal galleon]

For the past year I thought UAC Atlantic was Atlantia

[sacred dirge]

[acoustic lark]

[misty ridge]

It will be available in ps+ extra from 18 April

[misty ridge]

.

Missed the answer button

As well as all other games in ps+ deluxe or premium

[jolly kernel]

which levels in the game ever made you guys feel exhausted when you completed them?

[azure forum]

Taras nabad master level probably. It is still super fun though

[azure oriole]

So, yesterday when I was playing doom tag 1, finally beat UAC atlantica and the bit that pissed me off was the part with the archvile on the balcony, but the double marauder fight really wasn't that bad, as soon as I saw 2 tyrants I didn't really have much of a problem but it did concern me

[azure oriole]

My first ever mastery completion which was fairly recent. Super Gore Nest mastery, and I still need to work on my techniques really but I managed it and it was a nightmare

Has anyone got any tips for staying in the air using the meathook and dash double jump thingy? 😂

Please @ me if anyone is replying to anything, I'm gonna get on doom

[jaunty vapor]

Mars Core ML. The last fight in particular just drones on.

[azure oriole]

Thank god I got the dlcs

[trail kestrel]

Hello. I download and finished the game with torrent and deleted it. Because I liked it so much, I bought it and downloaded it again, but the save file of the game I downloaded before is still i my pc. I cannot change the save file because I want to play as NG+. How do I find this file?

[azure oriole]

There's no ng plus

Pretty sure it's gone

[jolly kernel]

man, since the Super Gore Nest master level tired me when I finished it, I'm pretty sure the other master levels are even worse

by tired, I mean literally tired, not being bored

[misty ridge]

Try finishing master levels on nightmare classic mode

Even more tiring

Beating shit out of tyrant with just a combat shotgun

[jolly kernel]

💀

no way I would do that

[trail kestrel]

i know but i want to play again with skills and guns

but i couldnt find the files

[azure oriole]

Play master legs rhen

Levels I mean

[trail kestrel]

ill change files

how can i find

i dont want master levels

[azure oriole]

Why

[trail kestrel]

because i need to finish game from the start no weapon no skills

[azure oriole]

So start a new save

[trail kestrel]

i have to

[azure oriole]

Just start a new one then if you're so hellbent on it

[trail kestrel]

never mind bro

i couldnt explain myself

[azure oriole]

Uh huh

[lyric isle]

so i manage to kill the caco and pain elemental
and get the doom hunter to glory kill state
but i was not fast enough to glory kill him

[chrome wren]

are you doing the secret encounter in taras nabad?

[lyric isle]

yep

[sacred dirge]

There is invasion now though ( mods) lol

[chrome wren]

is urdak the 11th or 12th level?

i cant remember

[azure oriole]

12

[chrome wren]

damn so im actually pretty close to finishing the nightmare run

[azure oriole]

13 levels in da game...urdak second to last....therefore it's 12

I know maths oh so well

[chrome wren]

yeah i know theres 13 levels

[azure oriole]

i hope next game has more levels

It's gonna have sk many

So so many

most of them i hope are in hell cuz im tired of roaming uac's property

Yeah those guys have boring levels

Except for the water one that one is kinda cool I think

[azure oriole]

at least 2016 had 4 levels in hell
eternal has like 2

[azure oriole]

atlantica facility? ye

[merry gazelle]

Having Super Shotgun and and Ballista moved to Z and X hotkeys seems optimal for me

[jolly kernel]

it’s funny that even though the base DE campaign has the same amount of levels as 2016, Eternal’s levels have more stuff and are longer in comparison

I started to use the rocket launcher and man, it’s so damn effective

I use it to kill multiple enemies set on fire with the flame belch at once, and also use it on stronger demons, though I usually use lock-on

lock on is so damn effective. every medium-tier demon up to an Arachnotron and Dread Knight die if all rockets hit

[slow sigil]

"if"
as if it can miss

[jolly kernel]

mayhaps there’s a chance a demon standing on the targeted demon’s way would get hit instead

[slow sigil]

such a low chance if you simply dont shoot it when that can happen lmfao

[azure oriole]

carcass

[jolly kernel]

I fucking hate those enemies

[slow sigil]

that's the point yeah

[sacred dirge]

Almost like people asked for stuff in the sequel and they listened. Rare

[azure oriole]

That's why I'd software sk cool.... despite all he corporate stuff with Marty man they're still good I think

[sacred dirge]

Absolutely

[chrome wren]

im finally fucking done with the khan maykr fight holy shit

[azure oriole]

4 and a half in Eternal.

-Half of Exultia
-Nekravol 1
-Nekravol 2
-Blood Swamps
-Immora

[slow sigil]

dark lord also for 3 fases

so that's 5,16

[azure oriole]

That's hell on earf for two phases

[slow sigil]

hell on earth isnt in hell itself

[azure oriole]

But the only other place is the place that doesn't even look like hell

[slow sigil]

oh no! hell is a varied place and isnt a monotone red-brown landscape!

[azure oriole]

oh ive always thought of the second half of exultia as destroyed earth like hell on earth
and without counting the dlcs the base game still has like 3

Ph right I forgot

[young mango]

Levels in doom eternal:
Base campaign:
Earth
Argent D’nur/Hell
Earth
Earth
Earth
Earth
Mars
Sentinel prime
Argent D’nur
Hell
Hell
Urdak
Earth
TAG1:
Earth
Hell
Urdak
TAG2:
Argent D’nur
Earth
Hell

[azure oriole]

That is way too many levels

4 earth's back to back??? No..n

[young mango]

Technically

Cultist base
Doom hunter base
Super gore nest
Arc complex

[jolly kernel]

Wait wait wait

I don’t remember the first half of the second level being argent d nur

[young mango]

Exultia is in argent d’nur

Just like how Taras Nabad is part of argent d’nur

[jolly kernel]

too lazy to read lore lmao

[azure oriole]

wow thats crazy

[jolly kernel]

I always care about the gameplay first

in my first playthrough of DE, I actually skipped every cutscene

[sacred dirge]

I mean it's doom. That's fine

[jolly kernel]

in fact, in any game that has skippable cutscenes, I always skip them even if it’s my first time playing a game

[azure oriole]

L

[slow sigil]

I'm replaying it and i skip it cause the cutscenes are still engrained in my mind

Also god early game is sluggish

[young mango]

This is so funny because who it’s coming from

[jolly kernel]

the first 3 levels are absolutely relentless

you don’t have much upgrades and arenas generally are cramped

[slow sigil]

Relentless mostly cause it's sluggish

Not many weapons, no movement (not even simply air control), slow cooldowns and almost no extra stuff

[jolly kernel]

yeah

[slow sigil]

I only died once or twice in the first two levels combined but sheez the slowness

[azure oriole]

tbh the first two levels arent that bad its cultist base and one specific arena in it that is the mancubus pit

[jolly kernel]

Cultist Base gives me more trouble than any other level

[chrome wren]

i am now on the final boss

[slow sigil]

First two are way more sluggish

CB is when you finally catch some steam

[azure oriole]

yea

[chrome wren]

the mancubus pit sucks but i've beaten it within only 2 deaths, compared to multiple other spots in the game like the cafe where i died like 20 times

[slow sigil]

Get to complete your movement kit, second rune, i thought 2 crystals?

[chrome wren]

also, during the entirety of my nightmare run, i never used air control

[azure oriole]

you are one crazy person

[young mango]

Air control certainly isn’t a necessity but it makes things far easier

[azure oriole]

also whats that time slow down rune

[young mango]

Chrono strike

[slow sigil]

If you always jump (like me) it is almost needed lol

[jolly kernel]

honestly, in the first 2 levels, the game doesn’t feel much different from 2016 since you don’t have many of the core new features

[chrome wren]

who needs air control when you can just meat hook

[young mango]

Oh yes I do but I’m just saying perhaps runes are often taken for granted

[azure oriole]

doom 2016 is definitely harder in the first three levels

[slow sigil]

Tbf it should definitely be basekit

[young mango]

This argument could be made for multiple things, who needs meathook when you have ballista boost and etc

But all of them are still integral to combat

[azure oriole]

We need meat hook because it’s fucking awesome

[merry gazelle]

I like that with runes you can customize your personal challenges

[chrome wren]

anyways i didnt use air control because i did fine in doom 2016 UV without it and i figured it was just a huge crutch

and i got punched back to mars by the icon of sin, huh

[jolly kernel]

well to me, air control is an essential rune, movement in the air feels janky otherwise

[chrome wren]

fuck

i died in phase 1 when the icon of sin literally didnt have any visible bit of health left in his health bar

i probably should equip saving throw

[azure oriole]

honedtly the only thing hard about that fight are the other demons

icon of sin himself doesnt do much

[chrome wren]

and im dead already because a baron immediately spawned and got on my ass

[vale shard]

[sacred dirge]

Ass got baroned

[azure oriole]

Baron of Hell my beloved

[robust portal]

[chrome wren]

ok now barons are being spammed at me

and no matter how quickly i try to crucible them, i take a billion damage

[strange gale]

nothing jank about it, it's just that making mistakes in the air actually means something in that context

[chrome wren]

i got past the first phase

[lapis axle]

Getting all my empyrean keys before going to Nekralva

🔥🔥🔥

[chrome wren]

ok now the game is only spamming dread knights with whiplashes

[strange gale]

that's how the icon summons work yeah

[chrome wren]

no i meant the game spawned only that combination like 8 times in a row

[chrome wren]

IM FINALLY FUCKING DONE

god im so fucking exhausted and lightheaded

[strange gale]

yeah that's what it does, it rolls the dice a couple times during the fight to decide what 2 enemies to spam next

[chrome wren]

if i ever do the dlcs, they'll probably be on UV

the dlcs on nightmare sounds absolutely asinine

[broken forum]

What difficulty

From context I will assume it’s nightmare

[frank ridge]

what is the worst enemy type (An enemy the game could live without)

for me it is the shield soldiers and their yellow variant

[azure oriole]

i would say whiplash but carcasses are just annoying

[frank ridge]

the guys who creates the barriers?

[azure oriole]

yes

[azure forum]

Carcasses or Prowlers tbh

[lapis saddle]

Carcasses

[frank ridge]

I feel like they exist so that plasma gun could have a purpose

[merry gazelle]

Imps kinda don't serve a purpose in Eternal compared to 2016

[azure forum]

Nah, spirits are for that

[azure oriole]

nah we have shielded soldiers for that

[lapis saddle]

Soldiers are great for plasma gun use

[azure oriole]

imps can still kick your ass in later levels in doom 2016 but in eternal theyre like meh

[frank ridge]

I am pretty sure that is applied to every enemy with an intentional weakness to plasma gun

[azure forum]

Gargoyles take that spot in eternal

[azure oriole]

yes

[lapis saddle]

Eternal imps basically exist to be a chump demon. You can add them to a fight to make things slightly harder but just slightly. That’s also their main role in the original Doom and Doom 2

[azure oriole]

They’re just slightly more dangerous fodder really

Keep you on your toes

[frank ridge]

tbh I feel like heavy cannon should've been precision bolt by default (also I ahve already forgotten the names of the weapon attachments)

[lapis saddle]

I wish that Precision Bolt worked like the 2016 scope where it improves accuracy but doesn’t add damage or anything

[azure oriole]

then we would have one mod less
also you get pb very early so why does it even matter

[merry gazelle]

That's why I mention you could remove Imps, and pretty much nothing is lost in Eternal haha, aside from their great model design

[frank ridge]

good, one mod less is good, remove the bloat

[azure oriole]

The scope was pretty forgettable in 2016

I always got the missile attachments

[azure oriole]

lol

[frank ridge]

plasma rifle should have a use other than countering enemies designed for plasma rifle

[lapis saddle]

The precision cannon actively makes the game worse by existing imo

[azure oriole]

yep micro missiles better in every way

but wheb you get devastator rounds tact scope become really powerful

still would choose mm

What’s the problem with the precision bolt anyways

[frank ridge]

maybe plasma rifle should have the slight homing that micro missiles have and should be used as a long range rapid gun with chaingun as it's closer range counterpart

[azure oriole]

same damage just zoomed in

[frank ridge]

in doom eternal, it one shots fodder and weakpoints and can be used as an inbetween for quickswapping

[azure oriole]

That’s a problem?

[lapis saddle]

Precision bold basically reinforces the quickswap bs that already has more impact on combat than it should.

[frank ridge]

tbh quickswapping is very fun

[azure oriole]

if youre talking about d2016, its just useless until mastery

[frank ridge]

in doom 2016, quickswapping does exist (and had less restrictions iirc) but I don't think anyone took notice of it

[lapis saddle]

If quickswapping didn’t make the automatic weapons borderline obsolete by taking away the SSG and ballista’s main drawback, I wouldn’t mind so much

[frank ridge]

so in doom eternal, you could do the same and just don't notice quickswapping

[azure oriole]

id you can quickswap fast in 2016 you badically become unkillable

Hello

Just don’t abuse quickswapping

Which Doom should I start with?

[frank ridge]

mighty doom

[azure oriole]

?

[frank ridge]

like I said-

[lapis saddle]

I’m of the opinion that the best Doom entry point is the original

[jolly kernel]

yeah, I rarely use the plasma gun and chaingun

[cedar scroll]

i wonder what the hardest monster is excluding bosses and such

[frank ridge]

chaingun is good for the shield, and probably only the shield

[azure oriole]

I've played that

[azure oriole]

im gonna be based
start with 2016

[jolly kernel]

and I almost always use the heavy cannon as a sniper more than a machine gun

[azure oriole]

Ok, thanks

it is not too fast and still feels like a modern shooter

[frank ridge]

the machine gun title belongs to chaingun

[lapis saddle]

I basically try to not use precision bolt at all because I want the assault rifle to actually be an assault rifle

[azure oriole]

Usually starting with the first game in a series is the best

[merry gazelle]

Personally I'd give scope a charge time

[lapis saddle]

Giving the scope a charge time wou also work

[azure oriole]

Same thing with fallout. Only problem is if you can even play it, but doom has gotten alot of ports.

[frank ridge]

question: why use the assault rifle as an assault rifle when the chaingun fills the role as a ranged weapon better

[frank ridge]

in a fast paced game? nah

[lapis saddle]

More accurate. Also explosive rounds are neat

[jolly kernel]

even though people say each weapon in DE has a purpose, that is downplayed by constantly quick swapping between slow-firing weapons

[sly forge]

Soooo is there a spoiler protocol I need to follow for talking about, like, end of main campaign stuff?

[frank ridge]

meh I don't rely on accuracy much because most weapons don't really depend on it, not to mention the hitbox sizes on demons are beeg

[azure oriole]

nah lol game is old

[frank ridge]

at this point it's like a 3 year game

[jolly kernel]

I wouldn't be surprised if id made the Spirits only vulnerable to the microwave beam just so the plasma rifle can have some use

[sly forge]

Okay cool. Anyway, I do not like the Icon of Sin fight

[lapis saddle]

That’s fair

[azure oriole]

ye

[frank ridge]

I think that was the point also probably to add a risk to removing spirits

[lapis saddle]

At least it’s an improvement on the original Icon

[sly forge]

Like after all the cool bosses that were thrown at me, all I get is another damn bullet sponge?

One that flings me five different directions with his fist for some reason

[frank ridge]

the jank

[merry gazelle]

Microwave Beam just takes too much ammo sadly

[azure oriole]

doom hunter fight is more enjoyable

[lapis saddle]

The original Icon was hilariously bad so this one being kinda meh is still an improvement

[frank ridge]

I think it would be better if bosses constantly try to charge at you and assault you, to keep the player on their toes of course

[azure oriole]

i think gladiator is a solid one

[sly forge]

I’d rather fight two Marauders at once than fight the Icon of Sin again

[jolly kernel]

I mean, you are literally just shooting at a wall

[azure oriole]

2016's mastermind can dash at you

[lapis saddle]

Good news: The DLC actually has a double Marauder fight

[sacred dirge]

At least that should be a aggression buff for un instead of the un aggression buff being tied to nightmare

[azure oriole]

i had a harder time with 2016 bosses than eternal except for gladiator that one is fun

Bosses are really hit or miss in doom

[sly forge]

I feel like the game’s bosses are kinda nerfed in terms of quality because of how its health and ammo generation works

[lapis saddle]

And a buff totem marauder fight for good measure

Bosses have never been Doom’s strong suit

[frank ridge]

I also think it could be a good opportunity to teach some movement

[azure oriole]

Doom 2016 had one below average boss, one mid boss, and one really good boss

og doom cyberdemon

[jolly kernel]

first time I encountered 2 Marauders in SGN ML I went ''holy shit''

[azure oriole]

what is the really good boss

Cyber demon

[azure oriole]

true

[sly forge]

FPSs in general tend to have a mixed bag of boss quality

[lapis saddle]

2016 bosses were all pretty neat

[frank ridge]

something as simple as "if you jump then ballista, you can gain speed"

[azure oriole]

I didn’t care for the spider mastermind or the hell guardians

hell guardians are very bad

forgettable fight honestly

The spider mastermind had a really cool design going for it at least the Hell Guardians were boring visually

[glass totem]

Well, I'm a hypocrite. I said I would never try Ultra Nightmare mode. I just did. Beat level 1.

[sly forge]

A game that does FPS bosses right IMO is the game that led me to Doom in the first place. I feel like y’all can take a guess

[lapis saddle]

Hell guardians were definitely the weakest boss, but I think they’re still fine overall

[azure oriole]

Still better than Doom 1 spider mastermind though

[jolly kernel]

in regards to Doom 3 bosses, I think Guardian Of Hell, Sabaoth and the ROE Hunters are good

[azure oriole]

Yeah they’re definitely not terrible

[merry gazelle]

Yeah just try to slow play it and not risky

[azure oriole]

Doom 3 had some solid boss encounters

[frank ridge]

I wish I could play this game again

[glass totem]

Had a couple close calls though… :/

[azure oriole]

Cyber demon was underwhelming but you take what you can get

[sly forge]

Okay so no guesses lmao. I’m referring to Ultrakill

Again it’s not really comparable because of how differently their ammo and healing work but I still love the bosses in that game

[lapis saddle]

Ultrakill bosses are pretty good

[azure oriole]

ultrakill had really good bosses yes
especially the second v2 fight

[jolly kernel]

out of all the Doom 3 bosses, I think Maledict is the most challenging

the meteor storm attack, oh dear

[random vault]

JUDGEMENT

[sly forge]

DIE

[azure oriole]

I will desrroy you machine

[random vault]

WEAK

[frank ridge]

yeah I think the secret could be how the game confines you to a limited space

[sly forge]

Regarding Ultrakill or Doom?

[frank ridge]

ultrakill

[azure oriole]

so does the doom 2016 bosses
they just need more aggression

[lapis saddle]

I personally find the bosses very hard already

[sly forge]

The main thing is that in Ultrakill you heal via blood and have infinite ammo, so bosses can be a more finely tuned one-on-one experience

[azure oriole]

and they hit hard

[sly forge]

While in Doom ammo and health require killing enemies, so bosses are always surrounded by fodder

[frank ridge]

icon of sin could be comparable to corpse of minos

[lapis saddle]

Ultrakill borrows a lot from Devil May Cry and that’s largely why its bosses work

[sly forge]

But again, you can heal off of Minos. The Icon of Sin just throws enemies at you

[frank ridge]

also corpse of minos isn't exactly supposed to be a boss boss, it's more as an appetizer and a cool looking boss fight

[sly forge]

A spectacle boss, yeah

[frank ridge]

while icon of sin is the final boss so there is more standards on it

[sly forge]

I feel like the Icon of Sin should also be, like, 25% less tanky, because it takes soooooo long to kill him

[frank ridge]

also another problem with the bosses in doom eternal is how gimmicky they are

[random vault]

me waiting for the doom eternal update where i can parry his fists

[lapis saddle]

What if the Icon had taken a page from Bayonetta and he was himself the level and you have to fight demons while climbing up him and the fight is over when you reach his head? This would let the fight feel like an extension of the normal gameplay without being a slog or making the boss himself feel extraneous

[sly forge]

I honestly thought that the fight would be that

But no, I get to play target practice in a mosh pit

[frank ridge]

the level design would look bare bones though

literally just their skin, so a brown would be the main color palate

[sly forge]

With their current design, yeah, it’d look samey. Solution: change their design

[frank ridge]

Better solution, instead of climbing up him from the outside, how about from the inside

[random vault]

spoony join vc

[lapis saddle]

You could tweak the Icon’s appearance to make it work though. In particular you could have pieces of buildings stuck onto him

[sly forge]

All of these ideas are better than what the fight actually was

[frank ridge]

wait that's just ultrakil-

tbh layer 3 of ultrakill was very cool so I won't complain even if it's a repeated idea

problem about the idea of climbing up the icon of sin from the outside: logic states that the boss could just roll around on their back to make you fall off (I imagine that it would be funny though)

[sly forge]

Logic tends to be overruled by the Rule of Cool ™️

[glass totem]

As far as I’m concerned, using Plasma rifle a lot, mastering SSG ASAP, and BFG or using the crucible on Arch Viles and Tyrants makes Ultra Nightmare a bit easier. Also Cultist base will be a literal ultra nightmare.

[frank ridge]

what if the icon of sin was only the skeleton and you traverse through their skeletal system

[sly forge]

Y’know I was really considering trying an Ultra Nightmare run, but after the Icon of Sin I’m not sure

Because I hate the idea of dying to his bullshit and having to go all the way back

[lapis saddle]

Ultra Nightmare isn’t worth it imo

Just in general.

[sly forge]

It’s like climbing a mountain of broken glass to reach the undercooked piece of chicken at the top

[glass totem]

Ultra Nightmare feels more like an arcade mode to see how far you can make it without dying.

[sly forge]

It’s worth it to me, simply because I really enjoy challenging myself in video games

[lapis saddle]

I understand that, but it’s hard in a way that just isn’t interesting

[glass totem]

The only real reward for beating UN is bragging rights.

[sly forge]

It would also get me a cool tattoo probably

[lapis saddle]

I wish they’d done something like original Doom nightmare like making enemies stronger or reduced loot from chainsaw kills or something along those lines

[sly forge]

Stat changes alone are kinda boring imo

[lapis saddle]

I don’t mean stat changes

I mean making them more aggressive or giving demons regenerating health. That last one in particular is in line with how classic Doom nightmare tends to punish players for wasting time completing the level

[cloud anvil]

I don't care if using the Atlan goes against the lore and breaks the gameplay loop and shit, I want the Pacific Rim kaiju mech fight I was cheated out of

why the fuck is the Atlan in the FOD if it serves literally no purpose in the story whatsoever

[versed lily]

anyone wanna do some battlemode achievments together?

[sly forge]

Unless you have it on Switch, I don’t think I could

[versed lily]

ah yeah damn i dont think theres cross play

[median badger]

i got doom eternal on the switch

[azure forum]

Same here son

[median badger]

its good for me

i tried doom eternal on xbox

not good tbh

[azure forum]

I dont mind it on switch except that the joycons suck

[median badger]

eh

im on urdak

[nocturne lynx]

Yeah there isn’t.

[versed lily]

damb, i just wanna get these slayer milestones finished then be done with battlemode xD

[nocturne lynx]

If it makes you feel better I still have 5 Battlemode milestones that I never got done and aside from Argentas Paladi are the only milestones that I have left.

[azure forum]

Depending on the platform, good luck finding people that want to play just for milestones.

[nocturne lynx]

I prefer the Sanctum podium over the one you get for that milestone anyway.

[nocturne lynx]

You’re gonna have massive struggles on that regardless of platform.

[versed lily]

yeah ik, thats why im asking here lol, hoping a pc player has a spare 20 mins 😛

[azure forum]

Just play the game. If you get the milestones, good, if not, have fun at least.

[nocturne lynx]

Xbox is the only platform that’s probably somewhat active but most of those players are casual and will absolutely not help with boosting the milestones.

[azure forum]

I'm only missing 1 battlemode milestone unfortunately

[versed lily]

yeah ive enjoyed the game for a couple hundred hrs! Just trying to boost these milestones cause i dont really enjoy slayer in battlemode

[merry gazelle]

Slayers have to be really good these days to win

[azure forum]

I mean, if you find two good demons, yes

[sly forge]

I only have it on Switch because I have nothing else lol

[azure forum]

All good, switch has some good games besides eternal anyways. The game runs fine as well, so you can definitely have fun with it.

[sly forge]

Ye, I’ve had fun with it

Except for the final boss

[frank ridge]

rodark, what platform do you use for doom eternal

[azure forum]

Switch and PC

[digital pelican]

The mayker is the most annoying boss

the boss which has white armor

[limpid lichen]

Hello everyone if I bought the year one pass that includes both the base game and the dlc can I still get the demonic skin for doom guy

[nocturne lynx]

Lock-On exists.

Davoth meanwhile is just a waiting game.

[nocturne lynx]

You mean the fire skin? That’s exclusive to the Deluxe Edition.

[frank ridge]

now that I think about it, I think the downfall of eternal's bosses is the movement

in the game, you're always supposed to be on the move from the enemies constantly

but the bosses ask for the opposite

[limpid lichen]

So I would have to buy the game again?

[nocturne lynx]

If you have the base game already, yes. I’d recommend you don’t because that would be a rip-off.

[azure oriole]

There’s probably a deluxe upgrade available

[nocturne lynx]

Nope. Deluxe is just base game + Year 1 Pass.

[azure oriole]

Rip

[limpid lichen]

Nooooooo

[azure oriole]

God of War 3 made it work with Cronos

[haughty parcel]

Are all the doom games on switch?

Ok I looked

It seems they have everything except for Doom II

[azure oriole]

Switch has dook 2

[haughty parcel]

It does?

oh yeah youre right it does

For some reason it wasn't on the listing

[sly forge]

I mean you can also just get Eternal and get Doom 1 & 2 along with it for free

[haughty parcel]

I'd rather just have the standalone games

Yeah I can load doom eternal on my computer and play doom 1 and 2 but at the same time I'm still running doom eternal

My computer is doing a lot of unnecessary work and generating waste heat just to run games from the 1990s

Plus can you even mod them in eternal

[sly forge]

Fair points

[limpid lichen]

You can mod the 1990s dooms

Heavily

[azure oriole]

This is common knowledge

[uneven turtle]

wait you can mod the classic doom games in eternal

[frank ridge]

just grab the wad files and use them in a source port like chocolate doom

[signal spear]

02.03.23 - my last running DE...

Time to pain

Oh yes. After 474h i dont have 2 achievements.

[strange gale]

that's crazy bro

[signal spear]

fuck battlemode

[dull herald]

😮😮

[strange gale]

stunning and brave statement

[azure oriole]

What do guys thing is better horde or battle mode

[lyric lodge]

prob horde because i dont have to pay a stupid subscription to play it on console

[azure oriole]

O

[near hull]

пацаны пираты афигели я не могу игру запустить с пиратки

[limber canopy]

I've seen a few speedruns and when they use the crucible on a doom hunter sled it doesn't use up a charge, does anybody know how thats possible?

[tropic mesa]

не думал, что скачал вирус?

[strange gale]

if you're referring to slash canceling, it does use a charge, but the usual crucible animation you'd get locked into gets skipped. though there is an infinite crucible glitch on patches 6.3 and older, and another version of it on current patch that nobody knows how to trigger

[limber canopy]

Nah i was watching raphs speedrun and he used the crucible on a doomhunters sled and it straight up didn't use a charge

[strange gale]

unrestricted category?

[limber canopy]

All master levels

https://youtu.be/L4-TGXZ13Lw

This one at 23:57

[strange gale]

oh yea it's free there

[limber canopy]

What do you mean

[strange gale]

it's a quirk specifically with the sled

slash canceling costs a charge against everything but doom hunter sleds

[limber canopy]

How is it done

[strange gale]

use crucible, immediately swap weapons

[limber canopy]

Does just pressing the quickswap button worl?

[strange gale]

can't say, i haven't ever tried doing it that way

[dull herald]

it should work considering its just a bind to switch to whatever weapon you had previously equipped 🤭🤭

[strange gale]

there's a small delay to that because the game has to make sure you swapped weapons instead of trying to open the wheel

so it might not

[fiery cloud]

which TAG2 level do I have to beat on Nightmare for the Gold super shotgun?

[jaunty vapor]

Swap weapons once you start the swing animation. At the end of said animation you will swap weapons. I'm assuming weapon wheel works as well though I dunno, normally just use binds.

If the enemy you use it in does not have an animation for crucibling it, it will not use a charge. So Doom Hunter Sleds, Gladiator/Khan Maykr, Icon of Sin, and Kalibas Eyes for main game.

Using console commands, you can use it on dlc enemies for weird results that I won't get into cause it rarely matters.

[limber canopy]

Neat

Sounds easier than i thought

[jolly kernel]

weird thing to say, but I would like being friends with fellow Doom fans in here on steam

[dusk forge]

I so wish I could play Doom Eternal on my mac!! Anyone had any luck getting it to work in any way on a mac?

[hoary hound]

i killed myself in the cultist base on ultra nigtmare with a rocket 😦

[lyric lodge]

thats sad

[azure oriole]

man

[violet gull]

[icy ice]

Is a screecher buff a temporary spirit buff for all enemies? I can't tell if the damage resistance is the same or not

[azure oriole]

More or less

[uneven turtle]

first or second level, i believe

[dull herald]

first one

world spear gets you the ssg and hc skin

[wary badger]

Once I reached 666 hours in doom eternaI will do ultra nightmare

[lyric lodge]

better take a ss

[wary badger]

What

[lyric lodge]

a screenshot when you hit 666

[wary badger]

I will

[young mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077069514505728152/1096454993244078171/image.png

Kind of low res, but here’s an image from when I hit 666 hours

[lyric isle]

petition to make it an optional achievment on PC lmao

[broken forum]

I only have 112

[strange gale]

that's crazy bro

[clever osprey]

Ching cheng hanji

[signal spear]

Achievement: listening to doom ost 666 times.

[sacred dirge]

Doable

[azure oriole]

done already

[prime oasis]

...

[jolly kernel]

It’s hard to think of any Arachnotron glory kill that doesn’t involve it getting stabbed in the eye

that thing always looks scared as its eyes get impaled, either by the blade or its own body

[slow sigil]

Throwing it on it's back, putting a made in it's mouth

[jolly kernel]

I think it has like 3 getting stabbed in the eye kills

and one of them involves both eyes

[young mango]

The throwing it is my favorite arachnotron glory kill

[fallen heart]

did that handful of times

[dull wind]

Arachnotron is so early in eternal? wow

normally it was a rather higher tier monster in classic doom

surprising to see it now as a low tier one apparently

[young mango]

Arachnotron and revenant have been subjugated to being shit tier enemies in eternal instead of being the absolute monsters they were in doom 2

[dull wind]

Also some aspects of the game are quite colorful. e.g. the chainsaw kills. While it surely has its purpose that all these drops have all different colors, its so colorful and so much distraction from the actual kill, and with all the rainbow colors it makes it less brutal immersion to me

[young mango]

It’s a different color per ammo type, which you get a variety of

[dull wind]

I thought so, but it totally destroys the immersion. its so many drops and so much color, it makes the game appear less brutal

[young mango]

You can turn the loot drop brightness down in settings

[dull wind]

in general doom 2016 felt darker in atmosphere, doom 2016 felt more serious, more brutal
eternal feels less brutal in atmosphere. I dont know how to describe better

[dull wind]

good tip, I will try it out later

[young mango]

2016 was a more aesthetically pleasing game yes but the gameplay loop was dull, yes it was a slaughter fest but that’s because it was too easy, eternal fixes this issue by forcing you to use your whole arsenal in tandem

2016 was just stun bomb ssg

[dull wind]

does eternal have ammo upgrades like 2016?

I hate this very low ammo capacity

shotgun at 16 ammo what is this

[young mango]

Yes, but not as bountiful, the low ammo capacity incentives resource management and chainsawing

[dull wind]

I noticed it wants to see the chainsaw a lot already, but meh. weird mechanic

[young mango]

Shotgun ammo maxes out at 24, bullets at 180, plasma at 250, rockets at 13

[dull wind]

shotgun only 24? hmm

also the super shotgun?

[young mango]

Once you become acclimated you really never practically need more than that

[young mango]

Yes their ammo pool is still intertwined

[dull wind]

hmm not the biggest fan of that. put more enemies, and/or give them more health would make you watch out for ammo as well
But a low max ammo ehh

not so sure if I will like that
the first thing I did upgrade in 2016 was the ammo

[slow sigil]

it's just a reload key

[dull wind]

also the engine feels not so smooth as doom 2016 for me
all maxed out I'm around 80 to 100 fps with 2560x1600 and OBS capture, but it feels more like 30 to 40fps

I have motion blur and grain off though (but I had these off in 2016 too)

game looks super sharp and good textures, but the fps it shows feels not reality

[slow sigil]

hmm weird, it should run generally the same

[dull wind]

it feels similar like Quake Champions: You need twice the fps for same smoothness as a doom 2016, or some other games

[jolly kernel]

first time I played Eternal I played it exactly like 2016

big mistake

[dull wind]

I got punished for being smart 😄

[azure oriole]

honestly i can quick swap better in 2016 than in eternal

[slow sigil]

well it's faster in 2016

[azure oriole]

ye

[dull wind]

There was another weapon upgrade drone, and I skipped it, because I had at this point only the shotgun
now I have a machine gun and cant reach the drone anymore LOL

[slow sigil]

and you can combo with stronger hitting weapons

[azure oriole]

rl gc ssg

[slow sigil]

well being "smart" is subjective it would seem

[dull wind]

normally it IS a smart thing to do to buy the weapon mod for the next weapon instead of buying the 2nd one 😄

[jolly kernel]

I’m pretty sure the gauss cannon and ballista (without mods) don’t have much differences

[slow sigil]

on the other hand, you literally jumped down a cliff

[azure oriole]

cant directly compare them
theyre in different games

[slow sigil]

they're the same type of weapon

[slow sigil]

you can compare the ssg in 2016 to the one in eternal though can't you?

[azure oriole]

the damage output? how would you compare that

[slow sigil]

average ttk across enemy types

[dull wind]

sure. But I still did expect somehow via an else route to get back there. It just felt dumb to buy the 2nd shotgun mod when it was to be expected to find another weapon than the start gun

[jolly kernel]

honestly, 2016’s shotgun sticky bombs don’t give as much as impact feeling compared to Eternal’s to me

[azure oriole]

2016 does not have stickies

[slow sigil]

the combat shotgun in eternal isnt a weak gun just because you start with it

[dull wind]

didnt say its weak

[azure oriole]

full auto is devastating actually

[dull wind]

But I still highly assumed to find another gun in the first level

[jolly kernel]

there’s an upgrade for the shotgun that allows it to fire bombs in 2016 too I think

[slow sigil]

devastatingly awfull

[azure oriole]

yep but not sticky bombs

[dull wind]

and it got true, i got the machinegun. So it was a bit weird that I couldnt get back to the drone 😄

[slow sigil]

but if you just started out it is ok i guess, and it's good with 4x damage

[azure oriole]

you can get rid of heavies quick

[slow sigil]

not as quick as quickswaps

[azure oriole]

i mean early game

[slow sigil]

nor as ammo efficient

[jolly kernel]

damn muscle memory already started to strike

[dull wind]

Especially when you come from 2016 it was a logical move for me to save the drone for a potential new weapon instead of wasting it on a 2nd mod

[slow sigil]

sticky spam is about as decent and pb punchswap

[slow sigil]

sounds more logical to me that they want you do have both weaponmods for the first gun to quickly get in the flow \

[jolly kernel]

iirc, 2016 shotgun bombs instantly explode on impact

[dull wind]

Maybe I can re-enter the level later like in 2016 and then make my intention true and upgrade the new weapon instead of 2nd shotgun mod 😄

[slow sigil]

you could

[dull wind]

yes. The sticky is new in eternal. 2016 was explode on impact

[slow sigil]

but spoilers: it wont be needed

[azure oriole]

usually only one mod for all the weapons is good
and you get that mod as soon as you get your new weapon

[jolly kernel]

weapoj

sounds better than gub

[slow sigil]

in some cases the other one is decent yet still outshined
and in another both are bad

[dull wind]

I will do that then. I dont think I will use the auto shotgun much. With this low ammo game I dont think a auto shotty is a good thing lol

[azure oriole]

plasma gun

[slow sigil]

that's the 2nd one

[azure oriole]

yes

[slow sigil]

nearly every weapon has 1 mod that is outshined by the other

and if the other one is decent it's still not even worth the time to swap weaponmods

[dull wind]

So better to use the drone for the new weapon instead of buying a 2nd mod 😄

[slow sigil]

well you can't reach it

[jolly kernel]

I usually only use the full auto shotgun mod to kill Arachnotrons quickly in the first 2 levels

[dull wind]

when I re-enter the level later, I can reach it

[slow sigil]

you can

but again, it wont be needed

[dull wind]

hm ok

[azure oriole]

The only weapon with both mods being good is heavy canon

[jolly kernel]

eh

[dull wind]

It looked like Cacodemons still do only have gibbing deaths? Why they have no regular deaths xd

[jolly kernel]

I don’t find micro missiles good

[slow sigil]

MM is still meh

[dull wind]

I loved them in 2016 🙂

[slow sigil]

it's ok for new peeps though but overall meh

[azure oriole]

hmm

[slow sigil]

uhhh no clue i never really took notice of that

[azure oriole]

most mods are good on 2016

[jolly kernel]

Cacodemons DO die normally in eternal

[dull wind]

Not sure yet if in eternal the same, but in 2016 they only have gib deaths :/

[jolly kernel]

if you don’t glory kill them or kill them with strong weapons like ballista

[dull wind]

The glory kill making them gib is a bit weird too though. Why would ripping out the eye would make the whole body fall apart? 😄

[jolly kernel]

they even brought back the good old blue Cacodemon blood from Classic Doom

[slow sigil]

"guys my video game about killing demons from hell itself doesnt have 100% fullproof logic and has more violence then needed plz fix"

[dull wind]

I loved to see classic doom medikits and health potions. how cool was that to see

even the green haired zombie soldier 😄

[jolly kernel]

I don’t see much games where enemies have blood that is more than red or green

[azure oriole]

all enemies in eternal have designs based on og doom games

[dull wind]

its actually less brutal like that 😄

[slow sigil]

except barons

[azure oriole]

well not ALL... but most

[jolly kernel]

my boi the Tyrant is the good old classic Cyberdemon

[azure oriole]

Yep

[jolly kernel]

better than that weird alien moose from 2016

[azure oriole]

cyberdemon more like cyberbullied

[slow sigil]

i do hope next game has more original designs though cause doing it over and over sounds a bit too stale

[azure oriole]

true

[slow sigil]

doesnt have to be completely new but just atleast some clearcut changes

[jolly kernel]

Doom 3 has probably the most unique demon designs

[slow sigil]

tbf i wouldnt be opposed to doom3 HD designs

[dull wind]

An improvement would be a bit more variety of the glory kills for also stronger monsters. In 2016 for most of the bigger monsters there was only 1 type of glory kill

[jolly kernel]

Lost Soul in every other Doom game: 💀
Lost Soul in Doom 3: 👩

[slow sigil]

theres 1 for every main angle except down usually

[dull wind]

also now for cacos?

[azure oriole]

shit, they were scary in doom 3

[slow sigil]

some like the carcass had multiple depending on where you looked or something though i thought? no clue how those work

[fringe blaze]

I believe that the next game from modern id Software will be much more graphic and cooler than Doom Eternal

[jolly kernel]

the Cacodemon’s screams as you pull their eyes out sound funny

[slow sigil]

i'm not sure but i thkink?

[jolly kernel]

I’m not sure if any Eternal glory kills are directly reused from 2016

[slow sigil]

i think a few? but not sure

[dull wind]

but 2016 and eternal both have good models, look really authentic to the classics. At doom 3 I was especially disappointed about its cacos.

[azure oriole]

the gumba stomp ones look very similar

[fringe blaze]

Rage 1 is underrated, this is an amazing combination of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Both Mad Max and Doom 3 are underrated as Horror.

[dull wind]

Really, really good is the machine gun fire sound too. Holy moly, that sounds really epic

[slow sigil]

the left and right one are extremely similar and they dont have an "up" one

[fringe blaze]

Recently passed Resident Evil 4 Remake, well done. Looking forward to Resident Evil 9.

[dull wind]

too bad though that this game has no VR. Even with keyboard & mouse kept it would be so good in VR

[slow sigil]

hahahahhaha probably not

too much movement, that would give motion sickness for pretty much everyone

[dull wind]

nope

[slow sigil]

you literally have only played the first third of hell on earth you barely started the game

[dull wind]

Serious Sam can be played VR too, and thats no less fast than doom

[slow sigil]

fast =/= movement

meathookswinging and ballista boosting would be crazy

[dull wind]

motion sickness is for some people in flat already a thing

its not how a decision should be made

I would 100% not get motion sick

[fringe blaze]

Serious Sam after the Second Coming was no longer the same. Is that Siberian Mayhem returns the same 2001 and 2002.

[fickle lance]

im fucking playing doom eternal with huge diarrhea from amoeba

[dull wind]

1st encounter and 2nd encounter are VR too

[slow sigil]

have you watched gameplay of anything past the 4th level?

[dull wind]

I dont want spoilers, so no

but I play enough other fast games in VR

[slow sigil]

do you go through the arena with 130 mph after a boost from your grapple hook?

[jolly kernel]

lol no. even though I like Serious Sam games, even TFE and TSE aren’t that fast compared to Eternal

[slow sigil]

i'm not talking about just speed of making decisions, but speed of how you move and in what way you move

[dull wind]

why would that be a problem in VR? I dont see a problem

[slow sigil]

cause it would give too many people problems

[sacred dirge]

🫂

[dull wind]

The only problem might be the controls, but you could play keyboard and mouse then

[jolly kernel]

DE is way too fast and has a lot of mechanics to play well in vr

[slow sigil]

if you dont get any problem at all you would be in a small group. small enough to where it also wouldnt even be worth the effort of creating it aswell

[dull wind]

Only people who get motion sick anyway

[fringe blaze]

Quake 2 was better than TSE.

[dull wind]

the majority of daily VR players dont have such issues

its just for people who use a VR headset once in 3 months

[slow sigil]

do you assume just the movement you have done so far in your small quarter playthrough of hell on earth?

or do you account for the grapple hooking, turning around, frequent dashing

[dull wind]

If you dont add VR Controls and keep it mouse & Keyboard you just would need the VR Rendering. Cant be that awful to add it. If people get sick they can play flat

[slow sigil]

are you gonna ignore my very important point or

[jolly kernel]

I’m pretty sure 99% of players would get sick

[dull wind]

no

[slow sigil]

because, again, you havent played shit in eternal

dont expect it to be as fast as 2016 qua movement and how far you move in what time

[dull wind]

only these people who have a VR headset on their head once in 3 months would get sick xD

the brain gets used to it. if you play daily its not much else than flat gaming in regard sickness

[slow sigil]

alr then, this is going nowhere cause you refuse to deal with the actual problem, back to actual eternal talk and not talking to a wall

[dull wind]

there is no problem

[slow sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/nowarinbasingse-atla-avatar-the-last-gif-18401680

[fringe blaze]

It doesn't matter which is better, the main thing is, let's admit that TitanFail 2 is shit.

[slow sigil]

again, you havent played anything of eternal yet