doom-eternal

[desert barn]

gambling is what keeps esports going, if u notice their sponsors 99% are betting websites.

[magic marsh]

Those damn cursed prowlers

They are just prowlers but green and have a curse

[swift spade]

yup. it's big money and it dominates the field.

[azure oriole]

Dollar dollar bills y’all

[wintry eagle]

I always have problems with it but when I see Diego play doom he just out maneuvers them like no one’s business

They can’t even touch diego

[unique spire]

That's just practice and skill paying off

[wintry eagle]

Fr he’s must’ve been practicing for a long time then

[burnt moss]

MC ML is hard, even on HMP. Haven’t died, but it def feels hard

[azure oriole]

That was a fun level

[burnt moss]

Yeah it’s more fun when you’re not stuck. The tentacle room near the end, and then the shield horde. Those rooms are just fun.

About to do the final arena though

Now to cross the final chasm. To BFG or not to BFG, that is the question. I’m worried I’ll run out of ammo if I don’t

I should have used BFG. So many extra lives lost.

[rare flume]

what do you guys prefer as your rune combo?

[burnt moss]

Air control, equipment fiend, dazed and confused

[azure oriole]

Blood fueled, dazed and confused, equipment fiend

No time for air control 💯 🙏 🔥

[burnt moss]

Air control is considered essential by some, unnecessary by others. Everyone seems to feel strongly either direction.

[icy ice]

Dazed and confused gets swapped for saving throw near death lol

[burnt moss]

Same!

[ripe socket]

guys tell me how to fix the bug with the achievement gun fan?!

Pls🙏

[weary thicket]

What avachiement?

Fix the bug? I never heard of it

What its name?

[primal acorn]

Hurry

What’s final demons name?

[azure oriole]

Icon of sin?

[flint flame]

It’s been bugged since launch, they never fixed it

[paper kraken]

fighting dark lord on nightmare any tips?

[slow sigil]

Dont get bored to death

[paper kraken]

too late

[desert barn]

focus on not getting hit, he's like a marauder that heals

and he can't stagger

remove ur fast glory kill rune if you have it equipped & get blood punch drops hp rune or glory kill range rune

[paper kraken]

ty, made it past phase 1 at phase 2

[wary badger]

being hit by demons are the most clunkiest mechanic

[desert barn]

i partially agree

carcasses melee behavior is actually mental

it feels like ure being dragged back and forth in some bugged collision more, than actually being hit by enemy.

is it just me or gladiator green eye flash time is inconsistent after the skipping rope phase

feels like he follows one time for the rest of the fight

and another timing for this phase

[radiant breach]

legit just died once in my extra life run to a damn carcass

I was full hp, I thought I could kill it, but it kept spinning around like a damn fidget spinner

and I couldn't even dash out of it

another thing that's broken is the damage from the riot shield dude

AND THE MOST INFURIATING THING....why the f are arc complex elevators still bugged?>???

legit elevators keep leaving without me

[crisp scarab]

hello everyone, help to make 78 kills in the battle mode and restore 13,000 health to the demons

[azure oriole]

I finished the game, unfortunately I have to say that I did not like it, the atmosphere is not there and there are annoying bugs and it breaks the game

a too fast action that does not allow you to enjoy the graphics and the atmosphere

the parcour killing gameplay, as I thought it was a destiny designed to have fun tearing apart demons but not good for that either

[slow sigil]

seems like you wanted another game then eternal was really made for

[burnt moss]

How does it fail at tearing apart demons?

[flint flame]

Grammar has left the chat

[patent stream]

I’ll never understand the parkour conplaints. It’s maybe 1% of the game. And you’ll be doing plenty of it mid combat

Aside from that it just sounds like they wanted doom 2016 2 which eternal is not

[slow sigil]

yeah they keep on complaining about the atmosphere and graphics but the game isnt made to be gritty and dark

the graphics are there solely to make demons stand out better so you can see them better during gameplay

and like, aside from parkour what else do you want in between arenas? absolutely empty straight hallways?

only gripe i have with it is that it should mirror actual movement during arenas better

[desert barn]

there was only 1 place in eternal where i actually disliked parkour, in sgn the open section with mario rings of fire. and it was mostly because it was only fun to figure out that section during first playthru, later on it became pointless.

other than that its mostly fitting and never feels out of place

My main gripe with parkour sections is that its so fuckin pointless to have them. if jumping off a cliff doesn't kill you, why challenge the player in a 40 second parkour section ? removing the consequences (getting sent to checkpoint) made the parkour sections so pointless waste of time

Best example is argent tower in 2016. the parkour felt like it had actual importance because falling down meant death and you start over. Compare this to eternal where falling off a cliff just places you on it again? Makes no sense.

Eternal improved on the mechanics but regressed on the UX of parkour imo

[slow sigil]

so there is something to do inbetween arenas

[desert barn]

imo everything should have a punishment and a reward, otherwise it is pointless from the 2nd playthru onwards

[sacred dirge]

That would be a Shame.

[burnt moss]

I understand the complaint. As soon as something becomes a sticking point, it stands between the player and killing more demons. So that 1% of the game becomes the biggest deal of the game because I’m repeating this parkour sequence instead of killing demons.

[hot forum]

who agrees that 2016 doom is way easier then doom eternal? chat?

[burnt moss]

That part isn’t even parkour traversal; it’s an arena obstacle.

[slow sigil]

Problem is is that 80% of people will get tired out near instantly if you basically instantly got teleported to another arena

[burnt moss]

Nah it’s harder. Fewer crutches.

[hot forum]

Ok thanks for the answer im starting to put the ones who say that 2016 is harder or not 👍

[burnt moss]

MK11 handles that with long cutscenes. Another idea is minigames like 2016 did. Rune challenges were a nice change of pace.

[hollow wing]

what enemies should i use the crucible on

[hot forum]

you decide comrade

[burnt moss]

Archie and tyrant. Maybe Baron

[hollow wing]

i just dont wanna waste it 😩

[hot forum]

i understand probably the heavy/stronger demons??

tyrant probably

if you can i never tested out the crucubly on it

[cyan frigate]

i would like it if in the future, they give options for you to skip the platforming on repeat playthrough. as someone on console, playing through super boring parts that were meant for pacing on the first time playthrough or the first few times melt my brain. i come back to play, not platform ya know. i know its important the first time, but i hope they have foresight in the next doom to know little quality of life changes for replayability will benefit the fanbase that replays it years after or even between no updates

[burnt moss]

Yeah you can

[hot forum]

oh alr thanks

i didnt know i tought you couldnt

[sacred dirge]

2016s un and nightmare is far harder

[burnt moss]

Crucible works on everything except Marauder I think.

[hollow wing]

yes

[cyan frigate]

100%. even my boy hugo stated 2016 nm is insanely unbalanced lmao

[hot forum]

i think theres more let me go see rq

[hollow wing]

i tried it once

then gave up like 10 mins in

[cyan frigate]

i know what to do to un it, but honestly it feels so boring to go back and play it unfortunately ): after 76 days played on eternal lmao

[hot forum]

thats my name lol

[cyan frigate]

hugo gaming

[hot forum]

and btw The Crucible Blade should be primarily used to kill the strongest demons. Perfect candidates are enemies like Arch-vile monsters (that can summon other hellish foes), whose presence can seriously complicate the mission. Other candidates, that should be killed with a plasma sword, are such demons as Baron of Hell, Cyber-Mancubus, or the Tyrant. (acording to google and doom eternal information)

[hot forum]

lol

[desert barn]

it is parkour traversal. idk why you would call it arena, when there are no enemies in that part

[hot forum]

what are you talking about? trasversal rounds?

[desert barn]

no

[hot forum]

oh alr

what are you both talking of then?

[desert barn]

traversal rounds actually make more sense, since there is an incentive to do it fast & a punishment when u don't

[hot forum]

agreed

[burnt moss]

You mean the flaming, spinning beams in the arena with the totem with lava?

[desert barn]

no, the section after the arena ends.

all enemies are dead and you have to make your way across an empty map with spinning french fries into the building

the ones in mid air between platforms

[burnt moss]

Remind me, are there any demons on that top level with the punching block? I usually play the Master Level so I don’t remember

[hot forum]

alr bois imma head out cyall

[hot forum]

i dont remember either i usualy play master levels too

[desert barn]

no, in the base game after u kill all the enemies in the lower lava section, there are 0 enemies till u reach the building.

[gilded wharf]

2016 UN is much harder. Gravity is instant death

[desert barn]

so my point was, if you're gonna make us jump thru hoops, at least it should punish you when you fail, and have some reward there that'd allow player to optionally make 2-3 extra jumps to collect something useful, like a rocket ammo

[azure oriole]

I hate jumping around

[burnt moss]

Keep in mind like 1 percent of players finish the game.

[burnt moss]

I think introducing meathook motivated them to lower the stakes

[burnt moss]

But no ability to retry. I hate that.

[desert barn]

yeah I get that it was a conscious decision, and for the first playthru its mostly not a noticeable issue.

[burnt moss]

The other thing is that traversal is fun and the game tries to be fun

[gilded wharf]

no downtime exhausts players, its a pretty well known phenomenon in game design. the bonus rounds in horde are analogous to the platforming/key/secret hunting sections in campaign levels, although I would agree that they should be optional instead of mandatory

[sullen meteor]

as someone who likes platformers I'd actually like to see more platforming in the next game. 😄 I think boredom hits when it's not challenging enough, I'd say that's the problem the platforming sections have.

[signal dirge]

if it's rocket jumping and all that I'd love that too

[sullen meteor]

yeah that might be how to spice things up, like I don't think anyone said bad things about the meathook platforming because using the meathook is part of the gameplay anyway. So doing platforming sections where you have to keep switching weapons and use them could be just what those parts need

[strange gale]

to anybody with even a little experience with platformers, those sections in the base game are incredibly uninteresting

[sullen meteor]

yep, basically you get a few fun rooms in the DLC and that's kind of it when it comes to platforming 😄

Blood Swamps just does it well because the timed sections actually offer a bit of challenge and TAG2 is cool because of the meathook

[crimson yarrow]

I remember when id was considered to be the cool uncle of game dev companies

What a 180 this is

[strange gale]

one guy = entire studio, btw

[crimson yarrow]

Pretty important guy

As much as people like to give crap to SOME companies for being anti consumer it seems like NO company is a safe haven for the workers

What a shitshow

[azure forum]

It doesn't matter, you can't judge an entire team just for one person's actions.

[crimson yarrow]

I am more speaking of the working conditions there

Of course I'm not judging EVERYONE

As that would include Mick, making me a victim blamer

The fact that this is the new standard for developers is so freaking painful

I feel like if it wasn't for the indie secter, game creation would eventually die off - since who the hell would want to become a part of this?

Seems from all the recent controversies that this kind of cheating and abuse could very well happen in every studio, no matter how likable

[empty drum]

[azure oriole]

Pretty sure he's going to miss. His face is embedded in his arm, how could he possibly hope to land this shot?

[burnt moss]

These are the lies of the nonbelievers

[upper sky]

lmao

[burnt moss]

I wish your name was ThighSLAYER

[empty drum]

What

[upper sky]

💀

[empty drum]

Ssg has vertical spread of 7.1 and a horizontal spread of 11 degrees and shoots 20 pellets impossible to miss

[flint flame]

[sacred dirge]

Free Mick Marty Martin

[kind obsidian]

When the new doom?

[primal estuary]

2025

i think it releases on summer

[kind obsidian]

[primal estuary]

hard to believe but yeah

[kind obsidian]

I sad

:c

[primal estuary]

i misinformed you

i made that the fuck up because i'm evil and diabolic

[kind obsidian]

[primal estuary]

:dancingrev:

[kind obsidian]

Now you'll be doomed

[heady sage]

Horde mode is insane

Learned to kill a marauder with only the single shotty tho

[burnt moss]

How do you falter him?

[heady sage]

Regular shotty does it

When he flashes green. It’s just harder to aim. When he falters I stick a shotgun bomb on him

[azure forum]

TN ML classic mode already does that I think

[icy ice]

You're probably better off with full-auto while he's stunned btw

[azure forum]

You're better off killing him with frag grenades than using FA 😂

[heady sage]

I’ll try but he’s only stunned for a second. Seems like you’d only get off two shots with full auto. Probably same damage as sticky bomb

I just got 350,000 xp for doing first mission on nightmare. It was my last monthly challenge. Unlocked Doom 64 set 🙏

[icy ice]

I remember getting more like 5-6 the last time I tried but maybe I'm remembering wrong

[heady sage]

You could be right I haven’t tried it. I always forget about full auto I always leave the sticky bomb mod on

[sacred dirge]

How dare you

[icy ice]

I only use full auto in the DLCs for either the stone imps or possessed demons

[azure forum]

Nah. Chainsaw, hammer, and Dblade

[burnt moss]

Why possessed?

[icy ice]

If it's a smaller possessed demon like an Arachnotron or something and I feel like mixing it up a little lol

[desert barn]

why not both

[azure forum]

Nah, never a need to use FA

[desert barn]

doing a longer full auto burst on marauder after using the grenade to stagger is more satisfying than the first squeeze of toothpaste out of the tube

[deft geyser]

Ok

[tribal silo]

once ive 100%ed the game, is there anything left to do? cus im sad that i cant play anything now without it being a cakewalk

[rigid gorge]

Kaiser Campaign

[tribal silo]

never heard of that

https://tenor.com/view/tell-me-more-cat-kitty-file-nail-gif-5369373

[rigid gorge]

Well I'm gonna steam it, so you wanna see what it is you're more than welcome to

but basically, it's eternal's campaign

on rainbow crack

[tribal silo]

nah ive gotta do something else in a few mins, ill just google it later

thanks for the heads up though

[rigid gorge]

no prob

[azure oriole]

Tell us more Noodle

[rigid gorge]

I would but the slowmode is annoying.

[signal dirge]

I can.

[desert barn]

climb horde mode leaderboard

[signal dirge]

Kaiser Campaign is an overhaul of the entire campaign, adding higher difficulty to the encounters and adding more hazards into areas of levels normally left barren. The mod is nearing its final stage of completion.

It even includes custom demons, and adds in a re-configured hammer.

[azure oriole]

User created?

[signal dirge]

yes

[desert barn]

mods are even better to use now, since there are no game version updates so the mods don't break every month

[signal dirge]

they're just reskins of other demons, but they have wildly different purposes in combat loop

[signal dirge]

surprise patch: adds new master level
no changes to Immora

[desert barn]

lol

[signal dirge]

Scorched Earth is another mod in the works tho

[azure oriole]

I’m still working through tag haha

[signal dirge]

part 1?

[azure oriole]

Yup. Just started it the other day, but then I decided to do Doom 1 first

[signal dirge]

Good luck on the Holt slayer gate. that one's a doozy

[wary badger]

i hate the spirit marauder

[azure oriole]

Does doing the tag slayer gates unlock anything?

[signal dirge]

Just the Support Runes, but defiently do the secret encounters for some extra skins

[wary badger]

yes support runes i recommend break point rune

[azure oriole]

Desperate punch 🔥 💯

👊

[wary badger]

too weak for me since I make large amounts of armor pools

[burnt moss]

I actually gave up on that. Besides TN ML it’s the only thing I haven’t beaten on NM

Oh I guess I didn’t do Horde NM either

[icy ice]

If you want both the blood punch and weak point runes you have to do at least one slayer gate in tag1.

Last night I was able to beat world spear ML on nightmare with only 3 deaths. Cranked it up to UN and I had like 10 lol

[desert barn]

i do have a tendency to choke horribly only on UN

i have done 0 death runs on NM before, but UN always a choke

[calm oyster]

i think horseshoe crabs are really cool

[desert barn]

are there any of those in doom?

[sullen meteor]

the game is great at giving you options to do when you choke though so that can be overcomed. Like pulling out the chaingun shield and throwing some grenades usually works.

[wary badger]

any ideas for me to play in doom eternal? I'm getting bored

[novel token]

Install game, start campaign in UN, point and click enemies 👍

[wary badger]

no

[novel token]

Ok

[desert barn]

full auto - remote det - micromissile run

without air control rune

[empty drum]

Who plays doom in class?

[flint flame]

One time in hs I opened the doom 1 wad on a school laptop

[empty drum]

Dang

How pls tell

[flint flame]

Flash drive

The game is literally 8 megabytes

[desert barn]

i played and practised eternal for like 6 hours, I think im really good now, almost 5 times as good as a couple days ago. 🙂

[burnt moss]

Guys I wonder if a GIANT joystick could aim like a mouse. Like the flight simulator joystick for example.

[slow sigil]

i mean, kinda yeah. problem then is that.... a mouse is just better then that😂

[burnt moss]

But like, why? What’s the difference between tilting my giant joystick all the way to the right and moving my mouse to the edge of the pad? With sens all the way up, I should have the same control over where my reticle is as if I was putting my mouse on it. Theoretically.

[slow panther]

Guys, any strategy for the triple marauder in Taras Nabad master level on UN.

[slow sigil]

cause a giant joystick also takes up more space

[slow panther]

My run always end in that arena

[burnt moss]

The one that starts with Tyrants? I’d say stay air born on the monkey bars and drop grenades, stickies and rockets all the time to whittle away at the Marauders’ health.

But I’ve only beat that on UV.

[burnt moss]

What difference does that make?

[patent stream]

The directional movement wouldn’t be the same

[slow panther]

Yep, after the 1st tyrant die the 1st marauder spawn. Then, after the 1st marauder die the 2nd and 3rd marauder spawn

[patent stream]

A mouse moves horizontally flat on the plane
But a giant joystick also needs to take into account the arc of the stick as it moves around

[burnt moss]

But it can still “place” the reticle rather than “pushing” the reticle, if that makes sense. I think that’s what normal joystick is missing.

[patent stream]

Not quite. It would still function as a joystick. Except larger

You would likely need external software or such to make it so when you stop moving the reticle stops moving

This would then potentially do the placing. Otherwise it just functions. As a joystick

On the steamdeck the touchpads work in this regard. Where it emulates a mouse. So when you drag and stop, the reticle stops.

[burnt moss]

Oh I think that makes sense. So say I want the reticle to move 50% toward the right side of the screen. (At the three-quarters point) I can’t just move my joystick 50% to the right edge and leave it there.

[patent stream]

Correct since it would operate as joystick, so moving it past the center point would continue the movement on screen at that speed

And wouldn’t stop until you snap back to the center of the joystick

[burnt moss]

BUT if I’m right, I could move the joystick 50% toward the right and then reset to 0 when I get on target. Which would be much easier than on a regular joystick where 100% movement only BEGINS movement in that direction.

[patent stream]

No the fundamental movement of a joystick and that would still operate the same

100% movement would be for instance reaching the far right as the joystick hits the plastic ( although usually it occurs slightly before touching)

It also depends on the game and what sensitivity options it provides

Some games have the acceleration as a slider. So you can make it occur instantly as soon as you move the stick slightly, or not until you reach the end

The only way I could potentially see a benefit to the larger stick would be setting acceleration to max. Dead zone to zero. And only making incredibly small movements. So that as soon as you slightly rest, the reticle would then be on target

[burnt moss]

Sorry I didn’t mean 100% sens right there. I meant moving the joystick to the edge. With a reasonable sens, moving the joystick to the edge doesn’t bring reticle all the way to the edge.

[burnt moss]

Oh right. Moving the joystick to the 50% position wouldn’t move the reticle a fixed distance, it would just move at 50% speed.

So I guess gyro is the best I’m gonna get when it comes to placing the reticle. I also like the realism of it. Maybe I’ll try the Nexus then so I don’t have to get the SteamDeck for gyro.

[patent stream]

For now yeah if you are used to it gyro + stick is the closest you’ll get without then using special custom hardware and software

[desert barn]

I don't think anything can be as fast or as synced up to your brain as a mouse

[burnt moss]

Not even gyro? I mean mouse is a simulation of aiming, but gyro is actually aiming.

[brittle quest]

Moving your wrist is significantly different than moving the entirety of your arm, with the latter also being slow. Imagine flicking with it, or performing any fast motion.

[unique spire]

Gyro actually is faster than a mouse once you're used to it because there's no friction to overcome to put the reticle where you want it

[burnt moss]

Isn’t that how video games used to be though? Gamers were good at large fast movements on a fist-sized joystick.

[desert barn]

i don't think gyro compares, altho ive never used it myself.

[burnt moss]

I fear customization so I probably wouldn’t go that route.

[unique spire]

Have you ever adjusted your mouse sensitivity? it's pretty much the same for gyro only with things like steam input you can get way more than just that

[brittle quest]

I don't see how they could outmatch a mouse. I've heard quite the contrary infact, people wanted to play with a mouse because of how significantly easier it was.

[burnt moss]

I wasn’t referencing gyro. He was talking about custom software etc.

[unique spire]

Ah my bad

[burnt moss]

Easier than giant joystick? People don’t usually do that these days.

[azure oriole]

Might give Blood Swamps a go today. Been hooked on Doom 93 the last few days.

[desert barn]

that double totem arena is so hype

[azure oriole]

Can’t wait

[brittle quest]

Huh? I didn't get what you mean.

[desert barn]

also, in most videos I have watched of ppl playing gyro, in games where you smash a ton of buttons + aim (doom) the user accidently causes their aim to become shaky because their button presses inevitably move the controlller. and the way they hold it against the screen, there is no resting position like mouse on a pad, so it can't be comfortable too long on your hands.

I think it gives more ease of use than mouse + keyboard in racing games, but not fps

[unique spire]

There's actually ways to control that significantly especially on pc

Steam for example you can lower the sensitivity to reduce the shakiness you can also have a toggle so that it only turns on when you're ready to aim with it

Steams controler software in general is incredibly powerful and gives you alot of control

This is comming from someone who's used gyro for more than 2 years now I pretty much don't load an fps without it now on pc

[desert barn]

I agree that it is good, better than the default aiming but I don't think its going to match the razor sharp movement possible by a mouse with decent pad space

carrying the weight of the controller in your hands is so terrible for long periods and if you rest it on a pillow that must feel akin to having a mouse thats pressed against low desk space

[unique spire]

Most controllers actually aren't that heavy that they'd exhaust the user if they held it for hours honestly

[azure oriole]

Never been an issue for me. Controller is all I’ve ever known.

[burnt moss]

You made it sound like people were switching from giant joysticks to mice. What did you actually mean?

[brittle quest]

I honestly don't know much about the entire giant joystic gig, I was talking more about the general joystick based control surfaces.

[unique spire]

I've only experienced that with one device and that was the Nvidia shield portable handheld and that's because it had a big battery inside the bottom half along with a full sized controler

[brittle quest]

This is the first time I've even heard of the notion of giant joysticks.

[desert barn]

how long till they put my neurons in the usb so i don't have to use any hands at all

[sacred dirge]

Personally I prefer comfort of the sticks over some giant attachment that would kinda improve your play

[brittle quest]

Though a giant joystick would only be a 3rd dimensional mouse now that I think about it, assuming it can cover all the screen.

It's personal preference, same as anything and everything.

[burnt moss]

Gyro doesn’t care whether you’re actually pointed at the screen, so I can relax my arms by resting the controller in my lap. I used Gyro in DE on Switch for like 500 hrs. Most of movement and aiming is still joystick with minor precision adjustments by gyro.

[burnt moss]

As Bob pointed out to me, the joystick function would still make it inferior to a mouse.

[unique spire]

Yeah too many people associate gyro with the wii which actually needs you to be pointed at the sensor bar because it uses an ir sensor

[desert barn]

most videos that demonstrate gyro show it that way
one vid had the guy resting it on a pillow, but that makes it look worse

[unique spire]

The people that demonstrate gyro in those videos don't likely use it alot

[flint flame]

SAO but doom

[desert barn]

yea this guy aiming it like he using arrow keys rofl

[burnt moss]

That’s because they think the intent is VR.

[unique spire]

Yeah they're using it wrong
You can literally have the thing in your lap and only shift your wrists slightly up and down left or right to aim

[burnt moss]

Golly I want gyro now

[desert barn]

i am not having any e-kids

[unique spire]

All You really have to do is hold the controler like you normally would

[unique spire]

Take your pick

Switch pro controller

Ps4 or ps5 controler

Those are the main 3

[burnt moss]

I play on Xbox 😦

So my option is XIM Nexus

[unique spire]

Damn

[desert barn]

proprietary everything is the biggest problem of consoles
if they had just developed an interface that can plug in 3rd party controllers & makers could write their drivers like a mouse maker it would be better for everyone. xbox, ps and anyone would be able to swap controllers

[unique spire]

I do remember that one large controler they made for accessibility years back you could definitely plug in other devices into that

And it was entirely repgrogrammable

[burnt moss]

You mean Xim or someone else?

[verbal narwhal]

Anyone else feel like playing on PC with controller is kind of choppy? Never had this issue with Doom 2016

[unique spire]

I never actually got it's name so I'm not sure

I just know that it's an official product

[burnt moss]

You mean Xbox made it?

[unique spire]

Yeah they made it

[burnt moss]

That doesn’t really help me then haha. I need a controller with gyro that connects to Xbox.

[unique spire]

You can probably find a 3rd party one but the issue comes that just having gyro on the controler isn't enough on a console

You have to make the game actually use it

[burnt moss]

Why not?

[unique spire]

Because on console the game has to be programmed by the devs to use a hardware feature

Where as on pc you can program the gyro yourself so that it emulates mouse movements or stick moments

For games that don't naturally have it

[burnt moss]

XIM emulates joystick with its gyro. That’s why it’s able to work with Xbox

[azure oriole]

Is it just me or is the Hayden/ Seraphim reveal sort of like “uhh ok then”

[flint flame]

Yeah UACA kinda just went “yeah he’s the seraphim” despite it being the biggest theory from the base game

[burnt moss]

The Seraphim’s voice sounded like Samuel, in the Divinity Machine cutscene of Taras Nabad.

[flint flame]

“Am I the father Dr Hayden” was such a cool moment

Came outta nowhere

[azure oriole]

The DNA test determined you ARE the father!!!

[burnt moss]

-said Mauri before playing Immora

[safe perch]

does anyone have any advice on how to earn more xp for the event?

i've completed all the challenges

[flint flame]

Grind out sentinel prime or dark lord

[safe perch]

as in get all the collectables and stuff like that?

[midnight sparrow]

No just keep replaying it

Also cause there’s like 1 collectible in those levels

[safe perch]

thanks for the help

[real sequoia]

Does anyone know how I can do the parkour

[midnight sparrow]

jump

[severe crow]

Just beat eternal

I bought the master collection while it was on a huge sale so I've got both ancient gods stories to play through

The only downside is that I'm playing it on switch

[burnt moss]

TAG isn’t too bad on switch.

[severe crow]

Yeah but the performance of the game itself is poor

It closes out frequently

[burnt moss]

I recommend Xbox. Or if you have more money get a Steamdeck, I hear it’s great.

[severe crow]

Nintendo consoles are usually the only ones with games I'm interested in though

I like my baby games

[unique spire]

If you've got a decent pc you can buy a copy of the gamee and emulate them

[burnt moss]

Keep the switch too

[unique spire]

I'll probably never get a switch myself

[severe crow]

Emulation is tough for me, I usually only do older games, plus I have a Mac so gaming isn't really the best use for it💀

[sacred dirge]

[unique spire]

Damn that sucks

[azure oriole]

Blood Swamps was a pain in the ass

[azure forum]

It is tough, but it is one of the best levels in the entire game - level design and mainly sound track which imo is possibly the best in the game

[flint flame]

Blood swamps do be hitting

[azure oriole]

That boss fight was….something

[fading scaffold]

I need help getting a suit point on the doom hunter base

It's basically above you after you get off the little train

And theirs a monkey bar

[azure forum]

Go at the end towards the other side where you will find a Mod bot. From there, look backwards and you will see the climbing wall to get on top of the pilar that has energy. You can jump from there

[fading scaffold]

Omg thank you I have recently beaten the game so I'm going back to levels to get secrets and encounters

[warm heron]

So have you guys been hearing about the controversy surrounding Mick Gordon?

[full mulch]

i've heard very little about it, but i did hear word going around about it. haven't been entirely informed though

[warm heron]

Well Yongyea just posted a fricking hour long video showcasing all the evidence Mick himself had used to back up claims that he was done dirty

[fading scaffold]

What controversy

Mick is fucking awsome

[full mulch]

holy sh- i didnt know that

[primal estuary]

have you guys been under a rock this last two weeks lol

[full mulch]

lmaoo ig i have

[primal estuary]

I think that topic comes up at least 4 or 5 a day in this server

[fading scaffold]

So another question for secrets

So theirs this area with a closed door and some coffin jumps to the other side and theirs this other suit upgrade under their how do I get that (still in doom hunter base

Hopefully y'all know where I'm at

[burnt moss]

Under where exactly?

A screenshot of the map would help

[flint flame]

Underwear

[viral cave]

is anyone willing to try and play battle mode with me

im kinda new so

[jagged cedar]

i wonder if we'll ever get a dreadknight master collection

[sacred dirge]

Nope

[marble monolith]

Slayer level got reset on Xbox don’t know what caused it

Was over level 118

[burnt moss]

You have lost literally nothing.

[marble monolith]

🥲

[nocturne lynx]

Sounds about right: the original statement’s an hour to read.

[icy ice]

Nothing like having a prowler end your UN run halfway through world spear ML

[ripe shore]

How to ? When is already hard enough?

[azure forum]

The levels donnt really mean anything. I got 4 stars on stadia that are going to get lost forever

[azure oriole]

Those new Makyr dudes in the Holt are annoying the crap out of me already

[icy ice]

Lots and lots of practice

[icy ice]

Lol you at the end of the level yet?

[ripe shore]

Ok 🙏

Maybe like have a nightmare save and practice encounters over and over again?

[azure oriole]

Just getting started. This tag has been exhausting so far.

[outer laurel]

Playin" now DooM Eternal, Taras Nabad "plaza", so hard stage.

[icy ice]

Yup that's a great way to practice

That's what I did for TAG1 UN.

Specifically, the fucking holt lmao

[ripe shore]

Maybe I was tired but when I did the slayer gate I lowered the difficulty to ultra lol

I played this game on console when I was younger and I was pretty bad lol but I got it on pc now and it’s a lot more fun

[icy ice]

You don't have to do all of the slayer gates on UN, just the ones that are necessary

[ripe shore]

Wdym?

Oh yeah don’t they just get the unmaykr?

[icy ice]

Not only that, but depending on your mod preferences, you'll probably have the weapon points you'll need to max out the mods you want.

As an example, I would never use full auto after the 3rd mission so I don't bother spending weapon points on it at all during my UN run

[ripe shore]

Oh good idea

It’s good on hell knights and arachs imo but that’s about it

[sacred dirge]

FA forever

[azure oriole]

Tag insists on adding more and more arbitrary ways to make demons stronger

[burnt moss]

Younger

[ripe shore]

Wait so with ultra nightmare how do I even like exit out of the game without the save being deleted?

[burnt moss]

Wait til the end of the level when it says save and exit

[ripe shore]

Oh ok thx 🙏

[icy ice]

If you quit before that then your save file gets deleted

And if you try to circumvent the death then you resume with no weapons nor equipment lmao

[ripe shore]

Let’s go I did hell on earth 🙏

[azure oriole]

Partaay

[ripe shore]

I tried that on console back when the game came out with saving throw and I was confused why I became a ghost lol 😂

Anyways I’m really anxious about exutltia lol cause I have a hard time in it

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/go-for-it-you-can-do-it-encourage-do-it-gif-14006408

[ruby solar]

Hello, fellow Slayers. Been a while since i've talked here

[ruby solar]

Exultia's a breeze, my guy

[ripe shore]

The start of hell is the hard part cause there’s a revenant and a hell knight and a caco cola

[ruby solar]

caco cola

[ripe shore]

Yes

[ruby solar]

I forgor you don't have meathook until cultist base

Microwave Beam is the best Mod for the Plasma Rifle. So get that one

[ripe shore]

Is it?

[ruby solar]

yeah. as long as it's hitting a demon, they can't move

plus once they explode, it falters other demons, i think. that might be the mastery

still the best mod for the Plasma Rifle

Hell of a lot better than the Stun Bomb

at least in my opinion. I'm pretty biased since I played Eternal before 2016

still have ten times more fun in Eternal than in 2016

Once you get to Super Gore Nest, GET THE ENERGY SHIELD. DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I DID

[icy ice]

Just curious, does anyone else not like to use the energy shield?

[sacred dirge]

Yeah

[burnt moss]

Saving throw is allowed

[burnt moss]

I don’t use plasma rifle anymore.

[desert barn]

i use plasma as a substitute if i happen to run out of stickies. its decent vs small demons

but using it eats up gauss ammo so its annoying

[ripe shore]

Ok time for exultia

This is only my first run but I’ll be sad if I die lol

[worn terrace]

cant run Doom or Doom Eternal. getting errors

Faulting application name: idTechLauncher.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x6243e4c1

[gilded wharf]

exultia and cultist base before you get the SSG are pretty nuts on UN, especially if you do the slayer gates

[icy ice]

The second slayer gate is more doable than the first imo

[gilded wharf]

i've been practicing for UN (with gates) for a while now and I'm like 0/10 on cultist base

[icy ice]

You can have at a bare minimum fully upgraded lock-ons at that point

Save your triple fuel for one of the mancubi in the basement

[gilded wharf]

for sure. if you don't get the chainsaw dread knight -> quick kill on the first revenant to end the gate early, it gets really hairy

the basement I've been getting pretty good at, actually. Hitting the first manc with the cueball and then using pb to falter the second one for a LOB

i would skip all gates if your goal is just to clear UN. they're unnecessary risk

[ripe shore]

Dude I changed my setting cause I have drift in my mouse wheel but my shoot button got unbound lol so I had to rebound it and imma run almost ended in like two seconds lol

[gilded wharf]

oof

[azure oriole]

What is it that makes slayer gates so hard? I decided to save them for my second run.

[gilded wharf]

You will get really good at Hell on Earth by the time you clear UN

It varies from gate to gate, but basically you encounter new heavy demons earlier than you normally do in the campaign, and more of them per encounter

The first one is notorious for being a run ender because it spawns about 30 gargoyles at once and you have limited tools to deal with them, and pretty low health/armor to boot

[ripe shore]

Bro last night I was playing on it on nightmare and I had to tune down the difficulty lol, the dread knights are op as hell

[gilded wharf]

Gate 1 introduces dread knights before you get the rocket launcher SSG or ballista. Normally they are introduced in super gore nest when you have all of those + much more health

[ripe shore]

Pun intended

[gilded wharf]

Those dread knights are savage. I think I spent like 3 hours trying to clear slayer gate 1 on my first run since I picked nightmare from the start

Always try and save 3 chainsaw fuel before entering the gate to delete the first dread knight right away

[azure oriole]

Wow that’s cool. Didn’t know all that.

What about the secret encounters?

[ripe shore]

Omg I did the mid encounter in exultia 😮‍💨

[gilded wharf]

secret encounters are just timed encounters. some of them are challenging like the one in taras nabad but mostly they're just little gimmick fights like spawning 2 cacos over a giant pitfall in exultia

[ripe shore]

Bro I died from a barrel 😭

The lost soul hit a barrel 😢

Now I know there’s barrels there at least 😂

[azure oriole]

Death by Barrel

[gilded wharf]

somehow I know exactly which barrel you're talking about

[burnt moss]

Even on HMP the double Archie room is trash (TN ML)

[ripe shore]

Secret encounter 😡

https://tenor.com/view/barrels-gif-11149533

[gilded wharf]

yup

i would highly recommend having a second savefile to practice the levels on nightmare first, then move onto UN once you've gotten a successful no death run

[ripe shore]

Yeah I have that rn

Mostly like my pc play through tho

I really wanna do un for tag 1 ngl

[gilded wharf]

meatballs usually end my run with that quad fireball attack that does about a billion damage

[ripe shore]

The farthest I made it on console was to taras nabad and the secret encounter killed me then I quit lol

[ripe shore]

Oh yeah lol it’s so dumb

[gilded wharf]

that's a tough one

mfw speedrunners start the secret encounter before even dealing with the archie

[ripe shore]

The hardest level for me was definitely cultist base

[gilded wharf]

on UN I agree. those early mancs and whiplashes are so deadly, plus you don't have meathook to deal with shield zombies

[ripe shore]

Kk well that's it for me today I don't want to burn myself out lol thx for all the tips and tricks.

[burnt moss]

FUCKING double marauders

[azure oriole]

Oh man

[desert barn]

unpopular opinion but doom Eternal enemy ai close range attacks have non intuitive design (except hellknights & barons coz they're perfect)

[wary badger]

pretty challenging but fun

[burnt moss]

They killed me. On HMP. Pinned me against a wall.

[desert barn]

kinky

[wary badger]

use shield

[wary badger]

🤨

[burnt moss]

Doesn’t help kill them faster

[wary badger]

is there any way to avoid the dog softlock in world spear ? I want to retry it but the soft lock ruins it

even a checkpoint reload wont help (it might tho)

[burnt moss]

TN ML makes me question my life choices.

Even after finishing it

[wary badger]

what was the hardest part of it i want to try it in the future

[burnt moss]

There are several “sticking points” but two arenas in particular are universally acknowledged to be total bullshit. 1. The Coin Room which has a buff totem that you can’t access before killing a bunch of cybers and other heavies. And 2. The Double Archie room where two Archie’s are similarly blocked off until you kill two Dreadknights and two Tyrants. Both rooms are extremely claustrophobic.

[wary badger]

just use the bfg crucible method for the 2 archie room ?

[burnt moss]

Even with that method it’s somewhat difficult. I don’t remember if I’m supposed to crucible the tyrants or the Archie’s, but whichever you pick, the other has to be killed normally.

[icy ice]

Yup, pummeling the shit outta you is pretty good design

[burnt moss]

Besides the 3 tyrants on the final hall, todays run was no supers

[wary badger]

kill tyrant with crucible and kill 2 archies with 2 bfg shots

[burnt moss]

They make you lose control. Sometimes you just kind of float around.

[icy ice]

Wait until world spear 😭

[burnt moss]

I did that at one point. Only up through UV though.

[burnt moss]

Why did you ask about it if you already know?

[wary badger]

watched a vid about months ago but I was intimated by the master level

so i need a guide

@jaunty vapor sorry for the tag but can you give me taras nabad master level tips ?

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/prudent-george-w-bush-bush-not-gonna-do-it-gif-8644178

[wary badger]

break your limits

[jaunty vapor]

Anywhere in particular or just "easiest way to beat it"?

[wary badger]

anywhere in particular

[jaunty vapor]

I meant is there anywhere in particular that's giving you trouble

Coin room fight, Double Marauders around a ring, etc.

[ripe shore]

Yes I also agree that doom hunted by mick Gordon and prowler by Iron Maiden are the best tracks

What exactly are you asking for tho?

Ooh there was a popular one that came out a couple years ago but I didn’t like the order

Like for example doom hinted only plays in two arena so it should play after doom hunter base and before doom hunter

[wary badger]

yes

[jaunty vapor]

For something where there's Marauders, if you're not comfortable with fighting them one on one, I'd recommend just doing sticky bomb at the feet. Also for the "ring" that has 2 Marauders chasing you + spawning prowlers, use Dazed/Confused rune and DON'T kill the Prowlers, just keep them in Glory Kill state. They'll be out of the fight longer that way than if you outright killed them.

[wary badger]

thx

[jaunty vapor]

For Coin Room, optimal use of Dblade is invaluable. 3 charge dblade will kill Hell Knights that spawn, and 1 charge Dblade will kill Carcasses (and goes through Carcass shields).

From there you just need to know how to quickly kill Doom Hunters and Cyber Mancs. Usually through something like frag/ice bomb -> blood punch -> ssg on Cyber Mancs, and for Doom Hunters usually frag/ice + blood punch to the sled, maybe 1 ssg shot, and then Lock On burst for the body.

[austere condor]

How i get friends in b-mod?

[ripe shore]

Add them

[wary badger]

world spear = meth spear

[icy ice]

Found a good use for Ripatorium: leave an archvile alive, and then you fight infinite waves of buffed demons lmao

[wary badger]

https://youtu.be/BUO2WVNAZxA the thumbnail is not lying go to 9:12

[desert barn]

the hardest part of the icon of sin fight is figuring out whether the body part you're shooting at is already destroyed without looking at the health bar

Going to the ripatorium is such a time consuming effort

doomguy takes 2 elevators to reach it, when he can simply jump

[wanton dome]

Facts

[wanton dome]

Speaking of the ripatorium, after I beat the game, I was unable to re enter the ripatorium. Is this a bug orrr…?

[desert barn]

i just tried it, I can't enter it either. It allowed me to enter only once aftsr the icon of sin fight, and after that the elevator door don't open.

Not sure if its intended

play thru the campaign and do 10 pushups after a level followed by 10 squats after the next level
you become the doomslayer after 2-3 runs

[orchid mauve]

Who has beaten nightmare mode of doom eternal?

[slow sigil]

Many people here

[empty drum]

I’m going to. God please save my soul

Also I underestimated the bottomless missals on the HC

[wary badger]

hey guys do you have any tips for not missing a shot by using the pb

[wary badger]

me, pretty fun

[desert barn]

before you engage the scope, it should be as close to the intended target as possible

The more you have to adjust after zooming, bigger is the chance you will miss

[wary badger]

will quick scoping help or not help ?

[desert barn]

if your aim is very close to the target, then quickscoping is not going to be a deterrent. but if you're really bad at the aim, quickscoping might make you miss a few times and that's fine. practise more.

and just practise hard for hours, pb rocket combo will also train ur pb aim at the same time.

[wary badger]

thx

[desert barn]

do you play on a pc or console?

[wary badger]

also, i main PB rocket tho

[slow sigil]

Imo not scoping at all is the best

[wary badger]

pc but i feel like a console player not using binds only the wheel and q key

[slow sigil]

That way it aims like any other gun, and you don't have the .1 second of blindness, nor the confusing sight of being zoomed in and that slightly fhanging your sensitivity

[wary badger]

Mmmm

[desert barn]

oh yea if you're any serious at the game def. use binds and abandon wheel

[wary badger]

i cant adapt to new binds

any ways to adapt to it easily

[desert barn]

no one is born adapted, a little more practise will go a long way

[wary badger]

Mmmmm

[desert barn]

play SGN master level over and over many times. it has the perfect balance of difficulty & verticality for practising weapons.
constantly use meathook to launch up high in the air for doing more and more pb rockets

[slow sigil]

Try over and over

[wary badger]

okay thx

[desert barn]

also this goes for any game not just doom, every time you fail or die, take a minute to notice why you died (not used nades/ flame, not used meathook/ bad position/ messed up combo). consciously pointing your mistake and not repeating will improve you rapidly

[wary badger]

I rarely die because I used the full potential of the flame belch and armor

and pickup every ammo drop or placed in the arena

[wary badger]

I shall remember all of the things you said as a lesson

[desert barn]

sure, glhf

[heady sage]

Game crashed at the very end of hardest slayer gate in the game

👍 great job switch version. Maybe take some of that stolen soundtrack money and FIX THESE CRASHES

[patent stream]

It’s disappointing to hear the last 2-3 updates made the switch version unstable

When I played it I had no issues and only crashed maybe twice. Once in tag and once at the end of horde mode. And now it sounds unsteady and stuff

[heady sage]

Oh I’ve had it crashed right around ten times

This one might have pissed me off the most. I was at the very end of the worst slayer gate in the game

I’m about to try it again I had to calm down. Going to TRY to see if the game and system I pulled for price for on both can handle running

[desert barn]

does steamdeck run the same version as switch?

[desert barn]

yet another unpopular opinion: making dps combos like pb rocket an almost- necessity for DLC's was a poor design choice

[patent stream]

No

It’s a pc

It uses the pc version

[desert barn]

ok then im gona post my conspiracy

"id is on Valve's payroll to make people buy a steamdeck"

[patent stream]

Yeah I doubt that

Especially when id doesn’t work on the switch port

Panic Button does

And their entire thing has been how great their switchports are

[flint flame]

I see zero correlation

[desert barn]

Gabin approached iD offices with a fat wallet and a box of steamdeck.

"Hello Marty, how are you? I came to reveal this amazing handheld that will blow your mind"

"Hello GabeN. I'm just done writing an open letter to reddit. So, whats this?"

"This is a steamdeck which can run doom eternal. It would be a funni coincidence if switch version started crashing and caused handheld enjoyers to buy our deck instead, don't you think?"

"Yes Gabe, but it would only be possible if there was a good incentive wink"

Later Gabe walked out of iD offices without his wallet and steamdeck

[patent stream]

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-hi-bob-bob-bobs-two-bobs-gif-22427233

[jolly kernel]

I like how DE feels more cartoony in comparison to 2016. the different blood and ammo colors, sillier looking enemy designs, a life system, and enemies making a popping sound when their heads explode

it looks even more appealing than 2016 due to being more colorful

[waxen field]

Be a Doom Eternal moment

[strange gale]

the fuck else were they gonna design it around

[waxen field]

Tbh it doesn’t really feel any more necessary than the base game outside of the increased difficulty (though that’s just mainly tag 1)

The only enemy that really pushes you to quick switch is the Marauder

[strange gale]

the game really doesn't live up to the "thinking man's action game" marketing line

slayer's kit is so fundamentally busted that you just need to figure out 1 good option for each enemy and then spam those for the rest of eternity

[waxen field]

Tbf that’s most games

[strange gale]

(lock-on already covers like 40% of the cast )

yea so there's not much actual decisionmaking involved here

it's just a race to see who can press buttons the fastest

[desert barn]

idk, after I got good at pb rocket all the fights feel like just a different variation of the same repeated sequence- a chore
i feel like somehow they should have increased difficulty without throwing more enemies into similar arenas

[strange gale]

basically nothing is committal, and even on NM you can make a fuckton of mistakes before you actually start receiving significant punishment

[waxen field]

Honestly I feel guilty when using lock-on due to how busted it is

It’s like using the bfg in 2016 in terms of how much less interesting it starts to make the game

[desert barn]

what im saying is that the fight in cultist base/ DHB with a limited kit are more fun than the full kit fights im uac atlantica which are just execute buttons in repeated demon waves.

[waxen field]

Idk I find Atlantica more fun, though I think I just prefer the lvl design, ost, and enemy placements in that lvl

[desert barn]

yea everything is topnotch im not arguing about anything else

other than fight sequences

[waxen field]

That’s my favorite part of that lvl

Especially since in TAG 1 you can’t spam bfg like in base game

[desert barn]

I think a some enemy type (not reskins) would have really benifited TAGs

[waxen field]

TAG 1 didn’t have reskins that was TAG 2

[patent stream]

Tag got a bit screwed due to Covid time limitations

Tag 1 dev process was likely already started a bit before games full launch. With tag 2 not. Hence why tag 2 had the reskinned imp and baron and prowler

It’s also why Davoths fight has so many health bars but is mostly the same fight. Was supposed to have a second stage to it

[waxen field]

The Baron, Riot Soldier, and Stone Imp at least had new moves but the Immora soldiers should’ve just been removed

[desert barn]

i mean both tags should have had new enmies

[flint flame]

Mfw covid lockdown

[midnight sparrow]

did you catch COVID or something?

[desert barn]

no wonder dark lord got clapped, he thought immora soldiers could guard him

[flint flame]

Oops, sorry for the confusion

[burnt moss]

It’s the hardest non-DLC master level so do the other three first if you haven’t already

[midnight sparrow]

wish I could say the same. It was the worst time for me

[brittle quest]

You need to step difficulty a good way up before quickswapping becomes necessary, and the devs never put that much difficulty into their game (it'd be foolish to do so anyway). Only vanilla-game encounter I can see that comes close is the Archie room in TN ML.

[waxen field]

Archie room is the hardest encounter without superweapons

[brittle quest]

Indeed. You have to kill the buffed demons as fast as they spawn and also terminate the tyrants (provided we restrict superweapons) which requires quickswapping of at least a minimal degree.

[burnt moss]

If you kill all the buffed demons besides the tyrants, do more spawn?

[brittle quest]

Infinite respawns.

Great arena for practicing no CGS survivability btw.

[burnt moss]

Yeah but do you have to clear all of them or does each respawn separately

[burnt moss]

Fast travel should be more accessible

[heady sage]

Astro and Praetor are underrated skins

[midnight sparrow]

Praetors cool

Wouldn’t say underrated though

[heady sage]

They kind of blend in as color swaps (they’re not) and I don’t seen them used a ton is what I meant I guess

[midnight sparrow]

Well people usually flaunt there modded skins or UN rewards so it makes sense

[heady sage]

Yeah a lot of people do but a lot of the un unlocks don’t look so great imo

Do the horde mode rewards reset monthly?

[midnight sparrow]

I like the gold skin you get for completing the campaign on UN but the one for TAG1 doesn't look very good

[sacred dirge]

Platinum would have been better

Gold for nightmare

[jaunty vapor]

🧀

[brittle quest]

It's essentially archviles spamming spawns till they reach the ai limit, so it's infinite and doesn't depend upon whether you kill them or not. You need to kill the Archies as soon as possible, and that can happen only after you kill the two tyrants.

[brittle quest]

Say what you will, it's the 5th best skin in the game (after the praetors of course). Even if the devs nerfed its blade.

[burnt moss]

So do you kill the other demons or not?

[brittle quest]

It depends on your strat. Most would agree that it's better to simply focus on bursting down the tyrants but to still focus on the mancs/arachs that spawn, as they can provide significant danger.

[heady sage]

Does anyone know if the sets you can get for playing horde mode change monthly?

Or is it just doom 2 and biker and that’s it forever

[flint flame]

thats it forever

[heady sage]

Ah that sucks 😞

[azure oriole]

Maybe one day they’ll say screw it and unlock all the skins for everyone

[heady sage]

The fourth phase for the boss of ancient god ones is horrible and not fun at all

[sand ibex]

Have Marty/Id responded to the allegations?

[heady sage]

With the eyeballs and a blood maker while you have to time the always warping boss with rockets while jumping on wonky bad platform ing blocks while Star Trek next generation holodeck ripoff yellow laser move around

If that phase was removed and they toned down all the platform ing ancient gods WOULD BE great

[strange gale]

[sacred dirge]

[azure oriole]

I’m kinda looking forward to being done with tag1

[static goblet]

why do some pros play without a crosshair?

[random vault]

i love this emote lmao

[burnt moss]

The dot makes it much easier to tell where you’re going to hit

[burnt moss]

Or do you mean no reticle at all?

[static goblet]

yes

[burnt moss]

I can’t speak to Doom, but I got so good at Goldeneye that I stopped using the reticle because I knew where my aim point was.

[sullen depot]

Best skin in the game is the red classic doomguy

[signal dirge]

skullface is S tier

[empty drum]

What happened to my post

[flint flame]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-endgame-gone-reduced-to-atoms-gif-26539274

[sacred dirge]

Reduced to gert

[storm turtle]

what's ur guys' doom level

mine is 130

[azure oriole]

I forgor

[midnight sparrow]

same

[azure oriole]

Haven't played in like 5 months

[storm turtle]

damn bro

[azure oriole]

Gonna wait another 7 before I play again. Problem is I've gotten too good at the game so I wanna be rusty next time I play

[storm turtle]

I recently got back into it. I played the shit out of it for the entire year of 2020

[midnight sparrow]

last time I played eternal was July 16th according to steam

[storm turtle]

yeah I felt rusty too when I hopped back on but now I've beaten the campaign on nightmare again and I'm boutta start tag 1

I dont know how people do this ultra nightmare shit tho

[midnight sparrow]

un is crazy, don't think I'll ever do it though

Ultra-Violence is just right for me

that and a bit of Nightmare if I feel like it

[azure oriole]

Same, it's challenging but you can still kinda cruise along

[storm turtle]

I think extra life mode is more fun of a challenge than un

because it's still kinda lenient but you cant really fuck up that much either

un is just so brutal

[midnight sparrow]

I've decide to stick to games in the vain of retro FPS while I patiently wait for another big title to drop

[storm turtle]

I think I got to nekravol in one of my old un runs and then died and I think that's why I stopped playing in the first place

that shit hurted

[midnight sparrow]

I can only imagine

I always start with determination, get through half of Exultia and then play something else cause I get bored

[storm turtle]

yeah I'm on controller as well. I mean I turned the weapon wheel delay all the way down and mapped my dash to left stick so it's better but still not as good as kbm

honestly the game was super fun on switch when I played it there. something about the gyro aim just felt so good

[edgy vapor]

Can Bethesda support help if the Argentas Paladi milestone is glitched?

[edgy vapor]

I figured out it's my "Master weapon mods" milestones that aren't counting. Will completing the milestones again change anything? Thanks

[sacred dirge]

Nope

Last patch is done

[flint flame]

This worked for me in 2020. Load up another save and go through the masteries. I guess the game checks the masteries and sees the other save has them all, so it’ll trigger argentas paladi.

[fallow nebula]

Ok so

I got TAG 1 yesterday
And there's this particular arena on the first level that always crashes my xbox

And I tried like 10 times

And still crashes my game

What do I do

[untold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[burnt moss]

Play something else lol

[fallow nebula]

Thanks master I would never think about that

[desert barn]

whats with the crashes recently

in the words of Gus Fring
"its unacceptable"

[burnt moss]

In the words of Jesse…

[burnt moss]

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

[desert barn]

HAAAA

explosion

walks out looking like mechanical zombie

[empty drum]

The doom two Marine skin in doom eternal is very odd considering he does not wear a helmet so the weirdest thing is as you’re playing Taras Nabad underwater you can hear the breathing, so doom guy is literally so powerful that he doesn’t need a helmet to take the oxygen out of the water

[sacred dirge]

Probably doesn't need oxygen in general

[shut moat]

my doom has been crashing too lately is it my comp or has anyone else been experiencing that ?

[flint flame]

Nvm

[shut moat]

thanks saul

[torpid sail]

You know what would be kinda cool

Doom megabloks, NGL I'd buy that

Like megabloks could make a really good doomguy, only issue is there's no much play content with doom in game you shoot shit but you don't really fly or drive much vehicles

[molten coral]

depresso mode when the icon of sin build falls over and shatters

[torpid sail]

That'd be cool or like the bfg 10000

[brittle quest]

Everyone has been experiencing it, DE isn't exactly a stable game. The only thing I think would help would be to turn down texture pool to low.

[molten coral]

the appeal to that would probably be building the more mechanical or heavy demons

[torpid sail]

Really a bfg 10000 set is like the only thing I could see them making a Lego set out of variety in characters is low for humans side we got scientists the arc troopers different classic marine colors Samuel Hayden and such but not enough to make a series on like with halo

[torpid sail]

Yeah

But and official doomguy or like Samuel Hayden character would be awesome

For megabloks

[molten coral]

as for the minifigs all I can really see is the different doomguy skins or the multiplayer armor sets from 2016

[torpid sail]

Well yeah there are those I mean mostly the variety would lie on the demons and different eras of doom like 1993- eternal doomguy

I could see like a built up stand right, and you can line them up with the year their games came out in like a plack,

[molten coral]

i'd be down for like mini packs with a minifig of either doomguy or a demon and a multiplayer podium to build. would get me back into a collecting habit

[torpid sail]

Oh yeah the podiums could be cool

I feel like the design of the megabloks figs would fit with doomguy really well anyway and like a plasma rifle or something get a collection of all the guns across the series

[signal dirge]

i think its explained in the artbook that skins are actually projections of either previous pr alternate versions of himself.

[desert barn]

doomguy literally steals life from enemies and you're worried about oxygen levels

[burnt moss]

I just killed 2 Marauders with 1 BFG. I don’t care if it was HMP, fuck those guys

[azure oriole]

Lol yeah buddy

[burnt moss]

Iykyk

[narrow vortex]

No no no

[azure oriole]

2 Marauders, 1 BFG, 0 Fucks Given

[burnt moss]

This guy knows

[narrow vortex]

Keep that shit 50 yards away from me

[burnt moss]

Stands for if you know you know

[narrow vortex]

Along with Duke Nukem Forever

Keep it away from me

[burnt moss]

#makedefaultdifficultygreatagain

[azure oriole]

I’m doing a Duke Nukem play through for old times sake

[narrow vortex]

AAAA

[azure oriole]

I still need to get Duke Nukem 3D

I've been trying to get through duke nukem forever but it's just so so boring I haven't bothered to play past the 4th or 5th level

I made it past the casino

[narrow vortex]

Ik, one of the worst games ever

AND IT’S A DUKE NUKEM GAME

ONE OF MY FAVOURITE GAME SERIES

[azure oriole]

I just want to at least finish it. I never did when I played it back in the day.

[narrow vortex]

[azure oriole]

Day off tomorrow, think I’ll try the Holt

I party hard

[sacred dirge]

Part of every day

[burnt moss]

I’m doing a NM run in my 100% save file

[azure oriole]

Now that’s a party

[burnt moss]

Feels forbidden

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/forbidden-nacho-libre-gif-25609958

[distant orbit]

Are the Milestones in Eternal still bugged? Haven't played in a while and I'd like to finally get that Gunpletionist achievement done

[burnt moss]

I lost an extra life in Exultia first Hell Arena still haha

[gilded wharf]

the experience

[burnt moss]

But I’m fully upgraded! So stupid

I just lost another on Cultist base after Rocket Arena

[gilded wharf]

the quad mancs? yeah that can escalate quickly

[burnt moss]

No the big open arena after the rocket arena (which is the quad mancs)

[icy ice]

The torment is over...World Spear ML UN...DONE

[shut moat]

nice big steve !!

I beat that as well last week

[icy ice]

It is truly...a master level lmao

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/swag-stars-nebula-cosmic-space-swag-gif-11036977

[icy ice]

Though I still have to re-do my extra lives run >:|

[shut moat]

feels so good destroying those doom hunters and slaughtering that maradaur

[icy ice]

Because when I got to the end of my extra lives run, I quit doom eternal instead of going back to the main screen and I lost that progress

So word of warning: don't do what I did lmao

[tepid wasp]

Master Level is easy wym

[icy ice]

Yea, I saved an extra BFG for the possessed & armored baron part but I didn't need it

So I just obliterated the doom hunters with the 2 bfg shots lol and then finished the marauder off with the hammer

[shut moat]

nice

lol same I had 2 extra bfg shots at that part

I'm thinking of doing other challenges now

like only use 1 main rune ultra nightmare master level

or no bfg/crucible and for world spear no using the sentinal hammer

that would be tough

[icy ice]

Yea you need a bfg for world spear, no getting around it lmao

[shut moat]

you can do without but you have to be crazy good

you can do no hammer

still that would be hard as well, to be honest when I play horde mode I forget to use the hammer

[icy ice]

Same for the most part

[shut moat]

yea

[icy ice]

It's ironic because I'd much rather do TAG and MLs UN but not the main game lol

Main game is too long, but definitely significantly easier after the 3rd mission (with the exception of gladiator and IoS)

[shut moat]

the main campaign is hard at cultist base

for UN

[azure oriole]

I wouldn’t be in a hurry to replay Eternal. At least not for awhile.

[shut moat]

but it's still hard even that part in nekrovol with the four eyes and the lava pits that keep going up and down and those pain elements dont make it easy

[burnt moss]

UN is a dumb concept, except for complete over achievers. I’d say make “New Game +” just have no checkpoints so you can’t die mid-level.

[azure oriole]

Eternal had too much bullshit in it

[icy ice]

For the entire game, I completely agree. Halo does this with their LASO challenges.

[shut moat]

I like the fact that it only takes one stupid death to reset the game

you have to train on the levels on nightmare and prepare

[icy ice]

It's definitely cheap difficulty for sure.

[shut moat]

but it's also nice having empowered demons enabled cause it forces you to adapt in the moment

[icy ice]

Empowered revenants were everywhere in my run lol

[shut moat]

Yea I especially like empowered demons on master level UN runs cause it makes you react and adapt it's fun

[azure oriole]

What about spirits on UN

[icy ice]

And to think, 6 months ago it took me about 6 hours to beat it for the first time on NM. This single run took me an hour and 20 minutes, and no saving throw

[shut moat]

yea I have a bad habit of not using saving throw

[burnt moss]

UN makes “sense” from a lore-accurate standpoint if you say each mission must be deathless. I’d even say lump the last 4 levels together for that correctness. But not the whole campaign.

[shut moat]

what 3 runes do you use steve ?

[icy ice]

So there's a very brief window with some possessed demons where you can freeze them and do mega damage to them (if not kill them) to make the battle easier. I ice bombed and unmakyr-ed the possessed baron in the beginning of WS ML to take it out in like 5 seconds. Be careful not to use more than 30 unmakyr ammo though, as you can ruin your emergency bfg supply (I killed it usually with 25-28 ammo).

[icy ice]

Air Control, Equipment Fiend, and Dazed & Confused. The golden trio lmao

[shut moat]

air mobility, dazed and confused, equipment fiend

[icy ice]

I switched to Saving throw at the final 5 fights and kept it on throughout.

[shut moat]

lol same

[icy ice]

Slaying in sync

[azure oriole]

Does World Spear ML get grouped onto the same menu as the other MLS?

[burnt moss]

I don’t think so

It appears when you open TAG not Campaign

[azure oriole]

Oh ok. I thought they might put them all together for convenience sake.

[crimson yarrow]

You know, I'm OK with the possibility of Eternal being the last Doom game

It's more thab a respectable stopping point

[rigid ruin]

Its really hard to fathom where the series can even go after Eternal. Though worst case scenario its more Eternal which I would be very happy about

[icy ice]

Doom 64 2023

[shut moat]

Honestly I hope they make a whole Master Level Campaign or at least do more master levels

[slow sigil]

[shut moat]

the game is perfect just keep making more

[slow sigil]

[shut moat]

horde mode is super fun too

battle mode sucks really bad

[strange gale]

never heard that one before

[burnt moss]

Hey where does Horde Mode rank in difficulty? Is it as hard as master levels?

[flint flame]

If you play it for the encounters sure. If you play it for milestones, speedruns, or score not by a long shot

[burnt moss]

Should I unbind Ballista or Rocket Launcher to use the Hammer?

[static goblet]

Which quick switch has the highest dps?

[wary badger]

pb rocket

@desert barn hey bro thanks for the advice of not missing shots with the pb

[static goblet]

Alr thanks!

[wary badger]

it has significantly helped me to not miss my shots but I still miss some shots but has reduced it

[desert barn]

np

[brittle quest]

Not PB rocket, the highest quickswap DPS (in base pb combos) is PB SSG.

[rigid ruin]

Theoretically speaking wouldn't Ballista PB or Ballista SSG (in close range) have the highest DPS?

Thats what I use to melt the Marauders

[slow sigil]

Those take a longer time to use, both hc and rocket make weaponswapping faster

Although BATS bal-rocket is i think the highest quickswitch combo but it's unpracticle to use

[rigid ruin]

what is BATS?

[slow sigil]

Short version: absolutely bonkers
Slightly longer version: https://youtu.be/ByPw_r5uXZc

[rigid ruin]

great now I gotta try this with the marauders till I'm used to it

[empty drum]

👔

Even doomguy respects cacos some days

[narrow vortex]

What about Pain Elementals?

[empty drum]

Straight back to hell right to the bottom

[brittle quest]

Theoretically speaking, absolutely not. PB SSG is faster than Ballista SSG which means it would deal more damage, and Ballista PB is just worse without any doubt.

But marauder as enemies are different to the rest in that the SSG is inconsistent against them, omitting it entirely against them would be best.

[maiden totem]

I want to kill demons

[trim jolt]

same dude

[azure oriole]

Amen brother

[trim jolt]

i might play doom in alil but im forever addicted to serious sam

[static goblet]

Yeah thats what ive always used

[burnt moss]

Me, who unbound modswap 😐

[slow sigil]

it's kinda unpractical to really do so eh

[burnt moss]

Should I unbind Rocket or Bal to use hammer?

[slow sigil]

neither

unless you still use them via weaponwheel on console then uhh probs rocket

[burnt moss]

Unbind meaning remove from the controller button.

[slow sigil]

.

[burnt moss]

So remove Rocket and use weapon wheel for it?

[thin marlin]

me too

[maiden totem]

Because they deserve it 🤬

[brittle quest]

It's much easier to do with WWheel, so Volden might be in luck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIDI3fAOAXQ Was also done in 30 frames.

[brittle quest]

^^ Might be of use (though I'd honestly recommend you stick with basic PB swaps and learn to aim while moving).

[thin marlin]

obviously

[maiden totem]

[sacred dirge]

Controller problems

[burnt moss]

Yeah still working on that with Joystick. Modswap isn’t worth mapping to me

[burnt moss]

Do they though?

[maiden totem]

Yes

[burnt moss]

They’re just hungry

[green phoenix]

As great as ballista is it cannot surpass the rail Gun from 2016

[slow sigil]

i think it's cooler

[green phoenix]

In some ways it is

[strange gale]

something something dksms, and uhh... gauss boosting i guess?

gauss boosting is dogshit because of the air friction in 2016, so the gauss cannon has one single edge over the ballista (being overtly busted)

the ballista is way more versatile (not entirely due to better game balance) and has arguably cooler tech

sure, i guess the gauss looks and sounds cooler, but that's surface level

[cosmic drift]

canonically, every weapon is OP

[sacred dirge]

Seige mode was a good time

[cosmic drift]

i agree

oneshotting cacodemons is a great past-time

[wanton dome]

We do still have the ballista, and the BFG 9000

[midnight sparrow]

I wouldn't mind if they brought the Gauss Cannon back for a future game. Though id would most definitely balance it so it isn't as absolutely broken as it was in 2016

[sacred dirge]

Literally kill a manc in a seige, bolt in 1 second lol

[green phoenix]

I wouldn’t mind I liked gauss cannon. It’s probably my fav doom 2016 weapon

[azure oriole]

What the fuck is with the blood maykrs

[trim jolt]

you tellin me honestly

eternal story nonsense

[flint flame]

Maykr elite when no khan

[azure oriole]

This level is horrible

[burnt moss]

Which level

[azure oriole]

The Holt

[warm heron]

Me reacting to Bethesda's post about Mick Gordon: LIES!!! cane hits floor DECEPTION!

[foggy stratus]

L post

[burnt moss]

Hardest campaign Doom level

[gray rivet]

Feckin Bethesda doubling down

[foggy stratus]

*several thousand word document with screenshots compiling extremely solid evidence*

"....nuh-uh"

[patent stream]

Wait this reference

Where is it from

[gray rivet]

Rogue one I think

[patent stream]

I’ve actually had that stuck on my head for a month now

And I can’t recall where

[warm heron]

Two words: Rogue. One.

[patent stream]

Now I gotta find a clip

Idk what I read that caused me to picture it but I couldn’t find it and my brain was hating me

Thanks

[warm heron]

You're welcome! One of my favorite quotes from that movie!

[patent stream]

Yeeeee it felt so well delivered. Hence why it left a mental imprint

[azure oriole]

Not even fun to play through

[warm heron]

Forest Whittaker's Saw Gerrera is also in Star Wars Andor

[patent stream]

I haven’t watched andor yet. Been waiting for this semester to finish

Then I’m binging it alll

[warm heron]

Perfect timing! The first season will finish next week!

[patent stream]

Oh sweet. My semester ends in 2

[wanton hazel]

nightmare is substantially harder in console 😭

[flint flame]

No?

[azure oriole]

One of the worst boss fights of all time

[burnt moss]

Isn’t mouse easier than stick?

[azure oriole]

How the fuck do you beat this dork

[patent stream]

No

Whatever tool you use best is what you use best

But it being on console doesn’t make it substantially harder

[flint flame]

You have better tools at your disposal, the mode still functions the same

[burnt moss]

This sounds incredibly contradictory. Everyone is always talking about PC superiority and how console is a disadvantage

[wanton hazel]

for me at least cus holy crap i don't like not having the fps or the buttons or ballista boosting or aiming

[patent stream]

Because people exaggerate everything

If I give someone who has never played a video game in their Life a keyboard and mouse or a controller they will equally suck with both

If I give a controller user a keyboard and mouse they will suck
And if I give a keyboard and mouse user a controller they will suck

[burnt moss]

Just like my 5 year old would crash my van as quickly as he would my muscle car. Doesn’t make the two vehicles equal in performance.

[patent stream]

No but it does make you a bad father

[waxen field]

You know what can’t be exaggerated Id speedrunning loss in reputation after that recent Bethesda statement

[patent stream]

One of the biggest things that has always been the hugest thing between pc and console

Was fps

And consoles now do 120fps

[burnt moss]

But the master of mkb is not held back as much as the master of controller is.

[patent stream]

Nope. Game was still designed for controller

And even then it wouldn’t be substantially harder

[waxen field]

Looks at the stupid grenade switch button

[patent stream]

XD

[burnt moss]

If they were equal then aim assist wouldn’t be on console

[waxen field]

Though even on controller the switch button is stupid

[sacred dirge]

I've never felt held back in my life that's a I'm going suck mentality

I regularly play with kbm players in fps games ( friends of mine) still dominate

And they are all UN level players

[burnt moss]

Whether you feel it is irrelevant. Joystick has limitations. You’re good despite those limitations. Why else would aim assist only be available on console?

[sacred dirge]

I never said I feel. I'm telling you straight up facts

Just because something is hard for you it doesn't make it a universal truth

[burnt moss]

“I've never felt held back in my life that's a I'm going suck mentality”

[sacred dirge]

I don't use aim asset or at least try to put it at low as possible. That's what alot of high level controller players do

[burnt moss]

Everything I know on this topic, I learned from you guys in this discord

[sacred dirge]

Yeah I don't feel held back. I'm pointing out your mentality is dumb

You can't blame a tool for holding you back. Just need to put the hours in

[burnt moss]

That’s because aim assist is bad. That’s part of why joystick is hard. They tried to level the playing field by giving us an advantage that actually doesn’t help much.

[sacred dirge]

I have doom records and I have friends who are also on controller with records that kbm players have not achieved. So what you believe is just straight up wrong

[burnt moss]

My point is you’d be even better with a mouse, after mastering the new platform.

[sacred dirge]

Not at all. I'm pure dog shit with kbm.

[patent stream]

Substantially harder was the key word

[burnt moss]

And you’ve mastered it?

[patent stream]

But if you suck you duck regardless of you have keyboard and mouse

[burnt moss]

You’re making some faulty conclusions

[sacred dirge]

Yeah there's no magic thing you use that will make you good doom player. Wish people stopped thinking that

[burnt moss]

Literally nobody is saying that

[patent stream]

You are free to clarify