doom-eternal

[waxen field]

Springtrap in 6 looked weird outside of that very specific shot they introduced him in

[random vault]

scraptrap

[waxen field]

I kinda liked that 3 only had one animatronic that and the artstyle in that game. Though the jumpscares were even lazier than usual though that’s always been the weakest part of the games.

[random vault]

fnaf 3 is fun

its the only one i managed to get to night 5 on when i used to play on pc

[waxen field]

I never got passed night 4 or 5 but that was forever ago

I got passed night 5 in the first two though

[random vault]

my laptop doesn’t work anymore tho, but i bought a new one coming in on friday

[waxen field]

Modern laptops feel so cheap

I’ve heard good things about framework but they’re niche

[random vault]

i spent 1200 it probably wont feel cheap

[cloud anvil]

I thought they were different models of Praetor Suit

and that he reverse-engineered the 2016 one to make the Eternal one

[waxen field]

Doom guy doesn’t need air pressure

[random vault]

uh yeah he does

[waxen field]

Then why are his arms exposed

[cloud anvil]

his neck is exposed if he looks up too

[random vault]

because, hot strong guy arms

[waxen field]

Exactly he doesn’t need it

[cloud anvil]

I think he can just survive in the vacuum of space through because of the Divinity Machine powers (but I think it's cooler and funnier if it's just "through sheer will")

[waxen field]

He only needs air when he feels like it

[random vault]

umm… ok

[waxen field]

Mars core no air, Atlantica air

[random vault]

if he doesn’t need air then why did he air under water !!!!!!

[waxen field]

Cause he felt like it

In mars core he was like meh

[cloud anvil]

how come he can breathe in Urdak water just fine but he needs an oxygen tank for Earth water

[waxen field]

It’s special urdak gamer girl water

[random vault]

❔

[cloud anvil]

Gamer Khan water

[waxen field]

if you know you know

[random vault]

❔

[waxen field]

Typo fixed

[random vault]

❔

[waxen field]

[tawny elm]

according to speedrun.com, there are no doom eternal speedruns for nightmare unrestricted any%

now i know what im going to do over the school holidays

[waxen field]

Probably cause everyone runs ultranightmare in place of nightmare

[tawny elm]

ye

might as well do a run lmao

[waxen field]

Dew it!

As everyone’s favorite sith once said

[primal relic]

if you're talking about the water in UAC atlantica facility, I believe that was pressure rather than lack of oxygen

but if I'm being entirely honest I don't think a single water section should've needed some extra collectable thing for you to be able to survive in it. Reclaimed earth did water the best in my opinion

[waxen field]

It showed 🫁 though, also air pressure wasn’t an issue in Mars Core

[burnt moss]

For reference, here’s me doing the same fight. I take a lot more damage than you actually.

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/4NEY3SX4

[hot tree]

Well as you get deeper in the water pressure reduces your lung capacity the slayer is juiced up on saraphim shit yeah but the much pressure might not great on bros lungs

[void grove]

pffft, so I just had a Mandela Effect thinking there was a Plaid skin of the Super Shotgun...thanks promo image

[alpine plaza]

those controls are weirdddd

grenades with button A 🤨 🤨 🤨

[burnt moss]

Wait it shows that?

[burnt moss]

Why not?

[jolly kernel]

main difference seems to be that you are much faster at killing the enemies

[burnt moss]

Yeah but I am bad at defense

[jolly kernel]

I noticed that I spend too much time running around

meanwhile majority of the time you are killing enemies

but other than that, I think the way I play is similar?

[burnt moss]

Well I quickswap, that’s what makes me feel confident enough to just charge at the enemies. But I used to run around like that before I started working on quickswap.

[burnt moss]

I feel like I try to use my time midair to engage enemies. Otherwise yeah.

Holy cow TN ML is stupid hard. Even on HMP I had to use a couple extra lives

Then again I’m barely playing at Nightmare level these days

[jolly kernel]

yeah, I have to quick swap weapons more often, the game even encourages it

super shotgun, rocket launcher and ballista

quick swapping weapons looks like you have to be lightning fast to do it effectively

[burnt moss]

Especially when you get up close like I do. I need to work on engaging from a distance. There’s a bit more leeway with timing if you’re farther away

[jolly kernel]

if I take less time running around while fighting enemies and learn to do quick swaps effectively, it would be perfect

[slow sigil]

I mean, moving while fighting is the best way you can dodge attacks

[burnt moss]

Ok so early game is difficult, even with weapons and upgrades, I’ve just found out. On NM anyway.

[jolly kernel]

I meant I spend quite some time running around not attacking enemies

[slow sigil]

Then attack while moving they arent mutually exclusive

[burnt moss]

Relax

Seriously, even though he’s agreeing with you you’re acting like he’s making excuses. Hasn’t even finished the game once and you’re calling him out for not multitasking

[slow sigil]

I mean from what i'm reading i just thought they said that while moving they can't attack

[burnt moss]

They said that while they are moving they aren’t attacking and they want to work on not just running around

[jolly kernel]

DE has my favourite version of the Arachnotron

its design, sounds and gameplay mechanics

[winter palm]

Personally I like the 64 arachnotron but I also love eternals depiction of the arachnotron

In doom 2 they were just spaghetti bowls with legs

[azure oriole]

Does anyone know how to get marauder skins for battlemode without paying 8 bucks

[winter palm]

Aren’t there some available in the current event?

[azure oriole]

I haven't checked I'll go do that

[winter palm]

You can get the ‘tainted’ marauder skin in the current megaevent however it is level 40

So there may be a fair bit of grinding

[jolly kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1019699950017327185/782330_20220914222545_1-PhotoRoom1.png

an absolute perfection

[azure oriole]

My favorite demon besides marauder

[winter palm]

I like the marauder but sometimes he slows down the pacing

He’s fine when there’s not too many enemies around

[jolly kernel]

the Marauder acts more like a Souls game type of enemy

[azure oriole]

God this eternal main theme is good

[winter palm]

Marauder has some flaws

Not a fan of the traffic light system

[azure oriole]

Yeah that's true

[jolly kernel]

they are actually easy to kill

[azure oriole]

Yeah

Super shotgun and ballista only a few shot and ded

[jolly kernel]

yep

[azure oriole]

Or grenade him a thousand time and crucible

Yep tainted skin at lol 40

Not to hard I mean I got to 21 in 24 hours

[signal spear]

Hello chat.

[azure oriole]

Hello

[signal spear]

I hope now my pc can survive and dont crash after DE

[azure oriole]

I'm sure you be able to play classic doom

Which garuenteed no crashes

With* God I hade mobile

[signal spear]

I cant beat 2nd level in doom 64. No, thanks.

[azure oriole]

Neither can i

[sturdy stump]

Hello people!

[azure oriole]

good pre-afternoon

[sturdy stump]

Is this the place to ask about transfer questions from B-net?

[azure oriole]

#general is

this is #doom-eternal where we talk about doom eternal only

[sturdy stump]

ok, I was under the impression that Eternal's save data is a special case

[azure oriole]

but idk for sure

[signal spear]

Nice avatar bro

[waxen field]

I was fighting a spirit buffed Marauder in horde, I baited it near a powerup then it proceeded to run into me spamming the shotgun wasting half my remaining lives and timing out the powerup.

[woeful brook]

@waxen field spirited marauders are honestly a endurance test

[waxen field]

He refused to melee so I bfged the arena and luckily his ai derped out and didn’t shield the tentacle (it wasn’t direct).

[waxen field]

Honestly is there a fight in the game that is as hard as the prenerf holt slayer gate?

[woeful brook]

@waxen field I don't know I never played TAG 2

[waxen field]

It’s tag 1 lol

You should play the dlc I prefer their levels to the base game, especially tag 1 (despite the nerfs)

[woeful brook]

Maybe some day haha

But what kind of golden weapons you unlock once you completed tag 1

[waxen field]

None that’s tag 2

Tag 1 has better skins anyways, its bfg skin is great

It makes the bfg not look like a plastic toy

[woeful brook]

Well I'm speechles 😶

My head is kinda empty

I can't think of jokes in the moment

[waxen field]

😩

[signal spear]

@shut moatty for watching

[woeful brook]

Why does the crucible look like a butt plug

[waxen field]

That seems like a personal question

[woeful brook]

👏

[waxen field]

❔

I’m not that fluent in emoji

[woeful brook]

Caco clapp

[waxen field]

But how?!?

They haven’t hands

[woeful brook]

I think there is a 200 word doom lore about that

[waxen field]

Unless it’s not there hands they’re clapping

[woeful brook]

That is such a mystery good thing we have the mystery machine

[waxen field]

😳

Sir the clap of my ass checks is alerting the guards!

[woeful brook]

Oh my God hit the deck its a ass-troid

We will send them only you

Open and clap until it is done

[waxen field]

The only one dummy thicc enough to stop it

[woeful brook]

:Processing More Quotes :

[waxen field]

The only one dummy enough to out match their thiccness

The Ass Clapper

[woeful brook]

Of all the cake mankind can produce with

[waxen field]

[quartz charm]

Technically they do
Well, 2016 and eternal cacodemons do

[civic sonnet]

Yea they had small ones

[quartz charm]

Lil trex hands

[strange gale]

there's nothing derp about the tendrils not being blocked, he's literally just not programmed to block them

[civic sonnet]

Nah that’s average

[tall swallow]

Is it worth it to buy one year pass?

Does it last only one year?

[slow sigil]

No, it's a year one pass, not a one year pass or pass for one year
"Year one" means every gameplaydlc released in y1

[tall swallow]

Ohhh!

Thanks thanks

[burnt moss]

You don’t need hands to clap a Caco

[jolly kernel]

@burnt moss

ah shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCtzOxOyVgQ

[simple umbra]

overall i'd say this was alot better than last time, and you got the flaming meathook so yes.

[jolly kernel]

for some reason, while I play DE, sometimes my hands uncontrollably shake and thus I can't do the things I wanted to do

[simple umbra]

im not really sure if thats normal or not, but im pretty sure its happened to me before once

[jolly kernel]

the part at 0:40 is an example of that happening

[sacred dirge]

The nerves ya. That's common in doom especially when recording. Had this issue for a bit. The trick is to just breath through the nose slowly and just focus not over think

[low zephyr]

peeps still play the multiplayer? how is it? needa get some trophies

[shadow vessel]

i dont like it personally

[sturdy saffron]

Doom

[burnt moss]

Nice execution. I thought there was an Archie there too. Maybe that’s the master level.

[hot tree]

Bro I just realized something awful the amount of time it takes for me to get warmed up fully is the same amount of time it takes me to get motion sick 💀

[random vault]

?

[jolly kernel]

how close am I to being very good at DE in your opinion?

[sacred dirge]

You're improving that's what matters. But generally it's not something you have to ask at that point

[burnt moss]

You need to set your own standard. Mine is completing Nightmare, preferably comfortably. But on 2016 I settled for UV. It’s really up to you.

[fossil terrace]

Would you want tips on how to improve?

[burnt moss]

Note that he’s on his first run so I think he should play his way first. External improvements are for later runs.

[fossil terrace]

Ah, that would have been nice to know. My tips would have been surface level, probably just reminders for most

Nah he's using air control

[woeful brook]

What I do to improve is binge watch tutorial videos, GO to the game and use the advice but cry when I die, rinse and repeat till improvement

[jolly kernel]

I never thought lock-on rockets would be really effective

lock-on rockets + ballista + super shotgun is the best combo ever

[vernal talon]

Same

[jolly kernel]

I feel like I can't be very good at this game

I frequently screw things up in big fights and it takes me dozens of retries to do them effectively

even then, it's not great

[azure oriole]

well, everyone had to go through this stage atleast once.

but there is always Improvement, sometimes.

[jolly kernel]

the main issue is why my eyes and hands uncontrollably move during intense fights

[azure oriole]

It took me 2years to Improve as sniper in tf2

[sacred dirge]

You just need to put the hours in just like anything else. It's not going to happen overnight or in one day

[jolly kernel]

I'm at the 7th level of the game and still isn't really good at it

[azure oriole]

after you beat the game, you gonna be Improving.

[jolly kernel]

I wonder how Zero Master's first experience with DE was like

[azure oriole]

no matter how you play the first time, the second attempt is always the Improving one.

[jolly kernel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh5O2xLSbW8

[azure oriole]

I'd say it's decent

but the usage of SSG on long distances I think it's not great, I would rather go with pb (precision bolt) the mod for heavy cannon

[jolly kernel]

I feel like I'm a bit close to playing it well

but it took me dozens of tries to do the effective one shown in the video

[azure oriole]

I mean, for a first time It's good.

It's not the best It's not bad, I'd say it's decent.
as Gougaru Said put more hours into the game and Improvement will come

[jolly kernel]

I wonder why my eyes and arms uncontrollably move during intense fights, it's a big issue

[azure oriole]

Stress probably

and adrenaline rushing.

as a sniper main in tf2 I can't make any mistakes and stress there is unacceptable.

[jolly kernel]

DE is literally the only game I ever played where this happens to me

[woeful brook]

@jolly kernel it's because of a thing I like to call "Combat Stress" don't panic and use your equipment a lot and collect fuel canisters for bigger enemies and try to practice your aim on weak points too

[jolly kernel]

thanks

guess I will try to practice mechanics in the ripatorium

if only that area had heavy enemies though

[slow sigil]

it does

[jolly kernel]

which ones?

[azure oriole]

Hey where do I go to play with people???

[sacred dirge]

The park

[azure oriole]

school

[midnight sparrow]

The Ripatorium adds progressively stronger demons depending where you are in the game

Pretty sure even Marauders can show up

[jolly kernel]

nice

that's great for getting better at the game

[azure oriole]

I cannot agree,

playing a round of sin or some good arena is way better.

In fortress of doom you have inf fuel, if i'm not wrong

• the ripatorium is too small

[jolly kernel]

what about the slayer gate in arc complex

[azure oriole]

it's fine

but not the best

[fossil terrace]

you don't

[azure oriole]

the ripatorium? or is it only for the cultist base introduction? that they give you inf fuel there

[fossil terrace]

you get your resources refilled tho on entrance

[woeful brook]

It still feels like chainsaw refuels are infinite when you enter

Maybe it's the same for the fortress of doom

(I'm talking about the ripatorium btw)

[azure oriole]

cuz If I remember there was this infinite canister in the ripatorium

when vega told you to go shoot some demons so he could locate the cultist base

[fossil terrace]

It might be infinite in the Ripatorium but the Fortress itself, no

At least post Sentinel Prime where you fight demons in the fortress

[versed lily]

another fellow sniper main

[woeful brook]

Me when TF1 is not released

[azure oriole]

Tf classic

it is theorically tf1

[woeful brook]

Nah I think that game is still TF2

Or I'm a fucking idiot i don't know

[azure oriole]

tf classic is a tf1

Where did tf come from this eternal chat I'm so confused

[azure oriole]

It's #doom-eternal

it's basically general 2almost

as long as mods are fine with it.

That's makes sense

[woeful brook]

@azure oriole Welcome to the Underground, How was your fal-

[azure oriole]

cuz #general Is dead asf, but #doom-eternal Is alive.

It's eternal life here duh

[woeful brook]

Caca Demon

[jolly kernel]

how much different your first few times playing the game was in comparison to playing it after finishing it, Shogun?

[azure oriole]

[azure oriole]

I felt, kinda off cuz it was my first doom game. but after my first playthrough I started Improving alot
learning quickswitching, combos, etc etc.

and suddenly I decided to do Ultra Nightmare cuz I'm a masochist.

[reef kiln]

Yo quick question.
Was it ever stated how big The Titan was?
More specifically the giant demon titan specifically made within the deepest parts of hell to kill the slayer. The one who's corpse remains unturned on the umbrella plains.

[woeful brook]

(4,757 ft) or (1,450 M)

[reef kiln]

Ty

[azure oriole]

I know I'm dumb but anyone know the name of the giant sentinel mech in the fortress of doom

[woeful brook]

@azure oriole it had not been said

[jolly kernel]

aren't the most commonly and generally only used weapon combos are ssg + rocket launcher + ballista

[slow sigil]

14 meter sounds small

[woeful brook]

The closest is ARC Mech

[azure oriole]

SSG PB
SSG Bal
Rocket PB

[woeful brook]

@slow sigil oh thanks for pointing out the error I type so fast

[slow sigil]

:kekw: dw

[jolly kernel]

I should experiment on using the heavy cannon's precision bolt with other weapons, it seems really powerful

[slow sigil]

it is, faster then not using it

[woeful brook]

@jolly kernel I usually start with PB and ballista but you can do whatever

[azure oriole]

If you want more specific instructions, Ik Ik It might be hard but ya will get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGhLiLpzsEo here is the quickswitching guide

[woeful brook]

@azure oriole oh I saw it but that's for pc I think

[strange gale]

what an ambitious title

[woeful brook]

||lol wut||

[strange gale]

if a "combo" is just cycling two weapons then sure, this is almost comprehensive

[woeful brook]

@azure oriole the most useful thing out of that video are knowing the weapon combos in general the rest are just "LOL you better time correctly" While with no commentary

[azure oriole]

fr

anyways guys, I'm out to sleep cuz I got school tmr very early. gn

[azure oriole]

I mean like what are they called are they just called sentinels?

[strange gale]

false information https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/504714848194527236/1020067550660411492/unknown.png

[azure oriole]

💀

[woeful brook]

@azure oriole They are just called ARC mechs

[azure oriole]

Ohh okay

[woeful brook]

@strange gale Damn that "Most DPS combo" got the whole squad laughin

[azure oriole]

Welp ima go stream doom eternal at a very low quality

[woeful brook]

@azure oriole let me watch

[azure oriole]

I mean sure just saying the quality is dogshit

Bomboid on twitch

[sacred dirge]

@azure oriole I'm going to have to make a video for the doom room I can't get all of it and everything in a picture now just tried lolll

[azure oriole]

excited as always

[versed lily]

👀

[sacred dirge]

I'll try to put up the helmets today

[azure oriole]

bro making me excited even more

[sacred dirge]

Wait until I get the lights behind them installed

[tough rover]

Did they ever fix the inf crucible ammo glitch where it didn’t work with the crucible ?

[azure oriole]

dont spoil everything

[sacred dirge]

I won't!

[azure oriole]

ive been waiting to see the doom room for eons

[versed lily]

the eternal wait for the doom room

[sacred dirge]

The wait is always worth it

[flint flame]

Yeah got patched two years ago

Patched as in they made it not work with the infinite ammo cheat

[azure oriole]

Casually playing doom 2 in doom eternal

[fossil terrace]

blursed

[azure oriole]

Ikr

I completed doom 2 in doom eternal

[teal storm]

I remember during my first playthrough of the blood swamps, I saw the titan and thought “Is that a titan? It’s huge”
But then I got to the cutscene and my reaction was “HOLY SHIT”

[woeful brook]

Poggers

[gray rivet]

awesome

[dry spire]

has anyone else beaten tag2 and the base game on Ultra-nightmare but not tag1?

[still palm]

Haven't beaten any sort of UN but I am trying to beat base game UN

[tribal silo]

Bout to do a cant perfect perfection run before UN, wish me luck

[azure forum]

You can do that milestone in ITYTD

[burnt moss]

Exultia is hard

[azure oriole]

Bro what

I suppose on nightmare yea

[burnt moss]

Yeah my last NM run felt a bit Rocky so I’m doing another NM run. I lost 3 extra lives on the first Hell encounter

[azure oriole]

Oof

I was trying to uk unlock all the cheats and stuff after I completed Tara's nabad mission so I go and rack up extra live I've got infinite ammo cheat on and I pass through them and one I got all the collectibles I decided do do the Mars slayer gate bro I lost all 20 extra lives before I got to the slayer gate

[burnt moss]

Dang yeah I don’t bother with optional encounters on NM anymore

Or collectibles

[wild holly]

Did they ever fix the doom eternal lag and freeze problem?

On pc? Or do you still have to revert to 472.2 on you graphics driver?

[steep cipher]

Rip snapmap

[burnt moss]

Oh fuck I hate rocket arena

[signal spear]

Tag 1 not so hard, if you use bfg on Samur

[split elm]

taras nabad master level classic mode nightmare is a regret

[burnt moss]

TN ML itself is a regret

[split elm]

yes

I want to die I swear I have been stuck on this dumb room forever. It's a tiny little room with barely anywhere to run, you get crowded a lot, movement is a little inhibited by the amount of enemies they slam in there, and then not to mention the cannon fodder spawning every 2 seconds so you have ABSOLUTELY NO time to shoot at the big dudes

I got all the way to the double doom hunter part but died

[azure forum]

The worst classic mode master level is Mars core. Taras nabad is actually good in classic mode. You get good weapons early on.

[split elm]

I would beg to differ on that taras nabad one

They literally have me fighting like, 2 tyrants and 2 doom hunters with 20 random dudes shooting at me from everywhere with only half of my arsenal

[azure forum]

The arena after the water right?

[split elm]

the only reason those 2 tyrants are alive is because I CANNO NFGISDGN kill them while I'm being swarmed

yes, in that area

area right before rocket launcher pickup

[azure forum]

I think they are 3 barons and when you kill 2, 2 doom hunters spawn

That arena is tough for sure.

[split elm]

yeah that's just dumb man

I mean I did kinda sign up for nightmare so I guess it's giving me a living nightmare

[azure forum]

Exactly. Here's the thing, they made those classic modes to make you suffer. That's why they font give you the shield till the end lol just wait for the coin room without shield

[split elm]

this one room is 10 times worst than the first fight and that was already getting me heated man

[azure oriole]

I did tn ml classic on UV and thought it was pretty good

[split elm]

yeah I'm on nightmare

[azure oriole]

To add insult to injury, you get the shield right after the coin room

[azure forum]

Well they know that without the shield Mod you are going to have a good time

[split elm]

I want to super shotgun myself

[azure oriole]

Then I did mars core and world spear on itytd just to get it done

[azure forum]

Start back and play In a lower difficulty. Clearly if ypu are stuck in an arena in Nightmare, it is too difficult for you right now and not the right difficulty. Don't punish yourself

[split elm]

well, UV is a bit too easy, and NM is a bit too irritating

[azure forum]

Mars core is dumb. Taking 4 archies down with just full auto and heat blast. I refuse to replay that level in classic mode for that reason. Fuck FA

[split elm]

not that NM is too hard exactly, I CAN do it and I'm aware of that, it's just late and I'm barely awake and I don't feel like sweating

[azure oriole]

Classic mode is not really balanced so just drop difficulty

[split elm]

I will not give up until I get it

[azure forum]

That arena isn't that bad. Ypu already have SSG, PB and I don't remember if balista - I don't think so

[signal spear]

Skill issue

[split elm]

dude if I didn't have super shotgun I would uninstall

[azure oriole]

I mean tn ml even with full arsenal on nm isn't exactly easy so

[split elm]

ah yes, original humor

[signal spear]

Basic humor

[azure forum]

You got this man. If you are tired, it is better to take a break. The coin room is going to be rough without shield

[split elm]

If I had ballista my life would be way better

[split elm]

I can prolly just go to bed and leave it overnight so my progress doesn't go anywhere

[azure oriole]

Yep. I played up to the revenant / pinkies fight, then realized I'd have to kill 2 more archies soon.
-> itytd it was

[split elm]

ID software out here making absolute torture chambers

the souls of the damned have nothing on the pain this level causes lmao

[azure forum]

Nah that's your fault for playing it on nightmare son

[split elm]

completely, yes

[azure oriole]

How do you think the souls become damned...

Nekravol is extracting pain from doom players in reality

[split elm]

they're all just master level completionist players

[azure forum]

Honestly if you are just beating classic mode for the reward, just do it in UV.

[split elm]

I just don't like how on super big arenas they just spam cannon fodder but as soon as you get into a tiny space they just spam doom hunters and cyberdemons

[azure oriole]

Oh yeah, you are going to absolutely love where the bfg is in tn ml classic...

[split elm]

slightly for the reward, slightly so I never have to replay it again

[azure forum]

And if you don't get the BFG.... 😂enjoy the Archie room without it

[azure oriole]

Yup

[split elm]

I heard there is a room with archviles behind areas spawning things so you just get screwed over and cannot kill these archies easily lmao

just hiding and stuff

not nice of those archies

[azure oriole]

Wait is this your first playthrough?

[signal spear]

I forgot how hard the levels were. I can't understand you

[split elm]

the most painful part isn't losing, it's the fact that the battles take so long so you spend a while doing it and then you die to something dumb like a possessed soldier and then you cry

[split elm]

of master, yes

[azure oriole]

Archies rarely are nice 😂

[split elm]

I have way more hours on 2016 because I recently only upgraded to a computer capable of running doom eternal

[azure forum]

Yep I feel you. They aren't easy at all though but I think a break and resting are going to help. Also, no need to beat classic in Nightmare.

[azure oriole]

Okay for real do not do classic mode on nightmare as FIRST run

#doom-eternal, can someone say what is goin on here?

[split elm]

it's not a need, it's a want

[azure forum]

You're not ready son. Let's be honest

[split elm]

why do you keep calling me son how old are you

it's a bit off putting, to say the least

[azure forum]

Don't expect to beat probably the hardest master level in clasic mode the first time in Nightmare. I'm old enough to be wiser than you on that, son

[azure oriole]

Do regular nightmare first

[split elm]

I'm fully aware that it's a horrible idea. Is that going to stop me? No

[azure oriole]

Then extra life mode, then un, then classic

[azure forum]

Then have fun son. Good luck in your journey 👍

[split elm]

are the doom hunters the last ones in that room?

[azure forum]

No, 4 tyrants and and a marauder spawn after

[split elm]

UV it is

[azure oriole]

He's joking

[split elm]

oh

nevermind, pain it is

[azure oriole]

But stop playing classic and do regular

[azure forum]

😂 I'll just wait for he to come back on the coin room

[split elm]

yes, I am going to attempt this room one more time. If I win, good, if I fail, nighty night time

[azure forum]

Anyways, I saw that you are back on streaming Asiju. Good videos btw

[split elm]

will leave pc on though so progress doesn't move

I think my main problem is when I get overwhelmed I tend to panic a bit and get a little shaky

[azure oriole]

Thanks, I saw your comment too!
Part 2 of campaign coming soon after this cold is gone

[azure forum]

You mad lad going back to UN

[azure oriole]

It's the one loose end left, I never got a successful run on video

[azure forum]

Yeah, after I got the run on stream, I retired from main campaign.

I never did 100% though and I don't think I will anyways

[azure oriole]

So figured I.d also do a different format ("longplay" + commentary) while at it

[azure oriole]

Yeah me neither, too risky

[azure forum]

Yeah the commentary was nice. Definitely made it more interesting

[split elm]

ok I am not counting this death that was a glitchy mess

bro really stuck me in a corner and said goodnight

[azure oriole]

You are ready for ultra nightmare mindset

[azure forum]

That's not a glitch son

[split elm]

I'm gaslighting myself, let it be

also whiplashes can go eat a bagel but instead of bread it's metal

possessed soldiers AIONFUfgnu siudfghhiudf iuhsdgiu

so annoying when I'm trying to fight a baron and there are 7 of those guys just jogfsioujoidfg

I switched to UV

whoever designed that has a vendetta against happiness

[slow sigil]

Dblade, pb rocket, pb bal

[split elm]

do not have on classic mode

at the stage I was at

[slow sigil]

Bpunch

[split elm]

blood punch on the other hand

favorite enemy are makyr drones, so helpful

[slow sigil]

I wished they gave less stuff

[split elm]

Doubt

[slow sigil]

Nah they give too much hp and ammo for the simple skill of 1 headshot

[split elm]

it is true that it is very unbalanced, but on Taras Nabad Nightmare Classic mode I will not complain

[tawny elm]

Second playthrough Time, going to give nightmare a shot

[strange gale]

remove the health drops, replace them with 2 BP pickups

[dapper rivet]

Best of luck my friend

[tawny elm]

Pain

[wary badger]

still wondering why davoth should have made a early human that could regenerate there body some much that it makes them kind of immortal

[tawny elm]

Do characters even have healing factors in doom?

I don't think even davoth is capable of healing that much

[wary badger]

davoth is a the creator of the doom universe tho

not the father/vega vega/the father is the false creator

[tawny elm]

That's definetely debatable

It's implied that davoth might not have been the first being to exist

[wary badger]

well he created himself its possible other beings made them selfs too

[tawny elm]

Also I just think the idea of making mortals immortal didn't come to davoths mind until after he made the makyrs

[wary badger]

no but kinda yes but no

he made the maykrs so the maykrs could find the secrets of imortality

[tawny elm]

But then davoth also tried to find the secret to immortality

So the father and the makyrs locked him away
And then the makyrs figured out immortality

[wary badger]

well im respecting that since you view it as it is

[tawny elm]

Fun fact: guns limit the slayers power

And he only uses them because "they're fun"

[slow sigil]

He literally made the makyra with the whole purpose of figuring out how to make mortals immortal

[slow sigil]

Fun fact: this is made up by doom fanboys who think the dlayer is some kind of omnipotent god. In reality he is about as strong as ingame

[tawny elm]

The Slayer canonically tore a titan to shreds with his bare hands

He managed to defeat Davoth, the literal omnipotent god of creation

The Slayer is literally the new Dark Lord by the end of ancient gods

Oh yeah did I also forget to mention the praetor suit is capable of withstanding pure argent energy?

And is indestructible by any means?

Or that the temple dropped on the Slayer stunned him for only a few seconds??

[slow sigil]

Doesnt mean he nerfs himself with guns???

Being able to take a lot of hits doesnt mean you're also able to explode stars by lifting a finger or some shit

[slow sigil]

Idk if it specifically stated he used his bare hands, but it definitely didnt state how long it took him. Everyone can technically kill a titan with their hands. The challenge is being alive long enough. Something the dlayer can because he is quick and manouverable

[slow sigil]

He wasnt omnipotent, just quite strong. And in tag2 he literally had lost most of his powers. Otherwise he certainly wouldnt need a giant mecha and slowly attack with his sword

[azure oriole]

[slow sigil]

Stated absolutely nowhere

[slow sigil]

It can absorb it, plus we dont know the destructability of just argent

[slow sigil]

By any means that the UAC had* otherwise you can't make the armour, nor change it like doomslayer did inbetween 2016 and eternal

[slow sigil]

More then a few seconds lol, where is it stated it was merely a few seconds??? Afaik the hell priests had long enough to get him out of his armour and cast a spell pver him

[cyan parrot]

Y’all don’t understand, would you like to play a game where you’re in the berserk power up for 20 hours straight 1 shotting everyone or play a game with bad ass guns and combos you can create with those guns?

[slow sigil]

I mean, it's not even lore accurate. There is a reason why you can only GK when an enemy is weakened or berserk is a powerup

[cyan parrot]

It’s a mechanic man, it’s meant to make you feel badass and cool

If you don’t feel that then why are you playing doom? Go play cod or some other game where you’re a soldier with 2 guns who needs to take cover every 6 seconds

And doesn’t require much of a brain to beat

Doom is a big fuck you to the big 3 fps games, halo, battlefield and cod

It isn’t meant to be generic but meant to be unique and special

To make you feel like a god both lore wise and gameplay wise

[slow sigil]

Doom came out before any of those even entered development

[cyan parrot]

Your point?

[slow sigil]

How can it be a "fuck you" if doom came out before those games where even realised?

[cyan parrot]

I am talking about the new doom games not the old ones

Nowadays every fps is just holding your hand though every challenge

Doom throws you into the challenge and tells you to solve it on your own

No hand holding or anything, which is why doom is so loved and played

Cuz the players feel respected and amazing from how the game treats you

[slow sigil]

||ITYTD||

[strange gale]

writing anything about le canon slayer was a mistake

cause now you get certain people complaining about the lack of lore accuracy in the gameplay

[slow sigil]

I mean, or just have 1 guy actually write some shit instead or winging everything as it releases

[cloud anvil]

This is why I want someone like Todd McFarlane to write Doom 6’s plot tbh

[slow sigil]

I just want someone to write shit down

[strange gale]

fun fact: the game would be dogshit if that wasn't the case

[cloud anvil]

Why the fuck did Hugo even need to say that kind of thing
I hate God Sues man

It almost feels like some kind of knee-jerk reaction to 3 going even harder with the “just a guy” thing than previous games did so Hugo went out of his way to make the Slayer anything but “just a guy” as possible

I wouldn’t be surprised if Doom 6 attempts to retcon the retcons

[wary badger]

classic doom 2 is not brutal to me now

[alpine trench]

Old dooms was scary game not fps game

[mystic vault]

arguing about doom lore vs mechanics like a bunch of bozos

next time argue about why doom eternal doesnt have a roblox port

[shadow vessel]

what

[reef umbra]

is it about gameplay doesn't reflect lore

[shadow vessel]

?

why is this server always so confusing to me

[reef umbra]

the discussion. we are a bit late i guess

[shadow vessel]

i can understand this franchises lore easier than a sentence of most people

[reef umbra]

this is my first time talking here so idk how people communicate here. though doom lore kinda messy

[shadow vessel]

for sure

this is the worst place to talk in the world, i assure you

I am almost completely convinced that the majority of people who speak here are 13 or under

[reef umbra]

i have been to places like that. it's terrible

[teal storm]

being forced to listen to a 13 year old's opinions feels like a violation of my basic human rights

[shadow vessel]

its not even opinions its random bullshit

[teal storm]

literally

[shadow vessel]

they're not even making a point they're just saying the most incomprehensible things

[reef umbra]

do you have any examples? i am kinda curious

[teal storm]

"I'm 13, I love hitler, I laugh at dark jokes (you wouldn't get it) and I hate LGBT"

[shadow vessel]

one day there was an argument about someone with a doom slayer pfp talking about hes a based sigma chad and that girls cant play doom and how he loves eating poop

[teal storm]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-factory-you-will-never-find-another-store-shelf-a-bunch-of-buzz-lightyears-gif-21719996

[shadow vessel]

Lasted about an hour and 30 minutes the next day not even exaggerating

2 day argument

[teal storm]

calling yourself a chad is the least chad thing you could do

[shadow vessel]

Then theres #general which is like a preschool playroom

[reef umbra]

phew i didn't know it was that bad

[shadow vessel]

this community is messed up

[reef umbra]

that's disappointing

[teal storm]

i've been in roblox discord servers, I've seen some shit

[reef umbra]

i haven't been active in servers for 1.5 years. things have changed for the worse lol

[wary badger]

doom 2 is a fast pace shooter tho

[shadow vessel]

half the people here probably come from roblox discord servers where they take turns singing metal gear rising songs while reposting devil may cry memes and comparing their collapsing lonely life due to their totally inept social skills to the sigma grindset

[wary badger]

your talking about doom 3

[wary badger]

whats wrong with you

[shadow vessel]

lots

[reef umbra]

i think they are doing that in DOOM server just for the sake of irony

[shadow vessel]

im sure many are, yes

but regardless whether its ironic or thats their unfortunate online behavior, its still annoying

[reef umbra]

it is for sure

[shadow vessel]

there are some very cool people here, not everyone is just an irritating cringelord

[teal storm]

i thought a server for doom would mainly comprise of more mature people, which is the main target audience of the doom franchise
boy was i wrong

[reef umbra]

same

[shadow vessel]

so you'd think

[reef umbra]

was the cringe invasion caused by something or it has always been this way?

[shadow vessel]

i mean i havent been here that long so i wouldnt know

but most things like this comes from meme culture

people see doom memes, they think its cool to like doom, they get into doom, they think they're cool

[reef umbra]

are doom memes that main stream?

[shadow vessel]

depends what kind of community you're in

for the "sigmas", its likely

[reef umbra]

i can't believe that greek letter stuff is taken that seriously

[teal storm]

the what

[reef umbra]

the alpha sigma delta whatever

[teal storm]

ahh that

[cloud anvil]

If the Slayer lore wasn’t a thing the Doom fandom would be at least 75% less annoying

[reef umbra]

what's the issue there

[cloud anvil]

Because the Slayer lore is where most of the stupid memes originated

I say most because the Slayer lore itself is partially based on a stupid meme

I don’t know how the hell the comic went from hated to loved, maybe it’s because of Brutal Doom

[reef umbra]

interesting

[azure oriole]

It was hard to find secrets in 2016 when in DE it shows secrets on the automap

[flint flame]

[azure oriole]

Hi Saber

[teal storm]

i wonder who would be stronger: the icon of sin or the giant titan in the blood swamps (i think its name was Maligog but i’m not sure)

[ebon thorn]

Nintendo has Ancient One Expansions on sale? Played Eternal and loved it. Is the expansions worth $15??

[sacred dirge]

Yes

[simple umbra]

I'd say yea

[slow sigil]

get the year one pass, it's more worth it

[ebon thorn]

One year pass? What’s that???

[slow sigil]

both the dlc but a bit cheaper

[burnt moss]

I’m in Facebook jail lol

[azure oriole]

On switch it's the expansion pass

[ebon thorn]

Okay. Makes sense. Thank you.

[azure oriole]

Good evening doomers

[teal flare]

Good evening

[azure oriole]

Easily

[sacred dirge]

Rep a tur

[azure oriole]

Rap a turd

Gert is such a good emoji

[edgy fjord]

true

[flint flame]

[random vault]

hi saber

[vivid cliff]

which level do u think is the most balanced?

id say arc complex. cuz u got all the basic tools but not everything

[shadow vessel]

definitely

[midnight sparrow]

ARC Complex or Super Gore Nest, they both are that point in the game where everything should fall into place

[azure oriole]

Guys how to survive ultra nightmare? I beat nightmare a few times and I tried on ultra nightmare and beat the first mission, but I did get a few close calls. All of them were on the 3 cacodemons and 2 arachnotrons and a few soldiers and imps

[azure oriole]

have all of your mental health prepared and skill and freetime

without those 3 things I wouldn't attempt UN.

• anyways, UN isn't worth your precious time.

[icy ice]

Chainsaw heavies. You can get away with only shooting one Arachnotron in hell on earth

And don't bother with the first slayer gate. Too much risk imo

[sacred dirge]

Or just good get

[azure oriole]

I won't do any slayer gate or secret encounter unless I know it's something easy

[azure oriole]

I only do the 2 secret encounters in exultia and that's it (gives just enough points to put 6 into lock on and 9 into ssg in cultist base)

There's a secret encounter in nekravol which is easy as fuck like one prowler one hell knight

Yeah there are a few piss easy ones but at that point I have all mod upgrades I need anyway

I sometimes do the secret encounters in super gore nest but that's entirely optional too

Once I have stickies, pb, lock on and destroyer blade fully upgraded I'm basically done

I never used db in un

am I cursed?

Yes

[azure oriole]

in addition I'll get faster recharge for energy shield, faster target acquisition for mwb and bigger explosion for arbalest and that's it.
I do not even take full auto or mobile turret

(Which in turn means I do not need the 2 mod bots in fortress)

So after I have both crystals and all praetor points from fortress I do not need any more batteries

[azure oriole]

Ngl its really not that bad

If u get the armor for blood or health for blood upgrade you can kinda just belch all the fodder in the first wave of enemies and spam bp

[azure oriole]

mwb?

[slow sigil]

micro wave beam

[burnt moss]

my wonky bollocks

Hey what does “demons drop armor at a faster rate” do? Does it also increase the total armor from each demon?

[slow sigil]

i think so

cause it drops armour faster, so i would assume so

[woeful brook]

Poggers

[flint flame]

It’s the most fun!! 😠

Plus you get a decent amount of weapon points for early game

[azure oriole]

exactly,
you can afford SSG&LOB. after you do the first gate

[slow sigil]

yeah but you dont need all the LOB points right away

[azure forum]

First slayer gate is lower risk anyways. It is like 15-20 Min into the game for 3 valuable weapon points.

[slow sigil]

and if you save up chainsaws you can instantly remove a dreadknight too

[burnt moss]

Meathook drops 30 armor but belch drops 20 (without the suit upgrade, that is)

[icy ice]

Every slayer gate after that is doable without real worry of death.

[icy ice]

It's only bad because you don't have much

[slow sigil]

yeah but why do them in UN and risk the extra encounter

[icy ice]

I usually save all weapon points until I need to max out the lock-on burst and ssg

[icy ice]

The game is much easier at that point because of your arsenal. The first slayer gate is unforgiving in this regard imo

However, if you don't need the extra weapon points, then don't bother with them.

[azure forum]

Every slayer gate after the second are not worth it. By arc complex ypu already have enough weapon points to upgrade SSG, RL LoB and Dblade. All other weapons don't really need major upgrades and you can upgrade them as you go.

[sacred dirge]

Probably just the flex

[azure oriole]

True, kinda just need to spam sticky and plasma rifle

[strange gale]

you have a decent amount of stuff even by the exultia gate though, pb pcancel into stickies is nice and reliable damage. yeetblast gives 3-4x damage to heat blast, for free. pb -> bpcancel -> pb staggers the revenants in the gate safely. blood punch in general is pretty strong early game. you can even get 3 fuel pips for free from the crystal, and delete one of the heavies immediately.

[ebon thorn]

Played about an hour. Love it!!

[void grove]

the pass gets you both parts of The Ancient Gods and is cheaper, but you might want to play the base game first so you understand plot stuff

the sword is in the base game and price depends on where you're purchasing from

I believe there is a sale going on right now

[still palm]

Made it past Super Gore Nest and onto ARC Complex only to have my progress ruined by a bug on the second elevator to the guns

[burnt moss]

UN?

[still palm]

yep

[flint flame]

[azure oriole]

yeetblast?

Is that lvl 3 blast?

[flint flame]

It’s a heat blast tech

[burnt moss]

Oof.

[sturdy saffron]

UN time

[azure oriole]

I died at cultist base on UN, holy fuck does this game piss me off sometimes

I got too careless with shooting around, i need to focus on moving first then shooting afterwards

I fucking hate having to play through the first 2 levels every single time i fail a UN run

[burnt moss]

That’s why I don’t play UN

[azure oriole]

Is there any vids i can watch to explain it?

Any tips for UN?

[fallow imp]

dont die

[azure oriole]

Thanks ill make sure to incorporate this in my gameplay

[waxen field]

Shit you mean my zombie death strat wasn’t good, damn.

[fallow imp]

np brobro

[still palm]

Do not fear death

That is probably the biggest and most common issue

if you feel confident in your gameplay then you shouldn't have the fear of dying, that's what helped me

[alpine plaza]

can apply for real life too

[median zealot]

I completed the toy collection ( yes I'm proud of myself)

[alpine plaza]

what about the cd collection

🤨

[wary badger]

big scared lmao

[wary badger]

its a double edge sword dont be too confident and dont be too afraid

[still palm]

True

[wary badger]

still dont know how can i put grammer in it

[waxen field]

Honestly the first gate is the hardest, especially if you don’t save up chainsaw ammo

[waxen field]

Honestly I think UN is a lame and lazy way of making the game difficult

[burnt moss]

Shoot the demons

Of doom

[icy ice]

And move

[flint flame]

Not like there’s tutorials or anything

[icy ice]

If only the game came with a manual like the good ol days

[burnt moss]

Hey how do I skip half of ARC Complex?

[azure oriole]

Cheats

No if I'm being honest there's a few areas where you don't have to kill

Just go from point a to b don't kill until you have to

[burnt moss]

Bloodshot talks about skips on this level, are they not common knowledge? Maybe only for speedrunners?

[azure oriole]

Probably speed runners

Idk I usually just run around and then kill when I need to if I'm just trying to get through the mission for a collectable or sumthin

[burnt moss]

I did it! Went straight from the Mario’s patio to the bridge

[burnt moss]

Of course I had to go back and do the parking garage encounter just to get a praetor point. They actually had it behind glass doors before I triggered the fight

[sturdy saffron]

Ok I beat doom eternal where's my icon of sin toy

[quartz charm]

I think you gotta collect all the toys to get it

[azure forum]

Nah, it is a tough mode for sure but it is not required anyways. Just enjoy the game in whatever difficulty you find fun.

[burnt moss]

I argue that when a game has a mode or specific challenge, it becomes a “requirement”. The only challenges that aren’t requirements are fan-made

[azure forum]

People that beat UN do it for the challenge because they like it.

[burnt moss]

That’s the same reason anyone plays any part of the game.

So it’s just as much a requirement

[azure oriole]

Yeeess.....

[azure forum]

It is not. The game doesn't force any player to beat UN. You don't get anything other than bragging rights, and even then people can just cheese if they care so much about conpleting milestones

[azure oriole]

Yeah I'm with Rodark, UN is 100 % optional, not meant to be completed by everyone

[burnt moss]

Then nothing is a requirement

[azure forum]

The only requirement is to have fun.

[worldly oyster]

Hola

[burnt moss]

Personally, when I start a game, I see the achievements/milestones as a task list. This is what the makers wanted me to achieve. It is a list of “requirements”.

[worldly oyster]

Voldeneye are you a masochist? I'm sure games are meant to be fun.

[azure oriole]

That's a weird way of looking at it.
Milestones are things you CAN do, not things you must do.
If you are a completionist then more power to you but that doesn't mean 100 % is the only or the developer intended way to play.

[burnt moss]

I’m the kid in class who calls out the teacher for putting trick questions on the extra credit portion of a test

The difference here is there are skins and podiums that I will never have because of some of the milestones in Doom Eternal

Whereas missing an extra credit question has no consequences

[azure oriole]

Rewards for optional stuff, hardly mandatory

[burnt moss]

But none of it is mandatory

[azure oriole]

Also if you're going this route there are also a bunch of battlemode milestones

[burnt moss]

Which is part of why I’m so bitter about it

My point is that if there is incentive for something, that means it’s something you’re supposed to do

[azure oriole]

I get your point but I dare say it's a bit flawed

Or then there should never be rewards for optional stuff

[azure forum]

And some of the battlemode milestones are very difficult to get unless you get in private matches just for those milestones. I personally have never cared about any of those milestones. All skins are meaningless and do not do anything in game. The point is to have fun playing the game.

[burnt moss]

I’m saying leave the really difficult stuff out of the game entirely. UN should be in the same class as Brawler mode, not anything promoted within the game’s structure

[azure oriole]

Why?

[azure forum]

Brawler mode is a joke made by a player that think that using bad weapons is good

[burnt moss]

Because if I can’t 100% something that makes it less fun

[azure oriole]

With all due respect that's very much a "you" problem 🙂

[burnt moss]

Shovel Knight was really fun until I had to leave a couple of the challenges undone. One was deathless, and there were a couple others that were just as much of a grind

[azure oriole]

You are a completionist, I get that

[azure forum]

UN is not promoted at all. It is just the ultimate challenge for those looking for it. Doom eternals ceiling is really high and many players like a good challenge once they feel they have reached that ceiling. It takes pracrive to master abilities in the game to beat that mode. That's why people like it.

[burnt moss]

It is promoted. It is just as expected as ITYTD, within the game itself.

[azure oriole]

Having a reward for completion is hardly the same as "expected"

[azure forum]

I feel like a lot of players want to beat it just by playing 50 hours or beating the campaign twice in UV. Everybody that has beaten that mode decided to put those hours because they like the challenge. Liking challenge and liking to just complete milestones are different things. Both are good as long as you enjoy it.

[burnt moss]

That’s where we disagree. Incentive is communication that something is expected.

[azure oriole]

Again you are talking from the completionist perspective, which is fine, but I don't all games should be designed or balanced for 100 % completion

[azure forum]

Exactly, if not good luck completing BoTW 😂

I think that the moment you focus on the milestones too much is when you stop enjoying the game because your goal is just to finish a milestone more than focusing on enjoying the game and just playing it.

[burnt moss]

It is deeply ingrained in culture as a whole that you buy a video game and then “finish” that game, then you buy another one and play that.

[azure oriole]

Or any RPG for that matter

[burnt moss]

Or at least when I was a kid that’s what it was supposed to be

[azure forum]

Games in the past were much easier to complete than modern games. I feel you on that though.

[azure oriole]

Finish needs to be defined. I consider a game "finished" when I've completed a single playthrough.

[burnt moss]

You know how games like this make the weak feel strong, the incompetent competent? For me, they’re meant to make me feel like I’m accomplishing something.

[azure oriole]

That was also the criteria for getting new games as a kid

My parents didn't expect me to 100 % every game

[azure forum]

It does. Don't you feel liek you accomplished something when you beat it in Nightmare?

I felt happy the first time I beat the game. It was freaking hard the first time

[azure oriole]

Aren't you? You went from easy to NM player

Besides UN is 50 % skill, 50 % knowing how to do UN

[burnt moss]

It’s not enough. The game will always be incomplete

[azure oriole]

Yes you need a level of competence for UN but spawn menorization etc are just as important

And I dare say memorization is not an accomplishment

[burnt moss]

Rationalizing is the road to complacency

[azure oriole]

Rationalizing is the only way to make sense of things

[burnt moss]

Agreed. I made these same arguments months ago

[burnt moss]

I meant rationalizing why you failed to meet a criteria. Making excuses.

[azure forum]

Focus less on milestones and more on gameplay. If ypu feel like you are getting annoyed, take a break from the game. That helps. I've done it when I feel I hit a roadblock

[azure oriole]

Yes I remember, was about to bring that up.
You yourself said there is no skill involved in memorization

With that in mind, UN is not a skill check in the sense if you don't do it = bad

[void grove]

well while memorization is important, you would still need the skill to be able dispatch whatever is in the way....even though I've never done any UN runs

[azure oriole]

But hey this all just boils down to you having to do UN 🙂

[azure forum]

UN requires a lot of skill. The majority of players can't even beat nightmare without dying less than 5 times after multiple playthroughs

At the end, UN just gives you a cool banner. That's it. All other rewards are meh

[burnt moss]

And my argument is that by setting something as an achievement, it becomes a skill check

[azure forum]

But you know what's not meh,, the green chrome skin with the UAC podium and you don't even need UN

[burnt moss]

I want the podium you get for getting all milestones

[azure oriole]

Yes you need a high enough level of execution and if you are good enough you need to memorize less ofc.
But the original convo was whether UN is considered mandatory or optional

[azure oriole]

Oh yes

[burnt moss]

To me it’s like you take a PE class, show up every day, turn in your assignments, but the teacher will get a signed basketball for whoever runs a marathon during the semester. Is it a requirement? No. But it feels like it a bit, like you didn’t do everything.

[azure oriole]

But: the teacher surely made it clear it's an optional thing, not required to pass the course

[void grove]

well as a newer Eternal and also Doom player in general I would see it as optional since I beat the main story and the closest I've gotten is doing the first level on Nightmare due to monthly quests...however the mention of a green chrome skin sounds cool

[azure oriole]

In the same way DE does not require you to complete UN

[azure forum]

Have you seen that combination son?

[void grove]

no I haven't seen it, but it sounds cool

[azure forum]

Let me show you the way

[azure oriole]

I forget is UAC podium from campaign or tag 1?

[azure forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/935398695782985778/996814780964798595/Screenshot_20220713-122547_Stadia.jpg

[azure oriole]

Yes that's erotic

[burnt moss]

Well assuming I’m already an A student, I don’t feel good about passing classes. Because that’s baseline behavior. I must max everything. Kinda how I beat myself up for dying even once on HMP.

[void grove]

wow

[azure forum]

Campaign. Annoying milestone with the 1 crystal and 1 upgrade

[burnt moss]

Do yu no de wae?

[azure forum]

And you don't need UN to look that sexy always remember that kids

[azure oriole]

Yuck. I'd rather do UN fr 😂

[azure forum]

Meanwhile I use default skins on switch 😂

[azure oriole]

I remember hating that challenge. Granted it was ages ago but it was so tedious

[burnt moss]

Can’t perfect perfection?

[azure forum]

Yep, a challenge that's actually worth it for the reward

[burnt moss]

Eh I don’t love it

And a challenge that ties your hands behind your back doesn’t sound fun

[azure forum]

I was thinking that if I do extra life mode with that challenge together, and then UN, I don't have to ever beat campaign again on Switch

[azure oriole]

Indeed. But there's a reward for it... a good one

[burnt moss]

I suppose it would be nice to rush through the game like that

[azure oriole]

Good thinking.
That said I actually like replaying the campaign.

[azure forum]

I don't to be honest. I hate exultia. I like replaying master levels more than anything and TAG1.

[burnt moss]

I honestly think ARC ML might be easier than base ARC

[azure forum]

Yep, it probably is. Having full arsenal for that master level makes it a joke.

Arc had so much potential though.

[burnt moss]

I’m gonna try in on NM right now

Might be suicide

Weeeeee

[azure forum]

When I started playing, It took me multiple attempts to get a clean deathless run on both cultists and Arc master levels. I couldn't do it. I remember being frustrated because I couldn't complete them without dying.

[burnt moss]

Dead

[burnt moss]

On Nightmare?

[azure forum]

Yep

Not that they are difficult compared to the other MLs, but I wasn't just good enough. I needed to git gud

[burnt moss]

Dying

[azure oriole]

I throw up in exultia every time but past that it's fun.
Okay I only play campaign UN these days so if I didn't play UN I'd probably not play campaign either anymore

[burnt moss]

Hey this isn’t so bad

Whoever designed this level has a Pain Elemental fetish

Aw I lost my extra life

[mortal grail]

Someone tell me to sleep and stop playing doom

[burnt moss]

What do you have going on tomorrow

I decided to use the skip on ARC ML. Feels a bit like cheating but I was getting bored

[civic zodiac]

Go to sleep and stop playing doom

[mortal grail]

Just a school dance

[burnt moss]

Idk what you want to sleep for then

[civic zodiac]

Yeah keep playing doom

[mortal grail]

X3 I'm so tired

and at this point, I'm mad at the game so I might just wait til tomorrow

[waxen field]

I think having super hard modes in a game isn’t bad I just find permadeath lazy in games not designed around it.

[burnt moss]

Dang it I was going to stop after Mars Core but now I might as well kill the Gladiator

Lost 3 extra lives I think. Not terrible. His green eye flash is not reliable

[wary badger]

finish taras nabad too

[burnt moss]

No

[wary badger]

why

[burnt moss]

I did SGN, ARC, ARC ML, MC, and Sentinel Prime tonight

[wary badger]

okay

[burnt moss]

That is enough

[azure oriole]

I wish the campaign had multi-player capabilities

good morning ec

[simple umbra]

co-op

[azure oriole]

I'm officially stupid

[waxen field]

Seeing that they can’t even add saves to mls I’m not even sure if it could be done without a ton of work.

[azure oriole]

that sadly would need to make game harder in coop + it wouldn't fit the style of the game ngl,
plus it requires a hell ton of work to make a good working coop campaign mode.

Well I thought it would be fun

Though two slayers would be no chance for the demons

[azure oriole]

Exactly, so they would need to strike up a difficulty in coop.

• everyone knows DE isn't really a coopgame

[azure oriole]

It is, but:

• shooting too early will not work (you have to shoot pretty late actually for best consistency)
  -your shot might hit his morning star easily, too

Once I found those two things out I've not had trouble parrying gladiator anymore

[azure oriole]

Ik I just get lonely and I'd like to play the campaign with someone for fun not for serious

[burnt moss]

Morning star?

[azure oriole]

His weapon

[burnt moss]

Die late mean after the flash? I’ve been trying during the flash

[azure oriole]

After the flash yeah, try it

Or at the very end of the flash

You'll find the sweet spot

[burnt moss]

What weapon do you use

[azure oriole]

Ballista

Are we talking about marauder?

[burnt moss]

Gladiator

[azure oriole]

Oh

Go to codex

I just destroy gladiator with a rocket launcher ballista and super shotgun

[burnt moss]

Are you talking about both phases?

[azure oriole]

Yes, don't recall there being a difference between phases timingwise

Ofc in phase 2 he uses green flash attack less and is damageable otherwise

[burnt moss]

I got sidetracked and ended up getting some SLOB practice in https://www.xbox.com/play/media/ASY6VSZY

[azure oriole]

I'll watch that after I shoot my ISP

[burnt moss]

I think if you continue holding MOD you only get single slob, but if you release it you get double

[burnt moss]

ISP?

[azure oriole]

Internet service provider

[grim bobcat]

.........

[azure oriole]

Yeah the second one fires automatically if you do not press fire or alt fire

[burnt moss]

So you killed Century Link?

[burnt moss]

So I was actually preventing the second set all along by holding mod.

My controller has deep trigger squeeze which makes the timing even harder

[azure oriole]

Yep.
Let go off mod immediately after you have pressed fire

Come on we've went through this a million times 🙂

[burnt moss]

There’s so much to screw up

[azure oriole]

guys

if i get twitch prime for the unicorn suit can i get rid of prime straight away

[full tinsel]

wrong place to ask.

[azure oriole]

alr

where tho

[full tinsel]

DOOM Eternal Twitch Prime Drops are not available anymore so check your respective digital retailer to purchase it there.

[azure oriole]

whats that tho

lol i play on steam

[full tinsel]

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[azure oriole]

ty

i find it funny to kill as a unicorn

[azure oriole]

is there any more skins that i can buy

[full tinsel]

Yes: https://store.steampowered.com/dlc/782330/DOOM_Eternal/

[azure oriole]

tysm man

btw how do i screen shot

[full tinsel]

Press Windows-Key + Shift + S simultaneously

[azure oriole]

i tried that in doom

[full tinsel]

In-Game you just need to press F12

[azure oriole]

alr thx

[azure oriole]

i got the dlc ty lol

its so funni

[brazen oriole]

is there a way to get it by doing something in game?

[slow sigil]

Nope lol

On pc i guess you can mod it in, cause it was once kinda free

But it's either the very legally grey area or paying too much money

[brazen oriole]

can you send me a mod? i searched for a unicorn skin mod for hours but didnt find one

[slow sigil]

you gotta make it yourself, skin unlocker has been removed by the makers cause of how grey it was lehally

it's really not that hard though i'm pretty sure

[brazen oriole]

is getting 100fps in doom eternal ultra settings good?

[patent stream]

Anything above 60 is excessive so yes

[azure oriole]

Depends on what your target is.
For me 100 fps would be minimum comfortable frame rate in a game like eternal

I'm using a cap of 220

[slow sigil]

not with a 144 hz monitor

[brazen oriole]

even in low settings it doesnnt go above 150fps and i have a 240hz monitor

[wary badger]

davoth was once a loving god who loved his own creations but was corrupted because of the betrayal and the vega/the false father

i felt like saying that

[azure oriole]

That twist still bothers me

[stuck hedge]

What rune combination is the best?

[azure oriole]

I run with blood fueled + dazed and confused + equipment fiend

[wary badger]

air control equipment fiend dazed and confused

[slow sigil]

air control is the best one, then equipment fiend and blood fueled follow up usually but swapping out one of those 2 for another one isnt bad, hell you can do both if you want

[patent stream]

Idk I have a 144hz monitor and play 30fps games 🤷‍♂️

[slow sigil]

sheez

[wary badger]

enough for me if i have shaders on

[sacred dirge]

144 is where it's at anyways. 24 inch 144 is just perfect for me

[wary badger]

in any game but im not sure if doom eternal can have shaders

can a super intelligent demon develop and willing to fight against the demons and become a demon ver of doom guy

[random vault]

i have a 165 hrtz monitor and got 250 fps in tf2, i think its pretty cool

[azure oriole]

Gougaru, Doom Room 👀

[wary badger]

hey guy if you guys had a chance to name a future doom game what will it be

[azure oriole]

Doom Eternal but better

[wary badger]

DOOM eternal inferno or DOOM eternity

[azure oriole]

but fr, if it's gonna be doom eternal but better I hope it's not gonna be like dying light 2.

[wary badger]

dl2 is a survival game

[azure oriole]

it is an rpg kinda more RPG

[wary badger]

okay

[azure oriole]

survival aspect there is like at 0%

[brittle quest]

doome 3 ofcourse

[wary badger]

but doom is fast pace

[azure oriole]

Doom is good at every aspect

[wary badger]

a better doom 3 where it has the shading but fast pace

[wary badger]

but still has some horror aspects

[brittle quest]

I'd actually love that lmao, that would be a perfect emulation of both gameplay and story.

[wary badger]

yes

[brittle quest]

Demons in DE feel weak by design, they don't stand a chance and the story while being interesting does everything in it's ability to deter you from actually liking it.

[azure forum]

Playing DE on the deck feels like a complete new experience

[wary badger]

the mecha zombie is stronger then a normal imp cuz it could withstand a ssg blast at some distances

[brittle quest]

So switch but 60 frames?

[azure forum]

Yep, 60 frames. It is freaking awesome but definitely takes time to get used to the grip and controllers

[brittle quest]

Yeah I have some dysphoria regarding the demons. The power scaling is off and most of them look stupid rather than intimidating.

[wary badger]

and a blood punch if behind a fodder

[brittle quest]

Tell me when it gets 144 and then I'll be interested 🍷

[wary badger]

well we dont want some game journalist being babys

[azure forum]

Eh 60 fps is more than enough imo.

[wary badger]

i know doom lore but i dont know doom 3 lore

[simple umbra]

I finnaly got the skullface skin

[wary badger]

was it easy

[simple umbra]

eh sometimes it was easy but mostly pretty tough, tho dark lord was the easiest imo

[brittle quest]

Not for me, I couldn't imagine playing 60 on DE. It's so much more fluid on higher frames because of it's relative speed tendency, I'd rather play a lower resolution and experience more fluidity than to get stuck at 60; that almost feels like cement shoes.

[wary badger]

could i skip the double marauder screecher hell zone

[simple umbra]

I'm pretty sure you cant

[brittle quest]

Also FSR 2.0 rolled out for DE, so the deck should get 100+ frames.

[simple umbra]

I almost died at that part aswell

[sacred dirge]

It's funny because eternal is so well optimized you can barely tell the difference from the high to UN graphic settings so why not go for some frames

[azure oriole]

I died in Doom hunter base first arena...

[brittle quest]

Only settings that make a difference for me is reflections and decals (if I squint), I keep them at UN.

[sacred dirge]

Oh definitely I agree there

[azure oriole]

turns out playing ultra nightmare while sick is not the best idea

[brittle quest]

Sick from what?

[sacred dirge]

Switches to uv

[azure oriole]

some cold

I had to do some reno work earlier in the week and seems the cold didn't like that

[brittle quest]

Hope you get better then, a cold isn't much but it sits perfectly between being annoying and being untolerable.

Also playing UN won't do much to help your health

[sacred dirge]

Tachycardia is fun

[azure oriole]

I wanted to resume the video series

which ofc now reset so... good idea!

[brittle quest]

You could just save scum... just for the sake of the series

[azure oriole]

playing any FPS game while being sick is not a good idea

[azure oriole]

I'll resume from doom hunter base once I get back there

was kinda hoping to get it done in one run though but eh

[brittle quest]

Correct in most situations, you play substandard; get frustrated and end up worse than you started.

[azure oriole]

as a sniper main being sick is the worst thing that can be in this world

cuz I get distracted by being sick, and I can't focus.

[simple umbra]

i might attempt to do the normal campaign on UN

[brittle quest]

It's your choice I guess. I'd never touch UN in a hundred years. Why don't you do a balanced ng+ hammer randomiser run instead? Easier and more fun.

Also should be more fun to watch than base DE gameplay.

[azure oriole]

I want to get a successful run on video, never did on first place. Besides I'm starting to move away from doom content in general

[sacred dirge]

Do or do not.. there is no try

[azure oriole]

Gougaru, any Info on doom room progress?

Yeah I'd like to see that too

[brittle quest]

As a recommendation, if you go and make Titanfall 2 content instead I have a feeling you'll get more views simply because the community is starved and will watch anything.

[azure oriole]

I'll prolly make something out of Titanfall but I have a bunch of retro shooters I wanna cover

Also feel like trying out a horror game again

but yeah doom eternal right fellas

[burnt moss]

You need air control my friend

[brittle quest]

I was somehow attracted into playing DE today, did a few vanilla ML UN runs. Felt kind of great in all honesty, I play better after not playing for months.

[azure oriole]

I didn't played Doom eternal now, in like? 1month

[burnt moss]

Doom Redemption

[random vault]

hi floir

[azure oriole]

I prolly lost my skill now.