#doom-eternal

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midnight rivet
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are your hands melted yet?

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doomicorn op

loud leaf
midnight rivet
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ur playing eternal on a switch

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that kills switches

brittle quest
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Nope, and if anyone says so they're lying through their teeth.

midnight rivet
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yup

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when u born

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im a fucking nerd

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1989?

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thats when the pentium came out

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oh shit

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1993

loud leaf
midnight rivet
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i beg to differ

loud leaf
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Nah fr

midnight rivet
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it proly runs better on a phone

brittle quest
loud leaf
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On the switch lite i can send a photo

midnight rivet
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u probably playing on lowest settings on 480p and still getting 30fps

loud leaf
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You cant even change the settingsšŸ’€

brittle quest
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Hey now, I don't even interact in this chat half the time šŸ˜”

loud leaf
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Idc i dont have any other platform to play it on

midnight rivet
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bro get a budget build

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i spent like 450 and get like 80fps on high

loud leaf
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Yeahthats 900 leva

midnight rivet
loud leaf
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Bulgarian currency

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Eastern Europe

midnight rivet
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bulgarian mfšŸ’€

midnight rivet
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imps are the most annoying demons

brittle seal
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It's ok

midnight rivet
brittle seal
midnight rivet
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yeah

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imps are easy to kill but have inf range

brittle quest
midnight rivet
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just supershotgun at good enough range

brittle quest
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That's your friend, a very helpful friend. Cherish it.

midnight rivet
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maykr ss is best skin hands down

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its easy to get and looks good

midnight rivet
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eh, it looks good, but not maykr good

brittle quest
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Haloween event.

midnight rivet
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someone is selling a diabolic ss on etsy

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for 6000

brittle quest
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It's the only one I had lying on discord for the moment revenantshrug

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Nevermind, this one's better with the viewmodel.

midnight rivet
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why do ppl thing the spider mastermind and arachnatron are the same

brittle quest
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Not a single person has ever said that, unless I'm in the unrealised company of individuals with above average intellect somehow.

midnight rivet
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yup u are

wary badger
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my laptop keeps shutting down when i play games(i playes 30m but it crashed and shutted down)

wary badger
midnight rivet
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wb the last boss of doom 2016? it seems a bit bigger and less deadly than archnatron

wary badger
midnight rivet
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also im too lazy to open doom eternal to check if im wrong

midnight rivet
wary badger
midnight rivet
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its half the size of its head

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should i try playing de with 25600 dpi?

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yup

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screw 1000dpi

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holy balls i cant open steam

brittle quest
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Also clean your laptop's fans

wary badger
wary badger
brittle quest
wary badger
brittle quest
rich cosmos
wary badger
gloomy vapor
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I'm having issues finding the texture resolution option in Doom Eternal
is there none?

azure oriole
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it's been a year since the last major update, did id cut the support for the game?

drifting chasm
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I did but still doesnt work

azure forum
brittle quest
round shadow
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Bruh xd

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Happy Halloween šŸ—æšŸ‘

gloomy vapor
burnt moss
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I recommend using Gyro aiming

drifting chasm
burnt moss
opal galleon
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It is a perfectly valid way to complete all content in the game albeit at a frame-rate disadvantage šŸ‘

ruby solar
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anyone else not able to get into the event? I haven't been able to for a while.

gloomy vapor
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I seem to be stuck in a time loop
I keep repeating the battle in the first level where two cacodemons spawn,
then one arachnotron and one more cacodemon
I try to never stop moving and to spam glory kills, simply to stay alive
but I keep dying

most of the time I don't even get past the first two cacodemons
more likely than not I fail the grenade throw and die (not sure why it only eats the grenade sometimes)
other times I manage to kill one but the other obliterates me
by the time I get to the arachnotron I'm almost out of ammo, sometimes I don't even have enough to kill it with the aimed shot
and when the next cacodemon spawns I'm already out of ammo

I know chainsaw is there but it always says "not enough fuel"

I keep repeating this trying to figure out what I'm actually supposed to be doing, since it isn't working, but I don't seem bright enough to do so
I really could use some tips

frigid walrus
gloomy vapor
frank rivet
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Is there a way to uninstall only the dlc

burnt moss
frank rivet
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Steam

burnt moss
# frank rivet Steam

Probably but idk. Xbox lets you delete add ons if you go to the game details or something. I removed Story Mode from MK11 that way.

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Just kidding if that fight takes more than 10 attempts it automatically uninstalls Doom

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50 and it uninstalls Steam

gloomy vapor
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I'm not a fan of playing in difficulties lower than default
feels borderline cheaty
I'd rather take more time and actually learn to play the game

with that said, I just failed 4 consecutive grenade throws into a cacodemon's mouth Cacoawkward

burnt moss
gloomy vapor
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yes

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the difficulty truly spiked up going from fully upgraded DOOM 2016 to brand new Eternal save
I don't recall 2016 being this hard when I started it but then again that was years ago
it kinda feels like I take 2x damage while enemies have 4x health

brittle quest
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Needless to say it's a rather redundant option that has minimal impact on graphical fidelity.

azure oriole
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Those Hell Priests sure went out like punks

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Quite quickly too haha

gloomy vapor
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might be too early for me to judge but so far I feel the opposite; the brutality has been quite toned down
at least for glory kills
most of them so far are just "blade to the skull"

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shotgun ammo is the first to run out, though

worn sphinx
gloomy vapor
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should I use chainsaw on regular enemies?
I reckon bigger ones would drop more ammo but they also require more fuel and I rarely have it

worn sphinx
brittle quest
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This becomes reflex till a point you can chainsaw the precise moment it's recharged just by muscle memory.

slow sigil
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Or just around that time

gloomy vapor
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it's gonna take a lot of time to get used to all this stuff
assuming I ever get to that point; I'll likely keep messing up and just clear stuff by chance
I've never been the skillful kind
DOOM 2016 made me feel powerful; Eternal makes me feel powerless šŸ™‚

slow sigil
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It'll make you feel powerfull af when you get to know it

gloomy vapor
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what I have realized already is these two games play nothing alike and I should drop all expectations I had
easier said than done, though

slow sigil
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Yes

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It's usually a good idea to drop your expectations when playing different games

gloomy vapor
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well, sequels don't usually stray too far away from previous entries
at least in my experience; this is the exception to the rule

slow sigil
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I mean it didnt go too far away in spirit

icy ice
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I think doom 2016 and eternal play similarly although eternal is set up in a way for you to actually understand and master the mechanics of the game better than 2016

gloomy vapor
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gameplay and ambientation are completely different, so far
the only unchanged points are DOOM guy, the enemies and the general lore
but you could very well exchange the MC and the enemies and call it a completely different name

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I am not complaining, btw

icy ice
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In 2016 I just blindly used a few weapons whereas in eternal I had reasons to use everything.

gloomy vapor
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I played 2016 to relieve stress
I play Eternal to accumulate stress

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what's best for killing arachnotrons, after taking out their rifles?
so far the only thing I found effective is the plasma beam

dusk copper
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are you in the early game

lofty estuary
gloomy vapor
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yes, I just started

shotgun to full auto
is that really a good idea?
with so few weapons I don't think I should be spending shotgun ammo that carelessly

lofty estuary
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i mean you could chainsaw right after (yes its a bit of a waste but it gets him out of the equation early on)

dusk copper
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you can use grenades and sticky bombs

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plasma and blood punch

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he becomes incredibly easy when you get other weapons

lofty estuary
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it also depends how quick you can weapon swap right after shooting, i use a controller so its sorta like snapping onto something on the weapon wheel so i can get it and shoot quick

gloomy vapor
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I, uh... I think I'll leave slayer gates for later...

dusk copper
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they aint that bad

lofty estuary
dusk copper
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i think hes on hurt me plenty

lofty estuary
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hmm, might need a bit of practice but yeah shouldn't be too hard then

dusk copper
gloomy vapor
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I started just today
I'm only at the second level

dusk copper
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on pc or console

gloomy vapor
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PC

dusk copper
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you should set keybinds

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itll make the game so much easier and better and more fun

brittle quest
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It's a good habit to start by keybinds so you don't suffer later.

dusk copper
# gloomy vapor PC

i recommend watching yt videos on different youtubers keybinds, because a lot of them are pretty good, however you can set different weapons to whatever feels best for you

brittle quest
brittle quest
dusk copper
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i took under the mayos keybinds

icy ice
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Sticky bomb the turret the Arachnotron has

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Or precision bolt

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Best options early on

gloomy vapor
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I've already been playing with the bindings
I haven't really felt the need to change many, though

dusk copper
gloomy vapor
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I feel the weapon wheel makes more sense than single mappings for each weapon
I'll likely start using it once I have >4 weapons

quick grove
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so will there be any more updates to the game or is id done with it?

lofty estuary
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yeah i think they're done with it and moving on to other things

midnight sparrow
quick grove
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ah i heard from my friend they were making a new game mode but i didnt know if he knew what he was talking about

midnight sparrow
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Your friend doesn’t know what he’s talking about

dusk copper
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wish they added a sandbox

quick grove
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i wish that you could set the waves for the ripatorium. that would be the best.

midnight sparrow
midnight sparrow
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That and official mod support

quick grove
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like you can choose how many and which ones

dusk copper
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aka sandbox

quick grove
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yeah

dusk copper
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i think theres a sandbox mod actually

quick grove
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nope

dusk copper
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a mod that you have to download i mean šŸ’€

quick grove
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... yeah what other kind of mod is there

flint flame
dusk copper
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nah where you can spawn whatever enemy you want

quick grove
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dude no way james mcgill real?

quick grove
dusk copper
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you can probably find one

quick grove
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you cant because it does not exist

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i spend like half an hour looking for one a few weeks ago

flint flame
edgy fjord
dusk copper
dusk copper
edgy fjord
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if you put this in your doom eternal directory and run the game it should allow you to spawn enemies with the "chrispy" command

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like if you want to spawn an imp you'll have to type "chrispy ai/fodder/imp" into the console

dusk copper
edgy fjord
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yeah

dusk copper
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not the base but just the doom eternal folder

edgy fjord
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yeah

oak pebble
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@quick grove installed a mod that makes the hammer sound like a fart

flint flame
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Hellbringer? More like Fartbringer!!

azure oriole
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Speechless

quick grove
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i did

burnt moss
burnt moss
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Reclaimed Fart

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The Dark Fart

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Fart Eternal

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FartHook

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Fartist Base

ember void
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the fart lord is better

flint flame
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No fart can be pooted in this…holy place

bitter yarrow
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Absolutely 0 farts

burnt moss
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Am I… the Farter… Dr. Hayden?

burnt moss
azure oriole
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Taras Nabad can eat balls man

hushed garden
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naballs

flint flame
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Taras No balls? DavothSad

azure oriole
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Horrible level

gilded wharf
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once you get the rocket launcher and ballista they become much easier to deal with, lock on burst can stagger them all on its own

quick grove
calm oyster
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taras nabad is cool but wow the swimming parts suck

gilded wharf
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you can also just save up 3 chainsaw fuel for the mandatory arachnotrons on Hell on Earth, since ammo pickups are plentiful on that level anyway and the only other heavy demons present are cacos

azure oriole
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Gd marauders

quick grove
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Taras nabad is my least favorite level because of the long puzzle sections and because it has a lot of meh arenas

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It’s also pretty damn long, but some levels can pull that off

azure oriole
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I’m still not past it. Damn Marauder keeps killing me.

bitter yarrow
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Early game I think I took out the turret then sprayed with heavy assault rifle

azure oriole
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crazy

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dude

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what's the difference between doom and doom eternal

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am Hella confused

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One is called doom and the other is also called doom but also has the word eternal slapped onto the end

crimson yacht
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I’m going for Ultra Nightmare on Xbox One and I can sometimes get to level 3, any tips?

burnt moss
crimson yacht
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What’s SSG?

burnt moss
crimson yacht
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Ok thank you

fickle mist
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buff doom guy please not strong enough

crimson yacht
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My plan after Ultra Nightmare is to also do it on the DLC

bitter yarrow
wary badger
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im not gonna play long in doom eternal since it will shut down my laptop and loose my progress and i would only practice in the tutorial and quick switch all of my combos so i wont get rusty until my laptop is fixed i would only play long

wary badger
azure oriole
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Can you play the dlc on ps4?

flint flame
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No

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You can not play the dlc made for all platforms minus switch, which would come later, on ps4

azure oriole
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So it’s gonna come to ps4? Because it says I can only play on ps5 which is weird when you can play the base game on ps4

wary badger
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what if doom guy and khan maykr made a human maykr hybrid

icy ice
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So when I first beat the World Spear ML on NM, it took me quite literally 6 hours to do, all in one sitting. Now, I've improved to the point where it takes only 2! I still have a few deaths to work out (like the possessed & armored baron part, and the possessed doom hunter part), but I think I have a strategy for every part now.

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I just wish there was a way to practice a checkpoint without doing the entire level over again .

wary badger
flint flame
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It would be dead.

wary badger
flint flame
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Why would the slayer ever bang KM? Even if he did, he would likely regret his actions. Also this is a hella weird topic, no more horny

wary badger
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would it die due to birthing problems ?

flint flame
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Random topic that did not need to be brought up ishitted

azure oriole
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Server gone crazy tonight

wary badger
random vault
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its the doom discord, nothing really important

icy ice
azure oriole
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How do you unlock Doom 1993 in Eternal?

flint flame
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Acquire all cheat codes

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(Alternatively just run the wad file with gzdoom)

icy ice
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Is there any hint in DE that indicates what the password should be to unlock Doom 2?

azure oriole
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I found out from an old gameranx video

flint flame
azure oriole
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Yup

burnt moss
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Alrighty, back to the MC ML grind

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I wonder if watching a video on it will help

icy ice
burnt moss
azure oriole
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So if you die during a ML, do you have to restart the whole level?

icy ice
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If you quit then you do

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You have to do it in one sitting which is very annoying

azure oriole
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Brutal

icy ice
burnt moss
azure oriole
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I’m still trying to get past the Marauder on Taras Nabad. Jerk.

azure oriole
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Clearly

icy ice
wary badger
# azure oriole Clearly

save the 3 gas pipes for the cacodemon them bomb the zombies behind the marauder so they wont mess up the marauders cycle

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the mecha zombies need to die. fetus delete them.

azure oriole
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The one late in the level, right after you grab the crucible, is the one I can’t get past. For whatever reason.

gilded wharf
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that secret encounter in cultist base with 2 whiplashes and a manc gets me every time, I just can't find a consistent way to clear it on nightmare

azure oriole
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I had some great momentum on this game up until this level. It’s been kicking my ass.

burnt moss
burnt moss
azure oriole
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Oh ya, that’s easy

wary badger
burnt moss
burnt moss
azure oriole
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Killing that Archvile earlier in the level brought infinite amounts of satisfaction hahaha.

wary badger
icy ice
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Mars core ML is fun though

azure oriole
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That was a fun level

wary badger
icy ice
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You can skip past a few parts but I don't do any crazy ballista boosts or glitches or anything

wary badger
icy ice
wary badger
icy ice
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The last arena I do at least like 20 laps around it just to avoid everything going on lmao

burnt moss
icy ice
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You'll know once you do UN runs lmao

wary badger
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my laptop is gonna be fixed soon at wednesday (if the fixing works) when its fix im gonna play long again in doom eternal

icy ice
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I even accidentally used a crucible on a whiplash instead of a tyrant which almost ended my run 😭

wary badger
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im in a mission where i im trying new missions which i neglected because im intimidated of those missions

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but now its no longer intimidating (not urdak, urdak is still intimidating)

burnt moss
burnt moss
azure oriole
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Feels like there isn’t a whole lot of Revenants in this game.

icy ice
icy ice
wary badger
icy ice
azure oriole
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I’ve lost track of the demon types in this one

burnt moss
icy ice
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Even with a regular NM run for the first time it'll take a lot of attempts on the first time. The learning curve of doing a master level the first time is pretty steep imo

burnt moss
icy ice
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The harder ones for sure

azure oriole
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Are the eternal MLs comparable in any way to the old Doom 2 ones?

icy ice
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I wish I could tell ya, but I haven't played doom 2 yet 😬

gilded wharf
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my UN runs usually die in cultist base doomguy_dead

azure oriole
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Me neither. I’ve only done the modern games, if you include 3.

icy ice
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I played the first episode of Doom 1, and the first level of Doom 64 and Doom 3. I need to finish up the older ones.

azure oriole
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I played 3 back in like 2005. I can’t remember a lot of it, so my current play through feels mostly like the first time.

burnt moss
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Any idea why half of my PB shots come out as base fire? What am I screwing up about the timing?

icy ice
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Might be rushing the shot, sometimes it does happen to me when I quick-swap too fast

burnt moss
wary badger
burnt moss
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I managed to kill one marauder but then I died 😦

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That’s enough for tonight

azure oriole
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Damn Marauders

gilded wharf
wary badger
burnt moss
brittle quest
azure oriole
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I’m gonna try again tomorrow

wary badger
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armored mancubus are more annoying then marauders

azure oriole
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Taras Nabad gave me a headache šŸ˜†

wary badger
gilded wharf
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blood punch is the only thing that will destroy armored manc armor, right?

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I usually just leave them until last so I can safely ice bomb + bp

wary badger
burnt moss
inner sage
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uwu

brittle quest
wary badger
gilded wharf
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blood maykrs though... doomguy_profile_r

inner sage
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šŸ™šŸ»

brittle quest
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A full power yeet blast with a SSG opens him up instantaneously and can be comboed into a pswapped ssg lob, he's absolutely trivialised.

gilded wharf
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punchswap SSG is disgusting

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i'm pretty wary of getting in close since i've been trolled so many times by bug punch but max damage SSG blast is something to behold

wary badger
brittle quest
wary badger
gilded wharf
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my favorite way to clear fodder

wary badger
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veing or being i want to full name it

gilded wharf
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headshot blast is good for clearing fodder, yeah

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I usually delay HC mastery for a while so regular punchswap pb is my solution until then

icy ice
gilded wharf
icy ice
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I also did it on ITYTD lmao

gilded wharf
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I picked faster weapon swap because I feel like I rarely need as many dashes as faster dasher gives except when platforming

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although I think armor is the best sentinel crystal choice, since it's so easy to fill with SSG

brittle seal
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Just unlocked a secret reward in the fall mega event (it's a pair of nuclear launch codes)

gloomy vapor
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but is blood punch actually reliable for anything?
since you don't have the option to save it, as it's used automatically when you melee
it's very unlikely to have it ready at any point

slow sigil
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And melee without BP is literally worthless

wary badger
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i could launch it to ohio and florida and detroit to destroy it from reality

gloomy vapor
slow sigil
brittle seal
brittle seal
valid shadow
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Hi

waxen field
brittle seal
waxen field
brittle seal
waxen field
brittle seal
waxen field
brittle seal
bitter yarrow
wary badger
brittle seal
brittle seal
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Ik no one probably cares but good night

bitter yarrow
bitter yarrow
gilded wharf
# gloomy vapor but is blood punch actually reliable for anything? since you don't have the opti...

blood punch always oneshots pinkies and spectres, even from the front, which can be useful if you're stuck in a tight spot and don't have ice bomb handy
it does a whopping amount of damage to cyber mancs and doom hunter sled
it always breaks energy shields
it also falters most enemies which can sometimes save you from melee attacks

jumping into melee range to blood punch for 1 rocket worth of damage is usually not a good idea, but there are situations where it's useful

bitter yarrow
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Wait it does one shot pinkies

slow sigil
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Yes

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But so does a ssg shot to their tail so

bitter yarrow
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Yeah but then I have to get behind them which is a hassle. And I always forget about ice bomb

azure oriole
bitter yarrow
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I forget all of those

azure oriole
bitter yarrow
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Yeah that's the main thing I do

wary badger
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i managed to play doom eternal knowing its gonna sound like a lamborghini and shut down my laptop but i finished it when i glory killed the doom hunter (the one in doom hunter base mission) it shutted down on me, but still finished the boss fight

quick grove
gilded wharf
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I liked stun bomb better. Meme beam feels so clunky to use

strange gale
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that's crazy bro

burnt moss
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I’ll watch it if you share.

bitter yarrow
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All though I feel like stun bomb would just act as a second, worse freeze grenade in doom eternal

bitter yarrow
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How do I get more makyr skins?

flint flame
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That’s the neat part, you don’t

azure forum
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Astro:
HC
Plasma Riffle
Chaingun
BFG (default skin I think?)

Maykr:
SSG
Ballista
RL
Combat S

burnt moss
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Bro you were shittalking the slayer for misbehaving 🤣

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Hi!

burnt moss
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I’ve noticed a significant delay between my PB shot and the stagger of the fodder I shot. Is that normal?

bitter yarrow
sacred dirge
burnt moss
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So nothing is wrong? It’s not usually during animation

bitter yarrow
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Its something with how the plasma shot deals damage I think

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It does it differently then other weapons I'm pretty sure leading to it being weird

sacred dirge
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I have a life from time to time

valid wren
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Whats that

burnt moss
flint flame
bitter yarrow
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Oh mb my brain read it as pr

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What does pb mean?

burnt moss
azure oriole
burnt moss
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You’re not a true fan if you have a life

dim pelican
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@azure oriole bro nice name

burnt moss
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Makes me wonder if he’s a cylon

bitter yarrow
dim pelican
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Is he one of the final five?

azure oriole
burnt moss
azure oriole
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We trusted him!

burnt moss
lofty estuary
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our eyes have been opened

gloomy vapor
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does secret collection / challenge progression revert when loading checkpoints?

ember void
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no

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u can cheese challenges easily by loading checkpoints lol

icy ice
sacred dirge
azure oriole
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Happy Halloween everyone.

dusk copper
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if i get another pc and i download doom eternal again and i sign into my account, will all my stuff still be saved

azure oriole
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Thanks

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Guys, I play doom eternal on my Ps4

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But right now I don't have my controller. It's at my grandma's.

dusk copper
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i would hate to lose my unm achievements and my level of 164 šŸ’€

azure oriole
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So What do you guys do on Doom eternal when you're bored.

dusk copper
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infinite arena mode

burnt moss
dusk copper
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all my skins bro

burnt moss
# dusk copper really???\

Changing platforms loses your save files and milestones so I don’t think downloading it on a new PC would carry that data either

dusk copper
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imma kms bro 😭

gloomy vapor
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if you run it on Steam save is backup up to the cloud; you will have the save on any PC you log into
by "level" I guess you mean the Bethesda account's; which you will keep as long as you log into the same account

dusk copper
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GOOD

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šŸ˜ šŸ˜ šŸ˜

gloomy vapor
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it's still a good idea to back up your saves; even if it seems redundant with cloud saves

gloomy vapor
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you can use software like Drive or Dropbox to automatically backup certain folders

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I keep wasting flame belch
I tend to "reload" simply by muscle memory

wraith forge
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no halloween menu background this year? 😢

gloomy vapor
#

man, this game is absolutely unforgiving

azure oriole
#

Yup

gloomy vapor
#

OK, that's enough frustration for one day

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it's gonna take a while to clear and a lot of self-control to avoid fuming
I fear it likely won't take much longer for me to drop the game; I'm having trouble getting myself to enjoy it
I want the satisfaction that comes with it but most of the time I just feel dread and helplessness

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also, side thought: 1-ups feel quite pointless, being lost on checkpoint load

undone pebble
#

what difficulty are you plaing on? @gloomy vapor

gloomy vapor
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HMP

undone pebble
#

what's that stand for

azure oriole
#

I’ve definitely found this game to be frustrating at times

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Hurt Me Plenty

undone pebble
#

I think I'm playing on Ultra-violence?

#

Just got the super shotgun, which is super helpful XD

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Cultist base is fun, the entire time I'm just losing my shit to the soundtrack

gloomy vapor
#

I'm still at mission 3 but I'm having even more issues I was having with mission 2
but this makes perfect sense, because the big battle in mission 3 is full of heavyweights
it finally seemed like I was doing great, in the last failed run before I quit
but even then I can't acquire enough ammo to survive for long enough to clear it
and it keeps throwing big baddies at you and very few weaklings so even replenishing armor and hp is precariously hard once you get all the items from the arena

undone pebble
#

Are you just doing the campaign?

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  1. don't stop moving

  2. Find the best combos of weapons for the bigger demons

azure oriole
#

I thought the first 3 levels were awful

undone pebble
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  1. Take full advantage of chainsaw kills and glory kills
gloomy vapor
undone pebble
#

Ah, movement is key

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That's definitely the biggest thing

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Usually what happens with me in a new area is all get as far as I can and just take note of the area I'm in and what demons spawn in and where.

gloomy vapor
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I was trying to do that too but this place spawns so many I can't keep track

undone pebble
#

I was stuck on part of cultist base for the past 2 days because it's hard AF on ultra violence

sacred dirge
#

Yeah there ways to get pretty op in 2016. I actually like to get over powered in games time to time

undone pebble
sacred dirge
#

Oh definitely. And it isn't just they're purple now and have 4 times health enjoy

inner sage
#

uwu

gloomy vapor
#

it's kinda ironic how DOOM 2016 is the kind of game you play when you get frustrated with DOOM Eternal

#

alright, gonna give this one more go
ragequit incoming...

burnt moss
gloomy vapor
#

ah, love it when the weapon auto-swaps to the rocket launcher and it kills you
gonna turn off the setting...

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this last run I was able to survive for longer, but I didn't even beat half of the enemies
I'm having a lot of trouble with the basics
I can't use chainsaw against anything, even at full fuel, and flame belch and grenade are always on cooldown, somehow
I struggle specially with the hell knights and whiplashes
they take all my ammo and hp away

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not that one

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with how little rocket ammo can be carried it felt like a waste

quick grove
#

with whiplashes i find that the best thing for them is pb+ballista+pb

gloomy vapor
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also, I'm pretty sure resetting the level wouldn't actually let me choose again

quick grove
#

wait are you doing UN?

gloomy vapor
#

I'm quite positive that's already been written into the save

burnt moss
quick grove
#

honestly, in cultist base you should spam the shit out of pb+rocket

gloomy vapor
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grenade just freezes for one hit
which doesn't really help much

gloomy vapor
#

sticky, precision, beam and remote

gloomy vapor
sacred dirge
quick grove
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uh you should be able to get like 3-5 hits in depending on what you use

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ice bomb+grenade+flame belch+(ssg+ballista or pb+rocket or ssg+pb or whatever the hell)

gloomy vapor
#

wait, grenade types don't share a cooldown?

quick grove
#

ive actually found a few cases where ssg+rocket is viable

azure forum
quick grove
#

generally best 2-weapon quickswitches:

  1. ssg+pb
  2. pb+rocket
  3. ssg+ballista
  4. ballista+pb
  5. ballista+rocket
  6. ssg+rocket
quick grove
#

waste of ammo. i rarely ever use it.

azure forum
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Waste of ammo? So remote det is better then? šŸ˜‚

quick grove
#

i just dont see the point in putting 3 rockets into something quickly. like i guess its good, but id much rather just do pb+rocket or ssg+rocket

azure forum
#

Good? Nah, it's actually pretty OP

quick grove
#

ssg+rocket is good in the case where you wanna move close and far quickly, found it really useful

quick grove
azure forum
#

Ammp isn't an issue in this game. 30 PB shots, 12 SSG, 10 ballista, and 13 rockets

quick grove
#

then its mediocre

quick grove
azure forum
#

Dude lock on is probably one of the mods that doesn't need any combo to go oonga boonga with it

quick grove
#

yeah idk how to do it isnt it like pb+lock on?

azure forum
quick grove
azure forum
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Pb ballista is better for weak points if anything

quick grove
#

yeah something like that. or for hitting close + far targets. imo its pretty good because it ties in with how you should keep moving

azure forum
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So, let's do math, 1 single lock on burst does 2700 damage I think, PB rocket does about 1200 if I am correct, you still need to fire around 2 cycles of Pb rockets to deal 2400 damage or 3 to deal 3600 damage. 2 uses 12 heavy cannon ammo and 2 rockers and 3 use 18 HC ammo and 3 rockets anyways

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OK, thanks Asiju. So 4 shots to deal less than 3 rocket anyways using 2 PB rocket cycle

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They travel at the same speed too I'm pretty sure anyways, so you only thing 2 PB shots faster if anything

quick grove
#

in the time that you can lock on, you can probably get in like a bit over 2 cycles (so yeah a little less dps), plus you spread out ammo usage, plus you have the benefit of having a high-accuracy shot along with high splash damage shots

azure forum
#

lock on is more accurate if anything

quick grove
#

i mean high accuracy as in you can target weak points

azure forum
#

So using 4 shots is more efficient than 3

quick grove
#

also lock on only hits one target, pb+rocket has the benefit of more choice in where the rockets go

#

which has downsides but also upsides

quick grove
#

spreading out ammo. the game usually doesnt just give you a bunch of a specific ammo type

azure forum
#

Pb uses 6 per shot

quick grove
#

... to attack multiple thing at the same time?

#

idk i guess thats just my playstyle

azure forum
#

OK, all scenarios are different, but saying lock on is not ammo efficient i think is wrong. If your playstyle is about pb rockets then that's on you

quick grove
#

thats on me for more efficient gameplay cacocutie

azure forum
#

Like if hitting multiple demons, let's say, using rockets to hit multiple fodder isn't efficient, you can use stickies, multiple heavies, you can use Dblade, etc.

#

The problem is, your gameplay isn't efficient son šŸ˜‚

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But you do you NODDERS

quick grove
#

yeah ive died from it a few times but its pretty funny and it can be fun

azure forum
#

I don't need to, as long as you enjoy the game, you do you sir. Not trying to Start an endless argument. At the end ripping and tearing is what matters

quick grove
#

umm actually 😔😔😔 you insulted my gameplay!!!!!!! im legally entitled to argue with you for hours upon end with no real reason HappyGuy

azure forum
#

As long as we both agree that Full auto sucks, then we good NODDERS

quick grove
#

eh, moving around kinda makes other enemies the closest enemy anyway

quick grove
#

but yeah its kinda bad except for stone impts

#

sometimes i use it to finish off fodder, as a shot to the head will kill them and give ammo back

#

SOULSPHERE no

azure forum
#

Mobile turret if anything. Where's Bloodshot these days? šŸ˜‚

upper sky
#

True I was gonna say

#

Micro missiles is decent

azure oriole
#

Ive actually found pb sticky a good quickswap combo tbh, its good midrange and especially damaging if you get critical hits with the sticky bomb

burnt moss
quick grove
#

depends on the context

burnt moss
sacred dirge
#

Absolutely then quick swap to FA for the finisher Gert

icy ice
gilded wharf
gilded wharf
gloomy vapor
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now that you mention it, I actually haven't been doing that recently
by the way, I just restarted the level to get the lock-on mod and I cleared the arena in the first try... didn't even spend any of the extra lives
the lock-on mod is a godsend

icy ice
gloomy vapor
#

no, I meant I haven't been mistaking it
I am using the flame belch; but now on purpose

gilded wharf
#

you mean cultist base?

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that arena with 3 mancs and a bunch of gargoyles is a run ender for sure

gloomy vapor
#

I don't know if there are more arenas
quite possible, much to my dismay
this was the first one and there's still half a level left

gilded wharf
#

maybe doom hunter base then, is it the one arena where you're introduced to the pinky?

gilded wharf
gloomy vapor
#

in this one there were several mancubi, an arachnotron, a hell knight and three whiplashes
I might be missing some cause I really don't have that good of a memory

coral cradle
#

guys whats with all the expantions things on steam that you can buy?

gilded wharf
undone pebble
gilded wharf
undone pebble
#

The small arena with the swingy bars

upper sky
gloomy vapor
#

how careful do I need to be with suit upgrades?
there's so many I can't make up my mind

icy ice
#

Don't worry about the map and exploration ones, as you can probably roam around and find everything if you really wanted to

#

Don't do the toxic suit upgrade until SGN.

gloomy vapor
#

that's one of the ones I was considering
one of the things I think actually improved my survivability is moving in 3d rather than 2d
before I was simply walking in circles; now I actually jump and dash
I think the enemies in this game are actually better at dodging than me, for now šŸ˜…

icy ice
#

You'll get the hang of it soon enough dealguy

gloomy vapor
#

I won't be counting on it to be soon
I'm quite slow at games and I never really quite "get there"

quick grove
#

do you know how to quick switch

#

basic quick switching is really easy to learn

sacred dirge
azure oriole
#

Word

sacred dirge
#

Yee

gloomy vapor
#

do slayer challenges count as secret?
cause I'm pretty sure it didn't count in mission 2 but I'm missing one secret marker on mission 3

gloomy vapor
#

how sure are you? cause I have the secret marker skill and the only remaining marked "secret" is the slayer door

hushed garden
#

the slayer gate isn't part of the three mission challenges iirc

gloomy vapor
#

no, I meant to ask if the slayer gate counts as "secret"
I didn't mean "challenge" as in mission challenge

hushed garden
#

oh then yeah it does

gloomy vapor
#

but then why didn't it on mission 2? cause I got all secrets there and I doubt simply entering the door unlocks the secret

hushed garden
#

did you find the slayer key too

gloomy vapor
#

yes; and I unlocked, entered and, inevitable, failed the challenge
and it still doesn't count

#

maybe I'm missing one two in mission 2 and I just didn't notice; I don't know

#

oh, yeah; I'm missing that one too
mission 1 is the only one where I "found" all secrets

rotund mural
#

Ultra Nightmare is Fun

#

If they’re is any more Future Doom Games they’re has to be another difficulty higher then Ultra Nightmare

burnt moss
#

Although ā€œsecretā€ is not a significant term in Doom Eternal

pearl fox
#

The mission Paladi agents are buged?

#

Or what

azure oriole
#

i usually do pb sb in a burst of two cycles since im not good enough to do it for a while

ruby solar
#

I just realized you can pre-select weapon mods for each weapon on the weapon wheel before actually taking them out. that's cool

#

Also swinging around using the meathook and unleashing a full-auto frenzy just feels SO BADASS

flint flame
#

Oh nvm doomy got it

sacred dirge
wary badger
sacred dirge
#

Hello there

burnt moss
#

Back to the grind

icy ice
#

Also, fitting playing doom on Halloween. Happy Halloween fellow Doomers dealguy

burnt moss
#

I beat the marauder arena! @azure oriole thanks for BFG tip!

icy ice
#

Good luck with that buff totem next šŸ”„

burnt moss
icy ice
#

Oh wait you have a few more small areas first

burnt moss
icy ice
burnt moss
#

Big open Doom Hunter arena is my stopping point for now. Maybe I’ll continue after wifey goes to bed

tepid wasp
#

scrolling up implies it's the Buffed Marauder area of the blood swamp

burnt moss
#

Ok I’m gonna save the final arena for tomorrow. Haven’t even tried once yet. I’ll spend a week or so on it before I start asking for help

burnt moss
tepid wasp
#

Oh, I gotcha

#

yeah that should be the only apperance of them in that level.

wary badger
#

marauder is easy

burnt moss
calm oyster
#

imagine the super shotgun had weapon mods that werent just meathook

#

weapon mod that adds a THIRD barrel for EXTRA murder capabilitie zx

inland widget
#

I still hate Archviles

calm oyster
#

any idea for an alternative weapon mod for super shotgun because i like thinking about it

inland widget
#

If you can falter them before they overwhelm you its good

#

The Doom Hunters are pretty easy imo. Just break the shield with the Plasma Rifle and cycle to SSG or Heavy Cannon with Mini Missiles if you have the Mastery

#

Haha mini missul go brrrrr

calm oyster
#

thatd just make meathook mastery useless tho

inland widget
#

Hmmge. I should try that

#

Gladiator though is monkaS

#

I used the Ballista for the first stage and a Rocket Launcher / SSG combo for the second stage

calm oyster
#

fair

#

i like thinking of possible other weapon mods for the weapons :3 even tho i havent really come up with any but i think itd be interesting to. i think i will try to come up with some

inland widget
#

Out of all the bosses though, imo he has the best introduction and theme

#

The Khan Maykr though.. ugh

dense summit
#

They really were better in 2016

#

Tyrant was such an annoying enemy

inland widget
#

I havent played 2016 so I can't comment, but from looking at the gameplay it certainly looked intense

calm oyster
#

i dont get why people hate marauders so much theyre so fun to fight

inland widget
wary badger
#

destroyer blade > arbalest

slow sigil
inland widget
#

I prefer the Destroyer blade under most circumstances but thats only really if I can get a full charge off

calm oyster
#

i mean you do you but i think everyone who hates the marauders just needs to get gud :trolled:

slow sigil
#

I mean it's a stoplight with no variation

#

You can hardly mix them with other enemues cause friendly fire triggers their shield, which can also make them canxel their attack mid-attack for since reason....

calm oyster
#

they dont really stop much for me in fact i prefer to Go around them and kill everything else before them just so i cant be distratced by any of the other cringelets

inland widget
#

Its a lot of jockeying

#

As I found it

slow sigil
#

I mean if it's JUST the marauder it is a waiting game

calm oyster
#

doom eternal players when they cant stand 1 second without a dopamine hit

slow sigil
#

I mean even without he'll still be eh

#

Also, being too good also fucks you over

inland widget
#

Meanwhile in The Ancient Gods: Yo we heard you liked the Marauder so hey fight two of them at the same time

#

tfw you can't afford the DLCs

calm oyster
#

the only really annoying enemies to me are the whiplashes

slow sigil
slow sigil
slow sigil
calm oyster
#

they used to be absolutely fucking impossible for me when i first started but now im a little better still every time i see them i get a little anxious

slow sigil
#

Cyber mancubi are fun

inland widget
#

Blood Punch and them rattle em with the Chaingun

slow sigil
#

Have BP available or else they tankie, that's not bad

inland widget
#

Cyber Mancubi are irritating to fight because of the acid pools they drop

calm oyster
#

bro just shoot them until they die 🧠

inland widget
#

4head

#

But in all seriousness yeah I just run around like an idiot anyways

burnt moss
gilded wharf
#

same reason people hate blood maykrs, they force you to play at their pace and are difficult to deal with until you clear the rest of the arena

slow sigil
#

They're even kinda designed around being in the arena

calm oyster
#

how to deal wit h enemies: Jump aroudn them

inland widget
#

How do you kill a Blood Maykr anyways?

slow sigil
gilded wharf
#

Yeah, blood maykrs are more about testing the player's aim

slow sigil
#

With pb, bal, or sticky

inland widget
#

Oh so like the Maykr drones, got it

slow sigil
calm oyster
#

r u thinking about maykr drones or the other thing because blood maykrs have shields up until their attacks

#

you cant reallyt headsho them until they're attacking

inland widget
#

Maykr drones you can instakill with the Sniper Mod for the Heavy Cannon

slow sigil
gilded wharf
#

blood maykrs have like 8000hp if you don't go for the headshot gib

slow sigil
#

Yeh cause you're supposed to go for the head megalel

gilded wharf
#

I like the loot pinata effect from headshotting drones/blood maykrs. Very satisfying when you hit the flickshot

inland widget
#

Or the quickscope

slow sigil
inland widget
#

Bonus points with Mastery for knocking out anyone with the poor guy

#

I love the Headshot explosions, so satisfying

gilded wharf
#

i'd argue they actually make fights easier just by existing

inland widget
#

Interesting

wary badger
#

if i could make a map for doom eternal, i would make it so hard even pros cant beat it.

slow sigil
#

Sounds bad

azure oriole
azure oriole
wary badger
#

where every demon is spirited

azure oriole
azure oriole
wary badger
#

and some kind of a hub

#

where they can see there high scores and deaths

#

i want it to be like horde mode but harder

#

and spirit marauders will be a common norm

#

and custom demons

azure oriole
#

Simply just buffstack every demons, smh.

wary badger
#

from the circles of hell

azure oriole
wary badger
#

the unmaykr gets a 55% boost

#

to show how fever dream the map could be

azure oriole
wary badger
#

and brawler mode exist in the map

#

and the dblade is buffed for speed and damage, and the arbalest is nerfed a little

wary badger
azure oriole
wary badger
azure oriole
wary badger
azure oriole
wary badger
slow sigil
slow sigil
#

Dblade already is nearly OP it doesnt need more megalel

wary badger
#

im making this a fever dream

#

eternal fever dream

#

because i want to.

slow sigil
#

Yeah arbalest is just a much weaker, slightly faster dblade

#

Imagine just dblading everything, and punchcancelling to reset the cooldown instantly inbetween shots lol

#

So is dblade
Also bonus damage go caco's is eh, caco's already have not too much hp
And you can combo pe's faster then swapping to arb>arb twice>swap pack to dblade

#

Also, dblade is arguably better for groups of caco's

neat sentinel
#

are the dlcs for eternal also on gamepass? it says i can pay 19.99 or gamepass, if i open it with gamepass it opens the game and in the game when i go to the dlcs it takes me to the microsoft store

vocal trail
quick grove
#

Mayker drones make any arena a lot easier

#

I am in love with the mayker drone headshot sound

naive gate
#

is there a way to get unlimited crucible ammo on ps4 ? The infinite ammo cheat does not apply for this unfortunately

bitter yarrow
neat sentinel
bitter yarrow
#

np

#

I had the same question

brittle quest
sacred dirge
jolly kernel
#

Prowlers are literally the nuDoom versions of Wraiths from Doom 3

#

a variant of the imp that can be easily killed and teleports around, though the Prowler can shoot

midnight sparrow
jolly kernel
#

actually yeah, the only similarities between Wraiths and Prowlers is that they can teleport

#

while Prowlers and Nightmare Imps have similar designs and are basically stronger variants of normal Imps

copper night
slow sigil
#

Rather "accidently changed it/bugged out and never bothered fixing it"

jolly hazel
#

gonna kms if i see a pinky demon again

sacred dirge
burnt moss
azure oriole
solar field
burnt moss
wise obsidian
#

Oh

azure oriole
#

Geoffreyplaysguitar knows music, holy shit have you heard his masterpieces? he doomifies all types of songs from diffrent games

midnight sparrow
azure oriole
#

He did skyrim theme, Bloodborne Ludwigs theme, hell, he even did kirby!

midnight sparrow
azure oriole
#

havent heard that one actually

midnight sparrow
#

It’s pretty nice

primal acorn
#

Ehe

#

I played this game in VR pain_waddle

grand depot
#

i just beat super gore nest master level for the first time

gilded wharf
#

one of my favorite levels, especially on classic mode

grand depot
#

its very good

upper sky
#

They're like one of my favourites

#

On the other hand, Cacodemons 😭

scenic egret
#

So i got the arch vile Skin from level 15 but i never got a Skin, only the previous rewards (Slayer Skin, Plasma Rifle Skin etc)

#

Do i need to keep leveling up to get the rest of It?

burnt moss
azure oriole
#

Ahh finally beat Taras Nabad

sacred dirge
#

Nat badripped

azure oriole
#

3 levels left šŸ‘€

azure oriole
#

Uh oh. No coming back to fortress until it’s over!

burnt moss
azure oriole
#

That’s true. Isn’t Nekravol or whatever actually two levels?

grand depot
#

yes

#

nekravol has 2 parts if i remember correctly, i entered part 1 with 15 extra lives and actually died in part 2 when i beat it for the first time in nightmare

spice prism
#

yo someone rate my doomguy edit in #videos

neon root
#

doomacorn

#

i need it

#

i would like to murder in fashion

gilded wharf
#

nekravol pt 1 is kicking my ass rn on ultra nightmare, so many cyber mancs

neon root
#

And with this i will be amazing

gilded wharf
#

I keep dying trying to charge up a big destroyer blade for the hallway fights

burnt moss
neon root
#

how do you get the doomacorn on this

azure oriole
#

I bought it on the Xbox store

neon root
#

i can do that but im not cuz i want it for free and i was told to get on dooms discord

#

so im confused

burnt moss
neon root
#

i was told by a ton of people too go on the doom discord

azure oriole
#

Unicorn was part of an old twitch event

neon root
#

but was never told how too claim it

#

can i still get it on twich?

#

cuz i have twitch but have not used it much

gilded wharf
neon root
#

i dont think i can

#

anyone know

azure oriole
#

Not that I could find

bitter yarrow
#

made it to urdak

#

so far have missed only one secret

neon root
#

thats fine i will just buy it when i get the chance

gilded wharf
#

urdak is my favorite level, the music and art direction are just perfect

sacred dirge
bitter yarrow
#

the mom made my costume skin is great in the cutscenes. also the icon of sin is so fucking cool

#

hey i just lost 60 bfg ammo on death. is this a bug or intentional because i really wanted to use that

gilded wharf
#

i think you lose some ammo from continuing on death

bitter yarrow
#

really? shit

azure oriole
#

Pretty sure that's false

#

Question. Just beat the campaign and dlc, did a tiny bit of horde mode, and my event progress is 49/49 (or whatever the highest rank is) is there any point in continuing to play right now or do I wait until event progress resets and start in on the master levels and single life playthrough?

gilded wharf
noble forge
azure oriole
azure oriole
#

Strange but whatever. I think they're running out of events to rerun pretty soon anyway

burnt moss
#

MC ML NM Complete!

azure oriole
#

Yeah buddy

burnt moss
#

Final arena only took like 5-10 tries. Used all supers and finished the level with almost all my ammo depleted. Tyrants near the portal didn’t stand a chance because I dbladed the heck out of one of them from a mile away.

icy ice
icy ice
burnt moss
burnt moss
azure oriole
#

Is anyone on?

#

I can’t find a battle mode match

gloomy vapor
#

waiting for chainsaw to recharge
wait, it recharges?
since it still has ammo pickups, like any other weapon, that's quite unexpected

slow sigil
#

Yeah but you kinda need chainsaw for your other weapons

sharp plaza
#

Hi, then I have a problem with Doom Eternal. I am on Steam and when I launch the game I get an error message: unable to list the graphics devices. Can you help me ?

scenic egret
#

But because i play on switch and i suck i died a couple of times on the beggining because of the cacos on the platforming section to acces the first arena because i have no awareness.

dusky cloak
#

is ancient gods part one/two part of xbox game pass?

unkempt mason
brittle quest
dusky cloak
#

I see, thanks

timber dove
#

I miss doom, we need a new one

burnt moss
midnight sparrow
burnt moss
burnt moss
#

Why

#

Hola

lofty estuary
#

so doom slayer took the bfg 9000 (the big gun) from the bfg 10000 (the even bigger gun), does that mean the even bigger gun is now the bfg 1000?

#

is the number at the end of bfg meant for size or power?

midnight sparrow
#

That’s how I always thought of it as

fallow nebula
#

TAG 1 it's good?

burnt moss
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I thought the BFG 10000 was just the 9k with a giant amplifier.

sullen depot
fallow nebula
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Better than tag2

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?

fallow nebula
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Should I buy it?

burnt moss
fallow nebula
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I'm going to see how much is

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Lol the pack isn't available

flint flame
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because

flint flame
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Hey Keqing, how’s school?

full tinsel
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do rockets still go boom?

flint flame
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I think so

sacred dirge
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No nerfed

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They splash now

jaunty vapor
full tinsel
azure oriole
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I love the rock luncher

midnight sparrow
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Ironic that it’s ā€œless likely to kill the userā€ coming from Doom 3

trail haven
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How powerful are the BFGs in the lore

midnight sparrow
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2016 explains in detail how the BFG tracers kill there targets it’s pretty brutal

burnt moss
sacred dirge
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Hahahaah noice

grave valley
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So if the crucible Can sliced through any demon and the marauder's ax is made of the same material as the crucible how does the slayer Not die instantly

magic marsh
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One is made of something that can kill anything, the other is a lot crappier

sacred pagoda
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one is the wish version

grave valley
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Uh..... Makes sense

azure oriole
bitter yarrow
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also you dont get hit but the actual marauder's axe

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you get hit by some kind of laser, when you get close they use a shotgun

compact oak
bitter yarrow
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actually if i remember

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the dude who empowered doom guy via the divinity machine was of a race more powerful than the makyrs

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since the crucible was made by the makyrs (or the sentinels i dont care that much about lore) it would be logical to assume their technology would be less powerful than the higher race's tech

patent stream
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The seraphim

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You see them at the end

sacred dirge
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Aside from the armor and his God machine strength his body is also protected by a argent field.

flint flame
flint flame
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Seeing as crucible type weapons require charging, I’d imagine the marauders axe doesn’t OHKO the slayer because it isn’t fully charged

bitter yarrow
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i thought it was argent energy

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im still going with the "your not being hit by the actual axe" theory

flint flame
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Why would the marauder, intent on killing you, not try to kill you

azure oriole
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What happens if you play eternal, but skip out on tag? Does the story still make sense?

flint flame
azure oriole
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I was just curious. Sometimes dlcs are….eh

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I’m definitely planning to play tag though

bitter yarrow
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wait am i allowed to say the f word. the rules are against swearing (i think) but also its a server for doom

azure oriole
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Vega controls all

bitter yarrow
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soooooooo if vega doesnt block it its ok?

azure oriole
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Vega will let you know right away if it’s not acceptable

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Otherwise, rip and tear

bitter yarrow
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ok thanks

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i thought that was kind of stupid but didnt want to risk getting banned

flint flame
bitter yarrow
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ik derogatory and shit

azure oriole
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Vega has a special dickhead detector

bitter yarrow
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thank you vega

grave valley
burnt moss
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Considering starting TN ML tonight

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Well this sucks

azure oriole
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Do it dude

burnt moss
azure oriole
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I’m gonna continue on to Nekravol tomorrow. Took a day off.

burnt moss
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Stuck at the pool arena for now. I wonder if using a super would make sense, but I wouldn’t do that at the expense of the coin room or Archie room

brittle quest
burnt moss
brittle quest
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It's trivial in comparison to the former two, one is enough to take out the marauders if you're struggling with them

burnt moss
burnt moss
brittle quest
brittle quest
burnt moss
burnt moss
brittle quest
midnight sparrow
brittle quest
burnt moss
brittle quest
burnt moss
brittle quest
burnt moss
brittle quest
gilded wharf
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are there consistent rules that dictate how many fodder demons can spawn in an arena? sometimes it seems like there's a point where imps and gargoyles stop spawning and you only get jerrys to chainsaw, other times it seems like they spawn endlessly until all heavy demons are slain

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i'm getting demolished by the archie arena in final sin because of all the gargoyles but it doesn't seem like it's worth it to try and clear them out