doom-eternal

[patent stream]

Gamescon is this week so we could see something there

And gamescon is much bigger

More eyes

I wonder if they realize quakecon has gotten to small for major announcements

Like quakecon is a fun zenimax /Bethesda/ partner showcase thing, but it doesnt feel only game oriented announcements anymore

[slow sigil]

I doubt it, i think it's because they just dont have anything ready for it yet

[patent stream]

We shall see. If they miss gamescon the next major event isn’t until next summer game fest

Unless there is a random Xbox direct

[burnt moss]

Can I, with Steam and Gamepass, download a game and then just not connect to the internet again after that, to play it forever?

[slow sigil]

No clue

[west galleon]

Depends on the game

[burnt moss]

Assume it’s a game that doesn’t use the internet for all of its features. Campaign etc.

[west galleon]

You have to be connected to the internet and boot steam into offline mode first

then you can do whatever with what’s installed on your system theoretically

[maiden jungle]

hey, i just finished blood swamps on the ancient gods part 1 (im late, i know). my question is, what is the status of nerfs? i have seen a lot of posts about it being nerfed, but then i saw one post saying the nerfs were reverted. am i playing a nerfed version, or is it back to its full difficulty?

[west galleon]

the difficulty was reverted back to how it originally was after people complained

[maiden jungle]

okay, thanks for the response. so far its not as bad as i was afraid it would be based on all the posts i saw about its difficulty, but i am only on blood swamps so i shouldnt jinx it lol

[slow sigil]

Except for a few tiny things, like tentacles still being removed, pos baron is a pos hellknight

[maiden jungle]

yeah i had the possessed fodder glitch and was kinda confused lol

[west galleon]

Honestly I’m glad they removed most of the tentacles

There were too many in the swamp as it is

[slow sigil]

Same, tenties arent hard nor fun, just annoying

[west galleon]

I like chainsawing them

it’s satisfying

[slow sigil]

Right side already had pacing issues with the spirits... baron won't be missed

[west galleon]

i still need to finish ancient gods part two

i havnt started it yet

[maiden jungle]

i wish there were more big tentacles though. theyre just a funny idea for an enemy and are cool to see, even though they arent that hard

[novel sierra]

What's the hardest master level in your guys opinion

[west galleon]

Im replaying the game first since it’s been a while since I last played it

[azure oriole]

world spear

[novel sierra]

I've done all the base master levels

I don't have tag 1 and 2

[west galleon]

and since I just bought it on pc a few months ago I figured mows the time

has anyone played uktrakill

[novel sierra]

Whats in world spear that's super hard

[azure oriole]

huh

[west galleon]

I hear the gameplay is like doom eternal

where it focuses on combat and resource management

[slow sigil]

1 is very replayable, and it's only 1/3rd of the proce so it's good

[novel sierra]

Yes

[slow sigil]

Ultrakill doesnt have that much resource management

[azure oriole]

read the post again

[novel sierra]

Ultrakill has faster movement

[slow sigil]

You can also just kinda spam 1 attack and get perfect rating in most places so ehh

[west galleon]

Dang

are there any other games that play like it then

[novel sierra]

What post

[slow sigil]

Atleast, for first few chapters, didnt play much more

[west galleon]

Prodeus plays like doom 2016 Ik that much

[azure oriole]

the post I replied to?

[slow sigil]

Not exactly from what i know

[west galleon]

but where’s my doom eternal clones

[azure oriole]

dusk

[west galleon]

It really does

I completed all the levels that are out so far

it’s the closest thing we’re prob gonna get to doom 2016 for a while

[azure oriole]

oh @novel sierra you’re the one that made the post, I’m an idiot lol

[novel sierra]

[west galleon]

Dusk is more old school with its level design but it’s still a great game

[azure oriole]

[west galleon]

The ost is banging though

[slow sigil]

I wouldnt say dusk is like eternal

[novel sierra]

Most fps games have banger soundtracks

[azure oriole]

I’d just say world spear is the hardest because of the sheer amount of fuckery within it

[novel sierra]

The Doom Slayer is tired of your tomfuckery

[maiden jungle]

i have played a decent amount of ultrakill, havent finished it. less varied kit, no quick weapon swapping, and not really any resource management. however, you move really really fast and jump really high, so if youre into that its worth it. the high skill aspect comes more from aiming and mastering the mechanics of individual weapons

thats exactly what i was thinking about lol

[slow sigil]

I mean you can swap guns kinda but it's more about the individual guns yeah

[maiden jungle]

you can swap them but its not like doom where the meta is to switch between them as fast as possible to rack up damage (at least thats not how i remember playing it)

[novel sierra]

The guns interact with one another more

[west galleon]

What do you guys have your quick swap key set to

[novel sierra]

I play controller

[azure oriole]

rb

[west galleon]

I have it set to Q but I have a hard time moving a swapping at the same time on that key

[west galleon]

I can do it fine on controller

I was more wondering on pc with kb and mouse

[maiden jungle]

i dont really use the quick swap button, i just have every gun mapped near the WASD cluster

[slow sigil]

Q for the ssg, e for bal, r for hc, f for rocket, 1 for combat shottie, z for plasma, c for shield

[west galleon]

yea that’s too many buttons for my brain to process

[azure oriole]

Hi

[west galleon]

I’ve been using the mouse scroll to cycle through the guns 1 at a time

[maiden jungle]

you should try it out, you get used to it pretty quickly i think. at the very least having q and e for ssg and ballista is easy to get the hang of and is obviously very powerful and versatile

[slow sigil]

It's simpler then the wheel if you think about it

[west galleon]

It’s more about memorizing the positions instinctively on the keyboard that I have a problem with

i have a full keyboard with limited movement space

Maybe I should look into getting a 60 percent

[slow sigil]

Wheel is
Hold a button>drag your mouse to the right gun while time slows down>gun
Buttons are
Press button>gun

[azure oriole]

Your first mistake was using that bind in the first place

[slow sigil]

Same for dragging your mouse to the right gun on ww
Plus like, i use pc's for lots of things. I dont need to look at the keyboard that much for anything

[west galleon]

I’m a new keyboard and mouse user

[slow sigil]

I know pretty much what to type and where the keys are by heart

[azure oriole]

please consider using weapon binds for specific weapons, just using the swap bind is going to lower your ability to swap to the max potential

[west galleon]

Call it a skill issue

[maiden jungle]

if youre new to kb+m then thats fair. i would still personally recommend setting ssg and ballista (or two other guns if you prefer a different combo) and trying to get used to that. and then you can expand from there if you want

[slow sigil]

Yeah alr then i get it. But dw as you use keyboards more (like with typing in here!!!) You will get a feel for it better and bettet

[slow sigil]

I'd recomend putting heavy canon im a good spot, heart to all your swaps after all

[west galleon]

It took playing quake 2 on medium mode to get used to wasd

[maiden jungle]

true, heavy cannon is an important one as well. but 3 guns may be a bit overwhelming, up to them though

[west galleon]

I also have 2 buttons I can map to the side of my mouse

I put chainsaw on the front button and dash on the back

E is for glory kills

[slow sigil]

Nice, i recomend NOT putting guns on them, too much finger movement to think about while aiming and shooting and weaponmodding-

[west galleon]

Left shift is weapon mod swap

[slow sigil]

E is good for guns aswell

[west galleon]

q is weapon wheel

[maiden jungle]

i also have two buttons on the left of my mouse, but i have the forwardmost one for opening up discord overlay, and the one closer to me for switching weapon mod

[slow sigil]

I'd put that on like t or something, typically you dont want to swap weaponmods anyways

[west galleon]

R is grenade swap

F is flame belch

But it’s a little too far out so I often have to let go of wasd to do it

[slow sigil]

T, not r

[slow sigil]

F is right next to your wasd-
Are you french perhaps?

[west galleon]

No i just have bad joints

My pointer and middle finger arnt very dexterous

[slow sigil]

God as someone who doesnt have wheel binded that sounds hell lol

Why the hell is weapon mod swap on e, you barely wanna use it

Oh

Not really style in swapping mods

[west galleon]

E is a button you have easy access to

You want it to be on a command you use regularly

[slow sigil]

Except for ballista
And uhh yeah that's actually just it

[west galleon]

Like glory kills/dashing

[slow sigil]

For hc, csg, cgs AND rocket swapping weaponmods is almost ENTIRELY useless

[west galleon]

it’s best to get a mouse that had multiple buttons on the side for these kind of games I feel

It offloads 2 or 3 commands to your right thumb

[slow sigil]

Dash just feels good to be on shift for me, go to sprint button so

[west galleon]

I have the dash and chainsaw on my mouse

[slow sigil]

What is the style in choosing a more boribg mod though

[west galleon]

Although I could set the chainsaw to R

And put the weapon wheel on the mouse

[maiden jungle]

i also have dash on shift, i agree its nice

[jaunty vapor]

Having access to mod swap CAN be useful for stuff like mod-swap cancelling Lock On Burst's end-lag, but the amount of times that would actually be useful to anyone is extremely low.

[slow sigil]

Whats the end lag

[west galleon]

That stuff is too advanced for me

[maiden jungle]

thats why i personally think mouse button is a perfect bind for mod swap, its very accessible while not taking up useful spots near the wasd cluster

[azure oriole]

I do the same

[slow sigil]

Modswap is also cool for fblade which is stylish, and BATS which is inpracticle

[azure oriole]

mod swap and grenade swap are the two binds I have on my mouse

[jaunty vapor]

So for instance at the end of SGN when there's 3 Arachnotrons to kill right before the escape sequence, the best way to kill them is do a LOB and then press mod swap-punch-Heavy Cannon so you can shoot a PB asap, instead of waiting for LoB to finish before swapping.

[slow sigil]

It takes up spot for equipment like nade, punch, flame, chainsaw, etf

[jaunty vapor]

But like... that's less than a second and barely ever gonna matter etc. etc.

[slow sigil]

That's why i chose t, for if i need it it's close enough to use it without much effort

Not a button to use often, but it's ok

[jaunty vapor]

That's funny, Mod swap was on r for awhile but i moved it to t cause i needed r for something else.

[azure oriole]

The further to the right the binds get the worse they become

Well, depending on your movement keys

[jaunty vapor]

I'm waiting for the day someone says they have PB on Q and rockets on L or some shit

[slow sigil]

I had r for hc since i set it up, i can get r quite comfertably and almost enjoy it more then e

[maiden jungle]

i put my least used stuff up high or down low, like bfg is 4 and combat shotgun is x

[azure oriole]

but think of the sticky swaps

[maiden jungle]

bfg used to be on 3 but then i kept accidentally pressing it when trying to switch to chaingun on 2, so i moved it over

[slow sigil]

4 still rather close ngl

C can be pressed with thumb easily

[azure oriole]

1-4 is fine any more than that you’re on drugs

[slow sigil]

V too ig

[jaunty vapor]

For me even 4 is kinda pushing it. I have Plasma on 3 simply cause i rarely use Plasma, let alone need it for "swaps"

[slow sigil]

5 is okayish for bfg, same as t not used often but hey if i gotta

[jaunty vapor]

I'd maybe consider BFG or Crucible on 4, maybe

[azure oriole]

1-4 is what I use for my binds in Fortnite, so it kinda just carried over

[slow sigil]

Tbf i'm dutch and even then i have long fingers

[maiden jungle]

on my keyboard/my hand, pressing c and v with thumb would be tough, i would end up pressing the space bar. so its gotta be index finger for me

[jaunty vapor]

Hmm that's fair.

5+ is definitely though

[slow sigil]

Oh yeah, 6-0 is typing only

[maiden jungle]

bfg is never something i wanna quick swap to, so having it be out of the way is preferred. if i use it i want it to be very intentional

[azure oriole]

Since in Fortnite all the keys I use for swapping in doom are dedicated to builds, so 1-4 was like the only valid option

[jaunty vapor]

I'll use 5+ for slower paced games and shit. Fallout/Skyrim or Dishonored or something else.

[slow sigil]

I dont like putting my fonger of wasd for some reason so 2 and 3 are both bit weird for me

[azure oriole]

I’m playing dishonored 2 rn

[west galleon]

5+ is for Minecraft and mmos

[azure oriole]

well not right right now but I been playing it

[west galleon]

That’s what I think

[jaunty vapor]

I don't love DH2 like i do 1, but the series as a whole is great.

[azure oriole]

i am a real chad who plays using mouse buttons

[slow sigil]

Pulling my hand off of wasd to press 7 feels so.... wrong to me, idk why

[azure oriole]

[west galleon]

Same

[slow sigil]

I love both pretty much equally, spectacular games

[azure oriole]

I used to use mouse button binds for builds in Fortnite, then I got off the meth

i never played fortnite

[slow sigil]

Really didnt enjoy doto though

[jaunty vapor]

I wholeheartedly disagree for MMOs tbh. I found I needed every keybind close to my fingers as I could get for optimal rotations. Though... might depend on the class and such too

[azure oriole]

mouse binds are just kinds yucky hence why I use them for very basic binds in doom such as mod swap

cuz if you’re pressing mouse binds, you are whether you feel it or not, messing with your aim

[maiden jungle]

just like me fr

[west galleon]

in ff14 I played as a battlemage with like a million different spells equipped

[jaunty vapor]

I have 2 thumb buttons on the left and 2 on the right of my mouse, though the two on the right i rarely use except for like, very rare cases (and usually i just bind both to the same function cause i rarely can tell which of the two i press). Thumb buttons are usually for grenades/similar abilities or melee so that's what they are for Doom. Though I also bound E to punch R to Heavy Cannon for easy punch swaps

[west galleon]

so it was always necessary I feel

[slow sigil]

Luckily i don't need to aim chainsaw, flame belch, nades, or melee

[jaunty vapor]

I was missing when i was trying to do punch swaps with thumb button for punching lol

[slow sigil]

And hammer ig

[azure oriole]

Ok I have to admit I use a cursed bind for hammer… V

[west galleon]

Btw does anyone have a good mouse recommendation

[azure oriole]

same

[west galleon]

Ideally one with 3 extra buttons

[slow sigil]

It's default plus your thumb is near it

[azure oriole]

Oh is that default

[azure oriole]

sadly

[jaunty vapor]

That's funny I use V as well

[azure oriole]

noice

[jaunty vapor]

I didn't remember that was default lol

[azure oriole]

same

[jaunty vapor]

But it was out of the way and Crucible/Hammer aren't like, SUPER necessary so works out in the end.

[slow sigil]

I mean c and v are good buttons, near your thumb so can lress tgem without releasing wasd

[azure oriole]

I use C for chainsaw, felt fitting

[azure oriole]

a profesional speedranner a well known player uses a default bind instead of the prefered ones?????!!!! thats outrageous!!!

[jaunty vapor]

For me F is chainsaw, C is chaingun.

[azure oriole]

wait until you find out Zan uses all default binds… yes ALL default

[jaunty vapor]

I wish I was a professional, I'd actually stream for a job instead of doing my job for a job. ;_;

[azure oriole]

that man built different Fr

[slow sigil]

For me it's press scroll, super awkward to press so luckily both are not super used quickly

[sour lagoon]

Uh I completed the suit preater upgrade wheel but i still have extra preator points what do i do with them?

[jaunty vapor]

Enjoy them (they're just extra)

[sour lagoon]

Oh alr

[jaunty vapor]

Wtf is Zan @_@ not human is what

[slow sigil]

But bloodshot, you'd still do your jpb as a job then technically!!!!

[sour lagoon]

Also for some reason the mark in the middle isnt red too

[azure oriole]

facts

[azure oriole]

i use G to swap my persepctive in minecraft and when i tried swapping it with chainsaw lets say... overabusing it wasnt a good idea

[sour lagoon]

Why isnt it red tho am i missing something

Wait I reloaded it its red

[slow sigil]

Hmm strange, luckily it's just visual

[azure oriole]

Doom eternal is a perfect game with ZERO bugs

[sour lagoon]

Fr

[slow sigil]

Not like this big matters at all

[azure oriole]

Cyberponk *let us introduce ourselfs

tho tbh i overabused cp2077 i got out of map everywhere

i explored every centimeter of the map and yet still had more fps than dl2 on lowest

[burnt moss]

Do you vote I unbind modswap for campaign and master levels? I’d put PB there instead.

[azure oriole]

cyberpunk is a good game

that’s the post

[slow sigil]

I vote aye

[jaunty vapor]

Mmm probably.
If you ever NEED to mod swap, you can still mod swap via weapon wheel.

[azure oriole]

dying light 2 is worst than cp2077

[jaunty vapor]

Lotta people forget that's a feature. 😛

[azure oriole]

i use modswap as caps lock

works very well

it’s a crime to use caps lock binds

[slow sigil]

Dont you need to... press modswap to do that?

[azure oriole]

rarely use it

[burnt moss]

Wait what? I currently modswap on WW by pressing modswap while highlighting the weapon. What are you saying I can do???

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/oblivion-elder-scrolls-stop-right-there-stop-criminal-scum-gif-16138905

[jaunty vapor]

Ngl as soon as I said you can use weapon wheel for it i booted up DE to remember KEKW

[azure oriole]

nothing is a crime to the shogun.

[slow sigil]

Anyways imma get my 5 hours of sleep l8s

[jaunty vapor]

Lol shit u rit

[burnt moss]

I didn’t want to be right tho

[azure oriole]

Be left then

[west galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-fans-loads-shotgun-gif-23778902

[azure oriole]

That’s me Fr

[burnt moss]

You can modswap on pause though, so I think that’s the other option

[random vault]

true

[azure oriole]

im gonna foreshadow what bloodshot gonna do next

[west galleon]

Hey raiden

[jaunty vapor]

You can also equip mods in the weapon menu itself. A bit annoying but if you never/rarely swap mods...

[azure oriole]

Hi

[west galleon]

Change your name to “raiden shotgun”

[azure oriole]

nty

[west galleon]

Very appropriate for this server I thought it would be funni

[random vault]

hi

[opal galleon]

Hi TMG

[azure oriole]

tmg omg my favourite

[opal galleon]

True

[random vault]

hi 🌰🥛

[west galleon]

[opal galleon]

[azure oriole]

this chat is further confirming that all doom players are weebs

[azure oriole]

we are not weebs

[random vault]

*femboys

[azure oriole]

[burnt moss]

That would actually take 0 in-game time, which is a plus. I swap to FA on Horde sometimes, but otherwise I just swap to Dblade a bit

[azure oriole]

we are weebz with an extra z on the end

[random vault]

bruh!!!1!111!

[jaunty vapor]

I see no issue with this

[west galleon]

I mean…..doom has a very popular fan base in Asia now thx to a certain vtuber

[random vault]

i like nuclear throne

[azure oriole]

bloodshot soon gonna have anime pfp with his red stick figure but anime i can foreshadow that

[opal galleon]

[west galleon]

I’d software thanked them by putting an Easter egg on the title screen for a while

[random vault]

i like playing YV, getting trigger fingers and plutonium hunger, then dying to big bandit on 1-3

[west galleon]

Doog eternal

[jaunty vapor]

I actually had been considering doing SOME kind of image/banner with my pfp regarding Splatoon 3 in prep for the demo/full release soon. Then I remembered that would either take time/talent (neither of which I have) or paying someone else (which I just don't wanna do 😛 )

[west galleon]

Remember that

[azure oriole]

Woomy

[random vault]

hi

[azure oriole]

Give me all your money

[jaunty vapor]

Booyah

[azure oriole]

just draw a hair into it make a cute smile and done

[random vault]

bye fans 🤓
hi fans 😎

[burnt moss]

Is that a speedrun strat at all?

[opal galleon]

I mean you have G. Wrench dawg idk

[random vault]

doom fans .

[random vault]

he shot me with gun

[opal galleon]

Deflect bullets

[jaunty vapor]

Pausing the in game timer wouldn't pause livesplit, so it would not be, no.

[azure oriole]

im poor

[random vault]

i try, he shoot faster then me swing

[jaunty vapor]

Some games do have the timer paused during menuing so it would be in THOSE instances, but DE is not one of them.

[burnt moss]

Speedrunning is about real world time?

[opal galleon]

Move up/down (depending on direction of BB) while deflecting bullets

[random vault]

no ty, im saving up for laptop

966$ and still growing :SCswagger:

[west galleon]

No give it to me

[azure oriole]

yo bloodshot

[jaunty vapor]

Depends on the game, basically. If there's no accurate in game timer, usually the game uses some form of real time.

Buuuuuuut for something like PC where different rigs can have different load times, the community will create a "load remover" which basically will pause the timer whenever a loading screen occurs. It's dependent on the game itself, really, on a case by case basis.

[random vault]

bloodshot can we be friends

[jaunty vapor]

The Metroid Series and Goldeneye are popular examples that use the in game timer (although in Metroid's case sometimes it's not actually accurate to real time, but it's still "accurate" enough that speedrunners use it)

[azure oriole]

had the same question

[random vault]

i said it first

[burnt moss]

Are you saying that of my 500+ hrs recorded in DE, half of that is possibly overnight pausing?

[jaunty vapor]

Possibly/probably 😛

[azure oriole]

andd

[random vault]

yuor a copy cat

[west galleon]

So that’s how they do it

[azure oriole]

i messasge bloodshot like once a russiam year and wbat i get is a feickin thumbsup emoji

[random vault]

is this a reply to being my friend

[opal galleon]

300 of 1.7k of my playtime is probably just afk hours

[jaunty vapor]

In response to being friends, meh Most people I'm friends with didn't need to ask, we just became friends by being friendly 😛

[random vault]

am i friendly

[opal galleon]

Yes

[burnt moss]

That’s awful. What about main menu?

[random vault]

social anxiety entering my brain after saying that:

[azure oriole]

same

dont ask

[jaunty vapor]

In terms of Steam tracking hours, that would count.

For speedruns... depends on the game, but PC Doom Eternal does NOT count main menu time. That's why you'll see people either reload checkpoint OR exit to menu -> continue game, because it will reload them at a different spot (thereby saving like 3 seconds)

[random vault]

i have school in 2 fuckibg days how the FUCK am i supposed to talk to people

[azure oriole]

i have it in 9days

what i will do if they discover that i play genshin impact

[jaunty vapor]

For Console, because there's basically no real way to install a "load remover" onto console*, it uses real time so main menu WOULD be counted for a console speedrun.

*Note: I don't know the actual ins/outs of console as SOMETIMES there can be load removers for games that are on console, however I don't know much about it and what goes into that

[azure oriole]

i will need to change my identity change countries change my name

school is feckin scary

why do we have to go back to it

[random vault]

who cares

[burnt moss]

Does the Switch count main menu time in hours played?

[azure oriole]

they do...

[opal galleon]

Yes

[jaunty vapor]

I think if you press the home button, it would not (because the game is suspended)

[azure oriole]

from what ive heard 51 ppl around dont like anime

[jaunty vapor]

But if you were still "in game" then yes that should count hours

[opal galleon]

If the game registers that you're playing it it's counting hours barring it being suspended

[random vault]

boohoo i like video game that other person no like 😿, my life id ruined

[azure oriole]

but anyways getting too bit dramatic as always

[azure oriole]

ik right worst feeling

[azure forum]

Just like what you like, and enjoy what you like regardless if others don't.

[azure oriole]

nah but school is the worst tbh

once i got bullied for something i liked playing smh

but that besiodes da point

[burnt moss]

How many hours have I spent chatting in this discord while the game was running

[random vault]

doom eternal

[opal galleon]

Personally likely over 200

[azure oriole]

idk i spend like6hours chit chatting here

per day

[random vault]

doom eternal no jump challenge

[azure oriole]

possible

[azure forum]

Eh game played time doesn't matter at the end.

[burnt moss]

So I’m not actually the vet I thought I was

[random vault]

how do the parkcor

[azure oriole]

the most importsnt are those free hours

[azure oriole]

tutorials
how to tutorial
youtube

[azure forum]

No, the most important is playing the game. Who cares if you have played 2k hours or 200? It doesn't matter.

[burnt moss]

I hate that you can’t re-attempt traversal and blitz rounds

[burnt moss]

Experience is a factor in credibility

[random vault]

ive played the game for about 45 hours

[azure oriole]

what game

there are alot of games

[burnt moss]

I lost the game

[azure oriole]

sameee

[opal galleon]

You can technically prove that with what you know about the game and not just hours. I know fallout 2 inside and out and only have 50 hours or so

[random vault]

my brother in christ what channel are we in

[azure forum]

It is, but at the same time people have different learning curves. Also, you don't have anything to prove but to yourself - unless you are in some sort of tournament or get payed to play

[azure oriole]

#doom-eternal at night

the dark times of #doom-eternal

[burnt moss]

Doom eternal in the mooorning

[random vault]

fortnite battle pass

[opal galleon]

I miss EC's golden age

[random vault]

who want play fortnite

[azure oriole]

you

[burnt moss]

Space to dismiss

[random vault]

❔

[burnt moss]

Inside joke

:angry buttsex:

[azure oriole]

eyeneDloV

[random vault]

tf

[burnt moss]

I’ll find the convo and tag it

[azure oriole]

[burnt moss]

#doom-eternal message

[alpine plaza]

this message needs to be pinned

[burnt moss]

Too crude I think

[alpine plaza]

i am going to frame that message and hang it on my wall

[azure oriole]

Does anyone know what activities reward collection xp? I have the pass completed, except there’s separate collection lvl and I want to know what contributes towards that.

Event xp applies to collection levels

[lethal oriole]

man the samur bossfight is not fun

[azure oriole]

And assuming event lvl rules apply too, so 10 days left to “complete”?

Once you have the collection, it's yours forever. You can continue to upgrade it even if the event has ended

[azure oriole]

Where do you get more collections? During upcoming events I assume?

[west galleon]

So is the doom eternal co op mod any good

Has anyone tried it

[azure oriole]

Pretty much. Although they clearly aren't making anymore "new" events and are just doing reruns. The majority of the events have already been reran but they can be purchased for an unfair price

[lethal oriole]

god fuck samur's 2nd spirit shield

[azure oriole]

That phase can be trivialized if you know the proper strategy

@burnt moss whatchu ❔ me for ehh??

[lethal oriole]

finally, samur's bossfight was easily the most annoying part of tag 1

[burnt moss]

How can you continue to upgrade a collection after the event?

[jaunty vapor]

Something something 4 Arbalest kills the pain elemental

[azure oriole]

The collection stays in your inventory even if the event is over

5am i still didnt slept

[jaunty vapor]

If you unlocked the first cosmetic for something like, say, Hotdog Mancubus, and then the event ends, you can still gain XP for that skin specifically to unlock the accompanying intro, alt colors, podiums, etc

[burnt moss]

So if I only get 25/45 on the current event, related items can still be earned from that event?

[azure oriole]

bloodshot is on his trusty phone.

[timid plank]

beat the campaign on nightmare for the first time

[jaunty vapor]

You can't unlock everything from the event after it closes. But any of the "special skins" that also comes with extra shit you can keep unlocking THAT stuff after the event

I don't know which skins are for this event, maybe Sgt Pain?

[azure oriole]

bloodshot, is your phone keyboard being abused, like my spacebar ?

[jaunty vapor]

Oh my God I keep misclicking fucking gifs and it tries to upload shit

[azure oriole]

bloodshots secret gifs files revealed?

[zenith kestrel]

Is the domicorn still available?

[azure oriole]

for 6bucks

[jaunty vapor]

You can't unlock, say, the alt default Slayer colors after the event ends, that stuff is locked. Same if you don't get the first Shot Pain skin.

But if you unlock Sgt Pain but don't unlock the alt colors for Sgt Pain you CAN keep unlocking THOSE

[zenith kestrel]

You have to do the twitch thing right?

[burnt moss]

I thought all items are part of collections?

[jaunty vapor]

No, and the joke about me being a fast texter/typer stopped being funny a little while ago.

[azure oriole]

before yes. now 6 bucks

[azure oriole]

you still gotta teach me

[zenith kestrel]

Like as in game dlc or something else?

[azure oriole]

instore dlc cosmetic pack

[zenith kestrel]

ahh

[azure oriole]

even tho idk why wouls you want to spend 6bucks on a unicorn

[jaunty vapor]

I'm just explaining how it works

The "event" isn't a collection. The Sgt Pain, or Agent Archvile, Santa Slayer, etc ARE collections.

[zenith kestrel]

Best costume in my mind man

[azure oriole]

I bought the twitch packs and never really used them ☠

[zenith kestrel]

how the fuck do you even get to the store

[azure oriole]

What’s the quickest way to lvl collections?

[flint flame]

Weekly challenges

[azure oriole]

Also is there xp values somewhere? Like how many lvls is sgt pain?

[azure oriole]

There’s only monthly challenges? I have all of them except horde mode challenges, game kept warning me I should play tag first but I guess not lol.

[flint flame]

It used to be weekly before the mega events

[azure oriole]

There's no ingame store, it's the actual store for the platform you use

Wasn’t it that master lvls give no xp towards events or collections?

[zenith kestrel]

oh so i go to the store on steam thank you

[azure oriole]

They should have them returned to weekly. Month is so long

[flint flame]

I believe so yea

[zenith kestrel]

i found it my freind i will be the ultimate unicorn

[azure oriole]

Fart and defecate until it's done

[jaunty vapor]

I'll take "Statements that Don't Mean Anything" for 1200 Alex

[dire flume]

I have all the upgrades.
I was using micro missiles and thought I was killing them too fast. So I used just the bullets. Still nothing. Then randomly while I killed a spectre it gave me three kills. I've killed more than fifteen but it hasn't registered the rest. So weird how challenges are bugged sometimes.

[dire flume]

That's right. You don't get any for MLs

[timid plank]

is there a way of saving my progress on classic doom inside that computer on fortress of doom? i can save inside that computer but the doom eternal file won't save itself so all my progress is gone

[waxen field]

It should save (when you manually save inside the emulator in the Doom Slayer’s man cave), it saves for me properly when using it. Maybe there’s something wrong with your save file.

[gentle ether]

I'm looking for somebody to play battle mode. 2.0 for Doom eternal on Nintendo switch

[timid plank]

yeah I have no idea, is it cause I have the game completed or something? when I save it inside that computer, then exit out of Doom Eternal and open it back up, my save isn't there anymore

[waxen field]

Maybe try entering and exiting a level? I had to do that to get the rest of my weapon upgrades/masteries to save after I beat the game.

[timid plank]

i'll try that yeah

[alpine plaza]

question for xbox players

how do you use the controller?

cause im seeing some madman that uses his index finger for all of the buttons

i mean it seems to work but its weird

[waxen field]

I’m a PS4 player though I doubt it’s that different.

Anyways I use it normally till I accidentally fire the bfg due to the trash weapon wheel then throw the controller.

[alpine plaza]

the bfg thing has happened to me a lot of times

[oak relic]

i like to bind super shotgun to up on dpad and ballista to left stick

*down

you can also get a contoller with the buttons on the back and bind weapons/actions to those

[azure oriole]

I've used nothing but default since day one

dots sighting

[cedar isle]

wym

[azure oriole]

Spotted

[oak relic]

ik the left stick has no bind to it by default

[waxen field]

That and down on the d pad is very unimportant.

[azure oriole]

How is event xp from replaying campaign lvls decided? Some seem to give out more. Or is it once per campaign lvl?

[oak relic]

i put ssg on down

i think event xp is guaranteed if you do challenges

or just by playing the game

[azure oriole]

No not talking about challenges. Just xp that you get after end of mission.

[burnt moss]

It seems random

[oak relic]

oh i thought you got xp from just beating levels and completion

[azure oriole]

Taras nabad gave 85k and hell on earth 3800. Granted I have played hell on earth multiple times recently. It says so in “rewards”

I’m done with the collection anyway but just wonder if there some logic to xp values etc. I’m guessing empowered demons buff the value up, but other than that what determines the xp..?

[waxen field]

I’m pretty sure cheats heavily decrease it.

Though it’s hard to say anything for certain without someone going out their way to test things.

[cedar isle]

xp grind from doing "gladiator" boss fight on NM

[waxen field]

Wouldn’t Dark Lord be faster?

Since there’s no level you have to walk through.

[azure oriole]

Yeah but they also make running lvl faster for screenshot taking in the side. But what determines the values, including cheats or no cheats? Just curious if someone has breakdown of it.

[cedar isle]

Sure

[azure oriole]

Yeah I’ve seen this in “fastest way to farm xp “ but what determines the campaign lvs xp values? Are they random? Do they increase or decrease based on certain values?

[azure oriole]

Also if cheats decrease it, what cheats specifically? How much “per one cheat” ? Do negative cheats increase it (like famine mode)?

[waxen field]

I’m not sure if anyone has tested to see how it works tbh.

[oak relic]

i finished the event before i finished the actual base game

[waxen field]

I only said that cause I beat a level with a ton of cheats on and it gave pitiful xp.

I didn’t really do much testing.

[oak relic]

oh yeah i never used cheats except to unlock weapon mods

[azure oriole]

I’ve used them lots of times, but then again I’ve unlocked everything from base campaign including weapon mods and praetor suit points, secrets etc. They’re fun for replaying lvs when you need certain locations quickly.

Also ideal for action screenshots

[oak relic]

that would make sense

i think the danger and challenge is what makes it fun though

[azure oriole]

Yeah well you can’t have that while taking screenshots.

[oak relic]

mainly because its fair. i would not say the same for halo 2 on legendary

is there a cheat or option to remove the hud?

[azure oriole]

There is photo mode

[waxen field]

Cheats can be really useful when trying to test something, learn a new combo, or piece of tech.

[oak relic]

thats fair

[azure oriole]

That too. And they’re fun for messing around

[jaunty vapor]

There are options you can disable to get no HUD

[oak relic]

i wish beserk was in the game more

[azure oriole]

Yeah technically not except photo mode

[waxen field]

Judging from the restrictions the cheat has it’d likely have to be changed to be used more.

[azure oriole]

Yeah, that is if it wasn't completely boring

The animations are unbearably slow and it's just not fun to use

But the hud turning off would be cool too. But I always have to change out of 120 fps anyway so it takes time when I want to take a shot I change the 120 fps to raytracing. Wish there was options in photo mode to do that directly

[oak relic]

maybe it could have been something to build up like the hammer or blood punch\

[jaunty vapor]

We're talking about Doom Eternal right?

[waxen field]

Yea I prefer 2016’s berserk. Though it is definitely overused in that game.

[oak relic]

and it would give the developers an excuse to add more demons

[azure oriole]

Yeah? You haven’t noticed photo mode?

[oak relic]

yes were talking about eternal

[jaunty vapor]

No I know what Photo Mode is. I'm saying without photo mode, you can also get no HUD

[azure oriole]

I only remember seeing it like 3 times, which is more than plenty

[waxen field]

If only it wasn’t perpetually in beta.

[oak relic]

that sucks

[azure oriole]

Yeah no not without photo mode. But lots of games you can, I think it should be an option. Tbh it could use couple improvements as well

[azure oriole]

If they went with that route, maybe have it so the meter decreases when you take damage so it's actually balanced

Like a substantial decrease

[oak relic]

that would make it very rewarding for good gameplay (thats a good thing btw)

[azure oriole]

id software should hire me tbh

[oak relic]

i wish animations were implemented more

[azure oriole]

Haha yeah I kinda wonder about that..if it’s in beta, any chance they added things,altho hasn’t it been year or two? I mean it is definitely not worst of the photo modes but as example setting slot (camera speed resets always and everything else too..)

[waxen field]

It isn’t used enough to justify that.

[jaunty vapor]

Go to main menu -> Settings -> UI

Under "HUD" is an option "HUD Mode" which lets you do "Full" or "Crosshair Only". Select "Crosshair Only".

From there you can go down to "Crosshair Style" and select "None" from the list of "Full | Dot | None".

I'm currently down patched so I don't know the actual names, however I know there's an option for the extra bits on the crosshair (flame belch/grenade cooldowns, etc) to also remove those. Most likely it is also under "UI".

[oak relic]

thats the problem. imagine if you could shoot a shield guys foot causing him to topple over, giving you a window to headshot him, ssg etc.

like the animation implementation for the dark lord

[waxen field]

Oh I thought you were talking about berserk.

[oak relic]

ohh i meant halo style animations

[jaunty vapor]

I think the only thing that you can't turn off this way is hit markers when you hit demons.

[oak relic]

you cant turn off hit markers?

[jaunty vapor]

That is exactly what that sentence said, "I think the only thing you can't turn off this way is hit markers" 😐

[azure oriole]

Yeah I tested that, that and also your weapon shows up.

[waxen field]

Isn’t that just the falter system?

[oak relic]

kind of yes

[jaunty vapor]

I'd argue the weapon model isn't part of the UI per se but, fair enough you can't remove the weapon.

[oak relic]

but i meant marauder animations except you can activate the animation yourself

[waxen field]

I suppose it would be helpful to have different animations for hard and soft falters

[oak relic]

yeah theres basically no way to learn about the different falters on your own

[azure oriole]

It would be good fps pov this way if you could disable the weapon out of it 😅 as example another 120 fps game is Deep rock galatic, and you can press H on keyboard to remove hud, altho that game does not have photo mode. Text chat used to be only activated by keyboard, turning of hud is a keyboard thing (it’s fast H vs going on settings on controller)

[oak relic]

that would be nice

[waxen field]

It’d also benefit from something letting you know when the soft falter cooldown is over.

Not sure though how you’d implement that though.

[oak relic]

maybe the marauder animation could have gone to the falter instead as its less obvious

[azure oriole]

I also disable photo mode when I am not taking shots cause in eternal that button is bound for mission objectives (or additional weapon if familiar with mission)

[oak relic]

dang no one uses mission objectives

[azure oriole]

I do. Especially when I played first time campaign ofc I’m using it. Also it’s default bind there. Why would I not use it?

[oak relic]

so you can bind a weapon to it

especially on controller

[azure oriole]

Sure. But I want mission objectives too 😕 I hate it being hidden. They should have option that if you bind weapon to it, alternatively you could have the text pinned in the screen

[oak relic]

if you go on your map it will show you where youre supposed to go

[azure oriole]

I’m not dumb, ik that. Doesn’t mean I still don’t want it that way.

[oak relic]

do you play mk or controller

[azure oriole]

Controller. And yeah I swap it out sometimes but tbh I also can switch the weapons from weapon wheel.

[oak relic]

ik i just find it easier to have my ssg and ballista bound to specific keys

[azure oriole]

I have ssg bound already I think on r3 do it isn’t that bad and weapon wheel delay to minimal. I just mostly try to memorize also where everything is in the weapon wheel. I did customize it but prefer to have all weapons accesible

[burnt moss]

Alright guys, I’m getting rid of modswap to bind heavy cannon on Dpad up.

[gray rivet]

Hmm

[oak relic]

why would you get rid of modswap

[burnt moss]

Because of how rarely I use it.

[jaunty vapor]

2 reasons:

You can mod swap from the main menu anyways so there's no "in game time" loss to do so, so no real penalties if you REALLY need to swap

And generally there's no need for most alternate weapon mods.

[oak relic]

i might actually do that then

[jaunty vapor]

Aside from specifics like FA vs. Stimps or Meme Beam vs. Spirits, the only mod that reaaaaally can be swapped out "often" would be Arbalest, which even that's iffy since at higher levels of play Dblade is typically better in 99% of situations.

[oak relic]

thank you

[gray rivet]

Interesting

[oak relic]

FA?

[jaunty vapor]

Full Auto

[oak relic]

Stimps?

[jaunty vapor]

Stone Imps.

[burnt moss]

What with all the swarms of ridiculous amounts of Superheavies

[oak relic]

thanks

[jaunty vapor]

Exactly. Even a full Dblade against one heavy/super heavy isn't THAT much of a waste, if you can get at least 2 you're basically more efficient than Arbalest already. 3+ and you're golden

[oak relic]

you need mod swaps for the first few levels though

[burnt moss]

At that point I’d prefer LOB for the added mobility

[azure oriole]

Yeah but having to sacrifice something for inconvenience sucks. I swap chaingun mod for example all the time ingame, and I can’t imagine if I had to pause game everytime to do that. Or get the shield out when it is truly needed.

[jaunty vapor]

Why would you ever swap chaingun mod? Mobile Turret's generally worse.

[burnt moss]

There may be confusion

[gray rivet]

I do enjoy a good instant Salvo from the arbalest

[azure oriole]

What makes it worse though?

[oak relic]

barons & giant tentacles

[burnt moss]

It takes 1 second for Turret to do 1 SSG worth of damage

And it doesn’t have a shield to make it worth the low dps

[oak relic]

you can stunlock tentacles

[burnt moss]

New release by Bloodshot incoming

[jaunty vapor]

Normal Chaingun (and by extension, Energy Shield) damage is 20x4, vs. Mobile Turret's 24x4. So you get a marginal increase in DPS, but you give up the utility of always having Energy Shield. This of course doesn't include things like the Energy Shield Mastery and/or Shield Bashes, BUT...

As Voldeneye said, Mobile Turret DPS is generally just slower than other ways to kill enemies. Precision Bolt is generally better since it's 400 damage per 6 ammo spent (800 if you get headshots), and you can either do punch cancels OR just general quick swaps to keep doing said damage. You also don't need to spend ANY weapon points to make precision bolt effective, vs. needing 9 points AND the mastery for Mobile Turret to generally be useful.

[oak relic]

and useful for barons and darklord

[burnt moss]

So can Chaingun

[jaunty vapor]

If you guys are interested, the damage values are pinned in this channel in a google sheets file. On the top left of the sheets file is a google docs file that explains a little bit of the nuances with some of the damage values, but most notably, both Mobile Turret AND normal chaingun do not fire single bullets, but rather fire "4" bullets per ammo spent that each deal damage (20 for normal, 24 for mobile turret, for a total of 80 damage per shot vs. 96 damage per shot)

[oak relic]

didnt know that

[oak relic]

jeez

[burnt moss]

Unless I’m mistaken, Chaingun itself has the falter capability for the knights, barons, tentacles etc. Not just turret.

[oak relic]

i mean killing baron quickly when frozen of fighting cyber baron

[burnt moss]

Ok I’m feeling reckless. Gonna lose Crucible for Rocket Launcher on Dpad down

[azure oriole]

Yeah but in dps it’s marginally higher than with energy shield? I can use the turret mod with flame belch to try to take down something and then swap to shield when I need it. Or swap them all the time. Even though other options might be higher dmg.. precision bolt makes sense but even that is a diff gun. I’ve used it a fair share too but it is not the same

[oak relic]

not the lightsaber!

and what about ballista? mod swapping is pretty useful for that weapon

[burnt moss]

On second thought I might want to keep crucible for Taras Nabad Master Level at least

[azure oriole]

Hmm I actually have to check that. Not sure of all the values altho ik that ssg ballista etc. are higher dmg but I still like my chaingun 😢

[oak relic]

ive heard that level is great

[burnt moss]

Like Bloodshot said, you usually want dblade over arba

[oak relic]

yea but arba is useful for marauder onecycles and pain elementals

[burnt moss]

Just pause menu swap in that case

[azure oriole]

But it ruins the combat loop tho. Who wants to be pausing the game?

[oak relic]

and the early levels?

[burnt moss]

I don’t often feel the need to use both mods of any weapon multiple times in one fight

[azure oriole]

Tbh all of it makes me just wish there were more buttons. But ps5 you don’t even have back buttons available… 😕

[burnt moss]

What about them?

[jaunty vapor]

If you wanted the "highest" damage you would definitely not be using anything that is fully automatic. You'd be doing weapon swaps and/or Lock on Burst, pretty much.

The only reason Energy Shield is considered OP OP even at a high level isn't because of any damage or whatever, it's just cause it's God Mode on a Stick every 8 seconds

[azure oriole]

I know. But I want FA too.

[oak relic]

they practically force you to switch between sticky and full auto

[jaunty vapor]

You do you 👍

[azure oriole]

Why do you hate it so much?

[burnt moss]

I don’t even get FA until late game

[jaunty vapor]

Cause it's objectively worse at every skill level in the game in every situation

[burnt moss]

Inefficient ammo usage and low dps relatively.

[oak relic]

how do you take out arachnotrons?

[gray rivet]

Pb rocket

[burnt moss]

Should I ditch Crucible for Rocket?

[azure oriole]

Yeah but I love the chaingun, the shield is useful. Plus I just like the gun. I can’t give up something I like completely

[jaunty vapor]

The amount of investment it takes (both in game resources AND learning curve) for a relatively inefficient weapon is astounding compared to its alternatives (Sticky Bombs having a lower skill cap but being more efficient/safer to use since it's "infinite range" compared to FA's low range, and SSG being better DPS/TTK with less weapon points needed if quick swapping, or the same amount of weapon points if not)

[gray rivet]

Yes

[burnt moss]

Early game

[gray rivet]

Sry

[oak relic]

i mean early game without fa

[jaunty vapor]

Triple Chainsaw, mostly.

[oak relic]

Do you at least use micro missiles

[jaunty vapor]

In Hell on Earth alone you can chainsaw 3 out of 5 Arachnotrons in Hell on Earth, and you can skip the one in the subway completely, so you really only need to fight 1 Arachnotron. And Sticky Bombs are decent at taking them out anyways, especially since you don't need to get close to them. I won't deny FA is alright against them but it's not exceptional either

[burnt moss]

Sticky the turret, grenade and two stickies to body. Mostly does it.

[oak relic]

thanks

[jaunty vapor]

No, I don't. Precision Bolt is better on its own, or with other things to swap with.

[oak relic]

do you just chainsaw hell knights or something

[azure oriole]

I use the other weapons too but tbh I am not fan of rockets, altho I use it cause I know they’re good. But still there’s just some weapons that I find inherently fun which chaingun is one of them.

[gray rivet]

I don't like remote det too much, and I like to use microwave beam later in the campaign

[raw star]

So nothing substantial was announced for Doom

https://tenor.com/view/deus-ex-deus-ex-jc-shame-gif-26245854

[jaunty vapor]

I mean what are we talking about? An Any% Restricted run? Casually playing a master level or modded content? It depends.

For early game it's 2 PBs and 3 Stickies, OR triple chainsaw depending on where in the route we're talking about. Once you get Lock on Burst... well, Lock on Burst. Or Dblade, depending on where this is, but that's rare in the run.

For modded content and such, it'll usually be a combination of
Lock On Burst
SSG -> PB -> SSG
Dblade -> something else

[gray rivet]

Fun fun, what fun

[jaunty vapor]

Actually there is one Hell Knight that dies to a Yeetblast in Cultist, I did forget that one

[oak relic]

im still new to the game so i dont do restricted runs yet

[gray rivet]

I'm excited to try nightmare

[jaunty vapor]

If you're new I'd recommend just playing/enjoying the game, especially if you haven't beaten it yet. Don't worry too much about efficiency/stats until you REALLY want/need to.

You can only play a game for the first time once, and admittedly some stuff loses its charm once you learn the actual stats and such behind it

[oak relic]

i actually beat everything including the base master levels and dlc

[jaunty vapor]

Gotcha gotcha.

[oak relic]

havent done tag1 or 2 master levels though or horde mode

[gray rivet]

To prepare for nightmare I am running UV deathless

[burnt moss]

What difficulty?

[oak relic]

hurt me plenty

[gray rivet]

Currently on Mars core

[oak relic]

currently trying base game on nightmare

[burnt moss]

Higher difficulties made it a whole different game for me. I never used rockets or dblade or pb on HMP.

[oak relic]

tried ultra nightmare but got my 💩 kicked in by the caco before the first hell knight in the 2nd level

[burnt moss]

Before I Google, do you know where to find the infinite ammo cheat?

[regal halo]

im literally standing next to the teleporter as doom 3 metal music plays in the back but irl, sitting in my couch after a rough day at work and eating a banana

[alpine plaza]

going through the first level on UN is quite an achievement

[jaunty vapor]

I might be crazy but I think that's actually in Hell on Earth

[alpine plaza]

all of the first 3 levels are torture

[oak relic]

thank you

[regal halo]

never been so hype to kill a god as chill as i am, doom does things to a man

[jaunty vapor]

Don't quote me on that though the only cheat I know specifically where it is is the IDKFA cheat being in Arc Complex

[oak relic]

yep

[azure oriole]

You haven’t found them all or this is like another campaign run?

[burnt moss]

Close. Infinite lives is there

[oak relic]

just get the upgrade that shows important items on the map and grab everything

[oak relic]

that one still hurts

[azure oriole]

Also curious for people who had multiple save files.. did you do secrets etc. again?

[oak relic]

yes. its part of the fun for me

[burnt moss]

Just another run. I want to do some practicing but infinite ammo makes that easier

[jaunty vapor]

Generally no, but I also rarely redo saves for any other reason than doing runs

[azure oriole]

Also what was your playtime if you completed the game on UN?

[oak relic]

2 hours before i died

[azure oriole]

Lol… completed. I mean like completely. The campaign.

[oak relic]

ik

[burnt moss]

It’s Super Gore Nest btw

[oak relic]

how many attempts before you beat un>

^?

[jaunty vapor]

I actually have a decently accurate measure of this since I have some old livesplit files

[azure oriole]

Yeah that too. And how many campaigns replays it took?

[oak relic]

i was actually asking you

[jaunty vapor]

It took me abouuuuuuut 20-30 tries apparently? It's not the most accurate measure but it doesn't sound completely off

[oak relic]

dang

[jaunty vapor]

I ended up doing UN runs after getting sub 2 hours in NMG, and I didn't even really bother changing the route much so I had to adapt to UN on the fly forthe most part. I imagine a lot of the deaths were probably on Hell on Earth

[oak relic]

NMG?

[jaunty vapor]

No Major Glitches. It's the old name for what's now Any% Restricted

[azure oriole]

Lol I have not beat UN lmao. I’m not certainly not ready yet but it is my goal in the long run.

[oak relic]

oh ok

[strange gale]

what's shield raze?

[oak relic]

have you attempted it?

[azure oriole]

How many hours you had ingame at the time?

[jaunty vapor]

Idunno

Probably close to 300ish

Eeeh maybe that's high. It's not easy to tell really, just kinda guesstimating off of current playtime

[oak relic]

anyone play on extra life mode

[cedar isle]

hmm

Doom Eternal be like : they've outnumbered us, in deaths.

[oak relic]

death is temporary, doom is eternal

unless youre playing on ultra nightmare

then death is perminant

[azure oriole]

How many replays of the campaign you had? Cause I think doom can only have like 3 save files which is not a lot

[jaunty vapor]

Uuuuh

[oak relic]

i replayed the base game 3 times and tag 1 twice

[jaunty vapor]

I'm going to highball it with my livesplit file by taking 15% of the amount of attempts I do, since a majority of those are probably resets on Hell on Earth, but this probably helps account for a few generic casual plays and the amount of times I've practiced individual levels.

I've completed base game proooobably 120 times, about

That's not including UN runs and other stuff, though, just the Restricted speedruns

[oak relic]

how many centuries have you been playing doom

[jaunty vapor]

Currently I have 1200 hours recorded on steam. However, I think 200 horus went unaccounted for cause i had to do some offline + downpatched shenanigans early on, so i think it's closer to 1400 hours

[oak relic]

oh my

[jaunty vapor]

Keep in mind that's 1400 hours across the DLCs, Horde Mode, modded content, some Battlemode, and of course glitch hunting/practicing, not just 1400 hours of doing complete campaign playthroughs.

Though I'd probably guess at least 1/4th of that IS doing campaign playthroughs and such

[azure oriole]

3/4th is battlemode

[oak relic]

you play any of the older doom games?

[jaunty vapor]

I have played Doom 1, and a lot of Doom 2016. I touched Doom 64 but wasn't a fan of it so dropped it

[oak relic]

whats the highest difficulty you beat it on without dying

[oak relic]

hugo would be dissapointed

[jaunty vapor]

I'm doubtful of that since Hugo wasn't involved with the first games. But also Hugo's probably already disappointed considering the amount of speedrun tech that's been patched out

Kidding about that, they've been adamant that they don't "purposefully" patch out speedrun tech and such.

[azure oriole]

I haven't played the game much tbh, I've only beaten it on ITYTD and HMP

[oak relic]

im saying that bc 64 was his first doom game

[azure oriole]

I only bought the older dooms because of eternal and also because they were cheap but I probably won’t play them that much. I like eternal because the way it performs too.

[oak relic]

ITYTD?

[azure oriole]

I did play 2016 before eternal but I like eternal much more.

[oak relic]

gameplay or literal preformance

[azure oriole]

I'm Too Young To Die

[oak relic]

oh thank you

[azure oriole]

Hmm I would say literal performance (loading times, 120 fps, hud customization this on ps5) but also gameplay wise if I compare to 2016. The others I have not tried altho I have them purchased and downloaded.

[gray rivet]

Have you played doom 2016?

[oak relic]

ive been catching up on my game recently and im still playing doom 2

[gray rivet]

Nice

[oak relic]

but i intend to

[azure oriole]

It’s just feels different. 2016 feels more like basic shooter, and nothing wrong with that, but eternal feels more unique compared to 2016.

[oak relic]

yn for a game about ripping people in half this is really pleasant

[oak relic]

i agree

[oak relic]

it also feels more fast paced compared to 2016

[azure oriole]

Yeah the combat is very different. Also no dash 😐 Only double jump.

[oak relic]

to be fair halo 5 has dash and that campaign isnt exactly fast paced

[azure oriole]

I haven’t ever played halo cause it’s microsoft exclusive altho I did play destiny a lot which is from same studio, bungie.

I mean dashing doesn’t make the game automatically fast paced but most fast paced games do usually have movement options similar to that

[strange gale]

d16 has like... gauss boosts, zips, rail boosts, and gk clips, that's about it

out of which 1 is actually practical to use in casual runs

[oak relic]

its like every enemy is responsive to your actions and has a strategy to beating them

its genuinely fun

4 and 5 arent as good as the others though

[oak relic]

d16?

ohhh nvm

[strange gale]

as in, doom 2016

[oak relic]

what are gk clips

[strange gale]

you glory kill at such an angle that the game puts you inside a door or wall afterwards, and then you can walk through to the other side

[oak relic]

ohh

[oak relic]

is there a way to control the glory kill you get or do you just hope for the best and go through the wall by chance

[strange gale]

the lineups are consistent but are in specific spots

[oak relic]

oh thats nice

[oak relic]

do you speedrun yakuza as well?

[strange gale]

i don't speedrun anything, i just play deternal a lot

[oak relic]

oh ok

[oak relic]

do you play a lot of yakuza

[burnt moss]

I don’t think I can finish this event 😦

[azure oriole]

Specially you had multiple campaigns going on how can you not? There’s still 10 days left

[burnt moss]

Multiple campaigns?

[azure oriole]

As in saves. Cause you can replay the missions in saves.

[burnt moss]

I don’t want to grind though.

[azure oriole]

What lvl are you?

[slow sigil]

Hows that relevant

[burnt moss]

Why

[azure oriole]

As in the pass/event, not doom lvl?

[slow sigil]

Oh nvm

[burnt moss]

Like 33

[azure oriole]

I think you can make it then 🤔

[oak relic]

goodluck

[burnt moss]

Yeah maybe. Just grumpy because I beat the whole event early on my Switch but it didn’t carry to my Xbox

[oak relic]

do you have the same bethesda account on both platforms

[burnt moss]

Yup

[azure oriole]

So this game doesn’t have crossplay but supposed to have cross progression?

[burnt moss]

I guess not

[oak relic]

thats how the slayers club zombie skin works

i think

[slow sigil]

Game doesnt really have cross progression

[azure oriole]

Not really.. I didn’t need anything but acc to claim it

[slow sigil]

Only for the same consoles and such

[oak relic]

theres a skin for progressing in slayers club

[azure oriole]

But you get it just for joining I think? You mean the zombie slayer skin?

[oak relic]

no theres a black skin for reaching a certain rank in slayers club

[azure oriole]

What is it called?

[oak relic]

gimme a moment

25 anniversary slayer

when you get to rank 15

and theres a bunch of demon skins

[azure oriole]

Rank 15 how many points?

[oak relic]

13,000

you have to reach doom slayer rank

[azure oriole]

It's a shit load of grinding for a handful of skins you probably won't use

[azure oriole]

Is there time limits?

[oak relic]

time limits on what

[azure oriole]

There is no time limit

[azure oriole]

Like getting on the skin or rewards in general..

[oak relic]

i dont believe so

[azure oriole]

These skins have been up since before the game even launched

Well that’s good then. Altho I do wonder what kind of tactics is there getting slayer points too. I only joined it recently, ik there’s like share an article for 5 points or watch video. But the fanart part would offer 40, but I am not an artist lol

[oak relic]

just do stick figs or something

[azure oriole]

I didn't even draw anything, I just submitted my photo mode pics and got easy points

[oak relic]

or at least try

[azure oriole]

Tbh I would want to do it properly. I used to draw years ago. Couldn’t submit stick figures 😂

[azure oriole]

Wait you can do that? Because that I would be willing to do I guess but does it count as fan art?

[oak relic]

well good luck

[oak relic]

Art comes in many forms

[azure oriole]

Yeah but when I think of fan art I mostly think of drawings, paintings etc.Not screenshots of games

[oak relic]

idk id take it

[waxen field]

Is it just me or does the enemy statistics doc lack the dlc 2 enemy values?

[strange gale]

there's some dlc2 stuff in there

[hazy pewter]

i bought doom eternal pc on xbox app launcher thing, then i bought on steam, how do i move my progress from xbox doom to the steam one

ping me if you have an answer

[tired ruin]

but what if i DONT

[vast kettle]

Just beat TAG2

Honestly, just ok.
TAG1 better.
Final boss lame.
Looks amazing.

Also I beat it and the credits are still rolling holy shut that's a lot of people.

[thin raft]

Tag2 hasn’t been finished because of the covid

[vast kettle]

Oh there's gonna be more?

Cool

[thin raft]

Nope they just shortened it

[vast kettle]

The DLCs that cost a little less than the actual game it's really short

Both TAG games

[thin raft]

Idk the price they were in the game when i bought it

[vast kettle]

They're 60AUD for both

The game is 80AUD

I don't know if I'm just much better at games now or something but I beat them both too Quickly

[thin raft]

Yeah guess you became better

But wtf I’ve got the game for 40€ with the dlc

[vast kettle]

I spent many nights beating the original game

[thin raft]

Maybe there was a reduction

[vast kettle]

It was fun and very long and it took me like 1/3 of the time to get through both TAGs

As fun as it was, it's so short I can't help but feel a little scammed

[thin raft]

I’m workin on getting 100% before getting the portal after taras nabad

Slayer’s gate are damn hard

Guess you should try to do UN 😅

[vast kettle]

UN?

[wet relic]

how do you get gold gun skins

[thin raft]

Ultra nightmare

[wet relic]

someone said it was just nightmare on tag 2

[thin raft]

The gold shotgun is on a master level

[frail parcel]

how do i get classic sounds if i downloaded from pc gamepass?

[timid moat]

The ultra Nightmare master levels is where it's at. Also Classic mode is so fun I wish it was a whole campaign mode.

[thin raft]

What is classic mode ?

[azure oriole]

Hey

[oak relic]

in master levels there is a mode where you have to collect all your weapons throughout the levels like the classic doom games

[thin raft]

It’s like in eternal

At the first level you win a new weapon

[oak relic]

yeah pretty much

[thin raft]

But yeah in the classic you get the weapon wile killing the ennemys

Are master levels hard ? Or it’s like a slayer’s door

[oak relic]

its like the first level of tag 1

and super gore nest

[slow sigil]

They are hard, but very good

[thin raft]

Never did tag 1

[oak relic]

ur still up?

[slow sigil]

It's 11:39

[thin raft]

What time is it in usa ?

[slow sigil]

3 am or something

[oak relic]

oh its 240 here

[thin raft]

Same for me

[oak relic]

you were pretty close

[thin raft]

I guess I’ll do all the levels at 100% and then do the master levels

[oak relic]

do master levels before tag 1

[thin raft]

Of course

[oak relic]

it will make your life much easier

[oak relic]

have you 100% main campaign

[thin raft]

I’m just in ultra violence

Not nightmare

[oak relic]

i tried un and got my 💩 kicked in by a caco on the 2nd level

[thin raft]

Nope I’m working on it, i’m finishing every levels before taras nabad

[azure oriole]

Your pfp

[oak relic]

bro got it from wish

[thin raft]

Guess i’ll try nightmare one day

[oak relic]

extra life mode is my personal favorite

[thin raft]

I didn’t exactly understood how it works

[oak relic]

if you run out of lives you lose your file

[thin raft]

Oh ok

[oak relic]

like the old mario games

[thin raft]

But you still can see were you have been ?

Like the hard mode of diablo 3

[oak relic]

wdym see where youve been

[thin raft]

Well the completion you made

[oak relic]

yes

[slow sigil]

I don't really like extra lives so eh not for me

[oak relic]

but you cant revisit levels

[oak relic]

what difficulty do you play

[thin raft]

The dream is to do 100% UN

[slow sigil]

Nightmare

[oak relic]

nice

[thin raft]

Is nightmare really harder than uv ?

[oak relic]

any game recomendations?

[oak relic]

yes

[thin raft]

Dark souls

Dead cell 🥹

[oak relic]

im more of a fallen order/sekiro guy

[thin raft]

Hum idk

Searching in my memory

[oak relic]

you mean the rouguelike?

[thin raft]

Oh it’s not what you want but play metro

[thin raft]

Yeah still stuck on 2BC

[oak relic]

Metro exodus?

[thin raft]

No start with 2033

Then last light and then exodus

[oak relic]

theres multiple games?

[thin raft]

Of course

[oak relic]

what about you

[thin raft]

2033 is a bit old but the infiltration is god

[slow sigil]

Wdym what about me

Game recs?

[oak relic]

yeah

[slow sigil]

Oh well the usual, almost anything from NewBlood

Don't really have that much

[oak relic]

ohh that would make sense

[thin raft]

If you like multiplayer try apex or battlefield

[oak relic]

i havent played any rougelikes yet. any entry level recomendations

[thin raft]

Roguelike then play dead cell

[oak relic]

and i dont mean easy jsut one that teaches me how to play

[oak relic]

thank you

[thin raft]

It’s eazy at the beginning

And become harder and harder

[oak relic]

i would hope so

[thin raft]

And it’s still on « amelioration »

[oak relic]

though its fair hard and not COD hard right

[thin raft]

And it’s french 😀

[thin raft]

It’s a very fair game if you lose it’s always your fault

[oak relic]

ok thats good

[thin raft]

Because it’s 2D there is no bugs

[oak relic]

idk about no bugs

[thin raft]

But watch by yourself it’s on steam

And switch, ps, and idk about xbox

[thin raft]

Well it’s pretty rare

Maybe generation bug

[oak relic]

id hope so

[thin raft]

Never had bug on my side

[oak relic]

thats nice to hear

[azure oriole]

Bro this guys pfp, I can’t chat man this shit is making me laugh

[oak relic]

what do you think about the new doom game

[barren spindle]

I did the challenge and it only worked with the energy beam upgrade

[oak relic]

my bad

[azure oriole]

I’ve been laughing for so long I’m concerned that my drink was spiked

[oak relic]

thats why i picked it

but seriously what are the thoughts on the new game

[azure oriole]

Which one

[oak relic]

the new doom game

the new direction i mean

[valid wren]

snus

[azure oriole]

The new direction is kewl, more violence is more fun

[daring sluice]

It seems like they are doing quake next, although Marty surrounded by doom merch could have been a hint but it feels like a stretch, it’s not like there’s a lot of quake gear out there.

[azure oriole]

Fuck, can’t say the c word

[oak relic]

it was stated that instead of zipping around like a rabbit youll be hitting like a truck

[azure oriole]

I ordered a 500$ life suit doom slayer suit with real metal and hard plastic with a glass visor on the helmet, it never came

[oak relic]

that sucks

[azure oriole]

I never got a refund either

[oak relic]

dang

[azure oriole]

The company blocked me when i contacted them a second time

[oak relic]

thats shady

[azure oriole]

I reverse image searched the image on the one I bought and I found it on Pinterest so

Yeah it was definitely fake

[daring sluice]

2016 had such a steady weekend, of course no one is on now

[azure oriole]

I can’t believe people still play pong

[oak relic]

game or real

[timid moat]

Ultra Nightmare is the bane of my existence, i get pretty far in the game and then get bodied by enemies behind me or get stuck on some level geometry every single bloody time.
The shield soldier and the cacodemon want a piece of the SLAYER cake so bad, every time I don't spin around like a blayblade to get an overview they are always behind me, ALWAYS.

And if shield soldiers get close to you, they absolutely melt you in a second or so

[azure oriole]

The game

[oak relic]

oh yeah thats wild

[azure oriole]

@oak relic can you confirm to em that the video I just sent you is Lego minecraft Steve rolling around in orange juice?

I feel like im seeing things

[oak relic]

no i saw it

[azure oriole]

Is it what I think it is

[timid moat]

Master levels are the "no holding back" version of the developers. They get absolutely insane sometimes, and I love them for it. Also they always surprise you.
The fog marauder was extra cool, and also the protected archviles were pure chaos

[thin raft]

Oh ok

Look good

[azure oriole]

Protected archvile :(

[oak relic]

wdym protected archville

[timid moat]

In a master level, there are archviles behind a red wall that you cannot hit until you clear the other key demons. However they can hit you, AND they can spawn enemies and buff existing ones.

The key demons are 2 dreadknights who spawn mid archvile summoning, and after you slay them 2 tyrants. After that you can try your hand at the archviles.

That room was absolutely nuts.

Again, I absolutely adore the master levels. It feels like the dev went completely all out. You get swarmed, you knee deep in the dead, 5 tyrants and 3 archviles, or 2 marauders in toxic waste.

I wish there was a third round DLC making every campaign and DLC level into a master level and including the classic mode campaign option.

(I play on nightmare, but I treat master levels as coin eaters essentially. I died 53 times in one the them.
They take me so long I actually had to suspend the process and hibernate the computer in order to keep going the day after, since you cannot save lol)

[thin raft]

You look advanced in the game

[digital jewel]

I'd pay for master levels if I had to

[oak relic]

i love the master levels

[timid moat]

I'd like to say that, but every ultra nightmare run I've attempted the sheer FRAME I look away from cacodemons they do an instant transmission behind me. Worse with shield soldiers, you're fighting a super heavy and then why is 120 of my armor gone, oh hey shield soldier there goes my run 🇫

[oak relic]

what are the "key demons"

[timid moat]

Demons that you are required to slay in order to advance to the next wave

[oak relic]

no im asking what were the key demons

i know what a key demon is

[rotund ether]

Yeah, Nightmare and UN are a ,,One wrong move= You are doomed'' modes

[unborn sorrel]

Does anyone know how to make your pb shot linger? Like, when I watch videos the pb shot stays in the air for a little bit

[oak relic]

why would you want the shot to linger instead of just hitting the enemy>

[unborn sorrel]

No it still hits the enemy, but it looks cool tho

[oak relic]

ive never seen a pb linger

i feel like thats a bug caused by advanced movement

[unborn sorrel]

welp, thanks for the help anyway

[timid moat]

But while on nightmare it is mostly fine, as you get infinite tries, on ultra nightmare once you get past level 5 you start to legitimately cold sweat at every encounter and spin like an idiot because the most important thing starts to very quickly become arena awareness.
So much so that you start saving the chainsaw as a ""invincibility"" button and to get rid of the bloody shield soldiers I swear I hate those guys, if they get close the DPS is absurd.

[oak relic]

i suggest having an extra nightmare save file where you beat the level without dying and then do the level on ultra nightmare

[vast flax]

I feel if you can get past doom hunter base with limited arsenal, surely it’s just making sure you dont make any mistakes for UN

[rotund ether]

Yeah, the first 4 levels are the worst on UN

[timid moat]

You guys think so? For me the early levels aren't so bad because the enemy numbers are low and as long as you instantly destroy weak points they are ok. The problem later is that it starts to get really hard to keep track on everyone running around so most of my runs ended because I got mobbed from behind

[slow sigil]

It's mostly cultist base being just quite hard

Hell on earth is robotic, exultia is just dull and boring which can get you, and dhb only has 1 arena lol

And after that you have enough stuff to where it's fairly easy cause it's finally the real game

[rotund ether]

I did not so long ago a Nightmare run
I lost too many Extra-Lives on Cultist Base and Exultia
Surprisingly I did DHB deathless
Later I did every level either deathless or with 1 extra life lost

So yeah, Cultist Base is the hardest level for me on Nightmare

[valid wren]

Many people say its the hardest, and im here considering it as easy lmao