doom-eternal

[ruby epoch]

Also i couldnt find any switch photos of Gold doom slayer

[plucky swallow]

its a dead game now

[plucky swallow]

bro it looks bad trust me

i only used it to flex on kids during battlemode

[ruby epoch]

can i still play battle mode with my freinds?

[plucky swallow]

yeye

ur not gonna find any matches tho

[ruby epoch]

so the servers still run

just i needa play with my freinds

[foggy stratus]

I love the mars core intro scene, seeing how humans react to doomguy is great

[ruby epoch]

why is doomguy so special if he is just a buff guy

[foggy stratus]

because hes not

[plucky swallow]

when i heard samuel haydens voice line again about shooting mars i smiled

[azure forum]

You'll find matches. It is pretty active

[primal estuary]

he is pretty much just a guy

[plucky swallow]

they will be all noobs cause fortnite kids

[ruby epoch]

Quake remake servers are still active

[primal estuary]

a really strong guy

[azure forum]

He's new too though, so that will help him learn

[plucky swallow]

only men learn through suffering

[foggy stratus]

doomguy is so legendary some don't believe hes even real

[ruby epoch]

hes totally a real person for real

[foggy stratus]

its like bigfoot just walking through your office

[primal estuary]

do my eyes see fortnite slander

[ruby epoch]

Its the guy from fortnite!

[primal estuary]

omg trout!! another fish!!

[foggy stratus]

doomguy in fortnite, more kids get into doom because of it, doom gets more fans

net gain for everyoe

[ruby epoch]

Do i need to tap my button once or twice to quick swap?

[foggy stratus]

once

[ruby epoch]

Ok so i just need to time better

[primal estuary]

:D yay water friend!

[azure forum]

Mention the platform as well. If you want to play battlemode, spicy demons server is the best place to find matches

[ruby epoch]

im exited for cheese guy

idc how hard it is i want shiny cheese

[plucky swallow]

ur not getting it

[azure forum]

Not a big deal 👍

[plucky swallow]

if u wanna suffer multiple failed attempts then go ahead

[azure forum]

Also. Welcome

[plucky swallow]

u have to play the entire campaign without dying once, no extra lives or nothng

[azure forum]

Thats horde mode

[plucky swallow]

horde mode is mid

[azure forum]

Battlemode is multiplayer 2 vs 1

[foggy stratus]

ive yet to try horde mode, might after this playthrough

[azure forum]

Horde mode is fun the first couple of times you play it

Then I'd definitely recommend to try horde mode

[ruby epoch]

all 57

bro you better run

if its 1v57

[rigid gorge]

It's really not worth it. But being good at eternal is.

[ruby epoch]

does anyone have a picture of cheese Doom eternal gold

[rigid gorge]

God damn is killing those 4 marauders tough as hell

hm?

[azure oriole]

The marauder is the worst enemy in the game, it’s completely ruins the combat flow

[rigid gorge]

It can, normally I say just spin around him and not play his game. But when there's 4 marauders it seems like "they control the fight".

[ruby epoch]

i just found practice mode

[foggy stratus]

disagree

[ruby epoch]

Woohooo imma practice wepon swapping

[azure oriole]

They chase you throughout the arena and force you to get rid of the wolf, and the only way to attack them is to wait for the green eyes and that’s only a small attack window. Only enough time for a shotgun and ballista and that takes forever

[rigid gorge]

Try doing pb, sticky. It's surprisingly fun

[ruby epoch]

well i suck at quick swapping rn but im gonna practice

[foggy stratus]

marauders are fine, just lure them away and take them out separately its not that hard

[azure oriole]

They’re fine on their own but it’s awful when there’s multiple

[rigid gorge]

No it's not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BYKW2qhm5U&ab_channel=ThyHolyNoodle

[azure oriole]

And like I said, they ruin the flow the came so carefully keeps

[foggy stratus]

lure one away

[azure oriole]

They can get possessed!?

[foggy stratus]

in ag2

[azure oriole]

Oh wait

[rigid gorge]

oh it gets worse

well no it doesn't if you don't play kaiser campaign

[azure oriole]

Yeah I remember now, that horrible level near the end with like 14 marauders

[foggy stratus]

I liked fighting the possessed marauder, couldn't just loop him cause they dont stagger as easily

[rigid gorge]

I think you mean 2. Kaiser Campaign has like 50 though

I'm definitely not a masochist. "I just want to see how much my body can take."

[primal estuary]

in which game

[foggy stratus]

the worst enemy in DE is actually carcasses, they interrupt your combat flow way more than a marauder and simply exist to annoy you

[ruby epoch]

just saw a yt vid on gold doomslayer i still like it on switch

[rigid gorge]

Just kill them

[primal estuary]

the terminator soldier

[foggy stratus]

same for marauders so really whats the issue

[rigid gorge]

btw the red tank on their back is their weak spot

[azure oriole]

Why is there so many enemies in tag1

[foggy stratus]

"but more demons because its dlc"

[rigid gorge]

I think that carcasses are a detriment to their team if you have the plasma rifle

[azure oriole]

It became unfun to fight things because I had to redo an hour long fight with thousands of enemies

[rigid gorge]

I like to freeze a bunch of enemies near the shield and overcharge it

[foggy stratus]

kid named bfg:

those are mecha zombies

fodder enemies that shoot at you

[slow sigil]

How are you taking an hour on a singular arena?

[rigid gorge]

use the pb in the body to get a free glory kill

[foggy stratus]

why are you telling me this

ik how to play the game

[rigid gorge]

also definitely didn't spend 3 hours trying to do this without the trap

[foggy stratus]

what trap

[rigid gorge]

because I don't know who you are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk2WrEqG7JU&ab_channel=ThyHolyNoodle

[foggy stratus]

but what incentivized you to tell me that though

[rigid gorge]

idk I like sharing tips

Like for the fact that micromissiles do damage to doom hunters even with their shields.

[foggy stratus]

yeah, its weird

[rigid gorge]

yes, but as to why you wouldn't only go to for their sled idk

[foggy stratus]

I always just ssg/ballista or turret mode the sled away and then do a rocket lock on them which usually kills them or puts them in GK

[rigid gorge]

Like if I have 2 blood punches (I've forgotten how to play with everything unlocked after playing kaiser campaign's first 3 levels for way too long)

that doom hunters is fucked beyond belief

[foggy stratus]

also if theres a big fight im planning to bfg in that I know has a doom hunter, ill wait for him to appear so the bfg takes out the sled

super shotgun

[rigid gorge]

ssg if all the pellets hit. Btw, a good follow up to destroying the sled is a full auto barrage

also bfg is for newbs laughs like a dumbass

[foggy stratus]

thats a doom hunter

[rigid gorge]

Blood Punches

[foggy stratus]

shoot the sled they're riding first, that will disable the shield when its destroyed

yeah the hammer is fun

just dont forget you have it like I keep doing

[ruby epoch]

exited to unlock cheese gold

Im practicing wepon swapping still...

brooo i did my first combo

Finally Took long enough

[foggy stratus]

Un shouldn't even be touched until you're doing regular nm runs with very few deaths and find nm to be easy in general

[ruby epoch]

Shotgun snipe sticky grenade

Very very neat

[cobalt eagle]

I was trying to do Sylar dual rocket burst for a while now, but no luck yet. It seems that I always shoot a second single rocket after locking on, despite "lock on" being displayed when I press lmb. Any tips on what is wrong with my timing?

[ruby epoch]

i have learned my first doom combo YAY finally

[rigid gorge]

Gain the trait: King Novic PTSD

[ruby epoch]

neat

[cobalt eagle]

How so?

[ruby epoch]

Bc i cant do anything close to that yet bc i just learned shotgun snipe sticky

[rigid gorge]

Would this apply to kaiser campaign

hmm actually I can answer that question myself

[foggy stratus]

idk what that is

[rigid gorge]

Fun for crackheads skilled players

[cobalt eagle]

It is kinda frustrating, tbh. At least you can learn quick switch combo's without any demons, and when you fumble something you know what you are fumbling

Here I am kinda at a loss

[clear stirrup]

guys

[ruby epoch]

yes?

[rigid gorge]

It's a mod that adds new demons, new secrets, reworks arenas and so much more. Basically he remade how eternal works.

[clear stirrup]

I draw a cacodemon

[ruby epoch]

neat

i have no experience from any doom game i heard eternal was good

[cobalt eagle]

Good job

[rigid gorge]

Finish the game first my dude

[rigid gorge]

Kaiser Campaign is meant for people who want a challenge. Then again he adds a bunch of powerups that make a lot of things trivial. Not to mention the hammer

[flint flame]

Pb rocket -> hold right click after you fire -> fire the lock on while holding right click -> fire again

[clear stirrup]

guys I sent a drawing of the cacodemon in #artwork

[serene pilot]

looks great

[cobalt eagle]

Thanks for a breakdown, gonna go try it

[clear stirrup]

thanks

[serene pilot]

although i never realized cacodemons had a nutsack

[cobalt eagle]

Nice caco

[clear stirrup]

xd

[serene pilot]

i guess that's where they store their orbs

shooting orbs would be like wanking off for them then

cacodemons get off to fighting the slayer, a theory

[flint flame]

[rigid gorge]

That's not how plasma works, but sure

[serene pilot]

hey btw how the fuck do i take a screenshot in this game
it disables snip tool and lightshot, pretty much any way i know how to take a ss

[flint flame]

You have to use the built in photo mode, enable it in settings

[serene pilot]

ok thanks

[rigid gorge]

Is the heatblast any good against hordes of marauders?

[flint flame]

Hordes of marauders?

If you’re fighting more than 3 marauders, at that point just kill them with splash damage with rockets and sticky bombs to their feet

[rigid gorge]

I'm fighting 4 of them, trying to not use the cultist based trap that was clearly intended for them.

[flint flame]

Oh yeah, you’re playing Kaiser campaign right?

[rigid gorge]

I'm going back and forth down the first trapped hallway with and ssg blast and a rocket to follow up then trying my best to dodge them.

[random vault]

😟

[rigid gorge]

yee, trying to be it on un without chaingun shield, lockon, the hammer, powerups, or other cheese (for the most part, those screaming blueberries, and armors can be really useful)

[crimson forge]

Is the hammer really that powerful

[tacit stump]

The hammer, as well as the chaingun shield, are great "I need a moment" tools.

You use them when you need to take a second to reassess the situation.

[slow sigil]

The hammer will:

1. Stun EVERYONE around you for a solid amount of time
2. Give you practically all your ammo back without having to waste 5 seconds chainsawing
3. Completely fill up your hp/armour if you so wished by using icebomb/flamebelch
4. Can recharge within the stunperiod if you really tried

[crimson forge]

Ok but can it instakill any enemy in the game

Except the marauder whoops

It might not be an enemy area

[tacit stump]

I mean, it can extend the Marauder's stun time long enough for you to dispose of him in one go.

Do you use Steam?

F12.

[jagged knot]

I have a question

What is the computer for in slayers room in the campaign

[foggy stratus]

gaming

[tacit stump]

Literally, ahahahah.

[jagged knot]

but like nothing shows up on it

[foggy stratus]

because hes not using it

[jagged knot]

But whenever I go on it I can’t do anything

[foggy stratus]

try the other monitor

[tacit stump]

If you complete the campaign, you'll unlock the 1993 Doom on it, and by inserting a secret code, you unlock Doom 2, and you can play them on it.

[foggy stratus]

the one that looks like its from the 90s

[jagged knot]

a secret code?

[rigid gorge]

There's a lot of other people who can help with that. But if you want with help with kaiser campaign nightmare then talk to me

[crimson forge]

The code is FLYNNTAGGART, if memory serves

[foggy stratus]

which is a reference to the comics

[crimson forge]

Not just beating the campaign, you gotta find all the cheat codes, including the Quakecon one, which only unlocks once you have all the others

[tacit stump]

Yeah, that is correct, forgot to mention that!

[jagged knot]

I need all of the cheat codes?

[foggy stratus]

to unlock doom 1 in doomguys room yes

[tacit stump]

Yep.

[jagged knot]

I’m never gonna get all of them

[foggy stratus]

why not

[jagged knot]

it’s gonna take awhile

[foggy stratus]

no it wont

[crimson forge]

Yeah If you put some praetor suit points to get the upgrade that tells you where all the secret items are it gets easier

[slow sigil]

With the time you are given, practically

[foggy stratus]

just use mission select, you dont need to complete the level again when you grab it, once you grab it you can immediately exit the level

[slow sigil]

The hammer is objectivally more interesting then the crucible

[crimson forge]

I prefer the crucible tbh even though I rarely use it

[ruby epoch]

when i playthrough the game does my upgrades stay?

[crimson forge]

Yep

[ruby epoch]

Bro

How long does it take to max out everything

[weak jetty]

yes

@everyone whats yall's most hated character

[slow sigil]

game barely has a history with characters how can you hate 1

[ruby epoch]

Like everything exept guns?

[weak jetty]

enemy

[ruby epoch]

or what

[weak jetty]

your most hated enemy

[slow sigil]

probs marauder then

i'm not counting carcasses because they are literally designed that way

[jagged knot]

if you get doom 2 on the computer in doom eternal is it the full game

[slow sigil]

yeah

[tacit stump]

I hate Samuel Hayden, or whatever ancient being that they turned him into.

[slow sigil]

but it's already free online and playing it in doom is kinda a shit way to play it lmfao

hell you can go into the files and copy that, then use a program to run the game

[jagged knot]

well that’s kinda cool I guess

I play on ps4

[slow sigil]

you can run doom2 on even the most shitty of phones

[jagged knot]

why are you asking that here

[jagged knot]

I know but it’s actually hard to play on phone because of the small screen

[slow sigil]

plug in a monitor and controller

[jagged knot]

how the hell do you even do that

[slow sigil]

not sure i'm not that techsavy

[jagged knot]

okay

[blissful moth]

Hi. Why sometimes the heavy cannon corsshair turns white, and then to yellow?

[jagged knot]

I don’t think it’s the game you might just be thinking it’s white

Because it’s usually yellow

[sacred dirge]

Dot crosshair gang

[charred crag]

Tips on how to beat doom on ultra nightmare

[tacit stump]

inb4 someone says "Don't die."

[young mango]

Alright guys mars core master level gotta be the most annoying one to run sheerly because of the elevator animation, other than that tho it’s one of the easier ones, it’s like third place

Like

1. Taras nabad
2. World spear
3. Mars core
4. Super gore nest
5. Arc complex
6. Cultist base

[azure oriole]

What is this list

[young mango]

Master levels difficulty

[azure oriole]

Which order

Easy to hard or hard to easy starting from the top

[young mango]

Taras Nabad being hardest cultist base being easiest

[azure oriole]

Ok

I dread having to fight the Tara’s nabad colosseum thing on master

[azure forum]

I think WS is harder

[young mango]

It is, at first

But Taras Nabad no crucible no bfg is actually hellish

[weak jetty]

guys

[azure oriole]

What does master do

[young mango]

Basically an enemy revamp of a regular leve

[azure oriole]

Is it as simple as increasing the enemy

[weak jetty]

when i buy doom 2, do i get the ancient god 1 and 2 on doom eternal?

[young mango]

Like for super gore nest for example in the master level you see a tyrant before you even enter the first arena

[weak jetty]

nice thx

[azure oriole]

😅

Is that the big shield boy

[young mango]

no

[weak jetty]

so if i buy the year one pass i get the ancient god 1 and 2 forever or just for 1 year

[viral solstice]

guys i just boughy year one pass instead of the campaign

[azure forum]

Oh yeah, TN without super weapons is brutal

[viral solstice]

can i play part one and 2 without playing the campaign?

[azure oriole]

Can the sword one shot all non boss enemies

[young mango]

Yes, except doom hunter, which takes two pips for some ungodly reason

[viral solstice]

ok

[weak jetty]

after i finished the boss fight with the doom hunter, i was literely sweating because it was that hard💀

at the beginning of the fight, you only had to fight one doom hunter first, and when i fought him after about 30 minutes, i was so relieved that i realized that you still have to fight two more

but i wonder why they made the doom hunter as a boss if he appeared as a "normal enemy" in the following fights anyway💀

imagine with the final boss💀 💀

fr💀

do you mind adding me on discord?

[plucky swallow]

.

[ruby epoch]

the arm cannon guy so far thicc boi

i just started yesterday

[sacred dirge]

Big boi

[ruby epoch]

yeah

so far but im still learning.. my learned combo i made myself learn was Shotgun Snipe sticky grenade

So far

well it was probrobly discovered alry but thats what i learned

[chilly tusk]

At first I wasn't sure how to feel about Doom Eternal. The game assaults you in the first hour with like 15 different ability bars and it felt like it was completely ruining the beautiful simplicity of Doom

Now that I'm acclimated tho I'm liking the game a lot

[ruby epoch]

me learning 50000 combos for doom with only three guns:

[azure oriole]

Yeah I was overwhelmed with all the new abilities at first too

[ruby epoch]

its ok i want butter armour

[graceful lark]

I'm about to beat doom eternal nightmare mode

[azure oriole]

[ruby epoch]

im gonna do the unthinkable

[graceful lark]

what

[ruby epoch]

Beat doom eternal no gyro on 30 FPS toaster

[graceful lark]

I barely play at 20 fps sometimes lmao

[ruby epoch]

On max nightmare

[azure oriole]

It took me a second to understand the practicality of flame belch and frag grenade

[graceful lark]

same bro

[azure oriole]

I still need to practice quick-swapping weapons

[graceful lark]

good luck it isnt easy

[ruby epoch]

Me forgetting to do both

[azure oriole]

Flame belch is OP as fuck

okay maybe a overstatement

[graceful lark]

use the cyro bomb and then flame belch.

[azure oriole]

Yes, that’s one of my favorite combos

[graceful lark]

it fucks up my framerate tho

[azure oriole]

To deal with that rat faced piece of shit Whiplash demon

[ruby epoch]

is it the snek

[graceful lark]

ong they are so fucking annoying

[azure oriole]

Yeah

[ruby epoch]

Oh i had no issues with them i died like twice bc i was learning trying to remember to chainsaw demons for ammo

[azure oriole]

People say to not got for glory kills every time but I do anyways for the convenience of invincibility and blood punch

And also it makes me feel like a bad ass, especially with Cacodemons and Pain Elementals

[ruby epoch]

No you should always glory kill Any big demon And somtimes save the small ones for hp and or not take massive damage from enemies:

[crimson forge]

Idk if the health dropped from glory kills decays over time but hey if I don’t have to worry about a demon after I glory kill it then imma do it every time

[ruby epoch]

Well the Small demons do so minimum damage that better to save them

[pastel onyx]

I need help with a dlc that I bought but it isnt there

[crimson forge]

Plus the fodder demons respawn until the last heavy is killed so yeah

[ruby epoch]

Sounds like a switch problem

[pastel onyx]

Im on a computer :/

[ruby epoch]

Bruuuuuuu

well i dont have pc so idk

So what upgrades always stay in playthroughs? or do they all stay and you just unlock guns and stuff

[crimson forge]

What kind of upgrades, there’s like six different systems

[ruby epoch]

What systems dont?

[crimson forge]

If you start another save file then you start at square one, if you replay missions within the already finished save file, you keep everything

[ruby epoch]

Like any of the six

im noob so

[crimson forge]

Well you don’t keep any runes, weapon mods, praetor suit upgrades, weapon upgrades, sentinel crystals, or other stuff between save files

[ruby epoch]

im not making multiple

[crimson forge]

They stay on the same save file but if you’ve unlocked things like slayer skins then yeah they’re yours regardless of the save you use

When you finish the game you keep everything

[jagged knot]

if you fast travel back to an area can you get the secrets still??

[ruby epoch]

neat So basically you build up to nightmare mode

[pastel onyx]

yes

[crimson forge]

Nah you can’t change difficulty once you start it

[jagged knot]

But for some reason I can’t get one

[pastel onyx]

what?

[ruby epoch]

no like i ment each playthrough you build up enough to win max difficulty

[crimson forge]

You have to make a new save file in order to change the difficulty and thus you don’t keep the upgrades you got in a previous save

[ruby epoch]

I saw i can change the difficulty in my settings tho

[jagged knot]

?

[crimson forge]

I don’t think it lets you go to nightmare, I have no idea

Or it doesn’t let you go to ultra nightmare at least

[pastel onyx]

you can get secrets traveling back, you must not be doing it right

[jagged knot]

but I’m fast travelling

[crimson forge]

Can you tell which one? Which level?

Fast travel doesn’t give you the secrets automatically, you still have to find them

[jagged knot]

I’m on cultist base

[jagged knot]

I know where it is but whenever I walk up to it I just go through it

Nothing happens

[crimson forge]

What kind of secret are we looking at, is it like a giant green fish

[jagged knot]

No

It’s that one box room with all the demons in them

[pastel onyx]

the one with the flying demons?

and tentacles?

[jagged knot]

what no

[boreal patio]

Is anyone having issues with the steam deck the controller is not working

[pastel onyx]

be more descriptive dude

I have no idea what you are talking about

[jagged knot]

There’s broken chains you have to hit and each time you hit them a metal box goes up to the ceiling

And demons spawn

[pastel onyx]

" And demons spawn " bro everywhere demons spawn, go on youtube. I forgot how to get that one

[jagged knot]

I know where the secret is but for some reason I can’t claim it

[pastel onyx]

then it isnt a secret

[jagged knot]

Then why is there a question mark?

[pastel onyx]

send a sreenshot

[jagged knot]

idk how I’m gonna do that but one sec

[crimson forge]

Ooh, there’s a platforming puzzle there, there should be a set of monkey bars near that, you have to swing up on those to reach it

[jagged knot]

I did that

But I couldn’t get it even though I literally was standing in it

[boreal patio]

Like when playing doom eternal the controls is not working I can't get pass the main menu

In any other game it works fine but doom eternal no

[pastel onyx]

did you have google or chrome open before you opened doom? Did you open doom on steam?

[boreal patio]

No I'm on the steam deck

[jagged knot]

I have done that and whenever I go into the question mark I don’t get anything

The question mark is still there

[boreal patio]

I'm not on desktop mode

[pastel onyx]

so you want to close or hit the " - " before doom eternal opens on steam

[crimson forge]

Might have to reload a checkpoint, idk

[jagged knot]

Let me try that

[patent stream]

Have you checked the controller layout with the steam button under controller settings

[jagged knot]

YES IT WORKED

[boreal patio]

I didn't mess the controls up

[boreal patio]

It's on the recommended template

It's the game 100%

[patent stream]

Have you tried switching to a different template?

Standard controller template for example?
Or keyboard and mouse template?

[boreal patio]

I switch to a different template didn't work

Only the keyboard and mouse template works

[azure forum]

What do you have set as default input?

If you go to controller settings, you can change the order of the controller inputs

[boreal patio]

Enable controller is on

Still not working

Well shit

It work before like when I got the steam deck

[upper sky]

Do you guys like my immediate answer

[sacred cedar]

Tf

[opal galleon]

[random vault]

😟

[upper sky]

I'm sane I promise

[foggy stratus]

my reaction to that information:

[upper sky]

Guys I'm ok in the head

[crimson forge]

I know the Microwave beam is commonly used with the Plasma Rifle because of the Spirit in the DLC but barring the DLC is the heat blast better with the increased damage mod?

[ruby epoch]

How many hours is the storyline

[flint flame]

First playthrough 21 hours

[crimson forge]

I have no idea now that I think about it

[buoyant bolt]

hi guys

[ruby epoch]

21 houuuurs brruuuuu

[buoyant bolt]

i'm new

[flint flame]

On repeat playthrough a you can bring it down to like 7

[flint flame]

Hm yes this campaign is made out of campaign

[crimson forge]

Is that including all weapons or what

[ruby epoch]

welp its gonna be a loooong ultranightmare mode

[flint flame]

Bro you’re jumping straight to UN?

[ruby epoch]

no

Im not that stupid

[flint flame]

No, just a slow playthrough to figure out what to do

At a regular pace

[crimson forge]

Ah that makes sense

And now that you know what you’re doing and where to go it takes far less time

[ruby epoch]

Dang i really want the gold doom guy even tho its gonna look like shiny mustard on nintendo switch

[buoyant bolt]

i play on switch

[opal galleon]

Me too

[ruby epoch]

idc i want gold

[crimson forge]

I’d do it more for the actual achievement of completing ultra nightmare and having the gold slayer as a bonus

[foggy stratus]

get the phobos skin

[ruby epoch]

phobos?

[foggy stratus]

basically gold skin but arguably better and way easier to get

[crimson forge]

It’s like a metallic orangish, it’s pretty good, but not the solid gold

[ruby epoch]

show but ill still beat nightmare

[foggy stratus]

beat the game in extra life mode with at least 10 lives at the end

[crimson forge]

Nightmare and ultra nightmare are two different beasts, because in UN you cannot die or the game is over and you have to restart the campaign

[ruby epoch]

i dont like it

[crimson forge]

The Phobos skin?

[ruby epoch]

i need that gold all around

[ruby epoch]

its not fully gold

[crimson forge]

Yeah, but if you want that golden skin, then by all means, go for it

Probably gonna be hella tough on switch but hey it’s your game

[ruby epoch]

well

i seem to wepon swap well on 30 fps ill be fine like the combo version i just forget to grenade and Fire everything which is the problem

[opal galleon]

Play the game enough and it's not, I've done it on there a few times

[buoyant bolt]

true

[crimson forge]

On Ultra Nightmare?

[opal galleon]

Yes

[crimson forge]

Damn nice, I know I’m not that good

[buoyant bolt]

oh nvm

[ruby epoch]

you wouldnt think fn switch players are good but then you got me! ill learn eventually

[buoyant bolt]

certain games on switch im good at

[crimson forge]

That’s the right attitude to have

[ruby epoch]

im mostly positive unless somone is pourpousfully negative to me.

[opal galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/951331017669627974/951331121956806686/2022030616022900-91C78198891F7BDDCEB1685BA4827A23.jpg?width=885&height=498

Hate the notion that Switch is like impossible or something

[crimson forge]

I figured it didn’t run on switch very well but I have no idea

[ruby epoch]

Its just blurrier

I can teol but i ignore it bc it dont effect me

[opal galleon]

For what it is, it's fine

[ruby epoch]

do you have the hours you played it

[opal galleon]

Yep one moment

[crimson forge]

For what what is, the Switch or the game

[ruby epoch]

both

[buoyant bolt]

for me, the cutscenes on switch run at a few frames per second

[ruby epoch]

Bc your playing it on switch

[opal galleon]

The port

[crimson forge]

So both, yeah, that makes sense

[opal galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/951331017669627974/1059243867469271151/Screenshot_2023-01-01_14-56-30.png?width=885&height=498

I did UN initially at around 200 hours or so, It's inflated because I would play SGN ML UN a lot during the Switch content drought

[ruby epoch]

Me Who doesnt have any other console

[opal galleon]

Me either lol

[crimson forge]

Jeez that might be more hours than I have on Smash Ultimate and I play the hell out of that game

[ruby epoch]

I only got 64 3ds and switch

[crimson forge]

I have a 3ds somewhere in my house I still have to find it

[ruby epoch]

Dont make me get out my hours

[opal galleon]

I factory reset my 3DS like a complete dumbass

[crimson forge]

How’d you manage that

[crimson forge]

Who do you main?

[ruby epoch]

Well its not doom specifically but youll probrobly be like wth

[opal galleon]

Long story but basically I tried to download Yo-kai Watch 3 but I had no block space, so I nuked everything hoping it would be enough. Went back on Eshop and it also nuked my 40$ balance because I didn't take that into account

[crimson forge]

I assume Yo-Kai Watch 3 wasn’t worth it

[opal galleon]

It still wasn't enough regardless lmfao

[opal galleon]

I played it on Citra and no it's a great game. Underated series in the West, shame it's basically dead in the water over here

[ruby epoch]

i had to put my doom thing in the screenshot so i dont get yelled at for omg not doom post

Wait

I cant POST AAAAAAAA

[ruby epoch]

Can i send it to you to send it in the chat?

[opal galleon]

Sure

[ruby epoch]

It has Doom played... soo uhhh

[opal galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059245211852746822/1059245253963559053/IMG_20230101_1800245422.jpg?width=467&height=498

3k on BOTW goddamn

[crimson forge]

How many hours on Smash Ultimate

[opal galleon]

oh im hella dumb nvm

[young mango]

fortnite

[opal galleon]

in my defense it looks like the BOTW art at a glance

[opal galleon]

I actually have a similar amount on Fortnite as well 🤝

[ruby epoch]

No wonder i needed a new switch lol

[flint flame]

[ruby epoch]

with or without gyro

[opal galleon]

without

[ruby epoch]

neat imma do that too

i want golden

[opal galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/951331017669627974/1059246219421028462/Screenshot_2023-01-01_15-04-46_1.png

[ruby epoch]

Whats your switch settings

[opal galleon]

If you play better with Gyro I'd still go with it. It's a personal preference thing

[ruby epoch]

i cant stand gyro

[opal galleon]

One moment

[ruby epoch]

Botw it was ok And like Ocorina of time 3d but like on quake fortnite... i strongly dislike it

[opal galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/915817050197332088/923410923530616882/2021101216043800-91C78198891F7BDDCEB1685BA4827A23-2.jpg?width=885&height=498

My binds

[ruby epoch]

it looks basically the same as default im impressed you did it with this.. maybe you changed sensitivity?

[young mango]

i feel like it might be awkward dashing at first as usually the dash is assigned to something so quick and accessible because its a crucial movement mechanic thats basically used every second

[opal galleon]

I remapped Dash to left stick and moved grenades to buttons. My sense is in the 60's or so, maybe 70s. I can't check myself since I uninstalled the game awhile ago

[azure oriole]

What system is this?

[opal galleon]

Switch

[azure oriole]

Cool

[flint flame]

That’s such a epic name ngl

[opal galleon]

My thought process with the dash bind was that because I'm moving with left stick, it's convenient to have it in the same area. I've been told it's bad long term though since drift is likely to happen as the controller is used more

[azure oriole]

I'm trying to tell my friend about the doom 1 and 2 secret and he dont understand

[opal galleon]

True!

[flint flame]

A name to rival the great Nutmilk

[ruby epoch]

hmmmm

[young mango]

i am one of the only one who username is just their name

[opal galleon]

My actual name is in my bio. I'd make it my username everywhere but my current one is everywhere so it'd be annoying to have to change on every platform

[young mango]

one of the funniest things in doom eternal is being able to skip getting certain weapons

i remember i kept purposefully avoiding the chaingun on one run for the hell of it and there was just an empty slot in my weapon wheel

[opal galleon]

Oh that happened to me once on a UN run and was so relieved when I saw it next stage just sitting there in arc

[peak thunder]

my name is holy mary

the mother of jesus

[young mango]

yea it also appears once again in mars core if u miss it, unfortunately its not in the spot it was in quakecon its early on in the level i dont remember where

[opal galleon]

That would have been a cute touch from the devs

[young mango]

i might be wrong at that tho i think arc complex might be the only reoccurance of it

i think heavy cannon and chaingun are the only weapons you can just straight up skip

as combat shotgun you start off with, plasma rifle, you legit can't avoid, rocket launcher needs to be acquired for that one door in cultist base to open, super shotgun is also mandatory, and for good reason too, the entirety of cultist base was hyping it up, ballista is required before you advance to super gore nest, and bfg is acquired in a cutscene so its impossible to avoid

[azure forum]

You can't skip plasma riffle?

[young mango]

no

i might be wrong on this but i think before you acquire it theres actually a tiny invisible barrier preventing you from exiting the vicinity of it, forcing you to pick it up

and even if there wasnt its still pretty much impossible to avoid due to it literally blocking ur path

[ruby epoch]

Hmm

[graceful lark]

Just beat Doom eternal Nightmare

[azure forum]

I had no idea of that. I thought you could skip it for some reason

[steep heart]

Plasma rifles good early game anyways

[azure forum]

Good job son 👍

[azure forum]

Hmmm maybe for the last two arenas in exultia

[steep heart]

I use it as backup when my pb abd stickies are low

Or when i panic lol

[ruby epoch]

It is very overwhelming learning this stuff

[azure forum]

Takes a while, but you'll get there

[ruby epoch]

i know its just i panic then dont combo right lol

because im not pressing the right buttobs

[azure forum]

Adjust your controller bindings. That might help

[ruby epoch]

its ok i just started im litterally just entered the base

[azure oriole]

happy new year fellas

[ruby epoch]

Hmmm

What are the best Gun combos in doom

[azure oriole]

dream on

dream on

[azure oriole]

prob guass cannon then shotgun then rpg

if ur talking about DOOM 2016

[ruby epoch]

this is def not 2016 chat

[azure oriole]

oh mb

[ruby epoch]

Im on console

[azure oriole]

ehh then from my experience my combo i do is super shotgun, that crossbow gun, then rocket launcher

im new to DE so i suck at quick switching

[ruby epoch]

me too

[azure oriole]

i also am on console so its hard for me

oh yeah also if ur taking on larger demons then maybe do fire belch or ice

[spring mulch]

I recommend, at least for the campaign, that you switch your weapon wheel around to a set up that suits you.

[azure oriole]

wait, can you switch the guns around in ur wheel?

not in the way where u play with the,

[spring mulch]

Yes. Only in campaign. I don't play BM for that reason.

[azure oriole]

u know what i mean right?

cuz i dont want u to get confused or think im dumb

[spring mulch]

I mean, you can change it so that you can make your combat shotgun as Diagonal Down-Left as opposed to Diagonal Up-Right.

[azure oriole]

Ok

ima go in 2016 chat ty

[spring mulch]

Plus, you can shorten the weapon wheel display time in milliseconds in the settings.

[azure oriole]

oh ik that

[spring mulch]

Hope that helped 👍

[ruby epoch]

my goal is the gold doom slayer

[shut minnow]

Whenever I launch doom eternal on steam, I cant interact with anything on the screen and none of my button inputs on my keyboard do anything. Everything loads as normal on doom though. Any ideas?

[flint flame]

Precision bolt into ballista base fire

[ruby epoch]

i can do UN i beleive in myself

[foggy stratus]

yall ever have those moments where you're playing, but not really "feeling it" and then suddenly it hits you that "holy shit im playing doom eternal fuck yeah this game is awesome"

[remote kraken]

I just played ancient gods part 1

https://tenor.com/view/really-are-you-kidding-me-gif-23169920

We betrayed God

[azure oriole]

Just you wait till part 2

[remote kraken]

That and we returned the W to Samur

[lean willow]

will there be another doom?

[azure oriole]

Probably, it's a big money maker

[manic pulsar]

Cool custom clone helmet, you made it yourself?

[ruby epoch]

hey

How do i chansaw The Big lunge guy and the spider thing with gun (no idea what they are called)

[steep heart]

U need 3 fuel pips

[fossil garden]

i just bought and downloaded eternal but everytime i press "play" it doesnt load up and within a min steam no longer recognizes the game as running any ideas??

[steep heart]

Maybe ur tabbed out?

[remote kraken]

It was given

[fossil garden]

wdym

only got 4 tabs open and no background processes for doom

[steep heart]

Do u get a message or anything saying it crashed?

[fossil garden]

nah nothing

[ruby epoch]

Oh ... i didnt know there waa three chainsaw fuel because im playing with no hud

[steep heart]

Ahh ok

[ruby epoch]

So i can master it better and use reflexes more

[steep heart]

Try check ur pc requirements for the game just in case

[fossil garden]

alr

[ruby epoch]

How long does 3 chainsaws take to charge

[steep heart]

I wanna try that on uv to get a feel for it, if my pcs input lag ever gets fixed

[steep heart]

U can only charge one at a time, to get 3 u need to find in the map

[fossil garden]

where can i find pc reqs? lol

[ruby epoch]

i always have input lag im on a toaster and proud

[steep heart]

Look on bethesda website or steam on the game description and should be a page for it

[steep heart]

Ik but for me it only happens as soon as enemies spawn and then its literally unplayable

[ruby epoch]

bruuuu

i play on a 30 fps toaster you can do it

[manic pulsar]

Toaster pc?

[steep heart]

What cpu do u have?

My cpu is the only thing dragging my pc down 😭

[fossil garden]

ong im on a lenovo touchpad (granted has 12 gb of ram but still dog)

[ruby epoch]

what pc

i play on a tablet that can make toast

[manic pulsar]

Because if you are on a pc and got steam you can get a mod that lets you use a low end doom eternal pack

[remote kraken]

So why betray God again I thought we had beef with demons

[solemn plume]

Do you guys want meme ??

[steep heart]

I can run on 200 fps but my ov still cant handle enemies sspawning

Pc*

[manic pulsar]

I would spoil but I wont

[ruby epoch]

imagine doom on a tablet ong

[remote kraken]

The father

[steep heart]

U dont even need to asm

[ruby epoch]

How the heck you spam with 10 SECONDS

[manic pulsar]

I mean, Mighty Doom coming soon

[remote kraken]

He has graced me with his presence

[steep heart]

The holy father has summoned Candice

[remote kraken]

Ok now I see why we crushed the life sphere

[ruby epoch]

I have summoned a tablet that can doom eternal!!!

[manic pulsar]

How many playthroughs do you all have?

[steep heart]

Imagine keeping track

[manic pulsar]

[manic pulsar]

I dont

[ruby epoch]

uhhhh how many levels are there

[steep heart]

More than 2

[manic pulsar]

13 levels if im right

[fossil garden]

dog my laptop makes 2.7 ghz and reqs 3.3

[steep heart]

Coincidental number i think not

[patent stream]

Oh boy do I have a fun video for you

https://youtu.be/rIhDh9b5_g0

[ruby epoch]

hey how do i simplify 4/13 into a fraction lol

[patent stream]

That is the simplest for the fraction

[ruby epoch]

welp

Im a nerd then bc im 4/13 the way there i guess

[green phoenix]

Now beat doom in vr with motion tracking

[ruby epoch]

thats my playthrough status i started yesterday

i have so much to learn

[brisk otter]

why is platforming so hard

[patent stream]

What if I said it’s actually fairly basic platforming and not hard 👀

[brisk otter]

well congratulations

[patent stream]

Which platforming section are you stuck on

[brisk otter]

the floating circles above lava

[patent stream]

Yeah I don’t know what to say from my memory all sections with floating circles above lava are just jumping between them no?

[ruby epoch]

I want my shiny cheese armor

[plucky swallow]

bro okay

[prime reef]

Jump, jump, dash for most of them. You’re probably panicking and killing your second jump or dash too soon. Focus on the rhythm of it.

[brisk otter]

yeah

idk what it’s called i kinda just started

[livid kernel]

Hey, it’s me Goku!

[indigo juniper]

Fellas I just shot a bomb into cacodemon and he laughs or it was glitch

Like he ate a bomb and laughed it off

[strange gale]

that almost never happens but it's a real interaction

[azure forum]

At some point everybody loses track of it

[azure oriole]

is nightmare mode hard

[green phoenix]

Goku doom guy is sleeping pls come tomorrow

[livid kernel]

ok!

[azure oriole]

whos king novik

[plucky swallow]

a king

[green phoenix]

He is a king of alien knights

[azure oriole]

do you see him in the game

[hushed echo]

hello

want to know the Vega fact of the day

[azure oriole]

sure

[hushed echo]

did you know all children are born with a disease? It's called 'Life' and it's always fatal

tune it tomorrow for more useless facts with Vega

[sacred dirge]

Thanks vega

[hushed echo]

tomorrow there will be an all new fact

[vagrant estuary]

does anybody know good settings for Doom eternal on the PS4?

[flint flame]

You can play and find out

[ruby epoch]

im only on the fourth level my combat is much better... i gotta remember other guns exist

[icy ice]

At first yes, but you'll get used to it with practice. Definitely adrenaline-pumping on the master levels

[flint flame]

Emotes get locked to their cosmetic sets

[rancid latch]

i bought the PS5 version then was so distraught there wasn’t gyro i bought a steam deck because it’s the only thing that can play doom eternal at both a good framerate and with gyro controls that isn’t a standard PC

yes that is very specific but i just don’t have the space for one

[flint snow]

God Exultia is a fucking bad time on Nightmare honestly, especially the Slayer Gate

[icy ice]

Use your plasma rifle and save a triple fuel for one of the dread knights. It's not that bad with practice

[deft geyser]

would you rather play doom eternal or get 5 million dollars

[unborn sorrel]

get 5 million dollars and buy ultrakill for the second time

[modest tangle]

ultrakys

who gets mad at videogames

play the cybergrind with mitosis it is hilarious

[rigid galleon]

Why are marauders such dicks

[unborn sorrel]

yeah apparently

[modest tangle]

yes

[unborn sorrel]

the only mods I've tried is the fumo skulls mod and the fps meter

[modest tangle]

frag grenades troll him

[unborn sorrel]

A very effective troll tool

[modest tangle]

frag grenades are goated

frags still extend the stagger though

[unborn sorrel]

It was?

[modest tangle]

i dont use them to make him turn around i just use them to make him faltered for longer

[unborn sorrel]

Oh, that. I thought you couldn't stagger him with those anymore

[modest tangle]

extra pb ballista shot and heatblast

or you can just hold the autoshotgun and throw two grenades

[unborn sorrel]

they nerfed the remote detonate rl on the marauder right?

[modest tangle]

probably

sticky bombs on the floor still work

[rigid galleon]

Frfr

They look badass

But they're so irritating

[flint flame]

Nope. It’s just that remote det sucks

[flint flame]

Also they added a small resistance to the marauder from sticky bombs

Still a decent method tho

[flint snow]

Bit much

[modest tangle]

remote det for faulters is savage

[flint snow]

Is there a mod for eternal that allows the meathook to grapple to the climbing walls?

[strange gale]

it was never good in that context

[flint snow]

The hammer is only usable in Tag, right?

[flint flame]

Or you can hit the demon straight on to get a falter that way

[crimson forge]

I think that was actually a contentious point during Eternal’s development, being the choice between letting the meat hook stick to anything or just demons, they decided on just demons cause they didn’t want to invalidate all the traversal work they had done

[vagrant estuary]

"archviles

[flint flame]

“

You forgot the end quote 🤓

[vagrant estuary]

wtf

using the damn nerd emoji isn't even funny anymore it just gets annoying

[flint flame]

I’m using it on myself

[vagrant estuary]

you were correcting me

[gentle edge]

I thought my computer crashed when I was playing the taras nabad master level😭

[flint flame]

Yeah… I’m not explaining this joke. r/whoosh. I sleep

[strange gale]

Never mess with the Reddit Nation again.

[modest tangle]

remote det concussive blast is a really big aoe doe

[random vault]

sounds like the cope someone uses if they get nerd emoji’d

[flint snow]

But they introduced grapple points in tag, something that could have been in the base game, so I'm not sure it would have invalidated it

[rare hound]

Will I be able to play battle mode just by purchasing the dlc?

[azure oriole]

man has found out what online subscriptions are

its an old relic that wont go away

at least until games go f2p more often and live service is more profitable

[azure oriole]

which they already are

just takes a large investment

xbox started the trend

sorta. xbox gold live was a big deal in post 2000’s

finally finished doom eternal like 2 days ago

was fun. think my only critique is those damn mau- kidding losers wasnt even that hard

took like 2-3 of his flash green smacks and he already died

but no for like a real critique i have is i swear the melee was way stronger in 2016 than Eternal

[modest tangle]

why punch when u can shoot

[azure oriole]

Its not a big deal i just kinda noticed

i swear in 2016 u just punch and they get into stagger for the cannonfodder

[modest tangle]

yes

[azure oriole]

would be funny cause then id see people play doom eternal with fists only

[rigid galleon]

Them too, Ong

[azure oriole]

Okay but its like that for PS and Switch too

That's just a home console thing in general, not xbox exclusively 😮‍💨

[timid ledge]

Wassup

[sharp pine]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-laugh-neutral-face-neutral-gif-25383761

[idle cargo]

If you had to cast an actor as the Doom Slayer for a live action Doom movie, who would you choose?

[sharp pine]

I have no idea

what about you?

[tacit stump]

Hmmm...someone beefy but pretty much expressionless, who doesn't need to talk but will only give convincing fight scenes.

I'd say Dwayne Johnson.

[wary badger]

dwayne for intern

because bald. no hair.

[idle cargo]

Yeah I was thinking the Rock too

[midnight sparrow]

Arnold Schwarzenegger. Put him in a suit of armor and you’ve got a good Doom Slayer

[idle cargo]

Arnie would have been good for a 90’s Doom Movie for sure

He might be too old now tho. Have you seen how big the Rock got for Black Adam?

[flint snow]

Black Adam is weird for me tbh

[midnight sparrow]

Rock would be a good choice yeah. But if WE DID have like Terminator 1 Arnold I think he could totally be Doomguy

[flint snow]

Choosing to watch BP2 or Black Adam wasn't much of a choice considering the state of dc atm

Also seeing the Barbarian skin in Zero's 7 hour marathon of eternal really makes me want prime Arnie

And side note, prime Arnie is Conan imho, always will be

[exotic hamlet]

does anyone know which level (base campaign) has the most pinkies? I only need the mastery for the full auto mod of the combat shotgun and then I 100% completed the base game.

[midnight sparrow]

I think it’s either Doom Hunter Base or Nekravol

Maybe Urdak as well in the later stages

[exotic hamlet]

also I think Dwayne Johnson wouldn't be a great choice, not just because I think he is in way too many action movies nowadays, but also he likes to play the same type of guy no matter if it fits the film or not: his characters are always have a heart of gold and humour which already didn't fit Black Adam and it won't fit Doom either

[exotic hamlet]

Thanks

[flint snow]

Does anyone know how to get the secret in the doom fortress above the Crucible power thing?

[clever osprey]

🤷🏻

[exotic hamlet]

there are windows under the ceiling in this room. In one of them is a little red thing you can shoot which activates a jump booster to the collectible

[slow sigil]

Jack black

[sudden pecan]

Mars core master level

[surreal stone]

Is ultranightmare difficulty identical to nightmare other than the fact that it resets on death?

[sudden pecan]

yes

Also no extra lives

[tacit stump]

<@&162901871168585728>

[azure oriole]

Jesus tap-dancing Christfuckles is automod asleep

<@&843956170800758826> WAKE THE FUCK UP SAMURAI

[tacit stump]

"Jesus tap-dancing Christfuckles" is beautiful and I hope you don't mind me stealing it for personal use.

[azure oriole]

It's free real estate

[ruby epoch]

hello

Whats the best Rune combination in doom eternal i know the air is your best freind

[flint flame]

Air control+ equipment fiend + your choice for third rune

[west coyote]

Whats up

[ruby epoch]

equipment feind does what

How many glory kills till my bloodpunch restores bc i acsidently use it alot

i have no hud exept a curser

[azure forum]

Aren't the runes also explained in game?

[misty orbit]

hey, winter sale on steam and i wanna buy doom eternal. does the deluxe edition contain the ancient gods 1 & 2?

[flint flame]

Yes

[misty orbit]

nice

[misty orbit]

thank you

[ruby epoch]

TWO GLORY KILLS for real?

BRUUU I BEEN UNDERUTILIZING SO MUCH

[tacit stump]

Yeah, Blood Punch is something you can easily spam.

[kindred ocean]

whats a good combo to do with your weapons?

(with that i mean first you shoot this then you shoot this etc)

[tacit stump]

Not sure if this answers your question, but I like to take out the Marauder in one go with SSG + Sentinel Hammer + Lock-On Rocket Launcher + Ballista + SSG if he's still not dead.

[ruby epoch]

now i know i can take out ghe robo Demons more easy now i just didnt know what to do

[kindred ocean]

whats a ssg and sentinel hammer

[ruby epoch]

I wasted so many blood punches

[tacit stump]

Super Shotgun, and the Sentinel Hammer is something that's given to you in The Ancient Gods DLC as a replacement for the Crucible.

[west coyote]

hmm

Cool

[wary badger]

X22

[spring jolt]

Any advice for a casual player trying to beat ultra nightmare? I've completed the campaign and both DLCs on NM difficulty, trying my first UN runs since yesterday. So far I reached doom hunter base once (and died in a stupid way). Usually I'm dying to a kakodemon or arachnotron in 'hell on earth' or 'exultia' - they are super annoying early on.

Always chosing sticky bombs over semi-auto and PB over micro missiles, maybe i'ts easier the other way? What are you thoughts seasoned slayers?

[wary badger]

my tip is dont die

[flint flame]

If you’re making it to doom hunter base, then you’ve practically beat UN

[wary badger]

also get used to dying

[spring jolt]

thx, wow that changes everything 😄 \

[wary badger]

def

[spring jolt]

well I think it's getting easier later, when I have access to more powerful weapons and better suit - I just panic too much in random moments, which leads to stupid deaths 😛

[wild latch]

how hard is gore nest on nightmare.

[flint flame]

[sacred dirge]

🎻

[wary badger]

hard if you arent used to nightmare

[wary badger]

let me play on the worlds smallest violin * spongebob violin noises*

[ruby epoch]

how do i get mastery

[rancid latch]

day 2 of asking bethesda/ID to add gyro controls to the PS version of doom eternal

[azure oriole]

That shit pissed me off.

Console Doom is way better with motion aiming. And it's only on Switch. Dumb

[rancid latch]

i was so distraught when i realized there was no motion that i bought a steam deck

i just want to play doom at more than 30 fps with gyro

[ruby epoch]

i dont use my gyro lol

[rancid latch]

i am Begging yall. pls

[sacred dirge]

Can't use that motion shit but I see why people love it

[rancid latch]

unless the game is designed with stick aim in mind gyro’s completely ruined shooters for me

i can’t play without gyro nowadays

[azure oriole]

It's awesome with TPS too.

Like RE

[rancid latch]

yesss
splatoon got me hooked on that gyro

[azure oriole]

Yeah it's great. Gyro's great on Deck

[sacred dirge]

He's going to die soon. Already told Bob

He's not on discord yet

[ruby epoch]

i like how the ark woman says doom is saving humanity defending it because he hates seeing ppl dying or somthing... (idk what she said) but the thing is he misses daisy

funny

[slow sigil]

Except that he literally does fight to save humanity and not only just because he's angry because they killed daisy

[frosty edge]

dont download this game theres blood my mom dosent let me play it

[rancid latch]

related but is there any technical reason there’s no cross-save despite the whole bethesda account thing

i understand no crossplay because of the inherent gap between controller/pc but cross progression would be nice

[frosty edge]

the ufos are back plesse help

[azure oriole]

It's both.

Daisy is a small part of the guy's backstory. Not the whole thing.

[rancid latch]

I mean i’d be pretty pissed too if some rich cultist fucks brought the end of the world upon innocent people

[azure oriole]

Especially when it hasn't been the first time.

[rancid latch]

It Just Keeps Happening™️

[azure oriole]

Doomguy witnessed Daisy's death, sure. But he also witnessed:
-The deaths of his entire platoon on Mars
-99% of the population of the original Earth
-The fall of his new home, Argent D'Nur

The man seriously knows nothing but loss and trauma at this point. People make a big deal about the whole "too angry to die" thing, but Doomguy is a character defined by a fuckton of traumatic events. Dude's got mega PTSD.

[azure oriole]

From the final notes of my own guide on Doom's canon:

What is the point of this story, its moral, its lesson? Why tell it? I put forth my opinion on Doom’s story: It is a story about destiny, the weaponization of rage in the face of injustice, and humanity’s need to cut its own path. It is a story about defiance in the face of uncountable odds - of looking in the face of those who would seek to subjugate and harvest your life, and to say no. Hatred in the face of oppression and authoritarianism is not only valid; it is sacred. [...] Consider: all of the greatest changes in modern society were made by the weaponization of hatred and anger as a result of injustice. Man’s ability to take his dissent and hatred and rage, and mold it into a tool worthy of making positive change, whether that weapon was a sword, a gun, or simply words.

[glossy warren]

so much so that he became ptsd himself

[tropic mesa]

i love seraphim samur boss fight and killing pain elemental and always having thoughts

[patent stream]

Don’t forget one of the biggest forms of PTSD

The fact he saw demons, and went to hell itself

The absolute horrors of that

And while classic doom shows It as instantaneous, doom 3 shows the creepy visuals from using teleporters

[azure oriole]

Yeah this is something I think people tend to forget.

Hell is fucked. Like, visually and atmospherically everything about it is an assault on the senses and a screaming affirmation that this is shit no human should see.

[patent stream]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-intro-doom-eternal-demon-gif-16987418

We go ha ha funny demon

But this shit is the fuel of nightmares

Only things seen from our worst thoughts.

[azure oriole]

Yeah

[patent stream]

Imagine being in space and now these 7-8 foot tall walking hell fire spawns are ripping humans in pieces

[azure oriole]

I think especially like. The Spiderdemons

Spiderdemons are fucked. They might look silly on account of classic Doom visuals, but conceptually that shit is gross.

Oh man I need to find how I described the Spiderdemon in my fanfic.

[patent stream]

Imps, demonic creatures climbing walls throwing fireballs that Melt metal, massive claws

Hell knights punching and denting metal walls

Pinkies screeching and rushing to slam into a wall

[sand remnant]

demons aren’t scary when you’re in doomguys perspective though

[patent stream]

Floating weird ball demon with no limbs

[azure oriole]

It was a monstrosity. A brain the size of a car, cybernetically attached to a spider-mech. The brain was disgusting - it seeped blood from its pores and wrinkles. An unfathomably grotesque face stared at the Marine as the front of the brain was malformed. He could see beady red eyes staring at him. Below them, a shuddering mouth filled with rotten teeth. It had small, diminutive arms stretching from the brain; it flexed its claws as it groaned. Translucent tubes ran from into the monster’s brain into the spider-mech. The spider-mech itself was twisted and wrong - it didn’t seem nearly as advanced as UAC tech, yet it stood. Rust infected the metal all throughout, and William could see red sinew pouring from the spider-mech’s joints. It had four large, creaking legs, wires running through them, sparks flying from their joints. It wasn’t devoid of defense mechanisms either. In the middle of the spider-mech, a huge chaingun was attached to the chassis.

[patent stream]

They are scary they are terrifying they broke him

He’s just a human

[sand remnant]

i know

[azure oriole]

Araneor, Spiderdemon of Dis, stood tall before William J. Blazkowicz. It dwarfed even the size of the monster he had previously faced at the Tower of Babel. “My God,” he whispered. The Spiderdemon shook, and stared into his eyes.
Fuck yeah!!!

[patent stream]

Not canon

Throw it away

Burn it with fireee

[crimson forge]

I think another crazy part is Pain Elementals, cause they forge lost souls in their stomachs, but lost souls are canonically spawned from souls whose bodies had been entirely broken and lost

[azure oriole]

It will be when I become the new main writer for Doom

[patent stream]

Monologue turns doom into a picture adventure book partnered with tell tale games

First 3 games are just multi hour long exposition dumps to fix all the cracks in the lore

[crimson forge]

I mean the Doom Bible existed to give it more lore

[azure oriole]

Implying this wouldn't be raw as Fuck

Slap a spinoff label on that shit, bam.

[patent stream]

I’m a little sad id doesn’t throw its ip around so we can get spin offs

[crimson forge]

I'd totally be fine with a telltale game about the Doom Marine's first forays with demonkind

[patent stream]

Hey x company here is doom ip. Make a top down shooter.
Hey x company here is doom ip, make a tactical sim like halo wars
Hey x company here is doom ip, make a card game or whatever

Hey x company, make a arena shooter mp with doom

[crimson forge]

I can see a top down shooter, I can see a tac sim, I can't see a card game

[patent stream]

There is always a niche that wants a card game

[azure oriole]

My personal dream Doom game, still, is a Doom 3 style side-game following Earth after the events of TTAG2

[crimson forge]

I mean yeah I just don't see what it would be (also I miss card wars from adventure time)

[patent stream]

I want a doom that goes back to being more doom

So a doom 3 esque style game would be perfect

A mix of doom 3/2016

Heavy emphasis on doom 3s aesthetic and weapon balancing
With more or less 2016 gameplay

[crimson forge]

so, absolutely atrocious shotgun spread

[patent stream]

The shotgun in doom 3 is exactly what it needs to be

You wouldn’t use a hammer to cut wood

[azure oriole]

I'm open to more Eternal-style stuff but like. I really think they should've just worked on mapmaking tools for that.

[crimson forge]

yeah but would doom 3's weapon balancing fit 2016 gameplay? somehow I don't think so

[rancid latch]

no snapmap

[azure oriole]

3 has the best weapon balancing in the series.

[patent stream]

Doom 3 weapon balancing means all the weapons were viable. There really were no Weapons that drastically outperformed the others ( looks at 2016 and eternal)

[crimson forge]

I think the difficulty of putting a snapmap like mode in Eternal is the amount of unorthodox and handmade environments

[patent stream]

Issue is eternal leans way too far into quake. Anything more just removes the purpose of quake

[patent stream]

Numerous new environments was one part, but I doubt they can’t make a super proper snapmap

Issue is if they do and it’s TOO good. Why bother getting the next game

👀

[crimson forge]

More demons, more guns, even crazier story

[patent stream]

Why spend another $70 on a game when the game you already enjoy has infinite content

Then you want the next game to have snapmap

And the next

And the next

[crimson forge]

I don't mind

[patent stream]

My personal idea for how a snapmap would work. And I 100000% know they won’t do it

Is keep snapmap as a standalone game

[crimson forge]

Super Mario Maker but Doom

[patent stream]

Think of Mario maker 2

[azure oriole]

TBF, Super Mario Maker 2 exists and that won't sap sales from the next Mario platformer.

[patent stream]

The difference is you get super snapmap for doom eternal 2

Then the effort required isn’t showing it’s worth it. So eternal 3 doesn’t get snapmap

People mad

Eternal 4 no snapmap again too much work

[ruby epoch]

hmmm

[patent stream]

Eternal 5 snapmap

Eternal 6 no snapmap again

They would need to make doom. How prodeus did it

[crimson forge]

jeez how far ahead are we thinking

[patent stream]

Prodeus devs made the entire level creation tool first, then they made their game with that tool and released the tool inside the game

[azure oriole]

It kinda shows, because Prodeus' story mode is, uh.

[patent stream]

But it’s a lot of dev work. A lot of dev work for a snapmap.

[azure oriole]

Prodeus is a solid and damn good shooter, but the story mode fails to leave an impression.

[patent stream]

Prodeus doesn’t really have a story, eternal has a convoluted one.

Prodeus wasn’t aiming to make some triple A fantastic story, it was all about just shooting demons

[azure oriole]

Now, see, I'm biased here, and this is why you wouldn't want me handling these franchises. Because if I were, I'd just merge Quake into Doom, make the next Doom game a reboot of Quake, and just have that be more like Eternal.

And then I'd have more traditional Doom games on the side, that play like 3.

[patent stream]

Monologue killing off quake

Heresy

[azure oriole]

I unironically would, yeah. Never been a huge Quake fan.

[patent stream]

And this is why we are happy you are not in charge

👀

[crimson forge]

I haven't played quake so i hold no bias for or against it

[patent stream]

Quake is what eternal wanted to be

[azure oriole]

Quake 1's okay. Quake 2 is boring. Haven't played the others.

[patent stream]

Except significantly more horror and uh gothic?

Is that the right term

[crimson forge]

maybe eternal was what eternal wanted to be

[patent stream]

Eternal was a mess from start to finish

[azure oriole]

Bob's kinda right though. Eternal plays a lot like Quake.

[crimson forge]

I enjoyed it

[patent stream]

So if it wanted to be a mess then I guess it did it right

[azure oriole]

Still the best Doom game.

[patent stream]

Least doom game *

[azure oriole]

Still the best!

[patent stream]

It threw away a LOT of what made 2016 work. In favor of a whacky premise and more cartoony arcady style

It also threw away a lot of what makes doom doom

[azure oriole]

It is the best and least Doom game.

[crimson forge]

Wait what makes Eternal the least like Doom, like what makes Doom, Doom?

[azure oriole]

TLDR: Eternal's focus on verticality, weapon-swapping, arena gameplay, weapon combos, gothic environments, etc... make it clear that it plays, fundamentally, more like Quake than Doom.

[primal relic]

My only issues with Eternal gameplay-wise is that it doesn’t completely follow through with the “use the right tool for the job” concept, this being evident with some weapon mods being very obviously significantly better than other weapon mods. Other than that DOOM Eternal is probably my favorite shooter game ever

[slow sigil]

eternal looked more at 2016 and how to adapt that into better gameplay, instead of still mainly looking at the OG

[crimson forge]

I just see it as taking doom in a new direction

[patent stream]

Eternal also goes into the realm of the gods, angels, multidimension multiverse
Turning the guy from man Vs hell to demigod vs the universe
Arcady etc

[patent stream]

The issue is that direction already exists

It’s called quake

[azure oriole]

The original Doom games were never "run into this part of map, gates close, kill 3 waves of enemies, move on". They had labyrinthine levels with enemies strewn throughout. The newer games focus more on arenas.

[slow sigil]

that sounds more like you have an issue with the weaponbalance and not the "right tool for the right job"

[crimson forge]

that's a good point, but the combat is also so much deeper

[primal relic]

Okay yeah I didn’t word it well

[patent stream]

2016 while veering a little away still kept dooms fundamental style. More maze like maps, key hunting. Demons spewed around not only arenas etc.

Granted you were no longer simply a human anymore,

[azure oriole]

Well, that depends. I would argue the complexity isn't much higher than the OGs; that's not a criticism of new Doom, but moreso a statement on how complex and amazing OG Doom combat was in ways many players don't consider nowadays.

[primal relic]

Random question. If anybody were to add a demon from DOOM 3 into Eternal, what would it be and how would it work?

[azure oriole]

OG Doom's combat complexity comes not from the enemies themselves, but from level design, where enemies are placed, and what weapons are available to the player.

[slow sigil]

tbf i really couldnt give a shit about "simply a human" aslong as it offers more interesting gameplay which it clearly did

[crimson forge]

Excellent point, actually

[azure oriole]

The Bruiser. BRUISER!!!! It would be a super-heavy demon that peppers you with constant fire, with the weakpoint being its TV that will shatter and blind itself if you spray an automatic weapon on it for long enough. Glory kills include shattering the TV with your fist.

[primal relic]

That is a very good choice. I think I remember you talking about your concept for the Bruiser a while ago

[azure oriole]

Fuck yes.

[patent stream]

Not to mention I think eternal drastically underutilized weakpoints.

And while playing evil west I realized doom bosses don’t even have weakpoint mechanics. Hell the super heavies don’t even have weakpoints ( aside from armored baron)

[azure oriole]

A runner-up: Cherubs, repurposed into Maykr fodder enemies. They're bug-like Maykrs that serve both as annoying flying enemies, but also meathook nodes - you can meathook them to kill them immediately and fly off of them.

[patent stream]

This woulda drastically improved the overall combat between these things

( hell while playing evil west I realized it does eternal better than eternal)

[crimson forge]

Yeah I definitely think Eternal coulda done weak points more liberally

[azure oriole]

Yeah

[primal relic]

Ooh! I also had an idea for the Cherub as a Maykr enemy. Nice pick

[azure oriole]

For anyone who wants my opinion: I acknowledge Eternal is very far from what makes Doom Doom. This is a valid criticism, and I don't want Eternal to be the permanent direction of the series going forward. However, I consider it the best game in the series, mainly because I believe it has: 1) the most and best content all-around, 2) the most fun and rewarding gameplay, 3) the most interesting and cool lore, and 4) the best soundtrack and visuals of the franchise.

[patent stream]

In evil west small fodder can have weakpoint moments, which instakill them for bonuses.
Medium “demons” have weakpoints or attacks that can be interrupted
Heavy’s can also be interrupted and weakpoints shot to stop a buff or an attack
Super heavies can have a weakpoint to prevent a major attack / gain health /interrupt
Bosses have weakpoints that if timed well or all hit can make them open to major damage or stagger or flinch to stop attack or etc etc

[patent stream]

2016 has more and better content

[azure oriole]

Eternal > Doom 1993 > Plutonia = Doom 2016 > Doom 3 > Doom 64 >>> Doom 2 > TNT

[azure oriole]

2016 doesn't have more content than Eternal. Huh? Eternal has like 1.5x the levels.

[crimson forge]

2016 has more content only because the devs let people make their own

[patent stream]

2016 has snapmap

[azure oriole]

Oh well whatever. Don't care.