doom-eternal

[young mango]

Taras Nabad is underwhelming after playing the master level

It’s almost empty in comparison

[jaunty vapor]

At least Arc Complex is still interesting after its Master Level KEKW

[limpid igloo]

I think that's it with every master level, I played the sgn master level so much that when I got into the campaign I was sad that half the fights in the master level weren't campaing fights

[azure oriole]

oh ye i remember that one arena fight with the archivile and baron it was so hard first time
now it just feels like whatever

[jaunty vapor]

"Master levels are harder versions of the original levels."
"What about Arc Complex?"
"What about Arc Complex?"

[azure oriole]

I don’t know why but I have yet to play a single master level

[young mango]

Arc complex just drones on for too long imo

[azure oriole]

I think I spent too much time 100% both doom games in doom eternal

[limpid igloo]

When I cleared un on arc complex master, I thought I was the shit, went into sgn and immediately got my ass handed to me

[azure oriole]

welp

its with every master level for me lmao

What’s the point of doing master levels on un?

Just curious

i think it unlocks the skins? idk

or no those are unlocked through challenges

[limpid igloo]

Yeah, like on sgn if you get all the challenges you get a gold shotgun

[azure oriole]

Contributes to the challenges which unlock weapon skins

OH

I’m doing that if I can anyways (I’ve been wanting cool weapon skins)

i think there are only 3
one for shotgun
ballista and heavy canon

I'm particularly fond of the teal chrome heavy cannon you get from taras nabad

Plasma rifle too

ye

Oh wait I can’t even beat the campaign on un

i guess you could do it on any difficulty and as long as you complete the challenges you get the skin

With the master levels it's y'know, one level, but it's still a bit of a grind. All it takes is memorization and strategy

I loved how my first nightmare play through every extra life I burnt I would think to my self “you would’ve had to restart on un”

I keep fumbling on un

For reference, taras nabad took me roughly 40 tries

[azure oriole]

Actually if you remember all the enemy spawn locations and know how to quick swap and use equipment you can destroy any arena within seconds
and its not that hard to do
in d2016 i remember all the arena fights and how they go so I know exactly what to do and what enemied to eliminate first
and this should also apply to eternal

playing for the first or second time will feel like youre being thrown into an arena and dont know what to expect or what monsters you'll face but after playing a bunch of times it becomes really easy

this is pretty much how i completed my first nightmare run
by dying a bunch of times but also being attentive so i can know when and where the enemies spawn

[crystal fog]

finally someone agrees

[limber canopy]

Cannot ignore the pure thiccness of a caco

Until it bites you in half and eats your insides

[jolly kernel]

the Pain Elemental's backstory makes me feel bad for them. they are in constant agony and use their Lost Souls to inflict it on others

no wonder they have Pain as part of their name

[humble summit]

Whats the multiplayer like?🤔

[azure oriole]

Empty

[supple belfry]

It's not letting me move doom eternal to another drive, anyone got any idea why? I know this probably isn't the best place to ask.

[deft geyser]

No sir, i do NOT Want a handshake

[young mango]

The easiest level in the base campaign has got to be Mars core, your Arsenal is almost basically maxed out and the arenas hardly compensate for it

[rare trench]

Good evening
Does the weapon wheel scroll super jump work on the current version?

[young mango]

No sadly not it got patched out fairy early although the scroll wheel jump is still useful for bunnyhops

[limber canopy]

Its pretty fun but is really hard

Since y'know

You're playing against real people

[humble summit]

I was thinking about getting it, to bad the season pass doesn't give all the cool skins to

I love the unicorn boi

[sage stone]

If you make a custom game with someone and aim for the achievements does that work?

[covert oar]

honestly i want death match

[sage stone]

Who's gonna arrest me? Doom?

Haven't played doom in 2 years had to save data but I've been in a trophy hunting mood so I thought about getting doom eternal trophies

[jolly kernel]

it's really amazing that even on the lowest settings, the game still looks quite good

[gaunt obsidian]

hi

[jolly kernel]

hear me out:

Carcass is a worse enemy than Marauder

[turbid jetty]

eh

[lyric lodge]

cold ass take

[turbid jetty]

they have their moments, but I usually kill them too quickly for them to be effective

[sacred atlas]

Can someone tell me how the f you log out of Bethesda.net on doom eternal?

[hoary idol]

Eh, they're annoying they always get in the way of glory kills

[azure oriole]

they can absolutely kill your flow in easy combats, yeah

[spark eagle]

how come sometimes I get 200 fps on doom eternal, and other times just 60 without changing settings or having other apps open

[young mango]

Probably vsync

[spark eagle]

off

[boreal jewel]

How do I beat trial of Maligog

Nvm. I spent all my BFG ammo on the Unmakyr to cheese an easy win out of frustration.

[dull herald]

umm

trail of maligog is a rlly simple boss?

[boreal jewel]

The problem is that I suck

Maybe I shouldn't be playing on nightmare

[dull herald]

AS I WAS SAYING

erm.... you should NOT be playing on nightmare for a first time playthrough.. xd

[boreal jewel]

I'm at least good enough that I'm making slow progress in The Holt, but it's a struggle. But yeah, this is my first playthrough of TAG1.

[naive jolt]

are servers down?

can i have my customisation items even if servers are down?

idk

[boreal jewel]

Not ballista?

[naive jolt]

my face?

the one w the grey hair?

ouch?

[boreal jewel]

Punch the trial of Maligog?

[azure oriole]

is there any other DOOM game on the way? just asking

[midnight sparrow]

Most likely not for a while. It's been highly speculated the game id Software's working on right now that we know nothing about is a Quake reboot and if that is true don't expect another Doom game for a good GOOD few years.

[random vault]

that already released

[azure oriole]

i will 100% throw my fucking chair at my window if its not the Quake Ranger

[midnight sparrow]

C'mon man don't you want everyone's favorite Quake protagonist Bitterman to return? Or maybe Matthew Kane?

[azure oriole]

its more so i want the Quake that quake 1 established

not cause its how quake should be or some purist mentality but cause it be nice to expand upon it

Like add more depth than a guy running around dimensions like a Border hopping immigrant

Wait was that offensive 😂

[midnight sparrow]

Yeah I feel you. I honestly can give less of a shit about the Strogg. A Quake 1 reboot expanded its world (which had so little lore already) would be great. Go full on with the Lovecraft inspirations and gothic castles. I also just want to see the old Quake 1 monsters and weapons get modern redesigns and cool intro cutscenes for the iconic monsters like they did in DOOM 2016.

[azure oriole]

Also i feel sci-fi is somethin overused a lot in gaming so a gothic feel is such a nice change

Overused sense the early 90’s

[midnight sparrow]

Yep, also a modern redesign could maybe finally end the "Are Shamblers furry or fleshy" debate

[azure oriole]

I mean even know with Cyberpunk-like asthetics and neon colors. its beautiful but i cant help but feel ive seen this every-time

Like all the shooters ive played are sci-fi

Half-life
Doom
Halo
Call of duty
list goes on….

Metroid prime

[midnight sparrow]

First person games that have unique settings are nice

BioShock and Dishonored come to mind

[random vault]

i like ultrakill

[azure oriole]

I like angry birds

[lyric lodge]

my favourite shooter is flappy bird

[gloomy kindle]

i wish we got crossplay

[dull herald]

i don't 😂

[gloomy kindle]

console only

[obtuse field]

My favorite shooter is American schools the game

[gloomy kindle]

as in console only

[midnight sparrow]

ultrakills fun. P-2’s been kicking my ass

[dull herald]

bro its EASYY

i definitely haven't ruined p-ranks multiple times in the second boss phase 🤭🤭

[midnight sparrow]

I haven’t played in a while after P-ranking all of Wrath and Heresy so I’m having a massive skill issue

[random vault]

i fell off playing ultrakill and when i came back to play p-2, my dumbass hasnt even managed to get to the main boss yet

[random vault]

nerdy tryhard mcpyro

[dull herald]

ummm.... theres a difference between tryhard and pro okay......

[lyric lodge]

havent try ultrakill but it actually does look great

[random vault]

the difference is your just a NERD

[lyric lodge]

what's wrong with thinking a level is easy bruh

[dull herald]

wtf.... cries....

[random vault]

omg dont cry you’ll make me cri….. cries real

[dull herald]

:houn:

[random vault]

hesfakeyouknow

[dull herald]

🤭🤭...

[lyric lodge]

so sadge...

[jolly kernel]

I can't get the milestone that requires you to kill just 1 Zombie with the BFG

does the Zombie have to be directly get hit by it?

[lyric lodge]

I kept trying it so many times but i couldn't seem to get it

[jolly kernel]

that must mean one thing

it's broken!

what's weird is that some milestones are also achievements, while others are not

[azure forum]

Some milestones are bugged and i think that was one of them.

[jolly kernel]

I wish Prowlers were considered fodder demons because often you need to chainsaw something to get ammo so you try to find what looks like an Imp yet it turns out to be a Prowler and the insufficient fuel pop-up appears

[young mango]

Come on man how desperate are you you’ve done this before and mods deleted all your messages

[azure oriole]

That's especially funny

[young mango]

He also does this on literally every other platform he’s on

And it ALSO gets deleted by moderators

[jolly kernel]

holy shit

if you suck at the game that bad, how about lowering the difficulty

[strange gale]

[young mango]

LMAO

[wary badger]

Very sad

[rare trench]

bruh pain

I just wanted to learn it and try speedrunning :/

[young mango]

Well you can still downpatch, ask bloodshot when he comes back online

[jaunty vapor]

Hey now. You think I just randomly see someone mention Speedrun stuff and will immediately try and help them?

Cause you're fucking damn right I will

[young mango]

Hahahaha

Man I should get into speedrunning I’ve gotten pretty consistent with UN I should do 100%

[jaunty vapor]

It does not work on current patch. However if you own the game on steam, you can downpatch, i.e. download the files used for earlier versions of the game.

By any chance have you joined the Speedrun discord for Doom Eternal? If not I can send a link, there's plenty of advice/help there.

Even if you're on console, there's PLENTY of skips still possible in the game on current patch. One day (read: never because I'm busy as fuck 😦 ) I want to route any% current patch

[jaunty vapor]

Id say you should do Restricted Any%... But I'm also incredibly biased KEKW

I always recommend people give it an honest try without even watching other runs. I think just learning the run on your own and THEN improving is a very cool experience.

[jolly kernel]

if you blood punch a Tyrant, then quickswap between pb, ssg and ballista, how quick it would kill him?

[jaunty vapor]

It would be slower than SSG punch swaps but uh... I think I did this math before right?

[young mango]

Probably two cycles of that

[lyric isle]

Im about to finish arc complex les goooo
Paused cause i needed to go somewhere but i cant wait to see whats behind the red portal

[young mango]

Yea my fastest completion of the campaign is 5 hours tops

[jaunty vapor]

You asked a similar question awhile ago and I put the math there, so I'm gonna just link that.

#doom-eternal message

[young mango]

I’ve been thinking of trying your low% on nightmare, doing it on UN sounds like hell

[jaunty vapor]

Do yourself a favor

[jolly kernel]

oh fuck

[jaunty vapor]

Allow chainsaw.

[jolly kernel]

I got alzheimer

[young mango]

You can skip chainsaw?

[jaunty vapor]

Yup

Alternatively if you WANT to skip chainsaw... Maybe allow Heavy Rifle + chaingun? I dunno.

Arc Complex in particular just becomes hell otherwise

That said just my opinion on the run, feel free to try out whatever. Just wanna save any pain XD

[young mango]

Skipping the heavy cannon is gonna be hard

Cuz it’s so crucial for a lot of combos including punch swapping, at least I can still use plasma rifle as a substitute

[jaunty vapor]

Im still proud of the UN Dash skip lol. It's so convoluted but that's the kinda shit I enjoy about skips in games

[young mango]

I’m only gonna do the skips I’m capable of, I’m no speedrunner

[lyric isle]

Rip samuel hayden

[jaunty vapor]

That's the beauty of running, when you start out there's so much to learn/do and you don't NEED to do all of it. Just have fun with it

I sound like a fucking after school special 🤣

[young mango]

I could also knock out cant perfect perfection cuz oddly enough despite my almost 1000 hours I haven’t done it

[boreal jewel]

Anyone here use pb rockets on console? I can't quite get the execution down.

[jolly kernel]

with 2 frag grenades, an ice bomb, a blood punch and a ssg, ballista and pb combo, I managed to kill a Tyrant in 8 seconds

[young mango]

Hey wait are you pc or console

Because if you’re pc I could teach you some cool stuff

[jolly kernel]

pc

[young mango]

Awesome

So have you heard of punchswapping, using the supershotgun like that on a tyrant gets you to about 3 seconds

[jolly kernel]

wtf

just go back and forth between punching and the ssg?

[young mango]

Well it’s a punch, and then you repress the weapon key for the ssg, and then fire

[covert oar]

should i start using shotguns against fodder for a glory kill

or is heavy rifle better

[young mango]

Coupled with an icebomb and flame belch up close your blood punch and ssg should tear him apart if done correctly

[jolly kernel]

I'm pretty sure the flame belch actually doesn't deal damage to enemies

[strange gale]

ib only increases the damage of bp there, just to be clear

[midnight sparrow]

Heavy Rifle and funny enough the Plasma Rifle are better at riddling down enemy health for glory kills

[strange gale]

flame belch is used there to recharge bp

[slow sigil]

HR is better as you can "choose" it better
With csg you gotta make sure you are at the right distance and even then random spread can fuck you over

[jolly kernel]

gonna try this out

[young mango]

Thank you for explaining you read my mind on what I was trying to say

[covert oar]

i see thanks

it’s ages since i played any of the new doom games since i recently got 64, eternal and 2016 in a £20 deal

[supple belfry]

anyone know why my doom eternal isnt launching? i have it in the xbox pc app

[covert oar]

corrupt files, try validating the game

[lyric isle]

Holy shit
Marauder is a lot harder to fight than i thought

[supple belfry]

how do i do that?

[covert oar]

no clue on xbox pc app but on steam just go into the settings on steam and go into files it should say validate files or something

[supple belfry]

I hit the repair button and it uninstalled it and it's reinstalling

If my save data didn't save I'll probably cry for the rest of time

[lyric isle]

I have aquired the BFG
Still as amazing as it was in D16

[glass totem]

Is there anyone else that leaves buff totems up on purpose just to make the arena more interesting?

[azure oriole]

Ah it's kinda become just instinct for me to bust em up immediately but I'll have to remember that sometime

[slow sigil]

i did

blood swamps becomes pretty darn cool, wished there where more forced totems

[rare trench]

I don't need to join the discord yet, I just wanted to try some casual slowruns because I just enjoy this game

but I never even finished UN campaign

I just saw the wheel jump and thought it looks super fun so I wanted to try it but I guess not

[glass totem]

I never want to, it sounds like torture to me. I can barely handle regular Nightmare.

[rare trench]

I don't take it too seriously though and I've never downpatched a game before just for speedrunning
(I also really enjoy Subnautica and Titanfall 2)

[glass totem]

I wish there were more games like Doom Eternal.

[midnight sparrow]

There kinda are

[rare trench]

there's Shadow Warrior but it has weird controls

can't even bind weapons

[glass totem]

I wish my brain would stop farting out when I have limited ammo and equipment is on cooldown, also when I can’t find a fodder enemy to chainsaw.

[jaunty vapor]

You can still join the discord and enjoy it casually/at your own pace. 😄 But whatever works best for you. Downpatching sounds a lot scarier than it actually is.

[slow sigil]

never shoot fodder needlessly so it'll always be around

[glass totem]

Sometimes I light them on fire and fire a grenade to regain some armor when it’s low.

[rare trench]

I get angry really easily is my problem (just in this case tho irl I'm actually very friendly)
Or the game fewks me over with something I think is bs

[glass totem]

One thing I know is that trying a failed move over and over again doesn’t work. You should try to change your footing or prioritize other enemies.

[rare trench]

Don't worry once I'll decide I want to downpatch or learn some cool skips I'll join the discord or contact you

speaking of, are there any cool skips on the current patch? Both campaign and tag

[glass totem]

Btw I only have 50 hours of Doom Eternal on steam. By most players, those are like rookie numbers.

[rare trench]

I have 215 currently

[glass totem]

My actual hours are 53.9.

IDR on PS4. It doesn’t keep track of time played.

[lyric isle]

Mars Core slayer gate time

i made a mistake

[azure oriole]

Me realizing that a new Doom means a new Ultra Nightmare

https://tenor.com/view/titan-megamind-silent-hill-dead-inside-stare-gif-23717163

the suffering is eternal

[azure oriole]

please noo!!😭

[sacred dirge]

I'm sure this new quake game coming will have a UN

[supple belfry]

is anyone else having problems launching doom eternal on the xbox app on pc?

[midnight sparrow]

Hope they change up the difficulty names for Quake

[random vault]

it does

if you click on the top right and hit profile, you can see the games you’ve played and hours played

[rare trench]

Is there a possibility that UN is just naturally impossible for some people no matter how much they practice?

or can you always actually git THAT gud?

[slow sigil]

i mean, UN is a mememode

it's nothing harder then regular nightmare

[strange gale]

i'd say it's possible even for people with severe/profound disabilities

[random vault]

thats a defeatist mentality, if you tryhard enough you can eventually do it

unless you physically cant play videogames, if you dedicate enough time and effort, you can do it

[strange gale]

there's this fighting game player, brolylegs, his arms & legs don't work because his brain straight up didn't & can't tell those muscles to grow, but he still beats ass in sfv using his mouth to control the game

he even has respectable tournament results

so having a defeatist mentality about UN, one of the easier permadeath modes out there, is kinda goofy

[young mango]

Just gotta be dedicated

[jolly kernel]

if playing on un, would you consider skipping the slayer gates and secret encounters to be a good thing?

[young mango]

Ehhhh no I like to do both secret encounters in exultia and the slayer gate because I can have a fully upgraded rocket launcher and ssg by cultist base

[glass totem]

I’m at the profile page, but I can’t see my hours.

[strange gale]

egg gate is free so it's worth going for every time

multiblast is at its best there, and you can get 3 chainsaw pips from the sentinel crystal right before it

[glass totem]

What is the egg gate?

[strange gale]

oh exultia

[glass totem]

Exultia’s Slayer Gate you mean?

[strange gale]

speedrun discord calls it egg so i've gotten used to that name, but yeah

[glass totem]

Btw is it better to have the hud smaller or larger? Is it personal preference?

[young mango]

Average size is best imo but some people play with no HUD

[glass totem]

Large HUD is my favorite.

[strange gale]

medium & small have incrementally slightly worse readability, but that's of course also affected by screen size

[glass totem]

So my guess is smaller screen and larger HUD is best.

[strange gale]

probably, but it's really just a theoretical benefit

[jolly kernel]

I'm honestly scared in regards to un. imagine being in the last few levels of the game (especially the final boss fight) only to get killed anyway

[glass totem]

I did try on Nightmare once and I made it to level 2 without dying.

[jolly kernel]

I feel sorry for those people that tried to finish UN died in the very last boss fight

[random vault]

dmed you a video

[strange gale]

kinda forgot how good slayer's kit is when it isn't restricted in any way

[jolly kernel]

I like how when enemies are so badly damaged with lots of exposed flesh and bones shown, it doesn't hinder them in the slightest

of course this game doesn't has to be accurate to real-life, but it's kinda funny

[midnight sparrow]

Be kind of funny if it did hinder there movement lol

In this game Bonelab enemies movement will be hindered if certain body parts are damaged like they’ll fall more if there legs are heavily damaged or there attacks will be weaker if there arms are hurt

It’s a cool mechanic

[slow sigil]

That's the demom horde for ya

[jolly kernel]

yeah. disabling the Arachnotron's turret, Revenant's rocket launchers and the Mancubus' arm cannons is very helpful

though, it probably doesn't matter much in later levels since you can kill all these enemies in seconds with quickswap combos

[potent lagoon]

Hellooo people, I just joined (and got doom like- a week ago

[midnight sparrow]

Hi

[vocal helm]

XD

[sacred dirge]

Welcome

[limber canopy]

I'm making a tyrant sculpture but i'm not sure what the base should look like

[jolly kernel]

though it would have been weird, I wish Tentacles had a toy like every other base campaign enemy

[limber canopy]

@jolly kernel since you're a tyrant fan what do you think?

[jolly kernel]

sounds awesome

one of the reasons I like the Tyrant so much is because his design. he's literally Classic Cyberdemon but HD

[limber canopy]

Byeah

But can you suggest something?

[jolly kernel]

wdym by ''what the base should look like''?

[limber canopy]

What he stands on

Hes going to stand on a platform but i cant decide what it should be

[jolly kernel]

hmm

maybe a platform above a river of lava?

[limber canopy]

The thing is i've already done that twice before and i feel like doing something different

[jolly kernel]

maybe you could make him stand on the top of a destroyed building

[limber canopy]

Like ruins?

[jolly kernel]

yes

[limber canopy]

Hmm, i like it

I have brick texture roller too so it'll be perfect

[jolly kernel]

and maybe make it look like he's aiming his rocket launcher

[limber canopy]

Yeah i've already figured out the pose

It was just the base i needed some help with

[jolly kernel]

I like how the series has fans dedicated enough to make sculptures of characters from the games

[limber canopy]

Obviously

I make stuff i'm interested in, easy

And i just so happen to be very interested in doom, and then happen to have the tyrant as one of my favourite demons

[jolly kernel]

if I had the skill, I would have made figures of monsters from my favourite franchises

[limber canopy]

I've made a cacodemon

[jolly kernel]

[limber canopy]

Wanna see it?

[jolly kernel]

yes

[limber canopy]

I'll post it in the art channel

[glass totem]

Still suck at PB rocket.

[limber canopy]

Hey man, me too

And thats okay

[vocal helm]

[tiny lion]

hey guys

does anyone know how to beat the last spirit baron in tag 2?

anyone?

[potent lagoon]

Thank you, happy to be here

I’ve been in love with doom for awhile and I’m finally able to play it, so far I’m pretty much done with the original campaign and deeply through the dark gods one or whatever it was

I mostly joined to meet other doom lovers but also figure out the battle game mode, I’ve waited in lobbies for long times and can’t find a game :/
(I don’t wanna join the other server I already have too many)

[young mango]

Shoot it until it dies

But I’d actually advise lock on rockets or just general spam, also microwave beam is the only way to falter it, it truly is immune to everything else, it’s just a slaughter fest you have to outlive

[tiny lion]

damn, didnt think about microwave beam

up to satan now

finally

bro. why is he just a bigger marouder

damn, more difficult tho

[midnight sparrow]

It’s… pretty disappointing he should have been saved for a full game.

[tiny lion]

yea, they could have made him a acual decent boss instead of just a bigger normal enemie

[vagrant estuary]

do pros at eternal really use the precision bolt alot?

like sticky bomb launcher and bolt combo?

I swear zero masters gameplay makes me wanna use the precision bolt now

[slow sigil]

Yeah

[tiny lion]

first death now, in 3rd fase

and now i cant beat it

imma stream

voice 2

[young mango]

Pretty much essential in combos

Although once you become really good you go over that bell curve and you use precision bolt less, at least not in two weapon combos

[tiny lion]

YESSSSS, ITS DEAD

ive now beaten every doom game

i beat the main campaign on ps4 not on my pc

'

[midnight sparrow]

It’s really good when used correctly and it’s just good in general

It’s what I expected and wanted 2016s scope to be when I first played it

[jolly kernel]

pb + ballista is very good at long distances

you know, I should use the rl more in combos

[midnight sparrow]

pb+rockets

[jolly kernel]

the ultimate combo: pb + rl + ssg + ballista

[jolly kernel]

which one of the master levels is the easiest in your opinion?

[misty ridge]

Arc-complex probably

[fickle glen]

Idk about you guys but pb means peanut butter right?

[jolly kernel]

man, never thought the precision bolt would be this effective

I can't think of any good hotkeys for the rocket launcher and normal shotgun

[azure forum]

Out of the actual master levels, I'd say Super gore nest.

[jolly kernel]

in regards to the rocket launcher, I made it so scrolling the mouse wheel down brings it up

but I can't think of any good hotkey for the normal shotgun

[limpid igloo]

Out of the regular master levels, imo it's mars core

[jolly kernel]

changed some of my bindings, but man, it feels so confusing when practising due to how used I am to the previous ones

I made it so scrolling the mouse wheel up selects the super shotgun, and pressing q uses equipment

previously, q was the key for the super shotgun and I used clicking the mouse wheel to use equipment

[glass totem]

Another change I’ve made was putting shotgun on middle mouse button, and Plasma rifle on Caps Lock. But I end up hitting Tab accidentally.

[jolly kernel]

but honestly, q being the key for using grenades is better

[wild latch]

the best way to kill a possessed super heavy?

[turbid jetty]

By shooting it

[azure oriole]

The microwave beam will stun it like any other demon

[turbid jetty]

Microwave beam is probably the only thing that could affect a possessed demon

But you usually want to save your cell ammo to microwave the spirit

[misty orbit]

the chaingun and the lock-on burst mod for the rocketlauncher work fine in my experience

[lapis saddle]

Kite them or use hit and run tactics to wear the big boi down then microwave the spirit

[azure oriole]

Does Doom’s event pass restart every week?

[turbid jetty]

Every month

[glass totem]

I wish that you could put videos in here so I could show any skills so others an give me advice.

[frail grove]

Who wants to share their fastest marauder kill times

[jaunty vapor]

0 second kill time

https://youtu.be/tjk86JFCM_k?t=3523

[frail grove]

Doesn't count, boss didn't spawn in, random glitches don't count

[light pasture]

For the amount of grinding and pain in the assery the altar of glory is just too much too look at imo

[azure oriole]

Not a boss btw

[strange gale]

it's framed like a boss but isn't, and this has a consistent setup so it isn't random either

this staggers in probably sub-0.5s https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504714848194527236/948971668079018034/dps.mp4

slob one cycles are like 2 seconds

but these probably don't count either because they don't strictly adhere to intended% rules

if we just take all the actually cool shit off the table, then the fastest mara kill in that context is some random ass sequence nobody does because it's comically bad in comparison

[formal scaffold]

like 2 minutes maybe 1

didn’t count and still can’t remember

[frail grove]

That's pretty good, Mines about the same, but at absolute best mine is 30 seconds

[frail grove]

You get what I meant either way so why bother

[formal scaffold]

yeah i haven’t played TAG1 and i have heard there’s a big marauder encounter there that’s really difficult

[frail grove]

I have seen that there might be a buff totem in TAG where the marauder is affected

Protected by a metal barrier, that'd be super tough to beat

[lyric lodge]

TAG1 also had 2 marauders and a lot of marauders in general

[lyric lodge]

Not tough at all if you could just freeze the totem

[frail grove]

Didn't know you could do that

[formal scaffold]

wait is TAG2 easier than the normal campaign or TAG1 because i have heard it’s the easy one but i don’t know which one it’s being compared to

[lyric lodge]

It's def easier than tag1 obv but idk about the main campaign

[frail grove]

Dunno, but I really wanna get TAG1&2

[lyric lodge]

Just hope I could beat him fast enough before the ice runs out(if it does run out)

[formal scaffold]

i want the indigo doom marine skin

[lyric lodge]

Just get doom 1993 fr

[formal scaffold]

but it didn’t give me it

[frail grove]

Honestly, I'll take the challenge a couple of times

[formal scaffold]

i got the game on switch

[lyric lodge]

I got the game on switch too but I have the marine

I think you need to connect your account

[formal scaffold]

didn’t give me it but it gave me brown marine and quakeguy

i have it connected

[lyric lodge]

I've heard he's just way too annoying like he's literally teasing you on whether he's gonna attack or not

[formal scaffold]

i have quake on switch

[lyric lodge]

Did you connect it in the 1993 one?

[formal scaffold]

yeah

[frail grove]

I fought balder in God of War

I'll have a laugh

That dude literally does just that so it won't be much different except for that the marauder has a way better defencd

[scarlet parcel]

hi guys

I have a problem, I'm going through the ancient gods 2, and when I get to the gate at the Guardian Mountain level, (at the end of the level where there is a giant tentacle and a battle with demons) nothing happens to me

help please

[dull herald]

ummm guardian mountain level??

[scarlet parcel]

yea

[brisk wedge]

Emo

🖤

[hidden pelican]

I'm giving the game another try due to motion sickness issues. So far I've tried:

• Increasing the FOV to max
• Disabling weapon bobbing
• Disabling motion blur
• Disabling the chromatic
• Moving my screen an arms length away

Is there anything else I can try when it finishes installing?

[azure oriole]

i needed a screenshot

[maiden tartan]

[crystal fog]

If reality shifting was real I’d shift into doom eternal as the slayer

Wouldn’t it be fun to rip and tear in real life

[maiden tartan]

That’s abit morbid

[acoustic lark]

Lower your graphic settings for high FPS

[hidden pelican]

Im running at 120 fps on highest settings >.>

[azure oriole]

Easter: celebrates life and birth
Me: playing doom eternal and about to fight a Titan

Fitting day to play

[scarlet parcel]

help

[valid fossil]

This game is relentless....

I LOVE IT

[digital pelican]

What kind of doom eternal is that

That looks way different

[azure oriole]

Because it's WRONG! RAAAAHH!!!

[strange gale]

SO ZASED

[tropic mesa]

that tyrant ragdoll is too sad..

[night cradle]

[covert oar]

dread knights are decimated by the rocket launchers lock on btw

[young mango]

Breaking news that no one has discovered despite the game being out for three years🤯🤯🤯

[strange gale]

doom eternal was released 30 years ago ...

[tiny dagger]

I thought it existed from the start of the universe

[night cradle]

Yes

[gleaming otter]

It's before the universe

[covert oar]

i play the game more casually than anything, i thought it was kinda cool how easy it was to kill it and i’ve only just returned to the game after not playing it for a year since i switched to pc

[boreal jewel]

My struggle through The Holt continues. How do I beat the possessed tyrant? ||Don't say "shoot him until he dies."||

[gaunt obsidian]

hey everyone

[azure forum]

||"shoot him until he dies."||

[random vault]

shoot him until he dies

[limber canopy]

Theres a possessed tyrant?

I want the dlc more than ever now

[azure oriole]

Oke I've finished the main champaign

Although I'm missing several toys...

But I'm debating to play doom 3 next

[shadow matrix]

Yo @valid merlin can you freind me? We played battle mode yesterday

I’m the pain elemental and you were the man ibis

Mancubis

[hoary bough]

Just run around him. He turns slowly and can’t focus you as easily

[strange gale]

yeah, about that https://youtu.be/xQSz24j19cQ

[jaunty vapor]

Actually it's not a random glitch.

The entity count for Doom Eternal is 32 (slayer counts as one entity though) so as long as 31 other things exist, no other enemies will spawn.

Now NORMALLY this actually just staggers spawns in arenas. However, for some reason, the Marauder in Arc Complex is specifically coded to just spawn once, and then the game checks "if Marauder is dead, end level". So this is one of only 2 cases (the other is in Nek 2) that respawning an enemy like this can work.

[hoary bough]

Yeah but that’s extremely tight, the Holt has a much more open area to fight him

[slow sigil]

not a glitch at all, just utter exploitation of exactly how the game is coded

[jaunty vapor]

You can change the criteria for what question you wanna ask, but just saying it "doesnt count" cause you don't understand it is a bit ignorant. The question could be how fast you can kill it without glitches, fine, but if your original criteria is just 'how fast can it die" then that's technically the fastest. And it's NOT random

And if only "random glitches" don't count then energy shield bulldozer would probably be fastest then right?

[strange gale]

bulldozer staggers in like 300-400ms (in the context of a single test), so a kill would be another 33ms or so

entirely dependent on framerate too, so that estimate means nothing at 1000fps

[jaunty vapor]

Basically this mentality is annoying and I agree with @strange gale ,

"How fast can you kill it*****"
****"Using my arbitrary rules based on my limited understanding and if I don't like the answer I will change the criteria until I can enjoy the answer

I get I'm being cheeky when I bring up the despawn but also why DOESNT it count? something something death of the author.

[strange gale]

if you're going to change the framing of the question when challenged, why not frame it like that from the get-go

[jaunty vapor]

To some degree, people may legitimately be ignorant of glitches like that, so it could make sense to say "oh that's interesting but I meant..."

Rather than a flat out "no that doesn't count cuz I said so"

And as you said where does the line get drawn? SLOBS? Frags continuing the falter? Pause boosting?

[young mango]

Yea there’s so much cool shit that can be done that sheer time doesn’t even matter

Instead it should be “what’s the FLASHIEST combo you could do”

[azure forum]

Listen, if it doesn't take you longer, it doesn't count

[young mango]

Bloodshot after I finish this quick UN run I’m going to attempt your low%

Fun way to get can’t perfect perfection

[covert oar]

rocket launcher burst, blood punch and the ssg ballista quick swap

[young mango]

The possessed tyrant not only has much more hp but also boasts immunity to all stuns sans microwave beam, going in for a blood punch would be a poor decision

You’re right about the lock on though, that’s a good decision, but keeping in mind it’s near total immunity to stuns any and all ranged attacks are preferred, so for a beginner the optimal tactic would be perhaps precision bolt and ballista quickswapping

[sacred dirge]

Wait until you play around with the tyrant mods out there

Shits nutty. Stone tyrant lol for one example

[limber canopy]

Kinda sad that grenades and freeze dont work but other than that i think it'll be fun

[vagrant estuary]

Does anybody really like the weak points mechanic?

[limber canopy]

I think its nice

It makes you think and thats kinda the whole point of the game

[vagrant estuary]

Is the ancient gods all what doom players talk about now

[young mango]

No, a lot of players are still fairly invested in the main campaign, running ultra nightmare is fairly fun

[vagrant estuary]

Man it kinda makes me sad that the last update was last year

[jolly kernel]

I need some battlemode achievements

[young mango]

Yep

[vagrant estuary]

battlemode is too forgettable

I feel like doom is all about the campaign

[sacred dirge]

Some games just hold water with replayability. Games don't need constant updates and battle passes to still be fun and replayable

Thats a modern mystery why thats a standard

[azure forum]

Battlemode is pretty good once you get into it

[young mango]

I should play some battlemode

Except im scared because it’s either I go against some kid playing doom for their first time, OR some veteran who’s been playing battlemode since launch, I don’t think there’s any inbetween

[mint oriole]

man just explained my matches

first two matches were some players who were below level 5

third match was a slayer level 216

or 116 not sure

[young mango]

Eh 216 isn’t too much

I’m about 150+ with 3 prestige under my belt

[broken forum]

@young mango what are your key binds

[young mango]

Surprisingly just default, except caps lock is dash, chaingun and bfg are on my mouse buttons but I don’t use them

[broken forum]

Okay

So guns are numbers right?

[young mango]

Yes

A lot of people might say it’s awkward but I’m just acclimated to it I suppose

[broken forum]

This is running not great

Okay yeah I can’t run this lol

But I can run dying light

[glass totem]

Just did Cultist Base on Nightmare. Only had two deaths! It was crazy fun!

[simple viper]

[lyric isle]

so apparently marauder doesnt even take damage to a bfg shot???

[simple viper]

Yeah it's dumb

You also can't crucible them

[lyric isle]

bru ;-;

why

[simple viper]

Idk I was playing final sin on nightmare and I didn't want to fight the marauder so I tried to crucible him and it didn't work and crucibled a zombie

[lyric isle]

so now i get why everyone thinks hes op

[jolly kernel]

it's really amazing how you manage to master the features of the game or strategies made by the community. usually, the first few attemps are failures with only a few successful attempts, but the more you do it, the more often successful attemps happen

[simple viper]

Yeah but the only one that I found a pain in the ass was the 2 on immora

[lyric isle]

true
1/100 deaths to the Mars Core slayer gate would lead to a small chance of success which is also a 1/100 chance

and that 1/100 chance is divided into two
either a: you die
or b: you dont

[jolly kernel]

honestly, I can't bring myself to use the rocket launcher aside from sometimes using lock-on rockets

[young mango]

Goddamnit the brain in nekravol refused to break and it ended my UN run

[lyric isle]

OOF

[young mango]

Dying to a glitch is painful because it’s not your fault

[lyric isle]

hold on
when you die on a UN run on a specific mission
do you return to the first mission? or do you return to the start of said specific mission?

[young mango]

You have to restart the entire game yes

[lyric isle]

oh

damn

[jaunty vapor]

He can take damage from BFG. But the tendril damage itself is very low (and also you need to fire the BFG BEFORE he spawns for it to hit him otherwise he will block it).

To hit with impact/splash you either need to falter him first, or hit him while he's mid jump from lower/higher elevation.

[jaunty vapor]

Nowadays nobody really thinks he's OP. There's countless ways of killing them quickly and/or safely, depending on what's needed by the person playing.

[young mango]

Hey bloodshot do you ever get fucked over like that in the campaign

Because I was so mad that that shit happened

[jaunty vapor]

It happens

Depends on what happens.

SGN Teeth Gates not opening is one that is very rare, but happens enough that when it DOES happen it's infuriating.

[young mango]

Eugh I don’t even wanna run UN right now anymore I feel so cheated out of that run especially so far into it

[jolly kernel]

really though, how often do you guys use the rl?

[jaunty vapor]

A lot

Pb Rocket is a very fast quick swap. Then of course there's lock on, and on top of that SLOBS.

[young mango]

I haven’t used pb rocket in forever

Two weapon combos kinda just go out the window after you learn punchswapping imo, my favorite combo in general tho is using pb, two sticky bombs, a rocket than a ballista, it takes out pretty much every heavy demon except the PE and it’s fun to pull off

[jolly kernel]

lmao

I just tried to type Doom Eternal slob on youtube and accidentally typed slow instead of slob

[idle badger]

Yo

[young mango]

I was never a big fan of two weapon combos before learning punchswapping either, mostly I did pb rocket pb ballista

So bloodshot do you have any mods you’d personally recommend? I know you say reclaimed earth a lot but I’ve already played it.

[jolly kernel]

I can't tell what I'm doing wrong because this fucking slob strategy doesn't work in my case

I use pb then quickly swap to the rl, yet it still slowly loads the rockets

[young mango]

So you fire a precision bolt, you fire a rocket, and right after you fire that rocket you initiate the lock on burst, and as a beginner I’d recommend spamming left click while it’s the mod is activated when you begin because the timing is strict

Hope this helps👍

[jolly kernel]

do I have to hold the weapon mod button before or after firing the rocket?

[young mango]

After firing the rocket

So it’s basically a quick pb rocket, and then lock on as quick as you can after that

[jolly kernel]

I can’t tell what I’m doing wrong. the swapping speed in regards to a rl and pb combo feels random

sometimes it’s lightning fast, while often it takes some time

[jaunty vapor]

I don't play that many really. Protehs Horde Mode and Horde Mode 2 are good (first one is better designed, second is more challenging).

Got a new PC Set Up now so maybe ill do more.

[jolly kernel]

just found out, you like have to immediately switch after firing the rocket

but man, it’s so fast that it feels confusing

I really don’t have enough reflexes for that fast quickswapping

[strange gale]

mashing mouse1 there is straight up just optimal, worst case is you get a few (single digits) extra frames of delay between slobs

[jolly kernel]

geez trying to do rl + pb quite literally hurt my hands

it’s so fucking damn fast

[hazy surge]

are they gonna make Season 8 or anymore into DLC?

@ me with responce

[azure oriole]

@hazy surge what

[hazy surge]

u know the cosmetic packs

they did them for season 1 to 7, just wondering if they're gonna do more

[lapis saddle]

They aren’t. We’ve had the existing season content on loop for the last year or so

They seem to have fully shifted gears to the new project that may or may not be Doom related

[jolly kernel]

actually, it’s not because it’s fast
for some fucking reason I often swap before firing

[azure oriole]

Oh right yeah I doubt it. Must not have generated enough profit or something

[lapis saddle]

I doubt the plan was ever to do it for years and years anyway.

It would be very unlikely for that to make more business sense than doing it while DLC and other playable content was being developed then move on to the next game

[jolly kernel]

really though, I can’t tell why I just switch from the heavy cannon to the rocket launcher frequently without firing it

actually, I think I started to do it properly

[main cosmos]

My game freezes randomly I’m not sure why but apparently it has happened with other amd gpu user. Any fix?

[jolly kernel]

oh fuck man COME ON

just look at how I screw this up so bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmWccXPo3w

[glass totem]

I do that occasionally, I've been practicing so I don't mess up.

You can also hold the fire button during the switching animation, so the rocket launcher can fire as soon as its ready.

Also I did Doom hunter base on Nightmare. Picked up an extra life and lost it. Technically, that should count as a death.

[limber canopy]

I did it

[azure forum]

if you are on console, PB rocket is super easy to do with remote detonation mod

[limber canopy]

I beat mars core on UN

[azure forum]

Im proud of you son, good job

[limber canopy]

You know what

The final arena has got to be my favourite in this whole game so far

That is THE doom experience

Phew

Good stuff

[azure oriole]

I’m a big fan of that whole final level

Awesome seeing the Icon roaming around

[jolly kernel]

for some reason, images I take in photo mode are still dark, as if the photo mode menu is still present

[limber canopy]

Seriously?

[pulsar yoke]

Try rolling back your drivers to 22.11.1, apparently that's helping many people that experience the freezing lately.

[glass totem]

What is Doom Eternal like on the Steam controller?

[jolly kernel]

how can I fix that, I want to take images with that feature

nvm I found the solution

[limber canopy]

Cool

[jolly kernel]

as you can see, I somehow often switch before firing for whatever reason

[limber canopy]

I accidentally became good at comboing

[limber canopy]

No

I still have taras nabad and the world spear left

[lilac valley]

hey i just bought the deluxe version on the switch but i cant get any of the deluxe stuff thats included even after hitting the reconcile entitlements button and completing my account setup, does anyone know how to fix it 😭

[young mango]

@jaunty vapor hey i know youre a tech guy so i thought you would find this interesting, but for some reason you can use full auto as a prerequisite to rocket punch swapping

[random vault]

probably contact ID/Bethesda and ask for help

[lilac valley]

fair enough ill try that ty

[young mango]

While this is Interesting it’s a combination that will never have any practical use

[strange gale]

you can create a slob-applicable fast state with automatic weapons (that aren't hc) by firing some number of shots, with pr it's 8 shots but idk if that number is universal

pr's 8 shot threshold also applies to yeetblasting so there's some underlying connection in the weapon state machine

[young mango]

I know it’s just surprising because the full auto only needs two shots and also has an even slower bring up time than the rocket so it’s weird that it’s happening

[strange gale]

i'm thinking the prerequisite there might be holding the fire button for an arbitrary amount of time and not a specific number of shots

this is just intuition but 8 plasma shots take about as long to fire as 2 fa shots, no?

[young mango]

Not sure

[glass totem]

Fav hud?

Definitely exterminator for me. Love the shades of red and orange.

[azure oriole]

UAC fo me

[dull herald]

i thought uac was universally a bad color among the community but i always loved it and used it since launch

i probably thought that cause mayo used it

[vagrant estuary]

God I am terrible at precision bolt

Is the micro missiles not that used anymore? Is the pb what the best doom players use now

[grave gate]

Which doom slayer skin is your favorite

Mine is the zombie slayer skin

[dull herald]

default slayer is the best slayer

[azure oriole]

They should add a cacodemon pet that follows you around

[lyric isle]

mine is 2016 preator suit

[lapis saddle]

2016 Praetor suit

[lyric lodge]

The dad bod skin

[slow sigil]

Never really was used much

[lapis saddle]

I use micro missiles sometimes because they’re fun to use.

[turbid jetty]

Micro Missles are kind of a crowd control mod I guess

although I don't find much use for them

[slow sigil]

Cause there isnt

Other mods outshine it and the time it takes to swap weaponmods is too long to be worth it

[turbid jetty]

tbh I think every mod except that one has a decent use at some point

full auto shotgun and microwave beam also go pretty overlooked, but at least full auto shotgun gives you shotgun ammo back each kill and microwave beam stuns enemies and provides a measure of their health

[midnight sparrow]

Full auto shotgun and Microwave beam where getting so much attention during TAG1 and 2 wdym? UnderTheMayo wouldn’t shut the fuck up about full auto to the point the devs gave it a buff. And Microwave Beam got used more cause of Spirits.

Even with fully mastered full auto is way more useful to just chainsaw enemies instead as well.

[turbid jetty]

well I was more referring to base game over expansions

I had actually forgotten that the exapansions gave them more to do till you mentioned it just now

what buff did they give to the full auto shotgun? damage increase?

[midnight sparrow]

Removed the zoom in when you wind it up and also made it so you no longer are slowed down when using it

[turbid jetty]

huh, interesting

[slow sigil]

Mbeam's stun is quite meaningless, it's better to just damage them and falter them via damage
You also see health with the visual decay of demons

FA's ammo giveback is useless cause you still have to reload your other ammo types
It's handy with 4x damage though ig but apart from horde you dont do that much

[turbid jetty]

the best use I personally have found for the microwave beam aside from killing spirits is to finish off the last heavy or super heavy demon in an arena, and even then it's not the most effective way to deal with them

[slow sigil]

It requires a very specific combo to get a (super)heavy low enough to simply tap them

But then it is pretty ok

[lapis saddle]

I almost never PB at this point. It’s very useful but it’s also boring and I hate it

[slow sigil]

How is pb more boring then generic "shoot faster" mod

[lapis saddle]

Which mod you referring to?

[slow sigil]

Mm

[lapis saddle]

I find the general emphasis on quickswap to be one of the most frustrating parts of modern Doom anyway (mostly because it overshadows automatic weapons) so I kinda resent a weapon mod that is mostly used for quickswap. I’m currently playing with no mod upgrading and the base version of mm is kinda neat as a burst of mini rockets but in limited volleys

[slow sigil]

Yeah in a limited volley it's fairly neat, though sadly still outshadowed

Same for FA, i wished 2016's triple shot was there and have it be like that if all shots hit the last one puts them on fire or something

[lapis saddle]

That could be interesting.

One of the things that I like about classic Doom specifically is how the chaingun isn’t damage efficient but it’s the only reliable way to stunlock cacodemons so it is mostly a utility weapon. You can also snipe with it kind of by tap firing but mostly it’s the stunlock gun

Made it very useful without it directly competing with the rocket launcher or SSG or whatever

[slow sigil]

Yeah there is no real utility for chaingun in eternal

Becausr they made faltering a bit more just an"everything" thing with also more emphasis on dodging

[lapis saddle]

Classic Doom is still pretty dodging heavy but cacodemons in particular are tricky in more claustrophobic environments so not having to dodge (or even just having one fewer enemies to dodge) can make things way more manageable

[lyric lodge]

i mean yeah ig it is just some sniper but i dont see why its so boring tbh

[turbid jetty]

personally I don't like quick swap

[lapis saddle]

Because sniping goes against the whole emphasis on aggression thing. Also because its real utility is the quickswap BS that makes automatic weapons compete directly with the single fire weapons

[turbid jetty]

I hate that quickswap is the most efficient way to play the game when I find it very unfun

[azure oriole]

You don't need to be able to quickswap in order to play the game like pros

[lapis saddle]

I mostly ignore quickswap in favor of using the guns in more conventional ways. You can definitely do well without quickswap but its harder

[slow sigil]

Just waut till you learn about BATs

[azure oriole]

Some people take advantage of the buttons they have on the mouse to quickswap which is like

[slow sigil]

But damage is just a part of the game, still many other regions you gotta be good on

[azure oriole]

yes

[lyric lodge]

BATS is pretty much another technique for faster quickswapping if im not mistaken

[slow sigil]

It's quickswapping but extreme

Also actually, the best dps technique isnt even quickswapping
It's that shield thing but hyper

[lyric lodge]

they be quickswapping faster than me trying to quickly type trying to explain why i posted disgusting shit (i got hacked)

[azure oriole]

lol

[lapis saddle]

Mostly I hate how quickswapping makes SSG, rockets, and ballista go from a quick burst of damage but worse for sustained damage to just the way to do big damage since you can effectively circumvent the firing speed limit

[slow sigil]

Theres still some fire speed limits and range limits

[azure oriole]

Quickswapping is the reason why people say Doom Eternal is easier to complete on un than doom 2016

[slow sigil]

Quickswapping was worse in 2016 though wasnt it

Alpha loop or whatever it was called

[azure oriole]

the holo swap made it overpowered

[azure oriole]

yes

[lapis saddle]

Halo swap meaning the multiplayer mode thing?

[azure oriole]

no, it's when you use the hologram equipment to skip weapon switch animations which makes switching blisteringly fast

[lapis saddle]

Huh

[lyric lodge]

honestly yeah with quickswapping you immediately take away the long cooldown of the ssg

[azure oriole]

can I post a video link here

[slow sigil]

You can

[azure oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4vQ7yYvB4s

[lapis saddle]

I assume the hologram thing is a bug rather than an intended mechanic

[lyric lodge]

yeah because most people who try UN usually already have a good understanding of quickswapping hence making 2016 "harder" because of the limited tech you need to work with

[slow sigil]

Pb swaps also wasnt intented

[azure oriole]

true

[azure oriole]

yes

[slow sigil]

Muddy ground cause the game was specifically coded like that

[lapis saddle]

That is true, but it’s not a bug either, just a stat made weird with unforeseen consequences

[azure oriole]

when i played eternal some caco demon was chillin and it followed me until the skreeonks made me shoot him with a rocket launcher

[drifting raven]

Hola

👻📞

[covert oar]

we’re you supposed to quick swap in 2016

[slow sigil]

you also arent in eternal so that's not really a good point

[covert oar]

they choke on grenades even from the combat shotgun

[slow sigil]

the devs only intented for occasional swapping in eternal

[covert oar]

oh bruh

i’m glad they didn’t change it though

most devs would just massively nerf it so it’s unusable as a playstyle

[turbid jetty]

I mean that's kinda why they had the whole certain weapons more effective on certain enemies thing

like how it said the chaingun is recommended against hell knights, dread knights and barons

kinda envisioning you'd fight one demon with one weapon, another demon with a different weapon

more or less

[jolly kernel]

I accidentally switch before firing for whatever reason

[vagrant estuary]

What sensitivity does zero master use?

[jolly kernel]

oh fuck man I’m just not going to do this precision bolt and rocket launcher combo shit. I frequently screw it up and it frustrates me so much

[young mango]

Practice quickswapping, it will pay off

[midnight sparrow]

It didn’t really have you swapping weapons a lot. It was mostly just shotgun.

A but if chaingun here and there and rocket launcher BFG and plasma for large crowds or the big guys

Nah

Nah that’s just not how I play

[young mango]

Quickswapping is essential in doom eternal, unlike in classic doom where if you just give the plasma rifle infinite ammo you don’t need anything else, but if you give infinite ammo to weapons in doom eternal you still feel compelled to use the technically inferior base arsenal

?

I’m quite literally giving a constructive rebuttal as to why quickswapping in doom eternal is nothing like the swapping you describe in classic doom

Because when you have an Arsenal of 7 weapons in classic doom you’ll obviously feel compelled to use more than just the shotgun

[azure oriole]

That's correct but you're still wrong. You can't quickswap in OG Doom games, there's only like two non-automatic weapons. In Eternal there are four, and you're encouraged to quickswap between them to maximize damage. Swapping damage isn't quick in the original games, and it's more "switch weapons as the scenario requires," not "use four different weapons in 3 seconds to completely vaporize a Mancubus".

[midnight sparrow]

The only old FPS I can think of that has you switching weapons fast is Half-Life and maybe Blood. And even then it’s not essential.

[young mango]

Yes… that might be the “switch weapons as the scenario requires” he described

[azure oriole]

Quickswapping ain't necessary to get a pass on un

[young mango]

Well it’s a big part of it, it’s quite literally in the tutorials of the game, granted it’s not meant to be used to the extent it’s been brought to

[azure oriole]

You're missing my point. When is there ever a situation in OG Doom where you can use four different weapons on one enemy in a short amount of time?

It is a recommended way to play yes but not completely necessary

Further, when is there ever a situation where that's preferable to just shooting them with the Plasma Gun until dead?

[young mango]

Okay there’s a thing that this guy is completely missing, there’s a difference between quick switching and just, switching

[strange gale]

"use weapon appropriate for given context" is a concept shared by every fucking fps game, you're ignoring all the nuance here

[young mango]

?

[midnight sparrow]

Yeah like when I’m playing Doom II I’m not gonna swap from the SSG to the rocket launcher and then to plasma rifle to kill a hell knight

[azure oriole]

The game literally encourages you to do that in the loading screen and recommends it against enemies like the Marauder.

In Doom Eternal, switching weapons is very fast and chaining SSG, Ballista, RL, and PB maximize your damage. In Doom 2, you can switch weapons a lot, yes, but you can't "chain" SSG shots with a sniper shot and a rocket launcher. Switching weapons takes too long, so the damage per second isn't as high as if you just used the SSG until it is dead.

Like an inefficient person, you mean.

[young mango]

Nobodies done that shit since launch

You mean new players

[strange gale]

if dealing no damage is cool in your eyes, why not replace ssg with pb

[young mango]

Yes it’s highly inefficient

[strange gale]

doing like 1500 damage per cycle is no damage in this context

[azure oriole]

You deal more damage when you quickswap with the SSG. That's just objectively true.

[young mango]

How shitty is your grammar that using a word learned in the 5th grade is considered nerdy

[azure oriole]

lol

Like, even just doing SSG -> Ballista every cycle with the Marauder halves the time it takes to kill it. Much less SSG -> Ballista -> SSG

[strange gale]

without quickswapping, you're at best getting 2 ssg shots in which in this situation get scaled to below half the damage they would usually do

that is no damage

[young mango]

Look I understand now, I checked your discord description, “fuck with me and find out” I’m dealing with a cool tough guy here

LMAO

[azure oriole]

bro the freak is ur desc

[young mango]

I’m not even mad at that one that shits funny as hell

[strange gale]

your reading comprehension is so ass that i have to point the important bits out

[azure oriole]

mine?

I think making fun of people for being nerds when you're arguing on Discord about videogames is a bit hypocritical.

[young mango]

Give this man a true

[azure oriole]

Same with console wars

man shut up shithead

[young mango]

Shitbit

[azure oriole]

LMAO

NUMBER 1 ON BEST BRITISH SMILES!

[young mango]

See instead starting it with a capital letter you could have used those italics you oh so despise, but I see you love taking jabs at peoples weight apparently? What’s that about? I’m I dealing with fucking Lambert Quetelet?

[azure oriole]

ur dad came to my mom and is in prison for harassing an 11

year old

This is why 12 year olds shouldn't have phones, man.

[midnight sparrow]

He’s shitting on other play styles that aren’t his. You love to see it.

[azure oriole]

it ur dad shitbit dickbag

[young mango]

Shigbit when I don’t play in the most shitty way possible: 😡

[azure oriole]

I don't need to read videogame wikis, I already know the information by playing the game.

[hushed blade]

average #doom-eternal conversation:

[azure oriole]

No i play soccer and am getting a scholarship ship for engineering

[young mango]

You’re not good at classic doom because you play it like doom eternal and you’re not good at doom eternal because you play it like classic doom @spiral briar

You really wish you would

[azure oriole]

to late u live in a basement looking at feet

[young mango]

And the fact you’re not 17 yet really says a lot

[strange gale]

these games are just like each other because there is a win condition and there is a way to reach the win condition 🤯

[young mango]

Shitbit

[azure oriole]

I'm assuming you're talking about my game, but I think it's funny you had to scroll through my shit to find something to say, dude.

Uh huh.

None

[young mango]

And uh shigbit what do you do in your freetime as opposed to game development and lore reading

[strange gale]

he's leaving in small typos intentionally, psyop

[azure oriole]

Well the "lore reading" thing doesn't take up much of my time anymore. I already know the lore. I've been pretty big on Resident Evil lately, so I've been playing those.

I'm all Doomed out recently.

[random vault]

you simply must bro… or else he’s gunna get you

[azure oriole]

your mom joke is dead bro

[young mango]

Really intelligent comeback, sounds just like a 13 year old said it

[random vault]

where can i find your game, i would invest

[young mango]

Man “I did ur mom” jokes are all played out

[azure oriole]

Link's on my profile! You should invest because it's awesome and cool.

[young mango]

Well maybe if you had the intelligence to read 8000 pages you’d be half as good as I am

[random vault]

nah, younger

[strange gale]

why do you know what homestuck is?

[azure oriole]

Lmao

[random vault]

homestuck fan :death:

[young mango]

Just search “idiot” on google to find all 6000 iterations of shigbit

[azure oriole]

This is really poor material. I think you could do better.

[random vault]

https://tenor.com/view/money-shutup-take-gif-7953571

[young mango]

There’s no publisher it’s a game jolt game you idiot

[azure oriole]

Why would I want to talk to a publisher?

The game's free. We're just making it because it's a hobby. It ain't a money thing, I already have enough money.

[strange gale]

answer the question @spiral briar

[azure oriole]

bruh

[random vault]

shigbit cant decide between shitting on the game or thinking it would be publisher material

[azure oriole]

Well, I appreciate you thinking my game is good enough that it's publisher material, Shigbit.

i think so too

I'll seek out New Blood and tell them you said that.

[young mango]

@spiral briar who’s your favorite troll

[azure oriole]

himself

[young mango]

Dodging the question:

[azure oriole]

"N-n-no, you don't get it, man! I was being MEAN! D-don't you get it?"

the fuck ur speaking moonish

[random vault]

that is a terrorist, not a troll

[young mango]

shitbit you know what homestuck is… you love nepeta

[azure oriole]

dude is such a troll that he likes the planet Uranus for the memes

talking bout u shitbit

[random vault]

when im in a avoiding the conversation challenge and my opponent is shigbit

i could be pakistani, he was domestic there, how could you know?

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-walk-gif-24718162

[strange gale]

shigbit, you seem to know a lot about internet culture for somebody whose entire bit is based on insulting people for knowing about internet culture

[azure oriole]

ouch

[young mango]

Who’syour favoeite troll

[azure oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930146039745376259/1095002027500781660/image.png

[random vault]

LOL

[azure oriole]

Oof

to what

[young mango]

Sh1tb1t 1 know you w4nt to r34d hom3stuck 4g41n

[azure oriole]

the lore to what

bruh

how is this happening in a doom discord

[young mango]

Homestuck jumpscare

[jaunty vapor]

Just another normal day in Eternal chat. 😬

[azure oriole]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/930146039745376259/1095002488228282449/image.png?width=410&height=108

[strange gale]

shocking revelation

[young mango]

Shigbit loves Jake English and dirk strider

[azure oriole]

Sometimes you get self-important dorks who waste their own time wasting other people's time and then stroke themselves off thinking they're cool for the time they wasted.

[young mango]

Until further notice, shigbit ships gamzee and tavros no debate

[azure oriole]

It's a novelty for a couple hours, but it wears off quickly, and said self-important dork usually ends up leaving because mom just finished making the dino nuggets and he's gotta go to sleep early for school tomorrow.

[strange gale]

he's strogan off till he beefs (with strangers online)

[young mango]

Shigbit…. Make fun of me for listening to msi… becuase you know that that is too I bet you nerd

[azure oriole]

Hey man, I didn't put that there, one of the mods did.

[young mango]

Well to be fair he wrote an entire fucking novels worth of the doom lore

And what’s wrong with being gay huh? You homophobic?

[azure oriole]

I am gay, that's not really an insult.

Lmao

[young mango]

<@&162901871168585728> homophobia lol we done here

[azure oriole]

Yeah dude, I'm gay. I pork men. You caught me.

[young mango]

That’s a new one… “pork”

[azure oriole]

lmaoo

[young mango]

Even if it wasn’t homophobia you’ve still been a public nuisance

[azure oriole]

I make up for it by banging yours, so it's alright.

[young mango]

You assume that my life isn’t in order, but it is, a lot more than yours I’m assuming since I don’t do… um, THIS, for fun

Thank you shadow kex

[strange gale]

[azure oriole]

oh he gone

E X T E R M I N A T U S

[young mango]

Hi koma

[lyric isle]

what in the hell happened here lmao

[azure oriole]

man fucked around and found out

[young mango]

Anyways since it’s doom eternal chat I feel like actually bringing this channel back unto topic makes sense, who wants to talk about doom tech?

[azure oriole]

Imagine wielding the DOOM Eternal rocket launcher irl

[young mango]

Speaking of that something I found weird is that remote detonation rockets quite literally are different even In base fire, only cosmetically though

They’re a redder orange than the regular rockets

[cedar girder]

How the hell are some players getting all full stars and max level so fast? How did they farm the exp?

[jolly kernel]

I can do it well with other weapons, but pb + rl is so fast I accidentally swap between either of them without firing

[young mango]

Then slow down

You have to find a metronome type of pace, not too slow, not too fast

[young mango]

I’m just realizing how clever this was because that was quite literally the guys desc

[azure oriole]

[young mango]

Hi koma how are you today

[vagrant estuary]

Does anybody know that "angel with a shotgun" song by the cab? The angel with a shotgun they are talking about is the doomslayer

[strange gale]

that,s awesome bro

[azure oriole]

I love that song, I have it in my playlist often

[cedar girder]

so does someone know how to farm exp in doom eternal? I mean i know it used to work with Sentinel prime, i never gave it much attention when the game came out, but im curious how the hell some players got it so fast

any ideas how to get max levels and all stars that fast?

[jaunty vapor]

There was an exploit similar to Sentinel Prime with the Dark Lord but it got patched, so now currently it's just "do Sentinel Prime on repeat".

[young mango]

It’s not worth it though

Because I did the calculations and it would take about 400 hours straight no breaks to get max prestige if sentinel prime even only took 2 minutes or less

That’s not even taking account for having to reselect and reload the level by the way

So I’ll go time myself real quick and give a more realistic calculation

I’m going to be very generous with this and give myself quad damage and Infinite ammo

[lost quest]

what's the benefit by getting max levels all stars?

[willow jolt]

Finally got eternal
Last played 64
Its been a long time

[azure oriole]

Nice

[young mango]

It’s just a flex, no actual benefit

[jolly kernel]

I honestly can't tell how any human being can do something that is as lightning fast as pb + rl without screwing up often

[lost quest]

yea they should've took advantage by giving unique skins no real reason ppl just playin... also for UN runs they could've linked bethesda store to get discount on UN merch.. something that Id can think abut in the future

[young mango]

So with quad damage infinite ammo BFG spam, it took 2:19.43, so factoring in like if I did this non stop, 438.86 hours of non stop sentinel prime with all possible benefits

[young mango]

No that would incentivize cheating

[lost quest]

tru.. but gettin stars for skins similar to events just xp farmin

[young mango]

Also that means it’s around 10 hours just for one prestige

More specifically 9.14

Also I forgot to factor in the teleporting outside of the level loading, I only factored in the loading that you have when you go INSIDE of it

[jolly kernel]

would not using the pb + rl combo be a bad thing?

[young mango]

It’s okay if you don’t but it’s a fairly beginner friendly combo and getting it down even without using it frequently shows you have sufficient competence in quick switching

[azure forum]

I'd say learning SLOBs is more important if you want to use that combo. I think that eventually using PB SSG or ballista or even PB stickies is better in most cases unless you are trying to delete something quick with slobs

[jolly kernel]

I generally quickswap between the ssg, ballista and pb

if a target is at medium-long range, I use pb + ballista

[random vault]

not funny

[wind thorn]

Sorre

[willow jolt]

Glory (kill)

[jolly kernel]

I don't care about the slob thing too much. even the strongest enemies can be killed in just some seconds anyway

[jolly kernel]

the Whiplash's argent energy projectiles are so difficult to dodge, I always seem to get hit by them

[limber canopy]

Cant blame you

Fuck

Cant post images

[vagrant estuary]

I'm sexually attracted to his bigger brother (pain elemental)

[limber canopy]

Pain elemental is my favourite demon

[azure oriole]

Sentinel hammer>crucible, change my mind

[azure oriole]

Mine is either the doom hunter or the cyberdemon

[young mango]

Cold take everybody agrees with this

[tame topaz]

taras babad

[sacred dirge]

[tame topaz]

favorite master kevel

next to workd spear

[limber canopy]

Crucible has the better design

[azure oriole]

True

[limber canopy]

But yes gameplay wise it is inferior in every way possible

[jolly kernel]

my favourite level is Ukdak

[limber canopy]

They was talking about master levels

Have you played any yet?

[jolly kernel]

nope

[limber canopy]

I've beaten both super gore nest and mars core on ultra nightmare

[jolly kernel]

holy shit

[limber canopy]

[jolly kernel]

in regards to a pb and rl combo, how often you guys manage to screw it up?

[young mango]

Almost never

[jolly kernel]

lmao

[limber canopy]

Which one is rl?

[young mango]

Rocket launcher

[limber canopy]

Ah

I prefer pb ballista

Mostly becouse both are hitscan

[jolly kernel]

I frequently switch between either of the two weapons before firing them for whatever reason

[jolly kernel]

I'm surprised that doesn't happen to you

I genuinely can't tell why I just press the keyboard number keys before firing them

[sacred dirge]

Wolrd pear

[dull herald]

i mess up ssg ballista more than any other combos I partake in

but pb rl is kinda engraved in my memory and i pull it off impulsively

[cedar girder]

so i guess no luck for me to max my level up

[restive sail]

im tryna beat nightmare horde mode

[young mango]

Good luck

[restive sail]

why is there already a doom hunter

[lapis saddle]

Horde mode doesn’t mess around

[jolly kernel]

in regards to a rl and pb combo, does it have to be as fast as videos show?

[jaunty vapor]

Optimal PB rockets are more about getting a rhythm more than 'doing it as fast as possible'.

Also if nobody told you, if you have lock on equipped you cannot hold alt fire to do PB rockets. You'll do the PB, but holding alt fire with lock on prevents the primary fire.

If you want to practice the timing for PB rockets, best way is to have remote det equipped, hold alt fire, and primary fire I think?, and just focus on your swaps themselves

[jolly kernel]

lol

[inland widget]

tfw your reactions are too slow to hotswap and you keep getting mauled on Nightmare ARC Complex Master Level

I'm dying inside

[viral slate]

I never understood why they made the ranger available with quake and didn't do it with doom 64 either

Like they made the doom 64 marine available with an event, but it would make more sense for you to link doom 64 and eternal to get it

[dull herald]

the quake ranger slayer was a celebration of the quake 2021 remaster
doom 64 didnt get a large scale remaster, so the slayer was more of a nod towards doom 64

[viral slate]

Yeah but it still doesn't really make sense to me

[dull herald]

well there are probably better things to spend your precious thought on, no? 🤭🤭

[viral slate]

No I don't have anything to think of

[dull herald]

o

[viral slate]

Other than how bad I am at battlemode

[azure oriole]

Not how that works

[strange gale]

i can quickswap just fine on no sleep, it's bad practice to time your swaps by reacting instead of getting the various rhythms into your muscle memory

[flint ravine]

When the doom man doomed

I 100% the campaign but i need online trophies for plat

[rose matrix]

i’m about to play final sin on ultra violence wish me luck 🤞

[rose matrix]

ok i did it

i think i’ll play super gore nest master level

[dull aurora]

guys i am getting mad stuttering from doom eternal. how can i fix it?

[dull herald]

that depends what you're playing on
if you're on pc, you can try lowering graphics, your game resolution, and other things
if you're on switch its normal lol

[dull aurora]

i made it all low

and its still stuttery

[timid ledge]

So do I use rockets or bloodpunch against Pinkies?

[indigo ferry]

If you can use remote detonation properly, its a good way of saving blood punch

[azure oriole]

I'm on switch and stuttering isn't normal, sometimes it starts stuttering then i just restart the game and it's gone

[azure oriole]

I just killed a zombie by only punching it

[azure oriole]

u should use ssg for pinkys cuz u can meathook around them or double jump over them and 1shot the sail

[azure oriole]

I punch pinkies to death with the blood punch, it's a 1 hit kill no matter where you hit the pinky

[young mango]

Or four rockets against it’s shelled front can put it into stagger/kill because splash damage penetrates the armor

Or alternatively 6 sticky bombs, and also alternatively 3 sticky bombs and 2 rockets

[strange gale]

7 stickies, not 6

[young mango]

Right

Lots of stuff to remember

[strange gale]

oh i didn't know that, i just tested it

[young mango]

Ohh

[midnight sparrow]

Check your graphics drivers to make sure there up to date as well as if you meet the game’s system requirements

[lucid pier]

heyy, can someone help me with the switch version? i bought the deluxe edition on the e-shop, downloaded it and it says "package corrupted" the problem is not from the micro sd, i installed overwatch 2 on it and it works perfectly...

[acoustic lark]

hmm re-download it maybe?

[lucid pier]

already tried haha

[acoustic lark]

Maybe while downloading something got corrupted?