doom-eternal

[inner leaf]

and if mp is added, some official mod support would be cool too

I think thats asking for a bit too much tho

[slow sigil]

Not that much

I assume atleast some level of mod support is a tad easier to handle then making a wholly new, differently balanced game mode online

[inner leaf]

It would definitely be easier to implement, but I mean moreso that AAA companies usually don't want to add mod support to their games for whatever reason.

[slow sigil]

Cause lazyness

Plus mod support doesnt really effect game sales either, while having this shiny online mode does

[inner leaf]

yeah true

[flint flame]

That would be unplayable

I don’t see how fun it would be having spot on aiming on a small hitbox and the sheer power of meathook flings and ballista boosting

[wary badger]

arachnotrons are made from the spider masterminds genes

[flint flame]

People say “oh eternal should have classic style mp”, no it shouldn’t. You would still cry about it being hard if they did add it

[wary badger]

meaning there are offsprings of the spider mastermind

[brittle quest]

Modders did, and it's just restack sim 🥱

[azure oriole]

Quite expected

[sudden edge]

The one style of classic MP eternal should have and I see no reason why not

is CO-OP! the coop mod is so fun

I just wish it was official with better support because 2 slayers can work toghether pretty well since they can cover a very large area

Deathmatch is pretty meh in eternal tho since yeah, wayyy too annoying

[slow sigil]

More like pisseasy

[jaunty vapor]

The way I could see Multiplayer for Eternal is if they made biggish maps with meathook nodes, and everyone had a meathook to use for mobility (not an SSG, just meathook, either as a grenade or a unique gun without a way to damage, I dunno just spitballing). From there they could iterate on what they'd want to add/do.

And even then I don't think it'd be THAT unique/special, I think Battlemode is more interesting than that concept.

Also this is assuming hooks aren't fps dependent which lolololol (I know they aren't in Battlemode NOW but that took awhile)

[midnight sparrow]

The weapons would be so unbalanced for Classic MP not to mention quick swapping would have to either be outright removed or heavily nerfed

[azure oriole]

imp

[sacred dirge]

It would have but no one played it in 2016

Even though it is very fun

[azure oriole]

And not many played battlemode either.
Id should probably just axe multiplayer completely from next game, put those resources too into SP

I'm not against MP at all but why bother with something people aren't gonna play

[sacred dirge]

Absolutely

[sand ibex]

imagine if there was a doom eternal multiplayer mode where it was a 1v1 between two doom slayers

i wonder how that would work out

[azure oriole]

Wouldn't be very fun

[azure oriole]

tfw you played through UAC Atlantica facility to get the support rune but you forgot you had cheats on

so you need to replay through the entire level again without cheats

[sullen pine]

Can anyone help me with some trophies on ps4?

I have some battlemode trophies that I need to get but the battlemode servers are kinda dead

Please anyone

[tiny brook]

I'd be down

That might help in getting those sick hellforged weapon skins too

[tiny brook]

Unff

[burnt moss]

What should I play today, and on what difficulty?

[solar field]

Ninja Gaiden 3 hard mode

[burnt moss]

Um I mean in Eternal

[solar field]

Ok Mars core I'm to young to die mode for lore accurate experience

[burnt moss]

Ok I’ll see how fast I can do it

Starting now

[burnt moss]

Done

Just beat sentinel prime for good measure too

[flint flame]

Battlemode trophies are not tied to battlemode seasonal skins

You’d have to be “good” to get those

[odd gull]

Should I spend $31 on TAG

For both parts?

[tiny brook]

Yeah, but if you win in some matches, that should help with the process right?

[azure oriole]

To buy them separately would be wasteful

[odd gull]

What’s the one year pass even do

[azure oriole]

Year one pass gives both DLCs, much better deal

[flint flame]

If you queue yes, but if you’re boosting it doesn’t work. Can’t do streaks in private lobbies

[odd gull]

Aight I just bought it

[tiny brook]

Aw dammit

[burnt moss]

Now what level should I play, and what difficulty?

[tiny brook]

Mission 16, Dante Must Die mode

[burnt moss]

Huh

[solar field]

NG 3 master ninja mode

[tiny brook]

Underworld Depths, Nioh 2

[wary badger]

shield bash goodd

[burnt moss]

I do not understand the words you are all saying

I mean what Doom Eternal level and difficulty should I play next

[solar field]

Mission 2-3 professional mode

[burnt moss]

What’s professional mode?

[solar field]

It's a RE4 refrence

[burnt moss]

Oh

[azure oriole]

All of them on ultra nightmare

[icy ice]

Time to attempt The Holt...again lol

[azure oriole]

Good luck

[icy ice]

Welp tonight was not my night lol

Nothing like firing 3 lock-on bursts at a possessed hell knight and it still not die

I'm trying to do a run or 2 in my NM save file where I don't die

[azure oriole]

Hello #doom-eternal

[wild latch]

Howdy.

[wild latch]

Just wanted to ask for the ps4 players, How many gigabytes space do I need to download TAG part 1 and 2?

[azure oriole]

okay can for example @brittle quest @strange gale or someone else confirm this:
SSG punchswap fast state can get broken?
Was wondering why I can't do Slobs from SSG punchswap anymore sometimes and realized SSG didn't get fast state from punchswap

the bringup and firing was regular after punchswap

for example today it worked fine at first, then when I started WS ML over from the beginning it didn't work

[azure oriole]

I'll try diagnose it a little more myself too

[brittle quest]

It's happening consistently for me, weird

Probably something related to the frame drop that happens when at the start of WS, or something related to close range. Might also be a consistent misinput 🥴

[azure oriole]

clips:

https://youtu.be/_ZMnzyFWGWA
https://youtu.be/fbe-5KEclaY

my timing isn't super consistent but you can easily tell the difference in bringup anyway

also I closed the game in between and on first try fast state was still broken but level reaload fixed it 😕

@brittle quest

[brittle quest]

I can't get mine as broken as yours.

[brittle quest]

Also this is a consistent misinput, I was testing this out by SSG-SLOBing the tyrant but I think it's more of a LOB issue than a SSG issue. Any steps to recreate it?

Wait, I found it out

msc from a slow state into ssg brings it into that state

[azure oriole]

really?

interesting

and yeah even in the working clip my inputs aren't consistent but even with missed inputs the fast state is still very obvious

[brittle quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/941927376504385596/1030770510902075484/8mb.video-B2S-XDZ7GxQU.mp4

[azure oriole]

versús the broken clip where the fast state is obviously missing

[brittle quest]

On afterthought this was pretty obvious, since I've seen the ssg do the "slow" transition quite a bit after I msc into it from rl/bal but I've never really pswapped with it from a distance, and close range pswaps automatically give the ssg a fast state; probably why it took so long to find out.

[azure oriole]

I'm still noit sure why the ssg might start in the slow state even after game quit, but indeed msc from fast state fixes it:
https://youtu.be/fBE1-KCwIvQ

(btw all above clips are unlisted so they aren't generating me any views)

[brittle quest]

Really don't understand this, you're getting slow states from thin air 😵‍💫

[azure oriole]

yeh exactly

and when that happens not even close range pswap fixes it

as you can see on my attempt of SSG pswap SLOBS in the broken clip

the punch connects on the tyrant but SSG bringup is still slow.
So slow in fact that on first attempt the SSG doesn't even fire until a delay (I hold down fire all the time)

[brittle quest]

Could you do it again but after killing the imps and and also dashing right after you melee the tyrant? Because your current execution also leaves the possibility of the RL bugging out and not locking on due to the tyrant's center of mass not being on your crosshair.

[azure oriole]

sure but I've had this happen a few times and if I try a pb rl slob slob it works as usual

anyway this already helps in the sense that at least fast state msc into ssg fixes it

[wild latch]

.

[azure oriole]

I could have caused this in the first place by messing up a msc from rocket launcher into ssg

[slow sigil]

Sizes are already included ingame

[brittle quest]

None, they're already predowloaded.

[slow sigil]

If you have the game downloaded, you have the dlcs downloaded

[wild latch]

ur kidding.

[slow sigil]

We aint

[brittle quest]

Yes I am, they're 100 gigs each!

[azure oriole]

nah that's why the game is around 90 gigs

When you buy the DLCs you just get the right to access them

nothing is downloaded

[brittle quest]

Seems a bit unlikely, since it happens also when you reload the level, and also after you punch the air.

[slow sigil]

Without them the game would have been like what, 56?

[azure oriole]

yeah true

unless the slow state somehow persists unless you fix it with a fast state msc

or if the game decides to fix it on reload and quit

I could open a ticket about this but.... yeah

[azure oriole]

far as I recall at release Eternal was around 40 GB

or 50

[brittle quest]

I'd assume that the game resets it every time you reload, but the punching the air thing is still kinda iffy.

[brittle quest]

A ticket about this seems a bit niche, breaking a tech that's already pretty glitch-like

[azure oriole]

yeah and the fix would probably remove punchswaps completely, lol

[brittle quest]

You're reloading your gun in the window you're punching and abusing melee to incite fast states. :P

[slow sigil]

You're just swapping your hands for guns lol

[azure oriole]

okay more testing:

• the broken pswap is some mega slow state that only corrects with a fast state msc
• there's a regular state that goes into fast state with close range pswap or for example pb ssg -> pswaps
• fast state is the fastest possible pswaps (that can also prime a slob)

[burnt moss]

MSC?

[wary badger]

doom guy hasnt had a good shower in decades

[azure oriole]

I came up with the idea for a small update I would like to see.
In photo mode, the game automatically moves the player character a different direction when they use a pose regardless of the way they were facing before.
I would like to see an option in the photo mode menu to manually turn the slayers direction when using said poses.

[vestal oracle]

ong

if he takes off the whole praetor suit theres gonna be another world catastrophe

[shut marsh]

What is better doomblade or crucible

[azure oriole]

doom eternal works well even with an old PC?

[round rivet]

sup everyone

[patent stream]

Depends how old we talking. And steam will show you the minimum specs to run it

[round rivet]

can someone tell me how to see what my username and password for bethesda.net ?

[patent stream]

Also depends what your definition of works well means

[azure oriole]

Full HD, 60 FPS

[round rivet]

anyone??

ah found it

[azure oriole]

Modswap cancel

[wary badger]

how to mod swap cancel

[round rivet]

it wont let me sign in

[azure oriole]

Hit the modswap button after firing and immediately swap to another weapon

[wary badger]

Mmmm okay thx

[azure oriole]

It mainly speeds up slower swaps like canceling the delay after firing lock on

But if you wanted you could for example do pb bal cycles faster by modswap canceling from the ballista to pb

[round rivet]

got it

[brittle quest]

Apologies for the intrusion but MSCing from to a fast state weapon would be a bit redundant, the best example to give would be MSCing from to slow state weapons.

[brittle quest]

That's what it seemed like in your first video demonstrating the glitch, it's a bit weird this enitire interaction exists at all.

[azure oriole]

Bal isn't fast state though is it?

Even after pb

I mean the swap to bal is fast but swap from bal back to pb isn't unless you land the frame perfect timing

[brittle quest]

It isn't, I butchered what I meant to write.

But as general, mscing from bal is pretty much as fast as is just swapping from bal from my experience. And doing a msc bal pb combo would just be unecessarily hurting your fingers.

[azure oriole]

Yeh the practical benefit is minimal so not a good example

[azure oriole]

I would like to see a photo mode that isn't beta and works properly

[azure oriole]

Baal 💀

I haven't been able to use it once

[azure oriole]

I couldn't agree more

photo mode's are just ❤️ in my heart

[wary badger]

is there any way to change the saturation of colors in doom eternal without hdr

[azure oriole]

Are you on pc?

[wary badger]

yes

[azure oriole]

Nvidia or AMD graphics card?

[wary badger]

amd

[azure oriole]

You can set custom color profile in the game profile for doom eternal in radeon software.
Just enable custom color and adjust saturation

[wary badger]

Mmmm thanks i will try it tomorrow

[pine yoke]

loving the ssg ballista combo

what more could I try?

[slow sigil]

Pb ssg/rl/bal

Punchswaps (punch, press weapon hotkey, shoot, repeat)

[azure oriole]

like luci said learn the pb (precision bolt) quickswaps next, pb ssg, pb bal, pb rocket (pb sticky)
They are much faster and do more damage

[azure oriole]

baal 💀

[pine yoke]

pb is actually excellent if you aim alright

quickly becoming a favourite

[deft charm]

Did they ever add classic and master levels for the rest of the levels

[alpine plaza]

hell on earth master level

🤤

[vestal oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-kid-doom-doom-eternal-doom-slayer-gif-26144019

卐

[sacred dirge]

[azure oriole]

you know what I mean. do you?

[brittle quest]

[timid moat]

Hello guys, I have a question:
What are the ""sets"" unlockable that do not rely on any event?

As an example you can get all golden weapons, armor and podium on your own.

Are there any other versions available? Like all Makyr weapons, armor, podium or Chrome?

Is there an updated list somewhere?

[brittle quest]

There's the weapon mastery skins, Doom 1 guy skin and Praetor/Sentinel skin from the Fortress of Doom, all the Master Level mastery skins, all the UN skins for each campaign (Gold, Aurum, Skullface), some seperate skins packs like Cosplay Slayer and Doomicorn that can be purchased, and that's it.

[flint flame]

You guys aim with pb?

[flint flame]

Projecting, also not funny

[vestal oracle]

thanks

[flint flame]

Let alone this

[vestal oracle]

thanks

[burnt moss]

You guys aim?

[jolly kernel]

the Gladiator kicked my ass, lost one life while fighting him

[burnt moss]

Even on ITYTD he can be difficult

[solar field]

You use guns?

[burnt moss]

You guys fight the demons?

[solar field]

You guys see demons?

[jolly kernel]

I like his design though. a modernized classic Baron/Hell Knight design

[sacred dirge]

FA

[azure oriole]

No I just throw bullets in the general direction of enemies

[tiny brook]

Since some mega events have previous sets coming back, should I wait out the Cultist Slayer skin, or just buy it from the store?

[azure oriole]

P sure that event has been rerun already so buy if you absolutely want it

Also fairly safe to assume any series that can be bought won't be re-rerun

[azure oriole]

Fair Always <--

[viral hemlock]

Does doom eternal for ps4 exist, and if it does, does it support mouse and keyboard and have a tolerable fps?

My pc sux too much ass

[vestal oracle]

doesnt support mouse and keyboard i think so but it does exist

[viral hemlock]

Well then that sucks

Does the xbox support m&k or is it in the same train

[vestal oracle]

no idea but i think any console supports m&k

i don't think*

[viral hemlock]

Me about to murder the console port's developers
🤸‍♂️

🛏️🏌️‍♀️

Well then looks like no doom eternal for me

At least at a decent fps and no crashes

Or usable controls

[flint flame]

Doom Pacifist Mode

[burnt moss]

Steam deck would be a good option for you

[viral hemlock]

The whole point of me wanting to use m&k on console is to not invest in any new hardware

[full sequoia]

Hey all. I've come back to Eternal after a several month break, and simple question: Is there a way to access Master Levels without loading up a Campaign save and going to the Fortress of DOOM? I could have sworn there was a way from the game's menus, but can't seem to find it and figure I'm just being blind. I'm playing on Xbox Series X, though I doubt that'll make a difference here.

[flint flame]

You can select a master level through the mission select

[flint flame]

Instead of clicking mission select, click on master level

[viral hemlock]

What is you guys experience with controller beside shitty switching?

[full sequoia]

Thanks, I'll check that out.

[sacred dirge]

Depends on your personal skill. Not the object you're using that is going to determine any sort of skill

[viral hemlock]

I am very used to playing FPS games with keyboard, so i think i will have to take a long while to get used to controller

[sacred dirge]

Example being if your switching sucks it's because you suck at switching. Is it better on kbm. Sure. But I can quick switch with the best of them

[lapis lance]

Just beat my first Master Level, on Ultra Violence.
I was expecting a couple more, stronger demons, but not... whatever that was.
Ain't no way I'm even trying extra life mode, especially on Nightmare.

[sacred dirge]

It'll take time. Especially if you're used to it. I can't play kbm anymore at this point

For the same reason as you

[azure oriole]

what level was it? I’ve been trying to get super gore nest down

[lapis lance]

This one. Took me around... an hour? And thirty minutes? Can't tell, I just know it was longer than I expected.

Also fuck the ||double marauders fight. When I finally managed to kill one, the other one bugged out, and was stuck in defense mode. Couldn't damage him no matter what I tried.||

[vague mica]

Man, doom is so cool, I love doom

[spice prism]

i just got doom 2016 any tips

[vague mica]

Just felt like saying that, thats all

[vague mica]

About what specifically

[spice prism]

in general

[vague mica]

Never stop moving ever

Grenade launcher > Burst

[spice prism]

k

[vague mica]

Get the secrets, trust me

[spice prism]

why

[vague mica]

Wdym why? They give you stuff, useful stuff

[spice prism]

they do?

[vague mica]

Weapon points, weapon mods, preator suit points, sometimes you find weapons one level early

[spice prism]

oh cool

[vague mica]

I mean that's kind of the whole point of a secret lol

Anyways, you're gonna love doom, doom is great, I'm sorry I don't know why I suddenly feel like saying this

[spice prism]

ok

me see and go play rn

[vague mica]

What's your favorite game?

[spice prism]

hmmmm

[vague mica]

Ok, go rip and tear

[spice prism]

dunno

[vague mica]

I could give alot more tips but I'm pretty tired rn and general is too wide a spectrum tbh, but have fun, I don't even know who you are but love you bro

[spice prism]

what you play on

[vague mica]

Xbox one

[spice prism]

omg

samee

[vague mica]

Niiice

[spice prism]

what’s your username

[vague mica]

I'm actually a little upset though, as I havnt been able to play doom or doom eternal properly in the slightest for months, long story

[vague mica]

Swervingnest89

[spice prism]

why(just added you my user is zdr3dz)

[vague mica]

Long story short my little brother broke my controller

[spice prism]

oh damn

[vague mica]

It's all good though, he's cool, it was an accident

[spice prism]

oh ok are you getting a new one or fixed one?

[vague mica]

New one, my old one feels like a veteran now, been with me since 2013, I beat ultra nightmare with it, it feels like memory now

Or something, idk how to describe it

[spice prism]

damn ik the feeling

[vague mica]

Sentimental maybe?

[spice prism]

ye

[vague mica]

Ok anyways, it was nice meeting you

Nice bio hehe (on Xbox I mean)

[spice prism]

yeah it was nice meeting you too

gotta change it to 3

[vague mica]

But you've got like 400 on Xbox lol

[spice prism]

all from group posts

[vague mica]

I don't play online games much at all so my only friends are from waaay back

[spice prism]

what’s my bio on xbox?

[vague mica]

Pp

[spice prism]

oh i put that long ago

it’s a memory that’s why i don’t change it

[vague mica]

Damn just like my controller

[spice prism]

fr

this ugly ass Olivia pierce is such a drag

[vague mica]

Lmao

What level u on btw?

[spice prism]

beginning of 2

[vague mica]

Nice nice

U got any experience with doom other than 2016?

[spice prism]

lil but my cousin used to play doom with me

it’s not the same anymore

he’s off to the marines

😕

holy shit

i just got the chainsaw i love it

[vague mica]

Man that's kinda sad, u still keep in touch?

[spice prism]

yeah

[vague mica]

Yeah chainsaw is cool, don't be stupid with it though lol

[spice prism]

wdym stupid

[vague mica]

Oh i just mean spam for no reason, I said stupid in a playful way

[spice prism]

ah ok

i gtg cya man nice meeting you

see you soon

[vague mica]

K man see you too

Idk why I'm happy right now, I'm just appreciating stuff I love, like ultrakill, isaac and jojo, I don't know I have this weird feeling of acceptance I can't quite put my finger on

I've never done this before and I'm usually quite a pessimistic person

[solar field]

That's really goodman

[vague mica]

Man I love breaking bad a bcs

[solar field]

Same

[vague mica]

I'm on s2 of bcs and finished breaking bad

Anyways one last time, I really love doom

In the most genuine and nice way possible, I wish you all a good day

[solar field]

Agreed good sir:) nice to meet a fellow niceman:]

[cloud anvil]

god why the fuck don't Master Levels have saving

[sacred dirge]

[burnt moss]

Because fuck you and your peace of mind that’s why

[flint flame]

[wary badger]

i now have 443.1 hours in doom eternal and i still get jumpscared by cacodemons

[viral hemlock]

Actually i just picked up doom eternal for ps4 and the controls arent so bad

[wary badger]

adapt

and survive

[viral hemlock]

Way better than constant 15 fps and crash agony

[viral hemlock]

Actually they're cute pets once you get used to them, but when i feed them with explosive grenades they seem to have allergic reactions, and eye petting doesnt seem to help

[alpine plaza]

youll get used to it

[wary badger]

they cant poop so they puke

[alpine plaza]

at the beggining it was tough for me

[wary badger]

in classic doom they had 2 holes on their backs it might be for using gases to fly and go down

[azure oriole]

why does the seraphim fight just suck so much balls

[flint flame]

It’s the best boss wdym?

It encapsulates everything you’ve learned to use, it tests your ability to apply these teachings, and doesn’t feel like a massive step down from the icon of sin

[azure oriole]

I do not like spirits

or blood maykrs

[waxen field]

Spirits are great cause you can’t just cryo then delete

[azure oriole]

but alas, I just beat the motherfucker

[azure oriole]

I didn’t mean it as in “it literally sucks” he was just really annoying me at parts

[strange gale]

oh nyooo

[sacred dirge]

It was used to keep the model up

[tepid wasp]

prolly bc Samuel is trying to get back at you for not carefully removing the filters back in that one level, and shooting a hole in the surface of mars

[river stirrup]

doing it on nightmare made me wanna kms

[azure oriole]

understandable

[river stirrup]

i died way too many times it was kinda a shitty boss battle to me

not as bad as the dark lord but its up there

[azure oriole]

I still have yet to get to him

from what I hear he’s just a beefy marauder

[river stirrup]

it gave me a headache and i had to walk away

on lower difficulties its probably fine but i punish myself and only play nightmare

did it eventually

i loved immora though and TAG2 was great, i liked it better than TAG1 probably but the boss fight did suck

[azure oriole]

I’ve been playing on ultra-violenve

just played like an hour and a half of horde, and my eyes hurt like hell

[river stirrup]

horde does make you better at the game, i still cant beat horde mode fully on nightmare without skipping the last bonus round because fuuuuck

[azure oriole]

I made it to the last round of stage 2

then spirit pain elemental fucked me

also sentinel hammer makes marauders wayyyy to easy

[river stirrup]

i save a bonus multiplier for that dude, genuinely its so bad

the spirit pain elemental is the worst

[azure oriole]

yeah I probably should’ve

but I actually fucking love horde mode, that was some of the most fun I’ve had in the game

might try nightmare on horde for a while before I try nightmare campaign

because I really do want to get ultra-nightmare in the campaign done, not too interested in the ancient gods one tho cause it kinda sucks

also I refuse to do seraphim on ultra-nightmare

[brittle quest]

@strange gale Greetings, would you have any reliable strats for the double pos. pinky corridor in URE? It's a consistent chokepoint on any of my shieldless UN runs.

[azure oriole]

that to me seems like the hardest part of the tag1 UN run

[river stirrup]

I’d love to do UN anything but man I just can’t

I can’t endure a 6 hour campaign without slipping up once the dlcs are too hard I won’t even try it’s just idk

I’ve gotten a few levels in on the main campaign

[azure oriole]

Do TAG 2 first, it's the easier dlc and most manageable

I mean if you want, it's not like UN is mandatory

Quite the opposite

Also you could start with super gore nest master level.
Sure it's harder than anything in tag 2 but it's also just one level so not too bad to redo

master level sgn is hell

I cannot beat it

[azure oriole]

Try Classic mode, I'm sure you'd enjoy it.

Hello fellow slayers I have just joined

Don't mind the pfp

[azure oriole]

no

[azure oriole]

I am minding the pfp

[azure oriole]

Wait, why?

no

[azure oriole]

Alright then

I will play more horde mode tomorrow but it is 1 am

I did UNs in this order:

• SGN ml
• TAG 2
• MC ml
• TN ml
• TAG 1
• campaign
• WS ml

I may also try battlemode for the first time

is battlemode any good rn?

[azure oriole]

Why SGN ML first if I can ask?

just seems funny tbh

[azure oriole]

Easiest of the new master levels and just one level

Understandable.

I'm p sure I started UN anything on tag 2 though

But probably started trying a little too early

[azure oriole]

I'm not saying this is some optimal order but rather to show how low down the list campaign was

[azure oriole]

If you can find a match against a same level opponent, sure

so probably not gonna happen I’m guessing

[azure oriole]

ITS AN EASIER LEVEL??

[azure oriole]

Easier than mc, tn and ws master levels imo

gahdamn

Okay mars core is pretty tied but sgn is way shorter

[river stirrup]

i beat it on nightmare but fuck that last arena was so shit

i really want gold combat shotgun though

[azure oriole]

Also I'll gladly redo world spear ml on UN but taras nabad not so much

Taras has too many arduous fights in closed spaces (with scuffed geo)

[brittle quest]

mars core > URE

[azure oriole]

Lol

[brittle quest]

The final fight will automatically put you to sleep because ammo is scarce and enemies aren't, wait for chainsaw 🥱

[azure oriole]

That's true

[azure oriole]

Taras Nabad ML is just... Too long, sometime too hard, it just feels like it will never ends so I understand

[brittle quest]

URE manages to enagage you without feeling too exorbitantly hard, it's the perfect level of difficulty,

[azure oriole]

I actually brought that up in the mars core video, chainsaw cooldown should be shorter

[brittle quest]

This as well, MC, TN, WS all feel a bit too long in terms of quality fights

WS and TN are a bit tolerable, but MC just goes overboard.

[azure oriole]

goodmorning #doom-eternal

You consume ammo at a certain rate, not really a way around that especially as meta is so stale

[brittle quest]

The best solution is to rework the chainsaw/ammo system to be based more around player interaction than just a static cooldown

I'd love if the chainsaw had a certain percentage recharged after you gk heavies, and had half of it recharged after super heavy kills

[azure oriole]

That yeah or ofc increase ammo count or the amount of ammo given by a single chainsaw.
The numbers were balanced for campaign and they do not work for master levels really anymore

[brittle quest]

Absolutely, it's horrific how little ammo you get in MLs if you want to play fast.

[azure oriole]

Yep

I cant sleep

Or alternatively master levels should have enough regenerating ammo pickups to compliment chainsawing

I wanna play more horde mode, I have an addiction

[brittle quest]

Chainsawing as general seems to be a bit of an oversight, it was designed for DE before quickswapping was a thing.

It seems out of place now, plain and simple. I'd be happy if hammer replaced it forever.

[azure oriole]

I really wish I didn’t play on console, I wanna quickswap inbetween 3 weapons too 😔

[azure oriole]

Yeah the hammer is so much better.
Faster so works better mid combat and the ammo return is enough

[brittle quest]

3 weapon quickswapping is kinda niche, learning PB combos is enough along with learning to move fast. That should be one's main aim in this game. To perfect movement.

[azure oriole]

if you make hammer replace chainsaw you gotta fix how it works with marauders because you can just cheese the hell outta them with the hammer

[brittle quest]

I'd love if the hammer was reduced from a super weapon by removing the stun and adding crucible functionality: You can only stun one demon, but killing that demon gives you full ammo and 50 armor/health depending on equipment.

[brittle quest]

You gotta fix marauders first

[azure oriole]

what I was thinking is maybe you could have the hammer have a status effect thing and if you kill one of those effected enemies it could drop ammo and health

[brittle quest]

That'd be fine as well, but still a bit unbalanced.

Hammer now is 🥴

[azure oriole]

I think it could give resources as is (because the amount is determined by number of enemies hit by the aoe) but the stun could be removed or shortened yeah.
Or only an enemy you hit directly is stunned

[brittle quest]

The devs abandoned the game just as it's full potential was being realised.

[azure oriole]

ima get back on doom I have a fucking problem

[azure oriole]

Yeah ws ml was a glimpse of a new combat loop and balancing around it.
But you have to draw the line somewhere, where you stop working on old game and focus on new game.
Eternal got updates for 1.5 years after release still.

[slow sigil]

I still wished they just put 1, very maybe 2 guys, just to work on MLs

[fallen mango]

I had a dream there was a Horde Mode 2.0, it was 30 waves, each wave having its own leaderboard but based on time, thirty waves on cultist base, all three of its arena ares, at 12 and 24 there was a parkour section, then round 30 had many demons along with permanent famine

[valid wren]

how do you even dream that

[violet spire]

lol

[quasi axle]

Should I change my name

[slow sigil]

Yes

I think ruby would br a great name for you

[shut marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-twerk-gif-25604234

[digital kindle]

[mystic viper]

[burnt moss]

You can if you bind weapons to Dpad and joystick.

[bold shell]

I missed the chaingun in || super gore nest || is there q way to get it again?

[azure oriole]

Yes, via going back through missions in the fortress of doom.

If I'm correct, If you can do it while still in campaign. without having to complete the game

[bold shell]

Damn now I have to play my least favourite mission again

[sudden edge]

I think itll be at the start of ARC complex

[slow sigil]

how could SGN be your least favourite mission

[sudden edge]

and also yeah SGN is great

[bold shell]

It has some really good parts and really annoying parts

[solar field]

All my homies hate sgn

I have a really good reason to tho

[slow sigil]

SGN, great basegame level, best ML

[solar field]

To each there own:)

[slow sigil]

probs not /s

[solar field]

I just really dislike it cause the master level UN took me over a month of practice and careful planning only for my game to crash on the final cuscene TWICE

Tho I know everything about the level tho:)

[slow sigil]

[solar field]

?

[slow sigil]

i wanted to do just a normal kek but fucked up

[solar field]

Oh sorry:)

[slow sigil]

cause i forgot kek was kekz the former mod

[solar field]

Well nice talk:)

Have a good day sir

[azure oriole]

Yes

[solar field]

Great base game level (in my opinion) worst ML

[azure oriole]

SGN is perfect length for a master level

Fights are challenging but no cheap bs (much) and not too drawn out

[bold shell]

Also the gate with all 3 keys required has a tendency to bug out and make you restart the mission

[azure oriole]

Not discrediting either but have never had to restart sgn ml or had it crash even p sure

And eternal used to be (knocks on wood) the most crash prone game I play

For comparison I get consistent soft locks in ws ml and had it crash constantly too

The part where the dog should go to the fountain before the hammer arena almost never works on first try

[sacred dirge]

Never had that issue either

[azure oriole]

Hm

[strange gale]

real and factual

[azure oriole]

do any of you scale?

[azure oriole]

It used to work for a while but somehow got broken again.
Might be due to the save slot even.

[solar field]

Yeah

[cosmic vault]

[edgy aspen]

[flint flame]

160 (American) pounds.

[ruby cliff]

There’s a thought that’s been on my mind.
Would the Doom Slayer now be normal Doomguy again?
The source of his powers was the Dark Lord, and now he’s dead.

[nimble lion]

Would you still be interested

[midnight sparrow]

More or less I guess so? Not to worries though considering he’s still strong without his powers plus he still has the Praetor Suit so he doesn’t really need those powers anyway

[azure oriole]

The ending of tag 2 strongly suggests slayer reverts back to being "just" doom guy again

[river stirrup]

Didn’t they say the next doom game would be slower and you’d hit harder, would make sense if you’re just a normal doom guy again

[slow sigil]

i mean what where "doomguy's powers" exactly anyways

most things where either the suit, or gameplay

[ruby cliff]

He had powers alright.
He could absorb the energy of demons and had superhuman strength.

They said he killed the one thing in 2016 with his bare hands.

[slow sigil]

absorbing demons is part of the preator suit

[ruby cliff]

The strength isn’t though.

[bold shell]

Yes and no

At this point he's already absorbed the strength and power of the demons + argent energy + he still has the preator suit

[flint flame]

He killed it with his bare hands, it’s not like he instantly killed it

[sacred dirge]

Yeah just doom guy is still a guy that decimated hell regularly so just doom guy again isn't a bad thing

[solar field]

And there was the BFG 10000 incident that he still has access to

[sacred dirge]

He ran as fast as a car. Abnormal dexterity and just will power. Other than the car thing he was basically punisher but instead of gangsters it was demons

[slow sigil]

Most of those are just doomguy and not really slayer's powers

[sacred dirge]

Exactly

What i was talking about

[solar field]

He is really just a determined slightly buffed guy

[sacred dirge]

Good way to put it.

[solar field]

Give him the predator suit and the guns from the games and he is still pretty strong

[vestal oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/mother-fat-yo-mama-explode-explosion-gif-22515407

[solar field]

HEY PAUL!
AHHHHHHH!

[vestal oracle]

oopsies

[solar field]

Don't worry I will send the missiles myself:)

[vestal oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-caracal-there-is-a-pipebomb-in-your-mailbox-gif-25732330

[solar field]

Go ahead take a break relax:)

I have 2 pipe bombs unironocaly

[flint flame]

Mfw memes in eternal chat

[solar field]

Still technically active

[solar field]

Have you seen general these day?

[flint flame]

My brother in Christ, it’s a rule

[flint flame]

Also I’m not gonna pretend this didn’t happen

[solar field]

I know I use it as a copy pasta

[solar field]

We play wolfenstne here

[vestal oracle]

uhh. no

https://tenor.com/view/love-gif-25544547

[midnight sparrow]

What? The BFG10k is only in Eternal it’s the BFG 9000 he has access to

[granite elk]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-doom-eternal-gif-26362412

[vestal oracle]

BFG 10K great song

[solar field]

But this is after eternal

[vestal oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-kid-doom-doom-eternal-doom-slayer-gif-26144019

[sacred dirge]

He's just Hindu

[midnight sparrow]

He still only has the BFG 9000, the one he got in Eternal (and the one he has in The Ancient Gods) only served as a power source for the BFG 10k

[vestal oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-archvile-gif-19817628

[solar field]

But he can use the bfg 10000 still right?

[vestal oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/doomslayer-doom-eternal-glory-kill-gif-16808618

[midnight sparrow]

If your talking about the beam that tore a hole in Mars then no he cannot

It’s just a standard BFG

He just has a regular BFG nothing to special

[solar field]

Ehat happens to it?

Did it get destroyed?

[midnight sparrow]

No the BFG 10k is just useless now as it’s power source (The BFG 9000) was taken by Doomguy

[solar field]

Oooooh ok thx:)

[azure oriole]

They have done this before iirc

[solar field]

We pretend that didn't happen either

[quartz dust]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[icy ice]

Just beat The Holt without dying in NM

Now it's time to do it again in UN

[solar field]

: )

[azure oriole]

just beat world spear, I very much like escalation encounters

[icy ice]

Aaaand I died at the 4th phase. That's literally the hardest part of the level 😒

Everything else was fine though.

[azure oriole]

I have reached immora, it is time to game

[azure oriole]

I am at the dark lord

[tiny brook]

So was the 10k just an amplifier for the 9k, or does the 9k actually contain that much output since it's used as a power source?

[midnight sparrow]

I'm gonna guess the device that was securing the BFG 9000 in place was amplifying it's shots

[tiny brook]

Hella efficient energy conversion

[azure oriole]

fighting dark lord, and may I ask, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GUY

[burnt moss]

I want there to be a Titan that knocks the BFG round back at you

[burnt moss]

A vampire

[midnight sparrow]

A fat marauder

[azure oriole]

nah he more than a fat marauder bro

big long cutscene

[midnight sparrow]

Naw he’s really just a glorified marauder

[azure oriole]

but he so strong

[midnight sparrow]

glorified tedious marauder

has the shield move
green eye flash
dashes
and dogs

100% a marauder

[azure oriole]

I know he works like a marauder but he’s so much stronger

like why tf can he summon a hellknight

[waxen field]

Wrong rotation

[midnight sparrow]

He summons super heavies in his final phase

[azure oriole]

you’re kidding.

[midnight sparrow]

no

[azure oriole]

oh my fucking god this is going to be hell

[midnight sparrow]

Keep your Sentinel Hammer charges up and you should be fine

[azure oriole]

but I need skin, so I shall do it

[azure oriole]

when should I use the charges? to extend dps, or to kill the summons?

[midnight sparrow]

Use it when the super heavies spawn when you get to the final phase, for everything else when the Dark Lords eyes flash green strike him with either the SSG or Ballista then use hammer. Fire off grenades while either using SSG Ballista or Full-Auto shotgun

thats what I did anyway

[azure oriole]

gotcha

[strange gale]

you can get the charge back so fast that it just makes sense to hammer in both cases

[azure oriole]

yeah I might glory kill the zombies around me after dps before focusing on anything else

god I really don’t like how he heals

[sacred dirge]

Nah it can be either way or with dots.

It varies temple to temple. I've seen different styles to the ones I've been to

[azure oriole]

IN FINAL PHASE BABEEE

[waxen field]

Ah I think it was the other angle that was used by WW2 Germany regardless it’s sad to see how a meaning of a symbol can be hijacked and ruined.

[sacred dirge]

It's very informal the times I've seen it. Sometimes just drawn on the ground at a wedding for good luck

[waxen field]

Drawn recently or as in a relic?

[azure oriole]

GOT THE MOTHERFUCKER

[sacred dirge]

Recently. Just as a small little decoration you'll notice in with the rest

[azure oriole]

GGS BABYYY

honestly fucking loved that boss

[burnt moss]

Sorry I’m late, but if you don’t kill the Hellknight the heavies don’t spawn

[azure oriole]

Yeah I’d rather kill the hellknight tho

One less thing to deal with, plus I can just glorykill my way to another hammer

really enjoyed that boss, probably my favorite

[icy ice]

Interesting you say that because it's definitely a lot of people's least favorite boss

Imo, Samur makyr is the best because it's not just a bullet sponge you have to memorize, though very very frustrating towards the end.

[flint flame]

Yeah I’d say Samur is my favorite too

[azure oriole]

Samur was my least favorite, in all complete honesty fuck that guy

[icy ice]

IoS is a good middle ground because while it's just a tyrant with like 6 super mushrooms, the support demons makes it feel like a good battle

[icy ice]

I said the same thing when I died at the 4th phase in my UN run today

[azure oriole]

I just liked dark lord because the loop felt very satisfying to get down and I could constantly see myself improving

however with samur I didn’t feel like I was learning anything I just had to guess what to do

by far my least favorite part was the spirit pain elemental and dreadknight

[icy ice]

That part is easy with two bfg shots

[azure oriole]

I did not have two bfg shots

[icy ice]

It's the phase before it that's actual fuckery lmao

[azure oriole]

honestly I wanna try and nightmare every campaign, but I might skip tac1 purely because of samur

I’m not kidding, he is genuinely one of my least favorite bosses ever

[icy ice]

You gotta play defensively with that boss. The eyeballs spawn again if you kill both of them but not if one of them is dead.

[solar field]

I like the gladiator tbh

He's chill like that:) we homies

[icy ice]

And the caco part is a timed sequence. Just keep their tummies full lmao

[azure oriole]

I liked the gladiator because of the music, besides that it felt pretty average to me

funnily enough I got back into doom at the start of this week because me and this girl I like were talking about it

[icy ice]

Yea the gladiator music and the doom hunter music is badass for the boss battles

[azure oriole]

and now I’ve beaten everything on ultra-violence, where previously I couldn’t beat final sin on hurt me plenty

[icy ice]

Awww ripping and tearing together

[azure oriole]

possibly, I still need to beat main campaign on ultra-nightmare tho

I want gold skin

first thing I’m probably gonna do tho is master level sgn on ultra-violence

[icy ice]

Same. Fuck cultist base lol

[azure oriole]

trueee

I also need to get a new controller because I was fighting dark lord with the worst fucking stick-drift known to man

[icy ice]

Master levels will expose any fundamentals and mechanics you don't have locked down

[azure oriole]

literally as soon as I turn right it sends me twice as hard to the left

its impossible to deal with now so I’m checking to see if my brother has any spare one’s

[icy ice]

I assume this is an Xbox controller you're dealing with?

[azure oriole]

nope, playstation

[icy ice]

Well that's a surprise

Usually stick drift is associated with Xbox controllers but I guess any one can experience it

[azure oriole]

yeah they don’t get stick drift often and its usually not that major

but I’ve been using this thing for 2 years now so I guess its about its time to rest

[spare marsh]

Any controller can experience them since the big three all order from the same company, and they all use the same style of analog measurement

[azure oriole]

yeah except switch has it so much worse

it goes it terms of worst to best

1. nintendo
2. xbox
3. playstation

[solar field]

So true

[icy ice]

Doom Eternal aged my controller 2 years in 6 months lmao

[azure oriole]

playstation puts a lot of care into their controllers

[azure oriole]

makes sense, I actually didn’t have any problems until the beginning of tac1 lmao

it was at the end of tac2 that it just got unbearable

I blame samur

I’m scared of Eternal

why’s that

[icy ice]

If you think you're scared, imagine how every demon in the game feels

I wish I could have played this game when it first came out

[azure oriole]

😆

I’m nervous about the bosses. They took me forever in 2016.

[icy ice]

In the base campaign, I think doom 2016 will have prepared you well for the bosses you will encounter in eternal

Eternal is definitely an adjustment from 2016 though

[azure oriole]

I thought I was never going to beat that damn Spider Mastermind lol

[icy ice]

Do you know the bfg trick?

[azure oriole]

I’ve heard. Wasn’t it a glitch or something?

[icy ice]

Yea hold weapon wheel while a bfg shot is active and it will drain all of their health

It requires two shots on the spider mastermind though because of it having a transformation phase (and it bugged out for me sometimes)

[azure oriole]

I’m surprised they never patched that out

[icy ice]

Same but it definitely doesn't work in eternal 😝

[flint flame]

It sure was something

[serene ermine]

hey

[last hamlet]

They put a very large amount of care into making the prototype ps3 controller look as much like a boomerang as physically possible

[azure oriole]

true

it even works some times, sometimes it can make people predict the future

[lusty geyser]

What the secret achievement with the doom slayers hand bandaged

[fast harness]

punch a slayer gate if im not mistaken

[lusty geyser]

no

ive got that

[azure oriole]

I think im ready for tag1 UN

[azure oriole]

And for a reason, so people couldn't break them by throwing them as they would just return before hitting the wall

[azure oriole]

Go for it!

[gray rivet]

Sick!

[crimson yarrow]

id optimizing:

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-23945636

[solemn karma]

Guys one of my friend sayed ''Doom eternal sucks'' what should i do

[azure oriole]

Admit it's true and move on

Kill him with your mind

[edgy fjord]

based

[reef marlin]

QQ: Did they ever added a fix to transfer your achievements and save file from PS4 version to PS5?

[patent stream]

No, they said they couldn’t

[sacred dirge]

Old as hell still have never done that. Pathetic

Have all my controllers to this day

[hasty sparrow]

Doom=daddy

[ember void]

doom=mommy

[lilac grotto]

For a slayer gate do you have to redo the whole level if you complete the level but missed it

[azure oriole]

I think you don't

you just grab the key and go back to doom fortress.

[inland widget]

I have a question regarding the Taras Nabad level. How do I get to the Mastery Token that's located on the level?

[azure oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOobpFSXumE This should solve your problem

[inland widget]

Poggies
Also, I hate Marauders. I've only fought two so far, one in Dr. Hayden's facility and the one on Taras Nabad, and I hate them already

[azure oriole]

also sorry but I am lazy and didn't played doom for 4months, so I forgot almost everything about in that game.

[inland widget]

No problem. I find this to be quite helpful actually, thank you!

[strange gale]

long term memory loss

[smoky badger]

I just bought the ancient gods 1 and 2

Wdym

Shut up you furry

[azure oriole]

you know it is not like he has freedom of speech.

and for example I would like to tell you I got a new 5star In genshin Impact. (freedom of speech remembeR)

[strange gale]

nahhhhh lil bro is pressed

[smoky badger]

Bro what you realise your in a server where it’s about a game?

[azure oriole]

hot words for a 13y old

[robust root]

Oh nice

[azure oriole]

Hot as fuck

[inland widget]

[azure oriole]

I am 14

[azure oriole]

14y old being a creep... Interesting

[edgy fjord]

what is man yogurt

[inland widget]

Anyone else hate Archviles?

[azure oriole]

only you

[inland widget]

[azure oriole]

“Man yogurt”

[edgy fjord]

in general he was asking for images so hot it would make him extract “man yogurt” instantly

wise words

[azure oriole]

Eww

wait he was banned?

[robust root]

Yes

[azure oriole]

LMAO. he got karma

His ego got him too badly that he was banned

[azure oriole]

"15 signs you're a 'yogurt' male"

[edgy fjord]

yo

[opal galleon]

Aw hell naw bruh

[edgy fjord]

yo

[opal galleon]

Updog

[safe sky]

helo

[edgy fjord]

oh man you missed out on a lot

[safe sky]

i just joined i'm new

and i suck at doom

[flint flame]

[inland widget]

[azure oriole]

Hi Saber

How's your day goin?

[strange gale]

[flint flame]

I skipped a bunch of classes

So pretty good

[acoustic canyon]

damn they did not changed the marauder bossfight in the master level :c

that's sad

[azure oriole]

"Bossfight"

[inland widget]

Marauders make me want to gouge my eyes out, I'll say it again

[burnt moss]

“Let me help you to see…”

[azure oriole]

lucky

I always have to stay whole classes at school

[midnight sparrow]

SSG Ballista, it’s not the quickest way but it works

[flint flame]

True

[midnight sparrow]

I would say first Doom Hunter encounter is the easiest

[empty drum]

Agreeable

[ember void]

i completely disagree with marauder hate. they're the only fun enemy that makes the game not boring lmao.

[slow sigil]

Marauders would be okayish if they werent so damn buggy

Like they arent really exceptional, still a tad boring

[worn sphinx]

issue is that all ennemies that require you to hit them at a specific timing completly change the flow of the game

[solar field]

I like the mourouder cause feels like a 1 on 1 duel against something with similar power

And it's probably one of my favorite enimes in the game

[worn sphinx]

yeah but that belongs in a fighting game

[solar field]

I kinda like it

[worn sphinx]

not in fps...

[solar field]

Yeah it does feel weird tho

[flint flame]

I love blood maykrs honestly

I think they’re a better executed marauder

Although they’re completely invulnerable, they have a long window to hit them, and if you don’t you get punished

[midnight sparrow]

Getting headshots on Maykrs are so satisfying

Seeing that flurry of ammo fly out of there necks is so much better then chainsawing imo

[magic marsh]

They’re like piñatas

[worn sphinx]

I do think they are better than the marauder but they still suck... Like I said the issue is you go from dictating the pace to the pace being dictated to you with those ennemies

[magic marsh]

No no, they ARE piñatas

[midnight sparrow]

Exactly!

[hot forum]

hello everyone

[midnight sparrow]

hi

[hot forum]

how yall doing

[midnight sparrow]

Piñatas filled with bullets

[magic marsh]

The ammo’s even colored just like candy

[slow sigil]

Solution is to have other enemies alongisde the BM

So you focus on the other enemies, but you also slightly focus on the BM. and once the bm attacks you you quickly turn to the bm attention to destroy it

[flint flame]

Marauder with a blood maykr inherently doesn’t work

Armored baron with a blood maykr, now that’s spicy

[magic marsh]

Blood Maykrs are makyr drones but not fun in any way

[slow sigil]

Makyr drones are already not fun

Like ohhh a slow moving guy with a giant head that completely fills your hp AND ammo for just 1 headshot

Blood makyrs you gotta atleast try, but i understand why it's mostly only console players who hate them anyways

[worn sphinx]

i find them fun, i can pop their head all day doing pb ballista, it's satisfying (love the part in the horde mode with them)
but blood mayker is just irritating to have to wait for their opening

waiting for an opening is something u find in fighting games or souls like not in fps

[slow sigil]

Well yeah, cause like i said: they dont work alome

You need bmakyrs alongside other enemies, then they work great

[worn sphinx]

but it is still irritating for me to not be able to pop them when i want, it's kinda antithetical to arena fps/ movement shooters

[magic marsh]

You know what would’ve been neat?

[slow sigil]

It's.... not though?
"You gotta focus on other enemies while keeping track of this one too" isnt at all "anthetical" to fps games

[magic marsh]

If they gave the blood maykr, armored Baron and dark lord different flash sounds and not just the marauder’s sound

[slow sigil]

I think bmakyrs flow quite nicely with the gunplay in eternal. Unless they are alone ofc

Never forget the disastrously bad arena in world spear, second to last arena

Just 4 bmakyrs with imps, and 1 prowler at the end

[worn sphinx]

"you can shoot this ennemy only when his invincibility frames are over" is

[flint flame]

Yeah that’s

[flint flame]

They could’ve made him cursed at least

[magic marsh]

Imagine if tag 1 had more maykrs

[slow sigil]

Which works quite ok with other enemies
Still doesnt go against the design, especially not if a game wants you to "play smartly"

[slow sigil]

didn't even exist yet

[azure oriole]

Im close to reach icon of sin,damn i remember when i used to be a newbie at doom and now i can tell im almost at the end of this epic campain mode

[burnt moss]

No, stoplights don’t belong in fps. FPS should have a military mindset of eliminating threats, not catering to when they decide they’re capable of being eliminated.

[worn sphinx]

good luck

[slow sigil]

You aren't exactly catering though. Plus you have other threats to work around

[azure oriole]

Just i think i will need the three miniguns modification ig

[burnt moss]

Yeah you’re catering. I wouldn’t engage a target and then switch targets because it wasn’t ready to be engaged yet. I might switch targets to attack a greater threat, but not for that.

[flint flame]

Eh, not really

Shield is perfectly fine (busted actually)

[slow sigil]

""Fine""
Bit of an understatement

[slow sigil]

Just you then ig

[azure oriole]

Idk why some people when fights against marauder doesnt use súper shotgun and ballista combo,love that one ngl

[burnt moss]

I’m talking about reality. You wouldn’t put someone in your crosshairs and then switch targets while you wait for them to become vulnerable

[burnt moss]

There’s mathematically better combos

[slow sigil]

Cause pb bal works just as well but i can do it from amy distance

[slow sigil]

No but in reality you also dont swing 200 km/h after sticking a grappling hook into them that sets them on fire, shoot a snake lady in her head with a beam of plasma, abd then kill her to regain health

[azure oriole]

I even like when you change fast again to súper shotgun and marauder again its stunned so he gets second shot from ballista

[slow sigil]

I mean, for simple combos, bal-ssg-bal is just as good as any other cause it's a 2cycle

[slow sigil]

And a third from ssg again

[azure oriole]

Either they got a better strategy to defeat a Marauder, or they just don't know SSG-Ballista combo is good.

[azure oriole]

Mostly they use two times the ssg when ballista deals more damage

[azure oriole]

Wrong, it depends on SSG range.

[flint flame]

Mobile turret

[azure oriole]

ec alive

[shut narwhal]

how do you get gold super shotgun

[azure oriole]

tag1 milestone reward if im correct

not worth anyways

[strange gale]

the damage is actually 1:1 in that scenario

nobody ever checks the spreadsheet

ballista is literally only better if you land a headshot, and even then it's 25% more damage

imo ballista is better used on dblade, bboosting, and enemies that don't apply a hard cap of 750 damage on the weapon

[viral hemlock]

Idk if its a ps4 quirk but instead of the zombies going stagger instantly after 2 dashes, i need to throw in a regular punch, that seems weird, its also annoying because that means i cant easily stagger zombies while i have a blood punch

[strange gale]

50 + 50 + 1, happens on every platform

[viral hemlock]

In videos i watched, they always go into stagger after 2 dashes, no punch

[strange gale]

then they took damage from somewhere beforehand

[viral hemlock]

Did they change that in an update or was that always like that

[burnt moss]

I never get it in 2

[real frigate]

CAn you only get event xp by doing those challanges?

Or can you level up the event by doing horde

[viral hemlock]

I am doing regular doom and i get event xp

[real frigate]

ok thank you 👍

[viral hemlock]

How do i enter the ripatorium?

[flint flame]

Did you beat the game?

It gets permanently locked after you beat it once after completing final sin

[viral hemlock]

Nah i still am early game

Was just wondering if it was replayable after the ship part for mission 3

[flint flame]

Yeah it is

After every level, they put in the enemies they introduced into the arenas

[viral hemlock]

Why do they lock ripatorium after beating the game tho

[burnt moss]

They lock it after every time you play it, until you beat the next level

[viral hemlock]

Does mission select count

[azure oriole]

I have to be honest, I’m not all that crazy about Eternal so far. I’m still pretty early in the game, but so far the play forming/environment puzzles is pretty annoying.

[viral hemlock]

At least its not just shoving shotguns down demons throats all the time

[azure oriole]

I’d rather do that

[flint flame]

D2016

[inland widget]

Well folks I've beaten the game

poggies

[burnt moss]

No

[viral hemlock]

What do you guys think of a first playthrough on ultra violence

[burnt moss]

I worked up to it because I was new to modern FPS, but I think other people have had an ok time of it

I prefer to begin games on default settings, so HMP is my recommendation

[sacred dirge]

Good difficulty to start on if eternal is your first doom game

[flint flame]

That’s what I started out with

But I was familiar with doom 2016 and played a ton of shooters

[azure oriole]

I like those new dragon looking Imps

If that’s what they are

[solar field]

I hate that:(

I wanted to kill demons while bfg division and the song goroth something:(

[burnt moss]

Idk about that. UV is the difficulty I ended on for 2016 and a couple Master levels

[sacred dirge]

Most people that had a few years in 2016. We call just did nightmare

Bob included. Just coming from that view

[icy ice]

You might get frustrated earlier on in the game than you normally would. I did it on HMP (same difficulty I do all fps games for the first time) the first time. I cranked it up to UV for one mission and then out of curiosity decided to try NM afterwards and haven't looked back (at least for eternal).

[burnt moss]

2016 veterans doing NM doesn’t mean UV is for beginners

[sacred dirge]

I'd tend to agree with you if you were talking about classic doom

But I'd say if you're not familiar with doom I wouldn't recommend nightmare

[burnt moss]

Eternal has more complexity

[burnt moss]

What about classic makes you feel that way?

[sacred dirge]

Uv classic is I'd say the equivalent of new doom nightmare

For more advanced play. Sure eternal is complex but if you are a doom veteran picked up very easily.

[grand depot]

2016 uv is good

[burnt moss]

Again we are talking about noobs. Why would a noob have an easier time on UV Eternal than UV Classic, in your opinion?

[sacred dirge]

I don't think you're understanding anything I'm saying

[burnt moss]

#doom-eternal message

[sacred dirge]

Okay you're posting something I said you don't understand I don't know how to help you with that

[burnt moss]

I said UV isn’t for beginners. You said people with several years of 2016 gameplay did NM. I said that doesn’t mean UV is for beginners. You said that would be true of Classic UV but not Eternal UV.

[sacred dirge]

What I said is uv is good for people who's first game was not doom or if doom eternal was there first taste of it. If you have solid doom hours don't have to be a pro but you'll find new doom uv a bit less challenging.

[burnt moss]

Who should play HMP in your opinion

[sacred dirge]

You can't misunderstand someone and then try to have an argument with them. That's not how life works

[burnt moss]

You say that as if I intentionally misunderstood you

[sacred dirge]

I'd say people that really aren't to into first person shooters. I can see someone who even plays cod semi often will have a good time with uv as a challenge

[burnt moss]

That makes me feel unskilled.

[sacred dirge]

That's not true at all.

You've done great with practice

[azure oriole]

I’m a Doom noob

[burnt moss]

UV is a nice break from NM, now that I’ve played for most of a year. But to think that that’s where complete noobs are starting seems to negate my progress.

[solar field]

Ahh but that's were your wrong noobs don't exist only slayers

[burnt moss]

Welcome!

[solar field]

Play doom=slayer
Dont=good for you play what you like:)

[grand depot]

📠

[solar field]

So true choom

[azure oriole]

I’ve been doing the games on Hurt Me Plenty

[solar field]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[grand depot]

I like how doom difficulties look like metal covers

[grand depot]

How are those games going?

[azure oriole]

I loved 2016. Bosses were tough to beat, until I figured out the patterns.

Eternal has been fun other than the constant platforming.

[burnt moss]

Platforming got easier when I customized my controls so I didn’t have to remove my thumbs from joysticks as much

[azure oriole]

I’m only a couple missions into Eternal so far. But at this point, I prefer 2016.

Too early to judge though

[burnt moss]

You won’t have your full arsenal until Super Gore Nest (lvl5). Wait till then and Master everything

[mental stone]

I'm still in Doom II.

My parents aren't fans of games like Doom, so I try not to play when they're around.

Unfortunately, they've been around quite a bit recently.

[azure oriole]

Eternal starts clicking from super gore nest and arc complex onwards.
Also second playthrough will feel better than first as you know the game a little already

beat TAG1 on EL mode with only losing 1 life

to that wack ass seraphim smh

[night nexus]

So like.... Why is it so easy to get on the Slayer leaderboard?? Are there seriously that little of Slayer players in battle mode?

[azure oriole]

battle mode is mostly dead.

[night nexus]

.... Yeah.... Figured as much, pain.

[wintry eagle]

Fr they too scared to go against diego

That mf diego is a monster in battle mode

[ocean dune]

I'm scared to ask who Diego is

[vestal oracle]

same

[azure oriole]

sorry if i ask, but who diego is?

[blissful sand]

anyone know if the can't perfect perfection milestone means I can't get runes either?

[slow sigil]

Doesnt specify it

Only sentinal crystals and coins

Well, not even coins. Just the thinga you can buy with coins

You can gather as many coins as you want, aslong as it's just 1 upgrade

[blissful sand]

hm

I'll risk it

thanks anyway

[azure oriole]

Like it says, 1 sentinel crystal and 1 praetor suint upgrade only.
Everything else is allowed, runes, weapon mods and masteries

[blissful sand]

Thanks mate

[azure oriole]

hey i have a question so i did all the challenges ages ago to get the sentinel pedestal then didnt get it then i deleted all my save file redid the campaign on ultra nightmare and everything and I still didnt get it

there any way i can get it?

[burnt moss]

The longer the icon

You can’t just blow a hole

MY EYES HAVE BEEN OPENED

[azure oriole]

The longer the icon is on the surface of mars the more the hole has been opened

[burnt moss]

Insert Vega to activate the portal

[cloud anvil]

remember that one cool art piece from late 2019 or so with the Slayer and all the Sentinels in that blue area and how it had absolutely zero relevance to anything that actually happened in-game or was detailed in the lore later on

[sacred dirge]

Do you mean where the slayer is standing on a rock

That's called concept art. Concept art is just that. A concept. There's tons of pictures like that in the official art book. Some great ideas some not so much

Usually concept art is just used in game development to help the people developing the game get some creative inspiration and draw a general outline. Very rarely is it taken literally in production

Soon. Been playing alot of left4dead for Halloween got distracted

I'm probably moving soon anyways so not sure if I should expand it more or until I get a new area in the new house

It'll be worth it. I also pre-ordered a 1 and a half foot cyberdemon statue.

[midnight sparrow]

Oh that’s cool as hell

2016 Cyberdemon or Classic?

[wintry eagle]

Not even sure diego is still a who at this point. He isn’t human. I once went AFK in battle mode and he dismantled the slayer just by himself

[sacred dirge]

Just the baalgar from 2016 is out right now. Cannon lights up and everything

[flint flame]

With manc and dread that’s pretty easy, all the other ones are team focused

Maybe rev but that’s if you manage to tox plus close range full barrage

[wintry eagle]

Yeah he was crazy fast and real smart about how he played he knew what he was doing

He was a dread knight and I was playing marauder

[midnight sparrow]

That sounds awesome must be pretty expensive to buy all that stuff though right?

Makes sense

[vestal oracle]

bro im waiting for a bus rn and i saw 2 people with cat ears on

this world is full of fucking disappointments

[strange gale]

i suggest you take a look at your name

[slow sigil]

oh no! people are themselves and harming nobody! the horrors!

[vestal oracle]

you defo a further

[slow sigil]

a what

[vestal oracle]

ok glask

[vestal oracle]

furry? you know autocorrect something

[slow sigil]

i mean i was thinking about hitler

[vestal oracle]

ok

[strange gale]

what does this have to do with doom 🗿

[midnight sparrow]

What kind of bus are you getting on?

[vestal oracle]

?

[vestal oracle]

ong

[strange gale]

no you don't get it, i'm telling you to shut the fuck up

[vestal oracle]

don’t care

[slow sigil]

if you dont care then why did you feel the need to go to the doom discord to tell it?

[vestal oracle]

you mad because i have my own opinion?

[azure oriole]

Who asked

[flint flame]

oh great. another one

[vestal oracle]

LOL 3 FURRIES TEAMING UP

[flint flame]

Your opinion? From what Im seeing you're invalidating people's preferences. But sure, call it an opinion

[vestal oracle]

ok

?

[flint flame]

dont bother

[vestal oracle]

what am I supposed to say to that

[flint flame]

Nothing, just dont be butthurt over other people expressing themselves, and don't call random people furries.

[vestal oracle]

ok

[vestal oracle]

ok?

[flint flame]

oh cool, brick wall moment

[azure oriole]

Usually is

[flint flame]

maybe look back on to my comment once your prefrontal cortex has developed