#doom-eternal
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Well the game was designed with controllers in mind so it makes sense that halo would be easier with a mouse
Yea but still it’s like an exponential difference imo.
Slow moving enemies + improved accuracy makes them ripe for headshots
I wonder has someone made something with mouse aiming and analog movement. That would be a cool setup.
There are some specific funky controller things that do that
Steamdeck also allows for this
That’s cool. Honestly the steam deck really is just a better switch
Been having. A blast with mine
And I haven’t even scratched the surface of what it can do
Also it runs linux which is cool cause I hate Windows.
But yeah what u mentioned about analog movment but mouse aiming is possible assuming the game doesn’t have something that messes it up
For instance halo doesn’t allow it ( but halo is a controller game anyways so doesn’t matter)
But when I played dread Templar I was able to use controller layout, but right touchpad as mouse aim
And i reckon doom eternal should support it
I agree it should support kb&m
🙄

Fuck.
Wait what
Equipment Fiend also works with Flaming Hook
WHAT
That’s op
"Dazed and confused", "Equipment Fiend" and "Blood Fueled" are find are the best runes in the game, acquired in that order
I just wish that the blue flashing would correctly represent the stagger time. Instead the speed is the same as a normal stagger, but the demon will stay stunned for much longer
air control equipment fiend and dazed and confused are my runes
Same
@neat dirge Welp it was nice knowing you
you can take either the easy way out or the hard way
if you do the bonus rounds at the end its going to be very difficult
Objectively best rune in the game. The fact you have to wait so long to get it in 2016 is actually painful.
@gray rivet Yeah air control works especially if you have the speed boost glory kill one
In general, it is not very difficult for me in the rounds where they put all the enemies in you, it is when I am afraid to die those 12 lives can be easily finished
🥱
Where doesn’t it help, basic movement feels awful without it imo.
CSI miami theme plays
i cant remember exactly what the final bonus rounds have but goddamn they are tough and if you dont have enough lives you'll probably get crushed
only thing i remember is a possesed marauder
@alpine plaza he is pain
4 turrets protecting a totem 😳
What’s up with the Holt and possessed marauders? Imagine if it had a master level.

I like how the turret shield is the only unique thing from horde
Um actually turrets are the best thing in the game 🤓
More then 1 pos mara is just fucking annoying so eh, hopefully no pos mara at all
Having 3 identical encounters is quite bad anyways
The turrets get a shields! That’s evil.
@slow sigil the possessed marauder is good and while the marauder is bad 🤓
also the ai doesnt work as intended when possesed
Biggest lie ever
its annoying
That's the point of the nerd emoji joke
no its not lol
Not really, you can also make a "ahum technically" joke with it and it'll fit more
you use kappa for that
I love it when you hit him point blank with an ssg and he doesn’t stun.
@waxen field Related
And the part where there are litterally possessed barons and 2 marauders
Hugo wanted payback for people complaining about TAG2
Turrents covering the buff totem, 3 archvilles
At least there’s no wall in front of the archies unlike a certain lvl.
@waxen field Not what most people do except hugo
holt slayer gate was painful
Optional encounter you can quite at any time so makes sense it's hard af
You shoulda seen it pre nerf.
I did it on console without bfg ammo on nightmare and it nearly broke me.
what did they nerf?
1 less archie, no carcasses with pos mara, 1 less random mara, 1 less bmaykr, bmaykrs turn up later or soemthing like that i thought
Honestly why play the last horde mode level
To have fun 
@slow sigil 
ouch
when i finished it i was shaking i cant imagine it being worse
An archvile no longer spawns after you kill one, one less blood maykr and they spawn separately rather than at once, carcasses no longer infinitely respawn, and a second marauder no longer spawns. This is in addition to blood maykrs/spirit nerfs. Though they added two hell nights.
There are carcasses but they don’t respawn now
Sorry I type quick
No respawning carcasses, missed a word
Has anyone here ever played ultra nightmare 
Stone carcasses when ?

That slayer gate is when I learned to properly use blood bunch, cryo, flame belch, the equipment rune, several combos from it and got much better at the game as a whole.
I think the it was perfect then tbh, I miss it. It made me a significantly better player.
Why did they make the first slayer gate hard
i dont want to even imagine how many time it took you
Which one?
@waxen field first
3 days
ouch
It was hard when I first played the game
i think i once spent a day and a half completing mars core ml
@alpine plaza on what difficulty
@alpine plaza dumb luck i guess
Honestly it was the most fun I had with the game and it didn’t feel as trolly as lets say trollas nabad where the game just throws you in a small room with buffed demons.
took me way less but the last arena made me sweat
@alpine plaza you know how to quickswap on console right?
yup
Only reason that room is hard is cause people dont have experience fighting buffed demons 
@waxen field what small room
Yea but a small room isn’t a great introduction to being forced to fight large amounts of them.
Oh nevermind
hello eternal chat. what was goin on here when I was gone? can i get fast recap?
There’s two the coin room and archvile room
@waxen field yeah I know before you fight the marauder twice
Talking about holt slayer gate now trollas nabad
discussing master levels and tag1
@azure oriole Yes I'll give you a quick one: Horde mode last arena bad and talk about I don't know
i havent played the taras nabad master level
I still miss that double spirit baron encounter
Damn I didn't not expect so many anwsers
but appreciate it.
@alpine plaza super gore nest is even worse
Honestly I thought it was easier, you get more space and there are less buffed demons
i finished it once on ultraviolence i think

took me a while but i cant compare until i actually play the taras nabad ml

Also can anyone give me tips on how to be good in the arena I'm good at quickswapping and ballista boosting etc but I struggle with nightmare mode
As in horde?
@waxen field Horde can work too
move a lot maybe
It's just the game in general
like not just move while staying in the same area
you have to always keep moving in different areas

also meathook


Always have air control, equipment rune is also great, if you struggle with aiming I’d recommend chrono but don’t get to used to having it as a crutch. Equip rune is great cause you can get some demons close together and freeze them, flame belch, then grenade or any other aoe.
Also learn weapon combos like freeze/falter, blood punch, ssg/ballista on a cyber mancubus.
The thing I struggle with is timing honestly I can't dodge enemies well
Also thanks for the cyber mancubus tip
If your ever surrounded shield is hella op
@waxen field I know that's why I use it
Also dashing is your friend obviously and falters are powerful.
I don't fine mobile torrent to be powerful on a heavy
Falter and dash thank you for your time human
Also tell us your leader
I want to quickswap on him
And "Dash"
Mayo has some good tutorials his falter video for example is very helpful at explaining that system.
Also don’t underestimate blood punch it’s very powerful.
@waxen field Thinking on doing that right now
Mayo sounds like a God he sure knows how to falter humans
Mayos only good videos are his falter tutorials an just Doom related videos in general. Some genuinely good tips in there when he’s not ranting about how every game should be DOOM Eternal or how every game was ruined by God of War
Yea his other vids are divisive though he isn’t the only one that doesn’t like the new god of war I have my own issues with it.
Like how the camera is stuck up your ass and how the higher difficulties are poorly designed.
I respect that he’s willing to say something other people might not agree with him with.
@midnight sparrow that Is what somebody said as well and I watched his videos as a begginer i think people say that just because they know the game more and got better
he has some very interesting opinions
@alpine plaza Full auto good, Unmakyr bad
his ULTRAKILL video was interesting to say the least, can’t tell if he likes it or hates it
yea but the full auto is good
you have to know when to use it but i find it more useful than the sticky bombs
It’s certainly better then say Charged Burst from 2016
@alpine plaza but the mastery is so hard and let's be honest you won't use it as often
You just forget the combat shotgun as a weapon even exists
isnt the mastery killing pinkies with it?
sticky good for clearing fodder,
Stone Imp Noises
Yea
It’s pretty trash before the mastery.
Can be sorta nice in the early levels after the buffs though.
its kinda worth it if you use it a lot
@midnight sparrow Sentinel Hammer and chainsaw Yells
Ok but like you won’t always have a thing of chainsaw fuel or a hammer charge. On top of that you get shotgun shells back
It’s basically the only reason it’s useable with how it eats up ammo.
True I kinda forgot the stone imp is weak to it
Sonic dash imp
Also the thought of an auto shotgun is just cool
Also stone imps spawn on two levels
There’s a mod that does this
(In horde mode)
Can’t argue with that it’s hella satisfying.
They fit better thematically in World Spear and Reclaimed Earth then Immora imo
I mean the full auto makes you very slow and it has dogshit aim for me it's a average weapon
That Immora finale still irks me
Even though the movement nerf was removed as of the latest version of the game pretty sure
It was buffed so it’s not that bad now
The Dark Lord fight could have been better for sure should have fought him in DLC
Wait since when 
if there is ever an update for doom eternal again i hope its an immora master level/ re done dark lord boss fight
Since like TAG2
We did fight him in dlc
@waxen field how was the experience buddy
Fuck meant to say we shouldn’t have fought him in the DLC my bad. Should have saved him for a full fledged game.
How would you rate it satisfied, very satisfied, really satisfied, Awesome
Yea I knew that’s what you meant but it was funny.
I agree though, he’s just a worse gladiator.
Yes
@waxen field NANI!
Worse gladiator and oversized Marauder
Though the Marauder is easily more fun then him
He is literally just a big marauder, he even summons dogs
@midnight sparrow would you agree khan makyr was better
Yes
icon of sin is best boss imo
@shell radish Because of his ass
The Icon of Sin was better then Samur and Davoth for sure
🤤
Lets take the gladiator make him easier, more tedious, give you less options, and add in a stupid twist. Truly brilliant.
The longer the icon of sin is on earth the more cooler he is than lord
@alpine plaza who wouldn't want to clap those giant cheeks buddy
The Marauders gimmick is cool but for a boss fight it just doesn’t work. I wanna throw everything I got at Davoth not wait from him to waddle awkwardly towards me and either actually attack me or steal my health.
khan maykr is good but you can delete her in like 2s
Gladiator worked with this mechanic cause his attacks where engaging and fun to dodge
@midnight sparrow Agree
gladiator reminds me of a souls boss a little bit
Have a nice day
opinions on samur
Sin will the become on the earth icon is longer of stronger come he the
Fun fight overall fuck the Possessed Pain Elemental though
the fight was good but it felt a bit recicled
he’s a fun fight
@waxen field The longer the icon of sin is on earth the more clappable his cheeks are
The longer the icon of sin is on the Earth, the thiccer he becomes
Waifu of the year
The Samur fight blends the perfect level of difficulty together and it hits just right though again that Possessed Pain Elemental can go die
Those cheeks coulda destroyed the twin towers
@midnight sparrow Khan makyr but spirited
@waxen field the demonic butt plug is the only way
Would just make her a fast bullet sponge. Would be horrible thank god she’s not programmed to be able to be possessed
A character like him NEEDS an entire game to himself otherwise he just doesn't work
Bfgx2= near dead spirit buffed pain elemental
@midnight sparrow also I hate her shield thing
possesed icon of sin 🤯 😯
L Vega
The father is usurping you
Especially considering how important he is to the lore. Davoth is the one Doomguy was after the whole time and all Davoth does in his grand boss fight is waddle around in power armor
🙂
Yea don’t know why I was fighting my character from fallout 4
Doomguy wasnt really after davoth this whole time, he just so happened to find him and was like "oh shit this fucker is important"
Who was he after then? The plot?
@slow sigil Who the hell is davoth
Guess what I’m saying is that Davoth is the ruler of Hell so would make sense Doomguy would be itching to kill the guy who leads the guys he really hates
Doom Guy’s edgy younger brother
Noone in particular, the khan and the priests during the campaign. Doomguy mostly kills demons so demons die and can't kill humans
The dork lord
Well yeah but it's unclear if davoth actually ruled hell, considering there where multiple dark lords throughout hell's history
@slow sigil nothing to say about your creator
No
(Drops mic)
Actually the dark lord is a fun boss and a well writed character 🤓
Well judging from the Codex I’m going to infer until stated otherwise that he was the first Dark Lord considering him being The Father and all
And also VEGA saying he is the leader of Hells armies at the end of TAG1
So he is
VEGA was put in place as a fake father after the Khan Maykr betrayed Davoth
Vega took on the titel of "the father" after couping davoth
He is, but idk if he really ruled hell after his disposel
Lots of that end dialoque is fucked with tag2 lore
"He is you... from their world" well apperently fucking not 
@slow sigil so what your saying is funny guy killed bad guy
He had a tiny bit of influence probably but for the most part it was probably the other Dark Lords
Not killed, just removed his power and turned him into a dragon ball
What I don’t get is in 2016 he needed a giant ass facility to run and then doom guy just pops him into a usb and carries around like it’s nothing.
Doomguy put vega inside the entirety of the slayer fortress, the usb is just his mind being saved on it but nothing more
That line right there made me think Doomguy was a clone for the longest time DAMN YOU HUGOOO 
But still it’s no where near as large
Fuck
It's not likr the usb needs to RUN vega, it only needs to save him
Yea but how can the fortress run that
Sentinels are much more advanced and it's helped made by makyrs
Do I have to read to understand TAG
Well noone understands it sooo
FUCK
Didn’t Samuel still have that knowledge when making vega processing.
Tbh I’m putting way to much though into this.
Wdym
Samuel coulda used his maykr knowledge. Then just say he invented it.
Samual wasnt around then
revenant is the best doom character change my mind
So they got vega then Samuel
Doomguy and samual arent on the bestest terms after 2016
No I mean the humans not doom guy building the big processor for vega
And the fortress is made with makyr technology, what vega is native though considering he practically is a makyr bot himself
Oh that. Well that's exactly what samual did then i thought
Apparently I’m spamming?
Too many emotes maybe idk
It was text, maybe it was cause I copied down something I wrote earlier?
Is that three warning thing actually permanent? Vega doesn’t seem very intelligent.

I guess vega doesn’t like either copy pasting regardless of context or several explanation points weird. Bad Vega.
can i stop being fucking ghost pinged
Maybe it’s Vega I tried to reply to the comment and it freaked out.

What’s that?
zhongli classic joke that he's a geodaddy
Who’s he?
Genshin Impact Zhongli does that say something to you?
Nah I know literally nothing about that game and Vega is the first boomer to exist so he doesn’t know.
dang
Don’t use explanation points too much I think Vega has a fear of that.
Vega has a fear of that.
Welp it definitely isn’t copy paste, interesting.
I finally beat doom eternal :)
Noice. You should try dlcs if you can they’re pretty good.
I plan on it, it was pretty darn frustrating tho, I did it on nightmare, it took me sooooo long
Yea nightmare on a first playthrough is brutal.
The 1st dlc is harder, however the 2nd one is easier.
Oh nice, rn I'm gonna try and get all trophies and what not, I tried it on doom 2016 but it got repetitive after soooo much dying, might try for it again tho
Be warned there are multiplayer trophies. Also there are dlc and horde trophies.
There are milestones too but unless you want to beat the base game and dlcs on un I’d avoid the pain.
Not to mention master levels.
Oh dang, sounds hard, but I'm up for it, my dad will probably watch me too, he loves doom, he played it when it first came out, and he's played most of the games until doom 2016 and external, but he's watched me play them, I guess it's kinda our bonding thing lol
That’s cool. The multiplayer is definitely different from the single player.
I haven’t touched it so I don’t know any tips though there are probably some on YouTube and there’s a discord for it linked on the main menu (not sure of how active it is though never went there).
Eh I'll figure it out
Welp Rip and Tear till it is done!
Nice one
Good mornin'
i dont say good morning.
I say goose morning
Get it?
Holy moly when did they asd that server icon/background or wutever!? I have to draw that rn
how do you get stretch res
Tried that got sucked into the game, help!
Can’t speak now there is a very angry Hell Knight
bad
I kinda feel bad for killing the marauder boss before he even got a chance to hit me more than once
Then again he is a marauder so..
nicde pfp
ah..uh..run..?
So I tried the meat hook jump off an imp, but I fall down so fast I dont even have time to aim and shoot...
have you tried the chrono thingy rune
Nope, but was about to
Tho it's not active all the time
And it has a longer cooldown than meat hook
So I can't use it on every jump
And it's not like the jump brings me that far up either by itself that is
1 or 2 sec of falling and I'm already on the ground. And falling start almost immediately after I jump
because It's a game and it has things called physics.
what you think that if you would jump you would have low gravity or smth like that?
Yes, so how do I stay in the air ?
git gud Ig
air control
stable movement
use meathooks to your adv
staying practically infinite in the air is fairly hard and bit impracticable, but just touch the ground to restart dash and that's it
Stable movement ? Is that a rune or something?
I'm talking about your movement
I already use air control
for you to keep it in place
And kinda hard to use meathook when its on cooldown with no aerial enemies around
I can maybe shoot 1 or 2 time with the chronos rune but that's about it
Might need to do it on bigger enemies tho
Still not really practical
I wish mick gordon would release the doom eternal soundtrack on Spotify :c
And on a cd/vinyl
wait people still use vinyl? I thought vinyl records were just a collector’s thing now lol
Damn never knew that lol
The reverberation is key
The doom eternal soundtrack?or the 2016 one?
Because I remember the 2016 soundtrack being on both vinyl and cd
It’s also on Spotify
IDK if this is a hot take but
I only listen to music on Spotify or YT lol
Doom Slayer was cooler to me when he wasn’t an immortal god man, back when he could actually lose a fight.
That’s fair
I prefer the new Doomslayer but I can see why people prefer the one that could lose a fight lol
Thats what made it cool, he didn’t care that the odds were entirely against him, he just went in guns blazing.
But with his insane god strength I would basically compare the Doom Slayer fighting demons to me stepping on ants. Its cool to watch in Doom Slayer’s case, but not impressive.
Fr, I just like the idea of a man that is just too angry to die lol
i mean, he can still lose as you see ingame
hell literally evolved to beat him better
I wouldn’t say gameplay perfectly reflects canonical events.
Yea but that’s just cause you screw up, if you do things right you can go on an absolute rampage
but it does though
not 100%, but mostly
Well yeah, a good example would be this:
Why don’t buildings get damaged when the Slayer shoots them? Are environmentalists canonically indestructible?
Dopefish is Immortal now, except for specific circumstances like getting exploded by a barrel.
My bad it’s a 2016 vinyl
Damn I was thinking of getting vinyl for once lol
I might still cause 2016
Look in screenshots I put a pic of the songs listed
heello
Btw how many mission is there in tag1 and how many in tag2 ?
I'm on the 3rd one oon tag1 and was wondering how many there is for that dlc and for tag2 dlc
Oh there is only 3 in tag 1 ?
Ah and 4 in tag2
Btw what's the timing on the meat hook jump ?
Levels themselves are bigger so it's not really "just"
Any time you are hooking
Is it while I connect to the monster or b4 that
The entire time you're connected
K cause I tried it off an imp and didn't go the far in midair
Do taller monster provide me with more heightb?
If I hook into their heads
For exemple hook jumping a tyrant vs an imp
No idea, also you can't really "aim" meathook to land on 1 bodypart like that
Iek maybe it's fps dependent
Cause by the time I jump and fall back to the ground, the meathook isn't back until I hit the ground
Well yeah, game doesnt have airhacks like that lol
So it's not like I can meaahook 1 enemy and jump and then hook jump another to get more height
No you can't just stay infinitely in the air like that
Didn't Bloodshot do it in a video?
You can double jump after, bal under you, and dash to extend it to near infinite ofc
Then that means you can't stay mid-air to long enough to do a couple of slow quickswitch combo
Yah but he speed at which you gonna make you not be able to shoot that much , maybe 1 shoot at most
Actually, he used ballista boost to keep himself in air
What boost ?
You still drop at the same speed
U can't really shoot mods than maybe 1 shot b4 u hit the floor
With chronos rune maybe u can fit 2
The point is, it is possible. Do you need to do it? No.
But it's not enough for quick switching mid air aim and shoot without the chronos rune, and even then
Ballista gives you momentum in the oppsite side of where you shoot, so shooting down pushes you up
AH
Aiming and shooting are 1 thing
Well tbh, I can't even shoot the ssg right after I meat hook
I fall too fast for me to shoot mid-air tbh
If you double jump, can you still shoot before hitting the ground then?
I’m currently playing the ancient gods 2 DLC, am at the very beginning, and the green wolf doesn’t want to jump in the fire thingy, why?
I can maybe shoot 1 shot of the ssg because I already have it equiped, and even then I fall so fast that I'm nearly touching the ground when I do
This guy playing in double gravity fr
So unless there an aerial enemy, I can't really stay in the air lol
Or unless I only use balista
I mean you can also dash you know, removes air momentum
Got no time for quick switching unless I use batista to push me up
Displaces my aim so I have to readjust if I do that
I mean either you quickswitch slow af or the game has double gravity for you
Which may as well render the dash useless
Yeah, not that much
stable distance and angle change
Or do you have like a sensitivity of 7
I have enough to do a 180 degree turn
With 1 hand movement
Tbh usually I just use jump pad
Don't know why but I stay in the air longer if I use those
Meathook doesn't bring me as far as a jump pad tbh
In term of height
When I use a jump pad then ye I can maybe do a quick switching combo b4 touching the ground
Yeah but you can bring meathook wherever
Even with better with the chronos rune
That's more then you will ever need for anything
Except Meathook doesnt bring you as high up as a jump pad
Chronos slows everything down so it's a trade off
Sure you're "longer" in the air.... but you are barely doing shit too
Wdym ?
No but it does bring you like 3/4s of the way
I’m currently playing the ancient gods 2 DLC, am at the very beginning, and the green wolf doesn’t want to jump in the fire thingy, why?
180° is fully behind you, when would you ever need to turn fully behind you and what
Cause the doggy is buggy af, just jump around him for a while and reload save and pray it happens
Been doing that for about 20 minutes
I mean whenever there is enemy behind me I supposed ?
Yeah, then turn 
I aim
without taking like 7 seconds to find a mancubi
Take me maybe 1 or 2 second to aim short range
Maybe 1sec if I enemies are close together
Still
You wanna aim like, near .2 seconds once you notice an enemy is in the 50% middle part of your screen
I meant moving camera + shoot
Yeah, that's pretty much 1 thing
Like move camera behind me + shoot kinda thing
Aim means nothing if you arent taking the darn shot
Camera takes most of that time tbh
If you gotta FULLY look behind you then yeah maybe an extra .7 seconds to properly aim in total
Camera movement take maybe 1 sec or close to that whenever I need to move camera
Sheez
And dats like half the time
I mean if you have 100% accuracy uhhh ig good job
I'm not
Ouch
Nothing happens
Pray harder to vega then
It's not, idk i just take a rough estimate
Could always try a aim trainer tbh
Nah
Then suffer
78.95% accuracy
In a 34,2sec test
On aim trainer .io
Hitted 30 target
This was the easy difficulty
Speed was 1.10 t/s whatever that means
And that wasn't on my own setup cause I'm at work, It's break time atm
ok
Time per shot i think
So, might a bit higher If I used my own setup
Might be able to get 1t/s
Is it bad ?
Idk how those aim training sites work
Could always check them
Aim trainer .io without the space
Literally the 2nd link on Google when you type aim trainer
Incorrect, you gotta put your Aspect Ratio to 4:2
And then the doggg just jumps in normally
Sometimes he’s fps tied
Could always just do the cool speedrunner strat and use the Hell Knight giblets to trigger the thing instead of the wolf 
In the mission where you shoot a hole into the surface of mars in UN
Everything is going smoothly so far again
All I fear as of now, is that boss with the shield
I am going to start my nightmare play through then ultra nightmare any tips?
Have you learned how to quick switch yet?
180 is valuable for ballista boosting and for continuing to engage an enemy after jumping over him
You have my curiosity
So it's actually one of my favorite skips simply because of how ridiculous it is AND for how it was found.
Someone completely random showed up in the Discord, said "guys dunno how but I skipped the first wolf, the 2nd fight triggered early". Problem was even with noclip we couldn't get the wolf to do anything so we assumed the guy was trolling or mistaken (he hadn't provided more info).
He later says "oh I have footage" and so we watch and sure enough he did get it to work. It was kind of obtuse but after investigation I found out not only how he did it but a semi consistent way to trigger it.
That resulted in this:
The idea is that the wolves in Doom Eternal are in the same list of entities as enemies are, so most likely if an enemy's hit box hit the trigger the wolf triggers, it could also trigger the fight. We abuse this by cutting the head off of a Hell Knight to have its head trigger the fight early, skipping the wolf.
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Your score is irrelevant. If you’re having trouble playing the game, then there is something to fix. When I began the Journey of the Meathook (incorporating it into my play) I had to adjust controls and sensitivity. You sound new, so perhaps you’re using default binds?
Someone did find out that instead of doing the "head chop glory kill", killing the Hell Knight while it's ice bombed will cause it to shatter and fall through the floor, making the trick muuuuch easier/more consistent
But for a little while we actually tried to "aim a decapitated head" for a skip like this XD
Actual use for FA no way
I dunno it's the weird-ass shit like this that makes speedrunning cool.
XD unironically I used it because I knew it wouldn't kill the HK too fast

Why is there a trigger beneath the map though?
We don't actually know the specifics but our best guess
Cause that was easy to do
When the wolf "jumps into the fountain" it simply falls beneath the map and triggers.... Something
This actually also works in the 2nd fountain in world spear, but there aren't hell knights or dread knights there
Sounds easy to do so why not
But someone playing rando got a DK to jump into the fountain and it worked XD
Programming the fight like that

It seems to only trigger off of wolves (obviously), and hell/dread knights. We haven't looked TOO much into it but we don't think Whiplashes can trigger it. Or at the very least we can't kill them in a way that triggers it
Can't you just spawn one under the altar and try
Dead demons don’t clip through the ground, so why through the fountain?
But yeah this is a top 5 skip/glitch of all time for me just cause of how WEIRD it is. Cause World Spear seems to be the ONLY time we can do this
They probs can barely through the fountain top? Idk
Some things just "do" clip through the floor. If you do the head chop glory kill anywhere in that arena the head falls through the floor
Same with some of the giblets when it's killed while frozen apparently
Actually there's a funny spot in SGN, in the first totem fight. If you go "above" where the yellow key card physically is, and look down, you'll see a mess of tendrils but you can just barely see the key card.
Any bullet/projectile, such as BFG or frags, can just shoot through these tendrils, but you and demons can't pass through it
Maybe it’s to keep the heads from lying around cuz it’s creepy
And these tendrils don't ever "open". Though it LOOKS like they could. So it's theorized that that was something left over
That could be. My honest guess is it'd be more work to create a mesh for the separated head, for what would basically go "unnoticed" since the bodies decay after a few seconds anyways
Tbh we have 0 actual clue, we just know "this works" and we have our best guesses, really.
What I wouldn't give to have a conversation with the devs at id to just discuss WHY these things work the way they do
Without mesh, there’s nothing there to make contact though right?
It depends on how things are coded. Consider that the wolves are "spectral" and probably don't have a mess so that they don't impede the slayers movement (although they might idunno)
So the trigger is about proximity and not physical contact
Some checks might not care about an actual physical mesh. Think about all the "checkpoint" triggers based on just walking into the next room, only the Slayer is "physical", whatever triggers the checkpoint isn't.
Take note of where you die. And on your UN playthrough you can prepare for those encounters
Wonder if a grenade could drop in the fountain
Better yet, don’t
That's a good question actually. My guess is no, because I think "bullets" are different from "giblets"... But really it's a crapshoot 
Oh yea?
Cause tbh I'm not even sure if bullets and grenades are the "same", code wise
I know ballista and PB are the sole "hit scan" weapons that work exactly as you'd imagine. Shotgun and SSG are maybe hit scan but they don't trigger the shots through water in Taras, so I think they're just really fast projectiles
Yup.
Orrrrr
Maybe they're hitscan but because they're pellets they're coded different... Which is why chaingun also doesn't work cause it technically fires 4 bullets in a really tight spread .
Fuck I really wish I could just look at the source code and just... Learn
Satisfy my morbid curiosity
“Daddy, where do bullets come from?”
wait when did i get a gold bfg skin
Tag2
what
Wdym what
you're good
I was saying when he dies in his nightmare playthrough, to take note of his deaths there
Oh I know. I was being obnoxious
Understandable
#UNnecessary
Bahaha
Doom taught me that just because you’re challenged to do something, doesn’t mean it’s worth doing.
Well in that case I agree
But if you don't do the challenge then your pp is smol 
F'real though your mentality is the right mentality to have, no sense in doing something if you tried and it didn't feel rewarding/fun etc.
UN is my goal
I wish you luck on it, you can definitely achieve it
there's also nothing wrong with not doing it (not saying you in particular, just in general). Game is game, should be fun 😛
Thanks
what's one of the most annoying demons in doom eternal
Got doom eternal a few days ago
Costed 15€
Best purchase of my life
in your opinion's about any demon what's the most annoying one to yall
Yes I know I’m not as good as PC players since I am Xbox
It's possible to be as good as pc players on console
I will that is something I will need to remember
Archiviles. Specifically when I don’t know where they teleported or spawned at. Tyrants guns make kinda annoying noises.
I still need to learn a lot
On ps4 btw
Yes archviles!
It's a fun process!
It isn't (for Swapping at least), only as much as limited control surfaces allows. BHopping is also a bit harsh due to no Mwheel, but single dashes and meathook movement can be done comparatively well.
To get UN do I have to make a new game to get it or can I just beat it on a previous save
Complete new save, it gets deleted if you die.
normal doom players are like "this is a hard level." Veterans of doom Drinking a cold drink while using one hand and slaughtering all the demons in there path: "This is easy."
Well I mean to unlock it
You just start a new save, can be done as the first thing you do after purchasing the game.
Coolesz thing is that i got free stuff because i bought doom 1 and 2
Beating the campaign is a great first step
I can agree with that but the most annoying thing to me is the Pinky demon
I suppose you are correct, but a controller player can get quite close
Sorry for misspelling btw
English is not my first language
I always thought Pinkies were cute. They’re friendly pets.
Correct, but having realistic expectations prevents disappointment. Also the fact that if you're playing on last gen consoles capped at 60, you'll definitely be handicapped quite a bit. Not as much as a night and day difference, but it is noticeable.
agreed
excuse me WHAT
also have yall noticed that there are no death animations for when you die in doom eternal but there are many death animations in doom 2016
is their any doom that can play coop?
as soon as you die in doom eternal you just exploder
If its local the first too i think
I don't think there is
only doom 2d
im doing tag2 UN rn, and lost my saving throw during last fight of reclaimed earth, about to fight dark lord
oh mk
Be careful, you got this
I mean, DE does have Coop mods.
They aren't very challenging since AI doesn't know how to handle multiple people, but they exist.
i wish it were co-op still though i miss snap maps
DE's death could've been avoided by snap-map 😔
it was cool put super hardcore mode and go with friends as team kill some 
i agree, while this is def one of my fav games of all time, its constant content droughts and single player only experiences made me stop playing it for months at a time, as usually id do all the stuff and be stuck with a "now what" including horde mode
Honestly we're lucky we even got such a decent modding scene for the game. Not that I don't want something similar to snap map (Lord knows I want Speedrun maps) but I'm at least happy we got SOMETHING.
I still remember the "drought" between campaign and TAG1, and the only thing that kept most people's interest was Proteh's first Taras slaughter map, and more importantly, Proteh's Horde Mode.
I was just peacefully playing Mars Core ML on Nightmare and encountered an Archvile that was immune to knockbacks and Lock-On just refused to hit him
When did Archie get a massive buff?
It’s so that eternal can load faster between deaths
Glitch, it’s happened to me before on UN
Archie probably got bored of people bullying him so he decided to break the game
i had a bug during taras nabad where i had to fight 2 marauders, and they refused to do the green eye thing so i had to kill them using only splash damage was annoying as hel
hell*
Yeah, Marauder is a cool enemy, but his AI is just......strange
Oh god. Ik that sticky bombing their feet is a viable strategy it just sounds plain annoying and tedious
Killing with only splash damage in general sounds annoying and tedious
The marauder got a small sticky bomb resistance some updates ago
yeah i did kill them, and died later in the fight so it was for nothing, luckily after my death it fixed the bug
so it was easy rolling after
usually when thereds more than 1 marauder i just throw grenades until one of them gets separated from the other then i hard focus the 1
what rank do you get the star under your name plate?
The Marauders green eyes flash gimmick is cool and all but I feel like any enemy with a gimmick afterwards was either just a slight variation of the Marauders or just plain sucks
Cursed Prowlers suck
Armored Barons are just slower Marauders
Davoth is just an oversized Marauder
A lot of enemies are just recolors of others with some weird gimmick tied to them
I think after you surpass lvl 250?
Hola,Alguien Que Hablé Español?
Thanks
i think the cursed prowler couldve been its own demon tbh
The “Chaingunners” and “Screechers” could have been better
Screechers should have had their own model
Chaingunners did not need that invincible shield only vulnerable to splash damage gimmick
They where trying to hard to make new enemies fit the “Use everything you have” mindset Eternal has
You mean a shield that actually works? I think it makes sense, esp for an expansion DLC
I know that mindset can be a bit annoying but it also leads to new strategies we never would have used.
I don’t think they needed a shield at all. I know it would be boring to some people, but having like 2 bullet sponges isn’t horrible. It’s only horrible when every enemy is like that
i think the only demons that couldve been there own thing is cursed prowler and screecher
the other reskins are fine i think
also just beat tag2 UN, got all the UN's (besides master levels) in my pocket now.
Sick!
I think spirits being dead summoners was weird
for skins ill never wear because i like classic slayer
I don’t hate the fact I have to use splash damage but feels like they where grasping at straws for TAG2
Agreed. Felt kind of like a cheap "lookit this very vague 2016 reference" without it really being a real "reference", just a reused model
Yeah... if you wanted to toss them in the game that would have been fine with me.
Summoners could have had a unique mode as well ngl
Well I do think there’s a difference between marauders, armored barons, and bloodmaykrs (which you didn’t mention). Armored barons have a longer vulnerable window and rarer/more difficult flashes so there’s a frantic barrage as you attempt to one-cycle them. Whereas marauders are a bit lower-stakes. And of course bloodmaykrs are stoplights but they emphasize accuracy over endurance.
I have a demon design idea.
demon idea: big chungus. very epic
Giant bat that rushes you. Same base anatomy and behavior as a Hellknight but with wings. Makes Caco look pacifist.
Lookin like a double-wide surprise
I think they should make the Archies into Old Greg
Hjk
seen it before 🤣. unfortunately im on console so i can only dream of big chungus in eternal 🤘😞
And whenever he summons more demons he does so by yelling “IM OLD GREEEEG”
im old greg, such a wierd video lmao. so niche i love it
Glad you got the reference. Otherwise people would think I’m weird
I want Doomguy to be Goofy
And the Carcass to be Dwight from the Office
Every time he spawns a shield he’ll be like “FALSE”
Oh and make the Revenant into Kramer from Seinfeld
Just tried it, works

Despite what I said I don’t actually mind Armored Barons essentially reusing what Marauders do. Armored Barons are fun to fight and their design is cool. I also forgot about the Blood Maykrs
any of you guys know where I can get the doom 64 cosmetic pack?
I really wanna buy it
Armored barons..
I just got the bfg
They're only in dlc
Can someone help me with a game crash on DOOM Eternal? I can't launch the game at all because of it
"Failed to allocate video memory"
I tried looking up for solutions and couldn't find any elaborated help
You probably dont have enough VRAM
Must’ve patched out the angry buttsex
Are pretty cool.
Yes very
it's burns how you use white
What
how do you use white background it's burning my eyes
I have both dlcs
Can I not lower the settings in a way to fix this?
I can run DOOM 2016 just fine but I can't even launch this game
It’s a screenshot from this app. What color is your background and how do you change it?
App settings -> Appearance
mine black
Dume
is their a moment u get a sword?
Crucible blade?
There is no sword. There is no moment. There is no doom
heheh she didn't know you had the demonic crucible
Hello guys, is there anyone who have done the "Float like a butterfly" miletstone which requires staying in the air for 50 secs at once?
no idea saw on some video he put something into lava and turn into sword
It’s not at once, it’s cumulative
yus this one i want cut with it 😄
Yeah you get the crucible blade in eternal
Taras nabad (level 8)
😱 aw it will take time
Sorry, 9
I just finished lvl 7
I've done it with some people helping me in private room
it just didnt work I had 20 secs after the game it was still 20secs and I have had float like 2min more
Why do you hate furries 🤔
Why do people wanna be animals
Idk why so hateful though
You seem like the person to say "hate is a strong word"
Im just asking lmao
Bro I had the Kahn maker on 2 blood punches left and I died
It’s their preference, who are you to decide their preferences
My dog has a pretty amazing life I don't blame him. We out here paying taxes
Thanks! I’m trying dark now
There’s only soup
Did I miss something?
Nope, he randomly asked me
I missed alot.
I played so much genshin that I don't even talk here only at night
How did he know?
Don't know why he was checking out my profile
also Hi Volden
Hi!
Maybe bc my epic pfp
You can hate someone’s choice and still acknowledge it’s theirs to make
W sentence
No, i usually check doom eternal pfps, theyre the weirdest,
Nice pfp
Like, we get it, you’re a masochist
thank
Better
when ppl check my pfp they say I should smck myself
🟣
🔴
Waltuh
I was wondering why you said hi to me
Didn’t know it was you
cuz I like greeting ppl
😳 ???
I have talked to Lady Stella. I never talked to Raiden Shogun and then Raiden was saying hi every time we were in chat together.
Check my profile 😳
Basically Lady Stella changed name to Raiden and I thought Raiden was a stranger when saying hi to me all the time.
😳
I never check profiles so I didn’t know until your comment about your profile
You alright?
Maybe?
for a person who had his account hacked 2 times. within a month maybe?
bro...
I'm not fine I slept only 2hours
anyway...
my profile is just a big lore shit.
I had drama all day and i feel tired of everything, theres worse
ec is general v2 at night

I'm gonna play it rn
I only get to play 90 minute sessions, it kinda sucks
Unless my friend responds to me so we can play phasmaphobia
I'd like 3 or 4 hours
Nutmilk is eternal
That seems to be the case, yes
I am everpresent
Yes I have seen nutmilk when I first came to this server in February
I've been here since 2019👴
Niice
I've been here since 2022 4months ago
I'm dissapointed I didn't get into Doom earlier.
same
I knew about it, but I Didn't know it was this good.
such an amazing community
I've been here for about a year now
I've seen people come and go get banned or fuck off. But some people like nutmilk have been around
Though it feels like a decade
This server will do that to you
Spent covid with alot of amazing people in this server. Helped through the hard times
Yea I bet that was cool
I've spent covid learning english
Wow that's pretty interesting
Who got the game phasmaphobia
you do 🤣
Loses anyway
How can I change the keybind for BFG9000
It’s in the settings
Nice
Holy that was hard-ish
Uh, no
That could have halped, but then again idk your playstyle
I just run around using my trusty hot swap
Nice, what are you thoughts about the weapon?
||untill you use it
||
I meant to ask, after you use it on some daemons
Can't say, I haven't started Nekravol yet (thanks to school) but I briefly used it in TAG 1, and I accidentally pulled it out thinking it was some rare vfg mod like a collectable. Know better now obviously.
Bfg*
It’s the best gun in the game 
Man, I’m over here needing two keys
What weapons should I use for the Gladiator
That’s alright, take your time
Preferably chaingun shield and precision bolt mod for the heavy cannon
K
I just shot it until it died, tried and true way to kill demons and gods
I found the gladiator quite annoying
Beat him
i just used precision bolt and ballista
One more key till unmakyr
with a pinch of lock-on rockets too
although I'm unsure if thats super effective against him now that I think about it
Which you would say is a better doom eternal experience
- Being new to the game and being able to figure out all the secrets and tricks
- Being very good and being able to devastate the demons
I can't get campaign running, I just purchased the game and didn't receive the "campaign dlc" so whenever I click on campaign I cannot play it. and I get redirected to the steam store
Damn. Wish I could help but I'm on ps4 so I'm no luck to you
Being very good
If you dont know the tricks, the game will often be very harsh and not very fun and you can get overwhelmed
I definitely felt like that when I first played
But now whenever I get a bunch of heavy and super heavy demons in oen arena I'm like "is it my birthday or something?"
Did you know the super shotgun 2 shots a mancubi
If ur really really close
Kill it!
It's usually better to do SSG pb SSG against Mancubi because that guarantees the kill, whereas 2 SSG only puts it into gk (and may even miss that threshold if you're too far away and pellets miss and what not)
Mancubi are dangerous and nasty
I love doing it to arachnotrons too
It's not hard, you literally meathook toward them and then SSG pb SSG.
As long as you do the SSG soon enough the damage from SSG falters then briefly. Alternatively make sure you jump/shoot and THEN jump, and you'll be in the air so it can't do the ground slam
Bro I hate that archvile

archvile sucks
That's not to say it's safe to do, there'll be situations where a manc can shoot you as you meathook or whatever. But generally it's not that unsafe either.
moment i see archvile he gets the bfg im not dealing with him
Manc
Archies are just 2 lock on bursts to kill plus a frag/ice bomb to prevent them from running 
Arch is fun to combo on tho
Good idea
yeah my issue is I sometimes scrape a pinky toe on a leaf and I get annihilated by the ground slam
hate when that happens
Archvile is that enemy that bad players hate and good players love because of the challenge they give
im a good player who still hates him
he is stupid and was a pain in my ass when i started doom
and sometimes I forget if I soft staggered the mancubus within 5 seconds before trying the combo so the first ssg does nothing and I die
i really need to learn to use 12345 cause my scroll wheel is just too slow for the weapon switching required
Shoot his weak point is what I'd suggest next, then
I usually go for the weak points if killing it isnt the first thing I plan to do in a fight
otherwise I just cut to the chase and do the ssg+pb+ssg and its gone almost instantly
I never target Mancubi weak points tbh... Is it beneficial to even do that?
They're not exactly accurate either way
do the snake guys have weakpoints? they're the most annoying enemy ive found so far
I find it handy to keep it off my butt if there's a more urgent situation
They don't
any advice other than using ice grenades then
I'm pretty sure you can just meathook up to their face, then SSG and ballista
dont got ballista yet what's ssg stand for?
I think that puts them in glory kill state but I'm not 100% sure if I remember that right
But they don't offer a challenge to good players? 🤣
They literally die in 2 seconds because unlike other enemies they just stand still and take whatever abuse
SSG = Super Shotgun
Just use the lock-on-burst mod on the rocket launcher to kill them then
Yeah, it's arguably the best way to deal with them
Yeah, that's the point. Good players like the challenge
Deletion
Although, you don't exactly have too many rockets unless you chainsaw someone soon after, so don't entirely rely on one mod to deal with them
Sure
ice bomb + 2x lock on
rip
maybe a bit of peppering afterwards depending on suit upgrade
would be cool if they ran around as well as teleported
like bigger meaner prowlers
wish we got more unique demons and able to fight titans
I never found Prowlers to be that dangerous tbh
I can see how fighting a titan could work
Any tips for last doom gate
Unfortunately I don't even remember the last Slayer Gate in details, so I can't give you any tips
Hopefully someone else can
Just got the slayer key
Hmm, if I can remember, I guess it starts with Archvile, 2 PE, and some Arachnotrons, then prowlers, then whipslashes, then Tyrant, then Mancubi
I hope that's right, because I lack the memory of TN SG.
Anyways, Ice bomb the Archvile and use LOB 2x, SSG + Ballista Pain Elementals and Arachnotron (Or any combo). And then either use Destroyer Blade on Prowlers (If they're lining up) or SSG Meathook or other choices, and then Lock on Burst (Or any combo) the Whipslash. Then use SSG + PB until the Tyrant is dead, and then SSG + Ballista/PB the Mancubi
shoot things until they die
Once the shield is down, any combo should kill it after a short while
Hi I’m new to the game but how do you get skins in the game ?? And how is everyone
And guns
The marauder is the opposite 
Copius amounts of microtransactions
Hi Doom guy

So what do we talk about
Dinosaurs
Nice I like the trex
How do you feel about the new feather design
For what ?
Hello doomguy
Its funny how almost everyone here who says they're new already has a doom pfp
They’re new to the server
Last slayer gate way easier than I thought

Noo I’m new to the gn and stuff like I don’t know any of this stuff srry
nothing to be sorry about its fine
I was completely new to Discord so I had to create my account just to come in here.
No
Ok but I’m new to the game I started about a week ago tho I’m ngl
So how do we get like guns and skins
I just got the Unmakyr
What’s that
Last gun
Well, about weapons, You'll get weapons in specific mission.
About skins, it's either do challenges, buy it, etc.
Well, it's on the game store, duh.
Ooo ok srry my fault
You can also get some from events (kinda like a battle pass but no payment for like a deluxe version of it)
Yeah, it's okay
My favorite skin so far is the hotdog set for the mancubus
Picklebus
I don’t even play battle mode, I grinded XP for it just to have it
My favorite is the rapper pain elemental
So damn stupid, I hope the person who made that gets a raise
Do u have a pic ?
No, but it’s in the current event
Like lvl 11 in it I think
Aw I'm lvl 9
An event tab is in the main menu
Oh yea
I must add you can also get skins from other games like ultimate doom and doom 2
You just need to be logged in the same account in the Unity version of those games in eternal
O ok but How do we unlock the stuff tho
..I just explained it
You just need to boot up the game and be logged into the same account as the one in eternal in the Unity port of the game
Bethesda account, forgot to mention that
Nooo for the event
O ok thx
Also, I must tell you something if you’ve never played doom. Some boss enemies become normal ones
O o ok
Have you used the unmaykr on any daemons yet?
Yes
Thoughts on the Unmaykr?
I see
Yooo guys I got the unicorn skin
I hate the archvile so much
Bruh, trying to get XP for a skin
THEN THE GAME CRASHES RIGHT BEFORE THE END OF THE LEVEL
F
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